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| 00:00.59 | veritas__ | ugh konqueror still slow as hell in 4.1.1 =X |
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| 00:03.03 | Black_Monkey | veritas__: if you look at an inactive window, could you tell me whether the titlebar and window blend fully? |
| 00:03.57 | kr0n05931 | how can I make my panel transparent? |
| 00:04.32 | Black_Monkey | kr0n05931: in 4.1? I believe you will need to find a plasma theme that has a transparent panel |
| 00:04.44 | kr0n05931 | hmm |
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| 00:05.37 | kr0n05931 | my plasma theme is supposed to look like this? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Glassified?content=81388 |
| 00:05.55 | kr0n05931 | I restarted plasma, but the panel is now just a grey-ish black |
| 00:06.05 | kr0n05931 | gradient |
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| 00:08.12 | kr0n05931 | I guess it's a SuSE bug |
| 00:08.14 | kr0n05931 | oh well |
| 00:08.15 | Jucato | transparency only works if you have compositing (desktop effects) enabled |
| 00:08.22 | kr0n05931 | ah, thank you :) |
| 00:09.16 | veritas__ | Black_Monkey: what do you mean blend fully? check imageshack: http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3958/desktop8fw8.png |
| 00:09.51 | Kenjiro | kr0n05931: is composite enabled? |
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| 00:09.56 | Black_Monkey | veritas__: ah, d/w, I meant with oxygen. sorry, should have mentioned that |
| 00:10.44 | Black_Monkey | and lol... you've changed oxygen for something that looks like it came out of the 90s? :-P |
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| 00:12.07 | veritas__ | Black_Monkey: yes. |
| 00:12.28 | veritas__ | Black_Monkey: I like uber simple themes =P |
| 00:12.40 | Black_Monkey | heh ok, each to his own :-) |
| 00:13.16 | MadChopr | gkiagia: i added it to bugs.kde.org wishlist :) thank you for the help. |
| 00:14.30 | Black_Monkey | anyone using 4.1.1 release and oxygen? anyone at all? |
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| 00:16.50 | kr0n05931 | back |
| 00:16.56 | kr0n05931 | had to make a launcher for emerald |
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| 00:23.13 | Pete-J | Hello i would just like to share my work of the new konqueror icon wich would fit the Oxygen icon pack pretty well, I think that the current icon does not show us what konqueror is |
| 00:23.17 | Pete-J | so have a look here |
| 00:23.19 | Pete-J | http://unlogical.net/konqueror/index.html |
| 00:23.30 | Pete-J | It's a much better icon =D |
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| 00:25.46 | Jucato | Pete-J: take your images somewhere else |
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| 00:28.40 | kr0n05931 | why did you kick him? he was just trying to contribute... |
| 00:29.12 | kr0n05931 | wait... |
| 00:29.17 | Jucato | kr0n05931: did you even look at the link? |
| 00:29.23 | kr0n05931 | ah, something bad? |
| 00:29.24 | Jucato | NSFW by the way |
| 00:29.31 | kr0n05931 | oh |
| 00:29.34 | Jucato | (Not Safe For Work) |
| 00:29.43 | kr0n05931 | sorry |
| 00:29.44 | Jucato | not safe for kids either |
| 00:29.53 | kr0n05931 | thank god I don't click IRC links >.< |
| 00:30.18 | Jucato | yeah. so much easier to judge me than to see why |
| 00:30.27 | kr0n05931 | hehe, sorry |
| 00:30.49 | killown | lol |
| 00:31.00 | kr0n05931 | mmm |
| 00:31.08 | Jucato | np. it happens |
| 00:31.13 | kr0n05931 | this glassified theme + my emerald theme is perfect <3 |
| 00:31.35 | kr0n05931 | I'm running on the edge of what my poor little '05 lappy can produce though lol |
| 00:32.03 | killown | horrible image on link |
| 00:33.40 | kr0n05931 | I'm glad they finally fixed the ark issues in KDE 4.1 |
| 00:33.53 | kr0n05931 | pre-4.1 I couldn't get it to work |
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| 00:39.24 | kr0n05931 | Hmm... I hope someone adapts NuoveXT to kde4... that was a great theme-independent icon set. |
| 00:43.48 | blauzahl | veritas__: on any particular page? |
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| 00:49.02 | kr0n05931 | the kde devs did an amazing job on 4.1.1 |
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| 00:52.16 | veritas__ | blauzahl on any page that requires scrolling, eg fark |
| 00:52.24 | veritas__ | i'm not sure if it's a gfx card issue |
| 00:52.40 | veritas__ | does anyone here have an ATI card and running KDE4.1 and uses konqueror a lot? |
