| 00:00.17 | tekkbuzz | I want to do it from another machine using ssh. |
| 00:00.25 | thiago | you can't log that in |
| 00:00.44 | tekkbuzz | vnc only works after I log in. |
| 00:00.58 | thiago | sit in front of it and log in |
| 00:01.15 | tekkbuzz | what if I can't? |
| 00:01.24 | thiago | then you do it anyway or give up |
| 00:01.26 | thiago | that's the only way |
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| 00:02.03 | tekkbuzz | I find that answer hard to believe. |
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| 00:16.09 | tekkbuzz | the login gui is kdm |
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| 00:36.32 | iio7 | I have a dual monitor setup. I use systemsettings to set thing up. Every time I login the screens has been switched. It is freaking annoying. I have tried using systemsettings as root, but it still happens. How do I set the screens so the stay? |
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| 00:39.26 | iio7 | Why does KDE forget the setting? Its right there in it's own config file krandrrc |
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| 01:52.59 | rdieter | iio7: if possible, use kscreen instead of krandr |
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| 01:59.54 | iio7 | rdieter, thanks, but I am already using kscreen. |
| 02:00.50 | iio7 | I'll try to fix it with a hack to a script in autostart.. I suspect its a small bug, I had updated my system prior to it started doing that. |
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| 03:27.14 | abhinav2004 | Hi I am not able to mount my disks from dolphin. It says my password is wrong like this http://imgur.com/cKAb58X. I can mount it through terminal though using sudo. I am using KDE 4.12.2. How do I solve this? |
| 03:27.57 | abhinav2004 | and yeah I am using arch linux |
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| 03:35.30 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: You have a messed up Policykit |
| 03:35.55 | AndrzejL | test it by running pkexec date from the terminal |
| 03:36.11 | AndrzejL | it should spit out an actual date |
| 03:36.39 | AndrzejL | [andrzejl@wishmasus ~]$ pkexec date |
| 03:36.40 | AndrzejL | Sun Mar 16 03:36:32 GMT 2014 |
| 03:36.40 | AndrzejL | [andrzejl@wishmasus ~]$ |
| 03:36.56 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: Yup it does......Sun Mar 16 14:36:24 IST 2014 |
| 03:36.59 | AndrzejL | if not its gonna spit out error message |
| 03:37.14 | abhinav2004 | oh yeah...I used sudo sorry... |
| 03:37.23 | AndrzejL | dont use sudo |
| 03:37.26 | AndrzejL | :) |
| 03:37.42 | abhinav2004 | output: Error executing command as another user: Not authorized |
| 03:38.02 | AndrzejL | and now try with your password and not root's? |
| 03:38.25 | abhinav2004 | you mean using sudo? |
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| 03:38.56 | AndrzejL | no I mean the same command but use Your password (same you use to log into the system) and not root's |
| 03:39.01 | Addle | abhinav2004: #kde comin' through for ya, I see. :) |
| 03:39.24 | rick__ | help me |
| 03:39.30 | AndrzejL | Addle: I am a co-arch-user and I have had this issue ;) |
| 03:39.44 | AndrzejL | I mean I didnt have it I have _seen_ it ;) |
| 03:39.49 | rick__ | copying with dolphine looks like breaking filesystem. |
| 03:39.52 | Addle | AndrzejL: Perfect :) |
| 03:40.11 | AndrzejL | Addle: I don't know what the solution is tho :P |
| 03:40.17 | AndrzejL | less perfect? :P |
| 03:40.33 | Addle | AndrzejL: Oh, well, yeah. Still! lol |
| 03:40.35 | AndrzejL | but I know that it narrows down to policykit :D |
| 03:40.42 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: ok I am confused :/ It doesn't even ask me for my password. |
| 03:40.54 | abhinav2004 | where do I put my password? |
| 03:41.02 | Kitzu | rick__, how much memory do you have? |
| 03:41.17 | Kitzu | free -m |
| 03:41.17 | Addle | abhinav2004: It's supposed to (not that this helps). |
| 03:41.24 | rick__ | Kitzu: 4GB+6GB(swap) |
| 03:41.25 | AndrzejL | ok run pkexec date again and give your users password - look for auth window on the window list bar it may be hidden |
| 03:41.33 | Kitzu | huh |
| 03:41.52 | Kitzu | can you explain your problem in more detail? |
| 03:42.00 | AndrzejL | rick__: is the DMA enabled? What does it mean that copying breaks dolphin? |
| 03:42.07 | rick__ | Kitzu: ok, wait a moment.. |
| 03:42.34 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: Nope it rejects my password. |
| 03:42.40 | AndrzejL | indeed |
| 03:43.13 | Kitzu | seems like some problem with policy kit? |
