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| 16:21.38 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.3 and KDE Applications 15.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 16:21.41 | rdieter | Josef_Filzmaier: in short, bug your distro |
| 16:22.19 | Josef_Filzmaier | rdieter: thanks, gonna file a bug report. |
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| 16:25.22 | james66 | I am receiving some messages like "kf5.kded: Could not load kded module "printmanager":"The shared library was not found." (library path was:"printmanager")". What is it looking for exactly ? |
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| 16:28.56 | rdieter | james66: kded_printmanager.so |
| 16:29.11 | rdieter | james66: on my f22/x86_64 box, it's at /usr/lib64/qt5/plugins/kded_printmanager.so |
| 16:29.29 | rdieter | (f22 => fedora 22, sorry) |
| 16:30.07 | james66 | ok |
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| 17:44.19 | chris_hd | Hi @ all |
| 17:44.37 | chris_hd | should the search in Dolphin search in the contents of PDFs? |
| 17:44.48 | chris_hd | or can I tell it to do so? |
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| 18:35.19 | JyZyXEL | how do i execute: LC_TIME='en_US.UTF-8' conky when KDE starts? |
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| 18:42.22 | rdieter | JyZyXEL: create a .desktop file per http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html , and put it in ~/.config/autostart/ |
| 18:43.12 | rdieter | with an Exec= key of something like: Exec=env LC_TIME='en_US.UTF-8' conky |
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| 18:45.42 | JyZyXEL | echo '[Desktop Entry]' > ~/.config/autostart/conky; echo 'Type=Application' |
| 18:46.12 | rdieter | if conky already has a .desktop file, you could recycle that |
| 18:46.26 | rdieter | JyZyXEL: make sure it has .desktop extention, ie, name it something like conky.desktop |
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| 18:49.57 | chris_hd | Hi, can I search the content of PDFs? |
| 18:51.02 | rdieter | chris_hd: baloo supports that, I believe |
| 18:51.48 | vHanda | yup! |
| 18:51.50 | rdieter | (via poppler) |
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| 18:54.39 | Kilo`byte | okay, question: is there a way to say: if the window title of the current foreground window matches a search string, auto hide control bar? |
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| 18:55.35 | chris_hd | rdieter: do I have to activate something? |
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| 18:56.17 | rdieter | chris_hd: it should be enabled by default, you can check if desktop search is enabled in systemsettings |
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| 19:13.54 | AciD` | I just lost all sound output (while I can still see the vu meter moving in pavucontrol). How do you restart phonon? |
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| 19:23.53 | rdieter | AciD`: there is no restarting phonon, restarting pulseaudio maybe |
| 19:24.14 | rdieter | AciD`: you sure pavucontrol says it's sending to the right output? |
| 19:24.26 | rdieter | ie, headphones vs speaker vs other ? |
| 19:25.09 | AciD` | rdieter -> yes, I manually change from speaker to headphone and viceversa approx 10 times a day, so I'm used to that (cumbersome) pavucontrol app ;) |
| 19:25.48 | AciD` | kde created a 'dummy output' interface |
| 19:25.57 | rdieter | kde didn't, that's pulseaudio |
| 19:26.05 | AciD` | when I switched my speakers to 'off' |
| 19:26.08 | AciD` | well |
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| 19:26.16 | rdieter | it usually means your usual device either stopped working or is unavailable for some other reason |
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| 19:27.28 | AciD` | looks like restarting pulseaudio (or even killing it) does not solve the 'dummy output' problem :( |
| 19:28.16 | rdieter | audio driver may have stopped working |
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| 19:31.11 | AciD` | bummer, this will mess up my uptime :( |
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| 19:43.20 | Bazzog | Hey guys |
| 19:43.50 | Bazzog | Can someone help me out with a problem im facing using Kate? |
