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| 05:04.41 | lllll | I'm trying to emerge @kde-live from the kde overlay, but it's failing at kdepim-strigi-analyzer because its makefile has no install target. |
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| 05:31.44 | mynameisdeleted | I love that kate and konqueror and kdiff3 etc all support fish:// protocol |
| 05:32.09 | mynameisdeleted | so after I get a terminal into a remote box over ssh I can pretend as if thats an extension of my local filesystem |
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| 05:33.13 | dk0r | mynameisdeleted, yeah. me too.. |
| 05:33.27 | mynameisdeleted | it makes remote unix dev work soo much easier |
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| 05:38.11 | mynameisdeleted | mounted filesystmes for sshfs over internet are stinky as network lag or remote computer crash cause problems with your local filesystem mounts |
| 05:38.24 | mynameisdeleted | fish:// makes remote unix dev work soo much easier |
| 05:39.10 | dk0r | mynameisdeleted, you're right; and about so many things! |
| 05:39.16 | mynameisdeleted | sshfs is also really slow as a mounted kernel-level filesystem as it has no good caching |
| 05:39.23 | dk0r | agreed |
| 05:39.26 | mynameisdeleted | I'd like terminal to support such a url |
| 05:39.29 | mynameisdeleted | or konsole |
| 05:39.30 | dk0r | me too! |
| 05:40.27 | mynameisdeleted | I'm sad when I see a commercial app that bundles in only qt libraries and they decide against making a linux version |
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| 05:40.39 | mynameisdeleted | its like they hate linux even though there is no porting effort |
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| 05:53.14 | pawikan | asd |
| 05:53.18 | pawikan | hi |
| 05:53.39 | pawikan | hellow world |
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| 07:29.12 | invariant | Has this ever been fixed? http://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/filesystems-vs.-brain-damage-in-linux-applications-why-oh-why-cant-it-be-better |
| 07:30.52 | Sho_ | invariant: I'm guessing yes, "crystalproject" sounds like KDE 3 |
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| 07:35.46 | DaZ | it is kde3 since he mentions kicker :v |
| 07:36.31 | Sho_ | aye |
| 07:36.46 | Sho_ | well, all of the icon loading got rewritten for kde 4 |
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| 07:38.01 | DaZ | yup, now it's full of rainbows and unicorns. |
| 07:38.11 | ompaul | invariant: it is always good to pay attention to people who care enough to put dates on their rants ;-) |
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| 08:33.31 | macieks | Hi |
| 08:34.01 | DaZ | sup. |
| 08:34.07 | macieks | I found a bug in KDE, I prepared a fix, but I'm not sure if I should use KDE Bugs to submit a patch |
| 08:34.28 | macieks | or maybe Review Board can be used (or it's for dev only)? |
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| 08:39.30 | DaZ | dunnolol, you could ask on #kde-devel :v |
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| 08:41.26 | DaZ | though review board doesn't seem to be dev only |
| 08:42.14 | kkszysiu_work | :O |
| 08:42.29 | DaZ | ? :o |
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| 08:43.04 | Sho_ | macieks: reviewboard's the way to go |
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| 08:44.16 | macieks | thank yo :) |
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| 11:41.28 | leandrosansilva | Hello to all. A few time ago I saw a kwin plugin which creates a button on window decoration with the application menubar |
| 11:41.47 | DaZ | good for you! |
| 11:41.48 | leandrosansilva | very similar to firefox on windows |
| 11:42.29 | leandrosansilva | does anyone here knows I can get it? |
| 11:43.41 | DaZ | i think 4.10 rc can do it ootb. |
| 11:45.07 | leandrosansilva | hum... but is it available for download in 4.9.5? |
| 11:46.28 | DaZ | i think you'd need a patched kwin style |
| 11:48.35 | DaZ | ie http://www.webupd8.org/2011/11/oxygen-appmenu-replace-menu-with.html |
| 11:48.49 | mgraesslin | you need 4.10 |
| 11:48.50 | DaZ | though for some reason it got deprecated and deleted from kde-looks, so maybe you can do it without any patching somehow ;v |
| 11:48.57 | mgraesslin | it's not enough to have a patched kwin style |
| 11:49.06 | mgraesslin | it also needs a bucket of changes in KWin |
| 11:49.41 | DaZ | dunno, that stuff seems to disagree :v |
