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| 01:23.29 | Zenguy_pc | is there some sort of hotkey/shortcut support for accessing grouped windows(tabs)? |
| 01:27.14 | Zenguy_pc | is there anyway I can create Shortcuts to acesss particular running application windows instead of cycling with alt+tab |
| 01:27.15 | Zenguy_pc | ? |
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| 01:49.27 | Sho_ | Zenguy_pc: window menu -> advanced -> window shortcut |
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| 01:52.00 | Zenguy_pc | Sho_: thanks will that remain for all sessions(ie. after restart)? |
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| 01:53.48 | Sho_ | Zenguy_pc: it should, yes |
| 01:54.09 | Zenguy_pc | Sho_: thanks a lot |
| 01:54.41 | Zenguy_pc | have any ideas about good shortcuts to use.. I just assigned windows key+x for 'xchat' |
| 01:55.17 | Sho_ | switch to konversation and assign ctrl+k to it ;) |
| 01:56.14 | Zenguy_pc | Sho_: that's a chat client? i'm using pclinuxos and the default is pidgin |
| 01:56.44 | Sho_ | Konversation is KDE's IRC client, yeah |
| 01:58.30 | Zenguy_pc | i don;t have that installed? how is it different from xchat? I'm quite used to xchat with custon url handlers and color scheme |
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| 02:01.20 | Sho_ | Zenguy_pc: well it's a KDE app, so it has better KDE integration (e.g. visually, and notifications-wise, and it has KDE addressbook support, etc.), and it also has various features XChat doesn't have (though the same is true in reverse, so it depends on your needs) |
| 02:03.10 | Zenguy_pc | i haven't used all of kde's features yet.. and the only fully integrated kde desktop I ever tried was kubuntu |
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| 02:15.41 | cordell | install it and try it out Zenguy_pc |
| 02:15.56 | cordell | granted you have to manually set your own servers that you want to connect to |
| 02:16.13 | Zenguy_pc | cordell: is that what you're using? I like the rolling release of pclinuxos |
| 02:16.27 | Zenguy_pc | servers |
| 02:16.28 | Zenguy_pc | ? |
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| 02:29.30 | cordell | yes thats what i am using |
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| 02:38.17 | edneymatias | hi there |
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| 02:38.31 | edneymatias | anyone here was able to build telepathy-kde on fedora? |
| 02:39.35 | Daskreech | edneymatias: You asked in #fedora-kde already? |
| 02:40.36 | edneymatias | Daskreech: not yet, as it's a problem find the already compiled telepathy-qt4 ...i thought i could solve it here |
| 02:40.57 | edneymatias | i'm following instructions on comunity.kde.org |
| 02:41.15 | Daskreech | well if you compiling from source what makes it fedora specific? |
| 02:41.17 | edneymatias | and managed to compile and install telepathy-qt4 |
| 02:41.25 | Daskreech | are they not supplying libraries? |
| 02:41.35 | Daskreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.39 | edneymatias | it's not that |
| 02:42.02 | edneymatias | when running cmake to configure kcm module, it can not find telepathy-qt4 |
| 02:42.19 | edneymatias | how if i just installed it? |
| 02:42.36 | Daskreech | ah |
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| 02:43.04 | Daskreech | Which Fedora are you running? |
| 02:43.23 | edneymatias | 15 |
| 02:43.42 | edneymatias | but tryied it on fedora 14 also before release |
| 02:43.53 | edneymatias | telepathy-kde release i mean |
| 02:43.59 | edneymatias | and same problem |
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| 02:55.50 | claydoh | edneymatias: do you have the telepathy-qt4 dev package installed? not sure what it would be called in fedora |
| 02:58.47 | edneymatias | claydoh: here it's a list of all packages matching telepathy yum could find |
| 02:58.48 | edneymatias | http://pastebin.com/BcBcNV8j |
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| 03:01.10 | claydoh | edneymatias: well there is no telepathy-qt4 there at all, you may have to compile that as well perhaps |
| 03:04.16 | edneymatias | claydoh: where can i get the dev package? |
| 03:04.28 | edneymatias | claydoh: or is it a build type? |
| 03:05.20 | claydoh | I dunno |
| 03:06.05 | edneymatias | claydoh: oh thank you |
| 03:06.29 | claydoh | but if you compilead and installed telepathy-qt4 yiourself, the -devel part is alreasdy there, too |
| 03:08.10 | edneymatias | yeah, i did it as stated here http://community.kde.org/Real-Time_Communication_and_Collaboration/Installing_stable_release |
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| 03:15.45 | claydoh | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=release .. |
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| 03:16.21 | claydoh | the only thing ai could think is that in fedora, the kde prefix is something different than /usr pperhaps |
| 03:16.42 | claydoh | edneymatias: that's my only guess here |
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| 03:17.17 | claydoh | a fedora person might know this |
| 03:17.48 | edneymatias | ok.., |
| 03:17.53 | edneymatias | trying on fedora-kde |
| 03:17.56 | claydoh | snoozes |
| 03:18.06 | edneymatias | let's see |
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| 03:23.12 | factor | My sansa fuze works again while in KDE thanks |
| 03:23.25 | factor | Hated having to drop to console and upload my videos |
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| 03:45.24 | aryr100 | is 4.7 less or more for system resources than 4.6.5 using netbook interface |
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| 04:05.25 | virusuy | happy release day everyone! |
| 04:05.42 | notslad | celebrates some more |
| 04:06.20 | notslad | I'm looking forward to when OpenSUSE get's it's repositories up :^) Until the, I think I'll just celebrate :^) |
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| 04:29.56 | Daskreech | aryr100: Should be less |
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| 04:31.02 | virusuy | notslad: same here, but in Fedora |
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| 04:32.01 | notslad | Both Fedora and OpenSuSE seem to be fairly early adopters for KDE, so I guess we won't have to celebrate for long ;^) |
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| 04:32.49 | N9NU | Mageia baby |
| 04:33.31 | N9NU | anyone have an 8" floppy disk drive I can buy |
| 04:33.54 | N9NU | 36)KB double density |
| 04:33.56 | N9NU | 0 |
| 04:35.51 | virusuy | notslad: yeah! |
| 04:36.11 | virusuy | N9NU: old school ! |
| 04:36.15 | N9NU | heh |
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| 06:07.37 | CruX| | hello, i am not able to configure kdm via systemsettings (as normal user) - all controls are disabled |
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| 06:07.45 | CruX| | how can be this fixed ? |
| 06:08.36 | Verge | That's not KDE 4.7 is it? |
| 06:08.40 | Sho_ | i guess your distro doesn't have the policykit stuff set up properly |
| 06:08.59 | Sho_ | run it as root, kdesu kcmshell4 kdm |
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| 06:10.38 | Dhraakellian | trying to get the volume buttons on my thinkpad T60 to work |
| 06:11.24 | Dhraakellian | I set the keyboard model to Lenovo ... T60/etc, but they're still not working |
| 06:11.27 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
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| 06:12.25 | CruX| | Sho_: thanks, btw its debian 6.0 |
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| 06:12.55 | Dhraakellian | most of the other blue keys show up with xev |
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| 06:15.40 | andip | hey. using gentoo and kde 4.6, i'm trying to download wallpapers, but i'm told there's a network-error. anyone know what log-file or similar i can look at to see what's being tried, and what fails? |
| 06:18.05 | Sho_ | andip: if you enable knewstuff and kio sections in kdebugdialog you might get useful outout in ~/.xsession-errors |
| 06:18.12 | Sho_ | *output |
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| 06:21.26 | andip | Sho_: thanks, i'll try that |
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| 06:22.23 | Sho_ | andip: note that you will probably want to disable tht again later - kio is used by a lot of things, so your log can grow big |
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| 06:28.01 | marisn | how to remove all file associations with one application? One of Wine applications has registered as a default one for most of file types... |
| 06:30.01 | Verge | ffs |
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| 06:30.19 | Verge | I upgrade from 4.7 RC2 to 4.7.0 and everything starts with a segfault |
| 06:30.22 | Verge | Not impressed |
| 06:30.43 | akemrir | Verge: which distribution you have? |
| 06:30.47 | Verge | Arch |
| 06:30.55 | marisn | there's Your problem ;) |
| 06:31.19 | akemrir | Kde 4.7 is in testing in Arch ;) thats the problem, not distribution |
| 06:31.30 | Verge | no |
| 06:31.39 | Verge | Testing doesn't mean broken packages |
| 06:32.03 | marisn | Verge: reboot && revdep-rebuild (how that's called in Arch?) |
| 06:32.04 | Verge | You think the RCs were in stable? |
| 06:32.13 | akemrir | But these packages are not in extra yet ;) |
| 06:32.39 | Verge | I just told you I upgraded from RC2 |
| 06:32.39 | akemrir | testing doesnt mean stable |
| 06:32.44 | Verge | Before that from RC1 and before that from beta |
| 06:33.17 | akemrir | I`am updating to 4.7 from testing right now, I tell you If i have a problem with it |
| 06:34.17 | akemrir | marisn: we use packages from repository ;) |
| 06:34.20 | Verge | Having packages in testing practically means they are working |
| 06:34.26 | Verge | Should be |
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| 06:35.02 | reo | testing = testing whether they are working or not. can be either. |
| 06:35.17 | Verge | Therefore I am completely justified to be annoyed by the fact a simple upgrade from a release candidate to a 'stable' release renders plasma-desktop unusable |
| 06:35.49 | akemrir | don`t use testing ;) that will solve the problem |
| 06:35.53 | Verge | nope |
| 06:36.04 | akemrir | and downgrade |
| 06:36.09 | Verge | nope |
| 06:36.14 | Verge | Well, maybe to RC2 |
| 06:36.23 | Verge | Obviously if that's the best option available |
