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02:27.15 | Tekk_ | it always results in an error, but if I extract the file I can run/install it fine |
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04:35.06 | DaveWM | is there a place in kde to setup margins for screen edges ? |
04:35.35 | DaveWM | i want 1-2 pixels to be left showing of my desktop around the edges, even if i maximize an application |
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05:34.39 | leo_rockway | DaveWM: a very ugly solution would be to put panels and make them short, but wide enough to show the amount of edge you want. And then make them always visible. |
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05:39.35 | cleary_ | DaveWM: I don't have an answer either but I'm curious to know about the reason you want/need this? |
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05:40.43 | DaveWM | cleary_: i like to roll between workspaces with my mouse wheel, but on the laptop the majority of the time i'm working with windows maximized, so there's no desktop visible to roll wheel on |
05:41.03 | cleary_ | that makes sense :) |
05:41.19 | DaveWM | and if there's a 2 pixel edge around everything, i don't really have to concentrate on getting the mouse to a specific spot, just move to side and roll |
05:41.43 | DaveWM | that's how i do it when i'm using lxde or some other openbox variety |
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05:42.51 | DaveWM | for the time being i'm messing with the edge activation stuff, one corner shows all my windows to me, another corner gives me a slab of all the work spaces, and the other activates the cube, but still a little slow switching with any of those compared to just rolling your mouse wheel |
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05:43.31 | cleary_ | there should be an option somewhere for just pushing the mouse into the edge to switch workspace |
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05:46.55 | DaveWM | there is, but that's a bit annoying, its too easy to have your mouse accidentally float on an edge too long and have things jump around on you |
05:47.39 | cleary_ | yep, except I think you can adjust the delay |
05:48.20 | Sho_ | DaveWM: you can also roll your mousewheel above the pager to switch desktops btw |
05:48.41 | cleary_ | Sho_: that still requires quite accurate targeting |
05:48.43 | DaveWM | yeah, i know |
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05:51.33 | DaveWM | actually showing all the workspaces by moving mouse to upper right corner, and doing the desktkop cube from lower right corner, isnt too terribly slow switching around |
05:51.49 | DaveWM | i just like the instant gratification of just rolling mouse wheel |
05:51.50 | DaveWM | heh |
05:52.28 | Sho_ | you could make your bottom panel short a few px in one corner, the corner is easy to aim for and then you get to roll there |
05:52.29 | Sho_ | :) |
05:52.46 | DaveWM | ah... good idea |
05:53.01 | Sho_ | you could also write a trivial little application that sets up x struts to do your "invisible gap" thing, though |
05:53.08 | Sho_ | that's like 10 lines |
05:53.37 | DaveWM | well, your panel shortening idea is perfect, dunno why i didnt think of that |
05:53.54 | DaveWM | so now i just aim for bottom right and scroll away... |
05:53.55 | DaveWM | ;) |
05:54.02 | Sho_ | :) |
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05:57.14 | DaveWM | one feature ms should really think more about, workspaces that is |
05:57.44 | Sho_ | they did actually release an add-on for windows xp that added basic virtual desktop support |
05:57.48 | DaveWM | great when you're limited on monitors or screen space |
05:57.59 | DaveWM | did they? hmm |
05:58.08 | DaveWM | i had found some third party apps that added it to windows |
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05:58.27 | Sho_ | "Virtual Desktop Manager", it was part of the PowerToys collection |
05:58.33 | DaveWM | ah, ok |
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05:58.58 | DaveWM | probably don't do it as well as most linux desktops though, since its been a feature there for far longer |
05:59.08 | Sho_ | yeah, it was very basic |
05:59.17 | Sho_ | and had tons of problems with window focus iirc |
05:59.41 | DaveWM | yea i imagine there'd be some issues with that, probably why its not built right into 7 for example |
05:59.58 | DaveWM | not many software devs are concidering work spaces on windows either |
06:00.40 | DaveWM | but hey... there's aero snap!... yay! |
06:00.56 | Sho_ | which we then stole ;) |
06:01.01 | DaveWM | i think they really oversold that feature, win7 is nice, i like it, but that's certainly not the selling point |
06:01.02 | DaveWM | lol |
06:01.09 | Sho_ | added in 4.2 iirc |
06:01.16 | DaveWM | yea |
06:01.23 | Sho_ | took martin like an hour to implement or so |
06:01.55 | cleary_ | that is a feature I really miss on my gnome work machine |
06:02.19 | cleary_ | so simple, but a really good idea in this day and age of very wide high res monitors |
06:03.07 | cleary_ | less useful on my 1280x800 12" laptop where I run kde ;) |
06:03.09 | Sho_ | yeah, it was a good idea |
06:03.39 | DaveWM | i didnt mess with kde too much until recently, its really come a long ways, feels much more like a full desktop experience than anything else on linux |
06:03.59 | DaveWM | quite liking it now, got my desktop and my laptop running it atm |