| 00:52.57 | blauzahl | if it only happens when you scroll, then its "smooth scrolling". turn that off and see if you like things better. |
| 00:54.35 | veritas__ | blauzahl i've already disable smoothscrolling via kwriteconfig |
| 00:55.04 | Jucato | you could have done it through Konqueror too ;) |
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| 00:55.24 | blauzahl | i'm not sure if doing it through konq does it for kwrite, though, and vice versa. |
| 00:55.43 | Jucato | blauzahl: kwriteconfig has nothing to do with kwrite ;) |
| 00:56.17 | blauzahl | what does it deal with? |
| 00:56.43 | Jucato | a command to write to any KDE config file :) |
| 00:57.24 | Jucato | partnered with kreadconfig (now, there's no kread is there? :P) |
| 00:57.47 | Hydrogen | hmm |
| 00:57.50 | Hydrogen | there could be! |
| 00:57.52 | Jucato | blauzahl: kwriteconfig --help |
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| 00:58.40 | Jucato | Hydrogen: probably not in the same way as there is a kwrite app, which blauzahl presumed to be what kwriteconfig was for :) |
| 00:59.11 | blauzahl | yeah, wasn't kwrite replaced, anyway? |
| 00:59.21 | Xanthaos | Okay, I was here earlier. I am still needing help installing a good disk partitioner into kde 3.5 under redora8 |
| 00:59.25 | Xanthaos | fedora8* |
| 00:59.27 | Xanthaos | sorry |
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| 01:00.05 | Jucato | blauzahl: huh? |
| 01:00.47 | blauzahl | i might be mixed up. never mind. ignore me, please. |
| 01:00.53 | Jucato | blauzahl: you were probably thinking of kedit :) |
| 01:01.00 | blauzahl | yes |
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| 01:12.23 | Kenjiro | anyone here running konversation on kde 4.x.x? |
| 01:12.34 | Kenjiro | I mean... does it compile on kde/qt 4? |
| 01:12.42 | Xanthaos | Are there any suggestions for a partitioning tool for f8? |
| 01:12.58 | friedrich| | Kenjiro: there is no konversation4 so far. |
| 01:13.15 | friedrich| | you will only be able to compile it against qt3 (konversation 1.1) |
| 01:13.26 | Kenjiro | friedrich|: ok, thanks |
| 01:13.30 | Kenjiro | same thing for kvirc :( |
| 01:13.32 | luna1 | there is kvirc in qt4 |
| 01:13.36 | friedrich| | if you're looking for an irc program which uses qt4 - use quassel |
| 01:13.38 | luna1 | still beta |
| 01:13.43 | luna1 | i have it |
| 01:14.01 | veritas__ | hey Jucato where's the setting in konqueror? |
| 01:14.07 | Kenjiro | I didn't like quassel |
| 01:14.22 | Kenjiro | luna1: kvirc in qt4? a Beta one, I guess |
| 01:14.24 | friedrich| | I didn't try it so far |
| 01:14.29 | luna1 | yes yes beta |
| 01:14.47 | luna1 | it works anyway |
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| 01:15.29 | Jucato | veritas__: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Browsing -> near the bottom |
| 01:16.14 | friedrich| | but wasn't kvirc ugly? :) |
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| 01:17.06 | veritas__ | yeah turning off smooth scrolling didnt help one bit lol |
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| 01:17.23 | veritas__ | The CRAZIEST part is that even VIM has laggy scrolling |
| 01:17.34 | Jucato | vim? |
| 01:17.45 | veritas__ | vi/vim |
| 01:17.52 | Jucato | then it's probably a bug with the graphics card and qt4 |
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| 01:18.01 | veritas__ | hmm |
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| 01:18.18 | Xanthaos | waits patiently for help |
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| 01:18.39 | drantin | Xanthaos: f8 is a distro? |
| 01:18.47 | Jucato | drantin: Fedora 8 |
| 01:18.53 | Xanthaos | fedora8 |
| 01:18.59 | Xanthaos | red hat fedora 8 |
| 01:19.04 | luna1 | Kenjiro: here is http://img37.picoodle.com/data/img37/3/9/3/f_snapshot2m_bba3c4b.jpg |
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| 01:19.10 | drantin | odd place to ask for fedora partitioning help >_> |
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| 01:19.13 | Jucato | Xanthaos: you might want to 1. search in kde-apps.org or 2. search in your distro's packages or 3. ask in #fedora |
| 01:19.21 | Xanthaos | kernel 2.6.25.14-69.fc8 |
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| 01:19.23 | luna1 | Kenjiro: same as qt3 versione for now :D |
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| 01:20.02 | Xanthaos | Tried in #fedora no luck I'll try the site then... Hopefully I'll find something I can work with... |
| 01:20.14 | Xanthaos | Well I asked here for one reason |
