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| 00:33.05 | Moult | is there a recommended book for learning gui programming with qt and C++ for kde? |
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| 00:55.05 | redeeman | im having the problem that i cant really seem to select the alsa output device to use in system settings for phonon |
| 00:55.11 | redeeman | it doesnt even show my onboard pci one, even though thats what it plays out of |
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| 00:57.36 | HandyGandy | How can I find out what version of KDE I am using? |
| 01:00.01 | mikeplus64 | PrettymuchanyKDEapp -> Help -> About KDE |
| 01:00.32 | Teratogen | errm, how can I change the horizontal refresh rate? |
| 01:00.40 | Teratogen | running slackware kde 4.4.3 |
| 01:00.45 | Teratogen | slackware 13 |
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| 01:01.45 | Teratogen | oh wait found it |
| 01:01.46 | Teratogen | thanks |
| 01:08.02 | HandyGandy | I'm running kde 4.5 RC1 what happened to my cashew? |
| 01:08.08 | Teratogen | I ate it! |
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| 01:10.07 | mikeplus64 | You actually /want/ that thing? |
| 01:10.08 | mikeplus64 | lol |
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| 01:10.37 | HandyGandy | Teratogen: Thanks for your suggestion on who to ignore. |
| 01:10.53 | HandyGandy | mikeplus64: Without it how do I configure things? |
| 01:11.15 | HandyGandy | Besides after about a year with it, it kinda grew on me. |
| 01:11.23 | mikeplus64 | HandyGandy: Right click > Desktop Activity Settings? |
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| 01:50.08 | Hydroxide | hi. are there any known issues about OpenGL KDE compositing on intel chipsets? With OpenGL + Texture From Pixmap I have bizarre screen artifacts such as black rectangles around windows and (depending on effects enabled) washed out colors, slow reactions, etc |
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| 02:02.02 | BeholdMyGlory | Hi. I just installed KDE on my Arch Linux system, and am currently trying to login using KDM. But when I enter my username and password, as soon as I press enter I get this dialog: "We are sorry, closed unexpectedly [...] Details: Executable: kdm_greet PID: 3525 Signal: 11 (Segmentation fault)" |
| 02:04.22 | sreich | what was the backtrace? |
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| 02:05.45 | BeholdMyGlory | Hm... It couldn't generate one |
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| 02:05.51 | BeholdMyGlory | Seems I forgot to install gdb |
| 02:06.01 | BeholdMyGlory | Wait a minute |
| 02:08.18 | BeholdMyGlory | Hm... I installed gdb, but I still get "The crash information could not be generated." Is there anything else I need to install? |
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| 02:21.29 | HandyGandy | BeholdMyGlory: Did you look for a core dump? |
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| 02:26.44 | BeholdMyGlory | HandyGandy: I'm not sure where I would look; any suggestions? |
| 02:28.55 | HandyGandy | Sure. Restart Linux in console mode. Then start x-windows with xinit. |
| 02:29.05 | HandyGandy | Maybe startkde works better. |
| 02:29.16 | BeholdMyGlory | Oh, well, it only crashes when I login through KDM |
| 02:29.19 | HandyGandy | You have to experiment, it's been a while for me. |
| 02:29.23 | BeholdMyGlory | startx works perfectly |
| 02:30.08 | blueyed | BeholdMyGlory: maybe Arch has the same kernel protection like Ubuntu, where a normal user cannot attach gdb to a running process anymore. |
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| 02:31.11 | BeholdMyGlory | Hm, checking /var/log/errors.log it says: Data directory "/var/lib/kdm" not accessible: No such file or directory |
| 02:32.33 | BeholdMyGlory | But doesn't seem to be any package in the Arch Linux repository that provides that directory... |
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| 02:34.34 | HandyGandy | Dpes /var/lib/kdm exist? |
| 02:34.41 | BeholdMyGlory | Nope |
| 02:35.00 | HandyGandy | Try creating it. |
| 02:35.09 | HandyGandy | BTW how did you install KDE? |
| 02:35.10 | BeholdMyGlory | I don't know if it's supposed to be provided by a package or if KDM is supposed to create it itself |
| 02:35.20 | BeholdMyGlory | Just a pacman -S kde, the standard Arch way |
| 02:35.34 | HandyGandy | Are you running kde? |
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| 02:35.40 | HandyGandy | Sorry kdm. |
| 02:35.58 | BeholdMyGlory | Yup, I configured /etc/inittab to start KDM at boot |
| 02:36.50 | sreich | BeholdMyGlory: well, /var/lib/kdm contains "kdmsts" file |
| 02:37.13 | sreich | which is just a kconfig which contains the previous user |
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| 02:37.48 | BeholdMyGlory | Hm, well, creating it didn't work |
