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00:16.23 | freeedrich| | backups. |
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00:24.21 | word | phao: ask in your distribution's channel. :-/ |
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00:55.15 | deco | who do i make my volume buttons on my laptop control the volume in kmix ? |
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00:58.22 | Kuaera | deco: What kind of laptop? |
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01:04.32 | deco | Kuaera: hp pavillion |
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01:04.51 | Kuaera | deco: And which distribution? |
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01:05.10 | deco | Kuaera: debian 5 lenny hp pavilion zv5000 |
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01:54.01 | genewbie | how do i bring up the system settings using sudo? |
01:54.02 | genewbie | i forgot |
01:57.10 | genewbie | nevermind, i got it. |
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02:17.53 | maazu | ciao! |
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02:22.32 | pARAd0X85 | hi |
02:22.42 | pARAd0X85 | :) |
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02:23.35 | pARAd0X85 | I haven't found the source for the clock plasmoid |
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02:24.15 | pARAd0X85 | does anyone know if there is a python source for an analog clock plasmoid ? |
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02:29.48 | |linex| | Is it possible to make the K start button wider ? |
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02:51.07 | dystopianray | argh |
02:51.20 | dystopianray | my screensaver keeps going off all the time at random with kde 4.1 and opensuse 11.1 |
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03:28.52 | LuisCarlos | Hi. I'd like to map the 'windows' key to launch Kickoff. I can not assing that single key when customizing the Keyboard shortcut |
03:29.04 | LuisCarlos | I'm running Mandriva One 2009.1, kde 4.2 |
03:30.29 | LuisCarlos | I could not assign it neither on an Asus eee 1002HE not a Dell laptop |
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04:10.30 | coz_ | hey guys ok kubuntu 9.04 installed adobe falsh and sun java but neither are recognized how to? |
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04:22.40 | plasmoid007 | hi |
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04:26.31 | plasmoid007 | I've fellowed the tutorial but plasmapkg shows me an error |
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04:27.27 | plasmoid007 | plasmapkg(5220)/libplasma Plasma::Package::installPackage: No such file: "/home/packa/helloWorld" |
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04:52.08 | coz_ | waht is a good hex editor for kde |
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04:59.55 | trappist | In kde3, in kmail, I used to be able to say folder->thread messages to be able to expand/collapse threads. this seems to be missing in kde4, or have I set something up wrong, or I'm looking in the wrong place? |
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05:12.05 | nbetcher | hello fellow geeks and nerds |
05:12.13 | nbetcher | Anyone else having issues with Yahoo on Kopete? |
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05:14.32 | Jucato | nbetcher: in your Yahoo! account settings, go to Account Preferences tab, check "Override default server info" and use 66.163.181.106 as the IP |
05:14.52 | Jucato | (at least for now... all 3rd-party clients have the same problem) |
05:15.21 | nbetcher | Interesting. |
05:15.42 | nbetcher | So the subdomain IP was changed? Odd |
05:15.57 | nbetcher | And somehow this only affects third party clients? Even more od |
05:15.59 | nbetcher | odd* |
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05:17.50 | nbetcher | Your help is greatly appreciated though |
05:18.02 | nbetcher | If you were next door many cookies would be in order. |
05:18.28 | fyanardi | coz_: try okteta |
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05:19.54 | fyanardi | nbetcher: yahoo is removing the old protocol from it servers, and those servers you can use now are those haven't been changed |
05:20.32 | coz_ | fyanardi, thanks I installed it and it works great :) |
05:20.51 | fyanardi | coz: good :) |
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05:31.28 | erik-k | Wow... Just finished installing the latest KDE after getting qt-4.5.1. If this speed improvement holds, I may finally jump ship from kde 3.5 |
05:31.46 | erik-k | (latest = from trunk) |
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06:03.10 | erik-k | Has anyone else found knetwalk's level generator for "very hard" to be totally broken? |
06:05.12 | erik-k | It gives me levels that are clearly impossible to solve, e.g. straight pipes and tees in corners |
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06:58.23 | coz_ | hey guys how to do i get images to be viewed as thumbnails in dolphiin? |
07:00.25 | fyanardi | coz_: View -> Preview |
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07:02.39 | coz_ | fyanardi, ah thanks will it now remain that way? |
07:05.46 | fyanardi | coz_: yes, make sure your set dolphin to Use common view properties for each display |
07:05.55 | fyanardi | Settings -> View Modes -> General |
07:06.32 | coz_ | fyanardi, very nice thanks :) I am trying to stick with kde for a while |
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07:07.09 | fyanardi | coz_: great, hope you enjoy your stay with KDE (and stay with it forever :) |
07:07.28 | coz_ | fyanardi, well we will see... |
07:08.01 | fyanardi | :) |
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07:09.14 | coz_ | fyanardi, while I have you here :) when opening a text file the window has the "Documents" list on the left can I disable that permanetly? |
07:09.46 | coz_ | and enable dynamic word wrap permanently? |
07:10.24 | fyanardi | you mean you open text file using kate? |
07:10.41 | coz_ | well I just click on a text file and apparenlty it opened with kate |
07:11.32 | fyanardi | well, kate is KDE's advanced text file, if you want something simpler, you can use kwrite |
07:12.20 | coz_ | ok but it defaults to kate when I click a text file although I dont necessaryly want simpler just that documents view disabled |
07:12.25 | fyanardi | i don't know whether the document panel can be permanently disabled or not, let me take a look at it |
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07:15.39 | fyanardi | seems that you can't really disabled, why don't you just hide it? it is important to navigate all your open files, since kate can open multiple files simultaneously |
07:16.36 | g1lt | how do I configure the number of connections dolphin uses for ftp transactions? it is overloading servers when I try and transfer/move a large number of files |
07:17.12 | Jucato | (kwrite is KDE's default text editor, not Kate. if your system defaults to Kate, that is your distro's doing...) |
07:17.27 | coz_ | Jucato, ok |
07:18.46 | coz_ | Jucato, interesting kubuntu did not have kwrite installed |
07:19.22 | Jucato | is somewhat not surprised ;) |
07:19.43 | fyanardi | what? Kubuntu doesn't have kwrite installed? :-O |
07:19.48 | coz_ | mm ok now how to force kwrite as default for text files ,,, I am used to gnome |
07:19.50 | Jucato | word wrap: Settings -> Configure Kate (or "Editor" for Kwrite) -> Appearance -> check Dynamic Wordwrap |
07:19.54 | coz_ | fyanardi, no I just installed it |
07:20.17 | Jucato | fyanardi: they prrobably only have kate installed and set as default... maybe... :) |
07:20.48 | Jucato | (gedit does multi-documents too, except it uses tabs, which are more inconvenient when dealing with lots of documents...) |
07:21.08 | fyanardi | Jucato: hmm maybe, I hear that kubuntu likes to alter default KDE settings :) |
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07:21.26 | Jucato | they wouldn't be Kubuntu if they didn't :) |
07:21.37 | fyanardi | :) |
07:21.54 | Jucato | (in fairness, they do have to tweak stuff in order to customize it for *their* target audience) |
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07:22.31 | Jucato | s/in fairness/to be fair/ |
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07:24.38 | fyanardi | I don't mind with that part (tweaking stuff to customize for their target audience :) |
07:25.14 | coz_ | is there a way to change text files being opened with kate to kwrite? |
07:25.19 | coz_ | I am trying :) |
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07:29.16 | fyanardi | coz_: try systemsettings -> Advanced tab -> File associations |
07:29.59 | fyanardi | and search for the file type in the left panel, then change the application preference order |
07:30.44 | coz_ | fyanardi, Ok I will check that out |
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08:47.32 | mschiff | what does it need so that juk (from 4.2.91) can play mp3 files? |
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08:51.08 | Mamarok | mschiff: you need to install codecs I think |
08:51.27 | Mamarok | libxine1-something |
08:51.34 | Mamarok | depends on your distro |
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08:54.16 | mschiff | Mamarok: its all there other apps can play them just fine, I am just building amarok2 to see what it does |
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08:55.00 | Mamarok | mschiff: very alpha btw, and if you had an earlier checkout you will need a new one, there have benn things moved out last night |
08:55.12 | Mamarok | been* even |
08:55.45 | mschiff | Mamarok: ah ok, so I will wait for a new snapshot then thx |
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08:56.48 | elmargol | Is dragon player death? |
08:57.12 | Mamarok | elmargol: not AFAIK |
08:57.35 | Mamarok | you mean dead? |
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08:58.10 | Mamarok | mschiff: oh, you mean, not from SVN? |
08:59.13 | Mamarok | mschiff: there is a new tarball in http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download |
09:00.04 | elmargol | makmanalp: yes dead sorry |
09:00.23 | Mamarok | elmargol: neither :) |
09:01.15 | elmargol | OMG.... I should sleep more :) |
09:02.38 | mschiff | Mamarok: I was trying juk which does not work, now I try amarok 2.0.1 just to see if my kde4 will play mp3 |
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09:33.53 | fatalerrors | is there any vlc backend for phonon? this suould be great... |
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09:35.38 | pinotree | fatalerrors: ask in #videolan |
09:36.16 | fatalerrors | pinotree: ok thanks |
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09:41.36 | pedronveloso | how do I hide the "button on right corner of plasma desktop" ?? |
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10:02.59 | funkyou | hmm, in trunk the background of scrollbars is slightly red (kickoff for example), anyone experiencing that too? |
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10:03.28 | annma | what theme? |
10:03.51 | annma | when I scroll mine gets a blue frame |
10:04.41 | annma | funkyou: what theme? |
10:06.32 | funkyou | annma: oxygen |
10:06.39 | funkyou | i'll do a screenshot now |
10:07.03 | annma | no need |
10:07.05 | annma | let me try |
10:07.22 | annma | I use Air so I'll switch to oxygen |
