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| 00:47.30 | yggdrasil | how can i stop the windows from maximizing when I slide them off the screen, and around.. |
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| 00:49.21 | Jucato | yggdrasil: System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Screen Edges -> Window Management section |
| 00:50.59 | yggdrasil | Jucato, thanks works great |
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| 02:30.56 | carutsu | my date and time module is all grayed out I can't change it with the GUI, not even if I run systemsettings with kdesu, any ideas? |
| 02:31.37 | carutsu | KDE 4.7.4 |
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| 02:50.32 | desti | where does kde store the session config? |
| 02:52.40 | Jucato | you mean the session that gets loaded when you start kde? ~/.kde/share/config/session/ |
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| 03:14.18 | Mneumonic | Is there a good alternative for Amarok for KDE? I have never been an Amarok fan |
| 03:15.48 | jaszandre | hi, I have a problem trying to install Nvidia drivers in Fedora. I want to deactivate nouveau but I can't.. help me please |
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| 03:18.19 | jaszandre | I'm using Fedora 16, I try to edit /boot/grub2/grub.cfg but there I don't know how to deactivate nouveau, in Fedora 16 is different |
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| 03:32.59 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.7 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://paste.kde.org | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
| 03:33.45 | handygandy | Is there a way for me to login as another user in an activity? Meaning I am that user inside the activity? |
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| 03:44.56 | Mneumonic | carutsu_ tomahawk is a kde or gnome app? |
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| 03:45.16 | carutsu_ | Qt based, I don't think it depends on KDE at all |
| 03:45.30 | Mneumonic | ahh good stuff, better than gtk based |
| 03:47.53 | Jucato | (there's also Juk, which is shipped with KDE. but I'm not really familiar with how to use it) |
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| 03:50.47 | Mneumonic | juk looks like just what i'm looking for |
| 03:52.10 | Mneumonic | Okay I want to ask a question but I don't want to offend anyone. |
| 03:52.33 | Mneumonic | What is the controversy with Opensuse? I hear people say they hate it but I don't see why. |
| 03:52.50 | Mneumonic | I know its something to do with microsoft. |
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| 04:28.15 | qop2 | sigh, could somebody give me a hand compiling koffice? |
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| 04:28.39 | qop2 | there is no README so I gitted the code then cmaked ./cmake/ |
| 04:28.48 | qop2 | I get: No cmake_minimum_required command is present. A line of code such as |
| 04:29.43 | qop2 | cmake -Wno-dev ./cmake/ override it but Makefile is empty |
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| 05:07.30 | qop2 | gives up |
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| 05:18.15 | caf4926 | qop2: isn't there a build for your distro |
| 05:19.10 | qop2 | caf4926: nope |
| 05:19.28 | caf4926 | pooh |
| 05:21.04 | qop2 | oh got it... |
| 05:21.18 | qop2 | cmake always confuse me :s |
| 05:21.59 | qop2 | naw failed too |
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| 05:36.38 | tohuw | Is there some reason why none of my KDE widgets can access the Internet? (KDE 4.7.3, Kubuntu 11.10, fresh install) |
| 05:40.03 | tjb0607 | I just updated and dolphin stopped working. Do I need to restart KDE? |
| 05:40.56 | tohuw | tjb0607: try it? |
| 05:43.47 | tjb0607 | I'm compiling something right now so I'll wait for that to finish first |
| 05:44.35 | tohuw | That, or invoke dolphin from a terminal session and see what dumps to stdout. Or, check dmesg/syslog |
| 05:44.58 | qop2 | some libs must have been updated |
| 05:46.25 | tjb0607 | would nepomuk not running prevent dolphin from working at all? |
| 05:46.43 | tjb0607 | because I think that's what the error messages are saying |
| 05:46.44 | tohuw | Highly possible. You might be able to resolve it by killing any running dolphin processes, but who knows what else calls those libraries, or if that will work. In general, you update a workstation, you get an error, you restart and see if it persists. Troubleshooting before that can be more trouble than it's worth on a machine you can freely restart. |
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| 05:47.14 | tohuw | tjb0607: What error messages? What do they actually read? |
| 05:47.54 | tjb0607 | "/usr/bin/dolphin(4653)" Soprano: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service files" |
| 05:47.54 | tjb0607 | "/usr/bin/dolphin(4653)" Soprano: "Unsupported operation (2)": "Invalid model" (X2) |
| 05:47.54 | tjb0607 | "/usr/bin/dolphin(4653)" Soprano: "Invalid iterator." |
| 05:48.00 | tjb0607 | and it repeats that a bunch |
| 05:50.09 | tohuw | tjb0607: Are there any broken dependencies? What distribution are you using? |
| 05:50.16 | tjb0607 | Arch |
| 05:51.34 | tjb0607 | and the way I updated this time might have screwed things up, I ran out of space so I had to cancel it and clear pacman's cache and re-do the packages it didn't download |
| 05:52.14 | tjb0607 | oh it works now |
| 05:52.28 | tohuw | Yes, that could have caused a problem. Use pacman to see if there are unmet or broken dependencies. I suspect something with pacman -Rs, but I don't know. |
| 05:52.31 | tohuw | Oh, well then. |
| 05:53.52 | tjb0607 | wait no it doesn't |
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| 05:57.08 | tohuw | Is there some reason why none of my KDE widgets can access the Internet? (KDE 4.7.3, Kubuntu 11.10, fresh install) |
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| 06:00.34 | tjb0607 | huh now I rebooted and there's no window manager on my KDE screen |
| 06:01.28 | tjb0607 | time to reinstall kde |
| 06:02.08 | tohuw | Or just see what went wrong via logs and fix it, but I can't blame a shotgun approach when it comes to non-servers. :) |
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| 06:06.33 | tjb0607 | where can I find logs for this? |
| 06:06.45 | tjb0607 | exit |
| 06:06.57 | tjb0607 | ignore that post ^ |
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| 06:08.46 | tohuw | tjb0607: start by checking syslog. Also check wherever pacman logs to. |
| 06:10.31 | tohuw | tjb0607: you may get more specific help by asking in #archlinux |
| 06:10.36 | Mneumonic | Is there another distro with KDE implementation around the same quality as OpenSuSE? |
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| 06:13.58 | tjb0607 | warning: /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc installed as /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.pacnew |
| 06:14.09 | tjb0607 | looks like the problem... |
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| 06:16.51 | tjb0607 | or maybe not since that' just a config file |
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| 06:21.33 | tjb0607 | that fixed it |
| 06:22.03 | tohuw | tjb0607: what did? Moving the kdmrc? |
| 06:22.08 | tjb0607 | yeah |
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| 06:32.58 | tjb0607 | obviously a few global kde settings got wiped but I didn't really change much other than auto-login |
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| 06:39.05 | Mneumonic | Is there another distro with KDE implementation around the same quality as OpenSuSE? |
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| 07:39.58 | vdv | i have some .desktop items in ~/.local/share/applications, but they are not showed in K-Menu. how can i fix that? |
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| 07:46.13 | Jucato | vdv: did you manually create those? |
| 07:46.39 | vdv | Jucato, no, they were created by Nokia's QtSDK at first install |
| 07:47.06 | vdv | later i've removed and installed QtSDK again, but icons are not reappeared |
