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00:00.16Vasisthasmooph: and here's another way to do the second method: export $(sed -n '/^DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=/{p;q}' ~/.dbus/session-bus/*)
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00:01.40smoophok sed instead of cat ... I guess this is more efficent
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00:04.17[psy]my klipper search function doesnt work anymore in 4.5.1, is this correct?
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00:07.38Vasisthasmooph: actually I think my last one could be problematic... I'm looking right now and I am seeing this old dbus session id from some other machine, I have no idea what it is, it's 3 months old
00:09.29Vasisthasmooph: here we go: export $(sed -n '/^DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=/{p;q}' ~/.dbus/session-bus/$(</var/lib/dbus/machine-id)-*)
00:09.50Vasisthathere's no point using cat when you can just use < for input
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03:06.21pgjkldHow do you enter a new genre into K3b?
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03:35.12jaemI just realized I have about 18.5GB of junk in /tmp/kde-$user.  Can I just blow that all away, or will Bad Things happen?
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03:38.50junkDawgiejaem: as far as i know you will just lose the cached stuff, icons.... auto-complete lists, webpages..... if you want to be safe, rename it and log out/in..... then if everything is fine, delete
03:40.55jaemjunkDawgie: That sounds reasonable, thanks
03:42.07jaemit appears to be mostly copies of large GIMP xcf files, but it just appeared overnight, as it were, and filled my disk :/
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03:53.55junkDawgiesounds like "un-do" craziness
03:54.52junkDawgieor rather i should say.. you pay for "un-do"
03:56.59sreichusually it's in memory
03:59.10junkDawgieprolly right there.... it would be easy to fill up thou editing large graphic files
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05:30.47Hero_of_Mordoris it possible to have a file indexing system that indexes file contents?
05:33.03hagabakanepomuk should do it
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05:44.07halfiehi, is there something similar to kdistat for kde 4?
05:44.14halfie*kdirstat
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05:49.56Jucatohalfie: in Konqueror -> (when you're viewing a directory) View menu -> Mode -> File Size View
05:50.06Jucatothere's also a standalone app named "fsview"
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05:51.01halfieJucato, cool. checking out fsview
05:51.33Jucatocheck your distro packages for "konq-plugins". that should install both the standalone app and the Konqueror embedded viewer
05:52.12Jucato(you might also be interested in checking out Filelight, which gives a radial representation instead of boxes)
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06:10.03acuhow can I shut down KDE - I have only a choice of logout in Debian Squeeze
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06:18.57chetnickGTK fonts in KDE look horrible. I'm running out of ideas on how to fix this. Changing GTK Fonts in System Settings does nothing (no change whatsoever), however, fonts in Gnome on the same box look great.
06:20.08chetnickI would like to use KDE as my default DE, but Chrome and Emacs look pretty bad with those fonts, and I can't seem to find a way to fix it. Everything I tried had no effect on those fonts.
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06:40.49troychetnick: probably an environment variable that isn't being set correctly outside of gnome
06:41.33chetnicktroy: Like what?
06:41.37troychetnick: I'd load up gnome, run 'env' from a terminal to figure out what environment variables are set - save this in a text file someplace
06:41.43troychetnick: then do the same in kde, and compare
06:41.48chetnicktroy: OK.
06:42.20troychetnick: could be some variable (and I'm making a name up, so don't quote me) like GTK_USE_FREETYPE=yes or similar turned on in gnome :P could be that easy :P
06:42.23chetnicktroy: Ah one more thing I didn't mention. It looks like this is not the case for all GTK apps. I just fired up Firefox, and fonts are just fine.
06:42.46chetnicktroy: Ok, thanks. I'll check that out.
06:42.47troyfirefox does a lot of it's own thing - doesn't play by the rules :P
06:43.28troychetnick: let me know if my hunch is correct once you've checked this :)
06:44.12chetnicktroy: I sure will, I'll PM you, cause I might not do it right away. I'm downloading something at the moment.
