IRC log for #kde on 20121125

00:00.23Moviurocjae: oh? which KDE ?
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00:00.36cjae4.8.5
00:01.18cjaetried on from kde look but didnt seem to work
00:01.33Moviurocjae: it is by default in the plasmoids...
00:01.42Moviuroadd plasmoid, search "qui"
00:01.47Moviuroit should appear
00:02.26cjaequick launch only
00:02.58Moviurocjae: strange.... which distro ?
00:03.10cjaekubuntu 12.04
00:04.39Moviurosuper strange, 'cause I remember having used it on 4.8.5 (currently on 4.9.4)
00:04.56cjaedid you dist-upgrade?
00:05.18cjaecause I had it to till I did a clean install
00:05.50MoviuroI'm using Arch, sorry for that but isn't Kubuntu distributing vanilla KDE + some of its own things ?
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00:06.05Moviuroor distributing a whole KDE Kubuntu version ?....
00:06.47cjaeI think it is vanilla+
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00:07.30Moviurowell it is pretty strange, but I'll not be great help then, sorry cjae
00:07.46cjaefolder view and quick launch do not cut it
00:08.07cjaethats fine, a reponse is better than none at all
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01:14.57KingMucusSorry to interrupt you folks, but is gallium's performance better with llvm backend?
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02:03.17ccommallamahello world
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02:05.49KingMucushi?
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02:52.35IsarraI would like to state for the record that KDE is absolutely awesome.
02:52.42IsarraYeah.
02:57.37FRodriguesyes indeed!
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03:25.42ccommallamai attempted to setup a shortcut to my wifi toggle key, and now i cant turn my wifi hardware switch back on even with rfkill... any ideas? tips? ive googled all to hell. ddgstyle even.
03:26.15ccommallamaid rather not have to reinstall/rmdir .kde
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04:13.36bleomycinanyone have idea what this means? everything was working fine and suddenly trying to automount hd's is throwing this out of the blue "An error occurred while accessing '27.9 GiB Hard Drive', the system responded: An unspecified error has occurred.: Authentication is required"
04:13.45bleomycinwith dolphin
04:17.14chiktorDo you have windows on the same computer?
04:17.29chiktorBecause if youre accessing a different partition, you need root to mount I believe
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04:18.53bleomycinthese are different hard drives, the reason i'm confused is about 30 minutes ago they were fine and i havent rebotoed or anything, it just suddenly stopped working
04:19.44thiagopolkit issue
04:20.06thiagoit requires authentication and somehow the password request is not showing up
04:20.28bleomycinahh ok, anything i can try to fix it?
04:21.17bleomycini remember it did ask for a password when i first mounted them
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06:55.00bleomycinanyone know how to make the fonts look less like crap? heres a screencap of nytimes.com the W looks terrible http://i.imgur.com/4r06p.png
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08:02.51yecril71plSo I installed 4.9 from source and krunner treats http URL no more.
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08:38.25djusticei can't seem to access freenode.net through my isp via any other means that this web interface... which seems very wrong. any ideas?
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08:51.02bleomycinanyone know how to remap krunner to something besides alt+f2? i cant find it anywhere inshortcuts and gestures
08:51.32bleomycindjustice: check dns?
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08:55.47bleomycinderp sorry, i didnt see you could scroll the component list
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09:24.28Ab3Lhi. i'm running kde 4.8.5 with linux 3.2.0. I would like to know how to manage the icons showed in the pannel. I've installed an application (radiotray) which returns me a question mark as an icon (and not its one).
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09:55.52MoviuroAb3L: icons are located in ~/.kde4/share/icons/ICONTHEME/
09:55.57MoviuroAb3L: good luck
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10:09.20Walex2bleomycin: yes.
10:10.20Walex2bleomycin: Global Keyboard Shortcuts>KDE component=Run Command Interface
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10:19.02Walex2either you have an invalid certificate, or their certificate is self signed or for a different domain.
10:20.15shtrbis there a why I can have what cert is getting pulled ?
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10:51.38Ab3Lthank you to Moviuro, even if he's not here anymore.
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10:53.19Helio89Hi! Does one of you happen to know a music player that allows me to add smb-folders as music sources without having to mount them beforehand?
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11:10.00yecril71plThis warning is bogus; it is reported when the plugin cannot be loaded as a library
11:10.52cjaehow do I switch windows easily like from one terminal to another without having to cycle through all open windows with alt-tab
11:13.14Inkanecjae: are the windows on the same virtual desktop?
11:13.28cjaeyes
11:14.18Inkanethere is a kwin expose effect which shows all open windows of a virtual desktop and let you navigate between them with the arrow keys
11:14.31Inkaneif they are also already visible
11:14.42Inkaneyou can set a shortcut to move the focus to them
11:14.54cjaethats the only way?
