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03:45.37 | alusion | guys, I love KDE so much |
03:45.42 | alusion | but lately on my ubuntu machine |
03:45.47 | alusion | It's been highly unstable |
03:45.59 | alusion | How can I send more effective bug reports when my system goes kaputt |
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05:35.11 | Ramchandra_Apte | Where can I ask KDE dev questions? |
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05:37.36 | Sho_ | Ramchandra_Apte: #kde-devel |
05:37.43 | Ramchandra_Apte | Sho_: thanks |
05:37.56 | Sho_ | yw |
05:38.56 | totem | stupid question; how to copy icons application to taskbar? please. (i'm a gnome veteran) |
05:39.24 | Ramchandra_Apte | totem: what do you mean exactly? |
05:39.38 | Sho_ | totem: usually by navigating to them in the menu, right-clicking and pressing "Add to Panel" |
05:39.39 | Ramchandra_Apte | totem: well to add an icon to the taskbar, drag the icon to the taskbar. |
05:40.04 | totem | Ramchandra_Apte, i need more icons in my taskbar |
05:40.05 | Ramchandra_Apte | (one can even add URLs) |
05:40.10 | totem | lemme check |
05:40.50 | totem | eurika eurika |
05:41.06 | totem | wait, but not in the left. drag it? |
05:43.22 | totem | Ramchandra_Apte, how to move the icons? no drag required |
05:44.08 | Ramchandra_Apte | totem: try pressing the plasma logo at the right (it looks like a foot) and then dragging the icon |
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06:01.39 | joako | How do I add a program to the quick start on the taskbar? |
06:02.25 | Ramchandra_Apte | joako: drag the program icon in kickstart to the taskbar |
06:02.28 | Ramchandra_Apte | (DISC |
06:04.13 | joako | Ramchandra_Apte: Now when I do that and click it, a second icon shows up when I run the program. How can I disable that? |
06:04.45 | Ramchandra_Apte | joako: do you want a icon task manager (like windoz 7 or unity)? |
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06:05.35 | joako | Ramchandra_Apte: I want an icon like the default dolphin icon. I was able to add it by dragging but when I click it and the program is running a 2nd icon shows up next to the clock |
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07:03.14 | cjae | is kde 4.9 backported for 12.04 yet? |
07:03.38 | cjae | oops wrong channel |
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08:15.00 | Miscni | hi all |
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09:13.59 | CosmicB | I can't find any 'download messages for offline bla bla bla' for imap in kmail ... I'd like kmail to download all my imap stuff to local disk, it kind of annoys me to wait for kmail to download mail in folders with lots of mail. Does kmail support that ? I haven't found any 'knob' to switch on regarding that |
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09:15.56 | CosmicB | hmm, might be 'folder -> properties -> retrieval -> always retrieve full messages' trying that |
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09:19.39 | Peace- | i have a problem with rc 3 |
09:19.43 | Peace- | and the menu |
09:19.59 | Peace- | before files that i have created here /home/sem/.kde/share/applications/kde4/ |
09:20.06 | Peace- | was readed by system |
09:20.08 | Peace- | now they are not |
09:20.16 | Peace- | i mean i have not the entry in the menu |
09:20.29 | Peace- | with 4.8 worked |
09:23.03 | skramer_ | how can I make kwallet open on top of the program it wants to access? I open a website in rekonq, kwallet asking if I allow it to fill the form. But the kwallet window does not appear on top of rekonq, but behind it... |
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09:23.37 | Peace- | skramer_: type in konsone kwa then press TAB |
09:23.41 | Peace- | AH |
09:23.43 | Peace- | :d |
09:23.56 | Peace- | konsole |
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09:25.18 | skramer_ | Peace-: but I don´t think this would help solve my problem, would it? |
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09:25.32 | Peace- | skramer_: kwalletmanager |
09:25.45 | Peace- | skramer_: try is not die |
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09:31.10 | skramer_ | To make it more clear, I want the window shown on this screenshot http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/23/Screen1.png to open on top of rekonq, not behind the rekonq window... |
09:31.18 | Taoki | Hi. In KDE 4.8.5, there was an error causing Gwenview to be unable to open some images (and generate thumbnails for them) with a message saying "metadata loading failed" or something like that. I heard that was fixed in 4.9, but I have KDE 4.9.5 and still get this problem. Anyone know why? |
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09:31.54 | Taoki | Sorry, it's "loading meta information failed" |
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09:32.01 | Peace- | skramer_: ah sorry i readed bad |
09:32.11 | Peace- | skramer_: mmm for that maybe some kwin tweak |
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09:32.40 | skramer_ | Peace-: no problem :-) |
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09:33.35 | Peace- | skramer_: here system settings window behavior http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/23/plasma-desktopXm2105.png |
09:33.42 | Peace- | skramer_: i guess you need to do that stuff |
09:33.57 | Peace- | not pretty sure btw |
09:35.09 | skramer_ | Peace-: actually I already tried to change the window´s settings there. But it seems they are not stored, so each time I try again, the kwallet window still opens behind rekonq & the settings I did are lost... |
09:35.30 | Peace- | skramer_: mmm let me try |
09:36.05 | Peace- | skramer_: did you dected the window ? |
09:36.11 | Peace- | detected |
09:37.14 | Peace- | skramer_: btw i use kwallet but i choose allow always |
09:37.16 | Peace- | :O |
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09:39.38 | skramer_ | Peace-: what you mean by "detect the window"? |
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09:40.56 | Peace- | skramer_: look http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/23/plasma-desktopWI2105.png |
09:41.33 | Peace- | skramer_: detect window proprietes |
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09:42.09 | Peace- | skramer_: properties |
09:44.12 | skramer_ | Peace-: does not seem to have an effect... |
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09:46.06 | Peace- | skramer_: dunno |
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09:48.00 | skramer_ | Peace-: what confuses me now is: in system settings I see the values I changed. But if I right-click the kwallet window directly, an go to "special settings for this window" th changes are not shown... |
