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04:15.28Psi-JackOkay. I'm curious about something. KDE 4.6 is come a long way since the KDE 3.x days, with compositing features (labeled as "Desktop Effects"), and all. But some things still don't work very well with these enabled. A good example of something I'm looking at now that doesn't work very well with Desktop Features enabled is an old Steam game I'm playing now, Peggle. Is there a way for specific applications to temporarily turn off these effects j
04:15.29Psi-Jackust while said program is running so that it can run without issues?
04:16.27alkafoothat like... a pinball game?
04:16.32Psi-JackSorta.
04:16.53alkafoofirst result: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19956
04:17.00alkafoofor 'temporarily disable desktop effects'
04:17.24alkafoojust find that command, put the game start shortcut in a wrapper, BOOM
04:17.44Psi-Jackalkafoo: That doesn't really answer my question at all, unfortunately.
04:17.58Sho_Psi-Jack: kwin automatically enables redirection for opague fullscreen windows (i.e. most games), but a lot of the crappier drivers on Linux do unfortunately have problems with two OpenGL contexts being in use at the same time, so temporarily suspending compositing using Ctrl+Shift+F12 comes in handy
04:18.17Psi-JackI was more looking for a specific Window "rule", that could turn off effects, once said window rule is active, and auto-disable it once it's gone.
04:18.38alkafooyes I know you wanted a magical checkbox
04:18.54Psi-JackSho_: Right. In this case, it's a simple situation of Wine.
04:19.02Sho_Psi-Jack: you also want toread http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2011/04/turning-compositing-off-in-the-right-way/ which is precisely about your question
04:19.04Psi-JackLoading Steam, and Steam loading another program. ;)
04:19.20Sho_Psi-Jack: It's describing a new system that will be in 4.7 that answers your neds
04:19.22Sho_*needs
04:19.32Psi-JackSho_: Aha!
04:19.50Psi-JackSo something actually cool to look foreward to in the somewhat near future, excelent!
04:20.08alkafoothen you can flog for a new KDE again
04:20.39Psi-JackDoesn't seem that CTRL+SHIFT+F12 actually... Does anything for me, though.
04:20.49Psi-JackIt certainly isn't suspending the Desktop Effects.
04:21.51Psi-JackWhere would that specific keybinding be in the Global Keyboard Shortcuts, and under which Component?
04:22.50Psi-JackAhh, openSUSE defaults were ALT+SHIFT+F12
04:24.04alkafooI feel a yast infection coming on
04:24.29Sho_Psi-Jack: Ah sorry, guess it was Alt
04:24.37Sho_is bad with remembering keyboard shortcuts
04:24.41Psi-JackHehehe
04:25.03Sho_I'm a mouse jockey, my mouse has tons of keys and is programmed quite complicatedly, but I can't do keyboard shortcuts for life ;)
04:25.23Psi-Jackhehee
04:26.08Psi-Jackyeah. That's why I was looking for a window-rule specifically, rather than a hotkey myself. I mean, I saw I could right-click the titlebar and easily get to the section to suspend desktop effects there, but.. :)
04:27.01Psi-JackI have noticed one thing though. I had desktop effects suspended for a while, but never logged out or shut down KDE or X, and once I resumed the effects, my KPanels are not going transparent again.
04:27.07Psi-JackThey're just remaining solid.
04:28.25alkafoowhich GPU/driver?
04:28.41Sho_That's certainly not expected behavior; technically Plasma is supposed to watch for the composition manager X selection changing (a "selection" is X tech jargon) and switching rendering and theming codepaths when a composition manager comes up
04:28.53Psi-JackNvidia GeForce 260 GTX, Nvidia's propriatary driver.
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04:37.31alkafooSho_: like your name
04:37.56Sho_thanks :)
04:38.26alkafooone syllable per name?
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04:38.51Sho_alkafoo: You mean my real name? Two syllables for the first name and one for the last name
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04:39.32alkafooah, I still like it =P
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06:50.39kickbackstarted using kde 4.6.2 on fedora. konqueror might finally replace firefox for me now :D
06:50.56adomas:)
06:50.57adomasnice to hear
06:51.10kickbackgreat job, everyone :)
06:51.15adomasI also switched to Konqueror from Firefox not very long time ago ;)
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06:53.31kickbackone observation. when i type in  a url and press enter and then quickly press ctrl + t on konqueror, the page opens in the new tab instead. wondering if this is a bug or feature :D
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06:56.35adomaskickback: sounds like a feature, ctrl + t has to open a new tab :)
06:57.54kickbackadomas: yes, ctrl + t opens a new tab, but the point is that i press it AFTER pressing enter in the url bar
06:58.29kickbackother browsers load the url in the present tab and then open a blank tab when i do the same thing
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