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| 00:15.19 | Frogbarf | how do I get a program such as xplanet to run on the kde4.2 desktop? this was an easy option on kde 3.5 but now I cannot find such an option |
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| 00:52.35 | phao | how do I make KDE take a screenshot of the screen by me pressing print screen sysrq key? |
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| 01:00.29 | lilltiger | Hi, is anyone fammiliar with kid3 and the string replacing, cos i cant figure out if it can handle regexp or something like that |
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| 01:42.49 | deco | how do i start the kde wizard again ? |
| 01:42.58 | deco | in kde 3.5 |
| 01:45.16 | fyanardi | deco: you mean kpersonalizer? |
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| 01:48.41 | Parkotron | Does anyone here have a 64bit system with KPat installed? I need a favour. |
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| 01:52.42 | dartmouth | hi |
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| 01:53.11 | dartmouth | i want to rip whatever package is causing my shift key to turn my caps lock on right out of my **** system. Can someone help me do this? |
| 01:53.33 | dartmouth | I don't just want to disable it. I want the package _removed_ |
| 01:53.48 | Parkotron | dartmouth: That's more of a distro question than a KDE one. |
| 01:53.54 | dartmouth | no, this is KDE4 |
| 01:54.00 | dartmouth | it does not do this in fluxbox |
| 01:54.17 | dartmouth | I held down my shift key too long and a kde box popped up and turned it on |
| 01:54.22 | dartmouth | and now i want it removed. |
| 01:54.42 | Parkotron | dartmouth: Ah, sticky keys. |
| 01:54.49 | dartmouth | is that what it's called? |
| 01:54.54 | dartmouth | awesome. how do i rip it out? |
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| 01:55.49 | Parkotron | I'm not sure you can. |
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| 01:56.08 | dartmouth | what? |
| 01:56.21 | dartmouth | ok, so how do i make it where that never happens again, under any circumstances? |
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| 01:58.04 | deco | dartmouth: all the good helpers left couple of hours ago :-( |
| 01:58.21 | dartmouth | they must all be off fighting their 'sticky keys' |
| 01:59.05 | deco | dartmouth: kde3.5 no problem here :P |
| 01:59.08 | Parkotron | dartmouth: systemsettings > Accessibility > Modifier Keys > Use sticky keys |
| 01:59.34 | deco | Parkotron: do you know how to start the kde 3.5 wizard ? |
| 01:59.52 | Parkotron | What wizard? |
| 02:00.01 | Parkotron | kpersonalizer? |
| 02:00.27 | deco | Parkotron:yeah i think, it asks what kind of system you want kde unix or windows etc... behavior |
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| 02:00.54 | Parkotron | deco: I'm pretty sure the executable is named "kpersonalizer". |
| 02:01.02 | deco | Parkotron: ok let me try |
| 02:01.50 | deco | Parkotron:it is! thanks :-) |
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| 02:02.22 | Parkotron | deco: Your welcome. |
| 02:02.22 | Parkotron | *You're |
| 02:02.33 | dartmouth | ooh. |
| 02:02.34 | dartmouth | thank you! |
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| 02:05.11 | lymeca | I really want visualisation support back in Amarok, but they say it is missing because of KDE |
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| 02:05.19 | man_in_ltop | waves |
| 02:05.23 | lymeca | What is the status of visualisation support in Phonon? |
| 02:05.53 | Parkotron | lymeca: I believe there's a Summer of Code project dealing with that. |
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| 02:06.14 | ZombieBear | it is a GSoC project indeed |
| 02:06.25 | ZombieBear | there's some issues with the phonon part of the integration |
| 02:06.31 | ZombieBear | the guy is working on it right now |
| 02:06.37 | ZombieBear | can't remember his name |
| 02:06.44 | man_in_ltop | i'm trying to configure konqueror to download a pdf and send it to my pdf viewer instead of sending the URL to the pdf viewer |
| 02:06.55 | ZombieBear | posted about it on his blog the other day, read in on planetkde.org |
| 02:06.56 | man_in_ltop | is this possible? |
| 02:08.33 | Parkotron | man_in_ltop: Do you mind if I ask why? (Unfortunately I don't have an answer for you.) |
| 02:08.59 | man_in_ltop | cos my preferred pdf viewer doesn't take urls on the command line |
| 02:09.18 | man_in_ltop | it doesn't have any facility to download files, because it's a VIEwER |
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| 02:13.41 | man_in_ltop | so any ideas? |
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| 02:14.12 | Parkotron | man_in_ltop: Try having a look the .desktop file for that app. |
| 02:14.32 | Parkotron | See if it's using %u or %f to pass the argument. |
| 02:14.38 | man_in_ltop | %U |
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| 02:14.46 | Parkotron | See http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html |
| 02:15.03 | man_in_ltop | changing to %F worked |
| 02:15.04 | Slash[GnR] | how do i install the air theme? |
| 02:15.04 | man_in_ltop | thanks |
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| 02:15.51 | Parkotron | Sheesh. He gets his answer and then disappears. |
| 02:16.04 | Parkotron | I was going to tell him to report a bug to his distro. |
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| 02:22.02 | Jucato | at least he said "thanks" :) |
| 02:22.35 | Parkotron | Jucato: True enough. |
| 02:24.26 | bbeck | Does anyone know how to check yakuake out of svn? I don't see it on the web site. |
| 02:25.35 | Parkotron | bbeck: extragear/utils/yakuake |
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| 02:26.29 | xirdneh | hi there... my Kopete constantly is getting this warning: kopete cannot connect to the instant messaging server or peers but it doesnt seem to disconnect, it only says that and apparently my contact list doesnt update as it should be |
| 02:26.33 | xirdneh | any ideas? |
| 02:27.01 | ZombieBear | what im service are you connectiong to? |
| 02:28.49 | xirdneh | ZombieBear: msn |
| 02:29.36 | ZombieBear | is your libmsn up to date? |
| 02:29.56 | ZombieBear | kopete uses that to connect with the wlm servers |
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| 02:30.13 | ZombieBear | if that's the case my recommendation would be to try KMess |
| 02:30.21 | ZombieBear | it's better suited if you're using msn only |
| 02:30.40 | ZombieBear | and KMess2.0 beta 2 is plenty stable |
| 02:31.46 | xirdneh | ZombieBear: mmm... maybe ill use KMess, cuz i also use jabber but for dev propouses i use psi |
| 02:31.54 | xirdneh | thnks... ill check out those two things |
| 02:32.24 | ZombieBear | np |
| 02:32.29 | ZombieBear | liibmsn had an update today |
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| 02:32.32 | ZombieBear | so it might just be that |
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| 02:35.40 | ZombieBear | does anyone kneow whether the KDE4 integration for OOo is only in trunk or if it's available in a current testing build? |
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| 02:37.49 | Parkotron | ZombieBear: I'm not even sure it's in trunk yet. |
| 02:40.18 | ZombieBear | it's been added to trunk according to a message i've read in the planetkde blog post |
| 02:40.25 | ZombieBear | or i might've misread it |
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| 03:29.34 | paragan | hi all |
| 03:30.16 | paragan | anyone observed mixed translations appearing in kde 4.2 ? |
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| 03:33.31 | Dhraakellian | hmm... kmix isn't launching for me |
| 03:33.49 | ZombieBear | did you try ruinning it manually? |
| 03:33.50 | Dhraakellian | openSUSE 11.1, KDE4 factory desktop repos |
| 03:34.09 | Dhraakellian | recently updated to KDE 4.3beta2 |
| 03:34.22 | Dhraakellian | huh. |
| 03:34.25 | Dhraakellian | or I thought I did |
| 03:34.38 | Dhraakellian | kde4-config --version says 4.2.88 |
| 03:34.42 | Dhraakellian | not 4.2.90 |
| 03:35.20 | Dhraakellian | <unknown program name>(5238)/: Communication problem with "kmix" , it probably crashed. |
| 03:35.26 | Dhraakellian | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." " |
| 03:35.31 | Dhraakellian | console output |
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| 03:35.55 | Dhraakellian | really ought to go grab the -debuginfo packages if he hasn't already |
| 03:36.11 | Dhraakellian | but I'm in the middle of a rather large package download right at the moment |
| 03:36.14 | ZombieBear | indeed |
| 03:36.18 | ZombieBear | oh yay |
| 03:36.22 | ZombieBear | gotta love it when that happens |
| 03:36.55 | Dhraakellian | yarr. Nexuiz is so much better downloaded independantly via bittorrent (or even sourceforge) and run out of ~ |
| 03:37.33 | ZombieBear | lol |
| 03:37.46 | Dhraakellian | it's actually a wee bit surprising that Suse has the latest version, down to the bugfix release |
| 03:37.56 | ZombieBear | and we all kknow Nexxuiz is higher up the necessity list than a wroking desktop environment |
| 03:38.04 | ZombieBear | nice |
| 03:38.05 | Dhraakellian | oh, of course |
| 03:38.34 | Dhraakellian | 'cause KWin doesn't push my old geforce 5900 nearly hard enough |
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| 05:27.53 | Neto_Gallo | Is it common for KDE4 to crash with the radeon driver? |
| 05:28.32 | reavertm | is it common for radeon driver to crash? |
| 05:29.16 | Neto_Gallo | dosen't happen in gnome |
| 05:29.34 | reavertm | gnome doesn't use opengl |
| 05:29.43 | reavertm | (unless with compiz) |
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| 05:31.53 | inanimate | So what is the preferred development environment for KDE at this point? |
| 05:32.01 | inanimate | Qt Creator? Vim? |
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| 05:32.23 | MaNI | preferred by whom? |
| 05:32.38 | inanimate | Is there any general consensus? |
| 05:32.47 | MaNI | I highly doubt it |
| 05:33.01 | Neto_Gallo | exactly, gnome+compiz+radeon dosen't crash, but kwin+radeon crashes immideatly (even without desktop effects); even radeonhd works fine, are there known problems with radeon driver and kde4? |
| 05:33.22 | inanimate | Does anybody use KDevelop? |
| 05:34.07 | MaNI | I'm sure quite a few people do otherwise they wouldn't still be developing it |
| 05:34.57 | inanimate | Well, I remember it being near defunct at one point... |
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| 05:35.31 | MaNI | kdevelop 4 beta 3 was released not so long ago |
| 05:36.26 | inanimate | Cool. |
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| 05:40.09 | Neto_Gallo | dose anyone use KDE 4.3 and the open radeon driver? |
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| 05:59.23 | Neto_Gallo | kde4 crashes my pc with the radeon driver, any ideas? |
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| 06:13.22 | nascentmind | hi. How do i connect to wireless in kubuntu. I am having a wireless network and the ssid is not being broadcasted. I can connect if the broadcast is present though |
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| 06:22.48 | cb400f | nascentmind: the kde4 networkmanagement plasmoid is unreleased stuff.. and support for hidden ssid was just recently added |
| 06:23.11 | cb400f | guess the version kubuntu shipped is too old |
| 06:23.39 | cb400f | so either broadcast it.. or use the gnome-applet.. or use a different method than NetworkManager |
| 06:23.53 | nascentmind | cb400f: i am using kubuntu 9.04 |
| 06:24.13 | cb400f | yes |
| 06:24.36 | nascentmind | isn't broadcasting not recommended? |
| 06:25.13 | cb400f | if you have good encryption I don't think it matters much |
| 06:25.40 | cb400f | .. if you run into some really dedicated crackers, not broadcasting won't help you anyway afaik |
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| 06:29.57 | nascentmind_ | cb400f: in my wireless security i have security mode as WPA2-Personal and Encryption as TKIP or AES |
