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| 00:15.57 | Deathspawn | anyone know how to fix this: http://i.minus.com/jby429Kp9op6oi.png KDE 4.7.4. I've tried going to font settings, everything is on 10. Anything new that I open up gets minified text... things that were already open look perfectly fine. |
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| 00:17.07 | Deathspawn | oh and Arch Linux |
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| 00:28.42 | Deathspawn | nevermind... reboot fixed it... wasn't expecting that heh... |
| 00:28.54 | Deathspawn | thought id reboot and end up with everything else mini |
| 00:29.14 | TomFyuri | kde has somekind of automute feature while using both amarok and skype at the same time? |
| 00:30.15 | Deathspawn | that sounds like it is an amarok problem... i don't use amarok, but ive used Skype and Clementine and never had an auto mute. |
| 00:30.40 | TomFyuri | as soon as smbd calls on skype, amarok goes auto mute |
| 00:31.23 | TomFyuri | amarok --debug don't show anything at all on skype call event |
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| 00:35.09 | TomFyuri | I really wonder how to disable automate.. hm |
| 00:36.00 | Deathspawn | TomFyuri: try asking in #amarok? |
| 00:36.17 | TomFyuri | Deathspawn: good idea. |
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| 00:53.07 | TomFyuri | Deathspawn: I believe skype does it, with the help of kde. |
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| 00:59.34 | TomFyuri | Deathspawn: Yup, skype does it. xD |
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| 01:13.36 | Deathspawn | TomFyuri: how? |
| 01:14.31 | TomFyuri | Deathspawn: I googled and stumbled on opensuse forum, guys asked how to make skype communicate (automute) with other players, not just amarok. I'm not sure though how skype does it. |
| 01:15.14 | TomFyuri | Deathspawn: Also obviously running skype with different user, restricts skype from modifying amarok volume. |
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| 01:30.33 | Deathspawn | TomFyuri: never had it happen with Clementine or Deadbeef |
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| 01:35.59 | ngativ | jus great! anybody knows how to build strigi without boost libraries? |
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| 02:07.25 | merlin1991 | after reading the topic I wanted to carry this question over to #kde-chat but that chan is about empty, which distro should I pick if I want a reasonable new kde, but not have the continous crashes I experience on kubuntu? |
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| 03:09.30 | atomicfusion | is there a way to disable the password prompt when applications, such as muon, want to gain privilages? |
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| 03:50.58 | Free_Bullets | has anyone encountered a problem where dolphin stops remembering window size? |
| 03:51.13 | ngativ | i just learned that kde depends on gnome.. booooo |
| 03:51.35 | Free_Bullets | it doesn't remember column widths either, but I don't think it ever did that, so it might be a "feature" |
| 03:52.01 | Free_Bullets | ngativ, what dependency do you speak of? |
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| 03:53.40 | ngativ | kde needs shared-mime-info for file types, which depends on intltool wichs depends on gnome-commons... |
| 03:54.19 | ngativ | thumbs down to that |
| 03:54.30 | Free_Bullets | ngativ, it doesn't for me. It's probably a problem with your distro. |
| 03:54.40 | Free_Bullets | What are you using? |
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| 03:55.38 | ngativ | i am compiling kdelibs from scratch with only hard dependencies |
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| 04:38.14 | ngativ | kdelibs need even more modularity so kde apps can be ported to other platforms seamlessly |
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| 08:17.13 | Guest16886 | How to install kst using Cmake ? |
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| 08:33.18 | OldMonk | is there a kde front-end for aptitude? |
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| 08:34.50 | OldMonk | or an equivalent package manager for debian/ubuntu? |
| 08:37.01 | johnz | Hi all, i would like to start a new konsole with 3 tabs, each with a different environment loaded. i have a script that sets the environment correctly. but i have problems using 'konsole --new-tab'. I have a script that calls 'konsole --new-tab --caption foo -e "bash -c 'varsScript; bash'" Problems with that are that 1) I do not get a new konsole, it adds tabs to the current, and 2) the... |
| 08:37.03 | johnz | ...environment vars are the same in all tabs. Does anybody know how to improve that? |
| 08:37.37 | johnz | And if I leave out the |
| 08:37.52 | johnz | "; bash" at the end of the execute command, then the window disappears immediately |
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| 08:47.46 | rly | (the name of the binary, because I want to change my language settings for a KDE Application) |
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| 09:00.04 | johnz | @rly: do you mean /usr/bin/systemsettings? |
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| 09:03.02 | johnz | @rly: do a 'ps -ef > runningFiles-1' before and after starting your application and then investigate the differences .. ;) |
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| 09:04.19 | rly | johnz: systemsettings doesn't start with a k. K khought ktat kde kapplication ktarted kith ka k. |
