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| 00:07.25 | Lady_Aleena | rdieter, that's okay. I'll use the Windows ones until I get them renamed. |
| 00:07.36 | Lady_Aleena | was off doing laundry. |
| 00:07.56 | rdieter | Lady_Aleena: you can configure xdg-user-dirs to use whatever you want |
| 00:08.18 | rdieter | Lady_Aleena: see /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults and /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf |
| 00:09.38 | Lady_Aleena | rdieter, I was just wondering if they were already there. Does xdg-use-dirs do anything special to the directories it creates ie. makes a picture dir which does picture things. |
| 00:10.14 | rdieter | it just handles creating them, and exposing their configuratin to apps/libraries that use them |
| 00:10.25 | Lady_Aleena | apps/libraries? |
| 00:11.04 | rdieter | if an app wants to query what a users' Music folder is, it parses the output of: xdg-user-dir MUSIC |
| 00:11.18 | Lady_Aleena | I've only been using KDE/Debian/Linux for ~2 days. |
| 00:11.18 | rdieter | for example, on my account, that returns: /home/rdieter1/Music |
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| 00:13.36 | Lady_Aleena | Would that help things like VLC, JuK, etc? |
| 00:15.10 | tosky | you can configure/change them from systemsettings -> Account details -> Paths (or something like that) |
| 00:16.17 | Lady_Aleena | Oh! It looks like it is already set up. |
| 00:17.38 | Lady_Aleena | tosky, you were exactly right about the location. |
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| 01:07.27 | lars | How do I pin my ¨Downloads¨ folder from my Home drive onto my Kubuntu desktop? |
| 01:07.27 | lars | I want to create a shortcut on my desktop so I can access my Downloads folder from my Home drive to my desktop |
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| 01:17.38 | planhths | Hello I have a problem with latest kde release candidate (4.11.97). Lists like the one in get new widgets or the About "Application Name" dialog are empty or missing elements. See screenshots http://i42.tinypic.com/2dif036.png http://i39.tinypic.com/azd38.png http://i42.tinypic.com/j60gt3.png Anyone has reported this bug? |
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| 01:29.21 | planhths | also some results with oxygen theme... |
| 01:30.47 | moviuro | planhths: #kde-devel would be a better place for your questions IMO |
| 01:31.34 | planhths | ok thanks |
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| 02:35.00 | planhths | Hello I have filled a new bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328528 |
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| 06:11.06 | stardiviner | The KDE window decorations disappeared for Firefox, but other windows are fine like Konsole. How to restore it ? |
| 06:11.51 | thiago | Alt+F3, Advanced, remove the checkbox from No borders |
| 06:13.02 | stardiviner | thiago: there is no response for Alt+F3 in firefox |
| 06:13.42 | thiago | does it work on other windows? |
| 06:15.36 | stardiviner | thiago: not work in other windows too. And it shows "OR" in terminal |
| 06:15.58 | thiago | looks like kwin isn't running |
| 06:16.01 | thiago | it might have crashed |
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| 06:21.13 | stardiviner | thiago: crashed ? |
| 06:21.47 | stardiviner | $ ps aux | grep kwin -> chris 14796 6.6 2.7 1004712 105336 ? Sl 14:05 1:03 /usr/bin/kwin --replace |
| 06:21.48 | stardiviner | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.58 | stardiviner | seems still running |
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| 06:25.10 | stardiviner | thiago: when I swith compositing type from "opengl" into "Xrandr", the window decoration for Firefox is back. |
| 06:25.23 | stardiviner | Maybe I missed some OpenGL things ? |
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| 06:39.06 | stardiviner | thiago: I found it, because I upgrade from Ubuntu raring version, do-release-upgrade have not install some packages like libgles2-mesa libkwinglesutils1 libglapi-mesa and kde-window-manager-gles etc. Seems KDE switch OpenGL from 1 to 2 or something. |
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| 09:08.05 | HowlingBeautyful | Hello friends |
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| 09:09.40 | robiv | hey HowlingBeautyful |
| 09:09.43 | robiv | ever use kde? |
| 09:09.46 | robiv | it's pretty cool |
| 09:10.00 | robiv | it's kind of like gnome but not for drooling mouthbreathing babies |
| 09:10.14 | HowlingBeautyful | Yes, KDE is one of the most diverse desktop environments I have ever used. |
| 09:10.19 | Derpian | stop making fun of kde |
| 09:10.19 | robiv | linux torvalds used to use KDE |
| 09:10.19 | Derpian | -_- |
| 09:10.27 | robiv | now he uses XFCE, but still |
| 09:10.40 | HeronBased | what the fuck is KDE |
| 09:10.51 | HowlingBeautyful | By the way, it's Linux/GNU, Linux is the kernel, but GNU has to be shown as well, as they are the same. |
| 09:11.05 | robiv | Derpian: HeronBased is not associated with me or HowlingBeautyful btw. he is just a random troll who stalks me |
| 09:11.12 | HeronBased | what |
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| 09:11.18 | HeronBased | the fuck did I do |
| 09:11.22 | HowlingBeautyful | :/ what |
| 09:11.24 | HeronBased | Im just curious what KDE is |
| 09:11.49 | Derpian | HeronBased: Desktop Environment |
| 09:12.09 | DrEeevil | HowlingBeautyful: I disagree with that - it must be GNU/BSD/MIT/Artistic-Linux, at least |
| 09:12.14 | robiv | it's the K desktop environment |
| 09:12.25 | DrEeevil | HowlingBeautyful: so let's just not be stupid and drop these silly prefixes |
| 09:12.28 | robiv | the K stands for kosher |
| 09:12.35 | robiv | i like to just call my os "slackware" |
| 09:13.22 | HowlingBeautyful | BUT, it has to be GNU/LINUX! Can't you see? Open source software is degraded since these bigger names are taking over all! |
