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| 00:04.28 | nbnds | Hi there! Can someone tell me if KDE is suitable for an modern enterprise desktop. Enterprise means that it will be stable and reliable. Mail Client, KOffice etc, are they suitable for productive use? |
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| 00:27.40 | usr1_ | hi |
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| 00:33.24 | MoDaX | nbnds: koffice surely isn't. kmail/kontact should be fine |
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| 00:34.25 | ovi1 | hi, I was wondering if it is possible to make plasma widgets move inside the screen when I change the resolution |
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| 00:34.56 | ovi1 | ither by themselves ot through a script |
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| 01:01.58 | shepherd | Hey, when using the oxygen theme with desktop effects enabled, everything runs EXtremely slow... I have an nvidia card, someone said there was a known issue, is there some solution? |
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| 02:02.45 | murph | So i was playing a video game, and now my kde doesn't seem to understand mouse focus. It chooses something to always have mouse focus and doesn't change it even as I alt tab and stuff. has anyone experienced this? |
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| 02:03.40 | murph | keyboard focus still seems to work fine. whatever i alt-tab to the front gets it and works |
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| 02:04.51 | murph | brb |
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| 02:05.48 | murph | k, back. |
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| 02:09.11 | GabrielYYZ | murph: did you try checking System Settings > workspace appearance and behavior > window behavior? |
| 02:09.52 | GabrielYYZ | murph: the focus and window actions tabs might help you |
| 02:10.25 | murph | it's working right now becuase i just restarted kde |
| 02:10.29 | murph | and those options look sane |
| 02:10.38 | murph | but at some point it seems to stop working after some hours of use |
| 02:10.48 | murph | i'll double check then that they didn't change but i don't think that is it. |
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| 02:11.18 | GabrielYYZ | murph: that's weird, i don't think those options can change by themselves |
| 02:12.02 | GabrielYYZ | murph: not saying they can't, i just don't see how it'd be possible |
| 02:12.25 | murph | yeah, seems to be something else. like a bug in the handling of these things. |
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| 02:12.54 | GabrielYYZ | murph: could be, if it happens again, check to see if there's a bug report and, if not, file one |
| 02:13.04 | murph | will do |
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| 02:51.11 | Exilant | I'm having some trouble with kmail and my one of my imap mailboxes. despite selecting "enable interval mail check", the number of new mails in this inbox is only updated if i click on the folder or order an manual mail check. Two other mailboxes work fine, am I missing some configuration bit? (using kde 4.5.4, KMail 1.13.5, ubuntu 10.10) |
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| 04:28.14 | alesan | hi |
| 04:28.18 | alesan | I need only one thing |
| 04:28.35 | alesan | I have a laptop that I use with an external MONITOR |
| 04:29.01 | alesan | everytime I login on KDE, and I sun my script that calls xrandr to enable the vga interface... |
| 04:29.26 | alesan | the task bar is moved to the external monitor, while I prefer to keep it on the internal (LVDS) one |
| 04:29.45 | alesan | how can I convince KDE to keep the task bar on a specific screen? |
| 04:31.47 | leo_rockway | you can set up LVDS as your primary screen |
| 04:32.09 | leo_rockway | KDE 4.6 has an option for this, but I didn't find it in KDE 4.5.x |
| 04:32.30 | leo_rockway | I wrote a script instead |
| 04:32.43 | leo_rockway | xrandr --output LVDS --primary --auto --output VGA-0 --auto --left-of LVDS |
| 04:33.00 | leo_rockway | the primary screen keeps the task bar |
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| 04:43.56 | alesan | oh ok |
| 04:44.02 | alesan | yes I also use a script that is similar |
| 04:44.20 | alesan | xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --right-of LVDS1 |
| 04:46.58 | alesan | ok it seems it's working! great |
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| 05:01.29 | puff | Hi, is kdiff3 a kde app, and if so, can somebody give me some help with it? |
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| 05:07.23 | oneforall | geez konq file mode is so slow and kate too scrolling top to bottom side to side |
| 05:08.39 | leo_rockway | alesan: yes, I had that problem. KDE 4.6 has an option to pick which screen you want to be your primary, which is nice. |
| 05:09.34 | alesan | leo_rockway, but the scripted solutoin works! |
| 05:09.36 | alesan | thanks |
| 05:09.47 | leo_rockway | yup, it does. I'm glad it was useful for you. |
| 05:09.54 | alesan | thanks very much!!! |
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| 05:23.50 | puff | Oh, meld supports directory diffs now. Okay, I'll just use meld. |
| 05:25.24 | alesan | why, kdiff3 is so good |
| 05:26.18 | puff | alesan: Because I can't get kdiff3 to work. |
| 05:26.41 | alesan | "it doesn't work" is not a good way to describe a problem... |
| 05:26.44 | alesan | what happens? |
| 05:27.01 | alesan | I normally just launch it from the command line with the two or three dirs I want to compare and that's it |
| 05:29.00 | puff | Argh, my ride just called me, he's outside. |
| 05:29.51 | puff | alesan: In a nutshell, I diff the two trees, go through the tree selecting "use B", then selected a menu item... drat, thoguht it was on the merge menu, but I just started up kdiff3 and I don't see it. |
