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| 00:17.58 | d-snp | hey |
| 00:18.21 | d-snp | does kde use gnome-vfs, or does it have its own system? cause it seems to have stopped working for my (g)mplayer |
| 00:18.37 | MinceR | it has its own system, kio |
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| 00:19.20 | d-snp | when I try to watch a movie from konqueror over samba, it first has to download it and then it plays |
| 00:19.37 | d-snp | up to a few weeks ago, it would always just stream it |
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| 00:20.45 | hahafaha | can someone help me with setting shortcuts for an app? "Input Actions" in systemsettings is crashing :-( |
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| 00:38.42 | N9NU | anyone have a problem with splash themes, etc, not showing up in the menu when they are added via the inet automatically? |
| 00:40.10 | maazu | they have such features? a different splash theme a day? |
| 00:40.34 | N9NU | lol |
| 00:40.40 | N9NU | in systemsettings |
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| 00:41.00 | maazu | oh |
| 00:41.00 | N9NU | at least for my distro they have an option to download them directly from kde-look |
| 00:41.17 | N9NU | same with Icons, etc. |
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| 00:42.36 | Rasi | for kdm it will of course only work if you start systemsettings as root |
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| 01:37.08 | stoned | hi |
| 01:37.10 | stoned | eat food |
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| 01:39.01 | c-101 | Hi there |
| 01:40.59 | c-101 | do any of you use the "news" plasmoid in kde trunk? |
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| 01:56.40 | shepherd | I'm trying to compile kde-network, it says "Could not find REQUIRED package Blitz" .. so I yum install blitz-devel |
| 01:56.43 | shepherd | and it still doesn't work, any idea? |
| 01:57.43 | c-101 | check Cmake files to see which tests failed |
| 01:58.15 | shepherd | ok.. |
| 02:04.18 | shepherd | I don't really understand.. |
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| 02:06.03 | c-101 | cmake writes a log with the unit test it has done to see if a package is present in the system |
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| 02:10.12 | kdepepo | shepherd, install "libqimageblitz-devel" |
| 02:10.43 | shepherd | oh.. thanks :p |
| 02:10.55 | kdepepo | (assuming you are on suse :) |
| 02:10.59 | shepherd | thanks also c-101 |
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| 02:11.21 | shepherd | im on fedora, but there's a package qimageblitz-devel |
| 02:11.40 | kdepepo | that, yes. |
| 02:11.41 | Qrawl | does kgpg work in 4.2 |
| 02:12.01 | Qrawl | I right-click a file to encrypt, but after choosing my key, get an error |
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| 02:12.06 | c-101 | it works for me |
| 02:12.48 | Qrawl | do you right-click in Dolphin and choose encrypt, then choose your key |
| 02:12.57 | c-101 | yes |
| 02:13.31 | Qrawl | [GNUPG:] INV_RECP 0 399DD0FE: Qrawl |
| 02:15.29 | stoned | hey whats up |
| 02:15.31 | stoned | guys |
| 02:19.18 | Qrawl | doesnt work for me |
| 02:19.40 | Qrawl | where do I look for bugs |
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| 02:20.45 | c-101 | bugs.kde.org |
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| 02:47.19 | flabr | hi there...has anyone succeded in installin liquid weather on KDE4.1? |
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| 03:02.17 | hahafaha | I have an odd problem -- in systemconfig, the "keyboard" is missing from "keyboard & mouse" |
| 03:02.26 | hahafaha | there is only "mouse" and "keyboard shortcuts" |
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| 03:02.36 | hahafaha | but the part about keyboard repeat and such is missing |
| 03:02.54 | hahafaha | s/systemconfig/systemsettings/ |
| 03:03.02 | hahafaha | (4.1.3 on Arch) |
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| 03:48.23 | mewshi | hi! :) There seems to be a problem with the sticky notes... it won't let me set the colors anymore :( |
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| 04:06.14 | PhReaked | where do i find kwrite settings |
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| 04:06.38 | PhrkOnLsh | ~/.kde4/share/config/kopete* |
| 04:07.39 | PhReaked | do u know the path i lookked all thru konkorer |
| 04:08.35 | PhrkOnLsh | ^^ type that in the address bar, or turn on show hidden files in the view menu. |
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| 04:09.02 | PhReaked | i tried that in a commad prompt |
| 04:09.17 | PhrkOnLsh | ls ~/.kde4/share/config/kopete* |
| 04:11.21 | PhReaked | > ls ~/.kde4/share/config/kopete* |
| 04:11.31 | PhReaked | no such files |
| 04:12.01 | PhrkOnLsh | then ls ~/.kde/share/config/kopete* |
| 04:12.32 | PhReaked | can i use konqueor or do i use a cmd prompt |
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| 04:12.46 | PhrkOnLsh | either |
| 04:12.59 | PhReaked | thanks for being helpful |
| 04:13.06 | PhrkOnLsh | yep |
| 04:13.29 | PhrkOnLsh | You really shouldn't have to be bumping around in config files though --- all those options are available in kwrite. |
| 04:13.36 | PhrkOnLsh | +directly |
| 04:14.02 | PhReaked | yes |
| 04:14.23 | PhReaked | thats all i want to do is stop the duplicate files its annoying |
| 04:14.38 | PhrkOnLsh | did you do what I said in #suse? |
| 04:14.51 | PhrkOnLsh | that should be it. |
| 04:14.55 | PhReaked | cant find that file |
| 04:15.01 | PhrkOnLsh | [21:01] <PhrkOnLsh> kwrite->settings->configure editor->open/save->advanced->uncheck `local files' under backup on save |
| 04:15.08 | PhrkOnLsh | no, no, settings *menu* |
| 04:15.18 | PhrkOnLsh | open kwrite, and goto the menu labelled settings. |
| 04:15.24 | PhrkOnLsh | sr |
| 04:15.26 | PhrkOnLsh | sry** |
| 04:15.36 | PhReaked | ok |
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| 04:18.12 | PhrkOnLsh | irc as root, lol |
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| 04:49.13 | corinth | When I middle click in firefox, it loads something form my clipboard. I can't figure out how to change this setting. Suggestions? |
| 04:49.53 | PhrkOnLsh | corinth: I meant autoident with knovo ^_^ |
| 04:49.55 | PhrkOnLsh | konvo** |
| 04:50.07 | PhrkOnLsh | corinth: enable autoidentify by hitting f8, type 'nickserv' into service, your password into 'password' |
| 04:52.34 | corinth | Thanks PhrkOnLsh. |
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| 05:01.06 | komani | any good docking app for kde? |
| 05:01.24 | komani | in the vein of MAC OSX's |
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| 05:12.31 | PhrkOnLsh | komani: try kxdocker, but it crashes for me. |
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| 05:15.07 | third3ye | Can I setup mousebindings? |
| 05:15.15 | third3ye | Like in Konqueror? |
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| 05:37.46 | komani | PhrkOnLsh, alright |
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| 05:43.12 | PhrkOnLsh | komani: best luck. I can't stand the f***er |
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| 05:45.56 | Dr_Cherry | kde 4.1 on Fedora 9. I'm running an app for which I'd like to supress keyboard repeat (While the keys are depressed). ideas? |
| 05:47.35 | PhrkOnLsh | Dr_Cherry: I dunno, but I can't enable kbd repeat ^_^ |
| 05:49.22 | Dr_Cherry | i'm fooling with kbdrate |
| 05:51.11 | Dr_Cherry | kbdrate is having an affect but I can't seem to just shut the feature off .. |
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| 06:16.44 | MAXI-MUM | plz guys i am having a q? how to activate mac menu on kde 4 and is there any way to mac my kde look like mac pl |
| 06:17.43 | PhrkOnLsh | MAXI-MUM: install macosx? |
| 06:18.04 | PhrkOnLsh | MAXI-MUM: try kxdocker, though as I said to someone else earlier it is unstable hard to configure bullocks |
| 06:19.09 | MAXI-MUM | PhrkOnLsh, i want to use linux not macosx but i dont like the new look of kde 4 and i like mac style more |
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| 06:19.35 | PhrkOnLsh | MAXI-MUM: It's all really configurable. I'm sure there is a plasma and kwin aqua themes |
| 06:19.41 | PhrkOnLsh | there are** |
| 06:19.51 | MAXI-MUM | there are alot of projects on making gnome look like mac but i cant find one on kde 4 |
| 06:20.47 | MAXI-MUM | but also i want the common menu that mac has .. it was available on kde 3.5 and is available for gnome now |
| 06:22.18 | PhrkOnLsh | KDE4 uses a whole different way of doing menus and such, with plasmoids. You will ahve to wait, prolly, till sth gets ported or written. |
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| 06:30.25 | PhrkOnLsh | gnight. |
