IRC log for #kde on 20081221

00:01.05DaSkreechGrr I can' get plasma to make shortcuts stick
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00:09.45stonedin konqueror 3.5.9 my menus are stale showing old entries from programs that do not exist
00:09.48stonedhow can I upate it?
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00:10.15stonedI do update-menus but that only works on debian menu, I open kmenu editor, I and just save it without editing it hoping perhaps that might cause it to update
00:10.18stonedbut no dice
00:10.19stonedplease adive
00:10.25stonedhey that rhymed
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00:27.02Dexhttp://www.xpango.com?ref=91588887
00:27.05Dexhttp://www.xpango.com?ref=91588887
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00:37.09ner0xAny cd writing software for kde4?
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00:40.05DaSkreechno
00:40.55bgmikisomehere compile KDE4 from svn?
00:41.11bgmikisomeone ...sry
00:41.15erik-kdid
00:41.38bgmikiwhat version gcc u have?
00:41.49erik-k4.1.2
00:42.01bgmikithx very much
00:42.06erik-kyw
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00:42.39tueDaSkreech: sorry, pressed alt-tab and kde hanged.
00:42.46DaSkreechhung
00:42.50DaSkreechcoughs
00:44.07tueDaSkreech: hung even! menu.lst says (tada!) that im running kubuntu 8.04 using kernel 2.6.24....
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00:45.14icheishviliHi, can someone help me with taglib?  I'm having a problem where it repeatedly reports that the picture frame that I am trying to create is smaller than 5 bytes.
00:45.36icheishviliI think that I'm reading the png from disk correctly...
00:46.39tueDaSkreech: im just going to change that to the right kernel version and reboot. that aught to do it.
00:48.45DaSkreechtue: I think you jumped chans
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01:27.12g-hennuxhi!
01:28.07g-hennuxhow long is nepomuk intended to run before my home dir (~40G) is read completely? nepomukservices runs at >90% cpu usage for some hours now
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01:29.13g-hennuxand afterwards, is there any fulltext search in my files that i could use?
01:29.36DaSkreechnepomuksearch:/
01:30.18g-hennuxDaSkreech: this shows me four folders ("Recent Files" etc.) which are ll empty
01:30.21g-hennuxll->all
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01:39.04KTheoremI have a strange problem that no-one else has been able to give me any advice about. When I turn on Desktop Effects using OpenGL, eventually my system complains that there are too many files open and refuses to open any more (including programs and new logins from another terminal). Doing some sleuthing on my own I have discovered that all of my file descriptors are being used up. Turning off desktop effects stops the number of open
01:39.05KTheoremdescriptors from rising but they are never given back. I am running Fedora 10 x86_64 on a ThinkPad T61 with intel graphics.
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01:40.26DaSkreechKTheorem: #kwin
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01:44.22Traveler1hey
01:44.27Traveler1im using the new kde
01:44.37Traveler1but i REALLY dislike the whole plasmid thing
01:44.42Traveler1is it possible to disable this?
01:46.27DaSkreechTraveler1: Sure kquitapp plasma
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01:52.54DaSkreechArgh WHy is Konqueror's Drop target so small?
01:53.47Jucatokonqueror has a drop target?
01:54.39DaSkreechYes
01:55.14Jucatowhere?
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01:55.21DaSkreechThe tab
01:55.51DaSkreechIf I drag a URL onto Konqui the only valid spots are the URL bar or the tab and only the tab will actually go the URL
01:55.58DaSkreechwhy can't I drop it on the page?
01:56.13Jucatoah.. I was thinking of kget-like drop target
01:56.17Jucatobut hm...
01:57.01Jucatodropping a url (from a web page?) to the url bar works here. opens a new tab
01:57.08DaSkreechYeah
01:57.31DaSkreechtry dragging http://jucato.org to the web page
01:58.01Jucatoworks in 4.1
01:58.13DaSkreechDoesn't in 4.2 it seems
01:58.27DaSkreechRegressions suck
01:58.57DaSkreechUnless that was intended though I doubt it
01:59.13Jucatobko is great for regressions ;)
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01:59.58DaSkreechI'm going to try ascertain if it's really a regression or I'm doing something stupid first
02:01.07Jucatowell, good luck.
02:01.11Jucatohits the hay
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02:04.49DaSkreechWhat did the hay do to you?
02:07.38Traveler1is there a way to disable the plasmid feature in kde?
02:07.50Traveler1so the desktop literally shows whaever is in the desktop folder?
02:08.19drantins/plasmid/plasmoid/
02:08.20Traveler1and i dont have those vista-like sidebars for adding applets etc?
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02:08.29Traveler1how can i disable that?
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02:14.15stonedhey
02:14.27stoned1) I uninstall kde3
02:14.34stoned2) I install kde4
02:14.40stoned3) I don't like kde4
02:14.44stoned4) I remove kde4
02:14.51stoned5) I install kde3
02:15.11stoned6) now my Klipper if of kde4 and I can't seem to figure how to make my Klipper of 3.5
02:15.17stonedplease advise I am on debian
02:16.54DaSkreechTraveler1: oooh what version of KDE are you on?
02:17.12DaSkreechstoned: Remove your klipper config?
02:17.19DaSkreechand #debian-kde
02:17.38GentleTraveler1: kde-4.2 will have a classic desktop mode
02:18.05stonedhey ok
02:18.11stonedI kill a klipper icon
02:18.15AnonycatWhat ever happened to the zip:/ ioslave in KDE4?
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02:18.17stonedI alt+f2 and run klipper
02:18.23stonedi am back in klipper 3.5 thank you
02:18.40DaSkreechAnonycat: maintained by ark ark is lightly maintained
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02:27.16ABCDis anyone else having problems getting the LCD Weather Station applet to work (KDE 4.1.85, kdeplasma-addons)? It won't let me select a data source
02:32.46DaSkreechYeah me either
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02:44.18luke-jrIs it possible to require an extra password for a virtual desktop?
02:44.44drantinis there a way to group items in the task manager plasmoid arbitrarily? e.g. leave kopete's main window alone but group all the chat windows?
02:48.49gr1mlapI don't think so, but as a work around you could enable tabbing in the chat window for kopete
02:49.25drantinah, well... I was just using that as an example. I'm not actually using kopete atm
02:50.03ABCDdrantin: according to the options, there appears to be a way, but I cannot figure out how to make it work
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02:52.53stonedI LOVE KDE 3.5
02:53.00stonedhello world!
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02:54.29erik-kYaaay, konqueror 4 has crash-session-restore!
02:54.32erik-khugs everyone
02:55.34KTheoremDoes anyone know of a way to make sure one of the pages *doesn't* restore when you recover from a crash?
02:55.55KTheoremIt's annoying to have a page crash konq and then not be able to restore because it just crashes it again
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03:12.32DaSkreechKTheorem: A) you can just not restore b) it should keep a track of how many times it's crashed and stop loading when it does it a certain number of times c) unless you have really really fast net you can just close the tab or stop it loading d) If you have really fast net plug out the network cord
03:13.10tangentcollisionhello
03:13.26tangentcollisionwhat is the partition manager in fedora?
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03:15.29DaSkreech#fedora
03:18.36tangentcollisionergh
03:18.47tangentcollisioncrap, stupid default client
03:18.53tangentcollisionsorry for intruding, lol
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03:28.02tangentcollisionis there a standard kde partition manager?
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03:29.10DaSkreechno
03:29.25DaSkreechThough it would be nice if someone did development on QtParted
03:33.08CoJaBo-EeeWhat do I need to do to connect to a wireless network in Kubuntu? Knetworkmanager does not even acknowledge that it is trying to connect.
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03:35.24ninjaslimis there a glitch in the kmix tray icon, it causes the systray to just like whiteout
03:38.43luke-jrprobably
03:38.48luke-jrsystem tray stuff is weird
03:40.00ninjaslimlol i'm hoping it's fixed in kde 4.2
03:40.23luke-jrsystem tray stuff is low level X stuff
03:40.26luke-jrnot KDE stuff
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03:45.18ninjaslimright but is the icon drawing not kde stuff?
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03:45.36ninjaslimand also what kind of burning software is good ofr kde 4, i mean k3b will require kde3 stuff
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03:50.19sandeepkumar047hi
03:50.37ninjaslimbrb
03:50.40ninjaslimsorry
03:51.12sandeepkumar047How can i join to a specific channel?
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03:54.41sandeepkumar047Hi, any one can tell me how to join to a specific channel?
03:55.26sandeepkumar047Join
03:55.32sandeepkumar047sorry
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03:56.09luke-jrhow did you get here/
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04:00.15DaSkreechsandeepkumar047: Where do you want to join ?
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04:00.40sandeepkumar047##c
04:01.10DaSkreechsandeepkumar047: /join ##c
04:02.20sandeepkumar047it is telling: "Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel"
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04:06.27sandeepkumar047DaSkreech.. Can you help me in login into ##c channel?
04:06.53DaSkreechsandeepkumar047: Login or join ?
04:07.00ninjaslimsandeepkumar047: you need to register on freenode first
04:07.42sandeepkumar047Yes. Registered. I got a mail telling to give a command for verifying registeration.
04:08.09sandeepkumar047mail told to give this commnd: "/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sandeepkumar047 ffeqggijsagl"
04:08.16drantinsandeepkumar047: you need to identify with nickserv too
04:08.37sandeepkumar047how ?
04:08.42drantin<PROTECTED>
04:08.53drantin<PROTECTED>
04:08.56drantinis also good
04:08.57sandeepkumar047okay.. i will try wait.
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04:09.37sandeepkumar047yes it identified me..
04:10.00sandeepkumar047i think now i can give the command told in the mail.
04:10.11drantin2010:00 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- sandeepkumar047 has NOT COMPLETED registration verification
04:11.04sandeepkumar047How to complete the registration? Confused... ;-(
04:11.19drantindid you give the command you were supposed to?
04:11.36drantin<PROTECTED>
04:11.43sandeepkumar047I should give it in #kde or ##c?
04:11.52drantinanywhere
04:11.59sandeepkumar047okay.
04:12.00drantinjust don't have a space before the /
04:12.07sandeepkumar047okay
04:12.16drantinit doesn't go to the channel anyway /msg makes it go to the nick after that command
04:13.00drantinalso, don't irc as root, some channels don't like it; and it's not very good security practice
04:13.03sandeepkumar047yes.. now i logged in.. thanks for help
04:13.46sandeepkumar047okay. how can i log in not as root?
04:14.38drantinirc from a normal user account instead of loggin in as root; but this is really offtopic for #kde ...
04:14.52drantin#freenode would be better
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04:16.03sandeepkumar047okay. i shall login as not as root.
04:16.56sandeepkumar047drantin thank you very much..
04:17.14drantinnp
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04:48.46brettwI'm taking my first tiny steps into KDE4 and have a problem with the panel.  I'm learning how to customise it to my liking but in the process have addes spacers.  Now I can delete them.  Can someone tell me the secret?
