| 00:00.09 | cleary | CVirus: sharing a printer is a different matter |
| 00:00.28 | cleary | CVirus: there is one directive in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf |
| 00:00.36 | CVirus | i need to connect to a shared printer |
| 00:00.45 | CVirus | it was easy to be done using kprinter |
| 00:00.49 | cleary | CVirus: how is it shared? |
| 00:00.55 | cleary | via another cups server? |
| 00:01.02 | cleary | or via windows/samba |
| 00:01.03 | CVirus | i don't know .. I just selected "share" in ubuntu |
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| 00:07.58 | tsb | Not possible to get window-desorations using "hot new stuff (!)" ? |
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| 00:13.45 | duryodhan | Hi , is there a simple way to add ical calendars to the KDE desktop so that I can see my upcoming appointments ? Kubuntu 9.04 KDE 4.3.2 |
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| 00:25.54 | Ejdesgaard | http://dpaste.com/118489/ |
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| 00:27.31 | Ejdesgaard | i got a problem with knetworkmanger... USE="wicd" emerge =kde-misc/knetworkmanager-9999 -av results in http://dpaste.com/118489/ |
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| 00:36.38 | Sirgado | hi, I'm trying to create a Service Menu for right-click Konqueror menu (or dolphin) |
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| 00:37.27 | Sirgado | I've created a desktop file under ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus, but my services menu does not appear in the right-click menu |
| 00:37.59 | Sirgado | i've checked desktop file syntax.... I've to update something for Konqueror/Dolphin to get aware of service menus changes? |
| 00:38.41 | sreich | Sirgado: enable it in settings |
| 00:40.21 | Sirgado | interesting.... but my service menu is not in that list (Services tabs in conf) |
| 00:40.52 | sreich | damnit, I was hoping that would work :) |
| 00:40.59 | sreich | oh. |
| 00:41.09 | sreich | I wonder if kbuildsycoca is required.. |
| 00:42.03 | Sirgado | I don't now, but I'm executing kbuildsyscoca every time I change the service menu |
| 00:42.43 | sreich | Sirgado: quit ruining my ideas! :p |
| 00:43.12 | Sirgado | :D :D I'm sorry, I'll be happy if you hit the problem hehehe |
| 00:45.01 | sreich | Sirgado: what tut are you going by? |
| 00:45.22 | Sirgado | tut? |
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| 00:45.49 | sreich | tutorial |
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| 00:46.27 | Sirgado | ah.... this http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
| 00:46.28 | rektide | i'm using ccmake to try and build projectm; it complains it cant find pulse audio libraries 0.9.8 or greater, even though this debian install has libpulse-dev 0.9.19-2 |
| 00:46.40 | Sirgado | is the Service Menu tutorial more or less ported to KDE 4 |
| 00:46.46 | rektide | how in the hell do i begin to debug this, i'm sorry, insane and not at all transparent build system |
| 00:47.29 | sreich | better than autoshit |
| 00:48.03 | sreich | Sirgado: no, it needs to be.. |
| 00:48.03 | Sirgado | in fact I think there's something wierd with my systems,... whiel KDE 3 times I could create services menu, but since KDE 4 come I can't :( |
| 00:48.03 | sreich | Sirgado: i.e. DCOP is dead, long live D-BUS |
| 00:48.38 | junkDawgie | Sirgado: seems i recall that making old kde3 servicemenus work in kde4 that there was a script on kde-apps that did some sed commands... not sure if it's pertinent... kde4-servicemenu.sh |
| 00:48.55 | Sirgado | I'll check |
| 00:49.45 | Sirgado | thanks for your comments guys |
| 00:50.08 | Sirgado | I'll try ti figure out what's going on, and why I can't create new services menus |
| 00:51.38 | rektide | i dont see ccmake looking for any pulse includes at all |
| 00:52.42 | pinotree | what are you trying to compile? |
| 00:53.05 | rektide | projectm, a music visualzation library |
| 00:53.56 | pinotree | is it a kde application/library? |
| 00:53.57 | rektide | it has a |
| 00:53.59 | rektide | pkg_search_module(LIBPULSE REQUIRED libpulse>=0.9.8) |
| 00:54.17 | rektide | even freaking stracing this bastard ccmake, i cant see it looking for a libpulse anywhere at all |
| 00:55.13 | sreich | why nto cmake-gui? |
| 00:55.21 | pinotree | instead of shooting random insults, please reply to my question: is it a kde library or not? |
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| 00:55.35 | rektide | some of its subprojects are kde |
| 00:55.56 | pinotree | we don't develop any part of it |
| 00:56.30 | orzel | hello. One of my konsole crashed (probably because of a ooo-kill) and..... all my konsole actually dissapeared. I wondered why, and restarted several konsoles. If i do 'ps aux | grep konsole', i can only see one. Could it be that all konsole share the same process ? |
| 00:56.32 | pinotree | so we have no idea about projectm's build system, thus you should ask any question about it to the projectm developers. |
| 00:56.38 | orzel | and hence are all killed when one has a problem... |
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| 00:56.53 | rektide | projectm is usung your insane untraceable build system |
| 00:56.55 | rektide | and your build system |
| 00:56.58 | rektide | is processing |
| 00:56.59 | rektide | pkg_search_module(LIBPULSE REQUIRED libpulse>=0.9.8) |
| 00:57.06 | rektide | and not finding shit directly in front of its face |
| 00:57.34 | pinotree | we are NOT responsible for cmake build systems of non-kde applications |
| 00:57.37 | rektide | i can however go bug #cmake, which i'll do |
| 00:57.49 | pinotree | possibly without insults :) |
| 00:57.49 | orzel | seems a better place, yes |
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| 00:58.07 | pinotree | yay, one idiot less |
| 00:58.19 | sreich | +1 |
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| 01:00.07 | kolla | if I try to "grab" a widget in a panel using middle mouse button, when I release the mousebutton I get a yellow "note" icon with a "T" in - what's that? |
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| 01:00.32 | sreich | kolla: in linux, the middle mouse button is a Paste function |
| 01:00.39 | sreich | pasting what text was last selected |
| 01:00.59 | sreich | basically..don't use the middle mouse buttton..or disable the pasting functionality for the MMB |
| 01:01.16 | sreich | I'm actually not sure if you even can drag a widget w/ the MMB..can you? |
| 01:01.40 | kolla | no, but it's wired in my spine |
| 01:02.00 | kolla | I find it hard to let go of, and it leaves stupid "notes" in my panel |
| 01:03.10 | kolla | be aware that I'm linux user since before kernel 1.0 and know perfectly well that mmb-click is paste in terminals |
| 01:04.21 | sreich | then you would know that you shouldn't use MMB for else |
| 01:04.26 | sreich | :D |
| 01:05.03 | orzel | looking at konsole code : gee!!!! it's indeed actually using only one process and it's done ...on purpose ???? We are back to pre-unix world before process protection .. |
| 01:05.09 | kolla | it would perhaps be usefull if it created a note with the conent of my pastebuffer, but it doesnt even do that, it just creates a "note" icon and nothing else |
| 01:05.30 | kolla | sreich: well, that went out the window once ctrl-c became "copy" |
| 01:05.36 | sreich | kolla: are you sure it doesn't use the text? |
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| 01:05.45 | sreich | kolla: hehe, yeah |
| 01:05.49 | kolla | be cause the "note" is empty |
| 01:05.58 | sreich | did you click it, since it's on the panel? |
| 01:06.09 | kolla | sure, and it gives me formatting options |
| 01:07.02 | kolla | oh wait.. it is there, it's just that I dont use insanely huge panels, so it doesnt show |
| 01:08.27 | kolla | ok, so how do I turn this off? |
| 01:08.41 | sreich | yeah. |
| 01:09.11 | sreich | kolla: I'm not sure...maybe you can go to desktop settings, and look for something in mouse actions? |
| 01:09.25 | sreich | dunno if that does anything useful |
| 01:10.03 | kolla | also I still cannot drag anything from k-menu to autohide panels |
| 01:10.18 | kolla | it didnt work with 4.3.2 and it still doesnt work with 4.3.3 |
| 01:10.51 | kolla | once I move the mouse to the screenedge so that the panel shows up, the icon I'm dragging just vanishes |
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| 01:12.38 | kolla | what does it mean when there's a clock next to a widget in the "add widget" list? |
| 01:12.49 | PhrkOnLsh | what is the proper name for the "cashew" |
| 01:12.54 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: you've used it in the past |
| 01:12.55 | kolla | or a heart, or a minus, or a plus |
