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| 02:17.05 | *** topic/#kde is Support KDE: http://www.kde.org/fundraisers/randameetings2014/ | KDE SC 4.13 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 02:24.26 | twb | Does the files in e.g. http://edu.kde.org/contrib/kvtml2/ come out of a VCS repo somewhere? I want to make an offline copy of the whole lot (it's for an airgapped site) and "git clone" would be easier than scraping and parsing the XML |
| 02:24.51 | twb | (The index files all have absolute URLs in them so I need to fix that as well.) |
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| 07:59.08 | ntz | hello |
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| 08:00.26 | ntz | may I ask .. I can't find in kmail/kontact settings where can I enable that message will be shown in html if it is in html .. I have to click on special button where it is in html showing me spagetti code |
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| 08:06.57 | Jucato | ntz: Settings -> Configure KMail -> Security page -> Reading tab perhaps? |
| 08:07.40 | Jucato | i think that can still be overridden by per-folder settings (Folder menu -> Prefer HTML to Plain Text) though not completely sure |
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| 08:12.45 | q9 | Hi, is it possible to blacklist certain programs (especially screen) for the konsole tabclose confirmation? |
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| 09:05.37 | ntz | Jucato: thanks ... going to check it |
| 09:08.18 | ntz | Jucato: thanks ... it's there, works now ... I wasn't looking in security folder |
| 09:12.12 | Jucato | glad that it worked |
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| 10:18.44 | moviuro | Thos who helped me yesterday with baloo: removing the unindexable file, then letting baloo stop, putting the computer throuhg sleep/resume, launching balooctl start made it all work. Magic. |
| 10:20.52 | ntz | hmm ... kde kmail/kontact has some really ridiculous issues :D .. for example if I enable in kmail view colums signature, attachment (whatever) it doesn't show if the mail is signed (or contains attachement) until I click on it .. sad |
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| 10:55.29 | SmilinSun | Hi. I installed the kde-windows port last night & it's working fairly well except for two small problems... nopomuk indicates it can't run because the virtuoso soprano plugin isn't available (however there is a dll in the plugin directory to this effect) & when I try and access the multimedia section of system settings systemsettings.exe freezes. Anyone able to help? #kde-windows has been... |
| 10:55.30 | SmilinSun | ...bead for about 4 hours |
| 10:55.37 | SmilinSun | bead=dead |
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| 11:23.59 | BluesKaj | 'Morning all |
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| 11:26.09 | Oxid | hi |
| 11:27.27 | Oxid | anyone knows how can i mange the devices on my notebook ? |
| 11:27.36 | function9 | hi |
| 11:28.06 | function9 | your using root in irc? |
| 11:28.25 | Oxid | yes, why ? |
| 11:28.54 | function9 | nm I gotta reboot |
| 11:28.56 | Oxid | but how do you know? |
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| 11:30.57 | Jucato | [19:25] --> Oxid (~root@188.24.181.94) has joined this channel. <--- that's how. it becomes public information |
| 11:32.45 | Oxid | and somebody can use that to hack my pc or what? |
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| 11:33.59 | Jucato | at the very least it invites people to try knowing that the user you are connected with has admin privileges |
| 11:34.44 | function9 | Oxid: root should never be used for internet use. Anyways, what did you need help with? |
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| 11:36.14 | Oxid | a want to see if my devices have drivers or not, for example the smart card reader |
| 11:38.09 | Oxid | i can't find anything on google, only lspci and lsusb but dos not help much |
| 11:38.32 | function9 | Oxid: which linux distro are you using? |
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| 11:39.20 | Oxid | kali |
| 11:41.30 | function9 | oxid: do you have apt-get installed? |
