00:01.05 | DaSkreech | Grr I can' get plasma to make shortcuts stick |
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00:09.45 | stoned | in konqueror 3.5.9 my menus are stale showing old entries from programs that do not exist |
00:09.48 | stoned | how can I upate it? |
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00:10.15 | stoned | I do update-menus but that only works on debian menu, I open kmenu editor, I and just save it without editing it hoping perhaps that might cause it to update |
00:10.18 | stoned | but no dice |
00:10.19 | stoned | please adive |
00:10.25 | stoned | hey that rhymed |
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00:27.02 | Dex | http://www.xpango.com?ref=91588887 |
00:27.05 | Dex | http://www.xpango.com?ref=91588887 |
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00:37.09 | ner0x | Any cd writing software for kde4? |
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00:40.05 | DaSkreech | no |
00:40.55 | bgmiki | somehere compile KDE4 from svn? |
00:41.11 | bgmiki | someone ...sry |
00:41.15 | erik-k | did |
00:41.38 | bgmiki | what version gcc u have? |
00:41.49 | erik-k | 4.1.2 |
00:42.01 | bgmiki | thx very much |
00:42.06 | erik-k | yw |
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00:42.39 | tue | DaSkreech: sorry, pressed alt-tab and kde hanged. |
00:42.46 | DaSkreech | hung |
00:42.50 | DaSkreech | coughs |
00:44.07 | tue | DaSkreech: hung even! menu.lst says (tada!) that im running kubuntu 8.04 using kernel 2.6.24.... |
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00:45.14 | icheishvili | Hi, can someone help me with taglib? I'm having a problem where it repeatedly reports that the picture frame that I am trying to create is smaller than 5 bytes. |
00:45.36 | icheishvili | I think that I'm reading the png from disk correctly... |
00:46.39 | tue | DaSkreech: im just going to change that to the right kernel version and reboot. that aught to do it. |
00:48.45 | DaSkreech | tue: I think you jumped chans |
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01:27.12 | g-hennux | hi! |
01:28.07 | g-hennux | how long is nepomuk intended to run before my home dir (~40G) is read completely? nepomukservices runs at >90% cpu usage for some hours now |
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01:29.13 | g-hennux | and afterwards, is there any fulltext search in my files that i could use? |
01:29.36 | DaSkreech | nepomuksearch:/ |
01:30.18 | g-hennux | DaSkreech: this shows me four folders ("Recent Files" etc.) which are ll empty |
01:30.21 | g-hennux | ll->all |
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01:39.04 | KTheorem | I have a strange problem that no-one else has been able to give me any advice about. When I turn on Desktop Effects using OpenGL, eventually my system complains that there are too many files open and refuses to open any more (including programs and new logins from another terminal). Doing some sleuthing on my own I have discovered that all of my file descriptors are being used up. Turning off desktop effects stops the number of open |
01:39.05 | KTheorem | descriptors from rising but they are never given back. I am running Fedora 10 x86_64 on a ThinkPad T61 with intel graphics. |
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01:40.26 | DaSkreech | KTheorem: #kwin |
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01:44.22 | Traveler1 | hey |
01:44.27 | Traveler1 | im using the new kde |
01:44.37 | Traveler1 | but i REALLY dislike the whole plasmid thing |
01:44.42 | Traveler1 | is it possible to disable this? |
01:46.27 | DaSkreech | Traveler1: Sure kquitapp plasma |
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01:52.54 | DaSkreech | Argh WHy is Konqueror's Drop target so small? |
01:53.47 | Jucato | konqueror has a drop target? |
01:54.39 | DaSkreech | Yes |
01:55.14 | Jucato | where? |
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01:55.21 | DaSkreech | The tab |
01:55.51 | DaSkreech | If I drag a URL onto Konqui the only valid spots are the URL bar or the tab and only the tab will actually go the URL |
01:55.58 | DaSkreech | why can't I drop it on the page? |
01:56.13 | Jucato | ah.. I was thinking of kget-like drop target |
01:56.17 | Jucato | but hm... |
01:57.01 | Jucato | dropping a url (from a web page?) to the url bar works here. opens a new tab |
01:57.08 | DaSkreech | Yeah |
01:57.31 | DaSkreech | try dragging http://jucato.org to the web page |
01:58.01 | Jucato | works in 4.1 |
01:58.13 | DaSkreech | Doesn't in 4.2 it seems |
01:58.27 | DaSkreech | Regressions suck |
01:58.57 | DaSkreech | Unless that was intended though I doubt it |
01:59.13 | Jucato | bko is great for regressions ;) |
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01:59.58 | DaSkreech | I'm going to try ascertain if it's really a regression or I'm doing something stupid first |
02:01.07 | Jucato | well, good luck. |
02:01.11 | Jucato | hits the hay |
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02:04.49 | DaSkreech | What did the hay do to you? |
02:07.38 | Traveler1 | is there a way to disable the plasmid feature in kde? |
02:07.50 | Traveler1 | so the desktop literally shows whaever is in the desktop folder? |
02:08.19 | drantin | s/plasmid/plasmoid/ |
02:08.20 | Traveler1 | and i dont have those vista-like sidebars for adding applets etc? |
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02:08.29 | Traveler1 | how can i disable that? |
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02:14.15 | stoned | hey |
02:14.27 | stoned | 1) I uninstall kde3 |
02:14.34 | stoned | 2) I install kde4 |
02:14.40 | stoned | 3) I don't like kde4 |
02:14.44 | stoned | 4) I remove kde4 |
02:14.51 | stoned | 5) I install kde3 |
02:15.11 | stoned | 6) now my Klipper if of kde4 and I can't seem to figure how to make my Klipper of 3.5 |
02:15.17 | stoned | please advise I am on debian |
02:16.54 | DaSkreech | Traveler1: oooh what version of KDE are you on? |
02:17.12 | DaSkreech | stoned: Remove your klipper config? |
02:17.19 | DaSkreech | and #debian-kde |
02:17.38 | Gentle | Traveler1: kde-4.2 will have a classic desktop mode |
02:18.05 | stoned | hey ok |
02:18.11 | stoned | I kill a klipper icon |
02:18.15 | Anonycat | What ever happened to the zip:/ ioslave in KDE4? |
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02:18.17 | stoned | I alt+f2 and run klipper |
02:18.23 | stoned | i am back in klipper 3.5 thank you |
02:18.40 | DaSkreech | Anonycat: maintained by ark ark is lightly maintained |
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02:27.16 | ABCD | is anyone else having problems getting the LCD Weather Station applet to work (KDE 4.1.85, kdeplasma-addons)? It won't let me select a data source |
02:32.46 | DaSkreech | Yeah me either |
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02:44.18 | luke-jr | Is it possible to require an extra password for a virtual desktop? |
02:44.44 | drantin | is there a way to group items in the task manager plasmoid arbitrarily? e.g. leave kopete's main window alone but group all the chat windows? |
02:48.49 | gr1mlap | I don't think so, but as a work around you could enable tabbing in the chat window for kopete |
02:49.25 | drantin | ah, well... I was just using that as an example. I'm not actually using kopete atm |
02:50.03 | ABCD | drantin: according to the options, there appears to be a way, but I cannot figure out how to make it work |
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02:52.53 | stoned | I LOVE KDE 3.5 |
02:53.00 | stoned | hello world! |
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02:54.29 | erik-k | Yaaay, konqueror 4 has crash-session-restore! |
02:54.32 | erik-k | hugs everyone |
02:55.34 | KTheorem | Does anyone know of a way to make sure one of the pages *doesn't* restore when you recover from a crash? |
02:55.55 | KTheorem | It's annoying to have a page crash konq and then not be able to restore because it just crashes it again |
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03:12.32 | DaSkreech | KTheorem: A) you can just not restore b) it should keep a track of how many times it's crashed and stop loading when it does it a certain number of times c) unless you have really really fast net you can just close the tab or stop it loading d) If you have really fast net plug out the network cord |
03:13.10 | tangentcollision | hello |
03:13.26 | tangentcollision | what is the partition manager in fedora? |
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03:15.29 | DaSkreech | #fedora |
03:18.36 | tangentcollision | ergh |
03:18.47 | tangentcollision | crap, stupid default client |
03:18.53 | tangentcollision | sorry for intruding, lol |
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03:28.02 | tangentcollision | is there a standard kde partition manager? |
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03:29.10 | DaSkreech | no |
03:29.25 | DaSkreech | Though it would be nice if someone did development on QtParted |
03:33.08 | CoJaBo-Eee | What do I need to do to connect to a wireless network in Kubuntu? Knetworkmanager does not even acknowledge that it is trying to connect. |
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03:35.24 | ninjaslim | is there a glitch in the kmix tray icon, it causes the systray to just like whiteout |
03:38.43 | luke-jr | probably |
03:38.48 | luke-jr | system tray stuff is weird |
03:40.00 | ninjaslim | lol i'm hoping it's fixed in kde 4.2 |
03:40.23 | luke-jr | system tray stuff is low level X stuff |
03:40.26 | luke-jr | not KDE stuff |
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03:45.18 | ninjaslim | right but is the icon drawing not kde stuff? |
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03:45.36 | ninjaslim | and also what kind of burning software is good ofr kde 4, i mean k3b will require kde3 stuff |
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03:50.19 | sandeepkumar047 | hi |
03:50.37 | ninjaslim | brb |
03:50.40 | ninjaslim | sorry |
03:51.12 | sandeepkumar047 | How can i join to a specific channel? |
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03:54.41 | sandeepkumar047 | Hi, any one can tell me how to join to a specific channel? |
03:55.26 | sandeepkumar047 | Join |
03:55.32 | sandeepkumar047 | sorry |
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03:56.09 | luke-jr | how did you get here/ |
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04:00.15 | DaSkreech | sandeepkumar047: Where do you want to join ? |
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04:00.40 | sandeepkumar047 | ##c |
04:01.10 | DaSkreech | sandeepkumar047: /join ##c |
04:02.20 | sandeepkumar047 | it is telling: "Please register with services and use the IDENTIFY command (/msg nickserv help) to speak in this channel" |
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04:06.27 | sandeepkumar047 | DaSkreech.. Can you help me in login into ##c channel? |
04:06.53 | DaSkreech | sandeepkumar047: Login or join ? |
04:07.00 | ninjaslim | sandeepkumar047: you need to register on freenode first |
04:07.42 | sandeepkumar047 | Yes. Registered. I got a mail telling to give a command for verifying registeration. |
04:08.09 | sandeepkumar047 | mail told to give this commnd: "/msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER sandeepkumar047 ffeqggijsagl" |
04:08.16 | drantin | sandeepkumar047: you need to identify with nickserv too |
04:08.37 | sandeepkumar047 | how ? |
04:08.42 | drantin | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.53 | drantin | <PROTECTED> |
04:08.56 | drantin | is also good |
04:08.57 | sandeepkumar047 | okay.. i will try wait. |
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04:09.37 | sandeepkumar047 | yes it identified me.. |
04:10.00 | sandeepkumar047 | i think now i can give the command told in the mail. |
04:10.11 | drantin | 2010:00 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- sandeepkumar047 has NOT COMPLETED registration verification |
04:11.04 | sandeepkumar047 | How to complete the registration? Confused... ;-( |
04:11.19 | drantin | did you give the command you were supposed to? |
04:11.36 | drantin | <PROTECTED> |
04:11.43 | sandeepkumar047 | I should give it in #kde or ##c? |
04:11.52 | drantin | anywhere |
04:11.59 | sandeepkumar047 | okay. |
04:12.00 | drantin | just don't have a space before the / |
04:12.07 | sandeepkumar047 | okay |
04:12.16 | drantin | it doesn't go to the channel anyway /msg makes it go to the nick after that command |
04:13.00 | drantin | also, don't irc as root, some channels don't like it; and it's not very good security practice |
04:13.03 | sandeepkumar047 | yes.. now i logged in.. thanks for help |
04:13.46 | sandeepkumar047 | okay. how can i log in not as root? |
04:14.38 | drantin | irc from a normal user account instead of loggin in as root; but this is really offtopic for #kde ... |
04:14.52 | drantin | #freenode would be better |
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04:16.03 | sandeepkumar047 | okay. i shall login as not as root. |
04:16.56 | sandeepkumar047 | drantin thank you very much.. |
04:17.14 | drantin | np |
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04:48.46 | brettw | I'm taking my first tiny steps into KDE4 and have a problem with the panel. I'm learning how to customise it to my liking but in the process have addes spacers. Now I can delete them. Can someone tell me the secret? |
04:49.06 | brettw | Sorry I meane now I CAN'T delete them. |
04:49.21 | DaSkreech | How did you get spacers? |