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| 09:05.43 | rly | johnz: yes, I meant systemsettings. |
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| 10:06.45 | os | hi |
| 10:07.06 | os | how to change gtk+ apperance in kde? |
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| 10:54.03 | aljosa | is it ok to have nepomuk store size ~2GB (still growing)? also, strigi is indexing files for couple of days now. |
| 10:54.18 | aljosa | i do have ~180GB of various data, how long should it take to index it? |
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| 12:55.24 | trerq | hi all |
| 12:55.49 | trerq | i wont to try KDE 4.8b |
| 12:56.25 | trerq | i on kubuntu 11.10 |
| 12:56.47 | trerq | PPA? |
| 12:57.07 | pinotree | trerq: ask in #kubuntu |
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| 13:24.46 | Peace- | hi there , where are mime information stored ? i mean the default application that should open for example video and audio? |
| 13:25.06 | Peace- | there was a guy that have linked to me on a file but i lost the name |
| 13:25.07 | Peace- | :( |
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| 13:26.33 | class40 | hallo |
| 13:26.51 | class40 | <class36> hallo |
| 13:28.03 | class40 | ./animiertesgif |
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| 13:54.07 | icwiener | Peace-: .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list maybe? |
| 13:54.17 | Peace- | that is for user |
| 13:54.43 | Peace- | i would like edit for each user so system wide |
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| 13:58.43 | icwiener | Hmm, now he left. :( |
| 13:59.21 | icwiener | He might have meant /etc/mime.types, in case he returns ... |
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| 14:15.31 | Peace- | aseigo: do you know something about this funny bug http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktoppc1549 |
| 14:15.50 | Peace- | aseigo: is my screen on login xD with the panel in the middle lol |
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| 14:31.10 | rindolf | Peace-: very strange bug. |
| 14:31.20 | rindolf | Peace-: can you reproduce it every time? |
| 14:31.31 | rindolf | Peace-: can you reproduce it in a new UNIX user account? |
| 14:32.51 | aseigo | Peace-: and it fixes itself if you open the panel controller by clicking on the button at the right side? |
| 14:33.06 | Peace- | rindolf: yes :D |
| 14:33.29 | Peace- | aseigo: well i can move the panel back in its position |
| 14:34.23 | aseigo | Peace-: i've seen this once before where the person had run a game with a low resolution and it did something to the x env so that on start up the panel thought the screen was a different resolution than it really was |
| 14:35.30 | thijs_ | @Peace: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288388 |
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| 14:36.18 | Peace- | i have seen this bug even before |
| 14:36.40 | Peace- | but it seems ti occurs expecially when i kill kde session |
| 14:37.01 | Peace- | for somereasons like , i have no time and close pc with the startbutton xD |
| 14:37.11 | aseigo | when you kill the session? |
| 14:37.34 | Peace- | closing the computer removin voltage? |
| 14:37.35 | Peace- | xD |
| 14:37.52 | aseigo | i've seen that with kwin compositing when plasma-desktop is killed .. but that's just a painting artifact ... on log in is something different than that ... |
| 14:37.54 | Peace- | or closing pc keeping the start button ? |
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| 14:38.45 | Peace- | aseigo: this is funny but the most of times i have the same bug but the panell is 1cm from top |
| 14:38.58 | aseigo | my bet is on plasma getting incorrect screen resolution information at start up |
| 14:38.59 | Peace- | anyway nothing of bad |
| 14:39.27 | aseigo | Peace-: would be nice to see what debug output there is that starts with PanelView ... e.g. in ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 14:39.46 | Peace- | aseigo: if imaximize the windoww i see like plasma thinks the panel is on top |
| 14:40.06 | Peace- | but instaed is down xD |
| 14:40.17 | Peace- | aseigo: you wanna see that file? |
| 14:40.21 | Peace- | now i mean ? |
| 14:40.34 | aseigo | yes, it seems that between when the setGeometry call on the panel is made and then later the reserve struts code is called things sort themselves out |
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| 14:40.52 | aseigo | Peace-: and if you kquitapp plasma-desktop from a konsole and start it again, it starts correctly right? |
| 14:41.52 | Peace- | aseigo: this is the file http://paste.ubuntu.com/767941 |
| 14:42.16 | Peace- | aseigo: i have not tested kquitapp but i will rebooting next time |
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| 14:56.08 | Peace- | aseigo: i have seen this bug on intel video card and now on the ati , i have to say i have run a game before , but if i don't remember bad even before on the intel without game i get this funny bug well not in the middle of my screen but 1 cm below from top |
| 14:56.20 | Peace- | i will test more the next time i reboot |
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| 15:16.50 | watermind | I really don't understand how you're supposed to configure panels, in particular the task manager |
| 15:16.56 | watermind | so I created a default panel |
| 15:17.03 | watermind | in this panel there is a task manager |
| 15:17.17 | watermind | in this task manager there are two launchers, one for dolphin and one for firefox |
| 15:17.26 | watermind | how do you add more launchers for other apps? |