11:14.57Inkanethat obviously doesn't work when they are minimized
11:15.20Inkanecjae: what kind of way are you expecting? do you have any example how it should be handled?
11:16.00cjaeI just want to jump from one terminal to the other without having to select the other with the mouse
11:16.22cjaeand not having to cycle through all open windows
11:16.36Inkanethat's totally vague
11:16.48InkaneI mentioned two ways to achieve it without the mouse
11:16.54Inkaneif you don't like them
11:17.09Inkaneyou have to describe it a little bit more detailed
11:17.39basslineranyone here using the oxygen-gtk theme with kde? are you getting black-on-black tooltips (firefox/chrome)? any solution for this? even when defining tooltip colours manually inside the gtkrc file i get that.
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11:19.31cjaeInkane: I guess this is why there is workspaces....
11:19.46yecril71plWhy does cmake say: "Found KDE 4.8 include dir"?
11:20.11Inkanecjae: ?
11:20.31Inkanesorry, I don't understand your last remark
11:21.48cjaeInkane: im not sure how to explain any differently, I thought maybe there was a way to quickly switch between two windows w/o cycling all that are open on the virtual desktop
11:23.00cjaeInkane: I dont like messing with shortcuts cause the defaults are usually good and it will assign and make a different not work
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11:23.53Inkanecjae: well, there are enough key combinations that are not assigned currently
11:24.06Inkanelike meta+shift+→
11:24.21Inkanebut that's your decission
11:24.41cjaeok
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11:26.10Helio89I get this error when trying to mount a smb-share: mount error(127): Key has expiredRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)    - any ideas?
11:26.35cjaeInkane: the other was a desktop effect?
11:26.45Inkaneyes
11:26.49Inkanejust a second
11:27.41Inkaneif you have the standard key bindings
11:27.53Inkaneit's assigned to strg+f9
11:27.54cjaeyes
11:28.30cjaecome again
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11:29.24cjaeidk what the means
11:29.50Inkaneoh, strg = ctrl
11:30.07Inkaneon an English keyboard
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11:30.33Inkanecjae: ^^^
11:31.05cjaethat will do :-)
11:31.48cjaeok when windows are zoomed out i press space bar and it says filter what does this mean
11:32.17Inkanecjae: then you can type the name of a window
11:32.29Inkaneand all non matching windows are hidden
11:32.32Inkanein the effect
11:32.47cjaecool, does that go for minimized as well
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11:33.04Inkaneyou don't need to use to press space to use it btw
11:33.10Inkanecjae: it should
11:33.12cjaeright
11:33.40cjaeok thanks a bunch ++
11:34.34cjaetried searching that and had a hell of a time finding relevant info
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12:35.20bleomycinanyone know how to bind winkey + arrow to move and resize windows like in windows 7? So winkey + L arrow moves and resized the windows to take up the whole left side of the screen
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12:56.19BluesKajhowdy all
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13:09.58cjaeMoviuro: so the quick access thing for ubuntu (not that you still care :)) is a separate package that can be installed
13:10.08cjaethere are many
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13:15.59Moviurocjae: good news for you :)
13:16.18Moviurocjae: so, have a look at any *plasm* package, thn :)
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13:17.27cjaeyes I was quite happy, since the get new widgets things didnt work
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13:19.30Moviurocjae: consider switching to Arch or Gentoo if you ever want to get the last bleeding-edge releases of our favourite DE ;) (and plenty of addons' source code in the "repos" : AUR for arch, at least)
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13:20.03Walex2alternatively the Kubuntu PPA has pretty recent versions of KDE too
13:20.34MoviuroWalex2: didn't know that though :)
13:20.52cjaeMoviuro: im taking a wack at gentoo again, on another machine every once in awhile
13:20.58Walex2bleomycin: if that is a function implemented by KDE, you can bind a key to it, else you have to write code.
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13:21.33cjaeyeah im a distro-upgrade behind and its still kde 4.8.5
13:22.00Walex2has ULTS12.04 with the KDE SC 4.9.3 from the Kubuntu PPA. A balance between stability of the infrastructure and latest for the GUI, seems reasonable to him
13:22.40Walex2cjae: if you are using ULTS 12.04 it will always be 4.8.5 because LTS is supposed to do only bug fixes, not version updates.
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13:23.59Moviurohas got arch... seems fun xD
13:24.11Walex2bleomycin: however... I have winkey+Space bound to maximize, winkey+tab bound to maximize only horizontally, and winkey+Enter bound to maximize only vertically, and they are useful
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13:26.44ychaoucheHi. In Konsole, I accidentally split konsole http://h.dropcanvas.com/521xc/konsole_split.png vertically. Ctrl+( does this and Ctrl+) splits konsole horizontally. How do I unsplit ?