10:08.21 | funkyou | oh, it happens on both Air and Oxygen plasma themes... (i thought you asked for the widget style) |
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10:08.46 | annma | do you have desktop effects on? |
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10:09.07 | funkyou | no |
10:09.13 | annma | me neither |
10:09.16 | annma | no red here |
10:09.26 | annma | maybe some video glitch |
10:09.46 | funkyou | hm, it happens on the vesa driver in a vm too |
10:10.29 | annma | since when do you have it? |
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10:11.09 | funkyou | since some snapshots, around 4.2.8x or so |
10:11.22 | funkyou | here is a screenie: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2987/scrollbars.png |
10:11.33 | funkyou | now looking if there is a bug already |
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10:13.08 | funkyou | there it is: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=194703 |
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10:13.59 | Rasi| | grr |
10:14.01 | Rasi| | anyone was able to read what i said? |
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10:17.53 | Rasi| | kde trunk is broken with composite... screen does not update |
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10:18.05 | Rasi| | since around beta2 this happened |
10:18.13 | Rasi| | and kconf_update always needs 100% CPU |
10:18.44 | Rasi| | composite does work with xrender btw.. |
10:18.52 | Rasi| | only opengl is totally borked |
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10:39.25 | Plasmoid7 | hi |
10:39.49 | Plasmoid7 | I got problems trying to make a plasmoid |
10:40.12 | Plasmoid7 | plasmapkg -i gmail-plasmoid plasmapkg(5220)/libplasma Plasma::Package::installPackage: No such file: |
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10:40.50 | violin | Do you use Firefox on KDE? |
10:41.11 | Plasmoid7 | ? |
10:41.38 | violin | I mean sometimes you have to use some programs written with GTK+. |
10:41.56 | violin | There are some problems. |
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10:52.05 | dvda | my kde update manager says there are 4 "blocked updates" (all 4 are linux kernel packages) does anyone know how to update em? |
10:52.23 | Peace- | wait |
10:52.26 | Peace- | just wait |
10:52.39 | Peace- | becasue that packages has some problems you have only to wait |
10:52.44 | dvda | ok |
10:52.57 | Peace- | i think you have kubuntu right? |
10:53.01 | dvda | yes |
10:53.11 | pinotree | you should ask in #kubuntu then |
10:53.15 | dvda | ok |
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11:09.39 | zarquod | Moin! |
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11:11.05 | devurandom | Hi! |
11:11.19 | devurandom | Does KDE have some method to list and close windows via console (i.e. dbus)? |
11:11.20 | debfx | hi, could someone please fix the planetkde rss feed? :) |
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11:12.00 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
11:12.12 | devurandom | My issue is that my desktop was spammed by some app running havoc, and now plasma&co are entirely hanging. I would like to close the offending windows and continue working... |
11:12.12 | Peace- | devurandom: it uses qdbus. |
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11:12.41 | devurandom | Peace-: Nice, what's the command to list windows, and how can I close them then? |
11:12.57 | devurandom | (bbl) |
11:13.06 | Peace- | you can use kill .... |
11:13.18 | Peace- | pkill nameapplication |
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11:15.44 | comawhite | kquitapp? |
11:16.47 | comawhite | hagabaka: system settings -> mouse and keyboard |
11:17.17 | hagabaka | ah, i kept looking in Appearance |
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11:28.07 | buntfalke | i made the menu bar of kopete disappear by clicking the wrong button - how do i get it back?! |
11:28.46 | fyanardi | Ctrl-M |
11:28.56 | buntfalke | thanks! |
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11:30.53 | lukas___ | Hi, it seems that I somehow destroyed my KDE on ubuntu 9.04, I see no windo decorations and time to time it freezes, I see no problems in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but .xsession-errors is present could anyone help? |
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11:31.13 | lukas___ | I have no idea where to try anything and what is wrong |
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11:33.58 | freeedrich| | ask your distribution |
11:34.04 | freeedrich| | check if you're out of ram |
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11:35.43 | lukas___ | freeedrich|: definitely not the RAM problem, but I got it now, some additional software changed it, thanks |
11:38.05 | devurandom | Peace-: But kill cannot close windows. :( |
11:38.15 | devurandom | Peace-: And I do not even know which application spawned the windows. |
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11:38.55 | freeedrich| | devurandom: ps aux should tell you |
11:39.11 | freeedrich| | then you can do "kill -9 pid" or "killall -9 appname" |
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11:42.27 | SSJ_GZ | devurandom: xkill can kill windows. Be careful with it, though :) |
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11:42.54 | _r00t- | hello . i have kde 4.2.4 installed .. but by my mistake i closed the taskbar ... how can i open it again ? |
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11:44.05 | annma | _r00t-: what do you call taskbar? |
11:44.13 | devurandom | freeedrich|: But how do I assign window name/contents to a process? |
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12:19.36 | Indian | hello |
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12:19.43 | Indian | need a help |
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12:20.05 | Indian | there is anyone who can give a hand |
12:20.33 | Indian | please |
12:21.09 | annma | just ask your question, provided it's KDE related |
12:21.16 | Indian | OK im redy to explain, i create a new project with Kdevelop kde/C++ |
12:21.29 | annma | kdevelop version? |
12:22.29 | Indian | 3.5 |
12:22.36 | Indian | from the Project menu i select "New Project..." and open the tree structure to select "Simple KDE Application" |
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12:22.54 | annma | yes, OK |
12:23.15 | xxtjaxx | hi annma |
12:23.16 | stikonas | maybe somebody can tell how can KDE notification support be added to non KDE app (i.e. The Battle for Wesnoth) via D-Bus or something similar |
12:23.30 | Indian | the application and has created some template code |
12:23.42 | annma | yes |
12:23.45 | Indian | I run automake and autoconf |
12:23.55 | annma | yes |
12:24.01 | Indian | by selecting "Run automake & friends" |
12:24.21 | Indian | "Run Configure" |
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12:24.38 | Indian | <PROTECTED> |
12:24.50 | annma | yes |
12:24.53 | Indian | "Execute Program", |
12:25.23 | xxtjaxx | which channel was for arts and oxygen desigh people again ? |
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12:25.25 | Sho_ | stikonas: try #kde-devel |
12:25.32 | Sho_ | xxtjaxx: #oxygen |
12:25.36 | Indian | After this all yhe Kdevelop ask me again to run automake & friends |
12:25.56 | Indian | and i coul not execute the program |
12:26.05 | Indian | ???? |
12:26.06 | xxtjaxx | thanks |
12:26.09 | annma | Indian: you need to install it probably |
12:26.23 | _r00t- | annma: the new kicker |
12:26.28 | annma | Indian: did you build a KDE program on your system already |
12:26.31 | Indian | in wichh step |
12:26.37 | Indian | :) |
12:26.45 | annma | _r00t-: right click on desktop -> add panel |
12:27.03 | _r00t- | annma: there's no such option |
12:27.32 | annma | _r00t-: maybe your desktop is locked, distros do that |
12:27.39 | _r00t- | .. |
12:27.45 | annma | I think |
12:27.45 | _r00t- | i'm using gentoo linux |
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12:27.54 | annma | kde version? |
12:27.59 | _r00t- | 4.2.4 |
12:28.17 | annma | when you right click on your desktop, what options do you have? |
12:28.44 | annma | Indian: when you run automake & friends, what does kdevelop say inoutput? |
12:29.11 | _r00t- | appearance settings , folder view settings ..etc.. |
12:29.42 | annma | so you are in folderview as desktop |
12:29.51 | _r00t- | yeah] |
12:30.11 | Indian | it gives this error |
12:30.14 | Indian | configure: error: in `/home/Indian/Programas/C++/CTeste/Hworld/debug': |
12:30.14 | Indian | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
12:30.14 | Indian | See `config.log' for more details. |
12:30.46 | annma | Indian: did you see the log then? |
12:30.57 | Indian | i was doing it |
12:31.09 | Indian | jus a min. |
12:31.10 | annma | _r00t-: I still have an Add panel option on right click on desktop |
12:31.22 | _r00t- | annma: thanks i've found a way to fix it |
12:31.33 | annma | _r00t-: under "Add widgets" |
12:32.06 | _r00t- | annma: just i switched from folder view to desktop activity |
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12:34.48 | Indian | annma |
12:35.15 | Indian | is possible to be doing to im not running as a root |
12:35.42 | Indian | cause Me Indian i think i don't have root priveligies |
12:35.50 | annma | you should never run as root |
12:36.03 | annma | what is your distribution? |
12:36.18 | Indian | F 11 kdevelop 3.5 |
12:36.23 | annma | you are likely to miss some packages to beable to compile |
12:36.37 | annma | F 11, is that Fedora? |
12:36.45 | Indian | Yes |
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12:37.10 | annma | ask in the channel what you need to compile a kde program for kde3 |
12:37.51 | Indian | What do i need to compile a kde program for kde3 |
12:37.53 | Indian | :) |
12:38.06 | Indian | what are the steps |
12:38.11 | freeedrich| | hehe |
12:38.40 | annma | ask in #fedora |
12:38.52 | Indian | they send me to here |
12:39.07 | Indian | lol |
12:39.10 | annma | install all gcc-c++ packages for a start |
12:39.43 | Indian | the problem i think it come s from there |
12:39.58 | annma | from there? |
12:40.10 | Indian | is the /lib/cpp |
12:40.16 | Indian | that is missing |
12:40.32 | Indian | ok thanks |
12:41.17 | Indian | i check and its there |
12:41.28 | Indian | the cpp |
12:41.38 | Indian | in the lib |
12:41.41 | Indian | ??????? |
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12:43.32 | HensonD | indian: here are instructions for building KDE 3 that might help: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Stable_Version#Compiling_Yourself |
12:45.45 | HensonD | could somebody help me verify a bug in KDE 4? |
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12:46.51 | annma | HensonD: tell steps to reproduce |
12:47.21 | HensonD | annma: just a sec, I'll get a description that I've typed up |
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12:48.55 | annma | HensonD: pastebin it maybe |
12:50.46 | Indian | configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check |
12:50.58 | Indian | what's the mining |
12:52.26 | annma | try Google Indian |
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12:56.47 | Indian | I lok for in google and i discover that perhaps i don't heve the c++ compiler instaled |
12:57.22 | Indian | using the yum wht's the sintaxe i shouluse |
12:57.35 | annma | Indian: look what I wrote some minutes ago: <annma> install all gcc-c++ packages for a start |
