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| 00:10.08 | jerichowasahoax | I forget what's the name of the KDE calendar program? |
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| 00:14.10 | shevy | code faster! |
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| 00:20.24 | Raptors | Hey guys, IDK if this is a bug or not but the calander/date widget in KDE4 wont let me change the holidays |
| 00:20.35 | Raptors | The option is there but if I try to click on it, nothing happens |
| 00:20.43 | Raptors | Is this a Arch bug or a KDE bug? |
| 00:20.59 | Raptors | like click on the holiday for the country I want... |
| 00:21.23 | Raptors | ie Canada. I don't care about American holidays |
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| 00:22.42 | DaZ | Raptors: how do you change it? |
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| 00:25.44 | Raptors | DaZ, I tried changing it via settings |
| 00:25.48 | Raptors | right click -> settings |
| 00:26.15 | Raptors | I can see all the countrys and the regions but if I try clicking on one to change it, it doesn't highlight it or do anything |
| 00:26.25 | Raptors | kde 4.8 |
| 00:26.31 | Raptors | countries* |
| 00:28.23 | DaZ | what can i say, i'm running arch and kde and it seems to work fine :x |
| 00:29.00 | DaZ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1072330/5676.png you sure it's this? :x |
| 00:29.35 | Raptors | DaZ, not working for me |
| 00:29.37 | Raptors | 1 sec |
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| 00:32.57 | Raptors | DaZ, omg I'm a retard |
| 00:33.03 | Raptors | the window wasn't full size |
| 00:33.04 | Raptors | orz |
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| 00:33.54 | DaZ | oh, happened to me as well, but i already knew about the comboboxes :x |
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| 01:30.06 | calamari | hi. I have my bluetooth headset connected, and it shows up in veromix.. but I can't figure out how to force kde 4.7.4 to play sound through it.. sound still goes to my external speakers (for all apps). I tried setting the headset as the "default sink", but that didn't seem to matter. any ideas? |
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| 01:51.02 | goddard | when i use kde over ssh it is slow on ubuntu |
| 01:51.30 | goddard | it blacks out for a second then finishes uploading then is responsive again |
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| 01:53.58 | rdieter_laptop | goddard: not surprising (not specific to ubuntu), kde's default oxygen theming is fairly inefficient with remote applications. |
| 01:55.06 | rdieter_laptop | gradients, and shadows look very nice on a local display though. |
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| 02:39.18 | gglitch | Question: if I, as a user of Xubuntu 11.10, install kubuntu-desktop, to have the option of logging into either one, what exactly will happen? I know a bunch of kde stuff will be downloaded and installed, but will KDE stuff run in the background even when I'm logged into xfce? |
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| 02:42.55 | goddard | rdieter_laptop: a theme affects remoting? |
| 02:43.21 | goddard | I like a lot of KDE apps but I also like unity what should I do? |
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| 02:57.11 | gglitch | goddard: I'm in the same boat, or a similar one. I find KDE to be slow and, for me at least, sometimes unpredictable. But I love kioslaves, digiKam, and Gwenview. |
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| 03:54.36 | goddard | yeah im doing that now am i like kate over gedit but the main thing i use it for is editing files over sftp |
| 03:54.48 | goddard | sadly kate doesn't do this very well |
| 03:55.34 | goddard | dolphin is pretty nice as well |
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| 05:01.14 | scoopex | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287334 ...this is real pain.... |
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| 05:01.54 | scoopex | why is kde integrating so many neat features but does not fix basic things like that? |
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| 05:03.55 | scoopex | can anybody provide a recommendation what to do to get a better attention for that problem: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=287334 |
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| 05:11.27 | KnusperKeks | Good evening....i have a widget that crashes my plasma desktop everytime i use it after 5min (webcamoid). Could someone please tell me where is the plasma desktop logfile so i can find out what the problem is thx in advance |
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| 05:40.05 | yottabit | ah in konqueror, easy |
| 05:40.08 | yottabit | firefox is another story |
| 05:40.16 | yottabit | something to do with about:config |
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| 08:48.58 | abe | having used KDE4 for quite a long while, I feel that Dolphin startup(or even when there's active dolphin running) is not as snappy as e.g. the MS Windows File Manager. just wondering if it is "normal"? |
| 08:50.49 | tsimpson | well Windows cheats, it pre-loads the file manager at login |
| 08:51.27 | abe | haha yep, but then even when I have an instant of Dolphin running, the startup of another Dolphin window isn't as snappy as the MS one! |
| 08:51.43 | tsimpson | you could try changing the way dolphin displays files/folders, like disabling the preview, and maybe removing the information panel. that could speed it up a little |
| 08:52.15 | tsimpson | also, windows cheats again, it re-uses the instances and just displays another window |
| 08:52.22 | tsimpson | that cheating little so and so |
