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04:41.01chandanhello all, I have two konsole instances launched and when 'pgrep konsole' is invoked and i see only one process entry in the output. Are new instances of konsole actually just threads of the same older konsole process?
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05:11.30admiralakberHi there, I'm running KDE 4.13 on Arch Linux - How can I get a battery time remaining on the applet? I've tried following http://vizzzion.org/blog/2009/11/battery-improvements-in-kde-plasma-4-4/ to no avail
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05:21.27jalcineThat blog post is 6 years old
05:21.35jalcineand a lot has changed between then and now
05:21.47jalcineconfident that that doesn't apply anymore
05:22.50admiralakberjalcine: Yes, I figured - apparently it works for KDE 4.10 though. However, is there a solution? I notice that using Plasma 5 the app shows time remaining.
05:23.02jalcineafaik nope
05:23.12jalcinemight want to ask the mailing list
05:23.24jalcineor your battery might not support reporting time via acpi
05:25.05admiralakberjalcine: Cheers. =)
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05:38.09Hi-Angelchandan, idk, but I just did «ps -A | grep konsole» with two konsole instances, I Isaw the both processes
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05:40.36chandanHi-Angel: That is the output from 'pstree' command
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05:40.57chandan'ps -A | grep konsole' still gives me only one entry in the output
05:41.54Hi-Angelchandan, are have a tabs in «konsole» opened, or a different instances of the konsole?
05:42.06Hi-AngelI mean
05:42.07chandanHi-Angel: I don't have tabs. Two seperate instances
05:42.25chandani have ctrl-alt-x mapped to launch konsole
05:42.45chandanso i hit them twice to launch two konsole instances (one runs weechat and other runs tmux)
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05:44.14Hi-AngelAh, I know, why I saw two processes: the second konsole I launched from the first konsole. But when I launch an instances separately, I too see only one process. Well, seems konsole indeed uses just a separate threads.
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05:45.06chandanHi-Angel: ok. That is cool. That should save some memory.
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06:17.30ugurI am using Linux Mint 17 KDE and after removing one of the two displays in manage and configure monitors and displays section KDE does not load at startup but it loads normally after switching to recovery mode and then fsck
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06:24.39ugurAlso I don't see size and orientation menu there.
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06:25.17ugurMy KDE version is 4.13.3
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09:30.43sobczykhi, is there a way to install kwin rules from CLI? (or set the globally)
09:31.07mgraesslinsobczyk: yes
09:31.14mgraesslinsobczyk: there are two ways
09:31.32mgraesslinsobczyk: to start an application with some rules you can use "kstart" IIRC
09:32.21mgraesslinsobczyk: for installing a rule use the tool kwin5_update_default_rules in ${LIB_INSTALL_DIR}/kconf_update_bin/
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09:33.01mgraesslinsobczyk: on kde4 it's called kwin_update_default_rules
09:34.33sobczykmgraesslin: is there manual for kwin_update_default_rules?
09:34.54mgraesslinsobczyk: try whether there is a --help option
09:35.08sobczykmgraesslin: no it asks for a file
09:36.58mgraesslinsobczyk: the file is a "rules" file
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09:37.17mgraesslinsobczyk: an example is http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=kde-workspace.git&a=blob&h=5a3821ec9c4c89acbcf9e33d88df234e0dae48a3&hb=f6277ff7cc7e5da03e789a97f48a79a1fac22b61&f=kwin%2Fdata%2Ffsp_workarounds_1.kwinrules
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09:38.33sobczykmgraesslin: thanks, it looks just like a copy of kwinrulesrc
09:39.04mgraesslinsobczyk: yes, if you don't have any other rules it's a copy - that's a rule which is installed by default
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09:45.42sobczykmgraesslin: the export function changes the format though
09:46.47mgraesslinhmm, never used that feature
09:47.02mgraesslinyou can also just extract the part from the kwinrulesrc
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12:33.44BluesKajHiyas all
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12:43.05rindolfBluesKaj: hi, sup?
12:43.29BluesKajHi rindolf, not too much yet, you?
12:44.05rindolfBluesKaj: hi, I handled the morning's email.
12:45.12BluesKajsame here, it's part of my morning routione
12:45.25BluesKajerr routine
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12:52.10rindolfBluesKaj: nice.
12:52.19rindolfBluesKaj: bye, I'm going to rest.
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15:12.02vbgunzI have a KDE bug that is bothering me to no end. I have 3 monitors and occassionaly change between them using a script that calls xrandr and sets it up for me. I even use the proprietary Nvidia control panel to do this. Problem is, when I change the monitor layout, I LOSE my virtual desktops... Clicking on a virtual desktop should be a different wallpaper and icons but all virtual desktops look like desktop 1
15:13.03rindolfvbgunz: hi, no idea about multiple monitors, especially given the proprietary Nvidia stuff.
