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01:55.16mystica555since when did kde's screensaver get "smart" and stop activating if a video was playing in youtube?
01:55.38mystica555i leave my computer all day, no screensaver active when i get back; waslistening to youtube music vids in a background tab before i left
01:56.00mystica555and, where's the toggle to turn this behavior off
01:56.27genstormwow, I didn't think someone would dislike that feature
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01:56.38mystica555predictability is key
01:56.51mystica555this is the first time ive pinned precisely what has caused it
01:56.57mystica555but randomly i'll come back to my desk to either locked, or perhaps not
01:59.30ShalokShalommystica555: this feature exist afaik since a long time, just mostly buggy in the past :P
01:59.30mystica555i wonder if there's any chance i could request a feature:  "When focus follows mouse is enabled, keep the Applications Menu foreground and waiting for clicks until something clicks it
01:59.41ShalokShalom#kwin
02:00.09mystica555wouldnt it be a feature of the panel app tho?
02:00.23mystica555when noticing it is no longer active, to still stay foreground and display itself?
02:00.48mystica555not until another window takes foreground would it disappear
02:01.03mystica555as it is now, focus follows the mouse alright, and as soon as i mouse outside of the menu, it disappears
02:01.30mystica555vs, comparatively, a menu from a program doesn't close itself if you mouse off of it, but are still in the same program ..
02:02.01mystica555i simply want the panel apps menu to stay visible til i click it, if i manage to hit 5 pixels of the underlying window when moving the mouse across
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03:31.24FinetundarHey folks, out of curiousity are there plans to port KDE 5 to windows?
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03:34.00ShalokShalomi guess no and there is kde frameworks 5, plasma 5 and the kde applications 5
03:34.01ShalokShalomi guess you mean these 3 ?
03:34.23FinetundarShalokShalom: yeah
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06:43.29JenaPlinskyhi to all
06:45.05JenaPlinskyHow can i launch Dolphin super user ....default command is wrong ( dbus-launch dolphin %i -caption "%c" "%u" .)
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07:51.50prplmnkyHello, first time in here.
07:52.19valoriehello prplmnky
07:52.53prplmnky@valori Hi.
07:53.28prplmnkyI have a question about contributing but I don't know where to ask so.
07:53.48valoriewhat bit are you interested in, prplmnky?
07:54.23prplmnkyI have a bug fix in reviewboard but I don't know who to assign as a reviewer
07:54.47prplmnkyRight now it's assigned to kdeedu, but it's been two weeks already
07:54.51valorieah, what does it fix?
07:54.56valorieah, kdeedu
07:55.22valorieyou can leave the group, but if you are impatient, please write to the list about it
07:56.02prplmnkyI guess, you have a point. What's the list?
07:56.26valoriehmmm, sec
07:56.55valoriehttps://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu
07:58.11prplmnkyThanks. At this point, I'll give it another week or two, before I blast an email to everybody.
07:58.20prplmnkyI really appreciate it
07:58.36valorieit's a busy time of you
07:58.40valorieyear, I mean
07:58.54prplmnkySorry, in what way?
07:58.59valorieis weeks behind on some email and such
07:59.11prplmnkyAh.
08:01.18valoriethe holidays approach, and we're running two contests -- Season of KDE and Google Code-in for instance
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08:06.46prplmnky@valorie Gotcha.
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08:07.44adhokshajmishraAny book or resource to dive into plasmoid development?
08:08.19adhokshajmishraSomething that starts from basics and goes to intermediate level atleast
08:12.09valorietechbase has some stuff, I believe
08:12.25valorietechbase.kde.org
08:15.30adhokshajmishraTechbase does not cover everything I guess.
08:16.38adhokshajmishraand is outdated too. Like this: https://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started
08:16.59prplmnkyHave you tried looking at kde-apps.org or opendesktop.org and finding other plasmoid projects?
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09:46.56boombatowerplasmashell registers as 780GB of virtual mem?