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06:44.40troychetnick: no worries - it's just a hunch - and actually, let the channel know so they can help other people if the problem comes up again :)
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06:44.57chetnickyou got it :)
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06:45.30troychetnick: I joined this channel 13 years ago to get help - ended up learning enough over the following weeks that I could start helping others - never left since :)
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08:07.36andreimehey, i did some updates today and after a reboot when i log in i see a white background and all the plasmoids are displayed with an error that they can't be initialized; kwin effects are working, dolphin is working but it can't display konsole and the krunner appears when it is summoned but it can't execute anything
08:07.42andreimeany ideas ?
08:09.53andreime:(
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08:12.05Zbubenandreime: have you seen something relevant in ~/.xsession-errors
08:12.06Zbuben<PROTECTED>
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08:14.09andreimenope
08:14.14andreimekde is starting fine
08:14.26andreimewell, given the circumstances fine
08:14.49andreimei'm in lxde right now and downgrading kde
08:14.52andreimehope it works
08:15.25Zbubenwhen you say "can't display konsole", he appears in an unuseable form ? ou it doesn't start at all ?
08:15.30Zbubenit*
08:15.34andreimedoens't start
08:15.56Zbubenhave you tried to start it in a shell and take a look to stderr/stdout ?
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08:16.06andreimei can type in krunner but it's just an empty input line
08:16.14andreimenope haven't thought of that
08:16.18andreimei'm at work :P
08:16.23Zbubenhmmm I'd rather try that in xterm.
08:16.25Zbuben;)
08:16.29andreimedowngrade complete, must try now
08:16.31andreimebe right back
08:16.39Zbuben'k :)
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08:18.46andreimehello again
08:19.06andreimei am now in kde but i have errors
08:19.10andreimefor example
08:19.19andreimefolderview: could not find requested component
08:19.39andreimei think i am now running  4.4 mixed with 4.5
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08:20.02Zbuben:fear:
08:20.55andreimei think i'll just force update the whole kde4 base system pattern
08:20.57andreimeand kde4 de
08:21.24ZbubenI don't know lxde packages but this message usually means that the requested widget is not installed.
08:21.36andreimei'm in kde right now
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08:21.49Zbubenah, oups
08:21.58ZbubenI thoughy lxde was a distribution
08:22.06Zbubenis shameless ;)
08:22.10andreime:))
08:22.13Zbubenthought*
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08:22.20andreimeyeap, version soup
08:22.21Zbubenwhich distribution do you use ?
08:22.24andreimeopensuse
08:22.26andreime11.3
08:22.57Zbubenhmm, ok, I'd rather say that I don't know more on opensuse than lxde .. xD
08:23.14andreimeoh well
08:23.18andreimei guess i'll just play around
08:23.24andreimesee what happens
08:23.44ZbubenI'd make sure that all requested package (corresponding to wanted kde version) are installed
08:24.01Zbubenmaybe, remove ~/.kde and other config files that could be conflictual
08:24.17andreimeremoving .kde is a no for me
08:24.19andreime:))
08:24.21Zbubenok ;)
08:24.50Zbubenyou can rename it in order to backup ~/.kde/share/apps :p
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08:26.03andreimei don't think it's a settings issue
08:26.16andreimei carried the app settings from version 4.3.something
08:26.19andreimeand had no problem
08:26.30andreimefrom what i can tell it;s some sort of package soup
08:26.31Zbubenyep, it's pretty uncommun
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08:27.04ZbubenI had some settings problem, but limited to some apps. never the whole kde.
08:27.27andreimeuh
08:27.29andreimenote to self
08:27.34andreimealways update during weekends
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08:28.43andreimehere it goes again
08:28.48andreimethanks for the help
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08:33.33andreimedoesn't work
08:33.38andreimelxde for now i guess
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08:49.25OchoZero9ubuntu kubuntu .. how can i auto replace some words that I type in kyle. such as br{tab} or br{Enter} into {carat position here}
08:50.14OchoZero9which should i use kpackagekit or ubuntu manager to get software, is one prefereable over another?
08:50.26OchoZero9kile*
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09:00.56mah454Hello , I need to PDF Editor in Linux .
