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| 01:22.48 | pfred1 | after I've installed KDElibs and KDEbase what should I install next? |
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| 02:23.08 | AlexZion | hi everyone, I have a problem with Kmail, about invalid maildir for collection, I found a post on the commnity forum and I did exaclty what some other people did to solve the problem , but my problem is still there ...., someone can help me ? |
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| 02:35.11 | AlexZion | mhhh, may be there is no way to solve it yet .... |
| 02:35.52 | AlexZion | it should be an akonadi problem ..... |
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| 02:40.00 | jeorgun | I had a similar issue with Kmail some time ago, but I wasn't able to solve it without deleting nepomuk's database and re-indexing everything, which obviously isn't an ideal solution. |
| 02:41.04 | pfred1 | man they really don't want me to build this stuff do they? |
| 02:42.21 | AlexZion | jeorgun: so do you think should I try removing nepomuk's database ? |
| 02:42.52 | jeorgun | If nothing else works. |
| 02:43.02 | AlexZion | I mean , it should be a known bug , I found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/872454 |
| 02:44.39 | AlexZion | and actually my nepomuk service is off ..... |
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| 02:48.07 | AlexZion | well , so it looks like I cannot use a simple mail client , without using akonadi and even nepomuk !?!, I'm a bit disappointed about that ...... |
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| 02:52.35 | AlexZion | anyway , restarting the nepomuk services and after that restarting akonadi services , seems to works ....., thanks jeorgun for the suggestion.... |
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| 06:45.03 | geo27 | People : hi ! |
| 06:46.26 | neoclust | geo27: hi |
| 06:46.45 | geo27 | Hello neoclust ! |
| 06:47.10 | geo27 | I'm having much troubles with kontact. In many kmail's folders, I get the following notification : " (NO [LRCONFLICT] Resource tries to modify item with dirty payload, aborting STORE.)" |
| 06:47.23 | geo27 | How can I repair this kind of error ? I've tried to launch akonadiconsole to check out what is wrong, but when I choose a kmail folder, it displays lots of error in the konsole from which I launched it |
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| 08:37.59 | sputnick_ | hi |
| 08:39.34 | sputnick_ | In konsole 2.7.4, I can't type "^" caracter. I can only type "ê" or such. I use utf8 in konsole and my LANG is fr_FR.UTF8 |
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| 08:46.50 | geo27 | sputnick_: type twice on the ^ key. |
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| 08:51.57 | sputnick_ | geo27: I can type twice or N*, that never works. In xterm that works as a charm |
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| 08:53.56 | sputnick_ | geo27: the same problem seems to exists in all kde applications (like now in konversation) |
| 08:54.16 | sputnick_ | what is the english name of "^" for googling ? |
| 08:55.32 | sputnick_ | (in thunderbird, I can type it, no problem) |
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| 11:14.53 | salvin | what is the web development environment for KDE? |
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| 11:17.12 | salvin | quanta is no longer in debian |
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| 11:27.46 | Moult | salvin: there is none |
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| 11:49.08 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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| 11:54.10 | cppking | guys ,i have changed background image of default splash theme of KDE4,but it doesn't work,what should i do |
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| 12:02.21 | cppking | guys ,i have changed background image of default splash theme of KDE4,but it doesn't work,what should i do |
| 12:06.24 | rdieter_work | cppking: maybe explain exactly what you did ? |
| 12:07.02 | cppking | i want to change the background of default spalsh theme of kde ,what should i do |
| 12:07.15 | pinotree | explain what you did |
| 12:07.21 | BluesKaj | !patience | cppking |
| 12:07.53 | cppking | i changed /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/default/1600x1200/background.png |
| 12:08.00 | cppking | but i doesn't work |
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| 12:10.23 | cppking | i'm back |
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| 12:11.01 | cppking | network broken just now |
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| 12:12.16 | cppking | can anybody solve my question? |
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| 12:14.08 | rdieter_work | cppking: so, what resolution screen do you have? 1600x1200? |