| 08:53.10 | abe | I kindof tried different settings, but doesn't really make much difference. It is "fast", but just no close to the cheating windows ;) |
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| 08:54.06 | tsimpson | yeah, it just isn't quite as snappy. but I guess it is doing a lot more, in terms of examining files |
| 08:54.24 | abe | that's why I wonder if others experience similar behavior, or it's just me. I test it "side by side"... with Windows maybe disadvantaged as it is running in VirtualBox |
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| 08:55.05 | abe | I see... good to know it is probably an expected behavior :) |
| 08:55.09 | tsimpson | I don't use windows too often, unless I have to, but I think subsequent loads are much faster on windows compared to dolphin |
| 08:55.18 | tsimpson | but there's nothing like having a terminal open for speedy file management :) |
| 08:55.31 | abe | yep... no Windows here expect in VirtualBox haha |
| 08:55.34 | tsimpson | even better if that terminal is yakuake |
| 08:55.42 | abe | lol :) |
| 08:56.27 | abe | anyhow, I'm a happy KDE user! |
| 08:57.18 | abe | just that it's hard to explain when I get others to try.... the perspective feeling of snappiness isn't a nice 1st experience |
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| 08:59.28 | tsimpson | just tell them that they may have to wait a second for dolphin, but at least the system boots and is *usable* in less than 15 mins |
| 09:00.03 | abe | lol... |
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| 09:15.51 | plat | hi all |
| 09:16.16 | plat | what the diference between kdebase-meta or kde-meta |
| 09:16.49 | pinotree | plat: ask in the channel of your distro |
| 09:17.04 | plat | what is this room |
| 09:17.06 | plat | for them |
| 09:17.08 | plat | ppffff |
| 09:17.10 | plat | looser |
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| 09:17.38 | pinotree | new kidz on the block |
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| 09:26.09 | viKtor_ | hi guys what app can i use to scan into pdf files? |
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| 09:32.56 | pingufan | Hello, I have big troubles with kmail2 on my opensuse 12.1. I used kmail up to opensuse 11.4 without troubles, but this crap (kmail2) makes only troubles. They start with migrating - WHICH DOES NOT WORK. |
| 09:33.12 | pingufan | Can somebody, please, help? Can I return to kmail1 ? |
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| 09:35.59 | thiago | pingufan: what kind of accounts are they? IMAP or something else? |
| 09:36.19 | pingufan | IMAP. |
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| 09:36.42 | pingufan | And I have lots of folders, rules, automatic moves, ... |
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| 09:37.41 | pingufan | Can you help me getting it working, or shall I pick out the 11.4 SuSE DVD and install kmail from there (which is kmail1)? |
| 09:37.56 | thiago | the easiest way is to start kmail2 without the migration and then simply recreate the accounts |
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| 09:38.14 | thiago | rules should be server-side, not client-side |
| 09:38.25 | pingufan | Ok. But it tells me that there was a failure and automatically closes. |
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| 09:40.06 | thiago | you didn't say that. What's the error message? |
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| 09:40.34 | pingufan | Do you understand German, or shall I translate? |
| 09:40.49 | thiago | translate |
| 09:40.54 | thiago | or run kmail in English, which is better |
| 09:41.17 | pingufan | Error at getting Ressource collection. |
| 09:41.25 | pingufan | or something like that |
| 09:41.59 | pingufan | When I quit this message, kmail closes. |
| 09:43.37 | pingufan | shall I delete its directory? |
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| 09:44.01 | thiago | do you have any email outside an IMAP account? |
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| 09:44.09 | digitalknight | hi all |
| 09:44.17 | pingufan | No. |
| 09:44.35 | thiago | ok, then it should be ok. But to be on the safe side, don't delete, just move the folders away. |
| 09:44.51 | thiago | also ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc and ~/.local/share/akonadi/ |
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| 09:45.01 | thiago | and ~/.config/akonadi/ |
| 09:45.16 | thiago | anyway, I have to go |
| 09:45.44 | pingufan | Is there a kmail1 available? |
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| 10:06.07 | nettezzz | hello, fast Q; |
| 10:06.22 | nettezzz | how can i reset a bottom panel to factory defaults ? |
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| 10:07.07 | abe | right click on desktop->Add Panel->Default Panel? is it what you want? |
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| 11:56.17 | shevy | hmm the default browser in KDE, is it dolphin? and it relies on webkit? |
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| 11:58.32 | abe | shevy: konqueror is still the default browser I believe (I don't use it, so I could be outdated on this) |
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| 12:00.37 | findow | hello everyone |
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| 12:02.03 | findow | Is this the appropriate channel to discuss about GSOC here? |
| 12:02.30 | pinotree | #kde-soc should be |
| 12:04.09 | Peace- | shevy: konqueror and rekonq |
| 12:04.21 | Peace- | shevy: btw just use firefox for the most of times is better |
| 12:04.33 | Peace- | there are other browser qt btw |
| 12:04.34 | shevy | yeah thing is my firefox does not work right now, and opera goes on my nerves |