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09:10.37dodo___hello
09:11.11OchoZero9hi
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09:11.52dodo___ubuntu with 4.5.85 beta 2 packages, and i am having black outlines for present windows and mouseover previews on taskbar
09:12.01dodo___hey OchoZero9
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09:12.29OchoZero9hi. i know knowthing about linux  :(
09:13.05dodo___ahem you are the #kde channel for ?
09:13.23OchoZero9I had questions
09:13.36dodo___regarding kde on other platforms
09:14.00OchoZero9KDE software on linux
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09:22.43OchoZero9if i'm runing ubuntu, and i'm using kubuntu desktop what should i use for updating software, ubuntu's manager or kpacagekit
09:23.24dodo___i just use synaptic or apt-get update from cmdline
09:23.40OchoZero9thx
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09:23.51OchoZero9do you use kile?
09:24.05dodo___used to
09:24.33OchoZero9I'm trying to have braces attatched to a keyword
09:24.43OchoZero9if i type br i want to do {}
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09:26.04OchoZero9and hopefully land in the middle of it.
09:26.47OchoZero9but most of the time when i tab it completes the trigger word, only ctrlSpace makes those braces
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09:28.16dodo___its been a long time since i kile'd :)
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09:30.33OchoZero9damn
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09:32.31dpyOchoZero9: if you like gui, kpackagekit is nice, if you like console, go with apt-get
09:33.19OchoZero9i don't know console, it's my first day with linux
09:33.47dpythen stay with kpackagekit and the kde tools
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09:33.56dpythey work somewhat like OSX (Mac)
09:33.58OchoZero9k,
09:34.08dodo___ahh get a general linux book and a give it a read
09:34.09OchoZero9never tried osx
09:34.43OchoZero9i will eventually
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15:17.55doitux|mobhi, i use a imap-kolab-system for calendar in kontact which was done with kde 4.4.4 until now. Now i started to test imap-kolab in kontact via akonadi on 4.5.85 (4.6 beta1) test system. i selected the according directories in kmail and the sources appears in korganizer. But only the new written entries in todo or calendar are recognized not the old ones. Any ideas howto fix that?
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16:06.04smoophhey guys I am looking for a widget that lets me drag and drop tinyurls like the pastebin widget
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16:07.03smooph1anybody knows one like that ... prefereable a all in one solution
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16:08.29annmaI guess one needs to add tinyurl as a provider
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16:09.21smooph1I don't think its that easy because how would the widget know when to use imagehackus, tiny or pastebin
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16:09.35annmain configuration?
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16:09.58annmaone would think you would always use tiny
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16:10.45smooph1I am not sure you understand
16:11.03smooph1do you know the widget i am talking about
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16:11.43annmateh pastebin widget
16:11.48annmaI use it all the time
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16:12.13smooph1ok nice ... how would you add tinyurl to that?
16:12.17annmaI drop snapshots from ksnapshot, I drop lines from Konsole and so on
16:12.38annmain KDE 4.6 this applet has a scripted backend possibility
16:12.54annmaanyone can write a backend == a pastebin provider to it
16:13.21smooph1ok I didn't know that ... now i understand
16:13.24smooph1thanks a lot
16:14.06annmaif you write a backend you upload it to kde-files.org and then other users can get it by downloading it
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16:17.08smooph1thanks I will do that ... another question ... my akregator doesn't sort my feeds when they arrive (it included in kontact) anybody know the problem
16:17.54annmadoes not use Akregator
16:18.07annmasort you mean by date?
16:18.13annmaor by feed?
16:18.33smooph1date
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16:19.15annmasounds weird so what happens when a new feed arrives? where does it go?
16:19.16smooph1its simply weird that I cannot find anything regarding this topic and I don't know why I would be the only one
16:19.36smooph1new feeds go to the end of the line so to speak
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16:38.52smoophannma: I am running kde 4.5.1
16:39.32annmaI have no idea for Akregator, sorry :(
16:39.57smoophno sorry i am back to the pastebin thingi
16:39.59smoophsorry
16:40.03annmaah
16:40.04annmaOK
16:40.18annmaI looked at the available backends and tinyurl is not included
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16:40.25annmais the API public?
