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| 01:40.39 | dnascimento | hi all, I want to make kosd detect caps lock on/off. Can anybody suggest me the better approach ? |
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| 02:37.22 | melik | whats a good photomanager? |
| 02:41.21 | zulu9 | melik: gwenview is nice and digikam for kde4 is on a good path but not ready for real world use yet |
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| 02:45.48 | melik | thanks zulu9 |
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| 02:46.16 | melik | i'll stick to gwenview, digikam seems pretty bloated |
| 02:46.50 | zulu9 | if you want a nice and simple photo manager gwenview probably is perfect for you |
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| 02:48.24 | melik | yeah, gwenview is amazing! |
| 02:48.43 | melik | i love the full screen view |
| 02:49.59 | zulu9 | I really like it too. and the kde4 version is really shiny |
| 02:52.50 | melik | zulu9, i just have one last question, printscreen doesn't work :/ |
| 02:53.06 | melik | what package is needed to do a screencap |
| 02:53.24 | zulu9 | melik: ksnapshot is a really nice app to do screenshots |
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| 02:53.48 | melik | yeah i have that, 'printscreen' doesn't work :/ |
| 02:53.57 | melik | does it have a special folder where it saves the files |
| 02:54.15 | zulu9 | melik: run it from the menu |
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| 02:54.38 | zulu9 | it has some options like timed screenshots, only taking a particular area of the screen etc |
| 02:55.19 | zulu9 | you select all the options and when you tell it to take the screenshot it will hide. afterwards you can copy the result to the clipboard or save to an image file |
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| 02:55.49 | zulu9 | you probably can assign a global shortcut to it so it starts when you press that key. did not try that yet |
| 02:55.52 | melik | ah i see.. i'll just set up a shortcut key for it |
| 02:56.01 | melik | yep thats what im doing rihgt now ;P |
| 02:56.15 | zulu9 | cool. be sure to report back ;) |
| 02:56.20 | melik | i used to be a hardcore KDE hater |
| 02:56.36 | melik | but KDE 4.2 is amazing :$ |
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| 02:58.51 | zulu9 | yes. the devs did a really good job. looking forward to 4.3. from what I saw on the blogs etc yet it will be even more awesome |
| 02:59.39 | melik | yeah gnome dev team is really slow compared to KDE |
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| 03:00.17 | White_Pelican | so you mean kde 4 will actually work then? |
| 03:00.21 | White_Pelican | hehe |
| 03:00.25 | White_Pelican | j/k |
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| 03:00.49 | yitz_ | Does KDE by default have some sort of screen locking mechanism |
| 03:00.52 | yitz_ | ? |
| 03:01.40 | melik | k yeah zulu9, set the global shortcut key |
| 03:01.42 | melik | works great ;D |
| 03:02.27 | zulu9 | nice |
| 03:02.58 | zulu9 | yitz_: yes. the option to lock the screen should be available in the menu |
| 03:03.26 | zulu9 | not sure if this function is in an extra package. that might depend on your distribution. |
| 03:03.26 | yitz_ | zulu9: Any clue what the lock program would be called so I can trigger it on the CLI? |
| 03:03.43 | oneforall | hmm why is it when I open kusers it only shows 1 thing selected users. but not all the rest that theusers has already |
| 03:03.47 | oneforall | kde4 |
| 03:03.50 | yitz_ | I'm on the EeePc with a rather... limited version of kde |
| 03:05.15 | zulu9 | yitz_: qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock |
| 03:05.38 | yitz_ | Thanks |
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| 03:12.32 | carranca | can anyone recomend a good program to view tv using v4l? all projects that I found seem outdated |
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| 03:22.27 | oneforall | mythtv ? |
| 03:23.14 | carranca | i saw that, i may installit later, but it seems like to bloated, like for putting it on a separate device... |
| 03:24.35 | oneforall | xawtv .mplayer |
| 03:26.24 | drantin | tvtime |
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| 03:29.55 | carranca | i see a lot of people recomending tvtime... but its latest release is from 2005 :P |
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| 03:40.54 | Scoobaspeaz | i know this has probably been asked many times...any idea when kontrol panel will be back in kde 4? |
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| 03:43.52 | luke-jr | Scoobaspeaz: there never has been a 'kontrol panel' in KDE |
| 03:44.20 | Scoobaspeaz | what was it called then.. |
| 03:44.32 | Scoobaspeaz | what im thinking of was the main control panel in kde 3 |
| 03:45.31 | luke-jr | KControl? |
| 03:47.02 | Scoobaspeaz | not to be rude, but i do have a question, if the only thing i typed wrong was i didnt put a "c" after the K when i spelled Kontrol panel...why didnt you just answer the question and say "btw its KControl panel you are looking for"? |
| 03:47.23 | luke-jr | there's no 'panel' |
| 03:48.15 | Scoobaspeaz | are there plans for it to be included in kde 4? |
| 03:48.15 | Scoobaspeaz | i do miss it for some reason :) |
| 03:48.15 | drantin | carranca: tvtime is still awesome 4 years later, and there are patches from third parties at www.stapelspeicher.org/tvtime/patches/ |
| 03:49.18 | oneforall | yeah some things there aint really nothing new to do . some libs that are super old too but gone as far as they can but still needed:9) |
| 03:49.54 | oneforall | other than a patch to fit the newer multilib,gcc . but nothing new |
| 03:50.15 | oneforall | kinda like the wheel |
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| 04:59.30 | sunru | hi |
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| 04:59.53 | sunru | webkit in konqueror? I want to test Safari's rendering of pages, would konqueror suffice? |
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| 05:01.28 | LucasN | Hi. I've just installed KDE 4.2.2 from the Debian unstable repository. Everything works fine, except for the keyboard auto-repeat. I've configured auto-repeat in xorg.conf, but KDE seems to ignore it. There is no such option in System Settings' Keyboard & Mouse. How can I fix it? |
| 05:01.44 | aseigo | sunru: mostly yes... the kpart to make that happen is still in trunk/playground/libs/ though |
| 05:02.49 | aseigo | LucasN: i see it at the top of the first page on tha tcontrol panel |
| 05:02.57 | aseigo | "Keyboard Repeat" |
| 05:03.31 | sunru | righto |
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| 05:07.14 | LucasN | aseigo: I can't see this option... Is there any config file, where I can set it manually? |
| 05:07.59 | aseigo | hrmmm.. i think it just sets the values in x.. let me look though |
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| 05:08.49 | aseigo | LucasN: and if you don't have those settings .. maybe your distro removed them from the control panel for some odd reason? hm. doesn't mke much sense though.. maybe it was added after 4.2? that would surprise me though |
| 05:10.33 | aseigo | LucasN: yes, it doest just set the x setting.. but it does record the settings made (if any) by the user in `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/config/kcminputrc |
| 05:10.51 | aseigo | LucasN: in the [Keyboard] group |
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| 05:11.06 | aseigo | RepeatRate=<some number> |
| 05:11.13 | aseigo | RepeatDelay=<some number> |
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| 05:11.26 | LucasN | aseigo: Should this option be in the "Keyboard & Mouse" configuration? It's odd that the only pages in this config are "Mouse", "Joystick", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts" and "Global Keyboard Shortcuts"... Shouldn't there be a "Keyboard" page? |
| 05:11.26 | aseigo | KeyboardRepeating=<true or false> |
| 05:11.38 | aseigo | yes, there should be |
| 05:11.40 | aseigo | and here i have one :) |
| 05:11.44 | aseigo | with those settings in it |
| 05:12.31 | LucasN | aseigo: Strange... maybe the Debian guys took it off for some reason |
| 05:12.51 | aseigo | and yeah, this has been there since 4.0 (just looked at the svn log) |
| 05:13.02 | aseigo | maybe. you should ask them ... |
| 05:13.08 | LucasN | aseigo: I'll try to edit this kcminputrc. Thanks! |
| 05:13.28 | aseigo | perhaps it doesn't work with whatever xkb stuff they are using? if so, they should let us know (if they haven't already) so it can be fixed |
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| 05:20.01 | LucasN | Well, I've modified that file, I'll restart KDE to see if that works. Thanks! |
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| 05:25.19 | BottledWaterIsPo | Is it possible to get the oxygen/white border theme from KDE 4.x under KDE 3.x? |
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| 06:06.52 | ghabit | Hello. Is it possible to use sites like docs.google.com with konqueror? |
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| 06:10.16 | myrick[on] | Hi Guys .. anyone know why there isn't window decorations in kcontrol after installing dekorator ? |
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| 06:35.17 | clancy | hi |
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| 06:36.15 | clancy | is it possible to have a preview of all images a have on my pc in digikam(KDE3)? (like in picasa, if you know this app) |
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| 06:39.17 | clancy | o.O |
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| 06:42.16 | clancy | like this |
| 06:42.19 | clancy | http://www.easylinux.de/Artikel/ausgabe/2006/08/064-picasa/picasa03.png |
| 06:42.48 | clancy | i can just scroll through the different directories without opening a special directory on the left |
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| 06:43.32 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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| 06:50.14 | clancy | no idea? |
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| 07:45.57 | Dumble | where are stored all mime-type <=> application information in KDE ? when I open a directory or clic on a device in the "new device" applet, it alway ask me with what program I wan to open it... :s |
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| 07:48.53 | Dumble | (I just migrated from KDE 4.2.1 to KDE 4.2.2 in Gentoo) |
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| 08:18.50 | pvandewyngaerde | is there a volume control per phonon category ? |
| 08:18.50 | RizR | any way to use gnome applets in kde4.x? |
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| 08:27.39 | comawhite|Aki | RizR: I doubt it |
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| 08:42.12 | RizR | comawhite|Aki, Thanks. |
| 08:42.44 | comawhite|Aki | np |
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| 08:45.40 | RizR | another one :-) |
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| 08:46.24 | RizR | 1. I still haven't found a way to either stretch wallpaper across all monitors connected to a computer (2 in my case). any way to do that? |
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| 08:46.24 | RizR | and |
| 08:46.57 | RizR | 2. Can we set wallpaper from other apps (such as dolphin -> right click on an image -> set as wallpaper) |
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| 08:49.53 | aspect | initiates aptitude upgrade for kde4.2.2 |
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| 08:50.50 | aspect | any gotchas I should know about first? I've been watching the mailing list, but apart from keeping a backup of .kde in case tshtf there doesn't seem to be any implied caution |
