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00:30.04 | sreich | you probably have it somewhere on your system |
00:30.08 | sreich | or download it from source |
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00:32.30 | omido | sreich: how? can you please give me the link? i like to use it as sms tone |
00:32.35 | sreich | omido: /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Sys-Special.ogg |
00:32.38 | sreich | for example |
00:32.41 | sreich | should be on your system |
00:33.05 | sreich | at first I had my hopes up, hoping you'd come up with a neat new sound theme ;) |
00:33.12 | sreich | we could use it imho |
00:33.33 | omido | i already use kde3 startup sound as my sms tone |
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00:37.33 | omido | sreich: thnx i find it |
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01:57.34 | tweakism | I'm using kmail2. I'm using IMAP accounts in disconnected mode. It's started to hang (for 30sec-1min) on clicking on folders, checking mail, etc. I want to do the index rebuild suggested at http://userbase.kde.org/KMail/FAQs_Hints_and_Tips#Troubleshooting , but those instructions seem out-of-date. |
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02:08.42 | tweakism | heh, nm, logging out and back in fixed it... I thought I tried that :) |
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02:22.26 | rdieter | tweakism: you could probably get away with quitting kmail, and akonadictl restart, instead of a full logout. |
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02:25.53 | tweakism | k. |
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02:38.28 | edt_ | teakism kmail2 is generally a pita. I am ___really___ hoping its been improved in 4.8. I use maildirs here. It sort of works for small ones (less than 30000 messages) but often has duplicate message problems. I am not very happen with kmail2 - it still needs lots of love. |
02:39.04 | tweakism | edt_: I had issues w/ it on Fedora 14, but the version in Fedora 16 seems to be significantly less buggy. |
02:39.26 | tweakism | I don't know how many of the issues were in upstream vs. how many were in Fedora's packaging. |
02:39.53 | edt_ | I'm on arch with 4.7.4 and its still quite buggy |
02:40.35 | edt_ | I've been told that 4.8 should be better - there was a bug fix push but most of the fixes are in the 4.8 tree... |
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02:41.40 | tweakism | Looks like I'm on 4.7.4 / "4.7.4 reloaded (aka 4.7.5)" |
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03:07.37 | tweakism | hrm... kwin is using quite a bit of CPU w/ desktop effects enabled... didn't used to, although my GPU *is* underpowered. |
03:09.40 | tweakism | not like 90% or 100% or anything, just like 10-30% |
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03:19.14 | sreich | depends on how good your drivers are though |
03:19.21 | sreich | what the rendering mode is, etc. |
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04:44.38 | crocket | Does KDE have an email notifier that supports IMAP IDLE? |
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04:50.42 | notinachos | crocket: according to wikipedia, kmail supports imap idle in recent versions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE |
04:51.24 | crocket | notinachos, But kmail is a big application, I don't want to have it run all the time. |
04:51.36 | crocket | I need a small applet or a tray icon that does notify me. |
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05:19.54 | crocket | Does KDE have an email notifier plasmoid? |
05:20.03 | crocket | One that supports IMAP IDLE. |
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05:59.37 | shevy | A question, in KDE Konsole, hyperlink text works on a mouse-hover effect. Is it possible to somehow use a custom menu when pressing the right mouse over a hyperlink in the KDE konsole? |
06:01.32 | Sho_ | no |
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06:02.58 | shevy | hmm ok |
06:04.05 | Sho_ | you can select it and use klipper actions |
06:04.25 | Sho_ | or hack the konsole source |
06:05.49 | shevy | hmm what are klipper actions? I dont think I have used klipper before |
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06:13.49 | Sho_ | shevy: popup menu with actions on text selection |
06:14.08 | shevy | ah nice. going to google, thanks Sho_ |
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06:49.48 | Leoneof | Khello everyone :) |
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07:25.32 | ggggg2 | CMake Error: The following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND. |