04:49.06brettwSorry I meane now I CAN'T delete them.
04:49.21DaSkreechHow did you get spacers?
04:49.33brettwI't one of the selectable widgets.
04:49.55brettwOnce added there's no little minus sign to click.
04:50.54KTheoremCan you right click on it and select "Remove this <widgetname>?
04:51.13brettwNo.  It just gived otpion re the panel.
04:51.41brettw(wow my typing is really bad.  Too much coffee)
04:52.28DaSkreechWhat? I don't have that :(
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04:52.39brettwWhat?  Coffee?  :-)
04:52.59brettwDoyou mean spacer widgets?
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04:53.59DaSkreechYes
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05:04.37zceim having a strange behaviour with konsole, gnome-terminal and xterm.. they dont seem to agree with my page up/down keys
05:05.44zcekonsole appears to ignore them.. xterm ignore shift+pgup to scroll, but pgup is ok (to browse a manpage for example).. and gnome-terminal works both with and without shift (ie, terminal scroll and manpage scroll)
05:06.07zceanybody has any clue about this?
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05:09.32zceand Eterm is like xterm, but pgdn on "man" (actually "less") gives me strange characters
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05:10.06drantinzce: some apps understand pgup/pgdown
05:10.35drantinless (used for man pages) understands them
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05:13.42zcedrantin: yes, but the problem is that it appears that konsole is not sending them
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05:16.29naught101I'm running konqueror 4.1.85, and thunbnails aren't working
05:16.47Alan_Mwhy does kde4 use a kde3.5 version of Konversation instead of making a new one for kde4?
05:17.07naught101they are working in the plasma desktopo widget though
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05:17.41naught101but not in dolphin
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05:19.38PhrkOnLshAlan_M: Because konqeuer in kde4 has kinda been superceded by dolphin ^_^
05:20.42Alan_MPhrkOnLsh: did i say konqueror?
05:20.44naught101PhrkOnLsh: no it hasn't, and he's not talking about konqueror, but konversation
05:20.56Alan_Mnaught101: thanks for reading my message :)
05:21.02PhrkOnLshwow, sorry
05:21.07PhrkOnLshI am /really/ drunk right now...
05:21.11naught101hehe
05:21.26naught101don't drink and compute!
05:21.28Alan_Mwas like...um..am i just stupid and forgot what it was called? lol
05:21.29PhrkOnLshkonversation kde4 port is underway iirc
05:21.55Alan_MPhrkOnLsh: oh, ok so it hasnt been released yet, thats cool, i was just wondering.
05:22.07PhrkOnLshbut i"ll shut up now and fuck with why NVIDIA kernel mod won't connect with ACPI
05:22.07Alan_Mthought i was behind the times :)
05:24.03naught101does everyone else get image thumbnails in konqueror?
05:25.12DaSkreechnaught101: I do
05:25.35naught101ok, does anyone else NOT get thumbnails?
05:25.45naught101and know why
05:26.42DaSkreechnaught101: did you press thumbnails ?
05:26.54DaSkreechI mean preview
05:27.00naught101er.. press?
05:27.15naught101ah, ok
05:27.23naught101I assumed it would be on by default
05:27.39DaSkreechNo
05:27.48DaSkreechIt eats a fai amount of hard drive space
05:27.50DaSkreechfair
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05:28.28naught101ahh, true
05:28.59naught101wow, that's gotta be the first time that (k)ubuntu's gone for space saving over eye-candy...
05:29.10naught101guess it might change by the time jaunty is released.
05:29.31DaSkreechit's a one button press to turn it on
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05:39.49naught101yeah, I think it's great
05:40.01naught101just wasn't used to it
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05:47.00mdeandahas anybody here been able to get flash10 to work on konq 3.5.x? i've seen online that people are having trouble with it on the kde4 line..
05:47.47justyb11mdeanda: The 64-bit flash worked just fine on Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1
05:48.29mdeandais the 64 bit one flash10 also? if so, i may be ready to switch to 64bit finally.. hehe
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05:50.14justyb11mdeanda:  Yeah the 64-bit flash is flash 10.  Careful it is marked alpha but I've had no problems with it
05:50.50mdeandaits strange though. b/c the flash10 works fine on firefox.. but konq just doesn't even show it on the list of plugins...
05:50.53mdeanda(yes i did a scan)
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05:51.16justyb11mdeanda: Oh yeah that's because of a known problem.
05:51.44mdeandai launched konq from command line, but there are no logs. how do i see logs?
05:52.12mdeandajustyb11: ahh.. which is the last version known to work? and how can i download it?
05:53.09justyb11mdeanda: Well if you want to keep what you've got.  I think you need to download an old version of flash
05:53.56mdeandahmm. i guess it might be the time to try upgrading to kde4. :)
05:54.07mdeandaany pitfalls i should expect?
05:54.39justyb11mdeanda: Not saying it's perfect but I've not run into any.
05:55.03mdeandahehe.. as long as it runs flash10. :) my wife is starting to nag that many sites don't work..
05:55.03justyb11Ah ha!  I remeber it now!
05:55.41justyb11Flash 10 uses XEmbed.  Konqueror does not implement this.
05:55.49justyb11This is why it fails.
05:56.14mdeandaahh.. interesting..
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05:56.29justyb11You can try this however.
05:56.30mdeandadoes xembed fix the transparent flash problems on linux?
05:56.43mdeanda(where you can't see behind flash objects)
05:56.44justyb11mdeanda:  http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/
05:57.44justyb11The Xembed is meant to fix a number of issues.
05:58.39mdeandawoah. kmplayer has xembed? so i'm instead embedding kmplayer to play the flash that is inside kmplayer? that seems cool..
05:59.01justyb11yeah it is worth a try.
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06:14.25arnoldk67Hello, how can i configure the icon that goes with a special mimetype? For example I want to change the icon that dolphin displays for odt and other opendocument files.
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06:15.24DaSkreechkonqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File associations -> ODt -> Icon
06:15.31DaSkreechor right click the Icon and change it
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06:18.56arnoldk67DaSkreech: That's exactly my problem. It worked under KDE3 but now it doesn't I can't click the icon
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06:20.23Emesshey guys, in kde if i have autologin enabled, how do I have it so I can just ctrl-alt-8 to switch to VC/8 and it will present me with a login instead of a blank screen? I run a media centre app in VC/7 so can't just log out of it
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06:22.51justyb11Emess: You'll need to start a second X session on boot up.
06:23.26arnoldk67DaSkreech: Do you know if there is somewhere a config file that I can change with a texteditor, because on KDE4 the icon isn't a button on my KDE4/opensuse
06:23.29JucatoEmess: by "login" do you mean console login?
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06:23.34Emessjustyb11, how would I go about that?
06:23.41EmessJucato, no, a kdm login
06:24.08JucatoEmess: Start new session from the K Menu?
06:24.17ksnashhow do you readd missing taskbar?
06:24.18Emessthere is no kmenu
06:24.37DaSkreecharnoldk67: Hmm I changed my icon from there just a few days ago
06:24.49Jucatoksnash: right-click on panel or click on cashew/plasma icon -> Add Widgets -> Task Manager
06:24.50EmessJucato, its setup to autologin to kde with a desktop file in autostart to load the MPC app, so there is no kmenu as such
06:25.14Jucatohm... ok...
06:26.13Emessjustyb11, so just edit a second kdm instance into inittab?
06:27.00ksnashadding taskmanager is not adding taskbar.  I have floating menu and systray though.
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06:27.51Jucatoksnash: the "taskbar" is the task manager. unless you mean "panel". right-click on desktop -> Add Panel
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06:28.44ksnashit just has add widgets.
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06:30.11ksnashnot as bad though with taskman plasma deciding to come up on screen.
06:32.50justyb11Emess: You can always put a command in /etc/rc.local
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06:33.07justyb11Emess: You can always put a command in /etc/rc.local
06:33.31justyb11Emess: So that it gets executed on boot.
06:33.47justyb11Emess: Don't go messing with inittab.
06:34.19justyb11Emess: Don't go messing with inittab.
06:36.00justyb11Emess: And if you use Kubuntu there is no inittab.
06:36.44EmessArch, not kubuntu
06:37.03Emesswhen i once used kubuntu tho I coudl just swtich to vc8 and it prompted me to login with kdm, i want to have that
06:37.23justyb11Still though.. Don't co messing with inittab if you're not sure what to do.
06:38.03justyb11If you don't mind go for it.
06:38.06Emessaye
06:38.25EmessI know how inittab works, I just dont get what id need to do to have that second kdm prompt
06:40.12Emessok looks liek i borked something anyway
06:42.54justyb11Why can't you just run kdm inside the second session?
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06:45.27justyb11I've gotta get some sleep see ya!
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06:51.15justyb11Emess: You may also want to look up the info on kdmrc file
06:52.13justyb11You'll need to start the second X server and then as kdm starts up it's config file needs to know that it needs to start two local logins.
06:52.38justyb11I didn't remember if I told you that before I left.
06:52.51justyb11Anyway...Later.
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07:13.35mustuin dolphin file browser we see a green + n a red - sign on files n folder when cursor placed over them.. what does it mean?
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07:16.08arnoldk67mustu: You can select and deselect the file there
07:16.46mustuarnoldk67:  whatdeos it mean by giving a file green + or a red -?
07:17.25mustuarnoldk67: oka.. u mean selecting multiple files without using Ctrl...!
07:17.27mustum i ritgh?
07:17.30musturight*
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07:17.41Jucatoselect/deselect
07:17.41mustuk thanx folks:)
07:18.07mustui was wondering if its about making it favourite or bla bla
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07:27.49mfwittenHey guys. I tried installing Fedora 10 with KDE4 on my old PowerBook G4 (500 Mhz, 128 MB RAM --one chip died ;-(, Rage128 GPU) However, I had all sorts of slow downs mostly due to various daemons and who knows what else. Now I've got gentoo installed (much cleaner!) and I've even managed to ensure DR[I | M] is working properly (depth 16). Should I give KDE4 another shot or is it really too much?
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07:32.26mfwittenBueller?
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07:34.59mfwittenOnward to XFCE4
07:35.00mfwittentake care
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07:45.58silv3r_m00nhi there
07:46.00silv3r_m00ni using kate
07:46.44silv3r_m00nsay when i press tab 5 times the cursor moves forward then pressing an enter make the cursor go to start of new line
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07:46.56silv3r_m00nanybody
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07:52.31silv3r_m00nroshan08: so enjoy
07:53.06roshan08silv3r_m00n, how can i enjoy help me out
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07:55.11silv3r_m00nroshan08: hmm right
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07:56.35roshan08silv3r_m00n, does kget have proxy support?
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08:45.51czesterDoes anyone have any howto about using dbus in kde? Because I can't figure out how does it work.
08:46.13czesterI can't even understand the syntax. DCOP was much more easy.