| 02:37.55 | BeholdMyGlory | The directory that is |
| 02:38.53 | HandyGandy | Have you given it the correct permissions? |
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| 02:40.06 | HandyGandy | Also what do your logs say now? |
| 02:40.47 | BeholdMyGlory | Well, the cannot open /var/lib/kdm is gone now |
| 02:41.03 | BeholdMyGlory | There where some other error messages that I missed though: |
| 02:41.48 | BeholdMyGlory | "Cannot read from greeter for display :0" and "Abnormal termination of greeter for display :0, code 125, signal 0" |
| 02:42.42 | BeholdMyGlory | I'll try changing the way KDM starts; instead of editing /etc/inittab I'll start it as a daemon |
| 02:45.59 | BeholdMyGlory | Oh, that seems to work |
| 02:46.01 | BeholdMyGlory | How strange |
| 02:46.22 | BeholdMyGlory | Well, seems the problem is fixed. Or, well, worked around |
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| 07:51.14 | chomwitt | in squeeze in kde 4.4.4 i cant configure kdm from system-settings dialogs! all option are grey! |
| 07:52.31 | pinotree | alt+f2, "kdesu systemsettings" |
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| 07:54.51 | chomwitt | pinotree: thanks. although i was asked root password even when i opened setting from the kicker menu. |
| 07:55.12 | chomwitt | pinotree: should i report that as a bug? |
| 07:55.16 | pinotree | no |
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| 07:56.27 | pinotree | this is because the kdm configuration can be done only by root with kde < 4.5, and kde 4.5 will allow normal users to (using policykit) |
| 08:00.18 | maazu | bye all |
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| 08:09.25 | chomwitt | pinotree: ok . thanks |
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| 08:50.54 | new | hi |
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| 08:51.21 | new | I am cofusing in how to test a patch |
| 08:51.31 | new | I have .diff file and source |
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| 08:52.37 | new | please answer |
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| 08:53.19 | new | I have kdebase folder in my home folder and scr of konsole in it |
| 08:53.30 | new | then I modified the source |
| 08:53.47 | new | but how to check that it fixes a bug or not |
| 08:55.26 | szal | build and see? |
| 08:55.35 | new | how ? |
| 08:55.38 | szal | apart from such question belonging in #kde-devel ;) |
| 08:55.49 | new | ok |
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| 09:20.57 | *** topic/#kde is KDE SC 4.4.4 is out! See www.kde.org | http://userbase.kde.org | http://forum.kde.org | Don't flood the channel, use http://pastebin.ca | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4 |
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| 09:46.53 | chomwitt | in squeeze , when another user logins with kdm and try to switch to my session (ctrl+alt+Fx) i cant unlock screen.i try the same password i try when i login. |
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| 10:29.57 | MrDarkUser | Kame2 Well, kdebase is now compiling and qtcreator is being built, I tweaked http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdebase so it is less confusing |
| 10:30.45 | MrDarkUser | Kame2, switched to kde-srcbuild because of compilation errors, and am stuck again |
| 10:31.07 | Kame2 | MrDarkUser: i don't have time now, sorry |
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| 10:31.48 | MrDarkUser | kame2, any idea of anybody else to bug;) |
| 10:32.26 | Kame2 | no |
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| 10:41.22 | Torch | MrDarkUser: no one will be able to help you if you don't specify what the problem is though ;-) |
| 10:42.06 | Sho_ | Torch: but that takes all the fun out of guessing! |
| 10:42.23 | TripleRhu | lol |
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| 10:44.01 | MrDarkUser | my kdelibs wont compile for something about libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7: undefined reference to `strigi::FileInputStream... |
| 10:44.32 | Torch | MrDarkUser: pastebin the whole compile output |
| 10:44.35 | Torch | Sho_: hehe |
| 10:45.26 | MrDarkUser | Torch, working on doing that |
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| 10:49.57 | MrDarkUser | Torch pastebin.com/N7bE3Fkp |
| 10:50.19 | Torch | MrDarkUser: and the protocol is... gopher? |
| 10:51.40 | MrDarkUser | lol... http://pastebin.com/N7bE3Fkp |
| 10:52.39 | MrDarkUser | This is the error log from kde-buildsrc script |
| 10:53.54 | Sho_ | Torch: you're kidding, but pinotree actually still has stuff on gopher |
| 10:53.58 | MrDarkUser | phonon and kdesupport compiled... I am running kubuntu 10.04 as the base, I am using qt in /usr |
| 10:54.07 | pinotree | ¿ |
| 10:54.26 | Sho_ | pinotree: you gave me a gopher address of an okular screenshot once :) |
| 10:54.48 | MrDarkUser | doesnt help that firefox is loosing support for it... |
