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| 04:04.34 | Zerkalerka | hey guys I accidently added a shortcut to my panel to open konversation, but can't figure out how to delete it.. |
| 04:04.52 | Zerkalerka | when right clicking on it and hitting icon settings only has a keyboard shortcut input |
| 04:05.43 | Zerkalerka | nvm fixed it |
| 04:05.50 | Zerkalerka | its so simple I overthought it |
| 04:05.52 | Zerkalerka | lolz |
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| 07:06.30 | Naphatul | how can i move my keyboard shortcuts from plasma 4 to plasma 5? |
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| 08:05.47 | qua-non | hey folks |
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| 08:07.56 | qua-non | I have a implementation of clipboard that was using dbus to call out to org.kde.klipper |
| 08:08.04 | qua-non | seems this is gone from kde5 |
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| 08:08.35 | qua-non | what should I be using that is gaurenteed to exist in both older and newer kdes? |
| 08:09.02 | qua-non | I am not using kde/qt libs directly |
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| 08:23.49 | kfunk | qua-non: I'd check the klipper source and check what changed (i.e. what the new dbus service name is if it still exists) |
| 08:24.51 | qua-non | kfunk, thanks |
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| 08:25.57 | kfunk | qua-non: quickly checked -- the service name is still the same |
| 08:26.03 | kfunk | are you sure 'klipper' is running? |
| 08:26.20 | kfunk | (speaking of the Plasma 5 version) |
| 08:29.33 | qua-non | kfunk, there is a paste applet in the systray |
| 08:29.40 | qua-non | don't know what's it's called |
| 08:30.12 | qua-non | but accessing dbus it can't find org.kde.klipboard |
| 08:30.42 | qua-non | dbusklipper - DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.kde.klipper was not provided by any .service files |
| 08:31.03 | kfunk | hm, indeed. I have that, too. but 'klipper' isn't running for me. |
| 08:31.10 | kfunk | not sure how that works, tbh |
| 08:31.16 | kfunk | qua-non: try starting the |
| 08:31.21 | kfunk | ... 'klipper' binary manually |
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| 08:31.53 | qua-non | kfunk I need to get access to clipboard regardless of whether klipper is running, just need to access clipboard in kde |
| 08:32.09 | qua-non | if this means to use a different service then I would preffer that |
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| 08:32.46 | qua-non | as it stands if kipeer is not running by default, I would preffer to use any other service if available for this |
| 08:32.53 | qua-non | kipeer/klipper |
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| 08:34.34 | qua-non | launching klipper manually works |
| 08:35.12 | qua-non | but this is not a solution for me as I can't just ask the user to launch it, would preffer not to launch it through code |
| 08:35.45 | qua-non | if kde's is moving away from klipper then maybe there is some doc on how to access that interface through dbus? |
| 08:36.07 | kfunk | mgraesslin: ^ |
| 08:36.38 | qua-non | plus launching klipper gives me two pastelets in the systray |
| 08:36.51 | kfunk | yep |
| 08:37.06 | kfunk | best to wait for mgraesslin, he worked on that |
| 08:37.10 | mgraesslin | qua-non: don't start klipper anymore, it's not used |
| 08:37.26 | mgraesslin | the clipboard service is the applet in the systray |
| 08:37.36 | qua-non | mgraesslin, hey. How can I use the newer interface through dbus? |
| 08:37.52 | mgraesslin | qua-non: why would you want to? |
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| 08:38.20 | qua-non | I am trying to provide interoperability for another framework, accessing kde clipboard |
| 08:38.37 | mgraesslin | qua-non: and why do you want to use DBus for an X11 feature? |
| 08:38.40 | qua-non | we do the same for gtk, windows, ios, android... |
| 08:39.11 | mgraesslin | qua-non: please provide more information on what you want to achieve |
| 08:39.17 | qua-non | mgraesslin, cause kde adds more features on top that I want to be accessible to the user |
| 08:39.52 | mgraesslin | qua-non: please provide me information what you want to achieve - I'm the maintainer of the clipboard and will be able to tell you whether that's possible or not |
| 08:40.02 | mgraesslin | but I need to understand *exactly* the use case |