| 05:30.11 | puff | Anyway, it took me to the last file in the list and highlighted the differences, but I don't see any way to tell it to automatically apply all the changes. |
| 05:30.21 | alesan | oh ok |
| 05:30.49 | alesan | well I am not sure how to help you :) especially now that you need to run to your girlfriends |
| 05:31.14 | alesan | but... I normallu se more kdiff3 in read only mode that's it |
| 05:31.18 | puff | Well it's 12:30am here. |
| 05:32.04 | puff | Ah, well... I wanted to use it the way I used meld, go down the list, look at each diff/conflict, and either select old or new version, or manually edit it. |
| 05:32.15 | puff | Gotta run. |
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| 05:33.18 | alesan | bye |
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| 11:17.57 | \ottizen | What's the name of the notifer that generates messages when someone logs on to Kopete or when I copy a file? |
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| 11:18.38 | alpha_one_x86 | how set kdebug as post morterm debuggeur? |
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| 11:20.07 | woki | \ottizen: knotifier |
| 11:20.18 | \ottizen | Thanks |
| 11:20.33 | viric | alpha_one_x86: when a program segfaults? |
| 11:20.37 | pinotree | no such notifier |
| 11:20.41 | viric | alpha_one_x86: I don't know of kdebug; but maybe you can just enable core dumps |
| 11:20.42 | pinotree | no such knotifier, actually |
| 11:20.56 | pinotree | alpha_one_x86: which "kdebug"? |
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| 11:21.21 | pinotree | \ottizen: what are you looking for, really? |
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| 11:23.19 | alpha_one_x86 | I want same windows to say have crash, for all my program, not only the kde program |
| 11:23.49 | \ottizen | pinotree: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258785 |
| 11:24.07 | \ottizen | pinotree: Just filled out that and I needed to know what the program was called. |
| 11:24.19 | pinotree | that's correct |
| 11:24.26 | \ottizen | Good. |
| 11:24.49 | viric | alpha_one_x86: "want same windows to say have crash"? I don't understand |
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| 11:25.49 | alpha_one_x86 | I want this windows: http://techbase.kde.org/images.techbase/thumb/3/32/Kde-crash-handler.png/300px-Kde-crash-handler.png for all program (not only KDE program) |
| 11:26.50 | pinotree | even if they wanted to, the applications should invoke it |
| 11:28.27 | viric | alpha_one_x86: no idea. |
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| 11:29.50 | alpha_one_x86 | pinotree: that's not to the application to invoke all debuggeur exists, but to the OS |
| 11:30.14 | pinotree | no, currently kde applications invoke drkonqi on crash |
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| 11:37.56 | soa2ii | Is it possible to use nepomuk with an external mysql server? |
| 11:38.12 | alpha_one_x86 | Yes, but application of other type (not kde, like Qt, gtk, unknow) can't invoke drkonqi, then it's to the OS to do the invokation to have scalable system, where suggest that's? |
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| 11:38.53 | thiago_home | alpha_one_x86: to your distribution |
| 11:39.38 | alpha_one_x86 | I don't thinks, because it should not be specific to a distribution |
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| 11:40.01 | thiago_home | that's still where you must make the suggestion |
| 11:40.32 | thiago_home | there's nowhere else |
| 11:41.18 | alpha_one_x86 | ok, thanks, I have think include to KDE deamon, an kernel syscall to track every kind of application crash tracking. |
| 11:41.33 | thiago_home | an LD_PRELOAD |
| 11:43.51 | gkiagia | alpha_one_x86: drkonqi is not designed for handling non-kde crashes |
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| 11:44.29 | gkiagia | alpha_one_x86: there are other projects that do that, see apport for example |
| 11:44.41 | alpha_one_x86 | gkiagia: then, when I'm able to code into KDE, I will search to improve that's |
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| 11:45.23 | alpha_one_x86 | I will check that's |
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| 11:52.09 | \ottizen | I have two monitors connected and they both show a clone of each other. However, I want them to be so I can drag the mouse from one to another and have different windows in different monitors. When I click "Multiple Monitors" I get this, why? |
| 11:52.13 | \ottizen | My screen configuration looks like this: http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopgp1768 |
| 11:52.23 | \ottizen | http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopzi1768 |
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| 12:48.18 | bassliner | can i set konsole to always open a window in size 80x25? |
| 12:49.51 | annma | bassliner: konsole --help-kde |
| 12:49.57 | annma | see the geometry option |
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| 12:50.57 | bassliner | annma: that would still not affect ctrl-shift-n :) |
| 12:51.45 | bassliner | hm, doesn't seem to work here: QMetaObject::invokeMethod: No such method Konsole::Application::loadCommandLineOptionsForNewInstance() |
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| 12:56.00 | annma | if teh first one is 80x25 the next ones also are the same bassliner |
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| 14:02.16 | steveire_ | Hey. I just started with skrooge. How do I add a bank account? |
| 14:02.56 | annma | there's no doc steveire_? |
| 14:04.14 | steveire_ | Ah, right. I checked the doc. |
| 14:04.41 | steveire_ | I expected an action with separate dialog. I didn't notice all the stuff on the bottom of the screen |
| 14:05.03 | hellnest | annma: hello, do you run beta now? |
