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| 00:01.27 | acerspyro | tries to recall the error message |
| 00:03.12 | acerspyro | Something about dbus |
| 00:03.18 | acerspyro | That's too generic. |
| 00:03.36 | acerspyro | Couldn't sync environment with dbus. |
| 00:03.38 | acerspyro | iirc |
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| 02:12.26 | ShalokShalom | the visual design team and some others thing about a own menu, where the use can switch between preconfigured desktop settings, like in windows 7, os x, gnome and so, all with plasma 5 of course |
| 02:12.38 | ShalokShalom | does anybody know, what i mean ? |
| 02:14.49 | Dattorz | Currently in Plasma 5 there's a System Settings module where you can change overall appearance of everything at once |
| 02:15.00 | Dattorz | With Breeze and Oxygen as the current options available |
| 02:15.01 | ShalokShalom | i know |
| 02:15.16 | ShalokShalom | is this the implementation i mean ? |
| 02:15.18 | ShalokShalom | :) |
| 02:15.31 | ShalokShalom | can i already design own ones ? |
| 02:15.34 | Dattorz | That is how it is currently implemented if I understand you correctly |
| 02:15.50 | ShalokShalom | or just use breeze and oxygen ? |
| 02:15.52 | Dattorz | I don't see any controls for adding/editing right now |
| 02:15.59 | ShalokShalom | ah, ok |
| 02:16.12 | PovAddict | widget styles are hard to make |
| 02:16.14 | ShalokShalom | how is this menu called, please ? |
| 02:16.15 | PovAddict | they are in C++, for starters |
| 02:16.22 | ShalokShalom | ah, ok |
| 02:16.37 | acerspyro | No? |
| 02:16.38 | ShalokShalom | make that more easy ? |
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| 02:16.45 | Dattorz | Oh, this is general desktop theme, not specifically app widget theme |
| 02:16.52 | ShalokShalom | yes |
| 02:16.59 | ShalokShalom | thats what i mean |
| 02:17.09 | Dattorz | System Settings -> Workplace Theme -> Look and Feel |
| 02:17.14 | acerspyro | workspace |
| 02:17.15 | Dattorz | It's the very first thing in the list |
| 02:17.17 | ShalokShalom | makes all other desktop environments redundant :P |
| 02:17.18 | Dattorz | Right |
| 02:17.19 | Dattorz | Workspace |
| 02:17.20 | Dattorz | My bad |
| 02:17.23 | acerspyro | lol |
| 02:17.25 | ShalokShalom | i am in 4 |
| 02:17.35 | Dattorz | 4 does not have it |
| 02:17.39 | ShalokShalom | i know |
| 02:17.41 | ShalokShalom | anyway |
| 02:17.51 | ShalokShalom | ah, i see it know |
| 02:17.56 | ShalokShalom | i am sleepy :P |
| 02:18.00 | ShalokShalom | thanks :) |
| 02:18.06 | Dattorz | The Oxygen theme is a bit buggy right now though |
| 02:18.09 | ShalokShalom | Look and Feel |
| 02:18.11 | ShalokShalom | ok |
| 02:18.19 | acerspyro | breeze* |
| 02:18.29 | acerspyro | :P |
| 02:18.34 | Dattorz | I mean Oxygen running under 5 |
| 02:18.42 | acerspyro | So both are buggy |
| 02:18.45 | Dattorz | At least, the Plasma theme |
| 02:18.49 | acerspyro | oh |
| 02:18.59 | acerspyro | plasma theme, I thought widget theme |
| 02:19.17 | Dattorz | The Plasma theme is literally broken under 5 haha |
| 02:19.31 | Dattorz | Breeze seems to be the only one working properly right now |
| 02:19.34 | acerspyro | lol |
| 02:19.44 | acerspyro | I was told that BREEZE was the buggy one |
| 02:19.55 | Dattorz | The Breeze windeco is buggy |
| 02:20.01 | ShalokShalom | there is one more, impemented just in one distro: https://github.com/KaOSx/midna |
| 02:20.31 | PovAddict | ah plasma themes are easier, they are just svg |
| 02:20.43 | ShalokShalom | you can clone that repo, and adjust any, it will build with cmake |
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| 02:22.05 | Dattorz | Currently the most stable appearance settings appear to be: Oxygen windeco, either Breeze or Oxygen widget style, Breeze Plasma style |
| 02:22.28 | Dattorz | Hopefully Plasma 5.2 will make some progress on this |
| 02:23.07 | Dattorz | Plasma 5 does "support" KDE4 Plasma themes, but they display all wrong |
| 02:24.41 | ShalokShalom | Dattorz: [03:20] <ShalokShalom> there is one more, impemented just in one distro: https://github.com/KaOSx/midna :P |
| 02:24.51 | ShalokShalom | you can clone that repo, and adjust any, it will build with cmake |
| 02:25.01 | ShalokShalom | it works stable |
| 02:25.09 | ShalokShalom | at least in KaOS |
| 02:25.12 | Dattorz | Is there a preview of this anywhere |
| 02:26.46 | Dattorz | The look-and-feel screenshot in the repo looks a lot like the existing Breeze theme |
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| 02:30.31 | Dattorz | Regarding the system settings overall redesign you might have seen in the design group blog: current System Settings is just the one from 4 but with some of the modules rearranged |
| 02:30.47 | Dattorz | The redesign may be implemented later but currently it's not in |