06:04.31 | DaveWM | having some issues during boot up on both though, i may have solved it now, not sure, for some reason things like to get stuck on the kubuntu splash |
06:04.45 | DaveWM | doubt its kde specific, more something to do with plymouth or something else |
06:04.55 | cleary_ | it's plymouth for sure |
06:05.01 | DaveWM | cause kde isnt even started at that point, i login at console |
06:05.28 | cleary_ | there is a plymouth text mode which would probably cause less grief |
06:06.17 | DaveWM | on this laptop i went as far as to delete all the plymouth scripts in my init.d, and i added all this to grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="vga=normal nomodeset nofb text nosplash" |
06:06.50 | cleary_ | plymouth is a kernel dependency on ubuntu :( |
06:06.55 | DaveWM | seems like with those options, there should be no splash shown, yet i still get a kubuntu splash for a second or so, and every other reboot or so, it gets stuck on it for some reason |
06:07.42 | DaveWM | yeah, i think i may try to do a bare debian install, and just add kde to it |
06:07.47 | DaveWM | see how that works out |
06:08.12 | DaveWM | i just like the ubuntu repo's ;) |
06:08.33 | cleary_ | if you're after a stable release, I'd try current squeeze, which will transition to stable soon |
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06:09.22 | cleary_ | if you don't mind the rolling releases, go sid, or even look at aptosid (distro previously known as sidux) which will give you an extremely quick debian sid install |
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06:09.53 | cleary_ | wrt repos, funnily enough, that's why I prefer debian :) |
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06:13.27 | DaveWM | cleary_: well i mean more that the ubuntu repo's area really loaded with tons of stuff, and its easier to get new releases of things in ubuntu repos |
06:13.43 | cleary_ | DaveWM: I disagree on both counts |
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06:13.58 | cleary_ | most ubuntu packages are just rebuilt from those in debian sid repos |
06:14.27 | cleary_ | the ones in debian also have better qc procedures than those that end up in universe |
06:14.37 | DaveWM | i've just found in the past that there's many things i'd end up having to install from source on debian that are in the ubuntu repo's already |
06:14.50 | DaveWM | yeah, i don't doubt that |
06:14.59 | cleary_ | DaveWM: if you're working on debian stable, then that's to be expected |
06:15.14 | cleary_ | what branch were you using in the past? |
06:15.22 | DaveWM | yeah, i was thinking i was probably in stable in the past |
06:15.29 | DaveWM | i should probably go with testing next time |
06:15.30 | DaveWM | heh |
06:15.55 | cleary_ | testing is still minimum 10 days behind unstable... live dangerously ;) |
06:16.10 | DaveWM | sounds exhillerating |
06:16.12 | Sho_ | it's unfortunate that debian seems to be so lazy when it comes to kde lately |
06:16.24 | DaveWM | Sho_: what you mean ? |
06:16.48 | DaveWM | i'm liking kde enough atm, that if you tell me that there's issues with kde on debian, you might change my mind |
06:16.50 | cleary_ | Sho_: no - they are in the release freeze |
06:16.54 | DaveWM | about using debian i mean |
06:17.24 | cleary_ | Sho_: http://qt-kde.debian.net/ |
06:17.29 | cleary_ | KDE SC 4.5.1 |
06:17.42 | Sho_ | well, with both the 4.4 and 4.5 releases they started packaging it pretty damn late. other distros like fedora start packaging with the pre-releases, so they're ready on release of the final. but the debian peeps seem to wake up when a new final rolls around and then appear askind "huh, what do you mean there's new dependencies we need to package". |
06:18.31 | cleary_ | Sho_: it wasn't laziness though, iirc there was some difficult package transitions that were holding them back from getting it done in a timely fashion |
06:18.58 | cleary_ | for 4.4 at least |
06:19.03 | Sho_ | well, MoDaX's exact words when I talked to him about it once were "lack of interest" |
06:19.11 | Sho_ | but maybe he had a bad day that day. |
06:19.23 | cleary_ | having said that, I don't have exposure to that side so I'm working off what I saw and heard around the traps |
06:19.58 | cleary_ | from what I can see, there is still a bit of interest in it |
06:21.11 | Sho_ | [Sunday 14 February 2010] [01:06:42 am] <Sho_> MoDaX: still kinda surprised though, the pre-releases are also for distros to get their act together |
06:21.13 | Sho_ | [Sunday 14 February 2010] [01:06:48 am] <Sho_> starting cold with a final doesn't seem all that wise |
06:21.14 | Sho_ | [Sunday 14 February 2010] [01:08:58 am] <MoDaX> Sho_: no, I'm not surprised at all. I just didn't care about it (lack of time and interest). nobody else cared too much either |
06:21.16 | Sho_ | [Sunday 14 February 2010] [01:09:25 am] <Sho_> nobody in debian cared about packaging KDE? |
06:21.18 | Sho_ | [Sunday 14 February 2010] [01:10:36 am] <MoDaX> no |
06:21.47 | cleary_ | at some point I should look into trying to provide a little extra manpower there |
06:21.48 | Sho_ | that was around 4.4 though |
06:22.05 | Sho_ | things change fast of course, and I don't know who's on it right now actually |
06:22.30 | Sho_ | and as you pointed out they seem to have 4.5.1 now |
06:23.16 | cleary_ | from what I understand, gkiagia was the main man behind that |
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06:49.49 | lazy_bum | Hello. |
