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09:58.25lord_robHi! Is there something better than Storage Service Manager to manage google drive with KDE? Or do I misunderstand it and it can act as a PIM module ?
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10:43.02lord_robI see I confuse PIM with kioslave ... and that's a kioslave that I'd need
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10:53.39BluesKajHI folks
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12:35.23cekThe Email program encountered a fatal error and will terminate now.
12:35.23cekThe error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection.
12:35.35cekafter wiping akonadi DB from mysql
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12:36.26cekmysql  Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.39, for Linux (x86_64) using readline 6.2
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14:03.33interwebHi , How can I install latest kde on ubuntu 14.04 ?
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14:05.55silverloadwow kde comes with a kde app that will help me learn japanese!
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14:08.10Fudusapt-get install plasma-desktop , it'll appear in lightdm, click on  the little ubuntu icon to change to plasma
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14:13.08BluesKajinterweb, actually install kubuntu-desktop , that will include plasma and give you the kde versions of default apps
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14:13.36interwebBluesKaj, Is kubuntu-desktop  , kde 5 ?
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14:14.04Luzifer9999Hey guys I have a huge problem with my knees environment. I have a raid 5 with 4 disks an all 4 disk should go sleep after 15 minutes. But after I installed the kde and KDM on my server the hard disks won't go to sleep.
14:14.20Luzifer9999Not knees kde
14:14.20BluesKajkde5 is not available , only KF5 and plasma5
14:14.35BluesKajinterweb,^
14:15.11thiagoLuzifer9999: that means something is writing to something less than 15 minutes apart
14:15.43thiagothere's a switch for the kernel that makes it dump the process and path that is getting written. Or iotop.
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14:16.14Luzifer9999Maybe but what? If I stop the environment the hard disks go to sleep.
14:16.59thiagoanything
14:17.08thiagoit's probably the logging that is going to ~/.xsession-errors
14:17.16thiagoKDE applications are really noisy
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14:19.12Luzifer9999I also used iotop -of but it don't helps me.  This raid is only for data reasons.
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14:21.43thiagoagain, you need to check what's being written to
14:21.56thiagoit's also possible it's the baloo indexer. Make it not scan your array.
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15:26.21moviuroHi all! What is the state of kdeconnect? Are we getting calls and SMS to the desktop soon? :D
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15:26.52silverloadfound out why kde4 on my slackware 14.1 box kept freezing up
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15:34.15stickyb1thow are calls and SMS going to implemented?
15:34.33stickyb1tseems really awesome, but hard to pull off
15:34.50stickyb1tRE KDEconnect
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16:26.27moviurostickyb1t: dunno, but they implemented a remote touchpad, so everything seems possible
16:26.48moviuroWiFi + SMS API + Phone API + Phonon
16:26.57moviuro(I have no idea what I'm talking about, though)
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17:19.49IllusioneerIn the KDE notification window, some notifications have buttons you can press (like phonon or disk space), is there a way to do your own?
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17:53.32rdieterIllusioneer: can you be more specific about what you mean by "a way to do you own"?
17:53.40rdieterdo your own, that is
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17:57.04Illusioneerrdieter: as in if I wanted to have a responsive notification like Yes/No
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17:58.45rdieterIllusioneer: in a kde application if your own?  sure
17:59.34Illusioneerno i meant via shell command
17:59.52rdieterIllusioneer: kdialog is the way to go, but I dont think it supports this specific thing
18:00.16rdieterit can do responsive dialogs though
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18:00.59rdieterIllusioneer: kdialog --help , should give a plethora of options, including --menu, --combobox, --checklist, --radiolist
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18:04.32Illusioneerrdieter: yes, global popups, I am referring to the little notification window
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18:06.15rdieterkdialog does support --passivepopup which goes to notifications, but I don't think it supports what you're asking for here
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18:09.46Illusioneeryeah I was figuring that'd be the case :(
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18:21.25zoldyck"Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4" <-- does it suggest there's always a better way to fix things?
18:21.45thiagoyes, just fix the problem
18:22.15cb400for at least just delete specific single files... not your complete god damn data
18:22.52zoldyckI'll have to delete it anyway when Applications 5 are released. Right? :)
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18:23.32zoldyckor will it be a smooth upgrade?
18:24.07rdieterzoldyck: kf5 doesn't use ~/.kde in general (any more), but rather ~/.config ~/.local instead
18:24.08thiagoit should be a smooth upgrade
18:24.21rdieterso yeah, smooth(ish)
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19:03.18aljosaenergy saving, dim screen and switch off timeout, doesn't activate when i lock screen. is there a way to apply power settings when i lock screen?
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19:06.06rdieteraljosa: its supposed to 'just work' there too (it does for me), odd.
19:13.51aljosardieter: my mistake, wrong settings
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19:16.47Safa_[A_boy]Hello. Where does KDE saves the .desktop files in my home?