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| 07:57.30 | hang3r | Anyone know why kdetv development has stopped? |
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| 08:05.57 | essial | can kde be set up to "detatch" from maximized mode by dragging the window? and if so, how? |
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| 08:11.37 | hang3r | yes, goto configure window behavior and in moving tab set "Allow moving and resizing of maximized windows" |
| 08:12.07 | essial | excellent |
| 08:12.25 | essial | I recently switched from gnome to kde after 7 years so I'm having to learn all over :) |
| 08:13.23 | essial | well it doesn't restore the window but its close enough |
| 08:14.32 | hang3r | by restore what do you mean? |
| 08:14.42 | hang3r | It seems to for me |
| 08:14.52 | essial | ok in gnome, if a window is maximized, and a drag a window, it restores it to the original size |
| 08:15.09 | hang3r | And I've just switched to KDE after about 4 years with gnome :) |
| 08:15.11 | essial | but on this it still keeps the maximized size |
| 08:15.21 | Simkin | essial: what version? |
| 08:15.25 | essial | 4.1 |
| 08:15.27 | Simkin | 3.5.10 here and it does it proper. |
| 08:15.34 | hang3r | yeah it works for me in 4.2 |
| 08:15.39 | hang3r | maybe its a bug |
| 08:15.47 | essial | kde 4.1.3 specifically |
| 08:15.50 | essial | ok I can live with that |
| 08:16.09 | essial | if kde didn't use Qt it'd be the perfect choice |
| 08:16.19 | Simkin | what is wrong with Qt? |
| 08:16.31 | essial | unless I misunderstand it, I cannot write commercial software with it |
| 08:16.45 | essial | so if Iw ant to write cross platform commercial software, I have to use gtk |
| 08:16.47 | Simkin | you can't write commercial software with KDE because it is GPL. |
| 08:16.51 | essial | exactly |
| 08:16.54 | Simkin | you can liscence Qt as gpl or commerical. |
| 08:17.05 | essial | but you have to pay for commercial Qt |
| 08:17.22 | essial | whereas with Gtk I just have to dynamically link as a DLL in windows and an external lib in linux |
| 08:17.23 | Simkin | well, yah, if you want to make software for profit you have to pay for the tool. |
| 08:17.32 | essial | only for Qt |
| 08:17.39 | essial | every other platform provides tools for free |
| 08:17.58 | hang3r | yay Qt vs Gtk debate |
| 08:18.04 | essial | Microsoft gives away its visual studio suite (express), and most of the other libs out there only require dynamic linking for commercial apps |
| 08:18.09 | essial | I'm not debating Gtk vs Qt |
| 08:18.16 | essial | I'm simply saying Qt license is a problem, nothing more |
| 08:18.17 | drantin | this isn't really the place for this debate at all |
| 08:18.30 | essial | I'm not debating :p |
| 08:18.50 | essial | I'm saying kde is awsome, I just don't like the Qt license, thats all : |
| 08:18.52 | essial | :) |
| 08:19.04 | drantin | #kde-chat is for that too :D |
| 08:19.06 | hang3r | No you don't need to debate, because clearly Gtk is inferior to Qt |
| 08:19.12 | essial | I agree |
| 08:19.17 | essial | hence why I switched |
| 08:19.31 | essial | having said that, I hated kde 2 and 3 with a passion |
| 08:19.50 | essial | ugly menus, things spread all over the place, and lots of redunancy |
| 08:20.00 | essial | but kde 4 really pulled things together |
| 08:20.40 | essial | The new "start" menu is highly productive, even more so than vista's |
| 08:21.24 | hang3r | I agree, and that is one of the main reasons I now prefer KDE of gnome, that and everything feels tightly integrated together in KDE 4 |
| 08:21.34 | hang3r | s/of/over/g |
| 08:21.35 | essial | yeah |
| 08:21.50 | essial | plus the oxygen interface, and the default fonts are very crisp and clear |
| 08:22.12 | essial | overall it has a very professional and sleek feel about it.. just the damn Qt license :) |
| 08:22.26 | essial | I can get around it though, I'll just use wxPython :D |
| 08:22.50 | hang3r | There's no way to link against Qt's libraries? |
| 08:23.00 | hang3r | I've never really looked into it |
| 08:23.06 | essial | from what I understand its a cut and try "commercial software must pay a commercial license" |
| 08:23.17 | essial | BEFORE work starts as well |
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| 08:23.32 | essial | it explicitly states you cannot "switch" from the gpl library to the commercial one |
| 08:23.46 | essial | which I find completely insane |
| 08:25.04 | essial | Well, the license is only $4,000 so depending on the terms I can handle that |
| 08:26.45 | hang3r | What kind of software are you developing essial? |
| 08:26.57 | essial | mainly medical business management software |
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| 08:27.17 | essial | but I have some other apps I'm thinking about putting together as well |
| 08:28.49 | hang3r | Ever thought of just developing your own library and just wrapping it around the target platform(s) native interface, that way you can re-use it in the future and save costs |
| 08:29.12 | essial | I've considered that |
| 08:29.33 | essial | but thats a lot of "grunt work" that has been done already with wxWidgets |
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| 08:30.41 | essial | wxWidgets fully supports commercial applications |
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| 08:33.00 | essial | hey han3r, does 4.2 support double-stacked buttons in the taskbar? |
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| 08:35.39 | hang3r | you mean window grouping? |
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| 08:36.40 | essial | no |
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| 08:36.48 | essial | I mean at the bottom where it shows your running programs |
| 08:37.02 | essial | I can only show about 6 before it gets tight, I usually use a double stacker |
| 08:37.17 | essial | I read they were going to add it, just curious if they had or not |
| 08:37.42 | hang3r | ah i see what you mean, I havent tried, i'll see if you can |
| 08:37.50 | essial | crosses his fingers |
| 08:41.27 | hang3r | Right click, Task manager settings -> maximum rows |
| 08:41.37 | hang3r | set it greater than two |
| 08:41.57 | essial | don't have that on this version, but thats good |
| 08:42.18 | hang3r | its not dual like like you would expect, but as it grows they expand into two rows |
| 08:42.24 | hang3r | or greater |
| 08:42.31 | essial | excellent |
| 08:43.38 | hang3r | you can "force row settings" and each application starts below the next instead of beside until the row has reached the "maximum rows" setting |
| 08:43.51 | hang3r | which is actually quite neat |
| 08:43.56 | hang3r | I may leave that turned on |
| 08:44.18 | essial | your welcome :) |
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| 08:44.58 | gps23 | hi |
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| 08:45.05 | Ace2016_- | hi |
| 08:45.06 | gps23 | how can i start-stop the services in kde4? |
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| 08:47.05 | essial | I know on ubuntu I click "K", tpe "services" and click the service manager |
| 08:47.19 | essial | may be different for you |
| 08:47.52 | gps23 | essial, i am in kubuntu, i tried what u told but nothin came |
| 08:48.06 | essial | found it |
| 08:48.10 | essial | go to system settings, click advanced |
| 08:48.17 | essial | then click on Service Manager |
| 08:48.36 | gps23 | essial, oh yes! thanks |
| 08:48.42 | essial | no problem |
| 08:49.12 | gps23 | essial, i think this one only shows kde specific services |
| 08:49.15 | essial | Sorry I'm new myself, I had ubuntu but I did an in-place swap to kubuntu |
| 08:49.48 | gps23 | essial, mean u installed kubuntu-desktop package over ubuntu? |
| 08:49.52 | essial | yeah |
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| 08:50.24 | hang3r | seems a lot of people are switching to kde |
| 08:50.31 | hang3r | interesting |
| 08:50.35 | essial | Blame linus |
| 08:50.41 | essial | he said gnome should die in a fire |
| 08:50.47 | essial | recently |
| 08:50.50 | hang3r | yeah but that was a long time ago |
| 08:50.50 | gps23 | essial, i formatted a well running kubuntu 7.xx with kde 3.5 to try kde4 |
| 08:50.53 | hang3r | oh really? |
| 08:51.12 | essial | kde 3 sucks, kde 4 is very good |
| 08:51.18 | essial | in my opinion of course |
| 08:51.34 | essial | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html |
| 08:51.37 | gps23 | kde4 is good, but its too slow on my system, i have disabled all desktop effects still its little bit sluggish |
| 08:52.02 | hang3r | essial: 2005 is recent to you? |
| 08:52.03 | essial | gps: then I recommend Xfce, it is very good |
| 08:52.04 | hang3r | :) |
| 08:52.08 | essial | yes 2005 is recent to me |
| 08:52.10 | gps23 | i have a P4 3 GHz HT with 1 GB ram but no graphic card |
| 08:52.23 | gps23 | thinkin for buyin a graphic card just for kde4 |
| 08:52.26 | essial | thats your porblem gps |