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08:52.22Defense|TwinHi, anyone knows what i can do if my akonadi gives me this error message: "MySQL server default configuration not found." ? my mysql server runs fine... so i dont know what this error means
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09:20.33erik-kAnybody mind if I offer some general feedback on kde4 vs kde3?
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09:58.58thymanyone here?
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09:59.47pinotreejust ask your question
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10:00.44thymwell i installed kdm 4.1.3 and kde 4.1.3. when kdm tarts i get a nvidia splaskcreen, then a blackscreen and a mouse cursor 'loading' then it jsut does bgack to bash
10:01.36thymsplashcreen
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10:05.37freeedrich|thym: distribution?
10:05.47freeedrich|error messages in /var/log/messages?
10:05.52thymgentoo
10:06.25thymno such file, although i think i found what may be the problem. dbus isnt set to start
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10:06.46g-hennuxhi!
10:06.59freeedrich|um?! no /var/log/messages?
10:07.08freeedrich|syslog not running..?
10:07.17g-hennuxin kde 4.2 beta (but also 4.1), why does kmail launch when i start an application launcher (i.e. krunner or lancelot)?
10:07.38g-hennuxalso, when i start kopete, kmail starts, seems to be some kind of "dependency"
10:07.46g-hennuxto search contacts or the like
10:07.49freeedrich|uh?
10:08.02freeedrich|but that should be provided by akonadi.. :)
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10:08.13thymno idea its a fresh install :/
10:08.26freeedrich|try disabling the "contacts" runner and have a look if loading krunner still gives those errors :)
10:08.36g-hennuxfreeedrich|: so it *is* possible that kmail was started (before akonadi) to be able to access certain contacts?
10:09.02g-hennuxfreeedrich|: ah, wait, i do have parts of my contact list on a "imap storage via kmail", would that be the reason?
10:09.04freeedrich|g-hennux: I sounds strange to me. I never encountered such issue.
10:09.15freeedrich|Yeah, maybe.
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10:09.41g-hennuxbut akonadi itself doesn't allow for that kind of storage, as far as i have seen, is that right?
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10:14.47rootwell apparently its fixed, needed to add dbus to default runlevel
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10:24.39sandeepkumarHow to format a ntfs partition and create ext2 partition. what commands to use?
10:24.59bonsaikittensandeepkumar: man fdisk, man mkfs
10:25.20sandeepkumarokay. i shall try those commands.
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10:25.30marcoa question with strigi in kde 4.2 beta 2
10:26.01marcoif i tell strigi to index those folders: a,b,c strigi index it correctly
10:26.35marcowhen indexing is end i tell strigi to not index a anymore
10:26.44marcowhy the index element don't godown?
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10:27.08sandeepkumarfdisk and mkfs are not there on my system. How can i install those utilities.?
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10:28.22g-hennuxsandeepkumar: this is not really a kde question... otherwise, check as root, these tools are usually in /usr/sbin, not /usr/bin
10:28.45sandeepkumarokay.
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10:47.17tueHey! Im trying out 4.2 beta to on kubuntu intrepid and it looks really nice and seem very stable. However, it has a really strange issue: if i press eg. alt-tab or alt-f2 nothing happends except applications no longer recieve keyboard input and the mouse behaves as if the alt key is pressed all the time. ctrl-alt-backspace still works though, but needless to say its quite frustrating :-). problem persist with windows effects on and off and was not
10:47.18tuethere with 4.0. or 4.1.3.
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10:49.04tueDoes anyone have any idea what the problem can be? i have tried to search bug reports, etc. but so far i have not heard of others having this problem so it must be a configuration thing. i have tried to remove .kde, .kderc and nuking/recreating xorg.conf.
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10:49.35g-hennuxtue: i believe there are big problems with shortcuts...
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10:50.14tueg-hennux: so its something other are experiencing as well?
10:50.15g-hennuxtue: some global shortcuts work for one task, others don't, i can configure my "Media Play" key, but not "Media Next", etc.
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10:50.23g-hennuxtue: not exactly your problem
10:51.03g-hennuxtue: maybe yours has a completely different origin
10:51.21tueg-hennux: yah.. well, its that kind of things i would expect with a beta release. but its seems kindof drastic that i get *no* keyboard input whatsoever if i just press alt-tab :-)
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10:52.28tueshould i file this as a kde bug report or just assume its a packaging issue from kubuntu?
10:52.55g-hennuxdo you see the window list when pressing alt-tab?
10:53.07tueno. nor do i see krunner if i press alt-f2.
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10:53.42g-hennuxok... well, might even be an X problem, or opengl or... hm, yeah maybe file as a bug
10:54.10tuehowever, i if i start krunner from the command line it is displayed.. i think i get the same keyboard lockup though (i wont try it now since i would have to logout)
10:54.55tuewith fglrx and an ati x1300 that is not a very exotic explanation :-D
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11:03.29BtbNIs there a kde4-version of kile?
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11:07.14zakwhat command shall i use to determine what kde4 version am i using?i used to use this oon kde3.5 ''kde-config --version | grep KDE''
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11:09.41freeedrich|zak: cat $(kde4-config --version) :)
11:10.31stanley_Hi I have a PCMIA Wireless card for my laptop, should it run automatically or do I typically have to install it??
11:10.47freeedrich|stanley_: wrong channel to ask I believe. :)
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11:11.35stanley_hmmm really? ok then...
11:13.05tuestanley_: its very likely kubuntu or suse can configure it automatically.
11:14.15farhad_hfi have problems with compiling kdebase (svn-trunk) http://pastebin.ca/1290726
11:14.16tuestanley_: when i was using gentoo wireless was allways a question of black magic and virgin blood, but since i began using kubuntu it has allways worked out of the box.
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11:14.36stanley_oh really??
11:14.50stanley_I am using sabayon and my wireless is really a pain in the ass
11:14.58stanley_maybe i am going to have to think about kubuntu
11:15.04freeedrich|stanley_: well. Is the interface and driver present?
11:15.18freeedrich|stanley_: no, don't do that. kunbuntu is a very bad choice.
11:15.53stanley_i don't have the card with me right now, i was just curious i am going home tommorow and i can get a usb wirless dongle reallyc heap where I am now
11:16.02stanley_wondering if i should buy that instead
11:16.16stanley_so life just sux all around huh
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11:17.32freeedrich|stanley_: well. It's just a question whether you got the drivers loaded and working and the interface up. Then you can just install wicd for example and that will take care of configuring and connecting..
11:17.47stanley_yeeaa??
11:17.48stanley_ok
11:18.01stanley_well i prefer having a pcmcia card to be honest...so i'm going to try
11:18.27stanley_its a linksys card are pcmcia's usually a problem in linux? or do they configure as automatically as everything esle??
11:20.26freeedrich|They should, if its configured in the kernel and if there is driver support. Go google that thing up and see if there are reports about using it on linux.
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11:24.34zakfreeedrich|: i need to write this on my superkaramba theme
11:24.47Psi-JackWhy couldn't KDE keep dcop for basic use to interoperate with dbus? WHY WHY WHY?!
11:25.01zak""cat: 4.4.3: No such file or directory"
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11:34.04zak_freeedrich|:  it was rather ''kde4-config --version | grep KDE''
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11:37.11Psi-JackSeriously! Can't KDE devs make like a dcop alternative? I liked dcop because it was simple, easy, and it just plain worked.
11:38.07tueis that a question?
11:38.48bonsaikittenPsi-Jack: interoperability ... as gnome wouldn't adapt dcop since they didn't invent it kde assimilated their dbus madness
11:39.15bonsaikittena step back in my opinion, but how else can you get things to interact well :(
11:39.17Psi-JackI know, but, couldn't dcop be made to interoperate with dbus?
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11:39.54Dark_ApostropheHello, I grabbed ksplashx (via svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/ksplash/ksplashx )
11:40.05Psi-JackAutomating things in dbus for just basic use is like coding an entire webserver. dcop was simple, fast, and did the job needed.
11:40.06pinotreePsi-Jack: the question rather is: what are your concrete problems with it?
11:40.06Dark_ApostropheCan anyone please tell me how to compile it? I tried making a directory called build, then doing cmake ..
11:40.13Dark_ApostropheBut it creates no makefile
11:40.16Psi-Jackpinotree: What I'd just said.
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11:40.37pinotreePsi-Jack: no, you haven't said any actual problem you have with dbus
11:40.44Psi-JackAutomating things in dbus for just basic use is like coding an entire webserver. dcop was simple, fast, and did the job needed.
11:41.14Psi-Jackdcop appname catname command
11:41.31Psi-Jackhow hard was that to do? DBus's alternative takes a lot more.
11:41.33pinotreeqdbus org.kde.appname /InterfaceName command
11:41.34tueusing my new tv is like building a space shuttle. my old tv was easy like sunshine...
11:41.55tuethis is a clear indication that sony sucks.
11:41.56Psi-Jackqdbus?
11:42.01pinotreeqdbus.
11:42.11Dark_ApostropheAnyone? =)
11:42.25Psi-JackHmmm, I wasn't aware of qdbus, but perhaps that may be a good alternative at least.
11:42.46pinotreeDark_Apostrophe: you cannot compile it standalone (and why would you, anyway?)
11:42.52Dark_ApostrophePsi-Jack: qdbus works as a replacement for dcop - I updated my shell scripts with it when switching to KDE4.
11:43.04Psi-JackDark_Apostrophe: yeah. I'll look into it.
11:43.15Psi-Jackpinotree: Thanks. That may help a lot. ;)
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11:43.28Psi-JackCourse, I gotta re-lookup a lot of things now. But ahh well.
11:43.47pinotreePsi-Jack: lesson of the day: *before* whining against something, get the actual facts _right_.
11:44.04Psi-JackHow goes KDE's progress towards integrating KDE desktop enhancements into Firefox 3's newer ability to adapt it? ;D
11:44.14pinotreeask in #firefox
11:44.42Psi-Jackpinotree: It's up up to Firefox people to do it, They're not so interested in it. I wouldn't think. They made the feature available so it COULD be done.
11:44.50Psi-Jacknot up*
11:45.26pinotreewe don't develop not provide support for firefox, sorry
11:45.44Psi-JackI'm not ASKING for support for it. :p
11:46.12Psi-JackI'm asking if KDE's going to move on making use of Firefox's new desktop environment interopability features added since 3.0
11:46.12pinotreeyou're ASKING something about firefox -- we know NOTHING about it
11:46.30pinotreewe won't
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11:46.44Psi-Jackpinotree: You speak for all the KDE developers?
11:46.57pinotreei am a kde developer
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11:48.45Psi-JackWell, I think that just made up my mind then. If KDE's developers don't care to make use of Firefox's new desktop environment extensions so they could extend it to work more fluidly with KDE with native KDE widgets and dialogs, and konquerer sucks for browsing with, I have no need for KDE anymore. Thank you.
11:49.16pinotreeKDE's browser is konqueror, so KDE supports it
11:49.27tueyour wellcome :-D
11:49.38Psi-Jacknods. "And yet everyone uses Firefox because it actually works with HTML standards.