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09:52.03 | Peace- | skramer_: dunno man sorry i don't use very often that stuff |
09:52.26 | skramer_ | Peace-: I see, will keep tryin ;-) |
09:52.39 | skramer_ | Peace-: thank you, man! |
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09:59.16 | skramer_ | Peace-: hehe, I finally got it! Same settings as you suggest / I tried before. But now it works :-) Thank you again! |
10:00.46 | Peace- | skramer_: good |
10:01.35 | Peace- | skramer_: have you a scanner ? |
10:01.51 | skramer_ | Peace-: yes, I do have |
10:02.10 | Peace- | skramer_: hp ? |
10:02.24 | skramer_ | Peace-: no, Mustek |
10:02.41 | Peace- | skramer_: i did a service menu for dolphin to acquire from scanner |
10:02.52 | Peace- | skramer_: would you test it? |
10:03.08 | Peace- | skramer_: you have not to say yes :P |
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10:03.56 | skramer_ | Peace-: would it also be able to work over LAN? because the scanner is connected to my other computer that´s not running kubuntu... |
10:04.12 | Peace- | skramer_: it should but i am not sure |
10:04.31 | skramer_ | Peace-: so we shall give it a try ;-) |
10:04.32 | Peace- | skramer_: skramer_: you need to install imagemagick sane-utils |
10:04.47 | Peace- | skramer_: skramer_: you need to install imagemagick sane-utils perl |
10:05.03 | Peace- | skramer_: then cd /tmp/; wget http://kde-peace-settings.googlecode.com/files/kde-service-menu-peace-scanner_0.5.0.tar.gz ; servicemenuinstallation kde-service-menu-peace-scanner*.tar.gz |
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10:06.11 | Peace- | skramer_: on dolphin => right click in empty folder => actions => acquire from scanner |
10:07.37 | skramer_ | Peace-: do I need ruby for the servicemenuinsallation? |
10:07.43 | Peace- | yes |
10:07.55 | Peace- | on kubuntu there is a bug on the debian package |
10:08.01 | Peace- | that doesn't install ruby |
10:08.14 | Peace- | so servicemenuinstallation doens't work |
10:08.37 | Peace- | and btw installin ruby you will be able to install service menu properly form dolphin setttings |
10:09.06 | skramer_ | Peace-: so let´s install ruby first... |
10:09.37 | Peace- | skramer_: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/23/plasma-desktopum2105.png |
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10:11.01 | Peace- | skramer_: the service menu will work if scanimage -L gives you something |
10:11.18 | Peace- | skramer_: if scanimage -L will not you will not be able to use it |
10:11.55 | Peace- | so i guess you should install sane-utils |
10:12.00 | Peace- | skramer_: btw i use kubuntu too |
10:12.52 | skramer_ | Peace-: local installation or system wide installation? what´s the difference? the 1st installs only for m user, while 2nd is for all people on that machine?? |
10:13.21 | Peace- | skramer_: local |
10:13.29 | Peace- | skramer_: sure |
10:15.04 | Peace- | mm i could upgrade the installer removing wide |
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10:16.17 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
10:16.57 | skramer_ | Peace-: works great |
10:17.13 | Peace- | skramer_: got an image ? do you see it well ? |
10:17.23 | Peace- | skramer_: please scanner model :P |
10:18.09 | skramer_ | http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/23/NewScannerDocument.jpeg |
10:18.18 | Peace- | skramer_: good |
10:18.31 | skramer_ | the scanner is a Mustek 1248UB |
10:18.58 | Peace- | skramer_: options was printed well ? |
10:19.05 | Peace- | i mean color gray etc ? |
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10:20.10 | Peace- | skramer_: anyway tx for testing it |
10:20.24 | skramer_ | Peace-: yes, it worked well. |
10:21.18 | skramer_ | Peace-: I just wonder you could use radiobuttons rather than having me to write "Gray"or whatever.. |
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10:22.10 | Peace- | skramer_: well because of scannerimage doens't print everytime the same stuff for each scanner i had to use that mode |
10:22.17 | Peace- | skramer_: it's safer |
10:22.52 | Peace- | sometimes infacts it prints options in this way Gray|Color|etc |
10:23.04 | skramer_ | Peace-: ok, I don´t have knowledge about that.. |
10:23.53 | skramer_ | Peace-: but now it seems that it only worked one time, I can´t get a second image... |
10:24.06 | Peace- | skramer_: mm |
10:24.21 | Peace- | skramer_: you should receive notifications |
10:24.34 | Peace- | on that notifications you should read the command was runned |
10:24.55 | skramer_ | Peace-: yes, I get the notifications, but the scanner does not do anything now... |
10:25.26 | Peace- | skramer_: read the notification |
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10:26.04 | Peace- | skramer_: you can copy and paste in terminal |
10:26.44 | Peace- | skramer_: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/01/23/plasma-desktopoD2105.png |
10:27.15 | Peace- | skramer_: they are 2 command one acquire the second converts |
10:27.35 | skramer_ | Peace-: yes, I got that notification |
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10:34.35 | skramer_ | Peace-: the problem might be the settings I selected... now I can´t detect the scanner through scanimage -L |
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10:34.55 | Peace- | skramer_: mmm so it will not work |
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10:35.30 | Peace- | skramer_: scanimage detects the scanner with -L option only the first time |
10:36.25 | skramer_ | Peace-: I deleted the stored settings & started again just to find out that the scanne |
10:36.40 | skramer_ | Peace-: r is not detected anymore... |
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10:38.28 | Peace- | skramer_: well i dunno what you did |
10:38.47 | Peace- | it seems it's not plugged \ installed correctly |
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10:39.13 | Peace- | skramer_: i mean it' s a program based on scanimage |
10:39.26 | Peace- | scanimage fails => service menu will fail too |
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10:42.34 | skramer_ | Peace-: I removed the scanner now & plugged in again -> new test ;-) |
10:43.13 | Peace- | skramer_: it could be not well supported :/ |
10:46.27 | skramer_ | Peace-: should the A4 size be 210 instead of 215? |
10:47.16 | skramer_ | Peace-: and you should add PDF as output format ;-) |
10:48.50 | Peace- | skramer_: mm i think it should be correct what you get in the script |
10:48.55 | Peace- | but check on wikipedia |
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10:51.28 | skramer_ | Peace-: ok, so now with different settings I managed to scan a second page without problem :-) |