06:50.08 | Sho_ | hi lazy_bum |
06:50.17 | lazy_bum | Is there a good place to post bluedevil crash reports? |
06:50.45 | Sho_ | http://bugs.kde.org/ |
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06:53.15 | lazy_bum | Afair someone on bugs.kde pointed some irc chan and/or (?) mail list to do that. |
06:53.52 | Sho_ | the place to report bugs is the bug tracker |
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06:59.46 | EffBee | Is there a way to disable fetching of extra metadata in certain directories in Dolphin? |
07:00.33 | EffBee | I have a WebDAV mount and if I access it using webdavs:// kioslave, it's fine |
07:01.03 | EffBee | If I access it in the davfs mount point, the server is taxed and a ridiculous amount of bandwidth is sent back and forth just to fetch the metadata in the files... |
07:01.07 | EffBee | Is there a way to disable this? |
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07:07.32 | EffBee | Okay, if I disable previews the issue seems to go away |
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08:48.26 | kadet_12 | hi |
08:48.51 | kadet_12 | does someone know if there are some tricks to improve kwin performance on oss radeon driver? |
08:50.42 | kadet_12 | there are tricks for nvidia card owners, but something like this will be good for radeon owners as well |
08:51.23 | cb400f | dunno.. but you can always tweak which effects are used, and the settings of individual effects... and also consider non-kwin related factors like the oxygen widget style and oxygen windeco which have a shitload of little animations that might cause trouble |
08:53.38 | kadet_12 | cb400f: thanks, I'll give it a try |
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08:54.12 | kadet_12 | effects worked quite good in KDE 4.4.x, but there's a big amount of flickering in 4.5 |
08:54.37 | cb400f | then I guess your main suspect should be the new blur effect |
08:54.40 | kadet_12 | however, I'm using Arch, so maybe it's not related to KDE exactly, but graphic stack |
08:54.56 | kadet_12 | cb400f: blur is being disabled automatically |
08:55.06 | cb400f | right.. if you basesystem is an ever-moving quicksand it's hard to tell :-) |
08:55.09 | cb400f | ok |
08:55.16 | kadet_12 | cb400f: exactly ;) |
08:56.11 | kadet_12 | I'll wait for new mesa etc. and I'll see if it will be better |
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09:01.01 | IDHW | Good morning everyone. I'm having an issue with pam_mount, in that I want to mount a NAS through pam_mount while using login credentials that are stored on that NAS and are not the same as my login on the workstation. Anyone got an idea on how to accomplish this? |
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09:28.05 | phoenix_ | how get get sharp edges for the oxygen theme |
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11:02.42 | tsdh | Hi. I've just installed a new comic in the plasma comic widget using the "Get new comics..." button. In that dialog, it's shown as installed. Unfortunately, the comic isn't shown nor is it listed in the comic strip settings. I use KDE 4.5.1. What am I doing wrong? |
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11:16.21 | bart_ | is there any way to mass-move (mv) files using a terminalcommand when they have 'forbidden' characters? |
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11:20.50 | cb400f | do you actually want to move them? or just mass-rename? |
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11:23.23 | rosco_y | Can anyone recommend software for software Interface design? |
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11:24.22 | cb400f | qt designer |
11:24.36 | cb400f | maybe that's integrated in qt creator these days? |
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11:25.10 | RLa | http://img401.imageshack.us/i/thisdevice.png/ <- please any of kde devs, can you tell me what is "this device"? |
11:25.30 | RLa | it pops up after reboot |
11:27.16 | cb400f | better ask your distro.. kdesudo is not really a kde thing.. but a guess would be that you've ran something as root or with kdesudo and kde session management is trying to restore it |
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11:28.59 | RLa | hm, ok |
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11:30.50 | RLa | yeah found it, the message seems to be from kubuntu 10.x patched-in translation messages |
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11:37.32 | bart_ | cb400f: I want to move them from on disk to another |
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11:38.20 | bart_ | But a bitchy Mac OS X allowed to name directories like 'this is/one directory' and filenames like 'and/this/is/a . file' |
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12:09.08 | JackWinter | since i upgraded from 4.4.6 to 4.5.1 i am plagued with a missbehaving X server (nvidia), many times racing, consuming an entire core and beeing unbearably slow. still reluctant to nuke all my kde config files :) was wondering if someone else had seen something similar and knew a fix? btw compositing is turned off |
12:10.54 | pinotree | then try with a new user |
12:11.49 | JackWinter | ok, but that won't be my normal environment... so no known problems, except for the blur thing? |
12:12.47 | JackWinter | i really have no plasma stuff installed except for what's in the standard panel |
12:14.59 | ahiemstra | JackWinter: nvidia blob is the known problem |