| 11:41.39 | Oxid | yes |
| 11:41.42 | function9 | i'm not familiar with that distro |
| 11:41.59 | function9 | do you have inxi? |
| 11:42.13 | function9 | open a terminal and type inxi |
| 11:42.25 | function9 | anything? |
| 11:42.43 | Oxid | command not found |
| 11:42.48 | function9 | ok |
| 11:43.07 | function9 | Oxid: type sudo apt-get install sysinfo |
| 11:43.34 | function9 | that will tell you all you hardware that is setup with drivers |
| 11:44.14 | function9 | if you want something better than sysinfo. sudo apt-get install inxi |
| 11:44.46 | function9 | that is if they are available for your distro. Other than that you'd have to learn lsusb, lspci, and dmesg |
| 11:45.01 | function9 | bbl |
| 11:45.23 | Jucato | Oxid: it might be better to ask in the IRC channel for your distro. dunno what it is for Kali though |
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| 11:46.38 | Oxid | debian if i remember |
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| 12:59.34 | neoclust | hi |
| 12:59.45 | neoclust | i want to compiler kdesu 4.100.0 but i obtain in cmake |
| 12:59.46 | neoclust | CMake Error at src/kdesud/CMakeLists.txt:21 (macro_add_compile_flags): Unknown CMake command "macro_add_compile_flags". |
| 12:59.56 | neoclust | do you have an idea of what is wrong ? |
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| 13:01.23 | krion | hello |
| 13:01.35 | krion | i wish to decode konsole history file |
| 13:02.01 | krion | i try base64 decode but looks like it isn't encoded that way |
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| 13:06.44 | disorder20 | hi |
| 13:06.57 | disorder20 | is there a note plasmoid with multiple notes/tabs? |
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| 15:04.11 | MichaelP | Any good kde5 distro's out there yet |
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| 15:20.10 | luca__ | Hello, everyone! I have problems with KDE Connect applet in Fedora. I just can't seem to make it work with my smartphone (galaxy s3) |
| 15:20.21 | rdieter_work | luca__: probably firewall |
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| 15:20.53 | luca__ | how do i make it work? I mean, the firewall |
| 15:21.07 | rdieter_work | luca__: this g+ thread has some suggestions, https://plus.google.com/u/0/100791331791146799381/posts/C8hr6zYTjA4 |
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| 15:23.17 | luca__ | thanks @rdieter_work ! |
| 15:23.24 | luca__ | now it works |
| 15:23.27 | luca__ | really thanks! |
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| 17:22.43 | lordievader | Good evening. |
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| 17:29.52 | *** topic/#kde is Support KDE: http://www.kde.org/fundraisers/randameetings2014/ | KDE SC 4.13 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 17:32.16 | jthomas_ | Good day! I have a new Debian 7 x64 install with KDE, and the KDE seems to freeze up and I can't click anything; instead my mouse 'clicks through' the KWin borders, panels, etc. |
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| 17:35.08 | cb400f | try if disabling desktop effects changes anything... and think about what your gfxcard + gfxdriver situation |
| 17:35.24 | jthomas_ | turned them off, no fix |
| 17:35.41 | jthomas_ | it's a 2007 iMac machine with Radeon drivers |
| 17:35.46 | jthomas_ | FLOSS drivers |
| 17:36.08 | jthomas_ | er, maybe not FLOSS; got 'em from linux-drivers-nonfree Debian package |
| 17:36.48 | cb400f | wonder if that's generic radeon on or some funky Apple-only custom radeon cards |
| 17:37.40 | jthomas_ | that's possible |
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| 18:09.36 | Anarch | I just got KDE installed. How can I configure the window manager to put useful buttons on windows like Konsole? I need to be able to move, resize, etc. |
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| 18:10.58 | ryukafalz | Anarch: You need buttons to move...? |
| 18:11.47 | ryukafalz | As far as resize button goes, Settings->Workspace Appearance->Configure Decoration (in Window Decorations tab) |
| 18:11.55 | Anarch | Yes (it seems). Now, when I create an xterm, it's locked to the top right, can't move or be moved by any means I know of, and has no buttons for things like maximizing, resizing, etc. |