12:57.57 | tuxick | ") |
12:57.58 | annma | ask in #fedora how to install gcc-c++ |
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12:58.08 | annma | I do not run fedora myself |
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12:58.52 | Indian | ok thanks |
12:58.57 | HensonD | annma: ok, I've finished writing up a description of how to reproduce the bug. It's about 6 steps long. I'll just paste them in here. |
12:59.20 | Jucato | [20:48] <annma> HensonD: pastebin it maybe |
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12:59.55 | HensonD | Jucato: I don't know what pastebin is. I've been out of the IRC scene for a long time. Could you describe it for me? |
13:00.15 | Jucato | go to a site like http://pastebin.com |
13:00.23 | HensonD | jucato: ahh, ok. |
13:00.40 | Jucato | paste your long lines of text there to avoid flooding. click the Paste/Send/Submit button, then give the url it produces in the address line of the browser |
13:02.37 | HensonD | http://pastebin.com/m2d18d18 |
13:04.40 | HensonD | Jucato: that's pretty cool. thanks for the description |
13:04.41 | Jucato | passes the link annma >:) |
13:04.43 | annma | ;) /me looks for big files to copy |
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13:04.43 | Jucato | or probably a big pic to open in konq |
13:04.43 | HensonD | annma: a copy hundred megs works for me |
13:04.44 | Jucato | (it will try to download first) |
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13:05.08 | doitux|mob | hi. is it possible to connect to an akonadi server in the LAN to work with the same std.vcf with differnt kontact akonadi clients like a groupware server? |
13:05.29 | doitux|mob | running kde-4.3 beta2 |
13:05.54 | annma | HensonD: it seems to work OK here butI run KDE 4.3 |
13:06.02 | annma | notifications have been fixed a lot |
13:06.35 | HensonD | checks is KDE version again |
13:06.46 | annma | whatever desktop I am in, I see the notifications in fact |
13:08.21 | HensonD | annma: hmm ok. I'll have to wait until the kde 4.3 stuff trickles in kubuntu then try it again. |
13:08.40 | annma | yes, that wouldbe best |
13:08.52 | Jucato | you'll have to wait for it to be relased first ;) |
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13:09.41 | HensonD | Jucato: well it's in beta form right now, I don't know if the beta build will make it into binary form or if I'll have to wait for 4.3 to come out as non-beta. |
13:09.57 | HensonD | Jucato: you're probably right that I'll have to wait |
13:11.11 | HensonD | annma: could you also check another bug. This is one that was posted to bugs.kde.org a while ago that I can reproduce, but I think the author filed it in the wrong category so I don't think it's even been looked at. I've had this behaviour happen for okular and a few other apps. |
13:11.15 | HensonD | annma: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192333 |
13:13.22 | annma | still present |
13:14.03 | annma | I reproduce |
13:14.29 | HensonD | annma: I'm new to reporting bugs. What should I do next to report this? Just re-file the same bug under okular? I've also noticed it in other applications, so perhaps it's a deeper problem, but I wouldn't know where to put it for it to get noticed. |
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13:14.58 | Jucato | it's not okular's bug. it's a bug with the file dialog if you can reproduce it with other apps |
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13:15.04 | annma | the target is KFileDialog |
13:15.06 | Jucato | annma: can reassign it to the proper place ;) |
13:15.19 | annma | HensonD: what do you expect on Enter? |
13:15.44 | annma | it's assigned to kdelibs already |
13:16.02 | HensonD | annma: for it to enter the directory that has been highlighted in the folder view window. This happens in most other programs and always happened under KDE 3 |
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13:16.25 | annma | most other programs? |
13:16.53 | annma | in short you expect Enter to act as mouse click |
13:17.14 | HensonD | annma: well, I know for sure that it happens in okular. I think it has happened in 1 other program but I can't remember what it was. But all other apps except okular and 1 other work as expected. Other operating systems work as I expect. |
13:17.34 | HensonD | annma: and yes, when a directory is highlighted in the window, I expect Enter to work as a mouse click. |
13:17.43 | annma | HensonD: it happens in ALL file dialogs |
13:17.49 | Jucato | actually |
13:17.50 | annma | as it's a KFileDialog bug |
13:18.00 | annma | HensonD: OK |
13:18.04 | annma | Jucato: yes? |
13:18.11 | Jucato | it happens in Save As only (not Open), and I think it still goes through with the save |
13:18.22 | Jucato | (tried with Konq atm, 4.2.4) |
13:18.40 | HensonD | annma, jucato: so this bug happens with apps other than okular? |
13:18.49 | Jucato | so an Enter action with the folder highlighted 1) goes into the folder (cd) and 2) Saves |
13:19.02 | Jucato | HensonD: as you yourself said above :) |
13:19.13 | Indian | annma |
13:19.18 | Indian | WORKS |
13:19.28 | sxe | hey how.. i updated to kde4.3dev but all tags in dolphin are gone. has someone a clue whats going wrong and how i can get my tags back? thx |
13:19.43 | Indian | the problem was the gcc-c++ |
13:19.53 | Indian | was not installed |
13:19.53 | annma | Indian: yes, I told you :) |
13:19.59 | Indian | lol |
13:20.10 | Indian | thank u |
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13:20.24 | annma | sxe: ask your distro about nepomuk, if they kept the same backend |
13:20.30 | annma | during the upgrade |
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13:20.44 | sxe | ok.. thx |
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13:20.55 | Indian | see u don't wal in the sun without a hat |
13:21.01 | Indian | walk |
13:21.39 | HensonD | Jucato: so is this a bug, or is this intended? |
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13:22.20 | Jucato | HensonD: sounds like a bug. but, again, it's not okular only. |
13:22.35 | Jucato | (since all KDE apps use the same dialogs for open/save(as) |
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13:23.05 | HensonD | jucato: ok. I verified it with gwenview as well. For some reason I thought it was okular only, and for some reason I remember checking other apps. Oh well, as long as it's on the bug list. |
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13:24.23 | sxe | annma: its the same backend.. they have not changed it so far |
13:26.36 | annma | which one? |
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13:29.12 | sxe | annma: Used Soprano Backend=sesame2 |
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13:31.11 | annma | sxe: look in your 'kde4-config --localprefix'/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/ |
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13:31.59 | Eternal_Sin | hi everyone |
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13:33.04 | Eternal_Sin | I have kde 3.5.10, is recommended upgrade my kde version? |
13:33.21 | sxe | annma: i don't understand what you mean |
13:33.45 | annma | sxe: type kde4-config --localprefix in konsole |
13:33.58 | annma | replace this witht he given path in above path |
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13:35.16 | sxe | ah lol .. |
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13:35.23 | sxe | i know what you are doing .. |
13:35.26 | sxe | i'm stupid ^^ |
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13:36.20 | sxe | there is a dir main .. |
13:36.34 | sxe | in that dir there a several files and directorys.. |
13:36.48 | annma | so you mostly have the data |
13:37.49 | sxe | ok nice.. but no tags :P |
13:38.15 | annma | did you ask in your distro channel what happen to other users with the same upgrade? |
13:38.38 | sxe | yes.. but no one seems to use this feature.. :) |
13:38.52 | sxe | so i'm a lonely bug hunter ^^ |
13:39.25 | annma | try adding a tag |
13:39.32 | annma | does it stay? |
13:39.53 | sxe | yes |
13:40.36 | Eternal_Sin | I have kde 3.5.10, is recommended upgrade my kde version? |
13:40.58 | sxe | only if you miss something Eternal_Sin |
13:40.59 | annma | Eternal_Sin: you do as you want, look at kde website to see if KDE4 peases you |
13:41.06 | annma | pleases |
13:41.23 | annma | if you are happy with 3.5, noneed to change |
13:42.03 | Eternal_Sin | I've been using kde 4.2 and 4.1, honestly, kde 4.2 is great, but im in debian lenny and the last time i've tried kde 4.2 from SID repositories was a disaster |
13:42.15 | annma | that's not for us to comment |
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13:42.44 | annma | we release tarballs |
13:43.20 | Eternal_Sin | yes, but deppend of your answers maybe i should upgrade my debian version to SID |
13:43.44 | annma | ask in #debian-kde |
13:43.55 | Eternal_Sin | ok thanks |
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13:48.43 | HensonD | Eternal_Sin: I use debian testing and I've tried several times to make the jump to KDE 4, but to do it on a system that already is running KDE 3 you have a ton of dependencies to worry about. I simply did a re-install with Kubuntu 9.04. |
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13:49.00 | tuxick | wise choice |
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13:49.21 | tuxick | why bother with debiancient when kubuntu is there |
13:49.25 | sxe | i switched on archlinux without problems.. |
13:49.30 | sxe | just to let you know :) |
13:49.46 | annma | except the tags sxe |
13:49.49 | HensonD | tuxick: I should mention that I use debian on all of my non KDE 4 systems :-) |
13:50.06 | sxe | annma: no .. thats a problem from switching from 4.2.4 to 4.3 :) |
13:50.17 | sxe | switching from 3.5 works ^^ |
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13:52.48 | HensonD | tuxick: I even tried compiling KDE 4 myself with my debian system so I wouldn't have to upgrade all of my packages. Those are days of my life that I can never get back. |
13:52.52 | HensonD | tuxick: :-) |
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13:55.08 | BCMM | is it possible to specify how long Konsole needs to see no activity for before it considers a terminal "silent"? |
13:55.27 | HensonD | well I gotta run. annma, Jucato thanks for your help. |
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13:58.48 | JyZyXEL | every time i restart KDE the system tray gets fucked up |
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13:59.17 | JyZyXEL | seriously the kicker is a piece of shit |
13:59.57 | Eternal_Sin | calm down dude xD |
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14:00.31 | JyZyXEL | i need an alternative panel |
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14:03.06 | thiago | JyZyXEL: right, that's why it was dumped in favour of plasma |
14:03.09 | thiago | kicker is gone in KDE 4 |
14:04.22 | JyZyXEL | thank god! |
14:06.40 | Eternal_Sin | kde 4.1.4 has kicker? |
14:06.57 | annma | kicker is gone in kde4 Eternal_Sin |
14:07.15 | Eternal_Sin | good xD |
14:07.37 | JyZyXEL | its prolly gonna take years for 4.2 to be available in debian |
14:07.48 | annma | centuries even |
14:07.53 | thiago | Eternal_Sin: no, KDE 4 has no kicker |
14:07.55 | thiago | 4.1 is 4 |
14:08.04 | thiago | JyZyXEL: make sure you're using at least 4.3 |
14:08.18 | JyZyXEL | ill just get some other panel |