| 07:47.55 | Jucato | try running the command "kbuildsycoca4". sometimes it takes a bit of time for the kmenu to refresh |
| 07:48.09 | Jucato | it should appear under Applications -> Development |
| 07:48.20 | Jucato | (or just type in "creator" or "qt" in the search box |
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| 07:50.00 | Zombie | Is there something like Kiosktool in KDE 4.x? |
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| 07:53.01 | vdv | Jucato, List entry Categories in "/usr/share/applications/Nokia-QtCreator.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). |
| 07:53.26 | vdv | kubuildsysoca4 says |
| 07:53.28 | vdv | thanks |
| 07:53.49 | Jucato | you can ignore those errors/warnings (most of the time) |
| 07:53.51 | Jucato | works now? |
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| 07:57.26 | vdv | Jucato, no, i thought, it was because of after "Development" there was no semicolon, but i've added it and nothing |
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| 07:58.22 | Jucato | sometimes kmenu really updates late for me. I usually just check with krunner (Alt+F2) |
| 07:58.51 | vdv | i have two entries for qtcreator there |
| 07:59.06 | vdv | think one is system wide and another local |
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| 09:07.29 | valorie | hey folks, if any of you don't read the planet: http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2011/11/help-kde-ev-secure-funding-for-sprint.html |
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| 09:07.58 | valorie | 349 nicks here; that could be about 1000 votes! |
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| 09:11.47 | RingtailedFox | sprint? |
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| 09:13.49 | aseigo | RingtailedFox: developer sprint .. where we get developers together for 3-7 days to work on things in person |
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| 09:17.50 | valorie | 1000 euros can go a long way to supporting one |
| 09:18.07 | valorie | click, click, click! |
| 09:18.19 | RingtailedFox | i see |
| 09:18.37 | RingtailedFox | the germans seem very generous these days... helping out open-source organizations... bailing out greece... |
| 09:18.48 | RingtailedFox | did they think that this is a more socially-acceptable way of taking over the world? becuase... it is. :P |
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| 09:53.46 | valorie | RingtailedFox: all of europe is interested in open source |
| 09:54.19 | RingtailedFox | i've noticed |
| 09:54.26 | RingtailedFox | why is that? |
| 09:54.28 | valorie | at the desktop summit, the City of Berlin awarded some of their open source prizes on the final night |
| 09:54.45 | valorie | they believe in freedom? |
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| 09:55.06 | valorie | probably helps that the big closed source software companies are American |
| 09:55.25 | valorie | I wish the US did as well |
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| 09:56.23 | soulthreads | Europe is closer to the former centre of the communism. :) |
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| 09:58.27 | valorie | there are a lot of successful open source companies in Europe |
| 09:58.37 | valorie | I've been in the KDAB offices |
| 09:59.02 | valorie | Google is pretty good at supporting open source |
| 09:59.05 | valorie | in their own way |
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| 10:12.52 | gribouille2 | hi |
| 10:13.58 | gribouille2 | I've migrated from kde 4.6.2 to kde 4.7.3 and now, all my contacts are gone |
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| 10:17.35 | gribouille2 | hi |
| 10:17.39 | gribouille2 | someone here? |
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| 10:18.34 | gribouille2 | I've migrated from kde 4.6.2 to kde 4.7.3 and now, all my contacts are lost |
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| 10:22.28 | moonflux | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.42 | moonflux | anybody seen this before? |
| 10:22.48 | moonflux | no debug output, no nothing |
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| 10:25.16 | valorie | moonflux: see #kubuntu |
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| 10:26.46 | moonflux | valorie: I don't think this is a kubuntu bug. or maybe it is, dunno since I don't get any feedback from kmail when it comes to sending mails |
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| 10:27.10 | annma | moonflux: did it work before upgrade? |
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| 10:27.28 | annma | did you restart your machine since? |
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| 10:28.50 | moonflux | annma: yes, kde 4.7.2 worked fine |
| 10:28.57 | moonflux | and yes, I rebooted in between |
| 10:29.18 | moonflux | my biggest issue is that I don't get any feedback from kmail |
| 10:29.22 | annma | so it seems a distro issue |
| 10:29.30 | moonflux | also, I can see from my mailserver logs that it doesn't even try to connect |
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| 10:29.52 | moonflux | why should it be a distro issue? could also be broken between .2 and .3 |
| 10:30.08 | moonflux | (I was on 4.7.2 on oneiric before and it worked fine) |
| 10:30.18 | annma | between .2 and .3 it's only bug fixes |
| 10:30.24 | annma | not even sure kmail changed |
| 10:30.28 | moonflux | well, bug fixes can also introduce new busg :) |
| 10:30.31 | annma | no |
| 10:30.33 | moonflux | bugs even |
| 10:30.36 | annma | unlikely |
| 10:30.41 | annma | very unlikely |
| 10:30.52 | moonflux | but possible :) |
| 10:31.02 | annma | your akonadi agent does not work anymore for smtp |
| 10:31.16 | moonflux | is smtp handled by kmail or akonadi? |
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| 10:31.25 | moonflux | (I don't have any smtp ressources in akonadi) |
| 10:31.29 | annma | wait |
| 10:31.56 | moonflux | but I have three smtp accounts in kmail |
| 10:32.28 | annma | do you have akonadiconsole? |
| 10:32.35 | moonflux | yes, think so, sec |
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| 10:33.08 | moonflux | now I have :) |
| 10:33.09 | annma | run it and look at the mail dispatcher agent |
| 10:34.01 | moonflux | aye, nice, thats what I was looking for |
| 10:34.08 | moonflux | the mail dispatcher is offline for some reason |
| 10:34.32 | moonflux | jepp, switching it online made my mail go out |
| 10:34.44 | moonflux | why is this hidden in a "developer only" app? |
| 10:35.01 | annma | because usually you don't need it |
| 10:35.26 | annma | strange that anpother user just got the same error |
| 10:35.33 | annma | from Ubuntu upgrade |
| 10:35.37 | moonflux | hm |
| 10:35.43 | annma | the fix was given from a kmail devel |
| 10:35.49 | annma | it was in French |
| 10:35.55 | moonflux | I was on kmail 2 on natty already, so its not the dreaded oneiric brokeness |
| 10:35.59 | annma | I only translated it all |
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| 10:36.46 | moonflux | hmm... I had the problem that kmail was in offline mode but told me it was online before |
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| 10:37.00 | moonflux | but since my IMAP worked this time; I didn't try toggling that option |
| 10:37.06 | annma | anyway it's fixed |
| 10:37.08 | annma | :) |
| 10:37.16 | annma | for once I solved a problem |
| 10:37.23 | moonflux | thnaks a lot |
| 10:37.26 | moonflux | thanks even |
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| 10:37.44 | moonflux | that akonadiconsole is exactly what I was looking for for a long time |
| 10:38.29 | gribouille2 | why aren't filters imported in kmail2? |
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| 10:38.51 | annma | gribouille2: ask in #kontact |
| 10:38.59 | annma | you're welcome moonflux |
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| 10:40.07 | moonflux | annma: maybe this is broken since kubuntu actually downgraded plasma-nm on upgrade (between natty-kubuntu-backports and oneiric) |