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| 12:14.31 | cppking | 1200x800 |
| 12:14.39 | rdieter_work | if not, that would explain why replacing only the 1600x1200 background image didn't show for you |
| 12:15.38 | cppking | i have remove any other folder like ####x####,only keep 1600x1200 |
| 12:15.40 | rdieter_work | though that is the right ratio |
| 12:15.47 | BluesKaj | cppking, systemsettings>window decorations >splash screen, "get new themes" ...that might work for you |
| 12:16.06 | rdieter_work | cppking: ok, you didn't mention removing stuff earlier. :) |
| 12:16.50 | rdieter_work | cppking: that should work, so what happens? no background? shows the wrong one? |
| 12:17.04 | cppking | well..i want to change theme with my own hand |
| 12:17.24 | cppking | i show the previous background |
| 12:17.42 | cppking | it didn't change |
| 12:17.45 | rdieter_work | not sure what that means, I'd suggest copying that theme as a starting point, and then create a new diferrently named one, and work on that. |
| 12:18.42 | rdieter_work | then test with : ksplashx <theme> --test |
| 12:18.59 | cppking | maybe it needs rebuild ? like grub2,after you changed some source ,you have to update it |
| 12:19.05 | rdieter_work | no |
| 12:19.18 | rdieter_work | i've done ksplash theme building before, never had to do anything like that |
| 12:20.09 | cppking | ok ,i will try your method |
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| 12:23.53 | cppking | i've done the test |
| 12:24.06 | cppking | it didn't work |
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| 12:24.51 | phrag | hey, i often have to open 10-20 terminals at a time in a parallel / cluster session (type once into multiple windows)... in kde, this often messes up opening 5-20 terminals at a time, as i want to view all of them... is there a quick way in kde to sort windows into equal views.. spiral windows doesn't do what i want, as i need them all equal size |
| 12:26.30 | cppking | i copy the Default folder to my ~,and ksplashx Default --test ,but the background still didn't change ,it's really weird |
| 12:27.19 | BluesKaj | cppking, that file path doesn't exist on my pc , /usr/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/default, are you sure kdm looks in that file for the splash ? |
| 12:28.00 | cppking | it's $$$$$$$/Default |
| 12:28.06 | cppking | upper case |
| 12:28.10 | cppking | Default |
| 12:28.22 | BluesKaj | ok ,but not my pc |
| 12:28.45 | cppking | i'm using archlinux |
| 12:28.45 | BluesKaj | different paths for diff OSs I guess |
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| 12:35.40 | rdieter_work | cppking: 1. name the theme something different. 2. put in ~/.kde/share/apps/ksplash/Themes/<new_name>/ instead |
| 12:36.16 | rdieter_work | then, test as: ksplashx <new_name> --test |
| 12:37.09 | cppking | ok,it worked |
| 12:37.16 | cppking | 3x |
| 12:37.17 | rdieter_work | yay |
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| 13:58.06 | Kenjiro | good morning |
| 13:58.19 | rindolf | Kenjiro: hi. |
| 13:58.29 | Kenjiro | can anybody point me to a KDE HTML editor? |
| 13:58.37 | Kenjiro | Long ago I used Quanta (ages ago) |
| 13:58.40 | rindolf | Kenjiro: WYSIWYG? |
| 13:58.47 | Kenjiro | rindolf: if possible, yes |
| 13:58.52 | rindolf | Kenjiro: OK. |
| 13:59.05 | Kenjiro | but now Quanta seems to be more of a dev tool than a HTML editor :( |
| 13:59.29 | rindolf | Kenjiro: I'm personally using gvim for HTML/etc. (which isn't particularly KDEish, but runs fine on KDE), but there's also Kate. |
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| 14:01.21 | Kenjiro | yeah, for code writing kate is wonderful... But since I am not dealing with a too complex HTML, I only need to create some tables and stuff and want to see if things are ok |
| 14:01.33 | Kenjiro | looooooooooooooong time I don't deal with HTML code. I am really rusted hehehehehe |
| 14:01.35 | houms | i am having a problem with plasma-widget-networkmanagement where connecting to openvpn connection has an extra route which breaks all routing except on local LAN. connecting to the same openvpn server via openvpn command on cli does not exhibit the same behavior |
| 14:02.05 | houms | here is netstat -rn for connection made from plasma https://paste.debian.net/163814/ |
| 14:02.12 | houms | here is netstat -rn when connecting via openvpn command on cli https://paste.debian.net/163815/ |
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| 14:04.35 | Kenjiro | rindolf: something along the lines of Dreamweaver would be nice *LOL* |
| 14:05.02 | Kenjiro | ok I don't something "that fancy", but an application that could easy things for me would be fine |
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| 14:05.44 | rindolf | Kenjiro: there's http://kompozer.net/ |
