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00:09.16yggdrasilok i jsut switched from gnome to kde ... what do i need to know ?
00:09.19yggdrasilits very different
00:11.02DrCherryhow can I figure out what device my wireless is?  It's not under /dev/wlan0 as expected.  Running xubuntu
00:11.17DrCherrywhoops wrong channel sorry
00:12.13yggdrasiliwconfig ?
00:12.38BarkingFishDrCherry, drop to a terminal, and type iwconfig
00:13.18BarkingFishIf you're using an Atheros wifi device, you'll probably see it as Ath0 or something like that if it's not coming up as wlan0
00:13.33DrCherrywlan0
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00:13.43DrCherryand that's exactly what it is.
00:13.50DrCherrythe little Acer Aspire
00:14.21DrCherryno Ath0 either I'm stumped
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00:17.39yggdrasilso you see wlan0 ?
00:17.50yggdrasilthats your wireless adapter
00:18.03yggdrasiland it sounds cooler if you say
00:18.17yggdrasileh - daptor
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00:23.09SiosmHi, maybe that's a silly question, but why is dolphin telling me empty folders have one element ?
00:23.39yggdrasilhidden ?
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00:26.05Siosmyggdrasil > No, just create an empty dolphin folder, you still get one element
00:27.20yggdrasilhmm
00:27.24yggdrasilgoogle it
00:27.25yggdrasilnot sure
00:28.37Siosmwell I couldn't find anything on google, seems to be only KDE related as it isn't reproduceable with qtcreator for example.
00:33.48Siosmyggdrasil> How does it look for you ? does empty folders have one elements ? I found a bug report, I'm gonna give some info
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04:08.54AegNuddelknotify keeps crashing ....
04:09.40AegNuddelI'm on mint
04:12.53AegNuddeldont know what kde version but did just update
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05:08.30vehemothhow do I found out the name of a widget? because it doesn't match the title under 'add widget'
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05:11.08Sho_vehemoth: which widget?
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05:11.58vehemoththe menu for now will do, but I might need to know some others later. Thanks
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05:16.28Sho_vehemoth: "launcher"
05:17.34vehemoththank you
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05:36.08vehemothwhen running launcher under plasma-windowed --noborder it has an odd transparent border around the menu which isn't there when -b is used, can I disable that?
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05:41.53vehemothI would use the -b option but it doesn't support tranparency
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07:49.56john32hmm, pinentry doesn't seem to come up for Kmail (when sending encrypted outgoing email or trying to read encrypted email) but it does see to work in thunderbird
07:50.05john32is there a possible cause for this?
07:52.33john32o.O for some reason gpg-agent isn't running
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08:10.59john32hmm i guess ill have to stick with thunderbird for a while longer bug 279749 is a real show stopper
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08:45.57CrrustY_hi to all
08:46.37CrrustY_how can i use ctrl+shift for keyboard layout changing and ctrl+shift+z (for example) at the same time?
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10:36.26Frogbarfi updated to kmail2 and it crashes at startup with the error  "Kmail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was "Failed to fetch the resource collection." I also see a window asking for me to provide personal date for my imap connection.
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11:17.46chetnickmy weather widget is misbehaving. It's kind of stretched out. http://i.imgur.com/Ow59O.jpg
11:17.55chetnickIt was working fine until recently. Have not clue what might caused it (other than my girlfriend using the computer)
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11:38.34aseigochetnick: probably something else moved / removed from the panel, or also grew and so the weather applet was given more room... perhaps just a symptom rather than a disease :) have you tried removing the existing weather widget and putting a new one there?
11:39.10chetnickaseigo: of course. That didn't help.
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11:39.25chetnickTried moving around, still nothing.
11:39.36chetnickDidn't see any possibility of resizing.
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11:40.52aseigochetnick: can you post a snapshot of your whole panel?
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11:47.14chetnickaseigo: removing panel and crating new one solved problem.
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12:49.42vidarloIs this the appropriate place for a question about network manager plasmaoid and Things Not Working(TM)?
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12:58.11FrogbarfI updated to kde4.7 containing kmail2 and now is crashes on startup
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12:59.37vidarloFrogbarf: kmail2 crashes, or kde crashes?