11:49.42pinotreeif anybody wants to do that firefox integration, it's their choise
11:50.13pinotreedon't make me laugh, firefox does the same as IE when we speak about "standards"
11:50.35puslingPsi-Jack: wrong.  firefox is more bug for bug compatible with internetexplorer than  khtml is.  The previous times I have reported bugs in khtml about rendering issues, it has actually been a firefox and ie bug.
11:50.37pinotreeown extensions that people use thinking they are "standards", own bugs people rely upon
11:50.37Psi-JackFirefox itself supports 90% or more of the W3C standards. IE less.
11:50.38Jucato"desktop environment integration"? what's that?
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11:52.09tuePsi-Jack: with firefox various extensions usually work better out of the box than with konqueorer, but this is more of an packaging issue....
11:52.56Psi-JackHmm
11:53.07tuePsi-Jack: that, and the address bar thingy is the only thing that makes me use firefox over konqueorer..
11:53.23Psi-JackHeh, the address bar thingy? heh
11:53.50Jucato* Psi-Jack nods. "And yet everyone uses Firefox because it actually works with HTML standards. <--- definitely not *everyone*. just "a lot". and a lot of those don't use Firefox because of "standard compliance". a lot use it actually because it works around non-standards compliant webpages. and still a large number of users use it just because of extensions, not because of standards compliance
11:53.52tuethe superbar or whatever its called
11:54.35Psi-JackOKay.. Side question. Kmail is part of KDE, correct?
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11:55.14tueyep
11:55.33Psi-JackDoes it's IMAP implementation support IMAP IDLE as googlemail's IMAP servers support?
11:56.49Psi-JackSo you don't have to technically keep connecting every so often, it just stays idle and receives updates as they come in.
11:58.54Psi-JackSeems to always bee the same answer to that question. No answer at all. :(
11:59.17EvilGuruIs there any way to debug dolpin, so when I execute it from the command line I can get the console output?
11:59.18tuei dont know anything about kmail.
11:59.41tuehave you tried google?
12:00.04Psi-Jacktue: Yeah. I see lots of people asking about it. Bug reports.
12:00.35Psi-JackMostly pretty dated back
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12:01.32tuewell, i dont really know about it. back pre-4.0 kmails codebase was quite a complicated thing, and that might still be true. so unfortunately it doesnt seem like its resieving a lot of attention.
12:02.04g-hennuxPsi-Jack: are you asking about IMAP's push-feature?
12:02.05EvilGuruAs SFTP/FISH in Dolphin do not work, they connect to the server, but never ask for a password and I want some debugging output
12:02.19Psi-Jackg-hennux: No, IMAP's IDLE feature, which is PUSH-like. It's not the same, but close.
12:02.25tuei also think thats the reason for mailody, kmail is not the easiest place to start :-)
12:02.45g-hennuxbut kmail is one of the greatest email clients available :-)
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12:02.51g-hennuxat least the best i've ever used
12:02.55Psi-Jackg-hennux: It would be, if it supported IDLE. ;)
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12:03.49g-hennuxPsi-Jack: where are the differences between push and idle?
12:03.51Walex3Psi-Jack: ironically the biggest problem I have with KMail 3 is that it does not have an explic it *disconnect* or so I think.
12:03.51Psi-JackOne thing I like about Thunderbird is you can set it up to not have to keep reconnecting every so often, if it detects idle, it will stay connected and receive IDLE updates. If it disconnects prematurely, it re-connects.
12:04.20Psi-Jackg-hennux: Implementation. PUSH is Microsoft's propriatery Office Exchange stuff.
12:04.34EvilGuruAlso, how can one get the search bar back in Konqeuror? I just get the address bar
12:04.36Psi-JackIMAP IDLE, is specifically for IMAP.
12:04.55g-hennuxPsi-Jack: ah, i see
12:04.57g-hennuxi think :)
12:04.58Walex3An explicit disconnect is quite vital if one's IP address changes frequently.
12:05.07g-hennuxPsi-Jack: have you asked in #kontact?
12:05.18Psi-JackWalex3: Why does it change often?
12:05.44Psi-Jackg-hennux: Why #kontact? This is for Kmail. Kontact is just an address book AFAIK.
12:05.59pinotreeafaik... not
12:06.03Walex3Psi-Jack: that does not matter -- having the abvility to connect/disconnect on request is just the right thing to do, as "automagic" often has unintended
12:06.05g-hennuxPsi-Jack: kontact is an aggregation of kde's PIM programs, including kmail afaik
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12:06.20Psi-JackHmmmm
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12:06.29Psi-JackThis since 4?
12:06.43Walex3effects. Anyhow the IP address changes often because of going from home to office and back, and using various VPNs whioch get a different address every time they are opened.
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12:07.12Psi-JackWalex3: Ahh, gotcha. That makes sense, then.
12:07.32Psi-JackWalex3: Isn't there an offline mode or something?
12:07.36g-hennuxPsi-Jack: no, longer. i mean, actually kontact embeds only the kparts from kmail, korganizer, kabc etc., but this is all part of the pim suite and i think #kontact is the right place then
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12:08.08Dark_ApostropheHello, I grabbed ksplashx (via svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/ksplash/ksplashx )
12:08.08Walex3Psi-Jack: ah yes, I could switch to opffline and then back one to force disconnect and then reconnect. I'll have a look.
12:08.10Psi-Jackg-hennux: Alrighty. Thanks for that info then.
12:08.11Dark_ApostropheCan anyone please tell me how to compile it? I tried making a directory called build, then doing cmake ..
12:08.19pinotreeDark_Apostrophe: again?
12:08.26Psi-JackWalex3: I thought so. ;)
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12:08.43Dark_Apostrophepinotree: Did you tell me how to do it?
12:08.49Dark_Apostrophescrolls back up
12:08.52pinotreeDark_Apostrophe: you cannot compile it standalone (and why would you, anyway?)
12:09.14Dark_ApostropheWell, because I want to be able to use nicer splash screens, from kde-look
12:09.17g-hennuxPsi-Jack: if you discover a way to do that (or if you are willing to implement it and are looking for someone to help), ping me again :)
12:09.24Dark_ApostropheAnd how would I then go about obtaining it?
12:09.58pinotreethere's a misunderstanding on your side: ksplashx is just the engine, shipped already with a standard kde4 installation
12:10.07Dark_ApostropheHmm..
12:10.19Dark_Apostrophestrange that I get an error when I try to run certain splash screens, then
12:10.22pinotreeyou can install themes normally from systemsettings → look → splash screen
12:10.28Psi-Jackg-hennux: Heh. I don't do C++, never got into it. Considering learning it though. Since Pascal, I've mostly focused on interpretted languages, perl, php, python, ruby, etc.. Even how moronic that may sound coming from Pascal and all. ;)
12:10.32Dark_Apostrophe"Unable to start ksplashx"
12:10.36g-hennuxhow can i find out if nepomuk is going crazy? this service runs at 96% cpu all the time and i cannot really see any form of... "progress" or so
12:10.44pinotreeincomplete installation?
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12:10.56Dark_Apostrophepinotree: Beats me.. it's from Debian Experimental
12:11.08pinotreethen #debian-kde is for you
12:12.06andinatorhi guys, i need to know in which file i can place a command to be executed when kdm launches. its kde 4.1.3 and it doesnt work like in kde3 with the Xsetup/Xstartup/Xsession files...
12:12.42g-hennuxandinator: when kdm launches or when kde is started?
12:12.46Dark_Apostrophepinotree: asked
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12:13.12andinatorg-hennux: before i login
12:13.17roothi
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12:13.37andinatorwhen i see the login form it should be launched already
12:13.52g-hennuxandinator: hm, ok, dunno
12:14.04andinatori placed it in /etc/kde4/xinit/xinitrc.common but then its launched after login
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12:15.50g-hennuxandinator: what is your actual problem that you try to solve using that?
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12:23.37neekuhi
12:23.51neekuhow can i copy/paste a file from desktop
12:23.58neekuthere are no right click items there!
12:24.06neekuis new to kde
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12:25.32jazkaadd a folder view plasmoid
12:26.08jazkaright click on the desktop and unlock the widgets if they're locked, and right click again and choose add widgets
12:26.13jazkaand look for folder view
12:26.13neekujazka: how?
12:26.17neekuahaan
12:27.15neekufile watcher maybe?
12:27.20neekuthere's no folder view
12:27.53andinatorg-hennux: id like to run synergy, a tool which shares mouse&keyboard to another pc, it works after logging in, but id like to have it working before so i can type username/password at the other pcs kayboard
12:28.03neekujazka: ^
12:28.07jazkahmm no, it's folder view, what distro are you using? maybe you're missing some package
12:28.17neekususe
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12:28.22neekususe 11
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12:28.49jazkamaybe it is in kde4-plasma-addons
12:29.15g-hennuxandinator: and is it necessary to start with kdm or could it start independent of that?
12:30.01jazkaneeku: ah, and I hope you're not using the 4.0.x release of kde4
12:30.13andinatorg-hennux: i dont know, you might have a look at http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/autostart.html
12:30.18KatagiaHi. I have a little problem with kde4 and opensuse 11.0. When I press the power button settings in kpowersave is ignored. How can I fix this? The button works in console
12:30.49neekujazka: unfortunately i do, but i'm updating it now
12:30.57neekui think it'll last till night
12:31.08jazkayea you should
12:31.27neekuok, then let's try it later! :)
12:31.32neekuthanks anyways :)
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12:32.40g-hennuxandinator: hm, ok. have you tried /etc/kde4/kdm/?
12:33.07andinatoryes, i did, there were no files like the ones being mentioned, but i created them
12:33.36andinatorbut that didnt change anything
12:33.48g-hennuxandinator: i do have Xreset  Xsession  Xsetup  Xstartup  Xwilling in that directory
12:34.03andinatorit just worked with /etc/kde4/xinit/xinitrc.common
12:34.14andinatorg-hennux: i dont, any suggestions why?
12:34.24g-hennuxandinator: no :D
12:34.32andinatorg-hennux: may you paste me one of the contents?
12:34.50andinatorperhaps i can use your files and add the necessary code
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12:35.07andinatori found these files in /etc/X11/xdm/ but not in the kdm folder
12:37.11g-hennuxandinator: http://pastebin.com/m66181599 -> go for Xsetup, i think
12:37.30g-hennuxandinator: and don't forget to make executable
12:37.51andinatorthey are, i also noticed that they have to
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12:37.59andinatorbut thats the xreset file isnt it?
12:38.08andinatorah, are all of em
12:38.24grandiso is 2009 going to be the year of the linux desktop?
12:38.34andinatory?
12:38.41jazkayes, as every previous years!
12:38.45jazka:)
12:38.51andinatorlinux is on its way forward, but mac os also...