| 08:40.04 | qua-non | I simply want to be able to access kde clipboard features in python without having to use kde, libs directly |
| 08:40.16 | mgraesslin | well which features? |
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| 08:40.49 | qua-non | for starter copy paste then others like multiple buffers |
| 08:40.50 | mgraesslin | the clipboard manager is primarily a clipboard history - it doesn't "expose" any outside feature on top of what X11 provides |
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| 08:41.00 | mgraesslin | qua-non: that's all just X11 |
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| 08:41.46 | qua-non | mgraesslin, ok so you suggest just directly using X11 and kde no longer has a dbus or other interface to allow this anymore? |
| 08:42.10 | mgraesslin | qua-non: I don't think KDE ever had, if it had that was just a weird sideeffect of something else |
| 08:42.33 | qua-non | I don't mind doing this as we already have that implemented, this would just mean we will remove the kde implementation |
| 08:42.40 | mgraesslin | qua-non: the clipboard is just using QClipboard internaly - it is not a clipboard, it's just a wrapper around the X11 clipboard |
| 08:42.43 | qua-non | ok, great. Thanks. |
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| 08:47.49 | vdevatman | hi fellows is there any chance to use KDE with i3wm ? |
| 08:47.58 | vdevatman | instead of kwin/kdm or whatever window manager this uses |
| 08:48.25 | mgraesslin | vdevatman: how does one use a community? ;-) If you talk about usage of KDE applications with i3wm - sure no problem |
| 08:48.40 | mgraesslin | vdevatman: if you mean usage in Plasma: yes possible, but lots of integrated features get lost |
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| 08:49.26 | vdevatman | mgrassli: i find very annoying to have to use the mouse for my usual tasks |
| 08:49.44 | vdevatman | but still enjoy kde's graphical stuff |
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| 08:49.55 | mgraesslin | vdevatman: as the KWin maintainer I can tell you that everything can be done using keyboard shortcuts |
| 08:50.50 | vdevatman | can i turn this from floating into tilling? |
| 08:50.57 | vdevatman | (by default) |
| 08:52.34 | vdevatman | mgraesslin: if thats possible then kde has no caveats for me (not beyond its weight, but that isn't actually a real problem xP) |
| 08:53.32 | mgraesslin | vdevatman: there is no tiling support, but there 3rd party kwin scripts for tiling support, though I do not know the quality of them |
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| 08:54.39 | vdevatman | well, all the graphical stuff that was a pain in the ass from i3wm (or any other) here works "with no reason" i'll give you that xD |
| 08:54.49 | vdevatman | but still miss my tilling workflow |
| 08:54.53 | vdevatman | will do some research i guess |
| 08:56.16 | vdevatman | (i feel unimaginable slow and dumb from floating window mode) |
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| 09:38.47 | JackWinter | hmm, are there still problems with the new networkmanager applets? in both recent ones (kde4/plasma5), i do get the mobile broadband checkbox when i plug in the modem, i also find the dialup accounts when i go to edit connections, but the accounts don't show up in the main nm gui so that i can connect. (archlinux) in the older (legacy) kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement, everything appears to work fine |
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| 09:46.07 | Psi|4ward | JackWinter: take a deep look into your journal |
| 09:54.26 | Psi|4ward | i had a missing file cause i didnt install boradband-services pkg |
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| 10:10.39 | JackWinter | Psi|4ward: i think i have another problem, but there are things to investigate in the log, thanks for the pointer (and hrm, should have started there :) |
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| 10:23.10 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
| 10:29.43 | lordievader | Good afternoon |
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| 10:52.12 | JackWinter | Psi|4ward: heh, it's even worse :) i had the sim card inserted the wrong way in the modem. the old applet would bring up the icons for the connections even though modemmanager failed to init the modem, while the new applets are smarter :) now it works :) |
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| 10:54.44 | Psi|4ward | grats ;) |
