IRC log for #kde on 20101115

00:00.02inkjetunitwindowshasyou: try searching for something.. can you see a duckduck header above the results?
00:01.11windowshasyouOk, I just typed in test, it brings up a green bar with a duck head and the Test can mean different things. Click what you meant by Test.
00:01.57windowshasyouThe bar starts out as dark green at the top and then fads into a yellowish color with a blue button with the words settings goodies spread ddg add to safari
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00:02.02windowshasyouWhat else would you like to know?
00:03.52inkjetunitwindowshasyou: the reason why my konqueror doesn't display that green bar at top :)
00:04.35windowshasyouinkjetunit: What distro are you using and are you using vanilla kde or one with the trinity patches?
00:05.15inkjetunitwindowshasyou: vanilla kde 3.5 on netbsd. i only have kdebase3 and it's dependencies installed, but is should suffice for konqueror. hmm
00:05.45TheTrashw
00:07.18inkjetunitwindowshasyou: hmm. i'll leave this for later, as other sites seem to display properly. do you know how to change the font size for menus etc?
00:07.56windowshasyouinkjetunit: Kmenuedit or System Settings should do it for you.
00:08.11inkjetunitwindowshasyou: thank you
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00:08.25windowshasyouinkjetunit: np
00:10.02inkjetunitwindowshasyou: qtconfig seems useful aswell
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00:20.45caiotiagoHi all, I have an issue with powerdevil. It is not working perfectly for an user.
00:21.10caiotiagoIt will change the brightness, but won't change profile or suspend
00:21.39caiotiagoIf I create a new user it works for the new user, but copying the powerdevilrc and powerdevilprofilesrc won't help.
00:21.57caiotiagoI've also deleted the .kde directory of this user, but powerdevil still doesn't work.
00:22.27caiotiagoIt won't work through the plasmoid, kcontrol or even using qdbus on the command line
00:22.31caiotiagobut it raises no error
00:22.40caiotiagofor instance:
00:23.07caiotiagoqdbus org.kde.powerdevil /modules/powerdevil suspend 2
00:23.16caiotiagojust return nothing and do nothing, no error and such
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00:51.15blee_laptopDoes anyone know where basket notebooks are saved?
00:51.23blee_laptopI would like to move where they get saved
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01:30.32inkjetunithmm. konqueror seems like a nice browser afterall
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02:04.13TheOnehi, i need some help to understand the pixmap item with the basename-widthxheight.extension file name format here http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/theme-format.html
02:05.43TheOnee.g. if i have different files named like background-1024x768.png what file name should write in my xml file so that kdm choose the best one?
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03:26.33blee_laptopI dont know if someone can help me
03:26.41blee_laptopbut somehow desktop 1 in my plasma environment has turned gnome!!!
03:26.51blee_laptopdont know why/when/how because i usually have windows ope
03:27.17blee_laptopbut I minimized to look at widgets and they are all gone
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03:59.08rohitjI am developing a QT application in which I want to embedded a pdf viewer. I wish to use Okular for that. However, I dont want KDE dependencies. Any tip on how I can do that?
04:00.09onteriaThere, finally got the svn build of kde up and running
04:01.15windowshasyouonteria: I just got rid of kde 4... Forgot what it was like to have a fluid system...
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06:21.00inkjetunitis it possible to hide the status bar in konqueror 3.5?
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08:24.20Hedronhi everybody, I have a question about kde and dual head setup using xrandr
08:24.48Hedronwhy kde always chooses the external monitor (when using a laptop and external display) as a primary one?
08:24.58Hedronis there a way to change this behaviour@
08:25.01Hedronis there a way to change this behaviour?
08:29.36brotHedron: well, there is a setting somewhere
08:29.45brotwher you can say where new windows should appear
08:30.01HedronI am not talking about this setting though
08:30.27HedronI mean, when you start the dual head mode, all goes directly to the external display
08:30.33Hedronno mather what this seting is
08:30.41Hedronthe panel, the apps - everything
08:30.55Hedronyou have to move them back by hand
08:31.40Hedronand the setting you are refering to is for unmanaged windows only
08:31.54bentluxHedron,  you use different resolutions in the screens ?
08:31.58Hedronyes
08:32.15Hedronthe external have greater res
08:32.45Hedronhowever in kde 3.5.10 there was a setting to setup the location of panels and all to the screen you desire
08:32.59brotah
08:33.09Hedronnow there is no such thing and from 4.5 the default setting is to move everything to external
08:33.16brotyou can move the panel to the desired display
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08:33.27brotthe thing is, they tend to move back on restart.
08:33.37HedronI know, but it it frustrating when you do it every single logon
08:33.46brotHedron: did you look if this is reported on bugs.kde.org?