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| 09:08.37 | myrick[on] | Hi Guys .. why isn't there anymore a Menu Item: "Window Decoration" after installing Dekorator on kde 3.5 |
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| 09:41.36 | FernandoLB | Hello. Is it possible to make PAGER (task bar) to get in the left of the task bar ? |
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| 09:51.57 | FernandoLB | When I add any widgets, they all get in the right side of the task bar... I'd like the pager next to K menu. |
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| 09:55.05 | dzen | is there a kde developper channel please ? |
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| 09:57.00 | dzen | #kde-devel |
| 09:57.03 | dzen | okay thanks :) |
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| 10:01.06 | yao_ziyuan | again that issue: press <Meta> + <+> to zoom in the screen |
| 10:01.06 | yao_ziyuan | (assume you have enabled the Zoom accessibility desktop effect) |
| 10:01.18 | yao_ziyuan | and you will find a window's four corners are dirty |
| 10:01.18 | yao_ziyuan | they're intended to indicate sizing handles |
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| 10:29.22 | ziroday | Hi, I've just rebooted, lost all my settings and have no panel. Any help? |
| 10:30.37 | ziroday | getting my panel back would be nice |
| 10:31.56 | Moult | is anybody noticing any skew with firefox and compositing on in kde? (i'm running kde 4.2.69, nvidia drivers 185.19 |
| 10:33.03 | Moult | Like as soon as I turn on compositing, the firefox window doesn't refresh itself. |
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| 10:37.41 | ShashankSingh | Moult :btw there is a uodated Nvidia driver |
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| 10:38.01 | Moult | ShashankSingh: newer than 185.19? |
| 10:38.08 | ShashankSingh | Moult : i saw it release ntoes ,they fixed a lot of bugs ,you should try updating |
| 10:38.16 | Moult | ShashankSingh: what's the version? |
| 10:38.26 | ShashankSingh | lemme confirm |
| 10:38.47 | ShashankSingh | 180.44 |
| 10:38.50 | ShashankSingh | oh wait |
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| 10:41.37 | ShashankSingh | oh okies.. 185.19 is the new beta driver |
| 10:41.49 | ShashankSingh | Moult : sorry for confusion :) |
| 10:42.06 | Moult | ShashankSingh: ahh well :) |
| 10:42.20 | Moult | ShashankSingh: but yes I just updated to 185.19 today, and I did notice improvements |
| 10:42.47 | Moult | However I'm looking forward to the time I can go back to Firefox, but it's acting very weird - now I can't even open/use it properly with compositing. |
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| 11:09.25 | lochkarte | ping konqueror.developers@kde i would like to talk about integrating our http://pvbrowser.org and konqueror |
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| 11:16.30 | aspect | ok here's an odd one |
| 11:16.49 | aspect | I have an hp laptop with an i945 graphics card and 1280x800 panel |
| 11:17.20 | aspect | when I start X, it goes into 1280x800 directly -- kdm's in the correct resolution, if I choose an alternate wm it stays there |
| 11:17.51 | aspect | but when I log in to kde, it goes to 1024x768, and control centre won't give me any higher options |
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| 11:18.31 | aspect | ok, ignore me |
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| 11:18.49 | aspect | problem's a chimera |
| 11:19.54 | aspect | a bit weird running without an xorg.conf though |
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| 11:25.01 | EugenA | hi, if i press ALT+F1 i cannot immediatly search in kick off menu because focus is still on prev. windows. I have this probles since i updated my kde4 |
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| 11:35.50 | RichiH | who is responsible for the KDE forums? |
| 11:36.11 | RichiH | is getting a "Forum Inactivity - KDE Community Forums" email every single day |
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| 11:53.48 | madsdyd_work | Hi all. My lokalize crashed. Does anyone know if it stores a temporay file anywhere? Or, do I have to begin all over? |
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| 12:00.15 | wongk | so, i think quicklaunch is crashing plasma in my kde 4.2.1 + qt 4.5 |
| 12:00.26 | wongk | how can i disable it through the config giles? |
| 12:00.29 | wongk | files |
| 12:00.37 | oneforall | any idea why if i run kde4 in a chroot and then log out , I can't get back to alt+F7 or ctrl+alt+F7 etc . sits there with grainy colours on a forward slash look |
| 12:00.50 | devilsadvocate | is there any way to get ktorrent to sort torrents by the last time of 'activity'? last time someone uploaded from me, etc? |
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| 12:02.08 | Phloog | Hi there, is the clock plasmoid being centered in a panel area that gets "as wide as possible" (meaning, it spans the whole available area of the panel) the intended behaviour? This way, there's no possibility to place it e.g. all to the right on an otherwise empty panel... (KDE 4.2.1) |
| 12:02.51 | Phloog | so... would this be relevant enough to file a bug report? |
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| 12:06.26 | devilsadvocate | Phloog, i might be wrong, but i think that would go as a feature report and not a bug report. the way it is now is the intended behavious |
| 12:06.28 | devilsadvocate | behaviour |
| 12:06.53 | Phloog | Yeah devilsadvocate, thanks, I also just learned about the "panel spacer" plasmoid.... |
| 12:07.05 | Phloog | it's a bit weird of a solution, I think, but I can work with that |
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| 12:12.31 | TSK | Greetings, KDE folks. |
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| 12:22.43 | aspect | ouch |
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| 12:23.43 | aspect | can I turn off compositing effects in kde4? with my graphics card they make it run like crap |
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| 12:24.30 | aspect | ok, it's just "disable desktop effects" |
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| 12:25.28 | jzmer | anybody whats going on with koffice 2.0 's rc 1? it turns out that F5 wont insert table any more . . . |
| 12:25.49 | jzmer | and apparantly theres no "table" under insert menu |
| 12:25.52 | jzmer | its weird |
| 12:26.30 | jzmer | and kword 1.6.3 used to have to function of inserting tables . . . |
| 12:27.18 | jzmer | i also tried to create an odt with abiword with a table with the blanks filled, and when kword opened it, it turns out that nothing is there . . . |
| 12:27.42 | jzmer | so could I conclude that kword in koffice 2.0 rc1 has dropped table support? |
| 12:28.24 | jzmer | the first reason being that kword with that version is not be able to insert tables, and second being that they cannot open an odt docment with a table |
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| 12:30.03 | pvandewyngaerde | is there a volume control per phonon category ? |
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| 12:31.14 | jzmer | hmm, i will close the question there and repost at #koffice |
| 12:31.18 | pvandewyngaerde | aspect > click an application icon in titlebar > configure window behaviour > disable desktop effects |
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| 12:33.07 | aspect | pvandewyngaerde: thanks, I already found it in control center |
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| 12:35.41 | aspect | I know this isn't the place for whining, but I'm pretty horrified with kde4 so far. The appearance, kicker menu and control center reorg remind me of vista; it's greedy with my (limited) screen space; and konqueror is suddenly dog-ugly. And even with desktop effects it's visibly slow :( |
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| 12:36.39 | jzmer | aspect: kde4 definitely is not close to vista in any sense, just take a look at the system settings, and im sure that would remind u of the equivalent utility in mac os x |
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| 12:38.50 | aspect | jzmer: that was probably unfair. I've not used vista except to run putty & firefox on coworkers' machines; my sense of it is pretty shallow |
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| 12:41.00 | Half-Left | The systemsettings is nothing like Vista, yes more like OS X(which is a good thing) |
| 12:43.14 | aspect | perhaps. I liked kde3 immensely .. 20 minutes with kde4 is scaring me back there |
| 12:44.13 | aspect | if I had more screen than I knew what to do with, and a much faster machine/graphics card, kde4 would probably be nice, eventually .. but I don't :) |
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| 12:45.09 | Half-Left | Many people have said KDE4 is faster actually, largely Nvidia driver slowed it down |
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| 12:46.30 | JukeBoxHero | any sound converters for kde? |
| 12:46.44 | JukeBoxHero | sound format mp3 flac ogg etc |
| 12:46.50 | Half-Left | And it depends on what KDE 4.x version you're using. 4.2 is by far the best! |
| 12:47.19 | aspect | I'm on an intel 945gm card, which doesn't handle kde3's translucency well -- but without that, kde3 flies. even without desktop effects here I'm seeing xorg around 10% of a cpu, and redraws are visible |
| 12:48.13 | Half-Left | Well maybe your card needs to take advantage of the new Qt4.x |
| 12:48.58 | thiago | aspect: KDE 3? That didn't support desktop effects properly at all. |
| 12:49.04 | thiago | aspect: if you want desktop effects, use KDE 4. |
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| 12:50.20 | Half-Left | I've used onboard Intel with KDE4 desktop effects and it ran surprisingly well, in some regards better then my nvidia card(when they had issue) |
| 12:50.35 | Jucato | (my laptop's 855GM (or something) handles KDE 4's effects better than my desktop's GeForce4 MX 4000...) |
| 12:52.02 | Half-Left | Jucato: Now thats not a surprise |
| 12:52.17 | Jucato | Half-Left: yeah. just giving a testimony :) |
| 12:52.19 | aspect | I assume my xorg is poorly configured, but the point here is that _without_ desktop effects this performs almost as badly as 3.5 with kwin doing compositing by itself |
| 12:52.52 | aspect | anyway, I guess it's down to taste, and 3.5 suits mine much better -- desktop bling aside :) |
| 12:54.01 | Half-Left | thinks people have been looking at Vista to much |
| 12:54.19 | cb400f | thinks people have been looking at kde 3.5 too much |
| 12:55.44 | aspect | (also, konqueror got really ugly when I upgraded -- I assume this isn't normal; perhaps kaboom made a hash of migrating my settings) |
| 12:55.56 | Half-Left | Ugly how? |
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| 13:02.33 | aspect | hold a sec, let me upload a snapshot -- easier than describing it |
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| 13:06.09 | brianV | which package would Kate be in? |
| 13:07.12 | aspect | konqueror after upgrade: http://imagebin.ca/view/vG89LM3.html |
| 13:07.39 | aspect | the file selection dialog is wasteful of screen space too -- reminds me of gnome's :( |
| 13:07.56 | Jucato | brianV: please ask your distribution. it is part of the kdesdk module |
| 13:08.41 | aspect | brianV: under debian, the package is "kate" |
| 13:08.44 | Half-Left | aspect: I would say your layout looks ugly than anything :p |
| 13:09.46 | aspect | Half-Left: this is how it appeared out of the box. Like I said, I guess it's not meant to, kaboom must have screwed something up in migration :/ |
| 13:10.09 | brianV | Jucato, aspect: Ok, thank you |
