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00:06.51 | nanothief | trelane, you could try in system settings -> advanced -> file associations, and select gwenview for filetypes you don't want firefox to open |
00:07.13 | nanothief | or make some new filetypes if needed |
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00:11.00 | lgrinberg | I want to configure KDE so that "lock screen" actually runs "xset dpms force off && qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock" rather than just "qdbus org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver /ScreenSaver Lock" |
00:11.06 | lgrinberg | (this is KDE 4.2) |
00:11.07 | lgrinberg | how do I do that? |
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00:14.48 | mpalacio | I can not start any kde 4.2 application from kde trunk |
00:14.55 | mpalacio | krita: symbol lookup error: /home/kde/KDE/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK6KStyle26standardIconImplementationEN6QStyle14StandardPixmapEPK12QStyleOptionPK7QWidget |
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00:16.20 | lgrinberg | Where is the "lock screen" command configured in KDE? |
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00:18.23 | yowshi | any i just switched to kde can i get some help configuring it? |
00:19.16 | lgrinberg | yowshi, what do you need? |
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00:20.48 | yowshi | lgrinberg: i am trying to get a second panel up on the top of the window figure out how to get my app launchers from gone onto it put the addons from the firefox in gnome into the kde firefox which seems to be missing them and fix pidgin so new posts dont seem so sticky when showing up on a full im window |
00:21.02 | yowshi | from gnome |
00:21.26 | yowshi | lgrinberg: oh yeah and kde is bunching together my windows in the bottom bar i dont want that |
00:22.17 | lgrinberg | yowshi, right click on your current panel, select panel options > add panel |
00:22.31 | lgrinberg | and if it's in the wrong place, click its little swirly thing, click "screen edge" and drag it to the top |
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00:23.08 | lgrinberg | yowshi, you can right click where the windows are being bunched (not on a window, but next to it), click "task manager settings" and configure "grouping" |
00:23.14 | lgrinberg | (e.g. "Do not group") |
00:23.37 | lgrinberg | and Firefox has nothing to do with GNOME -- you just have to migrate your mozilla profile (move ~/.mozilla) |
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00:24.40 | yowshi | wait ok click on a space next tpo one of the grouped window tabs? |
00:24.48 | Walzmyn | yowshi, or you can tell it to upgroup certian windows. so if you wanted to keep gimp or something together |
00:25.22 | lgrinberg | yowshi, yes |
00:25.52 | yowshi | cool anyway to move the clock and running apps icons to the top panel? |
00:26.07 | yowshi | or have the windows that are open move up ther |
00:26.09 | yowshi | e? |
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00:27.11 | peaches | i want to change the number of items that show up in kde's menu 'recently used' application and documents. any way to to that via gui or config file? |
00:28.14 | yowshi | also where do i move my .mozilla stuff to? |
00:28.48 | yowshi | hmmm wieerd the addons are listed in the tools addons section just not active |
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00:30.27 | lgrinberg | yowhi, you can add and remove stuff from the panel by right clicking on it and choosing "add widgets" |
00:30.56 | lgrinberg | yowshi, and if this is the same computer, then I have no idea -- .mozilla should be in the same place |
00:31.07 | lgrinberg | anyway, best of luck. I have to leave |
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01:14.09 | yowshi | can someone help me move my app launchers from gnome to kde? |
01:14.40 | Dhraakellian | I turned the fscking screensaver off. why does it keep launching? |
01:14.45 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
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01:16.48 | Dhraakellian | KDE 4.2 from the OpenSUSE 11.1 KDE:KDE4:Factory:Desktop repo |
01:19.03 | yowshi | there rally outgha be some kind of integrate settings thing |
01:20.49 | rdieter | Dhraakellian: I've noticed that myself from time to time once I tweaked screensaver/dpms settings, then with further configuration... it went away (been fine for awhile). wierd, alright. |
01:21.46 | Shirakawasuna | yowshi: huh? |
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01:22.43 | yowshi | Shirakawasuna: for things like getting app launchers from a gnome panel into kde |
01:23.55 | Shirakawasuna | yowshi: nope, can't transfer that |
01:25.33 | yowshi | :( |
01:30.20 | Dhraakellian | rdieter: any idea what made it go away? |
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01:33.41 | rdieter | Dhraakellian: sorry, no. |
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02:28.39 | evan_ | Anybody know how to disable plasma as part of the startkde sequence? Or where it gets called? I run KDE4.2 atop ion3, and don't use any desktop whatsoever. I just want to comment out the exec of plasma itselt. |
02:28.47 | evan_ | (Incidentally, for anybody who cares, most plasmoids run perfectly nicely in the frames of a framing window manager) |
02:30.48 | evan_ | And for those who might be curious as to what happens, plasma winds up running as a fullscreen app on a new virtual desktop, with the panel as a nicely framed plasmoid on desktop one. Odd... I'd like to stop that "extra" desktop from popping up. |
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03:02.22 | Digital_Pioneer | Hey, I seem to have lost some icons somehow. Most of the icons under the "Leave" menu are missing (Just question marks). I use KDE 4.2 |
03:02.28 | Digital_Pioneer | Any idea what happened. |
03:02.30 | Digital_Pioneer | ? |
03:02.39 | Dozzzie | QUICKLY! RUN "init 0" as root! |
03:03.01 | eliasp | ;) |
03:03.18 | Digital_Pioneer | Dozzzie: You know, such advice is generally frowned upon in IRC. |
03:03.34 | Dozzzie | sowwy |
03:03.51 | Digital_Pioneer | Though anyone with a computer should be fully aware that when someone says to do anything "quickly" and "as root" it's probably a bad idea. :P |
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03:04.15 | dudek | Hi folks! |
03:05.06 | Dozzzie | haaaaiii dudek :):) |
03:05.26 | dudek | Is there someone here that uses Kommander? |
03:05.28 | dudek | :S |
03:05.54 | dudek | I'm trying to use it under Slackware Linux, but I can't!.. --' |
03:06.13 | Dozzzie | install ubuntu :) |
03:06.17 | dudek | LoooL.. |
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03:06.30 | dudek | No, thanks. |
03:06.36 | eliasp | Dozzzie: Ubuntu sucks hard when it comes to delivering a good KDE configuration.... |
03:07.19 | gades | exist a k3b version for kde4? |
03:07.55 | dudek | Nobody to "help" me? |
03:08.06 | dudek | thx.. --' |
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03:08.43 | eliasp | gades: yes, but it isn't really 'ready for production' yet... the maintainer (Sebastian Trüg) is busy with his other projects (Nepomuk etc.) and the birth of his daughter... |
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03:17.24 | aib | there is a bug in Okular, documented all over the internet. it defaults to A4 paper, ignores your okular print settings and ignores your cups settings |
03:17.35 | aib | how can I make sure this is an officially reported bug? |
03:17.47 | eliasp | aib: check http://bugs.kde.org |
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03:18.35 | aib | https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=okular+a4 |
03:18.38 | aib | Zero bugs found |
03:19.27 | dudek | I'm trying to create a Dialog with the Kommander. I'm using slackware for this, but when I try to run my script, I got an error, telling me that there is somenthing wrong with '@'s |
03:19.29 | eliasp | aib: please use the 'Report New Wish or Bug' link to report this issue |
03:20.14 | dudek | Someone to help me? |
03:20.22 | aib | eliasp, why do I feel like this will accomplish nothing? |
03:20.36 | aib | eliasp, this bug is widespread and prevalent. there is no way you could be a developer of okular and not be aware of it |
03:20.42 | aib | it happens every single time you print a pdf |
03:21.12 | aib | http://www.google.com/search?q=okular+a4 |
03:21.17 | eliasp | aib: maybe all okular devs are from the A4 region of this world... so they didn't stumble upon it yet... you could also join #okular and report it directly there... |
03:22.17 | eliasp | aib: but they'll surely tell you to please report this bug at bugs.kde.org as they can't keep track of things being told them on IRC... that's what bug.kde.org is for... but you could file a bug there and the point the devs in #okular to this bugreport... my experiences showed that's the best way of getting the attention of developers |
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03:22.37 | Dozzzie | hey! do you guys have cp on linux? |
03:22.57 | eliasp | Dozzzie: cp? just /bin/cp ?? |
03:23.08 | Dozzzie | like child porn |
03:23.12 | dudek | LoL |
03:23.16 | dudek | AEhUEaueaUEhuaehuaehuaehaea |
03:23.28 | aib | ok, thanks eliasp |
03:23.38 | dudek | Dozzzie: Why do you are asking ...? |
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03:23.48 | dudek | Are you a child lover? |
03:23.54 | dudek | :@ |
03:23.54 | Dozzzie | no... just for the lulz :P |
03:24.27 | Dozzzie | dudek brasil? |
03:24.33 | dudek | Yeah!, I'm |
03:24.36 | dudek | Why? |
03:24.50 | dudek | vc tambem? |
03:24.54 | dudek | LoL |
03:25.03 | Dozzzie | portugal :p |
03:25.20 | aib | bugs.kde.org is broken? it forces you to enter 4 keywords from this list https://bugs.kde.org/describekeywords.cgi |
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03:26.02 | dudek | fala fii.. |
03:26.02 | dudek | :p |
03:26.03 | dudek | hehe |
03:26.06 | Dozzzie | hehe |
03:26.09 | dudek | Mas aí.. |
03:26.11 | Dozzzie | 44chan? |
03:26.16 | Dozzzie | 55chan* |
03:26.19 | eliasp | aib: uhm, that's bad... worked for me some hours ago just fine... maybe dfaure is doing some maintenance currently... please retry it in some minutes/hours or report it to sysadmin@kde.org |
03:26.20 | dudek | LooL.. |
03:26.27 | dudek | Tu curte pedofilia é? |
03:26.31 | Dozzzie | nao LOL |
03:26.33 | Dozzzie | curto ser trol |
03:26.34 | Dozzzie | troll |
03:26.51 | Dozzzie | e faço coisas como falar em portugues num canal ingles |
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03:27.04 | aib | "WARNING You have not entered enough keywords to describe this bug. Please enter at least 4 keywords to describe this bug, so we can look if similar bug reports already exist." |
03:27.09 | dudek | ahh.. hehe |
03:27.13 | aib | you can't make up keywords *sigh* |
03:27.15 | dudek | baSebAehaUeha |
03:27.44 | aib | i give up. sudo apt-get install remove kde |
03:27.46 | eliasp | aib: that means you should have a more elaborate 'subject' for this bug... it's not about the keywords |
03:27.55 | aib | lol |
03:28.02 | Dozzzie | eliasp also means YOU SUCK! |
03:28.02 | dudek | Dozzzie, usa Linux? |
03:28.09 | eliasp | just use more than 4 words for describing the subject of the bug |
03:28.17 | Dozzzie | dudek tou preparando para instalar |
03:28.18 | eliasp | Dozzzie: shut up, you're near to being kicked |
03:28.28 | dudek | Ahh..serio? @@ |
03:28.30 | dudek | Que distro? |
03:28.39 | dudek | eliasp é de SP, Brasil? |
03:28.48 | aib | no that wasn't it eliasp |
03:28.57 | aib | but "typo typo typo typo" got me past the 4 keyword requirement. |
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03:29.08 | Dozzzie | eliasp push my care button |
03:29.15 | aib | i suppose i should file a bug report. |
03:29.30 | Dozzzie | file a bug report on eliasp's brain also |
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03:32.18 | dudek | O Dozzzie |
03:32.23 | dudek | como cê descubriu que eu sou brasileiro? |
03:32.28 | dudek | Ah.. |
03:32.58 | aib | rofl. so I file the okular bug report. do I get an e-mail letting me know it was successful? no, I get an e-mail that says "Your message to Okular-devel awaits moderator approval" |
03:33.07 | Dozzzie | <dudek> AEhUEaueaUEhuaehuaehuaehaea |
03:33.40 | eliasp | aib: that's because okular bugs go by default as CC to the okular-devel mailinglist... |
03:33.46 | eliasp | aib: everything's fine so far |
03:34.04 | Dozzzie | your head isn't. believe me |
03:34.09 | Dozzzie | you need a shrink |
03:35.37 | dudek | kkkk |
03:35.38 | dudek | :p |
03:35.39 | dudek | aehauheaea |
03:35.47 | dudek | só brasileiro ri assim é? |
03:35.49 | dudek | LoL |
03:35.51 | dudek | aehuehea.. nao sabia |
03:35.52 | aib | eliasp, everything is not ok! due to okular I was forced to install non-free software on my linux box just to print pdfs! gasp! *dies inside* |
