IRC log for #kde on 20141112

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00:20.38grafthi, how do i turn off this dumb baloo file extractor? and why does this thing exist?
00:21.56mvabecause nepomuk was dumbest :-/
00:22.08graftso now this is dumbest instead?
00:22.23mvayup
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00:22.34graftwhy not just... not have such a thing?
00:23.00graftwhatever it is, i'm not sure what nepomuk is meant to do, or why this thing is indexing my files
00:23.09mvathere was some article, about they are JUST LEARNING indexing algorithms, or soethinglike that
00:23.31mvaand nobody cares about the cost of users computers performance ;)
00:23.41ytrezqHello, How I can insert Unicode control characters like ROL and RLE for bi-directional writing?
00:23.45graftexcept the users!
00:23.57mvafew of them
00:24.12mvawhile most of them doesn't care too :-/
00:24.27graftseriously? who wants to have their computer
00:24.41graftchewing up disk as soon as you login
00:25.10mvabtw, talking seriously, you can disable it in systemsettings ;)
00:25.16ytrezqinside any kde applications?
00:25.36ytrezq(or konversation?)
00:26.25mvaytrezq: you can insert if from RMB menu in any kde app
00:26.42ytrezqmva: what is the RMB menu?
00:26.51mvaright mouse button
00:27.17mva[assuming you're right hand user]
00:27.23graftah, thank god...
00:27.43ytrezqmva: no... I don't have anything for that (i'm using debian)
00:27.54ytrezq(kwrite konqueror kate...)
00:27.57ytrezqnone
00:28.56mvaok
00:29.14mvaexcluding text editors and konsole kpart
00:29.23mva(in affects only input fields)
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00:32.39ytrezqhttp://i.stack.imgur.com/EfkWB.png
00:35.16ytrezqhttp://i.stack.imgur.com/EfkWB.png
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00:38.37ytrezqmva: so What I can do for konversation? http://i.stack.imgur.com/9gRkx.png
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00:43.36mvaytrezq: it should be exactly between Ctrl+A and that section with spell checking and that submenu you're opened
00:46.15ytrezqmva: what should be between Ctrl+A and the spell checking language selection?
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00:47.03LapJupwhy does kde not takeover maintaining kshowmail. it's a great application. http://www.mozillaquest.com/Linux03/KShowmail_Delete_Bug_Story01.html http://sourceforge.net/projects/kshowmail/files/kshowmail for KDE4/4.1/
00:47.05LapJupi wanted to put it in my fedora 20 installation but kshowmail is not in the fedora repositories
00:47.10chek2firewhy kde didnt accept bitcoin donations? gnome foundation accept them
00:47.36LapJupgnome sucks
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00:48.53chek2fireyes but it seems that they more open mind than others...
00:48.57chek2fireare*
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00:57.50mvaytrezq: "Insert Unicode control character" menu option
00:58.35ytrezqmva: yes, but I don't have it
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05:25.49Two_Dogsi am presently using mariadb/mysql
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06:19.12KonomiI noticed plasma-nm has a data counter in it "Transmited" "Recieved" but I see no way to reset it, is it just going to count up forever?
06:20.14lordievaderGood morning.
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07:18.03OOPManHey guys, quick question, how can I customise the resolution KDM runs at?
07:31.06Lady_AleenaOOPMan, in KDE 4.8.4 (which is all I can get from Debian), there is System Settings -> Hardware -> Display and Monitor -> Size and Orientation. Hope that helps.
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09:43.13CaterpillarWhat is the KDE component for "Application launcher"?
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10:03.53CaterpillarI have to fill a bugreport
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10:31.57CaterpillarWhat is the KDE component for "Application launcher"? I have to fill a bugreport
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10:32.36hateballas in... not Kickoff or krunner?
10:32.57Caterpillarhateball: the one at bottom left side of the screen
10:33.14CaterpillarI don't know what is its name. Everything in KDE has a f* strange name and I am off of that
10:33.32hateballCaterpillar: the thing with a big K on it that shows your applications?
10:33.56hateballthe "start menu" if you will
10:33.59hateballthat would be Kickoff
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10:35.20Caterpillarhateball: yes thank you
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10:42.00LinnakHi, How can I export and use on other distros Netrunner's or OpenMandriva's Kicker or startmenu?
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10:45.17Caterpillarhateball: there is no kickoff here https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided
10:49.13LinnakI'd like to know where is startmenu folder located in the filesystem
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10:50.16LinnakI think it is called homerun kicker
10:50.38LinnakI'm talking about this menu: https://blogs.kde.org/2014/01/29/homerun-120
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11:16.59rdieterfwiw, the answer to Caterpillar's query is plasma/widget-kickoff
11:16.59rdieterCaterpillar: what's the bug?