| 01:13.10 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: toolbox |
| 01:13.15 | PhrkOnLsh | sreich: danke |
| 01:13.18 | PhrkOnLsh | is userbase hacking |
| 01:13.25 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: no, toolbox. |
| 01:13.34 | kolla | PhrkOnLsh: ok, and a clock symbolizes that how? |
| 01:13.37 | PhrkOnLsh | sreich: uhh, danke == tahnks :) |
| 01:13.45 | PhrkOnLsh | thanks, even, blagh |
| 01:13.45 | sreich | kolla: it's an hour glass |
| 01:13.57 | sreich | kolla: it's a common metaphor |
| 01:14.24 | kolla | I see a clock, not and hourglass, and I dont see how an hourglass or a clock symbolizes "used before" |
| 01:14.31 | kolla | s/and/an |
| 01:14.41 | kolla | does "heart" mean that I love it? |
| 01:15.11 | sreich | wtf? |
| 01:15.12 | sreich | a heart? |
| 01:15.16 | sreich | where the hell is that? |
| 01:15.23 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: pics or it didn't happen :) |
| 01:15.30 | kolla | pic of what? |
| 01:15.36 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: can you dump a screenshot somewhere for reference? |
| 01:16.00 | kolla | sure |
| 01:17.11 | sreich | sounds like a distro's Lets Patch The Shit Out of It |
| 01:17.48 | kolla | http://kolla.no/kde4-widgets.png |
| 01:17.50 | PhrkOnLsh | "and not push it upstream :D" |
| 01:18.08 | PhrkOnLsh | the heck? |
| 01:18.11 | PhrkOnLsh | This is gentoo? |
| 01:18.22 | PhrkOnLsh | it just crashed my konqi i think :D |
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| 01:18.44 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: that. and we don't want any patches that are crappy :) |
| 01:19.01 | kolla | and then the note, with formatting options.. nicely integrating with the rest of the crap... |
| 01:19.02 | kolla | http://kolla.no/kde4-noteformat.png |
| 01:19.14 | PhrkOnLsh | I think in this case heart == favorite star |
| 01:19.17 | sreich | uhm...that isn't 4.3... |
| 01:19.18 | kolla | er |
| 01:19.39 | PhrkOnLsh | sreich: how do you figure? Widget decor? |
| 01:19.41 | sreich | and the heart isn't us, iirc |
| 01:19.51 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: isn't the add widget dialog(the new one) in 4.3? |
| 01:19.54 | kolla | never mind, the second one is identical |
| 01:20.04 | PhrkOnLsh | sreich: no, the new one is in trunk. |
| 01:20.14 | sreich | interesting... |
| 01:20.15 | kolla | so I chose a nondefault icon set, I suppose that's it |
| 01:20.24 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: this looks indeed like a bad case of icon fail or distro patching |
| 01:20.30 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: this means every user must have thought I was crazy when I was talking about the new one :) |
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| 01:20.33 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: yes, yes, that may indeed be it :) |
| 01:20.43 | PhrkOnLsh | sreich: indeed. :) The new one is *nice* though! |
| 01:20.47 | PhrkOnLsh | well worth talking about! |
| 01:20.50 | sreich | yeah definitely |
| 01:20.51 | PhrkOnLsh | dinnermakes |
| 01:20.57 | kolla | there.. reload http://kolla.no/kde4-noteformat.png |
| 01:21.07 | kolla | upper right |
| 01:21.41 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: that's not really designed to go in that containment. |
| 01:21.54 | PhrkOnLsh | the notes plasmoid isn't like knotes, its an actual note :) |
| 01:21.56 | kolla | well, I never wanted it there in the first place |
| 01:22.00 | PhrkOnLsh | aha |
| 01:22.09 | sreich | kolla: anyways..yeah, I recommend using Oxygen, as this looks horrible |
| 01:22.15 | sreich | the metaphors don't make much sense it seems |
| 01:22.18 | PhrkOnLsh | sreich: now now |
| 01:22.22 | sreich | the clock is the wrong type of clock |
| 01:22.27 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: what? it's an opinion |
| 01:22.51 | sreich | and why is the remove widget button..green? |
| 01:22.57 | PhrkOnLsh | some of these userbase pages are gross |
| 01:22.58 | sreich | who thought that one out? :D |
| 01:25.14 | kolla | I find the oxygen theme too cold |
| 01:26.17 | kolla | or something, I dont know |
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| 01:26.41 | PhrkOnLsh | to each his own; no need to explain :) |
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| 01:29.10 | kolla | great... now the entire desktop hangs again |
| 01:30.16 | kolla | what I did was .. drop "desktop switcher" into the upper panel, where I want, and then RMB to open menu... bonk |
| 01:30.25 | sreich | PhrkOnLsh: agreed |
| 01:31.09 | kolla | ok, killed plasma from ssh login, nothing changed on screen |
| 01:32.00 | PhrkOnLsh | userbase needs more wikipedia-esque interpage linking that |
| 01:32.03 | PhrkOnLsh | userbase needs more wikipedia-esque interpage linking that's the problem |
| 01:32.20 | PhrkOnLsh | I thinnk I'm going to talk to Anne Wilson about putting some effort into revitalizing some of these pages |
| 01:32.34 | kolla | wow, serious freeze |
| 01:33.00 | kolla | even X wont die |
| 01:33.49 | PhrkOnLsh | kolla: :( |
| 01:34.10 | kolla | from ps... "21353 ? Ds 1:48 [X]" |
| 01:34.17 | kolla | reboot time |
| 01:34.42 | PhrkOnLsh | wow, userbase upload dialog fail. I upload without a file extension, it gives warning, I go back to give it one, it warns that the file name changed ^_^ |
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| 01:35.23 | dios_mio | where do we put the flash plugin for konquerer? |
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| 01:36.33 | PhrkOnLsh | guess he figured it out? :) |
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| 01:41.02 | PhrkOnLsh | is it bad form to upload to userbase screenshots with custom/distro wallpaper? |
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| 01:43.49 | smacnay | Hi, is there a sip app (audio and video) for kde? |
| 01:44.07 | PhrkOnLsh | smacnay: not KDe4 unfortunately :( |
| 01:44.09 | PhrkOnLsh | KDE4 |
| 01:44.23 | smacnay | PhrkOnLsh: any chance that there will be one? |
| 01:44.25 | PhrkOnLsh | you've to stick with GKT+ Ekiga or KDE3 Twinkle |
| 01:44.42 | PhrkOnLsh | smacnay: there was an attempt at one for a Google SOC project, but it never went too far, i think :( |
| 01:45.03 | smacnay | too bad - how about a webcam app for pictures and recording stuff? |
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| 01:46.58 | smacnay | I am just going to try out kde4 here in Debian sid and see what I think... |
| 01:47.14 | PhrkOnLsh | smacnay: komado or something similar |
| 01:47.19 | PhrkOnLsh | komodo |
| 01:47.29 | PhrkOnLsh | kamoso, that was it. |
| 01:47.47 | PhrkOnLsh | smacnay: It may not be in Debian though, i'm not sure |
| 01:48.25 | lmurray | tsb, dunno if anyone actually pointed you to the setting to disable the ufly desktop switch popup -> It's the "Popup desktop name on desktop switch" setting in system settings, window behavior. |
| 01:48.58 | lmurray | ufly ugly |
| 01:49.19 | PhrkOnLsh | lol |
| 01:49.26 | tsb | lmurray, ah, there it is! thanks! |
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| 01:50.21 | PhrkOnLsh | oh, the userbase upload warning (about it being renamed) is just capitalizing the first letter of the filename per MediaWiki usage |
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| 02:12.55 | dios_mio | how can i tell if i am using the nvidia drivers? |
| 02:13.43 | PhrkOnLsh | dios_mio: lsmod|grep nvidia |
| 02:13.53 | dios_mio | thanks man |
| 02:14.00 | PhrkOnLsh | enjoy |
| 02:14.09 | dios_mio | ok so how do i enable it? |
| 02:14.21 | PhrkOnLsh | dios_mio: ask your distro's IRC channel :) |
| 02:14.27 | dios_mio | ok thanks |
| 02:14.29 | PhrkOnLsh | dios_mio: what distribution are you running? |
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| 02:58.13 | cleary | wow, I'm quite surprised at how many quassel users there are |
| 02:58.51 | cleary | out of curiousity, are you using a distributed server/client or the monolothic server/client package? |
| 02:59.08 | cleary | (if any quassel users are alive...) |
| 02:59.37 | PhrkOnLsh | konvi > * |
| 02:59.41 | PhrkOnLsh | ducks |
| 02:59.55 | PhrkOnLsh | konvi + irssiproxy + screen to be exact but hey :) |
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| 03:00.21 | cleary | not really related to the question, but thanks for the input ;) |
| 03:01.31 | PhrkOnLsh | I was just driveling aimlessly, don't mind me :) |
| 03:02.02 | kolla | quassel? *ignorant* |
| 03:02.31 | kolla | uses konversation |
| 03:02.32 | PhrkOnLsh | Qt IRC client. It has a client/server sort of setup so you can attached remote Quassel sessions to a server session |
| 03:02.58 | kolla | ok, I prefer to be gone when I'm.. gone :) |