03:36.09 | aib | also, quite ironic that the bug system is extremely buggy |
03:36.15 | aib | i wonder if that reflects on kde |
03:36.17 | eliasp | aib: hehe, ok.. that's true |
03:36.55 | Dozzzie | sim, dudek |
03:36.56 | Dozzzie | hehe |
03:37.09 | dudek | Uia.. ehe.. legla |
03:37.15 | dudek | legal* |
03:37.24 | dudek | Qtos anos cê tem? |
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03:38.56 | jmonreal | could someone help me compiling konsole? |
03:38.58 | Gumby | hi all. I am having issues with kmail resolving a domain. I can ping and telnet to the domain just fine, but kmail can not connect to it. does anyone know why this might be? |
03:39.11 | Dozzzie | dudek 19 |
03:39.18 | eliasp | jmonreal: why do you wanna compile it? isn't your distro providing packages? |
03:39.38 | dudek | hm.. |
03:39.39 | dudek | tenho 16 |
03:39.54 | jmonreal | yes, but i wanna start making some adjustments i would like to have and try them |
03:40.00 | eliasp | Gumby: if you enabled SSL/TLS in the kmail configuration, the port changes automatically... depending on your used mail protocol |
03:40.03 | jmonreal | ive downloaded konsole from svn |
03:40.54 | eliasp | jmonreal: so take a look at techbase, how to setup a dev environment: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development |
03:41.09 | Dozzzie | How can i see cp on KDE? |
03:41.17 | jmonreal | eliasp, thanks |
03:41.21 | Gumby | eliasp, the configuration works locally. Ive just updated my domains external DNS to include the address of the server. Its propogated as ping/telnet works so its not a port issue |
03:41.24 | eliasp | jmonreal: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started |
03:42.13 | jmonreal | eliasp, ive already been there |
03:42.19 | eliasp | jmonreal: ok |
03:42.28 | eliasp | jmonreal: so where are you're stuck? |
03:42.55 | Dozzzie | in the ass |
03:43.01 | jmonreal | i have the source |
03:43.06 | Gumby | hrm.... actually it might be a dns issue. one second the address resolves and the next it doesnt. strange |
03:43.17 | jmonreal | eliasp, i wanna know how to compile it |
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03:43.47 | jmonreal | eliasp, i did cmake . -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/jmonreal/usr |
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03:44.41 | jmonreal | eliasp, and got CMake Error: Error in cmake code at |
03:44.41 | jmonreal | /home/jmonreal/svn/konsole/src/CMakeLists.txt:3: |
03:44.41 | jmonreal | Unknown CMake command "macro_optional_find_package". |
03:44.41 | jmonreal | -- Configuring done |
03:45.26 | eliasp | jmonreal: you're probably missing the kde-devel packages of your distribution... |
03:45.45 | jmonreal | i think i have them |
03:46.31 | jmonreal | nop, i didnt install them, sorry |
03:46.33 | jmonreal | now im gonna |
03:46.43 | eliasp | jmonreal: sorry, don't know what to do then... Gentoo helps me way too much with this CMake stuff, never had to fiddle with it so far ;-) |
03:46.46 | eliasp | jmonreal: ah, ok |
03:47.09 | eliasp | jmonreal: ppl in #kde-devel might probably know more.... |
03:47.29 | jmonreal | eliasp, i had gentoo for 2 weeks, but had to many problems |
03:47.45 | jmonreal | i installed it on stage 1 |
03:47.49 | eliasp | jmonreal: i have Gentoo since 8 years - and nothing else... i just love it ;-) |
03:47.57 | eliasp | jmonreal: uhm, ok.. you should have used stage 3 |
03:48.03 | jmonreal | yeah i know |
03:48.04 | eliasp | stage 1 is deprecated since several years |
03:48.19 | jmonreal | i just heard that stage one makes your computer faster |
03:48.24 | jmonreal | but it wasnt that much |
03:48.26 | eliasp | jmonreal: nope, it doesn't |
03:48.47 | jmonreal | and the other thing i had problems was not knowing much about use flags |
03:48.55 | eliasp | jmonreal: the same speedup provided by a stage 1 install is 'emerge -e @system' |
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03:49.27 | jmonreal | perhaps ill give it a try again |
03:49.42 | jmonreal | if I do, could you help me if i have questions? |
03:49.48 | eliasp | jmonreal: yeah, Gentoo is a distribution which takes some time getting used to it... but once you got it how all this stuff works, it provides the IMHO absolutely best linux experience (for advanced users) |
03:50.21 | eliasp | jmonreal: sure... as long as i'm around.. just ping me or query me... i'm most of the time on freenode |
03:50.30 | jmonreal | ok |
03:50.32 | jmonreal | thanks |
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03:51.31 | Sho_ | eliasp: fully agree btw |
03:51.40 | Sho_ | (on Gentoo) |
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03:53.36 | jmonreal | eliasp, so i should download the last version, right? |
03:54.05 | jmonreal | eliasp, i mean about gentoo |
03:56.13 | dudek | falow Dozzzie |
03:56.14 | dudek | abraços |
03:56.16 | dudek | vo nessa |
03:57.34 | jmonreal | with minimal i get the system installed right? |
03:57.39 | jmonreal | sorry |
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04:01.49 | Dozzzie | fica bem dudek |
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04:31.41 | gnuboi | Anybody using KDE 4.2 please send me the screenshot of about KDE window |
04:31.42 | gnuboi | please |
04:34.03 | gnuboi | send me at linux2.6.27@gmail.com |
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04:42.30 | astromme | Is there any way to get KWin to remember the positions of all of my application windows? |
04:42.30 | astromme | Right now I can set a window-specific setting to remember the position, but that applies the same remembered posisiton to each window instead of remembering individually |
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04:54.00 | gnuboi | astromme: are u using KDe 4.2 |
04:54.16 | astromme | gnuboi: yes |
04:54.42 | gnuboi | then please send me the screenshot of About KDE window in linux2.6.27@gmail.com |
04:54.45 | gnuboi | i really need it |
04:54.48 | gnuboi | now i am at cyber |
04:54.53 | gnuboi | where there is windows |
04:55.11 | astromme | sorry, I'm sure you can find one online |
04:55.29 | gnuboi | i didn;t find |
04:55.35 | gnuboi | u can take screenshot and send me |
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06:42.33 | travis_ | Hello, I am new to KDE and having an issue with font sizes. |
06:42.48 | travis_ | When I change my resolution my fonts become huge. |
06:43.27 | travis_ | It's almost like the applications have been scaled to the new resolution instead of being resized. |
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06:44.06 | travis_ | If anybody could help me, or has any idea what would cause this, your comments are greatly appreciated. |
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06:46.55 | jessie | hey.... when trying to set the time autmatically, i get, "cannot contact pool.ntp.org" |
06:47.20 | navetz | hey, i cannot change my background image anymore |
06:47.22 | navetz | i changed it |
06:47.26 | navetz | and nothign happens |
06:47.33 | navetz | it still uses the old one |
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06:49.38 | Shaan7 | jes |
06:49.51 | Shaan7 | jessie: have you tried another server? |
06:50.17 | jessie | i have. Shaan7 |
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06:51.01 | Shaan7 | jes |
06:51.23 | Shaan7 | jessie: well, happened to me once, but the server was the problem, changing it worked for me. |
06:51.56 | jessie | what server are you using? |
06:52.03 | Shaan7 | jessie: is the system time too different from what it should be (i.e. what the server would have reported?) |
06:52.40 | Shaan7 | jessie: im using the asia one |
06:54.39 | jessie | hmmm.. i don't think so3 |
06:54.41 | jessie | *. |
06:55.17 | Shaan7 | jessie: ok, asked because if the system time varies too much with the server, ntp fails to sync |
06:55.39 | Shaan7 | jessie: have you tried to ping pool.ntp.org ? |
06:55.57 | jessie | hmmmm.... i dunno. but i'm too tired to mess right now. |
06:56.39 | jessie | pings fine |
06:56.55 | Shaan7 | jessie: k, but you can try ping pool.ntp.org |
06:57.31 | jessie | it works fine. |
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06:59.54 | jessie | command line? lol |
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07:00.13 | jessie | works fine from command line |
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08:13.40 | Simon_ | and hello Dumble |
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08:33.57 | chilkewar | is thre any Linux user free to talk |
08:34.15 | Simon_ | me |
08:34.18 | chilkewar | i want some idea about virtualization |
08:36.01 | chilkewar | i need some help |
08:36.19 | chilkewar | vitualisation in Linux |
08:37.07 | chilkewar | i want to download virtual machine to be installed on Fedora 10 |
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08:42.28 | schmidtsmikey | hello |
08:43.12 | Scorcerer | chilkewar: try virtualbox, it's nice and simple |
08:43.44 | schmidtsmikey | i installed KDE 4.2. Now Krusader asks me every time for the programm to open the file |
08:43.53 | schmidtsmikey | it does not save the configuration |
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08:46.06 | schmidtsmikey | It doesn't matter to click on "Remember File Association for this type" |
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08:50.12 | QWonder | i just installed kubuntu to check out kde, apparently that was a bad idea |
08:50.22 | QWonder | not because i'm having problems, that would be fine |
08:50.38 | QWonder | except that the only people in #kubuntu willing to help me don't know how |
08:51.24 | QWonder | i'm thinking about trying out opensuse |
08:51.29 | QWonder | any suggestions? |
08:51.53 | QWonder | hah |
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09:13.20 | Moult | QWonder: gentoo. :D |
09:16.51 | gh7d395pi69wd | gentoo is easy to use even if for a beginner |
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09:17.16 | gh7d395pi69wd | as long as you follow the guide for installing |
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09:20.16 | siyman | sry guys, I've little questions about the knetworkmanager |
09:20.30 | siyman | may anyone help me pls? |
09:22.04 | Duesentrieb_ | siyman: i'm pretty clueless myself, but actually *asking* the question generally helps in getting an answer. |
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09:22.14 | siyman | danke dir |
09:22.22 | Duesentrieb_ | (also, note that it's in the middle of the night in the US) |
09:23.09 | siyman | well, it's not very disgusting but the the knetworkmanager doesn't start automatically (KDE 4.2) and even has no pixmap |
09:23.45 | siyman | I put it inside the controlcenter autostart but I think it should start on it's own, shouldn't it? |
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09:36.20 | XBOCT-XBOCT | How can I add an app to menu from the CLI ? |
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09:37.27 | drantin | place the appropriate .desktop file in /usr/share/applications? |
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09:41.26 | XBOCT-XBOCT | drantin, thanks, but where can I read how to create .desctop? Our dear google omits the point and shows nothing.... |
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09:45.27 | Aides | XBOCT-XBOCT: just read any other desktop file and create similar, the syntax is pretty straightforward |
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09:54.22 | XBOCT-XBOCT | Aides, I still can't guess all the options I need. I want to create an installation script for the app in form of SWF file. |
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09:54.31 | XBOCT-XBOCT | I need to open it in firefox |
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09:55.45 | damada | hi, I am looking for the function to have the panel always stretch to 100% of the screen width (or height)... Currently, after logging in to a machine with a smaller monitor, the panel is shrunk to the smaller size and I have to manually enlarge it again => very annoying |
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09:57.09 | Moult | hey guys, can i get koffice on 4.2? i think i heard some bugs or something about it that said it was borked? |
09:57.11 | FilipeMaia | Does anyone know why xmgrace crashes on KDE4.2? |
09:57.28 | FilipeMaia | (I mean it doesn't even start) |
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09:58.26 | XBOCT-XBOCT | damada, try setting it to 99% width. This workaround helps me in case of VirtualBox resizing |
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09:59.29 | damada | XBOCT-XBOCT: how can I use numbers at all in KDE4? There are only those handles... |
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10:06.19 | XBOCT-XBOCT | damada, you had to mention your version. Never saw 4 yet |
