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| 00:21.53 | skierpage | I have a ~/.strigi with 464 MB in clucene, but it hasn't been updated since 2010-08-09. |
| 00:22.52 | skierpage | nepomuk and strigi are enabled according to System Settings > Desktop Search , how do I tell if they're working? |
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| 07:52.57 | Sceak | How does one start kde4 in freebsd? |
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| 08:02.42 | llstonerll | does running startkde from the command line not work? |
| 08:03.04 | lazyfox | anyone know how to change the default umask for kde? permissions are right for files created in bash, but not right in dolphin |
| 08:03.59 | thiago | lazyfox: set the umask before starting KDE |
| 08:04.35 | lazyfox | I'm using kdm - how would I go about doing that? ~/.xinitrc, ~/.xsession, and ~/.profile haven't worked so far |
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| 08:08.36 | lazyfox | going to try something else. later. |
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| 08:35.44 | nesuno | Hi! When I set aliases in .bashrc, how can I utilise this from krunner? |
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| 08:44.51 | thiago | nesuno: you can't |
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| 08:45.24 | nesuno | thiago: and how can configure alisaes for krunner? |
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| 09:02.50 | jschall | is there a way to get automatic transcoding in amarok when transferring to a portable music device? |
| 09:03.28 | thiago | yes |
| 09:04.05 | thiago | that's how I converted my ripped Beatles collection from Ogg to MP3 |
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| 09:25.20 | Trashi | hi guys. i try to configure the message indicator in kde. i use thunderbird and pidgin. after any tests there is pidgin available now. but thunderbird is not. if i get a message the small message indicator letter doesnt change the color. in general, it doesnt tell me if a new message comes in or s.th. like that. maybe someone knows a good documentation to configure this plugin. i found some sites which told me its the same way like with the gnom |
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| 09:49.17 | ilm | hi, can I configure the nfs mount options of the nfs kioslave somehow ? (opensuse 11.4 tumbleweed, kde 4.6.5) ? |
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| 10:02.31 | Trashi | ok, i find out that the default kde message indicator cannot work with thunderbird/pidgin. does anybody know a nice alternative message indicator for kde? |
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| 10:16.16 | Trashi | does anybody know a message indicator that works with thunderbird and pidgin? |
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| 10:29.18 | Skye | Is there a way to display an application on all activities by default? |
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| 12:46.42 | anonissimus | I have this problem that when I select opengl as compositing type for my windows effects that my monitors won't turn on again |
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| 14:18.53 | anonissimus | I am still experiencing this issue: |
| 14:18.56 | anonissimus | I have this problem that when I select opengl as compositing type for my windows effects that my monitors won't turn on again |
| 14:19.20 | tangedyn | need a bit of help, was trying to setup multimonitors but now all my applications are outside of the two monitors i have, i can't find a way to move them back to the primary window |
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| 14:19.38 | anonissimus | tangedyn: try crolling on an empty monitor |
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| 14:20.39 | anonissimus | scrolling |
| 14:21.21 | tangedyn | using the mouse scroll wheel? nothing happened... now i lost my taskbar too :/ |
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| 14:22.57 | tangedyn | when i alt-tab i can see my windows and several taskbar panels, but when i release alt-tab they disappear, presumably off-screen |
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| 14:32.28 | James147 | tangedyn: try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc aand restarting plasma |
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| 14:35.50 | do0ob | Hi |
| 14:36.06 | ssal | whats up |
| 14:36.11 | do0ob | When you select a wallpaper does kde take that wallpaper and store it somewhere in ~/.kde? |
