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00:52.34chuy308hi all, one question, which folders should I copy to skel, for keep my kde config
00:54.55chuy308this because i want other  new user have the same configuration, i really apreaceate any help
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04:21.14^BARrE|^is kde written to be threaded
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04:22.53Sho_^BARrE|^: many parts of KDE are multithreaded
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06:39.46Abhijithi. can not add screenlets to kde. help
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07:17.05johnny69Hi folks,  almost every entry in my "Kstart" menu is gone.  All I havei now is favorites,  run command and leave.  I tried running kmenueditor and clicking reset to default but that changed nothing at all.   Does anyone have any ideas?  is there a file it saves the entire menu to ?  Perhaps I can find a backup it's made?   Kde 4.7.x   thank you.
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08:53.44mivulfHow to do the same thing on kde? http://askubuntu.com/questions/69749/how-to-assign-a-vim-as-the-default-program-for-a-file-type-and-run-it-in-maximiz
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08:54.46rindolfmivulf: you can go to file associations in the Dolphin/Konqueror configuration.
08:59.13mivulfrindolf: yes, but 1) I need run with fullscreen 2) after closing file terminal is un-workable
09:01.08rindolfmivulf: I don't understand.
09:01.42rindolfmivulf: you can configure kwin to maximize gvim upon opening it.
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09:02.31mivulfrindolf: if I set file association on Dolphin, there are two problems: 1) konsole doesn't run on fullscreen 2) after closing the file, there is not bash, just nothing
09:02.46mivulfrindolf: no, gvim is bad. need vim+konsole exactly
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09:03.16rindolfmivulf: ah.
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09:05.05Sho_mivulf: then don't start vim but bash -c vim
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09:05.43pinotreekstart --fullscreen konsole -e vim filename
09:06.02Sho_kstart --fullscreen konsole -e bash -c vim filename then
09:07.22mivulfSho_: pinotree: Ah! thanks! so I need "kstart" instead of "konsole" command. that's it.
09:07.46Sho_kstart is for the fullscreen part
09:07.49pinotreeno, you still use konsole, just not call it directly
09:07.56Sho_if you want a shell after closing vim you need to run a shell
09:08.08Sho_hence bash -c
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09:10.14JackWinterenabled nepomuk again and now nepomuk and virtuoso have been chugging on my disks for 3 or 4 days :(
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09:11.02JackWinterok, have terrabytes and a lot of small files too, but how long is this gonna take
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09:13.36JackWinterbut my big problem is that i wanted to enable akonadi again, and i don't seem to be able to.  can't remember where i disabled it, but if i try to start it with akonadictl start, it crashes, says it's unable to connect to the mysql database, any ideas where i should start looking?
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09:15.58JackWinterthen it goes on trying to create the database and fails: http://pastie.org/3653365
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09:21.37mivulfokay, now I have this simple file: http://pastebin.com/zHAywNpc Its works fine, but after closing vim, shell isnot working =(
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09:46.09mivulfI have one .desktop file. And i can fine use it on context menu (right mouse). But when I trying to associate it, "/home/mivulf/.local/share/applications/XXX.desktop program not found" (but it exists)
09:46.17mivulfcan someone tell why?
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09:59.51jubo2I installed synaptiks ( touchpad driver ) on my Debian GNU/Linux with KDE and on startup the system says "Synaptiks driver not loaded or too old." the synaptiks process is running. I think I need to add a source for installing newer ( working ) synaptiks. How? Where? What?
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10:02.54JackWinternever mind, i remembered how i disabled akonadi, it's now up and running.  let's see how this works and when nepomuk will be finished :)
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10:46.12MamarokI try to get access to older notes from Knotes, but moving them to the Knotes folder in $HOME/.kde/share/apps/ didn't help. Adding the source to Akonadi either, Those still don't show up
10:46.49Mamaroklogged out and in again of course
10:48.51Mamarokany hint how this can be achieved? Those notes are quite important
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11:18.04jubo2I installed synaptiks ( touchpad driver ) on my Debian GNU/Linux with KDE and on startup the system says "Synaptiks driver not loaded or too old." the synaptiks process is running. I think I need to add a source for installing newer ( working ) synaptiks. How? Where? What?
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11:23.11Mamarokjubo2: that depends on your distribution: which do you use?
11:23.25jubo2Mamarok: Debian GNU/Linux
11:23.35jubo2Squeeze
11:23.40Mamarokjubo2: could you be more precise please?
11:23.56jubo2I use Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 ( Squeeze )
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11:24.43Mamarokjubo2: I guess you need to add a repository for a newer version then, but that is something to ask in #debian, it is not KDE related
11:25.17jubo2I guess the same..