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10:06.53 | damada | XBOCT-XBOCT: true, I thought most question coming up here are KDE4-related already |
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10:07.31 | damada | in KDE3, panel resizing to 100% worked flawless for me |
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10:08.38 | Moult | i am finding that panel resizing in 4.2 seems to crash my X and lag it to an unsuable state, i haven't tried debugging it yet though |
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10:09.40 | damada | brave new world |
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10:25.55 | Rasi | anyone else has the problem that firefox is quite slow in kde4? |
10:26.00 | Rasi | its MUCH faster in gnome... |
10:26.14 | Rasi | while the rest of kde is quite the opposite |
10:26.15 | siyman | sry, not for me, its actually the same |
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10:26.41 | Rasi | alone the startup is at least 2-3x as long as in a gnome session |
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10:28.53 | sandsmark | Rasi: it's probably starting up half of Gnome |
10:29.17 | Rasi | hmm |
10:29.23 | Rasi | it doesnt have any gnome deps, so i doubt it |
10:29.49 | Rasi | its about time opera releases a 64bit qt4 build :/ |
10:30.28 | Rasi | or some of the webkit browser actually render with speed |
10:30.48 | Rasi | for some reason arora/rekonq/konqueror are the slowest browsers on my system |
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10:47.24 | nondysjunction | hello |
10:48.01 | nondysjunction | http://pastebin.ca/1344835 <--- kate-4.2.0 build log under gentoo, build fails, perhaps one of you brilliant #kde folks can shed some light on this? :) |
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10:49.41 | pinotree | nondysjunction: we don't support this kind of split building gentoo insanely does; please ask in #gentoo-kde |
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10:51.14 | nondysjunction | pinotree: fair. Can you explain to me why it's insane? (Not being confrontational, legitimately curious! :) ) |
10:51.38 | MaNI | more work to maintain |
10:52.16 | pinotree | nondysjunction: because often kde modules need stuff coming from other subdirectories |
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10:54.08 | pozic | How do I get into the control center? What's the name of the binary? |
10:54.31 | sandsmark | in kde4 it's systemsettings, in kde3 it's kcontrol |
10:55.13 | pozic | sandsmark: that only gives me a search box and when I type in proxy nothing gets returned. |
10:55.27 | pozic | sandsmark: (kde4) |
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10:56.54 | pozic | systemsettings(7591) KServiceFactory::findServiceByDesktopPath: "findServiceByDesktopPath: not found" |
10:56.58 | pozic | systemsettings(7591) MainWindow::readMenu: "" Looking for children in ' "" ' |
10:57.27 | pozic | That's what I get on the terminal, and I get the search field as mentioned above. \ |
10:57.43 | pozic | I just want to change the proxy settings for kopete. |
10:58.19 | pozic | What's the point of releasing anything that is completely broken? |
10:58.29 | pinotree | ... for you |
10:58.42 | pinotree | try running as user: kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental |
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11:01.00 | pozic | pinotree: it is broken if a user needs to perform this command. Now, I did get some useful output. |
11:01.14 | pinotree | pozic: not at all |
11:01.52 | pozic | pinotree: and since I didn't change anything, there are others with the same issue. |
11:02.09 | pinotree | don't assume your problems are everyone's problems |
11:02.32 | pozic | pinotree: computers are designed to perform the same instructions every single time. |
11:02.56 | pozic | pinotree: by that rule, and since I didn't change anything, I am right by construction. Sorry. |
11:03.28 | pinotree | pozic: there are different things between your computer and other's computers |
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11:03.44 | pinotree | difference system libraries, different local configurations, different distributions |
11:03.57 | pozic | pinotree: if an application behaves differently, the application is broken. |
11:04.05 | pozic | "platform independence" |
11:04.26 | pinotree | application can broke because other stuff breaks it |
11:04.34 | pozic | If you cannot support multiple platforms, just support one configuration. |
11:04.46 | nanothief | pozic, what platform are you using? |
11:04.55 | siyman | oO pozic, are you little crazy? |
11:04.56 | pozic | nanothief: the problem has already been solved. |
11:04.58 | pinotree | and sometimes this is not something that can be fixed from the application POV |
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11:06.10 | pozic | More errors "Could not parse the XML file". Really interesting. |
11:06.50 | pozic | I think all of these problems is why I use Gnome. |
11:07.23 | pinotree | probably not |
11:07.44 | nanothief | well it sounds like you have some corrupted config files. Did you do an upgrade from kde3? Or is this a clean install? |
11:08.10 | ayq | Hello. Got a problem with KDE 4.2 - when I alt-tab (or meta-tab), it doesn't switch to the window I want when I let go of alt. I have to press a key again for it to switch to the desired window. How do I make it switch instantly to the window that I select when I let go of the keys? |
11:08.46 | pozic | nanothief: the notion of corrupted config files is absurd to begin with. If it is "corrupt", the application should say "expected this and that here, but found this and that". |
11:08.57 | pozic | nanothief: anything else is a hack and stupid. |
11:09.27 | MaNI | pozic, why don't you fix it yourself if it is that simple and all the other software authors in the world are seemingly stupid? |
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11:10.57 | nanothief | pozic, that would take a huge amount of work to do (as error parsing like that is difficult), and most users wouldn't benefit from it anyway. I'm just trying to figure out how it got like this in the first place. |
11:11.08 | pozic | MaNI: 1) I write far more interesting software 2) not all are stupid |
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11:13.30 | Ace2017_- | is it just me or is konsole VERY slow to resize? |
11:13.35 | Ace2017_- | other apps are much faster |
11:13.43 | MaNI | now slow for me |
11:14.10 | nanothief | Ace2017_-, is this 4.2? Because it is very fast for me (actually faster than 3.5 somehow) |
11:14.14 | Ace2017_- | yes |
11:14.22 | Ace2017_- | nanothief: whats your setup? |
11:15.04 | nanothief | archlinux, 256MB nvidia graphics card, 2GB ram, 2.1GH dual core |
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11:15.23 | Ace2017_- | found the problem |
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11:15.45 | Ace2017_- | if konsole is started with effects enabled its VERY slow to resize, otherwise its just as fast as other apps |
11:15.47 | ayq | Hello - I got disconnected there. If anyone replied to my question, could you please repeat it? |
11:16.25 | siyman | sry, but no one replied to your question |
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11:17.38 | Ace2017_- | ayq: so hold down alt, hold down tab, release alt, release tab, doesn't make you switch the next app? |
11:17.44 | pozic | Ah, great, the sole reason for installing kde, configuring the proxy, was useless, because kopete doesn't support the "HTTP method". |
11:18.11 | Ace2017_- | ayq: or so hold down alt, hold down tab, release tab, release alt |
11:18.33 | pozic | Did I mention that I love KDE already? No? Oh, then it's ok. |
11:19.44 | ayq | ok - I hold down alt, then press and release tab. The window switcher appears. I press and release tab once more, it highlights the next window. I then let go of alt - the window switcher does not disappear. I have to press-and-release (e.g.) tab again to make that window active. |
11:21.17 | nanothief | ayq: try disabling desktop effects to see if that is causing it |
11:21.26 | ayq | tried that already. Same effect. |
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11:23.58 | Ace2017_- | ayq: have you tried dante or transconnect with kopete? |
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11:24.33 | ayq | Ace2017_: sorry, wrong person :-) |
11:24.33 | Ace2017_- | thats for the person who wanted to use a proxy with kopete |
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11:59.35 | Mirra | pling plong |
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12:00.14 | Mirra | Seeing as more and more apps are using/offering mysql, wouldn't it be a reasonable idea to give KDE an own server instance all those apps could use? |
12:00.24 | Mirra | (nepomuk, akonadi, amarok... ) |
12:00.53 | Mirra | at least the first two bring their own stand-alone servers, I think it could be better to combine them?! |
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12:03.44 | rdale | i think we want to use open link virtuoso as a common db |
12:03.58 | ayq | my problem with alt-tabbing is probably rare, since nobody seems to have heard of it before - would that be an accurate assumption? |
12:06.50 | MoDaX | rdale: are you kidding? |
12:07.08 | rdale | no |
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12:09.18 | StR|Sangreal | pls how can i delete configs for command launch window in kde? |
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12:11.17 | MoDaX | rdale: that stuff is barely tested |
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12:12.08 | rdale | it has the best rdf support, and plenty of commercial users as far as i know |
12:12.45 | MoDaX | rdale: opensource and commercial editions are not the same afaik |
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12:14.05 | MoDaX | and rdf is not really a DB for typical DB usage, is it? |
12:14.46 | rdale | from the faq, the only difference is " The Open Source Edition doesn't include the Virtual Database Engine and Data Replication Functionality of the Commercial Edition" |
12:15.10 | rdale | the kde semantic desktop isn't a typical db usage though |
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12:15.46 | MoDaX | rdale: yeah, but what about akonadi & amarok? |
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12:16.23 | MoDaX | it might be good for nepomuk but not "a common db" |
12:17.42 | sandsmark | nepomuk supports pluggable databases, does it not? |
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12:18.17 | Walzmyn | how can I edit favorites in Kmenu? |
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12:27.26 | rdale | MoDaX: see ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAwX3+/qrNjgmYSWT/J+AgAORWzTdKcXKqqd3ff2X7vrIb/sqnQdJAw6OtQCgOtWqx/SOE2aoYaySKsF70D8FmbAdIFAtkNMwpd8/88H/gCMuAEhfQqncA/B9ZqFFGxLYo0jlJtb6G7lBeSHckc87wJJGyRBT1CH8aFL4qfVs6HIF/kdNdd6uvSsKt+l/XjPxHEcpTDf47Y/iNC7jIGOZz3+L2NWtCDtRJmNvQiSOM0kdes7JdFArtwxgURyDHNJGA0ykgGZwFNyeSR5uw7Ff0fdIP3VpWEs+R/S+Mg9BzOQ96bvzN4Hhl0+aYAgdRONgDRfxtZNaii/Ju2QLvXYAfzw== rdale@baldhead |
12:27.35 | rdale | oops |
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12:27.58 | rdale | i meant this link: http://trueg.wordpress.com/2009/02/19/akonepomuk-neponadi-friendly-takeover-or-real-love-marriage/ |
12:29.21 | MoDaX | rdale: and the performance is what I care about the most |
12:29.58 | rdale | i've no reason to believe it won't work with amarok etc |
12:30.42 | MoDaX | I have not seen virtuoso in action yet and I'm not convinced about its bloatness and such. but probably can't be worse than java sesame2 |
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12:33.52 | calwig | !kmail |
12:34.02 | calwig | o.0 |
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12:38.03 | chickamade | hello, is there a way to force plasma to remember its configuration in KDE4? kquitapp and logging out doesn't cut it :( |
12:40.11 | yaayaa | I usually log out, and log in again, it does the trick for me |
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12:40.35 | yaayaa | otherwise, you can try: dbus-send --dest=org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession |
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12:43.12 | damada | it's seriously annoying that it doesn't save that right away :( |
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12:43.50 | Ghabit | I have no login|logout sounds and have not popups from kopete|quassel. Have anybody same problem? |
12:44.07 | kohwj | Ghabit: Settings -> Notifications |
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12:44.50 | chickamade | dbus save session produces no diff |
12:45.08 | chickamade | mah... I'm gonna try to edit the conf files |