| 10:40.30 | moonflux | the plasma-nm is totally broken in oniric, maybe it told akonadi the machine was offline hile it wasn't |
| 10:40.55 | annma | this online/offline management will be improved, I am just told |
| 10:41.01 | annma | in kmail |
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| 11:44.37 | xteensx | http://xteensx.info/2011/11/09/young-girl-masturbate/ |
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| 11:45.31 | hardcore | hi! i installed KDE and if i want to start a program nothing happens :-/ |
| 11:46.06 | [jmc] | hardcore: try launching it from a console, so you can actually see what's happening |
| 11:46.16 | hardcore | okay |
| 11:46.43 | [jmc] | I have a question too: is there any way to switch sound theme in KDE? |
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| 11:46.49 | [jmc] | I seem unable to find it anywhere |
| 11:47.02 | h0m3r | hi |
| 11:47.22 | h0m3r | i have some cifs volumes mounted in my desktop folder |
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| 11:48.15 | h0m3r | and whan i type something to search in kde menu it freezes the system for about 1 minute, but only if i have cifs volumes mounted |
| 11:48.58 | [jmc] | h0m3r: imho in your case you might benefit from disabling nepomuk/strigi |
| 11:49.00 | [jmc] | try that |
| 11:49.05 | h0m3r | also, when I open mounted volumes with dolphin, it takes about one minute to show folder contents, i think this is because it's analyzing folder contents |
| 11:49.14 | h0m3r | [jmc]: nepomuk/strigi is already disabled |
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| 11:51.12 | hardcore | [jmc]: it sais BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 |
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| 11:51.28 | hardcore | and major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty) |
| 11:51.46 | [jmc] | hardore: which application and distro you're on? |
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| 11:52.08 | hardcore | [jmc]: firefox or chormium |
| 11:53.16 | hardcore | i just installed KDE in arch the package "KDE" |
| 11:53.35 | hardcore | are there any other loggs |
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| 11:56.53 | h0m3r | i think my problem may be related to analyzing file mime contents, is there any way to disable it and rely only on file extension? |
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| 11:59.02 | hardcore | i got firefox: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_datalist_get_data |
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| 12:00.33 | pinotree | hardcore: you should ask in the channel of your distro about that |
| 12:00.49 | hardcore | yep all right |
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| 12:05.41 | JackBauer24 | Is it possible to set the combination CTRL+F in Dolphin to open "kfind"? |
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| 12:06.08 | JackBauer24 | The built-in search engine leaves a lot to be desired |
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| 12:29.33 | artzzz | hello everyone |
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| 12:30.16 | artzzz | I am starting to use KDE and I observed that there is a small shortcut to Dolphin in my taskbar. However, once dolphin is started, it just disappears, until there are no other instances of dolphin running. Any idea on how to avoid this behaviour so the icon is always there? |
| 12:31.33 | aseigo | artzzz: you can drag the dolphin icon from the application launcher to the taskbar to create a permanent launcher |
| 12:32.23 | aseigo | artzzz: the idea of the integrated launchers in the windows listing is that they come and go when it isn't running. if it is running, you just click on the window to bring it up.. less space wasted |
| 12:32.52 | aseigo | artzzz: in the upcoming 4.8 release, you can right click on a window entry, however, (such as dolphin) and select "Start new instance" .. which means every item in the list is also a launcher :) |
| 12:34.16 | artzzz | oh ok great |
| 12:34.17 | artzzz | thanks! |
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| 12:37.23 | Paddy_NI | Hey pinotree I have finally gotten the basics of css and html.. just thought I would let you know :-) |
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| 12:38.03 | Paddy_NI | Cheers for pointing me in the right direction guys :-) |
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| 14:00.54 | audionb | hello, how do you write the characters «, …, »? |
| 14:01.23 | [jmc] | depends on the layout |
| 14:01.29 | soulthreads | audionb, by using Compose key. |
| 14:01.40 | audionb | Compose key? |
| 14:01.58 | annma | audionb: French keyboard does the parenthesis |
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| 14:02.11 | soulthreads | audionb, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key |
| 14:02.42 | audionb | i don't have a compose key |
| 14:02.45 | audionb | annma: what do you mean? |
| 14:03.06 | annma | « is FRench quote |
| 14:03.15 | audionb | annma: i know |
| 14:03.30 | annma | so you can't do this? |
| 14:03.49 | audionb | it's not on my keyboard |
| 14:03.56 | annma | do you use KDE in French? |
| 14:04.00 | soulthreads | audionb, you can chose it in KDE in keyobard settings. |
| 14:04.12 | audionb | annma: no it's in english |
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| 14:04.17 | annma | taht's why |
| 14:04.43 | annma | English has no such quotes |
| 14:05.35 | [jmc] | audionb, you might already have it, here it default to my "AltGr" key |
| 14:05.41 | audionb | « © … |
| 14:05.59 | audionb | yes it's fine i put the compose key to be alt gr :) thanks! |
| 14:06.41 | Jucato | if you have a Windows key at the right side of the spacebar, that would be a good key to use (practically unused) |
| 14:06.58 | audionb | yes, better; because now i can't use alt gr anymore :) |
| 14:07.06 | soulthreads | uses Menu key. |
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| 14:07.37 | audionb | ye, really useless key as well :) |
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| 14:08.16 | Jucato | (until you find yourself lacking a mouse or a right-button mouse button) |
| 14:08.29 | audionb | sure ^^ |
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| 16:05.54 | greenit | hi, i have 3 questions: 1.) when i look at the system-info, there stands that i use gnome 3.0.2 instead of kde.... is this a mistake, or do i have a mismatch? 2.) the window looks like win2k, except the windowframe... can i change this anyhow? 3.) i installed yakuake (i used guake in gnome), but i am not able to start or use it... how do i do this? |
| 16:06.47 | greenit | i am using linux mint debian edition btw |
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| 16:07.55 | soulthreads | greenit, 1) system-info is a gnome application so it's answer is obvious. Use kinfocenter. :) |
| 16:08.19 | Faither | greenit: Last time i tried to use mint debian and install KDE apt-get it said something about seriously broken packages |
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| 16:08.38 | Faither | and wouldn't install |
| 16:08.42 | greenit | Faither: i installed it today and it worked very good |
| 16:09.04 | greenit | ah, i have kde-version 4.6.5^^ |
| 16:10.07 | Jucato | I can only try to help with the yakuake part. how are you not able to start it? you've tried starting it from the menu? |
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| 16:10.32 | Jucato | (btw, if you could, you should probably upgrade to 4.7 since that's the latest stable) |
| 16:10.56 | greenit | Jucato: i installed it and wanted to start it via the menu, but i can't find it |
| 16:11.10 | soulthreads | greenit, Alt+F2, yakuake |
| 16:11.13 | Faither | alt + f2 |
| 16:11.22 | soulthreads | It's easier. |
| 16:11.28 | Jucato | yeah |
| 16:11.41 | Jucato | it would be under Applications -> System anyway |
| 16:11.47 | greenit | ah, nice^^ thx :) |
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| 16:12.24 | soulthreads | greenit, second question is maybe about gtk apps with Raleigh (default) style? |
