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| 00:37.46 | detaos | hi everybody |
| 00:37.57 | detaos | is there an IRC channel for KDE on OS X? |
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| 00:49.46 | Sho_ | detaos: #fink used to have a high concentration of KDE-on-OSX people |
| 00:49.51 | Sho_ | detaos: but I think Fink is pretty dead now |
| 00:49.56 | Sho_ | not sure where the people moved on to |
| 00:50.13 | detaos | ok, thanks Sho_ |
| 00:50.41 | Sho_ | RangerRick (Benjamin Reed) and jack used to be very active people, maybe if you can track them down |
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| 00:59.51 | eodchop | Recent immigrant who has fled the fascist empire of Gnome. Can anyone recommend a good pdf reader/viewer for kde? trying to avoid pulling in gtk based apps. |
| 01:00.40 | derdon | eodchop: Okular |
| 01:01.10 | eodchop | derdon: thank you. I will check it out. |
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| 01:04.47 | oldlaptop | eodchop: okular integrates into konqueror as well |
| 01:04.57 | oldlaptop | or whatever kpart okular wraps anyway |
| 01:06.29 | eodchop | Nice.So I can use it to open a pdf inside of a web browser? |
| 01:06.58 | oldlaptop | Inside of konqueror |
| 01:07.18 | oldlaptop | which acts as browser or the best file manager known to man :) |
| 01:07.28 | oldlaptop | it's a better filemanager than it is a browser though |
| 01:08.29 | eodchop | I will try it also. Using Dolphin now. |
| 01:08.35 | oldlaptop | no reason someone couldn't write a different browser that used okular the same way konqueror does |
| 01:08.42 | eodchop | It was the default out of the box in my kde install. |
| 01:08.48 | oldlaptop | Dolphin is nowadays |
| 01:09.04 | oldlaptop | vile heresy as dolphin is >:) |
| 01:09.36 | oldlaptop | (in reality different people have different preferences, etc etc) |
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| 01:13.01 | eodchop | I like dolphin. Its been fine so far. |
| 01:13.16 | oldlaptop | it's not that dolphin is bad, it's that konqueror is better :) |
| 01:13.34 | oldlaptop | in the opinion of this particular idiot on the internet :) |
| 01:14.06 | eodchop | Seems better than nautilus |
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| 01:19.32 | eodchop | Anyone tried 4.12 yet? I am running Gentoo. Trying to decide if i should install or wait. |
| 01:23.03 | eden | eodchop: im running 4.12 on arch its running fine :) |
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| 01:29.30 | eodchop | Eden: I will give it a shot. Might actually build an arch box. Havent ran it in a while. Thank you for the idea. |
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| 01:36.25 | Basstard` | Ugh, KTorrent is so slow to add new downloads. |
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| 01:49.15 | joh6nn | oldlaptop: i used to really like konqueror as a filemanager, but accepted the change to dolphin when it happened |
| 01:49.24 | joh6nn | what would you say makes konqueror better than dolphin? |
| 01:49.38 | oldlaptop | it does more |
| 01:49.41 | joh6nn | it's been long enough since i used konqueror regularly that i can't really comapre them at this stage |
| 01:49.43 | joh6nn | like? |
| 01:49.53 | oldlaptop | think 'emacs' |
| 01:50.00 | oldlaptop | not *that* extreme :P |
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| 01:50.26 | oldlaptop | but still that kind of thing |
| 01:51.31 | Basstard` | What about Krusader? |
| 01:51.54 | joh6nn | i've never used emacs, sadly, so that's not helpful for me :/ |
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| 01:52.46 | oldlaptop | emacs does a lot of thing |
| 01:52.47 | oldlaptop | things |
| 01:53.07 | oldlaptop | to understate a tad :) |
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| 01:53.19 | joh6nn | sure, i know that |
| 01:53.49 | joh6nn | but can you name a thing that konqueror does that dolphin doesn't, or a way that konqueror does something better than dolphin? |
| 01:54.07 | joh6nn | i'm asking in seriousness, i used to really like konqueror |
| 01:54.20 | oldlaptop | all the embedded viewers |
| 01:54.32 | Basstard` | Krusader! |
| 01:54.37 | oldlaptop | never used krusader |
| 01:54.59 | joh6nn | Basstard`: i've never used it, but i've also never been a fan of twin panel layouts |
| 01:55.15 | joh6nn | i made due on windows 3.1, but it's not my preferred setup |
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| 01:57.59 | joh6nn | oldlaptop: just installed konqueror to take a look, and it would seem that konqueror and dolphin are wrapping the same kpart for file management |
| 01:58.31 | joh6nn | konqueror is using all the same preferences for file management that dolphin is, and even refers to itself as "dolphin" in a few spots |
| 01:58.49 | oldlaptop | it doesn't do that to me :/ |
| 01:59.20 | joh6nn | i'm kubuntu 13.10, kde 4.11.3 |
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| 02:04.49 | joh6nn | i see what you meant about the builtin viewers though, that's kinda handy |
| 02:06.07 | joh6nn | other than that though, and a few minor UI differences, i don't see much that differentiates it in file browser mode |
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| 02:33.46 | brli | do any one use pastbin plasmoid? |
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| 02:49.43 | valorie | brli: I do |
| 02:50.03 | valorie | you just select and drag stuff to it |
| 02:50.42 | brli | valorie: my question isn't on the usage though, it can't add any service |
| 02:51.09 | valorie | ah |
| 02:51.49 | valorie | alt+DS doesn't bring up the settings? |
| 02:51.58 | valorie | or it does, but you can't add? |
| 02:52.26 | brli | I can't add, via the 'Add new provider' button and window |
| 02:54.30 | valorie | I just added privatepaste to test: http://privatepaste.com/c36e83e1b8 |
| 02:54.54 | valorie | I did have to go select it and use the apply button before it worked |
| 02:56.38 | brli | well, my end is install fine but didn't appear at the select section |
| 02:59.37 | valorie | you have to go back into the settings and select the newly downloaded provider, then click apply |
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| 03:02.48 | brli | I go back to the settings but the available pastebin server remains the same |
| 03:04.45 | valorie | I guess you should file a bug, then |
| 03:05.29 | brli | valorie: btw, what kde are you on? mine 4.12 |
| 03:05.30 | valorie | bugs.kde.org against plasma pastebin plasmoid |
| 03:05.39 | valorie | same, in kubuntu |
| 03:06.27 | valorie | afk.... |
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| 08:01.52 | markand | hello there |
| 08:02.10 | markand | even if I quit KMix it still starts at startup and it is annoying |
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| 08:05.34 | emilsedgh | markand: File->Settings->Configure KMix->Start->Autostart |
| 08:06.39 | markand | In what window do you expect File menu ? |
| 08:06.56 | markand | oh nvm |
| 08:07.11 | markand | thanks emilsedgh :) |
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| 08:07.38 | markand | disabled KMixd in service manager and hoped it could disable kmix also |
| 08:07.39 | emilsedgh | np |