11:17.39Caterpillarrdieter: yes I have read in #fedora-kde . A very little problem in classic mode when you remove an application from favorities
11:17.51Caterpillarit makes disappear favorities menu section from Kickoff
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11:18.57rdieterCaterpillar: and?
11:19.16rdieteryou remove something from favorites, and the bug is that it did what you asked?
11:19.32Caterpillarrdieter: I am filling a bugreport with two screenshot
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11:26.37Caterpillarhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340883
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12:49.22Leoneofhi, i'm using kde 4.14.2 , how to remove "Recently Accessed" and "Search For" in dolphin?
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12:51.33OOPManLady_Aleena: Only noticed your message from earlier now :-/ 4.8.4 is pretty old :-) Anyways, the Display item in Settings only controls the resolution for the session, not for KDM :-/
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12:57.19BluesKajHey folks
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14:47.20donniezazen_What does Applications menus daemon do
14:47.22donniezazen_?
14:47.40donniezazen_Is it suppose to be checked or unchecked in P5?
14:47.45Sho_'application menus daemon'?
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14:48.10Sho_oh, in the service manager i gues
14:48.26Sho_donniezazen_: it's for dbus appmenu support, allows things like menus in window title bars or panels
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14:51.01donniezazen_Yes, it is suppose to be check or unchecked in P5?
14:51.06donniezazen_Sho_:
14:51.49donniezazen_Sho_: something turned it off. IDK.
14:51.56Sho_donniezazen_: if you don't use it you can leave it unchecked
14:52.32donniezazen_cool. Thanks.
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16:31.28Evropiall my display stuff just went really weird, first qt applications (qbittorrent) switched to that ugly default theme for whatever reason, then all my fonts were returned to kubuntu's ugly defaults, my theme is missed up (that I cannot seem to correct)...
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16:34.48justanotheruserhello, I updated to kernel 3.16 an now when I resume KDE my screen doesn't turn on unless I'm plugged in. Anyone know how to fix this?
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16:49.25Guest072109sorry for the crossposting but it seemed that #kontact wasn't the correct place to ask user questions.
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16:57.17polihello all! After a backup restoration of my $HOME directory, and a fresh OS install of everything else, all my downloaded widgets went missing "Could not find requested component." When I try to download them again, the installer will show a "Uninstall" button as if they were installed. I checked the list for installed widgets, but they are not here. So I click the "Uninstall" and then "Install again" but that doesn't seem to get them running again. Any ideas?
17:00.01poliI do have the Theme and wallpaper image ok.
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17:08.20poliremoving cache solved it. thanks.
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18:19.38Guest072109do people with answers never come here, just those with questions.  not being sarcastic, just an honest simple question.
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19:07.12BluesKajGuest072109, it's difficult to arrive with answers unless one knows the questions
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19:19.58Guest072109questions above, have to leave now,  be back later to ask again
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19:35.28tormenHi. I would like to use network-manager-openconnect in KDE. But The network-manager settings app under the VPN tab does not list anything related to "openconnect". I only have "OpenVPN", "vpnc", "PPTP", "StrongSwan", "Novel VPN (turnpike)". ... and vpnc is an alternative cisco VPN client (different from openconnect), right ? ...  Can anyone confirm that there should be a "Open Connect" or "Cisco AnyConnect" or something be listed as option
19:35.30tormenwhen adding the VPN via the nm gui applet under KDE ?
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19:37.24rdietertormen: kde network manager has a plugin too, is that part installed
19:37.26rdieter?
19:37.48rdieter(sounds like it isn't if you see nothing in vpn tab)
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19:38.35tormenrdieter: I use debian stable and installed openconnect and network-manager-openconnect.
19:39.57tormenrdieter: hmm what file would I need, then I could find the package ... ;)
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19:44.20tormenrdieter: Sorry, I was not sure if it is important, but yes, I also have "network-manager-gnome" installed and here https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/network-manager-gnome they say: but it also works for other desktop environments which provide a systray like KDE or Xfce.
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19:48.43tormenrdieter: But the "vpnc" vpn type I see is something else, right ?
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20:03.41Leoneoftormen: maybe you have old version, http://liquidat.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/share-wireless.png
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20:08.45Leoneofoh no
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20:19.50JeroenMathonHey i have a problem can anyone help me?
