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| 00:03.28 | MinceR | it works, thanks |
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| 00:06.08 | simoncion | Hi all. I've switched to the KDE 4.2 tag. |
| 00:06.39 | simoncion | I'm still running into this bug (KDE doesn't remember the previous session's screen resolution after logging out.) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163707 |
| 00:06.44 | simoncion | Is anyone tackling this? |
| 00:06.58 | simoncion | (Is this a #kde-devel question?) |
| 00:07.53 | pinotree | (user question) |
| 00:10.00 | Half-Left | simoncion: Are you using kRandrTray on startup? |
| 00:10.23 | simoncion | Oh, sorry. I'm using Gentoo (~x86), and am building KDE from the 4.2 SVN tag. I'm currently using QT 4.4.2 |
| 00:10.28 | simoncion | Half-Left: No. I am not. |
| 00:10.53 | pinotree | what is the "4.2 svn tag"? |
| 00:10.54 | Half-Left | Do that, set your res with it and leave it open in the tray |
| 00:11.05 | simoncion | *tries that* |
| 00:11.23 | Half-Left | When you relogin it Should be proper |
| 00:12.26 | simoncion | Half-Left: That worked. Why isn't krandrtray started by default, as Akonandi and Strigi are? |
| 00:12.46 | Half-Left | simoncion: Not sure why |
| 00:12.58 | simoncion | Half-Left: Maybe it should be? ;) |
| 00:13.06 | Half-Left | Yes, indeed |
| 00:13.10 | pinotree | (maybe because it is not needed in a good percentage of cases?) |
| 00:13.35 | simoncion | *tries something* |
| 00:13.39 | Half-Left | True but I've noticed this alot |
| 00:14.58 | Half-Left | needs it starting otherwise his screen is postioned wrong |
| 00:14.58 | simoncion | I think |
| 00:16.05 | simoncion | that if anyone has a screen rez that's smaller than the largest one that KDE (or xorg?) thinks is supported by the display adaptor/monitor combo, then KDE will default to that larger rez on startup. It'll snap back to the preferred rez when you open the Display settings panel or krandrtray. |
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| 00:16.41 | simoncion | I've just tested this out by setting my desktop rez to 800x600 with a monitor that does up to 1024x768. |
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| 00:16.47 | simoncion | killed krandrtray |
| 00:16.49 | simoncion | logged out |
| 00:16.51 | simoncion | logged in |
| 00:16.56 | simoncion | and bam. @ 1024. |
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| 00:18.25 | simoncion | Know if anyone's working this issue? Would starting krandrtray by default be a good bandaid? :) |
| 00:18.38 | simoncion | (Or am I jumping the gun by calling it an issue?) |
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| 00:20.55 | Half-Left | I did ask Aaron Seigo about this, he agreed it should be started by default |
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| 00:22.20 | simoncion | Half-Left: Cool. Anything I need to do? |
| 00:23.04 | Half-Left | Not really, bug report it, wish list |
| 00:23.15 | estan | hm. how do i get konq4 to remember my tabs/session when i close it and open it again? |
| 00:23.35 | simoncion | Half-Left: Gotcha. |
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| 00:24.19 | Half-Left | simoncion: Give reasons why and a test case |
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| 00:24.56 | simoncion | Half-Left: I'm on it. Would you like the bug number when I'm done? |
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| 00:25.15 | simoncion | Although... |
| 00:25.30 | simoncion | This bug is the issue that I'm reporting. |
| 00:25.30 | simoncion | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163707 |
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| 00:26.07 | simoncion | *Adds a comment to that bug* |
| 00:26.16 | Grand_Avatar | hello |
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| 00:26.38 | Grand_Avatar | where is the tux icon of "myComputer"? |
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| 00:27.56 | pinotree | ? |
| 00:28.53 | Half-Left | simoncion: No it's fine |
| 00:31.02 | Grand_Avatar | where is tux sitting in front of a monitor |
| 00:31.28 | simoncion | pinotree: the "4.2 svn tag" is a checkout from svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/4.2 |
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| 00:31.49 | pinotree | that's not a tag, but a branch |
| 00:32.03 | simoncion | pinotree: Sorry. I fail at SVN terminology. |
| 00:32.13 | Grand_Avatar | tux where |
| 00:32.14 | simoncion | makes a note to try harder in the future. |
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| 00:40.44 | saem | There is like pretty much no difference between a tag or a branch |
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| 00:42.10 | simoncion | saem: It's a terminology difference... and an important one. :) |
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| 00:45.02 | dstambou | any idea how/why amarok would use different fonts to those used by the rest of kde? |
| 00:45.16 | dstambou | (ie. without a user setting them - I'm not sure if the option even remains in amarok2) |
| 00:45.54 | root | hi |
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| 00:46.29 | animeloe | beats up kde4 |
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| 00:48.15 | root | How to change IP configurations in KDE ? |
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| 00:53.41 | XwZ | hi |
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| 00:55.11 | XwZ | what's the equivalent of i18n for icon ? (16x16) |
| 00:55.45 | pinotree | ?? |
| 00:56.00 | pinotree | what is your real issue? |
| 00:56.59 | guax | dont got the idea of "16 days until the impossible" |
| 00:57.06 | XwZ | get default icon of theme to use it my application ? |
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| 00:57.37 | pinotree | guax: countdown until kde 4.2 |
| 00:58.01 | guax | that i know, just thinking about the phrase, whats impossible on kde 4.2 launch? =P |
| 00:58.04 | pinotree | XwZ: is your application a kde application? so you want to show icons in that case? |
| 00:58.21 | XwZ | pinotree: yes, it is |
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| 00:59.16 | pinotree | kde3 or kde4? |
| 00:59.26 | XwZ | pinotree: kde4 |
| 01:00.04 | pinotree | then you you want to use either KIcon: http://api.kde.org/4.1-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKIcon.html |
| 01:00.13 | pinotree | or KIconLoader: http://api.kde.org/4.1-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKIconLoader.html |
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| 01:03.33 | XwZ | pinotree: in fact, the real path is (in my case) : /home/kde/kde/share/apps/kpresenter/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/pen.png but i don't know what to do to use a "relative" path to get pen.pgn |
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| 01:06.46 | dstambou | oops, closed the window |
| 01:06.57 | dstambou | my question is - how can my fonts in amarok be different to those of my kde ? |
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| 01:07.10 | dstambou | and the follow on is... how do I make them the same? :\ |
| 01:07.21 | simoncion | dstambou: You might want to ask over in #amarok as well. :) |
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| 01:07.40 | simoncion | dstambou: But I have no idea. Sorry. |
| 01:08.49 | Sam_123 | Plz tell me the link for video player which will play almost all file formats in KDE .... |
| 01:11.47 | OldMan | "mplayer" and "xine" |
| 01:12.27 | C-MoH | hey; i seem to have a font problem on konqueror - and kde as a whole - |
| 01:13.03 | reavertm | what does internationalization have to do with icons btw? |
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| 01:18.41 | C-MoH | i can't see romanian diacritics here |
| 01:19.04 | C-MoH | can see them just fine in firefox though |
| 01:20.11 | XwZ | reavertm: in fact i just want know how to get the realpath of an icon by giving application, size (i.e. 16x16) and the name (like pen or pen.png) |
| 01:21.44 | Sam_123 | OldMan:plz tell me for RPM download |
| 01:22.38 | reavertm | Sam_123 use your distro package manager |
| 01:23.02 | Old_Man | Sam_123: for rpm-based distros, it's usually something along the line of, "yum install mplayer" |
| 01:23.17 | Sam_123 | ok |
| 01:23.19 | Old_Man | Sam_123: for deb-based distros, it's usually something along the line of, "apt-get install mplayer" |
| 01:24.12 | Sam_123 | what is difference between sda and hda ? |
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| 01:26.30 | C-MoH | sda is scsi, hda not |
| 01:26.42 | simoncion | sda can be SATA as well. |
| 01:26.52 | Half-Left | scsi/sata/usb is sda |
| 01:27.02 | Sam_123 | simoncion: I m having IDE hard disk |
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| 01:27.45 | Half-Left | Sam_123: I would have though hd would have gave it away :p |
| 01:28.21 | Sam_123 | Half-Left: i din get u..! |
| 01:28.37 | Half-Left | hard disk a |
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| 01:30.49 | simoncion | Sam_123: I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you trying to figure out if your IDE hard disk is named hda? Are you trying to track down what device is named sda? Has your question already been answered? |
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| 01:31.34 | sabayonlive-2499 | hi |
| 01:31.50 | sabayonlive-2499 | somebody can help me with updates please?:S |
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| 01:33.16 | MinceR | iirc even PATA appears as sda nowadays |
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| 01:34.06 | sabayonlive-2499 | no body? |
| 01:34.40 | Sam_123 | simoncion : i m trying to track down what device is named sda? |
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| 01:35.34 | Sam_123 | Actually I wish to mount my hard disk in KDE |
| 01:35.35 | simoncion | MinceR: I've an Nforce2 board in a 2.6.28 system that reports the PATA devices as hd[a-z] |
| 01:35.55 | MinceR | then i might have misremembered it. |
| 01:36.02 | simoncion | Sam_123: Is it a USB disk? |
| 01:36.13 | MinceR | i won't boot my PATA system now to check :) |
| 01:36.19 | Sam_123 | simoncion:no normal disk |
| 01:36.19 | simoncion | MinceR: Or I may have an unusual config option set. ;) |
| 01:36.31 | Sam_123 | simoncion:usb has been mounted |
| 01:36.39 | MinceR | could even depend on distro-dependent defaults |
| 01:37.07 | simoncion | Sam_123: I don't know off the top of my head. (And my KDE4 system is offline at the moment.) Can someone else field this question? :) |
| 01:37.23 | simoncion | MinceR: *nods* It's a MYSTERY! :D |
| 01:38.04 | Sam_123 | For my USB Pendrive has got /media/sdb1...I want to find out the same path for hard disk partitions |
| 01:39.09 | simoncion | Sam_123: You could use gparted to find the hard disks in your system and figure out what partitions are on them. |
| 01:39.52 | Sam_123 | I wabt to know whether my hard disk is hda or sda |
| 01:40.10 | simoncion | Sam_123: Use gparted to find out. It's fast and easy. :) |
| 01:40.40 | simoncion | Sam_123: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php |
| 01:41.55 | Sam_123 | is it a command ?..I m new in Linux..I don know much about Linux |
| 01:42.57 | simoncion | Sam_123: It would be a command if you had it installed on your system. What distribution are you running? |
| 01:43.53 | Sam_123 | fc8 |
| 01:46.53 | Sam_123 | simoncion: I right clicked my hard disk partition..its showing /dev/sda |
| 01:47.33 | Sam_123 | It shud show /dev/hda..M i right or wrong |
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| 01:51.43 | adz21c | Sam_123: I think hda was an old naming/lettering/whatever scheme replaced by sda, I know my hard disks used to be hd* when I started using Linux but one day it all changed to sd* :-), so it should probably be called sda |
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| 01:52.16 | adz21c | Sam_123: but its not something I have ever given much attention too |
| 01:52.52 | simoncion | adz21c: This is being addressed in a private message, it was getting a bit offtopic. :) |
| 01:53.35 | adz21c | simoncion: ah ok, no one responded in channel so I thought I would throw my 2 cents in :-P |
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| 02:14.06 | animeloe | http://pastebin.cross-lfs.org/6141 |
| 02:14.09 | animeloe | any ideas? |
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| 02:44.36 | mitchell | hello |
| 02:45.31 | PhrkOnLsh | hai |
| 02:46.26 | mitchell | please |
| 02:46.56 | mitchell | does someone knows how to make windows start maximized in kde4? |
| 02:47.12 | mitchell | for example dolphin |
| 02:47.34 | mitchell | everytime i start that app, i have to maximize its window |
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| 03:05.43 | simoncion | mitchell: If you right-click on the titlebar, then click on "Advanced" then click on something like "special window settings" you should get to a window that lets you set default options for a window or application. |
| 03:05.54 | simoncion | (At least, that what I *remember* it doing...) |
| 03:06.10 | simoncion | Ah, crap. He left. |
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| 03:07.33 | autonomy | how can I do a find . -name "*.TEMPLATE", but in cmake language? |
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| 03:10.56 | dpalacio | Is there a happy KDE4 + scim user? |
| 03:11.08 | dpalacio | is unhappy |
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| 03:14.14 | padde | dpalacio: i'm using ibus now (don't know if there are any other input methods than pinyin available though) |
| 03:15.02 | padde | dpalacio: i discovered it after i couldn't succeed getting scim to work |
| 03:15.41 | dpalacio | padde: and you are using KDE4? |
| 03:15.51 | padde | dpalacio: yes |
| 03:16.03 | dpalacio | ok |
| 03:16.10 | dpalacio | is googling iBus |
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| 03:16.48 | dpalacio | ibus-anthy ^^. This looks good |
| 03:16.56 | dpalacio | Thanks padde |
| 03:18.06 | padde | dpalacio: no problem. it's not very mature yet, but it's getting there, and it already makes a better impression on me than scim/skim |
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| 03:18.51 | sabayonlive-5858 | Hi can somebody help me with my sound? |
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| 03:56.46 | autonomy | anyone know how to pipe stdout of last command to the stdin of the next comman in cmake (execute_process) ? |
| 03:57.04 | dpalacio | is a happy KDE4 + ibus user |
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| 04:32.23 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
| 04:32.23 | Ronis_BR | i couldn't get kde spell checker to work, can anyone help me? |
| 04:32.36 | Ronis_BR | KDE 4.2b2 |
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| 06:17.29 | mattfury | umm i was wondering if anyone finished solitare (spider [hard]) ? ever? |
| 06:18.16 | mattfury | i dont seem to be able to finish it after medium |
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| 06:19.10 | mattfury | hmm open-source solitare... |
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| 07:46.18 | mattfury | /server irc.icq.net |
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| 07:53.14 | jazka | Moult: in svn, dunno if it's working |
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| 07:53.42 | Moult | jazka: ok cbf then. is yakuake kde4? |
| 07:55.07 | jazka | yes |
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| 08:30.21 | Moult | i've been using kontact for a while then i stopped. now when i want to add something to my calendar it says "Please select the folder for storing newly created calendar entires" <-- what is that? I don't quite understand the wizard/. |