| 14:06.16 | Kenjiro | let me check that |
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| 14:17.38 | arkascha | I could use some help: I upgraded my openSUSE-tumbleweed today to KDE-4.8.2. Since then I cannot login to KDE any more. |
| 14:17.51 | arkascha | I get a black screen 1 second after the login and the login screen reappears. |
| 14:18.08 | arkascha | ~/.xsession-errors claims that there is no input method defined. |
| 14:18.08 | apt | that's too long, arkascha |
| 14:18.32 | arkascha | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.12 | BluesKaj | arkascha, alt+ctrl+F1 , then update and upgrade , you may have held packages/dependencies |
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| 14:19.54 | arkascha | BluesKaj: no, tried anotherupdate afterwards to be sure, nothing left. |
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| 14:20.02 | arkascha | I use zypper up to update/upgrade |
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| 14:21.04 | BluesKaj | arkascha, I'm not familiar with dist-upgrade commands on your OS , but I suggest you try that too |
| 14:21.43 | arkascha | BluesKaj: ? I dont want to make a dist upgrade. Why should that help ? I am pretty much confinved that this creates much more problems. |
| 14:22.40 | BluesKaj | arkascha, does dist-upgrade on your not just upgrade existing packages in kde ? |
| 14:22.52 | BluesKaj | on your OS |
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| 14:24.03 | arkascha | no, zypper makes a distinction btween normal and dist upgrades. |
| 14:24.28 | arkascha | a normal update updates all packages to newer versions without jumping between repositories. |
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| 14:24.42 | arkascha | a dist upgrade upgrades all regardless of repositories (I think). |
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| 14:24.56 | arkascha | Therefore it is usually not a good idea for a running system. |
| 14:26.08 | BluesKaj | arkascha, aren't your repositories in your sources file restricted to the existing OS version? |
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| 14:27.11 | arkascha | BluesKaj: as written I use tumbleweed, that is a rolling distribution. |
| 14:27.28 | BluesKaj | ok , understood |
| 14:27.36 | arkascha | BluesKaj: And even though I have certain repositories configured some packages appear in different ones. |
| 14:27.54 | BluesKaj | yes, got it |
| 14:27.59 | arkascha | This might lead to newer versions for single packages though they wont match the rest of kde. |
| 14:28.05 | BluesKaj | yup |
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| 15:11.55 | arkascha | ARGH ! |
| 15:12.12 | arkascha | found out why I get a black screen when login in to KDE after the upgrade |
| 15:12.19 | arkascha | I had to select a session type again. |
| 15:12.21 | arkascha | ARGH ! |
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| 17:05.01 | deever | is there a (working) way to create kb shortcuts for applications? e.g Meta+K for konqueror? no, with the menu editor it doesn't work...:( |
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| 17:10.36 | cb400f | try doing it from khotkeys |
| 17:10.53 | cb400f | workz for me.. but I use "multimedia keys" for it |
| 17:11.03 | cb400f | +only |
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| 17:27.05 | aainfo | holaaaa, alguien habla español??? |
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| 17:28.27 | AlexZion | yo aainfo, que pasa .... |
| 17:28.44 | aainfo | holaaa |
| 17:28.56 | aainfo | pues que quiero hacer una cosa en fedora kde y no se como |
| 17:29.18 | AlexZion | a ver si puedo ayudar |
| 17:30.11 | BluesKaj | !es |
| 17:30.17 | aainfo | a ver, quiero en el submenu de dolphin que sale cuando das clic derecho poner en crear nuevo varias plantillas para otros programas |
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| 17:32.39 | AlexZion | aainfo: entonces click derecho y anidir nuevo , y luego quita la opcion que dice mas o meno "montrar solo cuando se usa dolphin " |
| 17:32.58 | BluesKaj | !english |
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| 17:33.31 | AlexZion | ok BluesKaj I was just trying to help aainfo with a basic info ..., sorry about that .... |
| 17:33.47 | aainfo | a ver, en el menu contextual crear nuevo quiero poner mas cosas |
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| 17:34.16 | aainfo | como crear archivo de calc de libreoffice |
| 17:34.44 | BluesKaj | dunno about the language rules here AlexZion , maybe all languges are welcome :) |
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| 17:46.38 | akSeya | hi folks |
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| 17:47.35 | akSeya | i there a way to save some screenspace on kde? |
| 17:47.55 | akSeya | i explain,.. i want a specific area (that has a vbox windows taskbar) to be reserved just to that |