| 01:20.29 | drantin | freshmeat.net is a good place to look too |
| 01:20.33 | Xanthaos | I'd really prefer that the partitioning tool have a gui interface in KDE |
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| 01:20.58 | Kenjiro | luna1: so no gain by installing it, right? |
| 01:21.27 | luna1 | uhm .. the gain is to use a qt 4 program under kde in qt4 i think :) |
| 01:21.56 | Kenjiro | just that? *grin8 |
| 01:22.00 | Kenjiro | *grin* |
| 01:22.12 | luna1 | loool |
| 01:22.24 | luna1 | Kenjiro: yep for now is the same |
| 01:22.44 | luna1 | Kenjiro: i think is in porting phase yet |
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| 01:26.31 | veritas__ | i've noticed that vim runs slow only during vsplit |
| 01:26.41 | veritas__ | by run i mean scrolls slowly/laggy |
| 01:26.48 | veritas__ | if there's no vsplit it's not nearly as bad |
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| 01:27.08 | Kenjiro | well, late for me |
| 01:27.11 | Kenjiro | see you fellows |
| 01:27.16 | rodriguez | hola |
| 01:27.52 | rodriguez | alguien de puerto rico o que hable espanol |
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| 01:31.15 | veritas__ | is anyone on KDE4.1 with nvidia drivers? |
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| 01:40.51 | drantin | I'm on trunk with nvidia drivers... |
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| 01:45.07 | seemant | so here's a question: how do I get the icons for image files to be mini-thumbnails of those images? |
| 01:45.12 | seemant | instead of the generic balloon thing |
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| 01:46.02 | seemant | in kde4, I mean, sorry |
| 01:49.25 | junkDawgie | seemant: in dolphin its not to hard.... you just set "Preview" to on |
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| 01:59.28 | seemant | junkDawgie: what about that thingy on the desktop that shows files and folders? |
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| 02:00.55 | zblach | what is the kde 4.1 irc client? |
| 02:03.34 | junkDawgie | the square plasmoid, seemant? |
| 02:03.45 | seemant | junkDawgie: yes, I think so |
| 02:03.47 | seemant | the widget |
| 02:03.56 | junkDawgie | and zblach.... that would be konversation |
| 02:04.14 | zblach | cool. i'm still running the kde3 version |
| 02:04.17 | zblach | apparently |
| 02:04.53 | junkDawgie | yes, there is no kde4 client for konversation yet.... but it works (i'm using it now) |
| 02:05.54 | zblach | there's also no kde4 version of knetworkmanager |
| 02:05.59 | junkDawgie | well.... you should also have a copy of Dolphin in System menu |
| 02:06.07 | zblach | is kbluetoothd stable? |
| 02:07.15 | junkDawgie | i thought there was a kde4networkmanager, but i might be mistaken, zblach.... and i have no experience with bluetooth devices except my phone.. :) |
| 02:07.38 | junkDawgie | btw... i'm just a user.... not a kde tech guy |
| 02:08.06 | seemant | well, you're very good |
| 02:08.15 | zblach | i'm trying to get my phone working with my machine |
| 02:08.32 | zblach | also, does kamera support the r5u870 series? |
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| 02:08.54 | junkDawgie | lol, good luck with that.... i just managed to get mine to work on usb cable couple days ago |
| 02:09.20 | zblach | ah. drat |
| 02:09.26 | zblach | i was having some success for a while |
| 02:10.08 | junkDawgie | i tried kdemobilephone tools and borked... but got Wammu to work in a limited way |
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| 02:10.58 | junkDawgie | i have no experience with kamera either, zblach i'm sorry |
| 02:11.34 | junkDawgie | you found Dolphin, seemant? |
| 02:11.54 | seemant | junkDawgie: yeah it works in dolphin |
| 02:12.01 | seemant | junkDawgie: but not in the thingymoid |
| 02:12.29 | junkDawgie | good analogy.... thingymoid works for me |
| 02:12.45 | zblach | thingymoid? the desktop widget? |
| 02:12.51 | seemant | yeah with the icons |
| 02:12.59 | junkDawgie | yes, the floating panel |
| 02:14.08 | junkDawgie | must be tied to Konqueror |
| 02:14.55 | Jucato | Folder View Plasmoid |
| 02:15.00 | junkDawgie | i'm not fond of unnecessary widgets, so that stuff was gone in about ten min |
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| 02:15.42 | Jucato | Konqueror uses an "embedded" Dolphin for the file views, so it's not tied to either |
| 02:15.47 | junkDawgie | Jucato is back... i can go back to lurking..... he is top drawer if you guys have questions |