12:15.34 | JackWinter | ahiemstra: i know, am suffering for a long time already. just don't know what to get instead... |
12:15.45 | ahiemstra | radeon ;) |
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12:16.09 | VaterGarp | The times they are a'changing... |
12:16.16 | ahiemstra | or if you dont need 3d, you could try noveau |
12:16.24 | ahiemstra | nouveau* |
12:16.31 | JackWinter | or actually i'm not suffering, so far it's been working pretty well. the biggest problem (for me) has been that the opengl driver cause audio dropouts at low latency. |
12:16.43 | VaterGarp | If you want decent graphics support, you should get yourself an ATI (!) graphics card |
12:17.00 | JackWinter | nouveua was horrible for low latency audio when i last tried (2 months ago) |
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12:18.22 | JackWinter | my aging celeron laptop with intel 810 chipset is working perfectly well in kde, even with compositing enabled |
12:18.33 | ahiemstra | right :) |
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12:28.36 | fanti | hello! where can i disable spell-checking for kmail ? |
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12:30.20 | VaterGarp | fanti: From inside the "New mail" window -> Options -> Automatic spellchecking |
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12:30.34 | fanti | VaterGarp: ah, thank you |
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12:30.58 | VaterGarp | You're welcome |
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12:34.16 | Laugarhraun | Hi |
12:34.32 | Laugarhraun | I got a problem with kmail and colored backgrounds in HTML mails |
12:34.57 | Laugarhraun | I often recieved ugly mails with a colored background and text in white |
12:35.06 | Laugarhraun | however, the background of kmail remains white |
12:35.19 | Laugarhraun | how can I configure kmail to display the color of the background |
12:35.39 | Laugarhraun | (and eventually send mails with colored backgrounds, although it seems impossible according to google) |
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12:41.32 | Laugarhraun | anyone...? |
12:42.00 | twik | question: winkde.org is down, anyone knows when it will be up again? |
12:43.04 | burgua | no idea |
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12:44.03 | twik | dl'd installer from mirror, tried to install, failed b/c couldn't mirror.lst from winkde.org |
12:44.56 | twik | q: qny way to make installer refer directly to a mirror? |
12:45.27 | JackWinter | hmm, found a post suggesting that the combination oxygen theme and nvidia does not work well and that loading another theme will solve the problem. first results are positive, but will have to run it for a while to be certain. |
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12:50.55 | cb400f | JackWinter: disable animations for the oxygen windeco too ;-) |
12:51.21 | twik | Is this the right place to ask this question: rgd winkde-installer, any way to make installer refer directly to a mirror? |
12:51.35 | cb400f | better try #kde-windows |
12:51.43 | twik | thanks |
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13:04.29 | JackWinter | well, still had some problems, but restarted kde with the elegance theme, and it seems like many problems are gone. before konversation would take 10 seconds or so before i could type in it. gone. kate is much more responsive again. hope it stays this way because i was kinda going crazy waiting for 4.5.2 :) |
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13:05.35 | JackWinter | working beautifully at the moment. |
13:05.45 | JackWinter | knocks on wood :) |
13:05.57 | cb400f | disabling all the oxygen animations in oxygen-settings goes a long way too |
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13:07.55 | JackWinter | suppose i can live with the elegance theme for a while. i actually already changed the panel to a darker one in the default theme since i like darker colours |
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13:10.37 | JackWinter | oh yeah, this is loads more responsive than what i had the last few week |
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13:44.38 | Max__ | Is smb4k developed/maintained by the KDE team? |
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13:48.08 | narugawa | hi all |
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13:49.07 | pinotree | Max__: it is developed by the smb4k people |
13:49.18 | Max__ | Ok |
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13:49.32 | cb400f | but it's developed in kde svn now right? |
13:49.44 | pinotree | yes |
13:49.46 | Max__ | No channel... |
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13:50.01 | Max__ | I'll ask here anyway. You're smart peoples... |
13:50.52 | Max__ | When I try to mount a device on my network I get "This program is not installed setuid root - "user" CIFS mounts not supported." |
13:50.58 | Max__ | Help? |
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14:01.17 | tmcguire | Is therea shortcut to hide/show the Plasma Panel? |
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14:02.05 | cb400f | there will be (I think).. will stephenson is implementing manual hiding |
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14:02.30 | cb400f | but currently no.. there's auto-hide or no hide |
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14:02.51 | cb400f | and "windows can cover" |
14:03.49 | tmcguire | thanks again, cb400f :) |