12:39.06grandijazka: so I figured :P
12:39.12andinators/linux/linux as desktop/
12:39.41grandilinux apps tend to be bit unfinished and that can be really annoying
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12:40.27tueit depends on what one mean with the year of linux on the desktop.
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12:41.25grandii don't know. what it has been meant by all these years i guess
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12:46.26serenityhi
12:46.44andinatorg-hennux: did it, restarting now
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12:47.07serenityi switched my desktop and now it shows the icons right on my desktop. is there a way to switch back?
12:47.41Phlogihas gtk-qt-engine been moved into kde?
12:48.11kdepepono
12:49.17andinatorg-hennux: seems that these files arent executed, doesnt work at all...
12:49.30serenityi can add folder view, but dunno how to get rid of these icons on my desktop
12:49.43andinatorit is
12:49.53kdepeposerenity, there is a desktop mode in plasma config dialog
12:50.03andinatorserenity: richt klick desktop
12:50.16andinatordesktop settings
12:50.24serenitynope
12:50.33serenityit was there when folderview was on
12:50.35andinatorand unter "type" at the top you choose the first setting
12:50.45serenitynow with icons on desktop it is gone
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12:52.42serenityin german, but there is no way: http://beyond-serenity.homelinux.org/Screenshot8.jpeg
12:53.26kdepeposerenity, click the cashew... it should have configuring dialog
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12:54.06andinatorserenity: also auf deutsch^^ hm, seltsam, bei mir is da ein eintrag
12:54.10zak_i kept a copy of the folder konqueror , i just want to keep the bookmarks of my konqueror , now i moved to opensuse 11.1 where shall i copy this folder to get my bookmarks?
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12:55.30jazkazak_: .kde4/share/apps/ I'd sau
12:55.31jazkay
12:55.48serenitykdepepo: nope
12:56.33kdepeposerenity, then you have to manually remove the entry from .kde/share/config/plasmarc
12:56.45zak_jazka: i'd sau?
12:56.52jazkaI'd say
12:57.01serenitykdepepo: i crashed plasma, did the job ;)
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12:57.30zak_jazka: what file sha ll i copy to get my bookmarks?
12:57.48jazkaI see bookmarks.xml there so that?
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12:58.04zak_jazka: lemme check
12:58.28Nikerabbithow do I enable scim/skim in kde4?
12:59.04zak_jazka: back/tbcache?i have 2 files actually
12:59.04jazkaNikerabbit: have you been using it before?
12:59.14Nikerabbitjazka: yes
12:59.56jazkazak_: copy them all
13:00.18jazkabookmarks.xml bookmarks.bak and tbcache
13:00.22jazkaxml.bak*
13:00.48zak_done?
13:00.58zak_shall i logout /in ?
13:01.06jazkarestart konqueror?
13:01.38zak_done :)
13:01.41zak_thanks man :)
13:02.08jazkaNikerabbit: so do you get the scim icon in systray?
13:03.14jazkaif you have your environment variables correctly set, try running "scim -d"
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13:03.49Nikerabbitjazka: yes I have it
13:04.09jazkadoes it work on any apps? like gtk apps
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13:04.45Nikerabbitjazka: yes, in firefox at least
13:04.49jazkaQT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge <- works for me
13:04.54jazkawhat's your QT_IM_MODULE
13:04.59jazkaexport|grep QT_IM
13:05.52Nikerabbitscim
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13:06.04Nikerabbitexport QT_IM_MODULE="scim"
13:06.04Nikerabbitexport QT4_IM_MODULE="scim"
13:06.07Nikerabbitin my .xprofile
13:06.12jazkatry scim-bridge
13:06.17jazkaand make sure it's installed
13:06.24jazkaI think I had to change to scim-bridge, to get it working
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13:06.45jazkaI use it for GTK and QT
13:08.17jazkayou can test it after installing scim-bridge, run QT_IM_MODULE="scim-bridge" kwrite & on konsole, for example
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13:09.19Nikerabbithmm
13:09.43Nikerabbitit works on if I start from konsole
13:09.53Nikerabbitbut it doesn't work on konsole that is restored with the session
13:10.04jazkawith scim or with scim-bridge?
13:10.10Nikerabbitwith both
13:10.35jazkawell, you need to logout and log in after changing your .xprofile to scim-bridge
13:11.07NikerabbitI did restart X, it is not about that
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13:13.09Nikerabbitit also doesn't work if I launch it from alt+f2
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13:21.53andinatorg-hennux: wie ich deinem whois entnehme hätten wir auch deutsch reden können^^ also wie oben erwähnt hat nix gebracht
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13:30.08Ace2016_-Hi all
13:30.13Ace2016_-i'm partitioning my drive now
13:30.30Ace2016_-is there a way to tell kde to use a GB as 1024kb rather than 1000kb?
13:30.54Ace2016_-because i would like to have the 1024mb partition show up as 1024mb
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13:38.26g-hennuxandinator: hm, dann keine idee
13:45.34Nikerabbitargh, why doesn't okular remember to start maximised whatever I do
13:45.54pinotreeknown kdelibs bug, solved with beta2 or kde 4.1.4
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13:47.15NikerabbitAce2016_-: you seem to be confused about how bytes are calculated
13:51.57Ace2016_-Nikerabbit: i don't think i am
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13:54.56AzzcoHi I was wondering if anyone has any tips for integrated text editor (need to do a ton of small edit to text files in different folders) for dolphin.
13:54.58NikerabbitAce2016_-: well, I'm pretty sure KDE uses (2^10)^3 as the definition GB everywhere, and "kb" and "mb" are not what you mean if anything
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13:55.51jazkamb, millibit?
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13:56.27silv3r_m00nhi there
13:56.38silv3r_m00nhow can i run the control center from console
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13:56.41silv3r_m00nwhat command shud i give
13:56.46jazkasystemsettings
13:56.49jazkaor kcontrol
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13:59.29Guest23583any one can help me in color approximation
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14:00.48Nikerabbitjazka: so  no further ideas?
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14:01.29jazkanope, sorry
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14:01.50jazkado you have scim -d starting in your .kde4/Autostart/somescript ?
14:02.05rootnav
14:04.33Nikerabbitjazka: nope
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14:16.37andinatoranybody else got an idea how to start something together with kdm?
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14:17.39Ace2016_-andinator: edit the X session startup scripts i guess
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14:19.04andinatorAce2016_-: with kde 3.5 (openSUSE 11.0) it worked without doing that, but i dont remember how and now its kde4.1.3
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14:19.40Jucatoit should be the same. X is X, no matter what KDE version
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14:20.38andinatorhm, but not kdm
14:20.47mustuI've installed new KDE themes by default Desktop Settings panel... but they are not listed in thems list...
14:20.56mustudo i need to restart X?
14:21.13Ace2016_-andinator: are you looking to run something on login or kdm startup? for kdm specific startup you could look at the files in /etc/kde4/kdm
14:21.18andinatorand it was something in the Xsetup/Xsession/Xstartup files which didnt exist by default in kdm(kde4) but in kdm(kde3)
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14:21.27Jucatomustu: not really. at most you'll need to restart Plasma. Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && plasma"
14:21.42andinatorAce2016_-: yes, there are the files which worked with kdm3
14:21.51Ace2016_-so edit those files in kde4
14:22.31andinatori did
14:22.42andinatori created them because they didnt exist first
14:22.46mustuwill it disconnect my irc client audio layer etc?
14:23.53Ace2016_-mash__: no, unless they are plasma widgets
14:24.02Jucatomustu: no. it will just restart the desktop (background) and the panel
14:24.30mustuJucato: still new themes are not in the list :|
14:27.35mustuhello room ..any clue!
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14:31.45g-hennuxhow can i use the "back/forward" buttons on my mouse in konqueror?
14:31.50g-hennuxin firefox, they work out of the box
14:31.52g-hennuxthis is 4.2 beta
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15:04.08cenuijI have an issue with changing colours/fonts/desktop effects. Any changes to these while desktop effects are enabled crashes X/kwin/system so badly that I cant even rocoer with SysRq
15:04.18cenuijs/recoer/recover
15:04.48cenuijis this a kde or nvidia issue?
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15:05.07cenuijcant seem to cut through all the chaff about these to find out what is to blame :<
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15:41.53g-hennuxmy kabc keeps on forgetting about resources...
15:42.12g-hennuxi.e. the akonadi and the imap-contact resource are gone on every 2nd startup
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15:50.43EvilGuruIs there an applet equivalent to Kima for KDE4?
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15:53.41xxl...
15:54.03xxlsome one?
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15:57.38parphWhere and how do I run kde weather applet in 4.1? I don't see it anywhere, but I have the package installed (new to kde 4)
15:58.19pinotreethere's no wheather applet in kde 4.1
15:58.58parphI have a package installed called kde4-kweather
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16:02.27pinotreeyes, it does not provide a plasma applet
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17:05.38eggy_Hello, how can I make dolphin preview png images in kde4?
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17:06.26eggy_Like, show thumbnails for every image in the currenct directory?
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17:10.52eggy_Or konqueror? That will suffice also. I'm really having trouble finding a program that can just display all images in a folder, so I can easily find the thing I seek
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17:12.09g-hennuxeggy_: gwenview?
17:12.48eggy_g-hennux: how do I get gwenview to open a folder, and display all images? Because I didn't see that option
17:12.59eggy_Only one at a time
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17:13.11g-hennuxupper left "browse"?
17:13.15Mirrais KDE4 really easier on ressources?
17:13.18g-hennuxwhich version of kde are you talking about?
17:13.53eggy_g-hennux: hah! I'm such a retard. Thanks
17:14.10g-hennuxeggy_: np :)
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17:17.13Bouhello
17:17.48Bouis there a simple way to install google gadgets in KDE 4.2 (trunk) ?
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17:25.48eggy_Another question. With desktop effects enabled, everything works very slow. But without them, I cannot make konsole use transparency. How can I get it to use pseudo-transparency, like in kde3?
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17:26.20Ronis_BRhi all
17:26.31Ronis_BRhow i can configure meterological station LCD for plasma?
17:27.00EagleScreenRonis_BR good question, i am also interested
17:27.07Ronis_BR:)
17:27.43Ronis_BRbtw, kde 4.2b2 is much better than 4.1.*
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17:28.00Hydrogenthat would be the goal :)
17:28.20Ronis_BRunfortunatley the bug that stole our RAM is back againg
17:28.22Ronis_BRagain*
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17:33.15EagleScreeni am using now konversatio 1.1 on KDE 4.2beta2
17:33.42EvilGuruIn KDE3 Konqueror had a search bar on the right hand side, next to the address bar, is this still around in 4?
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17:34.23EagleScreenwhen i click on an URL in konversation, a dialog is offered to choose an application to open the URL, i choose Internet->Konqueror, but it is not open
17:35.00EagleScreenEvilGuru i have it
17:37.41EvilGuruEagleScreen: Is it a toolbar item?