| 06:30.08 | nascentmind_ | cb400f: is that fine? |
| 06:30.31 | cb400f | if you have a strong password I guess... |
| 06:30.44 | cb400f | not exactly a wireless security expert |
| 06:31.06 | nascentmind_ | i have linksys modem cum router. so it set up the key for me |
| 06:31.11 | cb400f | maybe kubuntu will update their knm4 before too long |
| 06:32.15 | nascentmind_ | cb400f: the key looks like a hash value with characters and numbers |
| 06:33.21 | nascentmind_ | yeah i hope too. i was quite frustrated trying to find out how to connect without broadcasting |
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| 06:34.54 | nascentmind_ | cb400f: anyways thanks for the help |
| 06:34.58 | PeterFA | What's the name of the KDE IDE? |
| 06:35.20 | nascentmind_ | PeterFA: kdevelop |
| 06:35.37 | PeterFA | nascentmindthanks. |
| 06:35.47 | PeterFA | nascentmind_, thanks. |
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| 06:43.08 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 06:48.40 | ZombieBear | any idea on the status of the kde lirc module? |
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| 06:50.20 | Zombie | Hello. |
| 06:50.39 | Zombie | Does anyone know how to do an OBEX Data transfer in KDE 4.2? |
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| 06:57.17 | cb400f | can we assume that you ask because kbluetooth4 isn't working for you? .. works fairly well here for "playground" software |
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| 06:57.33 | yeats | hey guys |
| 06:57.35 | Zombie | Correct. |
| 06:57.45 | Zombie | It sends, but it won't recieve |
| 06:57.53 | yeats | how do i get my windows key to open to KDE start menu |
| 06:57.55 | yeats | ? |
| 07:02.18 | Zombie | ASSERT failure in QList<T>::at: "index out of range", file /usr/lib/qt4/include/QtCore/qlist.h, line 395 |
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| 07:13.27 | root | buenos días |
| 07:16.34 | Zombie | cb400f: Hello? |
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| 07:23.19 | ZombieBear | does anyone here happen to know about lirc configuration? |
| 07:23.27 | ZombieBear | i'm absolutely lost |
| 07:23.37 | ZombieBear | been googling for over an hour :/ |
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| 07:28.26 | psteyn | can kde deal with 'made for compiz' window decorations? In a native way? |
| 07:28.30 | elmargol | http://imagebin.org/52758 <- any ideas? |
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| 07:38.16 | psteyn | can kde deal with 'made for compiz' window decorations? In a native way? |
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| 07:42.41 | shiznix | shouldn't it be compiz that deals with it ? |
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| 07:46.16 | psteyn | well ideally the format of the window decoration (colours,pictures and so on) should be usable for more than one window manager |
| 07:46.33 | psteyn | dont see how the compositing engine itself has to be tied to the decorations (or vice versa) |
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| 07:49.44 | shiznix | then perhaps i've misunderstood your question |
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| 08:37.59 | microcai | hey, Just shift from gnome to KDE, wo~~~ KDE is so fast! And no longer a "crasher" |
| 08:38.00 | microcai | like it. |
| 08:40.08 | ogex | ? |
| 08:40.33 | microcai | ??? |
| 08:40.54 | microcai | KDE is nice! |
| 08:40.59 | pvandewyngaerde | what kde version are you using ? 4.2 or 4.3 beta ? |
| 08:41.07 | microcai | e.... let me see |
| 08:41.25 | ogex | i use 4.2.3 |
| 08:41.27 | ogex | :D |
| 08:41.36 | microcai | 4.2.3 |
| 08:41.41 | pvandewyngaerde | wait till you see 4.3 ! |
| 08:41.48 | microcai | ?? |
| 08:41.53 | microcai | why ? |
| 08:42.09 | pvandewyngaerde | 4.3 has even more improvements, i really like it |
| 08:42.25 | ogex | pvandewyngaerde, what linux u use / |
| 08:42.26 | ogex | ? |
| 08:42.37 | microcai | wo~~ Just update to KDE 4.2.3 using yum |
| 08:42.54 | psteyn | welcome microcai :p |
| 08:43.04 | microcai | I used to use gnome |
| 08:43.08 | psteyn | start up akregator to get news at it happens from the kde planet |
| 08:43.16 | psteyn | intesting reads every day |
| 08:43.27 | microcai | because KDE was not stable, likely to crash |
| 08:43.28 | pvandewyngaerde | i use kubuntu jaunty amd64 with neon packages, archlinux with testing on my eee pc, and kubuntu karmic in a VM at work on a windows pc |
| 08:43.40 | ogex | wew |
| 08:43.52 | microcai | I'm using Fedora 11 x86_64 |
| 08:43.52 | ogex | rich man |
| 08:43.54 | ogex | hehehe |
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| 08:44.47 | microcai | ogex: I think ..... you are grom GTM +8 ..... |
| 08:45.11 | ogex | no |
| 08:45.16 | ogex | +7 |
| 08:45.20 | ogex | :D |
| 08:45.22 | microcai | ogex: HAHA |
| 08:45.22 | ogex | aceh |
| 08:46.45 | ogex | ? |
| 08:46.54 | ogex | i miss something ? |
| 08:46.56 | szal | Bandar Aceh, Indonesia? |
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| 08:47.21 | ogex | wew |
| 08:47.26 | ogex | yup |
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| 08:47.30 | ogex | but Banda Aceh |
| 08:47.31 | ogex | :D |
| 08:47.49 | microcai | ogex: You are not likely to be a native speaker .... only ** say hehe |
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| 08:48.44 | szal | exceptionally catastrophe-stricken region of the world, gotta be overproportionally many bad people there :P |
| 08:49.19 | med_ | I am running flash studio 8 on wine (fedora 10) and each time I try to export a movie it crashes ... does anybody know why? |
| 08:49.39 | szal | med_: ask in #fedora |
| 08:50.07 | med_ | noone never answers in #fedora :) |
| 08:50.50 | szal | well, no one will ever answer here unless it's a KDE-specific problem |
| 08:51.14 | med_ | mmm .... oke ... that's not cool at all |
| 08:51.19 | ogex | szal, i thing u never go here :D |
| 08:51.27 | ogex | we are friendly |
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| 08:51.48 | med_ | :) |
| 08:52.43 | med_ | another help channel plz.... ? |
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| 08:53.22 | pinotree | they told you: #fedora |
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| 08:55.50 | szal | something else.. could it be that Konqueror is exceptionally unstable in KDE 4.2.4? I hardly ever use Konq, but yesterday, when opening local HTML files, I noticed that every time, without exception, I close Konq it crashes |
| 08:56.38 | cb400f | I use konq with 4.2.4 and it works rather well.. including local html files |
| 08:57.06 | cb400f | it does crash now and then.. but usually with nasty, websites filled with flash all over the place |
| 08:57.10 | szal | same goes for remote WWW addresses |
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| 09:25.09 | tahseen | does anyone here miss the faciliy from most file browser that when you scroll down and go to the end of one column of filenames it would continue to the next column |
| 09:25.29 | tahseen | why doesn't dolphin support that, anybody got a clue? |
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| 09:30.49 | pvandewyngaerde | tahseen, i do not understand the problem |
| 09:31.10 | tahseen | ok, let me try to explain |
| 09:31.28 | tahseen | lets say you are the first row in the first column ... in dolphins column view |
| 09:31.57 | tahseen | you hold the down arrow and it will scroll through the rows but will stop at the last row and not move forward to the first row of the next column |
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| 09:33.38 | pvandewyngaerde | in column view i always only get one column per folder |
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| 09:34.51 | tahseen | sorry its not the column view |
| 09:35.01 | tahseen | its view mode arrangements set to column |
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| 09:41.21 | gk | hello, I have ibm t61p with nvidia quadro fx570m (current nvidia drivers) and was under an impression that nvidia related lags with kde4 were fixed long ago |
| 09:42.39 | gk | however my new gentoo instalation with kde4 still has them, for example yakuake with transparency takes ages to show, lancelot for several seconds displays white background before showing anything and so on |
| 09:42.47 | gk | any idea what's going on? maybe I turned some option wrong? |
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| 09:42.52 | gk | kde-4.3 beta btw |
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| 09:47.47 | tahseen | pvandewyngaerde, was my explanation clear enough? |
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| 09:50.12 | halim | Bonjour |
| 09:50.18 | halim | tous le monde |
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| 10:18.35 | Phateth | Anyone know if there is plasmid updates..specificly network manager...it seems it doesn't have WPA2 support and if so where to get it (4.2 of course) |
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| 10:23.23 | cghislai | Phateth: networkmanager plasmoid is in full refactoring |
| 10:23.45 | Phateth | Ah |
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| 10:35.22 | tahseen | hello, can anyone tell if there's something wrong with activation in kde forum? |
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| 10:35.42 | tahseen | I have used my gmail accout and resend the code 3 times, it never arrieved :( |
| 10:36.26 | pinotree | tahseen: #kde-forum |
| 10:36.34 | gk | Phateth: I think it has WPA2 support... at least I am using it to connect to the WPA2-only network and it works |
| 10:36.40 | tahseen | ok thanks |
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| 10:40.57 | Phateth | well in the select option it only states WPA, i've thoroughly checked it and i don't believe i'm overlooking it |
| 10:41.22 | Phateth | Eh i'll just emerge knetworkmanager and use it rather than the plasmid |
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| 10:48.43 | gk | Phateth: check if that WPA option won't work for you even if access point is WPA2 only |
| 10:48.58 | Phateth | yeah i tried that |
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| 11:40.38 | jado | hi, i have a little "bug" on kate (kde 4.3 beta) when i save a document the "Modified" tag stays on title bar on the top until i change pages |
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| 11:50.59 | cb400f | I've seen that too with kwrite.. the title bar doesn't seem to update |
| 11:51.33 | cb400f | for a second I thought my disk was failing on me cuz it seemed I couldn't save ;-) |
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| 12:34.59 | GNU\colossus | (KDE 4.2.4) KMail refuses to sign my email via GnuPG, error message is "Bad passhrase", although I don't even get the chance to supply one. any ideas how to fix this without falling back to gnupg-agent? |
| 12:35.31 | Mamarok | pinentry is installed? |
| 12:36.58 | GNU\colossus | Mamarok: pinentry is installed, yes. |
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| 12:37.10 | GNU\colossus | the only USE flag enabled for it is ncurses though |
| 12:37.16 | GNU\colossus | (there's no "qt4" available) |
| 12:37.41 | Mamarok | hm, what distribution do you use? |
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| 12:37.56 | GNU\colossus | Mamarok: gentoo |
| 12:38.09 | GNU\colossus | Mamarok: I have the same problem under kubuntu 9.04 though |
| 12:38.35 | Mamarok | hm, can't really help with Gentoo, sorry, kleopatra is a dependency too, sin't it? |
| 12:39.17 | Mamarok | isn't* |
| 12:39.32 | GNU\colossus | Mamarok: it's not installed |
| 12:39.59 | Mamarok | oh, you definitely should install Kleopatra IMHO |
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| 12:47.03 | GNU\colossus | Mamarok: I installed it now, didn't change anything though |
| 12:47.13 | GNU\colossus | the way I see it, pinentry is required |
| 12:47.25 | GNU\colossus | however, I won't be keeping qt3 around for that little app alone |