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| 14:05.39 | steveire_ | Hmm, When I click the Bank combo box there are two options: 'ing direct' and 'other'. Selecting other just gives me a file dialog. |
| 14:06.02 | annma | hellnest: yes! I run beta 2 |
| 14:06.46 | steveire_ | The money lineedit only has us$ in there. Maybe I have a system locale bug |
| 14:06.48 | hellnest | annma: @_@ it's released already? Is there powerdevil still exist?? I can't find it in my beta 1 |
| 14:07.04 | annma | of course it still exists |
| 14:07.28 | annma | in System Settings ->Power |
| 14:07.37 | annma | I have it in French |
| 14:07.49 | steveire_ | skrooge could really do with a few tooltips... |
| 14:08.22 | annma | yes like in System Settings most KCMs |
| 14:08.34 | annma | don't have them and are nto so intuitive |
| 14:09.01 | steveire_ | I clicked a checkbox after creating my account and the account was deleted |
| 14:09.13 | annma | ouch |
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| 14:09.34 | steveire_ | Oh, no it was just 'closed' and apparently that makes it hidden |
| 14:09.38 | annma | maybe the money went directly into the author account ;) |
| 14:10.03 | TheVirtualVortex | where can I find the latest source code of the notes applet? |
| 14:10.08 | TheVirtualVortex | I mean notes widget |
| 14:10.19 | annma | in kdeplasma-addons |
| 14:10.28 | annma | in kdeplasma-addons/applets/notes |
| 14:10.35 | annma | via websvn |
| 14:10.59 | TheVirtualVortex | ok thanks |
| 14:11.09 | TheVirtualVortex | I'm the reporter of https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=258798 |
| 14:11.34 | annma | oh |
| 14:11.40 | annma | I see |
| 14:11.45 | annma | you don't have the option? |
| 14:11.54 | TheVirtualVortex | no, it seems it disappeared from the menu |
| 14:12.05 | annma | what kde version do you have? |
| 14:12.08 | annma | I have trunk |
| 14:12.13 | TheVirtualVortex | 4.5.80 (openSUSE rpms) |
| 14:12.19 | TheVirtualVortex | I just updated |
| 14:12.31 | TheVirtualVortex | I'll try with the source code from trunk |
| 14:12.33 | annma | did you ask other opensuse users? |
| 14:12.41 | TheVirtualVortex | not yet |
| 14:12.46 | annma | ask |
| 14:12.56 | annma | I run KDE from kde sources = vanilla |
| 14:13.51 | TheVirtualVortex | asking now in #suse |
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| 14:16.00 | annma | the option is "Translucent" in English (I have the desktop in French) |
| 14:16.09 | annma | I looked in the code right now |
| 14:17.02 | TheVirtualVortex | I also have the desktop in french |
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| 14:17.44 | annma | transparent in French |
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| 14:18.48 | TheVirtualVortex | the menu name is "couleur des notes", there are a few colors |
| 14:18.51 | TheVirtualVortex | but no "transparent" |
| 14:18.53 | annma | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeplasma-addons/applets/notes/notes.cpp?revision=1173620&view=markup line 341 |
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| 14:19.28 | annma | 9 colors + transparent |
| 14:20.17 | TheVirtualVortex | oh, I only have 8 colors |
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| 14:20.32 | TheVirtualVortex | I have to go now, I'll be back later and will do some tests |
| 14:20.53 | annma | 8 colors, my mistake |
| 14:21.08 | annma | check the link above |
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| 14:36.11 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: I'm back. I see it in the source code. |
| 14:36.19 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: I need to find out what's wrong on my system |
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| 14:37.39 | annma | did you ask Suse people? |
| 14:38.14 | TheVirtualVortex | no answer |
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| 14:38.49 | TheVirtualVortex | fatal error: QGraphicsLinearLayout: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type |
| 14:38.53 | TheVirtualVortex | compile error |
| 14:39.10 | annma | you need Qt headers |
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| 14:39.35 | TheVirtualVortex | I'm trying to find out which ones |
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| 14:40.26 | annma | install all qt-devel |
| 14:40.32 | annma | no idea about open suse |
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| 14:42.40 | annma | can it be a video card support? |
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| 14:45.20 | TheVirtualVortex | I have all qt-devel |
| 14:45.37 | TheVirtualVortex | I don't think it's related to the video card |
| 14:46.27 | annma | do you test in default KDE? |
| 14:46.35 | annma | default plasma theme? |
| 14:46.36 | TheVirtualVortex | you mean the stable one? |
| 14:46.44 | TheVirtualVortex | let me try with the default plasma theme |
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| 14:46.59 | TheVirtualVortex | but I think this shouldn´t affect the menu items |
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| 14:47.10 | TheVirtualVortex | from the code I can see that all the menu items should be added |
| 14:47.13 | annma | there are no other bug reports about this as far as we looked |
| 14:47.17 | annma | yes |
| 14:47.33 | TheVirtualVortex | okay, then I´ll do more research on my side |
| 14:47.55 | annma | if you had the rpm source you could check |
| 14:48.11 | TheVirtualVortex | good idea |
| 14:48.18 | TheVirtualVortex | do you know where the plasma config files are saved? |
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| 14:48.32 | annma | in plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 14:48.33 | TheVirtualVortex | so I can remove/rename them |
| 14:48.35 | TheVirtualVortex | okay |
| 14:51.50 | TheVirtualVortex | I tried renaming it so I got the defaults, but the menu item is still missing |