04:49.33 | brettw | I't one of the selectable widgets. |
04:49.55 | brettw | Once added there's no little minus sign to click. |
04:50.54 | KTheorem | Can you right click on it and select "Remove this <widgetname>? |
04:51.13 | brettw | No. It just gived otpion re the panel. |
04:51.41 | brettw | (wow my typing is really bad. Too much coffee) |
04:52.28 | DaSkreech | What? I don't have that :( |
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04:52.39 | brettw | What? Coffee? :-) |
04:52.59 | brettw | Doyou mean spacer widgets? |
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04:53.59 | DaSkreech | Yes |
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05:04.37 | zce | im having a strange behaviour with konsole, gnome-terminal and xterm.. they dont seem to agree with my page up/down keys |
05:05.44 | zce | konsole appears to ignore them.. xterm ignore shift+pgup to scroll, but pgup is ok (to browse a manpage for example).. and gnome-terminal works both with and without shift (ie, terminal scroll and manpage scroll) |
05:06.07 | zce | anybody has any clue about this? |
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05:09.32 | zce | and Eterm is like xterm, but pgdn on "man" (actually "less") gives me strange characters |
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05:10.06 | drantin | zce: some apps understand pgup/pgdown |
05:10.35 | drantin | less (used for man pages) understands them |
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05:13.42 | zce | drantin: yes, but the problem is that it appears that konsole is not sending them |
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05:16.29 | naught101 | I'm running konqueror 4.1.85, and thunbnails aren't working |
05:16.47 | Alan_M | why does kde4 use a kde3.5 version of Konversation instead of making a new one for kde4? |
05:17.07 | naught101 | they are working in the plasma desktopo widget though |
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05:17.41 | naught101 | but not in dolphin |
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05:19.38 | PhrkOnLsh | Alan_M: Because konqeuer in kde4 has kinda been superceded by dolphin ^_^ |
05:20.42 | Alan_M | PhrkOnLsh: did i say konqueror? |
05:20.44 | naught101 | PhrkOnLsh: no it hasn't, and he's not talking about konqueror, but konversation |
05:20.56 | Alan_M | naught101: thanks for reading my message :) |
05:21.02 | PhrkOnLsh | wow, sorry |
05:21.07 | PhrkOnLsh | I am /really/ drunk right now... |
05:21.11 | naught101 | hehe |
05:21.26 | naught101 | don't drink and compute! |
05:21.28 | Alan_M | was like...um..am i just stupid and forgot what it was called? lol |
05:21.29 | PhrkOnLsh | konversation kde4 port is underway iirc |
05:21.55 | Alan_M | PhrkOnLsh: oh, ok so it hasnt been released yet, thats cool, i was just wondering. |
05:22.07 | PhrkOnLsh | but i"ll shut up now and fuck with why NVIDIA kernel mod won't connect with ACPI |
05:22.07 | Alan_M | thought i was behind the times :) |
05:24.03 | naught101 | does everyone else get image thumbnails in konqueror? |
05:25.12 | DaSkreech | naught101: I do |
05:25.35 | naught101 | ok, does anyone else NOT get thumbnails? |
05:25.45 | naught101 | and know why |
05:26.42 | DaSkreech | naught101: did you press thumbnails ? |
05:26.54 | DaSkreech | I mean preview |
05:27.00 | naught101 | er.. press? |
05:27.15 | naught101 | ah, ok |
05:27.23 | naught101 | I assumed it would be on by default |
05:27.39 | DaSkreech | No |
05:27.48 | DaSkreech | It eats a fai amount of hard drive space |
05:27.50 | DaSkreech | fair |
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05:28.28 | naught101 | ahh, true |
05:28.59 | naught101 | wow, that's gotta be the first time that (k)ubuntu's gone for space saving over eye-candy... |
05:29.10 | naught101 | guess it might change by the time jaunty is released. |
05:29.31 | DaSkreech | it's a one button press to turn it on |
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05:39.49 | naught101 | yeah, I think it's great |
05:40.01 | naught101 | just wasn't used to it |
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05:47.00 | mdeanda | has anybody here been able to get flash10 to work on konq 3.5.x? i've seen online that people are having trouble with it on the kde4 line.. |
05:47.47 | justyb11 | mdeanda: The 64-bit flash worked just fine on Kubuntu 8.10 KDE 4.1 |
05:48.29 | mdeanda | is the 64 bit one flash10 also? if so, i may be ready to switch to 64bit finally.. hehe |
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05:50.14 | justyb11 | mdeanda: Yeah the 64-bit flash is flash 10. Careful it is marked alpha but I've had no problems with it |
05:50.50 | mdeanda | its strange though. b/c the flash10 works fine on firefox.. but konq just doesn't even show it on the list of plugins... |
05:50.53 | mdeanda | (yes i did a scan) |
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05:51.16 | justyb11 | mdeanda: Oh yeah that's because of a known problem. |
05:51.44 | mdeanda | i launched konq from command line, but there are no logs. how do i see logs? |
05:52.12 | mdeanda | justyb11: ahh.. which is the last version known to work? and how can i download it? |
05:53.09 | justyb11 | mdeanda: Well if you want to keep what you've got. I think you need to download an old version of flash |
05:53.56 | mdeanda | hmm. i guess it might be the time to try upgrading to kde4. :) |
05:54.07 | mdeanda | any pitfalls i should expect? |
05:54.39 | justyb11 | mdeanda: Not saying it's perfect but I've not run into any. |
05:55.03 | mdeanda | hehe.. as long as it runs flash10. :) my wife is starting to nag that many sites don't work.. |
05:55.03 | justyb11 | Ah ha! I remeber it now! |
05:55.41 | justyb11 | Flash 10 uses XEmbed. Konqueror does not implement this. |
05:55.49 | justyb11 | This is why it fails. |
05:56.14 | mdeanda | ahh.. interesting.. |
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05:56.29 | justyb11 | You can try this however. |
05:56.30 | mdeanda | does xembed fix the transparent flash problems on linux? |
05:56.43 | mdeanda | (where you can't see behind flash objects) |
05:56.44 | justyb11 | mdeanda: http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/ |
05:57.44 | justyb11 | The Xembed is meant to fix a number of issues. |
05:58.39 | mdeanda | woah. kmplayer has xembed? so i'm instead embedding kmplayer to play the flash that is inside kmplayer? that seems cool.. |
05:59.01 | justyb11 | yeah it is worth a try. |
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06:14.25 | arnoldk67 | Hello, how can i configure the icon that goes with a special mimetype? For example I want to change the icon that dolphin displays for odt and other opendocument files. |
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06:15.24 | DaSkreech | konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File associations -> ODt -> Icon |
06:15.31 | DaSkreech | or right click the Icon and change it |
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06:18.56 | arnoldk67 | DaSkreech: That's exactly my problem. It worked under KDE3 but now it doesn't I can't click the icon |
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06:20.23 | Emess | hey guys, in kde if i have autologin enabled, how do I have it so I can just ctrl-alt-8 to switch to VC/8 and it will present me with a login instead of a blank screen? I run a media centre app in VC/7 so can't just log out of it |
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06:22.51 | justyb11 | Emess: You'll need to start a second X session on boot up. |
06:23.26 | arnoldk67 | DaSkreech: Do you know if there is somewhere a config file that I can change with a texteditor, because on KDE4 the icon isn't a button on my KDE4/opensuse |
06:23.29 | Jucato | Emess: by "login" do you mean console login? |
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06:23.34 | Emess | justyb11, how would I go about that? |
06:23.41 | Emess | Jucato, no, a kdm login |
06:24.08 | Jucato | Emess: Start new session from the K Menu? |
06:24.17 | ksnash | how do you readd missing taskbar? |
06:24.18 | Emess | there is no kmenu |
06:24.37 | DaSkreech | arnoldk67: Hmm I changed my icon from there just a few days ago |
06:24.49 | Jucato | ksnash: right-click on panel or click on cashew/plasma icon -> Add Widgets -> Task Manager |
06:24.50 | Emess | Jucato, its setup to autologin to kde with a desktop file in autostart to load the MPC app, so there is no kmenu as such |
06:25.14 | Jucato | hm... ok... |
06:26.13 | Emess | justyb11, so just edit a second kdm instance into inittab? |
06:27.00 | ksnash | adding taskmanager is not adding taskbar. I have floating menu and systray though. |
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06:27.51 | Jucato | ksnash: the "taskbar" is the task manager. unless you mean "panel". right-click on desktop -> Add Panel |
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06:28.44 | ksnash | it just has add widgets. |
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06:30.11 | ksnash | not as bad though with taskman plasma deciding to come up on screen. |
06:32.50 | justyb11 | Emess: You can always put a command in /etc/rc.local |
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06:33.07 | justyb11 | Emess: You can always put a command in /etc/rc.local |
06:33.31 | justyb11 | Emess: So that it gets executed on boot. |
06:33.47 | justyb11 | Emess: Don't go messing with inittab. |
06:34.19 | justyb11 | Emess: Don't go messing with inittab. |
06:36.00 | justyb11 | Emess: And if you use Kubuntu there is no inittab. |
06:36.44 | Emess | Arch, not kubuntu |
06:37.03 | Emess | when i once used kubuntu tho I coudl just swtich to vc8 and it prompted me to login with kdm, i want to have that |
06:37.23 | justyb11 | Still though.. Don't co messing with inittab if you're not sure what to do. |
06:38.03 | justyb11 | If you don't mind go for it. |
06:38.06 | Emess | aye |
06:38.25 | Emess | I know how inittab works, I just dont get what id need to do to have that second kdm prompt |
06:40.12 | Emess | ok looks liek i borked something anyway |
06:42.54 | justyb11 | Why can't you just run kdm inside the second session? |
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06:45.27 | justyb11 | I've gotta get some sleep see ya! |
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06:51.15 | justyb11 | Emess: You may also want to look up the info on kdmrc file |
06:52.13 | justyb11 | You'll need to start the second X server and then as kdm starts up it's config file needs to know that it needs to start two local logins. |
06:52.38 | justyb11 | I didn't remember if I told you that before I left. |
06:52.51 | justyb11 | Anyway...Later. |
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07:13.35 | mustu | in dolphin file browser we see a green + n a red - sign on files n folder when cursor placed over them.. what does it mean? |
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07:16.08 | arnoldk67 | mustu: You can select and deselect the file there |
07:16.46 | mustu | arnoldk67: whatdeos it mean by giving a file green + or a red -? |
07:17.25 | mustu | arnoldk67: oka.. u mean selecting multiple files without using Ctrl...! |
07:17.27 | mustu | m i ritgh? |
07:17.30 | mustu | right* |
07:17.32 | Jucato | yes |
07:17.41 | Jucato | select/deselect |
07:17.41 | mustu | k thanx folks:) |
07:18.07 | mustu | i was wondering if its about making it favourite or bla bla |
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07:27.49 | mfwitten | Hey guys. I tried installing Fedora 10 with KDE4 on my old PowerBook G4 (500 Mhz, 128 MB RAM --one chip died ;-(, Rage128 GPU) However, I had all sorts of slow downs mostly due to various daemons and who knows what else. Now I've got gentoo installed (much cleaner!) and I've even managed to ensure DR[I | M] is working properly (depth 16). Should I give KDE4 another shot or is it really too much? |
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07:32.26 | mfwitten | Bueller? |
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07:34.59 | mfwitten | Onward to XFCE4 |
07:35.00 | mfwitten | take care |
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07:45.58 | silv3r_m00n | hi there |
07:46.00 | silv3r_m00n | i using kate |
07:46.44 | silv3r_m00n | say when i press tab 5 times the cursor moves forward then pressing an enter make the cursor go to start of new line |
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07:46.54 | silv3r_m00n | how can i make it preserve the identation (or come down vertically) |
07:46.56 | silv3r_m00n | anybody |
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07:47.59 | roshan08 | kget is unable to connect behind proxy , i have set the http_proxy variable |
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07:52.31 | silv3r_m00n | roshan08: so enjoy |
07:53.06 | roshan08 | silv3r_m00n, how can i enjoy help me out |
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07:55.11 | silv3r_m00n | roshan08: hmm right |
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07:56.35 | roshan08 | silv3r_m00n, does kget have proxy support? |
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07:58.41 | silv3r_m00n | it shud though i have never checked |
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08:05.10 | naught101 | wow.. I have a spare mouse cursor drawn on my screen that's not moving... |
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08:44.52 | czester | Hello |