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| 12:56.16 | lyric | Hello, I like the concept of activities. |
| 12:56.38 | lyric | Is there a way to combine sessions with it |
| 12:57.39 | lyric | i.e. that open applications are grouped by activies. |
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| 12:58.22 | lyric | and not as by default opened in all activties. |
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| 12:59.28 | lyric | I mean that would be perfect, because then for example: |
| 12:59.33 | Anonycat | Is there any way I can get Kate to remember what plugins it should load at runtime, so that I don't have to go into the configuration menu each and every time just to get the tab bar back? |
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| 13:00.10 | lyric | in one development activity I would have my IDE running. |
| 13:00.56 | lyric | and in my gaming activity I would have my favotite game running. |
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| 13:05.37 | Fri13 | lyric: I think then plasma activities would overlap with virtual desktops. |
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| 13:06.05 | Fri13 | lyric: if there comes possibility to have activities tied to virtual desktop, you can have just that. |
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| 13:13.41 | einar77 | Fri13: you can do that in trunk |
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| 13:16.13 | lyric | yes, ineed such an overlap would be interesting. |
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| 13:16.49 | lyric | einar77: what trunk? |
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| 13:17.10 | lyric | you mean it is in development? |
| 13:17.13 | einar77 | lyric: SVN trunk, meaning KDE 4.3 (out at the end of July) |
| 13:17.25 | lyric | Wow!! |
| 13:17.27 | lyric | great |
| 13:17.58 | lyric | Where can I find the release notes? |
| 13:18.19 | lyric | or something like that ;) |
| 13:19.26 | lyric | I thik this feature will boost productivity |
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| 13:23.45 | lyric | unfortunately many users fell, fall and will fall in the cold water, when jumping to KDE4. |
| 13:24.00 | lyric | as I did ;) |
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| 13:24.25 | tuxick | naw, i just had ages of fun with nvidia |
| 13:24.25 | lyric | but good beginner tutorials would be great to convince them. |
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| 13:24.29 | tuxick | and crashing kmail |
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| 13:25.57 | Damian_17 | I can't install opera on my Fedora11. I downloaded RPM and I clicked on them and the icon was jumping and then it dissapire |
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| 13:26.13 | pinotree | Damian_17: you should ask in #fedora |
| 13:27.07 | Damian_17 | #fedora |
| 13:27.36 | lyric | Bye and thanks!! |
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| 13:34.26 | vbgunz | is there an official configurable alarm applet/app that fits awell into KDE4? |
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| 13:35.15 | thiago | only korganizer/kontact, I think |
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| 13:36.31 | cb400f | there are also kteatime or countdown widgets if you're looking for something like that |
| 13:36.41 | cb400f | or kshutdown ;-) |
| 13:37.12 | vbgunz | nah, I would like a reminder everyday at 10:30, I need to get ready to pick up my son from day care |
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| 13:38.34 | spechard | kalarm is still here! |
| 13:40.58 | vbgunz | I have korganizer. I think it'll do what I need. I never used it but it comes installed on kubuntu. anyhow, am figuring it out now but there appears no way to take weekends off with a reminder |
| 13:41.27 | vbgunz | no there is |
| 13:41.33 | spechard | it's possible with kalarm |
| 13:42.24 | vbgunz | I chose daily at first which is what I want but the weekly option which is a bit confusing actually offers up which days of the week I need the alarm. this is good I hope :) |
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| 13:50.24 | vbgunz | korganizer I think will do great for what I need. heh, first time actually using it |
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| 14:01.15 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 14:01.58 | rindolf | After downloading the kdewin installer from http://windows.kde.org/download.php , I'm getting: "is not a valid Win32 application" |
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| 14:03.26 | pinotree | rindolf: #kde-windows |
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| 14:03.54 | rindolf | pinotree: thanks. |
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| 14:17.10 | AL13N_work | i was wondering if kdm in kde4 has good e-id (smartcard) login support |
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| 14:19.55 | pvandewyngaerde | Belgium greets AL13N_work |
| 14:19.59 | pvandewyngaerde | i dont know |
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| 14:27.56 | AL13N_work | pvandewyngaerde: the whole of Belgium? |
| 14:27.57 | AL13N_work | wow |
| 14:28.00 | AL13N_work | :-) |
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| 14:29.35 | dziadu | my gwenview-4.2.91 refuse to display image/png and image/jpeg files? |
| 14:29.37 | dziadu | any ideas why? |
| 14:29.42 | dziadu | my system is gentoo |
| 14:29.51 | dziadu | maybe i have some missing in depedencies? |
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| 14:29.55 | Sho_ | dziadu: #gentoo-kde |
| 14:30.01 | dziadu | previous versions works fine |
| 14:30.04 | Sho_ | it's a setup issue, so it's more distro-related |
| 14:30.07 | dziadu | Sho_: i asked already |
| 14:30.17 | dziadu | but maybe here you can give me advice |
| 14:31.12 | dziadu | is gewenview responsible for displaying images itself or mayb some depedencies? |
| 14:31.16 | psteyn | advice would be to ask your distro channel. but it seems that you havent compiled kde with png or jpeg support, or havent compiled those packages |
| 14:31.20 | dziadu | then i will know what to try to recompile |
| 14:31.39 | psteyn | ask gentoo :p |
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| 14:31.45 | dziadu | ok ok :-P |
| 14:32.25 | BeteNoire | hi, anyone knows already how to disable "is-someone-logged-on-tty" check in kde4? |
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| 14:32.42 | Sho_ | most likely you don't have the use flags for the formats enabled, or it's a problem with broken linkage, so look into your use flags and into revdep-rebuild |
| 14:32.43 | alpha_one_x86 | Hello, in battery monitor settings I have not suspend to ram, why? How test in command line? |
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| 14:35.14 | dajomu | Anyone involved in the development of KpackageKit? |
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| 14:39.08 | merlin65537 | I have a question on the bugtracker |
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| 14:39.53 | merlin65537 | I'm trying to report a bug on the calendar-part of kipi-plugins, but the application list only shows the calender part of Kontact |
| 14:40.22 | merlin65537 | how do I get the right application? |
| 14:40.42 | pinotree | "kipiplugins" |
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| 14:42.32 | merlin65537 | that still shows the calendar part of Kontact |
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| 14:43.37 | pinotree | don't look for "calendar", but use the search in all of the applications and pick the "kipiplugins" product |
| 14:44.01 | merlin65537 | okay, I'll do that |
| 14:44.26 | merlin65537 | thanks |
| 14:44.46 | pinotree | note that you don't need to be 100% exact in product/component opening, as bugs can be reassigned to other products, anyway |
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| 14:49.13 | retybok | What's the best jabber client for KDE? |
| 14:49.24 | thiago | kopete |
| 14:52.55 | retybok | thiago: kopete is a fine multi-protocol client, but I'd like something more focused on jabber |
| 14:53.05 | retybok | I don't care about msn compatibility |
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| 14:53.44 | thiago | well, the only client is usually the best client |
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| 14:56.46 | retybok | Ok, I thought there might be something better |
| 14:57.01 | retybok | I guess I will stick with kopete then |
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| 15:40.35 | xtaz | hello all. It seems ipod isn't supported natively in amarok 2.0.2. right ? |
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| 15:43.40 | lilltiger | xtaz: ask in #amarok |
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| 15:47.21 | xtaz | okay thanks |
| 15:48.54 | Half-Left | xtaz: it uses libgpod so yeah it should be |
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| 15:50.30 | xtaz | libgpod is installed on my system (ubuntu 9.04) but i can't upload music on my ipod |
| 15:52.00 | Half-Left | I heard they had issue with devices in 2.0. 2.1 has better support as I remember |
| 15:52.51 | Half-Left | 2.1 is just much better anyway IMO. |
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| 15:53.31 | xtaz | ok i'll upgrade amarok |
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| 15:58.01 | jado | does kate have spelling check ? |
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| 15:59.53 | castingcrowns | Does anyone know where addressbok stores all your contacs? |
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| 16:01.28 | huhu_ | hi folks.... would you recommend me KDE3 or KDE4 if i have only 256MB ram? |
| 16:01.58 | Half-Left | huhu_: That's tight on both |
| 16:02.05 | jado | castingcrowns: try a grep on all your home files :p |
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| 16:02.28 | castingcrowns | jado: what am I greping for though. |
| 16:05.18 | Simkin | huhu_: i'd say kde3, not because it's easier on memory but more because it's just more usable at this point. |
| 16:05.20 | castingcrowns | nevermind, I found it hiding in kabc |
| 16:05.29 | jado | castingcrowns: you can add a specific contact and try and greping it ? |
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| 16:06.31 | castingcrowns | jado: well actually, I am trying to restore my old contacts from because I re-sintalled my os. just didnt know where the addressbook stuff was at. but I found it. so all is well |
| 16:07.24 | Half-Left | Simkin: I'm glad you're not speaking for everyone here :p |
| 16:08.11 | jado | ok :) |
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| 16:11.58 | BluesKaj | Now that konversation and amarok2 are working ok , id like to rid my machine of any kde3 baggage. Is there a command or small script that I'm not aware of available for such a process ? |
| 16:12.39 | pinotree | you should ask that in the channel of your distro, actually |
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| 16:14.37 | BluesKaj | yeah, i shudda known that response was coming |
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| 16:17.10 | Simkin | Half-Left: you find kde 4.2.4 to be more usable than 3.5.10 ? |
| 16:17.10 | Half-Left | pinotree: Did you try OO.o KDE4 integration? |
| 16:17.14 | pinotree | nope |
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| 16:18.03 | Simkin | what is oo.o kde 4 integration? |
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| 16:18.08 | Simkin | or what does it do. |
| 16:18.13 | Half-Left | Simkin: I didn't make assumptions on the question. My own opinion, yes I do find KDE4.x to be much better than KDE3 |
| 16:18.34 | Simkin | Half-Left: i still have a slew of stability issues with it :( |
| 16:18.49 | Half-Left | 4.3 is much better |
| 16:18.50 | Simkin | maybe i should try a reinstall from scratch vs trying to import my settings from kde 3.x |