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| 15:24.57 | Peace- | watermind: i have written about that |
| 15:25.39 | Peace- | watermind: i did some kind of gnome2 panels with the javascript http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/04/17/kde-configure-panels-in-gnome-way-configure-kde-desktop-for-each-user/ |
| 15:26.00 | Peace- | mm maybe it's not what you need :S |
| 15:26.03 | Peace- | anyway |
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| 15:36.57 | icwiener | Peace-: Regarding your earlier question: /etc/mime.types ? |
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| 15:37.39 | Peace- | icwiener: you were ? xd i guess yes |
| 15:38.14 | Peace- | but unluckly i have remembered bad it contains only the mime types and not the default application that should open files |
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| 15:38.31 | Peace- | icwiener: anyway thank you |
| 15:38.33 | Peace- | :D |
| 15:38.42 | icwiener | Hmm, ok. Right. No idea then. |
| 15:39.00 | Peace- | :) |
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| 15:53.17 | watermind | Peace-: so you mean there is no way to add launchers to the task manager, except for editing the config files? |
| 15:53.51 | Peace- | watermind: no no there is |
| 15:53.55 | Peace- | i guess |
| 15:54.10 | watermind | Peace-: because I cannot find a way to add launchers to the task manager |
| 15:54.12 | Peace- | task manager? |
| 15:54.26 | watermind | so the default panel comes with a task manager |
| 15:54.30 | Peace- | task manager contains only the applicaton that are running |
| 15:54.39 | Peace- | i guess |
| 15:54.50 | watermind | that is what I thought |
| 15:55.23 | watermind | but in the default panel the two launchers included there seem to be *in* the task manager |
| 15:56.01 | watermind | I say this because for instance, if you right click the launchers you can access the task manager settings |
| 15:56.33 | Peace- | watermind: i can't understand well if you go on the menu and select an application |
| 15:56.41 | Peace- | watermind: rigth button , add to panel |
| 15:56.51 | Peace- | watermind: i have this panel http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktoplz1549 |
| 15:58.03 | watermind | Peace-: let me show you a screenshot |
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| 16:02.55 | Achillion | Where should I look for error messages from the plasma workspace? |
| 16:03.06 | Achillion | (i.e., log file) |
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| 16:04.07 | thiago | ~/.xsession-errors |
| 16:04.07 | apt | i heard /.xsession-errors is quite common |
| 16:04.47 | Achillion | thiago: Thanks! |
| 16:05.10 | watermind | Peace-: http://imgur.com/a/HCbqZ/ |
| 16:05.33 | watermind | the screenshoot shows a panel on the left |
| 16:05.35 | Peace- | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:05.47 | watermind | oh I did not know |
| 16:05.59 | watermind | does that link work though? |
| 16:06.04 | Peace- | watermind: that is icon task? |
| 16:06.13 | Peace- | watermind: yes it works |
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| 16:06.17 | watermind | Peace-: What you see there is the default panel, but moved to the left |
| 16:06.31 | watermind | Peace-: when you put it on the left it looks like that, icons only |
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| 16:07.02 | watermind | Peace-: now here is the confusing bit, the 1st two icons are launchers, they are always there, the other two icons are apps in the systray |
| 16:07.21 | watermind | Peace-: as you can see in the 2nd image dolphin changed place |
| 16:07.54 | Peace- | watermind: what widget is that ? icon only no? |
| 16:08.03 | watermind | Peace-: it changed place because I used the launcher to run dolphin, and now it shows with the other apps on the task manager, if I close dolphin it returns to the original position |
| 16:08.32 | watermind | Peace-: that, as far as I understand it, is a launcher *in* the task manager |
| 16:08.42 | Achillion | Can someone help me figure out why plasma is crashing? I can see the "crashing ... " messages, but I can't tell what's causing it: http://pastebin.com/Fjbq8XvQ |
| 16:09.03 | watermind | Peace-: there is no way for me to, for instance, put anything between the first two icons (dolphin and firefox) which are launchers, and the other two |
| 16:09.18 | watermind | Peace-: if I move the task manager, the launchers come with it |
| 16:09.35 | watermind | Peace-: if I right click the launchers I get access to the task manager options |
| 16:09.40 | Peace- | watermind: ok that is the widget |
| 16:09.50 | Peace- | it's not the standard widget i guess |
| 16:10.02 | watermind | well like I said this is the default panel |
| 16:10.11 | watermind | I did not change anything at all, besides putting it on the left |
| 16:10.39 | watermind | so now I'd like to know, how to add more launchers , and I cannot find any way to do it |
| 16:10.55 | watermind | I can add icons, but that is different |
| 16:11.04 | watermind | the behaviour is different |
| 16:11.41 | Peace- | watermind: the task manager doesn't look like that |
| 16:11.45 | Peace- | i mean the default |
| 16:11.53 | Peace- | you have added a new widget to the panel |
| 16:12.04 | Peace- | and it's icon task or someting like that |
| 16:12.05 | watermind | Peace-: if you move it to the left side it does |
| 16:12.20 | Peace- | watermind: distro ? |
| 16:12.24 | watermind | Peace-: add a default panel, and move it to the left, it will look like this |
| 16:12.43 | Peace- | distro ? |
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| 16:12.45 | watermind | Peace-: openSUSE |