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08:45.51 | czester | Does anyone have any howto about using dbus in kde? Because I can't figure out how does it work. |
08:46.13 | czester | I can't even understand the syntax. DCOP was much more easy. |
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08:52.22 | Defense|Twin | Hi, anyone knows what i can do if my akonadi gives me this error message: "MySQL server default configuration not found." ? my mysql server runs fine... so i dont know what this error means |
08:54.19 | Defense|Twin | brb |
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09:20.33 | erik-k | Anybody mind if I offer some general feedback on kde4 vs kde3? |
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09:58.58 | thym | anyone here? |
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09:59.47 | pinotree | just ask your question |
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10:00.44 | thym | well i installed kdm 4.1.3 and kde 4.1.3. when kdm tarts i get a nvidia splaskcreen, then a blackscreen and a mouse cursor 'loading' then it jsut does bgack to bash |
10:01.36 | thym | splashcreen |
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10:05.37 | freeedrich| | thym: distribution? |
10:05.47 | freeedrich| | error messages in /var/log/messages? |
10:05.52 | thym | gentoo |
10:06.25 | thym | no such file, although i think i found what may be the problem. dbus isnt set to start |
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10:06.46 | g-hennux | hi! |
10:06.59 | freeedrich| | um?! no /var/log/messages? |
10:07.08 | freeedrich| | syslog not running..? |
10:07.17 | g-hennux | in kde 4.2 beta (but also 4.1), why does kmail launch when i start an application launcher (i.e. krunner or lancelot)? |
10:07.38 | g-hennux | also, when i start kopete, kmail starts, seems to be some kind of "dependency" |
10:07.46 | g-hennux | to search contacts or the like |
10:07.49 | freeedrich| | uh? |
10:08.02 | freeedrich| | but that should be provided by akonadi.. :) |
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10:08.13 | thym | no idea its a fresh install :/ |
10:08.26 | freeedrich| | try disabling the "contacts" runner and have a look if loading krunner still gives those errors :) |
10:08.36 | g-hennux | freeedrich|: so it *is* possible that kmail was started (before akonadi) to be able to access certain contacts? |
10:09.02 | g-hennux | freeedrich|: ah, wait, i do have parts of my contact list on a "imap storage via kmail", would that be the reason? |
10:09.04 | freeedrich| | g-hennux: I sounds strange to me. I never encountered such issue. |
10:09.15 | freeedrich| | Yeah, maybe. |
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10:09.41 | g-hennux | but akonadi itself doesn't allow for that kind of storage, as far as i have seen, is that right? |
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10:14.47 | root | well apparently its fixed, needed to add dbus to default runlevel |
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10:24.39 | sandeepkumar | How to format a ntfs partition and create ext2 partition. what commands to use? |
10:24.59 | bonsaikitten | sandeepkumar: man fdisk, man mkfs |
10:25.20 | sandeepkumar | okay. i shall try those commands. |
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10:25.30 | marco | a question with strigi in kde 4.2 beta 2 |
10:26.01 | marco | if i tell strigi to index those folders: a,b,c strigi index it correctly |
10:26.35 | marco | when indexing is end i tell strigi to not index a anymore |
10:26.44 | marco | why the index element don't godown? |
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10:27.08 | sandeepkumar | fdisk and mkfs are not there on my system. How can i install those utilities.? |
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10:28.22 | g-hennux | sandeepkumar: this is not really a kde question... otherwise, check as root, these tools are usually in /usr/sbin, not /usr/bin |
10:28.45 | sandeepkumar | okay. |
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10:47.17 | tue | Hey! Im trying out 4.2 beta to on kubuntu intrepid and it looks really nice and seem very stable. However, it has a really strange issue: if i press eg. alt-tab or alt-f2 nothing happends except applications no longer recieve keyboard input and the mouse behaves as if the alt key is pressed all the time. ctrl-alt-backspace still works though, but needless to say its quite frustrating :-). problem persist with windows effects on and off and was not |
10:47.18 | tue | there with 4.0. or 4.1.3. |
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10:49.04 | tue | Does anyone have any idea what the problem can be? i have tried to search bug reports, etc. but so far i have not heard of others having this problem so it must be a configuration thing. i have tried to remove .kde, .kderc and nuking/recreating xorg.conf. |
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10:49.35 | g-hennux | tue: i believe there are big problems with shortcuts... |
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10:50.14 | tue | g-hennux: so its something other are experiencing as well? |
10:50.15 | g-hennux | tue: some global shortcuts work for one task, others don't, i can configure my "Media Play" key, but not "Media Next", etc. |
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10:50.23 | g-hennux | tue: not exactly your problem |
10:51.03 | g-hennux | tue: maybe yours has a completely different origin |
10:51.21 | tue | g-hennux: yah.. well, its that kind of things i would expect with a beta release. but its seems kindof drastic that i get *no* keyboard input whatsoever if i just press alt-tab :-) |
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10:52.28 | tue | should i file this as a kde bug report or just assume its a packaging issue from kubuntu? |
10:52.55 | g-hennux | do you see the window list when pressing alt-tab? |
10:53.07 | tue | no. nor do i see krunner if i press alt-f2. |
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10:53.42 | g-hennux | ok... well, might even be an X problem, or opengl or... hm, yeah maybe file as a bug |
10:54.10 | tue | however, i if i start krunner from the command line it is displayed.. i think i get the same keyboard lockup though (i wont try it now since i would have to logout) |
10:54.55 | tue | with fglrx and an ati x1300 that is not a very exotic explanation :-D |
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11:03.29 | BtbN | Is there a kde4-version of kile? |
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11:07.14 | zak | what command shall i use to determine what kde4 version am i using?i used to use this oon kde3.5 ''kde-config --version | grep KDE'' |
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11:09.41 | freeedrich| | zak: cat $(kde4-config --version) :) |
11:10.31 | stanley_ | Hi I have a PCMIA Wireless card for my laptop, should it run automatically or do I typically have to install it?? |
11:10.47 | freeedrich| | stanley_: wrong channel to ask I believe. :) |
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11:11.35 | stanley_ | hmmm really? ok then... |
11:13.05 | tue | stanley_: its very likely kubuntu or suse can configure it automatically. |
11:14.15 | farhad_hf | i have problems with compiling kdebase (svn-trunk) http://pastebin.ca/1290726 |
11:14.16 | tue | stanley_: when i was using gentoo wireless was allways a question of black magic and virgin blood, but since i began using kubuntu it has allways worked out of the box. |
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11:14.36 | stanley_ | oh really?? |
11:14.50 | stanley_ | I am using sabayon and my wireless is really a pain in the ass |
11:14.58 | stanley_ | maybe i am going to have to think about kubuntu |
11:15.04 | freeedrich| | stanley_: well. Is the interface and driver present? |
11:15.18 | freeedrich| | stanley_: no, don't do that. kunbuntu is a very bad choice. |
11:15.53 | stanley_ | i don't have the card with me right now, i was just curious i am going home tommorow and i can get a usb wirless dongle reallyc heap where I am now |
11:16.02 | stanley_ | wondering if i should buy that instead |
11:16.16 | stanley_ | so life just sux all around huh |
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11:17.32 | freeedrich| | stanley_: well. It's just a question whether you got the drivers loaded and working and the interface up. Then you can just install wicd for example and that will take care of configuring and connecting.. |
11:17.47 | stanley_ | yeeaa?? |
11:17.48 | stanley_ | ok |
11:18.01 | stanley_ | well i prefer having a pcmcia card to be honest...so i'm going to try |
11:18.27 | stanley_ | its a linksys card are pcmcia's usually a problem in linux? or do they configure as automatically as everything esle?? |
11:20.26 | freeedrich| | They should, if its configured in the kernel and if there is driver support. Go google that thing up and see if there are reports about using it on linux. |
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11:24.34 | zak | freeedrich|: i need to write this on my superkaramba theme |
11:24.47 | Psi-Jack | Why couldn't KDE keep dcop for basic use to interoperate with dbus? WHY WHY WHY?! |
11:25.01 | zak | ""cat: 4.4.3: No such file or directory" |
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11:34.04 | zak_ | freeedrich|: it was rather ''kde4-config --version | grep KDE'' |
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11:37.11 | Psi-Jack | Seriously! Can't KDE devs make like a dcop alternative? I liked dcop because it was simple, easy, and it just plain worked. |
11:38.07 | tue | is that a question? |
11:38.48 | bonsaikitten | Psi-Jack: interoperability ... as gnome wouldn't adapt dcop since they didn't invent it kde assimilated their dbus madness |
11:39.15 | bonsaikitten | a step back in my opinion, but how else can you get things to interact well :( |
11:39.17 | Psi-Jack | I know, but, couldn't dcop be made to interoperate with dbus? |
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11:39.54 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hello, I grabbed ksplashx (via svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/ksplash/ksplashx ) |
11:40.05 | Psi-Jack | Automating things in dbus for just basic use is like coding an entire webserver. dcop was simple, fast, and did the job needed. |
11:40.06 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: the question rather is: what are your concrete problems with it? |
11:40.06 | Dark_Apostrophe | Can anyone please tell me how to compile it? I tried making a directory called build, then doing cmake .. |
11:40.13 | Dark_Apostrophe | But it creates no makefile |
11:40.16 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: What I'd just said. |
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11:40.37 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: no, you haven't said any actual problem you have with dbus |
11:40.44 | Psi-Jack | Automating things in dbus for just basic use is like coding an entire webserver. dcop was simple, fast, and did the job needed. |
11:41.14 | Psi-Jack | dcop appname catname command |
11:41.31 | Psi-Jack | how hard was that to do? DBus's alternative takes a lot more. |
11:41.33 | pinotree | qdbus org.kde.appname /InterfaceName command |
11:41.34 | tue | using my new tv is like building a space shuttle. my old tv was easy like sunshine... |
11:41.55 | tue | this is a clear indication that sony sucks. |
11:41.56 | Psi-Jack | qdbus? |
11:42.01 | pinotree | qdbus. |
11:42.11 | Dark_Apostrophe | Anyone? =) |
11:42.25 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm, I wasn't aware of qdbus, but perhaps that may be a good alternative at least. |
11:42.46 | pinotree | Dark_Apostrophe: you cannot compile it standalone (and why would you, anyway?) |
11:42.52 | Dark_Apostrophe | Psi-Jack: qdbus works as a replacement for dcop - I updated my shell scripts with it when switching to KDE4. |
11:43.04 | Psi-Jack | Dark_Apostrophe: yeah. I'll look into it. |
11:43.15 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: Thanks. That may help a lot. ;) |
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11:43.28 | Psi-Jack | Course, I gotta re-lookup a lot of things now. But ahh well. |
11:43.47 | pinotree | Psi-Jack: lesson of the day: *before* whining against something, get the actual facts _right_. |
11:44.04 | Psi-Jack | How goes KDE's progress towards integrating KDE desktop enhancements into Firefox 3's newer ability to adapt it? ;D |
11:44.14 | pinotree | ask in #firefox |
11:44.42 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: It's up up to Firefox people to do it, They're not so interested in it. I wouldn't think. They made the feature available so it COULD be done. |
11:44.50 | Psi-Jack | not up* |
11:45.26 | pinotree | we don't develop not provide support for firefox, sorry |
11:45.44 | Psi-Jack | I'm not ASKING for support for it. :p |
11:46.12 | Psi-Jack | I'm asking if KDE's going to move on making use of Firefox's new desktop environment interopability features added since 3.0 |
11:46.12 | pinotree | you're ASKING something about firefox -- we know NOTHING about it |
11:46.30 | pinotree | we won't |
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11:46.44 | Psi-Jack | pinotree: You speak for all the KDE developers? |
11:46.57 | pinotree | i am a kde developer |