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| 13:10.57 | aspect | actually, before I bail on this completely, let me try moving .kde sideways and see how things improve |
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| 13:11.42 | Half-Left | doesn't use text in the browser mode |
| 13:11.42 | aspect | is there a simple way i can enable a theme that should work well on a small screen? |
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| 13:12.22 | aspect | text under icons? nor do I .. nvm that I think those particular icons should go back to the 80s :) |
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| 13:13.15 | kdepepo | aspect, Skulpture has configurable margins and spacing |
| 13:13.41 | Half-Left | Yer, KDE3 really looks up to date :p |
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| 13:20.01 | RizR | can't get kde to work. using ATI card with open source driver on kubuntu. Used gnome's utility to setup dual-head previously. kde's system->system settigns->display doesn't give any appropriate settings. |
| 13:20.03 | RizR | any ideas? |
| 13:20.33 | RizR | xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.com/m2be2f4e2 |
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| 13:25.31 | aspect | Half-Left: my motivation is not "looking up to date" but having a system I can use effectively |
| 13:26.27 | aspect | if looking at latest-version software disillusions me, I've only got myself to blame :) |
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| 13:31.06 | cheko | can anyone use the current kcontrol4 from kdereview? |
| 13:31.22 | cheko | i get only a treeview and thats it |
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| 13:36.11 | ultrav1olet | is there a way to make Phonon use _default_ Alsa sound card instead of using a device directly? |
| 13:37.17 | ultrav1olet | in the latter case no KDE application can play sounds, even though _all_ other Alsa based applications can output audio simultaneously via dmix plugin |
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| 13:47.49 | ultrav1olet | exit/start it? |
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| 13:48.59 | Half-Left | aspect: Wel if it don't work for you, don't use it, we don't get points for converting people :) |
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| 13:51.03 | Zelut | looks like it works selecting "open with default browser", but not by selecting a specific one. |
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| 13:55.57 | aspect | Half-Left: that's the truth. I hope my horror didn't upset anyone besides myself :) |
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| 14:10.29 | Xenius | I have made my kwrite from kde 3.5.9 hang with F7 %s/[\s\t]*$//g |
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| 14:10.57 | Half-Left | Nvidia 180.44 (Fixed OpenGL crashes while running KDE4's Plasma.) |
| 14:11.00 | Half-Left | :p |
| 14:11.26 | Xenius | I mean kwrite |
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| 14:13.25 | Sho_ | pinotree: argh |
| 14:13.40 | Sho_ | pinotree: Okular just fooled me |
| 14:14.08 | pinotree | yup, there's: system("/usr/bin/fool Eike"); in its main() |
| 14:14.17 | Sho_ | pinotree: :( |
| 14:14.42 | pinotree | :P |
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| 14:14.52 | Sho_ | pinotree: Anyhow ... the search field above the "Contents" listview ... I expected it to actually search the document rather than just filter the document outline :/ |
| 14:15.03 | Sho_ | pinotree: so I searched and searched and always no hits ... |
| 14:15.17 | Sho_ | until I realized I hat to use "Find" |
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| 14:15.39 | Sho_ | pinotree: Maybe a "Filter:" label would help avoid the confusion or something |
| 14:15.46 | pinotree | or the filter lineedit in the thumbnail panel |
| 14:16.35 | reavertm | adding app-misc/fool to RDEPEND in okular |
| 14:17.37 | Sho_ | pinotree: well that is nice but doesn't fix the problem :) |
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| 14:20.07 | pinotree | Sho_: my fear is that adding a label would remove space to the actual lineedit |
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| 14:21.02 | pinotree | (especially that it could take more space when translated) |
| 14:21.33 | Xenius | Who can file this bug? I'm too lazy to register |
| 14:21.48 | Xenius | kwrite hangs with F7 %s/[\s\t]*$//g |
| 14:21.58 | pinotree | did you try with kde 4.2.x? |
| 14:23.38 | Sho_ | pinotree: true, yeah ... well maybe it's just me being stupid and other people won't make the mistake |
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| 14:23.44 | Xenius | pinheiro, I have 3.5.9 only. It presents at KDE 4.2.1 |
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| 14:23.55 | pinotree | is not pinheiro |
| 14:24.08 | Xenius | pinheiro, try with your kwrite |
| 14:24.25 | Sho_ | pinotree: by the way, love all those icons you make |
| 14:24.28 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 14:24.31 | Jucato | >:) |
| 14:24.38 | Jucato | Xenius: you're talking to the wrong person |
| 14:24.39 | pinotree | kicks Sho_ |
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| 14:24.46 | Sho_ | >:D |
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| 14:25.15 | Xenius | Jucato, what is your KDE version? |
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| 14:25.42 | jzmer | is there any recent news about kimpanel incorporation into kde 4.3? |
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| 14:27.00 | GNU\colossus | kimpanel? sounds like kimpossible! |
| 14:27.13 | jzmer | so it failed in the review? |
| 14:27.14 | Jucato | kicks GNUcolossus |
| 14:27.26 | GNU\colossus | idk what kimpanel is :) |
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| 14:27.49 | pinotree | jzmer: uh? still in review, no idea about its development |
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| 14:28.19 | pinotree | GNU\colossus: one of the meaning of "im", other than "instant messaging", is "input method" |
| 14:28.34 | GNU\colossus | I see :) |
| 14:28.40 | jzmer | yep, its a frontend, like the previous skim |
| 14:29.14 | jzmer | but this comes not only with scim but also with ibus, fcitx ... |
| 14:29.44 | jzmer | so that we could rid certain gtk components out of the dependency tree |
| 14:30.24 | jzmer | pinotree: is there any place i could check for such review status? |
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| 14:30.36 | pinotree | maybe in the plasma team |
| 14:30.38 | freinhard | besides the reviewboard kde needs a rewardboard where people can propose beer,sweets or clammy handshakes for fixing bugs ;) |
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| 14:31.30 | jzmer | pinotree: erh, i mean, web page, of some kind . . |
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| 14:32.02 | Xenius | What I should do with this bug? I'm too lazy to register on tracker |
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| 14:32.57 | jzmer | but kimpanel is for non-english users for sure |
| 14:33.20 | jzmer | esp for asian users, from the author's point of view |
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| 14:35.16 | jzmer | pinotree: do u think if theres any reason for the review to fail? |
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| 14:35.38 | pinotree | i told you, i have no idea about kimpanel |
| 14:36.02 | jzmer | pinotree: okey, got, but thx for the info though :) |
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| 14:37.23 | itai_michaelson | hi, i want to switch from nautilus to konqueror ,but was wondering ,can i set conqueror to resize and flip images on right click (have that option in my right click menu)? |
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| 14:38.25 | GNU\colossus | itai_michaelson: no problem, with an appropriate service menu. if such a service menu exists, of course, is an entirely different matter. |
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| 14:39.07 | FernandoLB | Hello. I cannot get the pager in the left side of the task bar. Is it possible to achieve that ? |
| 14:39.50 | itai_michaelson | GNU\colossus, not sure i understand your answer, you are saying that if iamge resizing exisits than it can be done with conqueror? |
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| 14:41.14 | itai_michaelson | GNU\colossus, is this what i want : http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphics/Picwiz-2282.shtml? |
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| 14:41.43 | GNU\colossus | itai_michaelson: quite possibly, yes :) |
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| 14:43.20 | itai_michaelson | GNU\colossus, thanks, sorry for such basic questions -been a gnome boy for such a long time but can i set conqueror to show my network smb shares in some sort of "places" sub menu like in nautilus? |
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| 14:44.21 | GNU\colossus | itai_michaelson: I don't use SMB, but on my KDE 3 desktop here, I can set it up so select filesystems in my fstab (all of type "cifs", for example) show up on my desktop, and mount themselves when clicked |
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| 14:45.40 | itai_michaelson | GNU\colossus, yes i have my smb shares mounted in fstab, i just want to know if they can appear in conqueror cause my suers are not so tech savvy ,they will need some time to get used to the switch |
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| 14:46.22 | Cyclist2 | Hello, there! I run Gnome on Ubuntu Intrepid and added KOrganizer to my applications; unfortunately the Help file seems to be missing and I don't know that program's irc channel; could someone point me in the general direction of where I might find it ? |
| 14:47.15 | itai_michaelson | i just realised i wrote conqueror with a C instead of a K.... |
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| 14:47.49 | clancy | hi |
| 14:47.50 | clancy | i use kde3 |
| 14:47.54 | peaches | Cyclist2: dunno but manuals at docs.kde.org |
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| 14:48.26 | peaches | clancy: they still make Apple IIe? |
| 14:48.31 | Cyclist2 | thank you, peaches; I will try that now |
| 14:48.31 | peaches | ;) |
| 14:48.32 | clancy | why is it sometimes enough in kicker to place the mouse over a tab to switch tab and sometimes i must click to switch tab? |
| 14:49.13 | LukasT | Hi, it is possible to setup key bind for switching activity? I can't switch using Ctrl+Shift+P. I'm using KDE4.2.2 in Fedora10 |
| 14:49.29 | peaches | clancy: tab you mean taskbar to activate applications? |
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| 14:49.40 | GNU\colossus | itai_michaelson: it's definitely possible, but there are numerous alternatives to do so, I guess. sorry, but I don't have time right now to elaborate on the topic |
| 14:50.01 | clancy | peaches: in kicker(kick off style) you can switch betwenn tabs |
| 14:50.01 | itai_michaelson | GNU\colossus, ok thanks |
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| 14:50.20 | LukasT | anybody around knows? I can't find it in System settings... |
| 14:50.26 | itai_michaelson | GNU\colossus, i'll try in #kubuntu.... |
| 14:51.28 | peaches | clancy: oh i didnt know kicker had a kick off style.. i thought that was kickoff with a kicker style. those times when you can't click, can you hover out and in over and over to eventually be able to switch without clicking? |
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| 14:51.53 | peaches | LukasT: where did you enter Ctrl+Shift+P? |
| 14:52.06 | clancy | peaches: yes, in opensuse the kde3 start menu looks like the kde4 start menu |
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| 14:52.08 | Cyclist2 | thank you very much, peaches! I found it; I am still looking for the Kaffeine Handbook too but it seems to be non-existent at that site... o/ |