| 06:36.52 | Verge | Though I might try the classic 'wipe out my personality from KDE and reset configs' first |
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| 06:40.11 | Verge | Oh my |
| 06:40.14 | Verge | It worked |
| 06:40.34 | akemrir | Downgrade or reset? |
| 06:40.36 | Verge | So the problem is evidently again somebody breaking something upon moving from RC to 'stable' |
| 06:40.39 | Verge | Reset |
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| 06:41.41 | marisn | nice. so - anybody knows how to edit file associations in bulk? |
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| 06:44.54 | Malar | did you check out kde control panel? |
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| 06:48.50 | marisn | Malar: You mean - like going over all hundreds of file associations and removing one by one by hand? |
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| 06:49.28 | Rudd-O | sup guys |
| 06:49.37 | Rudd-O | why does my nfs drives not show up in my devices list? |
| 06:50.22 | Verge | At least it's enough to wipe Plasma configs |
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| 06:51.13 | Rudd-O | what am I doing wrong? |
| 06:51.17 | Rudd-O | can you help me diagnose it_ |
| 06:51.19 | Rudd-O | ? |
| 06:52.03 | Verge | You know, guys, I've always wondered this |
| 06:52.18 | Verge | Why does the top-most 10 px of my screen have excessive tearing? |
| 06:52.21 | Verge | When dragging windows and stuff |
| 06:53.03 | Verge | I can see it's only that a 10-pixel tall slice at the top |
| 06:53.11 | Verge | For example when dragging this Plasma handle |
| 06:54.38 | Malar | mirisn, well how else do u wanna do it? |
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| 07:05.27 | marisn | Malar: well - with some more automated way. I know how application is named - there should be a way how to remove this association form all file types |
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| 07:39.57 | sidh | Greetings ladies and gentlemen |
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| 08:20.35 | kekzpriester | Hi folks. My KDE is asking me for the password of my LUKS encrypted root partition on every single login. How can I make KDE to simply ignore this device? |
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| 10:10.31 | Rudd-O | why does my nfs drives not show up in my devices list? |
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| 10:38.49 | reisi | Rudd-O: i think that only non-fstab devices appear there |
| 10:39.26 | reisi | kekzpriester: if your root is encrypted how does one reach to kdm for login? |
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| 10:46.18 | kekzpriester | reisi: I enter the password during the boot sequence, the partition is decrypted by dm-crypt. |
| 10:47.12 | reisi | kekzpriester: aah so it's redundantly re-queried, without any effect? |
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| 10:48.20 | kekzpriester | yes reisi |
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| 11:10.33 | zemo | where the knetworkmanager settings are saved? cant see any in home... |
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| 11:27.10 | aseigo | zemo: `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/config/networkmanagementrc |
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| 11:27.31 | zemo | aseigo: thanks |
| 11:27.32 | aseigo | some versions of knetworkmanager (the stand alone version) us knetworkmanagerrc iirc |
| 11:28.04 | zemo | aseigo: i only have a plasma applet to control it |
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| 11:29.19 | Nitesh | hi |
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| 11:31.27 | zemo | aseigo: i have created a new panel and put it in right top corner just to add some icons (like it used to exist in Microsoft Office soome years ago) to run my most used apps, now i see that if the panel its somehow longer, theicons dont stay side-by-side and let the restant panel empty, now they are separated in a way to fill all panel |
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| 11:33.03 | zemo | aseigo: but i think should exist an option so that the user could choose to have the panel icons aligned side-by-side and let the restant panel empty, or to have the icons filling the all panel, like as a justify in openoffice |
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| 11:33.36 | zemo | aseigo: could you understand what im saying? |
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| 11:34.21 | aseigo | zemo: you can add a spacer to the panel and it will "shove" the icons together. try it. |
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| 11:35.15 | zemo | aseigo: ah yes, but a user would not know about this, would be better if there was an option about it |
| 11:36.05 | Nitesh | Any one from india ? |
| 11:36.17 | zemo | aseigo: now i see that theres the option "Set space flexible", but what this does? |
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| 11:36.46 | zemo | aseigo: ups, this flexible option its only for the space |
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| 11:37.07 | omid | smplayer is QT ? |
| 11:37.38 | zemo | aseigo: but now i removed the space and the icons continue all together, they didnt go back to a justified alignment |
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| 11:38.49 | zemo | aseigo: also would be very usefull if there was defined sizes to choose, like it used to exist in kde 3 |
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| 11:39.56 | zemo | aseigo: i would like to be able to set a default size, so that when creating a new panel would appear with that default size, for example i like to have the panel small, so the size 24 for me works better, but how its now that isnt possible to do |
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| 11:41.36 | zemo | aseigo: how the panel resize is now its grat, but would be much better if there also existed some default sizes the user could choose |
| 11:41.48 | zemo | s/grat/great |
| 11:41.49 | aseigo | zemo: it is indeed possible. http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting <-- the panel set up is done with a little bit of javascript. you can either write your own, or modify the one that exists on disk and get whatever size you prefer |
| 11:41.56 | aseigo | and yeah, default sizes.. meh |
| 11:42.03 | aseigo | there is one default size (the default) |
| 11:42.08 | aseigo | and the rest is really up to user taste |
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| 11:42.35 | aseigo | having a bunch of entries in Yet Another Configuration Area that covers some but not even close to all use cases == not very great |
| 11:42.39 | aseigo | the trade off just isn't worth it |
| 11:42.40 | zemo | aseigo: yes but would be better if the user could change the default size, so that the new panels would appear with that size |
| 11:43.10 | aseigo | zemo: it is indeed possible. http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/PlasmaDesktopScripting <-- the panel set up is done with a little bit of javascript. you can either write your own, or modify the one that exists on disk and get whatever size you prefer |
| 11:43.38 | aseigo | if you're asking an option in the GUI somewhere, it's extremely unlikely to happen |
| 11:44.03 | aseigo | creating panels is not something people do on a regular basis, particularly compared to other things which are in the UI |
| 11:44.10 | aseigo | there's only so much room in the config UI before things get truly insane |
| 11:44.10 | zemo | aseigo: like its now, i always need to manually edit ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc and change the size in all the entries |
| 11:44.19 | aseigo | no, dude, you don't |
| 11:44.27 | aseigo | read the page i've linked to twice now |
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| 11:46.07 | aseigo | e.g. ... a 46 px high panel: panels()[0].height = 46 |
| 11:46.30 | zemo | aseigo: im looking at it, but could tell me where i can change the default , i mean i source code |
| 11:47.51 | zemo | aseigo: that way i would build kde and would have panel default size the way i like |
| 11:47.51 | aseigo | atually .. if you read it ... it does. |
| 11:47.56 | aseigo | look at the section on templates |
| 11:48.01 | aseigo | you don't have to build kde at all. |
| 11:48.16 | aseigo | `kde4-config --prefix`/share/apps/plasma/layout-templates/org.kde.plasma-desktop.defaultPanel/ |
| 11:48.26 | zemo | aseigo: im used to buid it, so i would prefer the source code |
| 11:48.28 | aseigo | and yes, the layout-templates path is documented on that page |
| 11:48.39 | aseigo | and in there is some javascript |
| 11:48.52 | aseigo | e.g.: |
| 11:48.58 | aseigo | panel.height = screenGeometry(panel.screen).height > 1024 ? 35 : 27 |
| 11:49.00 | aseigo | on line 7 |
| 11:49.07 | aseigo | edit that line to your heart's conent |
| 11:49.08 | aseigo | er, content |
| 11:49.11 | aseigo | then make a new panel. voila |
| 11:49.15 | aseigo | no restarting of anything even |
| 11:49.33 | aseigo | no compiling either |
| 11:49.45 | aseigo | again, this is documented on that page :) |
| 11:50.09 | zemo | aseigo: yes but im used to build kde and also provide it publicly to others, |
| 11:50.47 | zemo | im used to package it and put it available for who uses the distro, so i would prefer to patch the source code |
| 11:50.51 | aseigo | heh.. gah. ok... |
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| 11:51.09 | aseigo | let me say this one more time .. slowly if need be: there is no C++ source code to patch. |
| 11:51.15 | aseigo | because the size is not in the C++ sources |
| 11:51.51 | zemo | yes i saw thats too different from where it was in kde3 where was possible to patch it |
| 11:52.06 | aseigo | you could patch kde-workspace/plasma/desktop/containments/panel if you wished, but that would not do a whole lot. you want to touch the javascript ... |
| 11:52.16 | aseigo | which does indeed ship with kde-workspace (in desktop/shell/) |
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| 11:52.23 | aseigo | but that's what controls how the default panel looks |
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| 11:52.45 | aseigo | and you can make as many other panel templates as you wish. including different ones with different sizes and contents by default even |
| 11:53.26 | zemo | :) |
| 11:53.31 | aseigo | all with javascript. no c++ source code patching. |