09:46.57boombatowerwut
09:48.09excalibrwtf
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09:57.38lordievaderGood morning.
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10:09.10JenaPlinskyHi guys
10:09.14JenaPlinskydoes anyone know, which is the Plasma's login wallpaper path, account wallpaper and lockscreen wallpaper ?
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10:49.02excalibrJenaPlinsky, try 'locate background'
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11:58.14JenaPlinskydoes anyone know, in which config file are stored  Plasma's login wallpaper path, account wallpaper and lockscreen wallpaper ? i'd like to unify all wallpapers from the boot to the plasma login
11:59.12BlaXpiritJenaPlinsky, by login wallpaper you probably mean SDDM theme
11:59.16BlaXpiritpretty sure it's hardcoded
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12:00.21genstormhardly hardcoded when it can be changed via sddm-kcm
12:00.50genstormhaven't looked into splash background though
12:01.27BlaXpiritsorry, you're right
12:02.31BlaXpiritstill no idea where that background is stored.
12:03.46BlaXpiritfile:///usr/share/sddm/themes/breeze/theme.conf.user
12:03.54BlaXpiritthat's for theme background
12:04.36genstormmeh... that should really be in /etc
12:04.41BlaXpiritikr
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12:07.25BlaXpiritdesktop background:   $HOME/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
12:08.41BlaXpiritlock screen background:   $HOME/.config/kscreenlockerrc : ThemeBackground
12:08.51BlaXpiritJenaPlinsky, does that answer your questions?
12:10.49JenaPlinskybut i never used sddm before now it is the default login manager ? i'm using KDM is there the possibility to get the backgrounds paths
12:10.58BlaXpiritgoddammit, JenaPlinsky
12:11.19BlaXpiritall my searches were in vain because you use an unmaintained version of kde and aren't saying it
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12:12.11JenaPlinskyI'm using Plasma desktop 5.4.90
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12:14.12BlaXpiritJenaPlinsky, sorry then, but i'm pretty sure KDM can't be used with it?
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12:16.51StatelessCatAristide: hey, can you confirm me that since plasma-framework 5.16, breeze dark theme is not showing any difference between taskbar icons in "launcher mode", "running with focus", "running without focus" ?
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12:17.34StatelessCatAristide: like you said to me in another channel, with the "breeze" theme, it's working. But for me with the breeze dark it's broken
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12:24.46JenaPlinskyBlaXpirit: You say I can remove the KDM with Plasma 5.4.90
12:25.02BlaXpiritno idea
12:25.51JenaPlinskyYou have kdm installed in your opensuse
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12:27.51cb400fsddm would be default on a fresh install of opensuse leap or tumbleweed
12:28.06JenaPlinskyamong your package there is also the kdm
12:28.10cb400fso yes, you can remove kdm (if you install sddm and set it in /etc/sysconfig/displaymanager
12:28.34BlaXpiritJenaPlinsky, if you do not insist on using a config file
12:28.40JenaPlinskythank a lots
12:28.44BlaXpiritJenaPlinsky, wait
12:29.02BlaXpiritjust go to the settings of all these 3 things and change it to the same picture
12:29.10BlaXpiritthen replace that picture whenever you want
12:30.11NeuhNeuhStatelessCat: Wait
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12:31.00StatelessCatSIGSTOP himself waiting for NeuhNeuh
12:31.11NeuhNeuhSorry StatelessCat :) http://i.imgur.com/rf02csk.png
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12:31.55NeuhNeuhI have 5.4.90 version of Plasma5 :x
12:32.40JenaPlinskyi'd like using a script to edit the opensuse aspect (wallpaper) to start on the kde shutdown  in such a way as to have a single aspect from beginning to end
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12:37.02StatelessCatNeuhNeuh: ok seems you don't have the bug, nice for you
12:37.19StatelessCatNeuhNeuh: do you think your version are more recent than mines : https://paste.kde.org/p3cystwr1 ?