| 14:52.16 | LukasT | peaches: in plasma |
| 14:52.43 | clancy | peaches: and yes, sometimes i must clikc, sometimes not to switch |
| 14:52.44 | peaches | clancy: yes but if i'm not mistaken you're using kde3 version of kickoff |
| 14:52.51 | clancy | yes |
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| 14:56.05 | clancy | and when i login i have for 1 sec. an ugly screen |
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| 14:57.17 | peaches | clancy: i used to have that a while back.. dont any more, mouse gets stuck. may just need to upgrade. if i were you i'd try for now instead unchecking switch tab on hover, apply, test, then check again and apply, make sure it's writing config properly and such |
| 14:57.35 | LukasT | I should go and ask on forum then |
| 14:57.47 | peaches | clancy: do you use any 3d effects? |
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| 14:57.57 | clancy | peaches: no |
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| 14:58.21 | jzmer | anybody knows why koffice 2.0 rc 1 could render opentype fonts correctly while kde 4.2.2 cannot set window title font to any opentype font? isnt it that both are supposed to use the freetype 2 font render lib? |
| 14:58.48 | peaches | clancy: so by ugly you mean what? |
| 14:59.05 | clancy | peaches: where can i uncheck this? |
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| 15:00.22 | clancy | peaches: difficult to explain, it is pixalized and i see sometimes what i did in the last session |
| 15:00.33 | peaches | LukasT: check your distro for docs packages, also try kaffeine's site for docs |
| 15:00.42 | clancy | so when i logout and then login, i see for 1 sec for example where i surfed with firefox |
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| 15:01.06 | jzmer_____ | i also noted other apps, like abiword and openoffice.org, dont render opentype fonts "correctly" or they dont render opentype at all, so what is it that is special about koffice? |
| 15:01.09 | clancy | when start the pc for the 1. time, it is black/white |
| 15:01.37 | peaches | clancy: right click the kickoff should be a settings option there.. if not youre running version too outdated for me to be able to help |
| 15:01.42 | clancy | like stairs |
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| 15:02.11 | peaches | clancy: it saves a picture or something? |
| 15:02.37 | clancy | no idea, it shows me for 1 sec a pixalized picture |
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| 15:02.55 | peaches | clancy: but a picture that you recognize from before like your KDE session |
| 15:03.07 | clancy | exactly |
| 15:03.18 | clancy | it is weird |
| 15:03.21 | peaches | sound like a driver issue |
| 15:03.59 | clancy | yes, without the nvidia driver i do not have this |
| 15:04.09 | peaches | clancy: what version? |
| 15:04.14 | clancy | but it only happens in opensuse |
| 15:04.19 | clancy | 180.44 |
| 15:04.25 | clancy | i had the same with other versions |
| 15:04.31 | clancy | like 180.29 or 180.37 |
| 15:04.35 | peaches | hm |
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| 15:06.42 | peaches | clancy: well it's proprietary, not much to do in that case than bug report on their forum if it bothers you too much |
| 15:06.45 | Jaxad0127 | under kde 4.2.2, how do I tell konqueror and dolphin to use double clicks and horizontal wraping of item selection (if I have the left most icon in a row hilighted, and I press left, it should go to the right most icon of the previous line, not stay where it is)? |
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| 15:06.58 | peaches | nvidia and/or suse |
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| 15:07.41 | Jucato | Jaxad0127: for the first question: System Settings -> Keyboard & Mouse -> Mouse |
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| 15:08.14 | Jaxad0127 | Jucato: ty |
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| 15:30.02 | Cazou | hey, since some times now, kdebase svn wants to install a file in /usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/ even though I told it to install in $HOME/kde/ |
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| 15:30.26 | Cazou | Do I have to install pykde4 in $HOME/kde too ? |
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| 15:31.04 | LnxSlck | what are you trying to do |
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| 15:37.26 | Cazou | I just run a cmake make and make install |
| 15:38.05 | Cazou | and with make install, I get a file Problem setting permissions on file "/usr/lib64/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/plasmascript.py" |
| 15:38.17 | Cazou | (I once installed it as root) |
| 15:41.06 | thiago | problem being discussed |
| 15:41.08 | thiago | we'll fix it |
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| 15:44.46 | Cazou | thiago: ok, as always, thanks :-) |
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| 15:46.53 | Envite | Hello all |
| 15:47.16 | Envite | does somebody know how to make KDE launch xine when a DVD is inserted? |
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| 15:54.10 | shika_ | hmm I've been searching around for a few moment but I didn't find any way to change encoding in dolphin |
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| 15:54.42 | shika_ | I've seen a method using mount with iocharset but that only works for local devices :/ |
| 15:55.08 | shika_ | how can I change encoding for a remote ftp for instance? |
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| 16:06.24 | spawn57 | if I leave my computer to idle for a while, the screen goes off. WHen I wake it up i'm prompted for a password. What do I do to change this so my computer doesn't lock automatically |
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| 16:06.31 | pothibo | Hi, I have a question: is there plans to make mouse action on the panel widget change focus for dual screen? |
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| 16:07.51 | thiago | spawn57: in the power manager settings |
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| 16:08.13 | pothibo | If I am working on 1 screen, and I launch a program from a panel from another screen, the program will launch in the screen where my last actions were done (outside of the panel) |
| 16:08.24 | spawn57 | thiago: thanks |
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| 16:13.01 | cumulus007 | hi, I changed my desktop type to BlackBoard, and now I can't change it back to the default one |
| 16:13.17 | cumulus007 | the context menu of the desktop won't open anymore |
| 16:13.44 | PuffTheMagic | how come when i run pwd from a shell script via konqy i says my working dir is ~/ instead of the dir i actually ran the script from |
| 16:14.01 | Envite | does somebody know how to make KDE launch xine when a DVD is inserted? |
| 16:14.16 | Jaxad0127 | under kde 4.2.2, how do I tell konqueror and dolphin to horizontally wrap item selection (if I have the left most icon in a row hilighted, and I press left, it should go to the right most icon of the previous line, not stay where it is)? |
| 16:14.17 | cumulus007 | Envite: it's possible with KDE 4.3 |
| 16:14.38 | Envite | cumulus007: thanks. but how? |
| 16:15.11 | cumulus007 | I don't know how to do this with KDE 4.2.2 and down, in KDE 4.3 it's called Device Actions in System Settings |
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| 16:16.00 | Envite | cumulus007: this is 3.5 :( |
| 16:16.31 | cumulus007 | oh, ok |
| 16:16.34 | cumulus007 | do't know, sorry |
| 16:16.42 | Envite | don't worry |
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| 16:19.25 | pinotree | PuffTheMagic: theorically, it shouldn't matter that much |
| 16:20.15 | Dumble_ | ok, I see what happened while migrating from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 => everything related to file association has vanished... |
| 16:20.20 | Dumble_ | how can I reset this ? |
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| 16:28.41 | dag | is looking for a KDE user (amarok, koffice, ...) with half an hour of spare time and a wiimote/bluetooth, anyone ? |
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| 16:35.25 | nadaj | HI |
| 16:35.41 | PuffTheMagic | pinotree: yeah but the script is supposted to convert a file in that dir into another file type, so that means i have to hard code the path in the file |
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| 16:35.45 | PuffTheMagic | which is not optimal |
| 16:36.21 | pinotree | PuffTheMagic: wrong, you should use the proper %F placeholder in the .desktop of your service menu, and then get the arguments of the script. |
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| 16:36.52 | PuffTheMagic | what? im not using a desktop file |
| 16:37.03 | pinotree | how are you calling your script then? |
| 16:37.04 | PuffTheMagic | i just want to double click on a script in a dir |
| 16:37.29 | PuffTheMagic | i said konky before, i mean dolphin |
| 16:37.33 | PuffTheMagic | meant |
| 16:37.40 | pinotree | what do you get in the $0 variable? |
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| 16:39.01 | PuffTheMagic | the path to the file, u suggesting i get the path from that? |
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| 16:39.21 | pinotree | yes, see `dirname` |
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| 16:40.04 | deever | hi |
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| 16:41.09 | nadaj | I have a question..... I have installed fedora 10, but I need to use wireless internet is this adapter compatible with Linux and fedora 10 (D-LINK DWL-G122 WIRELESS USB ADAPTER)? |
| 16:41.20 | thiago_home | please ask in #fedora |
| 16:41.22 | pinotree | nadaj: you should ask in #fedora |
| 16:41.31 | nadaj | :) |
| 16:41.33 | deever | for kde3.5 users, is debian better or kubuntu hardy? |
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| 17:00.07 | Feisar | is there a way to change icons inside /usr/share/pixmaps with a theme? |
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| 17:03.09 | Half-Left | Feisar: How do you mean? |
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| 17:04.00 | Feisar | Half-Left: some programs put icons inside /usr/share/pixmaps if I am creating a theme, how do I get those to change? |
| 17:04.12 | pinotree | Feisar: /usr/share/pixmaps is the old way to store generic unthemed pixmaps, so it is totally out of any theme's control |
| 17:04.39 | Feisar | pinotree: great, that's what I needed to know thank you |
| 17:04.40 | Half-Left | Oh, you mean a icon theme |
| 17:04.47 | Feisar | yeah, sorry |
| 17:05.06 | pinotree | are you planning to store pixmaps there? |
| 17:05.22 | Feisar | no |
| 17:05.42 | Feisar | all the info on standards is at freedesktop right> |
| 17:05.45 | Feisar | ? |
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| 17:06.10 | Half-Left | KDE4? |
| 17:06.14 | pinotree | mostly, yes |
| 17:06.20 | pinotree | what is your real doubt/problem? |
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| 17:06.48 | Half-Left | Just use the Oxygen theme as a template for your icon theme |
| 17:07.00 | Feisar | you answered it, I just needed to know if pixmaps was an obsolete thing |
| 17:07.03 | Feisar | thanks |
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| 17:10.42 | Jaxad0127 | under kde 4.2.2, how do I tell konqueror and dolphin to horizontally wrap item selection (if I have the left most icon in a row hilighted, and I press left, it should go to the right most icon of the previous line, not stay where it is)? |
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| 17:17.05 | Deviant2Peer | hi all! |