| 12:04.45 | Peace- | shevy: you can try this one |
| 12:04.48 | Peace- | wait |
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| 12:06.11 | Peace- | shevy: http://www.qupzilla.com/ |
| 12:06.17 | Peace- | shevy: it's gpl and qt |
| 12:06.27 | shevy | oh? |
| 12:06.47 | shevy | never saw that one before |
| 12:07.07 | Peace- | shevy: it's webkit browser |
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| 12:07.42 | Peace- | shevy: you can search for it here http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QupZilla?content=145693 |
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| 12:08.48 | shevy | cool, looking at it right now |
| 12:10.32 | abe | speaking of Firefox... is there any good way to get the firefox file download "open with" dialog replaced with the native KDE open-with one? |
| 12:11.08 | Peace- | abe: yes there is |
| 12:11.10 | B-ZaR | I recall arch wiki having a way in KDE page |
| 12:11.27 | Peace- | abe: on kubuntu there is by default |
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| 12:11.44 | abe | Peace-: oh really! I wonder how I may get it on my gentoo :) |
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| 12:12.19 | Peace- | abe: you can check the firefox installer on kubuntu |
| 12:12.57 | Peace- | abe: firefox just seems a qt apps |
| 12:13.07 | abe | that is cool |
| 12:13.53 | shakingwaves | what is this... |
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| 12:14.43 | Peace- | abe: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KGtk+%28Use+KDE+Dialogs+in+Gtk+Apps%29?content=36077 |
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| 12:14.55 | Peace- | abe: i am not sure if it's what kubuntu uses but it should be it |
| 12:14.58 | abe | thx... I'm checking the arch wiki also |
| 12:15.19 | abe | it mentions a KParts Plugin |
| 12:15.45 | Peace- | abe: This is a quick-and-dirty LD_PRELOAD hack that allows *some* Gtk applications to use KDE's file dialogs when run under KDE. |
| 12:15.54 | Peace- | :) |
| 12:15.59 | abe | the 1st line of KGtk is funny: a quick and dirty hack :D |
| 12:16.06 | abe | lol |
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| 12:19.55 | abe | Peace-: but it doesn't look like KGtk provides the Application selection "open with" dialog... just file-selection dialog is it? |
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| 12:21.02 | pingufan | Hello, can somebody, please, help me getting my email working again? This stupid kmail2 is a nightmare, dows not migrate troublefree from kmail1, and crashes at startup because it cannot load some resource. |
| 12:21.57 | Peace- | abe: http://luisfpg.blogspot.com/2009/07/making-firefox-using-kdes-open-file.html |
| 12:22.20 | Peace- | abe: i remember that but i am *not sure* |
| 12:22.26 | pingufan | As I use an IMAP account, it is not such problematic with existing mails, but I even cannot get it working! |
| 12:23.45 | abe | Peace-: my description probably get confused. I mean the kde dialog where you can pick from the list of applications to open with |
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| 12:24.05 | Peace- | abe: ahh |
| 12:24.14 | abe | the one that you right click on a file in dolphin->Open With->Others |
| 12:24.31 | abe | Peace-: :-) |
| 12:25.22 | Peace- | oh well for that :D i dunno |
| 12:25.56 | pingufan | Oh, I just found out that the address book is also empty. |
| 12:26.20 | abe | don't worry. The file-open dialog is almost equvalent anyway, so I am not v fuss about replacing it... but the application selection dialog is just "missing" ;) |
| 12:28.25 | Peace- | abe: well... there is firefox-qt but it's unstable |
| 12:28.38 | Peace- | :D |
| 12:29.00 | abe | yeah... had a look at it last year... but it doesn't seems to have much attention |
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| 12:30.28 | abe | and eventually I gave up... and just start picking the executable with the absolute file path :D |
| 12:31.10 | pingufan | Where did the addressbook of openSuSE 11.4 (already KDE 4) store its data? |
| 12:32.28 | pingufan | I see the kabc directory, but the std.vcf is empty! |
| 12:33.05 | abe | pingufan: if the mails are safe (in IMAP), why not create a new account and start testing it again? PS: I've never use kmail2... and prob for 5 mins only in kmail1(before I look elsewhere), so no experience here :) |
| 12:33.15 | abe | new KDE user account I mean |
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| 12:34.06 | pingufan | I have lots of software installed and configured. |
| 12:34.56 | abe | just as a test if it is really not working at all.... isolate as much unrelated uncertainty for troubleshooting only.... |
| 12:35.36 | abe | not saying you have to delete your current user account... just create a new kde user and have a go.. |
| 12:36.13 | pingufan | I would be happy to know where this addressbook is located. I remember akonadi |
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| 12:38.48 | pingufan | How can I get kmail2 starting without crashing? |
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| 13:01.11 | shapo | i have two problems with the "folder view" widget when i use it on the panel: first, is there a way to reverse the sorting (by reverse date, reverse name, etc.)? second, is there a way to win some space (http://i.imgur.com/ltW51.png) as there is a lot of blank space between two lines currently |
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| 13:17.40 | Mamarok | shapo: well, I don't think it is meant to be used in the panel but on the desktop |
| 13:18.04 | Mamarok | all settings are accessible with a right click on it BTW |
| 13:18.54 | shapo | Mamarok: i still can't reverse the order even when i use it on the desktop |
