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| 03:37.53 | ALutama | if I do compiz --replace how do I go back to KDE's default ? |
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| 03:59.54 | pietro10 | Hi. Does Kopete save chat logs forever? |
| 04:00.36 | Sho_ | yeah |
| 04:00.43 | pietro10 | good to know, thanks |
| 04:00.57 | Sho_ | np |
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| 11:00.15 | o_a | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.42 | o_a | it, but, some time ago, I used the broadcom-wl driver for my wireless network card and now I use the kernel driver. |
| 11:03.20 | cb400f | prolly not a kde issue... does it work better using the gnomer NM applet? |
| 11:03.34 | cb400f | check your NetworkManager log perhaps |
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| 11:14.29 | o_a | cb400f: Where's that log? |
| 11:14.50 | cb400f | dunno.. depends on your distro I guess... /var/log/NetworkManager for opensuse |
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| 12:11.48 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
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| 17:29.52 | BarkingFish | Hi guys, could someone please advise me (Kubuntu 12.04 / KDE 4.8.4) - which part of KDE would cover the menu controls and functions under them? I need to file a bug with the "Delete" command from that part of the interface, but I don't know which category to file it under. |
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| 17:32.24 | BarkingFish | The problem is that there are so many areas under which to file the bug, I don't even know where to begin :) |
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| 17:39.04 | kdenewbie123 | hello, I have kde 4.8.4 and don't have this in it: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101701/ . Any clues why not? |
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| 17:40.50 | kdenewbie123 | the cursors i'm changing size have are oxygen cursors that should have two sizes ... |
| 17:41.58 | Daskreech | I have it here on KDE 4.9 |
| 17:42.28 | kdenewbie123 | according to the schedule it should be there in 4.8 already :( |
| 17:43.02 | kdenewbie123 | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.8_Feature_Plan#kde-workspace |
| 17:43.25 | kdenewbie123 | Daskreech: so you can change it for oxygen cursors? |
| 17:43.41 | kdenewbie123 | maybe mine are not scalable yet |
| 17:43.53 | Daskreech | Maybe. |
| 17:43.54 | BarkingFish | moving to #kde-devel |
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| 17:45.49 | kdenewbie123 | aha, the scaling shows when run with root privileges |
| 17:45.52 | kdenewbie123 | omg |
| 17:46.05 | kdenewbie123 | pretty silly |
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| 17:53.26 | Daskreech | Hmm strange then |
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| 18:30.27 | Daskreech | can I use k3b to write out an ISO? |
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| 18:35.11 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: why not? |
| 18:35.54 | Daskreech | phoenix_firebrd: Cause it won't allow me to? I'm making an audio CD from some OGG files and it won't highlight the Burn button |
| 18:36.32 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: did you install the restricted stuff? |
| 18:36.46 | Daskreech | a) yes b) what for? |
| 18:37.01 | Daskreech | I shouldn't need .ogg restrictions |
| 18:37.11 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: sorry ,you are ufing ogg, right |
| 18:37.24 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: *using |
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| 18:38.00 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: did you install the "cd codecs" |
| 18:38.08 | Daskreech | What now? |
| 18:38.47 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: is it installed? |
| 18:39.15 | Daskreech | I'm not sure what CD codecs are |
| 18:39.48 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: when you start k3b, does it ask you to install something? |
| 18:40.05 | Daskreech | lemme restart it and see :-D |
| 18:40.24 | Khas | Any reason why Konqueror would be giving me a 406? o.o Is there anything it -can't- handle? |
| 18:41.10 | Daskreech | phoenix_firebrd: It says I have no CD drive but I presume that's not what youare reffering to |
| 18:41.24 | phoenix_firebrd | brb |
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| 18:45.02 | Daskreech | Ha! Got it! |
| 18:46.04 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: what happened? |
| 18:46.12 | Daskreech | I'm an idiot :) |
| 18:46.46 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: why? |
| 18:47.06 | Daskreech | There are two image buttons you have to check to make it work |
| 18:48.15 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: so not can you burn? |
| 18:49.02 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: *now |
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| 18:54.29 | Daskreech | yes |
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| 19:02.39 | desti | kmail QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. <-- any idea how to fix this? |
| 19:03.41 | cb400f | where do you get this warning? .. and is there any actual problem? |
| 19:04.36 | desti | when starting kmail and there after nothing more happens, kmail doesn't show up |
| 19:05.59 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: that doesnt create any problem |
| 19:06.10 | desti | hmmm |
| 19:07.05 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: the problem is in some thing else |
| 19:07.33 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: what is your kde version? |
| 19:07.57 | desti | 4.8.4 (gentoo) |