17:38.03JucatoEvilGuru: look for a konq-plugins package (for KDE 4) from your distro
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17:38.48EvilGuruJucato: Ah, same as it was in KDE3 (an extra)
17:39.01EagleScreenyes
17:39.04EvilGuruAlso, I remember reading about a Webkit KPart, is this stable/real at all?
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17:39.26Jucatoreal? yes. stable? nope
17:39.33EagleScreenkonqueror-plugin-searchbar in kubuntu
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17:41.02EvilGuruBe interested how it turns out, as Webkit often does a better job at page-layout than KHTML
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17:43.40EvilGuruKdevelop 4 seems awesome though, can't wait for it to be released
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17:55.41White_Pelicancan anyone answer my question?
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17:59.24ninjaslimthis is my xorg.conf http://omploader.org/vMTFnNw/xorg.conf
17:59.37ninjaslimi can't get opengl effects in kwin4 to work, i'm run kde 4.1.1
17:59.47ninjaslimthey start and then fail during the loading process
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18:00.17ninjaslimcould somebody please point out what i might be doing wrong, i've checked other configuration guides to no avail
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18:17.52ninjaslimanyone?
18:18.06FiNeXninjaslim: maybe
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18:34.10Simkinhey guys
18:34.14Simkini'm having a problem with dcop server
18:34.19Simkinenver had this problem before.. any ideas?
18:34.21Simkinhttp://pastebin.com/d33d90e50
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18:47.14EvilGuruHow can I set the theme of GTK applications in KDE. .gtkrc-2.0 doesn't seem to be working
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19:02.32natschilhello, how do I use qdbusxml2cpp in a qmake project?
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19:07.03natschilpinotree: I tried there already :), but as I found a useful tutorial in the kde techbase that mentioned using qdbus2xml, I thought I could get more clarification here
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19:07.38pinotreenatschil: well, this is an user channel (the right channel is #kde-devel); but we would help you only with cmake, not qmake
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19:08.47natschilok, I'll ask in kde-devel
19:08.49natschilthanks
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19:14.42Ace2016_-Hi all
19:14.51Ace2016_-does kde4 have a pixmap based theme engine?
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19:19.11phtI just installed kde 4.2 beta2, and the mouse gestures are gone. wtf?
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19:22.43Egyptian[Home]hi
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19:22.53Egyptian[Home]how harmful to my system is it if i remove dolphin?
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19:26.22JucatoEgyptian[Home]: depending on the way it was packaged, but basically yes. Dolphin also provides the "file view" functionality that Konqueror uses
19:26.30Jucato(as well as the open/save dialogs
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19:27.24JucatoAce2016_-: none that I know of
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19:29.25Egyptian[Home]Jucato: you mean i CANT remove it?
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19:30.05Jucatoyou *can*, but you shouldn't. and I would guess that your distribution has packaged it in a way that removing it will remove essential parts of KDE as well
19:30.14Jucatowhy do you want to remove it?
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19:31.11Egyptian[Home]Jucato: coz i HATE it
19:31.13Egyptian[Home]:)
19:31.19Egyptian[Home]excuse my outburst
19:31.47Jucatothen don't use it. use Konqueror (which actually uses dolphin)
19:34.05Ace2016_-Egyptian[Home]: why not just set konqueror as the default file browser?
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19:35.40Egyptian[Home]Ace2016_-: i want konqueror for the automoutn thingy in the bar
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19:36.09Egyptian[Home]"new device notifier"
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19:38.38lordofthepigsHello! I'm using Kde 4.2 beta 2.
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19:39.00lordofthepigsI can't find out how I can make my taskbar plasmoid to only show windows in the current desktop
19:39.42lordofthepigsIt seems the default behavior is to show all windows from all of my desktops, but I really only want to see the windows open on the current desktop.
19:40.57serenitylordofthepigs: rightclick your panel, configure...under filters you can switch it on
19:40.59Boulordofthepigs: click the cashew to enter "edit settings" mode of the panel
19:41.09BULLEmmm, cashew nuts
19:41.15Boulordofthepigs: then right click on taskbar
19:41.29Boulordofthepigs: "task manager settings"
19:41.32Boulordofthepigs: it's there
19:42.00lordofthepigsthanks Bou
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19:42.06Boulordofthepigs: found?
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19:42.48lordofthepigsyeah. It really should be accessible like the settings of all other plasmoids
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19:43.13Boulordofthepigs: yes, weird that you have to edit panel to access it
19:43.16GraveDiggerlikes bespin kde style
19:43.16lordofthepigsit seems to be the only plasmoid for which you need to actually enter the settings mode to setup
19:43.31Boulordofthepigs: yep
19:43.32GraveDiggerit has a feature that lets switching between tabs in konsole and yakuake fade smoothly
19:43.35GraveDiggerlooks very nice
19:43.36GraveDigger:)
19:43.37lordofthepigsOh, well... Thanks for you help
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19:44.20lordofthepigsOh, and any idea why all my plasmoids that try to connect to internet crash the plasma deamon?
19:44.59GraveDiggermaybe because the plasma daemon is buggy...
19:45.00GraveDigger:)
19:45.03junkDawgiewhich plasmoids?
19:45.05lordofthepigsAll the comic, weather, RSS etc... plasmoids all crash the deamon.
19:45.20lordofthepigsIt seems to only affect those that try to connect to the internet
19:45.35junkDawgiekonqueror does the web okay, thou?
19:45.52lordofthepigsKonqueror itself works.
19:46.03lordofthepigsI haven't tried the "web browser" plasmoid though.
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19:46.16lordofthepigsI'm on Kubuntu intrepid amd64
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19:46.50arun_I dont see the network manager icon anymore. It disappeared when I tried to connect to a different wireless network but hasnt appeared since.
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19:47.00arun_I am using the kde 4.2 nightly build
19:47.04lordofthepigslet me try that "web browser plasmoid", see what happens
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19:47.33Boulordofthepigs: got an answer from #plasma: you can edit taskbar setting directly if you right click an empty area of the taskbar
19:47.34GraveDiggerarun_: networkmanager is not kde, ask in your distros channel
19:47.37junkDawgiebets it crashes plasma too
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19:47.59lordofthepigsactually, it doesn't...
19:48.11arun_thanks GraveDigger, so ws that he application which was showing my wireless connections
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19:48.17Boulordofthepigs: the right click on task entry is used for another thing and not mergable with the edit action
19:48.22simihi, any ideea how can i extend the context menu in kruner system activity? i want to add a "instant kill" using the command "kill -19"
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19:49.17lordofthepigsIs it possible that konqueror and the other plasmoid use different HTTP APIs?
19:49.19picca-i have justed compiled KDE from SVN and have to say KDE is now something exceptional .. this is going to be a stella release
19:51.38junkDawgiei keep hearing that picca, i'm not in a position to try a beta, so i have to wait... sigh
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19:52.47lordofthepigsI love 4.2 though, even though I have those small problems...
19:53.02lordofthepigsI'm sure they'll be fixed at some point.
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19:54.04junkDawgiei hope the jan release has no glaring errors... it's been a frustrating process i'm sure.
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19:55.36picca-junkDawgie: i am really impressed with kde 4.2 - it seems so stable and i think this will be a big release
19:56.11junkDawgiei've gotten the same observation from others, picca... it's a very good omen
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19:57.04picca-all i need know is a stable koffice and a kde 4 version of knetworkmanager - then i will be happy
19:57.04kiCkar_hi i just installed system-config-manager and i am getting an error     fd = open('/etc/sysconfig/i18n', 'w')
19:57.04kiCkar_IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/sysconfig/i18n'
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19:57.31pytherHello
19:57.40pytherWhat rendering backend does konqueror use?
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19:58.43jazkakhtml?
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20:00.21pytherjazka, so it isn't based off webkit?
20:00.37jazkawebkit is based on khtml
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20:04.02pytherjazka, ahh ok
20:04.29pytherbecause the site messed using libwebkit, but worked in konquorer :-/
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20:09.14Gast456guten abend
20:09.19NewToSabayonhi all...how do you reinstall kdeprint manager module from scratch
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20:10.04NewToSabayonwhen i open KDE print manager it hangs...please...help me
20:10.22picca-NewToSabayon: in KDE 4?
20:10.41NewToSabayonhow to check the KDE version?...sorry I am new to linux
20:11.02picca-NewToSabayon: i have the same problem in KDE 4
20:11.16NewToSabayonhmmm...then i think i have KDE 4
20:11.21tuxickthere's a very annoying cussor bouncing on my mouse pointer, and no idea what it is
20:11.28tuxickhow to find out and end this annoyance?
20:11.41tuxickwithout restarting kde that is
20:11.48NewToSabayonpicca: but how to find the version of KDE
20:12.05NewToSabayonpicca: is there a command which will give me the KDE ver number?
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20:12.51tuxickanyone?
20:13.00NewToSabayonbrohters and sisters of the great KDE clan...HELP ME...PLEASEEEE
20:13.02tuxickscrew it, i'll do the windows thing
20:13.18tuxickwhat a waste of time
20:13.33NewToSabayontuxick...change the theme to something else
20:13.48tuxickit's not a theme thing, something happened that triggered this
20:13.52tuxickprobably javascript or so
20:14.36NewToSabayonwell...i have the mouse cursor which always attaches the icon which u have clicked to the mouse cursor and bounces till it opens
20:14.53tuxickhmm
20:15.41NewToSabayonif it keeps on bouncing then the problem is with the application which is currently loading
20:16.55kiCkar_hey how to start Kxkb?
20:17.51NewToSabayondont start now tell me how to stop
20:18.53gkiagiakiCkar_: from kcontrol/systemsettings. just configure a keyboard layout
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20:20.00gkiagiaNewToSabayon: all kde apps display the kde version in help->about kde
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20:21.35gkiagiatuxick: you mean the launch feedback bounce? this is configurable
20:21.38EagleSnSysinfo for 'kairi': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual  CPU  T2390  @ 1.86GHz at 800 MHz (3724 bogomips), HD: 27/226GB, RAM: 1711/1999MB, 137 proc's, 41.3min up
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20:22.16EagleSncommand /sysinfo shows your information if you use konversation
20:22.57gkiagiaNewToSabayon: probably ask your distro channel for how to reinstall
20:23.41NewToSabayonwill it reinstall my printer module from scratch
20:23.44gkiagiaEagleSn: you are running the kde4 version of konversation?
20:24.03EagleSnnegative
20:24.06gkiagiaNewToSabayon: ??
20:24.22gkiagiahmm, then why it displays kde 4.1.85? :S
20:24.37EagleSnbecouse it is my KDe version
20:25.06NewToSabayongkiagia: i have issues with my print manager, when i open it, it just freezes
20:25.10EagleSni use konversation 1.1
20:25.26gkiagiayeah but kde apps usually report the version number found in the kdelibs instance that they use. so kde3 konversation uses kdelibs 3.5.x, and should display that
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20:25.49EagleSnyes, i know, it surprised me too
20:26.13gkiagiaNewToSabayon: strange, but no idea what could cause that.