| 16:12.54 | Peace- | ok i dunno i have kubuntu |
| 16:12.55 | watermind | Peace-: openSUSE 12.1 KDE 4.8 Beta 2 |
| 16:13.12 | Peace- | sorry i dunno about tat you should to opensusse channel |
| 16:13.16 | Peace- | i have not that panel |
| 16:13.51 | watermind | Peace-: did you try adding a default panel and putting it on the left? |
| 16:14.00 | watermind | I don't think this is opensuse specific |
| 16:14.15 | watermind | because I'm on Unstable (KDE 4.8 beta 2) |
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| 16:14.32 | watermind | and I was just told it does not have any openSUSE specific patches] |
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| 16:15.57 | Peace- | watermind: i did now it works like yours |
| 16:15.58 | savio | wana kde developer |
| 16:16.08 | savio | what should i do? |
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| 16:18.27 | Mogger | savio: http://community.kde.org/Getinvolved |
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| 16:19.05 | fullstop | hello.. I'm using KSC 4.7.2 in Kubuntu 11.10 |
| 16:19.45 | fullstop | apper's labels are all messed up during an update. It's purely a cosmetic problem. |
| 16:19.47 | fullstop | http://wstaw.org/m/2011/12/12/plasma-desktoptw2815.jpg |
| 16:19.51 | fullstop | is this known? |
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| 16:21.48 | Achillion | Can someone help me figure out why plasma is crashing? I can see the "crashing ... " messages, but I can't tell what's causing it: http://pastebin.com/Fjbq8XvQ (Arch Linux, KDE 4.7.4) |
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| 16:22.58 | Mogger | fullstop: you can try to ask here: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Apper?content=84745 |
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| 16:23.59 | Mogger | Achillion: does that happen on startup? |
| 16:24.27 | fullstop | Mogger: thanks |
| 16:24.41 | fullstop | I've been out of the kde loop for a while. Is Apper not part of the base KSC? |
| 16:24.49 | Mogger | fullstop: np |
| 16:24.54 | Mogger | as far as I know, no |
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| 16:25.29 | Achillion | Mogger: Nope. Usually happens while I'm changing things on panels. Other times without me doing anything special. |
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| 16:26.55 | Mogger | Achillion: do you get the crash dialog? |
| 16:27.57 | Achillion | Mogger: No. Panels disappear, all windows appear on a single workspace and it recovers almost instantly (everything goes back), sometimes with panels a bit out of place though. |
| 16:28.04 | Achillion | Mogger: Still, annoying! |
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| 16:30.52 | Mogger | Achillion: do you know any way to reproduce it every time, or is it "randomly" |
| 16:30.53 | Mogger | ? |
| 16:31.11 | Mogger | the latter is always hard to find a solution to :/ |
| 16:31.35 | Achillion | Mogger: "Randomly" ... at least seemingly |
| 16:31.40 | Achillion | Yeah, I know |
| 16:31.49 | Achillion | that's why I thought xsession-errors might help |
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| 16:33.50 | Mogger | Achillion: unfortunately I can't get any meaningful information out of it, but maybe someone else can |
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| 16:34.09 | Mogger | Achillion: you could also try to run kquitapp plasma-desktop, then run plasma-desktop from a terminal and look at the output |
| 16:34.42 | Achillion | Mogger: Ok! I'll try that. Thanks for the help. I'll also see if I can figure out a way to reproduce |
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| 16:35.53 | Mogger | Achillion: good luck! |
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| 16:36.47 | fullstop | Also, can I set the folder order in KMail? |
| 16:37.00 | fullstop | Inbox is in the middle of my folders and I'd rather it be at the top. |
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| 16:38.01 | hyper_ch | hi there, in the window settings you can use "temporarily" to force something for a small time... is there an option to define for how long? I do like videos being opened at a certain point in a certain size but with the option of resizing later... that force temporarily just doesn't do it... it opens it in desired size/place, but once video starts playing it gets sometimes autoresized |
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| 18:15.27 | mcfloppy | hello |
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| 18:28.21 | Ingar | hi, since my latest KDE update all my desktop icons are replaced with the gear icon (Arch Linux, kde 4.7.4) |
| 18:28.39 | Ingar | removing /var/tmp/kde=ingar or switching themes usually fixes it, but not this time |
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| 18:55.26 | Kicer86 | can i somehow turn on logging in kmail? My kmail from kde 4.7.4 does not receive messages via pop3, and i don't know what's going on |
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| 19:04.08 | cb400f | Kicer86: the golden rules of akonadi troubleshooting.. check that the relevant agent is running in 'akonadiconsole' .. and try 'akonadictl restart' |
| 19:06.16 | Kicer86 | one moment... |
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| 19:24.12 | Kicer86 | oh i used akonadiconsole's debug tab |
| 19:24.17 | Kicer86 | and there i got some messages |
| 19:24.18 | Kicer86 | thx |