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13:02.05Frogbarfvidarlo:  kmail2 crashes with the error "Kmail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was "Failed to fetch the resource collection""
13:02.17Frogbarfit happens even for new users
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13:05.06wedjathi guys
13:05.43wedjati'm running the last KDE version, and i'm facing a strange bug : i cannot go to the "Printer Configuration" menu, it says "The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py' The factory does not support creating components of the specified type."
13:07.30wedjati've added myself to the lp group and added it to the cupsd.conf file
13:07.36wedjatbut it still doesn't work
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13:16.43nabukadnezar43hello, i installed an icon theme but it didnt change the view of folders but it did change the view of applications and system icons
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13:17.08nabukadnezar43the icon set has a set for places so what may be the problem?
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13:18.07nabukadnezar43it's called KFaenza: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KFaenza?content=143890
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13:24.29stuk_genhi all :)
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13:24.40stuk_gencan i ask some question about qdbus here?
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13:32.38rotflcopterhi
13:32.41rotflcopterand what are these?
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13:33.06rotflcopter...
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13:34.19rotflcoptersome spyware?
13:34.33rotflcopterresource hogger?
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13:35.08pinotreerotflcopter: nepomuk stuff, should be harmless
13:35.39rotflcopteri'd really like no software accessing nothing outside localhost if its not needed
13:36.14rotflcopterand writing filter list for dns blacklist and squid blocklist
13:36.27pinotreeuh?
13:36.48pinotreethose are not real urls
13:37.00rotflcopterjust saw in logs so i was wondering
13:37.41rotflcopterand plasma-desktop has eaten 40% memory again (from 5GB)
13:38.01rotflcoptera few days and it does this
13:38.27rotflcopterbest to not free after allocate
13:38.39rotflcopterthat is way too cool
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13:52.47stuk_gensomebody have read this http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Intermediate_D-Bus?
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14:05.02nwokiwhere can i talk to the kmail guys?
14:05.26nwokii get this bug from kmail "Sending succeeded, but failed to finalize message. Unknown error. (No items found)"
14:05.33nwokiand it's quite annoying
14:05.49spider-marioI think it’s #kontact
14:06.07nwokithanks spider-mario
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15:37.33FrogbarfHow do I get my imap folders to appear in kmail2?
15:37.45FrogbarfI only see my local folders
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15:42.45atriushello all
15:43.13atriusis there any way to get KDE apps to ask for a username/password when printing to a SMB shared printer?
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16:15.40recenttlooks like I was disconnected, so I did see the channel comments
16:15.51recentttrying again...
16:15.59recentthi, is there any way to increase the number of recent documents at the kde menu? It only shows 10 entries. I don't see any option to do it in my ".kde/share/config/kickoffrc" file. (kde 4.6.5, fedora 15)
16:17.44recenttI found this thread, that talks on the same thing: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/KDE/2009-09/msg00064.html
16:18.12recenttit is 2 years old. Perhaps is has already been implemented
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16:20.02recenttrdieter: are you online?
16:20.11rdieterrecentt: hi
16:20.28recentthi
16:20.52recenttdo you know something on the recent documents stuff?
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16:21.33rdieterrecentt: sorry, no.  I don't think the situation has changed
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16:22.02recentt:(. Well, thanks anyway :)
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16:39.21FrogbarfAre there supposed to be no imap folders under kmail2_
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16:45.15niladrihello
16:45.18niladrianyone?
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16:50.22FrogbarfIs this kmail2 still in beta?
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17:05.49teprrrhi there, any ideas what I'm missing when trying to open desktop search settings/kcm_nepomuk just gives me "the nepomuk installation is not complete. no desktop search settings can be provided."?
17:06.06teprrrand where should I start trying to figure out the cause?
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17:08.04teprrrhttp://fpaste.org/2ShD/ ahh, it doesn't find virtuoso for some reason...