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| 13:20.37 | Mamarok | well, that function is not available you can file a wish for that though |
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| 13:22.26 | Mamarok | shapo: you could sue the Quick Access widget instead |
| 13:22.28 | Mamarok | use* |
| 13:22.46 | Mamarok | there you can use the sorting settings of Dolphin |
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| 13:23.02 | shapo | Mamarok: thanks i'll try |
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| 13:23.54 | shapo | Mamarok: i can't find that widget |
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| 13:24.32 | shapo | Mamarok: i've tried "Download new plasma widgets" and searched for "quick access" but i only got the widget "quickurl" as a result |
| 13:27.19 | shapo | Mamarok: what's the name of the widget you're talking about? |
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| 13:37.41 | shapo | Mamarok: ok i've found it: plasma-widget-quickaccess |
| 13:37.49 | shapo | but this widget did not get updated since 2009 :( |
| 13:37.49 | pingufan | Hello, meanwhile I got help in #suse for the problem with kmail2 and the wrong resource. It works now. |
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| 13:39.16 | pingufan | What I still miss, is my addressbook. As I worked before with openSuSE 11.4 and the std.vcf file is empty, my addresses surely stuck somewhere in akonadi. Can somebody, please help? I need extremely urgently my addresses. |
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| 13:45.45 | abe | I wish I could help but sorry I don't know. I smell another one at the edge of completely ditching akonada thingy... |
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| 13:50.21 | BluesKaj | Hi all |
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| 13:54.54 | pingufan | abe: Sometimes I question myself why this KDE developers cannot keep their fingers under control. It worked so wonderful in older versions, so why change that? I could shoot them. |
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| 13:59.09 | Mamarok | pingufan: with that attitude you are not going very far... |
| 14:00.44 | pingufan | But then I have a stable and rock solid desktop, while I currently have to be afraid with every update, if things will (hopefully) still be working. |
| 14:01.01 | pingufan | I feel like a laboratory rat. |
| 14:01.03 | annma | pingufan: did you ask #opensuse-kde about your problems |
| 14:01.29 | pingufan | I can do so. |
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| 14:03.38 | Mamarok | pingufan: then don't upgrade |
| 14:04.15 | pingufan | (chuckle). And then I get no fixes for the whole system? |
| 14:04.31 | Mamarok | well, since everything is so rock solid there is not upgrade needed? |
| 14:04.46 | Mamarok | sorry, you are not very logical |
| 14:06.20 | pingufan | You mis-understand. I expect that updates and upgrades lead into more solid function. Instead, I experience - especially in point of kmail and kaddressbook - enormous changes, leading into less reliability. |
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| 14:06.44 | pingufan | Every upgrade had troubles with mail and addresses, so now again. |
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| 14:07.21 | pingufan | Why is this necessary? Why not release something after making such vital things absolutely bullet proof? |
| 14:08.38 | pingufan | So (again), I can only hope that someone knows how to get the problems solved. |
| 14:08.56 | Mamarok | pingufan: it works much better with the latest upgrade for me, so it might well be distribution specific |
| 14:09.49 | pingufan | I hope that, too. |
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| 14:10.29 | pingufan | Can you help me with getting my addresses back into access? I cannot work without them. |
| 14:10.51 | Mamarok | checked your Akonadi ressources? |
| 14:11.29 | pingufan | Where and how? |
| 14:11.51 | pingufan | (I am a user, no developer) |
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| 14:12.09 | Mamarok | neither am I |
| 14:12.15 | Mamarok | pingufan: in the adressbook part of kontact? |
| 14:12.33 | pingufan | I directly use kaddressbook |
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| 14:14.27 | Mamarok | pingufan: in the file menu -> Add adressbook |
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| 14:15.02 | Mamarok | actually File menu -> New -> Add adress book |
| 14:15.25 | pingufan | I add a new one instead on opening an existing one? |
| 14:15.31 | Mamarok | there you can choose the resource |
| 14:15.56 | Mamarok | well, you just said you didn't have any, so select the resource and get an existing one into kadressbook |
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| 14:16.26 | pingufan | Is it the KDE Address Book (traditional) ? |
| 14:16.35 | Mamarok | I don't know what you used before? |
| 14:17.34 | pingufan | I can only guess. In 10.x (SuSE) I used the std.vcf it was migrated in 11.4 into something with Akonadi, I guess, because the std.vcf is empty. |
| 14:17.49 | Mamarok | then check the Akonadi ressource |
| 14:18.58 | pingufan | I see no akonadi resource |
| 14:19.18 | abe | pingufan: I would suggest doing a backup of your /home/<your_username> first if possible... just in case you mess it up even further |
| 14:19.55 | Mamarok | then akonadi is not running I guess? |
| 14:20.12 | Mamarok | as it is the first choice in the selection normally |
| 14:21.09 | pingufan | Ok. Is Akonadi something different to that what nepomuk uses? How do i start Akonadi? |
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| 14:22.05 | Mamarok | it should normally start by default, and no, it has nothing to do with Nepomuk which is the Semantic Desktop |