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| 19:49.02 | pedahzur | I am using KMail 1.13.6 on KDE 4.7.2 (On Ubuntu 11.04). I recently added a new POP account (gmail, if it matters), and added some filters, restricting those filters to the new incoming gmail account. I have filters created from the "Create filter" popup on a message, some on subject, some on mailing list ID, but none of the filters are working. All my existing filters are working fine, but the new ones are not. Any ideas to trouble shoot |
| 19:49.03 | pedahzur | this? |
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| 19:50.22 | cb400f | kmail 1.x on kde sc 4.7.x sounds heavily unsupported and untested |
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| 20:17.16 | pedahzur | IIRC, when 4.7 was released, the KDE PIM suite was yet ready for release, thus was not released with 4.7. |
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| 20:37.11 | Oleg_ | how can I make my local weather information to be shown on the panel? |
| 20:37.13 | Oleg_ | please tell me |
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| 20:39.23 | Oleg_ | nothing happens when I try to add a weather applet to the panel |
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| 20:39.58 | Oleg_ | I want my local weather info to show up on the panel |
| 20:41.13 | gdebure | Oleg_: install one of the meteo plasmoids |
| 20:41.42 | gdebure | which weather applet did you choose ? |
| 20:42.12 | Oleg_ | Weather Forecast applet |
| 20:43.21 | gdebure | there is a standard KDE one called (here on archlinux) "weather" |
| 20:43.50 | gdebure | When I put it on the panel, I am able to configure it, and it will provide me with forecast |
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| 20:45.37 | Accelerator | I've installed almost 10 login theme's using KDE's built in downloader, but none of them are displaying. |
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| 20:47.36 | gdebure | Oleg_: http://imagebin.org/188259 |
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| 20:49.09 | Oleg_ | gdebure, looks pretty cool |
| 20:49.22 | gdebure | Oleg_: and also http://imagebin.org/188260 |
| 20:49.26 | Oleg_ | I just installed plasma-applet-cwp |
| 20:49.32 | Oleg_ | maybe that's what I need |
| 20:50.50 | gdebure | Any one you choose should be OK :) |
| 20:51.12 | gdebure | Accelerator: which KDE SC version ? |
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| 20:52.59 | Accelerator | gdebure, 4 something, how can I check that again? |
| 20:53.35 | gdebure | in any KDE app, go in the Help Menu, and choose "about kde" :) |
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| 20:55.29 | Accelerator | 4.7.4 |
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| 20:57.54 | gdebure | Accelerator: So my understanding is that you went in "system settings", "login screen", "Themes" and "Get new themes", right ? |
| 20:58.01 | Accelerator | Correct. |
| 20:58.17 | gdebure | Did it ask you for a root password at any point ? |
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| 20:58.29 | Accelerator | When exiting to save the settings. |
| 20:59.13 | gdebure | tries to reproduce this behaviour |
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| 21:00.00 | gdebure | Hmmm |
| 21:00.10 | gdebure | Can confirm this too on 4.7.90 |
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| 21:00.18 | gdebure | this is probably a bug |
| 21:00.26 | gdebure | let me check if it is already known |
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| 21:01.43 | Oleg_ | gdebure, what plasmoid are you using for weather info? |
| 21:02.06 | gdebure | Accelerator: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=255453 |
| 21:02.17 | Accelerator | Also, applications on KDE have a GTK1 like apperance to them. There was something I needed to change last time for this, but I don't remember what/where it was |
| 21:02.22 | gdebure | Obviously, the bug is not closed yet |
| 21:02.51 | gdebure | Oleg_: will be back to you in a minute :) |
| 21:03.20 | Accelerator | Suppose I could just run it under sudo. |
| 21:03.20 | gdebure | Accelerator: however, I know things are changing in this KDE component (login screen) |
| 21:03.31 | gdebure | Accelerator: yes, possibly |
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| 21:03.42 | gdebure | try running "kdesu systemsettings" |
| 21:03.56 | gdebure | About the look, |
| 21:04.24 | gdebure | There are a few settings on that |
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| 21:05.03 | gdebure | But basically, select "oxygen" anywhere you can in systemsettings (*not* using aforementionned kdesu) |
| 21:05.15 | gdebure | Oleg_: your turn :p |
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| 21:05.57 | gdebure | this weather plasmoid I used appears to be a standard one shipped with KDE |
| 21:06.15 | gdebure | it is probably available in your distro packages |
| 21:06.21 | gdebure | which distro are you on ? |
| 21:06.45 | Oleg_ | well, I added the cwp plasmoid to the panel |
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| 21:06.56 | Oleg_ | but it displays the weather info for Brazil |
| 21:07.03 | Oleg_ | even though I am in the U.S. |
| 21:07.18 | gdebure | Oleg_: you probably need to tell it where you are |
| 21:07.25 | Halzen | Any Chakra users here? |
| 21:07.38 | gdebure | Oleg_: right click on it, configure |
| 21:07.47 | gdebure | Halzen: archlinux here |
| 21:08.08 | gdebure | Chakra an archlinux used to be twins :) |
| 21:08.14 | gdebure | *and |
| 21:08.14 | Oleg_ | gdebure, your weather info is also displayed by the cwp plasmoid? |
| 21:08.24 | gdebure | checks |
| 21:08.28 | Halzen | gdebure: Yep, and I still like the heck out of Arch. A bit too much for an everyday laptop user, though. |