| 14:36.40 | do0ob | if it does then i was thinking of writing a splash screen which uses their wallpaper from ~/.kde |
| 14:36.45 | do0ob | what do you think? good idea isn't it |
| 14:37.01 | do0ob | it just occured to me that the kde splash would be a lot nicer if it actually used my wallpaper |
| 14:37.08 | ssal | all i know wallpapers are in ~/.kde4/share/wallpapers |
| 14:39.53 | Verge | do0ob: I think the path isn't static |
| 14:40.06 | Verge | The directory for wallpapers might be but the name changes |
| 14:40.15 | Verge | So you would have to use a script of some sort |
| 14:40.25 | Verge | I don't think Ksplash supports scripting |
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| 14:41.03 | do0ob | aww |
| 14:41.23 | Verge | But there are utilities at kde-look.org with which you can generate a new theme for both GDM and Ksplash based on your Plasma theme |
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| 14:41.43 | do0ob | Verge: i was thinking of editing ksplash's source and adding a 'Use desktop wallpaper as splash background' option |
| 14:41.58 | Verge | Go for it |
| 14:42.08 | Verge | I would like such a feature if it works well |
| 14:42.15 | Verge | Though I'm not a KDE user anymore |
| 14:42.19 | Verge | Dunno for how long |
| 14:42.26 | Verge | Gnome 3.2 rocks |
| 14:42.27 | do0ob | what are you going to use? |
| 14:43.26 | tangedyn | James147: thanks i sort of fixed this by getting to run amdcccle |
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| 14:50.23 | scummos | Verge: oh, can you minimize windows now again? |
| 14:51.23 | Verge | That's never been impossible |
| 14:51.36 | Verge | But I don't do that |
| 14:51.42 | Verge | It's useless |
| 14:53.35 | scummos | well, the default window decoration doesn't provide a minimize button |
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| 14:53.49 | Verge | It does |
| 14:53.58 | Mogger | do0ob: something to keep in mind if you implement such option: the wallpaper depends on your current activity |
| 14:54.04 | Verge | Just not enabled by default |
| 14:54.37 | scummos | that's exactly what i said, no? ;P |
| 14:54.50 | scummos | nvm |
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| 14:56.08 | scummos | somehow I don't get the concept of not being a tiling window manager and not using minimize a lot |
| 14:56.15 | scummos | i tried it, it didn't work for me |
| 14:57.11 | Mogger | doesn't use minimize either |
| 14:58.09 | Mogger | the window I use is on the top, why would I want to minimize a window? |
| 14:58.27 | scummos | because my screen is too large for one window |
| 14:58.49 | scummos | i mean, i don't want my irc client to take the whole screen, there's more windows visible |
| 14:59.25 | Mogger | yep, but if I don't want to use IRC anymore, I just switch to Firefox or whatever window I want |
| 14:59.32 | Mogger | no need to minimize the irc client |
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| 15:00.24 | Mogger | the only reason I can see for minimize is if you want to hide a window quickly (e.g. if your boss walks behind you..) |
| 15:00.49 | scummos | okay, assume I have kate and a filemanager open, then I look something up in firefox, and now i want kate and the filemanager again |
| 15:00.50 | thiago | it's equally fast to select another window |
| 15:00.57 | thiago | I prefer to have an uncluttered desktop |
| 15:01.02 | scummos | yes, if only using one window at once |
| 15:02.02 | Mogger | scummos: ok, then I can see why you would need it. I personally use virtual desktops for such cases |
| 15:02.33 | scummos | hm, yeah... but except in awesome, I find virtual desktops too much overhead for some reason |
| 15:02.50 | scummos | my main issue is that I don't see any reason to remove the button xD |
| 15:02.55 | scummos | i mean, that space is unused anyways |
| 15:03.09 | Mogger | hehe, actually I have kept that button because I'm used to it.. |
| 15:03.37 | scummos | waits for better tiling in kwin |
| 15:03.41 | scummos | it's pretty nice already |
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| 15:04.25 | Mogger | I've thought about switich to a tiling window manager for a while, but my workflow works pretty well with KWin already |
| 15:04.45 | Mogger | shame that tiling in KWin doesn't support dual monitors |
| 15:04.58 | thiago | it supports dual monitors |
| 15:05.00 | scummos | it's still pretty basic |
| 15:05.05 | thiago | looks at both monitors he's using |
| 15:05.17 | thiago | unless my eyes have been deceiving me for 4 years, of course |
