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| 03:15.43 | leaeasy | Hi,everyone~how can i play video files embedded konqueror? |
| 03:23.44 | skreech__ | embedded in konqueror? Check the settings you can use an internal viewer or external I would guess that it's set to external now |
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| 03:28.59 | leaeasy | skreech__: i'm sorry i cann't find any opition to set it |
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| 03:29.07 | skreech__ | leaeasy: hmm ok |
| 03:33.03 | skreech__ | leaeasy: where aer you looking? |
| 03:33.25 | leaeasy | skreech__: konqueror |
| 03:33.48 | skreech__ | Yes Konqueror has a very large settings page. |
| 03:33.52 | craigevil | probably depends on what apps you have installed, I would install if you dont already have: konqueror-nsplugins, kpartsplugin and either kplayer or kmplayer |
| 03:34.08 | skreech__ | ah right konqueror-nsplugins would help |
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| 03:39.55 | leaeasy | thanks, i have solved the problem |
| 03:40.16 | craigevil | as for embedding Settings>File Associations>video |
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| 03:51.48 | skreech__ | leaeasy: what did you do? |
| 03:55.33 | leaeasy | skreech__: i just install kmplayer |
| 03:55.41 | skreech__ | leaeasy: THat woudl work |
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| 04:12.09 | N9NU | if that idiot SparkGap comes back on anytime, someone please ban his $$$ may as well lock him out of this channel like all the others hes out of |
| 04:13.04 | ruli | i dont like bans |
| 04:13.54 | N9NU | no one does...but i dont like someone out of the blue defacing others character for no reason... |
| 04:14.26 | ruli | grow a thicker skin |
| 04:16.31 | N9NU | lol |
| 04:16.42 | N9NU | ill see to it another way |
| 04:17.27 | N9NU | religion should be one of those 'no no' topics in here |
| 04:17.57 | N9NU | back to work |
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| 04:52.55 | craigevil | N9NU, [19:04] * Sho_ sets ban on *!~michael@unaffiliated/gapspark |
| 04:53.24 | Sho_ | N9NU: I also informed Freenode staff |
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| 06:03.08 | johnny69 | Does anyone know what is wrong with some of these plasma widgets? For instance, trying to install/run the konsole widget I get the following error, "the Object could not be created for the following reasons: Could not create a python script-engine for the Python Konsole Widget". Anyways, I've seen this numerous times with other things and it appears the general forums are filled with the same problem showing up. Any ideas folks? |
| 06:03.08 | johnny69 | 11.4/Kde 4.8.x) Thank you. |
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| 06:04.56 | DaZ | johnny69: you need some packages |
| 06:05.25 | DaZ | in arch it'd be kdebindings-python |
| 06:06.13 | johnny69 | DaZ: Thank you. I will look for that now. |
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| 06:12.17 | harolddo2g | also sometimes the widgets just aren't going to work |
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| 07:13.14 | daniel3 | Does KDE have any built in proximity bluetooth support? |
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| 07:30.58 | Tm_T | daniel3: you mean like kbluelock? |
| 07:31.11 | daniel3 | yeah, but that is unsupported it looks like. |
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| 11:16.09 | abchirk | strange thing happen.. I cant click with mouse on any windows.. but in current window mouse is working fine.. any ideas? |
| 11:17.33 | abchirk | oh right click isnt workin either?? |
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| 11:24.58 | ompaul | abchirk: alt f4 and which o/s and so on |
| 11:25.21 | abchirk | why alt + F4? its gentoo |
| 11:25.32 | abchirk | some minutes ago all worked fine |
| 11:25.48 | ompaul | abchirk: alt f4 closes foreground window in kde and gnome |
| 11:25.58 | ompaul | and on that unmentionalble thing |
| 11:26.26 | abchirk | yeah.. I can switch windows with TAB -.. but not really mouse.. also moving window doesnt work... I can only work in current windows with left click and mouse wheel |
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| 11:43.47 | abchirk | mhh when I do kwin --replace I can move windows for a very short time |
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| 11:43.57 | abchirk | but after 1 second not anymore :(/ |
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| 11:48.31 | abchirk | okay I deleted .kde4/share/config/sessions/kwin* |
| 11:48.35 | abchirk | working again :( |
| 11:48.37 | abchirk | :) |
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| 14:19.33 | urlwolf | I'm using tiling in Kwin. Great job guys |
| 14:20.07 | urlwolf | Is there any shortcut to send one the smaller windows to the larger slot on the screen (maximize in xmonad and awesome parlance)? |
| 14:20.51 | AndrzejL | Hi guys. If I would want to compile KDE 4.8.x do I have to download it from git OR can I download tarballs from somewhere? Also - is git clone git://anongit.kde.org/kdelibs.git downloadind the entire kde4 or is it just one of many. I know questions may seem silly but I am doing this for the first time ever and I am just on my drawing board re-thinking all my options. Yes I see the tech base ... |