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11:48.45 | Psi-Jack | Well, I think that just made up my mind then. If KDE's developers don't care to make use of Firefox's new desktop environment extensions so they could extend it to work more fluidly with KDE with native KDE widgets and dialogs, and konquerer sucks for browsing with, I have no need for KDE anymore. Thank you. |
11:49.16 | pinotree | KDE's browser is konqueror, so KDE supports it |
11:49.27 | tue | your wellcome :-D |
11:49.38 | Psi-Jack | nods. "And yet everyone uses Firefox because it actually works with HTML standards. |
11:49.42 | pinotree | if anybody wants to do that firefox integration, it's their choise |
11:50.13 | pinotree | don't make me laugh, firefox does the same as IE when we speak about "standards" |
11:50.35 | pusling | Psi-Jack: wrong. firefox is more bug for bug compatible with internetexplorer than khtml is. The previous times I have reported bugs in khtml about rendering issues, it has actually been a firefox and ie bug. |
11:50.37 | pinotree | own extensions that people use thinking they are "standards", own bugs people rely upon |
11:50.37 | Psi-Jack | Firefox itself supports 90% or more of the W3C standards. IE less. |
11:50.38 | Jucato | "desktop environment integration"? what's that? |
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11:52.09 | tue | Psi-Jack: with firefox various extensions usually work better out of the box than with konqueorer, but this is more of an packaging issue.... |
11:52.56 | Psi-Jack | Hmm |
11:53.07 | tue | Psi-Jack: that, and the address bar thingy is the only thing that makes me use firefox over konqueorer.. |
11:53.23 | Psi-Jack | Heh, the address bar thingy? heh |
11:53.50 | Jucato | * Psi-Jack nods. "And yet everyone uses Firefox because it actually works with HTML standards. <--- definitely not *everyone*. just "a lot". and a lot of those don't use Firefox because of "standard compliance". a lot use it actually because it works around non-standards compliant webpages. and still a large number of users use it just because of extensions, not because of standards compliance |
11:53.52 | tue | the superbar or whatever its called |
11:54.35 | Psi-Jack | OKay.. Side question. Kmail is part of KDE, correct? |
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11:55.14 | tue | yep |
11:55.33 | Psi-Jack | Does it's IMAP implementation support IMAP IDLE as googlemail's IMAP servers support? |
11:56.49 | Psi-Jack | So you don't have to technically keep connecting every so often, it just stays idle and receives updates as they come in. |
11:58.54 | Psi-Jack | Seems to always bee the same answer to that question. No answer at all. :( |
11:59.17 | EvilGuru | Is there any way to debug dolpin, so when I execute it from the command line I can get the console output? |
11:59.18 | tue | i dont know anything about kmail. |
11:59.41 | tue | have you tried google? |
12:00.04 | Psi-Jack | tue: Yeah. I see lots of people asking about it. Bug reports. |
12:00.35 | Psi-Jack | Mostly pretty dated back |
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12:01.32 | tue | well, i dont really know about it. back pre-4.0 kmails codebase was quite a complicated thing, and that might still be true. so unfortunately it doesnt seem like its resieving a lot of attention. |
12:02.04 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: are you asking about IMAP's push-feature? |
12:02.05 | EvilGuru | As SFTP/FISH in Dolphin do not work, they connect to the server, but never ask for a password and I want some debugging output |
12:02.19 | Psi-Jack | g-hennux: No, IMAP's IDLE feature, which is PUSH-like. It's not the same, but close. |
12:02.25 | tue | i also think thats the reason for mailody, kmail is not the easiest place to start :-) |
12:02.45 | g-hennux | but kmail is one of the greatest email clients available :-) |
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12:02.51 | g-hennux | at least the best i've ever used |
12:02.55 | Psi-Jack | g-hennux: It would be, if it supported IDLE. ;) |
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12:03.49 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: where are the differences between push and idle? |
12:03.51 | Walex3 | Psi-Jack: ironically the biggest problem I have with KMail 3 is that it does not have an explic it *disconnect* or so I think. |
12:03.51 | Psi-Jack | One thing I like about Thunderbird is you can set it up to not have to keep reconnecting every so often, if it detects idle, it will stay connected and receive IDLE updates. If it disconnects prematurely, it re-connects. |
12:04.20 | Psi-Jack | g-hennux: Implementation. PUSH is Microsoft's propriatery Office Exchange stuff. |
12:04.34 | EvilGuru | Also, how can one get the search bar back in Konqeuror? I just get the address bar |
12:04.36 | Psi-Jack | IMAP IDLE, is specifically for IMAP. |
12:04.55 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: ah, i see |
12:04.57 | g-hennux | i think :) |
12:04.58 | Walex3 | An explicit disconnect is quite vital if one's IP address changes frequently. |
12:05.07 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: have you asked in #kontact? |
12:05.18 | Psi-Jack | Walex3: Why does it change often? |
12:05.44 | Psi-Jack | g-hennux: Why #kontact? This is for Kmail. Kontact is just an address book AFAIK. |
12:05.59 | pinotree | afaik... not |
12:06.03 | Walex3 | Psi-Jack: that does not matter -- having the abvility to connect/disconnect on request is just the right thing to do, as "automagic" often has unintended |
12:06.05 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: kontact is an aggregation of kde's PIM programs, including kmail afaik |
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12:06.20 | Psi-Jack | Hmmmm |
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12:06.29 | Psi-Jack | This since 4? |
12:06.43 | Walex3 | effects. Anyhow the IP address changes often because of going from home to office and back, and using various VPNs whioch get a different address every time they are opened. |
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12:07.12 | Psi-Jack | Walex3: Ahh, gotcha. That makes sense, then. |
12:07.32 | Psi-Jack | Walex3: Isn't there an offline mode or something? |
12:07.36 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: no, longer. i mean, actually kontact embeds only the kparts from kmail, korganizer, kabc etc., but this is all part of the pim suite and i think #kontact is the right place then |
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12:08.08 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hello, I grabbed ksplashx (via svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/ksplash/ksplashx ) |
12:08.08 | Walex3 | Psi-Jack: ah yes, I could switch to opffline and then back one to force disconnect and then reconnect. I'll have a look. |
12:08.10 | Psi-Jack | g-hennux: Alrighty. Thanks for that info then. |
12:08.11 | Dark_Apostrophe | Can anyone please tell me how to compile it? I tried making a directory called build, then doing cmake .. |
12:08.19 | pinotree | Dark_Apostrophe: again? |
12:08.26 | Psi-Jack | Walex3: I thought so. ;) |
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12:08.43 | Dark_Apostrophe | pinotree: Did you tell me how to do it? |
12:08.49 | Dark_Apostrophe | scrolls back up |
12:08.52 | pinotree | Dark_Apostrophe: you cannot compile it standalone (and why would you, anyway?) |
12:09.14 | Dark_Apostrophe | Well, because I want to be able to use nicer splash screens, from kde-look |
12:09.17 | g-hennux | Psi-Jack: if you discover a way to do that (or if you are willing to implement it and are looking for someone to help), ping me again :) |
12:09.24 | Dark_Apostrophe | And how would I then go about obtaining it? |
12:09.58 | pinotree | there's a misunderstanding on your side: ksplashx is just the engine, shipped already with a standard kde4 installation |
12:10.07 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hmm.. |
12:10.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | strange that I get an error when I try to run certain splash screens, then |
12:10.22 | pinotree | you can install themes normally from systemsettings → look → splash screen |
12:10.28 | Psi-Jack | g-hennux: Heh. I don't do C++, never got into it. Considering learning it though. Since Pascal, I've mostly focused on interpretted languages, perl, php, python, ruby, etc.. Even how moronic that may sound coming from Pascal and all. ;) |
12:10.32 | Dark_Apostrophe | "Unable to start ksplashx" |
12:10.36 | g-hennux | how can i find out if nepomuk is going crazy? this service runs at 96% cpu all the time and i cannot really see any form of... "progress" or so |
12:10.44 | pinotree | incomplete installation? |
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12:10.56 | Dark_Apostrophe | pinotree: Beats me.. it's from Debian Experimental |
12:11.08 | pinotree | then #debian-kde is for you |
12:12.06 | andinator | hi guys, i need to know in which file i can place a command to be executed when kdm launches. its kde 4.1.3 and it doesnt work like in kde3 with the Xsetup/Xstartup/Xsession files... |
12:12.42 | g-hennux | andinator: when kdm launches or when kde is started? |
12:12.46 | Dark_Apostrophe | pinotree: asked |
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12:13.12 | andinator | g-hennux: before i login |
12:13.17 | root | hi |
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12:13.37 | andinator | when i see the login form it should be launched already |
12:13.52 | g-hennux | andinator: hm, ok, dunno |
12:14.04 | andinator | i placed it in /etc/kde4/xinit/xinitrc.common but then its launched after login |
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12:15.50 | g-hennux | andinator: what is your actual problem that you try to solve using that? |
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12:23.37 | neeku | hi |
12:23.51 | neeku | how can i copy/paste a file from desktop |
12:23.58 | neeku | there are no right click items there! |
12:24.06 | neeku | is new to kde |
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12:25.32 | jazka | add a folder view plasmoid |
12:26.08 | jazka | right click on the desktop and unlock the widgets if they're locked, and right click again and choose add widgets |
12:26.13 | jazka | and look for folder view |
12:26.13 | neeku | jazka: how? |
12:26.17 | neeku | ahaan |
12:27.15 | neeku | file watcher maybe? |
12:27.20 | neeku | there's no folder view |
12:27.53 | andinator | g-hennux: id like to run synergy, a tool which shares mouse&keyboard to another pc, it works after logging in, but id like to have it working before so i can type username/password at the other pcs kayboard |
12:28.03 | neeku | jazka: ^ |
12:28.07 | jazka | hmm no, it's folder view, what distro are you using? maybe you're missing some package |
12:28.17 | neeku | suse |
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12:28.22 | neeku | suse 11 |
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12:28.49 | jazka | maybe it is in kde4-plasma-addons |
12:29.15 | g-hennux | andinator: and is it necessary to start with kdm or could it start independent of that? |
12:30.01 | jazka | neeku: ah, and I hope you're not using the 4.0.x release of kde4 |
12:30.13 | andinator | g-hennux: i dont know, you might have a look at http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/autostart.html |
12:30.18 | Katagia | Hi. I have a little problem with kde4 and opensuse 11.0. When I press the power button settings in kpowersave is ignored. How can I fix this? The button works in console |
12:30.49 | neeku | jazka: unfortunately i do, but i'm updating it now |
12:30.57 | neeku | i think it'll last till night |
12:31.08 | jazka | yea you should |
12:31.27 | neeku | ok, then let's try it later! :) |
12:31.32 | neeku | thanks anyways :) |
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12:32.40 | g-hennux | andinator: hm, ok. have you tried /etc/kde4/kdm/? |
12:33.07 | andinator | yes, i did, there were no files like the ones being mentioned, but i created them |
12:33.36 | andinator | but that didnt change anything |
12:33.48 | g-hennux | andinator: i do have Xreset Xsession Xsetup Xstartup Xwilling in that directory |
12:34.03 | andinator | it just worked with /etc/kde4/xinit/xinitrc.common |
12:34.14 | andinator | g-hennux: i dont, any suggestions why? |
12:34.24 | g-hennux | andinator: no :D |
12:34.32 | andinator | g-hennux: may you paste me one of the contents? |
12:34.50 | andinator | perhaps i can use your files and add the necessary code |
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12:35.07 | andinator | i found these files in /etc/X11/xdm/ but not in the kdm folder |
12:37.11 | g-hennux | andinator: http://pastebin.com/m66181599 -> go for Xsetup, i think |
12:37.30 | g-hennux | andinator: and don't forget to make executable |
12:37.51 | andinator | they are, i also noticed that they have to |
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12:37.59 | andinator | but thats the xreset file isnt it? |
12:38.08 | andinator | ah, are all of em |
12:38.24 | grandi | so is 2009 going to be the year of the linux desktop? |
12:38.34 | andinator | y? |
12:38.41 | jazka | yes, as every previous years! |
12:38.45 | jazka | :) |
12:38.51 | andinator | linux is on its way forward, but mac os also... |
12:39.06 | grandi | jazka: so I figured :P |
12:39.12 | andinator | s/linux/linux as desktop/ |
12:39.41 | grandi | linux apps tend to be bit unfinished and that can be really annoying |
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12:40.27 | tue | it depends on what one mean with the year of linux on the desktop. |