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| 11:51.03 | kkszysiu_work | mgraesslin: it will be easily activable in 4.10? |
| 11:51.14 | DaZ | it already is :v |
| 11:51.16 | mgraesslin | relatively, you need a few steps |
| 11:51.22 | kkszysiu_work | I see |
| 11:51.26 | kkszysiu_work | Nice then |
| 11:51.35 | mgraesslin | uses it |
| 11:51.51 | mgraesslin | wants to write a blog post on how to do it |
| 11:51.57 | DaZ | doesn't use it, because top menu bar is way better. |
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| 11:52.24 | mgraesslin | has multiple screens, top menu s***s for those |
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| 11:55.50 | djustice | rich kids, meh |
| 11:55.54 | djustice | ;p |
| 11:55.59 | leandrosansilva | oops. Thx to all. I think it's better to wait for 4.10. I've been using the menubar menubar, but here in kubuntu 12.10 it makes plasma crashes everytime |
| 11:56.36 | leandrosansilva | It can't work for more than a few minutes |
| 11:56.52 | danharibo | Top menu bar?! |
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| 11:58.50 | DaZ | danharibo: top as in that gay macosx way :v |
| 11:59.05 | danharibo | Crazy |
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| 12:02.40 | kkszysiu_work | DaZ: most of gays like it |
| 12:02.42 | kkszysiu_work | *guys |
| 12:02.43 | kkszysiu_work | :x |
| 12:03.46 | DaZ | obvious troll is obvious :c |
| 12:03.50 | kkszysiu_work | Best change in 4.10 is better support for multi-monitors env |
| 12:04.04 | kkszysiu_work | kscreen is great |
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| 12:05.19 | DaZ | there's plenty of nice changes :v |
| 12:06.56 | kkszysiu_work | Oh I like new QML lockscreen |
| 12:07.22 | bast1aan | in KDE 4.6 at work the multiple monitor stuff already works wel :) |
| 12:07.24 | DaZ | i like getting rid of tiling support in kwin |
| 12:07.26 | DaZ | oh wait :v |
| 12:07.35 | kkszysiu_work | Sad that background image is not inherited from my desktop but it seems like hardcoded |
| 12:07.43 | DaZ | it's not hardcoded |
| 12:07.51 | DaZ | it's using the default walpaper set in your plasma style. |
| 12:08.00 | DaZ | so you can set your own by changing that ;v |
| 12:08.01 | kkszysiu_work | Ah |
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| 12:09.44 | DaZ | though it should have noob friendly way of changing it :v |
| 12:09.58 | kkszysiu_work | Yes |
| 12:10.04 | kkszysiu_work | Im noob, I like simple solutions |
| 12:10.05 | DaZ | glad we agree. |
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| 12:11.01 | kkszysiu_work | At least im not that one guy with global top menu bar :x |
| 12:11.02 | kkszysiu_work | :D |
| 12:11.21 | danharibo | you are all crazy. |
| 12:11.26 | bast1aan | OK, I'm happy with my fresh-build KDE 4.9 on CentOS6. |
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| 12:12.17 | DaZ | at least i know how to set my own wallpaper :v |
| 12:12.35 | kkszysiu_work | Urule then |
| 12:13.00 | kkszysiu_work | U can be system administrator now :o |
| 12:15.26 | siavashserver | Hey DaZ |
| 12:15.49 | DaZ | sup person who broke my xenonauts session just now :v |
| 12:16.27 | kkszysiu_work | Ok, go play now :> |
| 12:17.01 | siavashserver | DaZ: Not much, just had a question regards how to setup plasma menu bar |
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| 12:17.21 | kkszysiu_work | Hey DaZ |
| 12:17.42 | siavashserver | It just shows a "File" menu, for every application. |
| 12:18.21 | siavashserver | Wondering how did you get that working |
| 12:18.28 | DaZ | either you have to restart every application, or fiddle with that menubar thingie in systemsettings if you're on 4.10 :v |
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| 12:18.53 | siavashserver | I have tried every package in AUR, none working (KDE 4.9.5) |
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| 12:19.24 | DaZ | siavashserver: kdeplasma-applets-menubar |
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| 12:19.53 | siavashserver | I guess I should wait for 4.10. Yes, I tried that one too DaZ |
| 12:21.07 | DaZ | siavashserver: dunnolol, it works for me :v |
| 12:21.26 | siavashserver | ;_; |
| 12:21.53 | siavashserver | DaZ: BTW, do you use e4rat by any chance too? |
| 12:22.04 | DaZ | maybe that whole appmenu plugin didn't load yet :v |
| 12:22.06 | DaZ | noep |
| 12:22.12 | DaZ | btrfs4lyfe. |
| 12:22.31 | siavashserver | DaZ: And SSD? |
| 12:22.35 | DaZ | nope. |
