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| 02:22.50 | espalamaca | any akonadi gurus? need help with removing a persistant agent (archive_mail) |
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| 02:41.39 | espalamaca | any akonadi gurus? need help removing an agent from autostart |
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| 03:31.58 | Juan | I have a problem in 4.9. If I insert a pendrive with a dolphin instance open, the drive seeks but eventually it won't show up: however if dolphin is closed, the removable devices dialog pops up right away. |
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| 04:15.49 | guru_ | Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 3, trying to change the date/time and it foresn't ask for the password |
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| 04:28.29 | guru_ | hmm 4.8.5 and the show the desktop widget doesn't work either |
| 04:29.51 | almoxarife | guru_: tried installing 'ruby'? |
| 04:30.25 | guru_ | ruby-1.9.3_p194 |
| 04:33.24 | guru_ | hmm get the error from konsole kdesu systemsettings but it doers ask for the password |
| 04:34.19 | guru_ | used date "082722332012" |
| 04:35.20 | almoxarife | guru_: what error? |
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| 04:36.17 | almoxarife | need help from an akonadi guru, how to force 'archive_mail' agent to NOT start on login |
| 04:36.56 | guru_ | well from user when I right click on the widget Adjust Date and time it and change the time then apply it doesn't ask for the password and I get that error I posted |
| 04:37.28 | almoxarife | guru_: i came in after the error post |
| 04:37.41 | guru_ | Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 3 |
| 04:38.11 | guru_ | changed it now but the widget doesn't work right or from the setting panel either |
| 04:38.40 | almoxarife | guru_: running desktop as 'root'? |
| 04:39.00 | guru_ | user |
| 04:41.56 | almoxarife | guru_: getting a like error also, after giving user pass "Unable to authenticate/execute the action: 6, " tried to change time setting to NTP |
| 04:43.04 | almoxarife | guru_: also crashes the control module, using 4.9 |
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| 04:44.18 | almoxarife | need help from an akonadi guru, how to force 'archive_mail' agent to NOT start on login |
| 04:45.12 | guru_ | kdesu systemsettings from konsole root doesn't work either |
| 04:45.27 | guru_ | no idea |
| 04:45.48 | guru_ | I don't use kmail |
| 04:45.57 | guru_ | I think thats for kmail |
| 04:47.19 | almoxarife | it is indeed, but not needed with gmail |
| 04:48.16 | almoxarife | need help from an akonadi expert, how to force 'archive_mail' agent to NOT start on login |
| 04:49.57 | guru_ | hmm this one I know I had before but forget what fixed it . too ling ago :) |
| 04:51.16 | guru_ | hmm back then it was ck-launch-sessions not getting loaded . will chack that |
| 04:52.04 | erc | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=249217 |
| 04:52.19 | erc | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=242648 |
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| 05:34.56 | chatman_ | hello! |
| 05:35.36 | chatman_ | what is KDE? |
| 05:37.26 | chatman_ | i little speack english. who can help me? |
| 05:37.46 | tsimpson | chatman_: please look at http://kde.org/community/whatiskde for what is KDE |
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| 07:00.33 | JackSummer | no intention to start a flamefest, but i'm wondering about kde and systemd.. if i understand correctly consolekit/polkit will someday soon depend on systemd, are there any plans to avoid this future dependence? |
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| 07:03.07 | erc | you understand incorrectly |
| 07:03.33 | mase_x200 | JackSummer: hopefully not..that way everyone will be encouraged to use it =)...although if you are a BSD user i can see why this would suck |
| 07:03.38 | erc | no such dependency is planned |
| 07:03.57 | mase_x200 | likes systemd |
| 07:03.59 | erc | unless you listen to conspiracy-mongers |
| 07:04.40 | alk__ | I wanted to say, Roboto seems to be anexcellent font for KDE |
| 07:05.24 | alk__ | do others use the KDE defaults? |
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| 07:07.37 | DaZ | i use aller and consolas :f |