| 03:04.32 | cleary | kolla: yeah, it depends on the use case of course |
| 03:04.41 | cleary | you can use it as a traditional client though |
| 03:05.01 | cleary | it has a couple of killer features for me, outside of the distributed model (which I do love) |
| 03:05.15 | Qu4Z | I dunno. When I want that sort of functionality, I usually use irssi ^^; |
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| 03:05.40 | cleary | 1) chat monitor: logs all chats on all channels (I sit in about 20-30 across 3-4 networks) |
| 03:06.15 | cleary | 2) url previews - mouseover a url, and you get a little preview of the page. I use this at work frequently :) |
| 03:06.45 | Qu4Z | That is neat, I must admit. |
| 03:06.50 | Qu4Z | Well, both of those things. |
| 03:06.55 | cleary | Qu4Z: irssi is fine, except that my experience with it has been less than intuitive when it comes to remembering keystrokes |
| 03:07.15 | cleary | and adding/removing networks and channels for auto connect |
| 03:07.44 | kolla | silly question.. in dolphin, how do I mark one file? |
| 03:07.52 | cleary | kolla: hit the + |
| 03:07.59 | cleary | or ctrl + left click |
| 03:08.40 | kolla | I need to turn off the "single click" thing |
| 03:08.54 | Sho_ | prefers double-click too |
| 03:08.55 | Qu4Z | I like the single click thing... can't you select a single file by hovering? |
| 03:09.03 | Qu4Z | Or drag-selecting just one file? |
| 03:09.05 | kolla | I want regular click to act like ctrl+click |
| 03:09.13 | Qu4Z | (I don't really know or use dolphin) |
| 03:09.21 | kolla | or something... why did everything turn so compicated |
| 03:09.23 | kolla | +l |
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| 03:09.26 | cleary | Qu4Z: no, hover not working here |
| 03:09.43 | cleary | kolla: yep - it's horses for courses |
| 03:09.51 | kolla | also I would like double click on empty space of desktop to pop up a dolphin file lister |
| 03:09.51 | Qu4Z | ... well, that's dumb <_< I suppose it's more n00b friendly or something? |
| 03:09.58 | cleary | I stupidly switch between kde on my personal lappy, and gnome at work |
| 03:10.15 | cleary | and even more stupidly, have single click in kde and double in gnome ;) |
| 03:10.20 | kolla | Qu4Z: death to "most users" |
| 03:10.24 | cleary | so it's a bundle of fun for me too |
| 03:10.33 | cleary | I just like single click better |
| 03:11.03 | kolla | well, it's fun when I just try to highlight a file, and god damn openoffice launches |
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| 03:11.10 | kolla | or whatever |
| 03:11.52 | Qu4Z | I like hover->highlight, click->do action |
| 03:11.55 | cleary | kolla: yeah, it comes down to what you're used to |
| 03:11.56 | Qu4Z | But then I'm lazy |
| 03:12.03 | Qu4Z | I cbf double-clicking when I could single click |
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| 03:13.05 | kolla | I also like triple click, and alt+doubleclick, and shift+doubleclick and whatever modifier+double click |
| 03:13.48 | Qu4Z | Yeah... those're pretty special too |
| 03:14.21 | kolla | double click to view, alt-doubleclick to edit, shift-doubleclick to print or whatever |
| 03:15.24 | Qu4Z | o_O |
| 03:15.47 | Qu4Z | What's wrong with click to view, alt-click to edit, and shift-click to print? |
| 03:15.52 | cleary | too complex for me ;) |
| 03:16.01 | cleary | single-clicks some more |
| 03:16.46 | Qu4Z | Well, I like single-click too, but I wouldn't object to a couple of modifier clicks for different open-with applications |
| 03:16.56 | Qu4Z | I could see a use for that. |
| 03:17.00 | kolla | Qu4Z: click to select.. alt-click one icon, alt-click next icon etc.. alt-doubleclick last icon and they all pop up in editor |
| 03:17.06 | Qu4Z | Often I have a file that I want to either edit or run |
| 03:17.54 | kolla | or just lasso the whole bunch of icons and alt-doubleclick to edit the lot |
| 03:17.58 | Qu4Z | Hover to select, hold control, hover over all the ones you want (my hover time is pretty short, so that may make a difference), then ... yeah |
| 03:18.16 | Qu4Z | Well, I support the lasso tool thing |
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| 03:22.33 | kolla_ | so instead of "search toolbar", a "filter toolbar" |
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| 03:23.31 | PhrkOnLsh | ah, netsplit |
| 03:23.31 | kolla_ | nice... now it got stuck again |
| 03:24.01 | kolla_ | all I did was changing between browser and edit mode in the location field of dolphin.. |
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| 03:24.08 | Sho_ | the nets them be splittin' |
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| 03:24.59 | kolla_ | and now my entire kde desktop hangs with the mouse pointer in an "edit" state |
| 03:24.59 | kolla_ | even the clock in the bar is stuck |
| 03:25.17 | kolla_ | on 04:34:08 |
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| 03:28.30 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: stop breaking the interwebs. |
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| 03:28.45 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: irc is not the interweb |
| 03:28.57 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: irc is on the interwebs. |
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| 03:29.23 | kolla_ | radeon crash |
| 03:29.26 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: second-rate irc is on the interwebs! |
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| 03:29.43 | dios_mio | can i get help with desktop effects? i cannot seem to enable them |
| 03:29.52 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: IRC > * |
| 03:30.04 | Qu4Z | I think we're disagreeing about the interwebs here. |
| 03:30.18 | PhrkOnLsh | dios_mio: do other 3D things like games work when you think you enabled the driver? |
| 03:30.22 | Qu4Z | I'm inclined to agree with Sho_ that IRC ain't been near no 'webs, but that's just me |
| 03:30.28 | PhrkOnLsh | if opengl doesn't work on KDE I doubt you did. |
| 03:30.37 | dios_mio | PhrkOnLsh, well i dont have nay games installed |
| 03:30.44 | kolla_ | boom.. http://dpaste.com/118522/ |
| 03:30.51 | PhrkOnLsh | depends on if the interwebs are world wide web or internet, Qu4Z, Sho_ |
| 03:30.52 | PhrkOnLsh | :) |
| 03:31.04 | Sho_ | the interwebs are a subset of the intertubes, PhrkOnLsh |
| 03:31.08 | PhrkOnLsh | www= port 80, internet=1-65365, including 6666 |
| 03:31.11 | Sho_ | irc is on the intertubes, next to the interwebs |
| 03:31.15 | Qu4Z | That's what I mean about disagreeing as to what it is |
| 03:31.19 | Qu4Z | lol, there we go |
| 03:31.31 | dios_mio | this is what I did... I installed my card's driver from nvidia site, and I let it modify the xorg.conf.. it hadnt added a glx line, but i added that manually and tried that way too.. to no avail.. the driver is loaded, I checked |
| 03:31.32 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: ohhh |
| 03:32.44 | Sho_ | now the interwebs can intrude upon irc via second-rate clients |
| 03:33.02 | kolla_ | PhrkOnLsh: in these firewall/NAT maniac days, all protocols bottlenecks via port 80 and 443 anyways :) |
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| 03:33.15 | PhrkOnLsh | lol |
| 03:33.29 | PhrkOnLsh | Sho_: webchat.freenode isn't /that/ bad :P |
| 03:33.42 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: not as good as Konvi :) |
| 03:33.53 | PhrkOnLsh | well |
| 03:33.58 | magyar | hi is there a way to get kontact calendar to work with caldav? |
| 03:34.05 | PhrkOnLsh | now that you mention it. I think we need to spend some time apart :P |
| 03:35.18 | Sho_ | PhrkOnLsh: well you're known to be polygamous when it comes to clients |
| 03:36.35 | PhrkOnLsh | lol |
| 03:36.41 | PhrkOnLsh | Pretty much anything i"m polygamous |
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| 03:39.50 | PhrkOnLsh | I think I may find a different browser, speaking of which... |
| 03:40.06 | PhrkOnLsh | konqi isn't opening in new tabs no matter how hard I try :( |
| 03:42.00 | kolla_ | so can quassel have transparent background? |
| 03:42.28 | kolla_ | which is like the only thing I miss in konversation |
| 03:42.56 | cleary | kolla_: dunno |
| 03:43.00 | Sho_ | kolla_: pondered asking the konvi people to add it? |
| 03:43.06 | kolla_ | well, that and mass-kick :P |
| 03:43.35 | cleary | kolla_: with quassel 5.0 it allows custom css for theming |
| 03:44.22 | cleary | so quite possibly, without an explicit tick box in the settings dialog |
| 03:44.22 | kolla_ | Sho_: I just heard about quassel a few minutes ago :) |
| 03:44.23 | Sho_ | kolla_: sure, but if you want something in Konvi, why not ask the Konvi people? |