| 11:54.09 | aseigo | and let me turn this around: |
| 11:54.17 | aseigo | in kde3 it was impossible to define any such thing |
| 11:54.24 | zemo | aseigo: so whats the file that can be patched to change default size |
| 11:54.32 | aseigo | you had to go in and mess with hardcoded numbers and defaults in the c++ and rebuild things in a platform-dependent manner |
| 11:54.41 | aseigo | panel contents? even worse |
| 11:54.43 | zemo | aseigo: yes |
| 11:54.52 | aseigo | you could play with dcop to do a fair amount (which i also implemented, btw :) |
| 11:55.20 | aseigo | thank GOODNESS that now we have a nice, packageable, API-stable javascript method to do all that and much more |
| 11:55.39 | Nitesh | hi |
| 11:55.40 | aseigo | in fact, this was designed in consultation with two very large installations in europe |
| 11:55.59 | aseigo | Nitesh: yo |
| 11:56.06 | zemo | :) |
| 11:56.25 | zemo | so in layout.js i simply change 35 into 24 |
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| 12:01.54 | Nitesh | aseigo: ;) |
| 12:01.58 | zemo | aseigo: in systemsettings->Appearance->Icones i have the panel icon size to 22, but when i created a new panel didnt apepared with that size |
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| 12:02.08 | Nitesh | aseigo: where are you from ? |
| 12:03.19 | aseigo | Nitesh: originally? canada. i live in switzerland these days, however. |
| 12:03.34 | zemo | aseigo: we almost neighbours |
| 12:03.41 | aseigo | zemo: yes, because that doesn't control the size of the panel. |
| 12:03.41 | Nitesh | aseigo: ohh Great .. |
| 12:03.55 | aseigo | zemo: oh? where are you? |
| 12:04.05 | Nitesh | i am from india. |
| 12:04.26 | Nitesh | i am new to fedora and have lots of problem in it. |
| 12:04.34 | zemo | aseigo: by the way when right clicking in desktop and selecting to create a panel-> DEfault Panel, desktop crashes |
| 12:04.47 | Nitesh | could you please help me to resolve it ? |
| 12:04.57 | zemo | aseigo: im at home now, but ill leave after lunch |
| 12:05.13 | aseigo | Nitesh: if the questions are distribution specific, i'd suggest #fedora-kde or #fedora (depending..) |
| 12:05.29 | aseigo | zemo: heh.. no, i mean where in the world.. you said we are almost neighbours |
| 12:05.50 | Nitesh | aseigo: Gnome. |
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| 12:06.38 | zemo | aseigo: can you reproduce it? |
| 12:07.22 | zemo | aseigo: ah yes im in Portugal |
| 12:08.18 | zemo | aseigo: i have created now a new panel, so where can i touch to put in size 24 |
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| 12:08.55 | Nitesh | aseigo: & zemo .. i was kicked by fedbot from #fedora-unregistered .. why so happened ? |
| 12:09.14 | Nitesh | could you plz tell . |
| 12:09.46 | zemo | Nitesh: im not there, but seams you need to register in freenode |
| 12:10.17 | phogg | Nitesh: /msg nickserv help register |
| 12:11.39 | Nitesh | thanx phogg |
| 12:13.27 | Nitesh | register a b |
| 12:13.32 | Nitesh | REGISTER A B |
| 12:14.11 | Nitesh | what's happening .. can't understand .. plz anyone help me about how to register |
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| 12:15.45 | zemo | aseigo: i have set the size in javascript file to 22 but the panel i created didnt had that size |
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| 12:16.07 | jthomas_ | Nitesh: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration |
| 12:16.19 | jthomas_ | aseigo congrats and thanks for the new release |
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| 12:19.00 | zemo | seams aseigo is n longer with us... |
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| 12:19.44 | omid | i dont know if its a distro related question or desktop related but i'm just installed chakra linux and i want it to ask for password for system login.how can i do so? |
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| 12:27.34 | zemo | omid: `kcmshell4 kdm' |
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| 12:28.49 | zemo | thiago: bem-vindo |
| 12:29.22 | omid | zemo http://paste.kde.org/102727/85615113/ |
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| 12:30.01 | zemo | omid: you need to install the package in your distro |
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| 12:30.16 | zemo | omid: i never heard about that distro, so i cant help you there |
| 12:30.41 | omid | zemo http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=chakra |
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| 12:31.01 | omid | its by far the best KDE that i've everseen (alongside opensuse) |
| 12:31.05 | zemo | zemo: im using Mageia, a mandriva fork distro, one of the best in my humild opinion |
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| 12:32.13 | zemo | omid: opensuse also seams to be a good distro, but nothing like mandriva that put all my machines working with all devices (and this many years ago), not even Redhat at that time was able |
| 12:33.40 | zemo | thiago: sabes onde o networkmanage guarda as definições? nao vejo nada em no /.kde/~ |
| 12:33.54 | pinotree | ELANG |
| 12:34.28 | omid | zemo yes i like mandriva. and i think mandriva and suse are similar in some aspects . YaST and mandriva control center, both KDE focused , both RPM , and both european lol |
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| 12:36.22 | zemo | omid: yeap but i didnt like much about novell |
| 12:36.56 | omid | zemo suse is an independent brand now. novell was aquired by attachment . check this out : http://www.suse.com/ |
| 12:36.57 | zemo | novell never was opensource trully oriented |
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| 12:38.22 | omid | zemo , evolution , banshee , mono , working on kde an gnome etc. what should novell do? and what canonical does? |
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| 12:39.09 | zemo | omid: well thats why i simply use mandriva and mageia |
| 12:39.16 | zemo | time to lunch :) |
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| 12:39.53 | omid | imho suse did more for opensource than mandriva. ok man. have a good time ;) |
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| 12:40.25 | CruX| | isn't suse under oracle ? |
| 12:42.03 | nit | hi i am nitesh |
| 12:42.13 | nit | caravel: hi |
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| 12:42.54 | nit | caravel: there is an option for services .. what should i type there ? |
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| 12:44.08 | caravel | nit: I didn't answer you here, hence you shouldn't contact me either :) Plus, I answered you already on #fedora-kde (you should put the word "nickserv"). Finally, the right place for this discussion should be #konversation ! :D |
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| 12:52.50 | morsik | eh guys |
| 12:52.54 | morsik | it's kde 4.7 |
| 12:53.02 | morsik | and calendar is still not fixed until kde 4.0 |
| 12:53.18 | morsik | http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/28/2011-07-28-145157_1920x1080_scrot.png |
| 12:53.28 | morsik | it doesn't use system font size |
| 12:53.51 | morsik | s/until/since/ |
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| 12:54.19 | morsik | on Digital Clock Settings i have only font to use |
| 12:54.21 | morsik | nothing about size |
| 12:54.26 | antihero | Is there a way to bind an action to just tapping meta? |
| 12:54.32 | antihero | (ala windows 7/unity) |
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| 12:56.56 | morsik | btw, i have strange problem, probably not with kde but with my config |
| 12:57.16 | morsik | when i'm opening dolphin or systemsettings, he is showed at top of screen |
| 12:57.19 | morsik | and have height=100% |
| 12:58.02 | morsik | also, when i'm resizing plasma panels, they are moved to top and resizing to height=100% (width not changed) |
| 12:59.02 | nitesh | i have some problem in Windows and fedora 14.. the problem is when i click/double click on any icon .it doesn't get start fist time . and my computer become hang. |
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| 12:59.24 | morsik | nitesh: check memory |
| 12:59.46 | omid | CruX| nop suse has never been under oracle. the only distro that oracle has is oracle linux enterprise (forked from redhat) suse is an independent brand and is no longer under novell |
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| 13:05.54 | antihero | Which MPD client would you guys recommend? |
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| 13:10.52 | morsik | is there similar app to Palimpsest/Gnome-Disk-Utility for KDE? |
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| 13:15.02 | wodim | hi, is it possible to configure kde so i can use a hotkey other than alt+f2 to trigger krunner? |
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| 13:16.10 | jekkt | hi ho |
| 13:16.29 | Toni_Link | wodim: yes |
| 13:17.06 | wodim | Toni_Link: :) you know what the next question is, no? |
| 13:17.59 | Toni_Link | wodim: yes, i know... |
| 13:18.07 | Toni_Link | wodim: 1 second... |
| 13:18.37 | wodim | ok |
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| 13:19.19 | Toni_Link | wodim: go to system settings > shortcuts and gestures > global keyboard shortcuts > |
| 13:19.50 | wodim | ah cool |
| 13:19.59 | Toni_Link | wodim: click on krunner |
| 13:20.17 | Toni_Link | wodim: select custom |
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| 13:20.40 | wodim | oops |
| 13:20.47 | wodim | seems that it's not possible to use "Meta" alone |
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| 13:21.30 | nitesh | my another question is about "msg" command .. when i type msg in my console . it show me a dialog box named msg 1.28 msort 8.53 . what does it mean ? |
| 13:21.45 | Toni_Link | wodim: i know, i've tried too |
| 13:22.08 | jekkt | i try to download new themes for Window Decoration and after i press "get new Decorations" i got the following error cannot download |
| 13:22.27 | jekkt | where i can get new themes for kde4? |
| 13:22.39 | pinotree | http://kde-look.org |
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| 13:22.57 | Toni_Link | jekkt: in www.kde-look.org |
| 13:23.00 | jekkt | ty and what is with my download function:) ? |
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| 13:23.55 | jekkt | what is a "meta" key? |
| 13:24.04 | mrub | Toni_Link: so there is no chance to use meta key alone in kde? |