| 14:22.30 | Mamarok | unless Opensuse did change that, I can't tell, I use Kubuntu |
| 14:22.45 | pingufan | Should I see some daemon running when akonadi us up? |
| 14:23.22 | Mamarok | yes, in the system settings click on the ^ on the right of it and check the Akonadi Tray |
| 14:23.28 | Mamarok | there you can configure Akonadi |
| 14:23.37 | pingufan | I see lots of rainer 9490 0.0 0.4 386620 36132 ? S 13:26 0:01 /usr/bin/akonadi_kabc_resource --identifier akonadi_kabc_resource_0 |
| 14:23.56 | Mamarok | see what I just wrote |
| 14:26.29 | pingufan | I opened KDE System settings. In which section ? |
| 14:26.43 | Mamarok | read again, I didn't say that |
| 14:27.37 | Mamarok | The Akonadi Tray icon is a blue ball in a blue cup, look for it in the SystemTray in the panel |
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| 14:28.14 | Mamarok | right click on that and there you have an option "Configure Akonadi" |
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| 14:31.19 | Mamarok | Else you can go to the systemsettings -> Personal information and configure Akonadi there |
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| 14:32.18 | pingufan | Should I see something in KDE Systemsettings? |
| 14:33.12 | Mamarok | see above |
| 14:33.33 | Mamarok | I told you both ways to access Akonadi |
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| 14:43.53 | katsrc | does anyone know how can get new email notifications from my IMAP account in Kmail without actually having the Kmail application running? |
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| 14:48.49 | pingufan | I searched all the time, I cannot find something Akonadi related. |
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| 14:49.31 | Mamarok | pingufan: where was your contacts file before that, did you search for it? |
| 14:49.42 | quup | hi, how can I make that lower panel be on all monitors? |
| 14:50.00 | quup | or even better, be on all monitors but only list windows that are on that monitor |
| 14:50.06 | pingufan | I have no idea where it was. |
| 14:50.12 | pingufan | "default" |
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| 14:52.03 | pingufan | What shall I search? |
| 14:53.49 | quup | figured it out myself \o/ |
| 14:58.59 | Mamarok | pingufan: try searching here: $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kabc/ |
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| 14:59.39 | pingufan | You mean .kde4, I guess. (At least in openSuSE it is named this) |
| 15:00.55 | pingufan | Can I create an addressbook from my existing emails? |
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| 15:01.39 | pingufan | The problem is: kmail (at least the old one) did not search in all mails during autocomplete |
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| 15:03.28 | pingufan | In .kde4/share/apps/kabc I only find empty vcf files. :( |
| 15:03.40 | Mamarok | you should have an address file somewhere, or do you never make backups? |
| 15:03.42 | pingufan | And a directory named lock. |
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| 15:04.52 | pingufan | I have all data on my server. But you are right, I did not make a backup of my workstation. |
| 15:06.23 | pingufan | Anyway. i give up. |
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| 15:07.03 | pingufan | Is there a way to move email addresses (and nothing else was there) from kmail2 -> addressbook ? |
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| 15:17.59 | shundi | hi all :) |
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| 15:18.50 | Mamarok | pingufan: did you try looking for a file named *.vcf on your workstation? |
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| 15:19.22 | pingufan | Yes, but I will do an extended search with find. |
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| 15:21.30 | pingufan | Btw. I niticed right now that my kmail does not send mails. They stuck on the output folder. My SMTP server does not need any authentification or encryption. |
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| 15:30.23 | viKtor_ | could anybody tell me why kde is better than unity or gnome? i can't decide what to use and from now as far as i know i can't find a kde app that scan documents in pdf ext |
| 15:30.24 | viKtor_ | :S |
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| 15:34.18 | pingufan | Mamarok: Why doesn't kmail2 send my mails out? I tried it right now from a terminal window (manually), my mail server is working perfectly. |
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| 15:35.55 | schijnn | How do I install new styles? |
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| 15:38.50 | damnshock | you first have to find them |
| 15:39.01 | damnshock | and then, if available, use your distro package manager |
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| 15:39.11 | damnshock | last resorting to manual installation |
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| 15:40.53 | rdieter | viKtor_: folks here will obviously be a little biased liking kde, but which environment is ultimately best for you is largely subjective. i'd suggest you simply try them all, and stick with what works best for you. |
| 15:41.06 | quup | alt+f2 pops up on whatever monitor you have the mouse pointer at is fantastic! |
| 15:41.12 | quup | kde feels so well designed |
| 15:42.02 | viKtor_ | rdieter: i love kde, the way it works and looks, it's really amazing, but still i find some lacking features really simples that i had in gnome like the topic of multipages scanning and pdf saving |
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| 15:45.43 | rdieter | viKtor_: whatever gnome app you used for scanning... I'd guess is usable anywhere, even in kde. :) |