| 03:44.37 | kolla_ | what is konvi? |
| 03:44.48 | Sho_ | kolla_: Konversation |
| 03:44.52 | kolla_ | oh |
| 03:45.20 | kolla_ | I did, every now and then |
| 03:46.25 | Sho_ | kolla_: If they didn't want to add it in the past, it's probably because they dislike hacks and didn't want to do fake transparency - but with COMPOSITE these days it can be done cleanly |
| 03:46.49 | kolla_ | I prefer the hacks |
| 03:46.57 | kolla_ | they dont make my gfx card crash :) |
| 03:47.54 | kolla_ | but true, I think that was the answer when I asked |
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| 03:48.28 | Sho_ | kolla_: I'm pretty sure they'd be open to a feature request for transparent backgrounds implemented via COMPOSITE |
| 03:49.11 | kolla_ | no need to shout :P |
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| 03:50.24 | kolla_ | Sho_: I would say it should be a framework thing, qt should just offer alphachannels as "colours" in the palette |
| 03:50.26 | Sho_ | kolla_: Sorry, habit because X extension names are frequentily capitalized |
| 03:50.43 | Sho_ | kolla_: Qt 4.5 actually does support it |
| 03:51.13 | kolla_ | about time, I've moaned about this for like 7-8 years :) |
| 03:51.47 | Sho_ | or 4.4 actually, my bad |
| 03:52.03 | Sho_ | there's a new Qt::WA_TranslucentBackground widget attribute since then, previously you had to use Xlib calls |
| 03:53.11 | kolla_ | in the "select color" dialog, once should be able to set alphachannels along with RGB values |
| 03:54.06 | Sho_ | it's not that simple yet sadly, but generally speaking it's quite simple to add translucent backgrounds in konvi for the konvi developers since qt 4.4+ |
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| 04:01.35 | kolla_ | so many annoyance... I have this autohide bar at the bottom, why does it take a second for it to pop up? |
| 04:01.42 | kolla_ | bar.. panel |
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| 04:04.26 | kolla_ | grr.. nice, now my trashcan was nicely arranged below this rss plasmoid |
| 04:05.06 | kolla_ | oh.. has the desktop cashew vanished in 4.3.3? yay!!! |
| 04:07.56 | kolla_ | and this is really silly... "create new folder" on desktop, and voila.. it's like being back in the eighties, entire desktop is locked till I have entered name of new folder |
| 04:07.59 | kolla_ | hilarious |
| 04:08.34 | cleary | kolla_: what is your preferred workflow for that? |
| 04:08.47 | Sho_ | kolla_: no, the cashew is still in 4.3.3 |
| 04:09.06 | kolla_ | cleary: not blocking anything? |
| 04:09.19 | kolla_ | what is workflow anyways? |
| 04:09.35 | cleary | workflow is not the right word, just couldn't think of the right one on time |
| 04:09.39 | cleary | (still can't) |
| 04:10.03 | kolla_ | it could just do the obvious, open a requester asking for name, like it does, and _not_ block anything? |
| 04:10.06 | cleary | the problem imo with not locking the desktop is it's not necessarily obvious what is needed to be done |
| 04:10.33 | cleary | the visual cue with the fade out etc is very obvious |
| 04:10.37 | kolla_ | also, what if I want to create 10 folders? |
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| 04:10.45 | kolla_ | what is "the workflow" for that? |
| 04:11.32 | cleary | is that even a use case that needs considering? |
| 04:11.44 | kolla_ | from amiga I'm used to just go to the menu, hammer 10 times on "create folder", let go of the menu and ten "create folder" requesters pop up ontop of one anohter asking me for the names I want to give |
| 04:11.45 | cleary | I'm just playing devil's advocate here |
| 04:12.00 | kolla_ | without locking up anything |
| 04:12.14 | cleary | I couldn't give a shit either way cause I'm in cli for most of my stuff anyway |
| 04:12.26 | kolla_ | sure it's a usecase, it's called filemanagement |
| 04:12.53 | kolla_ | (something linux desktopwannabes totally blow at, btw) |
| 04:13.16 | kolla_ | (not that windows or OSX is any better, but hey...) |
| 04:13.23 | cleary | you know, it's a lot easier to have the discussion without the expletives |
| 04:13.30 | cleary | I'll let you rant on your own |
| 04:13.36 | kolla_ | :) |
| 04:13.58 | kolla_ | butt seriously, locking the desktop, that is really like something out of the eighties |
| 04:14.01 | Sho_ | once again invokes the magic "report it!" |
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| 04:14.23 | kolla_ | huhuh, I said "butt" |
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| 04:15.35 | kolla_ | haha, I created a folder, and in its wisdom, it was created under the rss feed reader plasmoid |
| 04:15.42 | kolla_ | applauds |
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| 04:16.47 | kolla_ | so here we go... right click, unluck widgets, move away rss reader, move new folder icon... rearrange rss reader, wont bother to lock it again |
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| 04:16.53 | kolla_ | unluck.. unlock |
| 04:17.52 | kolla_ | ah right, and since the rss reader widget is also partly under my terminal window, it decided to pop up the "dragbar" thingy there.. under konsole, so I have to move that way first too |
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| 04:24.43 | PsciCodeliXHAt | can I install new fonts for use with konsole |
| 04:24.46 | PsciCodeliXHAt | ? |
| 04:26.40 | cleary | PsciCodeliXHAt: install fonts as per normal in kde |
| 04:26.54 | cleary | then edit the konsole profile, and choose whatever font you like |
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| 04:27.48 | kolla_ | so I decided the default blue wasnt the colour I wanted for my folder icon, so I right clicked it, properties, clicked the icon, selected the nice green "folder-green", ok and ok... what happened? |
| 04:28.15 | kolla_ | nothing |
| 04:28.18 | kolla_ | nada |
| 04:28.25 | kolla_ | icon is still blue |
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| 04:28.39 | kolla_ | if I pick properties, it shows the green one though |
| 04:28.40 | cleary | "The squeaky wheel gets the grease. The whining wheel gets replaced" |
| 04:28.55 | cleary | or in this case, added to my ignore list :/ |
| 04:29.08 | PsciCodeliXHAt | cleary: thank you |
| 04:29.50 | cleary | PsciCodeliXHAt: no worries |
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| 04:36.29 | kolla_ | and how do I turn off preview of folder content when hovering the mouse over? |
| 04:37.57 | kolla_ | aha, the blue defult folder is used when I configure "preview of... [x] folder" |
| 04:39.48 | kolla_ | and every time I do something in desktop setting, it sorts the icons in the upper left corner, even when I have "sort icons" set to "unsorted" |
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| 05:07.14 | LinuxDolt | hey... kde seems to want to make my joystick act as a mouse... is there any way to disable this behavior? i want it for playing games, not for centering my cursor everytime i release the dang thing while using it in a game... (if it'll even work at all in games, since it's already being captured by kde, honestly haven't gotten that far) |
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| 05:08.46 | Sho_ | LinuxDolt: fwwi, i doubt this has anything to do with kde |
| 05:08.51 | Sho_ | *fwiw |
| 05:10.11 | LinuxDolt | hm... what could it be caused by then? i don't have anything set in my xorg.conf besides mouse and keyboard, i even intentionally uninstalled the "joystick" driver thinking maybe it might be loading it anyways simply for being in existence. |
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| 05:11.31 | LinuxDolt | none of the buttons on it are acting like mouse buttons either, just the joystick is acting like a mouse |
| 05:12.27 | Sho_ | LinuxDolt: well the xorg.conf is fairly irrelevant for input devices these days |
| 05:12.41 | Sho_ | the x server hotplugs them, and uses the evdev driver for nearly everything |
| 05:12.56 | Sho_ | your typical setup doesn't even need an xorg.conf these days |
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| 05:35.43 | LinuxDolt | Sho_: so i should go nag in xorg's channel, whatever it is? |
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| 05:37.49 | Sho_ | LinuxDolt: yup, or #yourdistro might have the skinny on FDI policies they use for joysticks or something |
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| 06:13.54 | Smak | I upgraded to kde 4.3 from 4.2 this weekend, everything seemed to go fine, however now my K-Menu is blank. No applications or anything except logout/lock. |
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| 06:15.29 | RingtailedFox | heya, guys.... is this the proper channel for KDE for Windows? |
| 06:16.02 | RingtailedFox | i'm just wondering if the fish:// protocol in konqueror was carried over to windows with KDE 4 |