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| 08:35.57 | hjvgjuhb | tech suuport? |
| 08:36.12 | hjvgjuhb | support? |
| 08:36.19 | hjvgjuhb | anyone? |
| 08:40.18 | hjvgjuhb | need help installing sabayon 4 |
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| 09:20.34 | smurfslover | hi |
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| 09:21.42 | Moult | i've been using kontact for a while then i stopped. now when i want to add something to my calendar it says "Please select the folder for storing newly created calendar entires" <-- what is that? I don't quite understand the wizard. any guides? |
| 09:23.50 | annma | apparently it did not detect your current entries Moult |
| 09:24.03 | annma | so it asks you where you want to store them |
| 09:24.39 | Moult | annma: well, i had no entries, actually, i last used the calendar in 4.1. |
| 09:25.08 | Moult | annma: what's iCal compared to KDE Calendar (traditional)? |
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| 09:26.22 | annma | not sure, I know very little about Kontact stuff |
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| 09:27.04 | vsayikiran | what does the number inside parentheses under the seeders/leechers tab in KTorrent represent? |
| 09:27.05 | annma | not sure where you should ask either as #kontact is for develpers |
| 09:27.23 | annma | vsayikiran: google for seeder and leecher definitions |
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| 09:28.27 | vsayikiran | annma: i know the definition of seeders and leechers, but i couldn't understand why KTorrent represents two number under seeder/leecher tab? |
| 09:29.18 | vsayikiran | annma: one number which is outside parentheses and another inside parentheses. |
| 09:29.22 | annma | 2 numbers for seeders? |
| 09:29.30 | annma | and 2 numbers for leechers? |
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| 09:31.17 | vsayikiran | annma: thats what i am asking why 2 numbers are required to represent number of seeders and leecher |
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| 09:41.54 | RurouniJones | Howdy all: Anyone know how you install and activate a KDE Theme manager file (.kth) in KDE 3.5? The install is easy, just click the file and it appears to activate an "Install KDE theme" program which does something then ends. After that...how on earth do you activate the bloomin thing |
| 09:42.13 | annma | vsayikiran: all torrents apps do that |
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| 09:43.30 | vsayikiran | annma: ok i agree they do that, but i just want to know what do these 2 numbers represent? |
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| 09:45.15 | annma | first number is the number of seeds you are connected to |
| 09:45.23 | annma | second is the available seeds |
| 09:45.29 | annma | same for leechers |
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| 09:48.47 | vsayikiran | annma: so you mean at any time i am not connected to all the seeders? why so? |
| 09:49.11 | annma | well probably because you cannot |
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| 09:49.54 | annma | physically I think you probably have restrictions to some |
| 09:50.00 | annma | then maybe server overload |
| 09:50.32 | annma | you should try to do some research about it, this is not KToorent specific, this is how all torrent backends work |
| 09:50.42 | annma | frontends even |
| 09:50.42 | vsayikiran | annma: 10(20) it means that there are 10 seeders are connected directly to me, but total there are 20 seeders. |
| 09:50.58 | annma | vsayikiran: I am not an internet expert to tell you more |
| 09:51.27 | annma | if a seeder is say in China I guess you may have some trouble to connect there |
| 09:51.55 | vsayikiran | annma: ok please give me some links to understand these things, well i am trying google but i am not getting relevant sites |
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| 09:52.13 | annma | so you are saying that I am better than Google!!!! |
| 09:52.15 | annma | wow |
| 09:52.21 | vsayikiran | annma: ok i got a rough idea |
| 09:52.46 | Moult | hey guys, can any of you confirm bug 180314 - btw you don't need any special config, just take a few seconds to try it out and give me a yes or no. |
| 09:53.14 | annma | paste full url please so I just have to click |
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| 09:54.56 | marco | is nepomuk\strigi broken in the current trunk? |
| 09:56.17 | annma | marco: in what sense? |
| 09:56.25 | marco | that isn't working |
| 09:56.50 | marco | i have kde 4.2 with opensuse package ( 5 jan ) and strigi don't want to start |
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| 09:57.48 | marco | i hope nepomuk\strigi will be working when kde 4.2 will be released |
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| 09:58.28 | annma | doe snot want to start in systemsettings? |
| 09:58.30 | emilsedgh | :/ |
| 09:58.34 | annma | how do you start it |
| 09:58.45 | annma | Moult: can you paste the bug link |
| 09:58.49 | marco | yeah, trought system settings |
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| 09:58.57 | emilsedgh | i havent them working too, but thats because of mssing dependencies |
| 09:59.19 | marco | i select enable semantic desktop nepomuk and enable strigi |
| 09:59.34 | marco | but the green light remain grey |
| 09:59.43 | marco | which package do you think am i missing? |
| 10:00.07 | emilsedgh | i dont know whats that youre missing marco |
| 10:00.14 | Moult | annma: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180314 |
| 10:01.29 | marco | i try to switch backend.. |
| 10:01.44 | marco | working :) |
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| 10:01.53 | marco | redlan isn't working.. sesame yes |
| 10:02.33 | marco | which is the best? |
| 10:02.36 | marco | redland or sesame? |
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| 10:02.40 | annma | sesame |
| 10:02.50 | marco | ok, thank you :) |
| 10:02.53 | marco | another question.. |
| 10:03.14 | marco | some days ago i aked about ark.. the problem with rar archive? |
| 10:03.32 | annma | fixed |
| 10:03.37 | marco | good :) |
| 10:03.37 | annma | look at the commits |
| 10:03.58 | marco | was this bug known before me? |
| 10:04.57 | annma | no idea, did you send a report? |
| 10:05.03 | annma | or talk to the devel? |
| 10:05.06 | marco | nope |
| 10:05.15 | marco | i asked in devel and they sent me here |
| 10:05.29 | annma | asking in devel is not the good way |
| 10:05.34 | annma | nor here |
| 10:05.43 | annma | issuying a bug report is the way |
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| 10:05.51 | marco | ok, i'll do next time :) |
| 10:06.04 | annma | have a look at ark commits via websvnto check if it is fixed |
| 10:06.34 | Moult | annma: did you test the bug? |
| 10:06.37 | annma | Moult: wait |
| 10:06.42 | [Kame2] | Moult: can't reproduce with current trunk on gentoo (self compiled, not with portage) |
| 10:06.48 | annma | I like scientific measures Moult |
| 10:07.01 | annma | so 1) what is your taskbar setting? |
| 10:07.32 | annma | default is that ALL windows of ALL desktops are shown I think |
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| 10:08.18 | annma | Moult: "The taskbar will still show the application there, when it should only display the ones on its current desktop. " |
| 10:08.22 | annma | explain that part |
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| 10:09.26 | Moult | annma: well, the taskbar shows your currently open apps on the current desktop, so when you move it to another desktop, it should disappear from the taskbar |
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| 10:09.36 | Moult | annma: however, i have to switch to the new desktop, then back to see it refresh itself. |
| 10:09.41 | annma | no the teskbar doe snot do that Moult |
| 10:10.00 | annma | <Moult> annma: well, the taskbar shows your currently open apps on the current desktop <-- wrong |
| 10:10.07 | annma | as default it does not |
| 10:10.14 | marco | i went here http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdeutils/ark/app/main.cpp?view=log |
| 10:10.15 | Moult | annma: ok, well when set so that it should |
| 10:10.25 | marco | but i can't find any commit about this problem |
| 10:10.35 | annma | Moult: then in your bug report you need to tell that first |
| 10:10.40 | annma | tell your taskbar setting |
| 10:10.52 | annma | it all depends on this setting , no? |
| 10:11.06 | annma | as default I have all my windows shown |
| 10:11.41 | Moult | annma: hmm, how do i edit my description? |
| 10:12.02 | annma | you can't, you have to amend it |
| 10:12.18 | annma | wait first I check this ark stuff |
| 10:12.49 | Moult | annma: ok, how do i amend it? post a reply? |
| 10:12.54 | annma | marco: the commit I saw was this: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-commits&m=123159018807999&w=2 |
| 10:13.04 | annma | Moult: wait a few minutes please |
| 10:13.09 | annma | I deal with marco first |
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| 10:13.24 | annma | marco: if it is not your problem, please issue a bug report |
| 10:13.32 | annma | you can see the devel is active |
| 10:14.04 | marco | i think i should wait for tomorrow |
| 10:14.09 | annma | lol |
| 10:14.15 | marco | i think they'll update openuse package |
| 10:14.22 | annma | ok |
| 10:14.28 | marco | so i'll see if it is fixed |
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| 10:14.46 | annma | the devel is active so it's up to you |
| 10:14.50 | marco | but i think i'll be late |
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| 10:15.39 | marco | annma what do you mean? |
| 10:16.08 | annma | I mean that you can see the devel is in debug mode so if you issue your report you get a chance to have this fixed |
| 10:16.25 | annma | Moult: OK I changed the setting and I put the window to another desktop |
| 10:16.32 | annma | it disappeared from taskbar |
| 10:16.36 | marco | ok, i send bug report |
| 10:16.46 | annma | setting is: only show desktop windows |
| 10:16.51 | annma | Moult: ^^ |
| 10:16.59 | annma | and taskbar does just that |
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| 10:17.38 | emilsedgh | annma: where should i get sesame from? openrdf.org? |
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| 10:18.22 | Moult | annma: i have "only show tasks from the current desktop" and "only show tasks from the current screen" |
| 10:18.57 | marco | i think that there are still issue with nepomuk. |
| 10:18.57 | annma | Moult: I was supposed to guess that? |
| 10:19.09 | Moult | annma: no, you're right should've put that info. |
| 10:19.09 | annma | emilsedgh: my distro provides it |
| 10:19.12 | marco | i installed sesame and sesame-soprano backend |
| 10:19.40 | emilsedgh | ah, good for you annma.its odd that i cant find any debian package for it |
| 10:19.42 | marco | and when i enter in system settings\ desktop search, i get: can't find soprano backend, please check your installation |
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| 10:20.12 | annma | Moult: I added screen option and sent konsole from 4 to 2 and it disappeared from taskbar |
| 10:20.28 | annma | I have only 1 screen though, do you have 2? |
| 10:20.54 | Moult | annma: hmm. no i only have one screen, i just selected that option for the hell of it |
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| 10:21.19 | Moult | annma: i got recommended to post it as a bug when i first talked about it on #gentoo-kde, not sure what's up if it's only happening ot me |
| 10:21.28 | Worf | could one tell a noob that just switched from kde 3.5.x to 4.2 beta how one does tab completion in the konqueror adress field? |
| 10:23.26 | annma | Moult: first try with a new user |
| 10:23.49 | annma | log into a new user, open a few apps then change the taskbar settings |
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| 10:23.53 | annma | check the 2 options |
| 10:24.03 | annma | then move window to another desktop |
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| 10:24.14 | annma | what kde version do you have? |
| 10:24.36 | picca- | has KDE 4.2 moved from the SVN trunk |
| 10:24.37 | Moult | annma: snapshots provided on portage overlay kde-testing |
| 10:24.46 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 10:25.00 | Moult | annma: is there a "switch user" thing? |
| 10:25.11 | annma | Moult: that's not a version number |
| 10:25.17 | Moult | annma: 4.1.87 |
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| 10:25.25 | TheInfinity | hmm. would you recomment installing kde4 packages for mac as macport package or as package provided from website? |
| 10:25.32 | annma | picca-: yes |
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| 10:25.41 | picca- | annma: where can i obtain it from |
| 10:25.57 | annma | branches/ |
| 10:26.04 | picca- | ah so just under 4.2 branch |
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| 10:26.42 | annma | branches/KDE/4.2/ |
| 10:27.02 | picca- | thanks annma |
| 10:27.23 | annma | you're welcome |
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| 10:27.52 | marco | back again.. nepomuk freeze everything |
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| 10:28.59 | Moult | marco: does me too |
| 10:29.10 | Moult | annma: is there some sort of switch user thing>? |
| 10:29.33 | annma | in kickoff, quit |
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| 10:30.13 | Moult | annma: um, all i get is a little box in the middle of the screen with an X to close it |
| 10:31.32 | marco | there is a strange thingh. Why i had to install soprano-backend-redlan and soprano-backend-sesame to make nepomuk\strigi work? |
| 10:32.45 | derek_k | marco: storage for tags and the like |
| 10:33.05 | marco | so sesame and redland are both needed? |
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| 10:39.27 | derek_k | marco: looks like either or situation. depends how it's built |
| 10:44.41 | marco | ok.. |
| 10:44.48 | marco | annma: here is akr bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180319 |
| 10:47.48 | pinotree | example of "already reported bug report" |
| 10:48.11 | marco | sorry.. i didn't find it |
| 10:48.51 | marco | how can i remove it ? |
| 10:48.58 | pinotree | you don't |
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| 10:49.59 | marco | ok.. |
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| 10:50.31 | derek_k | marco: it looks like it checks the existance of backends, but to quote : * By default and if available backend "redland" is used. |
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| 10:51.06 | marco | maybe.. |
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| 10:51.40 | marco | and with redland everything goes really slow |
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| 10:53.06 | derek_k | marco: so if the redland backend is there, it uses it, if not it uses what is available. from a quick look at the code |
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| 11:05.59 | Worf | ok, for my tab completion problem i obviousely did run into https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171895 |
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| 11:27.16 | bluesceada | but i cant find a way to change that somewhere? |
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| 12:15.44 | AssociateX | Hello people |
| 12:15.45 | PhilRod | (or, are there instructions somewhere for getting akonadi server working, so that kres-migrator doesn't give me an error) |
| 12:15.59 | AssociateX | I'm using KDE 4.1.4 kdemod. is there a way to have icons on the desktop like I could with KDE previous to kde4? |