| 15:46.18 | rdieter | best of both worlds |
| 15:46.59 | Mamarok | pingufan: is the outgoing configured correctly? |
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| 15:52.58 | pingufan | I find no fault. I entered my server's name (goliath) and also tried the fqhn (but not the IP until now). That should be sufficient. |
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| 15:53.55 | pingufan | In extended settings, i chose: No encryption port25 and plain (as I cannot select "none". |
| 15:54.21 | pingufan | Actually, I would need "none". |
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| 16:00.08 | pingufan | Mamarok: Does kmail2 pherhaps not allow sending mails w/o autohentication? |
| 16:00.34 | Mamarok | that entirely depends on the server you use for sending. |
| 16:00.44 | Mamarok | sendmail or smtp? |
| 16:01.10 | pingufan | my server is running sendmail and needs absolutely no authentification. |
| 16:01.49 | pingufan | I can use a terminal and type in the whole smtp dialog, and then the mail goes out, so this is definitely inside this kmail2 |
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| 16:09.58 | pingufan | Mamarok: I try to directly send mails to the SMTP server, so I chose "SMTP server" and not "sendmail". |
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| 16:13.13 | pingufan | I could smash this crap onto the wall. Can I get kmail 1 back? |
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| 16:14.16 | pinotree | can you please moderate your tones in this channel? thanks. |
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| 16:16.32 | pingufan | You could try to help, then I would be finished since hours. |
| 16:17.24 | pinotree | that isn't an excuse to use poor language here |
| 16:17.57 | pingufan | Working under pressure. This is a production system. |
| 16:18.26 | pinotree | i understand you have issues, but swearing and poor language won't help you |
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| 16:19.51 | Peace- | pinotree: you use debian right? to get the latest kde i have to install testing ? |
| 16:21.40 | pingufan | pinotree: Can you tell me what the problem with sending mails is? |
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| 16:22.13 | pingufan | They stuck in the outbox and don't move. On the mail server I even see no attempt to connect to it. |
| 16:22.15 | pinotree | pingufan: i have no experience with kmail2, sorry |
| 16:22.34 | annma_ | pingufan: ask in #opensuse-kde if you can install kmail1 |
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| 16:23.02 | pinotree | Peace-: a) depends on your meaning of "latest" b) ask in the distro channel please |
| 16:23.08 | pingufan | there are as many activities as in a grave. |
| 16:23.34 | Peace- | pinotree: on debian are not kde friendly xD |
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| 18:00.09 | Socratuss | Hi people |
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| 18:03.29 | Socratuss | Can you help me? I don't know how to enable and use mouse gestures in KDE 4.* |
| 18:03.31 | Socratuss | 4.8 |
| 18:04.08 | Socratuss | I've KDE 4.8 and Khotkeys installed in gentoo |
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| 18:04.55 | Socratuss | Somebody? |
| 18:05.05 | Socratuss | H E L P |
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| 18:06.36 | Socratuss | :( |
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| 18:07.05 | kde_pepo | If you never used them, why are you so impatient? |
| 18:07.33 | Socratuss | I'm using gestures in browsers it's my way. So can I use them in DM? |
| 18:08.31 | kde_pepo | DM? |
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| 18:08.53 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: I ment desktom manager, desktop environment, etc. |
| 18:09.01 | Socratuss | desktop* |
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| 18:09.32 | kde_pepo | in kde gestures are usually mapped to keyboard shortcuts |
| 18:10.12 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: I need to bind gestures to 'windows close', next, previous actions |
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| 18:11.25 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: How can I get them to work on my kde-base 4.8 on gentoo |
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| 18:11.47 | kde_pepo | SystemSettings > Shortcuts & Gestures > Custom Shortcuts |
| 18:12.19 | kde_pepo | You have to create the mappings yourself, there are only some example mappings for Konqueror |
| 18:13.32 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: I'm not using Konqueror anyway. How to create my own mappings? Sorry, cannot find working instructions on the web |
| 18:14.45 | kde_pepo | Edit > New > Mouse Gesture Action |
| 18:14.57 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: Also is it possible to see the trace of gesture? |
| 18:15.34 | kde_pepo | nope, that would require rendering "above" all windows |
| 18:15.55 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: yeah, as in firefox and chromium |
| 18:15.59 | kde_pepo | gestures are input events only |
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| 18:17.53 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: Can you advise what is the "windows close" action? |
| 18:18.05 | kde_pepo | Alt F4? |
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| 18:19.24 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: I don't see any records in Trigger window, is it normal? |
| 18:19.40 | kde_pepo | [19:16] <kde_pepo> gestures are input events only |
| 18:20.46 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: So how to use them? Can I use only mouse gesture to close the window? |