12:37.57NeuhNeuhYes lol
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12:38.43NeuhNeuhStatelessCat: Plasma Desktop : 5.4.90git~20151119T162822~0e74617-15.1
12:38.53genstormit's a beta
12:38.56NeuhNeuhI'm already running under 5.5 Beta :D
12:38.59NeuhNeuhgenstorm: Yes lol
12:39.03NeuhNeuhlike to live dangerously
12:39.08NeuhNeuhbut I have less bug than StatelessCat :x
12:39.19genstormwell, there was a known bug with dark theme
12:39.29StatelessCatNeuhNeuh: do you remember having this probleme when you were in smaller version of plasma ?
12:39.29genstormnot sure if it was fixed for 5.4.3 already
12:39.42NeuhNeuhStatelessCat: I never use Plasma Dark
12:39.47StatelessCatgenstorm: nice to know :) i'll not worry anymore
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12:40.03NeuhNeuhgenstorm: Apparently Yes, I don't have this problem under 5.4.90
12:40.04StatelessCatNeuhNeuh: but you're a dark guy, why are you not using dark theme ?
12:40.19StatelessCat:)
12:40.32NeuhNeuh:x
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12:41.34genstormwell that fix landed in 5.4.3
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12:43.03NeuhNeuhAhaha StatelessCat time to update
12:43.35NeuhNeuh186 updates
12:44.37genstormNeuhNeuh: for you as well, there is 5.4.95 actually available
12:44.48NeuhNeuhCool :D
12:44.54NeuhNeuhlike OpenSUSE Factory
12:45.28genstorm...in a distro near you, not necessarily in opensuse, but who knows
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12:46.11NeuhNeuhgenstorm: Yes but Suse release quickly version of KDE
12:46.28NeuhNeuhnews*
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12:47.34StatelessCatre
12:47.43NeuhNeuhStatelessCat: :)
12:48.14StatelessCat3:41:33 genstorm | well that fix landed in 5.4.3 --> i'm already in plasma-desktop 5.4.3-1
12:48.20StatelessCatand it's not fixed :/
12:49.16StatelessCatNeuhNeuh: I'm up to date !
12:49.30NeuhNeuhlibKF5CalendarCore5 - 15.11.60git.20151121T094802~d88fabe ← Huhu :x
12:49.34NeuhNeuhMe too =D
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12:49.58StatelessCatgenstorm: are you sure 5.4.3 fixed this ? are you refering to some issue on the bug tracker
12:50.00StatelessCat?
12:50.42JenaPlinskyNeuhNeuh:  "~ / .config / plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc" is that I was looking for !!. You think there's a way to isolate the active wallpaper, in time, the logout or shutdown? so as to be able to replace the wallpaper in the next login?
12:51.41NeuhNeuhJenaPlinsky: You want to change wallpaper at login ?
12:51.49NeuhNeuhSorry I don't very understand your question
12:52.56JenaPlinskyyes in according to the last used wallpaper with a script
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13:21.36JenaPlinskywhen i shutdown Kde from the activity "foo", I'd like, by a script read the "foo" wallpaper from "~ / .config / plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc" and use it for the next login and replace the lockscreen too
13:22.11NeuhNeuhJenaPlinsky: Ok you want to update login screen when you change your desktop wallpaper
13:22.14NeuhNeuhOk I see
13:22.23NeuhNeuhSorry I don't know
13:22.44JenaPlinskyThanks a lot
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13:44.38genstormStatelessCat: well some issue was fixed, doesn't mean yours ;)
13:44.49genstorm5.16 wasn't released at that time
13:46.22JenaPlinskysi ho fluxbox ma non installato cmq ho attivi tutti i repository unstable che esistono :( quindi non faccio testo
13:49.51NeuhNeuhJenaPlinsky: I have maybe an idea about your problem
13:50.11NeuhNeuhJenaPlinsky: You can make a « Symbolik Link » of « Login » picture
13:50.33NeuhNeuhAnd get desktop wallpaper and update Symbolik Link at logoff
13:52.58JenaPlinskyIt might be an idea but do not know how you do it and where to find log file.jpg
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14:25.28JyZyXELhow do i get rid of that?