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| 12:17.23 | annma | PhilRod: on userbase there are instruction |
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| 12:18.01 | annma | go there, in the page you'll find a kconfigwriter line to stop these crazy checks |
| 12:18.39 | AssociateX | ChemBro: really? how? |
| 12:18.44 | annma | http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi PhilRod |
| 12:18.51 | znh | oh kde 4.2 is lovely!! but my battery widget has the indication n/a. while acpid is running. other tools can get the status fine |
| 12:18.56 | AssociateX | ChemBro: oh, 4.2, never mind |
| 12:19.00 | AssociateX | I don't have that yet |
| 12:19.49 | annma | hmm no PhilRod |
| 12:21.18 | annma | PhilRod: in fact it is there http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/PIM/Akonadi |
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| 12:21.57 | annma | kwriteconfig --file kres-migratorrc --group Migration --key Enabled --type bool false |
| 12:22.08 | annma | PhilRod: ^^ his disable all KRes checks |
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| 12:22.44 | PhilRod | excellent, thanks annma! |
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| 12:37.49 | annma | presador232: you should check if the session is actually saved |
| 12:38.24 | presador232 | annma, well my panel is always at the bottom with no widgets everytime i reboot my laptop (i want it on top) |
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| 12:38.46 | annma | presador232: now that's a different issue |
| 12:38.57 | annma | presador232: put your panel on top |
| 12:39.24 | annma | do: kquitapp plasma and then plasma in a terminal |
| 12:39.37 | annma | that will restart plasma, which the panel is part of |
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| 12:39.47 | presador232 | annma, okay, just the panel and now widgets? |
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| 12:40.04 | annma | just a panel first |
| 12:40.12 | annma | see if it is restored |
| 12:40.25 | annma | with kquitapp plasma and plasma |
| 12:41.08 | presador232 | annma: after I executed both commands the screen went black, and now my panel is still at the top |
| 12:41.21 | annma | it quitted plasma |
| 12:41.47 | annma | so plasma restores the panel OK |
| 12:41.58 | presador232 | annma, should I add my widgets now, and try saving the session again? |
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| 12:42.30 | annma | save it as it is |
| 12:42.46 | annma | I wonder where it is saved and if plasma is part of it |
| 12:43.28 | presador232 | annma okay thanks for your help, i'm gonna try saving the session and rebooting, thanks again man |
| 12:43.45 | annma | presador232: intuitivelly I would have said that save session is only for apps |
| 12:43.49 | annma | wait |
| 12:43.56 | annma | first, you do not need to reboot |
| 12:44.10 | annma | second: do you have apps running? are they restored? |
| 12:44.24 | annma | first: you only need to logout and back in |
| 12:44.26 | Half-Left | A reboot solves everything :p |
| 12:44.30 | annma | lol |
| 12:44.32 | annma | nope |
| 12:44.34 | annma | second: do you have apps running? are they restored? |
| 12:44.41 | annma | presador232: ^^ |
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| 12:45.01 | annma | Half-Left: do you know if in a saved session plasma stuff is included? |
| 12:45.36 | presador232 | annma, no apps restored after a reboot, oh I only need to logout thats cool |
| 12:45.55 | annma | so open an app as well, save your session |
| 12:46.01 | presador232 | annma, okay, brb |
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| 12:46.57 | Half-Left | annma: Not sure, only apps that are support are so, not sure |
| 12:47.13 | root | KDE 3.5 is flickering when i selected all desktop effects |
| 12:47.29 | root | Any Solution ? |
| 12:47.44 | root | Not able to open settings again |
| 12:48.01 | annma | desktop effects in kde3? |
| 12:48.04 | Half-Left | annma: As you may know plasma gets saved on exit and during the session |
| 12:48.12 | root | yes KDE 3.5 |
| 12:48.26 | root | I want to restore plasma |
| 12:48.27 | annma | Half-Left: I want to know if it is part of saved sassion |
| 12:48.37 | annma | root: plasma is only KDE 4 |
| 12:48.38 | Jucato | root: KDE 3 doesn't have desktop effects nor plasma. you're probably using compiz. |
| 12:48.44 | root | ok |
| 12:48.47 | Half-Left | I would guess so, but thats a guess |
| 12:48.55 | annma | root: ask your distribution channel and first, do not IRC as root |
| 12:48.57 | root | I want solution to reset Plasma |
| 12:49.08 | annma | root: ask your distribution channel and first, do not IRC as root |
| 12:49.18 | root | it is locked |
| 12:49.25 | root | Fedora channel is locked |
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| 12:49.30 | annma | because you are root |
| 12:49.31 | jazka | because you're root |
| 12:49.32 | presador223 | hey it worked, thanks annma :) |
| 12:49.33 | Jucato | root: because you are root |
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| 12:49.36 | jazka | heh |
| 12:49.43 | WMP | hi |
| 12:49.50 | WMP | how to check my kde version |
| 12:49.52 | pusling | and now. all at once: because you are root. |
| 12:49.53 | presador223 | gives annma a cookie |
| 12:50.02 | root | what shud i do ? |
| 12:50.05 | annma | presador223: hmm I did nothing in fact |
| 12:50.11 | jazka | log out and login as a normal user |
| 12:50.11 | Half-Left | wonders if root got the point :p |
| 12:50.17 | annma | root: log as a USER |
| 12:50.24 | root | ok |
| 12:50.28 | annma | root is administrator |
| 12:50.37 | annma | I can come into your machine and erase your data |
| 12:50.44 | annma | you are unsafe |
| 12:50.45 | presador223 | annma, well w/e you said, solved my problem so ty sir! |
| 12:50.48 | pusling | hacker-annma |
| 12:50.48 | root | annma:where is ok |
| 12:50.52 | annma | #fedora does not want you as root |
| 12:51.02 | Jucato | WMP: check which KDE 4 version or whether KDE 3 or KDE 4? |
| 12:51.09 | WMP | kde4 |
| 12:51.17 | Jucato | WMP: if which KDE 4 version, any KDE 4 app -> Help -> About KDE |
| 12:51.23 | Jucato | or "kde4-config --version" |
| 12:51.34 | WMP | thx |
| 12:51.43 | WMP | KDE 4.1.87 - good ;) |
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| 12:51.57 | annma | root again |
| 12:52.07 | root | i m not getting how to login as user |
| 12:52.19 | annma | create a user |
| 12:52.25 | root | ok |
| 12:52.39 | annma | distros usually ask that before login in |
| 12:52.44 | WMP | when i click to kmenu my plasma was crach |
| 12:53.06 | Half-Left | How can you even miss that on a fedora install |
| 12:53.06 | annma | WMP: you need to have the debug packages installed and pastebin crash report |
| 12:53.20 | annma | maybe he is using a LiveCD? |
| 12:53.27 | annma | is that possible? |
| 12:53.36 | Jucato | but even live cd's usually have a normal user account |
| 12:53.40 | Half-Left | Maybe |
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| 12:55.45 | WMP | annma: I have compiled kde4 from svn, how to install debug? |
| 12:56.29 | Half-Left | Jucato: It's usually full root access on livecd as I know of |
| 12:56.56 | annma | WMP: if you follow techbase doc, you have debug |
| 12:57.00 | annma | it's a cmake flag |
| 12:57.03 | Jucato | depends on the distro. but most live cd's I've come across have both root and normal user accounts. |
| 12:57.12 | annma | thanks Jucato |
| 12:57.23 | Jucato | some (ubuntu-based) have normal accounts with full sudo and no password :) |
| 12:57.27 | annma | WMP: pastebin your backtrace then |
| 12:57.29 | WMP | annma: read KDE4 compiled on opensuse |
| 12:57.41 | Half-Left | I dont see the point of that but anyway |
| 12:57.47 | WMP | annma: I havent backtrace, my plasma crach and end ;) |
| 12:58.14 | annma | WMP: is it an opensuse build or YOUR build done with techbase doc? |
| 12:58.39 | WMP | annma: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE/Developing/Guide |
| 12:58.43 | annma | if a crash and no backtrace, nobody can help you on it, try a brand new user |
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| 12:58.52 | annma | oh gosh what is that |
| 12:59.02 | Kushal | anma am i root now ? |
| 12:59.09 | WMP | annma: in new user, my ke4 SVN dot start :) |
| 12:59.14 | annma | Kushal: is that you? |
| 12:59.17 | Jucato | Kushal: not anymore. |
| 12:59.17 | Kushal | yes |
| 12:59.23 | Kushal | M i root now? |
| 12:59.27 | annma | Kushal: you are the Kushal I kno? |
| 12:59.30 | annma | know? |
| 12:59.31 | Jucato | try entering #fedora now |
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| 12:59.35 | Kushal | ok |
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| 12:59.42 | Kushal | Yes i got |
| 12:59.43 | annma | or another Kushal |
| 12:59.46 | znh | oh kde 4.2 is lovely!! but my battery widget has the indication n/a. while acpid is running. other tools can get the status fine |
| 12:59.47 | Kushal | thnks |
| 12:59.52 | annma | I guess another one |
| 12:59.52 | Kushal | :) |
| 13:00.00 | znh | what can I do? |
| 13:00.03 | cumulus007 | hmz, kdebase won't compile anymore |
| 13:00.20 | cumulus007 | I installed libpulse-dev, and CMake complains about this: |
| 13:00.24 | Kushal | But in this i din get that problem of flickering screen |
| 13:00.33 | annma | znh: open a bug report and state your battery output |
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| 13:00.55 | cumulus007 | PULSEAUDIO_INCLUDE_DIR is set to NOTFOUND |
| 13:00.57 | annma | cumulus007: rm CMakeCache.txt in build dir |
| 13:01.17 | cumulus007 | ah, so It configures again? |
| 13:01.22 | znh | annma: i'll use a window maker applet then or what it's called |
| 13:01.48 | annma | lcpi something should tell you the info |
| 13:02.02 | Jucato | lspci |
| 13:02.11 | Half-Left | cmake should still find it if you dont remove the cmake cache |
| 13:02.11 | annma | yes |
| 13:02.17 | annma | no flag for battery? |
| 13:02.28 | annma | cumulus007: yes |
| 13:02.40 | annma | Half-Left: cmake SHOULD but does not |
| 13:02.55 | annma | those scripts are not very smart unfortunately |
| 13:03.09 | annma | qt configure doe snto find my custom installed MySQL |
| 13:05.02 | cumulus007 | annma: thanks, it works now |
| 13:05.13 | Half-Left | Silly cmake :p |
| 13:05.23 | annma | yup |
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| 13:24.44 | annma | WMP: you have a debug build |
| 13:25.03 | annma | WMP: if the desktop crashes on a new user then you have something wrong |
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| 13:27.08 | WMP | annma: my mistake, I have runner kde from packages |
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| 13:42.10 | Pawel_Chojnacki | Hello. What's the scanning application in KDE4? |
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| 13:44.55 | Half-Left | Pawel_Chojnacki: KolourPaint |
| 13:45.38 | Pawel_Chojnacki | Half-Left, nothing more uhm.... advanced? |
| 13:45.57 | Half-Left | You just want to scan? |
| 13:45.58 | Fri13 | Hi! How I remove unneeded plasma-containers? I have now 4 plasma containers, two desktop-type and two folder-view type. I want to remove all exepct one. |
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| 13:47.19 | Half-Left | Fri13: The cross on the handle of the widget |
| 13:47.28 | Fri13 | Half-Left: not the widgets/plasmoids, but the containers |
| 13:47.32 | Pawel_Chojnacki | Half-Left, I want to give my friend user-friendly linux desktop, and I wonder if KDE4 is better than GNOME |
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| 13:47.38 | Fri13 | the virtual spaces made with plasma |
| 13:47.49 | annma | Fri13: zoom in and you will see thema ll |
| 13:47.57 | annma | all and you'll be able to remove some |
| 13:48.00 | Pawel_Chojnacki | I can't see any advanced, yet user-friendly scanning app in KDE4 |
| 13:48.27 | cumulus007 | There is one, but it is cancelled |
| 13:48.32 | cumulus007 | dua to a lack of cevelopers |
| 13:48.34 | cumulus007 | *due |
| 13:48.35 | Fri13 | annma: I first zoom out > zoom to one what I want remove and then? |
| 13:48.42 | annma | Fri13: when you zoom in, you see a red x for each activity |
| 13:49.07 | cumulus007 | Pawel_Chojnacki: http://kooka.kde.org/ |
| 13:49.09 | annma | zoom out maybe sorry (I am in French) |
| 13:49.16 | annma | you can zoom out from anyone |
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| 13:49.19 | cumulus007 | "Kooka was dropped from the kdegraphics module for KDE 4. The reason for this is the lack of active development and maintenance for long time." |
| 13:49.22 | annma | you'll see them all anyway |
| 13:49.48 | Pawel_Chojnacki | I know Kooka pretty well, yet I think it's definetely not user-friendly :) |
| 13:50.02 | Pawel_Chojnacki | and I'm suprised there isn't any replacement in KDE4 |
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| 13:51.05 | cumulus007 | Pawel_Chojnacki: yeah, there should be a nice scanning program |
| 13:51.23 | Half-Left | Pawel_Chojnacki: As I said Kolour Paint, it's easy, has a scan option |
| 13:51.45 | cumulus007 | Kooka looks very userfriendly |
| 13:51.47 | cumulus007 | http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.2/snapshot21.png |
| 13:51.58 | Jucato | there is one in develoment (skanlite). and in KDE 4, all apps that need scanning can make use of ksaneplugin |
| 13:52.13 | Fri13 | annma: I have zoomed now two times. After first zoom, I get options to zoom in, zoom out, and two wrench. Other is for folderview and other for desktop (if container is such). But I dont see any cross (or red ;-) ) |
| 13:52.35 | annma | no? |
| 13:52.37 | Pawel_Chojnacki | cumulus007, only looks ;) |
| 13:52.56 | Jucato | I've seen/used worse |
| 13:53.04 | Pawel_Chojnacki | I've been using Kooka (or rather helping my mother with using it) for about a year and it's definetely NOT user-friendly. |
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| 13:53.33 | annma | Fri13: I see red crosses for all activities except the first desktop |
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| 13:53.41 | Jucato | the UI is very much configurable (you can close almost all the docks/panels) |
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| 13:54.00 | Fri13 | annma: Well, I have 4.1.96 version and just dont see :-D |
| 13:54.12 | annma | very weird |
| 13:55.06 | annma | wait I'll paste a screenshot |
| 13:55.14 | Half-Left | Fri13: KolourPaint is a simple case of File>Scan :) |
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| 13:56.43 | Pawel_Chojnacki | Jucato, but it's quite unintuitive that I can't scan directly into a file, but I have to create a Kooka Gallery. Even Windows Scanning Utility is better than that |
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| 13:57.16 | Jucato | hm... I can't really recall.. but last time I used it (which was a long time ago, I didn't have to create a gallery |
| 13:57.20 | Half-Left | Erm |
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| 13:57.46 | annma | Fri13: imagebin seems not working |
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| 13:57.56 | _RedGhostBis_ | howdi |
| 13:58.01 | _RedGhostBis_ | -i+y |
| 13:58.08 | Jucato | Half-Left: yep,that's ksaneplugin afaik |
| 13:58.15 | Jucato | if you're referring to KDE 4 kolourpaint |
| 13:58.19 | Half-Left | Yep |
| 13:58.27 | _RedGhostBis_ | Is Sonnet's language autodetection supposed to be functional in 4.2? |
| 13:58.35 | annma | Fri13: http://imagebin.ca/view/VnG9bd.html |
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| 13:59.36 | Fri13 | annma: Oh now... nothing like that... |
| 13:59.47 | annma | ah |
| 13:59.54 | annma | how did you install? |
| 14:00.30 | Fri13 | annma: Mandriva cooker version. I have never seen any close buttons ever... Not with openSUSE, mandriva or Arch. Even used different machines and users. |