| 18:12.06 | ryukafalz | O.o |
| 18:12.08 | ryukafalz | uhh |
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| 18:12.20 | cb400f | Anarch: clearly your installation is broken |
| 18:12.24 | ryukafalz | is KWin even running? |
| 18:12.39 | cb400f | yep, sounds like you don't have kwin at all |
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| 18:13.26 | Anarch | ryukafalz: I don't know what KWin is, or how to find out whether it's running ... were you talking to me? (If so, THANKS; I'm more desperate than you'd believe.) |
| 18:13.48 | cb400f | kwin is the kde window manager |
| 18:14.21 | Anarch | cb400f: Well, if KWin *isn't* running, that'd make enormous sense, because this is behaving EXACTLY like a system that has no window manager. |
| 18:14.42 | cb400f | and there are about a trillion different ways to check if some process is running... e.g. Ctrl+Esc... but that would require a window manager ;-) |
| 18:14.59 | Anarch | cb400f: I have an ssh session to the box ... checking ... `ps auxw` contains no "kwin". |
| 18:15.02 | ryukafalz | Anarch: I was indeed. Try running "ps aux | grep kwin" |
| 18:15.06 | ryukafalz | or that haha |
| 18:15.23 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Just checked that in response to cb400f: not there. |
| 18:15.38 | ryukafalz | yeah, KWin should be starting automatically when you log in... what's your distro and display manager? |
| 18:15.46 | Anarch | ryukafalz: However, I see a /usr/bin/kwin. |
| 18:16.00 | Anarch | No manual entry for kwin |
| 18:16.10 | ryukafalz | there isn't a man page, yeah |
| 18:16.44 | Anarch | I'm inclined to just try running kwin from the command line. I wouldn't be surprised if that forces me to reboot, but I'll hardly be worse off. |
| 18:18.06 | Anarch | "We are sorry, KWin closed unexpectedly." Well, that's why it's not running; it's broken. |
| 18:18.35 | ryukafalz | Anarch: What distro? |
| 18:19.27 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Debian Wheezy ("stable"). I installed KDE by installing the kde-full package, which required me to subsequently install a lot of stuff by hand, including the X server. |
| 18:19.35 | ryukafalz | O.o |
| 18:19.49 | ryukafalz | one would think the X server would be pulled in as a dependency |
| 18:20.44 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Notwithstanding the error dialog I just got, running KWin appears to have enabled window manager functions. Now, ps shows 3 kwins running; one is just "kwin", 2 are "kwin --crashes". |
| 18:20.59 | ryukafalz | heh, interesting |
| 18:21.15 | ryukafalz | so you should have window borders and buttons now :P |
| 18:21.30 | Anarch | ryukafalz: I'm sorry to be asking these newbie questions; I know the standard answer is "RTFFM", so, BTW, Help doesn't work: "Could not find service khelpcenter". |
| 18:22.08 | ryukafalz | Mmm... do you have the package installed? Looks like it's khelpcenter4 |
| 18:22.34 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Yes, I do have those now, and can move windows. So the "answer" is that the window manager wasn't running; the reason was that it's too flaky to run reliably, but I can run it unreliably. |
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| 18:23.01 | ryukafalz | Anarch: I mean, I would suggest figuring out why it's not starting up automatically, but that's something for now :P |
| 18:23.16 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Checking khelpcenter4 ... the package exists and was not installed. Thanks again. |
| 18:23.26 | ryukafalz | no problem |
| 18:25.21 | ryukafalz | yarr, I do Linux tech support as my day job, and I find myself doing it on IRC too :P |
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| 18:41.18 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Well, just so you can feel good about it: I'm physically disabled after having had a stroke, so I can't buy food in any way except online. Safeway used to have a text-only web site I bought food from, but at the end of April they disabled it ... and that was the last time I was able to buy food. Now I'm down to a few jars of pickles. So I'm doing this IN ORDER TO BUY FOOD (!), and still haven't even gotten to where it's worth TRYING to run a browser! |