| 14:51.59 | TheVirtualVortex | I'll have a look at the source rpm |
| 14:52.23 | annma | the default should be like my screenshot |
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| 14:59.06 | depesz | hi. is there any way I can start new tab in konsole, with given command, from command line? |
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| 14:59.32 | depesz | i have the konsole running, and would just like to run new tab with given command. |
| 15:00.10 | annma | it's possible with dbus |
| 15:00.28 | depesz | annma: any idea/hint/url as to where to look for it? |
| 15:00.34 | depesz | i did: qdbus org.kde.konsole |
| 15:00.43 | depesz | but it doesn't ring any bell with me :( |
| 15:01.15 | annma | it's explained a bit in the manual |
| 15:01.22 | depesz | oooh |
| 15:01.29 | annma | yes |
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| 15:02.11 | depesz | heh. it can be done without dbus :) |
| 15:02.17 | depesz | konsole --new-tab -e is the trick :) |
| 15:02.22 | depesz | annma: thanks. |
| 15:02.44 | annma | lol OK |
| 15:02.48 | annma | even easier |
| 15:03.03 | depesz | dbus is for me a point of no entry. |
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| 15:03.24 | annma | it's easy once you try |
| 15:03.29 | depesz | i have no idea how to use it, tried couple of times, failed badly all the times. am scared of it. |
| 15:03.38 | depesz | dcop was somehow much simpler. |
| 15:03.38 | annma | it *looks* scary but it is not |
| 15:03.53 | annma | dbus is more powerful |
| 15:04.24 | TheVirtualVortex | the source code from the rpm is the same |
| 15:04.28 | TheVirtualVortex | am compiling it now |
| 15:04.53 | depesz | annma: it's very likely (powerful). yet - i was able to do anything i wanted with dcop, and I so far didn't manage to do *anything* with dbus :( |
| 15:05.10 | annma | next time ask here and we'll show you |
| 15:05.13 | depesz | i really could use some howto/tutorial with examples |
| 15:05.35 | depesz | annma: if you have time now - I would greatly appreciate some example - for example the thing with konsole |
| 15:05.35 | annma | use qdbus and follow it |
| 15:05.41 | TheVirtualVortex | desti_T2: I found it: qdbus org.kde.konsole /Konsole newSession |
| 15:05.47 | TheVirtualVortex | depesz: qdbus org.kde.konsole /Konsole newSession |
| 15:06.01 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:06.06 | annma | type that in konsole |
| 15:06.08 | TheVirtualVortex | just type qdbus, and add arguments one by one |
| 15:06.14 | TheVirtualVortex | to find what's the next step |
| 15:06.18 | annma | then Enter and you get more options |
| 15:06.24 | annma | exactly |
| 15:06.28 | depesz | TheVirtualVortex: 1. how do I know I should use "/Konsole" and not another /... from "qdbus org.kde.konsole"? |
| 15:06.55 | depesz | 2. i see newsession, but I can't find a way to create new tab with custom command. |
| 15:07.07 | TheVirtualVortex | depesz: right, I had to guess it. I think usually the main interface has the same name as the program |
| 15:07.19 | TheVirtualVortex | depesz: when you type "qdbus org.kde.konsole" you can see "/Konsole" appearing in the list |
| 15:07.33 | depesz | TheVirtualVortex: ah. I was looking in /MainApplication and /Sessions. but it makes sense (main interface == name of program) |
| 15:07.40 | depesz | TheVirtualVortex: sure. |
| 15:07.51 | depesz | any idea how to run new tab with custom command form there? |
| 15:07.53 | TheVirtualVortex | depesz: for other progs it seems to be the same: example org.kde.kopete /Kopete |
| 15:07.56 | depesz | without creating special profile? |
| 15:08.05 | TheVirtualVortex | depesz: with a shell script? |
| 15:08.10 | depesz | yeah. |
| 15:08.18 | depesz | i know (now) I can: konsole --new-tab -e 'mc' |
| 15:08.23 | depesz | (that's just example) |
| 15:08.35 | depesz | but how to do the same thing with qdbus? |
| 15:08.35 | TheVirtualVortex | let's find out if dbus is up to the task ;-) |
| 15:09.08 | TheVirtualVortex | qdbus org.kde.konsole /Sessions/6 sendText test |
| 15:09.15 | TheVirtualVortex | but you have to know the session number |
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| 15:09.42 | depesz | hmm ... so I'd need first to create new session, then send text to run a command. |
| 15:09.59 | depesz | it would work, but doesn't strike me as very ... elegant. |
| 15:10.14 | TheVirtualVortex | anyway, for your usage, running konsole --new-tab etc is the best way |
| 15:11.18 | depesz | is there any tool that could list whole tree of dbus and let me search through it? |
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| 15:12.26 | depesz | hmm .. I see that newSession() returns session id, so I could do it in 2 steps. ... |
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| 15:13.57 | TheVirtualVortex | depesz: I think there is a UI tool for this |
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| 15:14.19 | TheVirtualVortex | kdbus |
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| 15:14.49 | depesz | ubuntu doesn't seem to have it :( |
| 15:14.53 | TheVirtualVortex | oh, kdbus is for kde 3.5 |
| 15:15.14 | annma | qdbusviewer |
| 15:15.16 | pinotree | qdbus (console), qdbusviewer (gui) |
| 15:15.51 | depesz | installing |
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| 15:20.51 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: weird behavior |
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| 15:20.59 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: I compiled it, same problem |
| 15:21.05 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: then I added a menu item, it didn't appear |
| 15:21.18 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: but if I remove them all and keep one, it works: there is only one remaining |
| 15:21.30 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: I'll check whether there is a limit in the menu items count |