| 08:52.37 | essial | you have on board video so your video is literally suffocating your northbridge |
| 08:52.50 | gps23 | essial, yes i know, but kde 3.5 was running quite fast |
| 08:53.21 | gps23 | essial, i am a fluxbox lover, using it on gentoo in my laptop |
| 08:53.22 | essial | Tsk tsk for buying an on board video based pc :) |
| 08:53.34 | essial | flux is ok, but again, its all personal preference |
| 08:53.44 | gps23 | brb |
| 08:54.01 | essial | I find composit runs FASTER on my machine |
| 08:54.16 | essial | but I also have an nForce4 chipset |
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| 08:59.02 | hang3r | gps23: Press Shift+alt+f12 to disable compositing, tell me if it improves to the standard you experienced in 3.5 :) |
| 09:00.28 | hang3r | oh sorry, I didn't read that you said it runs faster while compositing, that's strange if it does |
| 09:01.59 | essial | depends on how his northbridge and southbridge handles traffic |
| 09:02.24 | essial | it could give the on board video priority over pure cpu ops |
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| 09:12.48 | gps23 | hang3r, what is compositing? |
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| 09:13.47 | gps23 | hang3r, shift-alt-F12 isn't doing anything, may be because i have disabled desktop effects |
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| 09:15.14 | hang3r | gps23: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing_window_manager |
| 09:15.37 | hang3r | gps23: You've disabled it then so that's not why its running slower than 3.5 I guess |
| 09:15.51 | gps23 | hang3r, thanks, i realised my mistake after i asked the question |
| 09:17.19 | essial | have you guys read gnome's human interface guidelines? its pretty hardcore |
| 09:17.37 | gps23 | hang3r, i have disabled desktop effects, earlier strigidaemon was slowing down the system, now i have removed it using aptitude |
| 09:17.57 | gps23 | its somewhat faster now |
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| 09:20.17 | essial | "Do not use drop-down lists with fewer than three items, or more than about ten. To offer a choice of two options, use radio buttons or toggle buttons. To offer a choice of more than ten options, use a list." |
| 09:20.31 | essial | thats hardcore :) |
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| 09:33.10 | hang3r | interesting, what if the drop down list is dynamic |
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| 09:33.47 | hang3r | i suppose there answer for that is to use a list box |
| 09:34.04 | hang3r | well what if a list box isn't appropriate for what you want |
| 09:34.05 | hang3r | :) |
| 09:34.14 | hang3r | *their |
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| 10:59.21 | hyper_ch | is there a running now playing script for knoversation and amarok2? |
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| 11:01.22 | freeedrich| | hyper_ch: no |
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| 11:01.41 | freeedrich| | hyper_ch: since konversationn isn't ported yet, there is none I believe. |
| 11:02.01 | hyper_ch | freeedrich|: I have a script now that will output on the terminal what amarok 2 plays |
| 11:02.09 | hyper_ch | freeedrich|: but I can't get it to import it in konvi |
| 11:03.04 | freeedrich| | what some nasty "/exec" it should be possible. |
| 11:03.07 | freeedrich| | Ãwith |
| 11:03.12 | freeedrich| | *with |
| 11:03.42 | _lumm | yup |
| 11:03.43 | hyper_ch | freeedrich|: nope... doesn't do anything |
| 11:03.51 | _lumm | there was a ruby scri |
| 11:04.03 | hyper_ch | _lumm: that's the one I'm using (I think) |
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| 11:04.49 | _lumm | and it isnt working anymore? |
| 11:04.52 | hyper_ch | _lumm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/94208/ |
| 11:05.01 | hyper_ch | it works from the cli... prints nicely |
| 11:05.01 | _lumm | np: Electric Universe - Stardiver [Stardiver, 1997] |
| 11:05.06 | _lumm | http://rapidshare.de/files/41226289/amaroknowplaying.rb.html |
| 11:05.13 | hyper_ch | but when I try to run it in konversation just nothing appears |
| 11:05.26 | _lumm | mh works here with xchat |
| 11:05.28 | _lumm | botta go. |
| 11:05.31 | _lumm | gotta |
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| 11:07.17 | hyper_ch | nothing happenes when I enter: /nowplaying |
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| 11:45.02 | flabr | hi there...i installed kde4.1 with compiz fusion...the issue is that the pager just show 1 big square instead of 4 small ones...even if I remove and add it again, it will just show 1 big square everytime i login to suse...any ideas? |
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| 11:50.51 | Phlogi | why is the pannel blue whne using oxygen theme? I mean where does the blue actually come from? |
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| 11:54.14 | cibaer | the quicklauncher applet should open a classic-style kde-menu for adding new programs |
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| 11:54.39 | cibaer | and the classic style kde menu should not cover the panel |
| 11:54.50 | cibaer | (the submenus) |
| 11:59.50 | hyper_ch | nothing happenes when I enter: /nowplaying |
| 12:00.24 | freeedrich| | hyper_ch: sure it doesn't. You need to set an alias for that. |
| 12:00.44 | freeedrich| | Or simply do "/exec -o <path/to/nowplaying/script> |
| 12:00.58 | hyper_ch | freeedrich|: I know... this was a mistake... it works mostly now |
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| 12:20.49 | cibaer | no "kfontview" application in bugzilla |
| 12:20.54 | cibaer | where to post crash-report? |
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| 12:25.32 | mib_dy4cx5 | ? |
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| 12:34.06 | sint | hey, is there a way to get konqueror to use specified css for submit buttons in forms? |
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| 12:39.55 | icwiener | sint: Just create your own css file with the button definitions and load it as your user.css in the config dialog. |
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| 12:40.46 | icwiener | sint: It is under Appearance, the third tab. |
| 12:40.54 | sint | icwiener: ya, but i mean for all users of konqueror. its the only browser that shows some kind of "own" button in my website |
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| 12:43.03 | sint | icwiener: thought there might be some special css command to override the default |
| 12:43.36 | icwiener | I do not know if there is a global option. |
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| 12:56.27 | Phlogi | why is the pannel blue whne using oxygen theme? I mean where does the blue actually come from? |
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| 13:04.49 | hang3r | Phlogi: It comes from the gods |
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| 13:23.27 | userss | hello |
| 13:23.39 | userss | where are your in ? |
| 13:23.56 | Prax01D | Hi. After installing KDE 3.5.10 in Debian (1st time for me), the 2 Debian consoles which are started by the console-log bootup script from /etc/rc2.d (which display/tail the syslog and exim mainlog contents) can no longer access consoles tty8 and tty9. In fact, they keep re-spawning constantly in an attempt to access these consoles, and are building up multi-megabyte hourly log files and a huge /var/log/syslog file... What to do ab |
| 13:24.12 | userss | where are you come from ? |
| 13:24.52 | userss | rrr |
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| 13:25.48 | pinotree | Prax01D: i suggest you asking in #debian-kde |
| 13:25.57 | Prax01D | IC. |
| 13:26.00 | Prax01D | ok. |
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| 13:49.42 | mustu | hey .. i just installed Compiz on KDE .. but it says Compiz not enabled.. how can i check my Graphics requirements? |
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| 13:56.47 | Phlogi | why is the pannel blue whne using oxygen theme? I mean where does the blue actually come from? |
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| 13:57.27 | pinotree | Phlogi: err... no cronjobs please |
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| 13:58.39 | Phlogi | I think I got used to it now |
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| 14:45.56 | AliTarihi | Hi I get this error: |
| 14:45.58 | AliTarihi | KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path: |
| 14:46.00 | AliTarihi | empty |
| 14:46.14 | AliTarihi | I can not launch any application |
| 14:46.18 | AliTarihi | what to do? |
| 14:46.54 | MoDaX | AliTarihi: relogin |
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| 14:47.54 | AliTarihi | MoDaX: Any other solution? I preffer not to do it |