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| 10:56.02 | Torch | MrDarkUser: doesn't ring a bell for me. anyone else? |
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| 10:58.38 | MrDarkUser | anybody use project neon? |
| 10:59.18 | MrDarkUser | Torch thx for looking |
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| 11:58.25 | winli | when i log into edubuntu selecting kde desktop i got black screen |
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| 11:59.06 | winli | any edubuntu folks here? |
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| 12:13.52 | cb400f | how black? does alt+f2 work? |
| 12:14.25 | pinotree | cb400f: he's gone |
| 12:15.07 | d3x | it happens for me from time to time... kwin --replace helps then |
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| 12:15.27 | d3x | (or ctrl+shift+f12, but then i lose my panel etc.) |
| 12:15.50 | TomJ | I seem to have just turned on some kind of spell checker in Konversation - it's underlining misspelled words in red on the input box. Can't find it in the Options menu, how do I turn it off? |
| 12:16.14 | Sho_ | TomJ: It's in the context menu of the input line (same for mostly all KDE input fields) |
| 12:16.31 | TomJ | hehe, thanks, didnt think to look there |
| 12:16.38 | Sho_ | np :) |
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| 12:55.07 | ypnos | I upgraded a system with kde4 stuff |
| 12:55.17 | ypnos | since then, when the user logins, openoffice is started |
| 12:55.23 | ypnos | and complains that it cannot load a bullshit file |
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| 12:55.36 | ypnos | if I close openoffice, I see only black |
| 12:55.41 | ypnos | funny thing is |
| 12:55.46 | ypnos | the home of the user is on NFS |
| 12:55.52 | ypnos | on another system where I did the same upgrade |
| 12:55.57 | ypnos | the login and everything works just fine |
| 12:56.08 | ypnos | are there any KDE files _not_ in the home that can affect the login in such a way? |
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| 13:34.14 | trupheenix | my sound is not working suddenly on kDE |
| 13:34.15 | trupheenix | why? |
| 13:34.45 | cb400f | how are we supposed to know? |
| 13:35.04 | cb400f | .. these days 75% of sound issues are caused by pulseaudio |
| 13:35.14 | cb400f | it's also possible that you broke phonon |
| 13:36.00 | cb400f | are the speakers turned on and up? .. is stuff turned down in kmix? |
| 13:36.15 | cb400f | .. could be about 1 gazillion reasons when you give absolutely no info |
| 13:36.33 | d3x | did you connect your speakers to computer? |
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| 13:39.10 | spidermario | trupheenix: it sometimes happens to me when Phonon tries to play a sound while an application is directly writing to /dev/dsp |
| 13:39.49 | trupheenix | spidermario: ok actually sound is working on GNOME. but not on KDE. |
| 13:39.50 | d3x | that application being for example skype |
| 13:40.11 | spidermario | you can wrap such applications with aoss |
| 13:40.27 | d3x | spidermario, try it with skype :) have fun |
| 13:40.45 | d3x | (on 64bit system) |
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| 14:02.18 | trupheenix | spidermario: fix? suggestion? |
| 14:03.32 | spidermario | it fixes the problem on my computer, even though I have to do this for all problematic applications |
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| 14:04.27 | joeytwiddle | you can track down which processes are stealing the audio devices with: fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/*snd*/* |
| 14:04.45 | joeytwiddle | although with aoss i guess they will share nicely |
| 14:07.22 | trupheenix | spidermario: i didn't get u |
| 14:07.33 | trupheenix | spidermario: i added myself to the audio group |
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| 14:08.45 | spidermario | well, gbsplay, for example, prevents Phonon from playing sound, unless I run it with âaoss gbsplayâ |
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| 14:10.03 | trupheenix | spidermario: i can't seem to figure out the problem :( |
| 14:10.38 | trupheenix | spidermario: i used to get some warning earlier about an analog device not functioning but now i don't get that even. |
| 14:10.48 | spidermario | oh. |
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| 14:31.05 | bluesceada | wah crazines |
| 14:31.21 | bluesceada | i have two software-wise nearly identical boxes |
| 14:31.37 | bluesceada | debian squeeze kde4 on both of them, recent version |
| 14:32.01 | bluesceada | on one i can choose only 4 weather services, of which only one can find my city and otherwise doesnt provide so nice information, (and it's down currently it seems) |
| 14:32.10 | bluesceada | on the other I can choose like 7 different weather services |