| 21:08.55 | Accelerator | That seems to have worked. |
| 21:08.58 | gdebure | runs arch on a laptop |
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| 21:09.35 | Accelerator | is running Arch on a laptop right now |
| 21:12.03 | Halzen | Must be me or my laptop, then. :P |
| 21:12.14 | Accelerator | gdebure, I can only find a setting in Application Apperance >> Style >> Widget Style |
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| 21:12.24 | Accelerator | I'm probably blind though |
| 21:12.45 | Accelerator | Halzen, I haven't gotten my keyboards functional key or mousepad to work fully yet though. |
| 21:14.59 | gdebure | Oleg_: cwp works, but its config is overkill for my taste |
| 21:15.24 | gdebure | which distro are you using ? |
| 21:17.18 | gdebure | Accelerator: there is also one in "workspace appearanceé |
| 21:17.22 | gdebure | *appearance |
| 21:17.38 | gdebure | window decoration |
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| 21:18.11 | Accelerator | I have a Windows decoration set |
| 21:18.18 | Accelerator | window* |
| 21:18.35 | Oleg_ | gdebure, I am on FreeBSD |
| 21:19.14 | Oleg_ | oh, I need to look for kweather? |
| 21:19.21 | gdebure | Oleg_: ok, don't know the package manager there, but basically look for any package that contains plasma or weather |
| 21:19.29 | gdebure | s/or/and |
| 21:19.31 | Accelerator | I don't see any other options though. |
| 21:19.49 | gdebure | kweather is an old KDE3 stuff IIRC |
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| 21:20.17 | gdebure | Accelerator: should be enough with those two |
| 21:20.27 | gdebure | still looking like gtk1 ? |
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| 21:20.46 | Halzen | Ew. |
| 21:21.15 | Accelerator | gdebure, http://i.imgur.com/6gYmX.png |
| 21:21.23 | Oleg_ | gdebure, I installed plasma-applet-cwp, plasma-applet-simpleweatherforecast, and plasma-applet-yawp |
| 21:22.05 | Halzen | Any particular reason to use Xchat instead of something like Quassel IRC? |
| 21:22.22 | Accelerator | Personal preference largely. |
| 21:22.22 | Frogbarf | personal preference perhaps? |
| 21:22.41 | Halzen | Mmkay. Only difference I've seen is appearance. :P |
| 21:22.50 | gdebure | Accelerator: how does dolphin look like ? |
| 21:23.30 | Halzen | Is there a better image viewer alternative to Gwenview? Mine runs really slowly under Chakra stable, and I'm looking for something more like Picasa's slick viewer on Windows. |
| 21:23.52 | gdebure | Oleg_: I don't know which one, here it is kdeplasma-addons-applets-weather |
| 21:24.19 | gdebure | Halzen: picasa runs on linux also IIRC |
| 21:24.26 | Accelerator | gdebure, http://i.imgur.com/YhKx0.png |
| 21:24.36 | gdebure | but it is a kind of a dirty hack using embedded wine |
| 21:25.05 | gdebure | Accelerator: hmm... |
| 21:25.20 | gdebure | Accelerator: pacman -Qs oxygen ? |
| 21:26.18 | Accelerator | http://pastie.org/3007316 |
| 21:26.29 | Halzen | gdebure: Picasa's main program (the organizer/editor) looks lovely in Linux, but have you ever used Picasa as a replacement for Windows Photo Viewer? It looks really slick, and performs really well. I haven't seen that on Linux. |
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| 21:27.11 | gdebure | Accelerator: Did you also change to oxygen in Application Apperance >> Style >> Widget Style ? |
| 21:27.36 | gdebure | Halzen: look for digikam :) |
| 21:27.52 | Accelerator | Yeah. I'm using Plastique though. Oxygen produces the same problem, I just like Plastique better |
| 21:28.05 | gdebure | http://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/635 |
| 21:28.36 | gdebure | Accelerator: looks like a bug I had in kde on windows for a while, due to a missing package |
| 21:28.46 | gdebure | I'm trying to remember which one |
| 21:28.59 | Accelerator | I had the same problem when I first installed Arch also |
| 21:29.04 | Accelerator | I don't remember what I did to fix it |
| 21:29.12 | gdebure | but arch excellent KDE packaging should not allow this.. |
| 21:29.49 | gdebure | pacman -Qs workspace ? |
| 21:30.10 | gdebure | should give kdebase-workspace 4.7.4-1 (kde) |
| 21:30.11 | Accelerator | local/kdebase-workspace 4.7.4-2 (kde) |
| 21:30.11 | Accelerator | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.23 | gdebure | scratches head |
| 21:30.41 | gdebure | dirty but should work : pacman -S kde |
| 21:30.51 | gdebure | and then some cleaning... |
| 21:31.01 | gdebure | but dirty as hell ! |
| 21:31.09 | Accelerator | re-install everything? |
| 21:31.26 | gdebure | Accelerator: yes, plus the kitchen sink |
| 21:31.38 | gdebure | many things you probably don't need |
| 21:31.58 | gdebure | there *must* be another way |
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| 21:33.19 | gdebure | tries combinations of locate and pacman |
| 21:33.27 | Halzen | I'm sure there is, Robin. |
| 21:33.27 | manutortosa | what do you search? |
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| 21:34.28 | manutortosa | gdebure: all the plasmoids are in kdeplasma-addons |
| 21:34.39 | manutortosa | you can install the wholegroup |
| 21:34.42 | gdebure | pacman -Qo /usr/lib/liboxygenstyle.so |
| 21:34.43 | gdebure | /usr/lib/liboxygenstyle.so appartient à kdebase-workspace 4.7.90-2 |
| 21:34.46 | manutortosa | sudo pacman -Sy kdeplasma-addongs |
| 21:35.14 | gdebure | manutortosa: we're looking for the package that provides the oxygen widget style |
| 21:35.34 | gdebure | plasmoids are another discussion :) |
| 21:35.36 | manutortosa | kde-woekspace |
| 21:35.41 | manutortosa | in chakra is kde-workspace |
| 21:35.52 | gdebure | yes, that's what i found |