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16:41.30smoophlooks like it
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16:42.51smoophhttp://pastebin.com/e1KdBwBw
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16:43.41annmaOK should be quite easy then
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16:45.14smoophyeah ... should be ... and the scripting backend is only available under kde 4.6 you say ?
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16:48.00annmaI think so yes
16:48.27annmado you have a "Get New Providers" button in the COnfiguration dialog?
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16:50.40smoophno
16:50.42smoophannma:
16:51.06annmaso it's only 4.6
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16:51.43smoophbut its probably a feature of the widget which is just a newer version in kde4.6
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17:31.06Nece228hi will kde 4.6 rc tagging happens today?
17:31.14Nece228or beta 3?
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17:34.38toonacidQuick question. Is it possible to open executable (with x executable bit) text files inside a text editor from Dolphin? I know Gnome has this feature, but I'd love it if I could do this from Dolphin too. For my Subversion project I have to keep the svn:executable permissions off of the files so they stay as regular text and open normally from double clicking them. It works, but they honestly should have the exectuable bit on them,
17:34.39toonacidexcept for the annoyance it causes me.
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17:37.32Zbubentoonacid: launch them with /bin/sh ?
17:38.54toonacidZbuben: ?? Maybe I should restate this... I want to be able to double click executable text files from Dolphin and have them open in the text editor. Currently, what it does is execute them. Gnome has a feature for this...
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17:39.29Zbubenaaaaaaah, I did'nt understood the previous statement ;)
17:39.43toonacidZbuben: No issue, I probably could've said it better. :)
17:40.06toonacidNo problem*
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17:41.06Goliathhey
17:41.10ZbubenYou might find this pretty weird, but actually when I click on a executable textfile it's opened in a text editor :')
17:41.15Goliathdoes the system clock need ntpd daemon to sync time?
17:41.38ZbubenIt's a file extension issue ?
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17:43.21dellhi
17:43.31ZbubenGoliath: It's not a kde question, but you can synchronise once with the ntpdate command.
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17:44.09ahiemstraactually, kde has a "sync with server" setting
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17:44.39ahiemstrathat one does require the ntpd executables, I don't know if it needs them running
17:45.07KWhat_WorkAnyone have issues resizing terminals?  When I got to resize, it starts to resize, then freezes for a long peroid that starts again
17:45.15Goliathahiemstra: yes that one i am talking about
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17:47.21ahiemstraGoliath: ah, it has a somwhat helpful tooltip here
17:47.31ahiemstrayou need ntpdate or rdate for it to work
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17:48.55Goliathahiemstra: cant it work with ntp package?
17:49.40ahiemstraI don't know what the ntp package contains
17:50.22ahiemstraI believe ntp contains ntpdate so then it would work with that package
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17:52.49Goliathahiemstra: do i need though its daemon to run?
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17:52.58ahiemstraGoliath: bo
17:53.01ahiemstra*no
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17:54.19GoliathThe maintainers have decided to deprecate it in favor of only using ntpd.
17:54.28Goliathntpdate contains ntp
17:54.40Goliathntpd which is the daemon also works as a client
17:54.45Goliathso maybe i need it to run on boot
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18:36.40zmcCan someone please tell me how to disable the "fading context menus" effect?  I can't find it, and googling for "fading menus" didn't help.
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18:37.38Nece228zmc: oxygen-settings
18:39.27zmcNece228 : According to that dialog all animations re disabled.
18:40.16zmcs/re/are/
18:40.18Nece228did you try to restart kde?
18:40.44zmcNece228 : Yep.  Those have been off for a few boots now
18:40.51Nece228thats strange
18:41.00Nece228all other animations are off right?
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18:41.17zmcI just tried re-enabling and disabling them, but that didn't help either.
18:41.39zmcIf I turn off compositing completely they go away, but I'd rather not solve it that way.
18:41.59Nece228so you want disable fade effect?