| 15:05.24 | Verge | scummos: Basic in what way? |
| 15:05.52 | Alantas | Alt + mouse-fu gets my windows to go where I want. |
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| 15:05.57 | Verge | I think the only missing thing is supporting default display |
| 15:06.01 | Mogger | thiago: really? last time I tried it didn't work here at all (TwinView, I think it was 4.6) |
| 15:06.14 | thiago | Mogger: twinview has been working since at least 4.1 betas |
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| 15:06.22 | Verge | Booting with two or more displays makes the "default screen" change from :0.0 |
| 15:06.25 | anonissimus | anyone here who knows what part of kde manages the power settings |
| 15:06.25 | mgraesslin | twinview + tiling |
| 15:06.30 | scummos | Verge: it only has like 2 layouts, and for me it was pretty buggy too |
| 15:06.35 | Mogger | oO |
| 15:06.41 | Verge | So the first window opened doesn't open on the primary display |
| 15:06.43 | Mogger | have to try that again then :) |
| 15:06.45 | Verge | Which is stupid |
| 15:06.48 | thiago | anonissimus: powerdevil |
| 15:06.58 | thiago | Verge: both monitors are :0.0 |
| 15:07.10 | Verge | thiago: whatever the identifier is |
| 15:07.11 | anonissimus | the problem is that my monitors don't come up after inactivity |
| 15:07.11 | thiago | Verge: it's multiple monitors in the same X screen |
| 15:07.14 | Mogger | hey mgraesslin, thanks for posting that screensaver topic to the forums |
| 15:07.25 | scummos | mgraesslin: do you have a highlight on kwin? ;D |
| 15:07.36 | mgraesslin | scummos: of course I have :-) |
| 15:07.37 | thiago | Verge: they open in the correct monitor here -- the monitor where the mouse is in |
| 15:07.38 | scummos | *g |
| 15:07.56 | tangent3 | sounds like someone having the same problem that i'm having? i have a 1280x1024 monitor on the left and 1920x1200 monitor on the right, i've set the larger monitor as my primary display, but every new application i open gets opened on the smaller display on the left |
| 15:08.04 | Verge | thiago: If I have a totally empty desktop and I click on the plasma desktop of the secondary display, then open an app, the app goes to the secondary display |
| 15:08.15 | Verge | Position of the mouse cursor is irrelevant |
| 15:08.23 | Verge | 100-% reproducible |
| 15:08.30 | thiago | Verge: isn't that expected? |
| 15:08.42 | thiago | Verge: if you clicked on the secondary display, the mouse is in the secondary display, so it opens there |
| 15:08.56 | Verge | thiago: read: position of the mouse cursor is irrelevant |
| 15:09.09 | thiago | Verge: you cannot click on the secondary display from the primary display |
| 15:09.13 | thiago | Verge: so the position is very relevant |
| 15:09.35 | Verge | Why do you think I can't move the cursor to another display before launching an app? |
| 15:09.46 | thiago | Verge: did you mean to say "when I launch an application in any way, from any display, it opens on the secondary display" ? |
| 15:10.01 | Verge | I meant what I said |
| 15:10.07 | Mogger | thiago: tiling is still buggy here, it seems to only tile on one monitor |
| 15:10.08 | Verge | I have Docky on the primary display |
| 15:10.23 | Verge | I launch some app using Docky -> it goes to the secondary display |
| 15:10.27 | thiago | Verge: because it's impossible to release the mouse button on the secondary screen if the mouse cursor is in the primary screen |
| 15:10.34 | Verge | I click the desktop of the primary display -> app goes to primary display |
| 15:10.48 | thiago | Verge: if the mouse cursor is in the secondary screen, it's not in the primary monitor |
| 15:10.57 | Verge | thiago: "release" |
| 15:11.01 | thiago | Verge: yes |
| 15:11.02 | Verge | + ? |
| 15:11.10 | Verge | Click is a combination of both press and release |
| 15:11.11 | thiago | Verge: click = press + release while still in the target area |
| 15:11.25 | Verge | I know |
| 15:11.43 | thiago | Verge: so if you clicked somewhere on the secondary display, you're on the secondary display |
| 15:11.45 | Verge | And I don't therefore know what is ambiguous in this |
| 15:11.58 | Verge | thiago: That's what I have been saying all this time |
| 15:12.02 | thiago | Verge: if the app appears on the secondary display, it looks correct to me |
| 15:12.21 | Verge | It is probably "expected behaviour" in the sense that it works like some designed it to work |
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| 15:12.30 | thiago | yes |