| 13:24.10 | mrub | the windows button |
| 13:24.14 | jekkt | ah:) |
| 13:24.48 | Toni_Link | mrub: yes, i could not |
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| 13:25.39 | Toni_Link | jekkt: probably ... must be something with permissions |
| 13:26.22 | Toni_Link | jekkt: (about you download function) |
| 13:26.25 | omid | mrub i hate the windows button. my old ibm thinkpad dosnt have that shit. my new thinkpad does |
| 13:26.29 | jekkt | Toni_Link: thx |
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| 13:27.24 | Toni_Link | omid: i hate too |
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| 13:27.34 | mrub | omid: its just another key on the keyboard. but you are right: it bothers that one can't use it they way one wants |
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| 13:28.27 | Toni_Link | AFK |
| 13:28.31 | omid | ubuntu is a windows fork and make good use of meta(windows) key ;) |
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| 13:30.14 | mrub | omid: i also saw on my gnome 3 fedora netbook the ability to 'inactivate touchpad during typing'. sometimes its really inspiring to look at the other DEs |
| 13:30.26 | mrub | or it makes you envy... |
| 13:31.09 | omid | mrub gnome3 sucks. oversimplified and stupid |
| 13:31.30 | mrub | yes, thats my overall impression |
| 13:31.32 | omid | just like ubuntu's unity. a childish copy from osX |
| 13:32.00 | mrub | but they're just at the beginning of their 3. series to be fair |
| 13:32.08 | mrub | maybe that will change in the future |
| 13:32.26 | mrub | but personally, i prefer options which i can configure my way |
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| 13:32.47 | omid | mrub years and years had passed since gnome 2.0.0 and i didnt saw a major improvement |
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| 13:33.23 | mrub | omid i dont have that much experience with the gnome 2 versions |
| 13:35.05 | omid | mrub use KDE. imho is the best DE available today.i just installed gnu/linux chakra and it uses a special edition of kde named " KDE mod" and its fast and impressive |
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| 13:35.50 | mrub | omid: i have kubuntu right here on my desktop |
| 13:36.22 | mrub | its just that i tried gnome/lxde on the netbook apart from kde |
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| 13:36.58 | Toni_Link | mrub: the gnome 2 was fantastic, today i use KDE, i hate the gnome 3 |
| 13:36.59 | omid | mrub kubuntu is not as bad as it was in past. but i consider OpenSUSE to have the best KDE available.even the KDE developers use suse and the KDE live disk is built with suse. |
| 13:37.33 | mrub | there are so many important apps for kde which i often use - like latex or rkward (best R frontend that i know of) |
| 13:37.45 | mrub | and not to forget: amarok |
| 13:37.49 | Toni_Link | I use Fedora 15 with KDE 4.6, lightweight and fast |
| 13:37.53 | mrub | omid: maybe i will try that also |
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| 13:44.32 | gianfrix | Hi all! I'd like to answer a question about KWin's OpenGL ES support... is it ONLY for mobile devices or for desktop too? I ask this because I recompiled kwin enabling ES support but all I get using OpenGL rendering is this: http://paste.kde.org/102763/ . My videocard is an nVidia 9600M GT |
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| 13:44.54 | phh | i think nvidia drivers doesn't have opengl es enabled yet |
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| 13:45.40 | phh | that makes me think I should have used my day to build kwin gles on my smartbook... |
| 13:45.56 | morsik | gianfrix: uh, i see that you have VMware graphics, not Nvidia... |
| 13:46.00 | morsik | you are running kde on vmware |
| 13:46.18 | gianfrix | morsik: really I don't know how vmware got there |
| 13:46.23 | gianfrix | i'm on real hw lol |
| 13:46.31 | morsik | huh? |
| 13:46.34 | morsik | so why i see there: |
| 13:46.34 | gianfrix | and nvidia blobs are correctly running |
| 13:46.37 | morsik | OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. |
| 13:46.56 | gianfrix | yep, I really don't know why that string is there |
| 13:47.14 | gianfrix | I guess it's a configuration problem? |
| 13:47.22 | morsik | possible |
| 13:47.43 | morsik | i have: |
| 13:47.45 | morsik | OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc.server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 13:47.48 | morsik | oops... |
| 13:47.54 | morsik | that: server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 13:48.18 | gianfrix | hmm |
| 13:48.20 | morsik | on nvidia closed drivers |
| 13:48.53 | gianfrix | I'm getting quite confused lol |
| 13:49.45 | gianfrix | so, should I check and/or enable opengl es on nvidia blobs? |
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| 14:18.58 | smtx | hi |
| 14:19.20 | smtx | i got kde4 and i have that "notification" info bar active |
| 14:19.30 | smtx | but it informs me on everything that come sin on twitter or jabber and so on |
| 14:19.40 | smtx | i cannot see how i can select which sources should notify me and which not |
| 14:19.55 | smtx | allready googled around but did not see how i can adjust this |
| 14:19.58 | smtx | andy hint would be great |
| 14:21.05 | smtx | uhm okay seems this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4343/how-do-i-get-kopete-to-hide-ignore-status-changes |
| 14:21.06 | smtx | is helping |
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| 14:23.21 | Toni_Link | smtx: you want... add kopete notifications (in the plasma)? |
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| 14:23.46 | smtx | no i wanted not to get spamed by new tweets comming in via Choquok *just did disable it* |
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| 14:23.57 | smtx | but pidgin is not an option in the notification-sources :/ |
| 14:25.04 | Toni_Link | smtx: oh, sorry, i can't help you :( |
| 14:26.04 | smtx | well thx anyway |
| 14:26.08 | smtx | will find my way around i hope |
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| 14:28.09 | jekkt | what mean Loadin of providers from file : http://download.kde.org/ocs/providers.xml failed? |
| 14:28.17 | jekkt | after i try to get new themes? |
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| 14:47.02 | antihero | How do I export my Konsole theme? |
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| 14:48.08 | grobda24 | antihero, should all be stored in a settings text file |
| 14:48.12 | wodim | why's nepomuk sometimes at 100% cpu for several minutes? that's something hard for me to understand |
| 14:48.22 | antihero | grobda24: And where might that be? |
| 14:48.59 | grobda24 | I don't know ... you could try "locate -i konsole" |
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| 14:49.45 | antihero | Hmm, not found it, i'll check my user profile |
| 14:50.28 | jekkt | on window decoration how can i change the colour? |
| 14:50.36 | jekkt | all is in grey i hate grey |
| 14:50.39 | antihero | ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/*.colorscheme |
| 14:50.52 | jekkt | not on console:) on kde4 |
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| 14:51.11 | jekkt | workspace appearance |
| 14:51.27 | jekkt | settings -> system settings |
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| 14:52.59 | Toni_Link | jekkt: change color of the window border? |
| 14:53.32 | jekkt | i got now oxygen as window decoration but it is grey |
| 14:53.45 | jekkt | when i press the configure decoration |
| 14:54.03 | jekkt | i can only change the colour on shadows |
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| 14:54.15 | jekkt | but it is stll grey |
| 14:54.28 | tietze | Can someone help me with a kdepim problem? |
| 14:55.12 | Toni_Link | jekkt: system settings > application appearence > colors |
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| 14:55.55 | jekkt | Toni_Link: where is that button? |
| 14:55.58 | Toni_Link | you can download a new theme too |
| 14:56.04 | jekkt | i got only window decoration |
| 14:56.07 | jekkt | desktop theme |
| 14:56.10 | jekkt | splash screen |
| 14:56.25 | Toni_Link | jekkt: system settings |
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| 14:56.45 | Toni_Link | jekkt: do a search |
| 14:56.55 | tietze | I just updated to 4.7 (from 4.4.) and managed to receive emails. But I cannot send any message and unfortunately I don't get an error message. What can I do? |
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| 14:57.52 | Toni_Link | jekkt: in the "system settings" |
| 14:58.24 | jekkt | yes yes im there but where should be your colour? |
| 15:00.20 | Toni_Link | jekkt: i do not think you can change a color, but you can click on "Get new schemes"... |
| 15:01.12 | jekkt | Toni_Link: gen new themes failed :) with error i have to do it manuel |
| 15:01.13 | Toni_Link | jekkt: maybe your favorite color |
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| 15:02.54 | Toni_Link | jekkt: what is your distribution? |
| 15:03.22 | jekkt | slackware 13.37 |
| 15:05.06 | Toni_Link | Hum, in Slackware i don't can choose too... curios. |
| 15:05.10 | Toni_Link | ... |
| 15:06.25 | omid | GNU/linux Chakra KDE sc 4.6.5 - after the installition of Kontact when opening Kmail of Kontact the following message is shown : The Akonadi personal information management service is not operational. |
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| 15:07.05 | Toni_Link | jekkt: i'm leaving, sorry for not helping... |
| 15:07.14 | jekkt | Toni_Link: be cool:) |
| 15:07.23 | Toni_Link | bye |
| 15:07.31 | jekkt | Toni_Link: thx and thx for help |
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| 15:10.33 | diegoviola | hi |
| 15:10.58 | diegoviola | is there a way to reset the buffer in konsole (i want to lose all the data) without closing/starting my konsole or tabs? |
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| 15:12.22 | grobda24 | diegoviola, right click |
| 15:13.40 | diegoviola | great thanks |
| 15:14.53 | jekkt | what are plasma themes?:) |
| 15:15.45 | morsik | anybody can recommend some nice editor for pages? (php/html/css/js/python/django) |
| 15:15.57 | morsik | i'm asking here because i'm looking for something written in Qt |
| 15:16.15 | mfraz74 | what sort of editor are you after? |
| 15:16.32 | morsik | mfraz74: hm? |