| 17:48.11 | akSeya | so if I maximize other windows, they don't go over the vbox taskbar |
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| 17:52.07 | akSeya | look http://snag.gy/0Zbtt.jpg |
| 17:52.30 | akSeya | i added that panel to save the screenspace, but then it gets on top of the vbox taskbar |
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| 19:15.06 | \marco | hi all I've a strange problem with knetworkmanager on my Debian testing |
| 19:15.28 | \marco | I can see all the wireless network as WEP |
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| 19:15.52 | \marco | and I can't add a new connection with a different auth |
| 19:16.28 | \marco | but, if I edit by hand the NetworkManager systemconnection it works |
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| 19:17.27 | \marco | Do you have any idea? Do you need some additional info? |
| 19:18.06 | judgen | Sorry for a stupid question, but what are the hotkeys to switch between tabs in Konsole? |
| 19:18.56 | \marco | judgen: shift + arrows |
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| 19:19.13 | \marco | well, in yakuake, but I suppose are the same |
| 19:19.49 | Sho_ | they are (but only because i made them so) |
| 19:19.49 | \marco | yep, confirmed |
| 19:19.54 | \marco | lol |
| 19:20.44 | Sho_ | (the point being that yakuake and konsole don't automatically use the same shortcuts) |
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| 19:21.40 | \marco | right, sorry for the wrong supposition ;) |
| 19:22.21 | \marco | but I want to think we have a sort of uniform behaviour :P |
| 19:23.04 | \marco | anyone about my knetworkmanager problem? |
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| 19:29.30 | \marco | is there a way to have a more verbose log from a plasmoid? ( knetworkmanager in this case ) |
| 19:30.05 | judgen | \marco: thanks |
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| 19:30.35 | \marco | judgen: np ;) |
| 19:31.21 | judgen | i am so used to use alt+function keys to swap that it didnt hit me =) |
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| 19:31.34 | \marco | eheheh |
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| 19:32.05 | \marco | well, I use a lot alt + arrows in basic vts |
| 19:33.25 | \marco | what about this: |
| 19:33.26 | \marco | kded(6347)/Network Management (NetworkManager backend) ConnectionDbus::fromDbusMap: Setting "802-11-wireless-security" not initialized |
| 19:33.32 | \marco | ? |
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| 19:33.59 | \marco | could it be releted? |
| 19:34.00 | judgen | is it possible to create a session that starts with konsole maximized and no windowmanager, sort of like you can with xterm? |
| 19:34.15 | judgen | No other apps running |
| 19:34.22 | Sho_ | sure |
| 19:34.53 | judgen | Sho_: please enlighten me? |
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| 19:35.11 | \marco | I'm curious too, how you can maximize a window without a wm? |
| 19:35.39 | Sho_ | \marco: i'm guessing by "no wm" he just means "no window decos" |
| 19:35.41 | judgen | \marco: with xterm you set the size in the xinit script |
| 19:35.46 | \marco | oh |
| 19:36.10 | Sho_ | \marco: but even if not: since it'll be put at 0,0 you just need to set the size to <res> |
| 19:36.12 | judgen | Sho_: no taskbar or anything else either |
| 19:36.20 | Sho_ | the taskbar isn't part of the wm anyway |
| 19:36.30 | judgen | Sho_ tru |
| 19:36.47 | Sho_ | judgen: just put konsole wrapped by some kstart argument into .xinitrc and run startx, i guess |
| 19:36.53 | \marco | interesting :) |
| 19:37.12 | judgen | but i do not want to mess up kdm or the regular kde session |
| 19:37.24 | Sho_ | it won't |
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| 19:38.16 | \marco | maybe you could use a minimal wm like blackbox, and disable the taskbar |
| 19:38.35 | Sho_ | doesn't make sense to me |
| 19:38.40 | Sho_ | might as well use kwin then |
| 19:38.47 | judgen | xterm -geometry 100x50+0+0 |
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| 19:39.13 | \marco | oh, right, you'll still have the window decos |
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| 19:39.33 | Sho_ | \marco: and kwin actually lets you disable the decos on a per-app and per-window basis |
| 19:39.36 | Sho_ | also as stored rules |
| 19:39.50 | \marco | gotcha |
| 19:39.55 | judgen | cool |
| 19:40.14 | Sho_ | (maybe blackbox can too, dunno) |
| 19:41.17 | \marco | so the answer is..... add a custom session without any DE or WM? |
| 19:41.30 | \marco | with only a .xinitrc? |
| 19:41.41 | Sho_ | well, two options |
| 19:41.48 | Sho_ | write a new session file and put it where kdm can find it |
| 19:41.54 | Sho_ | or write an .xinitrc and use startx |
| 19:42.20 | Sho_ | i mean, it's not magic: kde's regular session is just a shell script, too |