| 19:09.05 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: is akonadi running? |
| 19:10.00 | desti | yes |
| 19:11.36 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: is kontact working for you? |
| 19:12.16 | desti | yes |
| 19:13.00 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: what happens when you click kmail in kontact? |
| 19:13.51 | desti | nothing |
| 19:14.19 | desti | but it shortly shows "Application is running standalone. Foregrounding." |
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| 19:15.33 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: goto this location ".kde/share/config/" in your home directory |
| 19:16.45 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: there can you find files with names having "kmail"? |
| 19:16.53 | desti | ah, there where now about 10 defunced kmail threads, killed them all and now it's starting up again \o/ |
| 19:17.14 | phoenix_firebrd | desti: thats silly man |
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| 19:29.42 | robertzaccour | Whats the future for the kde taskbar? Will it always look like vista? Mabye it will become more like a dock? |
| 19:29.55 | robertzaccour | thats the only downside with KDE just curious |
| 19:30.12 | desti | but kmail still something broken, i can only read about 10 mails, thereafter every other mail shows only a waiting screen "Retrieving Folder Contents Please wait..." waiting some minutes and the mail might show up, but for the next i need to wait again |
| 19:30.50 | robertzaccour | desti, have you tried Thunderbird? |
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| 19:31.11 | desti | don't want |
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| 19:33.37 | desti | maybe removing all folders and add them new fixes this, let's try it |
| 19:36.35 | desti | is there something to convert old kmail folders into a newer faster format? |
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| 20:04.33 | cb400f | robertzaccour: icontasks has been included in the SC since 4.8.. you may want to try that instead of the default taskbar widget |
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| 20:17.35 | skreech__ | robertzaccour: The future is anything that you like it to be. The taskbar is a small modular replaceable component |
| 20:21.46 | robertzaccour | is it possible to replace the kde sound options with the gnome style one? |
| 20:28.37 | Daskreech | robertzaccour: do you mean the files? Yes you can |
| 20:28.56 | Daskreech | if you mean the options dialog ... Umm I guess if you break out an compiler |
| 20:29.42 | robertzaccour | Daskreech, no I mean the sound settings. I prefer the Gnome style sound settings the interface I mean. |
| 20:29.54 | Daskreech | robertzaccour: Break out a compiler |
| 20:30.11 | robertzaccour | Daskreech, I don't know how to do all that stuff |
| 20:30.22 | Daskreech | well that's how you'd do it right now |
| 20:30.36 | robertzaccour | I was hoping there is a way to add new and remove current |
| 20:30.47 | robertzaccour | a simple command or something |
| 20:33.49 | Daskreech | A options dialog for options dialog? |
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| 20:34.21 | phoenix_firebrd | robertzaccour: install pavucontrol |
| 20:34.47 | robertzaccour | phoenix_firebrd, ok thanks |
| 20:35.01 | phoenix_firebrd | robertzaccour: yw |
| 20:35.31 | Daskreech | What's pavucontrol? |
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| 20:35.55 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: thats the auto settings app you see in gnome |
| 20:35.56 | Daskreech | Ah Puleaudio |
| 20:36.13 | Daskreech | Never thought of that. does GNOME rely on pulseaudio now? |
| 20:36.24 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: ubuntu does |
| 20:36.33 | Daskreech | Unity Shell? |
| 20:36.57 | phoenix_firebrd | Daskreech: the whole ubuntu |
| 20:37.25 | Daskreech | Ah. robertzaccour Are you on Ubuntu? |
| 20:37.45 | robertzaccour | Daskreech, yep |
| 20:37.52 | Daskreech | Well that solves that |
| 20:37.57 | robertzaccour | 12.04 with Gnome-Shell and Docky |
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| 20:38.12 | robertzaccour | Daskreech, I meant I wanna see if I can do it in KDE easily |
| 20:38.16 | robertzaccour | the sound settings |
| 20:38.29 | Daskreech | I guess just use the Gnome one ;) |
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| 20:51.38 | BluesKaj | I realize this isn't a kde issue , but i'll ask anyway. I have an odd issue (to me at least) with grub. It appears to be installed on the boot (main HDD) priority , but grub always lists the 2nd HDD as the default drive to auto boot if no selection is made. Both drives are sata and the main drive is the priority in th BIOS. |
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| 20:54.09 | Daskreech | BluesKaj: is it the priority in the grub config ? |
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| 20:57.43 | BluesKaj | daskreech kde-config-grub2 list the 12.10 kernel as priority |
| 20:58.34 | Daskreech | where is that kernel? |
| 20:58.58 | BluesKaj | but the main drive which is the BIOS priority , has the 12.04 installed on it |
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| 21:00.33 | BluesKaj | the 3,5 kernel/12.10 is listed at the top here on 12.10 |
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| 21:03.00 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: where is the boot flag present? |
| 21:03.19 | BluesKaj | all my drives are boot flagged |
| 21:03.41 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: grub install ina ll drivers? |
| 21:03.56 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: grub installed in all drivers? |