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| 17:17.53 | Deviant2Peer | I'm trying to start kmail using a ssh session but I get a Cannot find DBUS session server error |
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| 17:18.20 | Deviant2Peer | anyone knows how to handle such error so that I can still run kmail even if not on a kde session? |
| 17:18.35 | Jaxad0127 | Deviant2Peer: make sure dbus is running |
| 17:19.07 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: it is, but on a different display (a local session opened at the computer) |
| 17:19.34 | Jaxad0127 | Deviant2Peer: make sure the computer that will be running kmail has dbus running |
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| 17:19.43 | Jaxad0127 | that seems to be the problem |
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| 17:20.09 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: it does. It's just on a different session |
| 17:20.28 | Jaxad0127 | dbus is system wide |
| 17:20.29 | raikazejin | when i start konsole there is not a prompt |
| 17:20.29 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: a local session (started at that computer console) |
| 17:20.45 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: then I don't understand why it can't open it... |
| 17:20.48 | Jaxad0127 | Deviant2Peer: is it running for the machine you're at? |
| 17:20.48 | Deviant2Peer | argh |
| 17:21.06 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: both machines are running dbus |
| 17:21.21 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: both machines are running a full kde session |
| 17:21.22 | Jaxad0127 | idk then |
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| 17:21.28 | Jaxad0127 | see if your didstro people can help |
| 17:21.33 | Deviant2Peer | ok, thx |
| 17:21.34 | Jaxad0127 | *distro |
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| 17:24.00 | deever | for kde3.5 users, is debian better or kubuntu hardy? |
| 17:24.17 | GNU\colossus | Kubuntu LTS was quite OK for me |
| 17:24.53 | deever | GNU\colossus: was? ;) |
| 17:25.02 | deever | or is |
| 17:25.36 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: I checked the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS env variable from the other machine and use it inside the ssh shell and it worked. |
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| 17:26.00 | Deviant2Peer | Jaxad0127: I guess there is a way to use the session from a remote computer. Something to search the web. |
| 17:26.01 | Jaxad0127 | Deviant2Peer: :) |
| 17:26.20 | Jaxad0127 | deever: I'd personally use a better distro |
| 17:26.34 | Jaxad0127 | you can still get 3.5 for Archlinux through 3rd party repos |
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| 17:30.22 | deever | Jaxad0127: better distro? |
| 17:30.53 | deever | Jaxad0127: actually, i need a distro with good kde support... |
| 17:31.06 | deever | kde3.5 i mean |
| 17:31.36 | Rehto- | deever: kde 3.5 in arch works ok at least it did for me when I still used it |
| 17:31.39 | deever | are both debian and kubuntu hardy so bad for kde? |
| 17:32.48 | Rehto- | but if you are n00b and don't want to mess with CLI arch perhaps isn't the right one for you |
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| 17:33.10 | Jaxad0127 | Rehto-: he did mention debian |
| 17:33.22 | Rehto- | yeah he did :D |
| 17:33.25 | Rehto- | sry ;) |
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| 17:34.14 | deever | Rehto-: no, i'm not a noob, but don't want to bother about things like getting kde and X working |
| 17:34.49 | shepherd | Ive a question, is there something I can do to improve menu / window loading speed in kde4? I used kde4 with archlinux and everything loaded perfectly and smoothly. But I prefer fedora + KDE4, however whenever I gho to load any window or any menu I see a black background for about 2 seconds before it loads, any suggestions ? |
| 17:34.57 | deever | and liked to use debian-derived distros |
| 17:35.23 | Rehto- | deever: well in arch you have to... 1st install the base system then dload X and it's dependencies.. then setup X etc... |
| 17:35.36 | Rehto- | at least that's how I do it |
| 17:35.46 | Rehto- | gonna shut up now :D |
| 17:35.47 | Rehto- | --> |
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| 17:38.35 | Jaxad0127 | setting up X can be done automagically |
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| 17:42.52 | Half-Left | shepherd: Black background? |
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| 17:43.10 | Jaxad0127 | Half-Left: when the window is shown, it's initially black |
| 17:43.16 | Jaxad0127 | before it can start drawing |
| 17:43.19 | Jaxad0127 | *it starts |
| 17:43.31 | Half-Left | Never seen that |
| 17:44.17 | Jaxad0127 | Half-Left: just a noticeable timeout before it starts drawing itself |
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| 17:44.24 | Jaxad0127 | I'm supprised you've never seen it |
| 17:44.52 | Half-Left | Is it a compositing thing or just a redraw issue? |
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| 17:45.05 | mck182 | I'd say compositing |
| 17:45.15 | Jaxad0127 | Half-Left: just a noticeable timeout before it's sent a draw command (or whatever) |
| 17:45.24 | Jaxad0127 | it can be anything |
| 17:45.57 | mck182 | true, although I've seen this mostly with older video cards and compositing turned on |
| 17:45.58 | Half-Left | No idea to be honest |
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| 17:48.45 | shepherd | Half-Left: What he said XD, sorry I was away making pancakes. Yes, things are drawn slowly. However a conclusion was provided to me by someone else that slow 2d rendering is the problem |
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| 17:58.25 | wpgmb | Using 4.2 on openSuse 11.1 How can I assign widgets to be showing on a particular virt. desktop (side of a cube) only? Right now, whatever I add shows on all sides. |
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| 18:04.15 | shade | hello, can someone help me to set dbus triger in kde4? |
| 18:06.45 | Jaxad0127 | under kde 4.2.2, how do I tell konqueror and dolphin to horizontally wrap item selection (if I have the left most icon in a row hilighted, and I press left, it should go to the right most icon of the previous line, not stay where it is)? |
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| 18:14.10 | mck182 | I'd like to add to Jaxad0127, that when moving in dolphin by letf/right arrow keys, it shouldn't stop at the end of the row, but should jump either to the row above (left arrow key) or below (right key) and keep the continuity, now it stops at the end of the row |
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| 18:16.31 | Jaxad0127 | mck182: exactly |
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| 18:17.41 | mck182 | Jaxad0127: oh..now I'm looking that you wrote the same :D |
| 18:18.07 | mck182 | I thought it was when you have selected some more icons.. |
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| 18:18.17 | Jaxad0127 | in either case |
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| 18:20.04 | Jaxad0127 | 3.5 did it by default |
| 18:20.10 | Jaxad0127 | and many other filemanagers do too |
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| 18:22.32 | mck182 | yep, that's true |
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| 18:27.44 | dazjorz | btw |
| 18:27.47 | dazjorz | oops, wrong window |
| 18:27.58 | Jaxad0127 | lol |
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| 18:42.32 | k0pp | where can i get dekorator for freebsd? i cant find it anywhere.. |
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| 19:17.57 | chem_ | Hi, I'm running kde 3.5.1 on suse enterprise 10.0 and my minimized applications do not show in my taskbar..any ideas ? |
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| 19:21.17 | Marquel | morning... i have a stupid question about nepomuk: how do i search with exif attributes? |
| 19:21.28 | ShashankSingh | chem_: hi, try asking in #suse |
| 19:22.06 | chem_ | ok |
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| 19:34.10 | mck182 | Marquel: hm, I'd be interested in that too :) |
| 19:34.56 | Rasi | hmmm |
| 19:34.58 | Marquel | mck182: documentation is ... rather low... :( |
| 19:35.06 | Rasi | i installed a gtk icon theme, which more or less works in kde4 |
| 19:35.06 | Rasi | but |
| 19:35.16 | Rasi | everytime i create a new folder it gets an ugly standard gtk icon |
| 19:35.22 | Rasi | have to change it manually each time |
| 19:35.28 | Rasi | anyone a clue how i can change this? |
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| 20:06.17 | frankS2 | Hi KDE is turning on the screensaver while im watching movies. how can i turn this off? |
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| 20:08.02 | aseigo | frankS2: that's up to the appication you are using to watch movies to do |
| 20:08.31 | aseigo | frankS2: you can manually turn off the screensaver if you wish, but it's only the app itself who can actually know when that's appropriate (nothing knows that it's actually playing video that shouldn't be interupted) |
| 20:08.44 | aseigo | (not even all full screen'd windows match that properly either) |
| 20:08.55 | aseigo | frankS2: what app are you using for the movie watching? |
| 20:10.24 | frankS2 | aseigo: vlc |
| 20:10.56 | aseigo | frankS2: file a bug with them. all the other players do it properly :) |
| 20:11.18 | frankS2 | in gnome vlc didnt have that problem |
| 20:11.28 | aseigo | frankS2: hm. either that or you don't have the x.org screensaver stuff available and they are assuming that to be there |
| 20:11.39 | aseigo | (with no "make pretend keystrokes" fallback) |
| 20:11.56 | frankS2 | well i would use kaffeine |
| 20:12.00 | frankS2 | if it supported subtutles |
| 20:12.06 | frankS2 | which it clearly dont |
| 20:12.22 | aseigo | uses subtitles in kaffiene? |
| 20:12.30 | frankS2 | .sub? |
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| 20:12.31 | aseigo | dragon as well for that matter iirc |
| 20:12.34 | drax2gma | hi ppl |
| 20:12.40 | aseigo | ah.. no, off of actual dvd's |
| 20:12.59 | aseigo | anyways.. vlc... would be interesting to know exactly what they are trying to do for screen saver prevention |
| 20:13.03 | aseigo | drax2gma: ho |
| 20:13.23 | drax2gma | Anybody here also got font garbage problem with kde+jaunty? |
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| 20:13.47 | aseigo | drax2gma: ask in #kubuntu |
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| 20:13.57 | drax2gma | allright, thanks |
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| 20:35.56 | rdieter | wonders if drax2gma happened to be using qt-4.5 built against freetype with lcdfilter enabled and was using vrgb or vgbr font hinting (just saw that too) |
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| 20:46.07 | sickill | Hi guys. Did anyone use QThreads in plasmoids? |
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| 20:47.55 | thiago_home | sickill: why would you need threads in plasmoids? |
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| 20:48.23 | Jaxad0127 | how would you not? |
| 20:48.54 | Jaxad0127 | like downloading content updates from the web |
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| 20:50.40 | sickill | thiago_home: i'm writing a plasmoid which is a form which when is submitted makes a http request to some server |
| 20:50.40 | amzhak | How do I disable the annoying balloon from Strigi appearing every 5 seconds telling me that indexing started or stopped? |
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| 20:50.59 | sickill | thiago_home: doing it in ui thread will freeze plasma |
| 20:51.30 | thiago_home | sickill: not really, no |
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| 20:51.51 | thiago_home | all Qt and KDE I/O methods are non-blocking |