12:45.21 | Duesentrieb_ | on a related note: konversation doesn't come back up when restoring the session. any idea why? |
12:45.34 | Ghabit | kohwj: There is all ok, at least quassel, I have not kopete there. |
12:45.54 | kohwj | ok.. |
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12:48.29 | kohwj | how can I make kopete 0.7 automatically download my contacts' display pictures? |
12:50.05 | haeger | hello... i try to use dekorator under kde 4.2 and ubuntu 8.10. it is installed correctly but i can find it in the systemsettings... can somebody help me please? |
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12:52.20 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:52.39 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:52.46 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:52.58 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:53.00 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:53.14 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:53.44 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:53.46 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:53.49 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:53.55 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
12:54.00 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
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13:06.52 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
13:07.05 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
13:07.08 | chilkewar | i want oracle vm |
13:07.18 | sandsmark | you no can has |
13:07.21 | sandsmark | pinotree: â ? |
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13:19.35 | pinotree | kick chilkewar no spam, thanks |
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13:20.00 | pinotree | chilkewar_: please, be quiet |
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13:25.57 | pinotree | sandsmark: sigh, i cannot even get some lunch, that a bored guy starts spamming |
13:27.08 | sandsmark | pinotree: heh :) |
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13:41.43 | |iomari| | seems like bluetooth and sdp protcols do not work in konqueror 4. Is there a fix or am I doing somethig wrong? It works fine in kde3. |
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13:43.12 | kohwj | |iomari|: same here |
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13:43.36 | |iomari| | kohwj: have you found a solution yet? |
13:43.50 | kohwj | |iomari|: nope... probably a konqueror thing |
13:44.46 | |iomari| | kohwj: dammit. it works in gnome but I hate gnome. |
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13:48.53 | Frantic | can anyone tell me why sometimes copy fails in kde 4.2? (this is my first kde version) |
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13:49.24 | Frantic | eg I will sometimes select something, CTRL+C then when I do a paste it's the previous thing |
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13:50.09 | Frantic | this also happens with cut, I do a C-x, the selected text vanishes, then a C-v again causes another thing to be pasted |
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14:17.51 | |iomari| | kohwj: In case you are interested, I found a way to use midnight command to do bluetooth file management on my phone. |
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14:23.55 | DeltaS4 | hey |
14:24.14 | DeltaS4 | is there any way to remove the frames/borders from kopete's windows? |
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14:24.28 | ewoerner | wtf: http://eckhart-woerner.de/~eckhart/krunner.png |
14:26.53 | DeltaS4 | and how do I set konqueror not to ask me anything when I click on a download link? I want it to automatically save the file on the desktop |
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14:30.12 | charon | ewoerner: same thing that happens when you compute, in 2-digit decimal floating point, 1/3 = 0.33 and then 3*0.33 = 0.99 |
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14:34.15 | x_link | Hi! |
14:34.24 | x_link | I just have a question, nut must show a picture. |
14:35.14 | nanothief | charon, ewoerner: its still a problem though, that app shouldn't be using doubles for calculating numbers |
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14:36.53 | x_link | Hi!http://www.speedyshare.com/556314142.html |
14:36.57 | x_link | Ops |
14:37.00 | x_link | http://www.speedyshare.com/556314142.html |
14:37.09 | x_link | Can somebody please take a look at those 2 pics? |
14:37.31 | x_link | The icon-text on the desktop-icon, the letters is not supposed to be like that. |
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14:37.50 | x_link | When I highlight the icon the text gets right. |
14:37.56 | x_link | I don't know how to change that. |
14:38.20 | x_link | The letters are black in the middle and white on the sides. I don't want that. |
14:38.28 | x_link | Does anybody know why it's like this or how I can change it? |
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14:39.36 | pinotree | it is called "shadow", right click on the desktop â configure desktop â advanced options |
14:41.25 | x_link | pinotree: Okey, I will see. |
14:42.21 | x_link | pinotree: Ahh right, I changed that the other day but I didn't notice any changes then =) |
14:42.24 | x_link | Hehe |
14:42.25 | x_link | pinotree: Thanks alot man! |
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14:52.21 | rohan | i am using kde3, and i want to export my current color scheme so that i can use it elsewhere. how do i do that? |
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14:53.26 | Frantic | goto -30 |
14:53.28 | Frantic | goto -30 |
14:53.30 | Frantic | goto -30 |
14:53.34 | Frantic | sry xD |
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14:53.44 | x_link | rohan: Elsewhere? On another computer? |
14:53.44 | Frantic | <PROTECTED> |
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14:54.34 | rohan | x_link: yes |
14:56.02 | x_link | rohan: I guess you downloaded the color scheme yourself? |
14:57.07 | rohan | x_link: no actually it was the kubuntu default color scheme, i found it :) |
14:58.10 | x_link | Ahh okey. |
14:58.13 | x_link | Humm |
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15:28.48 | guja | How to change QT4 style? |
15:29.26 | boom1992 | Qt ;) via qtconfig... |
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15:30.30 | guja | I need to restart X to apply the changes? |
15:30.43 | charon | nanothief: what would it use instead? |
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15:31.18 | shadycyborg | any idea when KDE 4.3 will be out,an ETA perhaps?? |
15:31.34 | kdepepo | shadycyborg, late summer |
15:31.44 | shadycyborg | :( |
15:32.04 | shadycyborg | how late?? |
15:32.29 | rdieter | shadycyborg: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule |
15:32.29 | shadycyborg | June?? |
15:32.40 | shadycyborg | oh thanks |
15:32.40 | MaNI | shadycyborg: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Release_Schedule |
15:32.45 | shadycyborg | :) |
15:32.46 | MaNI | erk |
15:32.49 | MaNI | nervermind |
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15:33.57 | loup | hi |
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15:34.13 | shadycyborg | and what about new features?? |
15:34.20 | shadycyborg | KDE 4.4 i guess?? |
15:34.25 | loup | konqueror(kde3) shows small preview pictures for each image i have |
15:34.28 | kdepepo | shadycyborg, which do you miss? |
15:34.35 | loup | can i change the size of the preview pictures? |
15:34.44 | shadycyborg | ?? |
15:34.48 | nanothief | charon, there are heaps of decimal classes around, which remove floating point errors. They store numbers by storing numbers as an integer, and divide the number by an divisor. Eg 1.45 could be stored 14500 / 10000 |
15:34.50 | shadycyborg | what did i miss?? |
15:34.55 | kdepepo | shadycyborg, which feature |
15:35.20 | shadycyborg | ah,no i was just asking if any new features are being added?? |
15:35.35 | shadycyborg | i started using Kubuntu only a month earlier |
15:35.44 | kdepepo | shadycyborg, sure, every update has new features. |
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15:36.07 | arjantop | shadycyborg: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Feature_Plan |
15:36.08 | charon | nanothief: so that shifts the problem from numbers not representable in base 2 to numbers not representable in base 10. big win. *shrug* |
15:36.08 | MaNI | shadycyborg: http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.3_Feature_Plan is a rough outline |
15:36.14 | arjantop | =) |
15:36.29 | MaNI | I should stop pasting links they keep being duplicates |
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15:36.40 | shadycyborg | rough is fine |
15:36.55 | shadycyborg | MaNI: Lag i think |
15:37.05 | MaNI | probably |
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15:37.53 | shadycyborg | something to find nearby wireless networks would be great |
15:38.06 | shadycyborg | i have a network catcher button lying unused |
15:38.36 | nanothief | charon: its a big win since we are used to dealing with decimal errors (eg typing 1 / 3 in a calc), but not binary ones (like 0.1 * 10 /= 1). This is the way all household calculators work. |
15:38.45 | loup | any idea?? |
15:39.05 | shadycyborg | oh and VOIP for Kopete,etc with gmail |
15:39.26 | nanothief | also, as 2 is a factor of 10, any fraction with a finite decimal expansion in base 2 will also have one in base 10 |
15:39.42 | shadycyborg | rdieter: |
15:39.48 | shadycyborg | oops |
15:39.48 | kdepepo | loup, you should have zoom +/- toolbar buttons |
15:39.59 | shadycyborg | rdieter: something to find nearby wireless networks would be great |
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15:41.16 | shadycyborg | rdieter: any idea?? |
15:42.03 | rdieter | shadycyborg: there's a networkmanagement plasma applet on the way... |
15:42.16 | shadycyborg | yayy |
15:42.27 | shadycyborg | eagerly awaits |
15:42.43 | shadycyborg | whathis btwts |
15:42.45 | shadycyborg | Telepathy-specification compliant Account Manager using KWallet to store account data |
15:42.52 | shadycyborg | *whats this btw |
15:43.02 | shadycyborg | Telepathy lol |
15:43.16 | rdieter | shadycyborg: for example, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3873 |
15:44.44 | shadycyborg | how about |
15:44.47 | shadycyborg | kwifi |
15:44.51 | shadycyborg | or kwired |
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15:46.06 | shadycyborg | konnect yess |
15:46.30 | shadycyborg | rdieter: konnect would be cool |
15:47.01 | rdieter | blog is old, networkmangement has pretty much already been chosen, if I recall |
15:47.22 | shadycyborg | :( |
15:47.30 | loup | kdepepo: no (i use kde3) |
15:48.02 | kdepepo | loup, me too :) |
15:48.03 | rdieter | shadycyborg: though I'm not the one making any decsions here either. |
15:48.15 | shadycyborg | hehe,np |
15:48.40 | shadycyborg | BTW any idea whether theyll add transperency like vista?? |
15:48.41 | kdepepo | loup, maybe your configuration is different, try customizing toolbars, and add the zoom +/- actions if they are not there. |
15:48.49 | shadycyborg | but lighter |
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15:50.39 | kdepepo | loup, there is also an option in konqueror settings to make thumbnails scale with icon sizes "previews and metadata" page. |
15:51.07 | shadycyborg | anyways im out |
15:51.09 | shadycyborg | bye all |
15:51.17 | shadycyborg | nice talking |
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15:55.26 | comawhite | anyone know of a system wide settings to make apps not group? |
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15:56.09 | loup | kdepepo: ok |
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15:59.06 | thorgt | hello everybody, I get a black screen with a cursor after log in (KDE trunk). what could that be? |
15:59.28 | thorgt | actually I found out that there's no plasma running and no krunner |
15:59.40 | thorgt | but why could that happen? |
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16:05.28 | loup | i see most distributions which will appear in april will have kde 4.2 |
16:05.35 | loup | will it have qt4.4 or 4.5? |
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16:07.41 | thorgt | or is there any way to start plasma from another virtual console? |
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16:09.26 | Azazel_Pazuzu | jest tu ktoÅ z Polski? |
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16:10.13 | Azazel_Pazuzu | Poland ? |
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16:10.21 | Azazel_Pazuzu | Polsza? |
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16:15.06 | l3u | Hi :-) I would like to use KDE4's network monitor plasmoid but it does not show any devices (although eth0 is configured and working). What can I do? |