| 19:42.28 | judgen | according to documentation could "konsole --geometry=100x100" work |
| 19:42.35 | \marco | clearly depends on what judgen will have to do |
| 19:42.40 | Sho_ | and plasma-desktop is actually started using the normal autostart system nowadays |
| 19:42.55 | Sho_ | so that shellscript could either start konsole wrapped by kstart |
| 19:43.11 | Sho_ | or it could start kwin and konsole, and let kwin take care of maximizing konsole and hiding the deco |
| 19:43.12 | \marco | nice |
| 19:43.49 | Sho_ | the regular session is basically the same, only it starts a few things more :) |
| 19:44.09 | judgen | my documentation seems old on where kdm finds its session files... it talks about kde2 and fluxbox, and almost none of the dirs or files exist any more =D |
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| 19:44.27 | Sho_ | /usr/share/sessions these days on most distros |
| 19:44.29 | \marco | yep, I've looked at it once |
| 19:44.37 | judgen | cool |
| 19:44.45 | Sho_ | err sorry, xsessions+ |
| 19:44.54 | Sho_ | /usr/share/xsessions |
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| 19:48.21 | \marco | umpf...what an annoying bug.. |
| 19:48.22 | judgen | SessionManaged= should it be true or false? |
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| 19:51.39 | \marco | judgen: sorry, I don't know.. I've always see that field true but I don't know in this contest |
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| 19:52.41 | judgen | ill just put it to true and see what happens =P |
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| 19:53.37 | wodim | hi |
| 19:53.45 | wodim | there's no way of using the menu key as a shortcut? |
| 19:53.53 | wodim | when you hit it, the "what's this" menu appears |
| 19:54.02 | wodim | btw if you hit it several times, several menus appear |
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| 19:56.39 | Shojo | can i ask a non kde related question i didn't find answers in other places? |
| 19:57.07 | Shojo | if someone feels like helping ofcourse ^.^ |
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| 19:57.19 | judgen | surely, but do not expect too much =D |
| 19:57.32 | Shojo | uhm.. it's quite complicated:D |
| 19:57.41 | Shojo | but you guys always were nice :D |
| 19:57.53 | Shojo | so i'm not scared |
| 19:58.27 | Shojo | ok here goes: i want to make an USB bootable using terminal command |
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| 19:58.55 | Shojo | i'm to new to use unetbootin |
| 19:59.03 | Shojo | i tried |
| 19:59.06 | judgen | unetbootin has been broken for several months |
| 19:59.25 | Shojo | orly? noon told me, like several ppl recommended it to me :) |
| 19:59.27 | judgen | maybe you can just dd an iso to the usb stick instead and flag it as bootable? |
| 19:59.46 | Shojo | oh i copied it by copy paste lol |
| 19:59.52 | Shojo | the iso i mean |
| 20:00.02 | judgen | =D |
| 20:00.11 | Shojo | i did this in windows reaaaly fast and simple, but it looks so complicated in linux |
| 20:00.32 | judgen | it is really simple to dd an .iso file to an usb stick |
| 20:00.54 | Shojo | in wondows, i simply ran "syslinux -ma <USB drive> |
| 20:01.02 | \marco | I've to go, bye all :) |
| 20:01.03 | Shojo | then dropped the extracted iso file |
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| 20:01.10 | Shojo | That was all |
| 20:01.24 | judgen | to me that sounds more complicated. |
| 20:01.26 | Shojo | sighs... |
| 20:01.52 | Shojo | really judgen ? well i guess you're smart |
| 20:02.07 | Shojo | i'm new to linux.. :( |
| 20:02.27 | Shojo | so how do i dd and flag? |
| 20:02.50 | Shojo | i don't really know how to specify the UBS location |
| 20:02.54 | Shojo | USB* |
| 20:03.20 | judgen | lets say you want to dd archlinux20081131.iso to the usb stick "dd if=archlinux-2008.11.31-core-i686.iso of=/dev/sdc" but make sure you use the right sd* otherwise you might dd over some other partition or disk |
| 20:03.26 | Shojo | (btw, i'm ding this because i have a prolem with my DVD unit) |
| 20:03.39 | judgen | no problem... do you have an iso file? |
| 20:03.57 | Shojo | well im not sure about the location syntax really |
| 20:04.03 | Sho_ | judgen: fwiw, i once observed a case where someone wrote "the right sd*" and then the other guy wrote "sd*" |
| 20:04.03 | Shojo | so i'm scared |
| 20:04.07 | Sho_ | and guess what happened next |
| 20:04.18 | judgen | OUCH! |
| 20:04.22 | Sho_ | yeah |
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| 20:04.48 | Shojo | i dont know what a sd* is |
| 20:04.54 | Shojo | really scared |
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| 20:05.06 | judgen | Shojo: to find out graphically which sd<number> your usb is you can just look in for instance gparted |
| 20:05.13 | swerve | How can I make the font bigger in Skype in KDE? Does anyone know? |