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| 10:04.58 | joj | Hi. Using firefox with the firefox-kde-support patch, I'm still getting the GTK file chooser. I'm running DWM and no kdeinit from my ~/.xsession, so I believe this is due to missing environment variables. How can I set up the environment for ff to pretend I'm running KDE? |
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| 10:47.19 | ntz | hello |
| 10:48.16 | ntz | perhaps I'm missing something important - i have new suse + kde 4.11.3 - but how can I add knotes to dashboard ? |
| 10:48.43 | ntz | i always have knotes on dashboard but i can't find out right now in this kde instance howto do it |
| 10:48.50 | ntz | s/have/had/ |
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| 12:43.09 | cousin_luigi | Can I set brightness via a hotkey or qdbus? |
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| 12:47.45 | thiago | cousin_luigi: yes. You can use the brightness-up and brightness-down keys |
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| 12:49.09 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: xbacklight is a good command-line tool too |
| 12:49.11 | cousin_luigi | thiago: what would those be, by default? |
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| 12:49.48 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: sounds like your keyboard doesnt have brightness keys (they're usually clearly labeled) |
| 12:50.33 | cousin_luigi | rdieter: It's not a laptop. |
| 12:50.49 | rdieter | doesnt matter |
| 12:51.08 | rdieter | (though it's true non-laptop keyboards often do not have these keys) |
| 12:52.10 | rdieter | it's usually relavent mostly for laptops, since screen brightness is a big consumer of battery (something you usually don't worry about much with desktops) |
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| 12:54.29 | thiago | cousin_luigi: assign some keys to the brightness keycodes |
| 12:54.55 | thiago | how are you changing the brightness now if it's not a laptop? |
| 12:55.43 | cousin_luigi | thiago: actually I only need this for the video player and mplayer had its own shortcut |
| 12:55.44 | Kelsar | cousin_luigi: so it is gamma not brightness |
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| 12:55.46 | cousin_luigi | vlc doesn't, so I have to change the brightness for everything |
| 12:55.50 | cousin_luigi | Kelsar: is it? |
| 12:56.00 | Kelsar | yes, should be |
| 12:56.13 | Kelsar | mplayer does not dimm your display |
| 12:56.14 | cousin_luigi | thiago: is it in kwin? |
| 12:56.36 | cousin_luigi | Kelsar: it calls it brightness, but whatever it is I just want to be able to see properly when the scene is too dark. |
| 12:58.01 | cousin_luigi | thiago: I can't find brightness nor gamma among the global shortcuts. What's the best command-line tool to use for this? I already run xbindkeys, so it's no problem. |
| 12:58.56 | rdieter | cousin_luigi: systemsettings->shortcuts&gestures->global...->kde component: KDE Daemon , has entries for brightness up/down, where the key assignment can be changed |
| 12:59.08 | thiago | cousin_luigi: no, it's in the hardware |
| 12:59.20 | thiago | cousin_luigi: does your monitor support changing the brightness via software? |
| 12:59.27 | cousin_luigi | thiago: not that I know of |
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| 12:59.46 | thiago | cousin_luigi: then you can't change the brightness via software |
| 13:00.51 | cousin_luigi | thiago: How can I find out whether its usb ports only work as hub? |
| 13:01.17 | thiago | cousin_luigi: I don't know. |
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| 13:03.16 | cousin_luigi | I'll rephrase my original question: what's the cleanest way to change the gamma on kde? |
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| 13:03.35 | thiago | Alt+F2, type "gamma" |
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| 13:04.44 | cousin_luigi | would that be an approximation of what mplayer or vlc do when they change "brightness"? |
| 13:04.51 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, do you have a nvidia card? nvidia-util from propietary binaries allow that and much more |
| 13:05.04 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: not from command-line it would seem |
| 13:05.25 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, certain version is bugged and won't work correctly, latest version works though |
| 13:06.37 | ezra-s | I had the same issue at home, had to adjust gamma and brightness, nvidia-settings would not work correctly, downloaded latest drivers and isntalled them, works great now |
| 13:07.02 | Axtroz_ | cousin_luigi, that would change settings for EVERYTHING, not just the video, which is what mplayer does. VLC can change gamma/brightness but there's no hotkey for that. If you're used with mplayer, you can install SMplayer GUI for it and just use what you're comfortable with. The VLC way is: Tools->Preferences->Click on show all settings (radio button, bottom left)->video->filters->image adjust. |
| 13:07.58 | ezra-s | usually if you see videos too bright your desktop should be too bright too |
| 13:08.10 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: the latest nvidia drivers are unusable on my system |
| 13:08.30 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, ohh, sorry about that |
| 13:08.54 | cousin_luigi | Axtroz_: vdpau doesn't work properly with mplayer and nvidia 304 (which I'm forced to use atm) |
| 13:09.14 | cousin_luigi | presumably built against a version of libvdpau that's too new |
| 13:09.31 | Axtroz_ | "doesn't work properly" meaning? |
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| 13:09.37 | cousin_luigi | Axtroz_: It crashes, hard. |
| 13:09.44 | cousin_luigi | I have to kill it from a console. |
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| 13:10.22 | Axtroz_ | Downgrade mplayer? |
| 13:11.08 | cousin_luigi | Axtroz_: it's a possibility, haven't tested it yet |
| 13:11.09 | cousin_luigi | but I'd rather not make a mess of my system if I can avoid it. |
| 13:11.39 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: any idea how to set the brightness with nvidia-settings from the command line? |
| 13:11.39 | ezra-s | I thought vdpau was a lib for nvidia driver usage, not "video player" related |
| 13:12.03 | Axtroz_ | vdpau is hardware video decoding afaik |
| 13:12.04 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, I'd share my settings but I'm not at home |
| 13:12.36 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: it's an api that exposes some functions, among which h264 hardware decoding |
| 13:12.36 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, basically I set it through gui it saves a file, and made a script which loads it when I log in to kde |
| 13:12.48 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: I need to be able to change it on the fly. |
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| 13:12.59 | Axtroz_ | ezra-s, what cousin_luigi wants is to change gamma/brightness when he's watching a dark video |
| 13:13.02 | cousin_luigi | I'd need to create dozens of settings. |
| 13:13.10 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, sorry I don't know from memory but nvidia-settings --help should give some info |
| 13:13.11 | cousin_luigi | config files, I mean, one for each step |
| 13:13.16 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: it doesn't |
| 13:13.31 | ezra-s | Axtroz_, his monitor contrast sucks? :P |