| 09:13.42 | DrEeevil | HowlingBeautyful: but GNU needs Artistic (perl) to work, so it's GNU/Artistic GNU |
| 09:13.45 | robiv | you really suck at trolling. i dont get why you try to troll every channel we join |
| 09:13.48 | HowlingBeautyful | Evidence of this is on sourceforge, look at all those debunking and bloating from the latest installer. |
| 09:13.54 | DrEeevil | so that game ends up in recursive stupidity |
| 09:13.57 | robiv | DrEeevil: perl? that's like, "8j9t4wT$@(TU42tyw34y2t4" right |
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| 09:14.15 | robiv | (%_@&(%(&@$^&@*$^&@$ valid perl code |
| 09:14.46 | DrEeevil | robiv: yeah, and still a critical bit of infrastructure |
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| 09:31.21 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, how do set up my own color scheme? I can't find anything I really like in System Settings -> Workspace Appearance |
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| 09:34.25 | cb400f | try Application appearance |
| 09:34.49 | cb400f | what exactly do you want this colour scheme to apply to? |
| 09:34.56 | cb400f | also see kde-look.org |
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| 09:38.39 | Lady_Aleena | cb400f, thanks. |
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| 10:07.54 | aural | I just learned about the vivaldi tablet, but I can't seem to find any official resource for it. Does anyone know? |
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| 12:26.12 | agus | how to adding skype acount for kde im |
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| 12:39.09 | irc-5225225 | It does support setting a background, but that isn't offset by the window position. |
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| 12:48.20 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
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| 14:29.30 | Daytar | Hi guys, where i can found latest version of nepomuk2 bindings? Package from my distro not contain it, only old API -__- |
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| 14:55.07 | rdieter | Daytar: nepomuk-core and nepomuk-widgets (-dev or -devel bits, if your distro splits them) |
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| 14:56.17 | Daytar | rdieter: nepomuk-core and nepomuk-widgets already installed |
| 14:56.57 | Daytar | rdieter: but i get ImportError: No module named 'PyKDE4.nepomuk2' when try import |
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| 15:01.43 | rdieter | Daytar: ah, python bindings. I think there's only a PyKDE4.nepomuk module |
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| 15:03.10 | rdieter | hrm, googling seems to suggest otherwise |
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| 15:04.55 | rdieter | Daytar: what distro? |
| 15:05.04 | rdieter | may have to poke them to get this build/packaged right |
| 15:05.04 | Daytar | arch |
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| 15:05.22 | Daytar | Also i find this http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fsedwards%2Fpykde4nepomuk2.git |
| 15:08.18 | rdieter | hrm, pykde4-4.11.x sources contain no references to nepomuk2 |
| 15:09.00 | Daytar | Yeah |
| 15:09.20 | rdieter | so, looks like that's not supported (yet) |
| 15:10.02 | Daytar | So, i can use only old API? |
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| 19:19.54 | Lady_Aleena | Where does KDE store the file associations? Using System Settings -> File Associations is taking too long. |
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| 20:17.28 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: in theory you are not allowed to peek behind the courtain... |
| 20:19.06 | Lady_Aleena | Walex, I'm getting that, and it is making me very frustrated. |
| 20:19.10 | ompaul | you can but you better be very sure you do what you think you are doing |
| 20:19.27 | ompaul | because one wrong idea and no more functions like you used to have if you pick the wrong thin |
| 20:19.30 | ompaul | thing |
| 20:21.03 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: that's the problem with point-and-click GUIs: lots and lots of point-and-clicking. |
| 20:21.34 | Lady_Aleena | Yeah, I have done more mousing in KDE than I did with Windows. |
| 20:22.50 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: Uhmmm I want to revise my file associations too. There is a file that contains them in some semi-reasonable format, and it is easy to find... |
| 20:23.09 | Walex | also I suspect that there is some DBUS API for that. but might be too optimistic. |
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| 20:24.26 | Lady_Aleena | Walex, I am already done. So find it for your own knowledge. I couldn't find it, so I went through and did it manually. |
| 20:27.00 | Lady_Aleena | I know I broke the desktop theme. I can't seem to get my desktop to look right. |
| 20:28.47 | Lady_Aleena | The more I try to fix it, the worse it gets. |
| 20:29.47 | Walex | the file associations are in '~/.local/share/mime' |
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| 20:31.51 | Walex | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/shared-mime-info-spec/ |
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| 20:32.44 | Walex | ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list |
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| 20:35.51 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a way to tell KDE to reset the desktop to whatever theme it originally installed, so I can start over? |
| 20:36.34 | Lady_Aleena | Or would I have reinstall Debian from scratch? |
| 20:36.49 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: in "System Settings". At worst you have to reinstall the given package. |
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| 20:37.27 | Lady_Aleena | Application Appearance or Workspace Appearance? |
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| 20:38.07 | cb400f | Lady_Aleena: just (re)move the plasma configuration files, while plasma is not running (from ~/.kde/share/config/) |