07:25.45 | ggggg2 | hi, does anybody have a clue what that means? |
07:26.11 | ggggg2 | used as include directory in directory /blah/blah//clementine-0.7.1/3rdparty/libprojectm |
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11:12.15 | L-----D | is Plasma Media Center project still active? |
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11:13.33 | annma | L-----D: not sure |
11:13.35 | annma | why? |
11:14.20 | L-----D | just insterested |
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11:26.21 | Leoneof | hello, i click on 'eject' icon to unmount usb drive, but the light in usb drive is still ON, any idea? |
11:27.41 | cb400f | run 'mount' and see if it's still mounted? |
11:28.03 | cb400f | are the files still accessible in /media/ ? |
11:28.25 | Leoneof | nope |
11:28.25 | cb400f | maybe the light doesn't indicate mounted.. but simply connected/power on |
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11:28.51 | cb400f | so there's no problem.. the device was unmounted |
11:28.52 | Leoneof | gnome can turn the light to OFF when i do unmount |
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11:29.23 | Leoneof | i mean "eject" button, not umount in terminal |
11:29.54 | Leoneof | even it is still spin O__O |
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11:34.33 | Leoneof | like this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/safely-remove-usb-external-hard-drive-703326/ |
11:37.30 | Leoneof | :[ |
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11:38.23 | cb400f | your experiences with gnome and kde are on the same installation? |
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11:43.40 | altin | can anyone tell me why my clock is showing up like this :S ? http://i.imgur.com/b27pB.png |
11:43.48 | altin | I mean I can see pixels its not straight line |
11:44.19 | cb400f | did you try a different plasma theme? |
11:44.37 | cb400f | smells like a plasma theme issue |
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11:48.21 | altin | cb400f: yes |
11:48.23 | altin | I tried |
11:48.31 | altin | I changed the clock to default theme |
11:48.39 | altin | and again its the same |
11:50.10 | cb400f | I suppose you're running 4.9 pre-alpha? |
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11:50.46 | cb400f | altin: oops.. sorry.. I confused you with another guy called "alin" :-) |
11:51.06 | altin | np :) |
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11:52.57 | cb400f | then I'd move my attention to gfxdrivers and whether or not you're using the correct resolution for your monitor |
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11:53.33 | cb400f | and try if resizing the clock makes a diff |
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12:20.00 | gdebure | What could be the reason for "Socket expired" in rekonq / konqueror or some websites ? |
12:20.16 | gdebure | chromium and firefox do not have these errors |
12:20.30 | gdebure | KDE SC 4.7.97 on archlinux |
12:20.48 | gdebure | * on some websites |
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13:18.11 | aikie | Hi all, I've recently update to opensuse12.1 and started off with a new KDE profile, but I want to restore some application configuration from a backup |
13:18.46 | aikie | I've tried copy, pasting stuff from .kde/share/apps/k... to the new profile but that doesn't seem to work |
13:18.56 | aikie | am I missing something? |
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13:25.54 | annma | are you sure your user config is in .kde? |
13:27.07 | pinotree | he's gone |
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13:31.59 | annma | ah yes |
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13:32.04 | annma | ;) |
13:32.12 | Peace- | annma: distro ? |
13:32.24 | annma | he said OpenSuse |
13:32.29 | annma | 12.1 |
13:32.30 | Peace- | annma: yours :) |
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13:32.42 | annma | I use my own KDEHOME and my own build |
13:32.55 | annma | had trouble NOT having OpenSuse stuff interfering in fact |
13:33.02 | Peace- | annma: can you help me with my problem |
13:33.08 | Peace- | damn i have to go |
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13:37.12 | BluesKaj | Howdy all |
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13:46.34 | kornerr | hi |
13:46.46 | kornerr | are here any dolphin developers or should I post to mailing list? |
13:51.38 | annma | what's the question? |
13:51.55 | kornerr | I wanna ask about .directory files, how dolphin treats them |