10:51.54 | Peace- | skramer_: :) |
10:52.35 | skramer_ | Peace-: I guess the problem I had before is related to my scanner & your program is working well |
10:53.21 | Peace- | skramer_: you can get all the settings with this scanimage -A |
10:53.35 | Peace- | of course i used only the basics |
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11:07.25 | skramer_ | Peace-: I have translated your app to german language. how do I send you the modified .desktop file? |
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11:11.37 | tosky | skramer_: please contact the translation team for your language |
11:12.31 | tosky | skramer_: translation teams make sure that the translations are consistent and establish translation guidelines for the respective languages |
11:12.57 | tosky | skramer_: more information here: http://l10n.kde.org/, the team pages can be reached from http://l10n.kde.org/teams-list.php |
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11:13.54 | tosky | this is for programs already published on the KDE infrastructure, of course |
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11:25.41 | Peace- | skramer_: mmm mail ? |
11:25.52 | Peace- | skramer_: nowardev@gmail.com |
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11:26.48 | Peace- | tosky: it's a service menu that i just did |
11:26.55 | tosky | Peace-: ah, ok : |
11:26.57 | tosky | :) |
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11:27.28 | Peace- | tosky: btw i should check even the english language cuz i am not sure that is written well :D |
11:34.29 | skramer_ | Peace-: I sent you the file now, english seemed okay except that I would write "Aquire from Scanner" instead of "Acquire with Scanner"... |
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12:11.29 | Peace- | skramer_: Menü Einstellungen auf is correct? |
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12:14.04 | skramer_ | Peace-: in which context? |
12:14.38 | Peace- | skramer_: i ahve changed a line in the desktop file |
12:14.53 | Peace- | skramer_: Name=Settings Service Menu |
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12:16.00 | skramer_ | Peace-: changesettings? |
12:17.02 | Peace- | skramer_: i guess i will replace with only SETTINGS |
12:17.07 | Peace- | :) |
12:17.14 | skramer_ | Peace-: I would just say Einstellungen in German |
12:17.37 | skramer_ | Peace-: that would be much better then :) |
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12:18.02 | Peace- | ok done even in your language |
12:18.38 | skramer_ | :D |
12:19.45 | Peace- | skramer_: http://code.google.com/p/kde-peace-settings/source/browse/#git%2Fkde-services-menu |
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12:27.20 | skramer_ | Peace-: still, I would like to have the choice between saving as image or as PDF. maybe in next version? ;-) |
12:27.57 | Peace- | skramer_: let me try with convert |
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12:28.48 | Peace- | skramer_: mm it seems it works |
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12:33.50 | Peace- | skramer_: uploading |
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12:34.04 | Peace- | skramer_: here it is http://kde-peace-settings.googlecode.com/files/kde-services-menu-0.0.1.tar.gz |
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13:29.19 | loki42 | Hi, have some problems with the 4.10 beta: i could not add any widgets, because of missing attribute erros in org.kde.desktop.widgetexplorer/contents/ui/main.qml, anyone else with this problem? |
13:32.59 | ZenGuy311 | Peace-: any chance you could add screenshots for your Plasma panels- collections .. p.s you have it spelled incorrectly "Plama-Panels-Collection" when it should be "Plasma-Panel-Collection" |
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13:34.02 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: screenshot where ? you mean on google code? |
13:34.17 | ZenGuy311 | yes.. screenshot of the panels |
13:34.20 | ZenGuy311 | please |
13:34.26 | Peace- | ah.... boring :D |
13:34.37 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: there is a video btw on youtube |
13:34.40 | ZenGuy311 | i'm a visual person |
13:34.45 | ZenGuy311 | link? |
13:35.11 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWNkHOA56O4 |
13:35.23 | ZenGuy311 | the homepage is sparse.. i had to go to the source to see the readme which is somethign i don't usually do since i'm nto a programmer |
13:35.28 | ZenGuy311 | thanks |
13:37.37 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: btw there is on kde apps http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Plasma+Panels+Collections?content=155726 |
13:37.44 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: i guess it's the best i can do it |
13:37.49 | Peace- | it/now |
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13:42.03 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: and the you said is spelled bad but there are mor than a panel so i guess panels is correct but english is not my laanguage |
13:42.05 | Peace- | so.. |
13:42.51 | ZenGuy311 | i was talking about "Plasma" |
13:43.23 | ZenGuy311 | oh didn't know it was on kde apps .. i was looking at the google code page |
13:43.29 | ZenGuy311 | nice video |
13:43.38 | ZenGuy311 | nice desktop |
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14:04.46 | Peace- | ZenGuy311: wallpaper made by me :D |
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15:07.11 | clad | Hi ! When trying to pair a bluetooth headset, it only appears a fraction of second in KDE's bluetooth interface right when the headset is set to discover, then disappear before I can do anything. Any pointers ? |
15:07.23 | clad | Using opensuse 12.2 64bits |
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15:16.38 | Peace- | clad: mm have you installed every package? |
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15:17.01 | Peace- | clad: i am using kubuntu and if i have not all the packages i need i can even browser my bluethoo devicce |
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15:17.26 | Peace- | clad: here on kubuntu sudo apt-get install bluetooth bluez bluez-alsa bluez-cups bluez-gstreamer bluez-utils libbluetooth3 python-bluez libmulticobex1 libobexftp0 libopenobex1 obex-data-server obexd-client python-obexftp obexfs |
15:17.43 | Peace- | and now exiting |
15:17.44 | Peace- | bb |
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15:23.43 | mabs | Quick KMail question. How do I navigate through the mails in the mail folder using the keyboard. If I select a mail and press arrow down, KMail scrolls in the content of mail and not in the list of mails. |