| 15:12.34 | Verge | But it's broken in the sense that straight from boot the apps open up on the wrong display |
| 15:12.52 | thiago | apps loaded from the saved session appear where they were before |
| 15:12.55 | Verge | Because the desktop of the secondary display is considered active after login |
| 15:13.02 | Verge | I don't save session |
| 15:13.02 | thiago | apps started via other means will appear where the mouse cursor is |
| 15:13.06 | Verge | nope |
| 15:13.35 | Verge | I log in and never click on anything and keep the cursor on the primary display -> app opens to the secondary display |
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| 15:13.53 | thiago | and you don't move the cursor at all? |
| 15:14.01 | Verge | I might |
| 15:14.06 | thiago | so the cursor is and has always been in the primary display? |
| 15:14.12 | Verge | Do not recall of each and every use-case of mine |
| 15:14.16 | Verge | yes |
| 15:14.28 | thiago | that does look like a bug |
| 15:14.42 | Verge | I think it's because the secondary display's desktop is loaded after the primary one |
| 15:14.47 | thiago | is your secondary display to the left of the primary? |
| 15:14.50 | Verge | So it's considered the active window or display or whatever |
| 15:14.53 | Verge | Right |
| 15:14.59 | thiago | I've never seen that |
| 15:14.59 | Verge | Right side |
| 15:15.09 | thiago | I've always have the primary to the left and secondary to the right |
| 15:15.23 | thiago | and I've been using twinview with kwin for years |
| 15:15.35 | Verge | It's annoying because I don't keep the secondary display powered up usually |
| 15:15.39 | Verge | it's only for programming stuff |
| 15:16.08 | thiago | I've seen it get lost and all applications appear on the same monitor |
| 15:16.12 | thiago | same virtual desktop even |
| 15:16.17 | thiago | but it has always been the primary |
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| 15:19.11 | Mogger | Verge: I also have the primary to the right |
| 15:19.22 | thiago | Mogger: we have primary to the left |
| 15:19.30 | Verge | Mogger: what thiago said |
| 15:19.52 | Mogger | oh, seems I can't read |
| 15:20.24 | thiago | Mogger: but if you have it to the right and still can't see the problem Verge is describing, it's likely that multiple displays or the positioning of them isn't the cause |
| 15:20.29 | thiago | it's probably something else |
| 15:21.00 | thiago | Verge: you know, some applications force their position. It's bad practice and I think we've got rid of them in KDE, but there may still be a few. |
| 15:21.13 | Verge | It's about any app |
| 15:21.16 | thiago | Verge: check if it's always the same app that appears at a particular position |
| 15:21.16 | thiago | ok |
| 15:21.17 | Verge | Konsole, Kmail, Kopete |
| 15:21.36 | thiago | uh... konsole and kopete remember its position |
| 15:21.39 | thiago | their |
| 15:21.49 | thiago | it should be where you last left them |
| 15:22.24 | Mogger | thiago: at least konsole follows the display where my mouse is |
| 15:22.39 | Verge | I can't promise I'm sure but I don't think it's about that |
| 15:23.00 | Verge | I have forced Konsole size anyways because the Kwin behaviour is broken |
| 15:23.11 | Verge | It forgets the size of windows when they are vertically maximised when closed |
| 15:23.38 | Mogger | Verge: I'm not sure I understand your problem. apps are launched on the secordary display regardless of where you mouse is? |
| 15:23.40 | thiago | that's not kwin, that's kdelibs |
| 15:23.53 | Verge | Mogger: After login, yes |
| 15:24.03 | Verge | Unless I click on the primary display's desktop |
| 15:24.10 | Verge | Then the windows open on primary display |
| 15:24.27 | Verge | Actually that proves it's not about the apps restoring their position |
| 15:24.28 | thiago | Verge: so it's fixed after a click on nowhere? |
| 15:24.34 | Verge | thiago: yes |
| 15:24.44 | scummos_ | write a script which clicks after login |
| 15:24.46 | scummos_ | ;D |
| 15:24.46 | thiago | Verge: definitely a bug or something weird going on |
| 15:24.56 | Mogger | Verge: do you have "Activy screen follows mouse" enabled? |
| 15:25.13 | Verge | Don't think so |
| 15:25.23 | Mogger | it's in Window Behavior -> Focus |
| 15:25.29 | Verge | I tried it out sometime but found the default behaviour better |
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| 15:25.46 | Verge | Or is it default |
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| 15:25.54 | Verge | Krunner opens where the cursor is |
| 15:26.05 | Mogger | not default for Click to Focus |