| 15:21.39 | annma | no there is not |
| 15:21.52 | annma | TheVirtualVortex: first what you need to do is test with a new user |
| 15:21.56 | annma | NEW |
| 15:22.05 | annma | you can remove the user after the test |
| 15:22.09 | TheVirtualVortex | okay |
| 15:22.30 | annma | as I said we checked and could not find another same bug report |
| 15:22.48 | TheVirtualVortex | okay I think I'm starting to understand what is going on |
| 15:23.09 | TheVirtualVortex | I kept only one color "rose", "translucent" and a new one I added "purple" |
| 15:23.12 | TheVirtualVortex | I still only see "rose" |
| 15:23.21 | TheVirtualVortex | so it means this color name must be a reference to a color list somewhere |
| 15:23.35 | TheVirtualVortex | in some kind of central color list, and translucent must be missing there for some reason |
| 15:23.48 | TheVirtualVortex | because purple also doesn't work, and probably also doesn't exist |
| 15:23.49 | annma | Idon't think so |
| 15:24.06 | TheVirtualVortex | ok I'll check with a new user first |
| 15:24.08 | annma | you added how? |
| 15:24.11 | annma | yes |
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| 15:27.23 | TheVirtualVortex | the new user also only has "rose" |
| 15:27.30 | TheVirtualVortex | even though the source code contains "translucent" and "purple" |
| 15:30.06 | TheVirtualVortex | if (m_notesTheme.hasElement(id + "-notes")) |
| 15:30.18 | TheVirtualVortex | so I assume the theme doesn't have an element "translucent-notes" |
| 15:30.27 | TheVirtualVortex | this is why some colors are not added |
| 15:30.32 | TheVirtualVortex | continuing to investigate |
| 15:30.49 | annma | test the new user with non changed applet |
| 15:31.08 | annma | notesTheme is Plasma::svg |
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| 15:32.47 | TheVirtualVortex | ok I'll try with the new user, and also reboot, in case something is being cached in my current session |
| 15:33.11 | TheVirtualVortex | brb |
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| 15:47.07 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: re |
| 15:47.14 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: it is indeed a theme issue |
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| 15:47.28 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: my theme is the "unofficial" glassified |
| 15:48.03 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: and it seems it doesn't have the translucent color, I need to find a way to add it |
| 15:48.03 | annma | ahhh |
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| 15:48.14 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: but also, why does the color list have to depend on the theme? |
| 15:48.43 | annma | well theme is color |
| 15:48.48 | annma | color is part of theme |
| 15:48.54 | TheVirtualVortex | hmm |
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| 15:49.07 | TheVirtualVortex | but I do not consider "translucent" to be a color :-D |
| 15:49.14 | lamefun | Where can I get KDE logo in SVG? |
| 15:49.30 | annma | lamefun: look at kde.org |
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| 15:49.38 | annma | I think I saw a link the other day |
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| 15:50.45 | annma | I'll close the bug report TheVirtualVortex? |
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| 15:51.27 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: okay |
| 15:51.47 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: thanks for your assistance |
| 15:52.45 | annma | I often fix applets bugs TheVirtualVortex |
| 15:52.58 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: yes |
| 15:53.05 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: actually even the translucent mode doesn't appeal to me |
| 15:53.09 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: it still has a bord |
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| 15:53.14 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: I'd like to have a naked text |
| 15:53.28 | TheVirtualVortex | just pasted like this on the desktop (I use it as a reminder) |
| 15:53.55 | annma | well if you use a theme without translucency... |
| 15:54.12 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: it's ironic, because glassified is all about translucency |
| 15:54.17 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: everything is translucent |
| 15:54.21 | annma | lol |
| 15:54.28 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: maybe they just forgot to define a "translucent-note" property |
| 15:54.35 | annma | yes |
| 15:54.49 | TheVirtualVortex | do you know where the themes are stored? |
| 15:54.54 | TheVirtualVortex | I'll try to add it myself |
| 15:55.32 | annma | how did you install it? |
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| 15:55.38 | TheVirtualVortex | it's a opensuse rpm |
| 15:56.16 | TheVirtualVortex | if I manage to fix it, I'll tell the author |
| 15:56.29 | annma | so it's installed globally in /usr/share/ somewhere |
| 15:57.25 | TheVirtualVortex | bingo |
| 15:57.34 | TheVirtualVortex | there is a package but for some reason I installed it manually |
| 15:57.43 | TheVirtualVortex | no wonder it's outdated... maybe there was no package back then |
| 15:57.59 | TheVirtualVortex | pebkac, lol |
| 15:58.08 | TheVirtualVortex | pebcak |
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| 15:59.36 | dberg | is there a way to setup shortcuts to minimize, maximize, resize and move windows? |
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| 16:01.38 | annma | I put UPSTREAM TheVirtualVortex but I never know if it's UP or DOWN |
| 16:02.47 | bragh | how can i make kde use the xorg.conf? i've set up just one resolution, one mode, but kde still shows multiple modes and doesn't display the refresh rate that i specified. http://pastebin.com/ndaMb9xV for xorg.conf and http://pastebin.com/KWtttujn for kdm.log |