| 03:43.21 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: all I can give you is this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Polkit and a "Good luck" |
| 03:44.17 | rick__ | AndrzejL: dolphine doesn't hang up, but I lost my files on a USB stick |
| 03:44.35 | Kitzu | did you unmount your usb stick before pulling it out? |
| 03:45.21 | rick__ | Kitzu: it is not issue because I see files disappear at the end of copying |
| 03:45.35 | Kitzu | huh |
| 03:45.40 | Kitzu | interesting |
| 03:45.54 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: open terminal - run su to get root give password run systemctl --no-pager | grep kit |
| 03:45.58 | rick__ | and, yesterday, |
| 03:46.12 | AndrzejL | it should give you polkit.service loaded active running Authorization Manager |
| 03:46.26 | abhinav2004 | yup thats the output |
| 03:46.36 | rick__ | I tryed to make a backup of my phone, |
| 03:46.45 | Kitzu | could you copy the terminal output of dolphin while copying a file to a pastebin? |
| 03:47.37 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: http://pastebin.com/q02Zhq1z |
| 03:50.35 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: ok - check the config files for polkit and check if systemctl restart polkit as root fixes the issue. Also check if adding Yourself to storage group helps (reboot after). If not I hope someone can help You coz I don't really know how. I am sure polkit is to blame or one if its deps but I have no idea how to diagnoze it. |
| 03:51.31 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: Ok I will try all of that. One more thing. I can't even work with printers. Its the same issue. |
| 03:52.07 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: also check https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=115610 |
| 03:52.51 | AndrzejL | rick__: sorry mate I have no idea. Guys its 4 am and I need to go to bed :) |
| 03:52.54 | AndrzejL | Nite all |
| 03:53.01 | AndrzejL | is afk |
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| 04:06.43 | Marchin | hi, i've installed kdm, the problem i'm having is that it doesn't detect my wallpapers or logo |
| 04:07.10 | Marchin | it detects the defaults one although |
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| 04:09.36 | abhinav2004 | Addle: you still there?? |
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| 04:11.00 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: was that a tab fail? |
| 04:11.09 | AndrzejL | I am just about to leave |
| 04:11.34 | Addle | abhinav2004: Yep, still here. |
| 04:11.36 | AndrzejL | I mean I leave the irc connected I am just off to bed in a very short while |
| 04:11.38 | abhinav2004 | AndrzeJL: yeah that was a tab fail...lol but i kinda solved my problem |
| 04:11.44 | AndrzejL | LOL |
| 04:11.54 | Addle | haha :) |
| 04:12.07 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: what did you do and how? |
| 04:12.17 | AndrzejL | Addle: lol :D |
| 04:12.26 | abhinav2004 | I created a new group called driveaccess and added myself to it. |
| 04:12.57 | abhinav2004 | then I created a new policy in rules.d allowing all users in driveaccess to mount partitions. |
| 04:13.08 | AndrzejL | and then added the polkit that allows to mount drives by this specific group like it says on arch wiki? |
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| 04:13.14 | AndrzejL | sweet |
| 04:13.43 | abhinav2004 | AndrzeJL yup I took it from the wiki. |
| 04:13.46 | AndrzejL | I am glad you are sorted - I will sleep better tonight :P |
| 04:13.50 | AndrzejL | lol |
| 04:14.07 | AndrzejL | good - wiki is awesome dont forget about it :D |
| 04:14.09 | AndrzejL | nite all |
| 04:14.16 | AndrzejL | is REALLY afk now :P |
| 04:14.18 | Addle | Arch Wiki ftw :) I'll store that little fix in my head for potential use later. |
| 04:14.25 | Addle | Night, AndrzejL |
| 04:14.30 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: good night |
| 04:14.32 | AndrzejL | nite all :D |
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| 04:15.03 | abhinav2004 | Addle: to the arch irc |
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| 04:27.00 | abhinav2004 | Addle: umm I thought you were at #archlinux. |
| 04:29.09 | Addle | abhinav2004: I am, just distracted. :) |
| 04:29.33 | abhinav2004 | lol |
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| 05:18.16 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: I know you are sleeping but just wanted to tell you that I solved it. You need to add yourself to the wheel group. |