13:52.16 | kornerr | because the app I code use it too, and I've been said that Dolphin issues a warning of some kind |
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13:57.51 | annma | did you look at the code already? |
13:58.19 | annma | the devel is not usually on IRC as far as I know |
13:58.34 | annma | th ebest would be to mail him, yo ufind his email in the code files |
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13:59.41 | kornerr | annma: thanks, but I don't really know where to look. |
13:59.48 | kornerr | I'll try to search for it |
14:00.27 | annma | mail this guy Peter Penz <peter.penz@gmx.at> |
14:00.36 | annma | main dolphin devels |
14:00.55 | annma | code of dolphin is in kdebase-apps/dolphin |
14:01.10 | kornerr | thanks! |
14:02.14 | annma | you're welcome |
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14:02.25 | kornerr | now only to find where the source lives |
14:03.18 | kornerr | ok. almost there |
14:03.29 | kornerr | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde |
14:04.06 | kornerr | hm. no dolphin there |
14:04.30 | annma | kdebase-apps kornerr |
14:04.34 | annma | code of dolphin is in kdebase-apps/dolphin |
14:04.37 | annma | ^^ |
14:04.49 | kornerr | I mean in the above link there's no dolphin in kde base apps |
14:04.53 | annma | kornerr: I can grep in my sources but what to grep for? |
14:05.16 | annma | what's a .directory file supposed to do? /me is ignorant here |
14:05.26 | annma | does it keep some version? |
14:05.35 | kornerr | wel... |
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14:05.44 | kornerr | good question. |
14:05.56 | kornerr | can you show me the link for sources? |
14:08.20 | annma | wait my internet is slow |
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14:08.26 | kornerr | may be it's actually external not in base apps... |
14:08.30 | kornerr | oh |
14:08.35 | kornerr | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-baseapps/repository |
14:08.36 | kornerr | found it |
14:08.39 | annma | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-baseapps/repository/revisions/master/show/dolphin |
14:08.46 | annma | yes |
14:08.48 | kornerr | yeah. damn. that was hard to find |
14:08.52 | annma | yes |
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14:15.33 | annma | a .directory file has a timestamp, a version and some directory settings |
14:15.39 | annma | as far as I can see |
14:16.27 | annma | in dolphin if you set a dir to "show hidden files" the setting is kept in the .directory file |
14:18.51 | kornerr | ok |
14:18.52 | kornerr | thanks |
14:18.54 | kornerr | I sent the mail |
14:19.01 | kornerr | I hope we'll come to a conclusion :) |
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15:31.00 | Bugson | guys ctrl shift v not working in my yakuake, it enters only break lines instead of lines, any ideas? |
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15:40.23 | Bugson | hmmm nvm |
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15:42.04 | PelleTut | when I resize a konsole window a little box with its new size is displayed. Is it possible to disable the showing of this? |
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15:45.20 | khindenburg_ | PelleTut: yes |
15:46.26 | PelleTut | khindenburg_: how? |
15:46.31 | khindenburg_ | PelleTut: General tab - Show hint for window resizing |
15:47.51 | PelleTut | khindenburg_: hmm, I can't seem to find that... using 2.7.4. |
15:48.06 | khindenburg_ | configure profile - 1st tab - at bottom? |
15:48.57 | khindenburg_ | I'm running 4.8 now - I thought it was in 4.7.x |
15:49.10 | Torch | khindenburg_: i don't have it either in 4.7.4 |
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15:50.27 | PelleTut | mkay, guess I'll just wait for 4.8 then |
15:50.32 | khindenburg_ | yea sorry about that... only in 4.8 |
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16:14.39 | PelleTut | when opening the open dialog I want the focus to be on the folders and files rather than the "Name" textbox. Is that possible? Or a shortcut to focus it |
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16:16.45 | cb400f | X number of presses on tab key |
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16:20.23 | Leoneof | xhost+ is required to run gui application from terminal, why? |
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16:20.45 | PelleTut | cb400f: yes, but having to press (shift+)tab key x number of times is really slow and painful... |
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16:23.09 | Leoneof | :[ |