| 14:32.21 | bluesceada | for the standard plasma weather app .... |
| 14:32.29 | bluesceada | anyone can give me a hint what makes the difference? |
| 14:32.56 | pinotree | some alternative plasma weather applet like yawp or cwp? |
| 14:33.23 | bluesceada | no two times the exact same applet |
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| 14:33.36 | bluesceada | i dont know of any possible software differences that could influence that |
| 14:33.59 | bluesceada | :( |
| 14:34.03 | bluesceada | this is really crazy |
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| 14:34.22 | bluesceada | no sorry |
| 14:34.29 | bluesceada | yawp is installed on one (but not used) |
| 14:34.40 | bluesceada | does that "pull-in" services for the other weather applets to use?! |
| 14:34.59 | pinotree | could be |
| 14:35.18 | bluesceada | now i have to find it online because it seems not available anymore over the install service at "add new widgets" |
| 14:35.31 | bluesceada | (even if i search for it ) |
| 14:36.56 | bluesceada | uh strange things strange things |
| 14:37.19 | bluesceada | pinotree: seemed to have been debian related, on one is yawp installed as a real package, on the other not |
| 14:37.33 | bluesceada | or maybe layer 8, sorry :S |
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| 14:38.25 | bluesceada | no, debian, it's marked automatically installed |
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| 14:38.33 | bluesceada | strange that only one of the systems did do that |
| 14:38.43 | bluesceada | thanks for the help, away again |
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| 14:53.12 | kriko | why konsole is ignoring fonts inside ~/.fonts? |
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| 14:55.55 | kriko | Upon startup if Konsole can not find the Bitmap fonts, an 'Install Bitmap...' item will appear in the Settings->Font menu. |
| 14:56.00 | kriko | there is no such thing |
| 14:56.05 | kriko | from http://konsole.kde.org/ |
| 14:56.25 | khindenburg_ | kriko: that 'install' was for kde 3 |
| 14:57.03 | kriko | is it possible to use that font in konsole for kde4? |
| 14:57.12 | kriko | I do have it in ~/.fonts |
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| 14:57.29 | khindenburg_ | konsole uses fixed fonts that kde/qt tell it is installed |
| 14:58.13 | bluesceada | kriko: maybe your distri does not include ~/.fonts |
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| 14:58.20 | bluesceada | fontconfig must allow that afaik |
| 14:58.28 | kriko | bluesceada: it is shown in other apps |
| 14:58.32 | kriko | not in konsole |
| 14:58.35 | bluesceada | kde apps? |
| 14:58.41 | kriko | yes |
| 14:58.45 | kriko | like konversation |
| 14:59.05 | kriko | copying to .kde4/share/apps/konsole/fonts/ fixed the problem |
| 14:59.11 | bluesceada | kriko: ah konsole does not allow much fonts |
| 14:59.18 | bluesceada | my konsole does show also just around 10 fonts |
| 14:59.32 | bluesceada | kriko: konsole shows only like 10 fonts for me |
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| 14:59.37 | kriko | yes, but Console is such a nice font |
| 14:59.38 | bluesceada | while i have like 100 |
| 14:59.49 | kriko | anyway fixed ^^ |
| 14:59.49 | bluesceada | for you too? |
| 15:00.02 | bluesceada | or does your konsole just show not the fonts in ~/.fonts ? |
| 15:00.28 | trupheenix | spidermario: damn! can't figure this out. GNOME everything work :( |
| 15:00.37 | kriko | not all of them it seems, copying to that folder fixed the problem |
| 15:00.42 | kriko | it behaves strangely |
| 15:00.48 | bluesceada | then it must be a bug i guess? |
| 15:01.05 | mika__ | hi, is there a way to set shortcuts for rsi break? in order to start/suspend/stop using keys and not going in the trayicon everytime? and is it possible to having that when the "job time" finish and the break starts, the next job time must be started manually? |
| 15:01.13 | bluesceada | in filtering the fonts (only monospace) it does something else wrong maybe? |
| 15:01.31 | bluesceada | mika__: what is rsi break? |
| 15:01.46 | mika__ | bluesceada: a kde app :) |
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| 15:02.30 | bluesceada | ah? never heard of it, it its not standard included you might check if they have their own irc channel, maybe they can help better |
| 15:02.42 | bluesceada | "if it is not" i wanted to write |
| 15:03.15 | mika__ | there isn't :( time ago i found the app dev here in this channel.. ;) |
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| 15:07.35 | aar | Hi, I'm editing a superkarama theme and I would like to incorporate the output of some processes that require super user privileges (e.g. iftop and tail syslog). Is this possible at all? (kde4.4.2) |
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| 16:00.22 | Gentoochild | hey guys. Can you tell me where I can disable the "feature" that KDEâs clipboard forgets its content if I close the window where I copied it from? |