14:27.28JyZyXELah, found it in the System Notifications under KDE Workspace application settings
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15:03.26bsmHi I am running Archlinux with plasma-desktop 5.4.3 and I am experiencing instabilities like crashing plasmashell, kwin or both when running a setup with an external monitor. I thought that the Qt bugs with multiple screens should have been fixed with Qt 5.5 but seems like they weren't. Any ideas how to change from external to internal screen without crashing the desktop?
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15:07.02bsmAh I found the Qt bug #42985 resembles my problem very well.
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15:31.41kuterhello, I'm getting started with kde5 .. can I set different wallpaper for each desktop ? In kde4 there was a option
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15:34.30BluesKajHiyas all
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15:36.36clivejokuter: I can set a wallpaper per screen on Plasma5
15:37.01kuterPhazeus_tux: clivejo I can't and I don't know why.
15:37.07kuterclivejo:
15:37.18clivejoI can also have different activities
15:37.34clivejowith different wallpapers too
15:38.22clivejokuter: what OS and version of Plasma are you running?
15:38.55kuterclivejo: opensuse 42.1 and plasma 5.4
15:39.27clivejohave you multiple screens?
15:39.47kuterI've got one monitor
15:40.01kutereven widgets of each desktkop are the same
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15:41.56clivejoits a bit confusing, I have two screens, 5 activities and 4 desktops
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15:43.19clivejoI can change the wallopaper in the activities, but not individual desktops
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15:45.18clivejomaybe you need to setup separate activities for your old desktops
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15:46.21kuterbut how to set separate activities ?
15:46.38clivejodo you see the hamburger icon top left ?
15:47.56clivejoor even menu click on your desktop
15:48.17kuteryep I see
15:48.20kuterwhat next
15:48.20clivejoGo to Activities..
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15:48.49clivejoit slides out a list of the activities, at the bottom create a new one
15:49.10clivejoeach activity can have different widgets etc
15:50.00clivejothen on your panel you can add a activities bar so you can switch between them
15:50.05kuternow I see
15:50.15kuterand how to switch between activities ?
15:50.25kuterI used to old kde pager
15:51.21bsmthere is a widget for this.
15:52.40clivejoI prefer the Activity Bar
15:53.30kuterso, when I'm on kde5 I should get rid of pager ?
15:53.46clivejosee how you get on with activities
15:53.52clivejosome people dont like it
15:54.25kuterif there is shortkey for switching between activities ?
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15:56.12clivejoIn your system settings>desktop behavior
15:56.39clivejoyou can setup a shortkey for each of them
15:56.49kuterI see
15:57.11kuterwell the last thing is .. that want to have pager widget
15:58.15clivejodefault is meta+tab I think
15:58.53clivejotry the activities bar widget
15:58.59clivejoadd it to your panel
15:59.22clivejoor you can add it to the desktop
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16:00.34clivejoits handier to add it to the panel
16:01.54kuterclivejo: that widget was the first widget that I remove after os instalation
16:01.58cb400fkuter: an activity pager is coming with 5.5
16:02.25cb400fhttp://notmart.org/blog/2015/11/a-pager-for-activities/
16:02.42kutercb400f: cool, looking forward to it.