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| 15:17.17 | mfraz74 | morsik: well kwrite etc will allow you to edit those files |
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| 15:17.29 | morsik | yeah, but i don't like it... |
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| 15:34.05 | Tatsh | i have critique immediately on konqueroro 4.7 upon starting it up |
| 15:34.15 | Tatsh | WHY does it need to have the search bar? |
| 15:34.40 | Tatsh | it's unnecessary! why can't the the location bar be the search bar at the same time? |
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| 15:37.44 | beevvy | hello, where to report a bug if kwin 4.7.0 crashes deep in mesa when using gles? kwin or mesa? |
| 15:38.03 | Tatsh | so |
| 15:38.08 | Tatsh | how do i remove the search bar? |
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| 15:38.24 | Tatsh | are you serious that it's not removable even when in file manager mode in konqueror? |
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| 15:38.47 | James147 | Tatsh: you can remove teh search bar in konq as far as I know |
| 15:39.05 | Tatsh | it's part of the location bar |
| 15:39.11 | pinotree | nope |
| 15:39.26 | pinotree | settings → configure extensions → [ ] search bar |
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| 15:39.49 | Tatsh | okay |
| 15:39.53 | Tatsh | had me scared there |
| 15:39.54 | Tatsh | thanks |
| 15:40.01 | Tatsh | i don't use dolphin |
| 15:40.02 | Tatsh | :P |
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| 15:43.48 | mgraesslin | beevvy: mesa |
| 15:44.06 | beevvy | okay, thanks |
| 15:44.14 | mgraesslin | beevvy: but only if you are using mesa 7.11 |
| 15:44.37 | beevvy | mgraesslin: actually git master, but 7.11 crashes as well |
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| 15:44.48 | mgraesslin | ok, then it's fine to report :-0 |
| 15:44.51 | mgraesslin | :-) |
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| 15:48.52 | caravel | hello there |
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| 15:49.54 | caravel | I'd like to use ECMA/qtscript to dump all plasma config (i.e. appletsrc) as js object, so I can restore them by script. Anyone donw this ? Any reason why it wouldn't be achievable ? |
| 15:50.08 | caravel | done* |
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| 15:51.34 | caravel | Another reason why I'd like to do this is that there seem to be in appletsrc file, "remains"/duplicate of older applets which were removed, lost during plasma crashes etc. So I thought it could help me get a cleaner env ? |
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| 15:54.17 | caravel | Finally, I'm suffering from plasma-desktop CPU overuse for 6 months :) which seems like a known issue related to the existence of some applets ? hence it seems a good time for me to clean this all up ^^ |
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| 16:52.47 | caravel | Nit90: this is a common issue with freenode, in Konversation you can logon from your freenode Server settings > identity > edit > edit, at the bottom put "nicksrv" in service and fill the password |
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| 16:55.35 | diagnosis | is this the right place to ask something about kopete? |
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| 16:56.59 | mcorteel | diagnosis: you might have more answers here than on #kopete |
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| 17:00.04 | diagnosis | so .. i'm new to this whole linux thing (tryed ubuntu 3 years ago or something, with gnome), i was using pidgin @ windows with an plugin .. the plugin allowed pidgin to automaticly respond with an text, everytime i was away and someone messaged me. |
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| 17:00.29 | diagnosis | is there something like that for kopete, or do i need to install pidgin? (sry for bad english) |
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| 17:03.25 | caravel | diagnosis: yes there is |
| 17:03.41 | caravel | diagnosis: get a deep look at kopete's configuration :) |
| 17:04.04 | caravel | diagnosis: hint : it's under the "behavior" tab |
| 17:04.39 | mcorteel | caravel: it doesn't send a response message, it just sets the presence message |
| 17:04.51 | James147 | :wq |
| 17:04.54 | James147 | :( |
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| 17:06.46 | fantastic001 | hi all guys, how can i join in KDE team ? i want to develop for kde :) i know c++ and Qt :) how can i do that ? |
| 17:07.12 | mcorteel | fantastic001: go to #kde-devel |
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| 17:08.04 | mcorteel | fantastic001: you can also join the channel of the app that you want to help (if you already know) |
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| 17:09.38 | caravel | diagnosis: mcorteel ok indeed, apologize for misleading -- I misread the dialogue :) I'd never use such a setting anyway myself ! (chat isn't talk, people can be patient o read the away message themselves..) |
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| 17:10.47 | mcorteel | caravel: I agree, but some people use it for work and you might want to set a message like "I'm taking a huge dump" for your boss to know :o) |
| 17:11.46 | caravel | :) |
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| 17:13.24 | caravel | is trying to play with desktop console and got a lock twice ^^ is there many people using shell scripting ? |
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| 17:16.42 | caravel | I'm trying to amend the listWidgetConfigValues.js sample provided |
| 17:17.11 | diagnosis | was afk sorry, caravel the ting is: im using this to chat with my facebook contacts, and there is no "away text" function in facebook :( |
| 17:17.35 | diagnosis | im gonna install pidgin, thank you anyways ;) |
| 17:17.51 | caravel | :) |
| 17:18.05 | Nit90 | I want to install windows xp in my HCL Laptop which already have Fedora 14. When i load xp cd in DVD drive it do not responed . what is the problem ? my DVD writer is perfect because it runs other DVDs. |
| 17:18.52 | mcorteel | Nit90: probably not a KDE issue |
| 17:19.03 | diagnosis | Nit90: you need sata driver probably. |
| 17:19.24 | Nit90 | diagnosis: i have SATA driver. |
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| 17:19.43 | diagnosis | wait .. if it's not responding at all, nevermind :/ |
| 17:19.45 | diagnosis | sry. |
| 17:20.22 | Nit90 | diagnosis: its okay. |
| 17:23.28 | diagnosis | another question: after installing nvidia drivers, my fonts in some programs (flash player menu, open office, konquerer) but they are normal in like firefox and kopete and probably most of the other things |
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| 17:23.40 | diagnosis | *are huge |
| 17:24.06 | diagnosis | so .. they are huge in open office/konquerer for example |
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| 17:24.18 | diagnosis | how do i fix that? |
| 17:24.31 | diagnosis | kde 4.6/opensuse 11.4 |
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| 17:27.34 | fantastic001 | is it possible to i set autojoin channels like in my irssi config ? i just want to transfer all autojoin channels to konversation from irssi |
| 17:28.05 | mcorteel | fantastic001: yes, you can do that when you configure the servers |
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| 17:28.39 | gaurav_sood91 | hi all. i wanted to know if there is a way to develop gtk applications on kde |
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| 17:35.12 | rindolf | Hi all. Can anyone shed any light on this problem - https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=63814 ? Why doesn't konsole save its size in the konsolerc on Mandriva Linux Cooker? |
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| 17:39.44 | caravel | Anyone familiar with plasma scripting ? Here is one way to break the desktop console and the whole plasma with it ^^ (question included !): http://fpaste.org/rh6Z/ |
| 17:41.45 | rindolf | Interesting, now it works - how curious. |
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| 17:47.43 | caravel | Mistake was included, correction here (still the same principle) http://fpaste.org/UgBh/ |
| 17:48.30 | morsik | does this patch is included in actual konsole? http://osdir.com/ml/konsole-devel/2011-01/msg00103.html |
| 17:48.44 | morsik | because i can't see blur on konsole, but it is in plasma or other windows |
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| 17:58.54 | chealer | hi. does ark have any [particular] dependencies? or, how would I answer this question myself? |
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| 18:08.37 | gaurav_sood91 | what is the library which will enable me to compile gtk applications on kde |
| 18:08.45 | morsik | gtk? |
| 18:08.45 | morsik | :D |
| 18:08.50 | morsik | just install gtk... |
| 18:09.27 | gaurav_sood91 | there is no such lib in suse repos |
| 18:09.34 | rindolf | gaurav_sood91: yes, gtk. |
| 18:09.39 | rindolf | gaurav_sood91: I'm sure there is. |
| 18:09.49 | rindolf | gaurav_sood91: maybe it's called libgtk+2.0 |
| 18:10.48 | gaurav_sood91 | that is already installed. but am getting compilation errors,saying gtk does not exist |
| 18:13.54 | Verge | Why the hell did you then ask "what library" if you already knew it? |
| 18:13.59 | Verge | Get straight to the point and only to the point |
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| 18:15.36 | Verge | Though this isn't related to KDE because you are not compiling a KDE app |
| 18:15.40 | caravel | gaurav_sood91: otherwise, I'm guessing #gtk+ would be a good place to get help on libgtk+ :) |
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| 18:16.53 | gaurav_sood91 | ok. i'll try there..:) |
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| 18:17.44 | beevvy | hi, what produt to choose if I want to report a bug in libtaskmanager? |
| 18:17.54 | beevvy | I mean product in bugzilla |
| 18:17.57 | caravel | has just discovered #plasma - bye all ^^ |
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| 18:19.37 | morsik | my kde; http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/28/2011-07-28-200928_1920x1080_scrot.png |
| 18:19.49 | morsik | btw, anybody know how can i fix tray? :\ |
| 18:19.56 | morsik | it doesn't looks good |
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| 18:24.12 | beevvy | ok I think this is procuct plasma, component widget-taskbar |