| 21:35.59 | manutortosa | [manutortosa@chakra-pc buildroot]$ pacman -Qo /usr/lib/liboxygenstyle.so |
| 21:35.59 | manutortosa | /usr/lib/liboxygenstyle.so pertany a kde-workspace 4.7.90-5 |
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| 21:37.03 | gdebure | manutortosa: any idea what would cause Accelerator not being able to apply oxygen style or plastique style to his kde apps ? |
| 21:37.18 | manutortosa | accelarator? |
| 21:37.27 | Accelerator | gdebure, <d9500> Accelerator, if you mean really old, squarish, and win95-looking, then you probably need to install the oxygen or qtcurve gtk themes and install chakra-gtk-config from aur so you can easily pick one of them |
| 21:37.43 | Accelerator | That's from someone in #archlinux, and I'm pretty sure that's what I did last time that I couldn't remember |
| 21:37.48 | Accelerator | now if I can just get Yaourt to install. |
| 21:38.03 | manutortosa | ah |
| 21:38.08 | manutortosa | install gtk-integration |
| 21:38.09 | gdebure | Accelerator: don't install yaourt go for packer |
| 21:38.19 | Halzen | Yaourt is depreciated, and using it has broken my system, so be careful. I'm sure you've heard that warning before, though. |
| 21:38.41 | gdebure | manutortosa: long time no see, you're arch or chakra ? |
| 21:38.50 | gdebure | don't remember... |
| 21:38.51 | manutortosa | chakra |
| 21:38.59 | gdebure | thanks :) |
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| 21:39.21 | manutortosa | gtk-integration provides: chakra-gtk-config + oxygen-gtk + oxygen-gtk+icons |
| 21:39.33 | Accelerator | Yeah, I haven't used arch in so long I can't remember any of the packages I used. I used to use Packer and something else |
| 21:39.37 | Accelerator | packer works though |
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| 21:39.48 | manutortosa | it does |
| 21:40.12 | Halzen | So does Chakra and CCR, ;) |
| 21:40.17 | manutortosa | no |
| 21:40.28 | manutortosa | packer is for the Arch's AUR |
| 21:40.36 | manutortosa | for CCR we have a tool called CCR xD |
| 21:40.44 | manutortosa | sudo pacman -S ccr and go |
| 21:41.14 | manutortosa | you can use both packer for install from AUR or ccr for install from the ccr |
| 21:41.21 | Halzen | People whine about Chakra and AppSetQt, but I haven't had a problem with it yet. |
| 21:41.27 | gdebure | is chakra still based on arch, or independant now ? There were talks about moving away IIRC |
| 21:41.40 | manutortosa | well is independent |
| 21:41.43 | Halzen | gdebure: Chakra is considered independent now, since they are on their own repos. |
| 21:41.57 | manutortosa | and own packages naming . different versions ,etc |
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| 21:42.16 | Halzen | gdebure: They're still using pacman, but leaving that is in the works. |
| 21:42.37 | gdebure | I am very grateful for chakra devs: you guys made me discover the rolling release system :) |
| 21:42.53 | gdebure | and there's no way I'm going back to anything else ! |
| 21:43.12 | Halzen | gdebure: *fistpump* |
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| 21:43.33 | gdebure | \m/ |
| 21:43.35 | Halzen | I went the other way, from Arch to Chakra. Chakra is just a little easier for me to manage, and a bit more KDE purist. |
| 21:43.47 | Halzen | (even though I use bundled apps like Chromium and Filezilla) |
| 21:44.25 | Halzen | I wanted to like Fedora's KDE, but it's obviously a second-rate citizen compared to their Gnome spin. |
| 21:45.25 | gdebure | I still recommend chakra to friends wanting to discover linux |
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| 21:46.00 | Halzen | It might be a little hardcore for the total Linux noob. I was on Ubuntu-based distros for about a year before I started with Arch, and another few months after I found Chakra. |
| 21:47.00 | gdebure | crappy router dropped my connexion... |
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| 21:47.24 | Halzen | Comcast? Their DNS does that to me all the time. |
| 21:47.53 | gdebure | anyway, when I tried it a while ago, chakra was the perfect balance between user friendliness and power (IMHO) |
| 21:48.09 | gdebure | the GUI for package management was fantastic |
| 21:48.13 | gdebure | shaman ! |
| 21:48.19 | Halzen | It is, but the package management and stability isn't quite at Ubuntu/Mint's level. |
| 21:48.34 | gdebure | shaman 1 was excellent |
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| 21:48.38 | Halzen | Once someone knows what TTY is, and can handle a little Xorg.conf when needed, Chakra's a great choice. |
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| 21:49.14 | Halzen | Honestly, if MATE (Gnome 2 fork) was a bit more mature for Mint 12's release, that's probably where I'd be right now. |
| 21:49.16 | gdebure | I switched to arch somewhere before shaman 2 was completed (if it ever was ?) |
| 21:49.21 | Halzen | Not sure if that would be better or worse. |
| 21:49.39 | Halzen | Shaman isn't part of Chakra's stable right now, as far as I know. |
| 21:50.28 | manutortosa | shaman2 was never completed as Arch changed completelly libalpm breaking que Shaman's pacman backend, but it is being developed alongside the new package manager Akabei |
| 21:50.53 | manutortosa | /s/que/the |
| 21:51.12 | Halzen | Right. I was just reading that on Chakra's Wiki. manutortosa beat me to the copy-paste. :P |
| 21:51.34 | manutortosa | probably bcauue i wrote this |
| 21:51.36 | manutortosa | xD |
| 21:52.09 | gdebure | :) |
| 21:52.50 | gdebure | well, keep going guys, chakra is an excellent initiative :D |