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| 16:21.54 | TheVirtualVortex | annma: the latest glassified doesn't have a translucent color neither |
| 16:22.03 | TheVirtualVortex | anyway, even if it had, it would have a border |
| 16:22.13 | TheVirtualVortex | so I hacked the widget and removed the theme painting code |
| 16:22.19 | TheVirtualVortex | now it looks like I wanted it :-) |
| 16:22.22 | annma | lol |
| 16:22.24 | annma | OK |
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| 16:22.40 | TheVirtualVortex | there should be a checkbox "disable background" |
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| 16:23.02 | annma | at that point we don't want more options... |
| 16:23.11 | annma | we want the existing ones to work |
| 16:23.16 | TheVirtualVortex | yes, true |
| 16:23.41 | annma | I am debugging another one, taht's why I say that |
| 16:23.51 | annma | the code is not the neattest I saw |
| 16:24.15 | TheVirtualVortex | I see |
| 16:25.19 | TheVirtualVortex | I'm implementing the checkbox for myself, could submit a patch later |
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| 16:27.31 | annma | yes as we are in freeze anyway |
| 16:27.41 | TheVirtualVortex | yes I saw that, bug triaging week |
| 16:27.45 | annma | no new strings until trunk is open for 4.7 |
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| 18:17.15 | bocaneri | In what file are KDE4 file associations stored? I'm having a devil of a time with buntu 10.10 trying to open URLs with Abiword and would like to go through that file. |
| 18:19.01 | pbunbun | bocaneri: There's a "File Associations" thing in System Settings |
| 18:19.12 | pbunbun | Not sure where it stores the files but should be doable with that |
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| 18:20.42 | Walex | bocaneri: that's MS-Windows terminology. Anyhow the MIME types supported by various apps are gleaned from the '.desktop' files |
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| 18:21.27 | Walex | bocaneri: a way to find that file (if any) is to modify the preferred application using the settings, and then check for recently modified files. |
| 18:21.30 | pinotree | Walex: not really |
| 18:22.02 | pinotree | part of that is with .desktop files, part not |
| 18:22.10 | pinotree | bocaneri: what is the exact issue? |
| 18:22.46 | bocaneri | The issue is clicking on links causes Abiword to fire up and load the content from the URL, rather than Firefox. |
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| 18:23.09 | bocaneri | I need to tell KDE to use Firefox rather than Abiword. |
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| 18:23.26 | Walex | just looked and it seems to be 'share/config/filetypesrc' |
| 18:23.27 | pinotree | did you change anything? |
| 18:23.45 | bocaneri | I didn't, no, but I'll bet Ubuntu did when I apt-get installed Abiword. |
| 18:24.31 | pinotree | what do you have set as "web browser" in the "default applications" system settings module? |
| 18:24.46 | bocaneri | Where is that setting? |
| 18:25.34 | pinotree | in system settings, a "default applications" module |
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| 18:27.37 | bocaneri | It had been set to "application based on contents of URL", changed it to /usr/bin/firefox. |
| 18:27.41 | bocaneri | Let's see if that works... |
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| 18:30.05 | bocaneri | Yes, as a matter of fact, you pointed me at PRECISELY what I needed. |
| 18:30.23 | pinotree | also, in system settings, open the "file association module", and select the mimetype "text/html" |
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| 18:32.01 | pinotree | what is the application at the top of the list of preferred application for text/html? |
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| 18:33.07 | bocaneri | I don't have "text/html", just "text". The list of things to go through here is pretty large. |
| 18:33.35 | pinotree | "text" is the category (a branch of the trees), "html" is the type |
| 18:33.44 | bocaneri | Under text, there's an html subcategory and IT lists "abiword" which is about to get zapped. |
| 18:34.02 | pinotree | that's the issue, yes |
| 18:34.47 | bocaneri | Not any more O:) |
| 18:35.08 | bocaneri | I had been hoping to find a file to grep, but this is good! |
| 18:35.27 | pinotree | note the previous change (in the "preferred applications" module) is the correct way to set the global kde web browser, so it's fine for you |
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| 18:37.58 | bocaneri | Not only fine, it was the actual requirement. It didn't matter where outside firefox itself I clicked on a link, it tried to open links in Abiword. |
| 18:38.15 | pinotree | yes |
| 18:38.15 | bocaneri | Very strange. |
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| 19:16.48 | Watermind | hi |
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| 19:16.52 | meoblast001 | hi |
| 19:17.02 | Watermind | I'm trying to understand if I can do something with Activities |
| 19:17.06 | meoblast001 | how do i disable the ability to click by tapping my touchpad on my laptop? |
| 19:17.18 | meoblast001 | i accidentally click while i'm in my text editor and my code gets all messed up |
| 19:17.30 | Watermind | meoblast001: you can use kde system settings |
| 19:17.41 | meoblast001 | i couldn't find it in there |
| 19:18.13 | Watermind | meoblast001: Alt+F2 touchpad |
| 19:18.19 | Watermind | meoblast001: that option should show |
| 19:18.29 | einar77 | Watermind: which version? they work differently in 4.5 and 4.6 betas |
| 19:18.31 | meoblast001 | thanks :D |
| 19:18.40 | Watermind | meoblast001: or you could do it on the panel too, which you activate on the lower left corner |