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| 14:49.26 | MoDaX | AliTarihi: I believe there is no other easy solution. dbus-launcher crashed and all dbus environment vars became invalid |
| 14:49.42 | AliTarihi | MoDaX: I see. |
| 14:50.11 | AliTarihi | So I'll re login |
| 14:50.18 | AliTarihi | Thx :) |
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| 14:51.01 | wing_ | help |
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| 14:51.52 | tomaz_cooking | wing_: it`s easyer if you say in what you want help ;) |
| 14:52.22 | wing_ | sorry, is there any Chinese here? |
| 14:52.38 | wing_ | tom, do you use kmplayer? |
| 14:53.14 | tomaz_cooking | wing_: I use dragonplayer ( the standart kde4 one ) and mplayer. |
| 14:54.23 | wing_ | I use them too, but I want to watch TV or film online |
| 14:54.37 | wing_ | so, maybe kmplayer is a better choice |
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| 14:56.51 | tomaz_cooking | I tougth kmplayer was a mplayer frontend to KDE. |
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| 14:57.19 | wing_ | can mplayer use xine engine? |
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| 14:57.59 | wing_ | hey, dude, do you have any recommendations for on line player? |
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| 14:58.16 | wing_ | exclude sopcast |
| 14:58.29 | Half-Left | No because mplayer IS it's own engine |
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| 14:59.01 | tomaz_cooking | wing_: I use ... youtube for online streaming. ._. |
| 14:59.29 | wing_ | you mean.....watch movie in youtube's website? |
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| 15:00.17 | tomaz_cooking | yah. |
| 15:00.19 | tomaz_cooking | ._. |
| 15:00.30 | wing_ | hey, where are you from? |
| 15:00.41 | wing_ | tomaz~~~ |
| 15:00.49 | tomaz_cooking | but, i`m in brazil, the defacto internet link here is 1mb. so it`s hard for streaming online videos ;D |
| 15:02.05 | wing_ | haha....I am in China |
| 15:02.30 | SirMArtin | hi, the guys from #kubuntu send me over here. I have some questions about ssh and the kwallet: I have some questions regarding ssh. I load my ssh-keys during the start-up of kde with a skript (ssh-add) placed in the "Autostart" folder in my home directory. during the start-up i'm asked to enter my password for the key. can I add the password to the kwallet, so that I do not have to enter two passwords at startup? |
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| 15:03.28 | wing_ | we use 10Mb shared internet link |
| 15:03.52 | wing_ | it's ok to see online video |
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| 15:04.01 | wing_ | any way, thank you tom |
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| 15:34.25 | wishie | with the new phonon sound server thing.. what is the process name that runs ? |
| 15:34.32 | wishie | is it simply 'phonon' ? |
| 15:34.46 | wishie | im updating my alsa-info.sh script, and want to check for 'sound servers' |
| 15:35.03 | jazka | I don't think there's any process running (correct me if I'm wrong) |
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| 15:37.26 | wishie | is it not similar in how it works, to pulseaudio/jack/arts and friends |
| 15:37.31 | wishie | all of those have a process that runs |
| 15:37.39 | wishie | the 'daemon' as such |
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| 15:38.35 | sergio | boa tarde! |
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| 15:39.42 | sputnick__ | hi. what is the way I can recover my last wallets on a fresh install of debian ? kwalletrc kwalletmanagerrc are copied to my new .kde dir. I have to wallets when I restart it |
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| 15:48.21 | wishie | ok, so phonon is an API, not a 'server' |
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| 16:27.21 | ThomasPeter | Hi! Is it possible to send a styled HTML message with KMail? Like I can with Thunderbird? |
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| 16:42.33 | qwp0 | hi, khotkeys not working in kde 4.1.3? |
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| 16:51.54 | mmarco | hi |
| 16:52.22 | mmarco | how can i configure kde to recognize the multimedia keys of my keyboard? |
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| 17:00.10 | brainsqueezer | mmarco: you need linux to recognize them, after that are keys like any other |
| 17:00.54 | qwp0 | mmarco: I guess it would be possible using the khotkeys daemon but it doesn't appear to work in kde4. Even though, the keys may be still configured in some concrete apps, e.g. I've managed to make amarok to change volume when vol +/- keys are pressed... |
| 17:01.14 | mmarco | ok, i am still using kde3 |
| 17:01.19 | qwp0 | if Linux doesn't recognize the keys, that's not problem of KDE I think |
| 17:01.33 | mmarco | how can i make linux recognize them? |
| 17:01.38 | qwp0 | mmarco: the daemon is present in kde3 too AFAIK |
| 17:02.37 | mmarco | i will try to install khotkeys |
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| 17:03.15 | mmarco | ok, i do have khotkeys installed |
| 17:03.26 | mmarco | do i need to configure something? |
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| 17:04.37 | qwp0 | mmarco: probably map those keys to kmix functions... |
| 17:05.49 | mmarco | i have tried that, but kmix seems not to detect the pressing of those keys |
| 17:09.37 | mmarco | is there any program to make linux recognize the keys? |
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| 17:12.18 | cb400f | mmarco: may wanna try keytouch .. not a kde app.. but works for me |
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| 17:13.39 | seto | hi, in dolphin is it possible to sort file by tag ? (I have added tag information to pdf files in the information box, and want to manage my file with it) |
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| 17:20.31 | seto | it's seem to be not possible, for now.; can't use tag to sort files.. |
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| 17:27.43 | shiv_meg | hello can i ask questions on freespire |
| 17:27.54 | shiv_meg | i am new to freespire |
| 17:28.18 | DaZ | this is not a freespire channel :< |
| 17:28.22 | shiv_meg | it is Freespire 2 |
| 17:28.28 | shiv_meg | okay |
| 17:28.32 | shiv_meg | sorry |
| 17:29.07 | shiv_meg | still lokking |
| 17:29.07 | DaZ | #freespire ? |
| 17:29.13 | shiv_meg | linspire |
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| 17:29.13 | shiv_meg | in new bottle DAZ |
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| 17:29.22 | DaZ | whateva |
| 17:29.28 | DaZ | nobody's using this distro anyway |
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| 17:29.59 | shepherd | anyone know of a linux software equivlent to something like quickbooks |
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| 17:30.12 | shepherd | to track invetory, sales, customers, and stuff like that |
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| 17:33.56 | tuxick | once again i lost keyboard on 4.1.3, any ideas about cause? |
| 17:34.09 | danielw_ | is tjhere a set of window manager tweaks I can use to force openoffice dialogs to open on the same screen as the active document? |
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| 17:34.27 | tuxick | i bet it's related with konqueror ignoring ctrl-f sometimes |
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| 17:40.27 | flabr | hi there...has anyone succeded in installing liquid weather under kde4.1? |
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| 17:45.07 | danielw_ | is there a set of window manager tweaks I can use to force openoffice dialogs to open on the same screen as the active document? |
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| 17:57.59 | sputnick_ | hi |
| 17:58.13 | sputnick_ | where are stored the key bindings in kde3 ? |
| 17:58.41 | sputnick_ | I'd like to migrate thoses to my fresh kde install from a backup |
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| 18:00.42 | sputnick_ | idea : create a new test one, and "find .kde-mmin -2 |
| 18:00.52 | danielw_ | hey i finally did it!!! |
| 18:00.52 | sputnick_ | "find .kde -mmin -2 " |
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| 18:01.11 | sputnick_ | .kde/share/config/khotkeysrc |
| 18:01.12 | danielw_ | openoffice dialogs are now on the screen I want!! |
| 18:01.12 | sputnick_ | :) |
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| 18:01.22 | sputnick_ | thanks sputnick_ |
| 18:01.31 | danielw_ | sweetness! |
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| 18:03.51 | eazyadm_ | hi there |
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| 18:04.42 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 18:04.52 | sputnick_ | heh Dumble ;) |