| 15:26.12 | Mogger | default for other focus policies |
| 15:26.31 | Verge | yeah |
| 15:26.38 | Verge | Click to focus is mine |
| 15:26.48 | thiago | hmm |
| 15:26.52 | Mogger | and in Hardware -> Monitor -> Multiple Monitors, what your setting for "Show unmanaged windows on"? |
| 15:26.56 | thiago | I'm running Focus follows mouse |
| 15:27.04 | Mogger | s/what/what's |
| 15:28.08 | Mogger | oh, it's "Display and Monitor" |
| 15:28.40 | scummos_ | sometimes I find the sorting of the settings rather confusing |
| 15:29.17 | Mogger | yep |
| 15:29.24 | Mogger | you have to agree that it's gotten better though |
| 15:29.37 | Mogger | is not biased or anything ;) |
| 15:30.02 | Verge | Mogger: I don't have such option when running the System Settings of KDE from within Gnome |
| 15:30.05 | scummos_ | yes, it has gotten better |
| 15:30.10 | Verge | Of there it is |
| 15:30.18 | Verge | Missed my eyes for a number of times |
| 15:30.24 | scummos_ | the worst was configuring keyboard shortcuts in kde 3.x ;D |
| 15:30.35 | scummos_ | it was like, completely random |
| 15:30.37 | Verge | Mogger: it says display 1 |
| 15:30.40 | Mogger | scummos_: I _loved_ that feature (and still do) |
| 15:30.45 | Mogger | Verge: change it to follow mouse |
| 15:30.51 | scummos_ | yes, but it was in two categories |
| 15:30.52 | scummos_ | and you never knew which one to select |
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| 15:31.18 | Mogger | scummos_: not sure we're talking about the same thing.. I meant the "Input Actions" module |
| 15:31.29 | Mogger | but generally KDE's shortcut support rocks |
| 15:31.37 | scummos_ | yes, definitely |
| 15:32.06 | Mogger | wish the current Custom Shortcuts could get same love and a GUI overhaul |
| 15:32.11 | scummos_ | I don't remember it exactly, kde 3.x had something like two different shortcut modules, one for "gestures" and one for "shortcuts" or whatever |
| 15:32.21 | Mogger | I made a mockup once but never posted it somewhere |
| 15:32.33 | scummos_ | the only thing I find annoying currently is the notifications. |
| 15:32.36 | scummos_ | why are they so huge |
| 15:32.50 | Mogger | tried Colibri? |
| 15:33.10 | scummos_ | and why don't they have a proper timeout (if I click the icon about my copy operation, I don't want to know about kopete contacts which went online two hours ago) |
| 15:33.12 | Mogger | more passive notifications |
| 15:33.18 | scummos_ | yes, I tried it, it's not bad |
| 15:33.24 | scummos_ | but it doesn't have buttons, does it? |
| 15:33.28 | Mogger | nope |
| 15:33.57 | scummos_ | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Minimized+Notifications?content=111192 <- this is what I'd like to see |
| 15:35.04 | Mogger | yeah, KDE's notification system has the potential to be amazing |
| 15:35.49 | Mogger | I currently find e.g. the copy message to be messy. with my plasma theme it looks like frames within a frame |
| 15:35.50 | Verge | It drives me nuts |
| 15:36.13 | Mogger | but then again I haven't done any work on it, so I guess I'm not the one to complain :P |
| 15:36.15 | Verge | Notifications are nice but functionality a bit random |
| 15:36.19 | scummos_ | yes, those are extremely messy |
| 15:36.40 | scummos_ | i mean, I like all the information they provide you with, but... it looks messy ;P |
| 15:36.43 | Mogger | considered to do a mockup of how I would like it, but never found the time |
| 15:37.18 | Mogger | actually I would remove some of the information |
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| 15:37.49 | Mogger | and the whole "titlebar" (I understand why they are there, but most people probably don't know about extenders) |
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| 15:38.00 | scummos_ | also the progress indicator is a nice idea but totally useless |
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| 15:38.16 | scummos_ | as it has three (!) progress indicators stacked on a 16x16px space |
| 15:38.27 | scummos_ | the number, the animation, and the circular progress bar |
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| 15:39.46 | ads | Hmm, my mail to kde@ does not appear on the mailinglist ... |
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| 15:40.46 | rindolf | ads: are you subscribed? |
| 15:40.53 | scummos_ | haha |
| 15:41.01 | scummos_ | "is the cable plugged in?" |
| 15:41.01 | Mogger | KDE has many parts that with some polishing, would become killer features |
| 15:41.06 | scummos_ | yes |
| 15:41.20 | Mogger | maybe that's my call as I'm a famous nitpicker |