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| 06:34.16 | Smak | well I do have /etc/xdg/menus/ kde-4.3-applications.menu but why is it not being read? |
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| 06:41.18 | r00t_ninja | how can i get a right to left panel |
| 06:41.24 | r00t_ninja | Sysinfo for 'sam-desktop': Linux 2.6.31-14-generic running KDE 4.3.2 (KDE 4.3.2), CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.80GHz at 2791 MHz (5582 bogomips), HD: 4/35GB, RAM: 606/614MB, 138 proc's, 4.1h up |
| 06:41.30 | r00t_ninja | kubuntu |
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| 06:48.29 | Smak | solution for my previous post. remove /var/tmp/cache kdeusername restart kde. |
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| 07:12.28 | r00t_ninja | does kwin in kde 4.3 have tiling? |
| 07:13.03 | r00t_ninja | and can i only have the panel show on one desktop |
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| 07:31.09 | padde | does anybody of you sometimes do copy & paste from Konsole? I often (but not always) get lots of trailing spaces on some (but not all) lines when I do that. I think it started with KDE 4, and it's *annoying*... |
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| 07:32.32 | padde | now I don't know if it's konsole's fault, or klipper's, or X's, or maybe even bash's or ssh's (which I access via Konsole)... and thus don't know where to report it... |
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| 07:33.24 | padde | i found an "opposite" bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159807 |
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| 08:06.02 | vivainio | eek, kde crash reporting app thinks my stack trace is not "good enough", even though it is (it has all the available debug information) |
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| 08:14.15 | rohan | how do i get dolphin to open a new terminal window instead of opening one below, when i press f4? i know about shift-f4, but I want to use f4. |
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| 09:07.03 | annew | does konqueror use nspluginviewer? |
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| 09:07.31 | Sho_ | annew: it was created for konqueror |
| 09:07.40 | annew | ok, thanks |
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| 09:07.51 | annew | I'm sick of firefox freezing my desktop |
| 09:08.02 | annew | but google-docs, for instance, won't run in konqueror |
| 09:08.27 | Sho_ | annew: try using the user agent thingie to make google docs believe that konq is firefox |
| 09:08.30 | Sho_ | often helps |
| 09:08.40 | annew | ok - worth a try, thanks |
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| 09:11.17 | annew | Sho_: sadly, it didn't work |
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| 09:12.00 | Sho_ | :( |
| 09:12.06 | Sho_ | maybe try rekonq |
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| 09:13.17 | annew | I tried that yesterday - but I don't know if it can mimic ff - I'll take a look later today |
| 09:13.19 | annew | have to go now |
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| 09:39.44 | gazra | Hi guys!! |
| 09:40.14 | gazra | Is there a way to make kontact calender write to google calendar, I have it now read only |
| 09:42.12 | vivainio | annew: try chromium |
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| 09:52.36 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 09:52.50 | Sho_ | hello Dumble |
| 09:53.22 | Dumble | hello Sho_ |
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| 10:33.27 | rogersman | Im using konqueror's ability to pre-load an instance at boot, however after first usage then closing, subsiquent sessions take the usual time to load...is there any way to keep a pre-loaded konqueror in memory? (short of not closing it in the first place obviously) |
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| 11:08.03 | rogersman | half and hour later... |
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| 11:21.51 | mbirkis | hi! is it possible to use multiple monitors with KDE 4.3.1? |
| 11:22.23 | mbirkis | i am on gentoo btw |
| 11:22.25 | cb400f | depends on which multiple monitor setup you want... |
| 11:23.13 | cb400f | xrandr/xinerama stuff yes... multiple X displays, no |
| 11:23.36 | mbirkis | cb400f: i wan't to have it so that i can use openoffice to show the presentation on one screen and the presentation notes on the other screen |
| 11:23.57 | cb400f | that should be possible.. what gfxcard and driver? |
| 11:24.32 | mbirkis | i have the VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 11:24.55 | cb400f | then just fire up krandrtray and set it up |
| 11:24.56 | szal | 4.3.1.. I always knew that Gentoo is lagging behind a bit ;) |
| 11:25.16 | cb400f | but note that intel drivers only support a virtual area of 2048x2048 |
| 11:25.41 | cb400f | so you must set the monitor to 1024x768 and the vga out to 1024x768 |
| 11:25.45 | cb400f | (or smaller) |
| 11:26.00 | rogersman | mbirkis...if like me you had trouble reliably extending the desktop to another monitor, you could try this (if you have a spare computer) ... code.google.com/p/synergy-plus/ |
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| 11:29.26 | mbirkis | rogersman: that is not what i need |
| 11:29.57 | rogersman | okay, then, shove it up ur arse! |
| 11:30.56 | szal | rogersman: wash your mouth.. |
| 11:31.13 | pinotree | rogersman: err? |
| 11:31.40 | rogersman | does not appreciate such responses to friendly suggestions... |
| 11:31.48 | mbirkis | cb400f: i have the 2.8.1 intel driver |
| 11:31.58 | mbirkis | rogersman: was that a hostile reply? |
| 11:32.20 | cb400f | does that support 4096x4096 virtual? .. I heard that was coming in the future |
| 11:32.23 | pinotree | rogersman: i just told you this is not what he needed, so not worth for such rude reply from you. |
| 11:32.34 | pinotree | *he just told ... |
| 11:32.36 | mbirkis | cb400f: i think so, i can do it in gnome |
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| 11:41.39 | mefisto | hi peeps |
| 11:41.52 | mefisto | just installed kde4 on freebsd box and i got this error : |
| 11:41.53 | mefisto | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.58 | mefisto | i cant log in |
| 11:42.05 | mefisto | ideas ? |
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| 11:43.22 | rogersman | mefisto: dont know, but googling the error message(s) gives loads of results if all else fails....good hunting |
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| 11:43.56 | szal | did you install dbus? |
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| 11:45.21 | mefisto | szal, i compiled it from ports |
| 11:45.34 | mefisto | i presume tht it added all the crap i would need and then some |
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| 11:48.21 | mefisto | well .. the dbus-qt4 tells me that it has been installed |
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| 12:49.07 | nodie | hi |
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| 12:49.25 | nodie | how can I change the number of lines showed in desktop icon names in Kde 3? |
| 12:50.04 | cb400f | somewhere in konqueror settings under appearance or something |
| 12:50.21 | cb400f | .. noone remembers kde3 anymore >:-) |
| 12:50.37 | aapzak | just hopping in for quick question: intel+kde gives sometimes freezes on me when I plugin AC adaptor, sounds familiar to anyone? Could it be that enabling compositing triggers my freeze? |
| 12:50.54 | nodie | thanks cb400f |
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| 12:51.50 | cb400f | aapzak: does it freeze if you enable effects manually? |
| 12:52.20 | aapzak | shall I try that a couple of times, it doesn't happen all the time |
| 12:52.41 | mefisto | emm .. .guys |
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| 12:52.52 | mefisto | will desktop effects work on Intel GPU ? |
| 12:53.00 | aapzak | they sure do |
| 12:53.01 | cb400f | yes |
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| 12:53.40 | mefisto | how can i check if HW drivers work ? |
| 12:53.44 | cb400f | however.. if you have xorg that's 6-15 months old it won't perform very well |
| 12:54.03 | aapzak | latest intel drivers seem to be fine |
| 12:54.03 | mefisto | i finished compiling the box 2 hours ago |
| 12:54.12 | aapzak | 2.7.x and up |
| 12:54.13 | mefisto | (freebsd 7.2) |
| 12:54.20 | aapzak | ah |
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| 12:55.00 | aapzak | cb400f: I've switched compositing off/on a couple of times but nothing happens |