| 12:22.52 | siavashserver | Then what do you do with long KDE boot times? |
| 12:23.07 | DaZ | i don't turn it off. |
| 12:23.16 | siavashserver | KDM -> Desktop = 16secs for me. |
| 12:23.22 | DaZ | though it's not that long :v |
| 12:23.53 | DaZ | it's a laptop i take it. |
| 12:23.59 | siavashserver | e4rat reduces that to less than 6secs. |
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| 12:24.33 | siavashserver | DaZ: OK, thanks, sorry for interrupting your game ;) |
| 12:24.52 | DaZ | it crashed anyway ;_; |
| 12:25.01 | siavashserver | Haha |
| 12:25.46 | DaZ | wine is great at providing realistic windows experience. |
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| 12:28.18 | siavashserver | It would be good if icon-tasks plasma addon were more smart ... |
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| 12:28.52 | DaZ | how smart? :v |
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| 12:29.53 | siavashserver | DaZ: As smart as Win7 or OSX taskbars. |
| 12:30.06 | DaZ | i don't use those :v |
| 12:30.26 | kkszysiu_work | Yes |
| 12:30.35 | kkszysiu_work | I dont use it either |
| 12:30.52 | kkszysiu_work | What magic sorcery it does? |
| 12:31.02 | kkszysiu_work | Hide icons? |
| 12:31.09 | siavashserver | kkszysiu_work: Other taskbars? |
| 12:31.15 | kkszysiu_work | icon-tasks does that too I think |
| 12:31.16 | kkszysiu_work | yes |
| 12:31.23 | DaZ | all i've noticed is displaying progressbars inside icons :v |
| 12:31.38 | kkszysiu_work | Ah |
| 12:31.42 | kkszysiu_work | Ok, thats nice feature |
| 12:31.51 | siavashserver | Applications and taskbars are kinda more integrated there |
| 12:31.52 | kkszysiu_work | But quite problematic to achieve now... |
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| 12:32.05 | DaZ | define integrated. |
| 12:32.19 | siavashserver | There should be some standards introduced |
| 12:32.52 | DaZ | there probably already are :v |
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| 12:34.01 | siavashserver | DaZ: Knowing current status of applications; errors, warnings, ... job progress, and application specific menus |
| 12:34.35 | siavashserver | Unity has kinda achieved that I think |
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| 12:36.34 | siavashserver | My wish list for KDE ;P http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee624070.aspx |
| 12:36.54 | DaZ | you do hate kde >; |
| 12:37.07 | rishubh | i wanted to participte in kde-sok this year can anybody help me |
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| 12:38.21 | siavashserver | DaZ: No, I love it :< |
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| 12:38.57 | marjinal1st | hi, I'm using kubuntu 12.04 amd64. what do you recommend for easy daily routine backups? |
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| 12:39.52 | siavashserver | DaZ: To be more precise :P http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511446.aspx |
| 12:40.24 | rishubh | hey siavash if possible can u give me a bit of guidance to participate in this years GSOC?? |
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| 12:41.58 | marjinal1st | asking again; what do you recommend for easy daily routine backups? |
| 12:42.11 | siavashserver | rishubh: I'm afraid I can't help regards to that. Better looking for help in KDE forums about participating |
| 12:43.35 | rishubh | ohk thanks for replying |
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| 12:44.21 | siavashserver | rishubh: BTW, I would be more interested in improvements to that plasma panel and taskbar ;) |
| 12:44.39 | marjinal1st | asking again; what do you recommend for easy daily routine backups? |
| 12:45.16 | DaZ | rsync? :v |
| 12:45.19 | siavashserver | marjinal1st: For what purpose? Servers? Home? |
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| 12:45.29 | kkszysiu_work | crond+rsync? |
| 12:45.34 | marjinal1st | home |
| 12:45.35 | siavashserver | ^ |
| 12:46.01 | rishubh | siavash:i read and understod all the projects on kde ideas page for GSOC 2012 and i was interested in the android and ios development |
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| 12:47.19 | rishubh | siavash: i found plasma panel a bit difficult task may be because i am just a beginner right now.. |
| 12:48.28 | Cymew | marjinal1st: rsync |
| 12:48.43 | Cymew | Running from cron |
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| 12:50.48 | marjinal1st | how about a gui backup? |