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| 11:20.55 | marcuswebb | Hi there |
| 11:20.59 | marcuswebb | Anyone able to help? |
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| 11:21.30 | marcuswebb | Plasma5 desktop crashed and now I can't get anything running - no launcher |
| 11:21.35 | marcuswebb | anyone able to assist? |
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| 11:29.03 | hateball | marcuswebb: restart your session? |
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| 11:36.51 | marcuswebb | hateball: restarted session several times and rebooted server |
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| 11:44.00 | hateball | marcuswebb: guess you could try backing up kde configs and starting clean |
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| 11:45.00 | marcuswebb | Looks like that's the way I'm going to have to go. Glad there's a recovery mode :-/ |
| 11:45.07 | marcuswebb | thanks for assistance all |
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| 13:10.46 | bigbrovar | Hi guys.. don't know if this is the place to ask. But which Long Term support or rolling release distribution already ship with plasma 5.2? |
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| 13:13.12 | baizon | bigbrovar: kubuntu 15.04 |
| 13:13.18 | baizon | bigbrovar: arch |
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| 13:18.40 | fairc | bigbrovar: Kaos http://kaosx.us/ |
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| 13:19.14 | fairc | bigbrovar: and Chakra from 5.4 on http://chakraos.org/ |
| 13:19.21 | fairc | (both rolling) |
| 13:19.32 | einar77_work | bigbrovar: openSUSE Tumbleweed in a couple weeks, too |
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| 13:20.07 | baizon | well i mean most modern distros use kde 5 |
| 13:20.16 | BluesKaj | bigbrovar, make sure to choose a distro that has plenty of support |
| 13:20.32 | bigbrovar | fairc: thanks.. Chakra is based on arch right? |
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| 13:20.58 | fairc | also I believe there must be a page on KDE techbase or somewhere about Plasma 5 distors |
| 13:21.01 | einar77_work | BluesKaj: can you elaborate on "support"? |
| 13:21.08 | BluesKaj | polasma 5 has it's problems, you'll need suport for it , bigbrovar |
| 13:21.18 | BluesKaj | plasma 5 |
| 13:21.37 | fairc | bigbrovar: *was* its still quite similiar but doesn't use the arch code base |
| 13:21.52 | bigbrovar | BluesKaj: sure.. hence why am here. baizon; yeah but how many support it in their long term release .. am a traditional Kubuntu guy but I doubt kde 5 is backported to 14.04 |
| 13:22.03 | jaggzt | I have to kill akonadi (akonadictl stop) to get my kmail working when it repeatedly gets stuck in "Retrieving folder contents"... |
| 13:22.05 | fairc | (means was based on arch) |
| 13:22.47 | bigbrovar | fairc: Oh ok.. |
| 13:22.49 | BluesKaj | bigbrovar, it's not backported to 14.04, but it is available for 14.10 |
| 13:22.50 | baizon | bigbrovar: well, then use kubuntu 15.04, then update to 15.10 and 16.04 |
| 13:23.07 | baizon | BluesKaj: 14.10 isnt very stable |
| 13:23.15 | baizon | 15.04 works fine |
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| 13:23.35 | baizon | im currently on 14.10, will upgrade to 15.04 when i have time :) |
| 13:23.40 | baizon | next weekend maybe |
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| 13:23.44 | bigbrovar | baizon: naa I don't do release to release upgrade.. its either I do LTS or do rolling |
| 13:23.52 | BluesKaj | baizon, I beg to differ, my 14.10 is solid as a rock |
| 13:24.15 | baizon | BluesKaj: 14.10 with kde 5? |
| 13:24.25 | flolo_ | I am using kde5 under Fedora 22 |
| 13:24.31 | baizon | because the standard for 14.10 is 4.14 |
| 13:24.33 | bigbrovar | einar77_work: OpenSuse Tumbleweed is not a stable branch of opensuse or is it? |
| 13:24.43 | flolo_ | when I start my amarok from cli, I get a bunch of errors |
| 13:24.46 | fairc | bigbrovar: Well, the advantage it is not so muhc bleeding edge as Arch is (and thus not so likely to break your system after upgrade) |
| 13:25.10 | flolo_ | e.g. couple of "QSimplex: No feasible solution! " |
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| 13:25.15 | einar77_work | bigbrovar: tested rolling release |
| 13:25.24 | jaggzt | my sent mails aren't showing in my sent mail folder now.. sigh.. |
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| 13:25.54 | bigbrovar | einar77_work: hmmmm... I will look into it thanks |