19:18.07dyrvereSafa_[A_boy]: do you mean ~/.local/share/applications/ ?
19:18.28Safa_[A_boy]YES!!
19:18.32Safa_[A_boy]Thanks! :)
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19:27.00xmorphhi, is there a way to disable Activities ?
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19:34.16cb400fxmorph: just delete the activities you don't use, and remove the activities widget
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19:36.06xmorphcb400f, every time i install KDE some strange thing hapens. when i configure desktop (change view mode, wallpaper, add some widget) i logout and login again my setting are lost
19:36.29xmorphi think that's activities stuff, right ?
19:36.46xmorphonly my desktop settings are lost. not everything.
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19:45.12cb400fxmorph: well.. it prolly means plasma crashed on logout, so your settings didn't get saved.. activities could cause that.. other stuff like funky widgets or a broken distro/installation might cause it too
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21:01.14RLawhat algorithm kde uses for scaling icons?
21:02.24Sho_RLa: bilinear iirc
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21:05.22RLaSho_, thanks!
21:06.07Sho_RLa: Note however that on disk there are usually multiple pre-rasterized (and hand-hinted to some degree) versions at different sizes
21:06.28Sho_RLa: So any scaling done is usually relative to one of those
21:07.33RLai was drawing some icons and resizing to 16px, i notices that kde does it better than any scaling option in gimp
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21:18.40thiagobecause of the hand-scaling
21:18.50thiagothere are pre-rendered versions of 16px
21:19.12i1x2n37hey, if i autocomplete a word in Kile while i am in the middle of a string, it will remove anything after my cursor when placing the autocompletion
21:19.38i1x2n37this is a problem if i want to insert a word before an existing one and accidentaly delete the word when autocompleting
21:19.44i1x2n37any idea if this is configurable?
21:21.21i1x2n37for example i have "these are some words". i move the cursor to insert a new word "these are some |words" and start typing. "these are some mor|words"
21:21.37i1x2n37auto completion appears for "more", i accept and end up with "these are more words"
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21:22.26Sho_i1x2n37: Sounds like a bug to me
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21:25.20i1x2n37Sho_, to me too but i am not so sure
21:25.29i1x2n37been like this for years iirc
21:26.07Sho_i1x2n37: However your description and your example don't seem to match up
21:26.28i1x2n37sorry, mistyped
21:26.31Sho_In your description something after the cursor is removed, in your example a word before the cursor vanishes
21:26.39i1x2n37i end up with "these are some more"
21:27.03i1x2n37"words" was behind the cursor at completion time and gets deleted
21:27.19Sho_is it directly behind the cursor or is there an extra space?
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21:27.57i1x2n37directly. i use ctrl with cursor keys to navigate, so i end up there when i want to insert words.
21:28.07Sho_i1x2n37: I don't have Kile here but I have other apps using the same embedded editor
21:28.22Sho_i1x2n37: Try to find the "Editing" options, then see "Auto complete" and uncheck "Remove tail on complete"
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21:29.22i1x2n37yes! that did it. thank you so much
21:29.39i1x2n37kile has auto complete options in two places, you made me find the other one where that option hides
21:30.07i1x2n37no more procrastination, now i have to get back to work
21:30.15i1x2n37thanks and have a good day/night
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21:32.03Sho_i1x2n37: you're welcome
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22:35.26shevyfor kde autostart
22:35.31shevyI just symlink into $HOME/.kde/Autostart/ ?
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22:44.26magyarhi, is there a way in KDE not to pan multiple monitor outputs?
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23:08.26rdietermagyar:
23:08.42rdietermagyar: what would you rather it do then?
23:08.59magyarhow it's own desktop
23:09.03magyarrdieter: ^
23:09.16rdieterdefine "own desktop"
23:09.31rdieterfor example, full screen windows should generally be only one monitor
23:09.43rdieterand plasma panel should span only one monitor
23:09.57rdieter(at least, that's how it works for me)
23:09.58magyarmultiseat kind, I want to have the TV that is connected to the tv through HDMI play youtube for kids
23:10.23rdieterhow does it not do that now?
23:10.53rdieteryou cant have an app window be only on the HDMI/TV output now?
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23:12.07magyarnope, I have to move it into the screen, as all my desktops (six) in total are spanning across the DVI and HDMI outputs
23:12.54magyarif I switch ti a different desktop the youtube video disappears etc
23:13.58magyarso I was wondering if there is a way to run a second X session with audio and videos on HDMI and my desktop on the DVI output from an Radeon  HD 4870
23:14.40rdieterah, you mean virtual desktops?
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23:15.15rdieteryou can set an app to be on all (virtual) desktops
23:15.31rdieterright click title bar -> move to desktop -> all desktops
23:15.41rdietermagyar: ^^ then it should be there no matter what
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23:16.01rdieterno matter which desktop you switch to anyway
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23:31.13magyarrdieter: thanks, that worked
23:31.23rdieteryay, another win for the good guys
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