| 14:20.56 | AndrzejL | ... site and was going to use it but I need to make an informed decision hence the questions ;) |
| 14:21.19 | annma | AndrzejL: why do you want to compile KDE 4.8? |
| 14:22.25 | AndrzejL | annma: hmmm coz I am running 4.6.5 and would like to taste something newer and by that I do not mean 4.6.6 ;) |
| 14:22.41 | annma | and your distribution has nothing more recent? |
| 14:22.54 | annma | compiling is a huge task |
| 14:22.54 | AndrzejL | I am a enthusiastic semi-geek |
| 14:23.04 | AndrzejL | No - at this stage we have this in the repo... |
| 14:23.05 | annma | well you need to be over-enthusiastic |
| 14:23.20 | annma | because you will probably not have the dependencies then |
| 14:23.26 | annma | what is your distribution? |
| 14:23.32 | AndrzejL | annma: not afraid of it :) I was compiling latest glib / webkit / qt for the last two days |
| 14:24.16 | AndrzejL | My distro is PCLinuxOS and I am sorry to say that Devs are preoccupied trying to release 64 bit version and they kind of put the 32 bit on the backburner |
| 14:24.41 | annma | you would be better of by installing a whome new distro then |
| 14:24.52 | annma | but if you want to build, you need to read techbase |
| 14:25.07 | AndrzejL | but since I like messing - I don't mind compiling KDE4 myself if a certain answers are provided when i am running into a decission making / snags |
| 14:25.13 | annma | we're about to release tarballs of 4.9 beta 1 |
| 14:25.29 | AndrzejL | annma: not interested in installing new distro :D I wanna learn compiling the kde4 :D |
| 14:25.35 | annma | we're about to release tarballs of 4.9 beta 1 |
| 14:25.49 | annma | so you have the choice between tarballs or git |
| 14:25.55 | AndrzejL | Ouch... That sounds super new... |
| 14:25.58 | annma | this is your first decision |
| 14:26.04 | AndrzejL | I would go for it :) |
| 14:26.18 | AndrzejL | where could I download the tarballs :D |
| 14:26.38 | annma | they will be out in 1 week |
| 14:27.16 | AndrzejL | but you see the decission about / tarballs / git is not that simple - git can be pulled in the future while tarballs need to be re-downloaded |
| 14:27.19 | annma | if yo want to build from git you need to use a script |
| 14:27.26 | annma | yeah |
| 14:27.34 | MinasMazar | hi kders! a question. akregator use webkit or an old konqueror engine for opening tabs? |
| 14:27.35 | AndrzejL | is the git containing 4.9.x? |
| 14:27.35 | AndrzejL | or is it 4.8? |
| 14:27.45 | annma | git contains everything |
| 14:27.49 | annma | it has branches |
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| 14:28.05 | annma | you need kdelibs 4.8 branch and the rest master to get the latest |
| 14:28.11 | annma | ^^ extra important |
| 14:28.26 | AndrzejL | why script? Can I not make it myself by simple configure / make / make install steps? |
| 14:28.28 | annma | so maybe you need first to read about git |
| 14:28.31 | annma | no |
| 14:28.43 | AndrzejL | Oh my |
| 14:28.43 | annma | 1) it's not configure it's cmake |
| 14:28.55 | annma | 2) there are tons of packages but you need a certain order |
| 14:28.55 | AndrzejL | ah cmake ok |
| 14:29.09 | AndrzejL | and can You tell me are there tarballs for 4.8 flying around somewhere? |
| 14:29.19 | annma | 4.9 beta 1 |
| 14:29.20 | AndrzejL | Understand |
| 14:29.25 | AndrzejL | No prob there |
| 14:29.30 | annma | there are tarballs for 4.8.3 as well |
| 14:29.34 | annma | latest stable |
| 14:29.34 | AndrzejL | I can use script :) |
| 14:29.47 | pinotree | download.kde.org or ftp.kde.org, btw |
| 14:29.49 | AndrzejL | that sounds fine 4.8.3 sounds good enogh |
| 14:30.02 | AndrzejL | s/enogh/enough |
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| 14:30.36 | AndrzejL | thanks for answering the question before I asked pinotree - mindreader huh? :D cool skills |
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| 14:31.29 | AndrzejL | so If I download tarballs I can skip the script |
| 14:31.29 | AndrzejL | all I need is to know what goes when :) |
| 14:31.55 | AndrzejL | and this will probably be written on the techbase |
| 14:32.07 | annma | yes |
| 14:32.22 | annma | I hope you are familiar with cmake output |
| 14:32.37 | annma | as this output will tell you what dependency you are missing |
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| 14:33.52 | AndrzejL | yes I am :) |
| 14:34.26 | AndrzejL | sorry for asking but annma sounds like a girl but I can never be sure so I will ask. You are a woman right? |
| 14:34.30 | annma | so read techbase, see how you want to set up your installation (build path, install path, source path) |
| 14:34.37 | annma | I am |
| 14:34.48 | AndrzejL | Not that it matters - just curious / do not want to make a stupid mistake |
| 14:35.01 | AndrzejL | thanks for clearing that up for me. Nice to meet you annma |
| 14:35.12 | annma | nice to meet you too and good luck |
| 14:35.34 | AndrzejL | I will do that and I am wget -c ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.3/src/* to the hdd as we speak :) |
| 14:35.54 | AndrzejL | as my broadband is slow and I find it easier to start downloading before reading up :) |
| 14:36.06 | annma | the source is there: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.3/src/ |
| 14:36.38 | annma | do not download kde-l10n which are all languages and you dpn't need all of them |