| 20:52.03 | thiago_home | just use KIO::storedHttpPost and you're set |
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| 20:52.45 | sickill | thiago_home: the problem is my plasmoid is in python and i use python lib which makes the request with urllib2 |
| 20:52.56 | Jaxad0127 | you can thread python |
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| 20:53.25 | thiago_home | you shouldn't use python's HTTP libraries |
| 20:53.29 | thiago_home | you should use KDE's |
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| 20:54.53 | sickill | Jaxad0127: i tried to use python's threading.Thread but it was crashing |
| 20:55.20 | thiago_home | import pykde4 modules into your python plasmoid |
| 20:55.23 | thiago_home | use KIO |
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| 21:03.57 | sickill | thiago_home: does storedGet and storedHttpPost allow me to handle http status codes? |
| 21:04.38 | thiago_home | sickill: yes, the codes are part of the reply (AFAIR) |
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| 21:05.26 | Jaxad0127 | thiago_home: how does that work if they don't block? |
| 21:05.52 | thiago_home | signals and slots |
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| 21:06.39 | sickill | that's awesome |
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| 21:19.00 | jmut | hi. I just upgraded to kde4. seems really cool. only issue I experience so far is konsole .desktop files are somehow not recognised or just me no clue how to use them with new kde. I used to select from top left and scroll to session I want. This is not profiles but sessions! |
| 21:19.16 | sickill | thiago_home: many thanks for advice, it will probably solve my problem :) |
| 21:19.28 | thiago_home | sickill: you're welcome |
| 21:19.50 | thiago_home | jmut: profiles and sessions are the same now |
| 21:20.33 | jmut | thiago_home: so can I do some migrate or I have to recreate them by hand with add new profiles etc etc... |
| 21:21.11 | thiago_home | you have to recreate them by hand, unfortunately |
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| 21:21.36 | alanp | Does the kpdf project have a channel? |
| 21:21.39 | blip- | so I've been hearing for months about how bloated/slow KDE4 is compared with KDE3... I've been using 4 for a few days and there isn't much difference specially when I disable the desktop effects. Is there something that fundamentally makes it slower or it's just the 3D effects ? |
| 21:21.57 | jmut | also I somehow fail to see how I can move the tabbed konsoles on top. they are down and no option I see or drag help |
| 21:22.28 | jmut | thiago_home: thanks will do. small price to pay :) lovely product at first and second glance |
| 21:22.39 | thiago_home | alanp: no |
| 21:22.47 | thiago_home | alanp: kpdf was replaced with Okular |
| 21:22.57 | pumphaus | jmut: settings -> edit current profile -> tabs |
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| 21:23.21 | thiago_home | blip-: desktop effects do take more CPU, of course |
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| 21:23.39 | jmut | pumphaus: aaah....the relive. thank you so much :) |
| 21:23.47 | thiago_home | blip-: and if you don't have a nice graphics card and good drivers... |
| 21:23.52 | blip- | thiago_home: yes. btw is it using compiz fusion underneath or it's all native to KDE4 |
| 21:24.02 | pumphaus | all native kde4 |
| 21:24.12 | thiago_home | blip-: all native |
| 21:24.56 | blip- | ok, but other than those 3D effects. How do 4 and 3 compare in performance ? |
| 21:25.00 | blip- | I mean QT etc.. |
| 21:25.07 | blip- | I don't know much about graphics libs and all that |
| 21:25.21 | thiago_home | KDE 4 is much more than KDE 3 |
| 21:25.36 | thiago_home | it's difficult to do comparisons when they are so different |
| 21:26.18 | blip- | but they seem very similar to me so far. Except for the plasmoids widgets thing |
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| 21:26.48 | alanp | thiago, whoa! |
| 21:27.02 | alanp | thiago, when did this happen? |
| 21:27.12 | devilsadvocate | <3 okular |
| 21:27.19 | alanp | thiago, this is amazing! |
| 21:27.29 | alanp | i haven't installed it yet, but i like what I'm reading |
| 21:27.34 | alanp | chm+pdf+djvu in one |
| 21:27.50 | alanp | installs |
| 21:28.10 | alanp | grrrr |
| 21:28.12 | devilsadvocate | okular has so far opened almost anything i threw at it |
| 21:28.22 | alanp | looks like it is a kde4 thing, though |
| 21:28.26 | pinotree | yeah |
| 21:28.39 | pinotree | okular is the kde4 replacement/enhancement of kpdf |
| 21:28.41 | alanp | :-( |
| 21:28.49 | alanp | i'm not ready to move to 4 |
| 21:28.52 | thiago_home | okular is the mplayer/vlc of document viewers |
| 21:29.27 | blip- | kookooklock |
| 21:29.27 | devilsadvocate | i also recently realized that dragon remembers where i stopped watching a video last time |
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| 21:29.32 | devilsadvocate | which is ... awesome |
| 21:29.41 | pumphaus | alanp: you can still use okular without running a kde4 session |
| 21:30.06 | alanp | pumphaus, i just saw the okular-kde4 pkg |
| 21:30.09 | alanp | for ubuntu |
| 21:30.10 | alanp | installing now |
| 21:30.33 | jmut | aa :) what is shortcut of ctrl+alt+d on kde 4 to show desktop |
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| 21:32.08 | Half-Left | devilsadvocate: Yer, Amarok2.1 beta does that with music, nice feature |
| 21:32.26 | Ace2017_- | thiago_home: you use kde 4.3 from svn right? |
| 21:32.39 | Ace2017_- | is this bug still there? http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3616/windowborder60.png |
| 21:32.47 | devilsadvocate | Half-Left, was a bit scary the first time it happened though |
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| 21:33.04 | Ace2017_- | where the autocomplete says one thing and the icon selection says a completely different thing and it goes with the icon selection |
| 21:33.12 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: yes |
| 21:33.24 | Ace2017_- | and the icon selection is in alphabetical order whereas i want whats in the autocomplete |
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| 21:33.43 | Half-Left | Well it leaves a arrow on the track bar, which is nice |
| 21:33.43 | Ace2017_- | the autocomplete is based on frequency of use right? |
| 21:34.56 | Ace2017_- | thiago_home: was that a yes the bug is there or a yes that you run 4.3 from svn? |
| 21:34.58 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: which bug? |
| 21:35.05 | Ace2017_- | http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3616/windowborder60.png |
| 21:35.18 | Ace2017_- | the autocomplete saying a completely different thing to the icon selection |
| 21:35.46 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: not a bug, feature |
| 21:35.47 | thiago_home | still there |
| 21:36.07 | thiago_home | but it's now clearer in 4.3 |
| 21:36.09 | Ace2017_- | oh common you can't be serious |
| 21:36.28 | Ace2017_- | can't we have a 4.2.5 already? |
| 21:36.31 | devilsadvocate | hm, autocomplete doesnt show up on 4.2 .. not the full word at any rate |
| 21:36.40 | Ace2017_- | 4.2.2 here |
| 21:36.58 | devilsadvocate | same |
| 21:37.44 | devilsadvocate | typing "sy" causes the autocomplete to get to "sys", ie, one s is greyed out and extra |
| 21:37.46 | Ace2017_- | does kde3 have autocomplete in its run box? i remember using it but i can't figure out how to enable it |
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| 21:40.39 | tobias_ | sebas: with r952960 in the nm applet you break compilation in kde4.2 branch |
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| 21:40.58 | tobias_ | is that intentional and inevitable with 4.2 vs v4.3 ? |
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| 21:48.27 | alanp | holy crap! okular eats memory for breakfast |
| 21:48.46 | alanp | uses far more than acroread/kpdf/anything |
| 21:49.06 | Ace2017_- | actually it did a poor job at printing pdf files too |
| 21:49.20 | Ace2017_- | it didn't shrink and lay out 2 per page, but kpdf did it fine |
| 21:49.39 | pinotree | alanp: actually, it has the same memory mamagement than kpdf |
| 21:49.48 | alanp | pinotree, apparently not |
| 21:49.59 | pinotree | alanp: actually it does |
| 21:50.07 | alanp | It's using ~90M of memory, kpdf uses approximately 20M with the same PDF |
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| 21:50.45 | Half-Left | lol, where did you get 90mb from, hot air?, it that just on startup? |
| 21:50.50 | pinotree | kpdf's memory management had problems as well (ie miss cache when requested) |
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| 21:51.19 | alanp | alanp 12180 19.5 9.8 165076 89080 ? S 17:49 0:13 /usr/lib/kde4/bin/okular |
| 21:51.21 | alanp | right there |
| 21:51.21 | alanp | ? |
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| 21:51.33 | alanp | no, not just on startup |
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| 21:52.02 | Half-Left | Hardly conclusive |
| 21:52.30 | gigasoft | kde 4.2 and compiz? |
| 21:52.36 | gigasoft | does it works |
| 21:52.36 | gigasoft | ? |
| 21:52.41 | Ace2017_- | gigasoft: works perfectly |
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| 21:52.52 | gigasoft | uh |
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| 21:52.59 | gigasoft | i need help |
| 21:53.11 | Ace2017_- | kde 4.2 + xgl = poop, but kde 4.2+ xgl + compiz-fusion = :D |
| 21:53.14 | gigasoft | why does not works i tto me |
| 21:53.22 | Ace2017_- | oh wait i have to retract that |
| 21:53.44 | Ace2017_- | it'll take too long to explain why |
| 21:53.58 | Ace2017_- | gigasoft: whats wrong? did you compile compiz? |
| 21:54.05 | gigasoft | nooo |
| 21:54.10 | Half-Left | alanp: How many pages is your PDF? |
| 21:54.16 | alanp | half-left: 638 |
| 21:54.22 | Ace2017_- | gigasoft: first run compiz then use kde4-window-decorator --replace |
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| 21:55.10 | surfzoid2 | Hi |
| 21:55.12 | Half-Left | can't find such a big PDF |
| 21:55.30 | pinotree | alanp: kpdf's and okular's memory management depend on various factors, one of them being the memory currently available |
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| 21:55.40 | Half-Left | Are you running x86_64 by any chance? |
| 21:55.51 | surfzoid2 | some can say me if kdebluetooth4 will change actual DBus API obex-data-server use for obexd one ? |
| 21:55.56 | alanp | half-life: no |
| 21:55.57 | surfzoid2 | **someone |
| 21:56.03 | gigasoft | yes |
| 21:56.13 | alanp | i mean, i like okular, but i don't think it's going to be appropriate for my 500mhz tablet :( |
| 21:56.34 | pinotree | alanp: what about setting to "low" the memory profile in the preferences? |
| 21:56.40 | Half-Left | What makes you think it will use the same amount of memory? |
| 21:56.40 | alanp | pinotree, this is on low |
| 21:56.58 | pinotree | then, how much free memory do you currently have? |
| 21:57.11 | alanp | I'm into swap... |
| 21:57.12 | alanp | Mem: 904296k total, 893980k used, 10316k free, 22772k buffers |
| 21:57.15 | pinotree | okualr will adapt to that, even dynamically |
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| 21:59.29 | alanp | bbl |
| 21:59.39 | sebas | Tobias: I know |
| 21:59.47 | Ace2017_- | gigasoft: jaunty has 0.8.2 in its repos already |
| 21:59.59 | sebas | TobiG: ^^ |
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| 22:00.31 | sebas | TobiG: It's trivial to fix though (using an IFDEF), if you provide a patch, I'll happily merge it |
| 22:00.50 | sebas | Otherwise, I'd prefer making it work for 4.3 than taking care of backwards compatibility |