14:08.18 | Eternal_Sin | JyZyXEL, in debian stable yes, in experimental is in 4.2.2 |
14:10.54 | sxe | annma: I noticed that the soprano backend has changed to redland.. is it possible to get my sesam tags to the new backend? |
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14:11.34 | annma | so the backend changed |
14:11.53 | sxe | yes.. but the defsaid to me they don't changed it ^^ |
14:12.02 | sxe | but obv he is wrong |
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14:13.27 | annma | is nepomuk running right now? |
14:13.48 | sxe | yes.. |
14:13.54 | sxe | but i can turn it off |
14:15.05 | annma | I don't remember what happened when I changed |
14:15.31 | sxe | hm .. can i migrate my files automatically? |
14:15.44 | JyZyXEL | you know what |
14:15.51 | JyZyXEL | im upgrading to unstable |
14:16.07 | sxe | i think it should be possible, cause if not all users will ost their tags when the backend gets changed? |
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14:23.26 | annma | sopranocmd might do it but I amnot sure how it works |
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14:49.55 | yonkeltron | is there a preferred way to burn cds with kde4? |
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14:50.55 | boebbel | k3b? |
14:51.21 | yonkeltron | what if i get an error about permissions on cdrecord? |
14:52.10 | floe | yonkeltron: set permissions :P |
14:54.14 | sxe | whats going wrong if i cannot change my sopranos backend to sesame2? openjdk6 is installed. |
14:54.29 | yonkeltron | floe: is there a good way to do that? |
14:54.54 | freeedrich| | sxe: try with sun-jdk |
14:55.09 | floe | yonkeltron: check if the user is in in the appropriate group ("cdrom" - but may depends on distro)... you can use kuser |
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14:55.09 | freeedrich| | and get your JAVE_HOME stuff point to the right locations |
14:55.34 | sxe | freeedrich|: ok thx .. but i read openjdk is the best coiche. |
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14:55.42 | sxe | choice |
14:55.43 | freeedrich| | hmm |
14:55.46 | freeedrich| | no idea |
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14:56.13 | yonkeltron | floe: and if i'm in that group and it still doesn't work. isn't it a bad idea to make cdrecord suid root? |
14:56.49 | loktor | Hi ! Which shortcut do you use to change of desktop ? Thanks. |
14:57.13 | yonkeltron | loktor: are you asking about the desktop background |
14:57.14 | yonkeltron | ? |
14:57.43 | loktor | yonkeltron: No. To switch from Desktop1 to desktop2 for example |
14:57.44 | cb400f | loktor: Ctrl+f1|2|3|4 |
14:57.57 | cb400f | .. by default |
14:58.37 | floe | yonkeltron: It's a security risk, yes. Depends on how and who is using your pc |
14:58.52 | yonkeltron | well it's just me on my laptop |
14:58.58 | yonkeltron | but why the hell should i have to do that? |
14:59.06 | yonkeltron | there used to be some k3bsetup program |
14:59.12 | yonkeltron | i'm remembering all of a sudden |
14:59.19 | loktor | cb400f: Not really convenient. |
14:59.43 | loktor | cb400f: I used ctrl+tab, but it's alreayd used by Firefox or QtCreator |
14:59.44 | yonkeltron | loktor: it's a keyboard shortcut! what could be better? |
14:59.53 | cb400f | loktor: then change it to whatever you find convienent... |
15:00.10 | floe | yonkeltron: So you are in cdrom group and your burning device has group cdrom set? |
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15:00.15 | loktor | cb400f: I was looking for an other idea. |
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15:05.39 | spawn57 | hi, do any of you use digikam? |
15:06.26 | thiago | uses Dolphin to manage his photos |
15:06.32 | spawn57 | oh |
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15:08.00 | ScottG | How do I get gtk themes to work inside kde? |
15:09.00 | Walex | ScottG: they just work for Gtk. You can do the reverse (or rather a simulation of the reverse) with a KDE plugin. |
15:09.09 | thiago | select the GTK theme in the KDE System Settings |
15:09.17 | thiago | Walex: it's not a simulation |
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15:11.37 | ScottG | Walex: Well I have basically the same theme in the settings of both DE, but I am in kde and gnome apps are a little messed up |
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15:11.58 | thiago | GNOME apps are GNOME's problems |
15:11.59 | thiago | we can't help you |
15:13.11 | ScottG | I like the gnome theme I have better, so if there is a way I can just use that universaly that would be good |
15:13.15 | ScottG | eh okkkkkkk |
15:13.52 | ScottG | opps, sorry about the k's. Keyboard problem |
15:13.58 | Walex | ScottG: there is plugin that tries to setup the Gtk theme to look like the current KDE theme, but GNOME app themes are not quite the same as Gtk themes. |
15:14.45 | tuxick | on radioswissjazz.ch i select the m3u, associated to embedded kmplayer_part, but that gives me half a black screen with no controls |
15:14.48 | tuxick | what's wrong? |
15:15.03 | tuxick | it does play sound though |
15:15.51 | thiago | ScottG: you can use Gtk themes in KDE 4 apps |
15:16.04 | thiago | just select the Gtk+ theme in the KDE System Settings |
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15:17.14 | ScottG | I have but it looks different |
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15:18.40 | Dodek | hey, some time ago when I used kde (3.5) I used a keyboard layout switching facility in kcontrol. i'd like to know how this works internally and how can similar behavious (specifically exact layouts) can be achieved without kde itself. any clues? |
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15:19.46 | thiago | Dodek: it's all XKB |
15:20.04 | Walex | Dodek: 'man setxkbmap' and the mysteries of XKB as <thiago> says. |
15:22.22 | ScottG | If I select gtk things get kinda white everywhere |
15:22.33 | ScottG | thiago: ^ |
15:23.46 | thiago | make sure KDE isn't configured to "apply KDE settings to non-KDE applications" (I think that option is in Colours) |
15:23.55 | thiago | and make sure Gtk isn't set to use Qt styles |
15:24.18 | Dodek | and where can i find xkb rules for kde keyboard layouts? |
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15:24.27 | Dodek | the layout i used in kde seems to be missing |
15:24.32 | edneymatias | hi there |
15:25.02 | thiago | Dodek: they're all XKB |
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15:25.05 | thiago | Dodek: KDE has no hand in that |
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15:26.57 | ScottG | thiago: Well I found an "Apply colors to non-KDE applications" and unchecked that. Still having the problem. Where is that setting that you are talking about? |
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15:27.41 | Indian | Hi |
15:27.50 | thiago | ScottG: yes, that was the one |
15:28.36 | Indian | does anyone knoes where can i dowload khelpcenter |
15:29.31 | thiago | it's part of kdebase-rutime |
15:29.33 | thiago | runtime |
15:29.34 | ScottG | thiago: Well then the problem still persists :/ |
15:29.55 | thiago | Indian: khelpcenter is always installed if any KDE application is installed |
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15:30.03 | thiago | ScottG: I don't know then |
15:30.35 | ScottG | thiago: Most things are dark like I want in the theme. But things like buttons and tabs and other things are white and all washed out. |
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15:30.46 | Indian | Yeah but i instal the Kdevelop and did not install the help |
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15:36.55 | sxe | hey annma.. :) |
15:37.03 | sxe | i havea question again |
15:37.21 | sxe | i think my problem with sopranos is, that the sesam backend cannot be loaded.. |
15:37.24 | thiago | she's idle for over an hour |
15:37.30 | sxe | but i have all dependencies installed |
15:37.41 | sxe | hm ok |
15:37.42 | sxe | thx |
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15:41.56 | Indian | Anyone knoes how i can fix this |
15:42.17 | Indian | Where can i get the help files for kdevelop |
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15:42.39 | Indian | ples |
15:42.41 | thiago | kdevelop documentation is alongside kdevelop |
15:42.43 | Indian | help |
15:42.48 | thiago | when you build it from sources, it gets installed |
15:42.59 | Indian | but it did'nt |
15:43.10 | thiago | did you build from sources? |
15:43.16 | Indian | :) |
15:43.37 | Indian | I use the tool ad remove software |
15:44.14 | thiago | then either build from sources, or go ask for help from whoever wrote that tool |
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15:44.52 | Indian | can use the yum for that |
15:45.08 | thiago | ask #fedora |
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17:10.33 | sxe | can someone tell me how to bind a filetyp to a kio in dolphin? |
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17:11.25 | sxe | i want to browse rar files with dolphin without ark |
17:11.29 | sxe | is that possible? |
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17:22.55 | MoDaX | sxe: is there kio_rar? |
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17:23.11 | MoDaX | I don't think so |
17:23.11 | sxe | i installed kio_rar yes.. |
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17:25.41 | MoDaX | sxe: there is should be something about it in kio_rar docs |
17:25.50 | MoDaX | s/is/ |
17:25.54 | MoDaX | <PROTECTED> |
17:25.59 | sxe | :) |
17:26.38 | sxe | there is no possiblity the browser rar archives without kio? cause zip files are browsable |
17:29.00 | MoDaX | sxe: with the help kio_archive.so I guess |
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17:29.04 | MoDaX | help of* |
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17:29.12 | sxe | hm ok .. thx |
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17:31.25 | Pollywog | is anyone else having problems with encrypting files with kgpg in KDE 4.2? |
17:31.51 | Pollywog | I can decrypt but not encrypt and I can encrypt files on CLI |
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17:39.04 | Pollywog | nevermind this kgpg bug appears to have been fixed in newer versions of kgpg |
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17:42.46 | kc8hfi | digikam is not showing the pictures in the album |
17:43.00 | kc8hfi | i've rebuilt the database, still nothing |
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18:12.22 | paolo | hi. is there a screen reader for kde? (like orca for gnome) |
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18:14.20 | Eren | is there a good way to sync your akregator/kmail/basket etc. settings from one pc to another* |
18:14.22 | Eren | ? |
18:14.38 | coz_ | hey guys... I am wondering if the folder view widget can be made to be completely transparent until mouse over? |
18:14.57 | Eren | sometimes, I have to use my laptop to fetch my emails, and sometimes desktop :) when I want to follow a specific thread, it will be spereted and I won't be able to read it correctly |
18:15.03 | Eren | so I want to sync them |
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18:25.01 | ojw | Eren: I saw an article once from someone who put their home directory under source-control |
18:25.19 | Eren | ojw: hm, that's a solution, too |
18:25.22 | ojw | download when you start using a computer, upload when you finish |
18:25.25 | Eren | but I have thousands of mails on my laptop |