20:26.13EagleSnif i go to Help->About konversation, it reports KDE 3.5.10
20:26.37gkiagiaand I rarely use the printer, so I have no clue how printer-related stuff works
20:26.42EagleSnbut with /sysinfo command, it reports right KDE version of the "enviroment"
20:26.57EagleSnsurely  anew feature of 1.1 version
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20:30.46|--jess--||hi
20:30.48|--jess--||how do I copy my data from kontact (kde3) to kontact (kde4)? The kde3 files are located in ~/.kde, the kde4 files in ~/.kde4
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20:36.01GraveDiggerno one did ever mind ^^
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20:43.04tuxicktime to restart kde anyway
20:43.13tuxickkonq got 10 times slower than i can allow
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20:51.48Mirrakorhm.. where's the KDE bug squad channel? :D
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20:59.28simihi, any ideea how can i extend the context menu in kruner system activity? i want to add a "instant kill" using the command "kill -19"
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21:00.24srednawants to kill krunner because it is slow
21:00.40lordofthepigsOh, does Katapult work on Kde4?
21:00.57lordofthepigsI find the way it works slightly nicer than Krunner
21:01.13tictriclordofthepigs: how come?
21:01.26srednathere is no good way to start apps in kde 4, except konsole. everything else is slow and cumbersome :-)
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21:02.07lordofthepigswell, I don't know...
21:02.19lordofthepigsHeh... i guess I'm just resisting change
21:02.30lordofthepigsI'll get over it after a while, I guess
21:02.31tictricsredna: You can stay with kde 3.5 until ... don't know
21:02.58lordofthepigsActually, I really like kde 4.
21:03.10lordofthepigsI like the elegance of the plasmoid design.
21:03.23lordofthepigsLove the folder view plasmoid
21:03.43tictricI don't think Alt-F2 to be very cumbersome
21:03.53luke-jrI see no difference between Plasma and the old KDesktop
21:03.58luke-jrs/KDesktop/Kicker
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21:04.15luke-jrthe KDE 4 Alt-F2 is vastly inferior to the KDE 3
21:04.33luke-jrtictric: KDE 3.5 is not maintained ☹
21:04.44luke-jrand KDE 4 is *in general* better
21:04.49luke-jrjust a few annoyances
21:05.14Mirrakor"I got to admit, it's getting better, getting better all the time" (quote from ... ? :) )
21:05.30luke-jrMirrakor: Beatles -- Getting Better
21:05.36Mirrakorscore :)
21:06.02luke-jrI've got high hopes for 4.2
21:06.15luke-jrI desperately hope KOrganizer is usable again
21:06.47Mirrakorluke-jr: 4.2 is getting nice :)
21:06.48luke-jrmy bugs are still all open tho so I get the feeling it won't be
21:06.50genady12someone can help me get kwin composite work? compiz works but kwin composite not
21:06.57luke-jrgenady12: it's not worth it
21:07.02genady12?
21:07.05luke-jrcompositing creates too much lag
21:07.21genady12and compiz?
21:07.28Mirrakorluke-jr: what's not working for you in KOrganizer?
21:07.30luke-jrno idea, I haven't used it since before Beryl forked
21:07.38luke-jrMirrakor: the timezone management is an absolute mess
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21:08.13arezeydoesn't like kde4... too slow.
21:08.17luke-jrMirrakor: usability issues for me come down to 2 things: impossible to use KDE 3 VCard dirs, and the VCards all storing their own copy of TZ info
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21:08.25luke-jrarezey: it's snappy if you disable compositing
21:08.37luke-jrMirrakor: oh, and recurring todos are just non-workign at all
21:08.39arezeyhmm.
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21:10.03luke-jrMirrakor: I have been forced to take my bill payment reminders to a text file that I iterate through across the month
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21:12.23srednakde4 rocks, although there are some obvious weaknesses still. Amongst which the need for a non-slow program starter
21:12.51sredna(krunner freezes > 2 secs here if i type 3 letters in it and hits return)
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21:13.29Ace2016_-sredna: nvidia graphics card?
21:13.59srednaAce2016_-: no
21:14.18srednawell, yes, but that is not the reason, unless krunner has special evilness built in
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21:14.35Ace2016_-damn, i wrote out a big chunk of text to explain how to speed it up with nvidia :(
21:14.37srednaand it can work, if i create a empty user account
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21:15.03srednaAce2016_-: krunner explicitly? then i would love to test if it helps!
21:15.34Ace2016_-no it was about nvidia, what graphics card do you have?
21:15.38lordofthepigsis there a way to get Krunner to show me hits immediately, and not wait for 3 keypresses?
21:15.46Ace2016_-yes
21:15.58lordofthepigshow?
21:16.00Ace2016_-you can do what i did when nvidia didn't have improved drivers out
21:16.07Ace2016_-what graphics card do you have!
21:16.48srednaAce2016_-: i do have a nvidia
21:17.03EvilGuruIs there any way to get Okular to use subpixel font rendering? All parts of the application bar the PDF being displayed use it
21:17.07srednaAce2016_-: but the kwin fanciness generally works
21:17.59Ace2016_--.-
21:18.23pinotreeEvilGuru: for the application or the document rendering?
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21:18.34EvilGurupinotree: Document rendering
21:18.47pinotree#poppler
21:18.53srednasuspects that krunner spends 034958739083640734237042 doing something weird, although he turned a lot of stuff off
21:19.05EvilGuruAh, so it is a poppler thing, okay
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21:19.29pinotreeof course it is
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21:20.19Ace2016_-sredna: why did you say you didn't have an nvidia card?
21:20.50srednaAce2016_-: sorry, misunderstanding
21:21.50Ace2016_-sredna: the nvidia drives have buggy 2D rendering so its slow, newer drivers are much faster, what version are you using?
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21:25.10srednaAce2016_-: i have a gfx 8600, so i use 173.80 or stlt
21:25.35srednaAce2016_-: the latest one recommended for my card (i hope)
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21:31.11FerrenrockI need help with a cmake error I'm getting when I try to build a plasmoid
21:31.27Ferrenrockthe plasmoid is here
21:31.28Ferrenrockhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+(Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid)?content=94106
21:31.33Ferrenrockthe instructions are here
21:31.38Ace2016_-sredna: thats too old, you need 180.xx
21:31.41Ferrenrockhttp://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=70
21:32.19Ace2016_-if you get 180.xx be sure to patch mplayer to get hardware accelerated purevideo h264 and mpeg video decoding
21:32.20kmayssredna: 177.82 preferred.
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21:33.01pinotreeFerrenrock: what is the error you get? (use a pastebin for pasting output)
21:33.10_moep_hey can i switch at konqueror in 4.x something like in 3.x at textview?
21:33.16Ferrenrockpinotree: one sec, I accidently closed my terminal with it
21:33.55Ferrenrockpinotree: ok it's not the cmake step, it's just the 'make' step.
21:34.06srednais confused
21:34.12FerrenrockI'm still in plasmoid/build directory, and when I type 'make' I get 'make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.'
21:34.44Simkinhttp://pastebin.com/d33d90e50
21:34.47Simkinhey guys
21:34.50Simkinanyone know what would cause this?
21:34.53SimkinI can't use kde :(
21:35.07pinotreeFerrenrock: then clean (as in rm -rf *) the content of the build directory, and then run cmake again, pasting the output in a pastebin
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21:35.19Ferrenrockpinotree: ok one sec
21:35.25kmayssredna: KDE 4.2b2 works well in 177.82 with Nvidia cards.
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21:36.24srednakmays: also geforce 8600?
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21:37.33Ferrenrockpinotree: I just realized I ran the cmake command and all of its arguments with a hash in front of it, rendering the whole thing null. So now I try to do it and I get "CMake Error: The source directory "/home/bob/Downloads" does not appearto contain CMakeLists.txt."
21:37.36kmaysYes.
21:37.53srednakmays: thank you, i will try that
21:37.54pinotreeFerrenrock: cd build
21:37.59Ace2016_-i also have a 8600GT
21:38.23srednaAce2016_-: and you have better results with 180.xx?
21:38.30Ferrenrockpinotree: holy crapmonkeys on ice it worked
21:38.33Ferrenrockthanks
21:38.45Ace2016_-never bothered, i just use Xgl
21:38.48pinotreeyou're welcome
21:39.04Ferrenrockpinotree: so each time I tried doing it I made a stupid mistake
21:39.06Ferrenrockwow
21:39.24Ferrenrockhash, wrong directory, skipping a step
21:39.27Ferrenrock:-/ I suck
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21:39.51pinotreenah, that can happen, especially when it is something you never did
21:40.01Simkin?
21:40.13Ferrenrockbut I have done ./config make make install stuff
21:40.16FerrenrockI have no excuse
21:40.23Ferrenrockcommits suicide
21:40.33Ferrenrockj/k
21:40.33pinotreeoffers Ferrenrock a drink
21:40.47Ferrenrocktakes pinotree's drink and asks for another
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21:41.10Simkinwhat does bad add command mean in regards to starting up kde!?!?!
21:41.13Simkini can't load kde
21:41.16Simkindriving me CRAZY
21:41.22Simkinanyone haev any ideas??
21:41.44FerrenrockSimkin: no, I'm drunk. have you checked your xinitrc?
21:41.51Simkinsomeone told me it might have soeting to do with bad hostname
21:41.56Simkinbtu the hostname is just 'smudge'
21:41.58Simkinshould be ok? right?
21:42.12FerrenrockSimkin: assuming all the hostnames match up in the config files yes
21:42.27Simkinif i type ping myhostname and it works. it's ok.  right?
21:43.50FerrenrockSimkin: no, I mean you need the right hostname in the kde config files
21:43.59Simkinthe kde config files never ask for a host name?
21:44.04Simkinlet me try something!
21:44.05Ferrenrockmaybe they do
21:44.10FerrenrockI mean that's what I'm assuming
21:44.11Simkingoing back to local host and see if that helps
21:44.14Ferrenrockok
21:44.37robbmunsonwe are usually drunk in here huh?
21:44.52robbmunsonlast 2 days SOMEONE has been drunk, its been different people, but someones always drunk :P
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21:45.57Simkini'm not drunk :(
21:45.58Simkini feel bad
21:46.11SimkinWAHOO
21:46.13Ferrenrockrobbmunson: well it's kde, it's kind to drunk people
21:46.14Simkinkde works again
21:46.16Simkinno more sadness for me.
21:46.25FerrenrockSimkin: do you even know what you did? ;)
21:46.25robbmunsonFerrenrock: haha, true
21:46.41robbmunsonFerrenrock: probably not
21:46.51SimkinFerrenrock: went back to 'localhost' as hostname
21:46.53robbmunsonsees "computer will self destruct in T minus 10...9..."
21:46.55robbmunsonoh crap!