| 07:09.01 | JackSummer | What will replace consolekit, since it's apparently deprecated? |
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| 07:12.20 | JackSummer | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit |
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| 08:04.20 | JackSummer | well if nothing is taking its place i guess one could live without powermanagement and automounting of media. think that's the only thing in kde depending on consolekit. or maybe next kde will just have it's own replacement |
| 08:06.09 | muep | maybe someone could step in to continue maintenance of consolekit |
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| 12:24.47 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 12:54.01 | desatan | can basket integrated into kontact? |
| 12:55.19 | thiago | you're missing a verb |
| 12:55.35 | thiago | but I don't know the answer anyway. |
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| 13:08.01 | Aknot | on qtransmission ive set so that it moves complete files to new location. Will it also move those torrents which ive downloaded to non-default place? |
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| 13:51.15 | Aknot | nvm found out it doesnt |
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| 13:57.00 | BluesKaj | suddenly authentication is needed to access my other drives and partitions ,by policykit1-kde ...what gives ? |
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| 15:54.17 | Aknot_ | Im calibrating my ps3 pad. Its asking to move axis 1 2 3 and 4. Which is which? |
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| 15:54.54 | Aknot_ | oh its actually asking 25 different axis |
| 15:54.59 | Aknot_ | what the hell |
| 15:55.21 | Aknot_ | 27 |
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| 16:18.00 | shreya | hello, when I try to upload a diff to reviewboard, it says file is empty, but that is weird, since i have the diff open, and it is showing changes correctly. Please help |
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| 16:24.05 | Combatjuan | Hello. How do I set a window to show on virtual desktops 1 and 2 but not 3 and 4 (for example)? |
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| 16:48.18 | Honeyman | Hello. Can someone suggest me, how to configure different DPI for different monitors (in multi-monitor configuration), using KDE?... |
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| 17:01.29 | Brian_H | Honeyman: I use disper, seems to work well for me; but I also am using an Nvidia card |
| 17:02.03 | rdieter | Honeyman: as I understand, qt/kde already automatically respects the dpi as reported by your monitor. unfortunately, the gui to manually change dpi only allows one to set a single value |
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| 17:04.19 | Honeyman | rdieter: well, the only place I've found is inside font setting (though why? are fonts the only thing which should change for a different DPI?..), and the "automatical respecting" seems affecting nothing... |
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| 17:07.47 | rdieter | Honeyman: once upon a time, only fonts scaled with dpi, true. |
| 17:08.23 | rdieter | Honeyman: what does xdpyinfo report for dpi then? maybe it's wrong |
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| 17:09.05 | rdieter | mind you, that gtk pretty much ignores dpi and hard-codes 96 generally |
| 17:09.41 | Honeyman | rdieter: well, xdpyinfo, as well as the whole X, seems to see two monitors connected via standard KDE means as a single :0 display... |
| 17:10.24 | rdieter | I suppose you could calcuate dpi from xrandr output |
| 17:10.26 | Honeyman | rdieter: for example, xrandr reports a single "Screen 0", with two monitors listed underneath |
| 17:11.10 | rdieter | oh, then your video driver is at fault here (well, fault may be too strong, but kde expects each screen to be reported separately by xrandr) |
| 17:11.36 | rdieter | if you want it to be configurable at least |
| 17:11.36 | Honeyman | well, it says dimensions: 2680x1280 pixels (481x230 millimeters); resolution: 142x141 dots per inch |
| 17:11.55 | rdieter | there ya go |
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| 17:12.26 | Honeyman | Interesting; but why/how should it fails so... weirdly? |