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| 18:44.19 | nsaibot | couple of seconds after i login to kde 4.7 the desktop turns black -- controlpanel & background image disappear. anyone with the same behaviour? |
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| 18:46.55 | troy | nsaibot: sounds like plasma is crashing - does ALT-F2 still work after starting KDE, and if so, can you open a terminal and try starting plasma-desktop from there? |
| 18:47.21 | nsaibot | krunner still works |
| 18:48.11 | nsaibot | troy: worked ... kinda :) |
| 18:48.45 | troy | nsaibot: well, if nothing else, now if it crashes you should see the debug output in the terminal |
| 18:49.01 | nsaibot | troy: yeah, thanks a bunch :) |
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| 19:17.34 | ioky | Hi, All I just notice a Problem with KDE 4.6.3, or maybe some other version too, When I remove the Noticification Area Wedget, and Transfer something Big , No Transfer Status is show, It there another way to have a Pop up Windows Back? like the "usual" |
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| 19:19.25 | gaurav_sood91 | try removing the notification area. it worked for me |
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| 19:21.13 | kbroulik | cool you can actually make plasma crash by just rolling your head over the keyboard |
| 19:22.02 | ioky | that's exact what I did, but no Pop up windows show the status |
| 19:22.45 | gaurav_sood91 | `hmmm. wierd. works well for me..:P |
| 19:23.32 | ioky | I am using Kubuntu 11.04 btw, and can you decribe would the Pop up windows looks like? |
| 19:25.11 | gaurav_sood91 | dont know about kubuntu. works fine on my suse distro. looks like normal popup |
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| 19:26.48 | ioky | what version of KDE are you useing? |
| 19:27.56 | gaurav_sood91 | kde4 |
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| 19:33.38 | scummos | gaurav_sood91: that's not very exact |
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| 19:34.18 | gaurav_sood91 | 4.6 to be precise |
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| 19:45.34 | Tigerboy | for some reason KDE has one crash when loading compiz -- pops up a window with a reload button and everything works-- but it is not using the configuration from ccsm... how can I fix that? |
| 19:46.23 | Tigerboy | in ccsm I have spinning cube but kde is using the default sliding windows |
| 19:46.28 | Tigerboy | as an example |
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| 19:53.18 | scummos | Tigerboy: did you try running compiz --ccsm or so |
| 19:53.38 | scummos | Tigerboy: apart from that that has nothing to do with KDE, KDE has its own compositing manager which is integrated into kwin, go ask #compiz or so :) |
| 19:53.54 | Tigerboy | ok thank you will try right now i just want kde's config to sync with the ccsm |
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| 19:54.47 | Tigerboy | well i have the kde files installed with compiz and they worked on the previous kde |
| 19:54.56 | Tigerboy | but I am checking with compiz too |
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| 19:56.39 | PussInBoots | anyone got their desktop effects disabled after upgrading to kde 4.7 with opensuse packages? |
| 19:56.59 | PussInBoots | kwin can't get any effects running |
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| 19:59.32 | Tigerboy | compiz --ccsm says unknown option --ccsm |
| 19:59.56 | henkie- | gwenview doesnt show a preview on the directory icon anymore ? |
| 20:04.46 | scummos | Tigerboy: okay, so that's probably old... ask #compiz, they'll know probably :) |
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| 20:06.29 | Tigerboy | no one is in compiz right now |
| 20:06.44 | Tigerboy | I was hoping to find someone in kde |
| 20:07.19 | Tigerboy | do you know when the kde 4.7 will be on the repos of fedora and debian? |
| 20:08.21 | rindolf | Tigerboy: ask the distribution maintainers. |
| 20:08.26 | scummos | i see 75 people in #compiz |
| 20:08.40 | Tigerboy | how do I ask them where are they listed? |
| 20:08.48 | scummos | Tigerboy: compiz has like nothing to do with kde :) |
| 20:09.26 | Tigerboy | of course it does people use kde expect compiz to work on it. |
| 20:09.51 | Tigerboy | so many rude people in irc it's come down to being a bad experience |
| 20:09.59 | scummos | Tigerboy: kwin is KDEs compositing manager |
| 20:10.04 | scummos | Tigerboy: it has nothing to do with being rude :) |
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| 20:10.18 | scummos | it's just people here are unlikely to know what you're asking for |
| 20:10.31 | scummos | Tigerboy: i'd suggest you ask in your distributions IRC channel, mine always tells me about release dates |
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| 20:11.19 | scummos | Tigerboy: it's like, you've seen nobody knows about your question, so I'm pointing you to a channel where people might know, why is that rude? |
| 20:11.51 | Tigerboy | scummos: I have come to kde when there are very helpful and knowledgable people on |
| 20:12.05 | Tigerboy | just a bad time is all |
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| 20:14.54 | scummos | Tigerboy: wait, you want ccsm's config to sync with kwin's one? is that supposed to work? |
| 20:15.00 | scummos | has never heard about that |
| 20:15.18 | Tigerboy | yes perfect scummos: |
| 20:15.30 | Tigerboy | basically so the kde file is the same or points to it |
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| 20:20.19 | glide | anyone know why the panel jumps up 3 inches on the screen at shutdown? |
| 20:21.47 | Tigerboy | scummos: it's strange I just find a very long uuid like number in the session file of .compiz with only a few things in it related to plasma-desktop |
| 20:22.04 | Tigerboy | *session-folder |
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| 20:31.05 | cypha | how can I toggle a window to show/hide with a keyboard shortcut? |
| 20:31.26 | cypha | also, how can I get a visual bell, for example when backspacing continually after no more characters behind the cursor |
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| 20:37.34 | scummos | Tigerboy: wait, so you enable shadows in kwin and it's also enabled in compiz? that's impressive |
| 20:37.48 | scummos | Tigerboy: then I misunderstood your question, sorry for that. |
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| 20:41.11 | Tigerboy | scummos: sorry for not being clear... always in the past that is how it worked... set it in ccsm and it is how it works in kde or gnome or xfce |
| 20:41.32 | mgraesslin | scummos: that is not impressive, that would be quite idiotic if it were like that. Those are kwin internal settings which we might change at any time |
| 20:41.34 | scummos | Tigerboy: wait, but you mean "how it works in kde or gnome or xfce *while running compiz*" |
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| 20:41.59 | Tigerboy | right |
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| 20:42.16 | Tigerboy | are you just arguing with me again |
| 20:42.24 | scummos | Tigerboy: no, i'm trying to understand your problem. |
| 20:42.29 | scummos | but I think i got it now. |
| 20:42.40 | Tigerboy | yes you must be running compiz |
| 20:42.49 | scummos | yes, ok. |
| 20:44.00 | scummos | so I just wanted to tell you that your issue is not related to KDE, and thus people here *might* know, but #compiz is sort of responsible for it. :) I don't know, anyways, maybe someone else here does. |
| 20:44.01 | Tigerboy | well thank you I appreciate any help I get... I just think it is something small. I don't like how linux is moving from text based config files... |
| 20:44.10 | scummos | nor do I |
| 20:44.45 | Tigerboy | i think kde has a responsibility to make things work as does compiz and we all do in a sense it is a community wide effort |
| 20:45.03 | Tigerboy | but thanks for chatting |
| 20:45.10 | scummos | that's right |
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| 20:46.28 | Tigerboy | compiz attracts a lot of new users to linux.. |
| 20:46.34 | scummos | i don't know |
| 20:46.40 | scummos | compiz attracted a lot of users in 2007 |
| 20:46.43 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: KDE Plasma Workspaces are providing an own Compositor and Window Manager. If Compiz wants to provide support for KDE Plasma Workspaces its their responsibility |
| 20:46.55 | scummos | but since the other OS also have a compositing manager it's quite... well |
| 20:46.56 | scummos | old |
| 20:46.58 | Tigerboy | compiz is still the best |
| 20:47.00 | scummos | no |
| 20:47.05 | scummos | it has most funny plugins |
| 20:47.10 | Tigerboy | no i don't agree |
| 20:47.15 | Tigerboy | it's kde as much as compiz |
| 20:47.28 | scummos | kwin is clearly better in terms of usability and stability |
| 20:47.35 | scummos | and performance ;p |
| 20:47.51 | scummos | i consider compiz a playground project |
| 20:48.02 | scummos | it's funny and cool, but not a window manager you really want to use ;P |
| 20:48.07 | Tigerboy | no i don't agree you can't do nearly what you can do in compiz |
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| 20:48.17 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: KDE does everything which is possible to ensure that Compiz is still supported - this includes that we inform Compiz devs before we implement changes |
| 20:48.18 | scummos | maybe the gnome guys build it into something ... stable |
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| 20:48.44 | Tigerboy | good are you a kde dev? |
| 20:48.52 | scummos | yes, he's the kwin developer ;p |
| 20:48.58 | ArchRocks | kde 4.7.0 desktop effects stoped working |
| 20:49.14 | Sho_ | scummos: gnome dropped support for compiz when they built their desktop shell into their window manager |
| 20:49.14 | Tigerboy | well it doesn't do any of the cube spinning etc it's just a subset of compiz |
| 20:49.16 | mgraesslin | on the other side Unity (which currently is the main target for Compiz) does nothing to enable any other window manager to work with the shell |
| 20:49.32 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: sure kwin has a cube effect |
| 20:49.32 | scummos | Tigerboy: kwin has had a cube plugin for quite a while. |
| 20:49.44 | mgraesslin | since 4.2 |
| 20:49.58 | scummos | Sho_: ah, yes, that was ubuntus unity which was built on top of compiz, wasn't it? |