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| 16:01.47 | pinotree | Gentoochild: use klipper to have an history of the clipboard |
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| 16:01.53 | Gentoochild | I do have it |
| 16:01.57 | bluesceada | Gentoochild: kde3 ? maybe you should have "klipper" running |
| 16:01.58 | bluesceada | hmm |
| 16:02.04 | Gentoochild | but itâs annoying that I have to re-select the stuff |
| 16:02.06 | Gentoochild | nope, kde4 |
| 16:02.09 | bluesceada | i also had it in kde3 hmh |
| 16:02.25 | pinotree | that's the behaviour of the X clipboard |
| 16:03.20 | Gentoochild | pinotree: so I'll have to turn a switch somewhere else, on a level beneath kde |
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| 16:03.34 | bluesceada | no X doesnt support it |
| 16:03.38 | pinotree | i'm not aware of such switches |
| 16:03.39 | bluesceada | afaik |
| 16:03.47 | bluesceada | klipper should be able to handle it |
| 16:04.05 | bluesceada | maybe not copy by "select" and insert by middle click, but rather with strg+c strg+v or other usual shortcuts |
| 16:04.10 | Gentoochild | well, I have looked for an option, but to no avail |
| 16:04.34 | Gentoochild | I don't have copying by selection enabled, afaik |
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| 16:04.43 | bluesceada | uh? |
| 16:04.49 | bluesceada | that is default |
| 16:04.50 | Gentoochild | I always copy via Ctrl+C/context menu |
| 16:04.55 | bluesceada | ok |
| 16:04.57 | cadthecoder | How can i create a revision tree for the whole project? |
| 16:05.00 | bluesceada | then klipper should handle it hm |
| 16:05.04 | cadthecoder | i use svn |
| 16:05.30 | bluesceada | cadthecoder: read the svn manual?! |
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| 16:06.41 | cadthecoder | bluesceada: nope i need a tool for that its not implemented in svn. I use kdesvn as a svn client but it creates revision trees for only one object at a time. |
| 16:06.42 | Gentoochild | well, I have enabled Klipperâs "avoid empty clipboard" option, but it actually gets empty upon closing the source window |
| 16:07.14 | bluesceada | cadthecoder: use git, svn is conceptually ugly :P |
| 16:07.31 | cadthecoder | bluesceada: agreed, but this is not an option for now. |
| 16:07.52 | bluesceada | if svn doesnt support what you want to do, how could kdesvn do it? |
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| 16:08.24 | bluesceada | revision tree does mean a new branch for you i guess? |
| 16:08.39 | cadthecoder | bluesceada: i guess it processes svn log outputs. |
| 16:09.38 | cadthecoder | bluesceada: nope a graphic of activities done to the repository. |
| 16:10.01 | bluesceada | ah I see, sorry |
| 16:10.48 | bluesceada | you want to know how you can *view* a revision tree for your whole project? |
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| 16:11.21 | bluesceada | try if #kdesvn or something like that exists |
| 16:12.27 | cadthecoder | it doesnt :( |
| 16:12.46 | cadthecoder | can anybody help who is experienced with kdesvn? |
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| 16:14.04 | HandyGandy | Is there a KDE4 disk cataloging application? |
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| 16:14.44 | pinotree | disk cataloging? |
| 16:15.48 | HandyGandy | CD/DVD |
| 16:15.56 | Gentoochild | ah ok, reading the tooltip, my problem is actually a bug in klipper. I'm gonna file it on bko |
| 16:16.00 | pinotree | tellico? |
| 16:16.33 | bluesceada | Gentoochild: oh ... and what tooltip? |
| 16:16.43 | Gentoochild | for "Avoid empty clipboard" |
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| 16:17.02 | bluesceada | ahh, so if you uncheck that, it works? |
| 16:17.07 | Gentoochild | the tooltip says "do not clear clipboard if program is exited" |
| 16:17.15 | Gentoochild | with tooltip I mean the What's this? |
| 16:17.21 | bluesceada | ah ok |
| 16:17.32 | Gentoochild | but no matter if it's enabled or disabled, the clipboard gets emptied |
| 16:17.48 | bluesceada | in kde4 the "what's this" does anyway not exist most of the time :/ |
| 16:17.57 | bluesceada | mmh ok |
| 16:18.38 | bluesceada | how much wakeups does klipper produce? |
| 16:19.02 | bluesceada | i remember it having it turned off in kde3 because it produce quite some wakeups (lessening notebook battery time) |
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| 16:21.55 | Gentoochild | I find klipper quite useful, especially in heise forum, where weblinks are wrapped around. Then I can quickly correct the link and then open it |
| 16:22.16 | Gentoochild | unfortunately, the "Edit content" was removed from the actions menu for KDE4 :( |
| 16:22.27 | bluesceada | yeh man, keep it simple ..... -.- |
| 16:22.51 | pinotree | sees it on kde 4.4 |