| 13:25.57 | flolo_ | is there a way to get rid of all those messages? |
| 13:26.26 | einar77_work | bigbrovar: bear in mind P5 is not yet the default, it will once the 5.3 release is out and it's integrated in the testing framework (work in progress already) |
| 13:26.45 | bigbrovar | fairc: I will look at chakra too. It is a rolling release right? |
| 13:27.08 | otjura | just tested kubuntu 15.04 live and there is noticeable difference in font rendering between kde5 and kde4 applications. is this distro-specific problem or unsolved upstream? |
| 13:27.19 | bigbrovar | einar77_work: Thanks but I would rather work with a distro where it is default |
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| 13:27.47 | BluesKaj | baizon, not anymore I just upgraded to 15.04 plasma 5.3, butr plasma 5.2/KF5 ran fine on 14.10, better than it does on 15.04 |
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| 13:29.32 | fairc | bigbrovar: yeah, its rolling. you can check also #chakra |
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| 13:30.47 | einar77_work | bigbrovar: it will be default |
| 13:30.56 | einar77_work | just in a couple of weeks at maximum ;) |
| 13:31.05 | einar77_work | (I'm being overly conservative) |
| 13:31.16 | einar77_work | source: I wrote the migration plan from 4.x to P5 |
| 13:31.51 | bigbrovar | einar77_work: Ok thanks |
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| 13:34.57 | norbert | hi, I'm in Cinnamon and want to use kalarm; when I start kalarm it says "The Akonadi personal information management service is not running. This application cannot be used without it." any suggestions how I would fix this? |
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| 14:02.16 | chouquette | Hi, I'm trying to reach out to someone involved with taglib, but can't find an irc channel, any idea where to reach them? |
| 14:02.34 | chouquette | I guess I could go with their github, but I'd fancy a developer more, since I have a few questions :) |
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| 14:04.50 | norbert | chouquette: if this is the taglib you mean http://taglib.github.io/api/ |
| 14:05.03 | norbert | says "Author Scott Wheeler wheeler@kde.org et al." at the bottom |
| 14:05.41 | Markus_KMi_ | https://taglib.github.io/ has contact info present |
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| 14:05.55 | chouquette | norbert: it is. I guess mail could do, but I was hopping to find someone on irc. Mail will do though |
| 14:06.23 | Markus_KMi_ | Scott is largely inactive |
| 14:06.43 | rdieter | chouquette: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/taglib-devel too |
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| 14:07.16 | norbert | if Markus_KMi_ knows that Scott is largely inactive, maybe talk to him |
| 14:07.26 | norbert | what exactly are your questions |
| 14:07.41 | Markus_KMi_ | dont talk to me, post on the mailing list |
| 14:08.05 | norbert | the mailing list has very few posts per month, and lots never get any replies |
| 14:08.07 | chouquette | Well the mailing list isn't the most active place either :) |
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| 14:09.51 | chouquette | Their github space seems fairly reactive, but it was mostly about the convenience of a chat rather than opening an issue for questions |
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| 14:10.59 | chouquette | I guess I'll open an issue, thanks for your answers! |
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| 14:16.55 | vdevatman | i'm running i3wm and kde at the same time |
| 14:16.56 | vdevatman | XDDD |
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| 14:18.23 | vdevatman | it wasn't that hard, now i have the best of both worlds *-* |
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| 14:42.35 | perillamint | ë¤ã
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| 14:42.36 | perillamint | sorry |
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| 14:46.48 | vdevatman | ok, kde running with i3wm at the same time starts to crash after a while XD |
| 14:46.58 | vdevatman | i was nice while it was workin though :( |
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| 16:10.54 | Kalendium | Hi, looking to swith from XFCe to KDE, I need to know if I can replicate this imgur.com/a/Koza1 |
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| 16:16.39 | Remuz | Kalendium: I don't see anything you couldn't replicate. |