| 14:00.51 | Jucato | Half-Left, Pawel_Chojnacki: http://jucato.org/stuff/ksaneplugin.jpeg |
| 14:00.56 | Fri13 | annma: Thats why I have always tought that containers state is very early in it's development. |
| 14:00.59 | annma | what version is cooker? this is trunk but was so before the freeze obviously |
| 14:01.09 | Fri13 | annma: yesterday updated. |
| 14:01.12 | Half-Left | Jucato: Yep, I've used it |
| 14:01.25 | Jucato | Half-Left: just wanted to confirm we're talkign about the same thing :) |
| 14:01.27 | annma | Fri13: so you have something wrong |
| 14:01.32 | Half-Left | We are :) |
| 14:01.35 | Pawel_Chojnacki | Jucato, I'll take a look, but get to go... |
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| 14:02.51 | Fri13 | annma: Thats why I am great tester because I found all bugs ;-) |
| 14:03.04 | Fri13 | annma: http://imagebin.ca/view/D_3cTfix.html |
| 14:03.31 | Fri13 | annma: those are all what I get... |
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| 14:04.41 | the_p | hello. i installed kde 4.1.3 with ebuilds under gentoo now i tried to install the trunk with the guide on techbase but now i have problems because cmake finds the wrong libraries. |
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| 14:05.31 | annma | just set your env vars correctly the_p |
| 14:05.38 | annma | I am exactly doing that right now |
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| 14:08.22 | the_p | annma: which variable is responsible for automoc4? |
| 14:08.27 | reavertm | the_p: cmake uses ldconfig paths - you need to reorder them appropriately |
| 14:08.56 | reavertm | nothing related to automoc or any other particular package |
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| 14:09.37 | reavertm | the_p: try playing with env.d/kdepaths |
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| 14:15.55 | Fri13 | annma: You do not believe this.... I played a time with the zoombuttons and suddenly all buttons were there :-D |
| 14:15.59 | the_p | reavertm: i have a .bashrc which overwrites the settings which are done in env.d/kdepaths |
| 14:16.02 | Fri13 | annma: thanks your time :-D |
| 14:16.30 | annma | Fri13: :) you're welcome |
| 14:17.04 | the_p | reavertm: cmake finds the wrong automoc. but when i look at the output of export there are only paths set to the local install. |
| 14:17.26 | sidh | hello everybody |
| 14:17.41 | sidh | annma: hello |
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| 14:18.33 | sidh | i'm running debian testing and kde 4 is still not in the official packages, but there is a backport to get it |
| 14:18.52 | the_p | reavertm: it seems to work now i had to remove the cmakecache. |
| 14:19.03 | reavertm | yeah.. |
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| 14:19.12 | sidh | so i would like to know if some people here use kde 4.1.X for professional pupose ? |
| 14:19.18 | sidh | purpose |
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| 14:19.37 | annma | some are, yes |
| 14:19.48 | annma | I was told some unis have it sidh |
| 14:19.50 | reavertm | it's stable enough at least |
| 14:20.00 | annma | I was a bit surprised though |
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| 14:20.57 | sidh | ok so i think i will try the "big" upgrade ... |
| 14:21.08 | C-MoH | hey; anyone here using dejavu fonts and hit the problem of kde selecting the condensed version of dejavu instead of the normal one? |
| 14:21.11 | sidh | making some prayers first |
| 14:21.23 | sidh | and burn some encens stick |
| 14:21.41 | sidh | to the glory of God Qt |
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| 14:30.52 | [Kame2] | sidh: you know that 4.2 is at the corner? I would wait for that |
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| 14:32.46 | sidh | [Kame2]: do you have an idea how long i wait for an official kde4 relaease in debian ? while other distros have them for one year now ? |
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| 14:33.51 | [Kame2] | i never used debian, so: no. isn't there a way to get a just released kde from somewhere? |
| 14:33.55 | jacekowski | sidh: better wait |
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| 14:34.30 | jacekowski | sidh: kde4 is not working very well yet |
| 14:34.54 | jacekowski | sidh: especially on nvidia graphic cards |
| 14:35.03 | Half-Left | jacekowski: Thats not accurate really |
| 14:35.05 | [Kame2] | jacekowski: fore some it doesn't for some it's very good... i use it since the first beta's and never had any big problem |
| 14:35.10 | [Kame2] | -e |
| 14:35.26 | [Kame2] | (beta of 4.1) |
| 14:35.47 | annma | jacekowski: did you look at the doc on userbase for your graphic card? |
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| 14:36.09 | Half-Left | Compiz has problems as well with nvidia drivers so it not just KDE4.x |
| 14:36.26 | jacekowski | annma: beta 180 drivers fixed it |
| 14:36.40 | sidh | i use intel graphic card for their awareness for open communities |
| 14:36.46 | Half-Left | 180.22 drivers are a big improvement for KDE4.x as well |
| 14:36.56 | annma | jacekowski: so is it working well now? |
| 14:37.01 | jacekowski | annma: sort of |
| 14:37.09 | annma | what is not working well then |
| 14:37.16 | Fri13 | annma: yes, NVIDIA is now working (at last!) |
| 14:37.25 | annma | :) |
| 14:37.25 | [Kame2] | sidh: i use intel too. just be sure that intel uses exa and all is good |
| 14:37.28 | jacekowski | annma: i can't use compositing as it then looks like 16bit color |
| 14:37.43 | sidh | exa ? |
| 14:37.46 | Fri13 | annma: and there was big problem with Xorg 1.6 what is shipped now on new distribution releases what was incompatible with ATI and NVIDIA drivers. |
| 14:37.52 | annma | yes |
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| 14:38.20 | jacekowski | sidh: but performance of intel cards is poor |
| 14:38.22 | [Kame2] | Option "AccelMethod" "exa" in the device section of your xorg.conf |
| 14:38.32 | [Kame2] | jacekowski: that's not true |
| 14:38.35 | jacekowski | sidh: i prefer nvidia, never had any issues with them |
| 14:38.53 | Fri13 | jacekowski: it will get faster. Linux OS 2.6.28 includes GEM what will speed integrated Intel chips 40-50% |
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| 14:39.06 | annma | in kde i can't see any performance difference jacekowski |
| 14:39.16 | Fri13 | I preferr ATI, lat time I got problems was... KDE 3.1.x ;-) |
| 14:39.23 | [Kame2] | 3D performance on intel is not very strong, but you don't need a strong 3D performance for desktop effects. they work liquid with intel |
| 14:39.25 | jacekowski | annma: but in games you can |
| 14:39.33 | annma | we're speaking of KDE here |
| 14:39.46 | annma | and kde has no demanding games unfortunately |
| 14:39.57 | Fri13 | annma:... should it? ;) |
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| 14:40.20 | Fri13 | annma: I am very happy that Kwin effects do not require fast 3D card... |
| 14:40.40 | annma | yes |
| 14:40.40 | jacekowski | i've been using compiz on gf2 mx |
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| 14:40.56 | annma | the kwin effects developer is amazing |
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| 14:41.31 | Fri13 | jacekowski: I used Compiz-fusion on GF2 when it was still compiz and beryl, but since then I need GF4 state card to smooth animation. |
| 14:41.33 | farhad_hf | hi there |
| 14:41.38 | Fri13 | farhad_hf: Hi |
| 14:41.51 | farhad_hf | i have an error after starting akonadi in kde svn version . "Could not create client-side bridge, check if akonadi Kresource bridge is installed" , where is kresource bridge? how can i install it? |
| 14:41.59 | farhad_hf | Fri13, hi :) |
| 14:42.14 | annma | farhad_hf: how did you install your KDE? |
| 14:43.14 | farhad_hf | annma, i installed it bye compiling sources from svn trunk |
| 14:43.28 | jacekowski | Fri13: i've been using compiz then beryl, then i changed card to fx 5500 and later on i changed beryl to compiz-fusion |
| 14:43.30 | farhad_hf | bye* |
| 14:43.34 | farhad_hf | by* :)) |
| 14:43.38 | annma | how do you start akonadi? |
| 14:45.04 | farhad_hf | i start it from systemsettings-->advanced-->akonadi configuration |
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| 14:45.52 | farhad_hf | annma, ^ |
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| 14:47.35 | annma | the kres is in kdepim |
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| 14:50.36 | farhad_hf | annma, thank you |
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| 14:53.00 | aSaSSinoooo | hello! |
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| 14:59.36 | tuxick | again lost keyboard, anyone know if this is a bug in kde4 or nvidia driver? |
| 14:59.41 | tuxick | it's getting VERY annoying |
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| 15:00.19 | DerHorst | Hm |
| 15:00.29 | DerHorst | Maybe its fallen down the desk? |
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| 15:00.42 | tuxick | not even windows is this bad |
| 15:01.00 | animeloe | annma: you there? |
| 15:01.12 | DerHorst | Is the keyboard a cordless or one with cable? |
| 15:01.27 | tuxick | the keyboard is fine, it's kde screwing up |
| 15:01.36 | tuxick | when i kill kde console works fine |
| 15:01.44 | tuxick | it's with cable, usb |
| 15:02.10 | DerHorst | So if it is connected to your computer, you may see the port you plugged it in and follow the cable and finaly you may find your keyboard again |
| 15:02.21 | animeloe | DerHorst: |
| 15:02.28 | animeloe | hey |
| 15:02.39 | tuxick | DerHorst: yeye very funny |
| 15:02.50 | DerHorst | He said, he lost it ._. |
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| 15:02.56 | tuxick | but having to restart kde several times a day is not funny |
| 15:03.03 | seele | is there a way to restart plasma without logging out of kde? |
| 15:03.19 | reavertm | kquitapp plasma && plasma |
| 15:03.24 | pinotree | seele: alt+f2, kquitapp plasma && plasma |
| 15:03.31 | Half-Left | tuxick: What makes you think it's KDE, what about distro, what version, steps to reproduce? |
| 15:03.43 | seele | pinotree: thanks |
| 15:03.48 | tuxick | Half-Left: i could be the nvidia driver, dunno |
| 15:04.08 | tuxick | all i know is that random moments the keyboard stops working |
| 15:04.14 | tuxick | including capslock etc |
| 15:04.30 | tuxick | kde-4.1.3 on gentoo btw |
| 15:04.36 | animeloe | gentoo.... |
| 15:04.43 | animeloe | could be an Xserver issue |
| 15:05.07 | tuxick | well nvidia provides drivers that should never be allowed to drive anyway |
| 15:05.17 | tuxick | but all these trouble started with kde4 |
| 15:05.22 | tuxick | never had such issues on 3 |
| 15:05.22 | animeloe | well... |
| 15:05.27 | Half-Left | Well why dont you remove it and use nv or versa and check? |
| 15:05.33 | animeloe | your DISTRO version may be defunc |
| 15:05.37 | Half-Left | vesa* |
| 15:05.47 | animeloe | don't blame the program itself unless you compile it from scratch |
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| 15:05.58 | tuxick | oh i tried svn as well |
| 15:06.00 | tuxick | same problem |
| 15:06.09 | animeloe | uhh |
| 15:06.15 | tuxick | but at least this time ctrl-f works in konsole |
| 15:06.24 | tuxick | that's quite rare |
| 15:06.31 | tuxick | in konqueror i mean |
| 15:06.31 | Half-Left | Myabe your xorg |
| 15:06.34 | Half-Left | maybe* |
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| 15:06.57 | tuxick | that still means there's a problem in 4 |
| 15:07.01 | tuxick | all problems started there |
| 15:07.12 | tuxick | the horrible lag, crashes, keyboard trouble |
| 15:07.23 | tuxick | and yes, nvidia is to blame |
| 15:07.25 | tuxick | i'll try nv |
| 15:07.40 | reavertm | nvidia works fine here.. |
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| 15:09.14 | animeloe | which driver version tuxick |
| 15:09.35 | tuxick | i tried them all |
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| 15:09.38 | tuxick | now on 180.22 |
| 15:09.53 | tuxick | reavertm: sadly there's lots of nvidia cards |
| 15:10.11 | tuxick | i had to tweak a lot to get acceptable performance at all |
| 15:10.26 | tuxick | ok, on nv now |
| 15:10.36 | tuxick | lessee if i can crash it with kmail |
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| 15:11.00 | animeloe | watches it crash with flying colours |
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| 15:16.27 | tuxick | ok, ruled out nvidia |
| 15:16.55 | tuxick | kmail crashes kde-4.1.3 when effects enabled, and keyboard now not working at all on -svn |
| 15:17.19 | tuxick | for the rest the nv driver does better than expected |
| 15:18.02 | animeloe | told ou it's not nvidia |
| 15:18.38 | tuxick | never hurts to make sure |
| 15:19.10 | tuxick | i also bet 2 coffee and a beer i will have no issues at all with windowmaker or gnome |
| 15:19.15 | tuxick | at least not these issues |
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| 15:21.52 | tuxick | guess i'll have to live with it until 4.2 is stable |
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| 15:27.15 | sidh | do you know a website where some statistics are available with the most used distribution with KDE ? |
| 15:29.43 | smurfslover | sidh: there's a list on distrowatch which distro gets the most hits |
| 15:29.55 | smurfslover | but doesn't say anything about the quality of a distro |
| 15:30.05 | smurfslover | only about it's popularity on distrowatch |
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| 15:31.36 | sidh | smurfslover: well that is not exactly what i 'm searching for |
| 15:32.40 | sidh | for example , i've heard that ubuntu has made a clear preference for gnome , and won't be a task force for kde implementing |
| 15:32.48 | sidh | what i'm looking for |
| 15:33.24 | sidh | is a distribution that has made preference as ubuntu , but for KDE |
| 15:33.47 | sidh | maybe suse desktop ... |
| 15:33.48 | arezey | knoppix? :P |
| 15:33.59 | ChemBro | pc linux os? |
| 15:34.06 | smurfslover | suse is nice and easy for beginners |
| 15:34.24 | smurfslover | pclinuxos is nice to but only has kde3 for now |
| 15:34.35 | smurfslover | but very fast and stable |
| 15:34.49 | smurfslover | and easy |
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| 15:35.05 | smurfslover | mandriva and pardus |
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| 15:35.33 | Ronis_BR | does anyone know how i can configure KDE4 spell checker? |
| 15:36.11 | smurfslover | sidh: do you want kde3 or 4 |
| 15:36.18 | sidh | 4 |
| 15:36.39 | animeloe | 5 |
| 15:37.05 | smurfslover | mandriva or suse for 4.1.3 |
| 15:37.10 | smurfslover | suse or arch for 4.2 |
| 15:37.17 | smurfslover | my personal favourites |
| 15:37.41 | sidh | ok |
| 15:38.11 | sidh | thank you |
| 15:38.17 | sidh | for your feedback |
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| 15:39.01 | MathStuf | hi, kwallet is having errors when trying to open my wallet |
| 15:39.12 | MathStuf | is there any way to find out what the error is? |
| 15:39.25 | animeloe | put some money in the bank :) |
| 15:39.38 | MathStuf | :P |
| 15:39.55 | animeloe | that always solves wallet issues :) |
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| 15:42.37 | animeloe | not spending money on adult entertainment is another good way :P |
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| 15:46.33 | gionny | lol |
| 15:46.37 | lenscape_ | MathStuf: try starting kwallet from a konsole |
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| 15:47.45 | MathStuf | it starts the task tray and i get no output |
| 15:48.03 | MathStuf | (it got this way after my 4.1.3->4.1.85 upgrade) |
| 15:48.06 | MathStuf | still like this in 4.1.96 |