18:42.08zmcyep
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18:42.43Nece228system settings > desktop effects > all effects > uncheck fade
18:43.22zmcExcellent, that did it.  My confusion was that I didn't think that applied to menus also.  Thanks!
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18:43.37Nece228no problem
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18:49.45jo_link_noirCan someone explain to me how to send a patch on git.reviewboard.kde.org?
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18:52.55annmado you have the diff?
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18:54.01annmajo_link_noir: do you have the diff
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18:54.33jo_link_noirbut I have not yet understood how
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18:54.45annmahow what
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18:54.51annmahow to make the diff?
18:55.56jo_link_noir*I understand how make the diff
18:56.23annmaOK
18:56.37annmaabout reviewboard: do you have a KDE ssh account?
18:56.48annmathrought identity.kde.org
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18:57.45jo_link_noiri did  not have account
18:58.34annmaok so did you create a reviewboard account?
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18:59.42jo_link_noirnot yet, is on  identity.kde.org ?
19:00.45Hero_of_MordorHow can I make good use of KDE features, like Activities and special window settings?
19:00.49annmadid you try directly on reviewboard?
19:02.24annmaon identity
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19:02.29jo_link_noirI did not find how to do. This request, this log, but I did not have an account
19:02.33annmajo_link_noir: yes it's on identity
19:02.42annmaI asked KDE sysadmins
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19:06.28jo_link_noirgood, I'm logged on Reviewboard
19:08.00annma:)
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19:36.15sahkois anyone aware of a setting that changes the way windows are restored from the tray?
19:36.27sahkoeg. maximised
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19:56.20razgosahko, systemsettings > window behavior > window rules
19:56.44razgothere you can add new behavior rules for certain windows
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19:59.47sahkoi see, thanks
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20:23.24Ferrelanyone aware of issues with KMail corrupting mail?
20:24.13FerrelI seem to get mail "fused" together and loose metadata 1 or two messages everytime I start it... I then shows up as new mail form December 1969
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20:24.54annmawhat kmail version?
20:24.57ErkiDerLoonyHm. I had problems with KMail 2 deleting ~2k mails on update.
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20:25.07annmakmail2 is not ready
20:25.13ErkiDerLoonyLuckily I had backups. ;)
20:25.14annmadistros shipping it are fools
20:25.38ErkiDerLoonyIt is in kde-unstable but I thought I’d give it a try.
20:26.00ErkiDerLoonyWill it be ready for 4.6?
20:26.01annmarevert
20:26.03annmano
20:26.09annmait's delayed
20:26.16ErkiDerLoonyDid that already.
20:26.25annmaI tried it to triage bugs for it but I quickly reverted
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20:26.28ErkiDerLoonyThe akonadi ressources are still there though.
20:28.16ErkiDerLoonyStill delayed for 4.6; that’s sad. I had hoped that I would finally get distribution lists (not sure about the correct English term) working again.
20:28.38ErkiDerLoonyThey never worked for me since KDE 3 days …
20:29.42FerrelI'm running version 1.13.5
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20:30.34FerrelI thought at first the issue was with our actual mail server, but It just happed with some GMail as well
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20:31.55Ferreljust opened again, and have to messages from December 1969 with (No Subject) that are each 2 or 3 messages fused together, when I click on them then get sorted off to a more recent date but are still "fused" together.
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21:32.34dev001Anyone know how to *export* a text/CSV list of all KCalendar events?  I see how to display ez enuf, but not how to export.
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21:45.13rdieter_workdev001: open korganzier, export-> icalender/vcalender formats are supported
21:45.27rdieter_workerr, file->export that is
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21:46.16rdieter_workof course, that's not csv...
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23:24.53lord_darwinwhere can I find the file klipper uses so I can access it on the console?
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23:30.48cordell~/.kde4/share/apps/klipper/history2.lst probably lord_darwin
23:31.01cordellit may slightly be different
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23:42.10lord_darwinthanks, cordell
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23:43.13lord_darwinactually, that seems to be older stuff that is not currently on the clipboard
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