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| 20:06.31 | judgen | swerve: i think the font is hardcoded. It is afterall an very old qt3 gui. |
| 20:06.43 | judgen | but ill look into it |
| 20:06.57 | swerve | thx. I can chane it in openbox, but not kde |
| 20:07.00 | Sho_ | otoh that means it might listen to the qt3 qtconfig app |
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| 20:07.15 | judgen | Sho_: yeah, i didnt think about that. |
| 20:07.21 | judgen | qtconfig-qt3 |
| 20:08.02 | judgen | Sho_: it works on opera atleast |
| 20:08.14 | swerve | yeah, i tried it through qtconfig. works in OB, but not KDE |
| 20:08.41 | judgen | swerve: that is odd... do you have some qt3 settings in kde perhaps? |
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| 20:09.27 | Shojo | judgen: gparted look like this for me http://freepicupload.com/view.php?filename=552gparted.png |
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| 20:10.11 | Shojo | Sho_: not an aggresive question, but are you copying my nick ? lol |
| 20:10.12 | judgen | Shojo: on the top you should select another drive |
| 20:10.17 | judgen | that is your harddrive |
| 20:10.38 | Sho_ | Shojo: no, i've been here using this nick for a decade ;) |
| 20:11.19 | judgen | hehe you youngsters =D |
| 20:11.45 | Sho_ | oh, i started using irc in ... '96 i think |
| 20:11.46 | judgen | i do not remember when i started nicking this name, perhaps 1992-93 something like that |
| 20:12.02 | Sho_ | and it was always my nick (well, usually without the underscore, but that was taken on freenode) |
| 20:12.29 | Shojo | judgen: http://freepicupload.com/images/368gparted_dev_sdd.png |
| 20:12.34 | judgen | my nick suits me, as my other real name is always taken.. "Dan" |
| 20:12.43 | maco | '96? thats the year i got my dec rainbow |
| 20:12.50 | Shojo | Sho_: i see, sorry for believing that ^.^ |
| 20:13.11 | judgen | Shojo: That is a usb stick |
| 20:13.18 | Sho_ | maco: i make up my irc youngsterishness by later taking over development of kde's irc client, i guess ;) |
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| 20:13.24 | judgen | Shojo: you only have one usb drive inside right now, right? |
| 20:13.39 | Shojo | judgen: well that's what i was looking for, the syntax for the usb location ? |
| 20:13.43 | Shojo | yes |
| 20:13.50 | maco | Sho_: the computer i mentioned didnt have internet access :P |
| 20:14.03 | Sho_ | ah |
| 20:14.06 | judgen | it is indeed /dev/sdd |
| 20:14.18 | Shojo | Sho_: can i call you bro ? ^.^ |
| 20:14.19 | maco | my first computer, 6 years older than me |
| 20:14.34 | Sho_ | Shojo: i don't mind ;) |
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| 20:14.50 | Shojo | grins happily |
| 20:14.55 | judgen | my first computer was an TI monstrosity (ok i didnt own it, but the company did) |
| 20:15.09 | Sho_ | maco: my first was a 486 DX2, though I was using the family 386 before - so yeah, don't really have a lot of tales of old adventures sadly |
| 20:15.44 | judgen | I do not miss the Texas intruments dumb terminals, and their awful keyboards. |
| 20:16.01 | Sho_ | and my first exposure to linux was only in 1999 |
| 20:16.03 | Shojo | judgen: so what would be the exact syntax to bb the iso to my usb (the iso is on Dektop..) |
| 20:16.10 | judgen | not bb it is dd |
| 20:16.18 | Shojo | sorry! |
| 20:16.21 | Shojo | :-s |
| 20:16.50 | Shojo | really doesn't want to mess up her system so is scared |
| 20:16.51 | judgen | Shojo: what is the name of the iso file? |
| 20:16.56 | maco | Sho_: well that was the family computer. the first computer to actually be "mine" was went to university |
| 20:17.01 | Sho_ | Shojo: dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdd bs=8M |
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| 20:17.40 | judgen | Sho_: he should not use bs=8M for cd isos |
| 20:17.42 | Shojo | openSUSE-12.1-DVD-i586.iso |
| 20:17.44 | judgen | 4M |
| 20:17.47 | judgen | oh it was a dvd |
| 20:17.49 | judgen | then yes 8M |
| 20:18.03 | Sho_ | judgen: I usually use 8M for CD ISOs too |
| 20:18.23 | judgen | Sho_: Oh we got a daring one =D |
| 20:18.37 | Sho_ | judgen: it's actually what fedora recommends, too |
| 20:19.11 | Shojo | the correct path to the iso would be /home/leejin/Desktop/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-i586.iso |
| 20:19.17 | Shojo | ? |
| 20:19.20 | judgen | yes |
| 20:19.26 | Shojo | thank you!!!! ^.^ |
| 20:19.33 | Shojo | <3 judgen |
| 20:19.37 | judgen | dd if=/home/leejin/Desktop/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-i586.iso f=/dev/sdd bs=8M |
| 20:19.40 | Sho_ | Shojo: is your pc actually 32bit? |
| 20:19.48 | judgen | ooops! |
| 20:19.49 | Shojo | yes |
| 20:19.51 | Sho_ | ok |
| 20:19.52 | judgen | dd if=/home/leejin/Desktop/openSUSE-12.1-DVD-i586.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=8M |