| 15:48.08 | animeloe | did you forget to pay the bills MathStuf ? |
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| 16:11.52 | zak_ | annma: may i pv you please ? |
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| 16:12.34 | zak_ | where can i find my ksplash themes on kde4? |
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| 16:13.23 | driva2009 | hi all. anyone here good with serious configuration? I have something i'd like to ask. I am in kde 4.1.3, mandriva 2009.0. I have managed to kill plasma and run kde4 with kdesktop and kicker. |
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| 16:13.51 | driva2009 | Is it possible to configure kde 4 so it doesn't launch plasma and instead launches kdesktop and kicker by default? |
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| 16:14.30 | ganeshix | Hi all... |
| 16:15.00 | gionny | driva2009: I don't know that, but I can tell you that kde 4.2 will let you use an "old style" desktop if you want... so I suggest you to wait for KDE 4.2 and try that, before becoming nut to understand how to do what you wanna do |
| 16:15.02 | MathStuf | driva2009: there should be some place in systemsettings to say "don't start these apps at startup" |
| 16:15.10 | Half-Left | driva2009: Maybe make a script on startup saying kquitapp Plasma |
| 16:15.12 | ganeshix | Simple question: how to search for an application on the KDE menu (KDE 3.5.9.) without reading each option one by one? I remember there was a nice command line option, but it's been a long time since I used it... |
| 16:15.18 | driva2009 | plasma is driving me nuts. no matter where i put stuff and lock the widgets down, they always go back to where they were when i restart. kdesktop and kicker don't do that. |
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| 16:16.05 | MathStuf | driva2009: i didn't have that issue in 4.1.85, don't remember 4.1.3 (don't think i had any plasmoids at that point) |
| 16:16.20 | gionny | driva2009: really? I don't have this problem... maybe plasma does not exit "clean" when you logout? |
| 16:16.25 | driva2009 | Half-Left: i wouldn't know where to start to make a script. i could get it to kquitapp plasma by putting that in a touch command. |
| 16:16.44 | pinotree | driva2009: try to do your changes, then "kquitapp plasma && plasma" should do the job |
| 16:17.04 | gionny | driva2009: if I am not mistaken, you can go in the system settings -> advanced -> session, and there you can exclude whatever you want from your session |
| 16:17.19 | gionny | driva2009: maybe you can exclude plasma, too... I don't know if it works, but it has sense |
| 16:17.33 | gionny | it's worth a try, I guess |
| 16:17.37 | Half-Left | driva2009: It's just a text file in saying kquitapp plasma :p |
| 16:17.39 | pinotree | plasma is not saved with the session |
| 16:17.49 | gionny | oh, ok, it doesn't work! I tried it :P |
| 16:18.15 | Half-Left | Plasma should be saves on logout and during session |
| 16:18.20 | Half-Left | saved* |
| 16:18.34 | driva2009 | Half-Left: ok then. But I also need the script to start kdesktop and kicker instead. also, where in the system would I put it and how would I initiate it? |
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| 16:18.51 | J0hny | hi guys |
| 16:18.55 | Half-Left | driva2009: Same way |
| 16:19.01 | J0hny | i was a big KDE fan before KDE 4 :) |
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| 16:19.36 | J0hny | is KDE3 still supported? If so, for how much time? |
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| 16:19.48 | driva2009 | Half-Left: So I would start it by doing touch <wherever the script was> ? |
| 16:20.01 | Half-Left | J0hny: I was a big fan of KDE after 4 :p |
| 16:20.07 | pinotree | driva2009: what about trying at least once to save manually the plasma configuration, instead of messying up? |
| 16:20.38 | pinotree | J0hny: most of it is no more supported, some parts still are |
| 16:20.40 | J0hny | Half-Left LOOOOL |
| 16:20.46 | driva2009 | pinotree: I have tried before. It doesn't work. I like kde4, just wish it was a bit easier to use. |
| 16:21.03 | J0hny | pinotree, so there might be some packet conflicts |
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| 16:21.26 | J0hny | KDE 4 is the most buggy thing I ever saw, and the most ugly |
| 16:21.36 | pinotree | ahaha |
| 16:21.39 | driva2009 | and I had a desktop that looked like a desktop, instead of like a bunch of things pinned to a background. Widgets may suit some people, and some not. In my case, not. |
| 16:21.44 | castingcrowns | J0hny: Say it aint so |
| 16:21.59 | pinotree | J0hny: you never saw kde 2 or kde 1, it seems |
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| 16:22.15 | driva2009 | I preferred kdesktop, but I have been told its not supported anymore. |
| 16:22.20 | gionny | driva2009: as I said before, KDE 4.2 will have an option to let you use an "old style" desktop. Check it at KDE website |
| 16:22.42 | gionny | driva2009: oh... and it should be out by the end of the month |
| 16:22.43 | Half-Left | It's amazing how many people used KDE3.5 and thought it was the whole 3 series |
| 16:22.46 | J0hny | pinotree LOL, it's true, I used KDE 3 at the begining |
| 16:22.50 | pinotree | driva2009: then it looks like it is a local bug on your system, as it generally work |
| 16:23.07 | pinotree | J0hny: no LOL please, i am serious. |
| 16:23.47 | castingcrowns | How can I gather crash information? My Konqueror crashes when I right click and choose properties on a folder. seems to work fine for other files though. |
| 16:23.47 | Half-Left | Beginning of 3.5 more like :p |
| 16:23.48 | J0hny | pinotree I have no doubt. I wonder if someone in this chan is still using KDE 4 |
| 16:23.49 | pinotree | J0hny: you -never- saw kde 1, so just avoid this kind of "general statements about users and life", please, because they are plain false and stupid. |
| 16:24.09 | pinotree | J0hny: "still"? i think more people than what you think |
| 16:24.10 | gionny | driva2009: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.2-beta2.php <-- check the image Desktop as Folder View (traditional desktop) |
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| 16:24.58 | ChemBro | J0hny: you mean "if someone is still using KDE 3", aren't you? |
| 16:25.28 | J0hny | pinotree, my statement was regarding to me, you don't have to be mad or smth |
| 16:25.32 | driva2009 | gionny: YAY! |
| 16:25.57 | driva2009 | It looks like its supposed to, instead of a notice on a damn pinboard :) |
| 16:25.57 | J0hny | ChemBro well I would use KDE 3 @ Ubuntu 8.10 but I've heard that it's not fully supported |
| 16:25.58 | gionny | driva2009: that's what you want, right? just wait a little bit... we're close to KDE 4.2 stable :) |
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| 16:26.31 | driva2009 | gionny: I'll be hanging on for it. In the mean time, I'll do the script things for now. |
| 16:26.37 | ChemBro | "not fully supported"? what does this mean? |
| 16:26.42 | pinotree | J0hny: i do, when people like to throw false statements like those |
| 16:27.05 | Half-Left | J0hny: Well before you make big assumptions like that you have to back them up in here :) |
| 16:27.39 | J0hny | pinotree, my question is: are you satisfied with KDE 4? |
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| 16:28.08 | IrishW0lf_afk | is away: Gone away for now |
| 16:28.09 | pinotree | why should i am not? |
| 16:28.45 | J0hny | I have a stupid problem with KNetworkManager, for example. It looked like my wireless con. was only 25%. iwlist scan showed like 100%, GNOME showed 100% too :) |
| 16:29.06 | pinotree | that's just a single application |
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| 16:29.36 | Rasi | can i somehow change kdm, so my session is english? |
| 16:29.37 | gionny | J0hny: a single application, that, besides, it is still using kde3 libs afaik |
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| 16:30.10 | gionny | so it would be exactly the same in kde3 |
| 16:30.16 | J0hny | gionny it is corious, on KDE3 never had that problem :) |
| 16:30.51 | Half-Left | Yer, KDE3 never had bugs or issues like that, right... right.... |
| 16:30.56 | gionny | J0hny: so there has been a regression in kdenetworkmanager... or some package problem |
| 16:31.53 | gionny | it can be a distro-specific bug, too |
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| 16:32.15 | gionny | because with archlinux and KDE 4 I don't have that issue |
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| 16:32.38 | J0hny | hmmm |
| 16:33.04 | J0hny | is there a way I can remove KNetworkManager from the startup? |
| 16:33.29 | Half-Left | And you claim you've used KDE from start, lol |
| 16:33.45 | J0hny | well |
| 16:33.48 | J0hny | yes I did |
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| 16:33.58 | J0hny | now i've installed gnome |
| 16:34.09 | J0hny | and KNM it's loading with Gnome |
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| 16:34.15 | annma | so ask in #gnome for knetworkmanager |
| 16:34.15 | J0hny | and I don't understand why |
| 16:34.35 | J0hny | annma thank you, you're far too kind |
| 16:35.00 | annma | in kde we have an autostart manager |
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| 16:35.30 | gionny | J0hny: anma is right, it's a gnome session problem, you should ask in #gnome |
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| 16:35.43 | J0hny | I thought about sysv-rc-conf but it's not appearing |
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| 16:42.52 | gionny | after last KDE upgrade (kde 4.1.4) I am noticing that in Dolphin the "Paste" menu item and ctrl+v keyboard shortcut is always disabled, even if I have something to paste and I have write permission in that directory. Is somebody else experiencing the same problem? |
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| 16:43.15 | gionny | I am using ArchLinux with kdemod repo. I don't know if this is a distro-specific bug or a KDE bug |
| 16:43.23 | annma | gionny: it was OK in 4.1.3? |
| 16:43.31 | annma | I remember something with paste |
| 16:43.32 | gionny | annma: yes |
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| 16:43.37 | annma | it's a bug then |
| 16:43.42 | gionny | annma: in KDE 4.1.3 was ok |
| 16:43.57 | gionny | annma: should I fire this bug report to KDE, then, and not to ArchLinux? |
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| 16:44.16 | annma | to KDe |
| 16:44.25 | gionny | ok, thanks annma |
| 16:44.46 | annma | try looking first if it doe snot exist already |
| 16:44.52 | gionny | yes, of course |
| 16:44.56 | reavertm | I remember reporting this bug already months ago btw (empty clipboard for kfile issue) |
| 16:45.05 | factotum | hi all, just installed the GTK-QT theme engine on slackware 12.2. Can someone point me to where in the menu list I enable it on KDE 3.5.10? |
| 16:45.09 | reavertm | (not via bugzilla probably) |
| 16:45.14 | factotum | sorry, but I haven't used KDE in a while |
| 16:45.27 | annma | reavertm: bugs should be reported to bugzilla to be treated |
| 16:45.51 | gionny | reavertm: it is exactly as you are saying... it's not that it doesn't work the paste... copy is the problem |
| 16:45.57 | reavertm | I asked asked in kde-devel and dfaure fixed it next or same day |
| 16:46.04 | gionny | I got an empty clipboard |
| 16:46.40 | annma | reavertm: so why is it in kde 4.1.4? |
| 16:47.00 | reavertm | I was using trunk, maybe it was not backported |
| 16:47.52 | annma | gionny: dfaure is not there anyway, it's Sunday |
| 16:47.56 | reavertm | also I don't remember it in 4.1... |
| 16:48.20 | factotum | err..hmmm...I might try restarting KDE here a sec |
| 16:48.38 | reavertm | it was rather some few days trunk regression to me |
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| 16:51.13 | factotum | well, I tried restarting X and according so what I've read, the GTK setting should be showing up under Control Center > Appearance & Themes > ? |
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| 17:18.38 | tuxick | hmm, i find lots of reports about keyboard not responding on kde4 |
| 17:18.42 | tuxick | i'm not alone!! |
| 17:18.44 | tuxick | \o |
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| 17:20.39 | sputnick | hi there |
| 17:21.00 | tuxick | oh, alt-f1 is also not working |
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| 17:24.57 | sputnick | is the khotkey "type" shortcuts works properly ? Doesn't work for me. (like exemples with Shift+H:E:L:L:O) I'm on debian Lenny with kdebase 4:4.1.3-1 |
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| 17:28.39 | sputnick | no problem on kde3 with that feature |
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| 17:33.45 | tuxick | sputnick: i have many hotkeys not working |
| 17:34.46 | Fri13 | How do I disable the blue shadow on active window when using KWin effects 4.1.96? |
| 17:34.49 | Half-Left | tuk |
| 17:35.32 | Half-Left | tuxick: Instead of keep banging on about it add a bug report or add to a exsisting one, keep going on about it want fix it |
| 17:36.31 | Half-Left | Fri13: Shadows in desktop effects |
| 17:37.04 | Half-Left | won't* |
| 17:37.18 | tuxick | i'm trying to find a pattern |
| 17:37.42 | tuxick | Zarro Boogs found. |
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| 17:41.41 | sputnick | tuxick: which ones ? did you find a workaround ? did you report a bugreport ? |
| 17:43.22 | tuxick | sputnick: crtl-f and f3 in konqueror usually fail, alt-f1 is dead |
| 17:43.31 | tuxick | and i'm battling the evil bugzilla now |
| 17:43.34 | tuxick | there's some reports |
| 17:45.01 | tuxick | the workaround is "restart X" |
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| 17:47.41 | tuxick | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171685 |
| 17:47.45 | tuxick | that's the one i guess |
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| 17:50.38 | Worf | hmm ... is it a bug or a feature that one cannot select a file anymore in the konqueror details view by clicking on it? ( kde4.2-rc1, comparing to 3.5.x ) |
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| 17:52.27 | annma | hey Bou |
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| 17:52.38 | Bou | hello annma |
| 17:52.43 | annma | is that you in the bug report about Desktop folderview? |
| 17:52.54 | Bou | number? |
| 17:53.06 | Worf | nope - i only yet complained about missing tab completion in konqueror :) |
| 17:53.23 | annma | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180231 |
| 17:53.24 | Bou | (oh not for me) |
| 17:53.40 | annma | Bou: yes for you, sorry |
| 17:53.41 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Should work, yes. |
| 17:53.52 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: What happens when you try? |
| 17:54.11 | Bou | annma: no, this is not me, coincidence :) |
| 17:54.16 | annma | oh OK |
| 17:54.40 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: well, nothing, unless i click on the tiny folder. in kde 3 you could klick anywhere on the line |
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| 17:55.01 | Worf | i fear it's intended |
| 17:55.13 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: That's semi-by-design, although Peter says he's happy to have it optional for Konqueror. |
| 17:55.22 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: File a wishlist against Dolphin. |
| 17:55.23 | Bou | annma: still using the twitter plasmoid? |
| 17:55.45 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: they use both the same view widgets? |
| 17:55.46 | annma | yes |
| 17:55.50 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Yes. |
| 17:55.52 | annma | anything I should check? |