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| 16:23.39 | Half-Left | Simkin: Stability issue should go away in time. 4.3 seems to have made great strides in that. |
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| 16:35.26 | Simkin | Half-Left: then i look forward to 4.3! |
| 16:36.16 | Half-Left | Simkin: Well put is this way. I've been hammering 4.3 in beta, no plasma crashes for over a week |
| 16:36.31 | Simkin | a week is good |
| 16:36.36 | Simkin | i'd be glad to get through a day :) |
| 16:37.17 | Half-Left | I heard task grouping can cause a few crashes |
| 16:38.42 | Simkin | Half-Left: i wasn't trying to knock kde 4.2 btw. i really like kde, but 3.5 and 4.2 |
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| 16:39.20 | Simkin | but i find for people who have not used kde yet, 3.5 is the better exerperience |
| 16:39.54 | Guest13742 | last time I was trying kde 4 serie (exacly) I got around 1-2 crahes each day so I am vent back to kde 3.5 to kde 4.3 hits debian testing |
| 16:40.01 | Half-Left | well in a way that's sort of true but KDE4 is mostly new tech |
| 16:40.41 | beer__ | when lde 4 begins to be more stable it will be nice |
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| 16:51.01 | cumulus007 | will bluetooth support in kde 4.3 be expanded? I'd like to browse through my phone as a file system and dragging and dropping music |
| 16:52.46 | cumulus007 | bluetooth in kde 4 is still very small |
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| 16:53.18 | gilles | hello |
| 16:53.52 | gilles | i'm a happy kde user |
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| 16:54.12 | gilles | but i got a complain |
| 16:54.46 | gilles | login into a kde session is way too slow |
| 16:55.30 | gilles | from kdm to an usable desktop it takes more than 60 seconds |
| 16:55.53 | Simkin | gilles: woah |
| 16:55.53 | lilltiger | gilles: the first time it's slow cos it creates alot of configs, then it should be fast unless it restores alot of programs |
| 16:56.06 | lilltiger | 60sec! |
| 16:56.23 | gilles | so when i poweron my pc i must wait two minutes before using anything |
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| 16:56.53 | gilles | an xfce session takes usually 10 seconds |
| 16:56.55 | lilltiger | gilles: try closing all runing apps, log off and then log in again and time it |
| 16:57.13 | lilltiger | might be an app that is taking ages to restore |
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| 16:57.57 | gilles | if i logout and login again it takes more than 30 seconds |
| 16:58.14 | fyanardi | gilles: does your KDE restore a lot of applications? |
| 16:58.31 | fyanardi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.55 | gilles | well it star yakuake, klipper, kopete, kmix and some plasmoids |
| 16:59.27 | lilltiger | gilles: tur all of thoes off, log out and log in, tur off all autostarts as well |
| 16:59.48 | lilltiger | then add em few at a time to find wich app is responsible |
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| 17:00.20 | gilles | i'm using 4.3b2 |
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| 17:00.44 | gilles | 3.5 was very speedy |
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| 17:01.16 | lilltiger | gilles: do as I say first, then complain.. |
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| 17:01.52 | gilles | and dolphin too is slow comparing to nautilus |
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| 17:02.31 | brot | ? |
| 17:02.37 | lilltiger | gilles: my guess is that you are runing some app that is killing your performance |
| 17:02.38 | brot | dolphin is really roaring fast. |
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| 17:02.53 | brot | at least here :D |
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| 17:03.09 | Half-Left | lol, nautilus is very slow, try large directories |
| 17:03.10 | brot | if you are using a slow 2d card that may be the problem. |
| 17:03.11 | lilltiger | mayby an faulty plasmoid, or faulty grph drivers or something.. |
| 17:03.21 | gilles | when i enter a folder with lot of files thumbnails last forever |
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| 17:04.02 | gilles | it seems it doesn't remember it had created thumbnails the first time |
| 17:04.19 | lilltiger | gilles: have you tried what i told you yet.. |
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| 17:04.41 | gilles | i'm on it |
| 17:05.15 | lilltiger | gilles: you should also benchmark your hd, might be issues with dma or something as the thumbing is slow |
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| 17:05.46 | gilles | in settings, session manager it restore previous |
| 17:05.53 | gilles | session |
| 17:06.08 | gilles | that's correct ? |
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| 17:07.02 | lilltiger | it should, and it shouldent take long time to do so |
| 17:07.15 | lilltiger | but you can turn it off and try |
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| 17:07.22 | lilltiger | also stop all plasmoids |
| 17:08.01 | junkDawgie | gilles: dolphin was slow to me when i used the preview capabilites and the information panel.... pdf files especially, since i changed that it's been fine. |
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| 17:09.02 | Dumble | I have two problems with 4.3 beta2 (maybe related...) : when I logoff, my plasma settings (the positions where I put my panels) are not saved, and whenever I simply logoff of switch off the computer, kdm crashes... |
| 17:09.05 | gilles | in a directoy with a lot of pictures thumbnailing takes 120 seconds with nautilus and up to 4 minutes with dolphin |
| 17:09.40 | Dumble | I already had the settings problems with 4.1 and 4.2, but sometime, I don't know why, the settings are saved and everything is OK |
| 17:09.52 | Dumble | (and kdm didn't crash) |
| 17:10.04 | Half-Left | Depends, each user a different way |
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| 17:11.13 | Half-Left | Fast doesn't mean better in all cases |
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| 17:11.44 | gilles | logout then be back |
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| 17:16.01 | Dumble | hum, I'm not sure that the settings bug is related to kdm crash : if I do kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop, almost all my config is lost... |
| 17:16.05 | Dumble | not all O.o |
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| 17:16.29 | Dumble | on my 7 panels, 2 are misplaced |
| 17:17.20 | Dumble | and when I logged off/logged in several minutes ago, everything was misplaced :s |
| 17:17.25 | lilltiger | Dumble: try to rename your ~\.kde dir and try to reproduce it |
| 17:17.49 | lilltiger | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.13 | Dumble | I reproduced it with removing the .kde/share/config/plasma* |
| 17:18.42 | Dumble | and I got this problem with 4.1 and 4.2 also when resetting all my profile :s |
| 17:18.48 | lilltiger | Dumble: can be other stuff in .kde that is messing |
| 17:19.17 | Dumble | I tried this with previous version of KDE 4 and already got this problem |
| 17:19.27 | lilltiger | Dumble: then check your filesystem, it might be corrupt |
| 17:19.38 | Dumble | and I don't know why, everrything started to go well... |
| 17:19.46 | Dumble | already done, it is OK |
| 17:20.00 | lilltiger | you checked it with the block flag? |
| 17:20.12 | Dumble | I got this on 3 differents computers... |
| 17:20.29 | lilltiger | then you are doing something very wrong |
| 17:20.37 | reavertm | not necessarily |
| 17:20.52 | Dumble | I juste upgraded to 4.3 and the bug reappeared |
| 17:20.54 | lilltiger | if it's happening in different computers with different versions of kde.. |
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| 17:21.28 | SSJ_GZ | Plenty of bugs happen on different computers with different versions of kde. |
| 17:21.37 | reavertm | I'd say plasma is pretty easy to lost its config files or being unable to read it properly or screw it when saving or <insert_any_possible_kconfig_related_issue_here> |
| 17:21.37 | lilltiger | Dumble: hmm dident you just say that you had the same problem with 4.2 and 4.1 |
| 17:22.03 | Dumble | lilltiger, yes, I had this problem |
| 17:22.14 | Dumble | and it doesn't occur everytime |
| 17:22.25 | lilltiger | Dumble: but you said the issue reapered, when did it work? |
| 17:22.31 | reavertm | such kconfig related bugs are usually solved in stable releases |
| 17:22.56 | Dumble | It started working without explanation sometime when I was in 4.2 (no upgrade) |
| 17:23.09 | reavertm | so you should try to reproduce it on clean account, and report if it's still there |
| 17:23.09 | Dumble | while I got it a the beginning |
| 17:23.54 | Dumble | I will try it with a new user |
| 17:24.21 | Vegita | hi all! how can I retrieve owerwritten data from an ext3 partition? (it's not the ssystem, and pitivi "video" "editor" owerwritten my 87mb ogg video with a 0byte file without question) |
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| 17:24.34 | Vegita | pitivi is a shit gtk+ application |
| 17:24.35 | lilltiger | Vegita: you cant |
| 17:24.36 | reavertm | or even report it now, as making config files broken or badly reading them is application bug anyway |
| 17:24.44 | Vegita | aidemux qt didn't open that for me |
| 17:24.49 | Vegita | :S |
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| 17:25.49 | lilltiger | Vegita: overwritten data as as good as impossible to restore, eaven after just one overwrite |
| 17:26.00 | Vegita | thanks |
| 17:26.15 | Vegita | buta 0 byte sized file is the new one |
| 17:26.23 | Vegita | even in that case? |
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| 17:26.31 | Vegita | stupid gtk+ pitivix |
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| 17:26.41 | Vegita | whà couldn't he ask on button "save as" |
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| 17:26.49 | Vegita | 1.save as what? project? file? |
| 17:27.02 | lilltiger | Vegita: well then the data might not be overwritten and could be restored with restoration utilities |
| 17:27.17 | Vegita | which are these restoration utilities? |
| 17:27.23 | Vegita | for ext3 nonsystem drive? |
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| 17:27.26 | Vegita | only mounted ext3 |
| 17:27.48 | reavertm | there's no 'restoration |
| 17:28.01 | reavertm | or undelete utilities for ext3 |
| 17:28.23 | Vegita | :S |
| 17:28.25 | lilltiger | reavertm: hmm there should be |
| 17:28.27 | Vegita | t wa simprtant |
| 17:28.35 | Vegita | *it |
| 17:28.47 | reavertm | you'd need to play with disk editor or sth (or grep /dev/hda looking for file header and pray file is not fragmented) |
| 17:29.00 | Vegita | I just wnted to upload a video toyoutube on which I killed to comuters in Heroes 3 on hardest setting :D |
| 17:29.02 | lilltiger | http://www.spiralshare.com/doku.php?id=linux:storage_and_disks:filesystems:ext3:low_level_restoration:ext_low-level_data_restoration_forensics |
| 17:29.02 | Vegita | in 28 mins |
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| 17:29.17 | lilltiger | ahh |
| 17:29.19 | Vegita | and now te video is gone |
| 17:29.21 | lilltiger | then dont bother |
| 17:29.31 | Vegita | :DI'll beat them again |
| 17:29.33 | Vegita | :D |
| 17:29.56 | Vegita | thank you btw |
| 17:30.19 | lilltiger | Vegita: it's possible to restore, but very hard and might not restore all (althought if it's not overwritte it should be possible) |
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| 17:30.55 | reavertm | interesting link, it actually does what I said, but with some tools |
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| 17:31.07 | lilltiger | Vegita: also if you realy realy want to remove an file, use "shread" :D that will overwrite the file 25 times.. making it totaly impossible to recover |
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| 17:31.42 | Peace- | LOL |
| 17:31.47 | Vegita | thank you |
| 17:31.49 | Vegita | lolz |