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| 12:55.37 | cb400f | maybe have a look at what powerdevil does when the a/c is plugged in |
| 12:55.51 | aapzak | yeah, I'll take a look |
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| 12:57.39 | aapzak | cb400f: I must admit, I'm a arch user who did not put a lot of time in the power settings of his machine |
| 12:59.15 | aapzak | I jump from Xtreme Powersave to Performance. As far as I know there isn't much changing, just the compositing and the system powersaving scheme |
| 12:59.25 | QwertyM | is there a spec for packaging plasmoids? |
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| 12:59.37 | QwertyM | specifically, binary ones? |
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| 13:14.41 | Rahim | how can I print even/odd pages from Okular? |
| 13:15.26 | Rahim | how can I print even/odd pages from Okular? |
| 13:19.38 | aapzak | Rahim: I just took a look at the print dialog but could not find what you're looking for |
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| 13:20.46 | Rahim | aapzak: Duplex Printing?? Does it mean printing odd/even pages? |
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| 13:23.53 | BeteNoire | how do you force other user log out nowadays? |
| 13:24.08 | annew | vivainio: no fedora rpm for chromium, and don't have time to build just now |
| 13:24.17 | icwiener | Rahim: Nope, that's printing both ides of the paper for printers which support it. |
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| 13:25.31 | Rahim | icwiener: oh |
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| 13:39.56 | QwertyM | geo27: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Keyboard+Status+Applet?content=115234 if anyone else needs this :) |
| 13:41.43 | geo27 | QwertyM: great work ! thanks a lot ! |
| 13:43.18 | aapzak | Rahim was right about odd/even. Not in the KDE printer dialog. I just checked it, it is in the Gnome printer dialog. |
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| 13:45.16 | salvin | is it possible to assign a reminder to birthdays in kontact? |
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| 13:46.46 | annew | salvin: you enter the birthday in the Details tab in kaddressbook (or Contacts, within kontact) |
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| 13:47.15 | Bou | salvin: annew : http://userbase.kde.org/KAddressBook |
| 13:47.19 | annew | it can be configured in Summary, too, to show you then |
| 13:47.35 | Bou | it says it's a feature maybe is it worth a "trick" section? |
| 13:48.04 | annew | Bou: no trick, really, is there? |
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| 13:48.14 | annew | it's just one piece of info inthe addressbook |
| 13:48.31 | Bou | annew: the reminder is automatically set? |
| 13:48.47 | Bou | as default, when setting the birthday field? |
| 13:49.03 | annew | hmm - in Summary I show everything coming in the next X days |
| 13:49.14 | salvin | annew: but i want a popup as reminder |
| 13:49.26 | annew | but you can set a birthday in KOrganizer as well and there you can set a popup reminder |
| 13:49.32 | salvin | like other events |
| 13:49.47 | annew | yes - and set it to Category birthdays, as well |
| 13:50.13 | annew | in kaddressbook you are associating it to a person |
| 13:50.23 | annew | in korganizer you are associating it with a date |
| 13:50.32 | annew | you can have both without problems |
| 13:50.34 | Bou | "Integrates with other Kontact components, e.g. exporting Birthday reminders to KOrganizer" --> I understand that it can be done automatically? |
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| 13:51.05 | annew | to be hones, it's all so integrated that I don't know where the boundaries are |
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| 13:51.22 | annew | I know I have birthdays set in both places and I get reminders from both in the Summary screen |
| 13:51.30 | salvin | annew: but i can't modify in korganizer the kaddressbook birthdays |
| 13:51.32 | annew | *honest |
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| 13:52.05 | annew | salvin: korganizer doesn't know anything about people, only dates |
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| 13:52.21 | annew | sec |
| 13:52.42 | salvin | annew: ok, but i want a popup for these events |
| 13:52.48 | salvin | is it possible? |
| 13:53.08 | annew | yes if you create them in korganizer |
| 13:54.05 | annew | I'm trying to find a configuration entry that I vaguely remember seeing |
| 13:54.26 | salvin | annew: no, too annoying |
| 13:54.34 | annew | what's annoying? |
| 13:54.57 | annew | you can create a birthday date and set a popup reminder that it is due on 5 days |
| 13:55.02 | annew | so you have time to buy a card |
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| 13:55.10 | annew | and a second reminder on the day before |
| 13:55.13 | salvin | create events for all birthdays in korganizer |
| 13:55.16 | annew | to ask if you posted it |
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| 13:55.24 | annew | all from the one entry |
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| 13:56.57 | annew | then on the Summary config screen use Show special occasions from calendar |
| 13:57.39 | mefisto | is there some rule about not letting you do anythiong in KDE ? |
| 13:57.39 | mefisto | The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' |
| 13:57.39 | mefisto | with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py'The |
| 13:57.40 | mefisto | factory does not support creating components of specified type. |
| 13:57.41 | annew | or in the Summary > Upcoming Events screen, Show birthdays |
| 13:57.47 | mefisto | ... or it just hates me ? |
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| 13:58.27 | salvin | annew: i show birthdays in the summary |
| 13:58.43 | salvin | but i want a popup reminder in korganizer |
| 13:58.53 | annew | so create it in korganizer! |
| 13:59.37 | salvin | annew: an event for each birthday? |
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| 13:59.46 | annew | of course |
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| 14:00.00 | annew | you can hardly have one event for many birthdays |
| 14:00.03 | annew | it wouldn't make sense |
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| 14:01.18 | salvin | annew: imho there's a way to modify the reminder in kaddressbook birtdays |
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| 14:05.17 | mefisto | can anyone give me any directions |
| 14:05.28 | mefisto | im having issues while trying to config a printer in KDE4 |
| 14:05.47 | mefisto | The service 'Printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword 'system-config-printer-kde/system-config-printer-kde.py |
| 14:05.57 | mefisto | thats the message i get |
| 14:06.42 | mefisto | and in .xsession-errors there is something about Undefined symbol "PyObject_GenericGetAttr" |
| 14:07.03 | mefisto | and i failed to find ANYTHING useful in google |
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| 14:10.22 | Obeliks | (Distro is Gentoo, using live ebuilds, re-built it a week ago or so, so post-4.3) |
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| 14:17.40 | annew | mefisto: what printer? |
| 14:17.46 | annew | and have you set it up in CUPS? |
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| 14:29.49 | taras | http://kde.org/download/ - this page is not updated yet for 4.3.3 |
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| 14:32.54 | mefisto | annew, any |
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| 14:33.45 | annew | mefisto: the kde/qt print system requires your printer to be set up within CUPS |
| 14:34.51 | kolla_ | and if you dont run local cups server, you're outta luck |
| 14:35.07 | kolla_ | *thockthockthock* |
| 14:35.35 | mefisto | oh |
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| 14:40.07 | Sho_ | taras: fixed! |
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| 14:53.45 | pinotree | ? |
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| 15:10.27 | annew | Sho_: how near is quanta+ for kde4? |
| 15:12.04 | Sho_ | annew: Pretty far I think. The idea is to sort of make a new Quanta+ based on the new KDevelop and its PHP support and such, but I don't think there has been actually any work done on that. |
| 15:12.22 | annew | ok, so I'll say 'in progress' thanks |
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| 15:12.54 | Fuyang | need a little help, what is the shotcut to go to next desktop, in kde? |
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| 15:13.13 | QwertyManiac | ctrl+F1, F2 and so on |
| 15:13.29 | Fuyang | and what is the wedgit for using mouse to click to a specific desktop?? I deleted it but can not make it back |