| 02:15.59 | Jucato | nah I'm about to go offline |
| 02:16.02 | Jucato | room cleanign :) |
| 02:16.29 | junkDawgie | hire a maid.... you make the big bucks... :) |
| 02:16.41 | Jucato | um.. I *am* the "maid" at home :) |
| 02:16.49 | junkDawgie | you too? |
| 02:17.03 | Jucato | <--- homeskillet |
| 02:17.38 | junkDawgie | lol... that insinuates you can cook |
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| 02:18.00 | junkDawgie | thank god for paperplates |
| 02:18.06 | junkDawgie | chuckles |
| 02:18.16 | Jucato | heh |
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| 02:26.43 | enderst | so no way to import accounts in kmail from 3.5.9 to kmail in 4.1.1? |
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| 02:33.45 | seemant | enderst: I want to import my contact list from evolution to kmail |
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| 02:34.12 | enderst | heh |
| 02:34.25 | enderst | i just wanna go from knail to kmail ;) |
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| 03:55.26 | Rayy | finally a kde that looks like gnome http://s6.directupload.net/file/d/1542/928lwiwj_png.htm *muhahahah* |
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| 04:00.35 | zerkms | Rayy: which iconpack used for? |
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| 04:12.10 | Rayy | zerkms: dark glass |
| 04:12.22 | zerkms | Rayy: thanx |
| 04:12.35 | Rayy | zerkms: dark glass reworked ^^ |
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| 04:16.40 | zerkms | Rayy: btw, for gnome-like there isn't menu at the top :-P |
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| 04:17.13 | Rayy | zerkms: i put it the other way round^^ |
| 04:17.28 | Rayy | cause symbols at the bottom are bigger |
| 04:18.13 | zerkms | which distro |
| 04:18.13 | zerkms | ? |
| 04:18.29 | Rayy | zerkms: kubuntu 8.04, kde 4.1.1 |
| 04:18.51 | Rayy | cause im a lazy bastard :D |
| 04:18.56 | zerkms | a little troubles with semi-transparent at the tray |
| 04:19.35 | Rayy | zerkms: ye, the process list right? |
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| 04:19.52 | zerkms | don't understand you :-( |
| 04:20.00 | zerkms | plz share wallpaper? :-[ |
| 04:20.11 | Rayy | zerkms: www.interfacelift.com |
| 04:20.16 | zerkms | kk |
| 04:20.18 | Rayy | absolutely gr8 wallpaper site |
| 04:23.01 | Rayy | zerkms: http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper_beta/details/1188/elevation.html |
| 04:23.11 | zerkms | http://interfacelift.com/wallpaper/downloads/01223_alittlemotivation_1280x1024.jpg |
| 04:23.11 | zerkms | i like this one |
| 04:23.11 | zerkms | sets ^^ as wallpaper |
| 04:23.49 | zerkms | thanks |
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| 04:24.03 | Rayy | zerkms: ^^ |
| 04:24.19 | Rayy | your welcome |
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| 04:40.20 | mdeanda | silly question.. i'm building a kde3 app with kdevelop, how do i make a release? last time i tried, you had to run make -f Makefile.cvs |
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| 04:56.06 | sjraarke | Hi all. |
| 04:56.16 | bubshait | is there a way to get dual screen in kde 4.1? |
| 04:56.37 | sjraarke | Since the last update ~1 hour ago all desktop effects are gone/disabled? |
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| 04:56.56 | sjraarke | bubshait: yes, xinerama |
| 04:57.54 | bubshait | can i do it as 2 screens? |
| 04:58.15 | sjraarke | bubshait: How do you mean? |
| 04:58.25 | bubshait | two xorg devices |
| 04:58.58 | bubshait | as in two seperate monitors, not xinerama |
| 04:59.02 | sjraarke | bubshait: Explain please what you exactly expect from it |
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| 04:59.49 | bubshait | you know how you set up two monitors, where you have applications and panels on each one, but you cannot drag windows between them |
| 04:59.58 | gizmobay | Anyone know where I can find the 4.1.1 widget called Notes? |
| 05:00.02 | bubshait | they are seperate xservers |
| 05:00.27 | sjraarke | bubshait: I can drag between my 2 monitors, or is that what you want to prevent? |
| 05:00.48 | Jucato | gizmobay, try looking for a package in your distro for kdeplasma-addons |
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| 05:02.35 | bubshait | sjraarke, that is the xinerama approach, I am thinking of setting up two seperate virtual display, as in a different wallpaper on each display, a different screen saver on each display. That kinda thing. |
| 05:03.05 | gizmobay | jucato, thanks |