| 21:06.12 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: i think you are editing the wrong grub |
| 21:07.44 | BluesKaj | I don't think so , because when I tried to switch drive priorities , this drive went t the grub rescue prompt |
| 21:08.45 | BluesKaj | sorry this drive is an older IDE, the main is a sata |
| 21:08.52 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: do you have two linux installs in the two hdds separately? |
| 21:09.47 | BluesKaj | wonders if IDE is priority by dfault |
| 21:10.09 | phoenix_firebrd | hdd is ide? |
| 21:10.23 | BluesKaj | yes phoenix_firebrd 2 linuxes on separate HDDs |
| 21:10.49 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: did you try the grub config from the other linux install? |
| 21:11.59 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: if you have a livecd , then remove the boot flags from the hdd which you dont want |
| 21:12.20 | rob0 | boot flags don't matter |
| 21:12.52 | BluesKaj | this drive , which has 12.10 is the IDE , and it seems overrde the prority set in the bios |
| 21:13.38 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: that is a must |
| 21:13.49 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: you need to choose which to boot from bios |
| 21:14.20 | BluesKaj | bothe linux installs appear to have grub installed , because when I do a grub-update it does so without errors |
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| 21:15.03 | BluesKaj | on both installs , that is |
| 21:16.18 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: did you try if the change in priority in bios helps? |
| 21:17.42 | BluesKaj | yes , this drive as priority in the bios when booted gives the grub rescue prompt as I said previously |
| 21:20.44 | BluesKaj | strange stuff, it's not a big deal , it's justr annoying me becaus eI can't rid of the disk check since I tried to help someone with boot issue a couple of weeks ago |
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| 21:20.56 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: after changing the drive priority in bios did you try updating the grub config? |
| 21:21.06 | BluesKaj | yes |
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| 21:22.08 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: problem solved? |
| 21:23.46 | BluesKaj | when I'm booted into this drive the dev/sdxs are all reversed from each other as well |
| 21:25.35 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: does that create a problem for you? |
| 21:26.30 | BluesKaj | it's the constant disk checking at boot that really bothers me , it's a pita |
| 21:27.19 | BluesKaj | the grub thing doesn't bug me nearly as much |
| 21:27.36 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: have you made your drives to be automounted at startup? |
| 21:29.45 | BluesKaj | where in startup , I assune when I choose the kernel in grub the drive mounts |
| 21:29.52 | BluesKaj | 'assume |
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| 21:31.09 | BluesKaj | do you mean in sytemsettings removable devices ? |
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| 21:32.09 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: ya |
| 21:32.19 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: in removable drives |
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| 21:33.12 | BluesKaj | why ? |
| 21:34.51 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: when a drive which is added for auto mounting is not present, the disk check will happen during startup and you get the error message |
| 21:35.11 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: can you check the fstab file in /etc/ |
| 21:35.23 | BluesKaj | no , they were all set to automount |
| 21:36.42 | BluesKaj | yes but fstab changes due to the diferen device assignments that take place when I switch drives , sda becomes sdg and so on |
| 21:37.11 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: but the entry is not changed in fstab |
| 21:37.51 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: check if you have unknow drives listed there |
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| 21:38.25 | BluesKaj | I already tried configuring fstab , fstab changed after each boot depending on the drive I booted into |
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| 21:40.52 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: you mean the fstab in the first hDD? |
| 21:41.34 | BluesKaj | in both , neither could properly keep track of the device assigned sdx |
| 21:42.08 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: when uuid, these problems wont occur |
| 21:42.16 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: when using uuid, these problems wont occur |
| 21:42.48 | BluesKaj | btw phoenix_firebrd , I get the diskcheck on only one one drive , not both |
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| 21:43.05 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: do you have these installations from a long tiome ago? |
| 21:43.14 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: ya, that is expected |
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| 21:43.27 | BluesKaj | phoenix_firebrd, I don't knw much about fixing uuids |
| 21:43.52 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: do you have these installations from a long time ago? |
| 21:43.55 | BluesKaj | nope , since march |
| 21:44.07 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: fresh installs? |
| 21:44.42 | BluesKaj | 12.04 is fresh , and 12.10 is since it was released as alpha |