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18:25.52 | Eren | uploading and downloading them can be painful :\ |
18:26.16 | Eren | [~/.kde4/share/apps]> du -hs kmail |
18:26.18 | Eren | 1.1G kmail |
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18:28.32 | HalphaZ | hello |
18:29.06 | HalphaZ | is there a method to configure an "active screen edge" to shutdown the screen? |
18:29.23 | HalphaZ | it would be useful on notebooks |
18:30.10 | Eren | ojw: any other ideas? =) |
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18:32.04 | freeedrich| | Eren: you could simply use rsync |
18:32.10 | freeedrich| | and exclude whatever you don't need. |
18:32.19 | freeedrich| | (or stuff, that is computer specific) |
18:32.32 | Eren | hm, I just need akregator and kmail |
18:32.46 | Eren | it sounds reasonable :) |
18:32.54 | freeedrich| | yeah. |
18:33.07 | Eren | searchs for how to use rsync |
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18:33.29 | Eren | hm, then, the only limitation will be the bandwidth the network can carry |
18:33.45 | Eren | I mean, 54Mbitp/s for wireless connections |
18:33.51 | freeedrich| | Eren: rsync -vaxcz --delete local_path/ user@remote:remote_path/ |
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18:34.15 | freeedrich| | (do --dry-run until you figure it out the right way) |
18:34.22 | freeedrich| | Eren: well, only the first time :) |
18:34.38 | Eren | rsync's options are too complex, huh :\ |
18:34.44 | freeedrich| | huh? |
18:34.45 | freeedrich| | no |
18:34.54 | Eren | let me figure out what -vaxcv is |
18:34.59 | Eren | looks for rsync --help :P |
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18:36.21 | freeedrich| | v -> verbose a -> archive x -> one filesystem only c -> check for differences by checksums -> z -> compress |
18:37.02 | Eren | oho, okie |
18:37.10 | Eren | freeedrich|: thank you, I'll try it when I get home |
18:37.25 | freeedrich| | Eren: there might be file you don't want to sync. |
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18:37.44 | Eren | freeedrich|: hmm, such as.. ? |
18:37.46 | freeedrich| | you'll need to "--exclude=" them |
18:38.02 | freeedrich| | I dunno. maybe akregatorrc on one should be different than on the other. |
18:38.12 | Eren | ah, I got it |
18:38.31 | freeedrich| | or you don't want to have the index of your mails being copied all the time. |
18:38.50 | Eren | since I'll only sync kmail and akregator *datas* , I think it won't be a problem |
18:39.14 | Eren | after 1 sync, other subsequent syncs will take short time, I hope :) |
18:39.30 | freeedrich| | you just need to be sure you always sync from/to the right one... |
18:39.47 | freeedrich| | yeah, it checks for differences. |
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18:39.56 | freeedrich| | and even does delta resolving |
18:40.10 | Eren | woaw, it supports delta? |
18:40.28 | freeedrich| | Yeah, rsync is quite powerful. |
18:40.34 | Eren | great =) |
18:41.02 | Eren | thanks freeedrich| |
18:41.11 | freeedrich| | np, you're welcome. |
18:41.56 | freeedrich| | Eren: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rsync |
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18:43.11 | PhrkOnLsh | Is There any way to make nepomuk and strigi only index at certain times? |
18:43.27 | PhrkOnLsh | nepomuk pegs my cpu, and it'd be nice if it only indexed at, say 3am |
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18:43.50 | PhrkOnLsh | I ostly resrt to completely disabling it, but that kind of sucks, as nepomuk is very cool tech |
18:44.15 | kc8hfi | How do you start up the digikam kioslave? |
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18:46.35 | Garp | Question: I switched from kde3 to kde4 (on some account) and want to switch back to kde3. Unfortunately, now kde seems not to work properly on my account, what should I do? Thanks. |
18:47.14 | tuxick | Garp: (re)move your config |
18:47.24 | PhrkOnLsh | Garp: Your KDE3 applicatoins are now trying to use a KDE4 ~/.kde You'll have to mv ~/.kde ~/.kde4_backup |
18:47.31 | PhrkOnLsh | and reconfigure your kde3 applications |
18:47.35 | Garp | tuxick: OK, thanks. |
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18:48.28 | piquadrat | Hi! I'm on Fedora11 and would like to use Kaffeine (Qt4 edition) to play DVB Streams. But I can't find any settings to adjust deinterlacing. Any ideas where I can enable deinterlacing? |
18:48.43 | Garp | I'll try to get my old .kde from backups... |
18:48.50 | Garp | thanks for the suggestion, see ya |
18:49.54 | PhrkOnLsh | anyone know how to control when nepomulk runs? ._. |
18:50.04 | kc8hfi | how do you start the kioslave for digikam? |
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18:54.01 | JyZyXEL | well what a nice thing the new KDE turned out to be |
18:54.11 | JyZyXEL | 10 minutes of using and its already broken |
18:54.50 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: What's broken? |
18:55.04 | JyZyXEL | was testing soundcards inside System Settings |
18:55.10 | JyZyXEL | all of a sudden it crashed and had to xkill it |
18:55.16 | annma_ | how can that break anything |
18:55.18 | JyZyXEL | now i can't access system settings anymore |
18:55.24 | annma_ | distro? |
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18:56.00 | annma_ | sounds like a broken install JyZyXEL |
18:57.43 | JyZyXEL | no sounds like a bug |
18:57.44 | annma_ | really? |
18:57.44 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: actually that sounds like broken install. |
18:57.44 | JyZyXEL | im seriosly hoping you can modify the panel in this version |
18:57.44 | annma_ | especially as you don't state your distro |
18:57.44 | PhrkOnLsh | you can. |
18:57.44 | JyZyXEL | the default panel is absolutely terrible space waster |
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18:57.44 | JyZyXEL | i mean there is nothing compact about this at all |
18:57.45 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: press the cashew and have fun. |
18:57.48 | annma_ | just remove it and make another one as you like it |
18:59.05 | JyZyXEL | i can't find any sort of configuration for the panel |
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18:59.20 | Half-Left | So are all panels that make use of your screen width if you don't fill them up :p |
18:59.23 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: THE CASHEW ON THE PANEL. |
18:59.31 | PhrkOnLsh | capslock, sorry |
18:59.34 | annma_ | PhrkOnLsh: ;) |
18:59.45 | PhrkOnLsh | my laptop doesn't have a little capslock light :( |
18:59.51 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't let you adjust almost anything |
19:00.03 | JyZyXEL | i want the windows 2000 look |
19:00.06 | Half-Left | Use it better |
19:00.06 | JyZyXEL | two rows |
19:00.12 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: What do you want to adjust? width? height? add widgets? |
19:00.21 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: it uses two rows automatically when you have enough windows. |
19:00.27 | PhrkOnLsh | in 4.2.2+ iirc |
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19:06.10 | JyZyXEL | http://i42.tinypic.com/69jla9.jpg |
19:06.17 | JyZyXEL | thats what i want my panel to look like |
19:06.20 | JyZyXEL | super compact |
19:07.48 | ZombieBear | lol? |
19:07.50 | pinotree | right click on an emty place on the taskbar â task bar settings â [x] force rows |
19:08.16 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: Do you want it to be themed like that too? ;) |
19:08.37 | ZombieBear | let's make a windows 2000 plasma theme! |
19:08.39 | JyZyXEL | PhrkOnLsh, well thats not as important |
19:08.39 | ZombieBear | haha |
19:08.56 | JyZyXEL | but its a pretty damn good coloring tbh |
19:09.10 | ZombieBear | it's way plain :/ |
19:09.19 | JyZyXEL | thats the way i want my stuff |
19:09.25 | ZombieBear | then it's perfect |
19:09.26 | ZombieBear | XD |
19:09.28 | JyZyXEL | 100% on usability |
19:09.38 | |linex| | Is it possible to make the K start button wider ? |
19:09.41 | ZombieBear | plain isn't the only way of achieveing usability |
19:09.46 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: install flux than? :) |
19:09.54 | |linex| | Or have a wider Kstart button ? |
19:10.03 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: mine is the furthest thing from plain, and more usable than any other setup i've seen |
19:10.04 | JyZyXEL | pinotree, there is no task bar settings |
19:10.08 | PhrkOnLsh | completely keyboard based :) |
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19:10.32 | pinotree | sure there is, you jave to *right* click on an empty place of the taskbar |
19:10.35 | ZombieBear | colorschemes don't have to be plain to be functional |
19:10.48 | ZombieBear | glaciar is nice and not plain |
19:10.48 | JyZyXEL | Task Manager Settings |
19:10.49 | JyZyXEL | thats what you mean? |
19:10.50 | pinotree | yes |
19:10.52 | ZombieBear | as an example |
19:10.53 | pinotree | yes |
19:10.53 | PhrkOnLsh | KDE's desktop effects rule for usability really. |
19:11.00 | PhrkOnLsh | Coverflow+presentwindows. ;) |
19:11.00 | JyZyXEL | oh ok |
19:11.14 | JyZyXEL | then how bout the icons on system tray? |
19:11.19 | JyZyXEL | and application buttons |
19:11.22 | |linex| | The leap to 4.3 is not as great as the leap to 4.2 |
19:11.23 | pinotree | ? |
19:11.25 | JyZyXEL | i need those to two rows too |
19:11.31 | ZombieBear | wow |
19:11.41 | JyZyXEL | and smaller icons |
19:11.45 | ZombieBear | i'm surprised at how comfortable the "Peace" color scheme is on my eyes |
19:11.55 | pinotree | you cannot have smaller icons, given the size for the is 22px |
19:11.56 | ZombieBear | i thought i'd hate it i just wanted to test |
19:12.13 | JyZyXEL | 16px icons |
19:12.17 | pinotree | system tray will arrange the items in more than one row if the height is enough |
19:12.29 | ZombieBear | awesome |
19:12.31 | JyZyXEL | ok good |
19:12.34 | ZombieBear | i had no idea about that one |
19:12.43 | JyZyXEL | so whats the height? |
19:13.08 | pinotree | ? |
19:13.16 | JyZyXEL | thought so you have to have a ridiculously big panel for that to happen |
19:13.20 | JyZyXEL | cause the icons are way too big |
19:13.31 | dario | hi, i'm having problems trying to build the sesame2 backend for soprano from trunk. I set JAVA_HOME but cmake can't find jni and says to set JAVA_HOME |
19:13.34 | pinotree | 22pix is not big |
19:13.42 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: take it up with opendesktop if they are too big ;) |
19:13.43 | JyZyXEL | yes it is |
19:13.49 | JyZyXEL | i want 16px |
19:13.54 | pinotree | you can_not_ |
19:13.58 | JyZyXEL | why not |
19:14.05 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: it's six f... six pixels, man. |
19:14.28 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: because to do that you'd have to compile every single app with systray support that you used ;) |
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19:14.47 | hiemanshu | I want to know where the KDE Quick Launcher plasmoid files are stored |
19:14.54 | JyZyXEL | what the heck are you talking about |
19:14.55 | hiemanshu | I mean Application Launcher |
19:15.02 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: the icons are hardcoded. |
19:15.20 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: you can't, from a user standpoint, change those icon sizes. |
19:15.33 | paolo | hi. is there a screen reader for kde? (like orca for gnome) |