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16:17.02 | gkiagia | thorgt: DISPLAY=:0 plasma-desktop |
16:18.06 | gkiagia | thorgt: are you sure plasma is installed ok? |
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16:29.04 | hoban | is there a kde equivalent for nautilus-open-terminal to open konsole by right-clicking on the desktop and choosing "open terminal"? |
16:29.29 | sandsmark | hoban: press F4 ? |
16:30.11 | sandsmark | hoban: or right click â actions â open terminal here ? |
16:30.15 | pinotree | (or Tools â Open terminal) |
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16:30.25 | sandsmark | ah, on the desktop :3 |
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16:30.31 | hoban | sandsmark, right :) |
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16:30.54 | sandsmark | just drag the konsole icon from the menu to the desktop ? |
16:31.00 | sandsmark | you don't get a right click menu, though :p |
16:31.21 | hoban | Actually, I know that one exists, I saw it working on opensuse 11's rendition of kde4 |
16:31.27 | hoban | I just don't know what it's called |
16:31.51 | sandsmark | it's a patch to plasma, I think |
16:32.22 | hoban | lame, if so |
16:32.28 | sandsmark | we had it in KDEmod on ArchLinux too, but we removed it once stuff got stable (it was mostly so you could launch a terminal no matter what ) :) |
16:32.41 | sandsmark | why is it lame ? |
16:33.14 | hoban | pulling in a patch to get it seems extreme. there should just be a package that provides that functionality. |
16:33.21 | hoban | a la nautilus-open-terminal |
16:33.29 | sandsmark | why ? |
16:33.36 | hoban | it should be installable upon request. not requiring a patch |
16:33.57 | sandsmark | to change the menu of an installed application, you most probably need to change that application |
16:34.05 | sandsmark | why do you need it in the right-click menu ? |
16:34.55 | hoban | I hop on a box and have the habit of right-click -->open terminal. I get annoyed when I don't see it so I pacman -Sy plasma-open-terminal (for example) and poof, I can now feed my right-clicking addiction |
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16:35.15 | sandsmark | :P |
16:35.35 | hoban | it's just awful convenient, and yes, I know I could just set up a keyboard shortcut, but those seem to break between package upgrades and I don't like relying on them |
16:36.06 | hoban | my volume keys & amarok shortcuts don't work :( no matter what I set them to actually...a bit strange |
16:36.36 | nanothief | hoban: for an alternative you might like try yakuake. Also, if you use xbindkeys, your shortcuts shouldn't ever break - even between de's :) |
16:36.38 | hoban | however key bindings to switch between desktops work great :) |
16:37.21 | sandsmark | hoban: why not just have a huge icon to launch the terminal in the middle of the desktop ? |
16:37.25 | hoban | nanothief, thanks for the suggestions |
16:37.27 | sandsmark | then you don't have to right click, even :P |
16:37.31 | hoban | sandsmark, because I don't like desktop icons |
16:37.36 | sandsmark | :3 |
16:38.25 | hoban | nanothief, what do you like about yakuake over konsole? |
16:38.53 | hoban | sandsmark, FTR I love kdemod :P |
16:38.55 | sandsmark | always available |
16:38.58 | sandsmark | ;P |
16:39.24 | nanothief | hoban: its a terminal that drops down from the top of the screen (like quakes one I think), always there, and accessible with a keyboard shortcut |
16:39.41 | nanothief | the actual terminal is identical to konsole |
16:39.44 | hoban | nanothief, sounds intriguing |
16:39.50 | hoban | I'll get it installed |
16:39.53 | hoban | thanks |
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17:05.07 | mini-man | is it possible to disable knotify4 altogether? |
17:05.47 | mini-man | e.g., the kde3 style popups if I'm using an alternate tray like stalonetray.. |
17:06.11 | mini-man | for *all* applications, not just going manually for each one and disabling the popup |
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17:08.29 | sandsmark | I have kde3 style popups everywhere |
17:08.41 | sandsmark | but I think you have to edit a configuration file if your distro didn't backport the gui for it |
17:09.53 | sandsmark | [AppletGlobals][plasma_applet_systemtray] |
17:09.58 | sandsmark | ShowNotifications=false |
17:10.20 | sandsmark | in your ~/.kde[4]/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
17:10.55 | mini-man | mini-man | e.g., the kde3 style popups if I'm using an alternate tray like stalonetray.. |
17:11.12 | mini-man | not using the systemtray plasmoid |
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17:12.35 | mini-man | killing knotify4 doesn't work, it always starts up again.. not sure where knotify4 is being started from |
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17:14.56 | hoban | nanothief, is yakuake slow opening for you? |
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17:15.17 | nanothief | hoban, not at all |
17:15.21 | hoban | nanothief: the animation speed I mean. doesn't matter what I set the speed to, I get lag when it scrolls down |
17:15.28 | hoban | with desktop animations turned on |
17:16.22 | nanothief | well it is a little jerky when it scrolls down, but it is bairly noticible for me |
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17:17.50 | hoban | nanothief, ~110ms speed makes it work ok. nevermind |
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17:19.05 | faffi | hi guys, im setting all my fonts smaller, but for some reason programs like iceweasel and pidgin refuse to take heed to the new sizes, my buddylist font is the same size and so are things like my bookmarks in iceweasel |
17:19.34 | hoban | faffi: those are GTK apps |
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17:19.56 | faffi | how would i change the default font sizes for those then? |
17:20.04 | hoban | faffi: check out gtk-qt-engine |
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17:28.15 | panesar_sandeep | where can i get info regarding KDE SDK headers and functions and their uses? |
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17:28.52 | Shaan7 | panesar_sandeep: http://api.kde.org |
17:29.24 | panesar_sandeep | <shaan7>thnx |
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17:30.06 | Shaan7 | panesar_sandeep: no problemo :) |
17:30.17 | faffi | hoban: that sorta worked, my tabs in iceweasel had their theme changed and now my pidgin buddy list has the right size but every other name has a different background color |
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17:30.57 | faffi | hoban: i had it checked to use fonts and styles from KD |
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17:32.27 | ahmadrazzaghi | why i have troublem with add a app icon from kmenu to my desktop?? with do this my desktop will bi crash and hanging and i have no choice just reset! ??? |
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17:32.50 | AliTarihi | Hi, I get "Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values." when I enable KDE4.2. About less than an hour everything was right! |
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17:34.19 | Shaan7 | faffi: this might help http://kavoor.wordpress.com/2009/01/26/howto-make-gtk-applications-look-sleek-on-kde4-qtcurve/ |
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17:38.09 | Half-Left | Or just get the GTK oxygen theme :p |
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17:40.42 | hoban | faffi, yeah, the alternating background color of buddies in pidgin is a feature |
17:40.55 | hoban | looks nicer than the default way it looks |
17:40.58 | hoban | does it bother you? |
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17:45.16 | hoban | can someone tell me how to make global shortcuts work? I'm able to set them, but they aren't honored. Specifically, my volup/voldown/mute & amarok start/stop/play/pause don't work once set manually (or if left at stock configuration). My keyboard layout has been set to IBM ThinkPad R60/T60/R61/T61. I have aT61 |
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17:56.16 | k1lumin4t1 | anybody using kde 4.2? |
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17:56.41 | Half-Left | Alot of us I suspect |
17:57.08 | Shaan7 | Yeah :) |
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17:57.33 | Half-Left | And if your not, you should :p |
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17:58.15 | faffi | hoban: that was awesome, so i installed gtk-qt4-engine, and the engine wouldnt let me choose anything besides it using the kde themes which screwed up my tabs and the theme in firefox and then made pidgin look funky. after restarting x 10 times trying to fix it i removed it, my apps kept the font setting i wanted without the chage in theme :D |
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17:59.28 | Shaan7 | faffi: now thats called a work-around ;) |
17:59.33 | faffi | indeed |
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18:00.30 | hoban | faffi, nice work! :) |
18:00.47 | dealer_ | i can't see the icons in system tray, any idea? |
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18:19.51 | nondysjunction | Hello |
18:20.00 | nondysjunction | All my gtk fonts are insanely small under KDE4, help! |
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18:21.42 | AliTarihi | Hi. When I play any sound on my KDE 4.2 crashes. |
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18:29.19 | chilkewar | any indian |
18:29.37 | chilkewar | ??????????????????????????????????????? |
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18:30.39 | Shaan7 | chilkewar: why? what happened? |
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18:31.02 | chilkewar | oracle vm |
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18:32.14 | Shaan7 | chilkewar: ?? |
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18:44.42 | AliTarihi | Hi! I can not play sound in my KDE 4.2 any KDE app (e.g. Amarok) crash! but VLC works and I have sound. Any idea? |
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18:55.46 | mini-man | is it possible to show icons of CDs, USB sticks, on the folder view? |
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18:56.55 | J_A_X | hey guys, i think I might have deleted the package that does the application run command (alt+f2) |
18:56.59 | J_A_X | what's the name of that package? |
18:57.50 | junkDawgie | think it's in the plasma-addons package, J_A_X |
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18:59.25 | J_A_X | awesome |
19:00.37 | pinotree | no, it is called krunner and it is part of kdebase |
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19:04.04 | ganymede | !in |
19:04.09 | thiago | what? |
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19:14.07 | jon82 | is it possible to install kde on windows? |
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19:17.29 | looonger | jon82, there's a kde for win but i don't know how it works |
19:17.57 | jon82 | ok |
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19:18.01 | jon82 | thanx anyway |
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19:40.06 | GNU\colossus | is there a KDE program that can handle metalink files? |
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19:51.08 | Sgw | I've been trying to get wireless working on my laptop, got to the point where I had to use a Live CD to chroot and delete all my modifications so I could boot >.< I use wired at home, need 1 connection to my school's wireless which has no pass key even, it uses VPN once I can get connected. I'm using Debian 5.0 with KDE 3.5.10 : |
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19:51.43 | Sgw | What specific topic should I be researching, alot of guides I've found are telling me how to do static IP's and encryption extras |
19:53.04 | Sgw | anyone know of a good post/site I should look at for my simple set-up |
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19:54.37 | sputnick | hi there |
19:54.41 | Sgw | I can see wireless networks, but not connect, like working but not enabled. Any ideas appreciated thx |
19:54.52 | osFrenchDude | Hi, in kde we have an autostart folder...is there some kind of autostop ? |
19:55.25 | sputnick | is someone can reproduce this very strange begaviour ? |
19:55.27 | sputnick | $ LANG=C ls $HOME/kdebase/apps/kappfinder/apps/Games/Emulators/.svn/dir-prop-base |
19:55.28 | sputnick | ls: cannot access /home/sputnick/kdebase/apps/kappfinder/apps/Games/Emulators/.svn/dir-prop-base: Stale NFS file handl |
19:56.45 | sputnick | that's crash my backups :/ |
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19:56.58 | sputnick | I don't have any NFS on my system |
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19:58.32 | BubbaT | What is tyhe little panel on the right called? |