| 15:41.31 | scummos_ | it's my opinion too |
| 15:41.57 | scummos_ | many parts of it are good, but by a little bit just not good enough to be really awesome |
| 15:42.48 | Mogger | yeah. I guess Apple isn't very popular here, but I think they're doing an excellent job in providing an excellent quality "package" |
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| 15:43.23 | scummos_ | Mogger: yes, they do (they suck neverthereless). But they're doing this well, yeah |
| 15:43.32 | scummos_ | different from microsoft, which don't do anything like that |
| 15:43.43 | scummos_ | I mean, you can't even open a PDF file with a plain windows installation, what's that all about |
| 15:43.58 | Mogger | I haven't used Windows 7 yet so I can't complain about that, but I've heard that it's quite nice |
| 15:44.05 | scummos_ | on the other hand, it's much easier if you're selling hardware + software together |
| 15:44.08 | Verge | It's still Windows |
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| 15:44.12 | ads | rindolf: of course |
| 15:44.23 | scummos_ | Mogger: the taskbar is ugly *grin* |
| 15:44.33 | Mogger | Verge: yep, and that's why I have no desire to use it regardless of how awesome it is |
| 15:44.35 | scummos_ | i mean, in both functionality and design |
| 15:44.40 | ads | rindolf: according to my mailserver, the mail was delivered to the kde mailserver (as seen in the log) like 7 hours ago |
| 15:44.56 | rindolf | ads: OK. |
| 15:45.39 | Mogger | scummos_, Verge: just curious - are you "normal users", or KDE developers/contributors? |
| 15:46.02 | Verge | I program with Qt but won't tie them to any DE |
| 15:46.10 | scummos_ | Mogger: I'm working on kdevelop language support, don't know if you count that as "KDE developer" |
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| 15:46.27 | Verge | I was thinking about patching Akregator a while back but that's not in my near future now |
| 15:47.14 | Mogger | I've been thinking about having something similar to Ubuntu's 100 papercuts for KDE (paperkuts? :P) |
| 15:47.33 | cb400f | there's "junior jobs" |
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| 15:47.45 | scummos_ | Mogger: hm, what? |
| 15:47.49 | cb400f | and akregator is missing a maintainer afaik.. so you're hired :-) |
| 15:47.56 | Mogger | cb400f: true, but it doesn't seem well exposed |
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| 15:48.26 | Mogger | scummos_: "a paper cut is a trivially fixable usability bug that the average user would encounter in a default application of Ubuntu or Kubuntu OR in any of the featured applications." |
| 15:48.31 | Verge | cb400f: I got like three other apps of my own I would like to release some day, that's why I postponed it |
| 15:48.36 | scummos_ | Mogger: oh, okay, I see |
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| 15:49.06 | Mogger | so it would be minor issues that would take a few minutes to fix |
| 15:49.21 | scummos_ | ... but the upstream devs are too lazy for it, yes |
| 15:49.23 | scummos_ | ;D |
| 15:49.27 | scummos_ | I know that kind of bugs very well |
| 15:49.43 | Mogger | but people like you, Verge and me could probably fix it |
| 15:50.23 | Mogger | I already have one in my list that I plan to fix (as soon as I've got KDE trunk (master?) running) |
| 15:51.07 | Mogger | it's about changing the appearance of a button. trivial one-liner fix, but it impacts the impression people get of KDE software |
| 15:51.19 | scummos_ | yes |
| 15:51.24 | Verge | yeah |
| 15:51.33 | scummos_ | oh and, I got another one... the "move windows everywhere" feature rocks |
| 15:51.44 | scummos_ | BUT it also works on disabled scrollbars, which is a major fuckup |
| 15:51.47 | Verge | What's that |
| 15:51.53 | Verge | oh that yea |
| 15:52.09 | Verge | I use only "move from toolbars and window frame" |
| 15:52.16 | scummos_ | like, you have kate, and try to scroll vertically, and -- whoop, suddenly your whole window disappeared |
| 15:52.24 | Mogger | alt+window button for me |
| 15:52.25 | scummos_ | yes, because of this bug I do that, too |
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| 15:52.37 | scummos_ | but moving windows by grabbing the status bar (down there) is cool |
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| 15:52.51 | Mogger | anyway, have to go now; if anyone is interested in the papercut idea just ping me when I'm not away |
| 15:53.01 | scummos_ | bye |
| 15:53.09 | Mogger | see you guys :) |
| 15:53.14 | Verge | Might try it sometime |