19:15.36 | PhrkOnLsh | It's just not built that way. |
19:15.42 | JyZyXEL | ever heard of resizing? |
19:15.52 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: see above statement. |
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19:17.00 | hiemanshu | I want to know where the KDE Application Launcher plasmoid files are stored |
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19:17.27 | JyZyXEL | and why is the font so big on the clock |
19:17.28 | pinotree | what are you looking for, in particular? |
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19:17.34 | JyZyXEL | how do i change the whole theme?? |
19:17.39 | JyZyXEL | this default theme is horrible |
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19:17.59 | annma_ | everything was done to be ugly JyZyXEL |
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19:18.01 | Mannequin1 | hi. Sometimes KDE (I think I've KDE 4.2, on Kubuntu Intrepid) crashes, and it seems to be related to Firefox |
19:18.12 | Half-Left | How about just chilling out and stop complaining |
19:18.13 | Mannequin1 | (not able to reproduce it yet, it seems to happen randomly) |
19:18.14 | JyZyXEL | annma_, no everything was done to look good |
19:18.17 | annma_ | we like to displease users |
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19:18.26 | JyZyXEL | they didnt give a shit about usability |
19:18.32 | Mannequin1 | so, any know issues between Firefox 3 and KDE 4? |
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19:18.41 | hiemanshu | pinotree, i want the image of the application launcher |
19:18.44 | hiemanshu | kde 4.2.3 |
19:18.46 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: wtf are you talking about? define usabilty? I have a feeling that is a very contentious debate. |
19:18.46 | annma_ | we didn't, surely not, JyZyXEL |
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19:19.06 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: I find the default theme very usable. You do not. Who is right? |
19:19.13 | pinotree | hiemanshu: you mean the kde logo? |
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19:19.21 | PhrkOnLsh | You surely? Find a different theme. |
19:19.24 | hiemanshu | Fedora in my case |
19:19.36 | PhrkOnLsh | Mannequin1: no, except that it uses the GNOME theme by default. |
19:19.42 | PhrkOnLsh | since it's a gtk app |
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19:19.55 | JyZyXEL | i can't find where to change themes |
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19:20.08 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: systemsettings->appearance |
19:20.10 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
19:20.11 | PhrkOnLsh | or rather, no |
19:20.12 | pinotree | hiemanshu: that's a fedora customization, so i guess you should ask in #fedora-kde what was done in particular (replace the icon, or patch the code, etc) |
19:20.16 | Rapp | anyone here using KDE 4.3 beta? |
19:20.22 | PhrkOnLsh | right click the desktop, appearence settings, JyZyXEL |
19:20.33 | hiemanshu | pinotree, whats the default location in KDE |
19:20.35 | Rapp | i have one annoying problem: the mailfolder view in kmail shrinks in width every time i log in. |
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19:20.45 | Rapp | it is getting smaller and smaller, and it is not resizable |
19:21.02 | pinotree | hiemanshu: â |
19:21.23 | JyZyXEL | nothing changes the look of the panel |
19:21.39 | hiemanshu | pinotree, no one answering there, so i ask what is the default location of the file so that i can look there |
19:21.46 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: yes, it does. I know it does. |
19:21.49 | PhrkOnLsh | I just did it ;) |
19:21.51 | JyZyXEL | mhmm |
19:22.08 | JyZyXEL | oh its called "Desktop theme" |
19:22.13 | PhrkOnLsh | mhmm |
19:22.28 | JyZyXEL | man these default ones are really bad |
19:22.33 | PhrkOnLsh | e_e |
19:22.37 | annma_ | ;) |
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19:22.43 | annma_ | make a good one |
19:22.44 | hiemanshu | meh |
19:22.57 | pinotree | hiemanshu: as i said, we don't know which kind of modification fedora did to the kmenu, so you should know that before asking "default location of file" (which?) |
19:23.06 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: kde has an art mailing list, I'm sure they could use some help |
19:23.10 | JyZyXEL | the k menu is so laggy |
19:23.16 | PhrkOnLsh | best solution to problems with Free software: contribute! |
19:23.31 | JyZyXEL | how do you make the kmenu to look the good old way |
19:23.33 | hiemanshu | pinotree, wasnt it named Kicker in 3.5? |
19:23.33 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: right click the menu, go to menu settings, change to classic. |
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19:23.37 | JyZyXEL | nice |
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19:24.00 | pinotree | hiemanshu: yes |
19:24.02 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: what exactly is it that you don't like? be specific |
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19:24.15 | annma_ | who would have thought people loved so much this classic menu, it's amazing |
19:24.22 | hiemanshu | pinotree, thats where i went wrong, i might find it now |
19:24.26 | JyZyXEL | wasting space with big items |
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19:24.52 | NSaibot | where? kmenu, desktop, ...? |
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19:25.16 | PhrkOnLsh | all of it ;) |
19:25.19 | JyZyXEL | in the panel and in the kmenu yea |
19:25.27 | ZombieBear | btw |
19:25.37 | ZombieBear | the Redmond theme is the win2k color scheme iirc |
19:25.50 | JyZyXEL | and what about the Alt + F2 |
19:25.58 | JyZyXEL | whats it called |
19:26.02 | NSaibot | krunner |
19:26.04 | PhrkOnLsh | krunner |
19:26.06 | PhrkOnLsh | krunner <3 |
19:26.08 | JyZyXEL | its so laggy |
19:26.15 | NSaibot | your system sucks then :P |
19:26.16 | JyZyXEL | i start typing something and it starts drawin the icons |
19:26.18 | ZombieBear | krunner == awesome |
19:26.19 | hiemanshu | pinotree, where is kmenu installed? I cannot find anything by find / -iname kmeny |
19:26.19 | PhrkOnLsh | krunner is awesome. |
19:26.20 | NSaibot | as it is instant on mine |
19:26.23 | JyZyXEL | like omg its so laggy |
19:26.23 | hiemanshu | kmenu* |
19:26.26 | JyZyXEL | its just horrible |
19:26.27 | ZombieBear | 4.3's krunner is a list |
19:26.34 | ZombieBear | and iirc will be much faster in rendering |
19:26.38 | pinotree | hiemanshu: which kde version do you have? |
19:26.40 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: You should try fluxbox if all you want is speed and nothing else. |
19:26.45 | hiemanshu | kde 4.2.3 |
19:27.06 | JyZyXEL | i don't wanna spend weeks configuring fluxbox |
19:27.16 | annma_ | gnome maybe |
19:27.23 | PhrkOnLsh | ZombieBear: Icons are an optin though right? I like my icons |
19:27.27 | PhrkOnLsh | or Sugar ;D |
19:27.28 | pinotree | and you are spending weeks complaining about everything you see in kde? |
19:27.31 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: you mean the startup or the actual presenting of the matches in the list? |
19:27.35 | ZombieBear | i'm not sure, i sure hope so |
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19:27.40 | ZombieBear | it's got icons on the list |
19:27.42 | ZombieBear | on the left side |
19:27.45 | JyZyXEL | NSaibot, presenting matches |
19:27.47 | annma_ | sugar! yes! |
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19:27.56 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: ahh, mkey :) |
19:28.23 | ZombieBear | http://www.kdeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/r949375-krunner.jpg |
19:28.23 | JyZyXEL | ill go search for themes |
19:28.25 | hiemanshu | Where can i change the default theme, i dont like Oxygen very much and cant find anything to replace it |
19:28.29 | pinotree | hiemanshu: then it is like i said in the first place, please ask in #fedora-kde a) where they install that widget (most probably in the system location, ask which is in fedora) b) which local change they do to the kmenu appearance to replace its logo with the fedora |
19:28.31 | ZombieBear | jyzyxel |
19:28.34 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: depends of course on the runners you activated there |
19:28.35 | ZombieBear | if you're looking for plain |
19:28.37 | pinotree | .... logo |
19:28.38 | ZombieBear | look at barenaked |
19:29.00 | JyZyXEL | is kde-look the place to look |
19:29.09 | NSaibot | hiemanshu: do you guys even try and look for the usual places before asking? |
19:29.31 | ZombieBear | oh WOW |
19:29.37 | ZombieBear | carbon looks SHARP now! |
19:29.43 | pinotree | hiemanshu: right click on the desktop â desktop settings â theme |
19:29.48 | hiemanshu | NSaibot, i know where to look, i have changed all kde setting but cant find how to replace the Desktop theme, that is Oxygen right now |
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19:30.34 | ZombieBear | i'm switching my plasm theme to carbon till i switch to 4.3 |
19:30.40 | ZombieBear | i can't wait to use Air |
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19:31.01 | hiemanshu | pinotree, i wanna change the style, menu > system > system setting> apperance |
19:31.12 | hiemanshu | there is Oxygen, i wanna change that one |
19:31.22 | sxe | i use glassified.. its so great |
19:31.25 | pinotree | choose another one? |
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19:31.57 | hiemanshu | sxe, me too |
19:32.08 | hiemanshu | pinotree, i dont like the default ones |
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19:32.28 | JyZyXEL | why is the clock so big on every theme? |
19:32.38 | JyZyXEL | its like 30px font or something |
19:32.53 | pinotree | hiemanshu: ok, we got that; now, you know where to change it, so just change style |
19:32.55 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: screenshot |
19:32.57 | makmanalp | JyZyXEL: you can resize plasmoids |
19:33.20 | hiemanshu | pinotree, cant i add new ones? |
19:33.31 | PhrkOnLsh | JyZyXEL: again, right click the clock, go to setting, change the font. |
19:33.52 | JyZyXEL | you can only change font |
19:33.53 | JyZyXEL | not size |
19:34.21 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: well, there several clocks, which one? |
19:34.22 | pinotree | hiemanshu: styles for applications are binary plugins, so you need to get them and compile them, or install them via the package manager of your distro |
19:34.33 | JyZyXEL | Digital Clock |
19:34.35 | JyZyXEL | default |
19:34.53 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: in the control panel? |
19:35.05 | NSaibot | there's no default, depends on your distribution |
19:35.21 | NSaibot | ah, wait, there is :) |
19:35.40 | NSaibot | and yes, you can't change the size :P |
19:35.54 | NSaibot | i have the date shown, so it's quite alright |
19:35.56 | TheRealPsychomax | Hi there. Why is Dolphin not doing *word* wrap? |
19:36.35 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: either that, or resize the control panel |
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19:36.44 | hiemanshu | pinheiro, what is QtCurve? |
19:37.32 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: you mean the filename? |
19:37.37 | TheRealPsychomax | Yep. |
19:37.45 | NSaibot | it doesn't? |