| 20:50.11 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: yes and also the gnome 3 doesn't work with ati commercial drivers |
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| 20:50.36 | mgraesslin | scummos: yes and they hired the only still existing Compiz dev |
| 20:50.43 | scummos | heh, okay |
| 20:50.45 | Tigerboy | i worry things are getting bad with linux there are so many bad choices and I think it might be money drivin |
| 20:51.10 | Tigerboy | the top in the unity panel is "software for sale" |
| 20:51.11 | scummos | mgraesslin: i read you'll be at the release party in karlsruhe tomorrow? |
| 20:51.18 | scummos | Tigerboy: that's ubuntu, not linux |
| 20:51.29 | Tigerboy | well it's all part of linux gnome too |
| 20:51.45 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: you're confusing Ubuntu and Linux. If you look at the contribution charts for core projects like the kernel, X, or the toolchain, Canonical is nowhere to be found anyways |
| 20:51.45 | scummos | i don't really like ubuntu, but I don't think the overall effect of what they're doing will be bad for anyone here |
| 20:51.57 | Tigerboy | gnome is trying to attract the big commercial hardware vendors they say so in the announcements |
| 20:52.22 | Tigerboy | why is ubuntu not a part of linux and it's not just ubuntu |
| 20:52.22 | scummos | ...so? |
| 20:52.35 | scummos | Tigerboy: linux is a part of ubuntu, not the other way round |
| 20:52.36 | Tigerboy | then it becomes about money |
| 20:52.47 | mgraesslin | scummos: yes, I will |
| 20:52.54 | scummos | mgraesslin: cool, i'll also be there :) |
| 20:53.01 | Tigerboy | it is both ways but I see your point |
| 20:53.04 | Sho_ | anyway, this is starting to become off-topic, not really #kde material at this point |
| 20:53.10 | ArchRocks | Any idea's on whats going on here.... desktop effects stoped... if i disable it the reenable it.. i get the following effects could not be activated |
| 20:53.30 | Tigerboy | why can't we have spinning cube in kwin perhaps |
| 20:53.41 | Tigerboy | and negative I love negative |
| 20:53.41 | Sho_ | we have had a spinning cube in kwin for years |
| 20:53.42 | scummos | Tigerboy: kwin has that feature. just enable it. |
| 20:53.45 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: what is a "spinning" cube? |
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| 20:54.02 | Tigerboy | its called rotating cube |
| 20:54.10 | scummos | kwin even seems to support tiling now <3 |
| 20:54.12 | Tigerboy | how do I edit kwin? |
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| 20:54.23 | Tigerboy | is there a way to negative things? |
| 20:54.25 | scummos | Tigerboy: in the settings panel |
| 20:54.25 | Sho_ | System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Desktop Effects |
| 20:54.27 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: right click any window decoration -> configure |
| 20:54.37 | Sho_ | and yes, there is an invert effect too |
| 20:54.37 | Tigerboy | ok ta just a minute |
| 20:54.56 | Tigerboy | will it change the window manager or that is not needed? |
| 20:55.03 | scummos | huh? |
| 20:55.12 | Sho_ | if you're currently using compiz you have to switch kwin to ... use kwin |
| 20:55.16 | Sho_ | that ought to be somewhat obvious |
| 20:55.36 | Tigerboy | sho_; ok let me check |
| 20:55.56 | mgraesslin | alt+f2 and kwin --replace |
| 20:56.07 | Tigerboy | i think I am running kwin |
| 20:56.21 | scummos | well, if compiz doesn't work, it's quite likely you do, yes |
| 20:56.22 | Tigerboy | is it kde is forcing kwin even after I type compiz --replace |
| 20:56.26 | scummos | no |
| 20:56.32 | scummos | it's compiz crashing, probably |
| 20:56.39 | mgraesslin | :-P |
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| 20:58.08 | ArchRocks | Any idea's on whats going on here.... desktop effects stoped... if i disable it the reenable it.. i get the following effects could not be activated ?? |
| 20:58.12 | Tigerboy | ok i put desktop cube but it is still sliding |
| 20:58.34 | scummos | Tigerboy: there's a dropdown list somewhere for "effect for switching desktops" |
| 20:58.44 | Sho_ | sliding during what action? dude, you have to provide more context when you say things |
| 20:58.46 | Tigerboy | yes I am in that |
| 20:58.47 | Sho_ | we're not in your head |
| 20:58.50 | scummos | ArchRocks: no... |
| 20:58.58 | Tigerboy | nothing is changing |
| 20:59.31 | mgraesslin | ArchRocks: some info on your GPU/driver? |
| 20:59.32 | scummos | ArchRocks: do you have proper graphics drivers installed? |
| 20:59.46 | scummos | Tigerboy: did you click apply? ;P |
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| 20:59.51 | Tigerboy | it says desktop effects are active |
| 21:00.07 | Tigerboy | but nothing is changing when I change a setting and hit apply |
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| 21:00.19 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: i ask again, could you please provide more information on during what action you expect the cube to appear instead of sliding? |
| 21:00.33 | Sho_ | you are not being detailled enough to support you |
| 21:00.38 | Tigerboy | that is when you change desktops |
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| 21:01.12 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: and you have set "Effect for desktop switching" to "Desktop Cube Animation" as in this screenshot: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/28/plasma-desktopHo1559.jpg ? |
| 21:01.14 | ArchRocks | mgraesslin: scummos: nvidia geforce 8400gs with nvidia 275.21 |
| 21:01.31 | scummos | ArchRocks: maybe you should start kwin from a terminal, and look for error messages? |
| 21:01.33 | Tigerboy | Sho: yes |
| 21:01.37 | mgraesslin | ArchRocks: that should just work.... |
| 21:01.43 | ArchRocks | it was working then i rebooted the pc... and it wasent |
| 21:01.45 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: then it should work if you're really running kwin; it does here |
| 21:01.59 | Sho_ | when i switch desktops, the cube rotates from one to the other |
| 21:02.11 | ArchRocks | scummos: how do i start from terminal |
| 21:02.22 | scummos | ArchRocks: type "kwin --replace" into a terminal |
| 21:02.23 | mgraesslin | ArchRocks: kwin --replace & |
| 21:03.45 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/07/28/plasma-desktopkG1559.jpg |
| 21:03.53 | Tigerboy | ok it's weird not really working well at all |
| 21:04.19 | Tigerboy | i will figure it out |
| 21:04.31 | scummos | Tigerboy: maybe you should screenshot your settings or so |
| 21:04.32 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: start kwin from konsole like above and see the messages |
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| 21:05.23 | Tigerboy | yes i see cube now but it's not really a cube |
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| 21:05.39 | ArchRocks | scummos: http://pastebin.com/tuXMTVHd |
| 21:05.44 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: there is also a real cube mode: ctrl+f11 |
| 21:05.51 | Tigerboy | should I leave the kwin messages window open? |
| 21:06.43 | mgraesslin | ArchRocks: it would have helped if you would have told us that you use OpenGL ES |
| 21:07.10 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: that doesn't change anything and when I go to like the second face the bottom task bar disappears |
| 21:07.23 | ArchRocks | I used what was installed by default |
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| 21:07.43 | mgraesslin | ArchRocks: than complain to your distro - that is a pretty lame and wrong default |
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| 21:08.44 | ArchRocks | i asked the same ? in arch as much as i did here... with no help |
| 21:08.57 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: taskbar only works on the first face of the cube |
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| 21:09.25 | mgraesslin | ArchRocks: just tell them that using OpenGL ES as default is a no-no and that the maintainer says so |
| 21:09.32 | scummos | heh ^^ |
| 21:09.56 | mgraesslin | Tigerboy: yes, that is expected and would be exactly the same in Compiz |
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| 21:10.27 | yecril71pl | KPackageManager is unable to install sharutils-4.11.1-186.1.x86_64.rpm |
| 21:10.55 | yecril71pl | The installer window just disappears |
| 21:11.03 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: no the bar is on all faces of the cube in compiz and you can zoom the cube etc... also what is the meta key |
| 21:11.21 | scummos | usually the one with the windows logo |
| 21:11.32 | scummos | however some keyboards don't have one |
| 21:11.36 | mgraesslin | meta? kwin cube doesn't use the meta key |
| 21:11.51 | yecril71pl | or rather KPackageKit |
| 21:11.57 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: to invert desktop you must use meta key |
| 21:12.00 | mgraesslin | and of course in KWin the taskbar is shown on all cube faces |
| 21:12.36 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: you just changed your statement |
| 21:12.56 | mgraesslin | no, it's not I missunderstood what you said |
| 21:13.01 | Tigerboy | I said it is only showing on the front face and not on any other face in kwin |
| 21:13.18 | mgraesslin | the panel is shown on all faces, but the tasks applet is always the same |
| 21:13.23 | Tigerboy | no it is not |
| 21:13.33 | Tigerboy | the task bar is not there |
| 21:13.37 | Tigerboy | only on the front |
| 21:13.49 | mgraesslin | are you using some non plasma panel? |
| 21:14.03 | Tigerboy | no just the default for 4.6.5 |
| 21:14.26 | scummos | works for me |
| 21:15.03 | Tigerboy | no |
| 21:15.23 | Tigerboy | not working it pops up but then disapears |
| 21:15.30 | Tigerboy | except on the front of the cube |
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| 21:16.48 | Tigerboy | does anyone know what the meta key is |
| 21:17.26 | scummos | omg, i told you ^^ |
| 21:17.36 | scummos | directly after you asked |
| 21:17.54 | bbeck | Is it my imagination, or does Kate only allow you to go (Ctrl+g) to two digit line numbers? |
| 21:18.17 | scummos | bbeck: no, however it blocks you from typing something larger than the number of lines the file has |
| 21:18.28 | Tigerboy | omg no you didn't |
| 21:18.35 | Tigerboy | it just say works for me |