13:26.57MoviuroWalex2: those keys are pretty far from one an other IMO
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13:27.14ychaoucheand second question is : is there a full list of Konsole keyboard shortcuts ?
13:27.53ychaoucheNothing in http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kde-baseapps/konsole/index.html and http://userbase.kde.org/Konsole
13:27.59Moviuroychaouche: systemsettings > shortcuts & getures > have a look and try to find "Konsole"
13:29.15ychaoucheMoviuro: thanks, I'll look there.
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13:30.24ychaoucheMoviuro: nah, konsole is not listed there
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13:31.10MoviuroKonsole > Configuration > Configure shortcuts...
13:31.17Moviuroychaouche: ^
13:31.27ychaoucheok
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13:32.44ychaouchegreat, that was Ctrl+Shift+S
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13:38.29mcmaurdoes plasma widget of kjots exists?
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13:42.01Helio89can somebody tell me why some programs (like skype) don't close when I try to close them but also don't pop up in the notification bar or task bar? The program is still running but I have no way to make it stop
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13:42.53Shaan7Helio89: what distro are you using? The question will be answered better on your distro's channel :)
13:44.02Helio89chakra, but it's pretty much pure kde so i thought I'd be better off here ;)
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14:01.11mcmaurhave u installed skype from bundle?
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14:34.08kurthindenburgychaouche: Edit->Split View-> has all the shortcuts
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14:34.21kurthindenburgs/Edit/View I mean
14:35.09ychaouchekurthindenburg: indeed !
14:35.10ychaouchethanks
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14:43.49cjaeis there some way to tell dolphin to relax when transfering a file across the lan? I keeps capping out the system its transferring to.
14:43.53cjaeit*
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14:48.57shevyhmm is strigi optional for kde? I cant get any of it to compile, so I dont get a real chance to compile the latest kde :(
14:52.56shumskishevy: where does it fail?
14:53.09shevystrigi error is at http://pastie.org/5431735
14:53.15shevyeventlistenerqueue.cpp:79:17: error: 'sleep' was not declared in this scope
14:54.38shevytried strigi-0.6.4 too, it failed somewhere else, something about MUTEX
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14:54.54shevyhmm but it is more specific with its error
14:54.57shevy"error: #error A valid thread library was not found"
14:55.26shumskiare you using git version? that is fixed there
14:55.44shevyah
14:55.51shevyhave not tried that yet, a moment :)
14:56.16shumskistrigi is required for kdelibs on non-windows platforms
15:00.22shevyhmm how do you checkout from something like git://gitorious.org/strigi/strigi-split.git ?
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15:01.34shumskiyou need to checkout every submodule
15:02.06shumskiexcept kde:strigi :-)
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15:25.35mnicei have a little problem that i didn't solve for myself never but now configuring to friend of mine new desktop and he wants that .. how can i map meta+mouse_wheel for zoom effect ? .. seems like kde are deliberately rejecting mapping for that mouse wheel
15:25.55mnices/never/ever/ - double neg
15:26.38mniceit's all about kde 4.8.x
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15:29.05ozzzyctrl-mouse wheel zooms
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15:30.09emethow do you turn off "Present Windows" activating when you hit the top left corner of the screen?
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15:30.53mniceozzzy: ctrl+mouse_wheel is default in many apps including ff and image viewers so it's nonse to have coliding shortuc in DE
15:31.01mnice**nonsense
15:31.07yecril71plBug 310653 submitted.
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15:31.59mniceozzzy: another point ? :D
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15:36.16BluesKajemet, system settings>workspace behaviour>screen edges>rightclick on the left edge , choose "no action"
15:37.24emetBluesKaj: thanks!
15:37.43BluesKajemet, np :)
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15:42.01mniceanyone is able to map mouse wheel + meta for zoom effect ?
15:42.33mnicehmm probably editing manually cfg files might help
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15:43.07ChemBroi thought, that is not possible
15:43.18mniceChemBro: ? to me
15:43.25ChemBroyes
15:43.28mnicethx
15:43.43mniceChemBro: you mean is not achieve that by editing cfg files ?
15:43.53mnicepossible to achieve ..
15:43.57mnicedamn
15:44.13ChemBroit is not supported by kde/kwin, afaik
15:44.40mniceChemBro: it's just an combination of xinput events
15:44.50mnicelike any other keys combo
15:45.00yecril71plBug 297502 updated.