| 05:03.16 | sjraarke | bubshait: Hmm, don't think that is possible, but have to say that I never tried it |
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| 05:16.49 | abbe | hi all |
| 05:16.53 | mdeanda | hi\ |
| 05:17.08 | abbe | anyone running on Gentoo GNU/Linux ? |
| 05:17.28 | Jucato | #gentoo or #gentoo-kde people are surely running them :) |
| 05:17.53 | abbe | okay, thanks Jucato. |
| 05:18.06 | abbe | BtW, any good mirrors of KDE |
| 05:18.09 | mdeanda | anybody here know how to make a release of a kde app? for kde3 |
| 05:18.22 | abbe | is downloading kde from ftp.kde.org at 4.5 KB/s |
| 05:19.29 | Jucato | abbe, if you are using gentoo's ebuilds, I think they have options for you to use a different mirror |
| 05:19.50 | abbe | Hmm..., any ideas how ? |
| 05:19.59 | Jucato | ask in #gentoo-kde ? |
| 05:20.01 | abbe | that is the only issue I've with KDE atm . |
| 05:20.03 | Jucato | abbe, http://www.kde.org/mirrors/ too |
| 05:20.09 | abbe | okay, Jucato :) |
| 05:23.06 | mdeanda | silly question.. but how stable is kde4? i'm on slackware and pat generally doesn't release latest kde... i've never seen kde4 but i know that early releases shouldn't be expected to be stable at all |
| 05:23.51 | abbe | mdeanda: kde 4.1 is stable enough for daily use :) |
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| 05:23.56 | gizmobay | In the add widgets, what does the yellow star mean? |
| 05:23.58 | abbe | used it for 3 weeks after switching to xmona d:) |
| 05:24.08 | abbe | s/a d/ad/ |
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| 05:24.33 | Jucato | mdeanda, it's stable. but usually people actually mean "feature complete" when they say "stable"... so can be two different things |
| 05:24.44 | Jucato | mdeanda, but KDE has no direct control over distributors' minds.. |
| 05:25.22 | Jucato | current release is 4.1.1, stable. but still not "feature complete" in some areas, like the desktop |
| 05:25.43 | mdeanda | Jucato: yeah i just meant that b/c slackware doesn't ship with kde4, i can't had a chance to use it |
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| 05:27.22 | sjraarke | Jucato: To your knowledge is there anything gone wrong with the desktop effects in the update to 4.1.1? None work on my system anymore |
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| 05:29.24 | Jucato | sjraarke, sorry, no. I haven't upgrade yet myself |
| 05:30.09 | sjraarke | Okay, no problem, thanks |
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| 05:40.09 | Steven_M | hi all |
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| 05:40.45 | Steven_M | In Quuanta+ is there an editing view that shows how it will look as your editing? Ie the center button centres the insertion point rather than showing the center tags? |
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| 05:42.21 | mdeanda | .hi |
| 05:42.38 | Steven_M | does anyone here use quanta+ |
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| 05:42.54 | Steven_M | mdeanda: hi |
| 05:43.33 | iomari | I finally got compiz working on my kde4 (using kwin4 as my session manager) after having issues with my radeon 9100 notebook card but now I have 2 issues. why can't I get it to work with kde3 and why doesn't yakuake work properly with kde4? |
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| 05:45.46 | VanessaE | mornin' |
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| 05:46.27 | mdeanda | i do not use quanta, sorry |
| 05:46.29 | Steven_M | VanessaE: hi |
| 05:47.00 | drantin | moanin |
| 05:47.05 | VanessaE | my husband's box is having a weird issue - it seems that any time he runs a kde4 app while kde3 is running, the app in question starts a process or two that locks out his sound device. Takes us several tries killing processes before it is fixed. What causes this, and can it be stopped? |
| 05:47.07 | mdeanda | i've launched quanta, it wasn't for me... i'm more of a standard text editor type of person |
| 05:47.12 | Steven_M | In Quuanta+ is there an editing view that shows how it will look as your editing? Ie the center button centres the insertion point rather than showing the center tags? |
| 05:47.15 | Rayy | is there any good IDE ported to kde 4 yet? |
| 05:47.54 | VanessaE | i.e. he can't start music playing on (an already running copy of) amarok for kde3 if he's recently run a kde4 game - even if the game isn't running anymore. |
| 05:49.08 | mdeanda | steve, i'm using the one that ships with kde3... |
| 05:49.24 | mdeanda | there is a "vpl & source editors" that kinda does taht |