| 13:14.56 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, check this , this helped me -> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1158123 |
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| 13:15.49 | Axtroz_ | ezra-s, asking the wrong person here. :) cousin_luigi, if I were you I'd just recompile mplayer and be done with it. You're trying to find a workaround for a different problem; your best bet is to go with a working mplayer. |
| 13:16.25 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, this helped too -> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=170118 |
| 13:16.35 | ezra-s | for the brightness issue |
| 13:16.44 | ezra-s | vdpau I never had issues |
| 13:16.44 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: Uhm, interesting idea. Perhaps I could alter the configuration file and reload it with nvidia-setting. That would presuppose keeping a counter in a script, somewhere. |
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| 13:16.56 | cousin_luigi | Axtroz_: maybe:) |
| 13:17.04 | cousin_luigi | Axtroz_: I'll see if I can find an older one. |
| 13:17.17 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, don't get frustrated with the settings on that page, some things are different, but you get a starting point |
| 13:18.24 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: I understand the general idea, I'll have to find a way to parse that config file |
| 13:18.43 | cousin_luigi | one of the two solutions should work, thanks |
| 13:19.00 | ezra-s | good luck! |
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| 13:20.04 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 13:21.14 | ezra-s | hello BluesKaj |
| 13:21.35 | BluesKaj | hey ezra-s |
| 13:22.53 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, what's up |
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| 13:23.59 | BluesKaj | ezra-s, not much , just set up a vpn |
| 13:24.33 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, lucky you, I'm just floating around, not much work now |
| 13:24.36 | lineinthesand | I tried to start kmail (kde 4.12) but it seems I cannot start akonadi: Error: akonadi_control was started but didn't register at D-Bus session bus. How can I fix this? |
| 13:26.42 | BluesKaj | ezra-s, what's your field ? |
| 13:26.57 | BluesKaj | lineinthesand, did you set up akondia with mysql yet |
| 13:27.13 | BluesKaj | err akonadi |
| 13:27.16 | lineinthesand | BluesKaj, not to my knowledge |
| 13:27.25 | lineinthesand | How would I do that? |
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| 13:27.30 | BluesKaj | type af |
| 13:27.49 | BluesKaj | ak rather in the kmenu search |
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| 13:29.00 | weedmic | I'm trying to connect from my computer "qm" to "helpticket" via krdc. I have setup helpticket using krfb. When I am at qm, I can ping to helpticket. When I try to connect using krdc, I get "host not found". Ideas? |
| 13:29.34 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, where I work they would say I'm IT specialist, but I admin weblogic servers, apache httpd servers, oracle ldap, not much more |
| 13:29.48 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, and you? |
| 13:30.38 | bitlord | is it possible to set System tray "icons/applications" visibility to always visible by default, or disable hiding things (but not to do it manually for every application, it is annoying for applications to show up or disappear when you expect it to be in the same place as few seconds before) |
| 13:31.12 | BluesKaj | retired envirotech, Linux is one of my hobbies |
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| 13:31.30 | ezra-s | what's envirotech? lol |
| 13:32.01 | lineinthesand | BluesKaj, the akonadi service is not running but needed for the configuration applet. |
| 13:32.04 | bitlord | also like nepomuk icon (I think) it shows up and disappears sometimes in few seconds, and when you want to click on it, you actually "miss it" and click on something else |
| 13:32.08 | vHanda | kde version? |
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| 13:32.41 | BluesKaj | environmental technician/analyst air and effluent quality, ezra-s |
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| 13:33.06 | weedmic | 4.10.5 release 1 |
| 13:33.18 | BluesKaj | ezra-s, I've been retired fro a while tho |
| 13:33.25 | BluesKaj | for |
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| 13:34.29 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, how about the quality of air? has it degradated much since you started working on it? ;) |
| 13:34.32 | BluesKaj | lineinthesand, setup akonadi server you need it for kmail and the other PIMs |
| 13:35.07 | lineinthesand | http://pastebin.com/m2j9Q8WH |
| 13:35.52 | lineinthesand | I tried to start the akonadi server, but got a backtrace |
| 13:37.36 | BluesKaj | ezra-s, I worked in pulp&paper mill lab, where the gases being sent to atmosphere and effluent to the local river drom the mill treatment lagoon had to be monitored according to government controls etc , it was mostly a routine testing job until the standards were exceeded then we got busy :) |
| 13:38.11 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, polluters!! :P |
| 13:39.26 | ezra-s | just kidding |
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| 13:40.44 | BluesKaj | well, yeah , but they keep it to a minimum and quite successfully |
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| 13:41.07 | Axtroz_ | lineinthesand, running nvidia binary drivers by any chance? |
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| 13:41.21 | lineinthesand | Axtroz_, yes indeed |
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| 13:42.21 | Axtroz_ | There's a bug in the drivers (fixed in their future release) that causes random trouble. I have the same issue, whenever I boot my computer at first login into KDE I need to do this in a terminal: pkill akonadi; akonadictl start |
| 13:42.44 | Axtroz_ | There's a running akonadi process but it's not registered anywhere and you can't "speak" to it. So kill it and run it again and all is well. |
| 13:44.04 | cchildress | hi, all. i'm having the hardest time getting KDE to re-apply my monitor settings when I log back in after returning to my workstation in the morning. If I restart, the dual-monitor settings are correctly applied (resolution, orientation, etc), but if I log out, stay logged out for several hours, and log back in, the output is duplicated on both monitors, at the higher resolution of the larger monitor. At this point, the displ |
| 13:44.05 | cchildress | ay configuration utility will not change anything at all, and I have to restart the computer to get the proper settings back. What might I be doing wrong? I'm running 4.11.3 on OpenSUSE 13.1, with an Intel chipset (i5). My first monitor is hooked up with VGA, the second is connected via DVI, which is adapted from a displayport connection. |
| 13:44.12 | cchildress | sorry for the huge spiel - thanks for any help |
| 13:44.35 | weedmic | I'm using KDE 4.10.5 release 1 on all my machines. I'm trying to connect from my computer "qm" to "helpticket" via krdc. I have setup helpticket using krfb. When I am at qm, I can ping to helpticket. When I try to connect using krdc, I get "host not found". Ideas? |
| 13:45.22 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, connecting via hostname or ip ? |