| 21:53.12 | Halzen | Do any Chakra devs pop in here regularly? |
| 21:53.24 | manutortosa | i do |
| 21:53.25 | manutortosa | xD |
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| 21:53.43 | manutortosa | there's many around |
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| 21:54.04 | Halzen | Oh! o.o Didn't know. |
| 21:55.55 | Halzen | manutortosa: I happen to be a freelance graphic designer/artist, and I'm interested in contributing artwork to a FOSS project. Does that sound like something the Chakra team could use right now? |
| 21:56.19 | manutortosa | of course, join to #chakra-devel |
| 21:56.24 | Halzen | I was creating artwork and ads for Fuduntu for a little while, but left cuz the team was rather unguarded. |
| 21:56.27 | Halzen | Roger that, thanks. :) |
| 21:56.29 | manutortosa | everybody is welcome |
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| 22:09.39 | Accelerator | Well, I've got Oxygen working, but it doesn't seem to want to let me use any custom GTK themes. Mehh. |
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| 22:10.54 | Accelerator | ..Well...err, It's partially working |
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| 22:12.14 | Accelerator | http://i.imgur.com/CvzB7.png |
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| 22:14.32 | manutortosa | that's the xchat bundle? |
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| 22:16.40 | Accelerator | Yeah. It used to make XChat look like the file upload box does in Chromium, except it wasn't all white like that. |
| 22:17.02 | manutortosa | run kbuildsycoca4 |
| 22:17.06 | manutortosa | go to systemsetting |
| 22:17.26 | manutortosa | in gtk-config select the style. apply. should work for chromium |
| 22:17.37 | manutortosa | xchat probably needs a rebuild. is quite old |
| 22:17.50 | Halzen | Some GTK themes didn't "take" in my bundles, but others did. I don't really know why, or if it was just a system fluke. |
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| 22:19.41 | Accelerator | I swear I used to have it where it did "take" them all in before though. |
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| 22:20.20 | Halzen | I'm sure you tried restarting your KDE session between theme switches. |
| 22:20.28 | Accelerator | I have. |
| 22:20.31 | Halzen | KDE seems to be a bit more session-sensitive than Gnome. =/ |
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| 22:21.17 | Accelerator | Ah, there we go |
| 22:21.21 | Halzen | Yeah? |
| 22:21.35 | Accelerator | I just reapplied it and restarted Chromium |
| 22:21.45 | Halzen | Weird. That didn't work before? |
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| 22:22.53 | Accelerator | Oddly not, it instantly restored my sessions after relogging though. I didn't actually manually restart it after restarting my session, so maybe that was it. |
| 22:23.17 | Accelerator | http://i.imgur.com/SoSLo.png |
| 22:23.23 | Accelerator | Works now thouhg. |
| 22:23.30 | Accelerator | Now just to see if I can get some custom themes to work |
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| 22:25.01 | Accelerator | http://grvrulz.deviantart.com/art/Hope-gtk3-206207315 I kinda like this. |
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| 22:27.08 | Halzen | I used to use a lot of those charcoal-ish themes. Elegant Gnome was a favorite for a while. |
| 22:27.24 | Halzen | I kinda grew out of it in favor of themes like Zukitwo and the default Oxygen. |
| 22:28.32 | Accelerator | I also used Elegant Gnome for a long whime |
| 22:28.34 | Accelerator | while* |
| 22:29.03 | Accelerator | Think I still have an old screencap of it |
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| 22:29.56 | Halzen | I have a video on YouTube demoing Mint 10, Elegant Gnome, Aw0ken, and your typical noob's Compiz effects. |
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| 22:46.30 | Uranellus | hello, if the toolbox (little thing in the corner of desktop) goes missing, how do I get it back? |
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| 22:51.36 | Uranellus | (aka cashew) |
| 22:54.09 | Mogger | Uranellus: how did it go missing? |
| 22:54.33 | Mogger | just *poof* or did you do something to hide it? |
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| 22:57.21 | Uranellus | Mogger: I know it's not helpful, but I did do something actively. I've been removing the default activities and adding my own. sometimes it "just" comes back, sometimes after attaching an external screen. |
| 22:58.37 | Mogger | Uranellus: just to make sure - it's really gone and not changed into that tab-looking thing? |
| 22:58.48 | Mogger | and it's not outside the screen or anything like that? |
| 23:00.10 | Uranellus | Mogger: yeah, its gone. outside the screen, well that could be .. just found ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
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| 23:00.35 | Uranellus | [Containments][59][ToolBox] offset=1593 |
| 23:00.48 | Uranellus | and on my normal laptop screen I got less than that .. |
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| 23:02.32 | Uranellus | oh well, and after changing it to 800 and kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop, it's there again. |
| 23:02.51 | Uranellus | Mogger: thanks for the hint "outside the screen" :) |
| 23:03.34 | Mogger | Uranellus: np, seems like you figured it out yourself :) |
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| 23:05.22 | Uranellus | Mogger: nah, always helpful, whenever more than one person thinks about a problem :) |
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