| 17:12.40 | rdieter | so, my suggestion would be to consider setting kde's "hardcode 96 dpi" option too, or explore how (if) you driver can support xrandr for each screen |
| 17:13.49 | Honeyman | It's a regular Intel GM965 video, and one of the screens is laptop's LVDS1 |
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| 17:14.52 | rdieter | you haven't mentioned what "fails so... wierdly" means exactly. does the dpi per screen vary a lot? |
| 17:14.57 | bogdan__ | does anyone have experience with kconf_update ? I am trying to move some Keys to another Group in the same file, but even empty keys are moved. How can I move only nonempty keys? |
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| 17:15.18 | Honeyman | rdieter: Just to be sure I am properly understood: http://pastebin.com/cFWx2ANF |
| 17:15.51 | rdieter | oh ok, each screen *is* listed separately. good |
| 17:16.12 | Honeyman | rdieter: well, I've meant "fails as in "your video driver is at fault"" |
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| 17:16.45 | Honeyman | rdieter: but they both a bound to the same screen :0, right? |
| 17:16.57 | Honeyman | are bound |
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| 17:18.03 | rdieter | bound to the same X server, sure |
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| 17:19.37 | rdieter | Honeyman: looks like you can manually specify dpi via xrandr too: http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xrandr.1.html |
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| 17:20.48 | Honeyman | Playing with --dpi right now, but still can't find a way to say "do that for VGA1 only, leave LVDS1 untouched" |
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| 17:23.53 | Honeyman | Seems that's a general X11 issue then. |
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| 18:04.28 | devlab | hi |
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| 18:26.13 | erc | http://divby0.blogspot.ca/2011/11/howto-make-kde-remember-dual-monitor.html also issue each screen a --dpi setting |
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| 18:26.42 | fullstop | hey.. somebody might want to fix this: http://i.imgur.com/TD4hr.png |
| 18:27.57 | erc | so many randr guides, all lacking in some way |
| 18:28.08 | rdieter | fullstop: where is that error |
| 18:28.09 | rdieter | ? |
| 18:28.39 | fullstop | rdieter: http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.9/ |
| 18:29.35 | rdieter | fullstop: ah, the broken link to http://dot.kde.org/2012/05/20/remembering-claire-lotion |
| 18:30.23 | fullstop | Anyway, the link is all about remembering Claire, so it should probably be a valid link. |
| 18:30.38 | rdieter | small typo, http://dot.kde.org/2012/05/21/remembering-claire-lotion is the right link |
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| 18:49.12 | Aknot_ | How to make global shortcuts to work when playing for example games fullscreen |
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| 18:58.09 | rdieter | fullstop: thanks, websites folks fixed the link (should show up soon) |
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| 19:17.03 | aliquis | two questions: |
| 19:17.05 | Slamd64 | hello. I have one question. Konqueror icons are appearing twice in tray. I can remove them, but they reappears on reboot, is there a solution for this? |
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| 19:17.16 | Slamd64 | http://ompldr.org/vZjl0cg |
| 19:17.30 | aliquis | Desktop apperange, screen edges: Can I enable "show all windows on this desktop" or what not with keyboard rather than push mouse pointer to corner? |
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| 19:18.02 | aliquis | And regarding auto mount of portable storage device: Can't I just tell it to stfu and not ask me to mount anything / bring up the information? |
| 19:18.40 | aliquis | I can set auto mount or no auto mount but what about "don't bother me with asking manually if I want to mount but don't auto mount either"? |
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| 19:23.40 | rdieter | Slamd64: do you happen to have your default file manager set to be konqueror? |
| 19:24.16 | rdieter | because the panel will by default include links to both your default web browser and file manager. |