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11:36.54BluesKajHey all
11:37.28jubo2hiya BluesKaj
11:37.42BluesKajhi jubo2
11:37.51jubo2how's things ?
11:38.32jubo2I need to find a way to install a newer version of synaptiks but I dunno where I find a repository with a new version
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11:42.22BluesKajjubo2,  why newer ?
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11:43.08BluesKajwhich distro jubo2 ?
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11:50.34jubo2BluesKaj: Debian GNU/Linux 6.0 ( Squeeze )
11:51.02jubo2BluesKaj: on start-up the system complains that the synaptiks driver is not installed or too old
11:53.25jubo2BluesKaj: and the driver _is_ installed ( I see synaptik running as a service ) so it's gotta be that it's too old
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11:58.33BluesKajjubo2,  does synaptiks work ? Do you have a proprietary driver installed ?
11:59.13jubo2BluesKaj: it does not work
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13:12.13Abhijithow can i permantnly stick a running konsole session to desktop above wallpaper in kde?
13:12.14Abhijithelp
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13:14.16rindolfAbhijit: hi.
13:14.49rindolfAbhijit: there may be a plasmoid for doing that.
13:15.02Abhijitok
13:15.11Peace-youkuaque
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13:15.17Peace-or something like that
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13:24.43AcidcoreI just noticed that since I updated to KDE 4.8 Dolphin shows the full name of all files and folders in the directory, no matter how long they are. How can I fix that?
13:25.08Peace-Acidcore: mm actually... it's a feature
13:25.31Peace-before you had not that possibility
13:25.56Acidcorebut now i don't have the possibility to not use that if i don't like it, do i?
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13:27.11Acidcorebtw sorry i used the word 'fix' i meant how can i make Dolphin show only part of the name of long file/folder names
13:28.01Acidcoreso far everything else I've noticed in KDE 4.8 is awesome but this feature is quite uncomfortible for me
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13:35.01Acidcoreso can I actually prevent it from showing the full names?
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13:35.17AcidcoreI was looking through the settings and couldn't find anything about it
13:40.12AcidcorePeace-, sorry but are yu sure it's a feature? i see someone filed a bug report about it and to be honest I agree with him
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13:42.14Peace-Acidcore: i have read the blog of dolphin developer
13:43.31Peace-Acidcore: http://ppenz.blogspot.it/2011/08/introducing-dolphin-20.html
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13:43.50Acidcorewell if this is the only way it could be it isn't actually a possibility however, can you please explain me the practicle use for it or in short Why?
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13:44.26Peace-Acidcore: dino is another file manager qt
13:44.54Acidcorei wasn't giving it hard time, i was actually asking how can that be useful
13:45.01Peace-Acidcore: mayne setting the line for the name to 1
13:45.05Peace-i really dunno
13:45.27Acidcoreso I can actually set the number lines?
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13:48.34rmrcan somebody tell me what does the following statement means? class KDEUI_EXPORT KTipDatabase
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13:49.39Acidcoreas for the file manager, thank you Peace- I guess that will be my only option if I can't limit the number of lines of the name
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14:21.44ChALkeRHi all. Does anybody know why plasma uses raster icons?
14:21.52ChALkeRInstead of scalable ones.
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14:26.10daemonkeeperHi, is there any more native method for (detachable) KDE remote desktops? VNC and NX don't cope with Policy Kit.
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14:31.50abehi all.... at present what is the best way to fill something to a PDF and print it out (or print as another PDF) in KDE?
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14:32.13daemonkeeperokular can.
14:32.34abeI can't seems to save any annotation back to the PDF, nor print it out
14:32.56ChALkeRIt doesn't save annotations in pdf.
14:33.04ChALkeRBut i can print out filled forms.
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14:33.10BluesKajhow do other users make kde their default desktop ...someone is asking me in another chat and I have no experience with that
14:33.31abeChALkeR: is there any special option to set? I print it and all annotations are gone
14:33.43abeprinted a blank form :(
14:33.45ChALkeRForms, not annotations…
14:34.04abeoh I see... so if it's not a form, then I can't overlay some text and print right?
14:34.38abethe doc is a form, but not in a PDF form format unfortunately
14:34.49ChALkeRI didn't find a sane way to print annotations done by okular.
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14:35.25ChALkeRBut if you are sharing with another okular user, you can just give him a file with saved annotations.
14:35.31swerveyou can't print from gwenview? Seriously?
14:35.44vageeshhi, Im using kstars and when I installed using apt-get , I got version 1.6.0 but it has some bugs and the bug page dose not have that version . Is there a way  I can get a newer version from the repository?
14:36.10abethx ChALkeR for your explaination... guess I might have to end up importing to GIMP rasterizing it then
14:37.00ChALkeRswerve: why not?