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15:26.16 | neverendingo | mabs: left and right arrow keys |
15:27.19 | mabs | neverendingo, thanks a lot :) |
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15:31.53 | MichaelP | Any linux distro's that load desktop faster and run apps faster? |
15:32.40 | DaZ | wut |
15:33.32 | MichaelP | Is there a distro that runs kde faster then others? |
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15:33.52 | rdieter | make sure to select "make it go faster" checkbox (yes, sarcasm) |
15:34.14 | DaZ | depends |
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15:34.37 | DaZ | on gentoo you can probably compile it without some useless stuff :v |
15:35.39 | MichaelP | I'm not that advanced |
15:36.13 | DaZ | then you have to get better hardware :v |
15:36.34 | rdieter | MichaelP: then, imo, no, there isn't any distro measurably better by your standard |
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15:36.42 | MichaelP | I mean with building the distro |
15:38.07 | MichaelP | Guess could go back to arch.. It don't have the 50.000 uneeded packages |
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15:51.36 | edgy | Hi, I see most distros make hunspell dict available via myspell directory too, are there any kde apps that require this? isn't myspelll deprecated in favor of hunspell? |
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16:08.10 | rdieter | edgy: kde can support all manner of spelling backends |
16:08.25 | Baylink | REFERRAL: Where do the KDE3 people hang out? (SuSE 12.1, specifically; Firefox drag and drop problem and I don't see a -desktop or -integration package in the repo) |
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16:08.44 | rdieter | edgy: and it is largely abstracted (like phonon is for multimedia) |
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16:09.31 | edgy | rdieter: so I want to create a package for hunspell-?? where ?? is my language, I don't need to symlink to /usr/share/myspell as well, right? |
16:10.05 | rdieter | edgy: that's an implementation detail I usually leave up to my distro to handle for me. are you making your own distro or something? |
16:10.39 | edgy | rdieter: my distro doesn't contain a dic for my language so I want to contribute by creating a package for it |
16:10.56 | rdieter | edgy: ok, then I'd suggest asking your distro |
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16:11.18 | rdieter | and start by looking at examples of how other languages are handled and done via packaging |
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16:11.50 | edgy | rdieter: ok, the other question is why do we have dicts for english .eg. for each country, why not en_US and en_GB? |
16:12.05 | rdieter | i don't know |
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16:12.53 | heath | i can zoom in and out within konsole and other kde apps using ctl++ and ctl+- but it actually passes the "+" and "-" characters in yakuake, ideas? |
16:14.16 | edgy | rdieter: thanks, to clarify more: in kde apps I see things like Engish (Canada), English (Australia), ..., I thought English is either US or GB, can any Engish native speaker confirms this? |
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16:19.41 | BluesKaj | edgy, English (Canada) and English (Australia) still use some British spellings , but also quite a few North American spellings that the brits don't use |
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16:22.03 | BluesKaj | edgy, for example "gaol" in British English is "jail" in Canada and the US |
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16:30.24 | Baylink | Modern Brits don't actually still spell it gaol, do they? |
16:34.13 | invariant | I would like to be able to select some files and drag the filesnames into an editor (don't care which one). Is this possible? |
16:36.07 | BluesKaj | Baylink, yeah , could be right , it's been a while since I've seen the word spelled gaol |
16:36.30 | Baylink | I do, but only when I'm playing around |
16:37.24 | BluesKaj | invariant, copy the file name from their properties field |
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16:38.08 | BluesKaj | ok , bbl..stuff to do |
16:39.20 | Baylink | invariant: I assume you mean "a bunch of filenames all at once"? Have you tried multi-selecting them in a details view file window, and copying? What do you get? Which editor? |
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16:47.51 | edgy | BluesKaj: thanks, I tried echo gaol | hunspell -d en_US and it says it's correct, too. |
16:48.19 | edgy | evn echo summarize | hunspell -d en_GB show it's correct |
16:48.40 | edgy | so if all English words are in all dicts, why is the distinction?! |
16:49.39 | jokke | hey folks, i'm having some issues with sound upon wake up. |
16:49.45 | jokke | as in, it's gone |
16:50.11 | jokke | i don't have pulse installed, and i'd rather keep it that way |
16:50.27 | jokke | but might this be the issue? |
16:50.49 | rdieter | jokke: not a kde problem (nor pulseaudio), most likely kernel/driver related (best ask your distro) |
16:51.04 | jokke | rdieter: might be... using mainline kernel. |
16:51.11 | jokke | alright |
16:51.20 | jokke | i'll try out with another kernel |
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17:45.55 | invariant | Why do people ask "which editor" when I said that I didn't care about the specific editor? |
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17:47.35 | tosky | invariant: maybe it was a misunderstanding, he tought that you already tried |
17:47.40 | tosky | invariant: and it didn't work |
17:47.52 | tosky | invariant: anyway: select all, right click, open with, kate |
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17:48.05 | Zero_Angel | or notepad.exe through wine |
17:48.21 | invariant | tosky, I don't want to open the files. I just want the file names. |
17:48.41 | tosky | ah |
17:48.48 | tosky | this time I misread :) |
17:49.11 | tosky | no idea, then |
17:51.00 | Zero_Angel | you're trying to list all files in a directory and have it put into a text file? |
17:51.10 | Zero_Angel | sorry I got here late |
17:51.28 | invariant | No, just a dolphin selection of files. |
17:51.40 | invariant | You don't need to tell me about the basics of the shell. |
17:52.11 | invariant | I already wrote it myself now, but these are the kinds of things for which people still need to start terminals. |
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17:52.22 | Zero_Angel | indeed |
17:52.32 | invariant | But there is really no need for it. |
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17:53.49 | Zero_Angel | I have some shell scripts kicking around, it shouldnt be much trouble to adapt them into 'paste name of this file into a text file' script |