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| 22:03.42 | dny | what applications does kde offer for managing dates & notes & stuff like that? |
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| 22:03.56 | kuaera | dny: Kontact |
| 22:05.33 | mck182 | dny: you may also try basketnotes |
| 22:05.42 | mck182 | or basket notes |
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| 22:07.36 | Half-Left | pinotree: okular uses about 30mb here on a 412 page PDF, low memory set |
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| 22:13.32 | Half-Left | Maybe using Ubloatu :p |
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| 22:26.19 | Rasi | where are splash screens stored in kde4? |
| 22:27.37 | Rasi | ah got it |
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| 22:30.55 | sirninja | is there any way you can make dolphin always open in a new tab instead of a new window? |
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| 22:33.28 | blip- | i remember dolphin in KDE3 used to integrate ark within it on the sidebar so I can extract quickly. This doesn't seem to be there in KDE4. is it an extra or hasn't been developed yet |
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| 22:34.49 | Rasi | blip-: there are righclick options tho |
| 22:35.28 | blip- | Rasi: I don't have any. running kubuntu 8.10 and right clicking a zip file |
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| 22:35.52 | blip- | I still feek konqueror does a better job as an fm than dolphin |
| 22:35.54 | mck182 | blip-: which kde version do you have? |
| 22:35.57 | blip- | feel |
| 22:36.14 | blip- | i'm trying to check. one min |
| 22:36.40 | Half-Left | 4.1 don't have that, 4.2 does |
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| 22:36.52 | blip- | ok there isn't a kde4 --version flag. |
| 22:37.02 | mck182 | blip-: just open any kde app and then help --> about kde |
| 22:37.12 | mck182 | kwrite maybe |
| 22:37.14 | blip- | 4.1.4 |
| 22:37.17 | Rasi | http://carnager.dyndns.org/extract.png |
| 22:37.25 | Rasi | blip-: thats quite old.... |
| 22:37.28 | mck182 | blip-: yep, then you need to update :) |
| 22:37.32 | sirninja | is there any way you can make dolphin always open in a new tab instead of a new window? |
| 22:37.55 | blip- | damn you ubuntu. I installed the whole thing for kde4 and i end up with an old version |
| 22:37.57 | Rasi | krusader is better than dolphin anyway :) |
| 22:37.58 | mck182 | sirninja: I don't about that...although can't imagine what for :) |
| 22:38.06 | blip- | never tried that. i'll check it out |
| 22:38.12 | Rasi | blip-: jaunty has 4.2.2 packages |
| 22:38.13 | mck182 | blip-: wow man, you don't know what you're missing :D |
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| 22:38.29 | Rasi | really |
| 22:38.32 | Rasi | krusader is brilliant |
| 22:38.35 | blip- | Rasi: I'm in jaunty. fully upgraded packages |
| 22:38.36 | Half-Left | Fedroa 10 has had 4.2 for a while now :p |
| 22:38.38 | mck182 | sirninja: * don't know |
| 22:38.47 | Rasi | blip-: ehm |
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| 22:39.00 | mck182 | Half-Left: with kdeforge it's there from january :P |
| 22:39.11 | Half-Left | Fedora* |
| 22:39.34 | Rasi | blip-: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.2 |
| 22:39.46 | Half-Left | And arch :p |
| 22:39.53 | Rasi | something is wrong there... jaunty definately has 4.2.2 |
| 22:39.53 | mustu | my System Tray duplicates a program!! when i play a new audio .. there will be a new player that will vanish after some seconds 15 or so ... any clue |
| 22:40.09 | Rasi | mustu: you mean taskbar? |
| 22:40.32 | Rasi | systemsettings -> desktop -> launch feedback |
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| 22:40.54 | blip- | you know I was using thunar under KDE3. I installed xfce stuff just for it :) |
| 22:40.59 | mustu | Rasi: ya where do ur program goes when it' sminimized |
| 22:41.00 | blip- | very light and quick |
| 22:41.10 | Rasi | mustu: taskbar |
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| 22:41.19 | Rasi | blip-: update your kde :) |
| 22:41.26 | Rasi | blip-: thunar is... well light |
| 22:41.26 | mustu | ya... so y it duplicates my programs? |
| 22:41.30 | Rasi | mustu: no |
| 22:41.33 | blip- | i'm checking it now, that link. thanks |
| 22:41.40 | mustu | do u get my point or need to see a screen shot? |
| 22:41.48 | Rasi | mustu: i think i know what you mean |
| 22:41.53 | Rasi | simply disable what i told you |
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| 22:43.04 | mustu | Rasi: i did n't got.. what u told... kindly can u tell again .. what to disable? |
| 22:43.17 | Rasi | systemsettings -> desktop -> launch feedback |
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| 22:46.07 | mustu | Rasi: i did but no effect! |
| 22:46.18 | Rasi | ok.. show me a screenshot |
| 22:47.11 | mustu | what's the shortcut to take a screenshot? |
| 22:47.22 | mustu | Print Screen? |
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| 22:47.41 | Rasi | start ksnapshot |
| 22:48.20 | blip- | turns out kde4.2 is in the unsupported repos in 8.10... .I'm a little hesitant to upgrade all |
| 22:48.27 | blip- | it want's to pull in 168 megs |
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| 22:49.20 | Rasi | blip-: i wouldnt do that anyway |
| 22:49.26 | Rasi | jaunty is just a few days |
| 22:49.36 | Rasi | +release +in |
| 22:49.38 | Rasi | :P |
| 22:50.23 | blip- | you mean it takes a few days to go from unsupported to supported ? ie I should wait ? |
| 22:50.39 | blip- | I can't wait :) |
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| 22:51.19 | Half-Left | Upgrading to 4.2 is the only way, you know you want to :p |
| 22:51.26 | dmarkey | i'm using 4.3 here, its not bad, its still slow as hell though |
| 22:51.32 | Half-Left | Just do it! |
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| 22:51.42 | Rasi | dmarkey: 4.3 was hella fast on this machine |
| 22:51.52 | Rasi | and it had debugging symbols enabled |
| 22:52.17 | dmarkey | onece it goes beyond 10 windows kwin starts reallt struggling |
| 22:52.27 | Rasi | i am curious if they will manage to fix that dolphin issue |
| 22:52.40 | Rasi | about slowing down if you dont delete /tmp/kde-USERNAME |
| 22:52.50 | blip- | Half-Left: once it gets moved from unsupported to main... does that mean the package itself may get big fixes in that time ? will I then be able to update to bugfixed 4.2 deb package (if any)( |
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| 22:53.27 | Half-Left | blip-: You'll have to ask #ubuntu about that |
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| 22:53.34 | dmarkey | Rasi: do you not experience slowness if you have loads of windows open |
| 22:53.43 | mustu | Rasi: it's here http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8123/snapshot1e.png ...in the background you can see feedback is disabled.. |
| 22:54.04 | blip- | Half-Left: sadly they aren't that familiar with ubuntu over there :) |
| 22:54.36 | Rasi | mustu: ehm.. what exactly shouldnt be there... |
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| 22:54.43 | Rasi | real player i guess? |
| 22:54.53 | Half-Left | Who #Ubuntu not familiar with Ubuntu? :p |
| 22:54.56 | Rasi | i bet its real players fault :) |
| 22:55.09 | Rasi | who uses that crap anyway? :) |
| 22:55.24 | Rasi | i hated it 10 years ago and still do :P |
| 22:55.53 | mustu | Rasi: how do u manage to play real format files? |
| 22:56.20 | mustu | Rasi: but it happens also with firefox, adobe acrobat reader and other apps.... :| |
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| 22:56.29 | Rasi | mustu: mplayer plays them for me |
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| 22:56.32 | Rasi | or smplayer in kde |
| 22:57.00 | Rasi | mustu: probably fedora bug.... thats exactly the setting you have disabled |
| 22:57.06 | Rasi | it *Should* stop if disabled |
| 22:58.52 | mustu | Rasi: how i should report in fedora channel... what i should say .. what's happening in my taskbar?? |
| 22:59.19 | Rasi | say that disabling of launch-feedback in taskbar has no effect |
| 22:59.45 | mck182 | mustu: hm, going to try that |
| 22:59.53 | blip- | Rasi: trying out krusader now. It's kind of krazy, I have no idea what do it with it :) |
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| 23:00.20 | blip- | It's like a command center |
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| 23:00.41 | Rasi | get used to it.. you wont regret it :P |
| 23:00.58 | Rasi | 2-panel filemanagers are so much faster to handle |
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| 23:01.24 | Rasi | i think krusader.org has some nice documentation |
| 23:01.29 | mustu | mck182: do u use fedora? |
| 23:01.29 | mck182 | hm, the launch feedback really does not have any effect.... |
| 23:01.34 | mck182 | mustu: I do |
| 23:02.03 | mustu | lauch feedback irritates alot |
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| 23:02.25 | mck182 | I got used to it, but it doesn't work, that's a fact |
| 23:02.38 | Rasi | yea, seems to be fedoras fault then :P |
| 23:02.46 | Rasi | i guess they have a bug tracker |
| 23:02.54 | Rasi | but i'd be surprised if noone reported that by now |
| 23:03.13 | mck182 | Rasi: well I didn't noticed after using it for a year now :P |
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| 23:08.22 | Rasi | if i install a icon theme and systemsettings->appearance shows the folder icon correctly in the preview... |
| 23:08.35 | Rasi | ...why doesnt it use it as default? |
| 23:08.41 | Rasi | lemme make a screen to show you what i mean |
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| 23:09.26 | blip- | one of the most things I love about KDE4 is being able to download color themes from the system settings/kde-look directly |
| 23:09.39 | blip- | if only the thumbnails were larger so I can see what i'm downloadin |
| 23:09.48 | Rasi | http://carnager.dyndns.org/icons.png |
| 23:10.08 | Rasi | i always have to manually set the folder icon |
| 23:10.19 | Rasi | for every single folder... |
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| 23:10.40 | Half-Left | Maybe it's the icon theme itself |
| 23:10.50 | mck182 | Rasi: maybe all the folders have settings for that folder icon |
| 23:10.51 | blip- | don't you have to restart KDE ? |
| 23:10.53 | Rasi | but it displays correctly in systemsettings as you can see |
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| 23:10.54 | Half-Left | They just didn't make it right |
| 23:11.18 | Rasi | Half-Left: its a gtk icon theme, which follows freedesktop.org |
| 23:11.22 | Rasi | and works in thunar |
| 23:11.27 | Rasi | and other gtk filemanagers |
| 23:11.32 | Rasi | kde4 also uses freedesktop |
| 23:11.37 | Rasi | so it *should* be identical |
| 23:11.37 | blip- | it looks like a bad icon theme, look at the icons for Style/Colors and Icons in the system settings... they all look the same |
| 23:11.44 | Rasi | blip-: yes |
| 23:11.47 | Rasi | its not complete |
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| 23:11.51 | Half-Left | That means nothing if the maker of the icon theme didn't do it right |
| 23:11.56 | Rasi | but the folder icon is there |
| 23:12.11 | Tsion | is it possible for konsole's transparency to work with xcompmgr? it doesn't seem to work |
| 23:12.28 | Rasi | Half-Left: that somewhat doesnt make sense... if systemsettings says its present, dolphin should use it |
| 23:12.38 | Rasi | otherwise both shouldnt display it |
| 23:13.03 | Half-Left | Not really, depends on how it's done |
| 23:13.13 | Rasi | anyway.. is there a trick to inherit other icon themes from incomplete ones? |
| 23:13.22 | Rasi | to fill the gaps of missing icons |
| 23:14.00 | Half-Left | In the index file yes |
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| 23:15.28 | Rasi | simply "Inherit=blabla" ? |