| 16:22.52 | bluesceada | i wonder when okulars pdf rendering will be fixed |
| 16:23.12 | pinotree | never, given that okular does not render pdf documents |
| 16:23.24 | bluesceada | somehow evince does it correct, both using poppler |
| 16:23.26 | Gentoochild | pinotree: it is there in klipper's context menu, but not in the automatically popping up menu if I copy a link |
| 16:23.50 | Gentoochild | but it was there in ye olde 3 |
| 16:24.07 | bluesceada | (try pdfs generated with pdflatex, the border gets cropped by okular) |
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| 16:24.57 | pinotree | bluesceada: are you sure you just don't have the "trim borders" option active? |
| 16:25.04 | bluesceada | O.o |
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| 16:25.55 | bluesceada | pinotree: cant find that option |
| 16:26.00 | pinotree | Edit menu |
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| 16:26.15 | pinotree | trim margins, that is |
| 16:26.16 | bluesceada | ? |
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| 16:26.28 | bluesceada | cant see it |
| 16:26.50 | pinotree | sigh, View menu |
| 16:27.02 | bluesceada | ahhh it's... yeh just found it... |
| 16:27.03 | bluesceada | nice |
| 16:27.09 | bluesceada | but why was this enabled by defaul? wtf...... |
| 16:27.16 | bluesceada | thanks |
| 16:27.20 | bluesceada | now the okular scrolling bug |
| 16:28.04 | pinotree | the trim option is not enabled by default in a vanilla okular |
| 16:28.32 | bluesceada | then debian -.- |
| 16:28.38 | pinotree | neither |
| 16:28.54 | bluesceada | it must be |
| 16:29.01 | pinotree | nope |
| 16:29.03 | bluesceada | i never did anything with okular before and it was from the beginning |
| 16:29.06 | bluesceada | on both of my boxes |
| 16:29.17 | bluesceada | or conversion from kde3 was bugged (but there was no okular in 3 ...) |
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| 16:29.35 | pinotree | there's no such option in kpdf, so nothing to convert from it |
| 16:29.43 | pinotree | did you carry on your .kde from eg an ubuntu installation? |
| 16:29.44 | bluesceada | yes, but i did not set it |
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| 16:29.55 | bluesceada | no |
| 16:30.07 | bluesceada | always ever had debian (ok gentoo, but that config was lost long before) |
| 16:30.18 | bluesceada | but did install since kde4 was only in experimental.... |
| 16:30.19 | CMI-DOS | how do i lock the screen in fluxbox |
| 16:30.35 | pinotree | CMI-DOS: this isn't a fluxbox user support channel |
| 16:30.37 | CMI-DOS | i want to use kdm as my screen locker |
| 16:30.41 | CMI-DOS | i know |
| 16:30.43 | bluesceada | kdm is no screen locker |
| 16:30.47 | bluesceada | kdm is a login manager |
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| 16:30.48 | CMI-DOS | but it's a kdm question |
| 16:30.51 | bluesceada | no |
| 16:30.57 | pinotree | kdm is a login manager, not a screen locker |
| 16:30.59 | bluesceada | but you could try klock (or something like that) |
| 16:31.06 | CMI-DOS | thanks |
| 16:31.13 | bluesceada | oh mh sorry, that doesn exist |
| 16:31.15 | CMI-DOS | that's what i was looking for |
| 16:31.16 | CMI-DOS | :) |
| 16:31.26 | CMI-DOS | oh |
| 16:31.36 | bluesceada | CMI-DOS: no, try rather xlock, xlockmore, or something like that |
| 16:31.42 | bluesceada | but yeh thats offtopic here |
| 16:31.54 | spidermario | Akregator seems to have a memory leak |
| 16:32.04 | CMI-DOS | i want to use kdm instead of xlokc |
| 16:32.08 | CMI-DOS | xlock |
| 16:32.26 | pinotree | forget kdm, it is NOT what you think it is (and we told you already) |
| 16:32.34 | CMI-DOS | but i don't know what command will lock the screen |
| 16:32.43 | CMI-DOS | oh |
| 16:33.01 | bluesceada | pinotree: to come back to okular, ..i am 100% sure that it was set as default at least in debian experimental or something like that .. it cant be that i misconfigured that option in 2 independent kde setups |
| 16:33.25 | pinotree | bluesceada: we never set it as default in either okular or debian |
| 16:33.30 | bluesceada | the scrolling bug seems now also gone somehow |
| 16:33.37 | bluesceada | hm |
| 16:33.48 | bluesceada | then there was some other problem, whatever |
| 16:34.28 | CMI-DOS | how come i've used kdm to lock the screen before |
| 16:34.36 | bluesceada | scrolling bug was: scroll back 1/2 a page when i use buttons or keys for prev/next page,... |
| 16:34.51 | bluesceada | CMI-DOS: you didnt, you have logged out maybe, but not locked the screen |
| 16:35.07 | CMI-DOS | no i locked the screen |
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| 16:35.25 | bluesceada | you could have started a new session which starts a new kdm and locks the old session with a kde internal mechanism |
| 16:35.40 | bluesceada | yeh but not with kdm |
| 16:36.12 | bluesceada | it's something "kde internal" (kwin internal?) |