| 17:32.09 | lilltiger | reavertm: mmm, nd it works "fine" :) |
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| 17:34.40 | Dumble | grmbl... it didn't happened with my test user, and this time, everything goes well with my normal account... |
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| 17:38.37 | Falken_Za | elo? |
| 17:39.32 | lilltiger | Dumble: so your normal user started to work after you tested it with a new user? |
| 17:40.20 | Dumble | yes, but usualy i do not have to do this kind of magic.... |
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| 17:41.04 | Dumble | it starts to work without doing anything except reconfiguring everything for the Xth time.... |
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| 17:41.35 | Dumble | :s |
| 17:41.42 | hemanth | NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS equivalent for KDE ? |
| 17:41.55 | Peace- | hemanth: ? |
| 17:42.04 | reavertm | what is this |
| 17:42.17 | Peace- | kdialog <-------zenity |
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| 17:42.34 | hemanth | Peace-: that is for Nautilus what is for dolphin I meant |
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| 17:43.01 | Peace- | hemanth: ok but what does it? |
| 17:43.03 | Falken_Za | sigh.. i'm such a noob |
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| 17:43.15 | Peace- | hemanth: theare a lots of service menu on kde-apps |
| 17:43.18 | lilltiger | Dumble: ahh so you reconfigured it from scratch, that why i said to rename the .kde folder :P and crash or something could have caused some conf file to be currupt causing alot of issues |
| 17:43.25 | Peace- | hemanth: there are |
| 17:43.33 | luismi | Hola |
| 17:43.58 | Peace- | hemanth: http://www.kde-apps.org/?xcontentmode=287 |
| 17:44.50 | hemanth | Peace-: the problem is I have written a nautilus script , and I doubt it will run on KDE so asked |
| 17:44.52 | Dumble | lilltiger, I didn't reconfigured from scratch for my normal user... |
| 17:45.11 | Dumble | only the test user was from scratch |
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| 17:45.21 | Peace- | hemanth: no it doesn't work but there are for sure some kind o stuff for that work |
| 17:45.25 | Dumble | :s |
| 17:45.29 | lilltiger | Dumble: then had you upgraded any kde/qt libs and forgotten to restart kde? |
| 17:45.30 | Peace- | hemanth: just search on kde apps |
| 17:45.43 | hemanth | Peace-: checking , thanks |
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| 17:46.10 | Dumble | lilltiger, no, I upgraded two days ago and rebooted my computer several time since then |
| 17:46.36 | Dumble | and everythime I had to adjust the configuration |
| 17:47.01 | Dumble | and not all panels where messing |
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| 17:47.22 | gilles | lilltiger: i tried with a test user and it takes more than 40 secondes between login and being able to use anything |
| 17:47.34 | lilltiger | Dumble: then try to reproduce it and find out why it did go ballistic in the firs place :) |
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| 17:47.58 | Dumble | how can I trace what happen ? |
| 17:48.00 | lilltiger | gilles: first time yes, did you try to login a second time? |
| 17:48.10 | gilles | how does a login takes time for you |
| 17:48.13 | gilles | ? |
| 17:48.38 | gilles | y i tried a second time with same results |
| 17:48.50 | lilltiger | gilles: abut 10sec but it starts up about 20 webpages, and 15 different apps |
| 17:48.53 | gilles | perhaps its 4.3b2 |
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| 17:49.19 | gilles | are you using kubuntu ? |
| 17:49.25 | lilltiger | gilles: with the new clean user, try to log in more then once |
| 17:49.30 | lilltiger | no im using archlinux |
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| 17:49.48 | lilltiger | althought im considering going back to gentoo |
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| 17:50.06 | gilles | i've tried again and again and its way too slow |
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| 17:50.21 | lilltiger | gilles: with the clean user? |
| 17:50.23 | gilles | you're using 4.2 ? |
| 17:50.36 | Dumble | lilltiger, this is my KDE well configured : http://omploader.org/vMXVqMQ |
| 17:50.36 | lilltiger | 4.2.3 right now i think.. |
| 17:50.41 | gilles | y, with the clean user too |
| 17:50.49 | Dumble | and the messed one http://omploader.org/vMXVqMg |
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| 17:51.12 | Dumble | (just got it again :s ) |
| 17:51.34 | Peace- | Dumble: hahaha xchat |
| 17:51.36 | Dumble | the panel with the taskbar and the one with the firefox icon are never putted in place |
| 17:51.38 | Peace- | omg |
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| 17:51.56 | Peace- | konversation rulez |
| 17:52.00 | Dumble | with KDE 4.1 and 4.2, this happened with others panels |
| 17:52.05 | lilltiger | Dumble: try to repuduce the issue and file an bug report :) |
| 17:52.21 | Dumble | I just reproduced it.... |
| 17:52.41 | gilles | any kubuntu users here ? |
| 17:52.45 | lilltiger | gilles: then try to log into the native X environment |
| 17:53.00 | hemanth | Peace-: /me finding it tough to search for that single line in all those apps |
| 17:53.20 | gilles | y, i run xfce session then start my kde apps |
| 17:53.23 | lilltiger | gilles: an in an console type startkde and check if it takes as long time there |
| 17:53.29 | Dumble | lilltiger, which files do you think I should provide with the bug report ? |
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| 17:53.57 | Peace- | hemanth: i can't understand what that script does can you explain better? |
| 17:54.07 | lilltiger | Dumble: hard to say before you managed to reproduce it |
| 17:54.21 | Dumble | I reproduced it.... |
| 17:54.32 | lilltiger | Dumble: ahh ok, how? :) |
| 17:54.36 | Dumble | I reproduce it everytime I log in |
| 17:54.46 | Dumble | -_- |
| 17:54.54 | lilltiger | Dumble: but dident yo say it started to work? |
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| 17:55.18 | somekool | anyone found a hack so that \\host\share\path url works in konqueror ? without changing the slashes and adding smb:// |
| 17:55.19 | Dumble | it worked the previous time I logged off/logged in |
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| 17:55.37 | Dumble | and I have just redone this and it happened again |
| 17:55.39 | hemanth | Peace-: NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS gives me the path right , I am using this in a small script which copies that file to /home , but how to go about in kde , I want to get the path of the selected variable form a variable |
| 17:56.09 | hemanth | Peace-: rather I want newline-delimited paths for selected files (only if local) |
| 17:56.20 | lilltiger | Dumble: ahh ok, try to log off then login to the new user, log it off and to your current user again to see if it will work again then (like it started to work last time) |
| 17:56.35 | Peace- | hemanth: omg it's simple then |
| 17:56.58 | Peace- | hemanth: download this is my service menu http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/akw-qt?content=104980 |
| 17:57.05 | Dumble | ok |
| 17:57.20 | Peace- | hemanth: look at that |
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| 17:57.31 | Peace- | hemanth: on akw.desktop |
| 17:57.44 | Peace- | i think you should understand |
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| 17:58.16 | hemanth | Peace-: yup :) , but is there a way to chk if the user is one gnome or kde ? |
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| 18:00.17 | Peace- | hemanth: you mean on the session ? |
| 18:00.25 | Peace- | mm |
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| 18:00.46 | hemanth | Peace-: yup |
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| 18:01.06 | Peace- | hemanth: with bash i think yes echo $DESKTOP_SESSION |
| 18:01.09 | Peace- | maybe |
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| 18:01.25 | Dumble | got it :'( |
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| 18:01.45 | Peace- | Dumble: i am sorry i am a bit tired |
| 18:01.59 | hemanth | Peace-: kool :) , and I was try to add a right entry not like to run the script from actions ? that can be done ? |
| 18:02.23 | lilltiger | Dumble: so did it still work in the new user, but was broken in the org? |
| 18:02.25 | Dumble | Peace-, I was talking to lilltiger :) |
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| 18:02.56 | Dumble | it worked with the new, but I got to reconfigure with the normal user |
| 18:03.20 | Peace- | hemanth: i didn't get it |
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| 18:03.30 | Dumble | so, bug report |
| 18:03.42 | hemanth | Peace-: right click menu option I meant |
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| 18:04.04 | Peace- | hemanth: yes |
| 18:04.31 | Peace- | my stuff has the menu options |
| 18:04.47 | Peace- | enqueue, remove,generate kdenlive project |
| 18:04.54 | Peace- | start kdenlive and so on |
| 18:05.05 | lilltiger | Dumble: well unless you cant make it fail with the new it's will be very hard for someone to reproduce it, hmm maybe if you supply an way for others to test your .kde folder that is corrupt... but not sure anyone will bother :( |
| 18:06.09 | Dumble | so, what can I do to solve this bug myself ? I cannot wipe out my profile, I have important data in it (emails...) |
| 18:06.42 | lilltiger | Dumble: migrate it to the nev user |
| 18:07.29 | lilltiger | Dumble: but only migrate the things that is important like the emails |
| 18:07.32 | hemanth | Peace-: going through :) |
| 18:07.40 | Dumble | :s |
| 18:08.06 | Dumble | I won't do that everytime I upgrade my KDE... |
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| 18:08.36 | lilltiger | Dumble: issues like that is often fixed in the stable versions |
| 18:09.23 | Dumble | I won't do that everytime I upgrade my KDE... |
| 18:09.29 | lilltiger | Dumble: so when 4.3 is stable then there shouldent be issues like that when upgrading from 4.2 |
| 18:10.02 | Dumble | I got it with 4.1 and 4.2.... it is not something new |
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| 18:10.53 | lilltiger | Dumble: but i guess you upgraded from or to an unstable 4.1 / 4.2 |
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| 18:11.33 | Dumble | I upgraded from 4.1 to 4.2 directly and from 4.2 to 4.3 beta |
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| 18:11.57 | Dumble | or 4.2rc, I don't remembed exactly |
| 18:12.03 | lilltiger | rc.. |
| 18:12.05 | lilltiger | :p |
| 18:12.07 | Dumble | this is the first time I upgrade to a beta |
| 18:12.14 | hemanth | Peace-: how to avoid those $DESKTOP_SESSION dependencies |
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| 18:12.23 | Dumble | and the KDE 4.2 final didn't solved the bug... |
| 18:12.44 | zilti | Yes, because you still have the old config files |
| 18:12.58 | Dumble | I don't know exactly what happened, it is like at some point it saved the config correctly |
| 18:13.04 | lilltiger | Dumble: it cant solve it if you did an upgrade prior to the upgrade issues being fixed |
| 18:13.16 | Dumble | and before 4.1, I was using 3.5, so no plasma config... |
| 18:14.03 | lilltiger | it happend o me alot when useing unstable builds of ke, havent haaaaaaappend once since i went over o only go from stable to stable |
| 18:14.16 | Dumble | it is well after I used the final version that the config started to be well managed |
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| 18:19.33 | BubbaT | In kde4.2 how do I change my window manager to compiz. |
| 18:19.54 | lilltiger | why would you want that? |
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| 18:20.28 | BubbaT | Because I want to. |
| 18:20.49 | cumulus007 | I'm trying to install a plasma theme I complied to my home directory instead of the root |
| 18:21.02 | lilltiger | BubbaT: then google for it, kde now uses it's own desktop effects wich you enable in the system settings |