17:56.28 | Zero_Angel | so you would want the names of the selected files to be pasted into a text file in the current dir? |
17:56.45 | Zero_Angel | or, say to the desktop? |
17:59.38 | invariant | Zero_Angel, no, just to the clipboard. |
17:59.54 | invariant | Zero_Angel, er no |
18:00.04 | invariant | Zero_Angel, I just want it to work via drag and drop. |
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18:00.21 | invariant | It could optionally ask what I want it to do. |
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18:00.47 | Zero_Angel | oh, I wouldnt know how to put things into the clip board |
18:00.49 | invariant | But in the case of large binary files it should just do the only thing that makes sense. |
18:00.58 | Zero_Angel | unless there was a DBUS command for that |
18:01.24 | invariant | Zero_Angel, it needs application support to make this work. |
18:01.33 | Zero_Angel | or even better, DCOP. Man I miss DCOP. |
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18:03.13 | Zero_Angel | what are you trying to drop to? |
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18:09.13 | neverendingo | qdbus org.kde.dolphin-xxxx /dolphin/Dolphin_1/actions/edit_copy trigger |
18:09.14 | neverendingo | <PROTECTED> |
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18:15.29 | Zero_Angel | oh interesting. Is there a way for a shell script to get the ID of a dolphin instance that called it? |
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18:19.21 | Zero_Angel | it would appear that xclip is a CLI util that can put things into the clipboard too |
18:20.28 | Zero_Angel | That could be adapted into a shellscript, for example to paste the names of the currently selected files into a temporary text file, then use xclip to put that list into the clipboard |
18:21.16 | Zero_Angel | then pass those those files as args into whatever the heck invariant wants to do |
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18:24.04 | Paddy_NI | Does kde have a dlna server ? |
18:24.18 | DaZ | no |
18:24.32 | Paddy_NI | Oh...? |
18:24.39 | DaZ | ooh! |
18:24.45 | Paddy_NI | are there any plans for kde to have any dlna funtionality |
18:24.59 | Paddy_NI | afaik gnome are baking rygel into gnome |
18:25.22 | svuorela | what is dnla ? |
18:25.33 | Paddy_NI | dlna |
18:25.43 | tosky | svuorela: something over upnp to share files between smart devices |
18:25.53 | Paddy_NI | svuorela: http://www.dlna.org/ |
18:25.59 | Paddy_NI | It's a must have |
18:26.38 | DaZ | dunnolol, i only use it on my tv which is too stupid for sshfs for now :v |
18:26.57 | Zero_Angel | well you could always install a program called 'PS3 Media Server'. It's not only for streaming to PS3s. |
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18:27.30 | Paddy_NI | then that seems utterly pointless unless I also buy a ps3 |
18:27.44 | Paddy_NI | which I have no interest in doing... |
18:28.00 | Zero_Angel | re-read my last chat message. Pay attention to the last sentence. |
18:28.11 | tosky | anyway, rygel works as a server, so... |
18:28.21 | Paddy_NI | I have a nexus 7 (tablet), xperia p(phone) a couple of laptops(Windows 7 & Ubuntu (gnome remix) and a tower pc (opensuse kde) |
18:28.44 | Paddy_NI | all of these are able to operate with my smart tv the only lagger behind in kde |
18:28.54 | Zero_Angel | PS3 MS does general DLNA functionality |
18:29.02 | tosky | Paddy_NI: again, nothing prevents you from using rygel |
18:29.04 | Paddy_NI | tosky: actually rygel fails without most of the gnome desktop installed |
18:29.06 | Zero_Angel | so all your devices that support DLNA should accept the streams from it |
18:29.16 | tosky | Paddy_NI: just libraries, no big issues |
18:29.21 | Paddy_NI | tosky: I know as I have been trying to get it working for 2 weeks |
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18:29.54 | Paddy_NI | okay so I'll just get this straight KDE does not have any dlna support natively? |
18:30.11 | tosky | Paddy_NI: funny enough, I realized I had a DLNA server running on my home server when I tried do browse DLNA resources with upnp... it was installed and it shared stuff from common folders |
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18:30.51 | Paddy_NI | tosky: I don't really run a home server as such |
18:31.01 | Paddy_NI | most of the devices are on demand here really |
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18:31.45 | tosky | Paddy_NI: my point was that I didn't need to configure anything :) |
18:32.11 | Paddy_NI | tosky: Well in order for dlna to work you need a dlna server and a renderer |
18:32.22 | Paddy_NI | well and of course the client |
18:32.33 | Paddy_NI | rygel does the serving and rendering |
18:32.56 | tosky | Paddy_NI: right, but you were asking about "a dlna server ?" |
18:33.01 | Paddy_NI | yes |
18:33.05 | Paddy_NI | and does kde have one |
18:33.08 | Paddy_NI | :-) |
18:33.43 | tosky | is it important? The important thing would be the client (there is a kio-upnp usable but not yet officially stable) |
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18:33.56 | Paddy_NI | oh? |
18:34.41 | Paddy_NI | Yeah rygel fails here... |
18:35.16 | Paddy_NI | http://pastebin.com/ttHuVBjj |
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18:36.42 | Paddy_NI | Zero_Angel: Sorry I did not pay attention |
18:36.56 | Paddy_NI | my bad.. I'll have a look at ps3 media server |
18:37.08 | Paddy_NI | they should seriously consider a proper name |
18:37.15 | Zero_Angel | oh yeah, i can now see how that could be misunderstood |
18:37.17 | tosky | Paddy_NI: it doesn't look like a failure - can you see your system with upnp-inspector or vlc? |
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18:37.50 | Paddy_NI | tosky: It does not show up on my tablet or phone |
18:37.57 | Paddy_NI | I could go check the smart tv |
18:38.22 | tosky | Paddy_NI: try locally first (upnp-inspector or vlc-network browing functionality) |
18:38.33 | Paddy_NI | okay just a moment :-) |
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18:40.55 | Paddy_NI | tosky: No it does not show up in "upnp-inspector" |
18:41.17 | tosky | ok, no idea then |
18:41.55 | Paddy_NI | hmm.. I wonder if opensuse has a firewall enabled by default |
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18:43.22 | tosky | but upnp-inspector should work on the same machine |
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18:43.32 | Paddy_NI | ah okay |
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19:48.07 | Zero_Angel | would anyone know how to turn off join/leave notifications in Quassel? |
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19:50.15 | Paddy_NI | btw KDE rocks |