| 23:15.30 | mck182 | Rasi: now I'm thinking, if you manually set the icons for folders, you may get wrong icons again with some different theme, because it will still use that old setting |
| 23:15.40 | Half-Left | As I remember yes |
| 23:15.51 | Rasi | mck182: i know that... but i shouldnt NEED to set a default folder icon |
| 23:16.14 | Half-Left | what theme is it? |
| 23:16.16 | Rasi | there are only 2 working kde4 icon themes |
| 23:16.22 | Rasi | tangoish and oxygen |
| 23:16.25 | Rasi | Half-Left: snowish |
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| 23:16.37 | Rasi | http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32599 |
| 23:16.43 | mck182 | Rasi: yeah I know, I'm just thinking about your current situation ;) |
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| 23:18.36 | Rasi | Half-Left: i also tried to convert the kde3 version of this icon theme with make-kde4-icons script |
| 23:18.41 | Rasi | the result was even worse |
| 23:19.05 | Half-Left | It applies the folders here, but not all of them |
| 23:19.43 | Rasi | what about newly created ones? |
| 23:19.57 | blip- | can someone give me a teaser/spoiler for what I'll see in 4.2 vs the 4.1 I'm using now ? |
| 23:19.58 | Half-Left | Nope |
| 23:20.13 | Rasi | blip-: less bugs :) |
| 23:20.24 | Half-Left | Rasi: I think it's cache |
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| 23:20.45 | Rasi | Half-Left: lemme kill my tmp dir |
| 23:20.49 | Half-Left | Which would explain this |
| 23:20.54 | Half-Left | No not temp |
| 23:21.06 | blip- | I can't imagine what 4.6 will be like |
| 23:21.12 | blip- | it'll take years to each that right ? |
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| 23:21.23 | Half-Left | The one in .kde4/cache-"hostname/kpc |
| 23:21.23 | Rasi | blip-: 4.3 is gonna rock already |
| 23:21.38 | Rasi | ok.. lemme try |
| 23:21.53 | blip- | http://polishlinux.org/kde/kde-43-early-preview/ |
| 23:22.06 | mck182 | blip-: actually just one year ;) |
| 23:22.09 | mck182 | and a half |
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| 23:22.37 | Half-Left | hmm strange |
| 23:22.40 | Rasi | no... deleting cache didnt have an effect |
| 23:22.41 | blip- | ye it seems things are going really fast. I remember trying 4.0 a few months ago, 4.1 is miles ahead |
| 23:23.28 | Rasi | Half-Left: i actually wonder where it takes those icons from |
| 23:23.28 | Half-Left | Rasi: Something is wrong with it because the action icons are not showing |
| 23:23.44 | Half-Left | The classic themes work fine |
| 23:23.58 | Rasi | classic? |
| 23:24.01 | Rasi | like tango? |
| 23:24.10 | Half-Left | The ones from kdeartwork |
| 23:24.27 | Half-Left | KDE-Classic |
| 23:24.30 | Rasi | yea |
| 23:24.41 | Rasi | classic, monochrome and oxygen work |
| 23:24.51 | Rasi | and are complete |
| 23:24.55 | blip- | wow --> Kopete can now communicate with Skype users. Well the plug-in is still a wrapper, communicating with Skype via their special API, so still the installed Skype is needed - launched in need. |
| 23:25.02 | dmarkey | anyone any tweaks for nvidia cards with kde4? |
| 23:25.03 | blip- | in 4.3 |
| 23:25.35 | dmarkey | yes |
| 23:25.35 | Rasi | Half-Left: i tried crystal for 4.x |
| 23:25.38 | Rasi | it has the same issue |
| 23:25.49 | Rasi | new folders are oxygen icons |
| 23:25.57 | blip- | is this from the KDE effects or is it a compiz cube ? http://polishlinux.org/reviews/kde_4_3/full/r949375-cube.jpg |
| 23:25.57 | Half-Left | What does it say inherit? |
| 23:25.57 | Rasi | only some show the crystal icon |
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| 23:26.07 | Rasi | Half-Left: it has an inherit line, yes |
| 23:26.11 | Rasi | for oxygen |
| 23:26.18 | Rasi | but why does it override SOME folder icons |
| 23:26.33 | Rasi | and crystal is one of the good guys.. :) |
| 23:26.35 | Half-Left | blip-: 4.2 can do that |
| 23:26.37 | mck182 | blip-: hmm....I'd say kwin....but don't know for sure |
| 23:26.57 | Half-Left | Not sure |
| 23:27.25 | Rasi | it seems all those icon themes dont provide "places" icons |
| 23:27.30 | mck182 | blip-: yeah, 4.2 has this effect :) |
| 23:27.36 | blip- | I don't think so, at least I haven't got a cube plugin in the effects area |
| 23:27.52 | Half-Left | It does |
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| 23:28.12 | blip- | what is it called |
| 23:28.13 | Half-Left | If not for you then you're missing something then |
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| 23:28.41 | Half-Left | 4.2 has Cube, cylinder and sphere |
| 23:28.58 | blip- | which secetion ? |
| 23:29.00 | blip- | section |
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| 23:29.23 | Half-Left | Window management |
| 23:29.26 | blip- | window management |
| 23:29.33 | blip- | yes I don't have any of those 3 |
| 23:29.39 | blip- | oh damn |
| 23:29.46 | Half-Left | Then check your installation |
| 23:29.46 | blip- | I forgot, I'm on kde4.1 :D |
| 23:29.53 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 23:30.05 | Half-Left | Duh |
| 23:30.27 | blip- | I didn't upgrade yet, Half-Left, do you think If I update to the unsupported repo now, i'll be able to update later on to a "final" version of the packages ? |
| 23:30.41 | blip- | Half-Left: I asked in ubuntu and linux but got no reply |
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| 23:32.00 | Half-Left | We don't support any package management here, only kde build from source |
| 23:32.44 | mustu | i've installed Nautilus ... how i can change my default file browser to Nautilus from Dolphin? |
| 23:32.44 | mck182 | blip-: maybe you may think about getting Kubuntu 9.04, this surely has 4.2 |
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| 23:33.17 | blip- | I just upgraded to 8.10 yesterday from 8.04. 9 is too big of a leap for now :) |
| 23:33.46 | Rasi | its worth it |
| 23:33.56 | Rasi | 1st kubuntu release that will not suck |
| 23:34.20 | Half-Left | The new Kubuntu is pretty good, but I like Fedora's better |
| 23:34.24 | mck182 | blip-: well anyway, I have kubuntu 8.10 on my other machine and kde 4.2 works great there...although I think it's those unofficial packages |
| 23:34.37 | mck182 | can't wait for F11 :) |
| 23:35.05 | blip- | thanks guys. gotta leave now. take care |
| 23:35.24 | mustu | mck182: does launch feedback works there on kbuntu? :p |
| 23:35.35 | Rasi | it surely works here on arch :) |
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| 23:35.51 | Half-Left | Despite it's pulseaudio and gnome libs reliance |
| 23:36.05 | mustu | How i can change the defualt file browser in KDE? |
| 23:36.18 | Rasi | systemsettings -> default applications |
| 23:36.39 | mck182 | mustu: no idea, I'm not using that machine :P |
| 23:36.41 | Rasi | some things are too easy :) |
| 23:36.51 | Half-Left | And Fedora is pure freeosftware as well |
| 23:37.00 | mck182 | mustu: and besides, I really don't care, I'm used to it ;) |
| 23:37.03 | Half-Left | freesoftware* |
| 23:37.17 | mustu | m getting "error loading data provider" whnever i try to install widgets or themes from internet |
| 23:38.10 | Rasi | mustu: it wouldnt work anyway with binary-plasmoids, kwin-styles and window decorations |
| 23:38.28 | Rasi | it works well with scripted plasmoids, emoticons, backgrounds, color schemes etc... |
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| 23:38.41 | mustu | Rasi: nautilus isn't appeared in Application Menu and also not in defualt application for file managers.. |
| 23:38.46 | mck182 | hm, they could implement some aujto build system for binary plasmoids so it will work :) |
| 23:39.04 | mck182 | mustu: you can always browse for the app |
| 23:39.07 | mustu | Rasi: BTW i didn't know what all these binary-plasmoids, kwin-styles are... |
| 23:39.14 | Rasi | mustu: there is a "other" option |
| 23:39.32 | Rasi | and using nautilus in kde... |
| 23:39.35 | Rasi | ...is crazy |
| 23:39.40 | Half-Left | hehe |
| 23:39.46 | mck182 | didn't want to say that first :D |
| 23:40.29 | Half-Left | I guess it's the only way to bring Nautilus into the 21st century :p |
| 23:41.03 | Rasi | at least the gnomeshell has opengl accelerated activities |
| 23:41.04 | mck182 | but hey, we all have a choice so let him choose what fits him best :) |
| 23:41.07 | Rasi | plasma does not :P |
| 23:41.09 | mustu | m worried y my KDE didn't updated the application menu... |
| 23:41.28 | Rasi | mustu: run kbuildsycoca4 |
| 23:41.34 | Rasi | in a terminal |
| 23:41.41 | Half-Left | Sure, thats why it's there |
| 23:42.08 | mustu | hehe... seems m kind of folish... but isn't nautilus much lighter then Dolphin! |
| 23:42.10 | Rasi | nautilus isnt bad.. its just overkill in a qt enviroment |
| 23:42.18 | Half-Left | Rasi: It does in Qt4.5 |
| 23:42.27 | Half-Left | with* |
| 23:42.32 | Rasi | Half-Left: no... it doesnt, i talked to them yesterday |
| 23:42.37 | mustu | so what is the Qt now... |
| 23:42.39 | Rasi | hit the "zoom out" button |
| 23:42.41 | Half-Left | And raster mode it faster anyway |
| 23:42.41 | Rasi | and see kde crawl |
| 23:43.03 | Rasi | make that with 9 desktops and you are lucky if kde reacts at all :) |
| 23:43.18 | Half-Left | Qt4.5 has OpenGL mode, it's just experimental |
| 23:43.32 | Rasi | i know |
| 23:43.34 | Rasi | but plasma doesnt |
| 23:43.44 | Rasi | its only about activities |
| 23:43.49 | Half-Left | How do you mean? |
| 23:44.13 | Half-Left | Qt can do that anyway |
| 23:44.31 | Rasi | i know qt has opengl support.. but plasma cant make use of it yet |
| 23:44.34 | Half-Left | Plasma has OpenGL support, thats why you have a OpenGL: widget |
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| 23:44.41 | Rasi | there is a prealpha lib for it |
| 23:44.46 | Rasi | but its very very unstable |
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| 23:45.18 | Rasi | Half-Left: run kwin --replace -graphicsystem opengl, get 9 virtual desktops and zoom out |
| 23:45.25 | Rasi | you will see it doesnt use opengl at all |
| 23:45.44 | pinotree | kwin has "native" forced as graphicssystem |
| 23:45.45 | Rasi | and i really REALLY hope they fix this until 4.3 |
| 23:45.45 | Half-Left | Raster mode is good enough for that |
| 23:46.07 | Half-Left | It's very smooth with activities |
| 23:46.17 | Rasi | Half-Left: well i am dependent on opengl... my graphiccard is broken in 2d mode |
| 23:46.20 | Rasi | :/ |
| 23:46.43 | Half-Left | Well thats your problem :) |
| 23:46.49 | Rasi | Half-Left: but i will try raster now |
| 23:46.52 | mck182 | that's first time I hear broken 2d and working 3d as it's mostly the other way :D |
| 23:46.59 | Rasi | mck182: yea :) |
| 23:47.00 | pinotree | Rasi: <pinotree> kwin has "native" forced as graphicssystem |
| 23:47.38 | pinotree | so using kwin -graphicssystem <whatever> won't work |
| 23:49.35 | Half-Left | Rasi: They only have OpenGL, their svg support is useless anyway :p |
| 23:49.46 | Rasi | hmmmmm |
| 23:49.58 | Rasi | raster isnt working for me at all it seems |
| 23:50.07 | Rasi | pinotree: i am sure i had it working |
| 23:50.15 | pinotree | nope |
| 23:50.47 | Rasi | how can i use raster then |
| 23:50.57 | pinotree | with kwin? you cannot |
| 23:51.05 | Rasi | no i mean in general |
| 23:51.11 | Half-Left | Recompile your Qt4.5 :) |
| 23:51.35 | Rasi | wtf... |
| 23:51.45 | Rasi | qt always comes with ONE backend only? |
| 23:51.52 | pinotree | no |
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| 23:57.06 | Half-Left | As I remember, Raster uses it's own way rather than using Xorg, thats why it's fast |
| 23:58.06 | Rasi | Half-Left: you are right |
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| 23:58.06 | Rasi | plasma -graphicssystem raster is quite fast |
| 23:59.17 | Rasi | now i just need to find a way to always start it this way |
