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00:46.41paxcoderwhat algo is behind kdiff3?
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00:47.21paxcoderactually, what tool (back-end if you will)?
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00:53.02magyarhi, how can I enable policy kit in System Settings panel?
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01:11.25Scunizihopefully someone will be awake :).. Dolphin has just started freezing on me. If I start it from cli the 1st output line is "dolphin(5478) kxmlgui::actionlist::plug: Index 19 is not within range (0-11"  then QPixmap::scaled" Pixmap is a null pixmap. This is right after opening it.  How do I fix it?
01:12.23thiagoif you did open, the file was corrupted, unknown format or otherwise the reading failed
01:12.34thiagoor you didn't save the contents you read properly
01:13.49Scunizithiago: it really started freezing hard after opening when I moved a jpg from one folder to another.  It left a shadow of the image in the original directory.  Is there a way to clear the 'cache' or whatever dolphin uses?
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01:15.38thiagooh, sorry, I think I've been answering inadequately
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01:15.51thiagoI answered for a different channel
01:16.14thiagoare you talking about your own files? Or were you messing around with Dolphin's own files?
01:16.52ScuniziMy own files.. one instance of dolphin using split screen and moving jpg's from one side to the other.
01:17.14thiagohmm
01:17.22thiagolooks like the xmlgui settings somehow got screwed up
01:17.44thiagotry moving ~/.kde/share/apps/dolphin/dolphinui.rc away
01:17.54Scuniziok.. or just renaming it
01:17.57thiagoyes
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01:21.03Scunizigot it moved to *_backup.. dolphin just opened .. and took almost 15 seconds. It opened using the full monitor so I double clicked the topbar (making it a smaller window) and dragged it to the monitor on the right.  Then opened full monitor again. It's frozen.
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01:21.58thiagohmm
01:21.59thiagoweird
01:22.18ScuniziI terminated it.  Now restarting using cli.. first line reports "QPixmap::scaled: Pixmap is a null pixmap"
01:22.34ScuniziFrozen again..
01:22.49thiagoI'm sorry
01:23.00Scunizino idea ?
01:23.22thiagono
01:24.00Scuniziok thanks.  I'll see how my google-fu is working tonight.
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02:50.27juancarlospacohello does Karbon has python api to generate SVG headless without running the GUI ???
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06:58.56sol0hello
06:59.09sol0can some please point me to the channel for help on KIO?
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07:02.42sol0I am unable to mount my lumia phone using kio-mtp
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07:16.50n8wis there any way how to force the notification widget to remove old notifications?
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08:14.32flingHow may I use unar as arK backend?
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08:42.18Basstard`What solutions are there to control CPU frequency?
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09:08.47kylebofhGood morning people
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09:15.17draglyHi! Is there any way to open a new Kate session on the same desktop when there is an already running Kate session on a different desktop (and open in the existing session when on the same desktop)?
09:16.43draglyOk, I didn't phrase that very well. I meant to say that if I have Kate running on a different desktop, I would like to open a new session. If I have kate running on the current desktop, I would like to reuse that session. Is this possible?
09:18.51kylebofhAnybody here has experience configuring S/MIME with smartcard in KMail?
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09:21.48kylebofhdragly: do you mean i.e. that you are remotely accessing the system from diferent hosts with the same user, don't you?
09:22.00kylebofhOr a local session and a remote one.
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09:23.52kylebofhI see, when you exec two kates it opens in two different windows, you would like to open a new tab insted, don't you?
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10:05.43BluesKaj'Morning folks
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10:31.36rindolfHi BluesKaj
10:31.39rindolfBluesKaj: what's up?
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10:34.23BluesKajHey rindolf , just set up VB with W7 as guest , with guest additions , the transition between OSs is quite seamless
10:34.49BluesKajneed more RAM I think
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10:35.47BluesKajbut performance is acceptable , just not as fast as I'd like
10:35.47rindolfBluesKaj: VB == VirtualBox?
10:35.51BluesKajyes
10:36.00rindolfBluesKaj: OK, I thought it was Visual Basic. ;-P
10:36.06BluesKaj:)
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10:36.22rindolfBluesKaj: but nice - I like VirtualBox.
10:36.29BluesKajyeah , it
10:37.10BluesKajhas come a long way in usability since I tried it last
10:38.04BluesKajovercomes my inability to setup vpn clients in linux
10:39.24BluesKajand it keeps me up to date with my friends who mostly run W7
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10:49.20rindolfBluesKaj: nice.
10:49.32rindolfBluesKaj: I've played today's http://binarypuzzle.com/ .