| 16:17.11 | Kalendium | Remuz: top panels |
| 16:17.31 | Kalendium | Remuz: trnasparent top panels and custom menu like whisker in xfce |
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| 16:22.25 | Remuz | Kalendium: there is desktop themes that make panel more or less transparent. or you could make the panel narrow so that it's only where the system tray is if there's no need to put something else to it. |
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| 16:23.52 | Kalendium | Remuz: thanks a lot, I think I'll try KDE ;) |
| 16:24.22 | Kalendium | I'll come later to ask more questions, bye! |
| 16:25.05 | Remuz | Kalendium: the menus are different than whisker but there's many to choose from. the default ones, homerun kicker, lancelot etc. |
| 16:25.38 | Kalendium | Remuz: ... how it's the screen tearing? |
| 16:25.49 | Kalendium | Remuz: I had a lot of troubles with XFCE |
| 16:25.50 | Kalendium | ... |
| 16:27.49 | Remuz | Kalendium: there's vsync setting in plasma. that probably depends on graphics card and it's drivers. I don't have tearing with old ati card and hdmi output. |
| 16:28.46 | Remuz | I did try xfce before settling to kde and I did have tearing in xfce too but not with kde. |
| 16:29.12 | Kalendium | Remuz: thanks!! |
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| 18:29.47 | Peterparcoeur | Hi i have a probleme since a new update i think when i start kde the loading stop at a moment and i think ( or not ) it continues but at the end i just get a cursor with a black wallpaper |
| 18:30.58 | xliiv | hi, how can i make widget for kde5? |
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| 18:36.26 | *** topic/#kde is KDE Plasma 5.2 and KDE Applications 15.04 are out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 18:40.47 | Peterparcoeur | i tried acs32, arch linux |
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| 18:41.08 | Peterparcoeur | acz32* archlinux |
| 18:41.26 | Peterparcoeur | should i just wait for an update then ? |
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| 18:54.03 | acz32 | Peterparcoeur: seems like it. did you try asking in #arch? |
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| 19:26.54 | ioannix | anyone know how long kde-look will be down due to maintenance? |
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| 19:29.31 | ioannix | noone? |
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| 19:29.48 | xliiv | could anyone tell me how does konqueror guestures work? |
| 19:30.41 | xliiv | i enabled it in: 'custom-shortcuts' settings and no idea what's next |
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| 19:34.21 | ioannix | irritating.. |
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| 19:49.28 | Peterparcoeur | acz32, it seems like im not alone |
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| 19:52.46 | acz32 | you aren't. it's a common bug like i said |
| 19:54.04 | xliiv | acz32: it was to me? |
| 19:55.02 | acz32 | xliiv: to Peterparcoeur |
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| 19:55.26 | acz32 | xliiv: did you try man konqueror? |
| 19:56.26 | acz32 | nevermind. i just checked and gestures aren't in there |
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| 20:05.01 | crazydip | is there a way to force an application to minimize to tray (instead of taskbar), if the app does not support it? KDE 4.14.6 |
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| 20:08.56 | rdieter | crazydip: not without help. kdocker is one tool that can help do that, http://kdocker.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:11.11 | crazydip | rdieter: thanks for that! wish KDE supported this natively. |
| 20:11.43 | crazydip | BTW: sf page is the old no longer supported version, the current is not hosted on github: https://github.com/user-none/KDocker |
| 20:11.53 | crazydip | is not = is now |
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| 20:29.49 | Kalendium | What are the advantages of KDE over XFCE? |
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| 20:32.43 | saptech | Kalendium, I would say it's a personal choice |
| 20:32.58 | saptech | KDE probably have more apps included |
| 20:33.36 | Kalendium | saptech: On an *ussual* machine 4GB ram 2,4hz wuad core.... it would make difference in perforance? |
| 20:33.39 | saptech | both are good DE, I've used both at times but I prefer Mate DE |
| 20:33.47 | Kalendium | MAte is KDE? |