| 20:19.55 | judgen | the last one |
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| 20:19.59 | judgen | not the first one i wrote |
| 20:20.01 | Shojo | lol |
| 20:20.06 | Shojo | writing it down |
| 20:20.25 | judgen | well i am off to try my new session |
| 20:20.28 | judgen | later |
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| 20:24.37 | Shojo | aww, he/she left |
| 20:24.56 | Shojo | Sho_: u still here?^.^ |
| 20:25.05 | Sho_ | aye |
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| 20:25.09 | Shojo | weee |
| 20:25.13 | Shojo | hugs Sho_ |
| 20:25.17 | Sho_ | there must always be a Sho* |
| 20:25.24 | Shojo | heheeeeeeeeee |
| 20:25.43 | Shojo | you guys are the best of all chans :D |
| 20:26.45 | Sho_ | Shojo: although i raised an eyebrow given gnome and xchat on your screenie :p |
| 20:27.16 | BluesKaj | ok , enough with the mutual admiration :) |
| 20:27.20 | Shojo | lol why? |
| 20:27.42 | Shojo | BluesKaj: it wasn't mutual? |
| 20:27.45 | Sho_ | Shojo: well odd to be/ask here then |
| 20:28.00 | Shojo | haha |
| 20:28.34 | Shojo | like i said, no one was able, free or willing to help in other places:P |
| 20:28.48 | BluesKaj | well, not on my part , Shojo :) |
| 20:28.52 | Shojo | so i tried ^.^ |
| 20:28.54 | Sho_ | Shojo: use our stuff then! :p |
| 20:29.07 | Shojo | you mean use kde? |
| 20:29.09 | Sho_ | aye |
| 20:29.15 | Shojo | kubuntu? |
| 20:29.29 | Sho_ | any distro you prefer, really |
| 20:29.35 | Shojo | open suse has better compatibility with kde i hear |
| 20:29.45 | Shojo | i am on mint now and it's not so great |
| 20:29.54 | Sho_ | it certainly has some followers among the kde userbase, yeah |
| 20:30.03 | Sho_ | myself i use fedora currently, previously gentoo |
| 20:30.11 | Shojo | but i'm new so i had to use mint frist, to learn |
| 20:30.58 | Shojo | mwell i wanted to try our fedora next, but someone suggested suse |
| 20:31.11 | Shojo | i want fedora too ^.^ |
| 20:31.38 | Shojo | culd i put fedora and suse on the same usb to boot them? |
| 20:31.40 | Sho_ | fedora has a pretty cool kde crew (and so have other distros, of course) |
| 20:31.47 | Shojo | or it has to be one at a time? |
| 20:32.05 | Sho_ | well, you'd need to add a boot menu to the stick so that's a little more involved if you want both on it at the same time |
| 20:32.17 | Shojo | ok then:P |
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| 20:44.08 | Shojo | why did i think this would be easy:) |
| 20:44.28 | Shojo | now i want do make a multi boot menu lol |
| 20:44.50 | Shojo | i am upset with myself for being greedy but i can't help it |
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| 20:47.07 | BluesKaj | and what's with ext4 usng 14G on my external drive without an OS |
| 20:47.29 | Sho_ | how big is the drive? |
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| 20:47.44 | BluesKaj | 1Tb |
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| 20:47.59 | Sho_ | might be the percentage of space ext auto-reserves for the superuser then |
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| 20:48.08 | Sho_ | you can use tune2fs to alter that |
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| 20:53.47 | BluesKaj | Sho_, slow to resize if there's data already on the drive I suppose ? |
| 20:54.19 | Sho_ | no |
| 20:54.26 | Sho_ | should tale miliseconds |
| 20:54.29 | Sho_ | *take |
| 20:54.49 | BluesKaj | got a command as an example ? |
| 20:55.11 | Sho_ | tune2fs -m 0 /dev/foo |
| 20:55.41 | Sho_ | obviously something like -m 1 is saner |
| 20:55.49 | Sho_ | since the feature is a good idea |
| 20:56.03 | BluesKaj | m meaning ? |
| 20:56.33 | Sho_ | i don't think it has any meaning |
| 20:56.43 | Sho_ | "that character was still free" |
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| 21:00.19 | Shojo | Sho_: Which Fedora would you recommend ? I wish for something as bug free as possible |
| 21:00.22 | Shojo | <3 |
| 21:00.40 | muep | there is more than one fedora? |
| 21:00.56 | Shojo | i mean version :P |
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| 21:01.07 | Sho_ | Shojo: well, the Fedora 16 KDE CD |
| 21:01.21 | Shojo | ok so *not* DVD, got it |
| 21:01.23 | muep | whatever version of fedora you pick, you get to upgrade to a newer release soon enough |
| 21:01.26 | Shojo | snuggles Sho_ |
| 21:01.40 | muep | I'd just take the most recent stable release |
| 21:01.53 | Sho_ | Shojo: yeah, the CD is the recommended way to go for the KDE version |
| 21:02.05 | Shojo | Would Fedora 16 live desktop do? |
| 21:02.28 | muep | the 'desktop' image will install gnome |
| 21:02.38 | muep | which is a bit inconvenient if you intend to run kde instead |
| 21:02.54 | Shojo | oh, what should i get? |
| 21:04.41 | Sho_ | Shojo: the kde cd as mentioned |
| 21:04.50 | Sho_ | http://kde.fedoraproject.org |