16:24.54 | cb400f | talk to your distro |
16:25.02 | cb400f | is the problem specific to kde apps? |
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16:26.32 | Leoneof | ok |
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16:34.04 | Peace- | cb400f: can you help me with kde folder structure? |
16:34.24 | cb400f | depends what your question is |
16:34.28 | Peace- | cb400f: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=98622 |
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16:35.13 | Peace- | cb400f: i have created a folder /usr/share/kde-peace-settings/shar/config |
16:35.25 | Peace- | but when i start kde this folders is not read |
16:36.00 | cb400f | hm? .. are you trying to make a system wide config or a user specific config? |
16:36.11 | Peace- | when i do echo $KDEDIRS i get /usr/share/kde-peace-settings/: |
16:36.16 | Peace- | cb400f: system wide |
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16:36.40 | cb400f | is "shar" a mistake.. or is that what you actually have? |
16:36.47 | cb400f | should be "share" no? |
16:37.03 | pinotree | note KDEDIRS mut have /usr too, as last element |
16:37.06 | pinotree | *must |
16:37.27 | Peace- | cb400f: mistake on chat |
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16:37.49 | Peace- | pinotree: cb400f can you see here ? http://code.google.com/p/plasma-panels-script/source/browse/#svn%2FTestingkubuntu%2Fetc%2FX11%2FXsession.d |
16:38.03 | Peace- | i can't get where is the mistake |
16:38.18 | pinotree | there's no KDEDIRS set by default |
16:38.36 | Peace- | pinotree: i know so i did this http://code.google.com/p/plasma-panels-script/source/browse/#svn%2FTestingkubuntu%2Fetc%2FX11%2FXsession.d |
16:38.46 | pinotree | ... |
16:39.03 | Peace- | pinotree: :S ???? |
16:39.15 | pinotree | <pinotree> note KDEDIRS mut have /usr too, as last element |
16:39.30 | Peace- | wth |
16:39.43 | Peace- | pinotree: :) understood now |
16:39.44 | pinotree | you should get /usr/share/kde-peace-settings:/usr as KDEDIRS output, as the global installation is in /usr |
16:40.29 | Peace- | pinotree: thanks pino |
16:41.05 | pinotree | (but that most probably won't fix your issue, just make the KDEDIRS var more correct) |
16:41.19 | Peace- | ;( |
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16:43.34 | Peace- | another thing |
16:43.42 | Peace- | on dolphin i want the up button by default |
16:43.44 | Peace- | so... |
16:43.49 | Peace- | i have edited a file |
16:44.13 | Peace- | <PROTECTED> |
16:44.22 | Peace- | and it works |
16:44.55 | Peace- | but if i put it on the /usr/share/kde-peace.-settings/share/apps/dolphin folder |
16:44.58 | Peace- | it doesn't work |
16:45.11 | Peace- | i mean dolphin doesn't show the up button by default |
16:45.15 | Peace- | is that correct? |
16:45.40 | Peace- | or i have to recompile dolphin to get the freakin up button by default :D |
16:45.57 | Peace- | i hate this stuff really |
16:47.37 | Peace- | ... ok i will reboot this guy maybe could works |
16:47.44 | Peace- | work |
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16:55.00 | peace_ | nah |
16:55.05 | peace_ | doesn't work |
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16:58.18 | peace_ | pinotree: did not worked |
16:58.22 | peace_ | :( |
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17:10.07 | doda_ | hi folks |
17:11.02 | doda_ | anyone has an idea about ktorrent and magnet files, i can't load them trough the web interface wich sucks |
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18:05.53 | redeeman | hello |
18:06.37 | redeeman | how come bluedevil doesnt show up in solid, whereas kbluetooth did? |
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18:51.49 | systemclient | I created a new .desktop in /usr/share/applications. How can I get KDE to include it into the kickoff menu? |
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18:54.44 | rdieter | systemclient: if it includes correct Categories= entry, it'll show up |
18:54.54 | systemclient | just like that? |
18:54.57 | rdieter | yup |
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18:55.20 | systemclient | no logout and -in needed? |
18:55.34 | rdieter | well, kickoff *sometimes* has caching issues, maybe. |
18:55.49 | rdieter | systemclient: you can test with: kbuildsycoca4 --menutest | grep "myapp.desktop" |
18:56.24 | systemclient | rdieter: is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon) -- okay |
18:56.40 | rdieter | systemclient: bonus pionts if you run, desktop-file-validate /path/to/myapp.desktop |