| 12:50.55 | siavashserver | rishubh: Never knew that there will be android and ios ports of KDE, that's interesting. |
| 12:51.17 | siavashserver | marjinal1st: luckybackup? |
| 12:52.12 | marjinal1st | ok, gonna try |
| 12:52.44 | siavashserver | marjinal1st: Look here for other options https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&K=backup&PP=50&SB=v&SO=d |
| 12:52.47 | gryffus | hi folks... i seek information about 2 KDE projects... Akonadi-telepathy resource ( http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/pim/akonaditelepathy/ ) And KDE webaccounts ( https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/web-accounts ) Anyone have any information about them please? I would be glad for _any_ info... Thanks :) |
| 12:53.02 | gryffus | I just hope they are not dead |
| 12:53.34 | gryffus | ( i want to make packages of them for openSUSE ) |
| 12:53.38 | rishubh | siavashserver: ya ..actually the project is for improving the support of android devices |
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| 12:54.33 | siavashserver | sudo nano /etc/default/grub |
| 12:54.39 | siavashserver | oops ... |
| 12:56.24 | kkszysiu_work | rishubh: but thats mostly related to Qt, right? |
| 12:56.45 | kkszysiu_work | KDE on Android will be difficult |
| 12:57.11 | kkszysiu_work | Well ,theres no native window handling like on X, surfaceflinger doesnt support that |
| 12:58.09 | kkszysiu_work | Well Collabora was working on Wayland on Android |
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| 12:58.29 | kkszysiu_work | But it will require root propably and to be honest it's a LOT of work... |
| 12:59.05 | kkszysiu_work | But as I understand rishubh will be working on support for Android/iOS devices for KDE |
| 12:59.24 | rishubh | kkszysiu_work: ya it will be difficult and LOT of work but somehow the project ideas intrests me so most probably i will work on it if get a chance |
| 12:59.26 | kkszysiu_work | So no porting but mostly filetransfer, proper device detection. etc |
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| 13:00.16 | rishubh | kkszysiu_work: ya thats right...unless and untill kde puts up something else on the project list of gsoc 2013 |
| 13:00.32 | gryffus | kkszysiu_work: out-of-the-box akonadi sync would be nice :) |
| 13:00.33 | kkszysiu_work | You can propose your own idea :) |
| 13:00.55 | kkszysiu_work | Well, mtp filetransfer is not working for me |
| 13:01.02 | kkszysiu_work | For example |
| 13:01.09 | kkszysiu_work | At least it didnt work on KDE 4.8 |
| 13:01.21 | kkszysiu_work | Only host mode was supported then |
| 13:01.26 | kkszysiu_work | host USB* |
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| 13:02.13 | rishubh | kkszysiu_work: quite true i can put up my own idea but actually i m a begineer kind so right now it will be a bit easy for me to work on a project already given |
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| 13:05.54 | kkszysiu_work | I have some experience in window handling and all that stuff on Android :) |
| 13:06.22 | kkszysiu_work | Im hobby experimentator if we're talking about mobiles :) |
| 13:07.32 | rishubh | kkszysiu_work: same here....even i like workin on androids....but now i want to give my hobby a bigger prespective |
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| 13:16.27 | oldwhitemansays | Hi, in dolphin when show hidden files options is enabled dolphin becomes very laggy, even scrolling is laggy, on the other hand with folder without hidden folders everything works fine. kde 4.9.4 gentoo, tested on ati opensource and binary drivers and opensuse livecd. Is anybody have same issue ? Is there ticket on bugzilla? |
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| 13:40.36 | howlymowly | hi poeple.... file tagging in KDE: if I want to tag multiple files ot once how do I do that? |
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| 13:55.50 | howlymowly | the problem is: I can select multiple files and tag them but dolphin for example will not tag them recursvie throughout a folder structure |
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| 14:37.02 | axanon | how do I stop the No Mail dialogue box from popping up after logging in? its really annoying since you MUST click ok/press enter to get to the desktop |
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| 14:48.25 | djustice | edit /etc/pam.d/system-login, find the line with "pam_mail", add the word 'quiet' at the end |
| 14:48.35 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 14:48.36 | djustice | for reference |