| 18:05.21 | eazyadm_ | i'm looking for a possibility to use authentication passtrough in kde, that i can use my system logon to authenticate to my samba volumes and uncrypt my containers for example |
| 18:05.39 | Dumble | I have a little problem : it seems that phonon doesn't works with OSS v4 :s |
| 18:05.47 | eazyadm_ | i searched already with google but i was not able to find infomations |
| 18:08.14 | Skrot- | http://pastebin.com/d1cff9c0d anyone familiar with that? While compiling kdebase HEAD |
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| 18:17.22 | Phlogi | whats the most mature mplayer gui for kde? |
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| 18:17.49 | Dumble | Phlogi, konsole maybe ? |
| 18:17.51 | Dumble | :D |
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| 18:18.20 | smurfslover | kmplayer and smplayer are nice |
| 18:18.21 | Phlogi | Dumble: :p... do those gui make mplayer work with kio? what about xine? |
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| 18:19.23 | cb400f | Phlogi: overall kaffeine is probably the best kde videoplayer |
| 18:19.37 | Dumble | you have dragonplayer wich use phonon |
| 18:20.02 | Phlogi | cb400f: does it support kio? |
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| 18:21.08 | freeedrich| | Phlogi: It probably does. But there is no reason to use kaffeine - at least not from svn, since that doesn't really work well. |
| 18:21.45 | Phlogi | freeedrich|: hehe thanks... I mean I'm fine with native xine and mplayer or even vlc, but they all don't support kio |
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| 18:24.41 | Phlogi | kmplayer does not play from sftp:// |
| 18:25.28 | Phlogi | :S |
| 18:26.43 | Phlogi | hmm amarok can't either... nor kaffeine4 :S |
| 18:28.52 | Half-Left | Oh no, the world is going to end! |
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| 18:35.29 | Phlogi | Half-Left: indeed... BUT there is kplayer which finally can do it |
| 18:35.38 | Phlogi | freeedrich|: I'll create an ebuild for it |
| 18:35.57 | freeedrich| | alright |
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| 18:40.29 | flabr | hi there...im new to KDE 4.1 ...just wonder how can I add icons on the desktop...Type is Desktop |
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| 18:42.10 | Hydrogen | use the "folderview" |
| 18:42.26 | cb400f | flabr: what icons? .. files? .. shortcuts for apps? |
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| 18:42.49 | flabr | cb400f: umm..like skype Icon...aMSN...those things |
| 18:43.04 | cb400f | right click on the things in kickoff -> add to desktop |
| 18:43.12 | flabr | does not work |
| 18:43.23 | cb400f | widgets locked? |
| 18:43.25 | flabr | they do not show up on the desktop |
| 18:43.28 | White_Pelican | it should work in 4.2 beta 2 |
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| 18:45.23 | flabr | cb400f: the option to add an icon...right click on kickoff...just show up if widget is unlocked...but does not work...the icons do not show up on the desktop |
| 18:45.28 | flabr | might be a bug |
| 18:45.53 | cb400f | worksforme |
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| 18:46.10 | flabr | what do u have as Desktop type? |
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| 18:46.44 | cb400f | "plain desktop".. which is an openSUSE thingy without the cashew in top right |
| 18:48.03 | flabr | im on suse 11.1 |
| 18:48.07 | flabr | will try |
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| 18:48.51 | flabr | does not work....plain desktop...then add icon to desktop ,.,,sh |
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| 18:51.12 | cb400f | flabr: sure your eyes are open? .. for me the icon appears in top left behind the folderview widget :-) |
| 18:53.10 | cb400f | flabr: how about if you drag from kickoff instead of right click? |
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| 18:56.54 | flabr | cb400f: sh...simple things sometimes can take forever ....yes... dragging works fine...sorry...but im still new to kde4.1....thanks :) |
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| 18:59.53 | Phlogi | kplayer is the only player btw that seems to support kio... nice :) |
| 19:00.03 | Simkin | what be kio? |
| 19:00.07 | flabr | cb400f: would u recommend any dock in order to run with kde4.1 and compiz? |
| 19:00.27 | cb400f | ewww.. I'd surely recommend using KWin |
| 19:00.39 | Phlogi | Simkin: ? |
| 19:01.10 | flabr | will check... |
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| 19:07.50 | flabr | i dont know if anyone has the same issue but the Pager on my toolbar just show 1 big square instead of 4 small squares...that happens just after compiz fusion loads...anyone with same issue? |
| 19:08.27 | freeedrich| | flabr: I'd guess the virtual desktop stuff is provided by kwin. |
| 19:08.47 | freeedrich| | So, when you turn on compiz, the pager doesn't find its virtual desktops anymore. |
| 19:08.51 | Phlogi | yeah cool, you can drag a snapshot image right from ksnapshot to the pastebin applet and it will be uploaded to the web :) thats cool!!! |
| 19:09.25 | Phlogi | flabr: jup... compiz does not work well together with kde... its normal and a known "issue" |
| 19:09.52 | flabr | ummm...weird...on another pc running kde3... do not have that issue |
| 19:10.48 | Phlogi | flabr: then its not yet hacked to work with kde4 maybe |
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| 19:11.29 | flabr | ok |
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| 19:14.09 | DexterF | hi |
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| 19:14.30 | DexterF | need a n00b friendly gui tool to display system inof like: cpu, speed, ram, video card and such |
| 19:14.33 | Ratfink | How do I configure a key to change speaker volume in kde 3.5.10? |
| 19:14.35 | DexterF | any recommendations? |
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| 19:16.40 | junkDawgie | DexterF: both karamba and kde4 plasmoids have serveral applets that can accomplish what you are seeking, check at kde-look.org |
| 19:16.52 | DexterF | nuh-uh, kde3 |
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| 19:17.55 | DexterF | how can one check the kde version installed the easiest way? |
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| 19:23.46 | junkDawgie | DexterF: most apps have an About selection that usually displays the kde version... you can also get it from the command line by requesting the version of a kde component such as "kded -v" etc. |
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| 19:25.25 | DexterF | junkDawgie: the "about" way was succesful. and even that took several minutes. I've seen some computer illiterates, but that woman is the dot on the i |
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| 19:25.43 | ner0x | What is the package that lets you change the GTK them to look like your kde theme, also is displayed in kcontrol. |
| 19:25.57 | arezey | ner0x, gtk-qt-engine |
| 19:26.00 | DexterF | ner0x: gtk-qt-engine |
| 19:26.03 | smurfslover | DexterF: or fire up kcontrol |
| 19:27.07 | DexterF | smurfslover: not too talkative either |
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| 19:29.28 | smurfslover | ksysguard |
| 19:29.32 | smurfslover | my fault |
| 19:29.51 | smurfslover | ar you can install kinfocenter |
| 19:31.49 | DexterF | which is kde4 again. at least here. |
| 19:32.18 | DexterF | ksysguard not for n00bs. but for me... um, how do you cram more than one sensor in one ksysguard sheet? |
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| 19:47.10 | ErkiDerLoony1 | Hi! I like the new powerdevil very much! But is there a way to prevent it from locking my screen when I watch videos with vlc? |
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| 19:48.06 | ErkiDerLoony | Using kdemod 4.1.3 and vlc 0.9.8a. |
| 19:48.51 | Psi-Jack | You know. That's an excelent question. |
| 19:49.25 | ErkiDerLoony | I already have enabled the option âdisable powermanagement daemon while playingâ in vlc prefs. |
| 19:49.34 | ErkiDerLoony | But that one seems not to work with powerdevil. |
| 19:49.42 | ErkiDerLoony | Psi-Jack: You have the same problem? |
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| 19:50.10 | Psi-Jack | I believe so. ;) |
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| 19:50.50 | illissius` | how can you move a plasmoid that's on a panel? |
| 19:51.25 | ErkiDerLoony | Psi-Jack: And could you find out anything? Is perhaps something planned about that for 4.2 release or so? |
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| 19:52.17 | Half-Left | ErkiDerLoony: In the power settings(say performance) you can ask what to do when idle |
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| 19:53.05 | illissius` | bah |
| 19:53.30 | uic | hey all, i'm using kde 4.2. i can't change my panels background. is it possible to change as transparent or another colour? |