| 02:31.21 | Dattorz | I have to say though, the new arrangement looks a _lot_ better than the late-KDE4 one |
| 02:32.51 | ShalokShalom | you can see some shots here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/115793168478540780255/posts |
| 02:33.01 | ShalokShalom | scroll a bit :) |
| 02:33.23 | ShalokShalom | that is, what i mean before: http://sessellift.wordpress.com/2014/04/02/choose-your-own-experience-this-time-its-for-real/ |
| 02:34.12 | ShalokShalom | yes, the new system settings are wonderful ^^ |
| 02:34.27 | ShalokShalom | compared to the old ones :P |
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| 02:42.27 | Jef91 | How do I define a keyboard short cut to run a terminal command in KDE? |
| 02:43.02 | ShalokShalom | i think this should be possible with the menu editor |
| 02:43.32 | ShalokShalom | you can define there a command, which can be something like konsole ... and make a short cut for it |
| 02:44.14 | ShalokShalom | (create a new item) |
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| 02:54.29 | tekkbuzz | Jef91: alt-f2 > custom shortcuts in examples there is one called run konsole, also you could do something like: konsole -e "command to execute" |
| 02:54.52 | Jef91 | thanks tekkbuzz |
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| 02:55.12 | tekkbuzz | yw, :) |
| 02:55.16 | ShalokShalom | a yea -e |
| 02:55.27 | ShalokShalom | thanks as well :) |
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| 07:19.47 | dtscode | hey guys... is there any way to stop the screen from locking? new to kde :/ |
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| 07:21.19 | Dattorz | dtscode: Plasma 4 or 5? |
| 07:21.36 | dtscode | ummmm 5 i think |
| 07:21.54 | Dattorz | Wait no, both have the same method |
| 07:22.03 | Dattorz | System Settings -> Display and Monitor -> Screen Locking |
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| 07:22.29 | dtscode | will that keep it from going to the screen saver as well :/ |
| 07:22.32 | dtscode | *? |
| 07:22.37 | Dattorz | The screensaver? |
| 07:22.48 | dtscode | sorry, my typing is subpar this late at night |
| 07:22.58 | Dattorz | The screen locker is the screensaver |
| 07:23.02 | dtscode | ah |
| 07:23.21 | Dattorz | If you're asking how to change display shut off/suspend, it's under Power Management |
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| 07:23.34 | dtscode | alright. i think thats what i was looking for |
| 07:24.49 | dtscode | thank you Dattorz ! that did it |
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| 12:04.50 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 12:06.46 | nemysis | hi BluesKaj |
| 12:07.08 | BluesKaj | hi nemysis |
| 12:07.52 | nemysis | i have fix akonadi with automatic backup |
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| 12:29.37 | nemysis | where store Kontact his data i mean address book |
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| 12:32.08 | nemysis | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.08 | apt | nemysis: okay |
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| 12:54.50 | ArtooDetoo | nemysis: maybe it is stored in the akonadi database ... |
| 12:55.33 | nemysis | i have also looked in ~/.local/share/akonadi |
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| 12:56.31 | nemysis | thanks ArtooDetoo |
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| 13:50.38 | King_DuckZ | hello, is this the right place to ask about tellico? |
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| 14:02.26 | Sho_ | King_DuckZ: yeah |
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| 14:48.21 | King_DuckZ | about the derived names in tellico, is it possible to take the initials of some value from a list? I have some categories like My Category, Your Category etc, and I want some automatic value to be MC, YC... |
| 14:48.33 | King_DuckZ | dependind on what item you chose from the list, is that possible? |
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| 15:43.45 | EvilRoey | Question/problem: I can't pull down the Yakuake console AND use both shift keys together to switch languages (it's either one or the other working at a time). How do I diagnose the issue? |
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| 16:01.36 | daemonkeeper | Can I somehow configure plasma notifications to be larger (i.e. wider)? I have plenty of space on my screen so there is no need to crop e.g. kmail notifications. |
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| 16:03.22 | anonzadas | my notifications are i little messed up too |
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| 16:08.39 | Asymtotic | Can someone tell me how to get the icon toolbars to stop popping up? |
| 16:08.54 | BlaXpirit | probably, if you explain better |