| 14:37.00 | annma | if you need one language just pick it in the folder |
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| 14:37.51 | AndrzejL | I think wget will skip over the language folder as it only downloads files |
| 14:38.03 | AndrzejL | but just to be safe I will specify *.tar.xz |
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| 14:41.08 | BluesKaj | AndrzejL, I've been using "unp" a lot and it works well, it's an app that can uncompress/extract most any tarballs etc |
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| 14:46.06 | urlwolf | is there any way to get the window title on the taskbar? |
| 14:46.52 | DaZ | urlwolf: isn't that default taskbar behavior? :f |
| 14:47.15 | urlwolf | just the window on focus |
| 14:47.27 | AndrzejL | BluesKaj: midnight commander + myself :D works well too :D |
| 14:47.29 | urlwolf | not the many windows |
| 14:49.07 | BluesKaj | wow , there's a blast ftom the past , AndrzejL ;0 |
| 14:49.52 | BluesKaj | AndrzejL, I still use krudader for searches etc |
| 14:50.02 | BluesKaj | err krusader |
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| 15:10.18 | urlwolf | when in tiling monde, window titlebars are superfluous. Is there a way to hide them? |
| 15:11.01 | urlwolf | like applying 'right click > advanced > no borders' but for every single window, and future ones |
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| 15:12.37 | Phr33d0m | urlwolf you can configure your theme to not have borders |
| 15:12.52 | urlwolf | how? Just looking at it right now... |
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| 15:16.05 | urlwolf | Phr33d0m: I'm on style > configure > show advanced options |
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| 15:16.21 | urlwolf | nothing about borders that I can edit |
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| 15:17.46 | Phr33d0m | I don't know how to do it sorry |
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| 15:23.10 | fasta | AndrzejL: compiling KDE on an old system is a _huge_ amount of work. |
| 15:23.24 | fasta | AndrzejL: I know because I did so. |
| 15:23.44 | AndrzejL | fasta how old was your machine and how long did it took? |
| 15:23.53 | AndrzejL | I have a celeron 1.5 ghz cpu and 2 gigs or am |
| 15:23.55 | fasta | AndrzejL: it's more like an old OS. |
| 15:23.57 | AndrzejL | :D |
| 15:24.02 | fasta | AndrzejL: the system itself was new. |
| 15:24.15 | AndrzejL | should take 2 - 3 days here huh? :) |
| 15:24.20 | fasta | AndrzejL: 2GBs of RAM? How can you live like that? |
| 15:24.27 | thiago | 2 GB is plenty |
| 15:24.38 | fasta | AndrzejL: The whole of KDE compiles in about an hour, I think. |
| 15:24.44 | thiago | the celeron (single core?) at 1.5 GHz is going to be the problem to build |
| 15:24.51 | thiago | especially with a slow disk |
| 15:24.51 | AndrzejL | :) fasta 2 gigs in plenty plus I leave "poorly" ;) |
| 15:24.54 | fasta | AndrzejL: put the problem is getting the dependencies. |
| 15:25.09 | fasta | AndrzejL: if you distribution is new, then everything is already there. |
| 15:25.16 | AndrzejL | thiago: it will take a while but it will build ;D |
| 15:25.16 | fasta | AndrzejL: if not, you also need to compile QT. |
| 15:25.23 | thiago | AndrzejL: it will |
| 15:25.25 | annma | Qt not QT |
| 15:25.30 | thiago | AndrzejL: probably something like 24 hours |
| 15:25.31 | fasta | AndrzejL: I would say it requires quite some expert knowledge. |
| 15:25.33 | AndrzejL | fasta: qt is already compiled 4.8.2 |
| 15:25.50 | AndrzejL | compiling qt? |
| 15:25.58 | AndrzejL | I did it in one night :) |
| 15:25.59 | thiago | AndrzejL: no, all of KDE |
| 15:26.03 | fasta | AndrzejL: huh? You already have Qt? |
| 15:26.12 | AndrzejL | aaah that's quite true :) |
| 15:26.20 | AndrzejL | fasta: yes :) |
| 15:26.22 | fasta | AndrzejL: I think they are about 35 other dependencies or so. |
| 15:26.30 | AndrzejL | I compiled qt 4.8.2 last night |
| 15:26.34 | fasta | AndrzejL: and some of those dependencies have been written by idiots. |
| 15:26.58 | AndrzejL | after upgrading glib, libsoup, geoclue and webkit from lastest nightly build |
| 15:27.09 | fasta | AndrzejL: ok, well, then you should be fine. |
| 15:27.17 | AndrzejL | Aha :D sounds about right :D |
| 15:27.19 | fasta | AndrzejL: still, I do not recommend it. |
| 15:27.34 | AndrzejL | and I don't mind :D bit of struggle :D |
| 15:27.35 | fasta | AndrzejL: because there is also some secret dance involved in getting the integration right. |
| 15:27.51 | fasta | AndrzejL: and you will miss that integration if you build it yourself. |
| 15:28.01 | AndrzejL | so I will see if I can do it :D if I can - sweet - if I cannot - I will put it on a backburner |
| 15:28.02 | fasta | thiago: or do you disagree with my last statement? |
| 15:28.14 | AndrzejL | oh I bet there is... |
| 15:28.16 | thiago | fasta: I won't even dignify to comment |
| 15:28.35 | thiago | fasta: I'll just ignore you in this conversatin |
| 15:28.47 | fasta | thiago: is it that wrong? |
| 15:28.48 | AndrzejL | I am pretty sure I will regret compiling kde4 myself but then... I only live twice ;) like James Bond ;) |
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| 15:29.22 | fasta | I built KDE and I have seen how a new released version looks like. |