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| 13:46.11 | weedmic | I have tried both - I'm getting the reponses |
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| 13:47.40 | ambro718 | Hello. Is it possible to make apps using kwallet transparently just use gnome-keyring? |
| 13:47.55 | Axtroz_ | Try this: on "qm" open a terminal and type "telnet helpticket 5900" |
| 13:48.01 | weedmic | using rdp in krdc for helpticket:5900 I get a blue screen |
| 13:48.08 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, you should get something like RFB 003.008 |
| 13:48.52 | weedmic | r u in a terminal or from krdc gui? |
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| 13:49.13 | maclinuxfree | https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/kde-wallet-password-integratio/ |
| 13:49.20 | weedmic | fyi, I know krdc works from qm b/c I can connect to all teh winddoze servers |
| 13:50.04 | ambro718 | maclinuxfree: I have no idea what this is. |
| 13:50.34 | weedmic | I think there is something I need to do on helpticket to allow people to remote in, but other than krfb - I've no clue what it could be. I also opened the firewall to 5900 for tcp |
| 13:50.55 | ambro718 | I want kdevelop to read my SVN password from gnome-keyring. |
| 13:51.00 | weedmic | sorry, I missed one post, trying from terminal |
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| 13:51.02 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, when I try to login with krdc on localhost it waits for approval on krfb's end |
| 13:51.02 | weedmic | english is my 9th language - so it can beslow |
| 13:51.17 | maclinuxfree | you could use kwallet as firefox password manager, this is the way i do it |
| 13:51.22 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, and KRFB uses VNC protocol, not RDC |
| 13:51.54 | ambro718 | maclinuxfree: what does firefox have to do with kdevelop? |
| 13:52.34 | maclinuxfree | oh sorry just read hte last post from you |
| 13:53.17 | ambro718 | I think you just read it wrong ;) "Is it possible to make apps using kwallet transparently just use gnome-keyring?" |
| 13:53.20 | weedmic | telnet - got "conntected to helpticket", RFB 003.008, Connection closed by foreign host. |
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| 13:53.34 | ambro718 | kdevelop used kwalet (presumably), I want it to actually use gnome-keyring in the end |
| 13:53.36 | weedmic | I want to open vnc on helpticket - b/c I thought it was rdc |
| 13:53.56 | maclinuxfree | ok the other way round |
| 13:54.25 | ambro718 | I remember there was some quite discussion about a freedesktop standard for storing secrets |
| 13:54.33 | ambro718 | no fruits? |
| 13:54.37 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, krfb works with VNC protocol. Make sure you uncheck "ask before accepting connections" on "helpdesk" because it will wait otherwise. |
| 13:54.52 | Axtroz_ | That's in KRFB->Settings->Security |
| 13:55.38 | weedmic | VNC enabled with firewall open - got "VNC server closed connection" |
| 13:55.42 | Axtroz_ | You'll have to check "allow uninvited connections" and set a password in order to have unattended access to it |
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| 13:56.03 | weedmic | I'm double checking krfb, but I'm pretty sure I left it with the most lenient sets |
| 13:56.04 | weedmic | settings |
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| 13:57.54 | weedmic | I have allow remote, allow takeover and require a password (but I never get to teh password state) |
| 14:00.07 | weedmic | is there a group - like remotersin that I need to ensure weedmic is a member of? |
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| 14:01.42 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, not sure. Your user just has to be allowed to listen and accept connections on port 5900 (if you haven't changed it) afaik. |
| 14:01.51 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, here's my settings: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=845cd2e |
| 14:02.02 | Axtroz_ | Works like a charm. |
| 14:02.07 | weedmic | Is there a way to type in the password in the vnc/rdp field that is similar to rdesktop "rdesktop -uweedmic -prealpasswordhere -g1280x1000 helpticket:5900" that maybe would help it along |
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| 14:02.46 | weedmic | yes, those ARE my settings - even the same password :P |
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| 14:04.01 | Axtroz_ | weedmic, try another VNC client? Or install x11vnc on helpticket and try logging into that? |
| 14:05.10 | weedmic | ok, but to be sure, I have VNC set to on, krfb set like you, and am using krdc - these are normally the 3 things to setup - there is not forth item like perhaps opening up port 3389 for TCP or anything else? |
| 14:06.12 | Axtroz_ | Nothing else is needed. |
| 14:06.15 | weedmic | Q |
| 14:07.09 | weedmic | does vnc need to be on on both machines? |
| 14:12.51 | weedmic | works, I found the error and am reportint it to opensuse. yast does NOT open the port 5900 when checked in VNC to external. |
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| 14:46.37 | cousin_luigi | Axtroz_: mplayer2 works;) |
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| 14:47.26 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, what did you do? |
| 14:47.27 | ezra-s | :) |
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| 14:53.56 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: I just installed mplayer2 instead of mplayer, apparently the fork relies on a compatible version of libvdpau:) |
| 14:54.53 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, congrats ;) |
| 14:55.29 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, why do you play videos with "mplayer"? |
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| 14:58.03 | Guest8916 | hi,everyone |
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| 15:01.25 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: what else should I use? |
| 15:02.31 | Guest8916 | what? |
| 15:03.01 | Guest8916 | puchong@freaper |
| 15:03.43 | Guest8916 | Kuala Lumpur |
| 15:03.45 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, vlc |
| 15:03.59 | ezra-s | for example |
| 15:04.11 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: not fluid enough, not enough control from the keyboard. |
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| 15:04.54 | ezra-s | cousin_luigi, mmm... do you use it for desktop or to watch movies in tv? |
| 15:05.36 | Guest8916 | watch tv ,vlc,good |
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| 15:05.59 | ezra-s | I'm just wondering, not saying what you do is bad or anything of that type |
| 15:06.38 | cousin_luigi | ezra-s: desktop |
| 15:06.39 | BluesKaj | vlc is very configurable , mplayer is better at handling poorly coded video in my experience |
| 15:06.49 | cousin_luigi | vlc is a dog |
| 15:06.50 | cousin_luigi | It flickers like there's no tomorrow |
| 15:07.12 | cousin_luigi | also I like being able to use command-line switches |
| 15:07.42 | BluesKaj | no it's not 99% of videos will play on it , if setup properlyI use it especailly for TV viewing |
| 15:07.55 | ezra-s | mmm, strange, vlc performs very well for me.. I guess it depends, in any case if it's good for you, there is nothing more to add ;) |