14:04.29 | cb400f | np :-) |
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14:14.58 | AlexC_ | morning |
14:15.28 | AlexC_ | I've found when creating directories within Dolphin, and in any KDE open/save dialog when creating a new directory through this - what exactly am I reporting the bug agaisnt here? |
14:15.39 | AlexC_ | s/found/found a bug |
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14:20.51 | VaterGarp | AlexC_: Ask in #kde-devel maybe |
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14:23.56 | pinotree | AlexC_: kfile, but it is not an issue, as the bug can be reassigned easily |
14:24.31 | AlexC_ | pinotree: doh, already submitted now https://bugs.kde.org/post_bug.cgi |
14:24.39 | alsuren | does anyone else here use plasma with a non-composited window manager? |
14:24.56 | AlexC_ | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251830 even |
14:25.32 | alsuren | I'm getting my windows randomly corrupted when plasma pops up those display things |
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14:27.20 | alsuren | (eg the "Desktop 1" tooltip thingie) but it doesn't happen if I turn compositing on in kwin |
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16:01.39 | SpeedVin | Hello! |
16:01.59 | spacy213 | hello speed |
16:02.03 | SpeedVin | Is there any kopete-plugin howto avalible om net? |
16:02.10 | SpeedVin | I can't find it... |
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16:05.39 | JackWinter | ah yes, my kde is still nice and fast with another theme. me very happy now :) |
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17:08.26 | whoever | hi al need some help with power managment, i am trying to set it up so that after x minuts the screen will go to standby, but what is happening is that with standby checked it power managment and dim monitor checked what happens is my box gos into a comma state and i have to restart it |
17:08.33 | whoever | can some one help |
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17:27.58 | aseigo | whoever: sounds like a (unfortunately fairly typical type of) problem with power management and suspension in linux. |
17:28.14 | aseigo | whoever: probably one of those "given your kernel version and driver mix, you just can't do those two things together" |
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17:37.34 | whoever | aseigo: but here the strage part it works fine if i use xscreensaver not kdes |
17:38.19 | whoever | what is the name of kdescreenasaver i can't find it |
17:39.46 | whoever | i think the prob is kde power managment, gnome works fine |
17:39.53 | aseigo | whoever: it's probably doing different things, triggering the problem. please report a bug against powerdevil on bugs.kde.org .. be sure to include what hardware you are using |
17:40.24 | aseigo | it could be. it could also be that it's calling different parts of the power management system or in a different order, triggering the problem |
17:40.48 | whoever | aseigo: i have no real evidence to place with it other then a complaint, is that enough |
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17:41.33 | aseigo | whoever: note the hardware, the configuration you have selected and the symptoms of the problem. that is enough. be as descriptive as possible (e.g. what a "coma" means precisely, etc) |
17:41.45 | aseigo | that'll be good enough for a start at least |
17:42.08 | aseigo | the screensaver is part of krunner, or at least the management of it is ... the screensavers themselves are separate processes |
17:42.28 | whoever | aseigo: ok thx , trying a few last ditch efforts before doing that thx |
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17:42.45 | aseigo | there's a kscreenlocker app as well that helps with that |
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18:21.46 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ,,, when i try to run kdepim .. it gives me some error report ... http://paste.opensuse.org/90307761 |
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18:27.15 | Illusioneer | so the *.desktop files that would have been icons are moved in KDE 4.x? |
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18:31.20 | aseigo | Illusioneer: "would have been icons" <-- which icons are you refering to? |
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18:32.52 | aseigo | cobra-the-joker: looks like akonadi is crashing ... try running: akonadictl status |
18:33.13 | aseigo | cobra-the-joker: if that says it isn't running then try: akonadictl start .. and then status again |
18:33.52 | cobra-the-joker | http://paste.opensuse.org/1403455 |
18:34.00 | aseigo | cobra-the-joker: if it still says it isn't running, then indeed, it is crashing. the backtrace given in that output you provided isn't very detailed; installing the debug packages for akonadi and qt maybe helpful |
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18:37.11 | Hedron | hi everybody |
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18:37.35 | Hedron | recently I am wandering about one thing regarding kde - customization |
18:37.50 | Hedron | yes, there are a lot of options for almost everything |
18:38.00 | Hedron | but I am talking about theming |
18:38.38 | Hedron | I remain under the impression, that the only way to create theme (not a qtcurve or bespin style) is to code |
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18:39.46 | Hedron | I am wandering, are there plans to introduce pixmap theming, so everyone can contribute, regardless if he/she is a programer? |