| 21:18.36 | scummos | [23:11] <scummos> usually the one with the windows logo |
| 21:18.42 | scummos | [23:11] <scummos> however some keyboards don't have one |
| 21:18.56 | Tigerboy | it is not the windows logo and yor statement is not on my screen |
| 21:19.22 | scummos | the key with the windows logo is called the meta key. and if that's not on your screen, your client is crappy. |
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| 21:19.32 | Tigerboy | well it's not working |
| 21:19.46 | scummos | okay, but still that key is the meta key. you can also ask xev about that. :) |
| 21:19.46 | Tigerboy | i have inverted turned on at it doesn't toggle inverted |
| 21:19.49 | Sho_ | scummos: "Purple IRC", i.e. Pidgin, so yeah ;) |
| 21:19.55 | scummos | Sho_: hehe :] |
| 21:20.04 | Tigerboy | well it's not working |
| 21:20.11 | bbeck | Ah, I see. HTML tidy was saying I had an error on line 751, so I pressed Ctrl+g and could only type 75. The file was only 125 lines long. |
| 21:20.20 | bbeck | thanks |
| 21:20.43 | scummos | yes, it's checking for that |
| 21:20.54 | Tigerboy | oh good |
| 21:20.59 | Tigerboy | not working for me |
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| 21:22.39 | scummos | Tigerboy: you might want to try starting kwin from a terminal, and make sure your keyboard shortcuts are correct |
| 21:23.03 | Tigerboy | I did start it from a terminal |
| 21:23.12 | scummos | okay, and no error messages? |
| 21:23.24 | Tigerboy | just kwin this and that no errors |
| 21:23.38 | Tigerboy | there is a text window that pops up |
| 21:23.38 | scummos | not like "could not enable plugin" |
| 21:23.45 | Tigerboy | no |
| 21:24.05 | mgraesslin | enable 1212 in kdebugdialog and restart kwin |
| 21:24.07 | Tigerboy | and really compiz is much better |
| 21:24.27 | scummos | Tigerboy: then go use compiz, but don't bug #kde about compiz crashing, it has nothing to do with kde ;p |
| 21:24.45 | Tigerboy | compiz works great on gnome |
| 21:24.57 | Tigerboy | don't sit in the irc and attack people |
| 21:25.01 | Tigerboy | all you do is argue |
| 21:25.01 | scummos | i don't |
| 21:25.20 | scummos | i didn't attack you, where did I |
| 21:26.18 | scummos | don't misunderstand me, I also hate people just saying stuff on IRC and not really trying to help |
| 21:26.38 | scummos | but I'm trying to help, and your descriptions ("there is a text window that pops up") are kind of insufficient for that |
| 21:27.23 | scummos | on the other hand, you seem to be more interested in discussing whether or not compiz is better than kwin than in getting kwin to work correctly for your setup |
| 21:27.23 | Tigerboy | mgraesslin: when I type it says a shell not built in--bash: enable: 1212: not a shell builtin |
| 21:27.23 | Tigerboy | bash: enable: in: not a shell builtin |
| 21:27.23 | Tigerboy | bash: enable: kdebugdialog: not a shell builtin |
| 21:28.00 | scummos | Tigerboy: you should not copy howto texts into a terminal... |
| 21:28.04 | Tigerboy | this enable 1212 in kdebugdialog |
| 21:28.11 | scummos | Tigerboy: type "kdebugdialog" and and search for kwin, and tick it |
| 21:28.16 | Sho_ | Tigerboy: you have to start "kdebugdialog" and then enable the 1212 checkbox in the window that appears |
| 21:28.21 | Tigerboy | oh i should run sudo right |
| 21:28.23 | Tigerboy | sorry |
| 21:28.24 | scummos | no. |
| 21:28.25 | Sho_ | no |
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| 21:28.30 | Sho_ | nobody said anything about sudo |
| 21:28.31 | Tigerboy | ok |
| 21:28.34 | scummos | you should run kdebugdialog and enable kwin there |
| 21:28.35 | Sho_ | :) |
| 21:29.23 | scummos | mgraesslin is the kwin developer btw, Tigerboy |
| 21:29.29 | scummos | so you should listen to what he says ;P |
| 21:30.27 | Tigerboy | it still does the same thing |
| 21:30.47 | scummos | that is not very surprising |
| 21:30.54 | scummos | you should pastebin the debug output |
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| 21:31.17 | Tigerboy | the box opens with a list of things and then I type the command into terminal and it does the same thing |
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| 21:32.02 | Tigerboy | kwin slider works great but the box cube is not good |
| 21:32.43 | scummos | what does what same thing? |
| 21:32.56 | scummos | what did you do, and what happend? |
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| 21:36.19 | Tigerboy | well it's not working... i'll just call kde thanks for your help. have a good one |
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| 21:36.51 | scummos | ... well |
| 21:36.58 | Sho_ | "anstrengend" |
| 21:37.17 | scummos | haha, yes, that pretty much nails it. |
| 21:37.46 | Sho_ | now back to kdev-python! *whips* |
| 21:37.49 | Sho_ | >:) |
| 21:37.55 | scummos | Sho_: nah, exam tomorrow |
| 21:38.02 | Sho_ | ah |
| 21:38.04 | Sho_ | good luck :) |
| 21:38.07 | scummos | thanks :) |
| 21:38.39 | scummos | but i think i might have quite some time to work on kdev-python in the next few weeks |
| 21:40.21 | Sho_ | scummos: very cool, i love following it :) |
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| 21:41.22 | scummos | Sho_: i love that you're following it, except there would be noone to report bugs *grin* |
| 21:41.30 | scummos | you're sort of the only user so far ; |
| 21:41.41 | scummos | which is not very surprising, without having an official release or so. |
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| 21:41.52 | Sho_ | scummos: me and tampakrap :) |
| 21:41.57 | Sho_ | but I like making wordy bug reports ;) |
| 21:41.58 | scummos | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.04 | scummos | ah, okay |
| 21:42.26 | Sho_ | I'm working on a Python-based project right now, so I get to see the improvements (and problems) with my daily builds pretty much |
| 21:42.42 | scummos | probably mostly the problems currently |
| 21:42.59 | scummos | the last few commits introduced a lot of unstable stuff which probably causes a lot of strange issues |
| 21:43.10 | scummos | i should start doing that kind of stuff in branches instead of master |
| 21:43.28 | Sho_ | I don't really mind, you're in alpha mode after all |
| 21:44.16 | scummos | yeah, sure. still, having a stable master branch is something which is a good idea in my opinion. |
| 21:44.31 | scummos | well, as-stable-as-easily-possible |
| 21:44.41 | Sho_ | yeah, I keep master stable in my projects too |
| 21:44.56 | Sho_ | if it breaks too badly, it impedes development :-) |
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| 21:45.26 | scummos | ;P |
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| 21:47.29 | Exilant | Why does the kde file open dialogue complain about .desktop files, "KDesktopFile::isAuthorizedDesktopFile: Access to ' "..." ' denied, not owned by root, executable flag not set. " (open file in kate, go to folder containing stray desktop file), Is that security-relevant, and if, how? |
| 21:48.20 | thiago | yes, it is security-relevant |
| 21:48.41 | thiago | a .desktop file that isn't executable, owned by root or located in a usual directory where .desktop files are, isn't trusted |
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| 21:52.36 | Exilant | suppose I develop an application that ships with a .desktop file, in the tar archive, should the file have +x, or not? before install, it will probably not work, so without x seems ok. but then kde complains if i open files there |
| 21:53.12 | thiago | it should not |
| 21:53.26 | Exilant | ok, thank you |
| 21:53.30 | thiago | when your application is compiled, installed and packaged, the .desktop file will be owned by root |
| 21:53.47 | thiago | and it will be placed in a standard place where .desktop files usually are, owned by root |
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| 22:58.27 | Zenguy_pc | i like gwenview, but does it crash often for other people? |
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| 23:11.31 | kde_pepo | Zenguy_pc, there are crashes reported, yes. Mostly look like memory corruption |
| 23:11.58 | Zenguy_pc | kde_pepo: so if I run it by itself it's less likely to crash? |
| 23:11.59 | kde_pepo | Zenguy_pc, if you can provide a valgrind backtrace, or exact steps to reproduce, that would help |
| 23:12.05 | kde_pepo | no no |
| 23:12.12 | kde_pepo | the corruption is in-process |
| 23:12.39 | kde_pepo | it might be caused by strigi stuff ... not sure |
| 23:13.00 | Zenguy_pc | Next time I'll pay more attention.. but it seems when I play video or select a photo.. itl crash sometimes.. triple clicks seems to crash it |
| 23:13.35 | Zenguy_pc | kde_pepo: I just got strigi working last week.. I've been experiencing crashes longer than that. |
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| 23:14.58 | kde_pepo | so you got the crashes even when you compiled gwenview without nepomuk support? |
| 23:16.15 | Zenguy_pc | kde_pepo: i didn;t compile it .. I installed from pclinuxos repo.. If I compiled it would I get a better experience? |
| 23:16.52 | kde_pepo | you could try disabling nepomuk (tagging) support during compilation. |
| 23:17.40 | kde_pepo | but that is just a blind guess. The crashes may be everywhere. Normal backtraces don't give any information in case of memory corruption. We need valgrind logs. |
| 23:18.26 | Zenguy_pc | yes I had crashes without nepomuk suppurt though it was enabled it wasn't working because it was missing a package.. I only enabled strigi and nepomuk for about a day to index than disbled it for more system resources\ |
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| 23:19.22 | Zenguy_pc | kde_pepo: the file i accessed weren;t being indexed by nepomuk becuase they were on external drives and other partitions |
| 23:20.13 | kde_pepo | well, gwenview uses nepomuk for tagging, even if you don't use the indexer. |
| 23:20.41 | kde_pepo | (at least the cmake log suggests that, it says it is an optional dependency) |
| 23:25.39 | Zenguy_pc | kde_pepo: can I diable tagging in gwenview |
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| 23:48.22 | bfrog | sigh... so when I start kde now it literally takes like 3 minutes before I can start a usable console |
| 23:48.32 | bfrog | on my hexacore 8gb's of ram machine |
| 23:48.44 | bfrog | I disable nepomuk, suddenly its normal again |
| 23:49.03 | bfrog | does anyone actually use nepomuk? |
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