| 21:44.52 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: an example entry from my fstab "UUID=a1d1a03e-b36f-4d55-9769-c9e2efb3586b / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1" |
| 21:45.31 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: see the disks are identified by their id , so any change in the order wont affect |
| 21:45.44 | BluesKaj | yeah all my fstab entries are UUID |
| 21:46.07 | BluesKaj | 4 of them |
| 21:46.44 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: that means you have four partitions? |
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| 21:47.19 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: does whats given by "blkid" matches what in fstab? |
| 21:47.20 | BluesKaj | phoenix_firebrd, http://pastebin.com/yGfv0xdy |
| 21:47.48 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: paste the output of "blkid" |
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| 21:49.39 | BluesKaj | phoenix_firebrd, http://pastebin.com/AkecsVd5 |
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| 21:52.16 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: the fstab seems to be fine |
| 21:52.32 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: check the other fstab |
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| 21:54.11 | BluesKaj | phoenix_firebrd, well . I'd like to continue with this but it's dinnertime here , and then I have a gig to do this evening. |
| 21:54.38 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: ok |
| 21:54.44 | BluesKaj | abd i don't really feel like rebooting into the other drive atm |
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| 21:55.04 | BluesKaj | qand |
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| 21:55.16 | phoenix_firebrd | BluesKaj: ya, its really frustrating |
| 21:55.20 | BluesKaj | quando quando |
| 21:57.10 | BluesKaj | maybe we can discuss this further in the next few days ...it's not insurmountable, just annoying |
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| 21:57.43 | BluesKaj | c ya later |
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| 23:18.05 | Wakou | I ant Amarok to be like it was . |
| 23:18.16 | Wakou | AAAARRRRRGGGHHHH!!!!! |
| 23:19.46 | thiago | install the old version |
| 23:22.38 | Wakou | and also I would like it to go away when I tell it to//// How do I? Do I have to 'kill process' etc? |
| 23:23.22 | thiago | what do you mean by "go away"? |
| 23:23.30 | thiago | minimise? hide in the system tray? quit? |
| 23:24.36 | Wakou | I mean stop; finish; desist; bugger off! |
| 23:24.41 | na-utusan | not sure but uncheck in settings - stayt in systray when closed |
| 23:24.54 | thiago | Wakou: click that X button at the top right of the window |
| 23:24.56 | thiago | the window closes |
| 23:25.02 | thiago | (the application stays running, as is expected) |
| 23:25.03 | Wakou | na-utusan: Thank you |
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| 23:25.55 | na-utusan | Wakou: NP |
| 23:26.10 | Wakou | but when I no longer want an app I need to tell it to stop. |
| 23:26.22 | na-utusan | Wakou: you might try clementine |
| 23:26.33 | thiago | Wakou: do you mean "quit" ? |
| 23:26.40 | thiago | Wakou: do you want the process to exit? |
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| 23:27.34 | Wakou | No I want Amarok like it was 2 years ago. A brilliant and beautiful music app |
| 23:27.47 | thiago | Wakou: install the old version then |
| 23:28.16 | Wakou | Now a horrible useless and annoying etc |
| 23:28.26 | Wakou | thiago: |
| 23:28.42 | thiago | yes? |
| 23:28.43 | na-utusan | Wakou: then try clementine |
| 23:29.23 | Wakou | TY but IDK how to backtrak versions without foobariing my entire KDE install |
| 23:29.45 | thiago | then try what na-utusan is recommending |
| 23:31.50 | Wakou | thiago: ty I am slightly calmer now, and yes, I do know how to close a window, amarok is still unwantedly running in my taskabar... |
| 23:32.00 | na-utusan | Wakou: http://www.clementine-player.org/ |
| 23:32.11 | thiago | Wakou: that's expected for all KDE applications that use the system tray |
| 23:32.17 | thiago | Wakou: closing the window does not quit the application |
| 23:32.23 | thiago | Wakou: if you want to quit, use Ctrl+Q or the menu |
| 23:34.05 | Wakou | thiago: TY but really amarok used to be the BEST music app ever and now is NOT |
| 23:34.39 | Wakou | I will try clementine |
| 23:35.35 | na-utusan | I don't use amarok but you can tell it to 'not stay in systray when closed' as I said above |
| 23:35.48 | Wakou | but I am so sorry because amarok did everything I wanted from a music app |
| 23:35.55 | na-utusan | same thing with clementine |
| 23:36.20 | Wakou | and then changed........................ |
| 23:37.05 | thiago | yes, we know it changed |
| 23:37.17 | thiago | some of the devs who disliked the way it was going created clementine |
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| 23:41.33 | Wakou | thiago: OK I will try clementine, I am not a person who needs music every day but amarok was so GOOD when I wanted to hear xxxx it would find xxxx and play it. |
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| 23:42.02 | Wakou | now it just plays whatever the F it wants to. |
| 23:42.21 | thiago | only listens to one stream anyway |
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| 23:43.06 | Wakou | thiago: Me too usually but sometimes.... |
| 23:43.26 | thiago | the other 1% of the time, I use spotify |
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| 23:44.12 | Wakou | Friends come round, "Have you any 'xxxxxx' ? |
| 23:44.31 | Wakou | Old Amarok, Yes, NP. |
| 23:45.08 | Wakou | New Amarok, 'Yes but IDK how to play it' |
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