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20:00.19ReithCould kmail be configured to use SOCKS proxy? seems it doesn't use kde proxy configurations..
20:00.37thiagono
20:00.42thiagoI think it was possible in KDE 2
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20:01.40Reiththiago: ty
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20:10.08cb400fReith: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Medias/images/iso/KDE-Two-Live.i686-2.2.2-Build1.1.iso  <-- kde2 live cd :-)
20:10.37Reithcb400f: lol
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21:22.24BarkingFishEvening all.  I need to file a bug on something connected to apper, only I don't know whether it's part of apper, or a seperate program.  Could someone help me figure it out please?
21:24.08BarkingFishI'm on KDE 4.8.4, Kubuntu 12.04, KDE installed from ubuntu packages.  The issue is that I was just updating my software sources, and went to remove the google repository.  I took that out, and then went to remove the google key I had for verifying their files.
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21:24.45BarkingFishWhen I tried to do this, I got an error message: "Unable to remove public key <google-dist> - please report this as a bug."
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21:25.33BarkingFishI don't know if the software sources and edit origins features are part of apper, or if they're a wholly seperate prog though.  I don't want to file against the wrong program or package
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21:41.52KhasIf it's a repository issue, chances are you'd be best asking in #ubuntu.
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21:42.52BarkingFishKhas, it's not a repo issue, this is a bug with the program.
21:43.09BarkingFishI tried to take a key out, and was told it was unable to remove the key, and to report it as a bug.
21:43.31KhasOh I misread, sorry.
21:43.39KhasDoes the program run as root?
21:43.45BarkingFishI want to know which program I report the bug as being in?  All I know is it pops up as part of apper, but whether it is actually apper, or a sub program that it calls, I am not sure.
21:43.54KhasAs far as I remember, changing keys needs root access.
21:43.59BarkingFishKhas, it needs permission from me to edit the origins of the software
21:44.11BarkingFishso it uses root perms, yes
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21:45.00KhasI'd try changing the permissions on the key to 777, then try again.  If it works, then it sounds like a bug with whichever bit of the chain is accessing the file.  That might help narrow down the problem.
21:45.50BarkingFishKhas, i don't know where the key is stored, or how to change its permissions. If i could find it manually, I wouldn't be using a GUI program to do it :D
21:46.04BarkingFishI rarely, if ever, dabble on the CLI - it's like greek to me.
21:46.32KhasI -think- the repos are kept in /etc/apt/sources
21:46.41Khas(It's been months since I got rid of ubuntu)
21:46.53KhasThe keys may be kicking around in /etc/apt too
21:47.14KhasFor that bit in particular, I'd definitely ask in #ubuntu.  Or #kubuntu, if there is such a thing.
21:47.43BarkingFishi only had the key bacause I installed google earth, and since google earth doesn't work on 12.04, no point in my keeping the repo
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21:48.21BarkingFishhi BluesKaj :)
21:48.38BluesKajhey BarkingFish:)
21:49.25BluesKajwe have t-storms here . lots of line noisew on our phones and the dsl connection dropped
21:49.33Khasgoogle earth seems to cause a lot of problems :-(
21:51.13BarkingFishBluesKaj, join the club. We had a beauty here earlier today that knocked most of the Wifi out for a few hours round here.
21:51.42BluesKajKhas:  make sure you have lsb-core installed and if you are on 64bit , ia32libs is another requirement
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21:52.34KhasBluesKaj: I have no interest in it myself, I've just seen a lot of threads about it :-)
21:52.56BluesKajkhas ok , google maps works for me :)
21:53.34Khasopenstreetmaps ftw :-P
21:53.56BarkingFishBluesKaj, I was the one having problems.
21:54.37BarkingFishI took google earth off here, since it wasn't working, and when I tried to remove google's repo and the key, i got told it couldn't take the key off, and to report it as a bug.
21:54.59BluesKajgoogle came thru our little town a recorded in the crappiest part of town ... it makes it me feel underpriveleged :)
21:55.07BarkingFishI was trying to assess which part of apper I needed to report, or if it was apper which I needed to report at all, and not some sub program it attaches to
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21:57.23BluesKajBarkingFish: I rely on the sources.list mostly and synaptic ...to me it's still the best package manager of all
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21:58.57BluesKajwell , dinnertime here ,...bbl
22:00.59KhasBarkingFish: that's a good idea, actually, I think synaptics can remove keys? I know it can edit the sources list at least.
22:02.13BarkingFishKhas, i'll take a look, but I've never used synaptic before.
22:02.39BarkingFishI used to use kpackagekit, which I got on really well with, and carried on into apper when it switched at 11.04
22:02.49BarkingFish*11.10
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22:10.03Khassynaptic is a very good gui for it all.
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22:13.41BarkingFishKhas, that may be true - but I have a problem which means that once I get into using something, I hate when it changes, or I have to use something else.  I like the routine of knowing what to do with what program, and being able to use it.
22:14.50BarkingFishI know people get shot down for mentioning it on IRC, but I have Asperger Syndrome, which is in essence, Socially interactive autism.
22:15.33BarkingFishI may try the program, but it's unlikely I will continue to use it permanently
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22:23.03KhasBarkingFish: so do I, I understand.
22:23.13KhasI understand, it's why I dropped ubuntu entirely (other than it being just plain wrong in some cases) and went screaming back to gentoo :-D
22:23.23Khas(Sorry, my irc client decided not to send that last one)
22:23.28BarkingFishlol
22:24.18BarkingFishIt's odd, because I was always quite weird at school, and into my teens and late 20's.  I wasn't formally diagnosed with AS until I was 31, 7 years ago!
22:24.32BarkingFishYou'd have thought it would have been picked up well before then, but no.
22:25.09KhasSame here, although I'm still awaiting formal diagnosis.  My therapist recognised it, shame I didn't have one before now.
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