| 19:53.31 | Half-Left | illissius`: Panel settings |
| 19:53.42 | illissius` | while moving a folderview around the top of my desktop, i keep accidentally dragging it onto the panel (on top) and can't get it back off :/ |
| 19:53.52 | ErkiDerLoony | Half-Left: Yeah. But if I'm watching a video the pc's not idle. |
| 19:53.57 | ErkiDerLoony | Or should not be. |
| 19:54.02 | Half-Left | uic: No, it's a SVG graphic |
| 19:54.09 | ErkiDerLoony | I want it to lock my screen if it's idle. |
| 19:54.10 | illissius` | Half-Left: ah. thanks! |
| 19:54.17 | ErkiDerLoony | But not when I'm watching a film. |
| 19:54.22 | uic | Half-Left: it's blue. i want it black :/ |
| 19:54.42 | Half-Left | ErkiDerLoony: Well watching a film is like it being idle so just tell it to not lock the screen |
| 19:55.35 | ErkiDerLoony | You don't get the point ... |
| 19:55.54 | Half-Left | uic: Aya is the only theme that follows colour scheme, if you want to change the colour you have to do that manually |
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| 19:56.48 | Half-Left | ErkiDerLoony: Well when you watch a video the mouse doesn't move, thats classed as idle |
| 19:56.58 | uic | Half-Left: manually? how? |
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| 19:57.39 | Half-Left | uic: You have know you way around plasma theming and svg :p |
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| 19:58.15 | uic | Half-Left: okey dokey. i'm with my brother now -> google :P |
| 19:58.25 | ErkiDerLoony | Half-Left: Well ok, but anyway should powerdevil not lock the screen when one is watching a video. |
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| 19:58.54 | Half-Left | ErkiDerLoony: Why, the mouse is not moving, it doesn't know your watching a video |
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| 19:59.30 | Half-Left | It wants to save power, there for it is |
| 19:59.58 | Half-Left | Tell it to do nothing when idle |
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| 20:00.53 | smurfslover | some players can be setup to stop the screen from locking when whatching video |
| 20:01.04 | Half-Left | yep |
| 20:01.07 | ErkiDerLoony | But that's not usable! |
| 20:01.30 | Half-Left | So how does it know your watching a video? |
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| 20:02.51 | ErkiDerLoony | See if vlc is running? |
| 20:03.23 | Half-Left | So it supposed to see if any of your players are running? |
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| 20:04.19 | danuthaiduc | or it could be a window-specific rule 'not to lock desktop' |
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| 20:04.44 | Half-Left | Simple case would be to do what I said, it's that simple |
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| 20:05.47 | ErkiDerLoony | Yeah ok, done. But above mentioned feature would be convenient for the future. |
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| 20:07.24 | Half-Left | Pretty sure power saving doesn't work like that, it goes on mouse movement unless you specify otherwise |
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| 20:08.23 | danuthaiduc | but what if you're playing supertux2 which doesn't involve mouse? |
| 20:08.41 | Half-Left | keyboard presses then |
| 20:09.35 | Half-Left | or device activity |
| 20:09.54 | danuthaiduc | is the multi-row task manager in svn? |
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| 20:10.09 | Half-Left | So your playing a movie and go out for a while and forget about it, thats nice your battery is not draining when you get back |
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| 20:10.47 | Half-Left | danuthaiduc: Yes, has been for sometime now |
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| 20:11.43 | danuthaiduc | oh |
| 20:11.49 | danuthaiduc | nice |
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| 20:15.31 | poncha|work | what do i need to setup default browser in kde? (i am using gnome as window manager but using some of k* apps, namely kopete ... so i dont have all kde packages, only the base libs and qt) but atm kopete does not handle urls like i expect ... |
| 20:16.18 | poncha|work | .. and since i cant find any setting like this in kopete itself i believe it is supposed to obey kde configs |
| 20:17.23 | Half-Left | poncha|work: It's usually dont in the systemsetting/control center |
| 20:17.28 | Half-Left | done* |
| 20:17.41 | PhrkOnLsh | but he's running GNOME |
| 20:17.53 | PhrkOnLsh | sounds like sth to ask those boys, even if it is realted to kopete. |
| 20:17.58 | Half-Left | Yes, I know |
| 20:18.00 | poncha|work | yeah... so what package/exec is control center? |
| 20:18.17 | Half-Left | can't tell you want package |
| 20:18.21 | danuthaiduc | try typing systemsettings to see if you have it |
| 20:18.23 | PhrkOnLsh | poncha|work: I don't know much about GNOME, but it should be lurking somewhere in GNOME's config dohickies |
| 20:18.30 | poncha|work | PhrkOnLsh: theres default browser setting in gnoe too but kopete does not obey it |
| 20:18.44 | PhrkOnLsh | Why browser? Kopete is instant messenger |
| 20:18.46 | poncha|work | so i am thinking it is still looking for settings from kde despite running under another wm |
| 20:19.00 | poncha|work | PhrkOnLsh: people send URLS in text messages |
| 20:19.07 | PhrkOnLsh | Oh |
| 20:19.08 | PhrkOnLsh | OH |
| 20:19.10 | PhrkOnLsh | wow, sorry |
| 20:19.11 | poncha|work | now, when i click a url - kopete fires Quanta |
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| 20:19.39 | Half-Left | KDE3 is kcontrol/KDE4 is systemsettings |
| 20:19.59 | poncha|work | thanks, will try this |
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| 20:21.08 | Phlogi | anyone has a hint about this linker error? http://pastebin.ca/1295298 |
| 20:22.13 | kdepepo | Phlogi, plasma API isn't stable yet, you may trying to compile an applet with an incompatible plasma version. |
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| 20:23.53 | Phlogi | kdepepo: I just compiled kdelibs before :S.... |
| 20:24.08 | Phlogi | so that reference comes from kdelibs? |
| 20:24.09 | kdepepo | Phlogi, plasma libraries are also in kdebase. |
| 20:24.11 | poncha|work | Half-Left: any idea how to set ff as a default browser there? (kde3 - kcontrol) ... internet/browser menu is all about konqurer |
| 20:24.34 | Phlogi | ok I'll try to recompile that |
| 20:25.04 | Half-Left | poncha|work: Not sure about KDE3 but there should be a Default Applications option of some kind |
| 20:25.07 | kdepepo | Phlogi, if you compile from svn, update kdelibs, kdebase and kdeplasma-addons together. And make sure you have no distribution packages/headers lying around, such as old libplasma-dev etc. |
| 20:26.15 | Simkin | emerge kde-meta |
| 20:26.16 | Simkin | and be happy |
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| 20:27.01 | Phlogi | Simkin: nope |
| 20:27.17 | Phlogi | kdepepo: I think its kde-base/libtaskmanager that i need to recompile maybe :) |
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| 20:29.23 | danuthaiduc | what is that mechanics education app called - with springs and ramps etc? |
| 20:29.34 | poncha|work | Half-Left: aha.. found it... it's under file associations in kde3 (by mime type) |
| 20:29.36 | kdepepo | danuthaiduc, Step |
| 20:29.41 | danuthaiduc | ohh thanks |
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| 20:30.56 | somekool | hi there |
| 20:31.08 | somekool | i am using the new beta2. |
| 20:31.10 | somekool | it is great |
| 20:31.22 | danuthaiduc | congratulations! |
| 20:31.52 | somekool | but, I dont know if I did something wrong... but my desktop background has been resized to the top. it has 20 pixels in height or something. everything else is black |
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| 20:31.56 | somekool | any idea how to fix this? |
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| 20:33.35 | Half-Left | somekool: KDE4? |
| 20:33.52 | somekool | yes 4.1.85 |
| 20:34.26 | Half-Left | Sound like you'll have to restart plasma |
| 20:34.55 | somekool | a restart is not enough |
| 20:35.02 | somekool | the setting has been saved like that |
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| 20:35.48 | Half-Left | How did it happen? |
| 20:36.44 | somekool | i am not sure, I was playing with resizing the panel |
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| 20:38.03 | Half-Left | I've seen this but a restart of plasma fixes it |
| 20:38.03 | SSJ_GZ | somekool: If it definitely survives a restart of Plasma, then file a bug report, include a screenshot and attach your plasma config files. |
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| 20:39.00 | somekool | ok,... killall plasma && plasma worked |
| 20:39.01 | somekool | thanks |
| 20:39.41 | Half-Left | try using kquitapp next time |