| 15:08.15 | cousin_luigi | doesn't even have a tv set:) |
| 15:08.27 | ezra-s | I have a xbmc oriented mini-distro for TV, openelec, awesome performance |
| 15:08.51 | BluesKaj | cousin_luigi, then it's a problem with your monitor not vlc |
| 15:09.24 | cousin_luigi | BluesKaj: same monitor works perfectly with mplayer |
| 15:09.29 | BluesKaj | tried XBMC, not my cuppa tea, tries to do too much |
| 15:09.43 | cousin_luigi | So I surmise it has more to do with how vlc accesses hardware. |
| 15:10.07 | BluesKaj | cousin_luigi, admit it you're a cli freak :) |
| 15:10.41 | cousin_luigi | "It just works":) |
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| 15:11.58 | BluesKaj | mplayer is my last resort, if a video doesn't play well on VLC , I'll admit that. |
| 15:12.13 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, for TV is ideal |
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| 15:12.44 | BluesKaj | ezra-s, do you mean VLC ? |
| 15:13.09 | BluesKaj | ok , got some errands to do ...BBL |
| 15:18.18 | ezra-s | BluesKaj, XBMC |
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| 15:37.31 | cousin_luigi | Should I be using pulseaudio at all? |
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| 15:44.03 | Axtroz_ | cousin_luigi, that depends. There are many people that don't like it, others do. If you're fine without it, then it's safe to say you don't need it. |
| 15:45.58 | Axtroz_ | I use it for on-the-fly switching between multiple sound cards (USB soundcard, bluetooth headset, HDMI and analog). Pulse certainly has more features than that but I'm not that familiar with it and just use it for my needs. :P |
| 15:47.37 | FlameReaper | Axtroz_: which reminds me, how do I switch between those without having to disable one? |
| 15:47.38 | cousin_luigi | bah, it must be my player then |
| 15:48.06 | FlameReaper | in my case, after I connect my bluetooth headset to the laptop I have to disable the laptop's internal audio |
| 15:48.10 | Lady_Aleena | How do I set up a keyboard shortcut for a program to be run in wine? |
| 15:48.47 | Lady_Aleena | I've tried "wine program_name", "wine program_path", "program_name", "program_path", and nothing works. |
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| 15:51.32 | Lady_Aleena | I am trying to set up a Global Shortcut for /home/me/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe |
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| 15:52.37 | Axtroz_ | FlameReaper, I open kmix, find the audio stream, right-click and select Move-><desired soundcard> |
| 15:52.56 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, create a launcher and assign a shortcut for that |
| 15:53.30 | Lady_Aleena | How would I do that? |
| 15:53.43 | FlameReaper | Axtroz_: ah, so that means I can set preferences for individual audio streams? Like my media player on my headset, while mplayer stays on the plugged in audio jack? |
| 15:53.46 | FlameReaper | Fantastic. |
| 15:53.56 | Axtroz_ | Yes, pulse allows that |
| 15:54.01 | FlameReaper | Awesome. |
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| 15:57.48 | lineinthesand | Is there a way in kmail to override the default font size in those dreadful html mails? |
| 15:58.05 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, Right-click in a folder -> Create new -> Link to application-> Application tab->command: wine '/path/to/notepad++.exe', fill in other fields and save it. |
| 15:58.20 | Axtroz_ | Then you can assign a hotkey to that particular launcher. |
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| 15:58.42 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, out of curiosity, why do you prefer notepad++ over kate? |
| 16:01.08 | Axtroz_ | lineinthesand, KMail settings->Appearance->Use custom fonts |
| 16:01.09 | cousin_luigi | What's wrong with geany? |
| 16:01.16 | Axtroz_ | It's GTK ? :D |
| 16:01.22 | lineinthesand | Axtroz_, I've tried that, but that html mail seems to ignore that. I can only view the html source code in that overridden font. |
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| 16:02.39 | Lady_Aleena | Axtroz_, Notepad++ can find/replace across all open documents, save all documents at the same time, close all documents at the same time, has better syntax highlighting, has tab guides, and a lot of other little things I can't live without. |
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| 16:04.01 | nillian | I've found Notepad++ through Wine to be significantly better/faster at handling large files, also. |
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| 16:04.13 | nillian | Better than kate/gedit etc |
| 16:04.21 | Kelsar | vim *runs away* |
| 16:04.33 | Alumin | is there a way to get KNotes to keep your font settings across invocations? |
| 16:04.47 | nillian | (I don't use np++, just adding to a list of reasons why it could be considered "better") |
| 16:05.32 | Alumin | every time I start KDE, any existing notes are reverted to the KDE global default font (and not the font configured in KNotes' configuration) |
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| 16:05.46 | mamarley | Kate seems especially poor at handling long lines of text. |
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| 16:06.30 | lineinthesand | mamarley, lines of which length? |
| 16:07.11 | mamarley | I don't have the exact number, but it lags unusably if you try to open up the minified version of jquery. |
| 16:07.29 | lineinthesand | I see. VERY long lines. |
| 16:07.39 | Lady_Aleena | Well, creating an application link was a bust. It just won't work. |
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| 16:08.58 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, does it work by clicking the application launcher? |
| 16:09.06 | Lady_Aleena | No. |
| 16:09.24 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, do you get any message? |
| 16:10.37 | Lady_Aleena | Not when I try using just the command "'/home/ME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe'" |
| 16:10.46 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, here's the contents of one of my launchers. It doesn't have a hotkey assigned but works flawless. Maybe you can compare them and see if something is off? http://pastebin.com/x9KrN6ZB |
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| 16:11.35 | Lady_Aleena | I get "KDEInit could not launch 'wine /home/dawn/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe': |
| 16:11.35 | Lady_Aleena | Could not find 'wine /home/dawn/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe' executable." when I try "'wine /home/ME/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Notepad++/notepad++.exe'" |
| 16:12.08 | cousin_luigi | Lady_Aleena: maybe you have to add some escape characters, or better put that into a script |
| 16:12.26 | Lady_Aleena | head desks. |
| 16:12.56 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, haven't tried it, but did you put your path to notepad in single quotes? |
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| 16:14.51 | Lady_Aleena | Hold on, I think I have it. |
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| 16:15.51 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, good! (I just tried it; it works for me) |
| 16:16.37 | Lady_Aleena | I feel bad about using Notepad++, but I just can't find as robust and easy to use text editor among the Linux alternatives. |