19:50.27 | Paddy_NI | thank you kindly :-D |
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19:51.27 | Zero_Angel | ah, right click on name of chat and select 'hide events' |
19:52.01 | ovidiu-florin | thank you Zero_Angel |
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19:55.41 | the_gamer | in ktorrent, how to get back into the menu to choose what files from a torrent to download? |
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20:00.57 | ZenGuy311 | settings |
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20:01.15 | ZenGuy311 | sorry |
20:01.26 | ZenGuy311 | select the torrent and click "files" |
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20:01.48 | diddly | hi all, when I rotate with krandrtray (nvidia) the desktop rotates, but the virtual desktop remains in native resulotion and allows me to pan-and-scan |
20:02.13 | ZenGuy311 | i have a service menu entry that i would like to activate with a button on dolphin.. how can I go about doing that? |
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20:08.40 | reactormonk | ZenGuy311, register a keybinding? Or do you want to add a new menu button? |
20:09.00 | ZenGuy311 | menu button |
20:09.25 | ZenGuy311 | i should try a key binding though that isn't as appealing though |
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20:10.04 | ZenGuy311 | reactormonk: where do i go to add a keybinding? |
20:10.41 | the_gamer | ZenGuy311, can't find the button/wrting saying "files" |
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20:53.43 | rindolf | Yay! Amarok is fixed on Mageia Linux 3. |
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20:54.21 | BluesKaj | rindolf, fixed how ? |
20:55.11 | BluesKaj | what was wrong ? |
20:55.40 | rindolf | BluesKaj: it crashed on startup. |
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21:00.12 | BluesKaj | rindolf, ok , it's somewhat more stable here on kubuntu 13.04 ...still freezes once in a while |
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21:02.53 | sythe | BluesKaj: Try Linux Mint KDE, or Netrunner, or Chakra |
21:03.00 | sythe | Much better KDE distros than Kubuntu, IMO |
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21:04.32 | ompaul | BluesKaj: you are running an unstable version what do you expect, it is not released yet, move to an older one, or install someone elses stable else get into your distro (say debian sid()) and get on with reporting bugs against your desktop :) # |
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21:04.51 | rindolf | BluesKaj: now it's OK. |
21:05.41 | mintuser | I have a problem with kwallet messing things up. I have no desire to ever use anything like that. How can I get rid of kwallet or find out exactly how it has been interfering with things? |
21:06.01 | mintuser | or do I have to just give up on using kde> |
21:06.03 | mintuser | ? |
21:06.38 | mintuser | Is there anyone here? Is this an active channel? Is there somewhere else I should ask instead? |
21:07.14 | mintuser | I have spent hours on my distro channel and the consensus is that only you folks can help me. |
21:07.27 | mintuser | if there are any folks here. |
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21:07.36 | mintuser | hmmm |
21:08.08 | mintuser | rindolf: BluesKaj can you help me |
21:09.17 | mintuser | I was warned on my distro channel not to attempt to puge kwallet but rather to come here and ask. can you help BluesKaj rindolf ? |
21:09.18 | BluesKaj | ompaul, yes I'm quite aware of that and I'm not complaining , merely commenting and also have a kubuntu 12.10 as my main OS, which is very stable . I'm a Kubuntu-devel tester, so I've come to expect instability |
21:09.43 | mintuser | oh BluesKaj could you please help me? |
21:10.00 | rindolf | mintuser: hi. |
21:10.11 | mintuser | oh hi rindolf , can you help me? |
21:10.15 | rindolf | mintuser: I think you can use an empty password with kdewallet. |
21:10.58 | mintuser | oh I thought that was what was causing me all my problems. I did that. but I am also concerned that kwallet might be grabbing my other passwords -- a huge security risk. |
21:11.11 | mintuser | how can I get rid of kdewallet altogether? |
21:11.22 | mintuser | it is causing lots of problems. |
21:11.37 | BluesKaj | mintuser, , alt +f2 , kwalletmanager , then choose settings>configure wallet , uncheck "enable wallet manager ,if you don't plan to use it |
21:13.26 | mintuser | ah, thank you: I assume I can do that from a terminal instead. |
21:13.33 | mintuser | odd: The program 'kwalletmanager' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: |
21:13.33 | mintuser | sudo apt-get install kwalletmanager |
21:14.15 | mintuser | perhaps I actually purged it before when it was causing problems. |
21:14.29 | BluesKaj | mintuser, use the desktop krunner , it's easier |
21:14.42 | mintuser | my problem is that something is stopping passwords from getting to the various programs I run that require passwords. |
21:14.50 | BluesKaj | alt +f2 |
21:15.30 | Mamarok | somebody should update the topic... |
21:16.09 | mintuser | oh no. I hate getting out of the terminal, I am a strictly cli person, but if you insist. |
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21:17.37 | mintuser | of course it does nothing from alt+f2 and you don't get the error message that way. |
21:17.52 | BluesKaj | mintuser, if you like fooling around in config files in the terminal , be my guest , but finding some apps and dealing with their settings in a gui is easier |
21:17.59 | mintuser | BluesKaj: where in heavens name did you get the idea using krunner was easier? |
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21:18.39 | BluesKaj | mintuser, it ain't easy if you purged it :) |
21:18.41 | mintuser | BluesKaj: I despise guis and am totally comfortable on the command line etc., but since you are the one helping me, I am certainly willing to do things your way. |
21:19.37 | mintuser | I don't remember purging it but do remember it making me want to throw the computer out the window so wouldn't put it past me. |
21:20.24 | mintuser | BluesKaj: can you still help me? |
21:20.35 | mintuser | should I reinstall it? |
21:20.39 | BluesKaj | well , sorry to disappoint you mintuser , I'm not a cli purist ..guiis are there for a purpose , being an old windows guy it's simpler for me on linux |
21:21.07 | mintuser | BluesKaj: I said I would do things via gui. that is the least I can do if you are willing to help me, |
21:21.12 | BluesKaj | yeah probly reinstall , then disable |
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21:21.42 | mintuser | I will try that then. will you be here when I come back if I have problems? |
21:22.00 | BluesKaj | yes . I'm here |