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18:58.10 | systemclient | rdieter: I added the ;, rand run kbuild…4 again, didn't say anything about my app now |
18:58.38 | rdieter | systemclient: --menutest didn't show it anywhere, what Categories did you give it? |
18:58.44 | systemclient | Graphics; |
18:58.50 | rdieter | that's not enough (I think) |
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18:59.08 | systemclient | Graphics;Viewer; ? |
18:59.16 | rdieter | desktop-file-validate should've told you need both a primary and a secondary category, yeah |
18:59.29 | systemclient | rdieter: that did not say anything … |
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18:59.50 | rdieter | ok, maybe only newer versions of desktop-file-utils includes that warning |
19:00.29 | systemclient | hmm, does not show up … |
19:00.41 | rdieter | systemclient: see http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html#category-registry |
19:01.15 | rdieter | systemclient: not showing in kickoff or kbuildsycoca4 --menutest ? |
19:01.29 | rdieter | if neither, mind posting your .desktop file ? |
19:01.49 | systemclient | rdieter: I'll post it. it is installed with 755, that might be bad, I'll fix the make install |
19:01.59 | rdieter | systemclient: 755 is ok |
19:02.36 | rdieter | (as a matter of fact, kde prefers .desktop files to be marked executable, esp if they're outside the usual xdg-data-dirs paths) |
19:03.08 | systemclient | rdieter: http://paste.kde.org/187088 |
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19:05.27 | rdieter | systemclient: putting that @ /usr/share/applications/multiimage.desktop works for me |
19:05.41 | rdieter | kbuildsycoca4 --menutest | grep multi => Graphics/More Applications/ multiimage.desktop /usr/share/applications/multiimage.desktop |
19:06.19 | systemclient | rdieter: that is strange … it is at the exact same spot on my stem |
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19:06.46 | systemclient | rdieter: the search does not give me anything either … |
19:06.50 | rdieter | systemclient: some distros modify the menu structure used in kde (and elsewhere), I'm using kde default, if that matters |
19:07.14 | rdieter | it shows up in kickoff for me too (I'm currently using kde 4.8rc1 on fedora 16) |
19:07.28 | peace_ | rdieter: rc2? |
19:07.29 | systemclient | rdieter: I use Kubuntu, 4.7.3 |
19:07.42 | rdieter | peace_: maybe :) 4.7.97 |
19:08.03 | peace_ | i am on kubuntu 12.04 kde 4.8rc2 |
19:08.10 | systemclient | peace_: alpha, beta? |
19:08.20 | peace_ | alpha i guess |
19:08.29 | systemclient | so what could I do for this desktop file? |
19:08.35 | systemclient | start a new session? |
19:08.50 | oopepe | Hi, i used to automatically start a new session with "kdmctl login :0 now username pwd". It was working fine. For some weeks now this command does not work anymore, its returning "nosys unknown command". What could be the problem? |
19:09.25 | rdieter | systemclient: look in /usr/share/applications/ or /usr/share/applications/kde4 for a similar app, and compare the Categories they use |
19:09.49 | rdieter | systemclient: if you match it, and yours still doesn't show, it's not your fault. |
19:09.52 | peace_ | systemclient: usr/share/applications/styff.desktop |
19:10.31 | peace_ | systemclient: just download a kde application.deb |
19:10.35 | peace_ | systemclient: open with ark |
19:10.51 | peace_ | <PROTECTED> |
19:10.57 | systemclient | Inkscape hast Graphics;VectorGraphics;GTK for instance |
19:11.22 | systemclient | okular uses Categories=Qt;KDE;Graphics;Office;Viewer; |
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19:12.00 | rdieter | systemclient: try adding all those, see if it helps any. :) |
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19:13.08 | systemclient | would it be a problem if the icon is missing or so? |
19:13.38 | systemclient | more categories do not help |
19:13.46 | peace_ | systemclient: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/png-0-plasma-desktopbs1692 |
19:14.02 | peace_ | systemclient: just download amarok debian package |
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19:14.08 | peace_ | systemclient: or krita.deb |
19:14.17 | peace_ | systemclient: and use the desktop file |
19:14.20 | systemclient | peace_: I got lots of .desktop on my system |
19:14.49 | rdieter | systemclient: icon is not required (but is nice to have) |
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19:15.49 | systemclient | I based the file off another program I made, and that works well … |