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| 16:14.15 | greenit | soulthreads: i mean, for example xchat, that the window-frame is fine, but inside of this window, the scrollbars and menu and everything else, looks like in win2k.... can i change this look? |
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| 16:15.23 | Jucato | yes. because xchat is not a kde or qt app, it will use gtk settings, which is Raleigh by default (usually) |
| 16:15.28 | soulthreads | greenit, yes. xchat is GTK+ app, so it uses gtk style settings. |
| 16:15.38 | soulthreads | is slow. |
| 16:16.08 | greenit | soulthreads: oh, does mintupdate also use gtk+? |
| 16:16.11 | Jucato | System Settings -> Application Appearance -> GTK+ Style and Fonts. I'm not sure if oxygen-gtk is available in mint |
| 16:16.22 | soulthreads | Jucato, should be. |
| 16:17.12 | soulthreads | greenit, apparently, yes. |
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| 16:18.26 | soulthreads | greenit, if there is no "GTK+ Appearence" item in the systemsettings, try to install oxygen-gtk package. |
| 16:18.35 | greenit | well... when i go to system settings -> application appearance ther is only style, colors, icons, fonts, emoticons... where can i change the gtk+ style now?^^ in style |
| 16:18.50 | greenit | damn, wanted to delete in style^^ |
| 16:19.28 | Jucato | you dont' have GTK+ Appearance there? |
| 16:19.34 | greenit | nope |
| 16:19.46 | Jucato | has forgotten the layout of System Settings 4.6 if it's the same |
| 16:19.55 | ealexp | hello |
| 16:20.15 | Jucato | go back to the overview and try using the search box at the top. maybe it's placed in another group |
| 16:20.15 | greenit | however, i also cant install oxygen-gtk, there is no such package |
| 16:20.32 | ealexp | /var/tmp/kdecache-ealexp/http seems to be full of some http files |
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| 16:20.50 | ealexp | but I don't use konqueror |
| 16:20.56 | soulthreads | greenit, it can be called something like gtk2-engine-oxygen or so. |
| 16:21.01 | ealexp | I just use choqok and kopete |
| 16:21.28 | ealexp | so why doesn't KDE delete this directory? |
| 16:21.30 | greenit | soulthreads: ah, thx :) |
| 16:21.38 | ealexp | and can I remove it safely? |
| 16:21.56 | soulthreads | Ah, gtk2-engines-oxygen. |
| 16:22.29 | Jucato | might need to help him find "kcm-gtk" too >.< |
| 16:23.38 | soulthreads | kde-config-gtk |
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| 16:24.09 | Jucato | ok then. all is well. good night and good luck :) |
| 16:24.43 | greenit | thx^^ |
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| 16:25.27 | greenit | do i have to reboot / restart anything that the changes take place? |
| 16:25.59 | soulthreads | greenit, only restart gtk applications. |
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| 16:26.34 | greenit | ok, i am back in a minute^^ |
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| 16:27.51 | greenit | well... doesnt look different :( |
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| 16:28.09 | Jucato | did you actually change the settings? |
| 16:28.34 | Jucato | installing the packages doesn't change the settings |
| 16:28.48 | soulthreads | greenit, do you have a .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 file in your home directory? |
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| 16:29.29 | greenit | soulthreads: nope, i have a .gtkrc-2.0-kde |
| 16:30.41 | greenit | Jucato: i have changed the "Widget Style" to "oxygen-gtk" |
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| 16:36.19 | soulthreads | greenit, well, try to copy it to file ~/.gtkrc-2.0 :) |
| 16:36.58 | greenit | soulthreads: and then? |
| 16:37.07 | soulthreads | greenit, and then restart gtk application. |
| 16:38.01 | greenit | soulthreads: i'll brb^^ |
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| 16:39.01 | greenit | soulthreads: thx, it works :) |
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| 16:42.56 | greenit | is there a ppa (or something like that for linux mint debian edition) for the latest kde-version? |
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| 16:48.03 | soulthreads | greenit, what mint version do you use? |
| 16:48.35 | greenit | soulthreads: lmde^^ |
| 16:48.48 | greenit | soulthreads: its a rolling release, there is no version-number |
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| 16:49.41 | greenit | soulthreads: i thought that kde4.7 will be included, but probably it is not rdy or something like that... well, i think i just w8^^ |
| 16:49.51 | soulthreads | greenit, oh, lmde. I'm afraid enabling kde ppa will involve a big problems. |
| 16:50.18 | greenit | soulthreads: true |
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| 16:52.42 | soulthreads | greenit, so, you should look at qt-kde.debian.net and wait for a moment when they will decide to make packages for kde4.7. |
| 16:53.07 | greenit | soulthreads: k, thx :) |
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| 16:59.04 | soulthreads | greenit, sorry, but that abbreviations (as English is non-native to me) puzzles me. |
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| 17:14.32 | slamd64 | hello, please tell me how can I switch between workspaces on kde 4.7.1. I am using Slackware 13.37 |
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| 17:15.49 | soulthreads | slamd64, by default it is Ctrl+F1..F4. |
| 17:15.54 | burnin | slamd64: I'm on Fedora 15, I use the mouse wheel while pointing at the desktop or in the task bar there is a widget. |
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| 18:06.15 | graft | hi all, i'm having some troubles with activities - when i hit meta-Q (in 4.7.2), it opens the activities pane and the search box appears to have focus, but i need to actually tab in and out to start typing... is that a bug? |
| 18:06.54 | graft | also, once i've typed in the name of something (like the activity i want to switch to) i can't select it by hitting enter or tabbing or anything - have to use the mouse... am i missing something? is THAT a bug? |
| 18:09.41 | soulthreads | graft, yes, it's a bug. It also appears in widget adding. |
| 18:10.17 | graft | soulthreads: yes, i found the bug thread... seems to be unresolved, dangit |
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| 18:11.21 | graft | makes it a lot less attractive to use activities... i hate using the mouse |
| 18:12.07 | Mogger | graft: can you please link to the bug? |
| 18:12.24 | graft | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270252 |
| 18:12.39 | graft | (that after following a chain of dups) |
| 18:12.40 | Mogger | graft: the related bug with the add widgets thingy is on my list of "minor things that annoy me and that I want to fix" |
| 18:12.52 | Mogger | graft: thanks |
| 18:13.14 | graft | i guess the 'hitting enter to select' would be a separate bug |
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| 18:13.57 | Mogger | graft: yes |
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| 18:15.04 | japa-fi | I have small problem with KDE. I can't logout.... Nothing happens.. |
| 18:15.23 | japa-fi | F16 being the distro |
| 18:16.05 | japa-fi | What would be the nice way to end the session? |
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| 18:16.23 | graft | japa-fi: can you ctrl-alt-backspace? |
| 18:16.36 | graft | woops |
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| 18:17.33 | soulthreads | graft, bad advice. :) |
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| 18:18.07 | ssureshot | I'm having desktop lag issues on fresh install of fedora, I was wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction for a resolution |
| 18:18.07 | soulthreads | like alt+f4 back in previous days... |
| 18:18.12 | japa-fi | the alt-ctrl backspace helped. thanks |
| 18:18.12 | graft | sorry about that, japa-fi |
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| 18:18.44 | japa-fi | I was wondering if killing startkde.sh would have been appropriate. |
| 18:18.56 | japa-fi | With gnome, I would have killed gnome-session |