20:00.07 | J_A_X | okay, I'm getting several very annoying problems |
20:00.14 | J_A_X | for one, alt+f2 doesn't work |
20:00.24 | J_A_X | tried to install everything I could think of with no luck |
20:00.43 | J_A_X | also, for some reason, when I press 'm' everything minimizes, annoying as all hell |
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20:00.58 | J_A_X | also, i can't seem to be able to add a new window border, it's stuck on default |
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20:13.43 | nanothief | J_A_X, have tried running the krunner program manually? |
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20:17.49 | Kiberlynx | Hi, I've installed a few programs with wine in a user, now I want to move those programs to another users wine, which is no problem, except for the kickoff icons which I don't know how to copy, how do I do it? |
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20:18.11 | Kiberlynx | I'm talking about an kubuntu box |
20:18.34 | wonder | hi |
20:19.09 | Kiberlynx | where's the menu xml stored? |
20:19.58 | wonder | there is an option where can i change the behavior of opening files over smb? now if i open a file it will copy that to /tmp and then will be opened? is not very good if i open a movie |
20:20.20 | wonder | i use dolphin |
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20:23.03 | Kiberlynx | use a streaming player |
20:23.22 | Kiberlynx | the problem is with the players behaviour imho |
20:23.43 | wonder | Kiberlynx, i use smplayer but i don't think that is the case |
20:23.51 | Kiberlynx | I do |
20:23.58 | Kiberlynx | i use several players |
20:24.03 | wonder | every application have the same behavior |
20:24.12 | wonder | docs,audio,video |
20:24.17 | Kiberlynx | and mplayer/smplayer and others have that behavour |
20:24.35 | Kiberlynx | kmplayer for example doesn't |
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20:25.20 | Kiberlynx | from as far as my experience goes |
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20:26.19 | wonder | kmplayer is only a frontend to mplayer |
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20:26.43 | wonder | maybe the way of opening the file is different |
20:26.52 | wonder | not mplayer %F or %U |
20:26.56 | wonder | i need to look |
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20:28.51 | Kiberlynx | not just |
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20:44.40 | glade88 | 'ellow! I am trying to use a network proxy setting with systemsettings -> Network Settings. Although it works fine with konqui, konsole and CLI apps dont seem to use it. |
20:44.59 | glade88 | any way that I can make console (or bzr, ftw) to use the proxy gateway? |
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20:47.36 | glade88 | (I am on Kubuntu 8.10, KDE 4.2) |
20:47.37 | thiago_home | no |
20:47.43 | thiago_home | not with KDE settings |
20:47.54 | thiago_home | you'd be lucky if other KDE applications used those settings, but they don't |
20:48.02 | thiago_home | those settings apply only to http and https transfers |
20:48.28 | buntfalke | is kmail improved when it comes to gpg from 3.5.10 to 4.2? |
20:48.37 | buntfalke | Would be another thing for me to look forward to. |
20:48.52 | thiago_home | buntfalke: there's some usability improvements |
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20:49.01 | glade88 | thiago_home: thanks. I guess I'll have to wait till tomorrow to commit my work :( |
20:49.04 | thiago_home | but besides that, everything continues working exactly as before |
20:49.51 | buntfalke | Well. I hoped for functional improvements. Hm, too bad. Well...i'll continue working around it then... |
20:49.58 | buntfalke | thanks thiago_home |
20:50.40 | thiago_home | working around what? |
20:50.57 | glade88 | thiago_home: how is it the case that gnome-terminal on my roomate's laptop recognizes the global proxy settings? |
20:51.10 | thiago_home | glade88: there are no global proxy settings. |
20:51.16 | buntfalke | kmail refusing to use public keys sometimes, and not having a gui-way to import them. |
20:51.28 | glade88 | thiago_home: In gnome: system -> preferences -> network proxy |
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20:51.40 | thiago_home | glade88: so, like I said, there are no *global* proxy settings |
20:51.46 | thiago_home | glade88: those aren't global |
20:52.01 | glade88 | nevermind, all GTK apps still use it, right? |
20:52.12 | thiago_home | buntfalke: the GUI to import is kgpg |
20:52.16 | buntfalke | there is this window which lists all keys in the keyring. those with a private key have a green, others a red mark. there i cannot select certain keys although they are perfectly fine for whatever reason sometimes. |
20:52.32 | thiago_home | buntfalke: and I haven't tried recently sending an email to someone who I didn't trust (that's what kmail didn't support before) |
20:52.40 | thiago_home | glade88: I have no clue. I don't use GTK apps. |
20:52.40 | buntfalke | thiago_home: thanks, i'll try that |
20:53.14 | glade88 | thiago_home: me neither :) and seriously, I'd any time wait till tomorrow rather than installing gtk apps. thanks anyway |
20:53.15 | buntfalke | thiago_home: i imported the key with --trust-model always on the terminal. kmail still doesnt like it. |
20:53.37 | thiago_home | just doesn't have enough incentive to make proxies work |
20:53.49 | thiago_home | I've been on and off trying to do that for 6 years now |
20:55.19 | glade88 | thiago_home: me neither :) and seriously, I'd any time wait till tomorrow rather than installing gtk apps. thanks anyway |
20:55.19 | glade88 | I have no choice.. and guess what, the proxy I need to use is 127.0.0.1:8080 |
20:55.19 | glade88 | is using tunnelling |
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20:57.28 | Ghabit | Hello. Explain me please - what actually akonadi does? |
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20:58.26 | thiago_home | akonadi is the new low-level PIM framework |
20:58.48 | Archeron | hello folks |
20:58.49 | thiago_home | it is meant as a centraliser and for the many different local and remote storages |
20:59.13 | thiago_home | so, if you have an IMAP server, an Exchange server, or a POP3 server, it would handle the protocol differences for you |
20:59.20 | thiago_home | same thing for calendaring and address book |
20:59.42 | Archeron | kde4.2/FC10 - Anyone having issues where the window manager seems to stop responding to the mouse for an some period of time? |
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21:00.08 | wonder | akonadi will have support for google calendar? |
21:00.13 | wonder | i miss that |
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21:00.25 | Ghabit | thiago_home: Thank you a lot. |
21:00.29 | Archeron | my mouse moves, but clicking on things does nothing. I am stuck using alt-tab right now to change windows. |
21:00.32 | thiago_home | wonder: if someone writes the code, it will |
21:00.43 | thiago_home | wonder: there's nothing preventing it from having that |
21:00.49 | wonder | true |
21:01.00 | Ghabit | Does anybody have troubles with sound and popup notifications? I have no them. |
21:01.25 | wonder | i was asking because i don't follow kde development |
21:01.44 | thiago_home | wonder: it was a valid question |
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21:02.42 | Archeron | Can someone refer me perhaps to a fedora-specific channel? |
21:02.53 | thiago_home | yes, #fedora |
21:04.09 | PuffTheMagic | when i switch from Xorg to vt1 back to xorg my session gets restarted, is that a kde bug or xorg/radeon issue? |
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21:06.16 | thiago_home | session gets restarted? |
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21:06.29 | thiago_home | guesses X crashes |
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21:06.40 | thiago_home | confirm by taking a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old |
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21:39.58 | yowshi1 | how di i get the panel to let me put windows in the order i want instead of alphabetically |
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21:45.01 | Ace2017_- | hi all |
21:45.12 | Ace2017_- | is it possible to have the shadow effects only on windows |
21:45.36 | Ace2017_- | so that tooltips and menus do not, only on windows that have a window decoration |
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21:48.22 | Ace2017_- | is it possible to disable effects for certain windows? |
21:48.42 | Ace2017_- | if not for certain windows than can effects be disabled when a certain program is running? |
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21:54.15 | johnf_ | How can I setup kmail to save my sent messages in a special folder. I need to keep track of emails between me and another person |
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21:54.35 | thiago_home | it always saves all your sent messages in the sent-mail folder |
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21:55.23 | johnf_ | thiago_home: but that includes all the other emails I send. |
21:55.44 | wonder | you can make a filter and move there you want |
21:55.45 | thiago_home | you can configure a sent-mail folder per identity too |
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21:56.12 | thiago_home | you can create filters on outgoing messages |
21:56.38 | thiago_home | and you can also select the folder it's going to be saved in the composer window |
21:56.41 | johnf_ | per identity - filters on outgoing messages I'll try |
21:56.44 | thiago_home | choose a method |
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21:57.01 | Athunye | I'm trying to open the kspread docs from khelpcenter and I get "The file or folder help:/kspread/index.html does not exist." Is this help available from the distros repositories or not ? |
21:57.27 | dies | how to set WebKit in Konqueror 4.2 as default engine ? |
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21:58.16 | thiago_home | dies: do you have webkitpart installed? |
21:58.26 | dies | thiago_home: yea |
21:59.04 | thiago_home | then Konqueror, Settings, Configure Konqueror, file associations, find text/html and in the Embedded tab, move the webkitpart to the top |
21:59.08 | dies | thiago_home: when I change engine in main menu, Konqueror back to KHTML after each refresh |
21:59.10 | johnf_ | thiago_home: Thanks your suggestion appears to work. I didn't realize I could apply filters to sent mail. |
21:59.48 | tsb | In kde4.2, my keyboard (no) works in gtk apps. however in qt apps my layout is just english. I do not use any special keyboard settings in system settings, having already set that in xorg. What's wrong? |
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22:00.24 | thiago_home | Archeron: can you reproduce this issue without synergy running? |
22:00.37 | thiago_home | tsb: "no" works for me |
22:00.47 | thiago_home | tsb: can you pastebin the output of setxkbmap -print ? |
22:00.53 | Archeron | I can try... have to bail out of X and restart the WM |
22:00.58 | dies | thiago_home: thanx a lot! you're rock! : ) |
22:01.17 | Ace2017_- | Anyone know what causes konsole to resize very slowly if started while effects are on, it takes about 2 seconds for the window to redraw to the new size after each mouse movement, apps like konsole and dolphin redraw much faster |
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22:01.35 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: konsole's code |
22:01.43 | Ace2017_- | if konsole is started with effects on and then effects are turned back on it resizes fine like other apps |
22:01.47 | tsb | thiago_home, okay hang on, I have to restart X, I tried changing the keyboardsettings which didn't work, but when I changed back my win-key didn't work. |
22:01.51 | Ace2017_- | any workarounds? |
22:02.22 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: you mean, besides the workaround you've just mentioend? |
22:02.52 | Ace2017_- | thiago_home: yea, i was hoping there would be little known option that can be passed to konsole at runtime |
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22:03.30 | Archeron | thiago_home: looks like it didn't have to leave X entirely... just exit back to KDM |
22:03.42 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: it's a bug, so there isn't an option to disable a bug :-) |
22:04.01 | thiago_home | what happens if you start konsole while the effects are off (but they were on and you turned them off)? |
22:04.18 | tsb | thiago_home, okay, now it works again. But it worked before, too. After using konsole for a while, suddenly the keyboard changed.. it has happened several times. |