| 15:13.39 | QwertyManiac | its called Pager |
| 15:13.46 | Fuyang | oh, thanks |
| 15:14.05 | Fuyang | ctrl + F1 works fine! thanks alot |
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| 15:16.55 | d2r2 | hi ! do you guys know if it is possible to force kmail in kde 4.2, to display messages in the kde 3.5 fashion ? |
| 15:17.22 | thiago | and the 3.5 fashion would be? |
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| 15:17.59 | d2r2 | it would be without thread display |
| 15:18.15 | d2r2 | just messages one after the other |
| 15:18.19 | thiago | so you mean the message list view? |
| 15:18.25 | d2r2 | yes, sorry |
| 15:18.41 | thiago | 4.2... that has changed since |
| 15:18.48 | thiago | I think you have buttons next to the search field |
| 15:18.50 | thiago | switch to Classic |
| 15:18.59 | d2r2 | let me see |
| 15:19.51 | d2r2 | ok, I was in 'classic' |
| 15:20.05 | d2r2 | I presume it has to be ni aggregatnio mode |
| 15:20.19 | pinotree | the aggregation button, the 4th from the left |
| 15:20.20 | thiago | switch from aggregation to something else |
| 15:20.51 | d2r2 | yay ! I found it . flat date view is the old way I'm used to |
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| 15:21.18 | d2r2 | thank you, I had not noticied these buttons |
| 15:21.33 | dziadu | hey guys |
| 15:21.36 | dziadu | should I wonder this message "PowerDevil was compiled without Xss and Xext support, or the XSync extension"? |
| 15:22.09 | d2r2 | um ! "PowerDevil" would make me nervous just by the name |
| 15:23.29 | d2r2 | oh, 'filter by status is really nice |
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| 15:27.00 | Fuyang | err....I just installed scim, but how can I make it work?? |
| 15:27.16 | Fuyang | when I press ctrl + space nothing happen... |
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| 15:44.59 | EagleScreen | hello |
| 15:45.00 | Indian` | hello EagleScreen |
| 15:45.00 | EagleScreen | is there any spacific channel for KDE on MS Windows? |
| 15:45.09 | mefisto | EagleScreen, did you try #kde-windows ? |
| 15:45.10 | Indian` | here there are more people I guess |
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| 15:49.24 | seicherlbob | Hi! KDE Control panel tells me, that my system is not supporting dual head displays... i'm running ATI x1900 with 2 Monitors (working in dualhead on serperate windows installation). I already tried setting virtual screen in xorg.conf but using xrandr makes my screens only black. anyone here that has dualheads up and running in kde?? I'd love to use the radeon driver and no propreatary ATI stuff. |
| 15:50.51 | seicherlbob | (btw. KDE 4.3.2) |
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| 16:00.54 | dihae | seicherlbob: I suspect you are using kubuntu? |
| 16:02.05 | dziadu | he guys, nobody helps me? if it doe not work, just tell me, please |
| 16:02.05 | seicherlbob | dihae: yep... but as noone there knows anything, i thought i could ask here aswell |
| 16:02.13 | dziadu | should I wonder this message "PowerDevil was compiled without Xss and Xext support, or the XSync extension"? |
| 16:02.54 | annma | dziadu: did you build KDE yourself? |
| 16:02.59 | annma | or is it a distro? |
| 16:03.10 | dihae | seicherlbob: in kubuntu, it seems the GUI option is not active; however, a dual head setup an be done using xrandr on the commandline |
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| 16:03.44 | dziadu | annma: yes |
| 16:03.50 | dziadu | annma: gentoo, like always |
| 16:03.56 | seicherlbob | dihae: i know, i used to do that. but i configured xorg.conf with the virtual screen and xrandr ends up with 2 black screens and i need to restart X |
| 16:04.03 | dziadu | Xorg.log shows the SYNC ext is loaded |
| 16:04.21 | dziadu | PD shows after cmake that libxext and libxss were found |
| 16:04.24 | pinotree | but you built powerdevil without those extensions |
| 16:04.29 | annma | dziadu: then get the mssing dependencies |
| 16:04.34 | dziadu | xorg is the lates: 1.7.1 |
| 16:04.35 | dihae | seicherlbob: that's strange, I've been using a dualhead setup for at least 2 weeks now |
| 16:04.36 | pinotree | → #gentoo-kde |
| 16:04.57 | dihae | using an ATi mobility radeon x1600 |
| 16:06.03 | dihae | and the 'radeon' driver |
| 16:06.40 | seicherlbob | dihae: well, i dont know why, but it stays black. |
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| 16:09.01 | dihae | seicherlbob: and there are no peculiar X errors? |
| 16:09.04 | dziadu | pinotree: so, if i want to add this support what should i do? some option for cmake? I see nothing in ccmake window |
| 16:09.36 | pinotree | dziadu: all of that is detected automatically at cmake time, if available |
| 16:09.47 | pinotree | so, you should ask in #gentoo-kde for more information |
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| 16:10.03 | annma | rm cmakecache.txt in build dir and restart dziadu |
| 16:10.27 | annma | restart the build |
| 16:11.21 | dziadu | annma: you mean to restart system? |
| 16:11.56 | seicherlbob | dihae: is xinerama still necessary or could it help with my dual head problem? |
| 16:11.57 | pinotree | dziadu: she's assuming you were building from sourcs manually, which isn't the case |
| 16:11.59 | annma | restart the BUILD |
| 16:12.12 | annma | if yo ucannot do what I told you then refer to your distro |
| 16:12.12 | pinotree | dziadu: really, ask in #gentoo-kde |
| 16:12.23 | annma | I assumed you built manually as we all do |
| 16:12.35 | annma | distro matter in distro channel |
| 16:12.52 | dihae | dihae: I don't use xinerama, only xrandr works fine |
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| 16:15.42 | dihae | seicherlbob: I actually never used xinerama, as it didn't work well with different resolutions |
| 16:16.25 | seicherlbob | dihae: ok... well. no clue whats the problem with xrandr |
| 16:16.27 | dziadu | annma: I can do, but it changes nothing |
| 16:16.54 | seicherlbob | dihae: whats your setup? Hardware/Driver? |
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| 16:18.35 | dihae | seicherlbob: ATi mobility radeon X1600 with radeon driver, using randr 1.3 |
| 16:18.56 | seicherlbob | dihae: could you post me your xorg.conf somewhere? |
| 16:19.06 | seicherlbob | i'd like to check if there are some settings that break it |
| 16:19.07 | dihae | seicherlbob: this is what I use to set up dual head: xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x800 --left-of LVDS --output LVDS --mode 1280x800 |
| 16:19.37 | seicherlbob | dihae: well, i did the same... just that i use --right-of for the second output. |
| 16:20.37 | dihae | seicherlbob: http://dihae.pastebin.com/m25903d5e |
| 16:21.10 | dihae | I actually just edited kubuntu's generated xorg.cong |
| 16:21.29 | seicherlbob | dihae: thanks a lot. i will compare the configs, maybe the conf is screwed up. I alsways tried not to edit it too much because i dont understand it 100% |
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| 16:22.03 | dihae | iirc, the only thing I edited was the Virtual screen sized |
| 16:22.07 | dihae | *sizes |
| 16:22.08 | tsb | In systemsettings you have "Keep window thumbnails:" "Always (breaks minimization)". What does that mean? That the program is never suspended while minimized or what? |
| 16:22.12 | annma | dziadu: then your headers are not installed |
| 16:22.22 | annma | ask in #gentoo-kde |
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| 17:36.52 | wojtek | hello there |
| 17:37.21 | wojtek | can anyone help me with compiling kde 4.4? http://pastie.org/692223 |
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| 17:38.48 | Simkin | anyone know what the time server in linux would be called? |
| 17:38.53 | Simkin | i have rdate for getting the time from time servers |
| 17:38.58 | Simkin | but how do you do the reverse and serve up a time? |
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| 17:54.00 | do0ob | Simkin: look up how to setup a local ntp server |
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| 17:59.47 | edje | hi all, is there a good guide somewhere to make a smooth transision from kde-3.5 to kde-4.3 ? |
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| 18:16.55 | licensed | my "system monitor - hard disk" plasmoid was showing hdd temps, and didn't show anymore |
| 18:17.05 | PovAddict | when I switch desktops, the windows slide as if I was scrolling on a 2x2 large desktop |
| 18:17.13 | PovAddict | can I make it do the same with the desktop wallpaper and the panel? |
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| 19:03.23 | Simkin | edje, i wish. |