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17:13.31teprrrprefix/lib/soprano/ has libsoprano_virtuosobackend.so though. mmh
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17:35.36teprrrhttp://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=97022 this is precisely the same problem I'm having :p
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17:37.46anoopwhenever I hover mouse over a pdf file the crash handler pops up with message kfilemetadatareader aborted
17:38.19anoopKDE version is 4.7.2
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17:39.47teprrrah, /usr/lib64 wasn't in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.. that fixed it :P
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17:58.41cordellwhen changing the brightness on my laptop via the hardware keys, KDE changes the brightness from level 15(max) - 13 - 10 - 6 - 3 - 0(min), instead of 15 to 0 sequentially. How do i go about changing to the latter?
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18:08.23Frogbarffound the problem. It seems that kmail2 freezes when trying to search for folder when checking for serverside subscriptions. Is there a way to manually add subcribed folders?
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18:08.48FrogbarfIf there are too many folders it locks up
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18:11.54thiagotelnet into the server, log in and subscribe to the folder
18:12.05Frogbarfi can ssh
18:12.13Frogbarfwhat is the command to subscribe?
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18:12.26FrogbarfUnder Thunderbird the folders are already subscribed to
18:13.10Frogbarfwith kmail2 the server does not even appear.  I have come to realize it's because there are too many folders/files on the server that it's conneting too
18:13.21Frogbarfit worked with the  old version of kmail
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18:17.28thiagoFrogbarf: the command is SUBSCRIBE
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18:17.46thiagoFrogbarf: use telnet, not ssh
18:17.50thiagoFrogbarf: telnet to the IMAP port
18:19.02Frogbarfit's imaps
18:19.10thiagothen openssl s_client
18:19.14thiagoor gnutls-client
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18:28.56Frogbarflooks like I am already subscribed
18:28.57Frogbarfa NO Already subscribed to mailbox INBOX
18:29.20Frogbarfso kmail just doesn't like too many direcories
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18:32.35MystKidhello all
18:32.41MystKiddoes amarok support song rating
18:32.45MystKidi can see any sarts
18:32.47MystKidstars+
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18:33.38spider-mariodon’t you need nepomuk for that?
18:34.29mcsmurfhi, I'm not sure if my question is in the right place here, I have a problem with Kile (Kubuntu 10.04, KDE 4.4.5)
18:35.24mcsmurfI wanted to use the new texlive version, so I installed the new version manually (without package manager) and included it in the path via /etc/profile.d script
18:35.48MystKidnepomuk for song rating
18:35.55mcsmurf"which pdflatex" in KDE console now lists the new version, but Kile still launches the old pdflatex
18:36.10mcsmurfI wonder why, does Kile not use the normal $PATH env?
18:36.21MystKid?
18:38.24spider-marionot sure about that
18:38.33spider-marioyou might want to check kile’s settings
18:38.41spider-mariopdflatex’s absolute path may be defined there
18:38.55mcsmurfnope, but I "solved" it that way now
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18:39.16mcsmurfsetting the absolute path to the new version (before it just launched "pdflatex")
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18:40.26sfire||mousemcsmurf: had you logged out, and logged back in?
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18:43.18mcsmurfyes, even tried rebooting
18:44.12mcsmurfas I was not sure if changes in /etc/profile.d need a reboot (as in what is the parent process of Kile, I'm not a linux expert)
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18:44.33sfire||mouseI wasn't either :)
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18:53.43mcsmurfah https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204397
18:53.45mcsmurf"Bug 204397 - PATH variable not used for running programs (like pdflatex) "
18:54.01mcsmurfFIXED now, so maybe my kile version is just too old
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18:55.14krikokate went into vi mode. How do I get out of it?
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19:11.06vLassikriko: Meta+ctrl+V
19:11.32krikoI knew I've pressed something weird, thanks!
19:12.09vLassino prob
19:12.30vLassiyou can disable it also from the settings
19:12.58vLassisett->config->editing->vi..
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19:17.06boombatoweranyone know if anyone is planning to use skypekit to add skype support to a kde client? like kopete seems to require skype to be running which sounds different then skypekit or am I mistaken?
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19:31.48MaximLevitskyI have annoying kwin problem: everytime I start dolphin, its vertically maximized
19:32.10MaximLevitskyno matter how small I resize it, it starts maximized again
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19:37.54MaximLevitskyany idea how to fix that?
19:38.47cb400fnot really.. you could try nuking the config file
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19:38.52vLassiMaximLevitsky: middle-click on the maximize button and close the window?