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| 18:19.11 | graft | sometimes i just do pkill -9 -f <my username> |
| 18:19.15 | japa-fi | thus, got what I wanted, no need to apologize |
| 18:19.18 | pinotree | ... whose kde equivalent is called ksmserver |
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| 18:24.12 | jargonaut | anyone here running kde 4.7 on fedora 16? |
| 18:25.26 | burnin | yes |
| 18:25.34 | burnin | maybe |
| 18:25.35 | burnin | :) |
| 18:25.52 | burnin | no |
| 18:25.56 | burnin | 4.6 |
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| 18:27.02 | burnin | Ah, Fedora 16, sorry, not thinking, I'm still on 15. |
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| 18:31.07 | jargonaut | ok, thanks |
| 18:31.48 | jargonaut | how bout anyone on 4.7 on any distro? |
| 18:32.10 | jargonaut | i'm trying to see if I've found a bug or if it's just some config i've done |
| 18:32.13 | Mneumonic | What are some distros that do KDE nearly as well as OpenSuSE? |
| 18:32.36 | Mneumonic | I am starting to like KDE and OpenSuSE does it well....but I'd prefer not to use OpenSuSE |
| 18:32.49 | soulthreads | jargonaut, 4.7.3 on kubuntu. |
| 18:33.22 | jargonaut | Mneumonic: PCLinuxOS |
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| 18:33.46 | graft | soulthreads: kubuntu is on 4.7.2 - do you mean via PPA? |
| 18:34.05 | soulthreads | graft, my mistake. |
| 18:34.05 | Mneumonic | PCLOS looks good but I need a 64 bit distro, sorry I should have mentioned that |
| 18:34.16 | jargonaut | ok, would you mind seeing if system settings crashes for you when you try to configure window rules on oxygen |
| 18:34.22 | soulthreads | graft, yes, it's actually 4.7.2 |
| 18:35.28 | soulthreads | jargonaut, where oxygen is a widget style? |
| 18:36.12 | jargonaut | windows style |
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| 18:37.02 | the_gamer | is there a way to import all settings and mails from kmail to kmail2? |
| 18:37.08 | jargonaut | system settings > workspace appearance > windows decorations > select oxygen > configure decoration |
| 18:37.34 | jargonaut | then go to window specific overides and try to add |
| 18:37.39 | the_gamer | jargonaut, i guess you are not talking to me, right? |
| 18:37.45 | jargonaut | it crashes for me every time there. |
| 18:37.50 | annma | the_gamer: mails are migrated |
| 18:37.59 | soulthreads | jargonaut, all works fine. |
| 18:38.06 | jargonaut | the_gamer: sorry i was talking to soulthreads |
| 18:38.09 | annma | the_gamer: accounts also should but that might fail |
| 18:38.16 | jargonaut | soulthreads: thanks man |
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| 18:38.29 | the_gamer | annma, they aren't! i have both folders /home/me/.kde4/share/kmail and kmail2 my mails are in the first one and are not migrated |
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| 18:38.30 | annma | the_gamer: first time you run kmail2 it will migrate your mails |
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| 18:38.41 | the_gamer | accounts are there but the passwords did not migrate... |
| 18:38.46 | the_gamer | i need the passwords and my mails |
| 18:38.48 | the_gamer | and folders |
| 18:38.49 | jargonaut | soulthreads: i'm thinking it's a fedora 16 kde bug |
| 18:38.55 | the_gamer | it didn't |
| 18:39.00 | annma | the_gamer: you can set the passwords |
| 18:39.13 | annma | the_gamer: did yo usee the migration tool? |
| 18:39.19 | soulthreads | jargonaut, maybe. Did you search the bug in the bugzilla? |
| 18:39.22 | the_gamer | where is the migration tool? |
| 18:39.33 | annma | it runs the first time you run kmail2 |
| 18:39.40 | the_gamer | i don't know the password for one of the accounts... but it is in the settings of kmail... |
| 18:39.43 | the_gamer | it didn't! |
| 18:40.02 | jargonaut | soulthreads: a little but i will search a lot more when i get home and submit a report if i don't find anything. |
| 18:40.26 | soulthreads | jargonaut, doing it right. |
| 18:40.31 | the_gamer | annma, can i start it by hand? |
| 18:40.57 | jargonaut | soulthreads: thanks so much for your help. |
| 18:41.54 | the_gamer | $ kmail-migrator |
| 18:41.54 | the_gamer | kmail-migrator(4950) main: Migration of kmailrc has already run, not running it again |
| 18:41.57 | the_gamer | great... |
| 18:42.06 | the_gamer | does that mean like all data is lost for me? |
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| 18:42.11 | the_gamer | it didn't show up |
| 18:42.19 | the_gamer | and it didn't migrate any folder or mail |
| 18:43.07 | the_gamer | please does anybody have an idea? i really need those mails |
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| 18:43.59 | the_gamer | annma, is it possible to simply copy the folder or something like that? |
| 18:44.16 | annma | ask in #kontact for more details the_gamer |
| 18:44.58 | annma | the tool is kmail-migrator |
| 18:45.10 | annma | if the accounts are there the tool probably ran |
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| 18:46.27 | the_gamer | annma, but the folders and mails are gone :(... asking there atm |
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| 19:00.12 | JackWinter | the_gamer: you should find the mail in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail |
| 19:00.28 | JackWinter | that is to say the old mail |
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| 19:01.50 | the_gamer | i know |
| 19:01.58 | the_gamer | i'm triing to import that atm |
| 19:02.16 | JackWinter | the_gamer: also just to add that kmail migration failed for me too, when i tried a few months ago, and in the end i gave up and installed an imap server instead |
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| 19:05.05 | JackWinter | akonadi_control might be an interesting program right now |
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| 19:05.30 | alex` | Hello. I want to use KDE on different machines and would like to sync the configuration. Is there a preferred way to do that? |
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| 19:50.29 | graft | is anyone up on this issue with blank spaces in the taskbar? |
| 19:54.19 | Faither | graft: what blank spaces? |
| 19:55.32 | kdepepo | graft, some say it's better in 4.7.3 |
| 19:56.03 | kbroulik | I think it was fixed a few days ago |
| 19:56.26 | Faither | guess i just wasn't affected then oO |
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| 19:58.06 | MeanderingCode | task bar meaning task manager widget? it's been driving me nuts (and not respecting my maximum rows = 1 setting)...i hope i'm hearing that it's fixed! |
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| 20:01.38 | graft | Faither: sometimes when you close windows (i think especially if there are multiple windows being collapsed into a single task item, or windows in different activities, etc.) when the window is removed it leaves behind a blank space in the taskbar, like an invisible task between items |
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| 20:31.42 | yggdrasil | hi how can i remove the activity tab from my desktop |
| 20:31.58 | yggdrasil | its kind of annoying. |
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| 20:37.58 | graft | yggdrasil: which activity tab? |
| 20:38.23 | graft | now we'll never know |
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| 20:44.08 | dijonyummy | regarding krfb, if i get a notification that a user "connected" that doesn't necessarily mean they passed authentication right? only if i can see the icon for a connected user in my panel then that means they're connected and remotely acessing my desktop? |
| 20:44.11 | kaddi | hi, is there a fix/patch for the msn-connection-issue with kopete? |
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| 20:45.34 | yggdrasil | hi how can i remove the activity tab from my desktop |
| 20:45.56 | cb400f | you can't.. but you can move it to the corner and get the old cashew back |
| 20:46.34 | cb400f | or.. if you have a non-transparent panel you can move it behind that >:-) |
| 20:47.32 | graft | hmm my gtk programs (like say eog) aren't using gtk styles for some reason |