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12:41.25 | grandi | i don't know. what it has been meant by all these years i guess |
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12:46.26 | serenity | hi |
12:46.44 | andinator | g-hennux: did it, restarting now |
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12:47.07 | serenity | i switched my desktop and now it shows the icons right on my desktop. is there a way to switch back? |
12:47.41 | Phlogi | has gtk-qt-engine been moved into kde? |
12:48.11 | kdepepo | no |
12:49.17 | andinator | g-hennux: seems that these files arent executed, doesnt work at all... |
12:49.30 | serenity | i can add folder view, but dunno how to get rid of these icons on my desktop |
12:49.43 | andinator | it is |
12:49.53 | kdepepo | serenity, there is a desktop mode in plasma config dialog |
12:50.03 | andinator | serenity: richt klick desktop |
12:50.16 | andinator | desktop settings |
12:50.24 | serenity | nope |
12:50.33 | serenity | it was there when folderview was on |
12:50.35 | andinator | and unter "type" at the top you choose the first setting |
12:50.45 | serenity | now with icons on desktop it is gone |
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12:52.42 | serenity | in german, but there is no way: http://beyond-serenity.homelinux.org/Screenshot8.jpeg |
12:53.26 | kdepepo | serenity, click the cashew... it should have configuring dialog |
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12:54.06 | andinator | serenity: also auf deutsch^^ hm, seltsam, bei mir is da ein eintrag |
12:54.10 | zak_ | i kept a copy of the folder konqueror , i just want to keep the bookmarks of my konqueror , now i moved to opensuse 11.1 where shall i copy this folder to get my bookmarks? |
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12:55.30 | jazka | zak_: .kde4/share/apps/ I'd sau |
12:55.31 | jazka | y |
12:55.48 | serenity | kdepepo: nope |
12:56.33 | kdepepo | serenity, then you have to manually remove the entry from .kde/share/config/plasmarc |
12:56.45 | zak_ | jazka: i'd sau? |
12:56.52 | jazka | I'd say |
12:57.01 | serenity | kdepepo: i crashed plasma, did the job ;) |
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12:57.30 | zak_ | jazka: what file sha ll i copy to get my bookmarks? |
12:57.48 | jazka | I see bookmarks.xml there so that? |
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12:58.04 | zak_ | jazka: lemme check |
12:58.28 | Nikerabbit | how do I enable scim/skim in kde4? |
12:59.04 | zak_ | jazka: back/tbcache?i have 2 files actually |
12:59.04 | jazka | Nikerabbit: have you been using it before? |
12:59.14 | Nikerabbit | jazka: yes |
12:59.56 | jazka | zak_: copy them all |
13:00.18 | jazka | bookmarks.xml bookmarks.bak and tbcache |
13:00.22 | jazka | xml.bak* |
13:00.48 | zak_ | done? |
13:00.58 | zak_ | shall i logout /in ? |
13:01.06 | jazka | restart konqueror? |
13:01.38 | zak_ | done :) |
13:01.41 | zak_ | thanks man :) |
13:02.08 | jazka | Nikerabbit: so do you get the scim icon in systray? |
13:03.14 | jazka | if you have your environment variables correctly set, try running "scim -d" |
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13:03.49 | Nikerabbit | jazka: yes I have it |
13:04.09 | jazka | does it work on any apps? like gtk apps |
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13:04.45 | Nikerabbit | jazka: yes, in firefox at least |
13:04.49 | jazka | QT_IM_MODULE=scim-bridge <- works for me |
13:04.54 | jazka | what's your QT_IM_MODULE |
13:04.59 | jazka | export|grep QT_IM |
13:05.52 | Nikerabbit | scim |
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13:06.04 | Nikerabbit | export QT_IM_MODULE="scim" |
13:06.04 | Nikerabbit | export QT4_IM_MODULE="scim" |
13:06.07 | Nikerabbit | in my .xprofile |
13:06.12 | jazka | try scim-bridge |
13:06.17 | jazka | and make sure it's installed |
13:06.24 | jazka | I think I had to change to scim-bridge, to get it working |
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13:06.45 | jazka | I use it for GTK and QT |
13:08.17 | jazka | you can test it after installing scim-bridge, run QT_IM_MODULE="scim-bridge" kwrite & on konsole, for example |
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13:09.19 | Nikerabbit | hmm |
13:09.43 | Nikerabbit | it works on if I start from konsole |
13:09.53 | Nikerabbit | but it doesn't work on konsole that is restored with the session |
13:10.04 | jazka | with scim or with scim-bridge? |
13:10.10 | Nikerabbit | with both |
13:10.35 | jazka | well, you need to logout and log in after changing your .xprofile to scim-bridge |
13:11.07 | Nikerabbit | I did restart X, it is not about that |
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13:13.09 | Nikerabbit | it also doesn't work if I launch it from alt+f2 |
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13:30.08 | Ace2016_- | Hi all |
13:30.13 | Ace2016_- | i'm partitioning my drive now |
13:30.30 | Ace2016_- | is there a way to tell kde to use a GB as 1024kb rather than 1000kb? |
13:30.54 | Ace2016_- | because i would like to have the 1024mb partition show up as 1024mb |
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13:38.26 | g-hennux | andinator: hm, dann keine idee |
13:45.34 | Nikerabbit | argh, why doesn't okular remember to start maximised whatever I do |
13:45.54 | pinotree | known kdelibs bug, solved with beta2 or kde 4.1.4 |
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13:47.15 | Nikerabbit | Ace2016_-: you seem to be confused about how bytes are calculated |
13:51.57 | Ace2016_- | Nikerabbit: i don't think i am |
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13:54.56 | Azzco | Hi I was wondering if anyone has any tips for integrated text editor (need to do a ton of small edit to text files in different folders) for dolphin. |
13:54.58 | Nikerabbit | Ace2016_-: well, I'm pretty sure KDE uses (2^10)^3 as the definition GB everywhere, and "kb" and "mb" are not what you mean if anything |
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13:55.51 | jazka | mb, millibit? |
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13:56.27 | silv3r_m00n | hi there |
13:56.38 | silv3r_m00n | how can i run the control center from console |
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13:56.41 | silv3r_m00n | what command shud i give |
13:56.46 | jazka | systemsettings |
13:56.49 | jazka | or kcontrol |
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13:59.29 | Guest23583 | any one can help me in color approximation |
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14:00.48 | Nikerabbit | jazka: so no further ideas? |
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14:01.29 | jazka | nope, sorry |
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14:01.50 | jazka | do you have scim -d starting in your .kde4/Autostart/somescript ? |
14:02.05 | root | nav |
14:04.33 | Nikerabbit | jazka: nope |
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14:16.37 | andinator | anybody else got an idea how to start something together with kdm? |
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14:17.39 | Ace2016_- | andinator: edit the X session startup scripts i guess |
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14:19.04 | andinator | Ace2016_-: with kde 3.5 (openSUSE 11.0) it worked without doing that, but i dont remember how and now its kde4.1.3 |
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14:19.40 | Jucato | it should be the same. X is X, no matter what KDE version |
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14:20.38 | andinator | hm, but not kdm |
14:20.47 | mustu | I've installed new KDE themes by default Desktop Settings panel... but they are not listed in thems list... |
14:20.56 | mustu | do i need to restart X? |
14:21.13 | Ace2016_- | andinator: are you looking to run something on login or kdm startup? for kdm specific startup you could look at the files in /etc/kde4/kdm |
14:21.18 | andinator | and it was something in the Xsetup/Xsession/Xstartup files which didnt exist by default in kdm(kde4) but in kdm(kde3) |
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14:21.27 | Jucato | mustu: not really. at most you'll need to restart Plasma. Alt+F2, "kquitapp plasma && plasma" |
14:21.42 | andinator | Ace2016_-: yes, there are the files which worked with kdm3 |
14:21.51 | Ace2016_- | so edit those files in kde4 |
14:22.31 | andinator | i did |
14:22.42 | andinator | i created them because they didnt exist first |
14:22.46 | mustu | will it disconnect my irc client audio layer etc? |
14:23.53 | Ace2016_- | mash__: no, unless they are plasma widgets |
14:24.02 | Jucato | mustu: no. it will just restart the desktop (background) and the panel |
14:24.30 | mustu | Jucato: still new themes are not in the list :| |
14:27.35 | mustu | hello room ..any clue! |
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14:31.45 | g-hennux | how can i use the "back/forward" buttons on my mouse in konqueror? |
14:31.50 | g-hennux | in firefox, they work out of the box |
14:31.52 | g-hennux | this is 4.2 beta |
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15:04.08 | cenuij | I have an issue with changing colours/fonts/desktop effects. Any changes to these while desktop effects are enabled crashes X/kwin/system so badly that I cant even rocoer with SysRq |
15:04.18 | cenuij | s/recoer/recover |
15:04.48 | cenuij | is this a kde or nvidia issue? |
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15:05.07 | cenuij | cant seem to cut through all the chaff about these to find out what is to blame :< |
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15:41.53 | g-hennux | my kabc keeps on forgetting about resources... |
15:42.12 | g-hennux | i.e. the akonadi and the imap-contact resource are gone on every 2nd startup |
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15:50.43 | EvilGuru | Is there an applet equivalent to Kima for KDE4? |
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15:53.41 | xxl | ... |
15:54.03 | xxl | some one? |
15:54.12 | xxl | here |
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15:57.38 | parph | Where and how do I run kde weather applet in 4.1? I don't see it anywhere, but I have the package installed (new to kde 4) |
15:58.19 | pinotree | there's no wheather applet in kde 4.1 |
15:58.58 | parph | I have a package installed called kde4-kweather |
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16:02.27 | pinotree | yes, it does not provide a plasma applet |
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17:05.38 | eggy_ | Hello, how can I make dolphin preview png images in kde4? |
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17:06.26 | eggy_ | Like, show thumbnails for every image in the currenct directory? |
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17:10.52 | eggy_ | Or konqueror? That will suffice also. I'm really having trouble finding a program that can just display all images in a folder, so I can easily find the thing I seek |
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17:12.09 | g-hennux | eggy_: gwenview? |
17:12.48 | eggy_ | g-hennux: how do I get gwenview to open a folder, and display all images? Because I didn't see that option |
17:12.59 | eggy_ | Only one at a time |
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17:13.11 | g-hennux | upper left "browse"? |
17:13.15 | Mirra | is KDE4 really easier on ressources? |
17:13.18 | g-hennux | which version of kde are you talking about? |
17:13.53 | eggy_ | g-hennux: hah! I'm such a retard. Thanks |
17:14.10 | g-hennux | eggy_: np :) |
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17:17.13 | Bou | hello |
17:17.48 | Bou | is there a simple way to install google gadgets in KDE 4.2 (trunk) ? |
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17:25.48 | eggy_ | Another question. With desktop effects enabled, everything works very slow. But without them, I cannot make konsole use transparency. How can I get it to use pseudo-transparency, like in kde3? |
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17:26.20 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
17:26.31 | Ronis_BR | how i can configure meterological station LCD for plasma? |
17:27.00 | EagleScreen | Ronis_BR good question, i am also interested |
17:27.07 | Ronis_BR | :) |
17:27.43 | Ronis_BR | btw, kde 4.2b2 is much better than 4.1.* |
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17:28.00 | Hydrogen | that would be the goal :) |
17:28.20 | Ronis_BR | unfortunatley the bug that stole our RAM is back againg |
17:28.22 | Ronis_BR | again* |
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17:33.15 | EagleScreen | i am using now konversatio 1.1 on KDE 4.2beta2 |
17:33.42 | EvilGuru | In KDE3 Konqueror had a search bar on the right hand side, next to the address bar, is this still around in 4? |
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17:34.23 | EagleScreen | when i click on an URL in konversation, a dialog is offered to choose an application to open the URL, i choose Internet->Konqueror, but it is not open |
17:35.00 | EagleScreen | EvilGuru i have it |
17:37.41 | EvilGuru | EagleScreen: Is it a toolbar item? |
17:38.03 | Jucato | EvilGuru: look for a konq-plugins package (for KDE 4) from your distro |
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17:38.48 | EvilGuru | Jucato: Ah, same as it was in KDE3 (an extra) |
17:39.01 | EagleScreen | yes |
17:39.04 | EvilGuru | Also, I remember reading about a Webkit KPart, is this stable/real at all? |