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| 19:44.27 | rdieter | Bazzog: maybe if you tell what the problem is |
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| 19:46.02 | Bazzog | If i save a file via hotkey the program window gets grey |
| 19:46.37 | Bazzog | it doesn't crash - I can see parts of the functionalities again if i hover over them with the mouse |
| 19:47.18 | a|3x | so i am typing away, pressing enter a bunch of times, and all the sudden some even alert dialog comes up just as i am hitting the enter key, this triggers some button on that window... wtf did i just do?!? |
| 19:47.29 | a|3x | can someone tell me why is this still a problem? seems like this should have been fixed like back in the 90s |
| 19:47.40 | rdieter | Bazzog: what hotkey exactly |
| 19:47.41 | rdieter | ? |
| 19:47.50 | Bazzog | cmd - s |
| 19:47.59 | Bazzog | im on a mac |
| 19:48.00 | rdieter | Bazzog: what version of kate? |
| 19:48.18 | Bazzog | 3.7 |
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| 19:48.50 | Bazzog | kde development platform 4.14.3 if that helps you |
| 19:49.01 | rdieter | a|3x: what kind of alert dialog? from kde notifications applet? |
| 19:49.14 | a|3x | kontact reminder |
| 19:49.29 | a|3x | doesn't matter, this should be fixed on like xorg level or something |
| 19:49.30 | rdieter | whatever it is, it is apparently stealing focus |
| 19:49.37 | rdieter | which isn't nice |
| 19:49.53 | a|3x | when window focus changes, it needs to ignore keystrokes for 100 ms or something |
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| 19:50.39 | a|3x | i have seen some programs managing this correctly on linux, windows is still hopelessly broken with this bug i believe |
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| 20:09.11 | LadyCailin | firefox does that with its download/install things dialogs |
| 20:09.21 | LadyCailin | It's really a nice feature |
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| 20:23.56 | otjura | intro video like this would be great for every new Plasma release https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxRLa5hTGkg |
| 20:24.04 | otjura | GNOME dudes sure know the PR |
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| 20:49.52 | peterix | http://imgur.com/culGLvd |
| 20:49.57 | peterix | guys, what is this? |
| 20:50.01 | peterix | why is this? |
| 20:50.15 | peterix | my system is NOT windows. |
| 20:50.32 | peterix | and this kind of stuff makes my skin crawl |
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| 20:51.40 | rdieter | peterix: I believe that's a security mechanism for .desktop files not in the the "usual" locations |
| 20:51.58 | rdieter | peterix: fix/workaround, mark the .desktop file as executable perms |
| 20:52.09 | peterix | how do I rip it out and make it go away permanently? |
| 20:52.16 | peterix | like, immediately? |
| 20:52.18 | rdieter | mark it executable |
| 20:52.20 | peterix | no |
| 20:52.24 | peterix | the 'feature' |
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| 20:52.35 | peterix | I'm not going to go hunt for .desktop files |
| 20:52.37 | rdieter | you're welcome to patch kdelibs |
| 20:52.49 | peterix | that is terrible. |
| 20:52.58 | rdieter | you're welcome to your opinion |
| 20:53.27 | rdieter | fwiw, all of kde's .desktop files generally already install as executable, so should work regardless of where you install them |
| 20:53.59 | rdieter | peterix: I assume this is some custom .desktop launcher ? |
| 20:54.02 | peterix | I do not want 'security theater' to be a part of my system |
| 20:54.06 | peterix | no |
| 20:54.21 | rdieter | if it's not custom, then it should be in the standard location(s) |
| 20:54.29 | rdieter | what is it, or rather, *where* is it? |
| 20:54.40 | rdieter | not under /usr/share/applications ? |
| 20:54.40 | peterix | it's a normal packaged file |
| 20:54.48 | peterix | and I don't know where it is |
| 20:55.02 | rdieter | it's not nofrmal if it's not /usr/share/applications (or usr/local/share/...) |
| 20:55.06 | peterix | ~_~ |
| 20:55.06 | apt | STOP THAT! |
| 20:55.12 | rdieter | how are you launching it? |
| 20:55.15 | peterix | I want to disable this, not hund .desktops |