| 16:17.17 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, don't feel bad. But if you ever need to do serious text editing, try to learn vim. |
| 16:18.53 | Lady_Aleena | Vim is run in a terminal, and anything run in the terminal is no good for mass changes. |
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| 16:18.55 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, that's definitely not true. |
| 16:18.57 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, Actually vim is a powerhouse and contains everything + the kitchen sink. |
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| 16:18.58 | lineinthesand | Of course, it depends on what exactly you have to do. |
| 16:18.59 | Lady_Aleena | If I want to change the shebang across all of my perl scripts, Notepad++ can do it easier than anything run in the terminal. |
| 16:19.08 | Axtroz_ | But in the years I'm used to find/sed so maybe that's just me xD |
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| 16:19.52 | Lady_Aleena | I can open 100s of documents in one instance of Notepad++. I doubt Vim can do that. |
| 16:19.53 | Axtroz_ | find /path/to/dir -name "*.pl" -exec sed 's@#!/usr/bin/perl@#!/usr/local/bin/perl#g -i {} \; ? |
| 16:20.02 | Kelsar | Lady_Aleena: nope, one command in vim. Just apply your command to all buffers |
| 16:20.28 | Lady_Aleena | Axtroz_, my scripts are not all in one dir. |
| 16:20.37 | nillian | Vim is quite a bit more powerful + flexible than np++ |
| 16:20.59 | nillian | in my experience (having used both separately for around 4 years) |
| 16:21.03 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, find could handle that too |
| 16:21.06 | nillian | (maybe longer .. :S) |
| 16:21.11 | Lady_Aleena | Sorry, I looked at Vim and ran screaming for the hills. It is all text based. |
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| 16:21.33 | Lady_Aleena | I prefer a nice GUI interface most of the time. |
| 16:21.42 | nillian | Fair enough |
| 16:21.44 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, I understand that. It's a different paradigm to GUI usage |
| 16:22.16 | Lady_Aleena | I've been using Notepad++ on Windows for years. I need it to get my perl work done. |
| 16:22.34 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, but you'd be surprised at how fast you are at certain things once you give up on the GUI-only attitude (o; |
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| 16:23.22 | lineinthesand | (just a tip, no order) |
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| 16:24.03 | Axtroz_ | lineinthesand, words of wisdom :D |
| 16:24.08 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, maybe after I get some things done. It has been over a month since I wrote any perl, and I don't remember where I left off. |
| 16:24.08 | nillian | Amen |
| 16:24.09 | lineinthesand | Indeed. |
| 16:25.01 | Lady_Aleena | I tried to figure out how to open a file in Vim, and I couldn't even do that. |
| 16:25.04 | lineinthesand | I, for one, couldn't live without vim's movement to bookmarked locations in the code. |
| 16:25.59 | mamarley | Whenever I try to use vim, I end up spending longer reading the vim manpage than I spend doing whatever it was I was actually trying to do. |
| 16:26.11 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, the problem is that vim really becomes more usable by certain extensions. |
| 16:26.53 | Lady_Aleena | I don't use bookmarks in my code. |
| 16:27.44 | Lady_Aleena | And what is it with most Linux programs that they LOVE wrapping lines? I loathe any program which wraps lines without my explicit command. |
| 16:28.05 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, well, that's good for you if you don't have to. I have to deal with many files of 5000+ lines of fortran code every day. Would be horrible without fast movement between various code locations. |
| 16:28.55 | Axtroz_ | Lady_Aleena, new to the linux scene? |
| 16:29.24 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, which programs do you mean? |
| 16:29.24 | Lady_Aleena | Axtroz_, a little over a month, though a week of the last month was spent afk. |
| 16:29.40 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, most text editors and terminal emulators. |
| 16:29.42 | lineinthesand | (I couldn't think of one except for thunderbird) |
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| 16:31.00 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, what do you mean by word-wrapping? Inserting hard line breaks without being asked? |
| 16:31.38 | Lady_Aleena | The latter. |
| 16:32.02 | Lady_Aleena | Even Konsole wraps my output lines. |
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| 16:33.16 | Lady_Aleena | The terminal emulators Konsole and XTerm line wrap without me tell them to. I tried about half a dozen text editors and they all line wrapped, and I couldn't find how to turn it off. |
| 16:33.37 | lineinthesand | I don't quite understand what you mean. |
| 16:33.38 | Kelsar | Lady_Aleena: terms use a fixed line length, you would loose anything longer. You can however disable line wrapping with an escape sequence |
| 16:33.44 | Lady_Aleena | In terminal emulators, I only want newlines when I call for them. |
| 16:34.16 | Lady_Aleena | So insert a line break only when my perl code has a "\n" in it. |
| 16:35.28 | Axtroz_ | Let's see if I get this: You print out a line of 400 characters into a terminal that has a 250 character width and expect no wrapping? Is windows doing that? |
| 16:35.50 | Axtroz_ | Where are the other characters going then? |
| 16:36.02 | Lady_Aleena | Axtroz_, yes, and I like it that way. I am willing to scroll to the right to see the end of the line. |
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| 16:36.20 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, but it doesn't insert linebreaks! |
| 16:36.38 | Kelsar | Lady_Aleena: this don't work with terms |
| 16:37.22 | Lady_Aleena | Kelsar, I found a terminal emulator which prints the output the way I like called Terminator (not the GNOME one). |
| 16:37.33 | lineinthesand | When I have this line: \acro{megeo3chs}[\ce{MeGeO3CHS}]{Decamethyl\hyp{}3\hyp{}germa\hyp{}2,4,10\hyp{}trioxa"-tri"-cyclo"-[3.3.1.1\hoch{3,7}]"-deca"-silan} displayed in konsole, it wraps at \ho but when I mark the two lines and copy the e.g. to kwrite, it's still one line. |
| 16:37.50 | lineinthesand | *them |
| 16:38.20 | Sho_ | lineinthesand: Kate has bookmarks too btw |
| 16:38.22 | lineinthesand | (No information altered) |
| 16:38.41 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, yes, but my tabination doesn't show correctly with line wrapping. |
| 16:38.50 | lineinthesand | Sho_, good to know. |
| 16:39.18 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, you mean output to a terminal? |
| 16:39.26 | Sho_ | lineinthesand: As well as scrollbar marks for them, and a minimap scrollbar - it's pretty nice when dealing with very large files |
| 16:39.27 | Lady_Aleena | Yes lineinthesand. |
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| 16:40.23 | lineinthesand | Because if you output to a file you can open that e.g. in vim and decide whether you want it wrapped or not. |
| 16:41.10 | lineinthesand | (In fact, in vim, I have F4 set to toggle that as I also need that sometimes) |