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| 05:24.48 | Mystica555 | wonders why it was thought necessary to change the simple settings to a fucking draggable bar to change focus nowadays... |
| 05:25.48 | Mystica555 | I looked through the Window Behavior control and the rest of anything that I thought related in systemsettings for the last 10 minutes trying my ass off to find the focus follows mouse option, which before some point recently was either a radio-button or dropdown box style control. I do not believe this new methodology of displaying is in any way intuitive |
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| 05:34.37 | rick_ | i tryed several times, but the issue does not reproduce... |
| 05:37.20 | rick_ | lost files has reappeared after reboot |
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| 09:32.55 | james0r2 | what is the component that controls mouse and keyboard? i run kwin on xfce but i get some cursor conflicts. |
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| 09:40.11 | Aiena | james0r2 not sure |
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| 10:08.18 | Piotrek | Hello. |
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| 10:21.02 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: Hey r u awake? |
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| 10:36.40 | Roberth1990 | hi, how do I disable tooltips that pops up when I for example move the cursor above an entry in systems settings? |
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| 12:23.39 | sah_ | Can someone help me out with qwenview? This is my first junior job. I want to know how to proceed. I have downloaded the git source code and also have the setup for Qt. What do I do next? |
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| 12:25.47 | sah_ | ^I meant gwenview. |
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| 12:30.13 | scummos | well, what do you want to do? |
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| 12:38.44 | brli | hi, how do I connect to ftpes:// via Dolphin or other kde-native apps? |
| 12:39.20 | scummos | ftpes? |
| 12:40.19 | brli | yes |
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| 12:43.29 | scummos | what's ftpes |
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| 12:45.52 | brli | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FTPS |
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| 12:47.01 | brli | scummos: ^^ the wiki page |
| 12:47.40 | scummos | ah ok |
| 12:47.42 | scummos | probably not supported |
| 12:48.09 | brli | to be honest, I've no idea about such protcol either :/ |
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| 12:49.25 | scummos | use ssh instead? |
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| 12:50.53 | brli | dunnu, will have to ask the admin, but I don't think they provide such |
| 12:51.27 | scummos | ftp is pretty broken and wrapping into SSL only makes it slightly less broken ;) |
| 12:52.41 | brli | imo, an ancient protocol :/ |
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| 12:53.35 | brli | the server do provides WebUI, but, you know, big files delivering over https isn't good practice |
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| 12:55.28 | brli | filezilla can deal with it, butit is gtk... |
| 12:55.48 | sah_ | @scumos: Does the Gwenview project not open up with Qt creator? If yes how? I don't find any .pro files in the package I downloaded from git. |
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| 12:56.07 | fairc | when I left click and drag in an empty area in systemsettings, I move the window |
| 12:56.10 | sah_ | PS: I am new to kde and on my first junior job. |
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| 12:56.14 | fairc | how can I deactivate this? |
| 12:56.31 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: yes I am awakened now :P |
| 12:56.41 | scummos | sah_: I'm not a qtcreator person but I'd expect you can import it |
| 12:56.48 | scummos | sah_: .pro files are for qmake, and KDE is not built with qmake |
| 12:57.20 | AndrzejL | abhinav2004: seen the wheel group tip - good one - but thats the beginner's guide step on arch wiki? The user creating step. |
| 12:57.27 | scummos | fairc: I think it's an option in the oxygen style config dialog |
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| 12:58.45 | sah_ | @scummos: So how do I go about fixing a bug? Do I look for it manually in all the (targetted)files present? Is there a better way out? |
| 12:59.19 | scummos | sah_: depends on the bug. |
| 12:59.23 | scummos | if it's a crash, look at the backtrace |