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22:14.20 | treach | hello. I'm having a little problem with the network monitoring widget in 4.2. I built my own kernel, and that made the widget stop working, (just shows a "connected" globe), even though as you see I still have a connection. |
22:14.34 | treach | anyone have any idea? |
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22:16.18 | hrad | hi, when I resize the bottom panel to have 2 rows of windows in taskbar, all the icons there are too big...in quick launch menu and next to the K menu as well...any idea how to keep them small ? |
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22:17.15 | corsair_ | hey, how can i get phonon to redetect all my system audio stuff? |
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22:23.02 | Frantic | anyone can tell me why my kde4.2 main panel turns blueish when I set the oxygen theme? it's supposed to be blackish |
22:24.14 | sandsmark | it's blue when you don't have working compositing, iirc |
22:24.41 | Frantic | how can I find out if I have working compositing or not? :> |
22:24.50 | Frantic | is that transparency? |
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22:26.43 | Frantic | fixed by rm -rf .kde* :) |
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22:28.12 | Frantic | stability still hangs by a thin thread i see :> |
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22:30.13 | Jupiter | any news on getting different wallpapers on each viewport to work with kde 4.2 + compiz |
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22:32.11 | Archeron | thiago_home: well... no synergy, no problems so far. |
22:32.28 | thiago_home | you'll have to wait some more to be sure |
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22:32.37 | tsb | Is it a known bug that konsole in kde 4.2 never starts in-focus? |
22:32.45 | thiago_home | Jupiter: is viewport a compiz thing or is it a virtual desktop? |
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22:32.55 | tsb | it always starts beneath some other application for me |
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22:33.30 | tsb | Is it a known bug that konsole in kde 4.2 never starts in-focus? it always starts beneath some other application for me |
22:33.32 | Archeron | thiago_home: yes... or I can start synergy and watch it screw up withing a minute. |
22:33.45 | thiago_home | that too |
22:34.01 | Jupiter | thiago_home: compiz uses 'viewoprts' on one dekstop, there was a patch for kde3 to make this work |
22:34.33 | Archeron | haha... instant screwage. |
22:34.53 | sandsmark | synergy is that ugly hack to share input devices between machines ? |
22:35.06 | Archeron | never had problems before |
22:35.19 | Archeron | it is usually slick as all hell |
22:36.03 | Archeron | What I don't know at this point is if it is a problem with its interaction with Xorg or KDE. |
22:36.08 | thiago_home | Jupiter: can you explain what a viewport is to me in KDE 4 terms? |
22:36.12 | thiago_home | I don't know compiz and have never used it. |
22:36.18 | Archeron | bbl |
22:36.26 | Jupiter | in kde terms it is a virtual desktop |
22:36.29 | thiago_home | and, AFAIK, KDE has no support for compiz-specific things |
22:36.38 | thiago_home | is it the same thing as a virtual desktop, from X terms? |
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22:37.57 | Jupiter | thiago_home: actually it does, the pager/taskbar had to be patched in kde3 to work with compiz, this was fixed upstream and at the same time talk was that the 'different wallpaper on each 'viewport/desktop' would fixed in kde4 as well |
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22:38.30 | Jupiter | thiago_home: it worked on kde 4.1.x |
22:38.47 | thiago_home | if it worked in 4.1, there's no reason why it won't work in 4.2 |
22:38.49 | kexman | im using kde 3.5.9 |
22:39.14 | kexman | how can i tell my minimized windows that if they are on desktop 2 ... they should be only visible on desktop 2's taskbar |
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22:39.31 | thiago_home | kexman: that's kicker's default behaviour |
22:39.49 | thiago_home | try right-clicking the taskbar and seeing if you can change its options |
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22:41.19 | kexman | Configure the Panel taskbar ? |
22:41.21 | kexman | what is kciker ? |
22:41.49 | thiago_home | kicker is the panel |
22:41.51 | kexman | got it :) |
22:42.01 | kexman | Show windows from all desktops :) |
22:42.07 | kexman | first ckeckbox :P |
22:42.09 | kexman | is blind :P |
22:42.14 | kexman | thanks |
22:42.19 | kexman | for the glasses :) hehe |
22:42.35 | kexman | aaa how do i switch desktops ? which shortcut is the defualt ? |
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22:42.53 | thiago_home | Ctrl+Fn |
22:42.58 | thiago_home | F1, F2, F3, F4 |
22:43.42 | caotic | how can I decript a file that I copied over ssh to machine, it was encrypted using kde wizards ... any cli interface to kdewallet ? |
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22:45.43 | kexman | huhh |
22:45.47 | kexman | that didnt worked to well |
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22:46.07 | kexman | i somehow managed to get to desktop2 but couldnt find the way back with the shortcut kombo :) |
22:46.14 | kexman | so i added the applet to the taskbar |
22:46.18 | kexman | i mean to the panel |
22:46.22 | kexman | but i dont want it :) |
22:46.33 | kexman | gonna look up some other shortcut in the kcontrol |
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22:48.16 | asdffdsa | kde 3.5.10 question: i just added a second screen to my system and set it up. the main screen is 1600*1200 and the secondary one is 1920*1080. now my kicker on the main display is floating at the same heigth as the one on the secondary screen |
22:48.16 | asdffdsa | which kinda sucks |
22:48.17 | asdffdsa | any ideas? |
22:48.33 | caotic | no one ? how can I get the necesary information for decripting a file encrypted with kGpg in the cli ? |
22:48.48 | sandsmark | caotic: run "gpg filename" |
22:48.52 | kexman | aaa one question |
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22:48.59 | kexman | how do i find out the FULL version of my kde ? :) |
22:49.07 | caotic | sandsmark: but I will need the keys right ? |
22:49.12 | sandsmark | yeah |
22:49.18 | caotic | I just know the kde wallet password ... |
22:49.21 | sandsmark | caotic: but if the key is in kgpg, gpg knows it to |
22:49.24 | sandsmark | o |
22:49.25 | caotic | any way I van get it from the computer ? |
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22:51.06 | caotic | sandsmark: but how can I decript it in a some other machine |
22:51.19 | sandsmark | put the key on it ? |
22:51.21 | caotic | my intend was to scp the file as an asc |
22:51.57 | caotic | emm ... dont want to sound stupid, but I dont know how to do that :( |
22:52.14 | caotic | but I guess I just did |
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22:54.07 | caotic | sandsmark: how can I access by ssh keys that were generated with kpg ... I guess that was the correct answer |
22:54.22 | sandsmark | kgpg doesn't make ssh keys |
22:55.40 | Ultimagon | Fedora 10 Newbie here, Does any of the 188 bugfixes available up to date fix the issue with kpackagekit that ruins my installation fun when trying to install RPM's downloaded from internet sites like adobe? |
22:56.14 | thiago_home | caotic: SSH and GPG keys are not compatible. |
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22:56.28 | thiago_home | Ultimagon: you should ask #fedora, we don't know the answer. |
22:57.06 | Ultimagon | oh, I see. Well now you know the severity of my newbieness, Thank you. |
22:57.06 | caotic | i guess I will just let the file unencrypted until i get phiscall acces to the machine |
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23:02.13 | kexman | is waiting for kde4 to hit stable as ROCK stage :) |
23:02.17 | kexman | is it there yet ? :) |
23:02.19 | kexman | are we there yet ? |
23:02.36 | thiago_home | two more years |
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23:02.58 | kexman | jawbrokage aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
23:03.06 | kexman | 2years ? :) |
23:03.11 | sandsmark | four more years ! four more years ! |
23:03.12 | sandsmark | :p |
23:03.48 | thiago_home | yes, two years |
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23:04.11 | kexman | auuuch |
23:04.24 | thiago_home | it took KDE no less than 4 years to get from 3.0 to 3.5 |
23:04.27 | Ace2017_- | thiago_home: so that would be kde4.5? |
23:04.32 | thiago_home | since we're better now, I'd say we'll take only 3 years |
23:04.35 | thiago_home | one is past |
23:04.37 | thiago_home | two to go |
23:04.49 | kexman | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/KDE_4.png |
23:04.50 | kexman | very nice |
23:04.52 | kexman | :) |
23:05.09 | kexman | thiago_home: i have no kde history knowledge |
23:05.17 | kexman | im mearly 1/2 year 1 year user of kde :) |
23:05.23 | Ace2017_- | so you get 4.0 for api stability? then 4.5 for app feature completeness? then cool new features in 4.5+ |
23:05.31 | kexman | but as far i like it :) |
23:05.34 | kexman | love it actualy :) |
23:05.48 | thiago_home | Ace2017_-: we're feature complete already |
23:05.50 | kexman | on linux its way too better compared to other desktop enviorenments |
23:06.28 | kexman | stable release according to the wiki is 4.2.0 ;) |
23:06.32 | kexman | how stable is it ? :) |
23:06.56 | kexman | kde 3.5.10 is the latest ultrastable ? |
23:07.05 | thiago_home | KDE 3.5.10 is the last KDE 3.5 release |
23:07.06 | tsb | kexman, there are many oddities here and there, kmail/kontact crashes from time to time etc.. but it works |
23:07.13 | thiago_home | "stable" in that context means "non-development" |
23:07.20 | tsb | kexman, yes, 3.5.10 is the latest ultrastable |
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23:07.24 | nondysjunction | hello |
23:07.27 | thiago_home | no such thing as "ultrastable" |
23:07.32 | thiago_home | it's just KDE 3 |
23:07.32 | kexman | hehehe |
23:07.37 | nondysjunction | in kde4 kopete, my chat text is HUGE |
23:07.42 | nondysjunction | and I don't know why :( |
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23:07.47 | kexman | thiago_home: so KDE 3 stable release ... |
23:07.50 | tsb | thiago_home, I d'no, kde3 rarely does anything wrong for me! |
23:07.55 | nondysjunction | It's also worth nothing that my gtk2 texts are incredibly tiny. |
23:07.55 | kexman | thiago_home: KDE 4 has no stable release ??? |
23:08.03 | tsb | in my book kde3 is ultrastable. |
23:08.05 | hombat | by the way.. kde 4.2 is "ultrastable" too |
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23:08.32 | Ace2017_- | oh |
23:08.37 | thiago_home | kexman: no, the last stable is 4.2.0 |
23:08.39 | sobczyk | kde4: theres no administrator mode button - basic thing |
23:08.40 | Ace2017_- | can't be |
23:08.41 | tsb | kexman, kde 4.2.0 is stable, you can use it. just don't think everything is as finished as things seem in kde3. You get a fancy kwin with kde4 though :) |
23:08.44 | thiago_home | stable = non-development |
23:08.52 | Ace2017_- | theres no custom wallpaper for each desktop |
23:08.52 | thiago_home | it has nothing to do with the stability |
23:09.13 | tsb | thiago_home, you're telling me! (kde 4.0.0 *cough*) ;) |
23:09.20 | hombat | sobczyk: what do you mean? ... for admin tasks iam using su or sudo |
23:09.37 | sobczyk | kde3 had the admin mode in the kconfig |
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23:10.31 | treach | kde4 - IME -quite frequently borks it's configurationfiles so things stop working, or stop work correctly. Not sure who to blame though, KDE or SuSE. |
23:10.42 | hombat | sobczyk: ah okay... didnt use it... but i can get admin by systemsettings when i install fonts for example |
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23:11.06 | sobczyk | also kopete multiplies icq->jabber transport contacts |
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23:11.51 | hombat | sobczyk: which distribution are you using? |
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23:12.07 | sobczyk | yesterday I lost all text and icons in kde, stopped displaying, thugh it may be radeonhd's fault |
23:12.17 | tsb | kexman, more importantly though, sans kwin and the accelerated desktop, it doesn't _really_ bring anything new to the table. There's things here and there, but by and large things are the same. Exciting things like nepomuk and akonadi still needs a while before it is well integrated (I'm guessing 4.4, but really I have no idea:) |
23:12.25 | sobczyk | hombat: gentoo |
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23:13.06 | sobczyk | though overall impression is very good, few things to fix few to add and it'll be great |
23:13.07 | hombat | sobczyk: maybe i am so happy with it because of using arch & kdemod |