| 19:24.57 | rdieter | and unfortunately, there's a bug (fixed only very recently) about those links re-appearing on login (after either or both are manually removed) |
| 19:26.21 | Slamd64 | yes, file manager is set to konqueror. |
| 19:26.33 | Slamd64 | ok I will set it to dolphin |
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| 19:27.09 | Slamd64 | It's not neeeded to remove both icons, just to make appear correct (one for browser, and one for file manager). |
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| 19:28.18 | aliquis | Slamd64: They are supposed to have different icons for different modes/usages? |
| 19:28.22 | aliquis | Slamd64: interesting nonetheless |
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| 19:29.32 | Slamd64 | Yes. But I forgot about this option in system settings, thanks I will see if it solves the problem. |
| 19:29.45 | aliquis | Slamd64: Maybe check out qupzilla and dolphin/krusader? |
| 19:30.21 | aliquis | Slamd64: qupzilla isn't a KDE browser but a QT browser and krusader doesn't look like a normal desktop file and folders browser but rather like directory opus on the amiga or norton/midnight commander. |
| 19:30.40 | aliquis | but that's still a much nicer file management solution I suppose =P |
| 19:30.52 | aliquis | at least for all tasks not browsing |
| 19:31.44 | Slamd64 | Well, that might be useful. I have more than one hard drive, and lot of partitions, so I might find it as a great solution. Thanks for advice. |
| 19:32.44 | aliquis | Directory Opus 4 (_THE_ file manager) on the Amiga: http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/amiga_hacks/Amiga_SCART/DOPUS_sony-small.jpg |
| 19:33.09 | aliquis | Norton commander in DOS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Norton_commander.png |
| 19:33.29 | aliquis | Krusader in KDE: http://www.kde.org/images/screenshots/krusader.png |
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| 19:34.39 | aliquis | (DOpus 4.x back/up/parent directory is just a click on the edge to the left or the right, more convenient than a button but you can't have everything :)) |
| 19:35.34 | Slamd64 | great :) |
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| 19:36.03 | aliquis | Doups screenshot says Memory: 772K. As if that wasn't enough that's the free RAM.. Likely of 1 MB available in total.. ;) |
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| 19:38.10 | Slamd64 | see, you helped me wider than you think. I have also a garbage laptop that's keeping dust. It has 64 MB RAM, and it is able to run KDE 3.5, but it's applications are heavy, though the desktop starts very fast. So, that might come in handy to replace all heavyweight applications with those lightweight and save a lot of memory :) |
| 19:40.03 | Osakasa | Hi, cmake gives me "ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in /home/osakasa/.kde/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps". and apt-file search FindKDE4Internal.cmake output is "kdelibs5-dev: /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake" |
| 19:40.19 | Osakasa | however .../cmake/modules directory doesn't include FindKDE4Internal.cmake so i can't copy that where cmake is looking it |
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| 19:43.47 | aliquis | crap, he left.. Like he's going to use Directory Opus 4 on his 64 MB laptop .. |
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| 19:44.42 | aliquis | Anyway, what can I do with KDE to get "show all windows of current in focus application", "show all windows off this desktop" and "show all desktops with their windows / all windows of all desktops" from the keyboard? |
| 19:48.15 | Inkane | aliquis: got my reply in #chakra? |
| 19:48.25 | aliquis | yeah |
| 19:48.43 | aliquis | I watched the apperance thingy and kwin tab there earlier I think, but not through the short cut icon =P |
| 19:48.51 | aliquis | as in the other way around :) |
| 19:51.03 | aliquis | inkane: pack shrink and walk through windows may not be what I'm after but surelly there must be a way to get expose-like behavior? |
| 19:51.39 | Inkane | aliquis: best to stay in #kde, cross channel posting is confusing |
| 19:51.46 | Inkane | and yes, there is an option |
| 19:52.05 | Inkane | I know, because I'm using it |