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| 15:29.29 | thiago | fasta: calling people idiots is |
| 15:29.54 | fasta | The released version bears little resemblance in the number of warnings and error messages I got. |
| 15:30.01 | AndrzejL | :) guys - no worries ;) I can always uninstall / reinstall repo version or something ;D and i am gonna have a fun over the weekend playing with KDE4 :D |
| 15:30.06 | fasta | Despite it building and installing correctly. |
| 15:30.25 | fasta | I think a project like this should have repeatable results. |
| 15:30.35 | fasta | Hence, the secret dance statements. |
| 15:30.43 | AndrzejL | thiago: I agree but I also dont disagree with fasta... sometimes it's just... something that is illogical ;D |
| 15:30.46 | fasta | thiago: perhaps you are right about that. |
| 15:31.08 | thiago | AndrzejL: I'm sure it was pretty logical to whomever made the decision, at the time they made it |
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| 15:31.30 | fasta | thiago: Hitler starting WWII was also pretty logical. |
| 15:31.43 | fasta | Godwin. |
| 15:31.45 | AndrzejL | I am pretty sure once I will start dancing I will learn the steps and if I will be afraid to start dancing - I will loose oportunities to learn new tricks and meet new people like I am doing now |
| 15:31.50 | thiago | yes, right, the nazi argument |
| 15:31.59 | thiago | now you're ignored |
| 15:32.20 | fasta | Now, now, I was only being logical. |
| 15:32.23 | AndrzejL | thiago: I bet it was - it's just the whole thing with dependancies that are crazy... seems illogical at times |
| 15:32.46 | AndrzejL | Oh lawd... |
| 15:32.57 | AndrzejL | :) |
| 15:32.59 | thiago | AndrzejL: in hindsight, things may look silly, of course |
| 15:33.17 | thiago | AndrzejL: but you also have to account for the fact that you may be the one without all the information. |
| 15:33.27 | AndrzejL | indeed :) |
| 15:34.20 | fasta | And regarding the secret dance, I think it mostly has to do with run-time dependencies. |
| 15:34.47 | fasta | And KDE is not really programmed to work in any environment but the one envisioned by whoever wrote the code. |
| 15:35.12 | fasta | So, instead of saying 'we have run-time dependency X', please install that, it just goes into semi-undefined behaviour. |
| 15:35.15 | AndrzejL | Like last night I was compiling qt and qt says glib has something declared that I don't like and you need to get rid of it for me... So I went to the header file found the declaration and /* it... all of the sudden - qt is telling me that it wont compile because this value that it just told me was deprecated and to remove it is not not declared in the scope... |
| 15:35.38 | annma | fasta: are you a packager? |
| 15:35.40 | fasta | AndrzejL: yeah, that's one of the many problems. |
| 15:36.07 | fasta | annma: no |
| 15:36.13 | AndrzejL | :) |
| 15:36.16 | fasta | annma: but I do package things. |
| 15:36.23 | annma | so maybe you did not read all the relevant files in the source |
| 15:36.53 | annma | we try to make it clear what dependencies KDE needs |
| 15:37.08 | fasta | annma: these things should also be done at run-time. |
| 15:37.21 | fasta | annma: and most importantly: it should abort when the first thing goes wrong. |
| 15:37.36 | fasta | annma: then there are no 'half-broken' KDEs around anymore. |
| 15:37.38 | annma | it should |
| 15:37.42 | annma | this is easy |
| 15:37.45 | fasta | annma: either it's broken or it works completely. |
| 15:37.54 | thiago | AndrzejL: that GMutex case is that the type of GMutex changed from one glib version to the next |
| 15:38.04 | annma | please make precise bug reports on problems you encounter |
| 15:38.08 | annma | fasta: ^^ |
| 15:38.09 | thiago | AndrzejL: no one should have been using the full name, but the glib devs themselves added the full name to webkit |
| 15:38.19 | AndrzejL | Oh my I hope that this is not a start of some flame war / arguement... I am a peaceful guy - hate fighting of all sort <I am not saying I cannot argue - I say i don't like to do it or when someone does it for no reason> |
| 15:38.20 | annma | whining here about generalities does nto make things better |
| 15:38.24 | fasta | Think of the case where it says 'kbuildscoca not started' (or whatever it is called). |
| 15:38.37 | thiago | AndrzejL: it's quite quiet here with /ignore fasta public |
| 15:39.02 | thiago | AndrzejL: I'm answering you calmly and addressing your concerns. You seem to be doing the same to me, so we're ok. |
| 15:39.09 | fasta | If it's not started, it means its precondition is broken (and that should be the end of it). |
| 15:39.21 | AndrzejL | haha :) well I only ignore spammers and people that really stepped on my toe |
| 15:39.26 | fasta | But no, what do people do: "Oh, look, it's not actice. Let's start it. " |
| 15:39.31 | fasta | active* |
| 15:39.44 | AndrzejL | thiago: that's how I like it - nice and easy and civil :D |
| 15:39.51 | fasta | That means the complexity went way up. |
| 15:39.56 | fasta | For no good reason. |
| 15:40.23 | fasta | AndrzejL: I am good at stepping on people's toes when I want. |
| 15:41.06 | fasta | annma: I was not aware that this was considered to be a bug. |
| 15:41.25 | AndrzejL | ;) sure sure but people like that are needed too sometimes :D |