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17:39.26 | Jucato | real? yes. stable? nope |
17:39.33 | EagleScreen | konqueror-plugin-searchbar in kubuntu |
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17:41.02 | EvilGuru | Be interested how it turns out, as Webkit often does a better job at page-layout than KHTML |
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17:42.42 | White_Pelican | is there anyway to change where kaddressbook stores the addressbook? |
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17:43.40 | EvilGuru | Kdevelop 4 seems awesome though, can't wait for it to be released |
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17:55.41 | White_Pelican | can anyone answer my question? |
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17:59.24 | ninjaslim | this is my xorg.conf http://omploader.org/vMTFnNw/xorg.conf |
17:59.37 | ninjaslim | i can't get opengl effects in kwin4 to work, i'm run kde 4.1.1 |
17:59.47 | ninjaslim | they start and then fail during the loading process |
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17:59.57 | ninjaslim | my graphics card is an intel gma950 |
18:00.17 | ninjaslim | could somebody please point out what i might be doing wrong, i've checked other configuration guides to no avail |
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18:06.06 | ninjaslim | anyone? |
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18:09.59 | brot_laptop | yays |
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18:17.52 | ninjaslim | anyone? |
18:18.06 | FiNeX | ninjaslim: maybe |
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18:34.10 | Simkin | hey guys |
18:34.14 | Simkin | i'm having a problem with dcop server |
18:34.19 | Simkin | enver had this problem before.. any ideas? |
18:34.21 | Simkin | http://pastebin.com/d33d90e50 |
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18:47.14 | EvilGuru | How can I set the theme of GTK applications in KDE. .gtkrc-2.0 doesn't seem to be working |
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19:02.32 | natschil | hello, how do I use qdbusxml2cpp in a qmake project? |
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19:05.49 | pinotree | natschil: #qt |
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19:07.03 | natschil | pinotree: I tried there already :), but as I found a useful tutorial in the kde techbase that mentioned using qdbus2xml, I thought I could get more clarification here |
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19:07.38 | pinotree | natschil: well, this is an user channel (the right channel is #kde-devel); but we would help you only with cmake, not qmake |
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19:08.47 | natschil | ok, I'll ask in kde-devel |
19:08.49 | natschil | thanks |
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19:14.42 | Ace2016_- | Hi all |
19:14.51 | Ace2016_- | does kde4 have a pixmap based theme engine? |
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19:19.11 | pht | I just installed kde 4.2 beta2, and the mouse gestures are gone. wtf? |
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19:22.43 | Egyptian[Home] | hi |
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19:22.53 | Egyptian[Home] | how harmful to my system is it if i remove dolphin? |
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19:26.22 | Jucato | Egyptian[Home]: depending on the way it was packaged, but basically yes. Dolphin also provides the "file view" functionality that Konqueror uses |
19:26.30 | Jucato | (as well as the open/save dialogs |
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19:27.24 | Jucato | Ace2016_-: none that I know of |
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19:29.25 | Egyptian[Home] | Jucato: you mean i CANT remove it? |
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19:30.05 | Jucato | you *can*, but you shouldn't. and I would guess that your distribution has packaged it in a way that removing it will remove essential parts of KDE as well |
19:30.14 | Jucato | why do you want to remove it? |
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19:31.11 | Egyptian[Home] | Jucato: coz i HATE it |
19:31.13 | Egyptian[Home] | :) |
19:31.19 | Egyptian[Home] | excuse my outburst |
19:31.47 | Jucato | then don't use it. use Konqueror (which actually uses dolphin) |
19:34.05 | Ace2016_- | Egyptian[Home]: why not just set konqueror as the default file browser? |
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19:35.40 | Egyptian[Home] | Ace2016_-: i want konqueror for the automoutn thingy in the bar |
19:35.54 | Egyptian[Home] | Ace2016_-: how do i set konqueror fo rthat? |
19:36.09 | Egyptian[Home] | "new device notifier" |
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19:38.38 | lordofthepigs | Hello! I'm using Kde 4.2 beta 2. |
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19:39.00 | lordofthepigs | I can't find out how I can make my taskbar plasmoid to only show windows in the current desktop |
19:39.42 | lordofthepigs | It seems the default behavior is to show all windows from all of my desktops, but I really only want to see the windows open on the current desktop. |
19:40.57 | serenity | lordofthepigs: rightclick your panel, configure...under filters you can switch it on |
19:40.59 | Bou | lordofthepigs: click the cashew to enter "edit settings" mode of the panel |
19:41.09 | BULLE | mmm, cashew nuts |
19:41.15 | Bou | lordofthepigs: then right click on taskbar |
19:41.29 | Bou | lordofthepigs: "task manager settings" |
19:41.32 | Bou | lordofthepigs: it's there |
19:42.00 | lordofthepigs | thanks Bou |
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19:42.06 | Bou | lordofthepigs: found? |
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19:42.48 | lordofthepigs | yeah. It really should be accessible like the settings of all other plasmoids |
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19:43.13 | Bou | lordofthepigs: yes, weird that you have to edit panel to access it |
19:43.16 | GraveDigger | likes bespin kde style |
19:43.16 | lordofthepigs | it seems to be the only plasmoid for which you need to actually enter the settings mode to setup |
19:43.31 | Bou | lordofthepigs: yep |
19:43.32 | GraveDigger | it has a feature that lets switching between tabs in konsole and yakuake fade smoothly |
19:43.35 | GraveDigger | looks very nice |
19:43.36 | GraveDigger | :) |
19:43.37 | lordofthepigs | Oh, well... Thanks for you help |
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19:44.20 | lordofthepigs | Oh, and any idea why all my plasmoids that try to connect to internet crash the plasma deamon? |
19:44.59 | GraveDigger | maybe because the plasma daemon is buggy... |
19:45.00 | GraveDigger | :) |
19:45.03 | junkDawgie | which plasmoids? |
19:45.05 | lordofthepigs | All the comic, weather, RSS etc... plasmoids all crash the deamon. |
19:45.20 | lordofthepigs | It seems to only affect those that try to connect to the internet |
19:45.35 | junkDawgie | konqueror does the web okay, thou? |
19:45.52 | lordofthepigs | Konqueror itself works. |
19:46.03 | lordofthepigs | I haven't tried the "web browser" plasmoid though. |
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19:46.16 | lordofthepigs | I'm on Kubuntu intrepid amd64 |
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19:46.50 | arun_ | I dont see the network manager icon anymore. It disappeared when I tried to connect to a different wireless network but hasnt appeared since. |
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19:47.00 | arun_ | I am using the kde 4.2 nightly build |
19:47.04 | lordofthepigs | let me try that "web browser plasmoid", see what happens |
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19:47.33 | Bou | lordofthepigs: got an answer from #plasma: you can edit taskbar setting directly if you right click an empty area of the taskbar |
19:47.34 | GraveDigger | arun_: networkmanager is not kde, ask in your distros channel |
19:47.37 | junkDawgie | bets it crashes plasma too |
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19:47.59 | lordofthepigs | actually, it doesn't... |
19:48.11 | arun_ | thanks GraveDigger, so ws that he application which was showing my wireless connections |
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19:48.17 | Bou | lordofthepigs: the right click on task entry is used for another thing and not mergable with the edit action |
19:48.22 | simi | hi, any ideea how can i extend the context menu in kruner system activity? i want to add a "instant kill" using the command "kill -19" |
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19:49.17 | lordofthepigs | Is it possible that konqueror and the other plasmoid use different HTTP APIs? |
19:49.19 | picca- | i have justed compiled KDE from SVN and have to say KDE is now something exceptional .. this is going to be a stella release |
19:51.38 | junkDawgie | i keep hearing that picca, i'm not in a position to try a beta, so i have to wait... sigh |
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19:52.47 | lordofthepigs | I love 4.2 though, even though I have those small problems... |
19:53.02 | lordofthepigs | I'm sure they'll be fixed at some point. |
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19:54.04 | junkDawgie | i hope the jan release has no glaring errors... it's been a frustrating process i'm sure. |
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19:55.36 | picca- | junkDawgie: i am really impressed with kde 4.2 - it seems so stable and i think this will be a big release |
19:56.11 | junkDawgie | i've gotten the same observation from others, picca... it's a very good omen |
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19:57.04 | picca- | all i need know is a stable koffice and a kde 4 version of knetworkmanager - then i will be happy |
19:57.04 | kiCkar_ | hi i just installed system-config-manager and i am getting an error fd = open('/etc/sysconfig/i18n', 'w') |
19:57.04 | kiCkar_ | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/etc/sysconfig/i18n' |
19:57.05 | picca- | know=now |
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19:57.05 | kiCkar_ | and i have already installed kde-i18n |
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19:57.31 | pyther | Hello |
19:57.40 | pyther | What rendering backend does konqueror use? |
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19:58.43 | jazka | khtml? |
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20:00.21 | pyther | jazka, so it isn't based off webkit? |
20:00.37 | jazka | webkit is based on khtml |
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20:04.02 | pyther | jazka, ahh ok |
20:04.29 | pyther | because the site messed using libwebkit, but worked in konquorer :-/ |
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20:09.14 | Gast456 | guten abend |
20:09.19 | NewToSabayon | hi all...how do you reinstall kdeprint manager module from scratch |
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20:10.04 | NewToSabayon | when i open KDE print manager it hangs...please...help me |
20:10.22 | picca- | NewToSabayon: in KDE 4? |
20:10.41 | NewToSabayon | how to check the KDE version?...sorry I am new to linux |
20:11.02 | picca- | NewToSabayon: i have the same problem in KDE 4 |
20:11.16 | NewToSabayon | hmmm...then i think i have KDE 4 |
20:11.21 | tuxick | there's a very annoying cussor bouncing on my mouse pointer, and no idea what it is |
20:11.28 | tuxick | how to find out and end this annoyance? |
20:11.41 | tuxick | without restarting kde that is |
20:11.48 | NewToSabayon | picca: but how to find the version of KDE |
20:12.05 | NewToSabayon | picca: is there a command which will give me the KDE ver number? |
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20:12.51 | tuxick | anyone? |
20:13.00 | NewToSabayon | brohters and sisters of the great KDE clan...HELP ME...PLEASEEEE |
20:13.02 | tuxick | screw it, i'll do the windows thing |
20:13.18 | tuxick | what a waste of time |
20:13.33 | NewToSabayon | tuxick...change the theme to something else |
20:13.48 | tuxick | it's not a theme thing, something happened that triggered this |
20:13.52 | tuxick | probably javascript or so |
20:14.36 | NewToSabayon | well...i have the mouse cursor which always attaches the icon which u have clicked to the mouse cursor and bounces till it opens |
20:14.53 | tuxick | hmm |
20:15.41 | NewToSabayon | if it keeps on bouncing then the problem is with the application which is currently loading |
20:16.55 | kiCkar_ | hey how to start Kxkb? |
20:17.51 | NewToSabayon | dont start now tell me how to stop |
20:18.53 | gkiagia | kiCkar_: from kcontrol/systemsettings. just configure a keyboard layout |
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20:20.00 | gkiagia | NewToSabayon: all kde apps display the kde version in help->about kde |
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20:21.12 | NewToSabayon | 3.5.10 |
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20:21.35 | gkiagia | tuxick: you mean the launch feedback bounce? this is configurable |
20:21.38 | EagleSn | Sysinfo for 'kairi': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.1.85 (KDE 4.2 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T2390 @ 1.86GHz at 800 MHz (3724 bogomips), HD: 27/226GB, RAM: 1711/1999MB, 137 proc's, 41.3min up |
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20:22.16 | EagleSn | command /sysinfo shows your information if you use konversation |