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16:03.27kuterthat's excatly what I'm looking for ;)
16:04.38clivejotakes a while to get used to Plasma 5, but I really like it now
16:04.57clivejoI love krunner :)
16:05.11clivejoAlt+Space Bar
16:05.52clivejoand KDE Connect widget displays my phone status
16:06.23kuterclivejo: Personally I'm still using alt + F2 ;)
16:06.45kuterbut I agree that alt+space is more natural
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16:07.19clivejokuter: that the beauty, you can set it up to do what ever you want :)
16:07.53kuterclivejo: I fell lost a bit now .. ;)
16:08.17kuterI'm kde user for more than 10 years
16:08.36clivejoI have my music, chatting, video, development, etc activities
16:08.38kuterand as far as I remember every change was painful for me ;)
16:08.58kuterwhere I can set hotkeys for switching activity ?
16:09.17kuterI found that I can multiple amount of desktop by adding new activities ;p
16:09.20clivejoall customized with different widgets and wallpapers
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16:09.41kuterclivejo: you mean desktop or activities ?
16:10.04clivejowell the desktops on each activity are customised
16:10.07kuterI can set wallpaper per activity but I can't do the same with desktops
16:10.21clivejocorrect
16:10.49kuterbut if I have 4 activities and 4 desktop on each of them .. its 16 workspaces ;)
16:10.50clivejobut you can have different wallpapers per screen!
16:11.08clivejoyes, thats a lot of workspace
16:11.30kuterwhen I'm kde5 at my work place it will be 32 workspaces because of two screens ;p
16:11.33kutersounds great.
16:13.15clivejosometimes I would like different activitys on different screens
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16:13.23clivejojust to confuse myself
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16:15.43kuternow I can't find where to set hotkey for switching
16:17.33kutergot it meta + tab
16:22.14AlohaEhkuter:  In SystemSettings, Desktop Behavior, Virtual Desktops
16:22.27AlohaEh(switching tab)
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17:23.11XenithOrbWhere would I be able to find errors from the konsole problem
17:23.18XenithOrbprogram*
17:23.38XenithOrbNot errors from command line usage, but actually issues with konsole itself
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17:59.48Vtec234How can I redo in Dolphin? Undo is listed in Control with CTRL+Z but redo isn't
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18:23.20elmHi; I would like to know how can I disable the password prompt after s2ram with kde5?
18:25.16elm... as kpowersave does no more exist and the systemsettings5 power settings do not seem to conatin such an option
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18:39.01elmis such an option still supported with kde5
18:39.03elm?
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18:44.36AlohaEhelm: I am going to say Yes because it does not prompt me for a password on wake.
18:44.55BlaXpiritelm, screen locking
18:45.01BlaXpiritsearch in menu
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18:47.04AlohaEhelm: System Settings, Desktop Behavior, Screen Locking:  Lock screen on resume
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18:48.21tessarakt3What does a "pulsing" USB stick icon in the systray mean?
18:49.11tessarakt3hm ... https://www.google.com/search?q=pulsing+icon+usb+stick+kde&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
18:49.21tessarakt3seems like others have similar problems ...
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18:58.18elmAlohaEh: thx
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19:33.01raviorUsing the latest Plasma 5.5 on Wayland, I receive an error of not finding "wayland-org.kde.kwin.qpa".
19:33.59raviorI know that is an env variable called QT_QPA_PLATFORM, but should you set it manually when you're tring to start a session?
19:34.47ravior+ Right now, when the session is selected all it does is displaying an black surface after the loading screen.
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19:35.26raviorI made sure I have the latest xwayland and all kwin wayland dependencies installed. If someone has any ideea I could try, it would be more than appreciated!
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21:02.35NanoSectorheya, I'm having some issues with applets
21:02.52NanoSectorso I have Konversation as tray icon and the Devices applet
21:03.01NanoSectorbut when they're both enabled they seem to cause issues
21:03.08NanoSectorKonversation is always there even if I set it not to
21:03.36NanoSectorit's set to Always show, but if I set it to Automatic, after I save it jumps back to Always show
21:03.54NanoSectorthis doesn't happen if Konversation is closed
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21:10.50NanoSectorhmm just edited the applets file
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21:13.01NanoSectormanually editing the file worked, cheers :)
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