08:34.01Hedronno, I have not
08:34.15HedronI do not do well wih bugzilla :-)
08:34.35brotHedron: well, try it :)
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08:34.47broti cant atm, because i am at work and dont have kde here :)
08:35.15brotyou can ask me if bugzilla wants to know something you dont understand :)
08:35.18HedronI have to reboot, updates are on their way :-
08:35.18Hedron:-)
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11:39.33doobdhi... is there anyone who can help me ... i'm using kubuntu 10.04 and my kde seems to be broken... yesterday everything worked fine and (i think) after a security fix updates things started to work weird - first i noticed that my fonts are screwed up and GIMP and virtualbox won't start... then i rebooted and now it doesn't start kde login screen but fails back to text mode... when i try startx blue kde login screen comes up for a half a s
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11:40.03doobdin upper left corner that says: "could not start kdeinit4 check your installation", and when i hit ok it returns back to text mode
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11:44.54doobdhi people i solved my problems thanks to guys on #kubuntu
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15:07.27lisandropmjavier__: just aks your question please :)
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15:23.09Guest32059hi
15:23.16Guest32059hi everybody
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15:33.06Ljrn900how can I access unsaved kwrite/kate texts from CLI?
15:33.23Ljrn900with kde3 there was a dcop cmd...
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15:41.15jadohello, i'm on kubuntu 10.10; why when i put the cursor on knetworkmanager i get "unmanaged"?
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15:43.17Ljrn900jado that's a kubuntu pro
15:43.19Ljrn900blem
15:43.28Ljrn900not kde
15:43.41jadook i'll ask on #kubuntu
15:43.41Sho_Ljrn900: qdbus org.kde.kate-<pid> /Kate/Document/<id> text
15:44.46Ljrn900Sho_, kwrite similar?
15:45.31Ljrn900hmm how do i get id
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15:45.48Sho_Ljrn900: for kwrite: qdbus org.kate-editor.kwrite-<pid> /Kate/Document/<id> text
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15:52.58Ljrn900Sho_, any way to see if doc is modified?
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15:53.39pupiii need to view the colums with the comment's file, like in window's explorer. The file are .xlm or .doc, in OO i can see in the file propieties the comments but i can't see it in the dolphin
15:54.13pupii(sorry i'm out of practice whit the english, my apologize)
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15:55.13Sho_Ljrn900: not as far as I can see
15:55.28Ljrn900:/
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15:56.16Sho_Ljrn900: what are you trying to do? maybe there is another way
15:56.52Ljrn900Sho_, save my session docs
15:57.02Ljrn900video card crashed
15:57.43Sho_Ljrn900: there are methods to save the document, does that help?
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15:59.41Ljrn900Sho_, I don't want to accidentally save somethig
16:00.26Ljrn900how can I save WM session?
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16:13.05Ljrn900can I set a timeout for qdbus?
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16:14.41Ljrn900its just hanging on one...
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16:26.17Ljrn900Sho_, can I set a timeout for qdbus? its hanging on one
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16:28.16GeForce88why is it kde can not be installed over a gnome install of ubuntu 10.10 ?
16:28.39cb400fif that's really true it's an *buntu bug
16:28.55WalexGeForce88: it can. Just type 'sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop'
16:29.02pinotreeeither way, that's a question for #kubuntu
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16:29.42GeForce88epic
16:29.45GeForce88Reading state information... Done
16:29.45GeForce88Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
16:29.45GeForce88This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
16:29.45GeForce88is only available from another source
16:29.45GeForce88E: Package 'kde' has no installation candidate
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16:30.58pinotreeand the honorable mention for the most hidden function of the day goes to... the search function of the package manager
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16:52.49sigandersonI have desktop effects turned on but the applications' bar is not transparent... is it normal?
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16:56.57cb400fsounds normal.. you mean the windeco?
16:59.16henshawis there a video of the 4.5 logout effect anywhere? mine is weird and I want to check what it's supposed to look like
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17:05.00annmahenshaw: if there is one it would be on YouTube
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17:09.50henshawannma: I swear I tried before! but renewed vigour got me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pHof9wLmBg - is that the effect at 7:25 onwards?
17:10.13annmaI never tried this effect
17:10.22annmaI am not very much into effects....
17:10.47henshawI thought it was enabled by default (well, if effects are on at all)
17:11.00henshawit's subtle, i think
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17:11.40annmait desaturates the desktop apparently
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17:13.23henshawit seems to be utterly bust on my machine. I get ghostly enlarged images of part of the desktop fading over the whole of the real desktop
17:13.48henshawbut at least I now know my breakage looks nothing like the working effects
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18:06.29maviorhi: is there anything like this one http://specto.sourceforge.net/ for KDE ?
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18:09.25Bugsonmaybe someone know why in kde I can't watch movies over samba, and players wants to download it to local disk?
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18:45.29howlymowlyhi poeple.. short question:  i created a guest-account on my computer..  now I would like to know whether it is possible to switch to a  certain user, using the commandline in a running KDE session?  this way I could add a simple one-click-button on the desktop to start a guest session...
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18:49.35annmamaybe a dbus call
18:49.51annmait's managed by ksmserver
18:50.22gdebureisn't there a runner for this ?