| 05:49.49 | mdeanda | but it doesn't seem to update 'til you focus that panel |
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| 05:50.26 | Steven_M | mdeanda: what's that one called? |
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| 05:50.47 | mdeanda | try hitting f9 |
| 05:51.00 | mdeanda | but its not exactly a real preview.. |
| 05:51.59 | mdeanda | sry VanessaE i haven't run anything kde4 yet :( |
| 05:52.56 | VanessaE | eh, that's ok |
| 05:53.03 | Steven_M | mdeanda: I want a proper view as I'm editing |
| 05:53.04 | VanessaE | he seems to like the look of kde4 apps |
| 05:53.15 | VanessaE | he's just not pleased with the desktop at the moment. |
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| 05:54.59 | Steven_M | mdeanda: what's the name of the web devel yo use? |
| 05:55.01 | mdeanda | VanessaE: so did you get your husband to use kde or the other way around? i'm trying to get my wife to use kde... a big dealbreaker is that many websites don't work with konq/firefox or the silly flash plugin always on top of all web content that happens with linux version of flash |
| 05:55.12 | mdeanda | Steven_M: hehe.. kate. |
| 05:55.23 | mdeanda | Steven_M: and "F5" on the browser |
| 05:55.43 | Steven_M | mdeanda: hehe |
| 05:56.07 | Steven_M | goes to study now |
| 05:56.10 | mdeanda | Steven_M: it would be awesome if i can linke a browser to kate so that "ctrl+s" triggers "f5" on the browser |
| 05:56.13 | abbe | time it takes to render the page in konqueror rocks :) |
| 05:56.18 | VanessaE | mdeanda, I got him into Linux, though he had tried it once a few years before we met. |
| 05:56.37 | VanessaE | and by extension, got him to use KDE (3.5.10 by default, at the moment) |
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| 05:57.40 | Steven_M | mdeanda: indeed |
| 05:58.00 | Steven_M | bye all |
| 05:59.12 | mdeanda | anybody here know how to make a release from kdevelop? i'm trying to make a new release of a kde3 app i'm working on. last one i did kinda sucked |
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| 06:02.16 | Jucato | mdeanda, you can probably try asking in #kdevelop or #kde-devel |
| 06:03.22 | iomari | anyone know why yakuake does not work properly in kde4? No hotkey, and doesn't remember settings. I tried both the kde3 and kde4 versions of yakuake. |
| 06:03.51 | Jucato | iomari, what version of yakauke (for KDE 4) did you try? |
| 06:04.17 | mdeanda | Jucato: they don't speak either :( |
| 06:04.19 | iomari | 1 sec... |
| 06:04.47 | Jucato | mdeanda, you will kinda have to wait for an answer in IRC support channels |
| 06:05.09 | mdeanda | yeah i know.. hehe |
| 06:05.23 | Jucato | haven't seen you ask in #kde-devel though :) |
| 06:05.29 | mdeanda | Jucato: i try to provide some support when i can |
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| 06:05.40 | mdeanda | Jucato: yeah i didn't do that one ;) you caught me.. hehe |
| 06:05.55 | iomari | Jucato: version 2.9.3 |
| 06:06.15 | Jucato | iomari, not sure about the settings, but the hotkey (to activate/pull down) yakuake has been fixed since 2.9.2 iirc |
| 06:06.29 | Jucato | it's working well on my KDE 4.1 install as well |
| 06:06.53 | Jucato | iomari, have you changed it from the default F12? |
| 06:06.53 | VanessaE | pokes Jucato |
| 06:06.55 | VanessaE | hi. :) |
| 06:07.00 | Jucato | hi VanessaE |
| 06:07.28 | Jucato | gets back to his chores |
| 06:07.30 | iomari | when yakuake first comes on screen it used to tell you to use F12, now theres is a blank where that should be. Also in yakuake itself I can't find were to set it. And where is the transparent theme? |
| 06:07.49 | iomari | I did not change it. |
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| 06:08.04 | Jucato | iomari, the shortcut should be in the normal Configure Shortcuts dialog. |
| 06:08.12 | Jucato | there's a fourth column for global shortcuts |
| 06:08.37 | Jucato | so it goes like: Shortcut Name | Primary Shortcut | Secondary Shortcut | Global Shortcut |
| 06:09.04 | Jucato | as for transparency theme, right-click -> Edit Profile |
| 06:09.12 | Jucato | it uses Konsole's way of changing appearances |
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| 06:09.29 | Jucato | and compositing (desktop effects) must be enabled for that to work |
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| 06:12.00 | VanessaE | Jucato, you seem to be the channel's resident kde4 expert... :) |
| 06:12.24 | Jucato | lol hell no :) |
| 06:12.24 | enyawix_ | kde4 rocks i just tried it on live cd |