| 15:41.28 | fasta | annma: I was under the impression that my ideas about software development have nothing to do with how KDE devs operate. |
| 15:41.51 | thiago | AndrzejL: maybe. But I'm having a nice day, it's warm and sunny, so I didn't want to get into the argument. |
| 15:42.07 | fasta | Yeah, I advice everyone to go outside too. |
| 15:42.57 | AndrzejL | that's a very good reason thiago |
| 15:43.58 | AndrzejL | I am really shocked - we have 2 nice days in Ireland... and it seems we will have more of them till monday or tuesday |
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| 15:44.26 | AndrzejL | I think it's 26 celsius outside now... not this is verry rare |
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| 15:45.50 | fasta | AndrzejL: global warming is great, until you get toasted. |
| 15:46.02 | fasta | Or flooded |
| 15:47.26 | AndrzejL | hehe true but I hate heat... that's why I moved to Ireland... well other reasons were involved too but the climate was taken under consideration ;) |
| 15:49.09 | AndrzejL | guys how do I check what was the KDEDIR value when the developpers of my distro were compiling the KDE4? |
| 15:49.23 | AndrzejL | is there a way? |
| 15:49.27 | thiago | kde4-config --prefix |
| 15:50.31 | AndrzejL | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.53 | AndrzejL | I am making notes of a commands like that and keeping them in txt files for future showing off :D |
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| 15:52.13 | AndrzejL | Ah Stoner will have a nice day too today... just finished final touches on his lair cleanup while downloading kde4.8.3 / reading the techbase ;) |
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| 15:57.22 | AndrzejL | Here is stoner btw http://andrzejl.cyryl.net/WoTW/WoTW_vids/Stoner/ |
| 16:00.46 | AndrzejL | It would be an interesting idea to add prefix with numbers to the KDE4 packages for the base src packages. Let's say kdelibs should be installed first instead of calling package kdelibs-4.8.3.tar.xz call it 001-kdelibs-4.8.3.tar.xz |
| 16:01.07 | AndrzejL | this way everyone would know what's the proper order ;) |
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| 16:01.59 | AndrzejL | and then next one 002- 003- and so on - till the moment that it makes no difference |
| 16:02.46 | AndrzejL | coz You don;t need kdetoys for example to be installed to make anything to work but You need kde-workspace or runtime... |
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| 16:03.08 | AndrzejL | thiago: does it makes sense by any chance? |
| 16:03.35 | thiago | AndrzejL: yes |
| 16:03.47 | thiago | AndrzejL: but it's been like this for 15 years... everyone knows that kdelibs is first :-) |
| 16:04.01 | thiago | not counting the non-KDE dependencies, of course |
| 16:04.26 | AndrzejL | Wow... I didn't was just shootin as it was... logical |
| 16:04.27 | AndrzejL | Spock would be proud ;) |
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| 16:15.23 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 16:33.23 | BluesKaj | hi rindolf |
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| 16:47.46 | AndrzejL | BluesKaj: krusader is like... total commander... while I grow acustommed to norton commander :D |
| 16:48.35 | AndrzejL | in the dos 6.0 times nc was a blessing and after moving to Linux in 2007 I was happy to see a friendly face of midnight commander looking at me ;) |
| 16:49.56 | AndrzejL | hi rindolf ;) |
| 16:50.56 | rindolf | AndrzejL: hi. |
| 16:50.58 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hi. |
| 16:50.59 | rindolf | What's up |
| 16:51.01 | rindolf | ? |
| 16:51.16 | AndrzejL | sky, planes, sun :P |
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| 16:51.46 | rindolf | :-S |
| 16:52.20 | rindolf | clubs AndrzejL to death with the complete printout of http://en.wiktionary.org/ . |
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| 16:54.24 | BluesKaj | looking for a method to decrypt a text file , unfortunately it was on wife's windows 7 pc , which I was using as a folder backup , however I mistakenly did a clean install and the gpg/pgp deccrypt code is lost :( |
| 16:54.28 | rindolf | AndrzejL: http://www.glasswings.com.au/comics/ozyandmillie/d/20050105.html |
| 16:54.45 | rindolf | BluesKaj: hmm.... |
| 16:54.50 | rindolf | BluesKaj: did you have backups? |
| 16:55.26 | BluesKaj | yes the backup was encrypted however |
| 16:56.19 | AndrzejL | ouch... that's gonna hurt.. |
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| 16:58.26 | BluesKaj | it's not real serious , it's a list of pws and usernames for various sites that I can probly retrieve by getting the pws emailed to me |
| 16:58.51 | BluesKaj | it's just a pita |
| 17:01.04 | dijonyummy | is there a way to save a bunch of konsole tabs in a bookmark folder so that you can open them all, BUT have them ssh as different users on different machines? the last part is what im trying to do |
| 17:03.38 | BluesKaj | dijonyummy, save them as text file bookmarks ? |
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| 17:04.21 | rindolf | dijonyummy: you may be able to specify an initial input for the terminal. |
| 17:04.40 | rindolf | dijonyummy: or run an alternate command in a tab. |
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| 17:06.54 | dijonyummy | i see under location: you can do like root@machine, i guess no way to put password in there? |