| 16:41.35 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, most of my perl scripts' output is for browsers; however, if something goes wrong, I need to output the script to a terminal. |
| 16:42.26 | Sho_ | Kate also has quite a robust vim input mode, actually |
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| 16:43.00 | Lady_Aleena | Kate is sorely lacking in syntax highlighting specificity. |
| 16:43.11 | lineinthesand | I'm using vim input mode in eclipse too (o; |
| 16:43.27 | nillian | Lady_Aleena - unfortunately I've not found a way to make a terminal emulator window larger than the terminal window itself - adding horizontal scrollbars |
| 16:43.41 | Sho_ | I mostly use Kate's editor tech in KDevelop, which has the best C++ syntax highlighting in the world |
| 16:43.51 | nillian | Lady_Aleena - Might be worth a feature request though :-) |
| 16:44.10 | Lady_Aleena | I am happy I have Notepad++ for my text editor and Terminator for my terminal emulator. |
| 16:44.25 | Lady_Aleena | nillian, are you a KDE developer? |
| 16:45.47 | nillian | Lady_Aleena - nope! |
| 16:46.01 | Lady_Aleena | They might want to look at http://software.jessies.org/terminator/ to see how it was done for that program. |
| 16:46.01 | Sho_ | is one |
| 16:46.19 | Sho_ | I'm also the author of Yakuake and have done some work on Konsole, actually |
| 16:46.59 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, while I have so many gurus here, why does it take two tries to get KMail to open? |
| 16:48.11 | Lady_Aleena | I click the KMail shortcut in the Application Launcher Menu, it tries to open, then quits, I click the shortcut again, then it opens. |
| 16:48.14 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, you could try to start it from konsole and see whether it gives any error messages the first time |
| 16:48.16 | nillian | Lady_Aleena - I almost exclusively use Yakuake since I'm a fan of dropdown terminals but Terminator does look pretty good |
| 16:49.45 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, thanks for mentioning terminator. I'll give it a try at work in my windows vm (had not found any decent console application for windows yet). |
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| 16:50.02 | Lady_Aleena | http://pastebin.kde.org/pm03ymbki |
| 16:50.36 | Sho_ | Konsole (and Yakuake) actually work quite well on Windows now, though you need a dev version |
| 16:50.37 | lineinthesand | (In linux, I'm very happy with konsole) |
| 16:50.48 | Lady_Aleena | My OS is Debian 7, so any improvements will take FOREVER to get to me. |
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| 16:51.30 | nillian | terminator appears to require libbluray on fedora? |
| 16:51.54 | Sho_ | makes sense, what terminal emulator doesn't need blu-ray playback functionality |
| 16:52.12 | Lady_Aleena | So, any idea what that means when I try to open KMail? |
| 16:52.15 | nillian | .... so weird |
| 16:52.29 | Sho_ | nillian: the only thing I can think of is that Terminator is a Java application and Blu-ray's GUI system is based on a Java VM iirc, so maybe libbluray has something useful for Java apps |
| 16:52.58 | nillian | Yeah I suppose that would make sense. But even so ... it should be a separate lib, surely. |
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| 16:53.40 | Lady_Aleena | Also, it takes FOREVER for KMail to open on the second try. |
| 16:54.02 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, no. Does kmail crash after issuing these messages? |
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| 16:54.21 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, it doesn't open is all I know. |
| 16:54.29 | Sho_ | I'd guess some sort of problem with bringing up MySQL or so, but without debug output there's no way to tell |
| 16:54.32 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, I have to try again. |
| 16:54.50 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, I'm still using thunderbird. |
| 16:55.00 | Lady_Aleena | Sho_, and how do I get debug output? |
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| 16:55.57 | Sho_ | running akonadictl restart from a terminal to put akonadi's debug stdout on the tty usually seems interesting |
| 16:56.19 | Sho_ | doesn't hack on the pim apps tho |
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| 16:56.23 | Sho_ | well, I worked on Akregator a bit back in the day but it doesn't use Akonadi so far |
| 16:56.52 | Lady_Aleena | So, since I don't know how to debug, I will just have to deal with KMail not opening on the first try and opening really slow on the second try. |
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| 16:57.49 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, or use Thunderbird. |
| 17:00.57 | Lady_Aleena | lineinthesand, I spent weeks trying to parse my Outlook.pst file into something KMail can read, hours reorganizing the output, and another hour creating filters for KMail. How easy would it be to port everything from KMail to IceDove? |
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| 17:01.37 | nillian | Lady_Aleena - have you tried searching for KMail debug output? There's quite a few results |
| 17:02.07 | Lady_Aleena | nillian, I don't know where to start looking. |
| 17:02.57 | Sho_ | mentioned a starting point above |
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| 17:03.22 | Lady_Aleena | Sho_, what is akinadictl? |
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| 17:03.50 | Sho_ | It's a command line app to control the akonadi daemon |
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| 17:05.41 | nillian | https://www.google.com/search?q=kmail+debug+output - some of these results might help - you may need to do some digging, however. |
| 17:05.44 | Lady_Aleena | Sho_, Okay, I ran akonadictl, what's next? |
| 17:05.50 | lineinthesand | Lady_Aleena, what format did you convert your data to? |
| 17:06.27 | Sho_ | Lady_Aleena: After 'akonadictl restart' akonadi's debug output should be going to that terminal, so when you start KMail now there should be all sorts of output |
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| 17:08.01 | Lady_Aleena | Sho_, I think it is hung. |
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| 17:09.49 | Lady_Aleena | Sho_, http://pastebin.kde.org/p0lfo2ceh |
| 17:09.54 | Sho_ | Further makes me wonder if there's a problem with the MySQL daemon or so. Dunno tho, just poking in the dark from afar |
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| 17:14.28 | Lady_Aleena | So, how do I stop this safely? |
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| 17:16.39 | Sho_ | Lady_Aleena: the thing on the terminal? just closing it is fine |
| 17:16.53 | Lady_Aleena | So, ctrl-c? |
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| 17:17.16 | Sho_ | Lady_Aleena: won't have any effect since there's nothing listening on the other end |
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| 17:19.38 | Lady_Aleena | I'll just have to deal with it, since I don't know what I'm doing. |
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| 17:20.04 | Sho_ | Just close that Terminator tab |
| 17:20.28 | Lady_Aleena | I meant the KMial problem. |
| 17:20.49 | Lady_Aleena | ACK! I can't type anymore. |