| 12:59.53 | scummos | the last top in there which is inside your application's code is usually a good place to start looking |
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| 13:00.19 | fairc | scummos: In the sytle settings? hmm, kind of doubt htat, but I will take a look |
| 13:00.41 | scummos | fairc: you can doubt it but it's there ;) |
| 13:01.05 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: yeah...That was my mistake. I forgot to add the extra users to wheel which caused this problem. |
| 13:01.15 | sah_ | @scummos: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331011 This is what I want to do. |
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| 13:02.26 | AndrzejL | :) |
| 13:03.20 | abhinav2004 | AndrzejL: can I chat with you in private? Just wanted to ask something. |
| 13:03.47 | AndrzejL | I am 6 foot 6 heterosexual and I am wearing size 13 shoes :D |
| 13:03.52 | AndrzejL | LOL |
| 13:04.03 | abhinav2004 | Lol not in that sense. |
| 13:04.07 | AndrzejL | haha |
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| 13:04.11 | AndrzejL | yeah ok PM me |
| 13:04.23 | scummos | sah_: ok, then go ahead |
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| 13:05.37 | fairc | Configure Oxygen -> "Drag Window from titlebar only" |
| 13:05.50 | fairc | Ok, its there and works. Thanks! |
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| 13:12.00 | dav1d | I installed a theme once, but I dont know where I stored the .zip, where does KDE save installed themes? |
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| 13:21.06 | dav1d | ah I found it |
| 13:21.12 | dav1d | ~/.kde4/share/apps/desktoptheme |
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| 13:44.08 | xxavi | hi |
| 13:44.11 | xxavi | when I refresh a web page, I get a window with "rekonq does not know how to handle this protocol: about"; why ? |
| 13:44.20 | High_Priest | guys, how do I go with changing default sound devices with Phonon? I'm on slack 14.1 and kde 4.10.5 and I have 2 sound devices - one is usb headphones (used when I'm the only one using the computer) - and sound device on my mobo - I have 2.1 system connected here and I use this when I want someone else to hear something (e.g. movies etc.) But it seems that I cannot switch when I want. Especially there's |
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| 13:52.14 | zoldyck | I heard that KDM is no longer developed and will be dropped in the next major release of KDE. Is it the next after KDE 4? |
| 13:52.49 | CaveJohnson | Hello, KDE doesn't not seem to be effected by the window manager setting in system settings. |
| 13:52.58 | CaveJohnson | It still attempts to use Xmonad, when I selected i3. |
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| 13:58.54 | fairc | zoldyck: yes, with KF5 / Plasma 2, KDM will (is) not be around anymore |
| 13:59.28 | zoldyck | fairc: and when is the estimated release time for that? |
| 14:00.18 | scummos | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma/2014.6_Release_Schedule |
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| 14:24.59 | High_Priest | brb, rebooting |
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| 14:36.22 | james0r2 | kde is really cool but it still bothers me that i need to download a widget to remove this cashew on the desktop. seems very counter kde's mission of being configurable |
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| 14:37.44 | scummos | james0r2: well the widget is required to perform some actions, that's why you cannot remove it |
| 14:38.19 | scummos | that being said, I think you should be able to remove it, yes :D |
| 14:38.23 | james0r2 | scummos, these actions can't be called from the settings panel? |
| 14:38.45 | scummos | can you add activities from there? |
| 14:39.08 | james0r2 | it's just silly and apple like. when i saw the annoying cashew on my wife's iphone i said "yeah that sounds like apple" but seeing it on KDE bothers me |
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| 14:39.44 | james0r2 | not sure. still don't understand the concept of activities either. or why i would need them. but to each their own. either way if i don't need it i don't want it looking at me on my desktop |
| 14:39.50 | james0r2 | that said i love kde |
| 14:39.51 | james0r2 | haha |
| 14:40.12 | scummos | you can put it below your panel ;D |
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| 14:40.35 | james0r2 | i just use the stealth cashew widget. just bothers me on principle. |
| 14:40.46 | james0r2 | seems so out of place to do such a thing in KDE |