23:13.14 | hombat | sobczyk: :) |
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23:14.16 | asdffdsa | tears some hair out |
23:14.17 | tsb | hombat, I'm on arch but I didn't bother installing kdemod.. it seemed to be just kde4 rebranded |
23:14.24 | asdffdsa | this is a really weird problem.. |
23:14.44 | tsb | hombat, afaicr, they added 2 things, both trivial. I see they will be packing qt4.5 with it though.. |
23:15.16 | sobczyk | though I think I broke something in X server config or kde itself during upgrade and it looks like contrast of my lcd is higher than before (or something else?), my eyes hurt after logner time at the computer :( |
23:15.23 | hombat | tsb: yes... it is not the same thing like it was at kdemod3 |
23:15.38 | amgarchIn9 | hi, after upgrade to 4.2 my laptop ignores the "do nothing on lid close" setting in power management. What could it be? This is ubuntu 8.10 kde 4.2 from intrepid-backports |
23:15.55 | funkyou | tsb: "kdemod" is just a prefix for a set of packages to distinguish them from the official distro pkgs |
23:16.18 | sandsmark | the main feature is that they're split |
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23:16.35 | wonder | not for long time sandsmark :) |
23:16.37 | sandsmark | and we have some experimental repos with KDE build against 4.5 :) |
23:16.56 | hombat | and that is what i like |
23:17.35 | hombat | usin core and extragear and it is okay for productive work |
23:17.45 | kexman | just discovered vnc + xrdp :) |
23:17.47 | kexman | playing :) |
23:17.47 | tsb | funkyou, ofcourse, I know what it is. My point was that at this time it basically isn't any different from vanilla kde |
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23:18.01 | tsb | sandsmark, I mentioned that :) |
23:18.04 | hombat | okay there is a problem with openoffice but i thing this is not related to kde |
23:18.20 | sandsmark | tsb: well, and we have debug symbols :) |
23:18.35 | sandsmark | (so you can actually submit usable bug reports without compiling yourself :) |
23:19.04 | Ace2017_- | can a shortcut be setup to turn the window border off? |
23:19.09 | tsb | sandsmark, nice, so my desktop will be even slower. I'm on an e6600 with a geforce 280gtx and I'm averaging at a 0.8 load avg with just desktopapps. :) but it is nice at this stage I guess. |
23:19.22 | sandsmark | tsb: no, you only install the debug symbols when something crash :p |
23:19.24 | tsb | sandsmark, hehe yeah, that is nice. |
23:19.29 | tsb | sandsmark, ah, cool. |
23:20.03 | sandsmark | I have a core2duo 2GHz, 2GB of ram, and I average at 0.2 in load :) |
23:20.24 | tsb | sandsmark, hum, that was actually a pretty cool feature. how does it work? if kopete crashes, I pacin kdemod-kopete-debug or whatever and just gdb it? |
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23:20.48 | sandsmark | basically, but you don't need to GDB, you just click the "details" button in the crash handler |
23:20.56 | tsb | sandsmark, I can get lower scores if I disable desktop composition. But then, what is left of kde4.. :p |
23:21.00 | sandsmark | (which invokes gdb for you) |
23:21.01 | tech9iner | low low mates.. pinotree even ;]] |
23:21.07 | tsb | expose is just too cool to disable |
23:21.13 | sandsmark | indeed ;) |
23:21.22 | sandsmark | and we even have a friggin' cube! :p |
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23:21.40 | tsb | sabocat, hehe yeah that one actually crashes my desktop |
23:21.56 | sandsmark | heh |
23:22.14 | tsb | sandsmark, or rather, makes it so slow i am unable to do anything, with artifacts all over the place. shift-alt-f12 to the rescue! |
23:22.20 | Archeron | ok... is there something special you need to do when running multi-headed under KDE 4.2? |
23:22.43 | tsb | Archeron, yes, get a bigger single screen. =) |
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23:22.57 | Archeron | My mouse moves from screen to screen, but I can't drag windows from side to side |
23:23.01 | tsb | It's what I did after a while. I have virtual desktops anyway.. |
23:23.09 | tsb | Archeron, that is not a kde problem |
23:23.25 | tech9iner | any fellow kde fans have a favorite opensource alternative to Evernote perchance please?.. thanks... opensuse 11.1 running default kde3+4 btw.. |
23:23.28 | Archeron | and the old CTRL-F<screen num> does not seem to do its normal thing |
23:23.40 | tsb | Archeron, it is the horrible mess that seems to me to be the source of most of linux-on-desktops troubles; x11/xorg.. |
23:23.52 | tech9iner | thinks.. hmm.. freemind could work maybe?.. hmmm.. |
23:23.57 | Archeron | tsb: well... 3.x never gave me this trouble... |
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23:24.09 | sandsmark | tech9iner: what is it ? |
23:24.22 | Archeron | maybe a newer version of Xorg came with FC10 as well... |
23:24.28 | tsb | Archeron, basically, you either have to set up 2 screens as one display, which allows you to move stuff but this also means 1 taskbar will span 2 screen setc |
23:24.31 | sandsmark | tech9iner: maybe basket ? |
23:24.38 | tsb | Archeron, or you have to just live with the seperation |
23:24.55 | sandsmark | tech9iner: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/BasKet+Note+Pads?content=10020 |
23:24.59 | tsb | Archeron, i forget the silly names these modes have. xinerama was it? |
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23:25.01 | Archeron | I will revert to FC6/KDE3.5 before I live with that. |
23:25.02 | tech9iner | sandsmark: hmm.. interesting.. app moniker never known.. tx for feedback mate.. |
23:25.11 | sandsmark | np |
23:25.20 | Archeron | alright... I will look into the xorg config |
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23:26.04 | tsb | sandsmark, abotu the debug stuff, does that means the install has 2 binaries of everything? |
23:26.12 | Archeron | funny thing is, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't |
23:26.18 | tsb | (not that it matters, since i have 1.5tb here! mwaha) |
23:26.24 | sandsmark | tsb: nope |
23:26.35 | tsb | Archeron, welcome to desktop linux! :) |
23:26.43 | sandsmark | you just get a package with all the debug symbols split out, and gdb is able to load them whenever it needs them |
23:26.44 | tsb | just earlier today my keyboard went bonkers.. |
23:26.55 | tsb | sandsmark, ah, cool. |
23:27.08 | tsb | sandsmark, hum, why doesn't everybody do that? |
23:27.13 | sandsmark | most do |
23:27.15 | Archeron | are there new hotkeys to switch desktops? |
23:27.17 | tsb | sandsmark, like, ubuntu et all |
23:27.20 | sandsmark | debian has -dbg-packages, for example |
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23:27.32 | sandsmark | (iirc, haven't used debian in a while :) |
23:27.32 | tsb | sandsmark, yes, which you have to install manually |
23:27.47 | sandsmark | yeah, you have to install them manually in arch/kdemod too :) |
23:27.57 | tsb | aah, then I understand. :) |
23:28.03 | nondysjunction | Kopete's (KDE4) chat styles aren't working right, the font is coming through HUGE! Suggestions? |
23:28.04 | sandsmark | I conspired with the #kde-bugs-guys about getting automatic installation of them, though |
23:28.10 | sandsmark | but it needs support from the crash handler |
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23:28.52 | tsb | I just found the first java-app that doesn't make me want to explode! netbeans! never thought I'd see the day. |
23:29.09 | sandsmark | hehe |
23:30.08 | Archeron | ok... seem to have found part of the problem |
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23:30.59 | Archeron | CTRL-f12 brings up some widget screen, which overtakes the focused screen, but looks like a blank desktop, giving the appearance that the two screens are out of sync |
23:31.17 | Ace2017_- | How do i create a screensaver out of a command? i want to run mplayer M4V56052.MP4 -loop 0 -vo xv -aspect 16:10 #http://systembash.com/videos/M4V56052.MP4.zip |
23:31.24 | tsb | sandsmark, any remotely idea about when kdemod4 and qt4.5 will play nice with eachother? |
23:31.30 | Archeron | and CTRL-Fx no longer switches between desktops for desktops greater than 4 |
23:31.32 | sandsmark | Ace2017_-: why not use the media screensaver ? |
23:31.38 | sandsmark | tsb: I think funkyou has a repo with qt 4.5 |
23:31.42 | Ace2017_- | sandsmark: what backend does it use? |
23:31.44 | sandsmark | (compiled against 4.5) |
23:31.49 | sandsmark | Ace2017_-: I would guess phonon |
23:31.57 | tsb | sandsmark, yeah but I hovered the forum a while back, a lot of things doesn't work well with it |
23:32.00 | sandsmark | tsb: I run kdemod with 4.5 now |
23:32.21 | tsb | sandsmark, and everything Just Works? |
23:32.23 | sandsmark | there's some minor nitpicks with oxygen, but otherwise I haven't found any big downsides |
23:32.45 | tsb | is there any noticable speedup? |
23:32.54 | sandsmark | hmm, probably :) |
23:33.00 | sandsmark | I haven't noticed much |
23:33.06 | kc8hfi_ | k3b is giving me trouble burning to dvdrw's, heres the debugging output, WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=64h/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error |
23:33.18 | tsb | sandsmark, yeah, it's not easy to notice unless it is huge I guess |
23:33.22 | Archeron | so where is the main configuration control panel now? |
23:33.26 | kc8hfi_ | oops, sorry about that, http://fpaste.org/paste/4335 |
23:33.26 | tsb | anyway, nighttime. which means 1 hour of left 4 dead that I really shouldn't play and then bed. |
23:33.39 | sandsmark | goodnight :) |
23:33.39 | tsb | (that game is crazy fun.. :) |
23:33.50 | sandsmark | I should buy it some day, I haven't tried it yet :P |
23:34.00 | tech9iner | likes idea of freemind.. yet its java based.. not a java fan.. |
23:34.13 | tsb | yeah I got it on sale about 2 weeks ago I think. 20 euros, well worth it! |
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23:34.44 | sandsmark | nice |
23:34.47 | tech9iner | damn.. getting things done offers up several alternatives.. |
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23:38.10 | amgarchIn9 | what apps are using this config file ~/.kde/share/config/powerdevilprofilesrc in kde 4.2? I dont have powerdevil installed, should I? |
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23:47.27 | junkDawgie | i believe it is installed in the normal package, amgarchIn9... it may not give you any options in systemsettings/Advanced/PowerManagement if you have some other powermanagement program running... i had to disable the distro's service before i had any options. |
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23:48.52 | amgarchIn9 | thanks! battary is empty, I go to sleep |
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23:50.53 | junkDawgie | which promptly put me into a non-recoverable hibernate when that timeout happened ... fyi |
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23:54.25 | blafasel | Hi. Just started a loopback connection with (free)nx to try KDE. Before that my multimedia app played last.fm, but as soon as the session started the sound was cut off (now my soundcard is not even listed as target in pulseaudio anymore). Is 4.2 using a (modern) variant of arts of some sort that might've grabbed my device here? |
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23:56.20 | thiago_home | KDE doesn't have aRts |
23:56.29 | thiago_home | or anything like it |
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23:56.41 | thiago_home | however, pulseaudio could be considered a successor to it |
23:56.45 | blafasel | No software mixer or something? |
23:56.50 | thiago_home | it's not part of KDE, so you're running it on your own |
23:57.01 | thiago_home | no, KDE requires the underlying layer to do mixing |
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23:57.20 | asdffdsa | kde 3.5.10 question: i just added a second screen to my system and set it up. the main screen is 1600*1200 and the secondary one is 1920*1080. now my kicker on the main display is floating at the same heigth as the one on the secondary screen |
23:57.28 | blafasel | Sure I do. I'm a Gnome guy so far (don't hit me) and just started KDE on the same machine, using NX as a VNC replacement |
23:57.34 | asdffdsa | any ideas? |
23:57.37 | thiago_home | asdffdsa: restart X |
23:57.43 | asdffdsa | thiago, i did |
23:57.54 | asdffdsa | or do you mean i need to restart more than once |
23:57.55 | thiago_home | X has to be started with both screens connected |
23:57.55 | asdffdsa | ? |
23:58.04 | asdffdsa | i did that |
23:58.09 | thiago_home | ok, then I don't know |
23:58.29 | asdffdsa | (also, i lost all session state by doing that which kinda sucks as i had severl konquis open with non-bookmarked URLs etc) |
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23:58.37 | asdffdsa | thiago, kk, thanks though |