10:50.12rindolfBluesKaj: and was able to reproduce an effect in Inkscape.
10:50.19rindolfBluesKaj: though it requires some tweaking.
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11:12.19cnfhi, can anyone tell me how to disable ctrl+scrolling zooming please?
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11:16.19rumerstHello! Does anyone know why I cant install new widgets with my main user? I just made a new user which I can do it perfectly, but my configured and costumized main user I can not.
11:18.51cnfhmz, damnit, why can't i disable this shortcut :/
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11:19.33rumerstcnf: which shortcut?
11:20.02cnfrumerst: ctrl-scroll for zooming
11:21.00rumerstcnf: but is it working even for ur desktop, or just when u are using some app?
11:21.25cnfuhm? desktop?
11:21.42cnfit zooms the text size in any app
11:21.54cnfreally anoying
11:22.56BluesKaj!u > rumerst
11:23.24BluesKaj!u>rumerst
11:23.33BluesKajhmm
11:23.47rumerstcnf: u already checked the standard shortcuts, and nothing?
11:23.56rumerstBluesKaj: sorry?
11:23.58BluesKajno factoids here , I keep forgetting
11:24.07cnfyeah, i can't find anything in there that represents what i am looking for
11:25.17BluesKaju isn't an acceptable word , for you in most frenode chats , pleas use rela english for our non nati=ve english speaking friends
11:25.33BluesKajreal eanglish :)
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11:26.08rumerstBluesKaj: oh, sorry
11:26.14cnfORL? use it NAO!
11:28.35cnfhmz, where the heck is this thing configures o,O
11:28.57BluesKajexamines the keyboard ...new batteries , so there shouldn't be dropouts
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11:29.51rumerstcnf: hey maybe this config isnt from kde. It is from each app
11:30.51rumerstcnf: if you want to change for firefox: http://duntuk.com/disable-scroll-wheel-zoom-firefox
11:31.01cnfi don't use firefox
11:31.06cnfand _every_ app has it
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11:32.14cnfthough chrome and Konsole are the ones that piss me off most
11:32.37rumerstcnf: but can I ask why you think its so anoying? I mean, if you just dont press ctrl, you can scroll it normally...
11:32.52cnfi use control ALL the time
11:32.57cnffor a lot of other things
11:33.13cnfif i happen to hit the touchpad at the wrong time, it messes things up
11:33.18cnfhappens several times an hour
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11:33.40rumerstcnf: for chrome and google apps you can also download the AutoHotKey and choose to do nothing while pressing ctrl+scroll
11:34.00rumerstcnf: uhm, understood
11:34.50rumerstcnf: there is a discussion about chrome here: http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/chrome/-rtDLZmN9bk/5pJYksjrvQUJ
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11:35.21cnfyes, as it says, it's not chrome that is doing it
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11:38.26rumerst=/
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11:41.07rumerstDoes anyone know why I cant install new widgets with my main user? I just made a new user which I can do it perfectly, but my configured and costumized main user I can not.
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12:10.10rumersthey guys, can anyone help me with widgets installation?
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12:14.43rdieterrumerst: can you start with what you try (exactly, step by step), and what happens or doesnt work?
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12:15.51rdieteradditional details help if possible:  distro, kde version, which widgets specifically
12:15.54rumerstrdieter: yes! The point is I cant install new widgets as my main user. When I try to do that, it seems to work fine, and appears me "installed" in the button.
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12:16.35rumerstrdieter: but when I search for that between my widgets I cant find it. And then I try to look for it in the installed again, and there is nothing anymore.
12:17.19rumerstrdieter: And I made a new user just to try this as well, and it has worked perfectly.
12:17.45rumerstrdieter: I'm using ubuntu 12.04. kde 4
12:18.20rdieterkde4-config --kde-version
12:18.29rdietershould give more than just "4" :)
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12:18.47rdieterand which widgets?  (I'd like to try to reproduce the problem, if possible)
12:18.54rumerstrdieter: 4.10.3
12:19.13rumerstrdieter: any widgets I tried.
12:19.15rdietermay also be worth inspecting ~/.xsession-errors for clues
12:19.24rdieter"any" => name one please. :)
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12:21.01rumerstyes I just found an error there. X Error: BadPixmap (invalid Pixmap parameter) 4
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12:21.20rdieterthat one is (mostly) harmless
12:21.34rumerstand X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 as well
12:21.37rdieteranything else?   particularly, anything that mentions plasma?
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12:24.52rumerstnot that I found
12:24.59rumerstIm gonna try to pastebin ok?