| 17:56.08 | Bou | annma: i have this strange behavior when clicking a link displayed in a tweet: |
| 17:56.29 | Bou | annma: konqueror looks opening (i see it in task bar), but finally the link opens in firefox :S |
| 17:56.46 | annma | oh |
| 17:57.05 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Post the bug id here when you're done. |
| 17:57.14 | annma | did you set Firefox as default browser in system settings? |
| 17:57.42 | Bou | i guess so |
| 17:58.02 | Bou | system settings / default application ? |
| 17:58.09 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: checking for existing reports right now |
| 17:58.17 | SSJ_GZ | k |
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| 17:58.46 | annma | Bou: yes |
| 17:58.53 | Bou | i 've set it to firefox there, before it was "choose application according to content http/https", |
| 17:58.57 | annma | konqueror should not try to start though |
| 17:59.03 | Bou | and this is always same behavior, nothing changed |
| 17:59.09 | Bou | another detail |
| 17:59.12 | annma | is it trunk? |
| 17:59.21 | annma | my trunk twitter crashes |
| 17:59.32 | Bou | i only know that konqueror launch because it appears in task bar a konqueror entry, but i can't see a konqueror window |
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| 17:59.59 | annma | seems consistent; Is it trunk? |
| 18:00.15 | thrice` | hi all; can anyone help me compiling 4.1.96 ? O |
| 18:00.18 | Bou | and if i right click on the konqueror entry in task bar, it show me menu like if i was right-clicking directly on task bar (edit settings for task bar..) |
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| 18:00.28 | Bou | it's trunk, one week old I think |
| 18:00.32 | annma | ohh |
| 18:00.33 | thrice` | d'oh; i'm getting an error on kdepimlibs: http://rafb.net/p/Bq0kbO38.html |
| 18:00.35 | annma | too old then |
| 18:00.37 | Bou | before 4.2 moved to branch |
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| 18:00.50 | annma | thrice`: I just compiled everything succesfully |
| 18:00.51 | Ju-on | hello |
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| 18:01.02 | Kwirte | Could anybody please help me compiling pykde4? Compiling fails, I don't understand the reason. Complete emerge ist here: http://rafb.net/p/9jYTRl33.html |
| 18:01.09 | Ju-on | is there someone who know a firelight-like which doesnt require kde |
| 18:01.11 | Ju-on | ? |
| 18:01.44 | annma | thrice`: when you pastebin build errors, please do so with make, not with make -jN where N>1 |
| 18:01.51 | annma | so rerun make and repaste |
| 18:02.33 | thrice` | sure; give me a half-hour or so :) |
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| 18:03.01 | annma | thrice`: it won't rebuild anthing |
| 18:03.09 | annma | 2 seconds and yo're done |
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| 18:03.38 | Leoryk_ | hello pls help do you know how can i install Skulpture but only color scheme, window decoration |
| 18:03.48 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168379 looks like the same wish |
| 18:05.22 | tuxick | Kwirte: i ended up disabling pykde4 for plasma |
| 18:05.28 | tuxick | until 'they' fix it |
| 18:06.31 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: I think that's subtley different. |
| 18:07.04 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Or maybe not :) |
| 18:08.04 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: i think it's exactely what i was talking about ... unfortunately the end of the discussion looks like the beginning of a flamewar :( |
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| 18:08.36 | Kwirte | tuxick, but I'd like to install a program that needs pykde4. Did you have the same error? |
| 18:08.42 | Fri13 | Half-Left: the shadows does not affect the active window shadow color what is blue. There should be somewhere a special setting to disable the active blue shadow and set it to follow the normal shadow color, what I always set to black (not a gray as default). |
| 18:09.09 | Half-Left | Fri13: it's in the colour settings under active window |
| 18:09.14 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Don't worry about it - I've already discussed the matter with Peter. The "flamewar" is started by Martin putting words into his mouth. |
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| 18:09.45 | tuxick | Kwirte: cmake package FindKDevPlatform.cmake was not found. The package KDevPlatform is needed to compile all part of this program. |
| 18:09.50 | tuxick | that's a different error :) |
| 18:10.42 | tuxick | oh never mind that one |
| 18:10.51 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Would you prefer that clicking anywhere in the file column selects the file, or anywhere in the entire row (including Date, etc columns)? |
| 18:11.09 | Fri13 | Half-Left: System Settings > Appearance > Colors > Colors (tab) > Common Colors ? |
| 18:11.29 | tuxick | but no, i was getting different errors |
| 18:11.32 | tuxick | gave up |
| 18:11.43 | Kwirte | tuxick, KDevPlatform? |
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| 18:11.49 | thrice` | annma: d'oh; it built ok with plain make |
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| 18:12.20 | Fri13 | Half-Left: Okay, got. Bretty strange place to have that option when it is usable only when 3D shadows enabled. |
| 18:12.28 | Half-Left | Fri13: Colours>Active titlebar |
| 18:12.43 | Half-Left | Fri13: Tell me about it |
| 18:12.46 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: well, anywhere in the row that has not a different meaning would be propably best ... i guess ... let me test my behaviour in a old konqueror ... |
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| 18:13.01 | Kwirte | tuxick, I already have cmake. |
| 18:13.08 | tuxick | yeh nevermind that i said :) |
| 18:13.09 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: In KDE3, it was the entire row. |
| 18:13.14 | Fri13 | Half-Left: the colors panel should be redesigned, I am always lost there |
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| 18:13.33 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: yep, and together with shift / ctrl and mousewheel you are damn quick doing things that way |
| 18:13.42 | tuxick | Kwirte: i do remembre i too got pykde4 problems with sip* |
| 18:14.10 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: and not having to klick on a text you want to read is good also, since it's not easy to read letters that are covered by the mouse pointer :) |
| 18:14.19 | Half-Left | Fri13: Yer it's a bit wild in there |
| 18:14.44 | Fri13 | Half-Left: and even when the titlebar does seem to effect to the titlebar itself... shadow and titlebar. Those really should be irrelevant to each other :-D |
| 18:15.16 | Kwirte | tuxick, Ok, sip is a startingpoint. Thanx! |
| 18:15.18 | Fri13 | Half-Left: hopefully someone get nice idea how to do the colors place more like where you just select the area what you want to change and then the color. |
| 18:15.25 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Yep, makes sense. Unfortunately, it's too late for 4.2 now, and I'm not sure if it's a candidate for backporting as it is an extra config option (I'll also have to add "Esc deselects all items" so that easy "Deselect All" is possible) :/ |
| 18:15.26 | jacekowski | how to change week start day to monday? |
| 18:16.13 | Fri13 | Half-Left: more like interactive, you got cross and you click the area, while application reconize the part and works on the background. |
| 18:16.13 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: it's hard for me to tell what of the things i miss are because i'm used to them and what i miss because they actually were "better" |
| 18:16.29 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: Indeed, it is difficult. |
| 18:16.56 | Half-Left | Fri13: Bug report and and add it to as a wishlist :) |
| 18:17.10 | SSJ_GZ | Personally, though I used KDE3 for years, I have a slight preference for the current way. |
| 18:17.17 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: where "better" of course depends on the point of view ... my view is daily usage and using shortcuts and everything ... |
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| 18:19.28 | Worf | SSJ_GZ: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171895 is the other thing i miss like hell :) |
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| 18:22.35 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: I suspect that wouldn't be too hard to fix. |
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| 18:23.35 | SSJ_GZ | Worf: One regression that I really hated was similar: when you have the drop-down box in KDE3, you can use the cursor keys to move left and right, and type. This was broken in KDE4 for a while, and I really missed it. |
| 18:23.42 | SSJ_GZ | I never did find out who fixed it :) |
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| 18:26.35 | YippMN | i'm trying to install kdenlive, running gentoo , but it seems to want to pull in a couple kde 4.1 deps will this ba bad? |
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| 18:29.00 | YippMN | hmmmmm |
| 18:29.02 | Half-Left | YippMN: it's a KDE4 app thats why :p |
| 18:29.27 | Half-Left | I would have thought the name would have gave it away |
| 18:29.42 | YippMN | Half-Left, well i installed it a month ago and didn't have this problem , hmm so i can't use it untill i upgrade to say kde 4.2? |
| 18:30.09 | Half-Left | Should work with 4.1 |
| 18:30.23 | YippMN | and how would the name give it away it's allways been kdenlive |
| 18:30.43 | Half-Left | Yer, they made it for KDE4 |
| 18:30.58 | YippMN | well but 4.1 isn't that good so i can't use kdenlive with 3.5.10 hmm |
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| 18:31.23 | Half-Left | use a old version for 3 then |
| 18:31.34 | YippMN | they didn't make kdenlive for kde 4 it's been around way before kde 4 was thought of |
| 18:31.44 | Half-Left | They ported it |
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| 18:32.15 | YippMN | arrgg so how do i go about installing the version before kde4 of kdenlive |
| 18:32.44 | Half-Left | Alot of apps now are dropping fither development for KDE and going KDE4.x |
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| 18:32.52 | Half-Left | KDE3* |
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| 18:33.27 | YippMN | hmm yeah i'm starting to see that with a couple other aspps ive tried to reinstall they pull in kde 4.1 deps hmmm |
| 18:34.27 | kdepepo | Leoryk_, the decoration needs the style, so you can only install it fully. |
| 18:34.34 | Half-Left | Because KDE4 offer more for their apps to be more feature full and new tech for better implemetation of their features |
| 18:34.51 | zak_ | zakia: are u an opensuse user? |
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| 18:35.22 | YippMN | yeah wel i'm gonna stay with kde 3.5.10 till 4.2 is out and stable |
| 18:35.37 | Half-Left | You dont have long to wait then :) |
| 18:35.53 | YippMN | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.59 | Half-Left | 27th |
| 18:36.39 | YippMN | but untill then an i et an older version of kdenlive , am i just sutck without a video editing packages till then |
| 18:37.19 | Half-Left | Well just get the last KDE3 release then |
| 18:37.36 | YippMN | yeah trying to find how |
| 18:38.04 | Half-Left | most lightly the version before it |
| 18:38.28 | YippMN | yes i know :) but can't find what it was |
| 18:39.09 | Half-Left | 0.6 |
| 18:39.53 | YippMN | hmm all i see on the site is 0.5 |
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| 18:40.34 | Half-Left | Yer, maybe it was the jump to 0.7 for KDE4 |
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| 18:41.47 | YippMN | yeah looks like it |
| 18:43.59 | kamathln | [OS: Debian GNU/Linux experimental x86_64] [KDE: 4.3.1] Where does the kickoff get it's background color from ? |
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| 18:44.28 | kamathln | .. and how do i set it ? |
| 18:44.35 | KomiaPoika | hi |
| 18:44.43 | Fri13 | KomiaPoika: Hi |
| 18:44.49 | KomiaPoika | how can i install a slide show screen saver in kde4 beta? |
| 18:44.52 | Half-Left | kamathln: You can't in 4.1 it's plasma themed in 4.2 |
| 18:44.59 | KomiaPoika | i have kubuntu8.10 |
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| 18:45.19 | kamathln | Half-Left: thanks .. so I will have to stick with bright themes :-/ |
| 18:45.26 | Half-Left | KomiaPoika: maybe kdeartwork |
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| 18:47.12 | KomiaPoika | Half-Left: thanks |
| 18:47.27 | KomiaPoika | in kde 4.2 beta i can't put up a single picture in the background of kdm, why? |
| 18:47.31 | tuxick | what's the other half anyway? right? |
| 18:48.01 | holli | localtime @ll. does kde support virtual screen resolutions bigger than the physical screen (like kwm and all the older screen managers?) |
| 18:48.12 | kamathln | tuxick: it can also be "eaten" |
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| 18:49.21 | ]Kame2[ | kamathln: Half-Left: if i set a dark color theme, kickoff is also dark |
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| 18:49.45 | kamathln | ]Kame2[: 4.1 or 4.2 |
| 18:49.50 | ]Kame2[ | 4.1 |
| 18:49.56 | kamathln | ]Kame2[: oh |
| 18:50.16 | kamathln | so i have to search for the right "background" eh? |
| 18:50.27 | YippMN | Half-Left, hmm tried to get kdenlive 0.5 in gentoo but it says now ebuilds for that hmm , would they have otten rid of ver 0.5? |
| 18:50.41 | ]Kame2[ | yes |
| 18:50.50 | YippMN | Half-Left, i have ver 0.5 installed but it doesn't load any thing i can do to make it work? |
| 18:51.33 | kamathln | ]Kame2[: searching |
| 18:51.52 | ]Kame2[ | i would say its the window background |
| 18:52.17 | Half-Left | YippMN: No idea, I've never used it |
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| 18:53.38 | ]Kame2[ | kamathln: alternativ background |
| 18:53.50 | ]Kame2[ | and window background |
| 18:54.01 | ]Kame2[ | and default background ^^ |
| 18:54.09 | kamathln | i already changed the window background |
| 18:54.14 | kamathln | checkign for alternative |
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| 18:54.55 | ]Kame2[ | window background are the borders in kickoff |
| 18:55.09 | ]Kame2[ | alternative is the top and bottom bar |
| 18:55.16 | kamathln | ]Kame2[: yeah! got it .. thanks .. |
| 18:55.22 | ]Kame2[ | np |
| 18:55.30 | kamathln | looks like I had forgotten to click on "apply" |
| 18:55.43 | kamathln | coz i remember changing alternate background |
| 18:56.03 | kamathln | wishes for an "auto-apply" checkbox |
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| 19:00.06 | Half-Left | compiled Amarok 2.0.1 |
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| 19:08.39 | the_p | hello. i have a question to kde 4.1.3. When i mount a usb storage device in dolphin it gets unmounted automatically after some time is this an intended behaviour or a bug? |
| 19:09.26 | Dolo | I was reading some stuff online about windows and ram the other day , the article said that with 32 bit arcitecture you cant utalize more than 3 gigs of ram. My question was , is this a limitation of windows on 32 bit hardware or will any os be limited to 3 gigs when running a 32 bit processor? |
| 19:10.23 | Half-Left | Dolo: 32bit systems can run more than 4Gb of ram with PAE kernel, not that this is KDE related |
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| 19:11.00 | Dolo | well im running kde |
| 19:11.03 | Dolo | linux |
| 19:11.35 | Half-Left | Yer but it's not about KDE, it's about the Linux kernel |
| 19:11.36 | Dolo | well fedora core 9 |
| 19:11.43 | Half-Left | :p |