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| 14:53.32 | axanon | thanks djustice |
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| 14:57.19 | Torch | howlymowly: my (uneducated) guess would be that recursive tagging just is not implemented (yet). did you search bugs.kde.org? |
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| 14:58.05 | howlymowly | Torch: nope |
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| 14:58.43 | howlymowly | Torch: thx. ^^ there you go: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182547 |
| 14:58.53 | howlymowly | its an ooold bug ^^ |
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| 16:26.37 | Alumin | is it possible to instruct a running KDM to log in as a specific user, from the command line (e.g. if I'm ssh-ed in remotely)? |
| 16:27.26 | Alumin | ideally I'd be able to do this ssh-ed in as that user, but if it requires root then that's doable |
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| 17:01.45 | jdvorak | i recently updated my kde and noticed that konqueror seems to operate much more quickly on high-ajax sites like gmail and facebook but it also crashes so frequently as to be unusable (for example, after 10-30 seconds of gmail usage) - is this common or is it a problem with my installation |
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| 17:03.59 | BluesKaj | jdvorak, konqueror is suffering from "benign neglect" I'm afraid , perhaps even depracated on some OSs |
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| 17:04.42 | jdvorak | BluesKaj: oh? It appears to me as though its functionality has been greatly enhanced recently.... |
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| 17:06.15 | BluesKaj | yes jdvorak perhaps on some OSs , but the ones I run use it as a file manager or for legacy user's benefit |
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| 17:07.10 | jdvorak | I have ulimit settings such that all processes are limited to 512 mB of real memory and 2 GB of swap... seems like that should be plenty.... |
| 17:07.35 | naderi | #Java |
| 17:08.54 | BluesKaj | jdvorak, yup |
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| 17:09.52 | BluesKaj | jdvorak, seems konqueror on opensuse 12.2 is fast and stable like it used to be :) |
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| 17:11.24 | jdvorak | get this: I just shut off the ulimit settings and did an ssh -Y and now Konqueror seems to be working fine with Facebook... but it is using an extremely large quantity of virtual memory... |
| 17:11.49 | naderi | anybody know how to joint this room:irc://irc.mozilla.org/#instantbird |
| 17:15.17 | jdvorak | actually.. i'm just noticing this.. but it looks like a lot of kde processes are using inordinately large amounts of virtual memory... as is chrome... |
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| 17:17.41 | wgosling | When working on files over ssh, is it possible to make KDE not give notifications about copying the file to /tmp? That's not something I care about. |
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| 17:19.20 | PasNox | nepomuk is broken and eat 3 of my quad cores |
| 17:19.28 | PasNox | how can i restart nepomuk service ? |
| 17:19.36 | PasNox | without killing it ? |
| 17:20.43 | emilsedgh | PasNox: what version are you using? |
| 17:20.53 | PasNox | kde sc 4.9 |
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| 17:21.02 | PasNox | 4.9.3 |
| 17:21.21 | PasNox | ba i finish to kill it with multiple: killall nepomukserver |
| 17:21.23 | PasNox | xD |
| 17:21.24 | emilsedgh | you can disable it on System Settings -> Desktop Search |
| 17:21.25 | jdvorak | I'm guessing that the KDE memory allocator reserves a large quantity of virtual memory for performance purposes.... I'd really like to change that. |
| 17:21.35 | emilsedgh | but hopefully with 4.10 this wont happen anymore. |
| 17:21.59 | PasNox | oki |
| 17:22.03 | PasNox | thanks :) |
| 17:22.59 | jdvorak | I can increase my virtual memory settings, but I'd like to keep a handle on processes that go haywire. Before I had the ulimit settings my box used to crash daily, and now it runs smoothly for months on end. |
| 17:23.15 | BluesKaj | jdvorak, lots of flash and java/javascript content on those sites |
| 17:23.15 | tosky | allocated virtual memory is not a big trouble, usually; RSS is of course |
| 17:24.39 | jdvorak | tosky: Yeah, actually, akregator and firebug were the specific applications that required the ulimit settings. |