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| 20:40.01 | PhrkOnLsh | what is the difference? |
| 20:40.19 | somekool | 4.1.85 is pretty sweet |
| 20:40.31 | somekool | kopete is still not connecting anymore |
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| 20:40.46 | SSJ_GZ | PhrkOnLsh: kquitapp is cleaner and allows the app to shutdown gracefully. |
| 20:40.51 | PhrkOnLsh | somekool: what protocol? |
| 20:40.56 | PhrkOnLsh | SSJ_GZ: ah, I figured. |
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| 20:41.13 | somekool | msn |
| 20:41.18 | PhrkOnLsh | hrm |
| 20:41.26 | PhrkOnLsh | Dunno. :] |
| 20:41.41 | somekool | i set the config in kde 3.5, I probably have to kill kopete's configs |
| 20:41.44 | Half-Left | You need libmsn for that now, I assume you have it :p |
| 20:41.56 | somekool | Half-Left: i do |
| 20:42.00 | Half-Left | svn? |
| 20:42.10 | somekool | ubuntu pack |
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| 20:45.59 | somekool | ok its good |
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| 20:50.48 | Vollstrecker | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.54 | Half-Left | Vollstrecker: Try kwin --replace |
| 20:52.38 | Vollstrecker | Replace what? I have a shell in putty and an empty x screen. |
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| 20:54.31 | Vollstrecker | kwin --replace with no arg gives me something about missing XInputExtension on Display 10.0 |
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| 20:56.03 | kdepepo | then start an older window manager. |
| 20:56.05 | BULLE | Vollstrecker: XInputExtension is just as it says, an extensions, and is not mandatory to implement, so it should not be an issue ( but i dont know much about kde 4 and what it requires, but i have experienced earlier gnome bugs, where it failed to run, if no XInputExtension was found, that bug was fixed though ) |
| 20:56.11 | kdepepo | fvwm, twm, whatever. |
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| 20:57.01 | uic | i installed aya theme for kde4. but i can not activate it in kcontrol center. |
| 20:57.14 | PhrkOnLsh | uic: use systemsettings |
| 20:57.17 | Vollstrecker | kde 3.5.something. It works, I just want to start the app with decorations. I don't want to install some other de. |
| 20:57.18 | PhrkOnLsh | kcontrol is kde3 |
| 20:57.18 | dagobart | I thought I might find my NickServ password by peeking into kwalletmanager. Unfortunately, I couldn't find it there (is it there at all). But in Konversation it's still. Ideas how to recover it? |
| 20:57.32 | uic | PhrkOnLsh: i mentioned system settings :) |
| 20:57.41 | Half-Left | uic: You dont activate plasma themes for systemsettings |
| 20:57.47 | Half-Left | from* |
| 20:57.54 | uic | where i can activate? |
| 20:58.20 | kdepepo | plasma isn't integrated into system settings, there is a bug report about this. You need to right-click desktop, then select settings there. |
| 20:58.25 | Half-Left | right click desktop>Aperance settings |
| 20:58.28 | uic | Half-Left: i see aya in advanced settings in system settings |
| 20:58.30 | uic | ok |
| 20:59.11 | dagobart | can anyone give some hints about the Nickserv passwd recovery? |
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| 21:02.35 | dagobart | If anyone would like to help, I'm leaving to another machine. Refer to me as dag_away |
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| 21:05.37 | pinotree | dag_away: you should ask in #freenode |
| 21:05.42 | Hail_Spacecake | I just assigned a keyboard shorcut for walk Through Desktops |
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| 21:05.49 | Hail_Spacecake | and having done that, absolutely nothing happens |
| 21:06.12 | Hail_Spacecake | I first tried WindowsKey+Tab' |
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| 21:06.48 | Hail_Spacecake | and doing that just tabbed around fields in the keyboard shortcuts dialogue, as if I weren't pressing windows (or meta) at all |
| 21:06.56 | dag_away | pinotree: well, the point I'm after is konversation still knows the passwd, and I can use it. So, the point of approach micht be konversation indeed |
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| 21:07.08 | Hail_Spacecake | then I tried alt+a in case the windows key was somehow messing things up, and that just did nothing |
| 21:07.38 | Hail_Spacecake | whne I happened to be over a text input it just typed "a"'s in |
| 21:07.40 | Hail_Spacecake | what's going on here? |
| 21:07.43 | cibaer | is there a possibility to emulate windows-behaviour with ALT+NUM keys to get unicode characters? |
| 21:07.55 | Hail_Spacecake | is this a bug or am I forgetting something obvious? |
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| 21:09.22 | DexterF | Hail_Spacecake: broken keyboard? stale vnc session? evil h4x0rs? :) |
| 21:10.56 | Hail_Spacecake | DexterF: doubt the keyboard's broken, I don't know how to diagnose a stale vnc session |
| 21:11.21 | Hail_Spacecake | I'm not running any services so I doubt evil h4x0rs have anything to do with it |
| 21:11.27 | DexterF | Hail_Spacecake: ps ax | grep vnc. if there's anything in there and you wouldn't know I'd get paranoid... |
| 21:11.58 | Hail_Spacecake | DexterF, there's nothing |
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| 21:12.25 | Hail_Spacecake | well, except the process of myself grepping 'vnc' |
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| 21:13.00 | d-snp | :P |
| 21:13.14 | d-snp | if you can type grep vnc, then there are no a's coming up |
| 21:13.41 | Hail_Spacecake | the keyboard works fine |
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| 21:14.13 | Hail_Spacecake | I guess I can't be absolutely sure the winkey works but alt works fine |
| 21:14.24 | Hail_Spacecake | alt-tab is fine, it's just this new shortcut that I want to add that doesn't |
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| 21:15.45 | d_mitry | where can i find out about krec's overlaying functionality? |
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| 21:17.15 | LinuxMafia | hi alll |
| 21:17.25 | LinuxMafia | where can i disable power management |
| 21:19.00 | DexterF | Hail_Spacecake: outta ideas |
| 21:19.07 | Hail_Spacecake | lovely |
| 21:19.13 | Hail_Spacecake | this feels like a legit bug |
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| 21:22.17 | PhrkOnLsh | LinuxMafia: ACPI? Powerdevil? kpowersave? |
| 21:22.25 | friedrich| | Hail_Spacecake: what kde version? |
| 21:22.41 | Hail_Spacecake | 4.1 |
| 21:23.15 | LinuxMafia | PhrkOnLsh, when i dont use my computer , screen goes black |
| 21:23.36 | Hail_Spacecake | I'm thinking of going back to 3 if this and a few other nagging problems don't get solved |
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| 21:24.21 | Psi-Jack | OKay. KDE4, SystemSettings>Advanced>Autostart |
| 21:24.22 | friedrich| | Hail_Spacecake: I think shortcut stuff didn't work back in kde 4.1 - but I can be wrong. You should try 4.2 beta2 |
| 21:24.28 | LinuxMafia | PhrkOnLsh, i dont know what is it |
| 21:24.34 | Hail_Spacecake | damnit |
| 21:24.41 | Hail_Spacecake | kde 4 is still that buggy? |
| 21:24.44 | PhrkOnLsh | LinuxMafia: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 21:25.00 | Psi-Jack | How does that work, exactly, cause when I put in to start my pulseaudio script which starts pulseaudio up, it constantly continues to load MULTIPLE instances of pulseaudio, never-endingly until I manually kill it. |
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| 21:25.50 | LinuxMafia | PhrkOnLsh, i am using compiz screen saver addon , but when i am not at pc screen goes black along with compzi screen saver and i think that couses compiz to crash , so i dont want my monitro to go black |
| 21:25.53 | Hail_Spacecake | seriously, why the hell was kde 4.1 even released if something that basic was borken? |
| 21:25.58 | Hail_Spacecake | *broken |
| 21:26.12 | Psi-Jack | Hail_Spacecake: Like what? |
| 21:26.32 | Hail_Spacecake | they could've at least entirely disabled the keyboard shortcut changing dialogue box saying 'none of this works, wait for a later version' |
| 21:26.49 | Psi-Jack | Oh yeah, that. |
| 21:26.51 | Hail_Spacecake | Psi-Jack, I can't assign new keyboard shortcuts |
| 21:26.59 | Hail_Spacecake | or rather, I can but then they simply fail to work |
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| 21:27.05 | Psi-Jack | Right. |
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| 21:27.20 | PhrkOnLsh | LinuxMafia: that is configurable in systemsettings->display->power Control, uncheck the box at the top. |
| 21:27.32 | Hail_Spacecake | seriously, why the hell doesn't that work? |
| 21:27.33 | LinuxMafia | PhrkOnLsh, thanks |
| 21:27.46 | Psi-Jack | Anyway.. |
| 21:28.06 | friedrich| | Hail_Spacecake: come on, take your whining to somewhere else. 4.2 is about to be released. Give the beta2 a try, it's really working good. |