| 19:11.56 | Dolo | didnt know they are using gnome on fedora these days |
| 19:12.14 | Dolo | gonna see about getting all the old stuff for kde running |
| 19:12.16 | Half-Left | They always have |
| 19:12.32 | Dolo | when i had fedora core last time was i think fedora core 7 |
| 19:12.37 | Dolo | i had everything kde |
| 19:13.03 | Dolo | this time im running fc9 |
| 19:13.12 | Dolo | and its filled with gnome stuff |
| 19:13.27 | Half-Left | As far a I remember Fedora always installed gnoem as default |
| 19:13.34 | Half-Left | gnome* |
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| 19:14.18 | Half-Left | Now they have a KDE cd version |
| 19:14.37 | Dolo | ya i think i dled the wrong one this time around |
| 19:15.04 | Dolo | but i can still change that stuff up with package manager right |
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| 19:16.00 | Half-Left | You'd have to ask them in #fedora |
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| 19:17.16 | cb400f | Dolo: fedora 10 is out anyway |
| 19:17.28 | cb400f | .. might as well get f10 live cd |
| 19:17.39 | cb400f | f9 has kde 4.0.. you do _not_ want that |
| 19:17.43 | Dolo | i know but my friends been griping about 10 having problems |
| 19:18.04 | cb400f | actually.. maybe 4.1 is an online update for f9 |
| 19:18.08 | Half-Left | F10 KDE 4.1 is nice |
| 19:18.41 | Dolo | originally i was gonna install 10 but they were saying that 9 works better there are some new issues with 10 that were so problematic one guy went back to using 9 and sugested i install 9 instead |
| 19:18.52 | zak_ | cb400f: are you on kde4 ? |
| 19:19.08 | cb400f | of course I am |
| 19:19.17 | zak_ | cb400f: my i pv you? |
| 19:19.24 | cb400f | why? |
| 19:19.27 | Half-Left | Dolo: Well depends what the issue is, we dont all have the same hardware |
| 19:20.13 | zak_ | cb400f: ok) no need :) thank you anyway:) |
| 19:22.54 | Dolo | thanks for all your help have a good day |
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| 19:37.41 | brunoqc | kdebase won't install with kdesvn-build http://rafb.net/p/cKiGhh30.html |
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| 19:38.52 | annma | won't install or won't build? |
| 19:38.57 | brunoqc | install |
| 19:39.04 | annma | ah python |
| 19:39.14 | annma | there's a techbase doc about it, read it |
| 19:39.37 | brunoqc | ok, thanks ! |
| 19:40.53 | tuxick | pykde again |
| 19:41.39 | annma | again? |
| 19:42.51 | annma | tuxick: ? |
| 19:44.14 | tuxick | annma: i ended up disabling python for plasma, to get stuff built |
| 19:44.14 | reavertm | looks rather like plasma python bindings (not whole pykde from kdebindings) |
| 19:44.15 | tuxick | it's a known problem on gentoo |
| 19:44.20 | annma | tuxick: it's not a problem |
| 19:44.30 | reavertm | tuxick: actually.. I build if fine... |
| 19:44.39 | tuxick | maybe it's been fixed |
| 19:44.45 | annma | it's all explained on techbase page, you build manually, you have to do some stuff |
| 19:44.57 | annma | distros will all install as root anyway, no? |
| 19:45.26 | tuxick | suppose so |
| 19:45.40 | reavertm | sort of, user with proper write access anyway (though install proces is controlled by sanbox) |
| 19:46.35 | annma | so if you build and install in a user dir, just also install python here |
| 19:46.39 | annma | especially Gentoo |
| 19:46.43 | annma | as you build anyway |
| 19:46.44 | farhad_hf | i'm having problems with pykde too, i have an error about not finding qhostinfo.h , but i have installed qt-copy :P |
| 19:47.09 | annma | farhad_hf: pastebin your error, make being done as make VERBOSE=1 |
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| 19:47.39 | DarkSmoke | hey |
| 19:47.42 | annma | farhad_hf: are you talking about kdebindings? |
| 19:47.51 | DarkSmoke | somebody is getting graphics glitches on kde4.2 beta 2? |
| 19:47.54 | farhad_hf | annma, yes |
| 19:47.58 | reavertm | if building in user dir - gentoo has nothing to do with it then - but it may indeed want to install those python modules in system managed python dir, and this requires root access of course |
| 19:48.05 | annma | ah |
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| 19:48.11 | clou | hi |
| 19:48.21 | clou | i use kde3 and konqueror as file manager |
| 19:48.30 | annma | reavertm: I mean like me I use a distro, OK? I built python instad of using the distro one |
| 19:48.41 | annma | versus YOU always build |
| 19:48.45 | clou | when i browse through images and click on them, konqueror opens them |
| 19:48.45 | annma | I had more work |
| 19:48.48 | annma | you don't |
| 19:49.01 | reavertm | then your're probably already have access to it's dirs |
| 19:49.04 | clou | what can i do that always gwenview opens images when i click on them and not the intern konqueror viewer? |
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| 19:50.07 | annma | farhad_hf: kdebindings is a bitch to build, we talked about kdebase before |
| 19:50.27 | DarkSmoke | somebody is getting graphics glitches on kde4.2 beta 2? |
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| 19:51.43 | reavertm | DarkSmoke: glitches is waht makes life interesting |
| 19:51.54 | reavertm | there are some, related to qt transparency |
| 19:52.29 | farhad_hf | annma, :)) |
| 19:52.32 | reavertm | annma: what techbase python page you're thinking about? (a'ka additional steps to build kde with python) |
| 19:52.53 | annma | what "traditional" |
| 19:53.01 | annma | additional |
| 19:53.06 | DarkSmoke | reavertm: but , i don't use Desktop effects of kde, i use compiz fusion |
| 19:53.25 | reavertm | DarkSmoke: doesn't matter, you still use qt |
| 19:53.39 | DarkSmoke | ah, i see. |
| 19:53.45 | reavertm | annma: additional, that's what I said :) |
| 19:54.58 | reavertm | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Python_Support ? |
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| 19:55.43 | clou | in the kde3 version |
| 19:55.44 | annma | yes, see, you found it |
| 19:55.57 | clou | is konqueror or dolphin faster as file browser? |
| 19:56.01 | farhad_hf | annma, i cant install it with cmakekde , i used this command : "python configure.py && make" , cmakekde's output : http://pastebin.com/m3c9b4bff and make's output : http://pastebin.com/m44cb503f |
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| 19:56.40 | annma | you need to run cmake at kdebindings top I think farhad_hf |
| 19:56.46 | reavertm | why don't you encourage to use distro sip/python - less work, possibly less problems |
| 19:57.09 | annma | why? because then you need to install as root |
| 19:57.15 | annma | it's not discouraged |
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| 19:57.45 | annma | did you look at the error brunoqc pasted? |
| 19:58.18 | brunoqc | http://rafb.net/p/cKiGhh30.html |
| 19:58.34 | farhad_hf | annma, me? |
| 19:58.40 | annma | no, reavertm |
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| 19:59.38 | reavertm | looks like trying to install not existing python module - maybe some module was not generated as some plasma/workspace feature is not present on that system - dunno |
| 19:59.39 | annma | farhad_hf: what's your sip version? |
| 19:59.50 | annma | reavertm: not at all |
| 20:00.09 | annma | it's installing python stuff in python install dir as it's done that way |
| 20:00.22 | farhad_hf | annma, sip-4.7.9 |
| 20:00.24 | annma | if you use distro python you need to beroot |
| 20:00.38 | reavertm | ah, right, permissions problem |
| 20:00.50 | annma | farhad_hf: yes, that's OK |
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| 20:01.09 | brunoqc | chown me /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/ , did make kdebase install |
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| 20:01.54 | annma | do you plan to develop in python brunoqc |
| 20:02.29 | annma | persoanlly I don't bother with python, I just bothered once when I had to repair Marble python build |
| 20:02.49 | annma | it's optional and for people interested in develing with it |
| 20:03.08 | reavertm | annma: yeah, so what do you say about system-config-printer-kde |
| 20:03.13 | brunoqc | annma: yes |
| 20:03.47 | annma | I don't develop it reavertm |
| 20:04.01 | annma | when it was in kdereview, I tested it and send my comments to the devel |
| 20:04.04 | reavertm | i know, I just mean it's barely optional in fact |
| 20:04.07 | annma | as a good devel that I am |
| 20:04.18 | annma | in fact I was quite alone in testing it |
| 20:04.46 | annma | brunoqc: if you plan to develop in python you should follow the techbase page |
| 20:04.58 | reavertm | I mean, system-config-printer-kde is python app (thus bringing pretty heavy geps) and in fact pulling gtk as well |
| 20:05.06 | reavertm | s/geps/deps/ |
| 20:05.23 | annma | you're babbling reavertm |
| 20:05.33 | reavertm | is really missing kprinter |
| 20:05.37 | annma | code it |
| 20:05.48 | brunoqc | annma: ok, thank you |
| 20:06.11 | annma | brunoqc: did you get the link? |
| 20:06.31 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Python_Support |
| 20:07.12 | brunoqc | annma: yes, ty |
| 20:08.21 | reavertm | we're really considering whether to ship it with 4.2 in gentoo |
| 20:08.46 | annma | other distros have their own utilities peobably for printer |
| 20:09.06 | reavertm | yeah, and we usually lack in developing own configurators |
| 20:09.34 | annma | personally I don't think it's KDE job to do printer support but distro job |
| 20:09.45 | Half-Left | reavertm: well gnome uses python and so will plasma applets so it should be a non issue |
| 20:11.24 | reavertm | Half-Left: yes, but system-config-printer requires pygtk and thus - for kde purists it's unacceptable :) if system-config-printer UI was extracted from 'logic' then I would be fine with system-config-printer-kde being in python |
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| 20:11.52 | reavertm | as pygtk dep could go away |
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| 20:12.37 | reavertm | you should hear laments after glib event loop integration in Qt4, just imagine this ;) |
| 20:12.56 | annma | purists are freaks |
| 20:13.07 | Half-Left | I dont know about your packaging problems, but it's not like Distros dont make their own life easy and package stuff you dont need |
| 20:13.08 | annma | purist rhymes with extremist |
| 20:13.18 | reavertm | on the other hand why need gtk in kde4/ |
| 20:13.28 | wekt | How do you tell what the true name of a font alias is? |
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| 20:13.47 | annma | who cares people use gtk apps |
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| 20:14.35 | Half-Left | You need gtk for some apps anyway, nvidia settings or to fill a gap |
| 20:14.52 | Half-Left | well thats not a app but you know what I mean |
| 20:15.14 | buntfalke | hi |
| 20:16.08 | buntfalke | Which is the KDE-users application of choice for searching inside multiple PDFs (maybe other files, too) at once? |
| 20:16.16 | buntfalke | beagle / strigi? |
| 20:16.45 | Half-Left | reavertm: Yer, well people think glib is a GNOME dep so I've heard it all :p |
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| 20:18.20 | Half-Left | reavertm: Erm that was meant to be GNOME lib |
| 20:18.34 | reavertm | Half-Left: well, gentoo (apart from required python) tries hard not to pull too much |
| 20:19.08 | farhad_hf | annma, thanks :) |
| 20:19.13 | annma | a normal distro insatlls in a few Mb |
| 20:19.14 | farhad_hf | bye all |
| 20:19.52 | reavertm | annma: you probably ment 'minutes' ;) |
| 20:20.41 | Half-Left | reavertm: Yer that depends on functionallity you want, not eveyone wants printing and it's even optional, and if you dont want CUPS you dont need to pull it down |
| 20:25.06 | wekt | seems to be /etc/fonts/conf.d |
| 20:25.06 | reavertm | btw, what's the status (or how to use it) of kgamma? I see kcm module installed but cannot find it anywhere |
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| 20:26.14 | reavertm | wekt: that's fontconfig file, fc-list should do the job of displaying font aliases |
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| 20:26.33 | reavertm | (or any other binary from fontconfig package) |
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| 20:27.54 | Half-Left | reavertm: KRandRtray has it |
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| 20:29.09 | wekt | reavertm: thanks, but that only seems to have style notes as far as i can see |
| 20:29.40 | reavertm | Half-Left: indeed, why it's not docked in systemsettings as well? (in 'Display' tab) |
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| 20:30.17 | Half-Left | No idea |
| 20:30.31 | reavertm | I would never find it.. |
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| 20:31.03 | reavertm | maybe I should file a bug |
| 20:31.14 | Half-Left | Yep |
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| 20:33.16 | Kethal | How can I find the documentation for dcop actions that a program can perform? I'm trying to play a sound using knotify and I can't figure out what I need for "preset" |
| 20:34.25 | annma | run the prog and run kdcop |
| 20:34.35 | annma | or dcop in terminal iirc |
| 20:35.04 | Kethal | That gives me the commands, but it doesn't define the parameters. |
| 20:35.11 | derek_k | Kethal: follow what it returns |
| 20:35.29 | derek_k | Kethal: as you go further down it will show you the parameters |
| 20:35.33 | Kethal | I have this function. void notify(QString event,QString fromApp,QString text,QString sound,QString file,int present,int level) |
| 20:35.38 | Kethal | I don't know what to put for present. |
| 20:36.00 | reavertm | We used to make jokes, that daily svn up on KDE/ is nearly like whole gnome release feaure-wise - it may not be far from true... |
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| 20:37.20 | Half-Left | Yer because KDE has more of a desktop to use :p |
| 20:38.44 | reavertm | I wonder whether qscript Qt bindings are going to be moved from amarok to separate package... |
| 20:39.28 | SSJ_GZ | reavertm: I should hope so eventually - the Plasma team want them, for example. |
| 20:39.31 | reavertm | I hate rebuilding it over and over again |
| 20:39.41 | derek_k | Kethal: search for the knotify api, it should tell you what you need to know. |
| 20:40.19 | holli | localtime @ll. does kde support virtual screen resolutions bigger than the physical screen (like kwm and all the older screen managers?) |
| 20:40.24 | holli | ? |
| 20:40.56 | reavertm | they should go to kdebindings - it should be possible for qtscript code generator to create KDE bindings as well |
| 20:41.58 | buntfalke | i just installed strigi, and after clicking around in "strigi:/" in konqueror for a while i cannot access it anymore |
| 20:42.25 | buntfalke | the last thing i clicked was "stop daemon", it hang, so i killed it, and restarted it with strigiclient. |
| 20:42.28 | buntfalke | suggestions? |
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| 20:44.16 | buntfalke | (when i enter it in the konqueror adressbar now, it's searched at google) |
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| 20:45.00 | buntfalke | and disabling that results in "Protocol unsupporte: strigi" |
| 20:45.16 | tictric | buntfalke: I can not say that I'm a strigi expert but I think it's not overstated when I say it does not work so well yet |
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| 20:46.00 | tictric | I would disable it for the present |
| 20:46.02 | buntfalke | tictric: i'm aware of that, especially as i still use 3.5.10, but i need it's functions, so... |
| 20:46.41 | buntfalke | I just installed it on purpose, i wont disable it now ;-) |
| 20:46.41 | tictric | buntfalke: maybe you want to work with Beagle until Strigi is really usable |