| 20:47.41 | graft | err aren't using oxygen-gtk i mean |
| 20:48.03 | cb400f | what's eog? .. maybe it's a gtk3 app? .. oxygen-gtk3 is not released yet |
| 20:48.19 | kaddi | hi, is there a fix/patch for the msn-connection-issue with kopete? |
| 20:48.22 | cb400f | and even if it were, there's no kde tool to select gtk3 theme |
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| 20:48.49 | cb400f | I seem to be connected to msn right now (with kopete from 4.6.0) |
| 20:49.45 | kaddi | sure? Does it not just say "connecting" |
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| 20:50.19 | cb400f | it says connected.. but I don't seem to have any contacts online right now |
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| 20:51.03 | kaddi | well for me it says "connecting" (for the last 72h at least, before I don't know) and nobody is online. When I log in through web, i see people online |
| 20:51.18 | sharp15 | how do i create a taskbar shortcut specifically for kmail? currently i can only add what is in the menu and kontact would give the user i'm giving this to a headache. |
| 20:51.46 | cb400f | you don't have a menu entry for kmail (standalone)? |
| 20:51.55 | cb400f | that sounds weird |
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| 20:52.06 | cb400f | try a search |
| 20:53.59 | sharp15 | wrong search box i guess. i tried to 'add a widget' to the pannel and it couldn't find kmail. |
| 20:54.16 | cb400f | search in the menu / launcher / kickoff |
| 20:54.23 | cb400f | for kmail... then drag to the panel |
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| 20:55.08 | sharp15 | its working now. actually this user would get mad at me for giving them kickoff. classic for them. that is why i couldn't find it. |
| 20:55.14 | Faither | or open the program, right click it on task-manager > advanced add aluncher |
| 20:56.08 | cb400f | the user prefers a primitive launcher menu with no search or favourites? .. tsk, tsk :-) |
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| 20:57.31 | sharp15 | they started using the computer with Win95 and like things to be where they left them (i.e. search annoys them) |
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| 20:57.59 | yggdrasil | cb400f, thanks |
| 20:58.02 | yggdrasil | thats a little better. |
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| 20:58.15 | sharp15 | cb400f: thanks for reminding me about search. |
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| 21:08.05 | Gammma | Hi, |
| 21:08.47 | Gammma | I have just read about dibadu and I've seen kde is in position 716th |
| 21:08.52 | Abhish | I'm thinking of switching to Btrfs. benchmarks show significant improvement in randdom write speed. It seems to me that would be a boon to Akonadi which the new Kmail that I adore is based on. What do you think? |
| 21:08.58 | Gammma | How can it be? |
| 21:10.01 | kaddi | dibadu? |
| 21:10.11 | Faither | btrf doen't have fsck yet |
| 21:10.12 | kaddi | they make socks? |
| 21:10.27 | Faither | btrfs^ |
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| 21:10.50 | admiral0 | hello |
| 21:10.55 | Faither | so unless you don't want to lose date i'd stick with a different fs |
| 21:11.05 | admiral0 | i have a freeze when trying to set wallpaper |
| 21:11.09 | Gammma | kaddi look at this -> http://blogs.kde.org/node/4491 |
| 21:11.38 | Faither | Abhish: btrfs no fsck, read above |
| 21:11.57 | kaddi | lol, that's why that sounded so familar to me :P |
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| 21:14.49 | slurry | Hi all. Where could I find documentation for options in Special Window Settings? |
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| 21:18.09 | yggdrasil | can anyone recomend a cpu and ram use widget that i can put inside a panel; |
| 21:18.30 | Verge | I don't think any exist |
| 21:18.36 | yggdrasil | hmm |
| 21:18.42 | yggdrasil | the desktop ones are nice |
| 21:18.47 | Verge | yes |
| 21:18.51 | yggdrasil | exceptthat my desktops usually full of windows |
| 21:19.06 | Verge | Use dashboard |
| 21:19.08 | cb400f | you should be able to put them in the panel.. but they might not look as nice |
| 21:19.32 | Verge | Desktop / panel state is one of the most redundant features of Plasma |
| 21:19.36 | yggdrasil | oh yea they work great |
| 21:19.52 | Verge | Only the pages and window list are designed for both |
| 21:20.17 | cb400f | I used to use the system load viewer widget |
| 21:20.19 | Verge | pager* |
| 21:20.30 | cb400f | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/System+Status?content=74891 |
| 21:20.44 | Abhish | Faither: Thanks. Not a major issue for me as a home user. I wouldn't be comfortable deploying btrfs on a server yet though. I personally have never had file system problems that required me to use fsck. |
| 21:21.09 | yggdrasil | Verge, i just slapped the widget into the panel and it works just fine. |
| 21:21.38 | Abhish | I'm thinking of switching to Btrfs. Benchmarks show significant improvement in random write speed. It seems to me that would be a boon to Akonadi which the new Kmail that I adore is based on. I am not concerned too much with losing data from a filesystem problem that would need fsck.What do you think? |
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| 21:26.24 | slurry | Is there a way to configure window setting so the window will only accept focus with a mouse click? |
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| 21:32.29 | paristo | slurry: only with mouse click but not with other ways like Alt+Tab combo? |
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| 21:34.36 | slurry | paristo: yes. I have skip task bar and skip pager, but gkrellm always accepts focus if no other window is open. |
| 21:36.57 | paristo | slurry: Set rule as Accept focus -> Force -> No and it should not get focus |
| 21:38.18 | paristo | That way at least on me, I can set window to to be there, but not accessible via alt+tab or mouse, but I can click functions, like type numbers on calc with mouse. |
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| 21:40.01 | paristo | slurry: so with that trick, you could have gkrellm always top of every window and not to accept any input or focus via keyboard but react to clicks done with mouse. |
| 21:40.23 | slurry | Outstanding! Thanks. The wording of that feature is a bit misleading. Force focus sounds like it will ..."force the Focus" to that window. |
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| 21:41.17 | slurry | paristo: it did work by the way. Thanks again. |
| 21:41.54 | paristo | slurry: well the problem is the word "Yes" and "No". The "Force focus" is just like action and the Yes/No rules it. |
| 21:42.06 | slurry | wish I could understand the logic for how Force Focus actually prevents focus. |
| 21:42.23 | paristo | slurry: it has actually been improved with newer versions with the Yes/No words. As earlier it was just Enable Disable |
| 21:42.59 | slurry | Awesome. Thanks for the explaination. Looking forward to seeing the change. |
| 21:43.06 | paristo | slurry: The window does not just get focus. So none of the keyboard inputs are directed to it. As the window need to be in focus to get input, it works by that way. |
| 21:43.22 | paristo | slurry: what version you have? As the Yes/No is the current (new) way. |
| 21:43.49 | slurry | KDE Development Platform: 4.6.5 (4.6.5) |
| 21:43.49 | slurry | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:44.26 | slurry | paristo: what version was it implimented in? |
| 21:44.44 | paristo | slurry: 4.7.x |
| 21:45.20 | slurry | Ahh... should be hitting pclinuxos repos soon |
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| 21:46.43 | paristo | slurry: Sorry, I have already used to idea of rolling releases so there ain't no more long time waiting or something else. |
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| 21:47.43 | slurry | paristo: Not to beat a dead horse, but "Force" focus is saying the focus is never assumed, but must be specifically made? |
| 21:48.07 | paristo | Not exactly. |