| 06:12.35 | mdeanda | enyawix_: what live cd? i wanna try |
| 06:12.35 | Jucato | I just happen to be online *a lot* :D |
| 06:12.40 | goskab | I was wondering if anyone knew how to set the colors of older kde apps in kde 4. I just upgraded to kde 4.1 and all my new apps look great, I was able to fix gtk apps so they look ok, but things like amarok didn't conform to the color scheme. I'm using current ubuntu. |
| 06:12.42 | VanessaE | heh |
| 06:13.05 | mdeanda | Jucato is always on #kde... everytime i've been here he's here.. and actually chatting.. not just here and away from computer |
| 06:13.36 | enyawix_ | mdeanda i tried this one http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/ |
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| 06:13.45 | mdeanda | i'd be on #kde more if i can log into irc from work |
| 06:13.47 | Jucato | goskab, you'll have to use "kcontrol" (KDE 3's kcontrol) to set KDE 3 themes |
| 06:13.52 | enyawix_ | i do not like suse but very nice |
| 06:14.21 | Jucato | I'd be on #kde less if I had work... :/ |
| 06:14.22 | VanessaE | my husband uses a few kde4 apps from within kde3 (mostly a couple of games). |
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| 06:14.27 | Jucato | gets back to cleaning |
| 06:14.39 | Jucato | heh yeah kde 4 games are nice :) |
| 06:14.42 | mdeanda | enyawix_: yeah last time i tried suse they had that winxp knock-off menu... i don't like that.. hopefully kde4 doesn't switch to that |
| 06:14.44 | goskab | Jucato, ok, thanks |
| 06:15.01 | enyawix | when will kde 4 be ready? |
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| 06:15.17 | Jucato | enyawix, ready for what/who? |
| 06:15.32 | mdeanda | VanessaE: what are those games? i'm curious... you mean.. its not kolf and ksokoban? |
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| 06:15.50 | mdeanda | Jucato: i think he means feature complete? aka stable? hehe |
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| 06:15.58 | Jucato | kollision! (or was it kollide?) |
| 06:16.21 | VanessaE | no, actually it's mahjongg and kbounce, and kshishen |
| 06:16.30 | Jucato | oh kbounce! that too! |
| 06:16.39 | VanessaE | addictive game, that |
| 06:16.49 | Jucato | +1 |
| 06:16.51 | iomari | why can't I get composite working in kde3 when it's working in kde4(suse11)? |
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| 06:17.11 | VanessaE | worse is this little thing he ran across a week or so ago, kboggle. everyone's played games like that, but still... |
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| 06:17.43 | Jucato | iomari, um.. that depends on the window manager you are using. in KDE 3, kwin's addon compositing manager wasn't all that great |
| 06:17.58 | Jucato | so in KDE 3, you'd have to use something like *cough* compiz |
| 06:18.56 | VanessaE | compiz looks nice and all, but that's one of those new things I just couldn't get my head around |
| 06:19.04 | VanessaE | particularly, the whole rotating cube desktop |
| 06:19.13 | mdeanda | VanessaE: i was thinking just now.. for your sound problem.. does it work again if you retstart artsd? i've sometimes had a strange problem on my amd/ati laptop after suspend and artds... if that's the case then restarting artsd might fix it.. but you'll have to do that each time it messes up. |
| 06:19.21 | VanessaE | mdeanda, nope. |
| 06:19.29 | iomari | I tried both kwin4 and compiz. neither worked. |
| 06:19.37 | enyawix | Jucato when will kde 4 be ready for day to day use? |
| 06:19.49 | VanessaE | We have to start killing off processes, like extra copies of seahorse (what is this anyway?) and *timidity* (who started that thing??) |
| 06:20.01 | VanessaE | ktorrent even blocks it now and again |
| 06:20.02 | mdeanda | lol... |
| 06:20.26 | Jucato | enyawix, for who? I use it everyday since March |
| 06:20.27 | enyawix | Jucato some of the apps the come with kde 3 are missing in 4 |
| 06:20.39 | Jucato | like? |
| 06:20.48 | enyawix | brb looking |
| 06:20.53 | spectral | if you didn't know you can run kde3 apps in kde4 :P |
| 06:20.55 | Jucato | make sure you don't answer k3b, ktorrent, amarok, koffice, etc |
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| 06:21.04 | Jucato | because those don't "come with KDE" |
| 06:21.25 | sjraarke | Jucato : knode :) |
| 06:21.34 | Jucato | sjraarke, is in kdepim since KDE 4.1 |
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| 06:21.38 | mdeanda | VanessaE: Seahorse is a Gnome front end for GnuPG, the GNU Privacy Guard program. |