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| 18:42.07 | ryukafalz | :O oh dang, that sucks |
| 18:42.46 | Anarch | I have an ~/.Xresources file, but it's not automatically read. I need to run 'xrdb -nocpp ~/.Xresources' by hand. Is there someplace I can put that command to cause it to be automatically executed whenever KDE is started? It's needed to make things like xterm usable. |
| 18:43.51 | ryukafalz | sounds like something to put in your xinitrc - that's run when X is started |
| 18:44.14 | ryukafalz | $HOME/.xinitrc for per-user settings |
| 18:44.32 | ryukafalz | how are you starting KDE btw? |
| 18:44.56 | Anarch | ryukafalz: That *already* contains 'xrdb -nocpp ~w/.Xresources |
| 18:45.15 | Anarch | ryukafalz: That *already* contains 'xrdb -nocpp ~w/.Xresources', but it didn't run, apparently. |
| 18:45.20 | ryukafalz | is "w" your username? |
| 18:45.54 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Yes (one of them). |
| 18:46.13 | ryukafalz | hmm |
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| 18:46.45 | ryukafalz | as far as running a browser goes, shouldn't you be good to go at this point though? |
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| 18:47.01 | ryukafalz | you've got network connectivity and a working X server |
| 18:47.17 | Anarch | ryukafalz: xinitrc also had a line 'xmodmap ~w/.Xmodmap', legacy from an old X, but ~w/.Xmodmap has had everything commented out except a line saying 'pointer = 1 3 2 4 5', so it should be harmless. |
| 18:48.37 | ryukafalz | X server stuff unfortunately isn't my strong suit, I do support for Linux servers, heh |
| 18:48.43 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Apropos the browser: almost. I need ssh connectivity to another older box, but that can be set up from the command line, with which I'm comfortable. But because of the ubiquitous Javascript, I'm going to need to run the browser as a different user, and this system has been so flaky that I expect trouble with that. I'm getting all my other ducks in a row first. |
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| 18:52.00 | Anarch | ryukafalz: You asked how I'm starting KDE. I reboot the system and wait for KDM to display its box, then log on. The first time I did this, I enthusiastically also simultaneously SSHed in, then did <Ctrl-Alt-f1> to see how the console worked; this hung the system except for the SSH session, from which I saw in /var/log/syslog kernel: [ 104.012018] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung. So, after the next reboot, I politely wai |
| 18:52.11 | Anarch | ryukafalz: You asked how I'm starting KDE. I reboot the system and wait for KDM to display its box, then log on. The first time I did this, I enthusiastically also simultaneously SSHed in, then did <Ctrl-Alt-f1> to see how the console worked; this hung the system except for the SSH session, from which I saw in /var/log/syslog kernel: [ 104.012018] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung. So, after the next reboot, I politely wai |
| 18:52.30 | Anarch | Oops ... sorry for the double post. |
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| 18:55.26 | ryukafalz | Ah, okay. What I was looking for there was that it's KDM as opposed to something else. |
| 18:55.44 | ryukafalz | and yeah I've found that switching VTs during login can sometimes bork things, heh |
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| 18:56.41 | ryukafalz | also dunno if this showed up on your end but your message was truncated |
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| 18:58.03 | rdieter | Anarch: that's a video driver bug, I hit that too awhile back, I can dig up references to the upstream fix(es) if you like |
| 18:59.22 | rdieter | (the i915_hangcheck_elapsed thing) |
| 18:59.33 | ryukafalz | Anarch: FYI you might be able to use links2 in framebuffer mode as a browser, no X server required there |
| 18:59.54 | Anarch | rdieter: You guys are AWESOME. (In #debian, I'm usually ignored.) But <https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/946899> gave me the impression the problem is unsolved (tho I didn't read carefully). |