| 15:53.43 | Verge | It's a nice way of making progress without having to devoting to a project for weeks |
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| 15:54.51 | QB-Geladriet | Hello, maybe someone can help me quickly. I build kde from svn/git with the kdesrc-build script. Everything woks fine but my dualhead configuration is strange. When I maximized the window it goes over both screens, too the wallpaper scales over both screens. Early in the kde 4 development I had the same problem but it was solved with 4.2 or so. When I use the 4.6 version from debian sid, this problem is not present. Somebody have an ide |
| 15:54.51 | QB-Geladriet | a what to switch that the screens are seperatet? Thanks! :) |
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| 15:58.11 | cb400f | what gfxcard/driver ? |
| 15:58.44 | QB-Geladriet | @cb400f fglrx, amd. |
| 15:59.34 | cb400f | hm... dunno anything about that.. isn't there some catalyst control center to configure stuff like dual head? |
| 16:00.15 | tangent3 | amdcccle |
| 16:00.34 | tangent3 | you'll need to run it through sudo |
| 16:00.44 | QB-Geladriet | it is configured right, with kde 4.6 it works, but not with 4.8. And I think is some configuration or compile flag. :) |
| 16:01.00 | cb400f | 4.8 is pre-beta |
| 16:01.05 | QB-Geladriet | I know |
| 16:01.23 | QB-Geladriet | I need it for development :) |
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| 16:36.28 | rindolf | simion314: is there any popup message to the disabled "new entry" |
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| 16:37.23 | simion314 | rindolf: i do not see any |
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| 18:36.41 | magyar | hi is there a way to reset a crashed kde4? session |
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| 18:41.51 | rindolf | magyar: do you mean if there's a way to restore it? |
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| 18:50.09 | Marchitos | is there anyone developing with kdevelop for KDE? |
| 18:51.32 | thiago | there are people doing that |
| 18:52.18 | Marchitos | i wanted to know a few things. I need to develop a really simple "text editor". How do i create the UI? using qt designer? |
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| 18:55.27 | magyar | rindolf: nope, to kill the X session as it is hung "Ctrl-Alt-Backspase" |
| 18:56.44 | scummos | yeeha kdevelop |
| 18:56.51 | scummos | Marchitos: you can do that like, with qtdesigner |
| 18:57.07 | Marchitos | is it the best way to do it? |
| 18:57.10 | scummos | a really simple text editor is a 5-line-application |
| 18:57.14 | scummos | depends |
| 18:57.19 | scummos | it's probably the easiest way |
| 18:57.48 | scummos | or you just start with one of the kdevelop templates |
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| 18:58.38 | rindolf | magyar: ah. |
| 18:58.49 | rindolf | magyar: you mean that Ctrl+Alt+Backspace does not work? |
| 19:00.42 | Marchitos | ok, thanks |
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| 19:05.45 | Marchitos | i am really confused..I've choosen a template. I added a qpushbutton in the ui with qtdesigner |
| 19:06.02 | Marchitos | where do i have to declare the QpushButton? into the blaview.h ? |
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| 19:26.23 | ebdomino | lu |
| 19:28.22 | rindolf | ebdomino: hi. |
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| 19:30.49 | ebdomino | hi rindolf |
| 19:31.02 | rindolf | ebdomino: what's up? |
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| 19:34.53 | quarkup | can some1 explain me why does KDE adds 2 launchers/icons (1 for the browser and 1 for file-manager) in my bar each time i login, if i remove them they appear next login !? |
| 19:35.11 | quarkup | i got vanilla kde (archlinux) |
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| 19:54.46 | rdieter_laptop | quarkup: it's an open/known bug, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278724 |
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| 19:55.41 | rdieter_laptop | quarkup: workarounds, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278724#c7 , http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=96351 |
| 20:02.17 | Daskreech | is there anyone here on KDE 4.7.1 |
| 20:02.59 | Daskreech | Could you open Dolphin and turn on the search panel (View -> Panels -> Search or Press F12) and let me know if you can change the criteria there |
| 20:03.04 | Daskreech | Thanks |
| 20:04.33 | ebdomino | i can't |