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| 17:53.12 | jbwiv | hi guys. I'm having a lot of problem with mtp on Kubuntu 13.10. I can navigate folders on my phone, but when I get to the deepest folder where content is it says "Could not enter folder /SM-N900V/Card/SomeFolder". anyone else having this problem? |
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| 18:25.47 | BluesKaj | jbwiv, i have to ask , is the folder shared? |
| 18:26.21 | jbwiv | hi guys. I'm having a lot of problem with mtp on Kubuntu 13.10. I can navigate folders on my phone, but when I get to the deepest folder where content is it says "Could not enter folder /SM-N900V/Card/SomeFolder". anyone else having this problem? |
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| 18:45.37 | utusan | looking at the schedules, looks like we have 4.11, 4.12 and 4.13 being developed at the same time. Is there a significant reason why 3 versions exist? |
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| 18:55.43 | Axtroz_ | That's interesting. Does anyone have an idea why KDE apps are performing better when running without KDE ? e.g. if I fire dolphin under Xfce it executes faster and performs better than in KDE itself. By "better" i mean the directory listings is faster, thumbnails are generated more quickly and it's more responsive. |
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| 18:58.40 | utusan | Actually 4.12 seems a lot slower than 4.11 - slow to bring up desktop. I have razorqt when kwin is the window mgr it's so slow |
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| 19:00.51 | shumski | actually there is no 4.12 KWin ;-) or Plasma (kde-workspace is frozen at 4.11.x) |
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| 19:01.52 | Neverther | quick bombardment: can you get this in konqueror4? http://never.mortals.dy.fi/screeny.png |
| 19:01.53 | Neverther | (kuick-copy plugin) |
| 19:01.59 | utusan | shumski: it may not be called the same but when in razorqt select window manager that's what comes up |
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| 19:02.21 | Neverther | cant be arsed to patch 3 for lua 5.2 so thinking about transistioning |
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| 19:03.27 | utusan | Axtroz_: why use dolphin in xfce? bringing in dolphin will bring in almost the kitchen sink. |
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| 19:04.26 | Axtroz_ | Yes, I know. I stardted it by habbit while I'm testing some stuff and I got impressed with the load speed and the overall performance. |
| 19:04.42 | Axtroz_ | s/stardted/started/ |
| 19:05.49 | utusan | thunar is the default for xfce but I use pcmanfm now |
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| 19:09.26 | utusan | you should try it since it's now qt based |
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| 19:16.38 | Axtroz_ | I'm happy with KDE :) Like I said I had to test something under Xfce but started dolphin by habbit :) |
| 19:19.11 | Sho_ | Axtroz_: The only thing I could imagine is that your distro sets up KDE so that QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM is set to native in KDE sessions and outside KDE the Qt 4.8+ default of raster takes hold |
| 19:19.42 | Axtroz_ | Sho_, so raster is faster than native? |
| 19:19.59 | Sho_ | Axtroz_: Usually, in most cases and situations |
| 19:20.06 | Sho_ | (sadly) |
| 19:20.48 | Axtroz_ | Hm. Always thought it's the other way around. Tbh never really did experiment with that. |
| 19:20.58 | Axtroz_ | Either way, thanks for the heads-up :) |
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| 23:28.55 | RedChops | Hey guys, is there any reason why KDM would take a good 5 minutes after typing in my password to start loading the WM? |
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| 23:30.42 | valorie | RedChops: without knowing any details, I would say NO |
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| 23:31.37 | RedChops | valorie, yeah...i'm not sure where to begin diagnosis, is there some sort of specific KDM log? |
| 23:32.10 | valorie | hmmm, I don't use kdm anymore, so if I ever knew, have forgotten |
| 23:33.28 | RedChops | does lightdm do the same job with regards to starting services? |
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| 23:36.17 | valorie | some of the same jobs, I assume |
| 23:36.17 | Kitzu_ | http://xmodulo.com/2014/01/integrate-android-kde-linux-desktop.html |
| 23:36.20 | Kitzu_ | found this on reddit |
| 23:36.27 | Kitzu_ | for those who didn't know before |
| 23:36.29 | Kitzu_ | like me ;) |
| 23:36.55 | Kitzu_ | fucking awesome |
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| 23:37.22 | valorie | RedChops: I found this, which might be useful: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDM |
| 23:37.52 | valorie | interesting quote from there: |
| 23:37.55 | valorie | Slow KDM start |
| 23:37.58 | valorie | If KDM is taking a long time to display the login screen (e.g. 15-30 seconds) you may try rebuilding the X font caches: |
| 23:38.10 | RedChops | Hm, I'll have to give that a shot |
| 23:38.14 | valorie | the archlinux wikis are generally dang good |
| 23:38.19 | valorie | uses kubuntu |
| 23:39.02 | valorie | it appears that the logs are at /var/log/kdm.log |
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| 23:40.05 | RedChops | valorie, there it is! |
| 23:40.28 | valorie | anything interesting there? |
| 23:41.14 | RedChops | yeah, it can't connect to dbus..but dbus is loaded |
| 23:41.27 | RedChops | it says that no dbus session-bus found |
| 23:42.07 | Alumin | every time I start KDE, any existing notes are reverted to the KDE global default font (and not the font configured in KNotes' configuration) |
| 23:42.50 | Alumin | is there any way to prevent that? New notes I create use the correct font |
| 23:43.26 | Alumin | I guess it's probably any time I start KNotes...haven't tried restarting KNotes independently of KDE |
| 23:44.31 | Alumin | normally I'm a take-it-or-leave-it kind of guy when it comes to fonts, but my default KDE font is proportional and this behaviour is tearing up my artfully-indented fixed-width font notes :P |
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| 23:54.35 | fairc | Alumin: did you figured out the config file of Knotes? |
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| 23:55.37 | Alumin | no...can I edit something in there to fix this? 'Cause I'm sure I can find it if I hunt for it |
| 23:56.42 | fairc | yes, I would assume so. |
| 23:56.48 | Alumin | yeah, I found ~/.kde/share/config/knotesrc |
| 23:57.00 | Alumin | it's configured correctly, I can see where the editor font is set to Ubuntu Mono |
| 23:57.01 | fairc | But I don't have this problem here so I can't tell for sure |
| 23:57.16 | Alumin | would you mind trying something for me real quick? |
| 23:57.23 | Alumin | do you have a custom editor font configured? |
| 23:57.34 | fairc | OK, you can try setting the cfg file write protected, so it doesnt change |
| 23:57.42 | fairc | No |
| 23:57.54 | Alumin | oh...well maybe that's why you haven't noticed :) |
| 23:58.21 | Alumin | I don't think it's a problem in the config file...whenever I open the config dialog in KNotes, for example, the settings are correct |
| 23:58.38 | fairc | ah |
| 23:58.42 | Alumin | and any new notes created do have the correct font (temporarily) |
| 23:59.04 | fairc | then this is a differente case and probably a bug |
| 23:59.22 | fairc | did you searched BKO already? |