| 14:41.19 | james0r2 | i can configure everything i want except this annoying thing that doesn't exist on any other DE |
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| 14:41.47 | scummos | i cannot do anything about it except explain the decision why it can't be removed |
| 14:42.47 | scummos | I'm sure there's a 100-page bug report about it, you can vent your anger there if you like :D |
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| 14:43.21 | james0r2 | i'm not much of a complainer but i see no valid justification for it. i also need to edit my /etc/fstab sometimes but i don't need it on my desktop |
| 14:43.41 | scummos | the justification is that you can do some things only from there |
| 14:43.42 | james0r2 | i think i have already heh |
| 14:43.53 | scummos | and if you could hide it then people would hide it and then be confused where they can do $thing |
| 14:44.17 | scummos | but as I said I personally disagree with that; this concept isn't enforced in other places either |
| 14:44.53 | scummos | e.g. you can hide menu bars, which are far more important |
| 14:44.53 | james0r2 | i think users that would navigate to a right-click > Please Hide the Cashew option would be cognizant of what they were doing. |
| 14:45.19 | scummos | nah, you overestimate the crowd of users |
| 14:45.24 | james0r2 | you can also delete the entire default panel that takes a while to reconstruct with a couple clicks |
| 14:45.35 | chris_hd | Hi, is a skilled c++ developer online? |
| 14:45.35 | scummos | given enough people you'll always have some which enable the option without remembering it and then they'll be confused |
| 14:45.47 | scummos | chris_hd: depends on your definition of "skilled" |
| 14:45.50 | scummos | just state your problem |
| 14:46.04 | scummos | james0r2: "add panel -> default panel"? ;) |
| 14:46.18 | scummos | james0r2: but yes, I fully agree -- I have seen lots of people delete their panel and be utterly confused |
| 14:46.35 | james0r2 | scummos, ahh couldn't find that before. wish i talked to you then |
| 14:46.36 | scummos | while I have seen close to nobody use the cashew |
| 14:46.53 | chris_hd | I have a program which can make use of an class A and B which are loaded as plugin. |
| 14:47.06 | scummos | james0r2: see? such an obvious placed option, and still most people don't find it |
| 14:47.16 | scummos | james0r2: which is not to blame the people |
| 14:47.18 | scummos | it's just difficult |
| 14:47.35 | james0r2 | scummos, yeah i reject all justifications for it and object to its existence. |
| 14:47.58 | james0r2 | yeah but i accept my folly |
| 14:48.10 | chris_hd | But all classes have totaly different interfaces. How can I compile with both classes but without enforcing the existance of the shared library (during compile time and runtime) |
| 14:48.15 | james0r2 | and my punishment haha |
| 14:48.15 | scummos | james0r2: well but above you declared you don't understand the concept of the feature, and thus I'm not sure your opinion is the one which counts ;) |
| 14:48.49 | james0r2 | scummos, i could fill a lake with things i don't understand but i don't need them on my desktop |
| 14:49.06 | james0r2 | although that might be an interesting and educational desktop |
| 14:49.08 | scummos | which is fine |
| 14:49.38 | scummos | but you shouldn't object the existence of things you're not interested in learning how they work ;) |
| 14:50.01 | james0r2 | the justification that because some people use it it shouldn't be removed it ridiculous |
| 14:50.17 | scummos | huh? |
| 14:50.53 | scummos | well, let's invert that: what other justification for the existence of a feature is there, except that people use it? |
| 14:50.53 | james0r2 | i'm talking about the placement not the existence. sorry i just said existence before for effect. |
| 14:51.14 | scummos | ah ok |
| 14:51.43 | scummos | well as said, I'm not debating that, I was just explaining why it's there. you can complain to the plasma devs about it, but I doubt it will change. |
| 14:51.50 | scummos | it has been discussed hundreds of times |
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| 14:53.02 | james0r2 | fair enough. KDE is a great desktop and I really enjoy everything else about it. it's only because of the rest of it that i have such high expectations. |
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| 14:53.29 | james0r2 | if i was using Unity I would keep my mouth shut |
| 14:53.35 | scummos | :D |
| 14:54.56 | james0r2 | that said i'm just coming back after 6 months or so trying out xfce with kwin and i'm glad to be back on KDE as a whole package. |