20:22.57 | gkiagia | NewToSabayon: probably ask your distro channel for how to reinstall |
20:23.41 | NewToSabayon | will it reinstall my printer module from scratch |
20:23.44 | gkiagia | EagleSn: you are running the kde4 version of konversation? |
20:24.03 | EagleSn | negative |
20:24.06 | gkiagia | NewToSabayon: ?? |
20:24.22 | gkiagia | hmm, then why it displays kde 4.1.85? :S |
20:24.37 | EagleSn | becouse it is my KDe version |
20:25.06 | NewToSabayon | gkiagia: i have issues with my print manager, when i open it, it just freezes |
20:25.10 | EagleSn | i use konversation 1.1 |
20:25.26 | gkiagia | yeah but kde apps usually report the version number found in the kdelibs instance that they use. so kde3 konversation uses kdelibs 3.5.x, and should display that |
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20:25.49 | EagleSn | yes, i know, it surprised me too |
20:26.13 | gkiagia | NewToSabayon: strange, but no idea what could cause that. |
20:26.13 | EagleSn | if i go to Help->About konversation, it reports KDE 3.5.10 |
20:26.37 | gkiagia | and I rarely use the printer, so I have no clue how printer-related stuff works |
20:26.42 | EagleSn | but with /sysinfo command, it reports right KDE version of the "enviroment" |
20:26.57 | EagleSn | surely anew feature of 1.1 version |
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20:30.46 | |--jess--|| | hi |
20:30.48 | |--jess--|| | how do I copy my data from kontact (kde3) to kontact (kde4)? The kde3 files are located in ~/.kde, the kde4 files in ~/.kde4 |
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20:35.33 | |--jess--|| | forget my question, I got the answer elsewere |
20:36.01 | GraveDigger | no one did ever mind ^^ |
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20:43.04 | tuxick | time to restart kde anyway |
20:43.13 | tuxick | konq got 10 times slower than i can allow |
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20:51.48 | Mirrakor | hm.. where's the KDE bug squad channel? :D |
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20:59.28 | simi | hi, any ideea how can i extend the context menu in kruner system activity? i want to add a "instant kill" using the command "kill -19" |
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21:00.24 | sredna | wants to kill krunner because it is slow |
21:00.40 | lordofthepigs | Oh, does Katapult work on Kde4? |
21:00.57 | lordofthepigs | I find the way it works slightly nicer than Krunner |
21:01.13 | tictric | lordofthepigs: how come? |
21:01.26 | sredna | there is no good way to start apps in kde 4, except konsole. everything else is slow and cumbersome :-) |
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21:02.07 | lordofthepigs | well, I don't know... |
21:02.19 | lordofthepigs | Heh... i guess I'm just resisting change |
21:02.30 | lordofthepigs | I'll get over it after a while, I guess |
21:02.31 | tictric | sredna: You can stay with kde 3.5 until ... don't know |
21:02.58 | lordofthepigs | Actually, I really like kde 4. |
21:03.10 | lordofthepigs | I like the elegance of the plasmoid design. |
21:03.23 | lordofthepigs | Love the folder view plasmoid |
21:03.43 | tictric | I don't think Alt-F2 to be very cumbersome |
21:03.53 | luke-jr | I see no difference between Plasma and the old KDesktop |
21:03.58 | luke-jr | s/KDesktop/Kicker |
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21:04.15 | luke-jr | the KDE 4 Alt-F2 is vastly inferior to the KDE 3 |
21:04.33 | luke-jr | tictric: KDE 3.5 is not maintained ☹ |
21:04.44 | luke-jr | and KDE 4 is *in general* better |
21:04.49 | luke-jr | just a few annoyances |
21:05.14 | Mirrakor | "I got to admit, it's getting better, getting better all the time" (quote from ... ? :) ) |
21:05.30 | luke-jr | Mirrakor: Beatles -- Getting Better |
21:05.36 | Mirrakor | score :) |
21:06.02 | luke-jr | I've got high hopes for 4.2 |
21:06.15 | luke-jr | I desperately hope KOrganizer is usable again |
21:06.47 | Mirrakor | luke-jr: 4.2 is getting nice :) |
21:06.48 | luke-jr | my bugs are still all open tho so I get the feeling it won't be |
21:06.50 | genady12 | someone can help me get kwin composite work? compiz works but kwin composite not |
21:06.57 | luke-jr | genady12: it's not worth it |
21:07.02 | genady12 | ? |
21:07.05 | luke-jr | compositing creates too much lag |
21:07.21 | genady12 | and compiz? |
21:07.28 | Mirrakor | luke-jr: what's not working for you in KOrganizer? |
21:07.30 | luke-jr | no idea, I haven't used it since before Beryl forked |
21:07.38 | luke-jr | Mirrakor: the timezone management is an absolute mess |
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21:08.13 | arezey | doesn't like kde4... too slow. |
21:08.17 | luke-jr | Mirrakor: usability issues for me come down to 2 things: impossible to use KDE 3 VCard dirs, and the VCards all storing their own copy of TZ info |
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21:08.25 | luke-jr | arezey: it's snappy if you disable compositing |
21:08.37 | luke-jr | Mirrakor: oh, and recurring todos are just non-workign at all |
21:08.39 | arezey | hmm. |
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21:10.03 | luke-jr | Mirrakor: I have been forced to take my bill payment reminders to a text file that I iterate through across the month |
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21:12.23 | sredna | kde4 rocks, although there are some obvious weaknesses still. Amongst which the need for a non-slow program starter |
21:12.51 | sredna | (krunner freezes > 2 secs here if i type 3 letters in it and hits return) |
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21:13.29 | Ace2016_- | sredna: nvidia graphics card? |
21:13.59 | sredna | Ace2016_-: no |
21:14.18 | sredna | well, yes, but that is not the reason, unless krunner has special evilness built in |
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21:14.35 | Ace2016_- | damn, i wrote out a big chunk of text to explain how to speed it up with nvidia :( |
21:14.37 | sredna | and it can work, if i create a empty user account |
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21:15.03 | sredna | Ace2016_-: krunner explicitly? then i would love to test if it helps! |
21:15.34 | Ace2016_- | no it was about nvidia, what graphics card do you have? |
21:15.38 | lordofthepigs | is there a way to get Krunner to show me hits immediately, and not wait for 3 keypresses? |
21:15.46 | Ace2016_- | yes |
21:15.58 | lordofthepigs | how? |
21:16.00 | Ace2016_- | you can do what i did when nvidia didn't have improved drivers out |
21:16.07 | Ace2016_- | what graphics card do you have! |
21:16.48 | sredna | Ace2016_-: i do have a nvidia |
21:17.03 | EvilGuru | Is there any way to get Okular to use subpixel font rendering? All parts of the application bar the PDF being displayed use it |
21:17.07 | sredna | Ace2016_-: but the kwin fanciness generally works |
21:17.59 | Ace2016_- | -.- |
21:18.23 | pinotree | EvilGuru: for the application or the document rendering? |
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21:18.34 | EvilGuru | pinotree: Document rendering |
21:18.47 | pinotree | #poppler |
21:18.53 | sredna | suspects that krunner spends 034958739083640734237042 doing something weird, although he turned a lot of stuff off |
21:19.05 | EvilGuru | Ah, so it is a poppler thing, okay |
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21:19.29 | pinotree | of course it is |
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21:20.19 | Ace2016_- | sredna: why did you say you didn't have an nvidia card? |
21:20.50 | sredna | Ace2016_-: sorry, misunderstanding |
21:21.50 | Ace2016_- | sredna: the nvidia drives have buggy 2D rendering so its slow, newer drivers are much faster, what version are you using? |
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21:25.10 | sredna | Ace2016_-: i have a gfx 8600, so i use 173.80 or stlt |
21:25.35 | sredna | Ace2016_-: the latest one recommended for my card (i hope) |
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21:31.11 | Ferrenrock | I need help with a cmake error I'm getting when I try to build a plasmoid |
21:31.27 | Ferrenrock | the plasmoid is here |
21:31.28 | Ferrenrock | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/yaWP+(Yet+Another+Weather+Plasmoid)?content=94106 |
21:31.33 | Ferrenrock | the instructions are here |
21:31.38 | Ace2016_- | sredna: thats too old, you need 180.xx |
21:31.41 | Ferrenrock | http://www.kde-look.org/help/index.php?type=70 |
21:32.19 | Ace2016_- | if you get 180.xx be sure to patch mplayer to get hardware accelerated purevideo h264 and mpeg video decoding |
21:32.20 | kmays | sredna: 177.82 preferred. |
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21:33.01 | pinotree | Ferrenrock: what is the error you get? (use a pastebin for pasting output) |
21:33.10 | _moep_ | hey can i switch at konqueror in 4.x something like in 3.x at textview? |
21:33.16 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: one sec, I accidently closed my terminal with it |
21:33.55 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: ok it's not the cmake step, it's just the 'make' step. |
21:34.06 | sredna | is confused |
21:34.12 | Ferrenrock | I'm still in plasmoid/build directory, and when I type 'make' I get 'make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.' |
21:34.44 | Simkin | http://pastebin.com/d33d90e50 |
21:34.47 | Simkin | hey guys |
21:34.50 | Simkin | anyone know what would cause this? |
21:34.53 | Simkin | I can't use kde :( |
21:35.07 | pinotree | Ferrenrock: then clean (as in rm -rf *) the content of the build directory, and then run cmake again, pasting the output in a pastebin |
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21:35.19 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: ok one sec |
21:35.25 | kmays | sredna: KDE 4.2b2 works well in 177.82 with Nvidia cards. |
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21:36.24 | sredna | kmays: also geforce 8600? |
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21:37.33 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: I just realized I ran the cmake command and all of its arguments with a hash in front of it, rendering the whole thing null. So now I try to do it and I get "CMake Error: The source directory "/home/bob/Downloads" does not appearto contain CMakeLists.txt." |
21:37.36 | kmays | Yes. |
21:37.53 | sredna | kmays: thank you, i will try that |
21:37.54 | pinotree | Ferrenrock: cd build |
21:37.59 | Ace2016_- | i also have a 8600GT |
21:38.23 | sredna | Ace2016_-: and you have better results with 180.xx? |
21:38.30 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: holy crapmonkeys on ice it worked |
21:38.33 | Ferrenrock | thanks |
21:38.45 | Ace2016_- | never bothered, i just use Xgl |
21:38.48 | pinotree | you're welcome |
21:39.04 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: so each time I tried doing it I made a stupid mistake |
21:39.06 | Ferrenrock | wow |
21:39.24 | Ferrenrock | hash, wrong directory, skipping a step |
21:39.27 | Ferrenrock | :-/ I suck |
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21:39.51 | pinotree | nah, that can happen, especially when it is something you never did |
21:40.01 | Simkin | ? |
21:40.13 | Ferrenrock | but I have done ./config make make install stuff |
21:40.16 | Ferrenrock | I have no excuse |
21:40.23 | Ferrenrock | commits suicide |
21:40.33 | Ferrenrock | j/k |
21:40.33 | pinotree | offers Ferrenrock a drink |
21:40.47 | Ferrenrock | takes pinotree's drink and asks for another |
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21:41.10 | Simkin | what does bad add command mean in regards to starting up kde!?!?! |
21:41.13 | Simkin | i can't load kde |
21:41.16 | Simkin | driving me CRAZY |
21:41.22 | Simkin | anyone haev any ideas?? |
21:41.44 | Ferrenrock | Simkin: no, I'm drunk. have you checked your xinitrc? |
21:41.51 | Simkin | someone told me it might have soeting to do with bad hostname |
21:41.56 | Simkin | btu the hostname is just 'smudge' |
21:41.58 | Simkin | should be ok? right? |
21:42.12 | Ferrenrock | Simkin: assuming all the hostnames match up in the config files yes |
21:42.27 | Simkin | if i type ping myhostname and it works. it's ok. right? |
21:43.50 | Ferrenrock | Simkin: no, I mean you need the right hostname in the kde config files |
21:43.59 | Simkin | the kde config files never ask for a host name? |
21:44.04 | Simkin | let me try something! |
21:44.05 | Ferrenrock | maybe they do |
21:44.10 | Ferrenrock | I mean that's what I'm assuming |
21:44.11 | Simkin | going back to local host and see if that helps |
21:44.14 | Ferrenrock | ok |
21:44.37 | robbmunson | we are usually drunk in here huh? |
21:44.52 | robbmunson | last 2 days SOMEONE has been drunk, its been different people, but someones always drunk :P |
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21:45.57 | Simkin | i'm not drunk :( |
21:45.58 | Simkin | i feel bad |
21:46.11 | Simkin | WAHOO |
21:46.13 | Ferrenrock | robbmunson: well it's kde, it's kind to drunk people |
21:46.14 | Simkin | kde works again |
21:46.16 | Simkin | no more sadness for me. |
21:46.25 | Ferrenrock | Simkin: do you even know what you did? ;) |
21:46.25 | robbmunson | Ferrenrock: haha, true |
21:46.41 | robbmunson | Ferrenrock: probably not |
21:46.51 | Simkin | Ferrenrock: went back to 'localhost' as hostname |
21:46.53 | robbmunson | sees "computer will self destruct in T minus 10...9..." |
21:46.55 | robbmunson | oh crap! |