| 18:21.05 | cumulus007 | I want to set the CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX, but I don't know how |
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| 18:22.05 | Dumble | ok, I think I will try to look myself in the code |
| 18:22.14 | reavertm | -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=<prefix> |
| 18:22.19 | cumulus007 | thanks |
| 18:22.20 | kdepepo | cumulus007, hm, a plasma theme usually does not need to be "compiled", you just copy it to .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme |
| 18:22.36 | Dumble | O.o you are using lzma to make tarballs now ? |
| 18:22.37 | cumulus007 | I know, but the installation is done with cmake |
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| 18:30.22 | alex1_ | hello |
| 18:30.42 | alex1_ | I just thought I would stop bye |
| 18:30.45 | alex1_ | and ask |
| 18:30.56 | alex1_ | does KDE support windows |
| 18:31.10 | alex1_ | ???????????? |
| 18:31.43 | Peace- | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:32.34 | hemanth | Peace-: okies thank you |
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| 18:35.24 | Half-Left | wow, talk about a quick question. |
| 18:36.06 | Half-Left | That person probably thinks that was a troll :p |
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| 18:37.53 | isaacvv | lol |
| 18:38.00 | isaacvv | wow was that a serious question? |
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| 18:38.46 | Half-Left | Why not? KDE4 stuff has been ported to Windows |
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| 18:40.43 | Slade | what is the latest version of Ksirc? |
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| 18:44.34 | cumulus007 | I have a make file that tries to install in / |
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| 18:44.57 | cumulus007 | I've tried to run cmake with the CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX option to make it install in my home folder, but that didn't help |
| 18:45.40 | cumulus007 | Half-Left: your Carbon Theme's makefile does that :/ |
| 18:46.16 | Half-Left | Yes, it supposed to |
| 18:47.01 | reavertm | don't try to set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX anywere in cmakelists.txt :P |
| 18:47.32 | cumulus007 | I didn't, the file says DON'T EDIT :P |
| 18:47.46 | Half-Left | just copy it |
| 18:47.49 | reavertm | cumulus007: what package is that anyway? |
| 18:47.54 | pinotree | Slade: the one shipped with kde 3.5, which is more or less the the same since 4 years or so |
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| 18:48.20 | pinotree | cumulus007: what is the exact cmake command you issued? |
| 18:48.30 | cumulus007 | Half-Left's carbon plasma theme, it's in playground |
| 18:48.32 | Half-Left | cumulus007: it installs to the proper root kde directory as installable themes do |
| 18:48.33 | cumulus007 | I did: |
| 18:49.06 | cumulus007 | sander@sander-desktop:~/Downloads/Carbon/build$ cmake ../ -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/$USER |
| 18:49.08 | Half-Left | Same as kdeartwork does if you install that and it's plasma themes |
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| 18:50.05 | Half-Left | You only do that in the top level directory |
| 18:50.22 | cumulus007 | ooh |
| 18:50.29 | reavertm | (just invoke mak && make install from Carbon dir |
| 18:50.35 | Slade | cumulus007: thanks |
| 18:50.45 | cumulus007 | for what, Slade? |
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| 18:54.01 | cumulus007 | it still tries to install in / |
| 18:54.18 | Half-Left | cumulus007: hehe, now you know. When you build stuff like that, always run cmake from the toplevel directory and make in the lower ones after |
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| 19:33.25 | gkr | hi, I've some problem with plasma crashing at start-up. Archlinux, kde 4.2.91 |
| 19:33.47 | gkr | this happend since I've set a 'satellite view' as background |
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| 19:52.08 | LXj | hey, what weather provider was used in kweather in KDE 3.5? I can't find my city in KDE 4.3's weather providers :( |
| 19:52.11 | basmati | i've setup a machine for my mom so that after the computer starts up and she logs in from the terminal, kde starts up [.bash_profile has startx in it and .xinitrc has startkde in it]. but when she goes to logout, there's only options to logout, lock screen, switch user, suspend to (ram|disk) but no reboot or halt |
| 19:52.24 | basmati | how would i add support for that in the leave menu of the application launcher? |
| 19:52.49 | LXj | basantk, I think you need to use KDM for that |
| 19:53.11 | basmati | LXj: is it? okay. i'll do that. it makes more sense that way. thanks very much |
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| 19:55.09 | Profus2 | test |
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| 19:56.54 | pinotree | Profus2: english here, or #kde.de for german-talking |
| 19:57.09 | Profus2 | oh, sorry |
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| 20:12.30 | Guest44342 | hello |
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| 20:14.39 | Guest44342 | can anyone help with mounting a nvidia raid 0 Primary Partition on fedora 11, I can get it to mount but it messes up after a reboot |
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| 20:17.18 | transMIssion | Heyho KDE people! |
| 20:17.24 | pinotree | Guest44342: you should ask in #fedora |
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| 20:20.46 | transMIssion | what is the minimum RAM for a kde4 surface? |
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| 20:24.43 | Half-Left | transMIssion: 256mb really. people say it works surprisingly well with a good CPU |
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| 20:26.17 | gkr | someone know where I can reset my background image settings by editing a file ? plasma-desktop is crashing at start up since I've play with that... |
| 20:28.42 | Half-Left | gkr: Try plasma-desktop-appletsrc |
| 20:28.58 | gkr | thank, I'll give it a try |
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| 20:34.06 | deco | how do i make kmix always stay in the system tray ? |
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| 20:34.19 | transMIssion | Half-Left: I got 380 MB an a 700 MHz Pentium, will that do the job? |
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| 20:35.06 | gkr | plasma working again. thank Half-Left |
| 20:36.06 | bertodsera_ | has anyone managed to activate text-to-speech? I get no error from it, but no sound either |
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| 20:36.40 | miboo | guys, is there a kde4 application for web editing? |
| 20:36.59 | Half-Left | gkr: Great! :) |
| 20:37.30 | Half-Left | transMIssion: My opinion is that's cutting it fine |
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| 20:37.56 | basmati | so is amarok officially part of kde4? if so, there are a lot of bugs that i'd like to get fixed. any resources to help me get along that path? i know c++ and how to use qt4 (self taught and rusty), but am unfamiliar with kde's conventions |
| 20:38.03 | transMIssion | Half-left: does the performance depend on the distribution? |
| 20:38.34 | basmati | one bug for example is that there is no way to copy from my mom's ipod to her computer (i can copy from the computer to the ipod thought) |
| 20:38.35 | transMIssion | Half-left: if so wich one would you prefer? |
| 20:38.37 | Half-Left | Some would say some are faster then others |
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| 20:39.02 | miboo | quanta plus is so 3.x |
| 20:39.04 | miboo | any kde4 web editor? |
| 20:40.24 | Half-Left | transMIssion: Depends, If you want a Automated one, I go Fedora 11. If you want to manually setup on I'd go ArchLinux. This is only my opinion which you've asked |
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| 20:41.32 | parpar | when we will see an integrated experience both kde apps and gnome apps? |
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| 20:41.48 | pinotree | parpar: ? |
| 20:42.33 | transMIssion | half-left: well as quite a noob that i am, it would be better to use fedora :) Thx for the info |
| 20:43.17 | gkr | There is any kde4's konversation atm ? |
| 20:43.40 | miboo | i am trying to get into a kde4 conversation |
| 20:43.43 | miboo | is there any kde4 web editor |
| 20:43.45 | pinotree | gkr: we're at 1.2alpha3 |
| 20:44.10 | gkr | So, need bug report, isn't it ? |
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| 20:44.30 | Half-Left | transMIssion: Generally 512mb of ram is the minimum and graphics with good 2d render speed. KDE4 makes use of it. |
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| 20:45.56 | mtelesha | Never can get korganizer writing to Google Calendar |
| 20:46.10 | Capitanquartz | Hi. My english is not very good. Sorry :( I need send a message by kopete in console. I'm watching dbus, but i don't know send a message by kopete in dbus... |
| 20:46.15 | Capitanquartz | I need help. |
| 20:46.19 | Capitanquartz | Thanks you. |
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| 20:47.13 | parpar | >why not kde 4.2.4 and not gnome 2.46? |
| 20:47.27 | transMIssion | half-left: well the laptop doesn't have more... how much has your pc? |
| 20:47.42 | Half-Left | 4Gb :) |
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| 20:48.07 | transMIssion | half-left: do you ever use all of it? |
| 20:48.15 | Half-Left | Oh yes |
| 20:48.25 | transMIssion | what are you doing? |
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| 20:48.37 | Half-Left | I do alot of graphic art, compiling |
| 20:48.40 | cghislai | parpar: how do you write in italic? :) |
| 20:48.44 | Capitanquartz | I see this manual: http://krischer.org/linux/shorties/dbus/kopete |
| 20:48.56 | Half-Left | 64bit |
| 20:49.07 | Capitanquartz | but, i don't see how i can send a message by dbus. |
| 20:49.08 | parpar | >why kde 4.2.4 and not gnome 2.46? |
| 20:49.15 | Half-Left | Ram is cheap nodays |
| 20:49.18 | parpar | sorry error in question |
| 20:49.19 | transMIssion | pretty cool... but only 4 GB if you have 64 bit? |
| 20:49.23 | Ace2017_- | Half-Left: what app do you use for graphics? |
| 20:49.23 | Half-Left | Now days* |
| 20:49.46 | Half-Left | Ace2017_-: Inkscape, GIMP |
| 20:50.23 | Ace2017_- | gimp hogs a lot of memory |
| 20:50.28 | gkr | I can't get used to inkscape |
| 20:50.46 | Half-Left | Not really, but it can use it on big designs |
| 20:50.48 | Ace2017_- | inkscape has the best interface i've ever used, going back to illustrator was very hard |
| 20:51.04 | transMIssion | maybe that doesn't fit in here but: do you really do professional work with the gimp? |
| 20:51.06 | Ace2017_- | its as if illustrator was designed by a clown with only one mouse button ;) |
| 20:51.10 | gkr | I need a bigger layer manager |
| 20:51.18 | Half-Left | I've had Inkscape use 800mb of memory :p |
| 20:51.24 | Ace2017_- | what idiot came up with Space+left click to move the canvas :/ |
| 20:52.03 | gkr | I'm not doing such complicated stuff >_< |
| 20:52.36 | gkr | doesn't know that the spacebar change the click behavior in illustrator. |
| 20:52.58 | Half-Left | Well if you look at the Egpyian cards in 4.3, you'll see it's rather complicated :) |
| 20:53.03 | Ace2017_- | it does, it was made for the mac and i now hate apple for going with the single mouse button design |
| 20:53.15 | szal | Ace2017_-: as for the clown I don't know, but w/ one mouse button you could be up to something.. iirc Illustrator comes from the Mac ;) |
| 20:53.33 | gkr | today apple mouse have 2 button. And this disturb me... |
| 20:53.40 | ld50 | parpar: integrated? i mean style ? |
| 20:54.03 | Ace2017_- | sometimes i wonder if apples are made for idiots |
| 20:54.04 | Half-Left | Egyptian* |
| 20:54.25 | gkr | I've understand, no problem. I'm going to give it a look |
| 20:54.29 | parpar | ld50: yes |