14:37.27swerveIDK, there's no print dialog anywhere
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14:38.30ChALkeRswerve: try ctrl+p
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14:38.38pinotreefile → print, at least with gwenview of kde 4.7.4
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14:38.50swervenothing happens
14:39.21ChALkeRCan you give a screenshot of your "file" menu?
14:39.41swervethere is no file menu, and the print icon is grayed out
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14:40.41ChALkeRDo you have a menu?
14:40.58swerveprints fine from okular
14:41.04swerveno menu
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14:55.33ChALkeRswerve: press ctrl+m
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14:58.37swerveThere's the menu! lol. should be a right-click option for hiding/showing menu
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15:10.11Abhijiti installed plasmacon but i am unable to set its background to transparent
15:10.24Abhijitwhen i click on ok or applly the changed does not take effect
15:10.25Abhijithep
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15:37.14BluesKajAbhijit,  plasmacon ?
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15:38.56AbhijitBluesKaj, i need to go. will talk to you later. thanks for trying to help
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17:05.57jospoortvlietanyone happen to have any clue as to how to set a trash folder in KMail?
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17:20.13hcc23jospoortvliet: Like where to move email that is deleted?
17:20.41hcc23That you can do via yout Identities .
17:20.44jospoortvliethcc23: yes
17:20.51hcc23s/yout/your
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17:21.21jospoortvlietsomehow it just turned up... after a few restarts and all that the option is now under settings - accounts - advanced
17:21.33hcc23settings->kmail->identities->advanced
17:21.34jospoortvlietno idea why it wasn't there before... I modified the config files by hand, maybe that was it
17:21.43jospoortvliethcc23: I see it under accounts, not under identities.
17:22.11Zathrazhi. I am looking for the following: a user (linux or windows) connects with SSH (x11 forwarding) to a server. Not just a shell starts but KDE starts. How do I do this (on Debian) please?
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17:22.39hcc23jospoortvliet: hm... for me accounts is just the akonadi stuff... but again, my akonadi isn't really working... :/
17:22.54Zathrazit's trivial to start an app, but I want KDE to start in total so i have a proper KDE session and Autostart does it's job by trying to start x11vnc
17:23.25Zathrazany pointers appreciated
17:23.35jospoortvliethcc23: any case, thanks :D
17:25.02jospoortvlietZathraz: 'startkde'
17:25.06jospoortvlietmight be helpful :D
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17:32.39Zathrazhmm. I am gomeuser. sorry. Was an obvious one.
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17:33.38Zathrazthanks
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17:37.50alesanhi! is there a "recommended" twitter client for KDE?
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17:52.50rindolfalesan: hi.
17:52.55rindolfalesan: there's Choqok.
17:53.11alesanthat's what I installed thanks
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18:08.31pinotreemivulf: make sure it is in $PATH
18:09.26inxiUsing KDE 4.7, is it possible to run kwin standalone and not have it hide the root window?
18:10.06pinotreemgraesslin: ↑
18:10.23mivulfpinotree: thanks!
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18:59.44mkpaaanyone got owncloud+caldav+korganizer working? I can add caledar and akonadi says everything is ok, but calendars are not listed in korganizer
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20:29.48graenseAre there any desktop widgets for Thunderbird?  (Or for an imap account that can be opened with an arbitrary client?)
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20:33.39graenseI have Incoming Messages and M@il Checker, but one only works with KMail, and the other just generates errors when I try to use it.
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21:47.49GaganDeepwho is  TBD , mentor for kmail in gsoc??
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22:06.53romildoRecently kpat started to slow the conclusion of a card movement. When I take a card and drop it at a pile of cards, it stays quiet for some seconds besides the pile of cards, and then it is put over the pile. This behavior is new on my ~amd64 gentoo system. Is this normal now, or is there something wrong?
22:08.00romildoQt: 4.8.0, KDE Development Platform: 4.8.1 (4.8.1), KPatience: 3.6
22:08.07romildoAny clue?
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22:09.22Paddy_NIHello I was just wondering where splash screens install there files to when I use the "Splash Screen KDE Control Module"
22:09.39Paddy_NIMy aim is to replace one of the background files with another
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22:13.42romildoRecently kpat started to slow the conclusion of a card movement in the spider game. When I take a card and drop it at a pile of cards, it stays quiet for some seconds before being placed in its final place. This behavior is new on my ~amd64 gentoo system. Is this normal now, or is there something wrong? Any clues?
22:14.29romildoIt is really annoying having to wait a few seconds on each card movement.
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22:21.15GaganDeepi need some help regarding code base of kmail/messagecomposer..can you tell me how to proceed ...i mean its really big. I want to do the HTML part of Kmail in gsoc
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22:40.28romildoWhat I have described is a bug with kpat: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=290729
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