20:20.53blueckJeroenMathon: just ask
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20:21.18JeroenMathonA crash report for KMail keeps popping up has something to do with imap and gmail
20:22.09JeroenMathonI'll link to the bug report
20:22.15tormenLeoneof: Thanks for the screenshot !! ... and yes old(er) version .... of course with Debian things look different ;)
20:22.25JeroenMathonhttps://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340865
20:22.30blueckJeroenMathon: please askon #kontact or #akonadi for issues with kdepim
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20:24.04JeroenMathonAlright thanks
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20:28.46grafthey all, i have a PDF that doesn't render properly with okular (some dots taht should be drawn are not), but renders properly with evince. how do i figure this out?
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21:40.58krzxwtf
21:41.11krzxidk what i changed but no longer can fully maximize windows
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21:49.47resentedhi
21:52.21cb400fkrzx: iirc that can happen when adding empty panels
21:52.41cb400fcheck if you have some excess "cashews" in the screen corners
21:52.53cb400for provide a screenshot of the issue
21:55.09krzxsh yrd
21:55.12krzxah yes
21:55.21krzxi did try adding panels but didnt see them appear
21:55.57krzxyes!!!!!
21:56.06krzxcb400f: thanks i was about to fkn reinstall srsly
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21:56.24krzxcb400f: know why i cant arrange running applications in the bottom panel
21:56.30cb400fworst case you should just need to nuke your plasma config files ;-)
21:56.32krzxused to be able to before this installation
21:56.47krzxnow they just appear in the order i opened them
21:56.52krzxreally affecting my ocd
21:57.01cb400fI guess you need to configure the task manager to "manual" sorting
21:57.32cb400f(right click panel -> task manager settings -> sorting
21:57.57krzxdo not see "task manager settings"
21:58.38krzxit has add widget, add panel, lock widgets, panel settings, remove this panel
21:59.02cb400fdo you have some options under "panel settings" for the task manager?
21:59.31cb400for maybe you're not clicking in the task manager part of the panel?
21:59.50cb400fyou need to click the actual taskmanager.. not the pager, systray or whatever other widgets you might have in the panel
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22:18.45unixfreakWhen using KGet as the downloaded manager for flashgot (firefox addon) sometimes a page will give alot of links, https://i.imgur.com/spOouz6.png  -- how can i deselect all of them? is there a keyboard shortcut or a hidden setting to select none by default?
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22:25.56Walexunixfreak: that's how FlashGot is supposed to work by default. It is a FlashGot issue.
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22:28.50unixfreakso can a program pass a link to KGet so it isn't selected/ticked?
22:29.31unixfreakreally i just want to deselect all in the KGet dialog, as i only need one link when i use it
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22:38.25Walexunixfreak: KGet is supposed to download all the links you send to you. It does not make sense to send a link to a download program without wanting it to download.
22:38.34Walexunixfreak: just don't send the link...
22:39.02unixfreakwhy does it have selection boxes then?
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22:40.13unixfreaknvm i'll use something else
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22:45.14krzxhow do i change the color of the text or box when i hover over something
22:45.31krzxim using black pearl theme and those hovers are all black including the text
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22:57.59Walexkrzx: some themes have customizable settings, some not.
22:58.35krzxi got it
22:58.36krzxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580266
22:58.40krzxreply by eltama there
22:58.42Walexkrzx: but if you are referring to colors only, it is
22:59.16chek2fireyou need to accept bitcoin donations asap. Gnome already did it..
22:59.58krzxwat
23:00.04krzxi need some bitcoin donations
23:00.21chek2fireKDE i mean..
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23:01.04krzxi dont follow
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23:10.38Oksanakrzx: chek2fire means that KDE should be able to accept bitcoin donations, like GNOME already does
23:10.59chek2fireyes sorry for my bad english
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23:13.20krzxOksana: i dont understand
23:13.33krzxyou mean accept donations for development or a wallet to handle an individuals btc
23:13.46krzxin that case i use coinbase on the www
23:13.51Oksanakrzx: Donations to KDE for KDE development.
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23:14.05krzxi dont donate shit im damn near homeless i live off dumpstering and panhandling
23:14.09krzxIM ACCEPTING DONATIONS
23:14.18OksanaFor what?
23:14.32OksanaPeople like to invest when they see a positive result.
23:14.48sbdsrdoes anyone know how to get labels working in gmail as described in this article by Daniel Vratil http://www.dvratil.cz/2014/06/improved-gmail-integration-in-kde-pim-4-14/
23:15.20OksanaGiving food to a person is not positive enough because the person still needs food one day-week-month later.