| 20:55.18 | peterix | *hunt |
| 20:55.27 | rdieter | suit yourself |
| 20:55.31 | svuorela | peterix: the reason for the feature, which is not just security theater, is that one can make a .desktop file saying "I'm a document" with "document logo" and executing rm -rf |
| 20:56.31 | peterix | my computer is a power tool, not a toy hammer. |
| 20:57.07 | rdieter | feel free to patch out the check then |
| 20:57.32 | peterix | so it's not configurable? |
| 20:57.36 | rdieter | no |
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| 20:57.41 | peterix | alright. |
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| 20:58.02 | rdieter | still thinks the easiest "patch" is chmod +x |
| 20:58.12 | betacrash | lol |
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| 21:00.53 | svuorela | hmm.. peterix still owes me a test case :/ |
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| 21:06.00 | jaggzt | any of you use kmail? my filter doesn't work |
| 21:06.14 | jaggzt | it worked once, then stopped |
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| 21:08.05 | rattking | I use kmail but not filters, I do that server side. |
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| 21:09.02 | jaggzt | what do you use serverside? |
| 21:09.34 | jaggzt | rattking, I have spamassassin add the [***** SPAM stuff, and I want to move anything 10.0 or greater into a spam folder |
| 21:09.46 | jaggzt | so I'm using ^\[\*\*\*\*\* SPAM [1-9][0-9] |
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| 21:11.20 | jaggzt | but for some reason it just doesn't do anything at all when applied |
| 21:11.28 | ks1 | hi |
| 21:14.00 | jaggzt | I can't find information on what the regular expression type is... to know what's magic or not |
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| 21:20.36 | jaggzt | I shutdown kmail, restarted akonadi, and now it works |
| 21:21.55 | jaggzt | no wait.. it only sort of worked.. today's mail got filtered, but not yesterday's |
| 21:21.56 | jaggzt | sigh |
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| 22:21.37 | TacoGS | is there a way to disable this popup from showing when launching programs http://imgur.com/culGLvd |
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| 22:25.26 | jasabella | hi :) |
| 22:25.45 | jasabella | anyone around? |
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| 22:29.24 | TacoGS | I am, but I am not sure I am much help |
| 22:31.44 | jasabella | i'm running plasma 5 and last night, in the space of 1 hour, systemd recorded 50GiB of coredumps from kscreenlocker... |
| 22:32.12 | jasabella | 54,000 files just under 1MiB in size |
| 22:32.22 | jasabella | should i flie a bug report? |
| 22:32.48 | TacoGS | did you make an attempt to read the core dumps? |
| 22:32.56 | jasabella | i'm not that smart :( |
| 22:33.20 | TacoGS | not sure if they are raw files |
| 22:33.28 | jasabella | lz4 |
| 22:33.30 | TacoGS | try doing a vim, nano etc read on it |
| 22:33.31 | jasabella | compressed? |
| 22:33.36 | TacoGS | yip |
| 22:33.44 | rdieter | TacoGS: already told you 90 min ago, chmod +x the associated .desktop file |
| 22:33.56 | rdieter | wrt the popup |
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| 22:39.59 | TacoGS | I just got here, so if you told me 90m ago good on you |
| 22:40.58 | TacoGS | thanks though non the less |
| 22:47.25 | TacoGS | rdieter: still happens with alt + f2 |
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| 22:51.17 | rdieter | TacoGS: someone else posted the same imgur link you did 90 min ago, so if it wasn't you, my apologies |
| 22:51.27 | rdieter | TacoGS: so, what are you doing exactly to trigger it? |
| 22:51.46 | TacoGS | I bet I know who that was |
| 22:51.49 | fatino | Hi, does anyone knows if the way that KDE handles network connections will every be changed? I'm talking about streaming videos for example(Samba, SFTP) |
| 22:51.53 | TacoGS | I was testing the same thing as he was |
| 22:52.01 | TacoGS | peterix by chance? |
| 22:52.06 | rdieter | TacoGS: yes |
| 22:52.24 | TacoGS | yeah, krunner is causing the popup. Does krunner use .desktop shortcuts? |
| 22:52.38 | rdieter | TacoGS: yes, it can |
| 22:52.51 | TacoGS | does it normally do that though? |