15:14.59vbgunzI don't know how to get my virtual desktops back
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15:31.32mueslohey, does kmail have support for searching raw mails?
15:31.45muesloI want to search for something specific in the headers
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15:44.24justJanneHi,
15:44.34justJannedoes anyone know where the bugtracker for paste.kde.org is?
15:45.14justJanneOh, I see, thanks anyway.
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16:28.30rubin110Is there any way to get a window to autohide/slide into an edge of the screen?
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16:34.22cb400fif you have a vertical panel with your taskbar on one of the sides ;-)
16:34.30cb400for if you write a kwin script
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16:35.36iateadonuti can execute skype with this command from the terminal:
16:35.37iateadonutskype & skype-call-recorder
16:36.00iateadonutbut when i change the menu item command, only skype but not call recorder executes when i click the skype icon.
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16:36.36rubin110cb400f: This is a window.
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16:38.27cb400fand the magic lamp, minimize etc. desktop effects will animate the minimizing to whereever the taskbar is
16:39.45iateadonutactually, it seems i can right click on the icon and change it to use '& skype-call-recorder'  but i cannot do it from a hotkey
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18:04.43mahomahoHi
18:04.47mahomaho<PROTECTED>
18:04.48mahomahoI have problem with old old application, based on gtk1. I have no fonts in filechooser dialog,
18:04.48mahomahowhen launched eg. in KDE, or twm/wmaker.... but when I run it in gnome3, I have fonts
18:04.48mahomahoany idea what is responsible for renderring fonts in gtk1 dialogs in this situation? how to make them appear in non-gnome environment?
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18:05.51Sho_mahomaho: hmmm did gtk1 still use x core fonts?
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18:06.16mahomahoSho_, I have no idea
18:06.30mahomahobut it works on the same machine, but when logged to gnome3 or xfce
18:06.48mahomahoand fonts looks like ttf one
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18:47.05malaverdiereGood news: I narrowed down the source of the memory leak I complained about. It is the built-in keyboard layout indicator (not the separate plasmoid). Is that component using bubblemon under the hood? (and thus falls in bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1174018)
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18:47.39rdietermalaverdiere: doubtful
18:47.54malaverdiereOk. I'll file a separate bug then
18:48.01rdietermalaverdiere: the layout thing in systray ?
18:48.06malaverdiereyep
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18:48.15rdieterI have it, but don't see leaks
18:48.24rdieterbut I don't *use* it much either
18:48.37malaverdierebut the one that comes when clicking 'show layout indicator' in the system settings
18:48.44rdieteryep
18:48.55malaverdiereThe plasmoid leaks memory only if I keep ctrl-alt-k pressed
18:49.00rdieterbut I only have one layout at the moment
18:49.04malaverdiere:)
18:49.13malaverdiereI have two - canadian french and us english
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18:49.52malaverdiereThe moment I disable the indicator and switched layout like crazy, plasma-desktop didn't gain memory
18:49.55malaverdiereenable again, boom
18:50.03malaverdiereplus, its was taking 20% CPU
18:50.20rdieterexcellent detective work
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18:51.55malaverdiereyou're able to reproduce?
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18:57.22rdietermalaverdiere: no (haven't tried), it's hard to argue with your findings
18:57.38malaverdiereshould I file as kde-runtime component?
18:57.46malaverdiereor its another one?
18:57.51rdieterit's clear in your case, the presence of the indicator combined with layout switching = leak somewhere
18:58.07rdietermalaverdiere: kde-workspace probably
18:58.14malaverdieregreat. thanks
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19:08.27malaverdiererdieter: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1180288
19:11.19rdietermalaverdiere: upstream @ bugs.kde.org would be preferable (chances are less we/downstream will have time/expertise to fix it ourselves)
19:11.57rdieterouchie, 4mb leak
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19:27.41malaverdiererdieter: I was ending up with plasma-desktop at 2 g
19:28.54malaverdiereShould I wait a few days until the fedora maintainers deal with it, or I should put it on bugs.kde.org and link?
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19:39.27rdietermalaverdiere: I'd suggest the latter (please)
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19:54.28malaverdiererdieter: I am filing it upstream under the 'kde' product and which version? The dialogs tell me Platform Version 4.14.3 but that's not in the 'version' list in the bug tracker. Should I put 'git'?
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19:58.18rdietermalaverdiere: I'd go with product: kxkb  (whatever is latest version)
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20:00.27malaverdiereall right, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342637
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20:28.02malaverdiererdieter: I see that you're up-to-date with the bug tracker :)
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