19:38.57cb400for set a kwin rule to force a certain size
19:39.23itwentyHow can I install kde icon set manually w/o using System Settings?
19:39.25haakonncheck window-specific settings
19:39.29MaximLevitskyvLassi: awesome
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19:39.51MaximLevitskyvLassi: do you know where kwin keep its database of window sizes?
19:40.25vLassiMaximLevitsky: dunno, sorry
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19:41.02MaximLevitskyvLassi: no problem, thanks a million
19:41.10cb400fthere seems to be some window geometry in my dolphinrc
19:41.28vLassiyeah, I would guess it is in app specific files, but not sure
19:41.31cb400fso I would think dolphin remembers the stuff itself
19:41.32vLassiMaximLevitsky: no prob
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19:54.12boombatoweranyone review http://drupal.org/node/1153072
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20:04.56pinotreeboombatower: wrong channel?
20:05.02boombatowerwoops
20:05.03boombatowerthx
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20:28.29Catz123when I search in krunner I get these Nepomuk resource identifiers instead of the name of what I'm searching for, like for example nepomuk:/res/23asfgkl34jk2-3453-sdfgs-234234 etc
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20:28.53Catz123What is going on/ can I change it to something more human readable?
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21:27.17MystKidhas anyone got to work the hardware temp widget in kde?
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21:33.42spider-mariowell, surprisingly, it worked out of the box on a machine where I installed it
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21:34.18spider-marioit even set up lm-sensors
21:34.24spider-marioI have no idea how it did that
21:35.46MystKidi got lm-sesnors
21:36.05MystKidit reports temps there but not on the widget
21:37.30spider-mariothe widget might need the daemon
21:38.50MystKidwhat daemon
21:39.02spider-mariolm-sensors has a daemon
21:39.22spider-mario(well, actually 2, I don’t get the difference between them)
21:40.08MystKidi dont ahve the lm_sensors config
21:40.14MystKidit ownt let me start teh daemon
21:40.54spider-marioconfiguration is done via sensors-detect
21:41.04MystKidit doesnt get written
21:41.25MystKidin waht folder does it write the config file
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21:42.21spider-mario/etc/conf.d/lm_sensors
21:42.28spider-marioat least on arch
21:42.57MystKidshould be same in gentoo
21:43.14MystKidUnloading i2c-i801... failed
21:43.21MystKidat senosrs-detect
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22:22.22MystKidi tryed starting the lm-sensors daemon but the hw monitor widget still deosnt show anything
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22:39.14mparodiHello there!
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22:39.56mparodiI'm having problems to write áéíóú in KDE applications (dolphin, konsole, yakuake, etc). I can use them perfectly well in any other application like XChat. how can I fix it?
22:40.01mparodiI need them to write in Spanish
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22:40.23thiagowhat's your locale?
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22:41.31mparodithiago, I have found the locale is for english, but I can't change it since I want to have the system in English, can I?
22:41.53thiago"English" is not a locale
22:41.55thiagowhat is the locale?
22:42.03thiagoen_US or en_US.UTF-8?
22:42.23mparodiI mean, it says en_US.UTF-8
22:42.46thiagorun xev and press the first key of the combination
22:42.59thiagodo you see this line:
22:42.59thiago<PROTECTED>
22:44.29mparodino, this one instead:
22:44.30mparodi<PROTECTED>
22:44.37thiagosimilar enough
22:44.51thiagoif you press that key, what happens? nothing, or does it print ' ?
22:44.54thiagoor ´ ?
22:45.30mparodiit prints ´
22:45.39mparodifor example, ´a
22:45.53mparodithe problem is that ´ doesn't wait until I hit the second key
22:46.32thiagoI've seen this problem
22:46.42thiagoif you Alt+Tab to another program and back, it still happens?
22:46.59mparodiyep
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22:48.28mparodiI'm back, it crashed -.-
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22:49.35mparodithiago, is there a way to change the locale to es_ES and to have the system in English at the same time?
22:49.51thiagoit's not a locale problem, sorry
22:50.05mparodiI see
22:50.07thiagoI've seen this problem, but I don't have a 100% solution
22:50.13thiagoit usually just disappears for me
22:52.02mparodihm, ok, don't worry. thanks!
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