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| 14:56.50 | sah_ | #include<K..> not recognized in KDevelop. |
| 14:57.01 | sah_ | Unable to download kdelibs |
| 14:57.34 | sah_ | E: Unable to locate package kdelibs |
| 14:58.16 | scummos | what are you doing |
| 14:58.36 | scummos | the package probably has a slightly different name |
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| 15:02.58 | sah_ | I downloaded KDevelop but the header files of KDE and Qt are not found. |
| 15:03.19 | sah_ | Even though Qt is installed |
| 15:03.24 | scummos | sah_: you're probably missing a -dev package |
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| 15:06.30 | ovidiu-florin | how can I see the time of a notification? |
| 15:07.47 | sah_ | Earlier today I ran these commands : http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Distributions/Debian |
| 15:08.04 | sah_ | but ended up destroying the OS |
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| 15:08.17 | sah_ | and had to reinstall |
| 15:08.26 | sah_ | I am using linux mint kde 16 bdw |
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| 15:10.57 | scummos | sah_: what application are you trying to build, gwenview? try apt-get build-dep gwenview |
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| 15:12.24 | sah_ | E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 15:12.31 | Donald_ET3 | I want an OS which runs KDE, but there are so many! Any suggestions? |
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| 15:14.01 | scummos | sah_: gotta do that then ;) |
| 15:14.21 | scummos | Donald_ET3: they're all pretty similar nowadays |
| 15:14.38 | chris_hd | Donald_ET3: that problem is close to religion ;) |
| 15:14.54 | Donald_ET3 | Oh. |
| 15:15.37 | chris_hd | Donald_ET3: I use openSuse, it is easy to install and has good KDE support |
| 15:15.53 | scummos | just pick one which looks friendly |
| 15:16.06 | chris_hd | openSuse looks friendly :) |
| 15:16.11 | Donald_ET3 | Okay. |
| 15:16.28 | Donald_ET3 | I have read that OpenSUSE contributes significantly to KDE. |
| 15:16.55 | scummos | they are one of the sponsors of the KDE e.V. |
| 15:17.35 | chris_hd | Donald_ET3: are you new to linux? |
| 15:20.14 | Donald_ET3 | A few years ago, after a huge amount of distro testing, I migrated from Windows to Trisquel GNU/Linux. Now I decided I want a good KDE desktop, and I have started another round of testing every distro in existence, which is not fun, yet I want to do it. I do not understand why I am so meticulous. |
| 15:21.03 | chris_hd | then you may want to have a look at kubuntu as well |
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| 15:22.07 | Donald_ET3 | I suppose every KDE implementation has its quirks. None of them work exactly the same. |
| 15:22.17 | scummos | it's not implementations of KDE |
| 15:22.22 | scummos | it's just different builds |
| 15:22.29 | scummos | and they pretty much work the same in almost all distros |
| 15:22.36 | scummos | ... but yeah, sometimes they have quirks |
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| 15:22.45 | chris_hd | but as scummos said: ther are all pretty similar |
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| 15:22.57 | scummos | they mostly differ only in their default configuration |
| 15:23.04 | scummos | and the bugs the packagers added while packaging :D |
| 15:23.58 | Donald_ET3 | With Kubuntu, I noticed that right-clicking on a program does not provide the option to place a shortcut on the desktop, which is different from both Fedora and OpenSUSE. |
| 15:24.10 | Donald_ET3 | Is that a bug? |
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| 15:25.47 | scummos | possible |
| 15:26.23 | Donald_ET3 | Actually, I suppose it is more common to not have that feature, so maybe it was added by Fedora and OpenSUSE. |
| 15:26.36 | Donald_ET3 | Thank you for your advice! |
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| 18:00.18 | kartapux | After login the desktop appears totally white. There are only a few big red squares with white cross on it which, i believe, indicates that widgets could not load. My pannels disapeard, and the alt+f2 menu doesn't work. So it's absolutely not usable. |
| 18:01.00 | kartapux | Could you please help me? |
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| 18:06.37 | karthikp | kartapux: Can you launch krunner (alt+f2)? |
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| 18:08.09 | kartapux | karthikp no i can't :-( |
| 18:09.41 | karthikp | Ctrl+Alt+F1 and get to a tty and run an update again? |