| 17:07.10 | dijonyummy | or have it cd to a certain dir or run some commands |
| 17:07.40 | Adaptee | dijonyummy: oepn "Edit bookmarks", create a bookmark folder manually, and create and edit bookmarks manually to contain urls like ssh://user@host:port, then use the "Open folder in tabs" action in the submenu of that folder. |
| 17:08.33 | dijonyummy | thanks got it! |
| 17:08.54 | dijonyummy | but any way to fill in password automatically, or run commands? |
| 17:09.06 | dijonyummy | or is there a good different app that can do that? |
| 17:09.10 | dijonyummy | kde or gnome |
| 17:10.24 | Adaptee | you can't do that in konsole, at least now. |
| 17:11.37 | dijonyummy | i see thanks! |
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| 18:07.06 | Cthulhux | hi :) |
| 18:07.20 | Cthulhux | random question: how can i tune the kde notification settings? |
| 18:07.35 | Cthulhux | like, disable certain applications and change their display time? |
| 18:07.44 | pinotree | system settings → notifications |
| 18:08.01 | Cthulhux | easy. thanks. must have been blind. |
| 18:08.01 | Cthulhux | :-) |
| 18:08.22 | pinotree | you cannot change their display time though |
| 18:08.32 | Cthulhux | hmmm... |
| 18:08.48 | Cthulhux | ok :/ |
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| 18:38.31 | swerve | memory status plasmoid driving me absolutely crazy - comes up blank, have to remove & re-add it every time kde starts |
| 18:39.23 | swerve | desktop plasmoid settings seem to be controlled by ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc, but I can't find w/in the file what controls how it displays |
| 18:39.38 | swerve | works ok for a test user |
| 18:40.46 | swerve | also have cpu, temp, and system settings plasma apps - those are all fine |
| 18:40.50 | annma | ah OK because here it works OK |
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| 18:42.32 | swerve | definitely *don't* want to have to rebuild desktop just for this stupid app - it might not even work & i'd be stuck w/same behavior! |
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| 18:44.16 | swerve | I'm more curious now anyway to find out what exactly is controlling that and making it come up blank |
| 18:44.42 | annma | well if it works for a test user there's no need to rebuild |
| 18:44.54 | swerve | why just that one? and why just this user? and why every time, regardless of where it is on screen? |
| 18:44.55 | annma | what do you call"blank" |
| 18:45.09 | annma | is your test useron the same machine? |
| 18:45.14 | annma | is your test user on the same machine? |
| 18:45.15 | swerve | yes, same pc |
| 18:45.22 | annma | OK so it's a config |
| 18:45.32 | annma | now what doyou call "blank" |
| 18:45.41 | swerve | blank = no data, no nothing, just a blank applet. no options in settings, either |
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| 18:46.13 | swerve | could make screenshots if you want to wait a minute... |
| 18:46.21 | annma | no options in settings? |
| 18:46.38 | swerve | not when it comes up blank, no - only when i re-add it afterward |
| 18:46.45 | annma | and when you remove and add it, the options are there? |
| 18:46.50 | swerve | like it's not reading something |
| 18:46.52 | swerve | yes |
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| 18:47.03 | swerve | works normally after i kill it and then re-add it to the desktop |
| 18:47.14 | BluesKaj | whats the story wiith FF on Linux ..is mozilla dropping kde integration ? |
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| 18:47.17 | swerve | but it's a PITA to do that every time! lol |
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| 19:03.36 | AndrzejL | Dudes what is fam :D |
| 19:03.47 | AndrzejL | Cmake cannot find it... |
| 19:04.06 | AndrzejL | and... google says family guy could not be found either... |
| 19:04.47 | AndrzejL | I have libfame0 but is this it? :D |
| 19:05.24 | AndrzejL | I love when folks are calling packages something nice and easy to find... |
| 19:05.50 | annma | try installing fam from your package manager |
| 19:05.56 | annma | and fam-devel |
| 19:06.24 | AndrzejL | Found it |
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| 19:06.28 | annma | File Alteration Monitoring |
| 19:06.59 | AndrzejL | annma: there is no fam in my package manager but I have found out what fam means and wiki site pointed me to project home site :D |
| 19:07.10 | AndrzejL | another tiny step further... :D |
| 19:07.20 | annma | :) |
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| 19:18.17 | x_link | Hi |
| 19:18.35 | x_link | I have really big problems connection to MSN with Kopete. |
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| 19:18.52 | x_link | It crashes all the time, I tried some different stuff I found but nothing works. |
| 19:18.53 | AndrzejL | Oh lawd... I think my devs called fam as libfame... why fame? |
| 19:19.34 | annma | libfam but libfame is silly |
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| 19:20.02 | ompaul | annma: it's the lib that wants to live forever! ;-) |
| 19:20.03 | AndrzejL | will install libfame devel and see |
| 19:20.10 | annma | ompaul: lol |
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| 19:22.08 | robotdevil | how do I make a link to from the wallpaper of a kde desktop to say an executable somewhere else in fs |