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18:51.31annmaI see one for Konq sessions or Kate sessions
18:52.21annmabut I don't see session management gdebure
18:52.39gdebureannma: I have one for session management
18:52.56gdebureIn french (I know you understand it :p) :
18:53.07annma:) yes
18:53.14annmamaybe your distro installed it
18:53.17gdebure"Sessions de bureau"
18:53.22annmaI run trunk with kdeplasma-addons
18:53.40gdeburethis is in archlinux, 4.5.3.
18:53.48annmaoh yes I have it, stupid me
18:53.52annmaDesktop Sessions
18:53.58gdeburethat's it :)
18:54.05annmanow that you told me what it was in French
18:54.16gdebure:D
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18:55.10annmahow does it work, it crashed krunner here ;)
18:55.31gdeburechecks...
18:56.08annma(this=0xbfc06978) at /usr/local/trunk-src/kdelibs/kdeui/dialogs/kaboutapplicationdialog.cpp:305
18:56.42annmamaybe because I did not restart kded4 after building
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18:57.33gdebureannma: it works on stable by typing "sessions" in krunner
18:57.51annmathe social desktop dialog is in cause in my crash
18:57.58gdebureannma: hmm, it has to be uppercased : SESSIONS
18:58.17gdebureswitches to trunk
18:58.18annmahowlymowly: ^^
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18:58.37annmaI think I need to restart to check this closely
18:58.54Luiji99How does one get the KDE Netbook working?  Is it a special package or configuration?
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19:02.41junkDawgieLuiji99: the netbook interface should be selectable in systemsettings>Workspace if you are using 4.5...
19:03.00Luiji99junkDawgie: thanks
19:03.58gdebure's trunk is broken, rebuilding...
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19:17.41Bugsonmaybe someone know why in kde I can't watch movies over samba, and players wants to download it to local disk?
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19:22.32luke-jrthe address book didn't work at all in 4.3, and now with 4.4, I've found this categorization feature missing… any ideas where, if anywhere, it might be?
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19:23.52daedaluzwhen will KDE be good?
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19:25.15Neremorhello!
19:25.46NeremorI cannot use icq with kopete anymore, when trying to login kopete fails with the message "Incorrect password"... But the password is correct, i checked it
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19:26.29Kame2Neremor: known https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=257008
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19:39.24PasNoxHi
19:39.47PasNoxI'm using kopete, and was just brosing the history - i was scared to see that we can't delete historic entries ???
19:39.49PasNoxany idea?
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20:43.44krZyhelp.. i cannot use hindi input in kde4.5.3
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21:13.32maviorhi: is there anything like this one http://specto.sourceforge.net/ for KDE ?
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21:21.04srednanm, i can add a ical file using akonadi, but not through "traditional kde resource" - that one must preexist
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21:30.54d34df00dHi!
21:31.00d34df00dI'm using KDE 4.5.
21:31.07d34df00dAnd just got a second monitor for my notebook today.
21:31.23d34df00dI use TwinView setup for dual monitors.
21:31.42d34df00dSo the question is how to make KDE switch desktops on both monitors not simultaneously.
21:31.59d34df00dCurrently, if I switch desktop while on one monitor, it switches the other one too.
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21:39.51TheOnehi can anybody help me with that problem? http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=91438#p177857
21:40.05TheOneit's about kdm themes
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21:42.39howlymowlyjesus christ I am having a lot of problems, today....   I use kopete together with icq..  does anyone else besides me have difficulties because it always says "wrong password"??  I tried another messenger  and I have no problems there...
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21:55.29howlymowlyplz poeple..  anyone here using kopete?
21:55.35howlymowlywith ICQ?
21:57.30pinotreeread the topic?
21:57.36pinotreeah, this is not #kopete
21:57.46pinotree"ICQ is broken - we don't know why | ..."
21:58.18TheOnepinotree: with pidgin it works, but only without ssl connections
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22:12.45arturoHi all, a question for all: My KWin+Composite is very laggy and slow, so want to know if this is normal...
22:12.53arturoI am on radeon open source + KMS
22:13.04arturoAnyone experiencing this?
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22:21.59asdfasdfasdfasdfhello im using kde 4.5.2 and kopete 1.0.80 and i cant retrieve offline messages from msn users, also i cant chat with someone who appears as Invisible while im invisible. can you help me?
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22:56.36Gentoochildhi people. Can you name a time management software that would run nicely on Linux (preferably Qt-based or even for KDE)
22:56.38Gentoochild?
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23:57.02djusticeGentoochild: kontact? worksforme..
23:57.28Gentoochildnah, she wants things like the total time spent on teaching for each months
23:57.29Gentoochild-s
23:57.39Gentoochildso it's easier to write bills and such
23:57.46djusticeah. idk then.
23:57.54djusticei seem to remember something like ktimetracker..
23:58.04djusticeand some project management thing that sounds like that..
23:58.08djusticekplato? idr..
23:58.09djusticesryz
23:58.17Gentoochildso something like karm (ktimetracker), but more useful *g*
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23:59.10Gentoochildin ktimetracker one has to start/stop the stuff manually. And though there is a way to change times manually, it's not a good solution for a time management application
23:59.24GentoochildI thought of project management software, but couldn't remember the name

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