19:37.54 | PhrkOnLsh | hiemanshu: a theme designed to allows gtk kde3 and kde4 apps to look the same |
19:37.59 | TheRealPsychomax | No. It breaks iin the middle of words. |
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19:38.19 | hiemanshu | PhrkOnLsh, how do i install it? |
19:38.30 | pinheiro | hiemanshu: aqt style |
19:38.31 | PhrkOnLsh | hiemanshu: distro? |
19:38.31 | ZombieBear | usually your distro will have a package for it |
19:38.42 | amigrave | how can I programatically (script, ruby/python binding or dbus) change the keyboard repeat rate and delay in kde4 ? |
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19:39.04 | hiemanshu | PhrkOnLsh, Fedora |
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19:39.45 | underscores | hiemanshu: yum search packagename_here |
19:40.05 | underscores | hiemanshu: look if there is the package you are searching for :) |
19:40.09 | PhrkOnLsh | [rrix@TheSwan bin]$ yum search qtcurve |
19:40.15 | PhrkOnLsh | hm no matches :o |
19:40.21 | hiemanshu | no matched |
19:40.30 | PhrkOnLsh | hiemanshu: go bug someone in #fedora, there should be a package for it |
19:40.32 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: yeah, don't know why :) |
19:41.06 | TheRealPsychomax | Well, how can this be reported to the KDE developers? |
19:41.17 | NSaibot | bugs.kde.org |
19:41.21 | JyZyXEL | what the hell |
19:41.21 | TheRealPsychomax | I see |
19:41.31 | underscores | PhrkOnLsh: what is qtcurve? |
19:41.35 | JyZyXEL | has the ability to use backgrounds in konqueror been removed? |
19:41.46 | ZombieBear | huiemanshu |
19:41.56 | ZombieBear | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/QtCurve+KDE3+&+Gtk2+for+Fedora+AMD64!?content=66557 |
19:42.00 | ZombieBear | old package |
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19:42.09 | ZombieBear | for gtk and qt3 |
19:42.14 | PhrkOnLsh | underscores: theme for gtk kde3 kde4 that allows all apps to have same styled widgets |
19:42.29 | TheRealPsychomax | In my opinion, KDE 4 is still lacking behind the other dekstops. Even Windows XP is more mature. |
19:42.36 | underscores | PhrkOnLsh: you mean like bluecurve? |
19:42.44 | underscores | or quaticurve? |
19:42.47 | PhrkOnLsh | idk, never used bluecrurve |
19:42.53 | underscores | quarticurve* |
19:42.54 | PhrkOnLsh | TheRealPsychomax: in what aspects? |
19:43.04 | TheRealPsychomax | Which is sad because KDE, as a GPL project, could outpeform the others. |
19:43.04 | JyZyXEL | has the ability to use backgrounds in konqueror been removed? |
19:43.06 | PhrkOnLsh | and, yeah, winXP is more mature :) |
19:43.13 | underscores | qt4-theme-quarticurve.i586 : Unofficial port of the Bluecurve widget theme to Qt 4 <--this one? |
19:43.26 | PhrkOnLsh | worth a shot? |
19:43.30 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: can't use XP on my old box with all the bling, though ;) |
19:43.33 | Half-Left | TheRealPsychomax: Erm well it's about 8 years out XP is, so yeah, dug. |
19:43.39 | underscores | PhrkOnLsh: dunno, I'm not looking for it :D |
19:43.51 | underscores | hiemanshu: hey, try the one I posted :D |
19:44.01 | hiemanshu | yup checking |
19:44.06 | underscores | hiemanshu: search for curve, and then look at it |
19:44.07 | PhrkOnLsh | TheRealPsychomax: KDE is definitely more usable than XP fimo. It has better applications and integration |
19:44.14 | freinhard | TheRealPsychomax: wait another 7 years and we'll see where kde4 stands. |
19:44.16 | underscores | hiemanshu: there are 2 very similiar packages alhtough |
19:44.17 | Half-Left | duh! |
19:44.20 | PhrkOnLsh | sure, there are some rough edges, but it already greatly outperforms XP and Vista. |
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19:44.31 | TheRealPsychomax | Even a new shot like Dolphin looks more like a Windows 3.x program than a modern file manager. |
19:44.51 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: now that's bs |
19:45.02 | underscores | and not true |
19:45.02 | PhrkOnLsh | agreed, NSaibot |
19:45.12 | TheRealPsychomax | No, serious. |
19:45.16 | hiemanshu | I wanna install this and it needs QtCurve http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/darkPearl+for+QtCurve?content=97644 |
19:45.26 | freinhard | TheRealPsychomax: <°))))>< there you go |
19:45.39 | dario | hi, i'm having problems trying to build the sesame2 backend for soprano from trunk. I set JAVA_HOME but cmake can't find jni and says to set JAVA_HOME |
19:45.40 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: i agree that it lacks some functionality, but windows 3.x .. c'mon |
19:45.52 | TheRealPsychomax | I think MacOS is a role model. |
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19:45.59 | PhrkOnLsh | coughs |
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19:46.10 | PhrkOnLsh | MacOS is nothing but shiny and chrome. |
19:46.11 | TheRealPsychomax | It is modern looking, usable and has solid (UNIX) foundation. |
19:46.24 | underscores | sounds like linux to me :D |
19:46.29 | TheRealPsychomax | Mac users are happy. Can you tell me why? |
19:46.34 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: as you might know MacOS X was unusable until what 10.4? i dunno |
19:46.37 | PhrkOnLsh | because they are fanboys ;) |
19:46.40 | hiemanshu | underscores, nope |
19:46.40 | freeedrich| | Drugs. |
19:46.56 | underscores | hiemanshu: I dunno if that package was what you are searching for ._. |
19:46.57 | PhrkOnLsh | NSaibot: It only took them ten version's. not bad. |
19:47.05 | underscores | hiemanshu: you should ask in #fedora about that problem |
19:47.09 | TheRealPsychomax | No, they find it very easy to operate. |
19:47.41 | ZombieBear | because they paid so much for their pc that they'd feel stupid if they didn't show themselves as being so? |
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19:47.53 | underscores | yeah although Apple creates programes after the HIG :) |
19:48.05 | annma_ | ZombieBear: lol |
19:48.10 | underscores | but thats not realy the place to disguss that :D |
19:48.19 | underscores | ZombieBear: lol :D |
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19:48.33 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: i can't run MacOS X on my old box as well :/ |
19:48.38 | TheRealPsychomax | No, we should talk about improving KDE |
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19:48.49 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: that's what we do :) |
19:48.50 | PhrkOnLsh | TheRealPsychomax: then, go for it :) |
19:48.57 | underscores | and why should that be related to MacOS? |
19:49.01 | PhrkOnLsh | but saying "Be MacOSX" is kinda vague |
19:49.08 | Half-Left | Only if you know what you're talking about |
19:49.23 | TheRealPsychomax | I do not have the time to brush up my C++ and learn KDE hacking. That's the problem. |
19:49.47 | PhrkOnLsh | TheRealPsychomax: there's room for suggestions, if you're specific |
19:49.55 | NSaibot | i think the foundations (pillars) of KDE are capable to do more than what you have on Mac ... it just needs some time and *more devs* |
19:49.55 | PhrkOnLsh | you don't need to be a hacker. |
19:50.03 | TheRealPsychomax | ok. |
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19:50.52 | NSaibot | TheRealPsychomax: try to talk with the guys on #kde-usability if have some suggestions |
19:51.00 | TheRealPsychomax | ok. |
19:51.10 | NSaibot | you'll have to provide some mockups though ;) |
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19:51.43 | TheRealPsychomax | Well, I think that X.org as the underlying system needs to improve, too. |
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19:51.51 | NSaibot | sure |
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19:52.34 | Half-Left | TheRealPsychomax: Yes, you can thank it for some nasty KDE4 bugs |
19:52.48 | NSaibot | if that thing becomes faster i'll not need to buy a new pc for the next 10 years ;) |
19:53.31 | TheRealPsychomax | I think accelated and latency-free 2D rendering is key. |
19:53.43 | NSaibot | i'll need a sharp knife though to make a dual/quad core out of my single p4 core :) |
19:53.55 | hiemanshu | how do i compile source of QtCurve, it uses cmake |
19:54.11 | NSaibot | you need cmake :P |
19:54.26 | hiemanshu | i have cmake |
19:54.29 | annma_ | and there should be a file with instructions on how to build it |
19:54.32 | hiemanshu | how do i compile it? |
19:55.15 | annma_ | make a build dir, for ex under the root source |
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19:56.09 | hiemanshu | annma_, found a README to help, thanks |
19:56.15 | annma_ | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/where/KDE/is/installed .. |
19:56.20 | annma_ | ah OK grat |
19:56.22 | annma_ | grat |
19:56.25 | annma_ | great |
19:57.25 | hiemanshu | annma_, where is KDE install on Fedora? |
19:57.33 | annma_ | no idea |
19:57.37 | annma_ | in konsole, type |
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19:57.45 | annma_ | kde4-config --prefix |
19:57.55 | annma_ | the result is the path to KDE is installed |
19:58.07 | hiemanshu | <PROTECTED> |
19:58.12 | annma_ | that's it |
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19:58.44 | NSaibot | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` |
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19:59.18 | annma_ | cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix` .. |
19:59.29 | annma_ | if you have a build dir inside root dir |
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20:00.00 | annma_ | root source dir of the app you build |
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20:02.45 | hiemanshu | i get this error : http://fpaste.org/paste/15985 |
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20:07.29 | NSaibot | installing themes should be more user friendly methinks |
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20:08.06 | JyZyXEL | can you alter the widget size? |
20:08.18 | NSaibot | plasmoid? yes |
20:08.27 | JyZyXEL | whats a plasmoid |
20:08.45 | hiemanshu | JyZyXEL, heard of google.com? |
20:09.13 | JyZyXEL | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasmoid |
20:09.16 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: widgets == plasmoids ;) |
20:09.24 | genewbie | how can i set my numlock to automatically start everytime i boot into my system in KDE4.2 |
20:09.29 | NSaibot | as they run on plasma :) |
20:09.31 | JyZyXEL | how do you then alter the size? |
20:09.41 | JyZyXEL | i was only able to alter their place |
20:09.44 | NSaibot | unlock the widgets and use the resize button |
20:09.50 | hiemanshu | JyZyXEL, using scissors and tape |
20:10.16 | NSaibot | the toolbar which appears on the side ... there's a resize button |
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20:10.46 | NSaibot | you should watch some youtube videos about plasma/kde/plasmoids ;) |
20:11.08 | genewbie | nevermind, i found it. |
20:11.42 | JyZyXEL | i can't find it |
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20:12.05 | JyZyXEL | you first press the bean? |
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20:12.44 | NSaibot | no |
20:13.00 | JyZyXEL | well then i have no idea |
20:13.06 | NSaibot | mouse over the plasmoid and see the toolbar appear on the left/right side of the widget |
20:13.15 | JyZyXEL | no? |
20:13.18 | JyZyXEL | theres no toolbar |
20:14.03 | NSaibot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ep5auJA0z28 |
20:14.38 | JyZyXEL | so? |