| 19:53.40 | Inkane | ""show all desktops with their windows " can be found directly in kwin, it's called "Arbeitsflächen-Raster" (German) here |
| 19:54.01 | Inkane | maybe search for desktop grid? |
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| 19:54.51 | Inkane | aliquis: and the other options are there too |
| 19:57.11 | aliquis | Inkane: that's in german here to with english locales then |
| 19:57.19 | aliquis | though everything else is in english |
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| 19:57.32 | Inkane | colour me suprised |
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| 19:59.04 | aliquis | tiny pic captcha lol cat ... http://i47.tinypic.com/34682ds.png |
| 19:59.39 | aliquis | finster-bildschermfoto! |
| 19:59.45 | aliquis | maybe all those options is in german rather than english |
| 19:59.52 | aliquis | and that's why I didn't noticed them when scrolling .. |
| 20:00.53 | Inkane | aliquis: don't know how this could happen. Do you have a German language package installed? |
| 20:01.09 | aliquis | no, just swedish and english |
| 20:01.38 | aliquis | both in locale.gen and kde I think, but english trumfing swedish in both |
| 20:01.53 | aliquis | but in chakra .. ;) |
| 20:02.33 | Inkane | aliquis: I suppose atm that this is a chakra bug, so please let's continue on #chakra |
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| 21:02.26 | sombragris | hi there... |
| 21:02.33 | sombragris | I'm having trouble with KWallet |
| 21:02.50 | sombragris | is there a way to disable KWallet for specific apps ? I would like to disable it for NetworkManager |
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| 21:05.01 | erc | http://danielsmedegaardbuus.dk/2012-08-10/how-to-disable-kwallet-integration-in-google-chrome/ |
| 21:05.32 | erc | excellent question, wrong channel |
| 21:06.21 | sombragris | erc: why? I'm using Plasma-NM |
| 21:06.41 | sombragris | AFAICT it's a KDE app. |
| 21:07.08 | erc | just saying better ask google first |
| 21:08.27 | sombragris | erc: indeed, I saw it. Nice tip. will try it |
| 21:08.46 | sombragris | is getting increasingly annoyed by Kwallet |
| 21:09.12 | erc | I kill it with akonadi and others |
| 21:09.37 | erc | just because it ships, doesn't mean I want it |
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| 21:17.59 | sombragris | erc: I had it disabled |
| 21:18.16 | sombragris | but I re-enabled to try kde-telepathy and got burned :S |
| 21:21.19 | troy | hrm, kwallet hasn't ever really bothered me, except the initial setup dialog |
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| 23:06.18 | Aknot | If i download program from their site, will it get upgraded when i upgrade my system? |
| 23:06.50 | thiago | whose site? |
| 23:07.04 | Aknot | the programs own site |
| 23:07.14 | Aknot | like openttd for example |
| 23:07.18 | thiago | never heard of it |
| 23:07.29 | Aknot | the repo doesnt have the newest version |
| 23:07.33 | wgosling | Generally no. |
| 23:07.38 | thiago | do they have a package that works with your distribution's package management system? |
| 23:08.20 | Aknot | but i installed opera and i checked in software sources and its ppa is there |
| 23:10.59 | wgosling | Aknot: ya. there are some exceptions. Google Chrome also does the same thing, but most of the time they won't do that. I took a peak in the openttd package, and it doesn't look like it would add a thingy to do automatic updates. |
| 23:11.20 | Aknot | :( |
| 23:11.58 | Aknot | but if i download it from software center/synaptic can i update it? |
| 23:12.29 | wgosling | only to the updated version in the repo |
| 23:13.06 | Aknot | ok |
| 23:13.19 | wgosling | updated == outdated |
| 23:13.34 | Aknot | i hate non rolling release :( |
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| 23:15.05 | wgosling | I am kinda surprised that more apps don't add a repo/ppa when you install the package from their website. |
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| 23:21.08 | Aknot | So if i upgrade my os to new version it wont touch the program which ive downloaded from its own website? even if it can be found on the repos |
| 23:22.20 | tsimpson | your package manager can't update things that it doesn't know about |
| 23:22.36 | aliquis | Aknot: Did you downloaded the package individually and installed it or did you fetch it through the package manager which had the repository added? |