21:46.59FerrenrockSimkin: ah, that works
21:47.00Bearcathey folks. I can not log into kde4 using the login screen (rl 5) I have tracked it down to a pam probem. I have no kde file in /etc/pam.d  My distro (sourcemage) does not use the system-auth file.  Given that, what should go in this /etc/pam.d/kde file?
21:47.03EvilGuruEvery channel has a couple of drunks, tis is what makes IRC fun
21:47.06Ferrenrockrobbmunson: blowup -h now
21:47.24robbmunsonFerrenrock: :)
21:47.40FerrenrockEvilGuru: I usually hang out on #archlinux, where the mods are pretty nice
21:47.54Ferrenrockrobbmunson: it's a lot more fun than halt amirite?
21:48.07Bearcatand if you don't know what sourcemage is, just pretend it's gentoo
21:48.09robbmunsonuhu
21:48.27robbmunsonFerrenrock: the archlinux guys are a hoot, i love it in there :P
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21:49.13Ferrenrockrobbmunson: yeah, it's not like #gentoo where you'll get banned if you're not talking about SQL arrays or some high end crap
21:49.27robbmunsonhaha
21:49.38robbmunsonthinks the gentoo guys are elitist :(
21:49.45Ferrenrockjust a little ;)
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21:50.01Ferrenrockit's surprising, because the only difference between arch and gentoo is really binaries vs sources
21:50.17robbmunsonFerrenrock: thats what i said to him
21:50.19pinotreesuggests moving the discussion to #kde-chat -- this is user support...
21:51.01Simkinwhat's a public time server?
21:51.06Simkini always use nist1.datum.com
21:51.08Ferrenrockrobbmunson: heh yeah
21:51.09Simkinbut it is timing out
21:51.13Simkinreturning EOF!
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21:51.38Ferrenrockpinotree: sorry about that, I guess we're talking more like a support group than user support eh? ;)
21:52.46pinotreeSimkin: http://www.pool.ntp.org/
21:53.19Simkinthanks pino
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21:55.38robbmunsonFerrenrock: im starting to agree with pinotree, we can move it to kde-chat if you want :)
21:55.56Ferrenrockrobbmunson: I'm there
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22:09.00sidhhello everybody
22:09.11Simkinis therea  gui "htop" for kde ?
22:09.14sidhdoes someone has already used SMILE
22:09.19sidh(for diaporama)
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22:10.46MinceRSimkin: ksysguard has a "process table"
22:10.57Simkinyah..
22:10.58Simkinnot what i want
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22:13.10megahealthhi
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22:13.35megahealthi have big problems with 4.1.3 is their an extra channel for 4.1.x related questions?
22:13.36srednaSimkin: what does htop provide that the process table does not?
22:14.02pothibohey, I just compiled from source, and I have a dbus issue, plasma crash on launch saying it can't connect to X and Dbus, is there something new about dbus I need to add?
22:14.06Simkinsredna: cpu usage statistics
22:14.24Simkinper cpu no less
22:14.48megahealthhello?
22:15.16srednaSimkin: there are other means for that in KDE
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22:17.08Simkinsredna: how?
22:18.07srednaSimkin: ksysguard, or one of the various applets/plasmoids available
22:18.38Simkinthanks
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22:33.23vitalWhat distro would I use that provides the most up-to-date *unstable*/Trunk KDE? :)
22:34.00srednaLFS 89
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22:34.11srednaLFS 8)
22:37.17Colonel_Panicany of you have experience with the drum machine hydrogen?
22:37.41Colonel_Panicfor some reason it won't start the audio driver
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22:39.20sidhi have backup my smile project , but i don't have any smi file
22:39.24sidhonly gib
22:39.47sidhis it possible to regenerate a smi file from a .gib
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22:41.47btQuark1hello
22:41.57btQuark1is someone here who knows about kontact or kmail?
22:42.14pinotreewell, just ask your question
22:42.20White_Pelicanwhat do you need ot know about kmail
22:44.01btQuark1i do have a multitude of email accounts which i get via imap
22:44.18eljefeI've created a slideshow in QDVDAuthor but i cannot get it to 'render', how do i do that so that I can export the DVD?
22:44.19btQuark1and i could not yet find a way for kmail to use the accounts trashfolder and not the local one
22:44.43btQuark1and it downloading&moving to local trash takes really long
22:44.48White_Pelicansorry a little beyond my experience level
22:44.50btQuark1and mixes up messages
22:44.58White_Pelicanmaybe someone else can help you
22:45.27tictricbtQuark1: see in the account settings
22:47.04tictriclook for deleted items folder ;)
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22:47.28eljefeColonel_Panic does hydrogen want sole copntrol of your audio subsystem, and you have something else playing/using the audio?
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22:47.52White_Pelicanis there anyway to keep the addressbook in another location?
22:47.57btQuark1tictric found it
22:47.58btQuark1thx
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22:48.08tictricWhite_Pelican: yes
22:48.16White_Pelicanhow?
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22:48.56tictricmove it from from the standard location to wherever you like it and set the resources accordingly
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22:49.59White_PelicanI guess the question is how to set the resources
22:50.33btQuark1hopes to be finally able to get rid of thunderbird plus crap
22:50.39tictricWhite_Pelican: hang on, I need to start it in english language :)
22:50.51White_Pelicanok, np
22:51.06White_PelicanI'll ask myother question when we resolve this one :)
22:51.11btQuark1what would you guys recommand as a spamfiltering solution for kmail?
22:51.12White_Pelicanmy other*
22:51.22btQuark1pipe things through a local spamassasin?
22:51.39Colonel_Paniceljefe:There's no other sound-using app open that I know of
22:52.04tictricwhen you click on View in the Menu check Address Books to show the resources
22:52.15btQuark1duh
22:52.17Colonel_Paniceljefe: I've tried the several available options for audio drivers
22:52.29Colonel_Panicnone of them work
22:52.40btQuark1the spamfiltering assistant can only move recognized spam to one of the local folderd
22:52.41btQuark1s
22:52.45eljefe:(
22:52.46btQuark1which is terribly bad
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22:52.56eljefecannot say, I've not tried hydrogen
22:53.02Colonel_Paniceljefe, do you know brad carter?
22:53.11eljefenope
22:53.21tictricthen edit resource to find out where it currently resides
22:53.40tictricIs that a point from where you can go on?
22:53.43Colonel_Panicwell, I've pastebinned the CLI output from launching hydrogen, if you think that would give any clue
22:53.50tictricon your own White_Pelican?
22:54.00Colonel_Panichttp://www.pastebin.ca/1291051
22:54.14White_Pelican?
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22:55.18tictricWhite_Pelican: I wanted to know if that helped you
22:55.27Colonel_Panicgoddamn, I never had these probloems before
22:55.38White_PelicanI haven't tried it yet as I'm slighly confused
22:55.43Colonel_PanicI never should have upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10
22:56.00Colonel_Panicthis has been nothing but a major hassle
22:56.18tictricwhy are you confused?
22:56.30White_PelicanI'm in kaddressbook right now
22:56.42White_Pelicanshould I be looking at configure?
22:56.49tictricfine, click on View->Adress Books
22:57.02tictricno, not configure
22:57.18White_Pelicanaddress books is already clicked
22:57.23White_Pelicanshould I uncheck it?
22:57.32tictricdo you see Address Books in the lower left corner?
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22:58.18White_Pelicanyes and resource is checked
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22:59.23tictricclick on it so that it is highlighted and click on Edit Button then
22:59.28aikieis there something for bluetooth in kde4 ?
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23:00.24tictricLocation shows you where you find the address book file currently
23:00.43tictricprobably ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf
23:00.55White_Pelicanso it's all one big vcf file?
23:01.00tictricyes
23:01.09White_Pelicancool
23:01.16White_Pelicanthanks for your help
23:01.37tictricuncheck resource and move it if you feel the need to do so and change the path
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23:03.00tictricgood night folks, only 5 hours sleep left :(
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23:10.49Ferrenrockis there a way to run a program in sudo in the gui? like holding some key or right clicking something? using the terminal each time is a pain
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23:12.00freeedrich|Ferrenrock: well. put yourself some .desktop files which exec "kdesu /path/to/program"
23:13.05Ferrenrockfreeedrich|: I was thinking more along the lines of some option on the right click menu. I just want to be able to run kwrite in sudo
23:13.31Ferrenrockso I can browse through etc and whatever in dolphin while doing this
23:13.37freeedrich|umm, I think there was some way to add options/actions to the context menus. But I have no idea how.
23:14.02Ferrenrockmaybe some xml thing?
23:14.05FerrenrockI dunno
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23:15.30enumeratewhere can I download kde 4 rpm for centos? thanks in advance
23:15.45drantin#centos might help with that
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23:17.09Ferrenrockfreeedrich|: alright, is there a setting that has all programs run in sudo if you are in a certain directory?
23:19.22freeedrich|huh?
23:21.00btQuark1duh
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23:21.17Ferrenrockfreeedrich|: I dunno just wondering
23:21.23btQuark1is there a plan to modify the spamfilter assistant to create spamfilter rules per account?
23:21.32btQuark1because i need to copy&customize mine here per account
23:21.38btQuark1which is a little anoying
23:26.19stonedhello
23:26.27stonedI took the time to configure kde4 and now its not so bad
23:26.31stoneddragonplayer is nice
23:26.42stonedI miss the panel configuraiton options
23:26.57stonedhow to move panel items around?
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23:27.02stonedlike in kicker
23:27.15stonedyou can change which # position the item appears in the bottom panel
23:27.32stonedI want kde menu icon to be first, but desktop pager is first
23:27.37stonedhow can i switch
23:27.39stoned?
23:28.46freeedrich|stdin: click the cashew
23:28.55freeedrich|(to configure your panel)
23:29.00freeedrich|then you can easily move them around
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23:30.56stonedcachew?
23:31.06reavertmyes, it's cashew ;)
23:31.19BULLEcashew nuts, is teh yum !
23:31.30stonedyou mean the little thing that looks like the Gnome foot?
23:31.34stonedwith the dots
23:31.36stonedits a mango
23:31.39stoneddummy!
23:32.13stonedthanks
23:32.17BULLEif it is a mango, why is it drawn to look like a cashew nut ?
23:32.36stonedbecause the guy who was drawing it at the time was eating cachews
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23:32.40stonedbut he wanted to draw a mango
23:32.42stonedhe got confused
23:32.47BULLEoh
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23:33.04BULLEi can relate to that, i mix up cashew nuts and mangos all the time
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23:33.14stonedyeh
23:33.17stonedit happens
23:33.22tuxickso you've had sex with cashew nuts?
23:33.32BULLEtuxick: sicko!
23:33.59FirefisheI'm working with kdesvn-build.  I need a little bit of guidance on editing the .kdesvn-buildrc file.
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23:34.18kasselhi all
23:34.29Firefishehi kassel
23:34.57kasselim begginer in qt4 develop
23:35.06kasselhi firefishe
23:35.34kasselany good url for begeners to start
23:35.39kasselthanks a lot
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