18:40.45 | cobra-the-joker | aseigo , any thing about that issue ? |
18:41.31 | Hedron | I mean something like plasma themes, but for the widgets themselves |
18:42.06 | Hedron | so the user can create images, arange them in some standart way and use them as themes |
18:43.41 | aseigo | cobra-the-joker: nothing more than what i've already said so far... |
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18:43.58 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
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18:45.35 | aseigo | Hedron: there isn't anyone working on a comprehensive solution for that afaik ... |
18:46.44 | Hedron | I personally would, but I am not so good on C++ and Qt |
18:46.52 | Hedron | just making first steps in both |
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18:53.49 | aseigo | Hedron: i honestly wouldn't bother right now. the widget styling system is likely going to change radically in the next couple of years in Qt, and doing such an engine is non-trivial, at least if the desired results are something that doesn't look like it came out of the 90s |
18:54.29 | aseigo | is personally much happier with a few great themes than a whole bunch of half-baked static themes ... |
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18:56.34 | Hedron | yes, maybe you are right, however even though oxygen is nice, it is just not enough for many users, bespin is realy hard to configure and qtcurve is almost as hard as bespin to get a good result |
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18:57.33 | Hedron | and I personally think, that there are really good gnome setups out there |
18:57.46 | Hedron | and most of them use similar theming mechanism |
18:57.55 | Hedron | images that is |
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18:58.42 | Hedron | do not get me wrong, I really like KDE, this is the reason for me to use it for the last 10 years |
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18:59.00 | Hedron | much more functional software |
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19:07.42 | Hedron | by all, have a nice evening |
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19:24.04 | Lantizia | Hey anyone got any good resources on how to make kwin themes? |
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19:24.59 | cb400f | kwin window decorations are more than just "themes".. guess you want to look at aurorae for making simple themes |
19:26.16 | Lantizia | cb400f, I just want to make the window title/borders part - the actual part the window manager uses |
19:26.36 | zoiss | hey guys. is there a way to synchronize my calendar/contacts on my nokia cellphone with kontact? |
19:27.45 | cb400f | for "one way" syncing you can prolly just send the contacts in .vcf format.. for "bidirectional" syncing I thinks not |
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19:28.38 | cb400f | maybe nokia will port their pc-suite to Qt soon :-) .. or write an appropriate akonadi resource |
19:28.59 | cb400f | .. or maybe not |
19:29.48 | zoiss | :] well I'm hoping something will be working soon using syncml |
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19:32.39 | mgraesslin | Lantizia: http://techbase.kde.org/User:Mgraesslin/Aurorae |
19:33.04 | mgraesslin | and to cb400f: nowadays KWin decorations are themeable :-) |
19:33.32 | cb400f | oh? as in since 4.5? or in trunk? |
19:34.02 | neha__ | how to get back the default settings of the panel |
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19:35.32 | cb400f | neha__: kde version? |
19:35.55 | neha__ | kde-4.4.2 |
19:36.15 | cb400f | then there's no way.. other than "resetting" your entire plasma-desktop |
19:36.28 | neha__ | its fine but how to do it |
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19:36.53 | neha__ | i tried kquitapp plasma-desktop; rm $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc; plasma-desktop . But this does not worked |
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19:37.24 | r4tune | opensuse upgraded my kde, and my task panel has moved to the other monitor, how can i make it come back on this one |
19:37.37 | cb400f | opensuse did no such thing |
19:37.45 | r4tune | sure they did |
19:37.50 | r4tune | and i just dragged it across |
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19:38.38 | neha__ | how to unmount usb in kde-4.4.2 |
19:38.55 | r4tune | make sure your not in the directory that is the usb stick |
19:39.00 | cb400f | open dolphin.. right click on the thing in the left panel |
19:39.02 | r4tune | then click the eject button in dolphin |
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19:39.32 | r4tune | im not sure about tis new panel it goes across both screens |
19:39.34 | r4tune | mental |
19:39.41 | r4tune | thinks it will grow on him |
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19:44.49 | r4tune | kde is being weird now i don't get it |
19:44.59 | r4tune | the dual monitor support has gone all wonky |
19:45.09 | r4tune | when i maximize a window it goes over both desktops |
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19:45.15 | r4tune | er monitors |
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19:45.46 | r4tune | programs that start in the centre of the screen are starting displayed with half and half on each monitor |
19:46.24 | r4tune | twiddles some options |