| 19:18.47 | Watermind | einar77: still on 4.5 |
| 19:18.56 | Watermind | I'm writting a thesis |
| 19:19.04 | Watermind | so I'd like an activity for that |
| 19:19.37 | einar77 | Watermind: the system is not completely document centric yet but you can arrange widgets and programs (only *running* programs) to be shown on that specific activity |
| 19:19.37 | Watermind | which would mean Konsole open in the appropriate location, Okular with my document open, and Emacs with the files open etc |
| 19:19.51 | einar77 | Watermind: the beginnings of that are in 4.6 betas |
| 19:20.00 | Watermind | einar77: I see |
| 19:20.02 | einar77 | namely, it works for runtime applications |
| 19:20.27 | einar77 | there is a library but as its API is not stable, applications aren't yet encouraged to use it (and hence be activity aware) |
| 19:20.51 | einar77 | in 4.5 you can |
| 19:20.58 | einar77 | - create and delete activities |
| 19:20.59 | Watermind | nah that doesn't help much... I wanted it to open the programs for me, and open them in the appropriate state, e.g. Konsole in my Thesis directory, Okular with my document etc |
| 19:21.16 | einar77 | Watermind: likely 4.7 material, unfortunately |
| 19:21.24 | Watermind | so the applications need to be Activity aware? |
| 19:21.27 | einar77 | yes |
| 19:21.32 | einar77 | because they need to know |
| 19:21.33 | einar77 | where they are |
| 19:21.38 | einar77 | so they can show the actual documents |
| 19:21.48 | einar77 | a KDE dev made a proof of concept work with kwrite |
| 19:21.56 | einar77 | but they're not confident yet in the API of the lib |
| 19:22.23 | einar77 | as the framework changed a LOT in 4.6 |
| 19:22.42 | einar77 | (you can have activities and stop/start them, having them remember the apps that were open when they are restarted) |
| 19:22.58 | einar77 | so the plan is to let it stabilize first |
| 19:23.26 | Watermind | not sure if I fully understand why they'd need to be aware |
| 19:23.29 | Watermind | for instance |
| 19:24.01 | einar77 | to know which documents |
| 19:24.04 | einar77 | are on which activities |
| 19:24.05 | Watermind | if I want an activity in which emacs always is open with a certain file |
| 19:24.10 | einar77 | exactly for that purpose |
| 19:24.27 | einar77 | also currently the associations are runtime, i.e. need to be done for each logins |
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| 19:24.42 | einar77 | (discussion is ongoing on how to save app associations between logout/reboots) |
| 19:24.58 | Watermind | but that should be easy... I mean it would just set the application to start "emacs file" when activated |
| 19:25.07 | Watermind | it's just a command |
| 19:25.11 | einar77 | I know it's a bit more complex than that |
| 19:25.17 | Watermind | how so? |
| 19:25.24 | einar77 | I read the mails on the MLs a while ago |
| 19:25.36 | einar77 | it would not be limited to only showing the right documents |
| 19:25.41 | einar77 | AFAIK |
| 19:26.07 | einar77 | also activities plug into nepomuk |
| 19:26.09 | einar77 | if present |
| 19:26.55 | Watermind | but doesn't this mean activities pretty much will only work with kde apps? |
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| 19:27.13 | Watermind | I understand that if you want say, an editor to be able to remeber its state between each time you run an activity, that would be tricky indeed |
| 19:27.29 | Watermind | but just starting an app with a certain argument should be doable |
| 19:27.48 | einar77 | yes, but as I said currently the session work (4.6) only works with already running apps |
| 19:27.55 | einar77 | or apps started in a specific activity |
| 19:28.11 | Watermind | einar77: right |
| 19:28.26 | Watermind | oh well... the idea looks promising |
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| 20:06.17 | sourcemaker | can I downgrade from 4.6 BETA1 back to 4.5.x? |
| 20:07.01 | pinotree | ask in the channel of your distro |
| 20:07.07 | sourcemaker | ok thx |
| 20:08.21 | annma | sourcemaker: why? |
| 20:08.27 | annma | (curiosity) |
| 20:08.59 | sourcemaker | well... I have add the BETA packages from kubuntu (bad idea) and now I have installed the BETA... |
| 20:09.35 | sourcemaker | and with the BETA1 I have too many problems |
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| 20:12.06 | annma | what problems was my question |
| 20:12.41 | sourcemaker | when I activate desktop effects... my screens is rotated 180 |
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| 20:16.35 | nsaibot | what do you guys use to watch divx streams in a browser? |
| 20:16.47 | nsaibot | which plugin that is |
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| 20:17.08 | nsaibot | vlc doesn't seem to work here at all |
| 20:17.25 | annma | sourcemaker: wow |
| 20:17.47 | annma | I never had this bug yet for the beta |
| 20:18.04 | sourcemaker | how can I fix that...I can't use a flip screen :-) |
| 20:18.19 | sourcemaker | all windows are rotated 180 |
| 20:18.27 | annma | I don't think it's a bugin the beta somehow |
| 20:18.52 | sourcemaker | and I only way to solve the problem is to disabl the flag: enable desktop effects |
| 20:19.07 | sourcemaker | well... the problem exists since update to beta1 |
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| 20:19.23 | annma | maybe your distro updated something else as well |
| 20:19.36 | sourcemaker | damm |
| 20:19.46 | sourcemaker | any idea ? |
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| 20:20.02 | rindolf | sourcemaker: does it happen with Compiz, too? |
| 20:20.36 | sourcemaker | rindolf: don't know... how can I configure this? |
| 20:20.47 | rindolf | sourcemaker: you need to install it. |
| 20:21.11 | sourcemaker | rindolf: ok... now I don't know... it's a default install from kubuntu |