| 20:38.33 | cb400f | gets you right back to defaults |
| 20:39.42 | Lady_Aleena | So, reboot and go into the second item on the grub list? |
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| 20:41.19 | Lady_Aleena | I don't know how to turn off plasma. |
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| 20:49.01 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: logout from X, login to a text console, remove $KDEHOME/share/config. Look at and remove 'plasma*' |
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| 20:50.46 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: 'kde4-config --types' has interesting report |
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| 20:54.02 | Lady_Aleena | I see... (???) |
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| 21:03.17 | Lady_Aleena | If I log out from X, will that terminate all programs currently running? |
| 21:04.04 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: the ones running from X yes |
| 21:04.29 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: others no you need to shutdown or you can run kill -9 PID (find pid using ps auwx | less ) |
| 21:05.14 | Lady_Aleena | Is there an option called "text console" or do I have to guess? |
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| 21:16.27 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: the text konsole is the one you reach from the GUI login if you choose "recovery mode" or something (depends on GUI login). It shuld appear as a simple terminal window. |
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| 21:40.02 | Lady_Aleena | Just so I know what I will be looking at I tried to cd to $KDEHOME/share/config/ and I get no such file or directory. |
| 21:40.30 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: usually $KDEHOME is '~/.kde', and usually it is not set explicitly. |
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| 21:41.02 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: so look at '~/.kde/share/config/plasma*' |
| 21:42.41 | Lady_Aleena | I have plasma-desktop-appletsrc, plasma-desktoprc, and plasmarc. |
| 21:42.43 | Lady_Aleena | Those? |
| 21:43.01 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: yes, you can delete those. |
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| 21:43.13 | Lady_Aleena | When I rebtoot into root, right? |
| 21:43.34 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: don't reboot. You can *login* into root, or any other desktop environment. |
| 21:43.44 | Lady_Aleena | rebtoot? What are my fingers thinking? |
| 21:44.14 | Lady_Aleena | Walex, I just have the KDE desktop. |
| 21:44.46 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: you also surely have the "emergency"/"recovery" option at the GUI login... |
| 21:45.30 | Lady_Aleena | Yes...haven't used it yet. |
| 21:45.37 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: all that has to be achieved is that you remove those files while you are not running KDE as your user; can be KDE with a different user, or your user but not KDE. |
| 21:46.19 | Lady_Aleena | I don't want to confuse things by having more than one user on this computer. I'm having a hard enough time with just me. |
| 21:47.10 | Lady_Aleena | So the option 'Leave -> Log out' will take me back to grub? |
| 21:47.23 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: no, to the GUI login program. |
| 21:47.50 | Lady_Aleena | I tried logging in as root there once, it won't let me. |
| 21:48.08 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: that can be enabled, but is off by default. |
| 21:48.40 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: you can also login to the the Linux console, by switching virtual TTYs with 'Ctrl-Alt-F1' for example |
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| 21:49.33 | Lady_Aleena | Walex, the last went WAY over my head. |
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| 21:49.59 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: that however is a rather essential Linux thing to learn. |
| 21:50.18 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: look it up eventually. |
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| 22:05.33 | always-godlike | Hello all together. I switched to openSuSE 13.1 with KDE and I'm searching for an option to disable the "being-greyed" of minimized windows in the window bar. Any idea how to do this? I'm googling for hours... |
| 22:10.27 | cb400f | if there's no setting in the taskbar settings, it's prolly not configurable |
| 22:10.52 | cb400f | it might vary depending on the plasma theme used.. dunno |
| 22:11.00 | cb400f | or maybe the icon tasks tasbar doesn't do that |
| 22:12.11 | always-godlike | I tried the opensuse-default-theme and the air-theme, both have this issue |
| 22:12.51 | shumski | always-godlike: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311991 |
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| 22:17.14 | always-godlike | How couldn't I find this bug report? oO Thanks for your help. I did try to change this effect for disabled icons, but only for control-bar, not for the desktop. Works now, thx :) |
| 22:19.21 | shumski | i it is a 'known' issue with kde-workspace 4.10 and newer |
| 22:21.23 | always-godlike | Maybe I just didn't see the change when I tried it, because after changing the effect you also have to hover over the icons for becoming effective |
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| 22:43.59 | Lady_Aleena | Walex, it didn't work. I logged out, but couldn't get to a terminal from the log in screen. I rebooted into recovery mode, and when I navigated to ~/.kde/share/config/ the plasma files weren't on the list of files. So, do I delete them with this account then reboot to see if that works? |
| 22:47.29 | Lady_Aleena | just tried something else, rebooting. |
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