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19:53.53 | r4tune | i can't make it stop |
19:54.04 | r4tune | how can i make it stop using the two monitors like that |
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19:54.18 | r4tune | if i maximize a window i want it to maximize on one monitor only |
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19:54.36 | r4tune | upgraded to a newer version of kde and then this started happening |
19:55.03 | r4tune | Qt: 4.6.3 |
19:55.05 | r4tune | KDE Development Platform: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) |
19:55.06 | r4tune | KWin: 4.5.1 (KDE 4.5.1) |
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19:59.33 | cb400f | that should teach you about messing around with unsupported repos :-) .. there'll be regressions and changes |
20:01.01 | r4tune | someone was on crack when they thought this was a good idea |
20:01.08 | r4tune | heh |
20:01.22 | r4tune | guess i'll just have to downgrade and stop tracking factory |
20:01.33 | r4tune | i can't work like this |
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20:04.09 | robinr | where are the addressboosks configured? |
20:04.13 | r4tune | 3 packages to upgrade, 224 to downgrade, 1 to remove, 226 to change vendor. |
20:04.14 | r4tune | Overall download size: 435.8 MiB. After the operation, 48.7 MiB will be freed. |
20:04.15 | r4tune | Continue? [y/n/?] (y): y |
20:04.17 | r4tune | heh |
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20:04.23 | robinr | kmail has one, the addressbook another and these seem unable to communicate |
20:05.02 | robinr | a problem is that I can edit what's in the Kaddressbook, but not use it in kmail |
20:05.15 | robinr | and what is in kmail, I cannot edit |
20:05.28 | robinr | any ideas? |
20:05.52 | r4tune | still kde 4.5.1 was pretty cool until this monitor thing went mental |
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20:06.04 | r4tune | i'm looking forward to getting it back on my system |
20:06.05 | r4tune | :) |
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20:06.18 | Phoul | is there a way to get more screensavers for kde4 |
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20:11.40 | robinr | is there any hope for KDE? |
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20:13.45 | r4tune | hey it stopped |
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20:13.59 | r4tune | it's a bug, it only happened because i switched to a VT while kwin was loading |
20:14.18 | r4tune | i restarted kde without doing that and it's not going whacky anymore |
20:15.12 | r4tune | sweet |
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20:16.32 | robinr | Aah, googled for "kmail disaster" and found it |
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20:17.33 | robinr | apparently I'm an idiot that don't understand how good the program is :( |
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20:36.18 | Phoul | is there a way to get more screensavers for kde4 |
20:38.07 | Phoul | :P |
20:38.31 | cb400f | http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=30 |
20:38.47 | cb400f | what distro are you using? .. I have hundreds of those things out of the box |
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20:39.37 | Phoul | opensuse for kde4 |
20:40.15 | linux_op | is it possible to have vista/win7 type icons in gnome by that I mean on mouse over the icon turns into a block |
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20:42.21 | Phoul | lol your asking a gnome question in a kde channel |
20:42.22 | Phoul | funny |
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20:43.03 | linux_op | Phoul: #gnome is dead |
20:43.11 | Phoul | Yea well #kde isnt gona help xD |
20:43.18 | linux_op | hehe |
20:43.23 | Phoul | Your have more luck with #linux |
20:43.31 | linux_op | what does kde stand for?. |
20:43.31 | Phoul | going to a specific channel for another DE isnt gona get you far |
20:43.38 | linux_op | can't seem to find the meaning in wikipedia |
20:44.07 | linux_op | its not on their website |
20:44.08 | szal | it used to be 'K Desktop Environment', but this 'long name' was dropped recently |
20:44.22 | Phoul | It is on wikipedia aswell |
20:45.02 | linux_op | oww |
20:45.03 | linux_op | found it |
20:45.08 | linux_op | its named after the dragon |
20:45.42 | linux_op | does compiz work well in kde?. |
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20:48.35 | ungethym | linux_op: KDE Plasma Desktop has it's own window manager kwin with similar effects like compiz. |
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20:51.58 | linux_op | is gnome 3 trying to copy kde's activity feature?. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/GNOME_Shell.png |
20:52.10 | linux_op | or is that something completely different |
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20:52.20 | pinotree | something to ask in a gnome channel, not in a kde one |
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20:53.10 | pinotree | ps: the gnome irc channels are on irc.gnome.org, not on freenode |
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22:06.01 | mbana | how do i get 9,5 and the font size in kate |
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22:09.33 | mbana | hello? |
22:09.38 | ompaul | mbana: how about clicking on tools and then |
22:10.32 | ompaul | mbana: sorry, click on settings and then fonts and type 9.5 not 9.0 |