| 17:25.48 | tosky | jdvorak: oh, akregator almost never crashes (but it can be linked to the number of feeds) |
| 17:26.07 | tosky | jdvorak: anyway, and going a bit OT ,instead of ulimit, you could look to cgroups, which allows you to tune the settings |
| 17:27.00 | PasNox | damn |
| 17:27.09 | PasNox | now it's krunner and kontact eating each one 1 complete core |
| 17:27.10 | PasNox | :'( |
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| 17:27.25 | tosky | PasNox: is it the first start? |
| 17:28.04 | qliatrope | hi all, how start KDE4 services manually in other wm (i.e. without startkde) ? |
| 17:28.17 | jdvorak | tosky: The problem here is that many KDE applications are using inordinately large amounts of memory. For example, kalarm is using 424 megabytes of swap? Why? |
| 17:29.11 | PasNox | tosky: nop |
| 17:29.20 | PasNox | a long way install |
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| 17:29.28 | PasNox | i never had such big problems at the same times |
| 17:29.31 | PasNox | very strange :/ |
| 17:30.35 | PasNox | all killed |
| 17:30.38 | PasNox | all loosk fine now |
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| 17:31.36 | qliatrope | i would start kde serives on i3 |
| 17:32.12 | qliatrope | services* |
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| 17:35.15 | PasNox | ;) |
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| 17:36.56 | qliatrope | :/ |
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| 17:53.22 | PasNox | is there a way to deactivate the dolphin feature that auto reload the folder view resolving the syminks in path ? |
| 17:53.26 | PasNox | i really dislike that thing |
| 17:53.31 | PasNox | and find nothing to disable |
| 17:56.44 | xdan779 | PasNox: what does that mean |
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| 18:06.30 | PasNox | xdan779: in my home |
| 18:06.34 | PasNox | all my folder like |
| 18:06.36 | PasNox | Music |
| 18:06.38 | PasNox | Images etc |
| 18:06.44 | PasNox | are simlinks to another partitions |
| 18:07.01 | PasNox | when i click inside one of this folder |
| 18:07.07 | PasNox | some seconds after dolphin reload the view using the resolved symlinks path |
| 18:07.10 | PasNox | very boring |
| 18:08.15 | PasNox | any dolphin dev here ? :) |
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| 18:49.03 | wabash | Hi everyone. Is there a folder in my home dir that holds stuff on the desktop? |
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| 18:49.31 | wabash | Unfortunately, I'm working on a system that originally had Gnome, so the folder titled "Desktop" seems to be the Gnome desktop, and not the KDE desktop. |
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| 18:50.32 | rdieter | wabash: they both should default to using ~/Desktop |
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| 18:50.58 | rdieter | well, kde's folderview widget uses ~/Desktop by default. close enough |
| 18:51.03 | tosky | (or the translated version, depending on the language, afaik) |
| 18:51.30 | Inkane | wabash: if you have a folderwidget plasmoid, you could just check which folder it is using |
| 18:51.33 | rdieter | or that, me being a naive monolingual :0 |
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| 18:52.38 | wabash | Inkane: Im' not sure if I have that. How can I tell? |
| 18:52.53 | wabash | rdieter: So I've got a bunch of stuff in that folder, but nothing showing on the desktop. |
| 18:53.33 | tosky | wabash: maybe you don't use folderview as container for your desktop |
| 18:54.01 | Inkane | wabash: unlock your plasmoids. If you can move it around and has a wrench symbol next to it, it probably is a folderview |
| 18:54.07 | wabash | tosky: Ok, so I'm new to KDE. Can you explain folderview and folderwidget and so on? Are these things I have to install separately? |
| 18:54.19 | wabash | Inkane: I see. So this is the Desktop tab? |
| 18:54.35 | wabash | Inkane: Well, start from beginning. Where to I look for plasmoid controls? |
| 18:54.36 | tosky | wabash: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma#Folder_Views |
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| 18:55.22 | wabash | tosky: Ah, I see. thanks! |
| 18:56.24 | wabash | tosky: So KDE's mechanism for displaying stuff on the desktop is actually a separate entity, not the desktop background area itself like other WM/DTs. So if I take that entitity, I can configure it like a littel transparent box somewhere, or else I can make that box the whole desktop size, correct? |