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| 19:25.11 | lxsameer | hi , i use KDE 4.3.1 , it work well before, but it is very very slow now ( not in 3d effect) dolphin is slow (when i try to open a dir or a video file it take couple of time) |
| 19:25.47 | PovAddict | what did you change in your system? |
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| 19:27.36 | lxsameer | PovAddict: nothing , just some update , i use debian testing , sometimes kde crashed and i have to relogin to it , i think the crash caused by my VGA |
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| 20:02.29 | allyourrejects | When using pidgin, knotifier always posts 2 idential messeges for every action |
| 20:02.46 | allyourrejects | Gnome only posts1. (for things like user online/offline) |
| 20:03.01 | allyourrejects | seems to be the only app that does this. Any ideas how I can stop it? |
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| 20:12.26 | pinotree | allyourrejects: we don't develop pidgin... |
| 20:12.54 | PhrkOnLsh | that and pidgin doesn't do knotify notifications without an externel plugin. |
| 20:13.15 | allyourrejects | pinotree: no you don't. But knotify being the only one that does this i was wondering maybe if it was a known issue with knotify |
| 20:13.35 | allyourrejects | I'm only seeing 1 dbus event coming on the bus |
| 20:13.41 | allyourrejects | but 2 popup windows |
| 20:13.47 | pinotree | allyourrejects: no, this means pidgin (or some plugin of it) sends two events to knotify |
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| 20:15.02 | geo27 | Hi ! Today, I had two monitors, configured via xrender to be one above the other. I put the taskbar on top of the external display, but now |
| 20:15.49 | geo27 | I'm home with the only screen of my laptop, and the taskbar is not visible anymore. Does anyone know which config file I could check for this to be the same as before ? |
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| 20:18.07 | ambro528 | Hi, I seem to have done something to my KDE profile that makes all keys defunct except arrow keys. I can't even ctrl+alt+f1. Console works fine, and running KDE as another user works. |
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| 20:18.48 | allyourrejects | ambro528: System Settings -> Regional |
| 20:19.03 | allyourrejects | check your locale & keyboard settings there i believe |
| 20:21.20 | allyourrejects | pinotree: actually looks like its just my systray that does this |
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| 20:24.27 | ambro528 | actually all keys work, but I have to hold every key for half a second before it's recognized |
| 20:24.57 | wei | hmm, question, is there anyway to sort kmail emails in threads? |
| 20:26.31 | ambro528 | Looks like the "Slow keys" feature got turned on. How is that possible? I for sure haven't changed it. |
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| 20:27.31 | allyourrejects | ambro528: it can happen if you hold specific keys down to long and then hit yes on the prompt |
| 20:27.43 | allyourrejects | which is easy to do since the prompt comes up while you are typing you might not even see it |
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| 21:24.40 | Demerzel | hello folks ... quick question - is there a way to access passwords in the kde wallet using a perl script? |
| 21:24.55 | thiago_home | yes |
| 21:24.58 | thiago_home | via the D-Bus API |
| 21:25.09 | Demerzel | cool ... any pointers? |
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| 21:25.27 | Demerzel | i couldn't find anything searching for perl and kde wallet |
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| 21:27.02 | cb400f | Demerzel: try d-bus |
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| 21:29.04 | Demerzel | hmmm so there's a Net::DBus module hierarchy for perl - I'll have to read up on that - but not much in the way of dox re: kdewallet's d-bus interface |
| 21:29.08 | Demerzel | digging |
| 21:30.07 | cb400f | maybe qdbusviewer will help.. not really a perl nor d-bus expert.. or anything else |
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| 21:30.30 | Demerzel | never heard of that .. is that a qtdesigner plugin? |
| 21:30.57 | thiago_home | no |
| 21:31.03 | thiago_home | it's an application that is installed along with Qt |
| 21:31.13 | Demerzel | ah ok |
| 21:31.13 | thiago_home | if you have KDE, you have it |
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| 21:33.33 | Demerzel | hmmm qdbus exists, no qdbusviewer... but qdbus | grep -i kwallet does show what might be the class name for communicating with kwallet |
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| 21:33.47 | Demerzel | i gotta look into this a bit more |
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| 21:35.40 | allyourrejects | some distro's don't build the qdbus tools |
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| 21:36.11 | Demerzel | nice |
| 21:36.13 | Demerzel | qdbus org.kde.kwalletd /modules/kwalletd |
| 21:36.21 | allyourrejects | used to have to download the source and compile the qt-source/tools/ manually |
| 21:36.24 | Demerzel | basically seems like a web service |
| 21:36.35 | allyourrejects | Demerzel: thats dbus naming |
| 21:36.41 | Demerzel | allyourrejects: looks like qdbus (not the viewer) is doing fine |
| 21:37.10 | allyourrejects | well, i meant like the dbus interface generator, the viewer, etc |
| 21:37.12 | Demerzel | i need to see how to read a specific password, hopefully prompting the user for their wallet password, etc |
| 21:37.17 | Demerzel | ah ok |
| 21:37.25 | Demerzel | this is ubuntu so i figure that would be part of the game |
| 21:37.33 | Demerzel | nothing like another interface for control |
| 21:37.46 | allyourrejects | yeah, they don't build most of the special tools in qt-source/tools |
| 21:38.15 | allyourrejects | even qt4-dev-tools lacks it i believe |
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| 21:42.02 | Demerzel | hmmm |
| 21:42.04 | thiago_home | Demerzel: you need to open the wallet and then ask for the value |
| 21:42.07 | thiago_home | then you can also save it |
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| 21:43.51 | Demerzel | hmm |
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| 21:44.31 | Demerzel | this is more than a few minutes of work |
| 21:44.39 | Demerzel | looks like i'll have to tackle this later |
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| 21:45.03 | Demerzel | thanks for the help though, thiago_home, cb400f and allyourrejects |
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| 23:20.43 | joshjtl | hey folks, is there anyway to make KDE into a sort of tabbed gui experience? |
| 23:20.58 | PovAddict | that's vague |
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| 23:21.34 | joshjtl | PovAddict: hmm sort of like a tabbed window manager? |
| 23:23.28 | PhrkOnLsh | joshjtl: lmurray and the kwin boys are cooking something up. It's about to be merged into trunk for (iirc) KDE 4.5 |
| 23:24.20 | joshjtl | ooo PhrkOnLsh any more info anywhere? |
| 23:24.29 | PhrkOnLsh | somewhere on planet kde. hang on |
| 23:24.32 | PovAddict | I saw a video on youtube |
| 23:24.38 | PovAddict | looked like the functionality was working nicely |
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| 23:24.52 | PovAddict | but it was ugly as hell (intentionally; they were getting functionality first and nice looks second) |
| 23:25.26 | PovAddict | joshjtl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPSKFdaijiU |
| 23:25.58 | joshjtl | PovAddict: glad about functionallity first |
| 23:26.19 | PovAddict | that titlebar with the gray gradient is really ugly |
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| 23:26.27 | PovAddict | doesn't fit with the nice glassy Plasma panel :P |
| 23:26.35 | PhrkOnLsh | yeah, there was a blag post on it somewhere, too |
| 23:26.49 | PhrkOnLsh | must of the stuff is tiling though :( |
| 23:27.57 | PhrkOnLsh | http://www.jmata.co.cc/index.php |
| 23:28.46 | joshjtl | PovAddict: yeah that looks very cool |
| 23:29.20 | joshjtl | do "pretty" tabbed wm's exist? |
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| 23:29.55 | PhrkOnLsh | kwin will :) |
| 23:30.34 | joshjtl | yeah |
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| 23:33.03 | joshjtl | wonder if its possible to get the kubuntu netbook remix functionality on arch linux |
| 23:33.31 | valerio | hey, I'm still having this issue on trunk, where the notifications are shown with the generic gray boxes instead of within the plasma panel, even on new accounts. anyone has any idea why this happens? |
| 23:33.53 | PhrkOnLsh | joshjtl: compile kde from trunk |
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