12:26.10rumersthere: http://pastebin.com/VSdj6LUp
12:28.00rumerstrdieter: maybe its important to know that I had a crash recently and I had to backup and reconfigure ~/.kde
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12:29.24draglykylebofh: Sorry for replying so late. What my actual problem is, is that when I open a text file on for instance desktop 4, KDE will automatically switch to for instance, desktop 2, if Kate is already open there.
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12:29.43draglyThe text file will then be opened in a new tab, but I would rather have it open a completely new window on Desktop 4.
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12:31.30draglyCurrently I will have to open Kate on Desktop 4 from the launcher first, and then open the text file. I was just wondering if it was possible to open a new window when on a different desktop than the current running instance.
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12:35.30rumerstrdieter: did it help?
12:38.49rdieterrumerst: i see nothing obvious, but I would suspect your 'restore ~/.kde' operation may have something to do with it
12:39.40rumerstrdieter: yes, me too. I actually found this line: Plasma::isPluginVersionCompatible: unversioned plugin detected, may result in instability
12:39.57rumerstit might be the problem, no?
12:40.14rdieterrumerst: if anything, may be worth resetting just your plasma configuration  (kquitapp plasma-desktop; rename/delete/backup anything matching ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ; plasma-desktop)  , and see if that helps
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12:41.01rumerstrdieter: ok, I'll try it!
12:41.03rumerstthanks
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13:02.58zenguy_pcSho_:  hi.. i have the yakuake source
13:03.10zenguy_pcis the patch ready?
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13:04.01Sho_zenguy_pc: did you build it?
13:04.44zenguy_pci thought i was suppose to have the patch beforehand.. i only patched something ocne and that was years ago so I was mistaken
13:04.47zenguy_pcwill do now
13:05.30Sho_zenguy_pc: yes you'll need to /rebuild/ it once you've patched it, but my beef is that I'd like you to work out all the steps beforehand so I know I won't be wasting my time writing the patch because it turns out you can't use it :-)
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13:05.59zenguy_pcSho_:  ok, i understand
13:07.19zenguy_pcis this ok? : cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local/bin ../
13:07.56rdieterzenguy_pc: you probably just want ...PREFIX=/usr/local (leave off /bin from the end)
13:08.06zenguy_pcok
13:08.31Sho_zenguy_pc: (from within the source dir) mkdir build; cd build; cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local ../ (assuming you want to install to /usr/local)
13:09.00zenguy_pcagh ! No cmake_minimum_required command is present.  A line of code such as
13:09.01zenguy_pc<PROTECTED>
13:09.01zenguy_pc<PROTECTED>
13:09.10Sho_harmless warning
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13:09.28zenguy_pc-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
13:09.43Sho_so check the output for the error :)
13:09.47Sho_(the above isn't it)
13:09.56zenguy_pcok
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13:10.51zenguy_pccmakeoutput.log ?
13:11.46Sho_zenguy_pc: just the terminal output
13:13.28zenguy_pchttp://pastie.org/7983641
13:15.06Sho_zenguy_pc: ok so what distro are you on?
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13:17.38zenguy_pcpclinuxos
13:18.05zenguy_pc4.10.1
13:18.15Sho_zenguy_pc: ok I don't know pclinuxos at all sadly, but basically you need to install some development packages so you can build kde apps
13:18.25zenguy_pcok
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13:18.35Sho_on my distro, fedora, i know a command that can be used to install all build dependencies of <something> with one command
13:18.46Sho_pclinuxos might have a similar command, but i don't know that distro
13:18.49zenguy_pccare to share?
13:18.51Sho_so you probably have to ask around
13:18.58zenguy_pci'v4e compiled several stuff before
13:19.05Sho_on fedora it's yum-builddep yakuake
13:19.16Sho_I think apt on Debian has a similar command
13:19.53BluesKajapt-build ? ...never used it myself
13:21.40Sho_zenguy_pc: but fwiw, you need dev packages for kdelibs, qt (so probably package names like kdelibs-dev or so) and a c++ compiler (gcc-c++)
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13:23.21kylebofhTill tomorrow dudes
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13:29.23blaaathe KIO for UPnP is not working for me (I have built https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=kio-upnp-ms-git which has most votes and is most recent). I have changed the qt dependency to qt4, but there were no apparent issues while building.
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13:29.41blaaaWHen supplied with the service UUID, dolphin states 'Loading folder' for a while, then failing with 'The process for the upnp-ms://[uuid] protocol died unexpectedly.'
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13:39.05zenguy_pcSho_:  kdelibs-devel installed and the cmake command ran successfully.. i'm running 'make' now.. could you clarify the use of kdelibs development filesi n your readme ?