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| 18:21.16 | kde_pepo | Check the Konqueror gestures, I think there are even other examples installed |
| 18:21.53 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: It's very useful to operate windows with mouse only... |
| 18:22.17 | kde_pepo | I know, especially if you only have a stylus, and no keyboard ;) |
| 18:22.44 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: Yeah! |
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| 18:23.06 | Socratuss | I cannot add new gesture |
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| 18:24.23 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: I've changed windows 7 to gentoo and want some new extremely useful features :) |
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| 18:25.15 | kde_pepo | you can also try "EasyStroke" application, it's far better than builtin KDE gestures |
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| 18:26.08 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: So I can unmerge knotkeys? |
| 18:26.18 | Socratuss | khotkeys |
| 18:26.40 | Socratuss | I thought it's needed for gestures |
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| 18:27.01 | kde_pepo | try what you like, anyway, lunch |
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| 18:31.12 | piksi | is there any working dictionary widget for kde 4.7.4? the default dictionary doesn't contain any dictionaries in the list and it's impossible to add any |
| 18:31.27 | piksi | i would be glad if there was one that could use wiktionary + merriam webster |
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| 18:32.32 | Socratuss | piksi: I need good dictionary too.... but still configuring DVB and other features |
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| 18:34.46 | piksi | Socratuss: i'm not a fan of apple but the osx built in dictionary app is a great example of what the kde version could be like |
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| 18:35.44 | Socratuss | piksi: I'm sure that apple dictionary is great, but we can create better in gnu linux, IMHO :) |
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| 18:36.37 | piksi | Socratuss: i'm sure of that :-) |
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| 18:36.49 | graft | evidence to the contrary? |
| 18:36.50 | Socratuss | piksi: Also I think that gentoo has the same or even better functionality as apple on its hardware :) |
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| 18:37.06 | Socratuss | and performance |
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| 18:38.08 | piksi | i like kde, i've been using it since kde3 but there are a lot of annoyances that hinder productivity |
| 18:38.14 | piksi | i'm still very happy to see that things progress fast |
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| 18:40.35 | Socratuss | I used kde3 on fedora few years ago and it was wonderful. But migration to kde 4.0.3 was awful. No I've clean gentoo with kde4.8 and hoping for free of bugs using ) |
| 18:41.12 | piksi | yes, kde was quite horrible from 4.0 to 4.3 |
| 18:41.15 | piksi | after 4.5 i've been quite happy |
| 18:41.28 | piksi | i wish i had the skills and time to contribute |
| 18:41.45 | piksi | now i'm just supporting it financially |
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| 18:49.31 | Socratuss | piksi: good on you. I hope KDE will beat windows some day |
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| 18:52.51 | piksi | Socratuss: same |
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| 19:05.17 | wojtek | can anyone explain me in short one thing with Akonadi? |
| 19:05.34 | wojtek | I have 4.7 (opensuse 12.1) |
| 19:06.08 | wojtek | kjots is supposed to store notes with akonadi, right? |
| 19:06.23 | cb400f | no and yes |
| 19:06.32 | cb400f | the akonadi database is for cache |
| 19:07.04 | wojtek | cb400f so the real data is kept in plain text files/binary files? |
| 19:07.30 | cb400f | yes, the notes are stored in .local/share/notes/ |
| 19:07.37 | cb400f | in maildir format actually |
| 19:07.44 | wojtek | and so Akonadi is a middle-man? |
| 19:07.56 | wojtek | and provide other apps with data? |
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| 19:08.46 | wojtek | cb400f: ok, I opened KDE configuration, go to kde resoures/notes |
| 19:08.49 | cb400f | it does a bunch of things |
| 19:09.14 | cb400f | e.g. agents/resources for notes, imap, pop3, contacts etc. |
| 19:09.24 | wojtek | when I open the folder notes suppose to be, there are no files there |
| 19:09.37 | cb400f | try showing hidden files |
| 19:10.02 | wojtek | cb400f: no files either |
| 19:10.09 | wojtek | but I have notes |
| 19:10.49 | cb400f | did you configure afresh? .. or did you migrate from ooold kjots? |
| 19:11.03 | cb400f | maybe the notes are kept in the old location on a migrated system |
| 19:11.21 | wojtek | wait, the resource points to ~/.kde4/share/apps/knotes/notes.ics |
| 19:11.49 | wojtek | yes, I made migration from old pim |
| 19:11.52 | cb400f | configured from scratch to avoid such messyness |
| 19:13.38 | wojtek | cb400f: I have some files and folders in .local/share/notes like bU8ygt8Oyd, cur, new, sC6E4pb7oM and tmp |
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| 19:13.46 | wojtek | where to look for? |
| 19:14.15 | wojtek | I did not use kjots before migration |
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| 19:15.09 | wojtek | and these folder are empty |
| 19:15.29 | cb400f | I'm having trouble finding my own notes now :-| |
| 19:15.35 | cb400f | I was sure I found them there before |
| 19:16.55 | wojtek | cb400f: let me when you find them |
| 19:17.54 | dyrvere | Ummm |