21:46.59 | Ferrenrock | Simkin: ah, that works |
21:47.00 | Bearcat | hey folks. I can not log into kde4 using the login screen (rl 5) I have tracked it down to a pam probem. I have no kde file in /etc/pam.d My distro (sourcemage) does not use the system-auth file. Given that, what should go in this /etc/pam.d/kde file? |
21:47.03 | EvilGuru | Every channel has a couple of drunks, tis is what makes IRC fun |
21:47.06 | Ferrenrock | robbmunson: blowup -h now |
21:47.24 | robbmunson | Ferrenrock: :) |
21:47.40 | Ferrenrock | EvilGuru: I usually hang out on #archlinux, where the mods are pretty nice |
21:47.54 | Ferrenrock | robbmunson: it's a lot more fun than halt amirite? |
21:48.07 | Bearcat | and if you don't know what sourcemage is, just pretend it's gentoo |
21:48.09 | robbmunson | uhu |
21:48.27 | robbmunson | Ferrenrock: the archlinux guys are a hoot, i love it in there :P |
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21:49.13 | Ferrenrock | robbmunson: yeah, it's not like #gentoo where you'll get banned if you're not talking about SQL arrays or some high end crap |
21:49.27 | robbmunson | haha |
21:49.38 | robbmunson | thinks the gentoo guys are elitist :( |
21:49.45 | Ferrenrock | just a little ;) |
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21:50.01 | Ferrenrock | it's surprising, because the only difference between arch and gentoo is really binaries vs sources |
21:50.17 | robbmunson | Ferrenrock: thats what i said to him |
21:50.19 | pinotree | suggests moving the discussion to #kde-chat -- this is user support... |
21:51.01 | Simkin | what's a public time server? |
21:51.06 | Simkin | i always use nist1.datum.com |
21:51.08 | Ferrenrock | robbmunson: heh yeah |
21:51.09 | Simkin | but it is timing out |
21:51.13 | Simkin | returning EOF! |
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21:51.38 | Ferrenrock | pinotree: sorry about that, I guess we're talking more like a support group than user support eh? ;) |
21:52.46 | pinotree | Simkin: http://www.pool.ntp.org/ |
21:53.19 | Simkin | thanks pino |
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21:55.38 | robbmunson | Ferrenrock: im starting to agree with pinotree, we can move it to kde-chat if you want :) |
21:55.56 | Ferrenrock | robbmunson: I'm there |
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22:09.00 | sidh | hello everybody |
22:09.11 | Simkin | is therea gui "htop" for kde ? |
22:09.14 | sidh | does someone has already used SMILE |
22:09.19 | sidh | (for diaporama) |
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22:10.46 | MinceR | Simkin: ksysguard has a "process table" |
22:10.57 | Simkin | yah.. |
22:10.58 | Simkin | not what i want |
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22:13.10 | megahealth | hi |
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22:13.35 | megahealth | i have big problems with 4.1.3 is their an extra channel for 4.1.x related questions? |
22:13.36 | sredna | Simkin: what does htop provide that the process table does not? |
22:14.02 | pothibo | hey, I just compiled from source, and I have a dbus issue, plasma crash on launch saying it can't connect to X and Dbus, is there something new about dbus I need to add? |
22:14.06 | Simkin | sredna: cpu usage statistics |
22:14.24 | Simkin | per cpu no less |
22:14.48 | megahealth | hello? |
22:15.16 | sredna | Simkin: there are other means for that in KDE |
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22:17.08 | Simkin | sredna: how? |
22:18.07 | sredna | Simkin: ksysguard, or one of the various applets/plasmoids available |
22:18.38 | Simkin | thanks |
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22:33.23 | vital | What distro would I use that provides the most up-to-date *unstable*/Trunk KDE? :) |
22:34.00 | sredna | LFS 89 |
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22:34.11 | sredna | LFS 8) |
22:37.17 | Colonel_Panic | any of you have experience with the drum machine hydrogen? |
22:37.41 | Colonel_Panic | for some reason it won't start the audio driver |
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22:39.20 | sidh | i have backup my smile project , but i don't have any smi file |
22:39.24 | sidh | only gib |
22:39.47 | sidh | is it possible to regenerate a smi file from a .gib |
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22:41.47 | btQuark1 | hello |
22:41.57 | btQuark1 | is someone here who knows about kontact or kmail? |
22:42.14 | pinotree | well, just ask your question |
22:42.20 | White_Pelican | what do you need ot know about kmail |
22:44.01 | btQuark1 | i do have a multitude of email accounts which i get via imap |
22:44.18 | eljefe | I've created a slideshow in QDVDAuthor but i cannot get it to 'render', how do i do that so that I can export the DVD? |
22:44.19 | btQuark1 | and i could not yet find a way for kmail to use the accounts trashfolder and not the local one |
22:44.43 | btQuark1 | and it downloading&moving to local trash takes really long |
22:44.48 | White_Pelican | sorry a little beyond my experience level |
22:44.50 | btQuark1 | and mixes up messages |
22:44.58 | White_Pelican | maybe someone else can help you |
22:45.27 | tictric | btQuark1: see in the account settings |
22:47.04 | tictric | look for deleted items folder ;) |
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22:47.28 | eljefe | Colonel_Panic does hydrogen want sole copntrol of your audio subsystem, and you have something else playing/using the audio? |
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22:47.52 | White_Pelican | is there anyway to keep the addressbook in another location? |
22:47.57 | btQuark1 | tictric found it |
22:47.58 | btQuark1 | thx |
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22:48.08 | tictric | White_Pelican: yes |
22:48.16 | White_Pelican | how? |
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22:48.56 | tictric | move it from from the standard location to wherever you like it and set the resources accordingly |
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22:49.59 | White_Pelican | I guess the question is how to set the resources |
22:50.33 | btQuark1 | hopes to be finally able to get rid of thunderbird plus crap |
22:50.39 | tictric | White_Pelican: hang on, I need to start it in english language :) |
22:50.51 | White_Pelican | ok, np |
22:51.06 | White_Pelican | I'll ask myother question when we resolve this one :) |
22:51.11 | btQuark1 | what would you guys recommand as a spamfiltering solution for kmail? |
22:51.12 | White_Pelican | my other* |
22:51.22 | btQuark1 | pipe things through a local spamassasin? |
22:51.39 | Colonel_Panic | eljefe:There's no other sound-using app open that I know of |
22:52.04 | tictric | when you click on View in the Menu check Address Books to show the resources |
22:52.15 | btQuark1 | duh |
22:52.17 | Colonel_Panic | eljefe: I've tried the several available options for audio drivers |
22:52.29 | Colonel_Panic | none of them work |
22:52.40 | btQuark1 | the spamfiltering assistant can only move recognized spam to one of the local folderd |
22:52.41 | btQuark1 | s |
22:52.45 | eljefe | :( |
22:52.46 | btQuark1 | which is terribly bad |
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22:52.56 | eljefe | cannot say, I've not tried hydrogen |
22:53.02 | Colonel_Panic | eljefe, do you know brad carter? |
22:53.11 | eljefe | nope |
22:53.21 | tictric | then edit resource to find out where it currently resides |
22:53.40 | tictric | Is that a point from where you can go on? |
22:53.43 | Colonel_Panic | well, I've pastebinned the CLI output from launching hydrogen, if you think that would give any clue |
22:53.50 | tictric | on your own White_Pelican? |
22:54.00 | Colonel_Panic | http://www.pastebin.ca/1291051 |
22:54.14 | White_Pelican | ? |
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22:55.18 | tictric | White_Pelican: I wanted to know if that helped you |
22:55.27 | Colonel_Panic | goddamn, I never had these probloems before |
22:55.38 | White_Pelican | I haven't tried it yet as I'm slighly confused |
22:55.43 | Colonel_Panic | I never should have upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10 |
22:56.00 | Colonel_Panic | this has been nothing but a major hassle |
22:56.18 | tictric | why are you confused? |
22:56.30 | White_Pelican | I'm in kaddressbook right now |
22:56.42 | White_Pelican | should I be looking at configure? |
22:56.49 | tictric | fine, click on View->Adress Books |
22:57.02 | tictric | no, not configure |
22:57.18 | White_Pelican | address books is already clicked |
22:57.23 | White_Pelican | should I uncheck it? |
22:57.32 | tictric | do you see Address Books in the lower left corner? |
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22:58.18 | White_Pelican | yes and resource is checked |
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22:59.23 | tictric | click on it so that it is highlighted and click on Edit Button then |
22:59.28 | aikie | is there something for bluetooth in kde4 ? |
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23:00.24 | tictric | Location shows you where you find the address book file currently |
23:00.43 | tictric | probably ~/.kde/share/apps/kabc/std.vcf |
23:00.55 | White_Pelican | so it's all one big vcf file? |
23:01.00 | tictric | yes |
23:01.09 | White_Pelican | cool |
23:01.16 | White_Pelican | thanks for your help |
23:01.37 | tictric | uncheck resource and move it if you feel the need to do so and change the path |
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23:03.00 | tictric | good night folks, only 5 hours sleep left :( |
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23:10.49 | Ferrenrock | is there a way to run a program in sudo in the gui? like holding some key or right clicking something? using the terminal each time is a pain |
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23:12.00 | freeedrich| | Ferrenrock: well. put yourself some .desktop files which exec "kdesu /path/to/program" |
23:13.05 | Ferrenrock | freeedrich|: I was thinking more along the lines of some option on the right click menu. I just want to be able to run kwrite in sudo |
23:13.31 | Ferrenrock | so I can browse through etc and whatever in dolphin while doing this |
23:13.37 | freeedrich| | umm, I think there was some way to add options/actions to the context menus. But I have no idea how. |
23:14.02 | Ferrenrock | maybe some xml thing? |
23:14.05 | Ferrenrock | I dunno |
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23:15.30 | enumerate | where can I download kde 4 rpm for centos? thanks in advance |
23:15.45 | drantin | #centos might help with that |
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23:17.09 | Ferrenrock | freeedrich|: alright, is there a setting that has all programs run in sudo if you are in a certain directory? |
23:19.22 | freeedrich| | huh? |
23:21.00 | btQuark1 | duh |
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23:21.17 | Ferrenrock | freeedrich|: I dunno just wondering |
23:21.23 | btQuark1 | is there a plan to modify the spamfilter assistant to create spamfilter rules per account? |
23:21.32 | btQuark1 | because i need to copy&customize mine here per account |
23:21.38 | btQuark1 | which is a little anoying |
23:26.19 | stoned | hello |
23:26.27 | stoned | I took the time to configure kde4 and now its not so bad |
23:26.31 | stoned | dragonplayer is nice |
23:26.42 | stoned | I miss the panel configuraiton options |
23:26.57 | stoned | how to move panel items around? |
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23:27.02 | stoned | like in kicker |
23:27.15 | stoned | you can change which # position the item appears in the bottom panel |
23:27.32 | stoned | I want kde menu icon to be first, but desktop pager is first |
23:27.37 | stoned | how can i switch |
23:27.39 | stoned | ? |
23:28.46 | freeedrich| | stdin: click the cashew |
23:28.55 | freeedrich| | (to configure your panel) |
23:29.00 | freeedrich| | then you can easily move them around |
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23:30.56 | stoned | cachew? |
23:31.06 | reavertm | yes, it's cashew ;) |
23:31.19 | BULLE | cashew nuts, is teh yum ! |
23:31.30 | stoned | you mean the little thing that looks like the Gnome foot? |
23:31.34 | stoned | with the dots |
23:31.36 | stoned | its a mango |
23:31.39 | stoned | dummy! |
23:32.13 | stoned | thanks |
23:32.17 | BULLE | if it is a mango, why is it drawn to look like a cashew nut ? |
23:32.36 | stoned | because the guy who was drawing it at the time was eating cachews |
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23:32.40 | stoned | but he wanted to draw a mango |
23:32.42 | stoned | he got confused |
23:32.47 | BULLE | oh |
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23:33.04 | BULLE | i can relate to that, i mix up cashew nuts and mangos all the time |
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23:33.14 | stoned | yeh |
23:33.17 | stoned | it happens |
23:33.22 | tuxick | so you've had sex with cashew nuts? |
23:33.32 | BULLE | tuxick: sicko! |
23:33.59 | Firefishe | I'm working with kdesvn-build. I need a little bit of guidance on editing the .kdesvn-buildrc file. |
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23:34.18 | kassel | hi all |
23:34.29 | Firefishe | hi kassel |
23:34.57 | kassel | im begginer in qt4 develop |
23:35.06 | kassel | hi firefishe |
23:35.34 | kassel | any good url for begeners to start |
23:35.39 | kassel | thanks a lot |
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