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| 16:36.51 | CMI-DOS | http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre1/67776-1.png |
| 16:37.09 | CMI-DOS | that's what i want to do |
| 16:37.09 | bluesceada | kde internal function |
| 16:37.14 | bluesceada | use kde |
| 16:37.41 | CMI-DOS | is there a command what i can use in fluxbox |
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| 16:37.51 | bluesceada | xlock / xlockmore like i told before! |
| 16:37.54 | CMI-DOS | i have kde installed |
| 16:38.00 | bluesceada | and this is offtopic, try #fluxbox |
| 16:38.01 | CMI-DOS | oh |
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| 16:38.25 | CMI-DOS | but #fluxbox can't help me with kde commands |
| 16:38.30 | CMI-DOS | and i hate xlock |
| 16:38.53 | bluesceada | or try xscreensaver-command -lock |
| 16:39.50 | bluesceada | CMI-DOS: yes but it's a kde function for what you have to use kde |
| 16:40.06 | bluesceada | this is really getting annoying |
| 16:40.14 | CMI-DOS | oh k |
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| 16:41.03 | bluesceada | i can only tell you alternatives, but kde functions require kde if they are not a separate program, and screen locking is a quite essentially built-in function |
| 16:41.41 | CMI-DOS | alternatives |
| 16:42.11 | bluesceada | i did tell them already!! and this is offtopic here |
| 16:42.26 | bluesceada | xlock, xlockmore, xscreensaver-command -lock, i dont know anymore |
| 16:42.35 | CMI-DOS | k |
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| 16:43.24 | bluesceada | CMI-DOS: if you would run kde, and use fluxbox as the window manager for kde, it would probably do |
| 16:43.40 | CMI-DOS | k |
| 16:44.14 | CMI-DOS | would kde have to start first though |
| 16:44.50 | bluesceada | hm fluxbox is not supported as a windowmanager in kde it seems, you should google what works and what not, maybe blackbox or openbox do |
| 16:45.29 | pinotree | you can use any WM in kde, see http://developer.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
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| 17:05.07 | spidermario | what is the current version of Kompare and when was it released, please? |
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| 17:14.59 | pinotree | spidermario: kompare is releases in the kdesdk module of kde sc |
| 17:15.34 | pinotree | *released |
| 17:16.03 | bluesceada | hmm which program would I use for kde for a hybrid usb adapter? (digital dvb / analog satellite) |
| 17:16.23 | pinotree | dvb-t, there's kaffine |
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| 17:16.55 | bluesceada | and analog "video capture" ? |
| 17:17.28 | pinotree | kmplayer, vlc, etc |
| 17:17.45 | bluesceada | ok thanks |
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| 17:49.46 | h4xordood | James147: heya :) if you here |
| 17:49.52 | James147 | h4xordood: hey |
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| 17:50.59 | h4xordood | got youe message i have almost packaged your app just in review process :) |
| 17:51.12 | James147 | h4xordood: :) |
| 17:51.45 | h4xordood | i have to put some license thing over there which i wanted to talk with you as well as at fedora |
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| 17:52.19 | h4xordood | packaging stuff and when ever you will update ill do that again :) |
| 17:52.48 | James147 | h4xordood: sure :) |
| 17:53.53 | clarkda | 0 |
| 17:54.10 | clarkda | errant post, multiple windows |
| 17:54.25 | h4xordood | james147: which licence you using is it GPL v2 or something like that ? let me know :) |
| 17:55.26 | h4xordood | and this is the package file that i am doing http://siddharths.fedorapeople.org/SPECS/kpassgen.spec |
| 17:55.47 | James147 | h4xordood: its GPL v2 or 3 I think |
| 17:55.54 | h4xordood | in case you want to have a look :) |
| 17:56.08 | h4xordood | ok got it v2 |
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| 19:17.44 | nihar | in some source files, I see that there are names of two people like " Nihar CopyRight@2008" and then " Bat CopyRight@2010" , so when can you add your name to a source file ? |
| 19:18.39 | nihar | Is there any specification for KDE specific development ? |
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| 19:19.38 | Shaan7 | nihar: when you think you've written a good amount of code and you want to prevent its relicensing without your consent |
| 19:20.31 | nihar | Shaan7: even if the previence license for the code is of 2010 |
| 19:20.33 | nihar | ? |
| 19:21.54 | Shaan7 | nihar: yes, if you've contributed significantly, you can add your name too |
| 19:22.37 | nihar | Shaan7: ok. thanks :) |
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| 20:22.57 | annew | my keyboard layout is changed, which I can only put down to the big upgrade I did on my netbook before leaving home |