| 19:22.26 | robotdevil | or from the panel for that matter |
| 19:22.38 | x_link | Nobody can help me with my MSN-crashed all the time? |
| 19:22.44 | x_link | The application Kopete (kopete) crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) |
| 19:22.49 | x_link | I get that message all the time. |
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| 19:51.38 | AndrzejL | oh lawd I found fam... i gamin :D |
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| 19:53.36 | aseigo | lol |
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| 19:54.35 | AndrzejL | gamin - Library providing the FAM File Alteration Monitor API |
| 19:54.42 | AndrzejL | :D |
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| 20:16.56 | AndrzejL | Dudes and Dudettes WARNING: No valid KAuth backends will be built. The library will not work properly unless compiled with a working backend |
| 20:17.19 | AndrzejL | I get this warning - not an error really but still... what is a valid KAuth backend? |
| 20:17.30 | AndrzejL | or what can be used to provide one |
| 20:17.57 | AndrzejL | almost got rid of all the errors in the kdelibs btw ;) |
| 20:18.08 | AndrzejL | compiling hupnp ;D |
| 20:18.25 | pinotree | which errors? |
| 20:18.37 | pinotree | hupnp is just an optional dependency, not an "error" |
| 20:18.55 | AndrzejL | errors during a cmake step about missing deps ;) |
| 20:19.11 | AndrzejL | well pinotree I like to have everything "found" :) |
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| 20:21.10 | AndrzejL | and since I have a local copy of my distro's repository - I don't need to worry about download quota :D |
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| 20:25.58 | Vampir3 | hello everyone, can anyone explain me how i install the kwin button applet in fedora??? |
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| 20:28.49 | Vampir3 | no one? :( |
| 20:30.19 | AndrzejL | Vampir3: hang on - I don't know how to do what You need but wait for someone who knows to appear |
| 20:30.23 | AndrzejL | don't panic :) |
| 20:31.16 | Vampir3 | i try to install it fir 5 days, maube for this reason i cant wait more :( sory dude :( |
| 20:31.37 | AndrzejL | patience is a virtue :) |
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| 20:31.53 | AndrzejL | If I knew how to help You I would |
| 20:32.22 | Vampir3 | yeah u right |
| 20:32.27 | Vampir3 | thanks dude |
| 20:32.56 | aseigo | Vampir3: if there are no rpm's for it, you'll need to build from source. how to build from source -> install -devel packages for kdelibs .. #fedora-kde (assuming that exists :) may be able to help with that process if you need it |
| 20:33.13 | AndrzejL | no worries :) - I know stuff can get frustrating at times = take a break, read some more info about it - 5 days is nothing ;) |
| 20:33.15 | Vampir3 | in fedora channels everyone talk about fedora 17 O_O i think no one see my question there |
| 20:34.12 | Vampir3 | aseigo: there's no rpm pkge, when i wana bulid from source i get error |
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| 21:56.10 | AndrzejL | Guys I have a fine message -- Congratulations! All external packages have been found. |
| 21:56.13 | AndrzejL | BUT |
| 21:56.22 | AndrzejL | WARNING: No valid KAuth backends will be built. The library will not work properly unless compiled with a working backend |
| 21:56.27 | AndrzejL | what's this? :) |
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| 21:59.33 | AndrzejL | Heh ;) make step in progress... |
| 21:59.43 | AndrzejL | Ok what's next after kdelibs :D! |
| 21:59.50 | AndrzejL | sings ;D |
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| 22:10.54 | AndrzejL | Hmmmm |
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| 22:44.14 | robotdevil | So I am trying to link a windows executable in my filesystem to my kde4 panel. How do I do this? |
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| 22:44.42 | robotdevil | To an icon in the panel |
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| 22:51.07 | heyhey | hey everyone, is there a way I can connect my AIM account with Kopete? The help files are dated it seems as they no longer make sense |
| 22:57.56 | heyhey | anyone? |
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| 23:13.36 | heyhey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:21.58 | Brian_H | So I'm using Kontact, I have my mail coming in just fine and can read it, however after several minutes I get toaster pop ups saying "unable to retrieve items", is there a log somewhere I can look to figure out what exactly kontact/kmail is having an issue with? |
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| 23:22.33 | heyhey | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:22.53 | Brian_H | 372 silent people :( |
| 23:22.59 | heyhey | right? |
| 23:23.50 | ct|kyle | anyone know if folder view Desktops got fixed yet? 10% of the time it works flawlessly 90% of the time the files are all missing. |
| 23:24.55 | heyhey | don't think anyone's on kyle :( |
| 23:25.14 | Brian_H | well, we are... just no one that can help :p |
| 23:25.53 | ct|kyle | arg, i guess it is kinda late, usually 3-4 hours ago is the time you can get most support |
| 23:26.11 | heyhey | really? oh well... |