| 16:10.13 | Asymtotic | on the desktop, there's the black rectangular icon configuration bars that always pop up when I mouse over an icon |
| 16:10.53 | Asymtotic | I've been away from KDE for awhile |
| 16:12.27 | anonzadas | in what position of the screen? |
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| 16:14.46 | Asymtotic | any ideas on the icon issue? |
| 16:15.14 | anonzadas | cant understand what icon are you talking about |
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| 16:23.48 | Asymtotic | Hi all...I have a question about desktop icons. I am using Kubuntu with KDE 4. With my icons, the black 'toolbar' keeps popping up everytime I mouse over. Is there a way to stop this behavior? Thanks |
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| 16:36.53 | mefistofeles | Asymtotic: you have to lock the widgets |
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| 16:37.10 | mefistofeles | Asymtotic: commonly in the upper right corner you have some button and some options after you click it |
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| 16:41.57 | Asymtotic | The toolbar I am speaking comes up vertically. It has the icon sizer on top, rotation next, a 'wrench' then the red X to close. |
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| 16:42.40 | mefistofeles | Asymtotic: I know |
| 16:42.46 | mefistofeles | Asymtotic: did you do what I told you? |
| 16:43.22 | anonzadas | if you are talking about that bar on the top of screen with the plasma icon |
| 16:43.26 | anonzadas | i think you cant hide it |
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| 16:43.40 | anonzadas | try click it and move to top right corner |
| 16:43.49 | anonzadas | it becames smaller |
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| 16:44.30 | mefistofeles | anonzadas: no, he's talking about wantint to disable the mennu that appears when you hover over desktop icons |
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| 16:44.36 | mefistofeles | wanting* |
| 16:45.11 | Asymtotic | Yes, that's what I'm talking about mefistofeles |
| 16:45.20 | mefistofeles | Asymtotic: do what I said! |
| 16:45.21 | mefistofeles | xD |
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| 16:46.10 | Asymtotic | Lock widgets? |
| 16:46.22 | anonzadas | aaah, ok, it was hard to understand what he want, you right, just lock it |
| 16:46.48 | mefistofeles | anonzadas: yes |
| 16:46.53 | mefistofeles | I mean Asymtotic â |
| 16:47.20 | Asymtotic | did the trick!! that's what I wanted. So simple...duh! |
| 16:47.23 | Asymtotic | thanks |
| 16:47.25 | mefistofeles | haha np |
| 16:47.45 | Asymtotic | I've been away from KDE for awhile |
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| 17:03.26 | AlisonChaiken | How do I prevent konsole from exiting on Ctrl-D? |
| 17:03.40 | AlisonChaiken | I thought that was settable in "Edit Current Profile" but I can't find it. |
| 17:04.03 | anonzadas | ctrl + D is a syscall |
| 17:04.38 | anonzadas | konsole doesn't handle that keys |
| 17:04.42 | anonzadas | I think... |
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| 17:12.12 | certem | hi |
| 17:12.34 | certem | how can I connect to my blog by bloglio? |
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| 17:37.36 | Ingar | AlisonChaiken: this might help 9if you're using bash) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/139115/disable-ctrl-d-window-close-in-terminator-terminal-emulator |
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| 17:40.41 | AlisonChaiken | Perfect, thanks Ingar. |
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| 17:54.35 | Ingar | AlisonChaiken: yw |
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| 19:24.02 | Peace- | guys i have compiled kdebase apps |
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| 19:24.14 | reward | same |
| 19:24.18 | Peace- | but dolohin seems to NOT SEE phonon from my systems |
| 19:24.41 | Peace- | and it doesn't load terminal emulator too |
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| 19:30.26 | lockwar | te tuka ne pishat.. |
| 19:30.27 | lockwar | :D |
| 19:30.28 | Keremidko | Wassup |
| 19:30.30 | Keremidko | any1 online ? |
| 19:30.31 | Keremidko | Shto ? |
| 19:30.33 | lockwar | deagiznam |
| 19:30.34 | lockwar | shtoto |
| 19:30.37 | lockwar | imat kompleksi :D |
| 19:30.40 | Keremidko | :D |
| 19:30.40 | Keremidko | chai |
| 19:30.42 | lockwar | daje i ashka deto ipisah na ls |
| 19:30.43 | Keremidko | vyv |
| 19:30.44 | Keremidko | #chat |
| 19:30.46 | lockwar | ne mi otg : ( :D |
| 19:30.48 | Keremidko | trqa pishat |
| 19:30.49 | Keremidko | ave |
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| 19:53.41 | rdieter | paulolieuthier: https://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5 |