15:45.01ChemBrookay, then try it
15:46.38mnicei can't find where is that cfg file
15:46.54mnicerecursively grepping in ~/.kde* and ~/.config
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16:02.49JucatoKDE doesn't support [modifier] + mouse wheel in its keyboard shortcuts at all in general (meaning you can't set that as a "keyboard shortcut")
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16:13.27hanatarohi, I got myself into a bit of trouble with KOrganizer and I need some help solving it
16:14.07hanataroI'm on Gentoo and I updated MySQL yesterday which for some reason messed up akonadi (even though akonadi-server is built without MySQL support)
16:14.41hanatarothe problem was that Qt-SQL couldn't load QMYSQL driver which I've solved by rebuilding qt-sql package
16:15.04hanatarobut before that, I updated most of KDE including KOrganizer
16:15.16hanataroand the problem is that KOrganizer now shows no entries in the calendar.
16:16.18hanatarowhich is weird because when I open the minicalendar by clicking the clock widget on main panel, the calendar entries are loaded just fine, reminders work fine and when I add new entry in KOrganizer, it appears in the minicalendar
16:16.39hanatarobut it never appears in KOrganizer window
16:17.29hanataroI'm running KDE 4.9.3 now and the upgrade was from 4.9.2
16:17.43hanataroany ideas?
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16:20.13hanatarorestarting KOrganizer didn't help, rebooting didn't help although it did solve an error message about Akonadi being unable to fetch entries from backend
16:23.10hanatarobrb
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16:27.17hanataroI'm back
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16:52.42rizlahIn the KDE input settings I can only find generic 101 key keyboard options, is there a big difference with that and an 88 key variant?
16:52.51rizlahOr is generic 101 fine for 88-key
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17:17.02T-Sourcemakeris there any documentation how to write a plugin for kget?
17:17.13T-SourcemakerI would like to have a youtube plugin based on youtube-dl
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19:14.12vadimtHi, I have a weird issue with keyboard shortcuts. Shortcuts for things like opening new tabs in konsole or konqueror don't work. Global shortcuts like Alt+F2 work. Shortcuts also work in non-KDE apps like chromium and sakura. So it seems it has to be a KDE issue.
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19:19.57simplewi have created a text file and nmed it as 'foo.txt' but when i double click in it its opened by subtitlecomposer, why is it considered a .sub type of file?
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20:54.59AristideHi !
20:55.06AristideI have a problem in Dolphin → http://wstaw.org/m/2012/11/25/plasma-desktopoB1197.png
20:55.14AristideI can't sort by Artist or other
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21:17.21cekCannot load library /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so: (/lib64/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib64/libcrypt.so.1))
21:17.26cekwhat could be the prob?
21:18.16Inkanecek: library mismatch. If you didn't compiled it yourself, ask in your distro's channel
21:18.29Inkaneah, wait
21:18.29cekcompiled it myself in gentoo
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21:18.48cekwhy the error then?
21:19.03Inkanewhich version of glibc do you have installed?
21:19.03cek<PROTECTED>
21:19.11cek<PROTECTED>
21:19.25cekglibc 2.15 now
21:19.28Inkanealso, is that a compile time or a run time error?
21:19.38cekruntime from kio_pop3
21:19.44Inkaneif runtime, rebuild kio_pop3
21:19.50cekokay
21:19.56Inkanedon't you have a compile rdepends in Gentoo?
21:20.11cekrdepends for glibc means everything
21:20.16cekand I don't like that
21:21.20Inkanewell, then good luck with ldd finding broken sos
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21:32.22Hydrarcek22: That thing tends to happen if you switch GCC version to a previous one or the like, it should never happen on a upgrade of glibc for example
21:34.36cek22Hydrar, I just updated from 2.14 to 2.15, that's all
21:35.02cek22wondering why the error so crypting. maybe it's trying to find symbol somehwere else ?
21:35.03AristideHow know if nepomuk index files ?
21:35.32AristideBecause « Nepomuk controller » stay in « File indexer is idle »
21:35.52AristideAnd nepomukservicestup get 50% of CPU x)
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21:38.15Hydrarcek22: hm, that's odd, something is definitively wrong then, I don't think there should be any ABI breaks in GCC, they should always be backwards compatibla
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22:35.10AristideHow I can monitor file indexing with dbus-monitor ?
22:35.17Aristide(from Nepomuk)
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23:19.22AristideHi again ^^
23:19.33AristideArtist or metadata sorting in Dolphin is disabled :/
23:19.35AristideHow enable this ?
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23:56.52marcus_hi there! I'm having troubles with konsole profiles. I have created some application links on my desktop, each of them launching a konsole with a specific profile. However, sometimes, a profile just stops working. I usually need to delete a recreate it with a different name to get it working. Any idea what is happening?
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