| 23:27.52 | ct|kyle | heyhey: well i base that on something else, but it probably is true. |
| 23:31.39 | abveritas | heyhey: what is your AIM issue in kopete, not an account option? |
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| 23:32.24 | AndrzejL | robotdevil: tried to just drag executable on the unlocked panel? |
| 23:32.37 | AndrzejL | IF not - try dragging it |
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| 23:33.01 | AndrzejL | if that wont work - create a .desktop file or drag kmenu entry to the panel |
| 23:33.20 | AndrzejL | heyhey: sorry dude no aim account here plus I a a pidgin person |
| 23:33.21 | heyhey | abveritas: hey, thanks for helping. I'm attempting to connect my aim account to Kopete, but don't see how. the help guy seems like it doesn't apply anymore, as there is no "New" button under settings > configure > accounts |
| 23:33.57 | heyhey | AndrzejL: that's alright :P Pidgin isn't wanting to install properly for me for some reason, so I figured I'd go with what I already have |
| 23:34.05 | abveritas | heyhey: what kde version? which distro, since it is all there for me here.... |
| 23:34.32 | heyhey | abveritas: 4.8.3, Gentoo |
| 23:34.35 | AndrzejL | I am under PCLinuxOS and it's installing properly plus I have compiled pidgin myself - works fine too ;) |
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| 23:35.00 | heyhey | AndrzejL: I'm on Gentoo, I've had problems ever since I switched to an AMD64 build, dunno why |
| 23:35.07 | AndrzejL | working on the 4.8.3 - compiling it... Hope I can manage - never compiled kde4 before... |
| 23:35.20 | robotdevil | AndrzejL: doesnt work, apparently you have to add quick launcher remove one of the entries, then change the path and point to your executable then change the icon picture |
| 23:35.36 | heyhey | AndrzejL: It's fun :D |
| 23:35.38 | AndrzejL | really? |
| 23:35.47 | heyhey | I enjoy it |
| 23:35.48 | AndrzejL | heyhey: very cpu intense fun |
| 23:36.00 | heyhey | AndrzejL: lawl |
| 23:36.16 | AndrzejL | I would enjoy it too if I my cpu was not 1.5 ghz celeron... |
| 23:36.25 | heyhey | AndrzejL: oh yikes... |
| 23:36.30 | AndrzejL | :] |
| 23:36.31 | abveritas | heyhey: what deps used for kopete compile? |
| 23:37.20 | heyhey | abveritas: um, couldn't tell you? I just "emerge kde-meta" and it came with it, I've always used pidgin until it started messing up on me |
| 23:38.03 | AndrzejL | heyhey: tried to compile pidgin from scratch? |
| 23:38.50 | heyhey | abveritas: in settings > configure > account in Kopete, there is suppsed to be a "new" button that the help files tell me to click to add an aim account, but there isn't on anywhere, I have "add account" but that doesn't have AIM in there, just a jabber account |
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| 23:39.19 | diegoviola | hi |
| 23:39.22 | heyhey | AndrzejL: yup, still having problems, it might not like Gentoo |
| 23:39.32 | AndrzejL | Hmmmm |
| 23:39.35 | heyhey | abveritas: I might just be noobing it out, I dunno... |
| 23:39.42 | AndrzejL | or maybe 64 bits |
| 23:39.47 | abveritas | heyhey: I understand, but that usually is a sign of a missing dep during complie |
| 23:40.26 | heyhey | abveritas: ah, anyway I can check which deps I have for Kopete? |
| 23:40.36 | diegoviola | is it possible to define my own custom keyboard shortcuts in klipper? when i click on configure klipper, in the shortcuts section, i see it allows me to change some things, but i don't see an option to define a shortcut for "clear clipboard history", any ideas please? |
| 23:41.06 | abveritas | heyhey: here I have > makedepends=('pkgconfig' 'cmake' 'automoc4' 'boost' 'speex' 'ortp' 'libotr' 'qca-ossl' |
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| 23:41.16 | diegoviola | abveritas: use a pastebin |
| 23:41.22 | abveritas | sorry, let me pastebin |
| 23:41.47 | abveritas | heyhey: http://paste.chakra-project.org/1723/ |
| 23:42.15 | diegoviola | any ideas about my issue? |
| 23:42.17 | abveritas | heyhey: http://paste.chakra-project.org/1724/ |
| 23:43.05 | heyhey | abveritas: where can I find those files to double check that they have the proper deps? |
| 23:44.34 | abveritas | heyhey: ebuild? http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/kde-base/kopete/kopete-4.8.3.ebuild?view=markup |
| 23:45.29 | heyhey | abveritas: ah, thank ya, I'm very new to all of this |
| 23:48.10 | heyhey | abveritas: ah, apparently I needed the gtk USE flag set, alrighty figured it out, thank you abveritas! if you are ever near raleigh, I'll buy you a beer |
| 23:48.43 | abveritas | heyhey: you're welcome, no beer drinker :) |
| 23:49.12 | AndrzejL | what abveritas wanted to say was "Send beer to AndrzejL" |
| 23:49.18 | AndrzejL | :D |
| 23:49.20 | heyhey | AndrzejL: :P |
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| 23:58.06 | AndrzejL | guys where can I find info about the order in which should I install KDE stuff? |
| 23:58.24 | AndrzejL | I got all the deps + the kdelibs almost ready |
| 23:58.33 | AndrzejL | make step is on 83% |
| 23:58.45 | AndrzejL | 1) kdelibs |
| 23:58.46 | AndrzejL | 2) kdepimlibs |
| 23:58.46 | AndrzejL | 3) kde-baseapps |
| 23:58.46 | AndrzejL | 4) kde-runtime |
| 23:58.46 | AndrzejL | 5) kde-workspace |
| 23:59.00 | AndrzejL | 6) kdesdkI am thinking to do it this way... but I am not sure |