20:14.43 | JyZyXEL | why is there no toolbar |
20:14.54 | NSaibot | did you unlock the widgets? |
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20:15.00 | JyZyXEL | no? |
20:15.02 | JyZyXEL | how do you do that |
20:15.10 | NSaibot | right click on the desktop and unlock them |
20:15.16 | NSaibot | CTRL + L should work as well |
20:15.35 | JyZyXEL | but theres only "Lock widgets" |
20:15.40 | NSaibot | hmmm |
20:15.53 | NSaibot | then you're screwed :P |
20:16.04 | NSaibot | which widget? |
20:16.09 | JyZyXEL | the digital clock |
20:16.15 | NSaibot | in the control panel? |
20:16.20 | JyZyXEL | no |
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20:16.25 | NSaibot | stand alone? |
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20:16.30 | JyZyXEL | no in the panel ofc |
20:17.08 | NSaibot | if it's in a panel you'll have to resize the panel, as the widgets have to obey the size of the containment afaik |
20:17.29 | JyZyXEL | are you fucking kidding me |
20:17.53 | NSaibot | hm? |
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20:19.00 | JyZyXEL | the System Monitors are way too huge |
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20:19.57 | NSaibot | resize the panel |
20:19.59 | JyZyXEL | they are 60 pixels wide |
20:20.03 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't matter |
20:20.08 | JyZyXEL | their still 60 pixels wide |
20:20.10 | NSaibot | can i have a screenshot please |
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20:20.27 | Half-Left | Why bother? |
20:20.39 | NSaibot | just trying to help |
20:21.12 | NSaibot | he might turn out to be a god damn usability god |
20:21.27 | erik-k | I must say, going from qt-4.4 to 4.5 has made a massive difference in usability via speed |
20:21.49 | JyZyXEL | http://i41.tinypic.com/2hx3cc2.jpg |
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20:22.28 | Half-Left | Helping someone who swears at just about every thing wrong with KDE4's new thing is not my idea of supporting someone. |
20:22.30 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: well, yeah ... i think you can't do much about that :) ... |
20:23.18 | NSaibot | Half-Left: whatever ... i'm extraordinary calm today ... just enjoing the condition :) |
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20:23.51 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: you can double the amount of virtual desktops as a workaround |
20:24.11 | Half-Left | NSaibot: Good luck |
20:24.17 | NSaibot | hehe |
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20:24.34 | JyZyXEL | another thing is that on the new konqueror displaying 10 files took 200 pixels in height when in the old one it only took 170 pixels |
20:24.44 | JyZyXEL | so what the hell kind of improvement is that shit |
20:24.45 | NSaibot | it's a new experience for me ... as i'm usually a freakin psycho ... ask my wife ;) |
20:25.10 | NSaibot | what do you mean? |
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20:25.30 | neeku | hi |
20:25.44 | neeku | i made a mess with color settings in kwrite. how can i reset it to defaults? |
20:25.48 | JyZyXEL | and in gnome-commander you can display 10 files in under 150px |
20:25.49 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: and set the row count = 2 |
20:26.05 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: i don't give a sh*t what gnome does ... usually ;) |
20:27.04 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: gnome tries hard to catch up with kde 4 ... so good luck with the stuff they use (c? vala? mono?) |
20:27.17 | JyZyXEL | well gnome-panel is actually pretty nice you know |
20:27.24 | Half-Left | lol |
20:27.25 | JyZyXEL | you can optimize it pretty well |
20:27.34 | JyZyXEL | that about only thing they got right lol |
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20:27.55 | erik-k | JyZyXEL: Settings -> configure konqueror -> file management -> views -> icons -> grid spacing to none |
20:27.57 | Half-Left | Apart from guessing dropping the icon game |
20:27.58 | NSaibot | JyZyXEL: to be honest, the gnome panel is ugly as hell |
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20:28.39 | scummos | hi, can i use powerdevil under another desktop environment than kde? |
20:28.46 | erik-k | wishes that building koffice 2 in the background wasn't making his machine irritatingly slow but big compiles always do that :/ |
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20:29.06 | NSaibot | erik-k: distcc ftw :P |
20:29.11 | yonkeltron | erik-k: get a compile cluster! |
20:29.13 | scummos | or, better -- where are the scripts powerdevils uses to hibernate my computer? :) |
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20:29.36 | JyZyXEL | erik-k, do you also know how to set the background image for file management? |
20:29.36 | erik-k | NSaibot: Last time I tried it I got nothing but a mess of errors. |
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20:30.26 | NSaibot | erik-k: you might want to join me with "use a sharp knife to make several cpu cores out of one" |
20:30.37 | JyZyXEL | erik-k, also there is no grid spacing in details view |
20:30.40 | JyZyXEL | they forgot to put it in |
20:31.17 | JyZyXEL | also the icon size sliders only go to 16px |
20:31.58 | NSaibot | 16px is to big? |
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20:32.18 | NSaibot | 640x480? |
20:32.19 | JyZyXEL | well some people like to use 12px or 14px |
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20:33.10 | JyZyXEL | also i think the padding between rows is 2 px |
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20:33.28 | JyZyXEL | or even more |
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20:33.55 | JyZyXEL | its not optimized enough |
20:34.02 | JyZyXEL | and its not letting user to optimize it themselves |
20:34.06 | erik-k | You're annoyed over 1/50 of an inch of space between rows? Dude. |
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20:34.09 | NSaibot | agreed, not a showstopper for me though |
20:34.44 | JyZyXEL | erik-k, i wanna be able to see as many files as possible |
20:35.21 | NSaibot | you simply can't please every ass on the planet you know |
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20:35.51 | JyZyXEL | well in this cause you could have just added it in the configuration |
20:35.53 | JyZyXEL | but no |
20:36.04 | erik-k | A larger monitor will so a much better job than trying to shrink the UI |
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20:36.28 | JyZyXEL | yea well if the UI is shrinken on large monitor it does even better |
20:36.41 | NSaibot | gtg, bye |
20:36.51 | JyZyXEL | now where is the background setting |
20:36.55 | JyZyXEL | for file browsing |
20:36.58 | JyZyXEL | i can't find it anywhere |
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20:38.32 | secleinteer | hi, i got a message saying that the internal pc speaker could be disabled, and i did so. this made my hdmi audio device 1 in alsa (the mobo audio is device 0). but then somehow the pc speaker got reenabled and now it's device 1, and hdmi audio is device 2, and i've thus lost hdmi audio. is there some way to re-disable the pc speaker, so i can get hdmi audio back? |
20:38.49 | secleinteer | i.e., i want to know how to manually access that disable message |
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20:48.24 | DexterF | how can one update the kde3 menu after installing packages? |
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20:56.08 | PhrkOnLsh | has anyone had any trouble getting kmail to connect to gmail imap? |
20:56.11 | PhrkOnLsh | i get failed ssl |
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21:05.42 | Lars_G | is there any way I can reorganize the windows of a group and only those? for exampel tile all windows in a group in the taskbar |
21:05.50 | Lars_G | I'm using 4.3beta |
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21:07.09 | PhrkOnLsh | hi Lars :) |
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21:08.20 | Lars_G | Hey PhrkOnLsh what ya doing here? |
21:08.30 | PhrkOnLsh | Running KDE ;) |
21:08.30 | Lars_G | I went around hackndev and marex almost beat me |
21:08.46 | PhrkOnLsh | Yeah, he'll do that. Why do you think I'm not in there anymore. |
21:08.57 | PhrkOnLsh | Have you used kmail to connet to gmail? |
21:09.06 | Lars_G | No, not yet |
21:09.12 | PhrkOnLsh | hmm |
21:09.15 | PhrkOnLsh | I'm getting ssl errors ;( |
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21:11.26 | PhrkOnLsh | :/ I"m just having internet problems, I think. |
21:11.35 | PhrkOnLsh | None of my ssl connections are working :/ |
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21:33.31 | admiral0 | hi. i was trying to compile kio_mtp from playground |
21:33.54 | admiral0 | there is no cmakelists.txt nor any configure script |
21:33.59 | admiral0 | how do i build it |
21:34.00 | admiral0 | ? |
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21:43.23 | admiral0 | anybody... it's just 4 files... |
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21:50.29 | PhrkOnLsh | what are the files? |
21:50.35 | PhrkOnLsh | maybe just gcc *.c |
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22:53.57 | dros | good evening! I am having this strange problem: I only get sound from rear speakers when I use amarok. With other apps, the front speakers work. Any clues? (kubuntu - kde 4.2.2) |
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22:54.48 | bla | Hi. |
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22:55.23 | bla | How can I disable automatic hibernation in kde (kubuntu)? We see no powermanagement options in systemsettings; Kde won't start as it hibernates computer right after start (some acpi problem) |
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22:59.43 | ritek | does anybody know the differences or advantages of programming using KDE libraries or by using Qt ones? |
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23:00.44 | ritek | I know that KDE is based on Qt or something like that, but what are the advantages/differences of using either kde or qt? |
23:00.49 | Mamarok | ritek: that would be a question for the -devel channel I think |
23:01.02 | ritek | #kde-devel? |
23:01.11 | Mamarok | yes |
23:01.57 | Mamarok | ritek: but don't expect much reaction now, it's still sunday Night or early Monday morning in many parts of the world |
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23:03.11 | ritek | Mamarok, good point |
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23:31.05 | erik-k | Aurgh, what happened to all the nice colored-folder icons? |
23:31.29 | erik-k | I found one blue one and that's it... |
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23:35.46 | erik-k | Wait, koffice 2 doesn't read ooxml? |
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23:36.09 | pinotree | nobosy wrote a filter for it so far, i guess |
23:38.55 | erik-k | And why, WHY does it default to A4 instead of letter? |
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23:44.16 | erik-k | sulks away miserably |
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23:46.29 | tetraedr | hi |
23:46.39 | tetraedr | how do I make kde4 to don't take shift-tab? |
23:46.42 | derek_k | erik-k: that is in system settings. the A4. |
23:46.44 | tetraedr | I can't find where is it mapped :( |
23:47.00 | derek_k | erik-k: locale, or something similar. |
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