| 20:34.02 | saptech | no, Mate is based on old Gnome2 |
| 20:34.28 | saptech | with your specs, xfce & kde should run fine |
| 20:34.42 | saptech | kde is more heavy on memory, I would say |
| 20:35.14 | Kalendium | saptech: Do you think this can be made in KDE? imgur.com/a/Koza1 |
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| 20:36.00 | saptech | I would say so, KDE is very configurable |
| 20:36.53 | Kalendium | saptech: thanks |
| 20:36.53 | Kalendium | I'll try |
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| 20:37.18 | saptech | I have installed kde, gnome, xfce and openbox all on my machine at same time |
| 20:37.28 | crazydip | KDE is by far the most configurable DE out there.... little by little you tweak things here, tweak things there, and after some time you realize how primitive the other DE's are in comparison and you just "can't go back" :) |
| 20:37.48 | saptech | haha |
| 20:38.10 | toan_ | in kde <5.0; i was able to set (change) a window shadow color, but it is no longer in kde 5.x; does anyone know how to customize the window drop shadow color/width in kde5? |
| 20:38.19 | saptech | again, it's a personal choice |
| 20:38.29 | Kalendium | saptech: |
| 20:38.34 | saptech | kde haven't convinced me to use it for my main DE |
| 20:38.38 | Kalendium | saptech: what I'll need to intall kde |
| 20:38.44 | crazydip | saptech: well yeah it always is, like with everything :) |
| 20:38.47 | Kalendium | saptech: what do you use? |
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| 20:39.18 | saptech | I run Mate as my main DE, I was a big Gnome2 fan |
| 20:39.30 | saptech | I do have KDE installed |
| 20:39.38 | saptech | i'm willing to try |
| 20:39.43 | Kalendium | now KDE is the most active(development) |
| 20:39.52 | Kalendium | I think |
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| 20:41.43 | Kalendium | saptech: how do you manage to have all the DE? |
| 20:42.12 | saptech | you can choose which DE when you sign into the OS |
| 20:42.18 | saptech | at the login screen |
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| 20:43.21 | saptech | yes, I would say KDE & Gnome are the most active DE |
| 20:43.50 | saptech | I don't like Gnome3 as much as Gnome2 |
| 20:44.25 | Kalendium | Gnome3 is now gtk3? |
| 20:44.35 | saptech | i think so |
| 20:46.18 | Kalendium | and Openbox is tiling? |
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| 20:47.09 | Roberth1990 | gnome3 has always been gtk3 |
| 20:47.54 | Roberth1990 | saptech: if you want gnome2, there is mate |
| 20:48.06 | saptech | openbox is not tiling, AFAIK |
| 20:48.18 | saptech | yes mate |
| 20:50.50 | saptech | kalendium, if you want tiling, try i3 window manager |
| 20:51.11 | Kalendium | saptech: and which WM= |
| 20:51.22 | Kalendium | saptech: ?* |
| 20:51.47 | saptech | i3 |
| 20:52.16 | Kalendium | saptech: sorry DE |
| 20:52.24 | Kalendium | saptech: I'm multitasking hard xD |
| 20:53.20 | saptech | I use Mate the most but I have KDE installed and Openbox |
| 20:54.22 | Kalendium | saptech: thanks for all the info |
| 20:54.23 | Kalendium | ;) |
| 20:55.00 | saptech | yw |
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| 22:45.11 | jfmcarreira | is it possible to download kde plasma 5.3 tarballs? |
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| 23:10.26 | CharlieTheCabbie | Hi. I have noticed the problems dotted across the web about 15.04 not firing up plasma when used with nvidia drivers; is this limited to specific distros or across the whole of KDE in general? |
| 23:11.08 | CharlieTheCabbie | I ask because I'm experiencing the problem myself on my current distro, and will consider swapping to another KDE based one if the problem doesn't exist there. |
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| 23:50.37 | codebrainz | hi. i upgraded to a newer kde (5?) and qtcreator shows empty file dialogs now. I can get back by clearing QT_PLUGIN_PATH= env. var before running it, but it makes it ugly and use different dialogs. Is there a better work-around? maybe I have some bad plugins? |
| 23:51.02 | codebrainz | I asked on #qt-creator and apparently it's a kde-related bug (affects other programs too) |
| 23:54.01 | codebrainz | it's the same in konsole, but not konqueror, if that matters |
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| 23:55.01 | codebrainz | it's like this: http://i.imgur.com/GHGsQje.png |
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