21:22.06 | BluesKaj | mintuser,^ |
21:22.08 | danharibo | mintuser: have you re=installed kwallet? |
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21:22.21 | BluesKaj | so are the rest of the helpers here |
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21:23.49 | BluesKaj | mintuser, but if you've already stored passwords in kwallet then you may still have problems |
21:24.05 | mintuser | I installed and ran it but don't see where to disable it. |
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21:24.38 | mintuser | I never intentionally stored anything in kwallet. does it grab them on its own? |
21:24.41 | BluesKaj | use krunner to bring it up |
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21:25.39 | BluesKaj | no , you need to store the pws manually afaik, mintuser |
21:25.50 | mintuser | whew |
21:26.12 | BluesKaj | I despise it , nothing but a PITA |
21:26.33 | mintuser | I brought it up, but the only settings options it seems to have are shortcuts |
21:26.55 | mintuser | BluesKaj: now what? |
21:27.48 | mintuser | BluesKaj: what do I do now? |
21:27.59 | BluesKaj | click on settings , choose configure wallet |
21:28.06 | mintuser | ok, done |
21:28.24 | mintuser | duh, it is on the very top. |
21:29.21 | BluesKaj | mintuser, uncheck "enable wallet manager blah blah", apply |
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21:30.04 | mintuser | thanks I did that, but the problems don't seem to have disappeared. |
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21:30.34 | BluesKaj | ok , what problems ? |
21:30.40 | Moviuro | I really love KMail but really, WHY can't it respond instantly when I want it to display a new message...??? It's soooo boring ! Can't I just take a look at my mail while it has its own business alone ? WHY should the user's actions be disabled ? |
21:31.02 | mintuser | now I am getting the following: KDE Control Module: no agents were available for this request. |
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21:31.48 | mintuser | BluesKaj: any idea what the error message: KDE Control Module: no agents were available for this request. means? |
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21:33.25 | mintuser | BluesKaj: in general those programs for which I got a kwallet popup originally that I dismissed are failing to get the passwords I enter or failing to prompt for passwords when they should. |
21:34.53 | mintuser | BluesKaj: any ideas? |
21:35.02 | BluesKaj | mintuser, what acyion are you foing when the errors occur? |
21:35.04 | mintuser | BluesKaj: any other questions? |
21:35.08 | BluesKaj | action |
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21:36.20 | mintuser | well the one that concerns me most right now is trying to connect to a vpn server with openvpn as client. It requires user-password authentication but it won't save the password when set to store and won't prompt for it when set to "always ask" |
21:36.50 | mintuser | BluesKaj: but it isn't limited to that. |
21:37.07 | mintuser | BluesKaj: that is just the most important at the moment. |
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21:38.53 | mintuser | BluesKaj: any ideas? |
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21:39.15 | BluesKaj | the only thing i can find is wifi problems and network manager errors with your errors |
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21:40.57 | mintuser | it is a network manager error. network manager isn't allowing me to save a password for a vpn connection. |
21:41.24 | mintuser | but I believe that is because of kwallet |
21:41.36 | mintuser | it has never happened before and everything else is identical. |
21:41.58 | mintuser | my distro channel agreed that they thought it was due to kwallet and they sent me here. |
21:44.04 | BluesKaj | this the closest I can find to your problem ...it's debian so it may apply , http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669702 |
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22:01.18 | Marquel | morning. i have a tiny problem with kmail: responsetimes are slow beyond comparison. it might be akonadi but before i delete my entire akonadi-database and rebuild it from scratch i wanted to see if anybody else has seen this problem lately. |
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22:18.14 | mintuser | BluesKaj: I discovered something else: kded(1680)/Network Management (service) SecretStorage::loadSecrets: Error opening kwallet. Secrets not loaded. |
22:18.14 | mintuser | kwalletd(3962): Communication problem with "kwalletd" , it probably crashed. |
22:18.14 | mintuser | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " |
22:18.14 | mintuser | plasma-desktop(2011)/plasma StatusNotifierItemSource::refreshCallback: DBusMenu disabled for this application |
22:18.38 | mintuser | oops that was 4 lines not 3. sorry |
22:20.13 | mintuser | BluesKaj: are you still here? |
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22:35.09 | mintuser | mck182, can you help? |
22:35.26 | mck182 | what with? |
22:35.53 | mintuser | kwallet interference. are you able to see anything I said before? |
22:36.07 | mck182 | I am not |
22:37.09 | mintuser | oh. I didn't want to use kwallet so I didn't give it a password and dismissed it whenever it popped up. It seems at one point I even purged it. It is preventing programs from getting passwords. |
22:37.50 | mintuser | mck182: e.g. a network connection for openvpn -- it cannot store the password and if set to "always ask" it doesn't ask. |
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22:38.12 | mintuser | oh. I didn't want to use kwallet so I didn't give it a password and dismissed it whenever it popped up. It seems at one point I even purged it. It is preventing programs from getting passwords. |
22:38.41 | mintuser | <PROTECTED> |
22:38.41 | mintuser | <mintuser> Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " |
22:38.41 | mintuser | <mintuser> plasma-desktop(2011)/plasma StatusNotifierItemSource::refreshCallback: DBusMenu disabled for this application |
22:39.00 | mck182 | tbh I don't know much about apps with kwallet disabled |
22:39.14 | mintuser | I do not want to ever use kwallet. I need all these programs to work |
22:42.29 | mintuser | kwallet seems a huge security risk and i woul raher not have it at all |
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22:43.07 | mintuser | if nobody at #kde can help, who can? |
22:44.03 | mintuser | I used to really like kde before kwallet. I had better avoid installing it ever again. |
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22:44.35 | Torch | i don't know if it can be left out at all |
22:44.41 | Torch | i just set an empty password and ignore it. |