| 20:21.11 | rindolf | sourcemaker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion |
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| 20:29.54 | sourcemaker | rindolf: welll.... no |
| 20:30.15 | rindolf | sourcemaker: what? |
| 20:30.22 | sourcemaker | it's seems to be a kde related to problem... |
| 20:30.29 | sourcemaker | when I start kde... everythink is fine |
| 20:30.34 | sourcemaker | the splash screen is ok |
| 20:30.51 | sourcemaker | and then... when plasma-desktop is starting... the screen rotates |
| 20:31.10 | sourcemaker | => flips180 and the desktop is unusable |
| 20:31.12 | rindolf | sourcemaker: does it also happen with Compiz? |
| 20:31.34 | sourcemaker | yes |
| 20:31.57 | annma | is it a new user? |
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| 20:32.48 | sourcemaker | it happens with both user |
| 20:32.59 | sourcemaker | I created a new user... some problem |
| 20:33.12 | sourcemaker | after playing around... it seems to be a opengl related problem |
| 20:33.29 | sourcemaker | when I define XRender as compositing type... it works fine |
| 20:33.42 | sourcemaker | switching to openGL... crash |
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| 20:46.36 | nbnds | does anyone know examples of using kde 4.x for enterprise desktop systems? |
| 20:47.46 | Sho_ | nbnds: i think the promo wiki has a collection of success stories ... vague memory though |
| 20:48.29 | nbnds | yes, but for kde 3.x |
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| 20:49.07 | cb400f | it's very normal that sysadmins complain/ask about stuff relating using kde4.x on e.g. opensuse mailing lists.. but usually they don't name their company |
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| 20:49.34 | cb400f | however I do remember one guy from some university in Freiburg |
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| 20:50.33 | annma | nbnds: tehre are universities for example |
| 20:50.59 | annma | at my husband work the admin prefers Gnome but they use lots of KDE apps |
| 20:51.01 | cb400f | not many enterprise distros have kde4.x anyway... rhel6 was only just released.. debian stable doesn't have it yet... sle has had it for about 1½ year now.. centos doesn't have it yet |
| 20:51.29 | cb400f | kubuntu lts has it though |
| 20:52.03 | annma | depends on the enterprize, at my husband work (French Meteo) they have Mandriva 10.0 already |
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| 20:55.21 | nbnds | stability is for me the most important "feature" of an enterpise desktop, no crashes when using standard software, like KMail, Koffice, Kopete, etc. |
| 20:56.12 | annma | I don't have crashes with KMail |
| 20:56.24 | annma | enterprizes won't use Kopete |
| 20:56.40 | annma | and will prefer OOorg to KOffice |
| 20:57.18 | cb400f | they might prefer thunderbird too.. and they'll ban IM ;-) |
| 20:57.27 | annma | yes |
| 20:57.32 | annma | exactly |
| 20:57.44 | annma | but tehre are lots of success stories with KDE4 |
| 20:57.58 | bocaneri | I personally strongly prefer KDE but use lots of Gnome apps, including OOo |
| 20:58.05 | annma | Kate for example is an excellent researcher tool |
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| 20:58.13 | annma | OOo is not a Gnome app |
| 20:58.16 | nbnds | intranet IM is a comon communication way in small busyness |
| 20:58.16 | pinotree | OOo is not a gnome application |
| 20:58.25 | bocaneri | No? |
| 20:58.27 | pinotree | no |
| 20:58.31 | annma | incredible what we can read in that channel |
| 20:59.06 | bocaneri | I tried to get my colleagues to use IRC or IM or something, but they wouldn't go for it. They preferred meetings. |
| 21:00.10 | rindolf | bocaneri: at my workplace we communicate using IRC a lot. |
| 21:00.18 | rindolf | current workplace that is. |
| 21:00.54 | bocaneri | Varies by workplace, I imagine. I've heard lots of places are actively trying to suppress IM use. |
| 21:01.57 | nbnds | my scenario is: small business of 4 - 8 desktops + 1 file server should make some textprocessing, and exchange files, communicate with each others and with customers via mail, or IM. they also make some sort of bookkeeping. |
| 21:03.07 | annma | we'll get to that sort of scenario in houses soon with laptops, desktops and phones |
| 21:03.44 | annma | I was amazed the other day of the number of connected devices we have |
| 21:03.52 | nbnds | computers have 1 GB DDR2 RAM, and onboard gfx |
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| 21:09.43 | CuBe0wL | hello! is there a way to tell an aplication launcher that it HAS to turn off compositing when I run it? |
| 21:14.57 | mu3en | maybe make a small script and replace the standard app launch command (kmenu) with it? |
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| 21:16.15 | mu3en | if you need to turn compositing back on after close, slightly more complex. |
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| 23:06.23 | roconnor | I have KDE 4.5, and when I reboot into single monitor (LVDS) mode from double monitor mode my desktop act like it is above all windows, so I can't see anything other than my desktop backgroud. |
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| 23:48.10 | Ken69267 | is there a way to get a list of all running applications/windows in a keypress and then choose one with the keyboard easily? [kde4.5.4/gentoo] |
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| 23:48.35 | Sho_ | alt-tab? |
| 23:49.15 | Ken69267 | that requires you to hold down a key thus unacceptable |
| 23:49.41 | Sho_ | maybe the keyboard shortcut to invoke the present windows effect |
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| 23:53.53 | XGaryG | I get this error: Select failed, server replied: A000107 NO Unknown Mailbox: ( now in authenticated state ) ( Failure ) [ Gmail ] |
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