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| 18:18.24 | kartapux | I did but it was unsuccessful |
| 18:18.43 | karthikp | Unsuccessful how? |
| 18:18.47 | karthikp | No network access? |
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| 18:19.39 | kartapux | No, pacman did upgrade packages, but i still have the problem |
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| 18:26.11 | karthikp | Hmm, does the login manager come up? |
| 18:26.37 | karthikp | (I assume it does and that's how you can log in.) |
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| 18:46.54 | rdieter | kartapux: may be worth trying to login to kde plasma (failsafe) session, in case this is a desktop effects/driver problem (the description of a totally white screen implies in may be) |
| 18:47.24 | rdieter | else, may be time to contact your distro support |
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| 18:48.40 | kartapux | Yes, the login manager shows up. It is set up for automatic login thaugh. |
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| 18:50.08 | kartapux | I don't like doing rhis but I have a lecture to give tomorrow morning so i'm trying to restitute a backup of my system. Hopefully it'll work |
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| 18:52.05 | kartapux | I mean restore ;-) |
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| 19:01.34 | scummos | kartapux: did you update everything, with the -u flag? |
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| 19:09.42 | kartapux | Scummos yes :-( |
| 19:09.49 | scummos | mmh |
| 19:09.53 | scummos | any file conflicts or so? |
| 19:10.01 | scummos | anything odd in the upgrade log? |
| 19:10.13 | scummos | can also try with a new user account |
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| 19:23.29 | Guest10062 | How do I create a custom application launcher on the Desktop? |
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| 19:24.11 | Guest10062 | kaffeine -f Pictures/washington\ the\ movie\ 7-2013/videos/* <To do that? |
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| 19:26.47 | Guest10062 | I just simplified the path: kaffeine -f Pictures/Washington-Trip-Videos/* |
| 19:27.21 | Guest10062 | (Tryint to customize my neighbor's computer to make it a bit more user friendly.) |
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| 19:30.44 | cek | We all agree: kmail 4.11 is a big pile of untested crap. Last week after upgrade I'm getting all kind of buggy behaviour - mail disappearing, filtering not working, UI slow & buggy. Now kmail can't start with "Failed to fetch the resource collection.". I have no idea what the hell that means. I didn't kill kmail process, neither killed any akonadi & mysqld |
| 19:30.44 | cek | & kresource procs. |
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| 19:43.01 | cek | ProcessControl: Application /usr/bin/akonadi_imap_resource stopped unexpectedly ( "Process crashed" ) |
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| 19:49.04 | scummos | cek: 4.13 works great for me |
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| 19:54.02 | cek | : "Failed to fetch the resource collection." |
| 19:54.06 | cek | all kind of errors |
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| 19:55.02 | karthikp | cek: This was on the planet a few days ago: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2014/03/making-friends-with-kontact-again.html |
| 19:55.37 | karthikp | The gist of it is that wiping akonadi configs seems to be a good solution, particularly if you have configs hanging around from older versions. |
| 19:56.31 | karthikp | FWIW, I had a rough transition to kmail2, but since the initial akonadi issues were sorted out, it's been smooth sailing. |
| 19:57.10 | cek | i removed .local/share/akonadi/db_data//akonadi/ already, that made it even worse. it won't start now |
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| 20:02.19 | karthikp | Akonadi stores its data all over the place. There's bits in .local/share, in .config, and some application-specific bits in .kde(4)/share/config. |
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| 20:03.00 | karthikp | I hope one of the things they do in KF5 is ditch the .kde(4) folder altogether and save everything in .local/ and .config... |
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| 20:04.47 | tosky | karthikp: that's the plan - just keep in mind that .local and .config didn't exist in the past |
| 20:04.52 | cek | well i guess the problem is mysqld that's crashing on some innodb transaction |