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| 19:00.52 | Anarch | ryukafalz: The problem is that Safeway requires Javascript. I used to use w3m, when they were happy with text. I have elinks installed but not configured, and wouldn't expect it to work; I'll be grateful if I can get iceweasel or Konqueror to work. |
| 19:01.14 | rdieter | Anarch: oh rats, you're right. the bug I remembered was similar (but different) |
| 19:02.11 | rdieter | Anarch: seems here is where progress is being made, https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54226 |
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| 19:02.47 | ryukafalz | Anarch: links2 has some javascript support, though it seems to be unmaintained and possibly insecure |
| 19:03.19 | Anarch | ryukafalz: Well, the security is an issue; that's why I'll need to run as a different user. |
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| 19:05.45 | Anarch | rdieter: Thanks for the link ... it does report that the kernel is making progress ("3.13.7 greatly mitigates this bug"), but Debian stable is on 3.2.0 now. I'll probably wait for backports rather than trying to build my own kernel. |
| 19:06.04 | ryukafalz | and elinks has better JS support but no framebuffer mode... yeah, maybe better with a graphical browser heh |
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| 19:23.41 | g10h4ck | hi all! |
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| 19:24.54 | g10h4ck | I am developing a feature for kstars |
| 19:25.06 | g10h4ck | i am looking for some direcotries in standard folder |
| 19:25.09 | g10h4ck | i used |
| 19:25.50 | g10h4ck | KStandardDirs ksd; |
| 19:25.50 | g10h4ck | QStringList guidesPaths = ksd.findAllResources("appdata", "skyguides/guides/*/index.html"); |
| 19:26.02 | g10h4ck | but it return an empty list |
| 19:26.29 | g10h4ck | so i tryed without filtering QStringList guidesPaths = ksd.findAllResources("appdata", QString()); |
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| 19:26.56 | g10h4ck | but the list remains empty while i am sure the app have a lot of data |
| 19:28.36 | rdieter | g10h4ck: I suspect kstandarddirs doesn't work with globs |
| 19:29.12 | rdieter | nevermind, findAllResources does |
| 19:29.17 | g10h4ck | globs ? |
| 19:29.30 | rdieter | the '*' there |
| 19:29.33 | g10h4ck | ok |
| 19:29.35 | rdieter | g10h4ck: see http://api.kde.org/4.0-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKStandardDirs.html#ab7e1f14f018ef6e7baa7b43c4e574168 |
| 19:29.42 | rdieter | looks like you need to escape the * |
| 19:29.51 | g10h4ck | but it returns empty also without filter using QString() as parameter |
| 19:31.37 | rdieter | oh, you sure the appdata dir isn't empty ? |
| 19:32.00 | g10h4ck | yeah i am sure |
| 19:32.24 | rdieter | ok, i'm stumped |
| 19:32.42 | g10h4ck | i am sure because this QString qmlpath = KStandardDirs::locate("appdata","skyguides/qml/GuidesListView.qml"); |
| 19:32.55 | g10h4ck | return the right path |
| 19:33.22 | g10h4ck | so appdata contains something |
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| 19:44.27 | gobostone | kde keeps randomly turning my volume back on |
| 19:44.32 | gobostone | it's obnoxious |
| 19:44.36 | gobostone | anyone else had this? |
| 19:45.40 | gobostone | 4.13.2 |
| 19:45.45 | cb400f | whatever sound weirdness you experience after 2008 or so, you first should look to pulseaudio |
| 19:46.03 | Anarch | Is there something I can do to interchange the meanings of buttons 2 & 3 on my mouse? |
| 19:49.54 | Anarch | Never mind, xmodmap had not been run; fixed now. |
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| 20:06.10 | johnny69 | Hello all you groovy Kde people!! I have a bunch of files in a dir' all ending with .pgn Some however are .PGN Too many for me to be renaming by hand. Note, same ext' just difference in case. I need them all to be lower .pgn I tried, 'rename *.PGN *.pgn' but that accomplished nothing. Any of you konsole gurus know what I can rattle off at the prompt to change all of them to lower case? I know, I know....this isn't exac |
| 20:06.11 | johnny69 | question but uhhh, I am running kde?? I didn't know where else to go with this and besides, you Kde Demi-Gods know everything. :) (Kde 4.13.2/Opensuse 13.1) Thank you. |