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| 20:02.30 | paulolieuthier | rdieter_work: thanks very much |
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| 20:08.17 | bulldog | Any clue what might be causing this, or how to diagnose the problem? |
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| 21:28.22 | mefistofeles | bulldog: what if you run it from terminal? |
| 21:30.41 | bulldog | mefistofeles: do you know how to run specifically that module from terminal? |
| 21:31.02 | mefistofeles | bulldog: is it system preferences/settings from kde? |
| 21:31.10 | mefistofeles | not sure which is the one you are running |
| 21:31.30 | bulldog | Its the desktop theme menu within systemsettings5 |
| 21:31.43 | mefistofeles | jsut run systemsettings5 |
| 21:31.47 | mefistofeles | end then go there |
| 21:31.49 | mefistofeles | and* |
| 21:31.51 | bulldog | You navigate to it by going to 'Workspace theme' then 'Desktop theme' |
| 21:31.55 | bulldog | Tried, also crashes |
| 21:31.59 | mefistofeles | from terminal! |
| 21:32.10 | bulldog | yes, I tried from the terminal |
| 21:32.18 | mefistofeles | well, it must output something |
| 21:32.20 | bulldog | I dont even get an error when the thing crashes |
| 21:32.22 | bulldog | Nope |
| 21:32.24 | mefistofeles | uh :S |
| 21:32.44 | bulldog | Well, it does output something when I go to the workspace theme part, but that is before the crash |
| 21:32.49 | bulldog | Constructing a KPluginInfo object from old style JSON. Please use kcoreaddons_desktop_to_json() instead of kservice_desktop_to_json() in your CMake code. |
| 21:32.50 | mefistofeles | works fine here |
| 21:32.59 | bulldog | It used to work before |
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| 21:33.25 | bulldog | I suspect the cause. For some reason my plasma 5 stopped working. So I deleted all user config files, and that made it work again. |
| 21:33.35 | bulldog | Unfortunately, that menu is broken now. |
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| 21:33.54 | mefistofeles | bulldog: http://pastie.org/9828303 this is what I get |
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| 21:47.26 | bulldog | mefistofeles: My ouput is pretty much the same. |
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| 21:52.49 | solicito | How to associate the Fedora Start menu with the Windows keyboard? |
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| 22:00.37 | mefistofeles | solicito: I think KDE doesn't allow the key "meta" as a shortcut |
| 22:01.13 | mefistofeles | never understood why, to be honest, I suspect it's a QT limitation but not sure |
| 22:01.33 | solicito | mefistofeles: what will be the shortcut key for start menu then? |
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| 22:01.50 | mefistofeles | solicito: whatever you want and that KDE allows |
| 22:01.59 | mefistofeles | solicito: right click the menu and it preferences set a shortcut |
| 22:03.06 | solicito | ok cool |
| 22:03.07 | solicito | thanks |
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| 22:20.27 | Yatekii | guys how do I make so kwallet only asks for my pw once |
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| 22:22.19 | chris_hd | does it ask you multiple times? |
| 22:22.34 | acerspyro | It asks me every time here. |
| 22:22.37 | acerspyro | OpenSUSE |
| 22:22.59 | chris_hd | in the config you should be able to select how long is should stay open |
| 22:23.16 | chris_hd | as long as it is open no password is required |
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| 22:46.33 | kdepepo | rdieter_work, could you please check Max patch from bug 271934? |
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| 22:51.33 | rdieter | kdepepo: I asked our polkit maintainer to look at it |
| 22:52.22 | kdepepo | rdieter, good :) if you have packages to test, just add a comment. |
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| 22:52.54 | rdieter | offhand, that "fix" seems odd, it seems the call that is removed in the patch should *help*, not make things bad |
| 22:53.07 | kdepepo | Riddell, same for (K)ubuntu ^ |
| 22:53.17 | rdieter | but it's deep in glib semantics, which is beyond me |
| 22:54.15 | rdieter | if I don't get any response by tomorrow, I'll throw together some patched packages for testing |
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| 23:01.38 | kdepepo | thanks Rex |
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| 23:10.20 | rdieter | kdepepo: woo, polkit maintainer responded... says initially patch looks good, pending some closer inspection, and possible additional audit of other related floating referenced used wrt gvariants |
| 23:10.37 | rdieter | s/referenced/references/ |
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| 23:10.59 | kdepepo | awesome :) |
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