| 20:05.15 | tosky | karthikp: also, I think akonadi uses .config/.local; it's kmail which uses .kde4/... |
| 20:05.26 | cek | and remember - i didn't do antyhing bad, didn't kill the process, didn't mess up with debuggers and had no fs corruption |
| 20:05.30 | tosky | (mostly) |
| 20:05.35 | karthikp | Yes, that's right. |
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| 20:06.34 | karthikp | It's actually incredible that deciding where to store configs and app data wasn't the first thing freedesktop standardized... |
| 20:07.19 | karthikp | Then again, one would think even before that, the distros would have standardized a package format for all of linux... |
| 20:07.59 | tosky | karthikp: freedesktop is a collection of proposal; if no one came out, well |
| 20:09.18 | cek | ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'akonadi.collectionattributetable' doesn't exist |
| 20:09.24 | cek | how do I recreate all these tables? |
| 20:09.33 | cek | where are the sql statements? |
| 20:09.52 | tosky | cek: akonadi should recreate the configuration if it is totally empty- but first stop it |
| 20:10.14 | tosky | cek: about that error, it seems to popup again, have you seen this? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259355#c10 |
| 20:10.19 | cek | tosky: stopped it. I don't think it will recreate the tables -- somehow it throws hell lot of errors. |
| 20:10.53 | tosky | cek: well, if you start from a clean configuration it creates all the tables, so it should be able to do it |
| 20:11.11 | cek | tosky: i'm afraid to do that -- have a lot of imap & filters and all that configured |
| 20:11.51 | cek | ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'akonadi.collectionattributetable' doesn't exist |
| 20:11.51 | cek | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:13.01 | tosky | cek: Akonadi is only a cache, so its configuration could be removed; I *think* filters should be in kmail configuration |
| 20:13.24 | cek | removed akonadi DB altogether. Getting: The error was: Failed to fetch the resource collection. |
| 20:13.41 | cek | akonadi_maildispatcher_agent(7713)/libakonadi Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJobPrivate::resourceScanResult: Failed to request resource "akonadi_mixedmaildir_resource_1" : "Failed to fetch the resource collection." |
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| 20:13.48 | tosky | cek: again, have you seen the comment on the bug I posted? |
| 20:13.51 | tosky | comment 10 |
| 20:14.00 | tosky | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=259355#c10 |
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| 20:18.11 | cek | "Selected folder is a valid Maildir" . That's what I ahve and that folder is maildir. |
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| 20:20.04 | tosky | then I'm out of suggestions |
| 20:20.19 | tosky | I only found this, but it does not solve the issue: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=317293 |
| 20:20.28 | cek | well, it worked actually. I'm able to start kamil now. |
| 20:20.45 | cek | despite I didn't chose new path, I left it at previous onw |
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| 20:26.35 | cek | filters are now messed up.. oh well. Anyways, thanks for bringing it back to life. I'll try 4.13 once it's ready/stable. |
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| 20:46.29 | orzel | hello. mail sent to my @kde.org fail with a timeout when kde 'postbox' tries to connect to my mailserver. I've checked that postbox.kde.org is not blacklisted on my server, and it is not. I'd like to know if it is possible that mail from kde comes from another ip/server...? do you know who could answer this ? |
| 20:47.02 | scummos | orzel: try #kde-sysadmin |
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| 20:47.59 | orzel | scummos: looks good, thanks |
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| 20:56.54 | nolaiz | hi |
| 20:57.21 | nolaiz | I'm using gentoo, and some time ago I upgraded my system to kde 4.12.2 |
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| 21:18.14 | Frogbarf | I am having any issue where the Facebook Akonadi resource hangs while syncing events for a specfic facebook user under a specfic linux account. I delted the akonadi directories under ~./local and ~./config but the problem persists |
| 21:18.59 | Frogbarf | It hangs at 0% and never gets to the birthdays |
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| 21:19.11 | Frogbarf | This is under kde 12 |
| 21:19.15 | Frogbarf | 4.12 |
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