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19:17.16 | systemclient | the other program is in the same folder, and it is picked up … |
19:18.20 | systemclient | other program does not have a ; in the end, no problem. but it complains about the missing ; in the new program … |
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19:21.21 | systemclient | what format should be icon be in? |
19:21.24 | systemclient | 128x128 png? |
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19:22.10 | peace_ | you need to do 32 64 128 256 |
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19:22.36 | peace_ | or ... user will not able to see it if he changes icons size |
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19:22.45 | peace_ | systemclient: look at oxygen theme then... |
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19:23.03 | systemclient | okay, I'll look into the icons then |
19:23.10 | systemclient | could logging out and in help with this? |
19:25.15 | rdieter | systemclient: can't hurt |
19:25.20 | systemclient | rdieter: brb |
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19:27.12 | systemclient | nope, did not work yet |
19:27.50 | systemclient | I am going to try this on my gnome machine now |
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19:32.39 | systemclient | it was picked right up in Unity … |
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20:40.39 | rdieter | czx: here is probably the best place, just ask your questions or describe your problem. if someone knows, they'll answer |
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21:19.57 | yecril71pl | What is the selector at the bottom of a KSystemLog window for? |
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21:42.01 | yecril71pl | Konqueror does not have the command "Show Terminal" |
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21:52.33 | jacktheripper | GCI mentors, http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2011/7127224 can one of you accept my claim ? |
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22:01.26 | sreich | jacktheripper: #kde-devel i believe |
22:01.53 | pinotree | #kde-soc |
22:02.07 | jacktheripper | oh sorries |
22:02.11 | sreich | yeah, pinotree is more right |
22:03.31 | Leoneof | dolphin can't mount partition :[ |
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22:41.29 | Leoneof | i did unmount usb hard drive, but is still spinning, any help? |
22:42.16 | yecril71pl | Your hard drive is not a KDE thing. |
22:43.14 | Leoneof | oh well, gnome is doing real unmount safely, but KDE not? |
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22:43.30 | sreich | kde is doing it safely |
22:43.36 | sreich | an unmoutn does *not* imply spinning down a disk |
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22:43.43 | sreich | if gnome does that, then they are stupid for doing that |
22:44.00 | sreich | power cycling hdd's are the #2 death reason, right next to tempterature |
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22:44.43 | sreich | if you want to put your disk into standby, just do hdparm -Y |
22:44.58 | sreich | it is not kde's, or any other DE's/platform's choice to do this |
22:45.04 | sreich | (hence hdparm) |
22:45.30 | Leoneof | ok, thanks for the info :) |
22:46.51 | sreich | unmount simply means "stop stuff from using (reading/writing) to it, but the disk spinning down is the discretion of PM rules, or the hdd's firmware" |
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23:05.19 | shevy | hey guys. kdelibs recommends some libraries. one URL is http://oscaf.sourceforge.net/ |
23:05.28 | shevy | can someone tell me where I ... uhm ... download that thing from that page? |
23:05.49 | shevy | oops found it |
23:05.57 | shevy | under the /files subsection |
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23:24.38 | tweakism | grr, kmail2 is now ignoring my new message template, and coming up blank instead... all I can think that I changed was turning on sign-by-default, but turning that off doesn't help. |
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23:31.57 | tweakism | I guess it's this bug https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280243 |
23:32.00 | tweakism | no help there, though. |
23:39.44 | tweakism | Aha, here's the difference: If I run kmail, select new message, I get my template. If I run kontact instead, select new message, I get blank document i.e. no template. |
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23:52.27 | tweakism | adds a note to the bug. |
23:54.36 | yottabit | adds a bug to tweakism's note |