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| 21:50.36 | paristo | slurry: http://i.imgur.com/ZIRvU.jpg |
| 21:51.28 | paristo | slurry: It is little hard to understand the logic in that but for me the YES/NO change was huge help. |
| 21:52.39 | paristo | The "Force focus" is that you can force the functionality how focus is accepted or maintained. Like "Never accept focus" or "always accept focus" if the application does not allow focus by itself. |
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| 21:53.36 | Mneumonic | Has anyone tried Fedora 16 KDE? I am curious how it compares to other KDE implementations. |
| 21:53.41 | slurry | That makes it a bit more clear. |
| 21:54.22 | paristo | Like on that screenshot. First tick is to enable the function, like "Keep above". Then second is to set how it would work and last, the yes/No rules which way the setting works. |
| 21:55.12 | paristo | slurry: Ah, the earlier version had just single tick where now is Yes / No. And it didn't even have explenation what it does. |
| 21:58.39 | slurry | paristo: Exactly. It's been like that for some time. Good to see the change |
| 21:58.48 | paristo | slurry: Like it is possible to make a application to reject all auto focus calls. So even when you open a window, it does not get focus but is placed behind the current one and you need to bring it back by yourself. |
| 21:59.02 | paristo | slurry: "some time" since 3.x :-D |
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| 21:59.26 | slurry | paristo: ;D |
| 21:59.39 | paristo | slurry: KWin is just awesome windowmanager and all the possibilities what it gives, it would need more attention. |
| 22:00.48 | slurry | paristo: I'm definitely a fan. |
| 22:01.30 | paristo | slurry: One thing what with now quick testing is impossible do, is to force specific window/application to have focus and never release it to anything else. |
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| 22:02.17 | paristo | slurry: could be fun so the user could not type anything anywhere else. And when configuring window to be in fullscreen and top of everything, it is "poor man kiosk mode" :-D |
| 22:04.31 | paristo | slurry: It just need to be carefull not to configure it with "closeable force YES" so person can actually get it off without killing it from command line |
| 22:04.37 | slurry | paristo: good for Kiosk mode for an app |
| 22:05.29 | slurry | paristo: closeable was another question. Force & the check to the right would force not closable? |
| 22:06.18 | paristo | slurry: Yes, then you could close with shortcut (Alt+F4) a window what would not otherwise be closable. |
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| 22:06.28 | paristo | or.... did the check mean it is not possible.... |
| 22:06.32 | paristo | :-D |
| 22:06.49 | paristo | I would assume the tick would mean YES. |
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| 22:07.01 | paristo | so you would force possibility to close the window. |
| 22:07.09 | slurry | paristo: looking at your screenshot and what I have the check is Yes. Just not labeled on older versions |
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| 22:09.47 | paristo | slurry: yes, so the improvement is actually very small, checkbox has been changed to selection what is by default "No" position. So it is same thing as empty on the earlier. |
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| 22:10.59 | slurry | paristo: small but very significant. Took trial and error before to figure out the the check enabled the feature. Now it's pretty clear. |
| 22:11.02 | paristo | slurry: so the user needs to read the setting in converter way. First Yes or No and then read the line. Example "Fullscreen | Force | No" would mean "No forced fullscreen" |
| 22:12.18 | paristo | slurry: By that reversed reading way it seems very logical to understand what the config does. |
| 22:12.31 | slurry | paristo: I think it could be more streamlined by putting all the options in the dropdown. 'Force' 'Do not force' etc |
| 22:12.42 | paristo | Like "Force application start minimized" with the config "Minimize | Force | Yes" |
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| 22:13.37 | slurry | yes |
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| 22:14.12 | paristo | slurry: It would but the dropdown list would come long. As every option would need to have that Yes/No function. |
| 22:14.39 | paristo | And if there is 6 options so it would be 12 from where to choose. |
| 22:17.10 | paristo | One thing what I just dont get is "Do Not Affect". like how it is different from not enabling the function at first place? :D |
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| 22:20.39 | slurry | paristo: True. In the end I think the implimentation they choose was probably best. |
| 22:20.58 | paristo | slurry: With KWin rules combinated with window behavior settings there is even more possibilities |
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| 22:21.59 | paristo | Like when configuring mouse not to pass click but just activate and raise, user can not click any non-focused window. And when having window/app like gkrellm non-focusable, user can not do anything to it. |
| 22:23.39 | paristo | I think there isn't option to actually force window to have focus all the time until closed. So window would not loose focus to other windows. |
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| 22:25.45 | Mneumonic | Do KDE Effects affect Gaming? |
| 22:26.01 | Mneumonic | I like KDE desktop effects but I get worried it will slowdown my games |
| 22:26.18 | paristo | Mneumonic: I think only when you have game in window mode and not in fullscreen. |
| 22:26.38 | paristo | Mneumonic: as card needs draw the game and desktop separately. |
| 22:26.55 | Mneumonic | So fullscreen for sure wouldn't be affected atleast? |
| 22:26.59 | Mneumonic | I play my games fullscreen mostly |
| 22:27.32 | paristo | Mneumonic: As far I know it should not affect to them. But I cant be 100% sure |
| 22:32.25 | slurry | Mneumonic: There is a setting in Desktop Effects to turn off effects for fullscreen windows. If it's not selected, effects will be applied to fullscreen windows also. |
| 22:32.50 | Mneumonic | Ah, didn't even know about that setting. I'll have to check it out. Thanks! |
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| 22:34.13 | paristo | Mneumonic: and there is setting as well in KWin window rules not to allow compositing on that window. |
| 22:35.02 | paristo | Windows specific settings > Appearance & Fixes tab -> Block compositing |
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| 22:53.26 | BarkingFish | anyone know where I can get the video preview plugin for dolphin please? |
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| 22:54.15 | paristo | BarkingFish: ffmpeg or mplayer keywords should give you start when searching from your package manager. |
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| 22:54.46 | BarkingFish | right, wasn't there one integrated into the previews in dolphin though at one point? |
| 22:54.54 | paristo | BarkingFish: Example I have "ffmpegthumbnailer" |
| 22:54.57 | BarkingFish | or would it have been an external plugin? |
| 22:55.20 | paristo | BarkingFish: The sidepanel what you mean is a dragonplayer itself. |
| 22:55.32 | BarkingFish | no, not that one. |
| 22:56.31 | BarkingFish | In dolphin's setup, there used to be a plugin where you could see a preview thumbnail of the video. I know about the external ones, which don't work properly for me. I wondered about the one which used to come in dolphin itself. |
| 22:57.21 | BarkingFish | i remember having it as a preview option when I was on Mandriva 10.1, i can't remember the name of the plugin though. |
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| 22:58.57 | paristo | BarkingFish: http://i.imgur.com/BjHAb.jpg you mean that configuration? |
| 23:00.06 | BarkingFish | i can't open web at the moment, my connection is bad. |
| 23:01.29 | Jucato | kffmpegthumbnailer (in Fedora) |