| 23:23.07 | Aknot | invidually |
| 23:23.14 | aliquis | if both sources have the same package / name I assume it may be updated anyway, just try? |
| 23:23.17 | wgosling | Aknot: If the repo updates to a version that is higher than the one you manually installed, it will start auto-updating it again. |
| 23:23.34 | wgosling | Aknot: assuming the package name is the same as the one in the repo |
| 23:23.46 | aliquis | wgosling: I have no idea how PPA work but if they have one why not add it yourself and then fetch the package? |
| 23:24.07 | aliquis | tsimpson: but since he didn't build the package instead but rather just installed a package maybe it can? |
| 23:24.48 | tsimpson | well you install a package, then the package manager will know about it |
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| 23:25.04 | aliquis | Aknot: can't you search for the package and see what version you have installed and what version your package manager finds if their ppa is there and then if they have a never version see if it can update? |
| 23:25.06 | aliquis | I assume it can |
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| 23:26.22 | aliquis | whole os upgrade is of course more efficient than rolling upgrades with dependencies, well, in bandwidth than rolling upgrades without dependencies to =P |
| 23:26.27 | Aknot | I installed it to home folder. Package manager doesnt recognize it |
| 23:26.37 | aliquis | so it wasn't a .deb or so? |
| 23:26.56 | Aknot | it was .run |
| 23:26.58 | aliquis | if you have the ppa is there anything stopping you from just removing it and install the package that way instead? |
| 23:27.09 | Aknot | i dont have the ppa |
| 23:27.11 | aliquis | or is anything linked / configured for it |
| 23:27.15 | aliquis | what was it? |
| 23:27.23 | Aknot | pokerth |
| 23:27.35 | aliquis | you said opera above? anyway |
| 23:27.45 | Aknot | well opera did add the ppa |
| 23:27.53 | Aknot | even thought its not open source @@ |
| 23:28.13 | Aknot | omg opera is on repos |
| 23:28.14 | Aknot | wtf |
| 23:28.29 | Aknot | so thats why it added it |
| 23:28.29 | aliquis | additional repositories than non-free I suppose |
| 23:28.35 | aliquis | do you have any savings locally you believe? |
| 23:28.37 | tsimpson | opera has it's own repository, during the configuration of the .deb then enable it |
| 23:28.51 | tsimpson | same with google chrome |
| 23:29.24 | Aknot | well anyway going to sleep, cu |
| 23:29.25 | aliquis | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwibber-daily/ppa |
| 23:29.44 | aliquis | sudo apt-get install pokerth |
| 23:29.48 | aliquis | and you'll have both versions |
| 23:29.56 | aliquis | unless something is overwritten that is =p |
| 23:30.46 | Aknot | If i put computer to sleep does it shut down programs like quassel? |
| 23:30.54 | Aknot | ive always shut down it before |
| 23:30.58 | aliquis | not really a rolling dist vs no rolling dist issue if you install things yourself without a package manager |
| 23:31.01 | Aknot | i want to try to put sleep |
| 23:31.10 | aliquis | I suppose |
| 23:31.27 | aliquis | try the sleep |
| 23:31.32 | aliquis | hopefully it can wake up again =P |
| 23:31.33 | Aknot | put rolling release gets newest version before non rolling |
| 23:31.40 | Aknot | but* |
| 23:31.44 | aliquis | if someone build it |
| 23:31.58 | aliquis | you've got more chance of getting broken software to =P |
| 23:32.08 | Aknot | okok |
| 23:32.15 | Aknot | but now me and computer sleep :D |
| 23:32.17 | aliquis | since people may not have tried it out all that much |
| 23:32.20 | aliquis | ok, gn |
| 23:32.26 | Aknot | bb |
| 23:32.58 | aliquis | I think new versions is most interesting for things which got a connection with the "outside" (browser, pdf reader, plugins..) |
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| 23:34.36 | wgosling | well openttd is a game (or it looks like a game) so that would be interesting to have the latest version. |
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| 23:50.31 | aliquis | openttd? I read pokerth, oh well :D |
| 23:50.39 | aliquis | And the mentioning of opera to .. |
| 23:50.43 | aliquis | anyway he's gone =p |
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