| 21:28.13 | Psi-Jack | About my issue with Autostart. Why in the heck would it start a constant loop of pulseaudio instances? |
| 21:28.29 | friedrich| | Psi-Jack: maybe your script is borked? |
| 21:28.39 | Psi-Jack | friedrich|: No, it works fine. |
| 21:28.41 | PhrkOnLsh | Hail_Spacecake: It (kb shortcuts) works in OpenSUSE 11.0's 4.1.3 |
| 21:28.59 | LinuxMafia | PhrkOnLsh, it is off , i think that is because of xorg |
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| 21:29.07 | PhrkOnLsh | hrm |
| 21:29.19 | Psi-Jack | friedrich|: All it does is start pulseaudio --realtime, doesn't even background it, cause KDE itself does that, obviously. |
| 21:29.31 | PhrkOnLsh | then play around in sax2 a bit? (after backing up /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a safe location) |
| 21:29.52 | Hail_Spacecake | I seem to have version 4.1.3-1. arch linux |
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| 21:32.19 | Hail_Spacecake | in any case, I'd like to have some window manager at least open while I figure out how to install beta2 |
| 21:32.38 | Hail_Spacecake | so how do I start a new X session on the next virtual console with a different wm? |
| 21:33.02 | Psi-Jack | friedrich|: Any other options? |
| 21:33.25 | friedrich| | well, if you claim your script is correct, I have no idea what can be wrong. |
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| 21:34.31 | Hail_Spacecake | I know it's a fairly simple thing to do but damned if I can remember how |
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| 21:36.02 | danuthaiduc | why doesn't KDE integrate with compiz instead of reinventing it? |
| 21:36.06 | arkascha | which package/class provides the standard save-file/open-file dialogues ? |
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| 21:37.08 | PhilRod | danuthaiduc: basically because kwin is an extremely mature codebase for a window manager, while compiz is just some effects |
| 21:37.20 | PhilRod | (exaggerating of course, but that's basically it) |
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| 21:37.26 | danuthaiduc | oh |
| 21:37.53 | SSJ_GZ | Plus, people have stepped up to write effects for kwin, and it would be silly to turn down their contributions. |
| 21:38.09 | SSJ_GZ | GNOME are doing the same thing with metacity. |
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| 21:38.16 | marko | hi |
| 21:38.21 | danuthaiduc | ok |
| 21:38.30 | danuthaiduc | i hope you are doing the right thing |
| 21:39.00 | marko | can i ask a question about dbus? |
| 21:39.32 | SSJ_GZ | arkascha: KFileWidget, IIRC, bit I might be wrong. |
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| 21:40.14 | SSJ_GZ | *but |
| 21:41.01 | marko | dbus question: is org.kde.screensaver /ScreenSaver org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.GetSessionIdleTime working? What is consider idle in this case? |
| 21:44.07 | marko | *considered |
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| 21:46.23 | LinuxMafia | PhrkOnLsh, i had to do "xset s noblank" |
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| 21:48.20 | PhrkOnLsh | LinuxMafia: gg |
| 21:50.41 | aib | in KDE 4 terminal my backspace key has the expected behavior of delete with the default keyboard layout |
| 21:50.47 | aib | anyone know why that might be? |
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| 21:51.10 | aib | in other words, when i type backspace, it deletes the next character forward, rather than deleting the previous character |
| 21:52.30 | aib | also, it is obviously a bug that Ctrl+b is mapped to "add bookmark" |
| 21:52.39 | aib | this is a readline keyboard shortcut, it should not be overridden by your terminal |
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| 21:55.20 | marko__ | hey folks. On which channel to ask about dbus method not working? |
| 21:55.26 | genpfault | how do I use icewm themes in kde4? |
| 21:55.27 | shevy | when i start a new tab in konsole, it has the name "Shell No.4" etc.. is there a way to have no name instead? |
| 21:56.11 | aib | shevy, i can't recall the particular setting, but it's something you can set in your .bashrc (or equivalent) |
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| 21:56.40 | shevy | hmm in bashrc a setting for konsole? |
| 21:56.54 | aib | well yes |
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| 22:10.32 | linuksamiko | hej everyone, I'm using the kde4.2 beta2 and today when I started kontact it started up in some kind of fullscreen mode. I don't know how to get back to a regular window mode. does anybody know what I did wrong? |
| 22:11.30 | gkiagia | what do you mean fullscreen mode? |
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| 22:16.51 | linuksamiko | gkiagia: there is no window decoration at all and it fits the whole screen |
| 22:17.11 | gkiagia | linuksamiko: only with kontact? |
| 22:17.16 | linuksamiko | yes |
| 22:17.18 | gkiagia | and... do you use compiz? |
| 22:17.22 | linuksamiko | yes |
| 22:17.31 | gkiagia | probably a compiz bug then |
| 22:17.32 | kdepepo | linuksamiko, Shift+Ctrl+F usually |
| 22:18.44 | linuksamiko | kdepepo: ctrl-shift-f acts like the program that is open in kontact (for example for akregator it means to add a new feed) |
| 22:19.28 | linuksamiko | But other programs act just fine (for example okular) |
| 22:19.43 | gkiagia | first make sure that the decoration is not hidden above the screen. use alt+drag to move the window down |
| 22:19.59 | gkiagia | if it doesn't have any decoration at all, it's a compiz bug |
| 22:20.17 | gkiagia | as it works fine with kwin |
| 22:22.04 | linuksamiko | got to try that right know I'm gnome and I would have blamed gnome or compiz if I had the same problems with other kde4 apps or if I had this problems from the beginning but it just started today (without knowing what has happened) |
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| 22:24.37 | linuksamiko | I'll be right back to see how it looks in KDE |
| 22:24.55 | boloco | hi, all |
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| 22:28.42 | linuksamiko | well I should have checked kwin first. That works (of course) |
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| 22:41.33 | sandfold | hey all in kde3 used to be able to use kdialog command with a special startDir, some name prepended with ':' character to get it to remember startDir's across kdialog executions.. it doesn't work in kde4. anyone know if the syntax changed or it's just broken or what |
| 22:44.58 | danielw_ | I'm using kde4.2 beta 2 and in dolphin if I start typing the name of the document or folder, dolphin does not scroll down to the slected item |
| 22:45.05 | gkiagia | sandfold: I guess the syntax should be the same as in the KFileDialog class... that is "kfiledialog:///<keyword>" |
| 22:45.05 | danielw_ | how can I fix that? |
| 22:45.20 | gkiagia | sandfold: I have no idea how it used to be in kde3 |
| 22:46.14 | gkiagia | danielw_: maybe use the filter function? (ctrl+I) |
| 22:47.16 | hang3r | danielw_, I am having the same problem, however occasionally it will work, but sometimes not. Don't use Dolphin in Beta 2 it seems buggy |
| 22:47.23 | danielw_ | gkiagia, that works as a work-around but the other behavior is a bug, I would consider |
| 22:47.51 | danielw_ | hang3r, what should I use? |
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| 22:48.16 | SSJ_GZ | danielw_: svn |
| 22:49.24 | danielw_ | SSJ_GZ, is there an svn repository for ubuntu? |
| 22:49.36 | SSJ_GZ | danielw_: Project NEON |
| 22:51.21 | danielw_ | SSJ_GZ, sounds fun! How often should I update? |
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| 22:51.47 | SSJ_GZ | danielw_: As often as possible :) Note: I've never actually used it myself. |
| 22:51.54 | sandfold | gkiagia: hey thanks that is working well enough to do for now. kde3's kdialog would recognize just :keyword |
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| 23:19.22 | FiNeX | goodnight |
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| 23:22.26 | x_link | Hi |
| 23:22.37 | x_link | Doesn't KDE have any own mail-client? |
| 23:24.32 | Ace2016_- | kmail |
| 23:24.47 | x_link | Alright. Thanks |
| 23:25.41 | x_link | Hurmm....I don't have it. |
| 23:26.57 | x_link | I had kmail, but not in kmenu. |
| 23:26.59 | x_link | brb |
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| 23:30.32 | knubbe | hello. my dolphin has stopped working (it crashes when i start it) so i wonder if its possible to make konqueror default? (im using kde4.1, kubuntu 8.10) |
| 23:31.14 | ThomasPeter | How can I insert html in kmail? |
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| 23:34.59 | mschiff | does anybody know the status of kphotoalbum for kde4? |
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