| 23:01.33 | paristo | BarkingFish: well the Dolphin > Settings > General > Previews place allows you to configure what filetypes gets previews rendered. There you have two modules, Mplayer or FFMPEG |
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| 23:02.23 | paristo | Names are "MplayerThumbs" and "ffmpegthumbs" and both gives you thumbnails for video files without dolphin sidepanel, just like images and other can have. |
| 23:03.25 | Jucato | (for some reason, doesn't seem to work for me, but maybe it will for you) |
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| 23:03.32 | paristo | And it is matter of taste which one like to use. Example I use ffmpegthumbs as it is much faster to render thumbnails first time. |
| 23:03.51 | BarkingFish | paristo: it appears from speaking to my friends in #mandriva there was a version integrated into kdelibs4 on 4.4.5 |
| 23:04.22 | Jucato | (oh wait, it was disabled heh :) |
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| 23:04.41 | paristo | BarkingFish: Only thing what I know were the dolphin sidepanel (information) what had the own small position slider and play/pause button. |
| 23:04.55 | BarkingFish | i still have that. |
| 23:06.40 | paristo | At least I have not had any video thumbnails without those two mentioned plugin. Mplayer one was first and ffmpeg got later what gave speed improvement for many. |
| 23:07.30 | paristo | (I still hope the information sidepanel would show slideshow of the video by taking snapshot every minute and going trough in 1-2 second rate) |
| 23:07.49 | paristo | (or when hovering mouse over video file it would happend as well) |
| 23:07.57 | BarkingFish | well I distinctly remember having the video thumbnails without having to install plugins from elsewhere to get them. |
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| 23:08.16 | paristo | BarkingFish: Depends from your distributor did they enable it by default. |
| 23:08.21 | solidus-river | how am i supposed to use wireless in kde4 |
| 23:08.26 | BarkingFish | And as I've been told, that was 4.4.5, so some time ago considering I'm now going up to 4.7.3 when I get off tonight :) |
| 23:08.32 | paristo | BarkingFish: Like Mandriva has done many such neat things for the user by default. |
| 23:08.41 | solidus-river | this is kind of ridiculouse, i cant find any wireless config setting, but i know that knetworkmanager is not the default anymore? |
| 23:08.48 | paristo | solidus-river: what you mean? |
| 23:09.06 | solidus-river | paristo: i mean i have a clean install of kde, and i cant find out how to connect to a wireless network with it |
| 23:09.11 | BarkingFish | paristo: I don't know. I'll speak to our distro developers channel. |
| 23:09.12 | solidus-river | my wan card is on |
| 23:09.24 | paristo | solidus-river: knetworkmanager is default, but if it ain't in systray, check systemtray settings is it enabled there. |
| 23:10.14 | solidus-river | paristo: i dont have knetworkmanager and its not available in my package management system... gentoo |
| 23:10.15 | paristo | solidus-river: right click systray (up arrow) -> System Tray Options -> Display -> Network Management |
| 23:10.50 | paristo | solidus-river: Then you have problem as you need to install knetworkmanager to get it. Otherwise you need to use wicd from commandline or other. |
| 23:11.07 | paristo | solidus-river: have you searched just by "networkmanager" name? |
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| 23:11.57 | solidus-river | paristo: yeah, i have networkmanager installed, but thats a boot service |
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| 23:12.19 | paristo | solidus-river: I dont know about gentoo naming schema but it should be there. |
| 23:12.48 | BarkingFish | solidus-river: iirc network manager is a plasmoid you can add to your system tray :) |
| 23:13.19 | paristo | solidus-river: try this "kdeplasma-applets-networkmanagement" |
| 23:13.43 | BarkingFish | right click on your panel, click panel options / Add widgets and you'll find the plasma widget in the list in there. If it's not there, do what paristo says above :) |
| 23:13.45 | paristo | solidus-river: knowing gentoo, you can be left without such important packages what comes with other distros. |
| 23:14.29 | BarkingFish | if you don't have it, you may need to install it |
| 23:15.04 | paristo | And after install, it needs to be enabled to system tray (unless wanted to be in own widget on panel or desktop) |
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| 23:17.57 | solidus-river | paristo: upstream renamed knetworkmanager to networkmanagement |
| 23:18.01 | solidus-river | this is a horrible horrible change |
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| 23:18.13 | solidus-river | if i'm looking for a networkmanager, i'm going to search networkmanager |
| 23:18.17 | solidus-river | that excludes this new name |
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| 23:18.27 | solidus-river | oy |
| 23:18.27 | paristo | solidus-river: Are you sure it was upstream? |
| 23:18.40 | solidus-river | yeah, just checked with gentoo devs, but they could be wrong as well |
| 23:18.47 | paristo | solidus-river: I use arch linux and it does not change upstream package namings and it is what I said. |
| 23:18.55 | solidus-river | hmm |
| 23:18.59 | solidus-river | i'll do some more research |
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| 23:19.53 | paristo | http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement#NetworkManager |
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| 23:21.48 | pinotree | solidus-river: the project name is networkmanagement, yes |
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| 23:22.09 | yggdrasil | i have to admin, gnome wouldnt run 2 monitors with this hardware and kde managed to do it, jsut an old dell laptop on the dock. |
| 23:22.14 | yggdrasil | so thats pretty awesome. |
| 23:22.22 | yggdrasil | Pinotree wasup |
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| 23:24.04 | solidus-river | pinotree: why would the project break the norm for naming conventions, it just makes them harder to find |
| 23:24.31 | paristo | solidus-river: to make name correct? |
| 23:24.38 | solidus-river | pinotree: i know it's nitpicky, but i think its a bad practice, your project name should describe your projects function and should adhere to any naming conventions set down by similar projects |
| 23:24.54 | pinotree | solidus-river: a name is a name, not an explanation |
| 23:25.01 | paristo | solidus-river: In kde3 the name was knetworkmanager as it was app, today, it is a widget. |
| 23:25.31 | paristo | solidus-river: So now the frontend belongs to same group as every other plasma widget. |
| 23:25.31 | pinotree | solidus-river: if `$PACKAGEMANAGER search networkmanager` of your distro does not find the plasma widget, i'd argue it's a problem of your distribution |
| 23:25.32 | solidus-river | pinotree: do you want a world where libraries are named like the new ruby / python libraries "deconstructionizor" |
| 23:25.37 | solidus-river | oh i know exactly what that library does |
| 23:25.39 | solidus-river | the name says it all |
| 23:25.51 | solidus-river | if i ever want to code something that deconstructionizes.. i'll know where to look |
| 23:25.57 | solidus-river | but i dont want to rant on irc |
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| 23:26.56 | paristo | solidus-river: We live in the digital world where we have alternatives, so when alternatives are different from each other, we need to understand we can not even name same things with same way when they work in different way on alternatives. :-D |
| 23:27.19 | paristo | So basicly, OS X and Windows users can be happy that they dont have alternatives :-D |
| 23:27.24 | paristo | Oh wait.... ;) |
| 23:29.46 | solidus-river | paristo: lol |
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| 23:42.47 | GungaDin | I've downloaded new themes but I can't seem to be able to find them in any list so I can set them. |
| 23:42.54 | GungaDin | any ideas how to set a new downloaded theme? |
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