| 20:06.01 | ebdomino | sorry Daskreech i can't change the criteria |
| 20:06.17 | Daskreech | ebdomino: thank you KDE 4.7.1 ? |
| 20:07.24 | ebdomino | yes on archlinux |
| 20:07.30 | Daskreech | May I query on how you got KDE 4.7.1? Compiled? or from your distro? |
| 20:07.42 | ebdomino | from distro |
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| 20:21.44 | Daskreech | ebdomino: thanks |
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| 21:06.09 | Karlik | hello, I have kde 4.7.1 but I cannot log in, because of crash kded4 while loading kded_powerdevil.so (on splash screen), how can I debug/fix it? |
| 21:07.16 | Karlik | http://fpaste.org/Ztcn/ |
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| 22:16.28 | Daskreech | Karlik: how's that going? |
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| 22:20.48 | Karlik | Daskreech: it is while I'm logging in, on splash screen (it hangs up) |
| 22:21.15 | Daskreech | Karlik: can you run X byitself? |
| 22:22.01 | Karlik | Daskreech: what do you mean? I am on X, GNOME at now (because I can't log into KDE) |
| 22:23.04 | Daskreech | Karlik: can you run kcmshell4 powerdevilprofilesconfig ? |
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| 22:23.45 | Karlik | Daskreech: from gnome? |
| 22:23.46 | Daskreech | Yes |
| 22:23.49 | Karlik | yes, it works |
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| 22:23.53 | Daskreech | What is it set to? |
| 22:23.59 | Karlik | but I can't see any profiles |
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| 22:24.25 | Daskreech | Ha |
| 22:24.47 | Daskreech | ok where did you get KDE 4.7.1 from? |
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| 22:25.02 | Karlik | fedora rawhide |
| 22:25.28 | Daskreech | ok can you just run a yum check to see if you had left anything behind |
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| 22:26.45 | Karlik | Daskreech: all is ok (from yum) |
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| 22:32.12 | Karlik | Daskreech: it might be because of lacking profiles? |
| 22:32.32 | Daskreech | Karlik: I'm guessing. You were updating KDE? |
| 22:33.26 | Karlik | yes |
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| 22:34.22 | Karlik | from 4.6.2 (and then I lose access to kde) |
| 22:34.51 | Mogger | Karlik: all packages are up to date? |
| 22:34.58 | Karlik | Mogger: yes |
| 22:35.07 | Mogger | and it happens for all users? |
| 22:35.43 | Karlik | hmmm... I have only one user, I can create second and check |
| 22:35.45 | Karlik | one moment |
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| 22:36.45 | Karlik | and now I can log out :) |
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| 22:38.05 | Daskreech | Guest43965: Hello? |
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| 22:40.10 | Karlik | on new account is the same |
| 22:40.33 | Mogger | ok as expected then. it seems like a system-wide issue |
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| 22:41.47 | Karlik | Mogger: I think so but I don't know how to debug it |
| 22:41.55 | Mogger | unfortunately I have no idea either :/ |
| 22:42.08 | Mogger | can you run kwin --replace? plasma-desktop? |
| 22:42.23 | Mogger | ^ just wild guesses, but I think they should work in gnome |
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| 22:42.49 | Daskreech | Karlik: Any good with virtual terminals? |
| 22:43.10 | Daskreech | I'd bet it's some dependency missing. What did you do to run the upgrade? |
| 22:43.30 | Karlik | yum update ? |
| 22:49.15 | Daskreech | hmm |
| 22:49.24 | Daskreech | rawhide repo? |
| 22:49.28 | Karlik | yes |
| 22:49.30 | Daskreech | not kde4testing? |
| 22:49.34 | Karlik | no |
| 22:49.53 | Daskreech | did you ask in #fedora-kde ? |
| 22:50.56 | Karlik | I have another problem (not kde related) - some progs run fine only under gdb (without gdb it gets segmentation fault) so thanks for help at now, I must fix that issue first ;) |
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| 22:53.45 | Daskreech | ah rawhide :) |
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| 22:55.01 | Karlik | always interesting issues (it might be fine to find resolve of problem) :P |
| 22:55.42 | Daskreech | Well rawhide is there to present the problems not always a solution |
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| 22:57.25 | Karlik | Daskreech: on my previous laptop I had rawhide ~3 years without reinstall |
| 22:58.52 | Daskreech | That's a long time |
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