13:40.30Sho_zenguy_pc: the build process requires those development files to be able to compile the source code; a more detailled technical explanation would take a while
13:40.43Sho_zenguy_pc: the wikipedia article for "header file" if there is one might be a good read
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13:46.29zenguy_pcok make finished successfully
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14:01.55zenguy_pcSho_:  whats next?
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14:03.04Sho_zenguy_pc: "make install" and seeing whether you can run your self-built version
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14:12.13zenguy_pcwhereis yakuake
14:12.13zenguy_pcyakuake: /usr/bin/yakuake /usr/local/bin/yakuake
14:12.17zenguy_pcSho_:  both worked
14:12.35Sho_zenguy_pc: what does "which yakuake" output?
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14:30.58Sho_zenguy_pc: then you should probably uninstall the pclinucos version of yakuake because it appears /usr/bin comes before /usr/local/bin in your PATH and so the system version will take precedence if you just run "yakuake" or use the menu entry
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14:31.25zenguy_pci have to restart my pc .. can't get plasma--desktop top start back up
14:32.02Sho_ok, tell me when you're back so i can ask you some questions about the patch
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15:00.32zenguy_pcSho_:  i'm back
15:00.53Sho_zenguy_pc: alright
15:01.07Sho_zenguy_pc: ok so if i remember right you wanted open on top screen edge and close on bottom edge?
15:01.34zenguy_pcyes
15:02.30Sho_zenguy_pc: did you download the 2.8 sources or git master?
15:02.32zenguy_pcit hot corners possible?
15:02.41zenguy_pcsources
15:02.57zenguy_pc2.9.9
15:03.17zenguy_pcthat was from last week though
15:03.29Sho_err yeah 2.9.9, dunno where i got 2.8 from there
15:04.00Sho_re corners: don't have the time for that sorry, it'd probably need more work to be nice than just the edge thing
15:04.32zenguy_pcok  :)
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15:07.44zenguy_pci need to copy a 65Gb file from one external usb 2.0 drive to another usb 2.0 drive .. kde init seems to use alot of cpu.. would using the command line be faster.?. i'd like a progress bar though
15:08.00zenguy_pcETA and maybe MBps
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15:10.07Tiamisu1993hello, I want to help debug, could anyone tell me where to start?
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15:13.19Tiamisu1993Hello?
15:13.49zenguy_pcTiamisu1993:  http://techbase.kde.org/Development/FAQs/Debugging_FAQ
15:14.22zenguy_pchttp://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging     http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Debugging/How_to_create_useful_crash_reports
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15:15.49Tiamisu1993Thanks a lot
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15:17.14Sho_zenguy_pc: http://paste.kde.org/753800/
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15:21.33zenguy_pcok so,  patch /usr/local/bin/yakuake ~/bin/yakuake-retract.patch    ?
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15:21.56Sho_no
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15:23.22Sho_zenguy_pc: patches are for source code, not for compiled binaries. go to the source folder, then run: patch -p1 < /path/to/patchfile
15:23.35Sho_then go to your build folder and make install again
15:23.35zenguy_pcok
15:23.46zenguy_pccmake then make?
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15:24.15Sho_zenguy_pc: only "make install"  will be enough (cmake doesn't need to be re-run, and "make install" is smart enough to notice the source has changed and will make implicitly)
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15:28.50zenguy_pcok, it's taking a while
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15:29.59zenguy_pci commented your instructions into the patch for future use .. do you think you'll be added it as a feature at some point in the future?
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15:33.37camulusi am very angry. my distro is forcing me into compiling callgira with semantic-desktop and nepomuk
15:34.07zenguy_pcis that the word processor???
15:34.16rdieterthey are so mean.
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15:35.24Sho_zenguy_pc: No right now I don't expect to add it as a feature sorry
15:36.42zenguy_pcok .. great software either way!
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16:52.38willybilly0101hello. is there any way to make device notifyer widget to issue a 'hdparm -fS 1 <device>' after umounting? Unfortunatelly it does not spins down hdd external drivers
16:52.44willybilly0101and I'm not sure that is safe
16:53.09willybilly0101KDE4 / Arch Linux
16:53.17zenguy_pcSho_: the patch is still running
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16:54.19zenguy_pcSho_:  i just grabbed it with git and ran cmake thean ran the patch again.. now i have two simultaneous  patches running
16:55.02zenguy_pcpatch -p1 ~/code/yakuake-retract.patch       i ran it inside the build directory
16:55.48Sho_zenguy_pc: you didn't type the command as I gave it to you (including the "<")
16:55.57Sho_this takes microseconds to run, not hours ;)
16:56.58zenguy_pcargh .. i see now
16:57.41zenguy_pcfile to patch :  ..... press enter?