| 20:55.02 | parpar | i want to wake up one day and have a window management integrated so i dont have to go thru the pain of chosing if gnome is better than kde and vice versa |
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| 20:55.04 | gkr | And why lskat and kpatience are not in the same apps ? |
| 20:55.40 | Half-Left | They're different card games |
| 20:57.05 | gkr | that why I'm asking. kpatience have a dozen of card game, and beside, there is lskat :-\ |
| 20:57.38 | Half-Left | They work different, Kpat has different types of card games. lskat has a totally different layout |
| 20:58.33 | gkr | grandfather clock too. |
| 20:58.42 | gkr | But ok for this explanation ^___^ |
| 20:59.26 | Half-Left | I know what I mean :p |
| 20:59.43 | Half-Left | I see why they need to be separate anyway |
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| 21:00.10 | Pnux | is there a way to start kde ignoring the saved session? |
| 21:00.31 | gkr | And kde have nothing more than karbon14 for vector image ? |
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| 21:01.54 | Half-Left | That's about it yeah |
| 21:02.04 | gkr | what a shame... |
| 21:02.17 | Half-Left | They're complicated apps |
| 21:02.30 | gkr | I suppose |
| 21:02.36 | Traveler7 | hi, will kde 4.3 have something to manage wifi and networks? (e.g. that cool plasmoid)... knetworkmanager from kde3 doesn't work from months :( ...and neither does wpa_supplicant :( |
| 21:02.54 | gkr | I'm using wpa_supplicant |
| 21:03.08 | gkr | with a very cool daemon from arch |
| 21:03.12 | einar77 | Traveler7: an applet exists |
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| 21:03.24 | einar77 | it's been broken inside out recently due to design changes |
| 21:03.26 | einar77 | though |
| 21:04.54 | Traveler7 | gkr here wpa_supplicant doesn't find the wifi card :-/ |
| 21:05.04 | gkr | oh |
| 21:05.14 | gkr | that is a problem |
| 21:05.33 | InforMed | Pnux: System Settings - advanced - Session manager (My kde isn't in English so I'm trying to translate :) |
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| 21:06.25 | gkr | InforMed, Pnux: very good translation. I've the same, with an english kde |
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| 21:06.44 | joshuajtl | can i set the pop up window that asks what to do with new media detected to single click? |
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| 21:07.26 | InforMed | gkr: :) |
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| 21:13.52 | Pnux | InforMed, gkr: thanks, but that wasnt it.. however, because of that i could find where it was.. K -> System -> KDE Components -> Session manager |
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| 21:18.43 | knap | ciao a tutti |
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| 21:19.43 | knap | http://pastebin.com/m2ef37ba5 |
| 21:19.57 | knap | http://pastebin.com/m25170691 |
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| 21:23.05 | szal | knap: some explanatory words wouldn't hurt |
| 21:25.39 | gkr | look like failing compiling. |
| 21:25.40 | knap | I have problems with installing kde 4.3 svn considering my current distro debian sid + experimental kde 4.2 repository |
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| 21:26.20 | gkr | [troll on]for cutting edge apps, use another distro[troll off] |
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| 21:39.45 | puchu | hi |
| 21:40.11 | gkr | hi |
| 21:40.45 | puchu | kmail crashes everytime a try to open a folder a folder named foo why generating the index of the folder ... is there a way to generate the index by hand? i use the MAIL dir format ... |
| 21:40.53 | puchu | hi gkr |
| 21:41.02 | puchu | why=while |
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| 21:41.32 | gkr | I don't use kmail, sorry |
| 21:43.36 | szal | has been using Maildir format w/ KMail for 4 years or so, not a single problem w/ it ever (except for failing to be imported into Evolution :P) |
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| 21:44.26 | puchu | szal for me it worked for about 6 years by now .. but now the first prob |
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| 21:45.45 | LeNsTR|Sleep | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4" |
| 21:45.50 | LeNsTR|Sleep | really?) |
| 21:46.10 | gkr | delete this one is an easy problem solver |
| 21:46.22 | gkr | but not really clever, and time waster |
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| 21:47.31 | LeNsTR|Sleep | but some bugs... |
| 21:47.56 | LeNsTR|Sleep | 4.2.x -> 4.3.x |
| 21:48.08 | deco | i use alpine for emails :-) |
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| 21:48.59 | LeNsTR|Sleep | (-: |
| 21:49.19 | gkr | :-) |
| 21:49.27 | gkr | arf... |
| 21:49.43 | deco | who here uses alpine ? |
| 21:49.45 | gkr | I get a smiley on the other side :-$ |
| 21:49.59 | deco | (-: |
| 21:50.55 | gkr | I'm using browser for mail. As long as I'm student, using my laptop or school computer, it's way more comfortable. |
| 21:51.34 | LeNsTR|Sleep | gmail ^_^ |
| 21:51.38 | gkr | yep |
| 21:51.39 | deco | gkr: i hate gui for emails, they are just bloatware |
| 21:51.48 | deco | i use gmail with alpine |
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| 21:52.07 | gkr | If |
| 21:52.27 | gkr | gmail in konqueror is just pain in *ss... |
| 21:52.34 | deco | just text all i need . i don't need to see peoples silly signetures, :-) |
| 21:52.49 | gkr | ^_^ |
| 21:53.18 | gkr | I'm reading from times to times some games newsletter. they love images |
| 21:53.50 | deco | if you really want to see the images you still can with alpine you'll just have to open them in a new window |
| 21:53.53 | LeNsTR|Sleep | konqueror + kwebkit |
| 21:54.22 | deco | konqueror no thanks you, iceweasel for me :P |
| 21:54.29 | deco | thank* |
| 21:55.08 | gkr | I like konqueror. But I play some browser game complaining for no flash-plugin |
| 21:55.37 | deco | yeah... that's why i do not use it |
| 21:55.54 | gkr | I suppose that iceweasel is far better than firefox ? |
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| 21:56.00 | deco | same thing |
| 21:56.06 | deco | just different artwork and name |
| 21:56.20 | gkr | artwork ? there is no skin on firefox ? |
| 21:56.31 | deco | by artwork i mean the maskot |
| 21:56.38 | gkr | k |
| 21:56.38 | deco | the weasel holding the world |
| 21:56.55 | gkr | nothing change inside ? |
| 21:57.38 | deco | well every distro changes something to their liking |
| 21:57.49 | deco | but it's essentially the same |
| 21:57.55 | gkr | k |
| 21:58.14 | gkr | like firefox in archlinux. named gran paradisio |
| 21:58.21 | deco | yep |
| 21:58.45 | gkr | don't seem to be any iceweasel in archlinux repo... |
| 21:58.54 | deco | it's only for debian |
| 21:59.03 | gkr | oh |
| 21:59.12 | gkr | it's why I've seen it on ubuntu |
| 21:59.35 | gkr | not on ubuntu... maybe puppy... strange. |
| 22:00.04 | gkr | I'm confusing myself ^~^ |
| 22:00.18 | deco | using iceweasel 3.0.11 its the same as the latest firefox |
| 22:00.59 | gkr | version number are pretty close ^__^ |
| 22:01.11 | deco | not close, it's the same |
| 22:01.21 | gkr | that what I mean. |
| 22:01.26 | deco | no |
| 22:01.38 | gkr | u_u" |
| 22:01.49 | gkr | need to work my english... |
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| 22:02.01 | deco | what's your native language? |
| 22:02.08 | gkr | french |
| 22:02.16 | deco | oh |
| 22:02.21 | deco | salut! |
| 22:02.32 | gkr | ^__^ |
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| 22:03.05 | deco | j'adore le debian :P |
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| 22:04.11 | gkr | I'm not feeling right to speak french here... |
| 22:04.46 | deco | i know.. just testing my french :P |
| 22:04.52 | gkr | oh |
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| 22:05.50 | gkr | that explain why "le debian" seem not right to me ^_^ |
| 22:06.05 | deco | lfranchi: are you an amarok developer? |
| 22:06.10 | deco | gkr: oh lol |
| 22:08.04 | szal | Iceweasel is purely Debian & derivatives.. but I've heard that Archlinux Firefox is also modified as far as the branding is concerned |
| 22:08.25 | szal | not that I'd care much; I don't use FF |
| 22:08.30 | gkr | archlinux use development name as far as I know |
| 22:08.38 | deco | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:08.50 | szal | mostly Seamonkey |
| 22:08.57 | deco | oh |
| 22:09.43 | deco | iceweasel/firefox and opera,safari,ie , when doing web development |
| 22:10.33 | gkr | I've get 6 browser on my feu windows |
| 22:10.45 | gkr | *I'd got |
| 22:10.51 | szal | but Seamonkey still seems to leak memory, I can't leave it running for extended periods of time |
| 22:11.37 | deco | szal: all mozilla browsers leak memory :P |
| 22:11.41 | lfranchi | deco: yes |
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| 22:12.01 | deco | lfranchi: please go back to the old amarok :-( |
| 22:12.13 | gkr | why ? |
| 22:12.26 | deco | amarok2 is just an itunes clone now |
| 22:12.27 | mokoloko | amarok 2.1 is awesome |
| 22:12.34 | gkr | there is still many bug, but it's okay |
| 22:12.37 | lfranchi | hah |
| 22:12.45 | lfranchi | amarok 2 may be many things, good and bad |
| 22:12.46 | mokoloko | tehy dont even look remotetly alike |
| 22:12.50 | lfranchi | but an itunes clone it is not :P |
| 22:12.59 | deco | :P |
| 22:13.00 | gkr | and mac user complain about the collection view. So it's not itunes |
| 22:13.00 | szal | Amarok isn't my cup of tea |
| 22:13.09 | szal | too many functions I don't need |
| 22:13.22 | gkr | dragon is a good player |
| 22:13.26 | szal | mpd and Audacious do their jobs wonderfully |
| 22:13.31 | deco | mplayer in cli is awesome |
| 22:13.33 | gkr | but not really for music |
| 22:13.35 | szal | DragonPlayer is a video player |
| 22:13.48 | mokoloko | juk is simple music player |
| 22:14.08 | deco | lfranchi: than i shall live in the past :P |
| 22:14.34 | szal | for music, mpd mostly does the job & doesn't need a GUI (there are some, but I use a CLI client) |
| 22:14.35 | lfranchi | we're not trying to convert users who use mplayer to play their music :P |
| 22:14.52 | gkr | a daemon audio player should be something new ^_^ |
| 22:15.05 | szal | gkr: it isn't |
| 22:15.19 | szal | gkr: as I said, mpd, it's been around for quite a while now |
| 22:15.33 | szal | gkr: or, if you like a different flavour, try Xmms2 |
| 22:15.54 | deco | lfranchi: ouch:P , that's what you guys made me use now :P |
| 22:16.00 | gkr | k. I've used moc when I've installed arch |
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| 22:16.25 | szal | isn't moc a build tool? |
| 22:16.33 | gkr | not this on |
| 22:16.38 | gkr | music on console |
| 22:16.53 | Losowski | Hi...I love KDE 4.24 so far...can anyone tell me, how I can get tht little orange acorn on the top-right back on my desktop..it disappeared...thanks |
| 22:16.58 | szal | mpd, the Music Player Daemon |
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| 22:17.02 | gkr | btw, the binary is named mocp, for player q-: |
| 22:17.25 | mokoloko | Losowski: add I hate cashew plasmoid |
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| 22:17.44 | Losowski | mokoloko: How do I add that? |
| 22:17.45 | gkr | plasmoid are cool |
| 22:18.00 | gkr | and I need to give a look on mpd |
| 22:18.01 | mokoloko | like you add any other plasmoid |
| 22:18.11 | Losowski | mokoloko: I never added a plasmoid |
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| 22:18.18 | Losowski | If I knew, I wouldn't ask |
| 22:18.24 | zeehermes | hi - i am using kgraphviewer to view .dot files ... anybody here familiar with the tool ? |
| 22:18.32 | mokoloko | try it's easy |
| 22:18.44 | mokoloko | shouldn't take too long to get it |
| 22:18.48 | Losowski | mokoloko: No possibility of explaining? |
| 22:19.01 | mokoloko | start with right click |
| 22:19.06 | mokoloko | on the desktop |
| 22:19.12 | Losowski | ok |
| 22:19.20 | mokoloko | Losowski: just being lazy :P |
| 22:19.36 | Losowski | add widget? |
| 22:19.39 | mokoloko | yeah |