| 20:23.10 | annew | I can't see any way in systemsettings to correct it |
| 20:23.33 | annew | can someone suggest the config file that may b=need editing? |
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| 20:50.50 | Shirakawasuna | Is there any way to change the startup application order? I want knetworkmanager to start first. I'd have it try connecting at boot, but there's this bug... https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204340 |
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| 20:59.55 | Sho_ | Shirakawasuna: http://l10n.kde.org/docs/admin/autostart-and-runonce.html |
| 21:00.03 | Sho_ | see the documentation of X-KDE-autostart-phase |
| 21:00.21 | Sho_ | as well as X-KDE-autostart-after |
| 21:00.53 | Sho_ | also see http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdelibs/kinit/README.autostart?revision=409203&view=markup |
| 21:01.00 | Shirakawasuna | ah, cool |
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| 21:01.30 | Shirakawasuna | it'd be nice if those were configurable through system settings :) Thanks Sho_! |
| 21:01.38 | Sho_ | np |
| 21:02.59 | Sho_ | could be that people were hesitant to expose it in System Settings since the System Settings frontend afaik modifies the fd.o autostart folder and these are KDE-specific, so it wouldn't work for people who switch between desktops (it wouldn't be harmful, but the order settings wouldn't work in Gnome) |
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| 21:05.45 | Shirakawasuna | true... though eliminating important functionality seems like a bad compromise :) |
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| 22:35.43 | H2OyJaBoN | hi! |
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| 22:41.18 | Antigen | Hello |
| 22:41.35 | Antigen | I am using gdm and gnome and am looking for a reason to switch back to KDE |
| 22:41.54 | Tomasu | KDE is slick :D |
| 22:41.57 | Antigen | First of all it looks like I can't theme gdm, also kdm and kde have that awesome login-scan-fusion theme |
| 22:42.00 | Tomasu | reason enough for me ;D |
| 22:42.19 | Antigen | Tomasu, you know any other cool ways to pimp out my linux desktop? |
| 22:42.38 | mikeplus64 | Antigen: You might like Bespin ( a Qt style with _heaps_ of options ) |
| 22:42.39 | Antigen | Something like qtcurvers, theres something to give you a pretty amazing proram bar |
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| 22:42.48 | Tomasu | um, not really. theres things like LXDE and whatnot, but I find KDE the prettiest and most functional (most of the time) |
| 22:42.55 | pinotree | Antigen: if you are lookg for reasons to use kde, then just play with kde and see whether you like it |
| 22:43.04 | pinotree | *looking |
| 22:43.05 | Tomasu | cant hurt to try it out |
| 22:43.21 | Antigen | I have gdesklets |
| 22:43.28 | pinotree | Antigen: nobody else than you can say whether there are reasons for you to use kde |
| 22:43.55 | Tomasu | indeed. it seems to be a really strong personal preference |
| 22:43.59 | Antigen | I like that OSX like bar |
| 22:44.03 | Tomasu | some people really hate what KDE has done, but I /love/ it. |
| 22:44.12 | Antigen | I loved dropline |
| 22:44.14 | Tomasu | kde was awesome before, now its like GOD :o |
| 22:44.29 | Tomasu | finds the OSX bar highly annoying |
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| 22:46.43 | Antigen | Fedora is pretty awesome |
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| 22:47.36 | Antigen | How do I enable control-alt-bksp again |
| 22:47.48 | thiago_akademy | that's an X configuration |
| 22:47.50 | Tomasu | add a line to xorg.conf |
| 22:47.54 | thiago_akademy | see man xorg.conf |
| 22:47.58 | Tomasu | I can't recall the specific option |
| 22:48.19 | thiago_akademy | Dontzap |
| 22:48.36 | Antigen | yeah |
| 22:48.40 | Antigen | thiago_akademy, |
| 22:48.55 | Antigen | I moved my old xorg.conf so icould make a new one |
| 22:49.01 | Antigen | It hasn't regenerated |
| 22:49.05 | Antigen | Best way to do that? |
| 22:49.12 | thiago_akademy | not a KDE question |
| 22:49.32 | Antigen | Please don't be like that |
| 22:49.39 | thiago_akademy | I just can't help you |
| 22:49.40 | Antigen | Are you on the dark side |
| 22:49.49 | Antigen | What is the matter with people today |
| 22:49.51 | thiago_akademy | my xorg.conf files have always been there for me in the past 7 years |
| 22:49.54 | Antigen | I vow never to give people the run round |
| 22:50.03 | Antigen | When I master linux |
| 22:50.04 | thiago_akademy | I've never erased it, so I don't know how to regenerate it |
| 22:50.16 | thiago_akademy | now, your question is off-topic to #kde, since it's not a KDE question |
| 22:50.18 | Tomasu | most times you don't need to regenerate it |
| 22:50.24 | thiago_akademy | please ask in your distribution's channel |
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