23:15.28dvratilsbdsr, there's a second part to the blog post: http://www.dvratil.cz/2014/07/no-gmail-integration-in-4-14-after-all/ :(
23:16.12sbdsrahhh crap....really....should I even click the link sheesh...LOL
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23:17.16krzxim taking donations for anything
23:17.19krzxlasagna
23:17.19krzxsocks
23:17.25krzxa tortoise
23:17.25krzxw/e
23:17.29sbdsrthanks dvratil
23:17.42Oksanakrzx: Do you need electricity?
23:18.12dvratilsbdsr, I hoped to have some beta ready before Christmas, but so far it does not look very realistic
23:18.20krzxprob not as much as i use it
23:18.40sbdsrok dvratil I'll just work with what I have....thanks
23:20.00Oksanakrzx: What are you using it for? If you reduce your electricity usage, will it reduce your bills, or do you have some flat tariff?
23:20.36krzxi dont pay the bill
23:20.57krzxi got rid of my reptiles because everything i had running was using alot of these peoples electricity
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23:23.34OksanaSo somebody else pays the bill, and to reduce the electricity usage (for aquariums-terrariums?), you had to get rid of your reptiles... Can you persuade this somebody else to install solar-or-wind electricity generators? To reduce the electricitybill?
23:25.32krzxi use solar and batteries and inverter when i live outside
23:25.50Oksana:-)
23:26.11krzxhunters stole my panel
23:27.06OksanaWere the hunters too poor to buy such panel themselves? :-/
23:27.19krzxyah probably
23:27.44OksanaDid you get a new panel?
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23:30.23krzxOksana: did not
23:30.31krzxand this is the time of year i most need it
23:30.36OksanaWhy not?
23:30.43krzxno $
23:30.52krzxmy current investment is saving a tortoise
23:31.02OksanaSaving from what?
23:31.44krzxwell this store is closing and idk what they are gonna do with the tortoise
23:32.15OksanaAh, local pet store? Did you ask them?
23:32.33krzxhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/r90/10525643_10203708546409985_2299299120829696270_n.jpg?oh=1b4c146101b8030c0b6d5a367611440b&oe=54ECC495&__gda__=1423699742_ca5d40df585fa6b45bb6e283c510e76b
23:32.49krzxthey are trying to sell everything to pay debts and such
23:33.13krzxthats kayla. shes 17 and weighs 200lbs
23:33.18krzxlike my gf when i was 17
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23:34.42Oksanakrzx: no $ - could I help? With tortoise, at least, since it's urgent?
23:35.08krzxyah im taking donations. currently there is $25US in the fund
23:35.12OksanaAnd do you know where to put the tortoise afterwards? Since you do not have the electricity to keep it?
23:35.23krzxi accept paypal, google wallet, whatever really
23:35.37krzxi have electricity and a house and yard
23:35.49krzxwell not mine but yah
23:36.00Oksanakrzx: Donations - where to?
23:36.04krzxi dont want it to go to some zoo or something
23:36.13OksanaWhy not?
23:36.14krzxpaypal krzxbleach@aim.com
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23:37.07OksanaWill remember :-) Maybe, a donation within 24 hours, if I find time.
23:37.45krzxgoogle wallet krzx34@gmail.com
23:38.42OksanaSorry, do not know how to use Google wallet.
23:38.43krzxthe tortoise will have its own facebook page if/when i get her so everyone can keep up with her day to day life
23:38.49krzxme either lol
23:38.52Oksana:-)
23:41.09Oksana90kg :-) Nice. What kind of tortoise is that? How long can she be expected to live?
23:42.50krzxthe oldest in captivity is 54 years but speculated they can live over 150 years
23:43.02krzxrelated species has been documented to live for well over 300 years
23:43.06krzxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_spurred_tortoise
23:44.27krzxthe longest a turtle has ever been in capitivty and documented was 188 years
23:44.30krzxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu%27i_Malila
23:44.43krzxTu'i Malila (1777 - 19 May 1965) was a tortoise allegedly given to the royal family of Tonga by Captain James Cook. It was a radiated tortoise (Geochelone radiata) from Madagascar and is the longest-lived tortoise whose age has been verified.
23:45.13Oksana:-)
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23:47.30krzxi built a terarium type thing
23:48.10krzxstrong enough to support 200lbs and no glass
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23:58.06OksanaGreat :-) What does it like to eat? Grasses and plants, high in fiber and very low in protein. Not fruit. No excessive protein (such as caterpillars and snails). Need calcium from soil or supplements. Some common garden plants, such as azaleas, are toxic to tortoises. Make them a salad with chopped up carrots , lettuce and greens with calcium d on it.
23:58.41krzxyep wouldnt cost anything to feed i always have spare veggies

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