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16:59.48zenguy_pcpatch -p1 < ~/code/yakuake-retract.patch
16:59.48zenguy_pc(Stripping trailing CRs from patch.)
16:59.48zenguy_pccan't find file to patch at input line 5
16:59.48zenguy_pcPerhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
16:59.48zenguy_pcThe text leading up to this was:
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16:59.50zenguy_pc|diff --git a/app/mainwindow.cpp b/app/mainwindow.cpp
16:59.52zenguy_pc|index 3f51911..27793c1 100644
16:59.54zenguy_pc|--- a/app/mainwindow.cpp
16:59.56zenguy_pc|+++ b/app/mainwindow.cpp
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17:00.35Sho_zenguy_pc: make sure you run it from within the source dir, and please don't paste that many lines here again
17:01.40zenguy_pcok ..
17:02.59willybilly0101or at least where can I find the script for the widget so I will try to change it?
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17:15.35zenguy_pcSho_:  i compiled and installed it.. restarted the application . do i have to go to the settings to turn it on?
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17:16.32Sho_zenguy_pc: you need to enable the "open when the mouse pointer hits the top edge" option, yes
17:18.11zenguy_pcSho_:  i had that setting.. i just unchecked it , hit apply .. checked it again and hit apply .. move the pointer to the bottom of the screen and it didn't retract
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17:20.05Sho_zenguy_pc: Make sure you followed my recommendation to uninstall the PCLinuxOS version of Yakuake since it came first in your PATH
17:21.04zenguy_pcaahh.. ok.. sorry about the confusion.. can't believe i'm messing up so obviously
17:24.08bepebeI can't get my phone to automount, USB Thumb Drives mount automatically fine. Here is my dmesg output, http://pastebin.com/pcMQ6hht
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17:27.02zenguy_pcSho_:  HAHA it works! .. oddly enough it works  to open and retract whether the box is checked or not
17:27.32Sho_zenguy_pc: possible i screwed that part up or so
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17:27.48zenguy_pcno biggie
17:27.53Sho_zenguy_pc: actually, the part i screwed up is that disabling the box won't turn it off again :)
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17:28.08Sho_zenguy_pc: if you actually wanted to turn it off, just restart afteru nchecking
17:28.17Sho_*after unchecking
17:28.50Sho_it was a quick patch, not much testing and stuff
17:30.39zenguy_pcthanks for all your help!
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17:43.37Hades8085671Hi, there. I use Kubuntu 13.04 with KDE 4.10.2. After the latest distribution upgrade, the compositing type changed to XRender, and is not possible to revert it back to OpenGL. My graphics card is a NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS with nvidia-313 drivers. I've searched the web, but none of the solutions, worked in my case. Can someone help me? (I've already tried deleting my KDE configuration or setting the KWIN_COMPOSE variable, with no result)
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17:50.24BluesKajHades8085671, do you have mesa-utils installed ?
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17:52.36Hades8085671yes I dp
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17:52.39Hades8085671yes I do
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17:52.55BluesKajHades8085671,  I have the same card installed and I'm using the 319 driver ,
17:53.23Hades8085671do you use nvidia ppa?
17:53.29BluesKajis it available to you in additional drivers?
17:53.52Hades8085671I don't think so, wait a sec
17:54.53Hades8085671no it's not
17:55.21Hades8085671if that solved your problem, I will use nvidia ppa
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17:58.39Hades8085671it's available in ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
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18:03.18BluesKajhmm, it's availble for 13.10 (testing), odd that's not in the repos for 13.04 , I'm quite sure my 13.04 uses the 319 , but I can't check atm
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18:09.49bepebehow can I start dolphin as root?
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18:10.06thiagoas root, type: dolphin
18:10.09Phr33d0mbepebe alt+f2 --> kdesu dolphin
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18:10.18thiagothat works too
18:10.27BluesKajkdesudo
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18:10.39BluesKajdepends on the distro
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18:11.34thiagokdesu -c dolphin
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18:14.38shevyany progress for kde on qt5?
18:14.51thiagoyes
18:15.00thiagoprogress has been made steadily for a year now
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19:06.59lord_robHi! I often have problems with USB eject command in KDE: if I don't issue sync command before pressing the eject button, my data are usually not written on the device ...
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19:41.24rdieterlord_rob: use 'eject' instad of 'sync'
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19:42.08rdieterlord_rob: though... at least for devices that support it, they will refused to eject if in use or mounted
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