| 22:19.53 | Losowski | I tried that before...but I don't see any cashew widget |
| 22:20.08 | gkr | szal: there is any good tips to know about mpd ? |
| 22:20.12 | mokoloko | what distro? |
| 22:20.46 | deco | anyone know where to download a tarball of the old amarok ? |
| 22:20.56 | mokoloko | try searching ihatecashew or plasm(oid)a package |
| 22:21.08 | szal | gkr: not really.. the config file is very well commented |
| 22:21.32 | gkr | no magical app to make playlist ? |
| 22:22.27 | gkr | and how are named home conf file for mpd ? .mpdrc ? |
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| 22:25.32 | Rasi | is there a dbus command to disable composite? |
| 22:25.37 | Rasi | or something else from a terminal |
| 22:28.31 | szal | gkr: /etc/mpd.conf |
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| 22:30.57 | gkr | szal: yep, but it's system wide. |
| 22:31.10 | gkr | this will be enough for a laptop ^_^ |
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| 22:33.58 | o_a | Hi |
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| 22:35.04 | o_a | A proccess called "nepomukservicestub" is using about 50% of the CPU (dual core) |
| 22:35.11 | o_a | Is this normal? |
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| 22:46.12 | Ch1ppy | hey, I accidentally added a word to my dictionary in kopete and want to take it out of the dictionary... how do I do this? |
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| 22:49.34 | pinotree | system settings â country & language â spell checker |
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| 22:51.59 | o_a | :| |
| 22:52.08 | Ch1ppy | pinotree: I tried... it's empty |
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| 22:52.16 | o_a | The system turned off due to high temperature |
| 22:52.35 | o_a | What's the problem with nepomuk? |
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| 22:53.03 | o_a | This started after I made some tags and tagged some files |
| 22:53.31 | o_a | Sometimes, suddenly, nepomuk's CPU usage goes 50% |
| 22:53.49 | o_a | Any idea? |
| 22:53.51 | o_a | Someone? |
| 22:55.41 | gkr | not any. |
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| 22:55.51 | gkr | never used nepomuk |
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| 22:57.39 | o_a | :( |
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| 22:59.48 | gkr | what the top command is telling about high proc usage ? |
| 22:59.54 | gkr | o_a: ? |
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| 23:04.42 | o_a | Not top, gkr, but ksysguard itself |
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| 23:04.55 | o_a | Oh, it started again |
| 23:05.01 | gkr | I prefer top, from a console |
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| 23:06.11 | gkr | But it tell about nepomuk using a whole cpu ? |
| 23:06.23 | gkr | (very bas english) |
| 23:06.27 | gkr | *bad |
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| 23:06.55 | gkr | what tell "sudo fuser "path/to/tagged/file" ? |
| 23:08.24 | zc00gii | how do I move a plasma panel? |
| 23:08.31 | zc00gii | like, move it from the bottom to the top |
| 23:08.58 | gkr | unlock plasmoid |
| 23:09.08 | gkr | click on the plasma icon from the panel |
| 23:09.34 | gkr | and use the «screen edge» "grip" |
| 23:09.53 | gkr | or button, and don't know what this screen edge is |
| 23:10.14 | zc00gii | thank |
| 23:10.41 | zc00gii | thanks |
| 23:10.53 | gkr | no problem ^_^ |
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| 23:12.31 | gkr | so o_a ? |
| 23:12.41 | gkr | find something on nepomuk ? |
| 23:12.58 | o_a | The connection was down |
| 23:13.11 | o_a | 100% on top |
| 23:13.18 | o_a | 50% on KSysGuard |
| 23:13.35 | gkr | I've 100% from time to time with firefox |
| 23:13.42 | gkr | and fuser ? |
| 23:13.55 | o_a | But is all the time in my case |
| 23:14.02 | gkr | any app use the tagged file ? |
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| 23:14.19 | o_a | I don't know |
| 23:14.24 | o_a | I tagged several files |
| 23:14.35 | o_a | Almost all of my videos |
| 23:14.47 | gkr | fuser return pid of app using a given file |
| 23:14.48 | o_a | Many of my pictures |
| 23:14.58 | o_a | Oh, OK |
| 23:15.14 | gkr | it'll tell you if an app is doing some esoteric stuff with your movies |
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| 23:15.31 | o_a | Let's pick a image |
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| 23:16.41 | o_a | Cool, Dolphin is also not opening |
| 23:17.10 | gkr | not cool at all here... |
| 23:17.13 | joshuajtl | can i set the pop up window that asks what to do with new media detected to single click? |
| 23:17.44 | o_a | luizromario@romario-laptop:~$ dolphin |
| 23:17.45 | o_a | <unknown program name>(6624)/: Communication problem with "dolphin" , it probably crashed. |
| 23:17.45 | o_a | Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." " |
| 23:17.45 | o_a | luizromario@romario-laptop:~$ "/usr/bin/dolphin(6625)" Error in thread 140434235316048 : "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply - Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." |
| 23:17.48 | Phateth | Is there a viable alternative to the network manager plasmoid, can't connect to a WPA2 network and gather in the early stages it wouldn't be 100% functional, i thought about installing knetworkmanager but that dependant on kdelibs and being capped causes a minor issue |
| 23:17.56 | gkr | joshuajtl: might you rephrase your question ? I don't understand. |
| 23:18.50 | gkr | Phateth: have you try wpa_supplicant ? |
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| 23:19.09 | o_a | luizromario@romario-laptop:~/Romário/Imagens/Aniversário de Paula (2009)$ fuser DSC01742.JPG |
| 23:19.09 | o_a | luizromario@romario-laptop:~/Romário/Imagens/Aniversário de Paula (2009)$ |
| 23:19.14 | Phateth | i'm after a gui tool, i'd like to avoid going via the cli |
| 23:19.17 | o_a | gkr, it returns nothing |
| 23:19.21 | joshuajtl | gkr when you pop in a cd, dvd, memory card... a window pops up asking what to do... open with dolphin, open with image viewer etc... then one has to double click whatever they want... id like to single click |
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| 23:20.12 | gkr | joshuajtl: oh. I'll pass on this one. I hope you will get a solution |
| 23:20.21 | gkr | o_a: this mean that nothing use this image. |
| 23:21.32 | joshuajtl | ok |
| 23:21.35 | gkr | o_a: have you try to kill through top the process ? |
| 23:21.36 | gkr | Phateth: I like wpa_supplicant cause you don't need to get your hand dirty when it's setup |
| 23:22.10 | o_a | If I kill it, everything goes normal again |
| 23:22.19 | Phateth | Yeah but i have multiple networks i access because i'm always moving, i mean it would solve using my home network but generally if im at home i can just use my main pc |
| 23:22.20 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: do you have kde to act on single klick generaly or dubbleclick, like when opening folders and stuff? |
| 23:22.32 | o_a | But will I have to kill it everytime I log on? |
| 23:22.37 | gkr | Phateth: or it's because I've a daemon using it for me. |
| 23:22.42 | joshuajtl | lilltiger: single click |
| 23:22.44 | Phateth | heh |
| 23:22.50 | o_a | And I want to use Nepomuk |
| 23:23.05 | Phateth | Eh i'll just write up an app to use wpa_supplicant as a backend, ty |
| 23:23.16 | gkr | o_a: there is any log of nepomuk saying something ? |
| 23:23.22 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: hmm, kde 3 or kde 4? |
| 23:23.29 | joshuajtl | lilltiger: kde4 |
| 23:23.42 | o_a | Dunno, gkr |
| 23:23.43 | gkr | Phateth: make a search on the archlinux wiki, for autowifi |
| 23:23.54 | o_a | I'll look for it through .kde |
| 23:24.23 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: hang on, i have to try it :) |
| 23:24.27 | gkr | Phateth: I'm using it, and even with really bad wifi, it does the work pretty well |
| 23:24.58 | gkr | o_a: could it be an "not finding the index" issue ? |
| 23:25.03 | Phateth | ah, theres an idea, ty |
| 23:25.26 | gkr | Phateth: no problem. knowledge are made to be shared |
| 23:25.36 | joshuajtl | k |
| 23:26.05 | o_a | I don't think so, gkr |
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| 23:26.41 | o_a | If I kill that proccess, Dolphin opens and shows the tags normally |
| 23:27.17 | gkr | I know kde have refuse to trash anything before I set an index file for nepomuk... Or something I've do at the same time. |
| 23:27.20 | o_a | After the proccess load again, probably |
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| 23:27.58 | gkr | look at this. If it's not loading after, you can try to kill it in a script at start-up |
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| 23:29.08 | o_a | It won't work, gkr |
| 23:29.23 | gkr | because ? |
| 23:29.23 | o_a | it does not start with 50% CPU usage |
| 23:29.31 | gkr | oh... |
| 23:29.45 | gkr | and I suppose it's every time another process... |
| 23:30.03 | o_a | And the proccess starts again if I open Dolphin |
| 23:30.14 | gkr | strange... |
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| 23:30.25 | o_a | Not actually |
| 23:30.39 | o_a | That is probably what manages the tags |
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| 23:31.19 | gkr | yep, but... |
| 23:31.42 | o_a | As Dolphin must show them, it is a dependency |
| 23:32.28 | gkr | at least, you can make a script which use pkill to stop the process, and put this one on the desktop. |
| 23:32.30 | o_a | It is calm now, but, eventually, it will become CPU-hungry again |
| 23:32.30 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: dosent going well my cd is refusing to work at all ;D |
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| 23:32.42 | joshuajtl | yikes |
| 23:32.42 | gkr | or in your path |
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| 23:33.12 | o_a | :| |
| 23:33.51 | o_a | It is not necessary |
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| 23:34.25 | o_a | Ctrl + Esc, select the most CPU-hungry proccess and kill it is not much more difficult |
| 23:34.52 | gkr | I'm not using this one u_u" |
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| 23:35.18 | gkr | ctrl+alt+F1, top, killing the big mouth problem |
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| 23:37.15 | lilltiger | o_a: if you dont want nepomuk just disable it in the system settings services meny |
| 23:37.32 | gkr | it's the problem |
| 23:37.40 | gkr | he want it |
| 23:37.43 | lilltiger | ahh |
| 23:38.24 | lilltiger | then he can set it's nice to 18 or something like that |
| 23:38.40 | gkr | and there is a processor eater process hiding in this on. |
| 23:39.18 | gkr | reducing the process priority ? good idea |
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| 23:40.06 | lilltiger | hmm now if i just could figure out why my cd wont work at all |
| 23:41.51 | gkr | I'll go to sleep. good luck |
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| 23:50.45 | o_a | lilltiger, do you know whether this is a bug or a configuration problem? |
| 23:51.25 | o_a | And where I can find nepomuk's logs? |
| 23:52.42 | lilltiger | o_a: i dont know, i have nepomuk turned of |
| 23:53.02 | o_a | Hm... |
| 23:53.05 | o_a | OK |
| 23:53.17 | o_a | Just for others to know: |
| 23:53.22 | o_a | Kubuntu 9.04 |
| 23:53.24 | o_a | + |
| 23:53.32 | o_a | KDE 4.2.90 |
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| 23:57.26 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: seems like my cd dosent like being used in an AHCI env at all :( so i cant test it |
| 23:57.42 | lilltiger | will have to reboot to fix that and well i dont like rebooting :p |
| 23:57.44 | joshuajtl | how about a usb drive or something else |
| 23:58.14 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: usb for me pops up in the Device plasmoid |
| 23:58.33 | joshuajtl | lilltiger: right, then click on it |
| 23:59.52 | lilltiger | joshuajtl: then dolphins opens up right away |