| 18:56.31 | tosky | wabash: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/plasma-desktop/index.html |
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| 18:57.03 | tosky | not KDE's mechanism, but KDE Plasma's mechanism |
| 18:57.17 | wabash | tosky: Right. But in concept, at least, I'm roughly correct? |
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| 18:58.32 | tosky | Plasma allows to use "containers" to draw the background; one of this container is the folderview, which can be used as an "applet" on other containers (so you can put a folderview over default, empty container) or a main container for the desktop |
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| 18:58.44 | wabash | tosky: I see. thank you. Very flexible. |
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| 19:09.59 | jdvorak | I've noticed that some KDE apps reserve large quantities of memory that they never use. |
| 19:11.08 | rdieter | jdvorak: yes, not uncommon (one cause is qt's javascript JIT implementation) |
| 19:11.39 | rdieter | used by both QtScript QtWebKit |
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| 19:13.50 | invariant | My mouse cursor has a graphical artifact. Is that a known problem? |
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| 19:14.28 | invariant | To be precise, I am seeing something which looks like a [ chracter where the top and bottom are pointing slightly up. |
| 19:14.44 | invariant | I mean pointed to the center. |
| 19:14.52 | invariant | \ |
| 19:14.54 | invariant | | |
| 19:15.00 | invariant | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.08 | invariant | Like that. |
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| 19:19.34 | invariant | It works fine on another monitor :/ |
| 19:20.19 | lordievader | invariant: I have the same problem from time to time, never bothered to look into it though. A simple restart of X fixes it. |
| 19:20.26 | wgosling | invariant: xorg does that sometimes. I'm not sure if it is something KDE can really fix. |
| 19:20.55 | invariant | First time it happened for me and I was starting to get happy with how my system worked. |
| 19:21.49 | invariant | What is this? XKB: reuse xkmfile /var/lib/xkb/server-C4C60001970AB814F5EA4D914E35ADD401E7DB07.xkm |
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| 19:23.38 | wabash | tosky: My desktop itself does not seem to have any plasmoids or widgets on it. To get me started, should I search for these settings in the little "desktop" tab and add widgets or osemthing? or should I go to the system settings? |
| 19:24.20 | tosky | wabash: from the "desktop" things you should be able to add widgets or panels |
| 19:24.48 | wabash | tosky: Yes, I've found that. I've found some nice widgets I did not know about! But for displaying files, what widget should I be looking for? |
| 19:25.09 | rdieter | wabash: Folder View |
| 19:25.13 | tosky | that one |
| 19:25.53 | wabash | Ah, thank you!!! Skipped right over it for some reason. |
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| 19:27.39 | wabash | Hm. the little widget toolbar that pops up has an icon that looks like it should do full screen? but nothing happens when I press it. |
| 19:28.32 | wabash | Ah, it's draggable. |
| 19:29.46 | wabash | rdieter: tosky: thank you very much for your help. I got it now. |
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| 21:18.06 | jeroen- | someone knows how i can see my older tweets in choqok? It just shows a limited amount of tweets. |
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| 22:55.55 | quesada | I have a question about kde settings fo graphic tablets |
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| 22:56.14 | immotus | is there a DLNA kioslave in the works anywhere? |
| 22:56.16 | quesada | is this the right place to ask? Or should I try to find the wacom people? |
| 22:56.46 | immotus | immotus: n/m.. found the answer |
| 22:56.51 | thiago | quesada: wacom people |
| 22:57.36 | quesada | thiago: do you know if they have an irc channel? |
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| 23:00.33 | thiago | quesada: they probably don't |
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| 23:09.30 | hagabaka | is "Show a launcher when not running" not taking effect for anyone else? |
| 23:11.36 | hagabaka | I mean it's taking effect, but not getting saved when I exit KDE |
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