| 22:52.56 | rdieter | TacoGS: no, it should not |
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| 22:53.20 | rdieter | TacoGS: "that" meaning to give the security warning |
| 22:53.22 | TacoGS | hrm, I wonder if there is a way to prevent it from causing that popup |
| 22:53.49 | rdieter | TacoGS: the cause is that there's a referenced .desktop file not in the usual (aka trusted) locations, e.g. /usr/share/applications |
| 22:53.50 | TacoGS | Yeah, it is a little odd that it has no way to disable it easily (probably a way, hense why I am here) |
| 22:54.02 | TacoGS | I see |
| 22:54.18 | rdieter | TacoGS: the way to disable the security check, is to mark the .desktop file as executable |
| 22:54.35 | TacoGS | I understand that part, but I mean overall |
| 22:54.40 | TacoGS | but I am ok with that |
| 22:54.43 | rdieter | TacoGS: you cannot disable it |
| 22:54.51 | rdieter | (not without patching, rebuilding code) |
| 22:54.53 | TacoGS | Understood |
| 22:55.03 | TacoGS | Yeah, I thought that would be the case. |
| 22:55.51 | rdieter | TacoGS: may be worth contacting your distro, if this is all standard/distro/packaged software |
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| 22:57.17 | TacoGS | understood, I have a feeling it is because krunner autocomplates and is probably launching something outside of the known paths |
| 22:58.26 | rdieter | TacoGS: it only looks in standard places |
| 22:58.39 | TacoGS | that makes sense |
| 22:58.42 | rdieter | unless you've customized things (or your distro has) to look elsewhere |
| 22:59.06 | TacoGS | probably not, I didn't do it in the VM I just created to test it |
| 22:59.22 | rdieter | ok, starting to definitely look like a distro bug somehow |
| 22:59.25 | TacoGS | and I just tried placing a binary outside the normal locations so it is probably standard |
| 22:59.41 | rdieter | binaries aren't affected, this check is only for .desktop files |
| 22:59.57 | TacoGS | ah |
| 22:59.59 | rdieter | (or if you were testing if krunner would see it ?) |
| 23:00.09 | TacoGS | testing if krunner saw it |
| 23:00.22 | rdieter | TacoGS: for example, you download a .desktop file from the internet to your ~/Desktop or ~/Download folder |
| 23:00.37 | rdieter | that's the case where this warning will kick in |
| 23:00.55 | rdieter | if you try clicking/running it directly |
| 23:01.01 | TacoGS | makes sense, Windows does it as well but you can force it to not show again |
| 23:03.06 | ks1 | -test- |
| 23:03.38 | TacoGS | -tube- |
| 23:03.55 | ks1 | -what- |
| 23:04.08 | TacoGS | -the- |
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| 23:44.52 | kadoban | How do font fallbacks work? Say in konversation I use Ω and the font I'm using doesn't have that glyph (I know it doesn't), what font is konversation using to display the glyph? How can I influence the behavior? |
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| 23:46.27 | Sho_ | kadoban: I wrote a blog about that once, sec |
| 23:46.39 | Sho_ | kadoban: https://blogs.kde.org/2014/09/11/beyond-unicode-closing-gap-support-mixed-character-set-text-kde-workspaces |
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| 23:47.33 | kadoban | Sho_: Thanks, I'll take a read. |
| 23:48.42 | Sho_ | kadoban: That explains both how it works right now and what my hope is to make it better (but ... then I got busy with other things, so haven't done much on it lately) |
| 23:49.19 | kadoban | Cool :) |
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| 23:49.32 | Sho_ | kadoban: but it's motivating to hear someone have that problem in a way (-> yay people would actually benefit) |
| 23:50.17 | kadoban | Heh, yeah. Whatever font it's pulling from isn't very pretty, so it kinda bugs me. |
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| 23:57.10 | kadoban | Sho_: Thanks again, I think that gives me enough to tinker with to fix it. |
| 23:57.26 | Sho_ | kadoban: I can also pastebin you my fonts.conf if that'd help |
| 23:58.27 | kadoban | Sho_: Yeah sure, I've never messed with this stuff so any examples can only help. |
| 23:59.44 | Sho_ | kadoban: it's not even very big since i reinstalled recently and lost my old one: https://paste.kde.org/p1w1g1sbf/kkpbkc |