| 19:18.17 | cb400f | ah, now I remember... .local/share/.notes.directory/ |
| 19:18.17 | cb400f | double hidden |
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| 19:20.33 | dyrvere | I'm having strange issues with KDE 4.8 in Arch Linux 64 bit, xD when I switch setting view from Account to Identity for example in Kmail2 it will switch to a completely different view so pressing Account will show me the Identity settings, what's up? |
| 19:20.49 | cb400f | wojtek: did you find them? .. had some network probs |
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| 19:22.01 | wojtek | cb400f: yes, I see them, but to make a backup can I just copy these? |
| 19:22.37 | cb400f | yeah, should think so.. haven't tried restoring my own backup yet though, but I assume it's no problem |
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| 19:24.58 | wojtek | cb400f: what more question: can I detach kjots from pim? when I try to open it as a stand-alone app, it always opens in kontact |
| 19:25.05 | dyrvere | Probably should mention I'm having appmenu installed, and gpg can't find the config files, how ever that should be the cause? |
| 19:25.42 | cb400f | wojtek: should work standalone.. works for me |
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| 19:25.55 | wojtek | cb400f: there should definitely be one magic button in pim to make a backup :) |
| 19:26.44 | wojtek | cb400f: first it opens in pim, then I get this error: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/kjots'. |
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| 19:30.52 | Socratuss | kde_pepo: No easystroke ebulds available for gentoo. Should I install it manually? |
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| 19:35.17 | dyrvere | Heh, might as well be talking to myself here :p |
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| 19:35.47 | dyrvere | Yes sorry, I can help myself, I was rather busy no problem now. Let's see what I can do for me. |
| 19:36.02 | wojtek | cb400f? |
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| 19:36.31 | cb400f | no idea, works fine standalone for me in 4.7.2 |
| 19:36.50 | cb400f | maybe you have kontact already running in the background or something |
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| 19:39.57 | wojtek | cb400f: yes, kontact is running all the time |
| 19:40.14 | wojtek | cb400f: I had a real mess in akonadi resources, especially with notes |
| 19:40.45 | wojtek | I removed all of them, but how to import them now? |
| 19:41.02 | wojtek | into kjots? |
| 19:42.17 | wojtek | cb400f: I added a akonotes resource, pointed to the folder you talked me about |
| 19:42.37 | wojtek | kjots read the structure (folders) but without the content |
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| 19:43.12 | wojtek | it seems that we have two resources for notes |
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| 19:43.17 | wojtek | AkoNotes and Notes |
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| 19:43.39 | wojtek | the latter loads from a file (one file) |
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| 19:43.53 | wojtek | the file you can choose in kde resources |
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| 19:49.14 | jcook_5xdata | I there a setting to make the alt+F2 or command window to look better. like a skin or something. I do not see a way to change the look. |
| 19:50.00 | jcook_5xdata | more like a gnomedo or something |
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| 19:52.31 | cb400f | the look is determined by the plasma theme |
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| 19:55.21 | wojtek | cb400f: can you answer my question? |
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| 20:00.27 | piksi | i'd rather want the command window to function better than just look better |
| 20:00.57 | piksi | the new idea promoted by ubuntu devs seems promising (the cli-like command window) |
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| 20:24.05 | jcook_5xdata | I know it function find, but I have a 25 px square box box when it comes up just like a little flash :) |
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| 21:09.08 | findow | Hello everyone |
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| 21:10.44 | findow | Is here anyone who can help me with selecting project for GSOC ? |
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| 21:18.41 | rxt0_ | hi there, how (or where) can I configure KDE globally? (same default settings for all users) |
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| 21:21.02 | tosky | rxt0_: maybe this can help: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/KDE_Filesystem_Hierarchy |
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| 21:23.50 | ponto | How can i convince kmail to fetch mails again? |
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| 21:26.46 | chomwitt | hi. what could cause emails to appear in kmail with chinese characters in the subject field? |
| 21:27.38 | ponto | chomwitt: spam from china? |
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| 21:28.56 | chomwitt | ponto: when i open them the email is ok |
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| 22:43.58 | handheldCar | anybody know how much swap is needed to hibernate? |
| 22:44.03 | handheldCar | 1gb apparently is still not enough |
| 22:44.21 | handheldCar | thinking about 2 if I reinstall |
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| 22:49.25 | thiago | handheldCar: not a KDE question. The answer varies a lot. It's less than the RAM. |
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| 23:08.52 | handheldCar | thiago: ok thanks |
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