22:10.52 | mbana | i tried that |
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22:14.37 | ompaul | mbana: my attitude to the fonts however is similar to this article, http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/41260 it may be that you only get those fonts in html docs I can't see how a .c file is going to embed and make use of font info :) |
22:14.41 | szal | mbana: maybe you didn't try hard enough, works like a charm in KWrite.. don't intend to install Kate now though just to check |
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22:15.07 | szal | ompaul: that's an editor setting anyway, not a document setting |
22:15.56 | mbana | what _are_ you talking about |
22:16.03 | mbana | im trying to use a 9.5 mono font |
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22:16.34 | JackWinter | how do i add additional languages to kde? spellchecking etc? |
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22:17.41 | szal | mbana: if it's a bitmap font, the size is hardcoded, so you can only choose what it offers you as a size |
22:18.08 | mbana | this is a kde issue. in emacs i can use 9.5 as the font size. it's dejavu sans mono |
22:18.12 | mbana | or kate issue |
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22:20.59 | szal | mbana: what version anyway? |
22:21.21 | mbana | kate 3.2.2 kde 4.3.2 |
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22:24.12 | ompaul | is running 3.4.5 / 4.4.5 I can manipulate the fonts as required so I can't comment on your version as I don't have it installed |
22:24.25 | mbana | are talking about kate here? |
22:24.28 | ompaul | yes |
22:24.39 | mbana | can u show me a screenshot please |
22:24.41 | szal | works problem-free in Kate 3.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5) |
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22:26.51 | mbana | where is the setting stored? i'll change it manually |
22:27.41 | szal | mbana: you too should have Settings -> Configure Kate |
22:28.15 | mbana | i do |
22:28.23 | mbana | but it doesn't allow me to enter 9.5 |
22:28.29 | mbana | where is that stored on disk |
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22:29.41 | szal | mbana: perhaps you should upgrade your KDE instead of looking for dirty hacks ;) |
22:30.01 | Torch | agrees with szal. |
22:30.19 | Torch | mbana: however, it's in $HOME/.kde/share/config/kateschemarc |
22:31.09 | ompaul | mbana: it works on the version I have and I can overtype 9.0 with 9.5 given the versions stated, please see as you wanted http://imagebin.ca/view/K7NhuI.html |
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22:33.23 | mbana | ah crap. didn't work. i;ll look at upgrading |
22:33.25 | mbana | thank you all |
22:33.38 | Torch | mbana: support for fractional font sizes was added for kde 4.4, IIRC. |
22:33.52 | pinotree | 4.5 |
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22:36.40 | Torch | pinotree: the 4.4.0 tag seems to have it though |
22:36.47 | Torch | http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.4.0/kdelibs/kdeui/fonts/kfontchooser.cpp?view=log |
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22:37.15 | pinotree | oh, time flies... |
22:37.20 | pinotree | headdesks |
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22:37.51 | Torch | pinotree: ;-) |
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22:52.21 | mbana | when does that new ubuntu come out |
22:54.09 | ompaul_ | 1010 about the 20th on a thursday |
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22:59.26 | mbana | i think i might upgrade to the lts 10.04 |
22:59.29 | mbana | that should do it right? |
22:59.50 | ompaul_ | no idea running debian sid in the form of aptosid |
23:00.56 | Torch | mbana: #kubuntu |
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23:15.08 | arielmt | hi. i'm using kde 4.4.2 on ubuntu 10.04, and i'm using kde's fish protocol to connect to another ubuntu 10.04 machine. i'm able to load files fine in programs like kwrite/kate, but whenever i save a file, the client side stalls with no errors, just a progress bar moving like a ceylon's eye, and the file on the server side gets truncated to zero bytes. what am i doing wrong? |
23:16.00 | James147_ | arielmt: try using sftp instead of fish |
23:16.05 | cleary | hi arielmt - I've found fish a bit unreliable over the last 12months or so, could I recommend trying the direct replacement sftp? |
23:16.31 | James147_ | cleary: :D |
23:16.37 | arielmt | do i just format the url as sftp://myserver/path/to/my/file.txt instead of fish:// ? |
23:16.50 | cleary | arielmt: correct |
23:16.51 | pinotree | yes |
23:16.55 | James147_ | arielmt: yup |
23:17.43 | cleary | arielmt: another tool you may be interested in, man gvfs-mount |
23:18.50 | cleary | combined with gvfs-fuse, you can mount your sftp machine, and provide standard posix access via ~/.gvfs/<mount-point> |
23:19.04 | cleary | so you aren't tied to sftp aware applications |
23:20.28 | cleary | eg gvfs-mount sftp://myuser@myserver:port/ |
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23:21.04 | arielmt | thanks |
23:21.06 | cleary | ls -l ~/.gvfs/sftp\ for\ user\ on\ myserver/ |
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23:29.12 | Torch | notes that gvfs is a gnome tech thingy. |
23:30.11 | arielmt | aye |
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23:30.26 | Torch | as a non-de-solution, there's sshfs. |
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