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| 20:12.26 | gobostone | I figured out the audio question |
| 20:12.46 | gobostone | kde doesn't play well with 'flat volumes' setting if you have the notification volume set too high |
| 20:12.58 | gobostone | a la this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Clients_alter_master_output_volume_.28a.k.a._volume_jumps_to_100.25_after_running_application.29 |
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| 20:13.33 | jdoles | Can I run KDE on a Macbook Retina in all its mega glory? |
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| 20:31.26 | [twisti] | is it possible to change where kate puts its kate-swp files ? |
| 20:31.40 | [twisti] | or maybe turn that off completely ? |
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| 21:03.50 | johnny69 | Hi folks, does anyone know how to change the type of compression that Ark uses? For instance, I believe the standard zip format has 3types, deflate, store and something called Maximum....or something like that. Many many revisions ago there was a way to choose what type you wanted zip to use by default. The max setting allowed for best compression but at a greater time needed obviously. Now, this is no longer possible. The d |
| 21:03.51 | johnny69 | mention it and I cannot find a .conf file for Ark. Any ideas? (Kde 4.13.2/Opensuse 13.1) Thank you. |
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| 21:09.16 | jneto_ | johnny69, No expert here, but I think this has more to do with context menu than to Ark. |
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| 21:10.35 | johnny69 | Whoever just replied to me, could you please say it again? I missed it when the window closed. Thanks |
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| 21:12.31 | jneto_ | johnny69, No expert here, but I think this has more to do with context menu than to Ark itself. |
| 21:13.29 | johnny69 | jneto_: Context menu...you mean right clicking in the file manager and using "compress to:" ...etc ? |
| 21:13.44 | jneto_ | Yes |
| 21:15.55 | johnny69 | jneto_: Well, at one time I was able to start Ark itself, go to options and choose "Max compression" for Zip and several other compression formats. Like a lot of things, when we went to the Kde4-series, that was lost and/or done away with. It's been my experience that you normally don't gain much by choosing Max compression inside of zip, but would have been nice to go with that if I so wanted. As it stands now, I don't t |
| 21:15.55 | johnny69 | possible under any circumstances. :( |
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| 21:21.20 | jneto_ | But you want to change the type of compression or the compression level of a certain type? |
| 21:24.39 | johnny69 | jneto_: That's correct. I believe the default compression level for zip is called, "Deflate". However, there is one step up from that simply referred to as Maximum. Damned if I can figure out how to get Ark to use it. |
| 21:27.20 | luca | On KDE I'd love to put a dark theme, but Firefox looks are awful since the searchboxes (eg youtube) are almost transparent. do you know of a good dark theme for KDE? |
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| 21:35.24 | AndrzejL | Nope |
| 21:35.31 | AndrzejL | I failed for exact same reason |
| 21:35.40 | AndrzejL | Firefox looks bloody aweful |
| 21:35.51 | AndrzejL | black box black font - terrible |
| 21:36.06 | AndrzejL | if you change the font to white - white font white box... Dammit |
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| 21:36.52 | AndrzejL | plus at some stage I have realized one thing - really bright theme is much more professional looking :) |
| 21:37.00 | AndrzejL | so I use aaevaII |
| 21:37.33 | AndrzejL | aavaII |
| 21:37.35 | AndrzejL | :P |
| 21:37.49 | AndrzejL | aava II |
| 21:37.53 | AndrzejL | dammit finally |
| 21:39.31 | luca | nice theme @AndrzejL |
| 21:39.32 | luca | :D |
| 21:39.43 | luca | thanks for letting me know about it |
| 21:39.52 | luca | making me * |
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| 22:24.53 | AndrzejL | :) |
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