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| 20:47.50 | tictric | Beagle works reliable as far as I can tell and I'm using it but like you I'm impatiently waiting for strigi to just work |
| 20:48.07 | Half-Left | 4.2 has strigi search from krunner |
| 20:48.35 | Half-Left | tictric: If you like gnome deps and mono deps yer sure |
| 20:48.37 | buntfalke | I wont use it, because I dislike mono and once 4.2 is released i will switch anyway... |
| 20:48.41 | tictric | Half-Left: didn't dare to try yet |
| 20:48.47 | buntfalke | Half-Left: fullack |
| 20:48.48 | Half-Left | dare? |
| 20:49.05 | Half-Left | It's in release mode |
| 20:49.21 | tictric | Half-Left: I already had _problems_ after enabling strigi in systemsettings in 4.1.x |
| 20:49.42 | Half-Left | tictric: yer in 4.1 it's not fully implemented |
| 20:50.22 | Half-Left | Krunner can find files and tags now via nepomuk |
| 20:50.23 | tictric | I still run 4.2 only as kde-devel and there strigi is not that important to me :) |
| 20:50.51 | tictric | but I'll gladly switch |
| 20:51.36 | buntfalke | Half-Left: How would you use strigi on 3.5.10? strigi:/ in konqi? |
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| 20:52.38 | Half-Left | buntfalke: no idea not used it in KDE3.5.x |
| 20:52.44 | tictric | is going to run a full 4.2 session and activate strigi and look at htop |
| 20:53.11 | Half-Left | it activated by default anyway :p |
| 20:53.41 | gr1m-lap | what are you looking for in htop? |
| 20:54.45 | gr1m-lap | indexer behavior is pretty easy to predict. low priority process eating as many resources as it can when indexing, spikes during searches, and idle any other time. |
| 20:55.20 | tictric | it rendered my system unusable and I have 3gig ram |
| 20:55.35 | tictric | last time I knowingly activated it |
| 20:55.49 | gr1m-lap | the indexing can sometimes be a pain as linux to this day still manages to spin lock far too much when doing i/o |
| 20:56.29 | Half-Left | tictric: yes thats because a number of reasons in KDE4.1 anyway |
| 20:57.16 | Half-Left | it's just ALOT better in 4.2 |
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| 20:58.04 | gr1m-lap | 4.2 looks exciting |
| 20:58.24 | gr1m-lap | I tried the first alpha on a test machine w/ an ati r300 |
| 20:58.28 | gr1m-lap | ran extremely wel |
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| 20:59.07 | gr1m-lap | and I found a guy at work w/ a laptop identical to mine except he has intel graphics while I have nvidia. He said he'd trade me :) just swap hard drives and voila |
| 20:59.17 | gr1m-lap | <- happy :D |
| 20:59.45 | gr1m-lap | proper xinerama and xrandr support here I come |
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| 21:00.46 | tictric | Half-Left: Nepomuk::StrigiService::StrigiService: Will not start when using redland Soprano backend due to horrible performance |
| 21:01.33 | Half-Left | Yer, seasame is much better |
| 21:01.50 | tictric | * looking |
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| 21:02.05 | Half-Left | tictric: http://imagebin.ca/view/WF8otjvK.html |
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| 21:08.00 | tictric | hm, don't know much about sesame and can't find packages |
| 21:08.03 | Half-Left | It's just finshed indexing and I only turned it on a bout 5 minutes ago |
| 21:08.27 | tictric | where is it in trunk? |
| 21:08.43 | Half-Left | 4.2RC1 |
| 21:08.55 | Half-Left | 4.2 branches |
| 21:09.09 | tictric | ah, soprano backends |
| 21:09.51 | tuxick | those are huge! |
| 21:10.08 | tictric | so I've got it installed anyway. Do I need to disable redland separately then |
| 21:10.32 | Half-Left | nope |
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| 21:11.00 | Half-Left | Well you can just uninstall it, sesame2 uses java |
| 21:11.15 | tictric | that's what I'm doing right now |
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| 21:11.55 | Half-Left | Your using 4.2 branch? |
| 21:12.04 | tictric | trunk |
| 21:12.41 | Half-Left | Wont be using that for a while myself |
| 21:15.06 | schafi | how can I hide this ugly nut in the upper right corner? |
| 21:16.38 | Half-Left | schafi: You can't, you can move it in 4.2 but you stuck with it :p |
| 21:17.31 | schafi | Half-Left: ah I just moved it behind my taskbar :-) |
| 21:17.33 | brunoqc | I have 4.2 beta 2 but I don't have sesame, will I get it if I use trunk ? |
| 21:18.07 | Half-Left | seasame needs java so you need your java path set |
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| 21:18.53 | brunoqc | Half-Left: before running kdesvn-build? |
| 21:19.48 | Half-Left | before building kdesupport have java set |
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| 21:20.44 | Half-Left | schafi: I guess thats one way :) |
| 21:21.17 | Half-Left | But you lose functionally so |
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| 21:22.34 | schafi | Half-Left: no. when I want to install new plasmoids I just unlock my taskbar and get that nut there again ^^ |
| 21:23.34 | brunoqc | Half-Left: is setting java path the same as adding java to $PATH ? like PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/bin |
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| 21:24.23 | Half-Left | brunoqc: Adding/setting yep |
| 21:24.47 | brunoqc | Half-Left: thanks! |
| 21:26.07 | Half-Left | np |
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| 21:32.30 | gnumdk | Hello |
| 21:32.41 | jacobw-uk | hi there, has an oxygen icon package for openoffice been made yet? |
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| 21:32.55 | gnumdk | Is there a way in kde 4.2 to disable plasma progress files dialogs and revert back to old style? |
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| 21:33.07 | gnumdk | jacobw-uk: no |
| 21:33.36 | jacobw-uk | ok |
| 21:34.41 | SSJ_GZ | gnumdk: http://pindablog.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/about-bugs-notifications-and-clean-blend/ |
| 21:34.53 | SSJ_GZ | (the ShowJobs=false bit) |
| 21:36.33 | gnumdk | SSJ_GZ: Thanx a lot |
| 21:36.37 | SSJ_GZ | np |
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| 21:44.13 | ScottG489 | Hey, I've been using gde for a while but I just installed kde to try it out. All the text is way too large though. Could someone help? |
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| 21:49.33 | brunoqc | ScottG489: you can forge the size of fonts in "system configuration" |
| 21:49.40 | brunoqc | force* |
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| 21:49.51 | snowdonkey | Hi. Can someone tell me how to find a window's ID? |
| 21:50.13 | P-Luc_Auclair | hey guys, great work on 4.2 ! it's getting really good :) |
| 21:50.19 | pinotree | snowdonkey: xprop? |
| 21:51.07 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: Where is "System configuration"? |
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| 21:52.57 | brunoqc | ScottG489: my system is not set in english, if you do ALT+F2 and type config, it will be one of the results |
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| 21:53.46 | brunoqc | the one with the screwdriver |
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| 21:54.07 | mplabs | Hi guys |
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| 21:56.17 | mplabs | I'm trying to change my theme in dekorator. But it never added to the box list to select the theme... |
| 21:56.19 | mplabs | any idea ? |
| 21:57.46 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: yea its the one with with screw driver and wrench right? |
| 21:57.56 | brunoqc | ScottG489: yes |
| 21:59.12 | junkDawgie | in kmenu it's listed as "Personal Settings", ScottG489 or you can type "systemsettings" from cli |
| 21:59.36 | ScottG489 | junkDawgie: cli? |
| 22:00.06 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: and im in the menu but im not sure which one to choose. ive looked around a few with no mention of dpi or anything like that |
| 22:00.10 | junkDawgie | konsole... command prompt... command line interface |
| 22:00.47 | brunoqc | ScottG489: on my system it's called "apparence", then fonts |
| 22:01.06 | brunoqc | ScottG489: the icon is a window splitted diagonaly |
| 22:02.01 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: So I want to force the font dpi? |
| 22:02.40 | brunoqc | ScottG489: that's what I do, I use 96 bpp |
| 22:04.13 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: yea me too. everything is still quite large |
| 22:04.37 | tictric | nice, strigi is running now :) |
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| 22:05.23 | brunoqc | ScottG489: I think it only work with the new app you'll open |
| 22:05.30 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: actually i take that back. it does seem to be working now. I just need to restart applications. Im going to try to restart KDE as well. brb |
| 22:05.52 | mplabs | I'm trying to change my theme in dekorator. But it never added to the box list to select the theme... |
| 22:05.54 | mplabs | any idea ? |
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| 22:08.00 | ScottG489 | hello? |
| 22:08.29 | brunoqc | hi |
| 22:09.49 | ScottG489 | ok i was in kde. wasnt sure if i was in kubuntu talkign to you lol |
| 22:10.01 | ScottG489 | everythings a lot better now :) |
| 22:10.10 | brunoqc | nice :) |
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| 22:12.38 | ScottG489 | not sure if i like the menu in kde though. maybe i just need to break it in |
| 22:14.39 | brunoqc | ScottG489: you could try lancelot if it's available when you right click on the taskbar and do "add plasmoid" |
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| 22:16.02 | ScottG489 | brunoqc: Whats lacelot? And how do I change the time to not being 24/7? |
| 22:17.47 | brunoqc | ScottG489: lancelot is an alternative menu for KDE, many people prefer it to the default menu |
| 22:18.47 | ScottG489 | hm, well I do want to give this a try. ill check it out though thanks |
| 22:19.14 | brunoqc | ScottG489: http://lancelot.fomentgroup.org/main |
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| 22:21.40 | brunoqc | ScottG489: to change the time format, it's in the regional setting's thing in the system settings |
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| 22:27.32 | ScottG489 | Ok, well ill be back :) |
| 22:28.43 | brunoqc | ScottG489: ok :) |
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| 22:30.46 | Kethal | If I use dcop to have knotify pop up a message box, it blocks futher requests to knotify until I hit "OK" on the box. Is there a way to have it not block? |
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| 22:34.12 | thiago_home | use a passive one |
| 22:34.22 | thiago_home | why don't you use kdialog? |
| 22:34.44 | Kethal | A passive one will dissappear, and I didn't use kdialog because I didn't know about it. |
| 22:34.57 | Kethal | But now I do, and I will ;) Thanks |
| 22:36.28 | Kethal | Well hey, that only took an hour ;) I don't know if it was even worth it. |
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| 22:39.53 | linux-hdtv | Hi, how can i replace all specified text strings in all files of a directory and subdirectories ? |
| 22:40.05 | tuxick | ? |
| 22:40.17 | thiago_home | linux-hdtv: not a KDE question |
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| 23:04.14 | P-Luc_Auclair | how can I restart plasma without restarting kde? |
| 23:04.30 | thiago_home | kquitapp plasma |
| 23:04.31 | thiago_home | plasma |
| 23:04.40 | P-Luc_Auclair | ok |
| 23:05.09 | P-Luc_Auclair | super! thanks |
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| 23:19.27 | Kethal | doesn't 11.1 come with 4.2? |
| 23:19.58 | hamster | Oh, sorry. It seemed to say 4.1 on the box. |
| 23:19.59 | Kethal | There's a box that lets you change the compositing type, try the other option. |
| 23:20.24 | Kethal | It's the first button on the top, says advanced or more options I think. |
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| 23:23.44 | hamster | Hi, it's me again. Sorry, got kicked out of X. |
| 23:23.58 | hamster | What other solutions might there be, other than re-compiling the driver? |
| 23:25.10 | hamster | Googling doesn't give much of an insight. |
| 23:25.18 | hamster | Maybe that has to do with me running fglrx? |
| 23:26.53 | P-Luc_Auclair | how can I delete a plasmoid from the list? |
| 23:27.53 | thiago_home | which list? |
| 23:28.35 | P-Luc_Auclair | from the Add plasmoids |
| 23:28.53 | P-Luc_Auclair | I added a google gadget and I try to uninstall it |
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| 23:31.12 | hamster | Oh, what's the shortcut for application launcher in KDE4? |
| 23:31.26 | thiago_home | Alt+F1 |
| 23:31.29 | thiago_home | the same as in KDE 3 |
| 23:31.31 | hamster | Thanks. |
| 23:31.34 | thiago_home | which was the same as in KDE 2 |
| 23:32.22 | Half-Left | Alt, F2 for krunner |
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| 23:37.32 | ScottG489 | What does the K in KDE stand for anyways? |
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| 23:39.12 | aoeuk | I activated compiz without prior activating xgl on my KDE4.1/openSuSE 11.1 and now all I have is a white screen. |
| 23:39.16 | aoeuk | Is there any way to fix this? |
| 23:40.13 | Kethal | ScottG489: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE |
| 23:40.16 | thiago_home | no clue, we don't use compiz |
| 23:40.19 | thiago_home | please ask #opensuse |
| 23:40.19 | cb400f | autonomy: xgl is not supposed to be used for anything anymore.. and compiz is offtopic here |
| 23:40.31 | cb400f | aoeuk: |
| 23:40.35 | autonomy | ba? |
| 23:40.38 | cb400f | sorry |
| 23:40.39 | aoeuk | Sorry. |
| 23:40.42 | autonomy | hehe. |
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| 23:44.14 | IrishW0lf_afk | is away: Gone away for now |
| 23:44.21 | thiago_home | IrishW0lf_afk: we didn't need to know |
| 23:44.27 | thiago_home | IrishW0lf_afk: please turn the notice off |
| 23:45.49 | aoeuk | How do I null all "Desktop Effects" settings in KDE4 to their default values from KDE3 or Gnome? |
| 23:45.55 | aoeuk | Or init 3? |
| 23:46.07 | thiago_home | there were no desktop effects in KDE 3 |
| 23:46.12 | thiago_home | so, just disable it |
| 23:46.21 | thiago_home | Alt+F3, Configure Window Behaviour |
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| 23:48.18 | ScottG489 | thiago_home: what do you mean "we dont use compiz" ? |
| 23:48.38 | thiago_home | we, in #kde, don't use compiz |
| 23:51.25 | brunoqc | I just installed kde-svn with kdesvn-build, and if I try to open Firefox, I get "Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries", what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 23:52.27 | thrice` | hi all; i'm having difficulty building kdesdk: http://rafb.net/p/6AcEDO80.html |
| 23:52.48 | thrice` | any clues? using boost 1.37 |
| 23:53.01 | thiago_home | brunoqc: you have more than one Qt |
| 23:53.04 | thiago_home | remove all but one |
| 23:53.42 | brunoqc | thiago_home: is qt-copy the one I should keep? |
| 23:54.06 | thiago_home | doesn't matter |
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| 23:54.50 | brunoqc | thiago_home: ok, thanks |
| 23:57.36 | ScottG489 | Kethal: so basically nothing.lol |
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| 23:58.51 | pinotree | thrice`: umbrello does not support boost 1.37 yet (bug already reported) |
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| 23:59.21 | thrice` | pinotree: argh; so ... ? |
| 23:59.38 | thiago_home | thrice`: remove boost |
| 23:59.38 | thrice` | if I downgrade boost, that would mean other items recompiling ? |
| 23:59.41 | thiago_home | or downgrade it |
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