22:44.46 | Torch | have been doing so for years |
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22:45.06 | mintuser | that is why i will have to avoid kde in the future |
22:46.09 | Torch | let me know if you find something better ;-) |
22:46.11 | mintuser | Torch: that is what seemed to cause my problems in the first place |
22:46.41 | mintuser | what do you mean something better Torch |
22:47.01 | Torch | mintuser:well, if you "have to avoid kde" you need to find a superior alternative, right? |
22:47.09 | Torch | mintuser: let us all know what that is when you've found it |
22:47.32 | mintuser | if what you said is true anything without kwallet would be better. |
22:47.44 | mintuser | even sls would be preferrable to this nightmare |
22:47.59 | Torch | mintuser: sls? |
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22:48.37 | Torch | mintuser: also please do note that leaving the password empty is my own personal preference and not mandated by either kde or kwallet |
22:49.20 | mintuser | why is it necessary to have kwallet at all? |
22:49.44 | dcambie_ | mintuser: because it's convenient? :P |
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22:50.16 | Torch | mintuser: you need a way to securely store passwords in many applications. makes sense to have a central app to take care of that. |
22:50.30 | mintuser | dcambie: once more a distorted sense of convenience overtakes security and genuine convenience -- same mentality as cellphone bank deposits |
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22:50.37 | Torch | mintuser: it wasn't there right from the start; i remember kmail storing its passwords in its config file. |
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22:50.58 | Torch | mintuser: if you set a password and not leave it empty it's secure enough |
22:51.11 | Torch | mintuser: i'm just too lazy to do that |
22:51.14 | mintuser | I don't want my passwords on my computer I should be prompted for them if i so choose. |
22:51.25 | Torch | mintuser: then turn off kwallet |
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22:51.56 | mintuser | I did and none of my programs work. did you see the error messages I have been getting? |
22:52.15 | Torch | mintuser: no, but from what i gathered your troubles are with network manager. |
22:52.24 | mintuser | that is one of them |
22:52.28 | Torch | mintuser: and i must say i feel about network manager like you seem to feel about kwallet ;-) |
22:52.37 | mintuser | anything that requires a password has similar problems |
22:52.46 | mintuser | unless it is a script I wrote myself |
22:53.30 | mintuser | Torch: in what sense |
22:53.32 | dcambie_ | mintuser: from CLI type kcmshell4 kwalletconfi and deflag first box |
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22:53.50 | mintuser | I did tht |
22:53.52 | dcambie_ | mintuser: sorry, I missed a letter: "kcmshell4 kwalletconfig" |
22:53.54 | mintuser | thta |
22:54.08 | Torch | mintuser: like i said, it's been working for me for years, using kopete, kmail, but no network manager (which i don't use at all on any of my machines) |
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22:54.34 | mintuser | I need to access vpn servers |
22:54.45 | Torch | mintuser: /etc/openvpn exists ;-) |
22:55.00 | mintuser | I am using openvpn |
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22:55.11 | Torch | mintuser: so what do you need network manager for? |
22:55.29 | mintuser | Torch do you know how to make a vpn connection totally bypassing network manager |
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22:55.38 | Torch | mintuser: yes |
22:55.52 | mintuser | ok, how? |
22:56.11 | mintuser | I mean when network manager is running, by the way. |
22:56.29 | Torch | mintuser: set up a config file in /etc/openvpn and start the rc script |
22:56.37 | Torch | mintuser: got to be root, obviously |
22:56.49 | mintuser | what should be in the config file? |
22:57.03 | Torch | mintuser: the openvpn website has all the docs you need |
22:57.12 | Torch | mintuser: it's a LOT simpler than it first looks |
22:57.18 | mintuser | and what would be the needed cli command once you have the config file? |
22:57.25 | mintuser | ok |
22:57.27 | mintuser | thanks |
22:57.37 | mintuser | and it will work even if network manager is running? |
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22:57.45 | Torch | mintuser: no idea, probably yes. |
22:57.54 | mintuser | I love doing things with config files and hat using guis |
22:58.08 | mintuser | thanks |
22:58.27 | Torch | mintuser: you're aware that you can avoid network manager totally as long as you don't regularly need to switch wlans? |
22:58.42 | mintuser | I do regularly need to switch wlans |
23:00.03 | mintuser | I have 4-5 routers I am constantly switching between and this is a laptop so ... |
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23:11.42 | BadMagic | Not sure if this is the right room to ask the question, so I'll try and see what happens |
23:12.30 | BadMagic | running a script that starts 120 'screen' sessions that each run a Qt program that puts data in a mysql database and then does a report on the data. |
23:12.52 | BadMagic | In looking through the output, there are several runs missing data |
23:13.31 | BadMagic | checking those runs the log shows errors about |
23:14.14 | BadMagic | <PROTECTED> |
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23:14.56 | BadMagic | Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
23:15.09 | BadMagic | Any ideas? |
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23:43.26 | cjae | why is dolphin so much slower at file transfers across lan than nautilus? not an attempt to be rude or be ungrateful |
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23:54.37 | Torch | cjae_: you mean samba? |
23:55.04 | cjae_ | yes it is from a samba server shares |
23:55.21 | Torch | cjae_: dolphin uses kio_smb for samba shares which _copies_ the whole file before it can be processed. |
23:55.37 | Torch | cjae_: this hurts terribly with large stuff (movies, e.g.) |
23:56.00 | cjae_ | ok |
23:56.12 | Torch | cjae_: afaik there's nothing you could do about it |
23:56.20 | Torch | cjae_: except not use samba shares |
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23:56.24 | cjae_ | do you happen to know what nautilus uses? |
23:56.31 | cjae_ | ok |
23:56.33 | Torch | cjae_: no |
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23:56.41 | cjae_ | ok |
23:58.06 | cjae_ | what could I do to limit the speed on a mounted nfs share since even though both new machines, using nfs causes cpu topping out syndrome and file stops transfering |
23:59.12 | *** join/#kde drhouse123 (~drhouse12@2.134.147.217) |