| 21:04.58 | Shojo | Fedora 16 KDE Spin? |
| 21:05.02 | Sho_ | aye |
| 21:05.03 | Shojo | oh tks |
| 21:05.06 | Sho_ | bbl |
| 21:05.18 | Shojo | :D:D:D |
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| 21:10.04 | Shojo | muep: i want to install it on dual boot with Mint, do i have to add swap spaces? |
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| 21:20.35 | jammer5 | KDE v4.8.2 on openSUSE 12.1 - problem with virtual keyboard plasma widget. |
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| 22:01.41 | DoublePony | hrm im having problems with windows spawning on my crt tv which is blurry. and power user know how to fix this? |
| 22:01.48 | DoublePony | *any |
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| 22:11.58 | Shojo | DoublePony: try #windows |
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| 22:17.20 | DoublePony | Shojo: um, i was supposed to say my windows |
| 22:17.41 | DoublePony | they dont spawn where the mouse is or at least default LVDS1 instead of s-video :P |
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| 22:40.27 | Alan_Hicks | Good afternoon everyone. I'm running Slackware64-current with KDE 4.8.2. After recently rebooting using the launcher->logout-> reboot, everytime I log into KDE now, the desktop is upside-down. It starts loading properly, then by the time it reaches the K logo just before giving you the desktop, everything inverts and fonts and such are screwed up. |
| 22:40.56 | Alan_Hicks | The mouse isn't inverted, and the toolbar stays on the bottom, but the laucher is inverted, terminal windows and fonts are inverted, etc. |
| 22:42.09 | Alan_Hicks | I've done an "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup; startx" and it made no difference. The default KDE desktop started loading without my customized setup and flipped at the end just like before. |
| 22:44.00 | Alan_Hicks | Just tried it as the root user which had never loaded X before and KDE behaved the same way, so it isn't a setting tied to my local user. |
| 22:46.09 | Alan_Hicks | reboots don't clear the issue either. |
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| 22:47.01 | Alan_Hicks | Tested with fluxbox and the same behavior was not seen. This seems to link the issue specifically to something with KDE. |
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| 22:54.13 | Alan_Hicks | I'm running this on a Thinkpad T420 with nvidia optimus, but I've disabled the nvidia card and i'm only using the intel graphics. |
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| 23:09.36 | Phr33d0m | Alan_Hicks if you make a screenshot, does the desktop seem upside-down like you |
| 23:09.54 | Phr33d0m | like you're noticing or it appears normal in the screen/ |
| 23:10.13 | Phr33d0m | ?* |
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| 23:14.09 | Alan_Hicks | Phr33d0m: Not sure. I've just discovered that if I turn off desktop effects with ALT+SHFT+F12 the problem immediately goes away. Turning desktop effects back on immediately returns the issue. |
| 23:15.19 | alienBOB | Alan_Hicks: you're not the first I see mentioning this particular issue |
| 23:15.21 | Phr33d0m | Alan_Hicks go to desktop effects and see if you have enabled "Invert" effect |
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| 23:15.38 | Alan_Hicks | Phr33d0m: Checked that first. It's off. |
| 23:16.40 | Alan_Hicks | alienBOB: Yeah I've seen the same but no clear resolution for the issue. |
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| 23:17.23 | Phr33d0m | Alan_Hicks http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-current-kde-4-5-5-desktop-upside-down-864210/ |
| 23:17.28 | Alan_Hicks | The only desktop effects enabled are: Slide, Dialog Parent, Cover Switch, Desktop Grid, and Present Windows. |
| 23:17.34 | Phr33d0m | do what the first commend says, it could fix your issue |
| 23:17.40 | Phr33d0m | comment* |
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| 23:18.00 | Alan_Hicks | Phr33d0m: Yeah I found that earlier, but I'm using Intel, not nvidia. |
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| 23:18.23 | Phr33d0m | just reinstall your video drivers and see what happens |
| 23:18.32 | Alan_Hicks | grep -i nvidia /var/log/Xorg.0.log # no lines found |
| 23:18.50 | Alan_Hicks | Phr33d0m: I'll give that a shot. I'm at a loss to understand why that would make a difference though. |
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| 23:39.24 | Alan_Hicks | Phr33d0m: No change in re-installing the intel graphics driver. |
| 23:40.05 | Phr33d0m | no idea then |
| 23:41.25 | Alan_Hicks | Switching compositing type from OpenGL to Xrender works around the issue. |
| 23:41.54 | Alan_Hicks | I'm gonna switch back to the nvidia controller and see if that gives me opengl again. |
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