| 06:21.43 | Jucato | (kdepim was entirely missing in 4.0) |
| 06:21.46 | mdeanda | VanessaE: http://www.linux.org/apps/AppId_3552.html |
| 06:22.01 | enyawix | Jucato true will k3b, ktorrent, amarok, koffice, etc build with the kde 4.x libs? |
| 06:22.02 | VanessaE | odd..I wonder what called that thing up |
| 06:22.25 | Jucato | enyawix, the KDE 3 versions of those? no. KDE 4 versions of those are already on the way |
| 06:22.46 | Jucato | enyawix, and like what spectral said, you can use KDE 3 apps in KDE 4 |
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| 06:23.25 | Jucato | but those apps you mentioned are not distributed as core KDE apps. they have their own release schedules |
| 06:23.37 | sjraarke | Jucato: you're right. My system just didn't install it. Thanks for pointing it out |
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| 06:24.04 | Jucato | ok I think I really *really* need to detach self from IRC :) |
| 06:24.11 | goskab | Jucato, kcontrol did the trick, thanks. |
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| 06:24.15 | Jucato | otherwise my room will remain.. um.. empty :) |
| 06:24.21 | mdeanda | i'm so excited, just 1:50hrs to run a live kde4 disc... |
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| 06:25.41 | mdeanda | Jucato: do you know if konq is gonna change anything after the announcement of "google chrome"? |
| 06:26.13 | Jucato | mdeanda, dunno, sorry |
| 06:26.18 | mdeanda | Jucato: in particular, i'm refering to how if 1 tab goes down in konq, you have to kill the whole window |
| 06:26.39 | Jucato | yeah that's kinda annoying ain't it? :) |
| 06:26.55 | Jucato | but that's true of all other browsers except Chrome and IE8 (I was told) |
| 06:27.11 | mdeanda | yeah.. that's why i hate the internet |
| 06:27.13 | mdeanda | lol |
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| 06:51.43 | birnisson | hi, how do I start kdm from a terminal? |
| 06:51.53 | birnisson | so instead of doing startx |
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| 06:55.43 | birnisson | ok |
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| 07:08.02 | Barafu | Please, give me advise on konqueror. I have downloaded a file, and I know it to be PDF. but konqueror shows it to be Plaint Text and wants to open it in Kate. I run into this thing often - and it annoys. How to fix a file? |
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| 07:10.46 | iomari_ | sorry if I'm repeating. I had to restart my irc client and I can't see the previous replies. |
| 07:10.47 | iomari_ | I have composite working in kde4 but it doesn't work in kde3. What am I doing wrong. I really don't want to use kde4 for obvious reasons. I tried session managers kwin4 and compiz. neither work. But in kde4 they do work. |
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| 07:39.20 | sbattey | Anybody experiencing this particular bug with KDE 4.1.1? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170363 |
| 07:41.28 | thiago | never noticed anything like that |
| 07:42.12 | spectral | i have it here too |
| 07:42.38 | sbattey | spectral: OS? |
| 07:42.56 | spectral | it's possible it only shows up in oxygen, because i used to have widget theme set to plastique |
| 07:43.00 | spectral | opensuse 11 |
| 07:43.10 | spectral | with nvidia drivers |
| 07:43.33 | sbattey | Let me try plastique |
| 07:44.24 | spectral | i didn't notice it until lately.. so thats why i suspect oxygen |
| 07:45.21 | sbattey | thiago: it's only in oxygen |
| 07:45.29 | thiago | using oxygen |
| 07:45.31 | sbattey | Maybe i should have filed the report against oxygen instead of kwin |
| 07:45.40 | sbattey | thiago: 4.1.1 with effects enabled? |
| 07:46.03 | thiago | 4.1.60 with effects disabled |
| 07:46.23 | sbattey | thiago: effects must be enabled and i think it only occurs in 4.1.1 as per the bug report. |
| 07:47.19 | sbattey | Hmm gwenview crashes when you change the widget style lol |
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| 07:49.21 | spectral | it's also quite possible that it's related to nvidia.. i just installed 177.70 beta driver and in some themes i have some really odd artefacts |
| 07:50.15 | sbattey | spectral: I'm on ATI with the binary drivers |
| 07:50.42 | spectral | ok, so that rules it out then :) good to know |
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| 07:54.23 | CyBaH | gm all |
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| 08:01.02 | RichiH | can someone try to confirm odd behaviour, fo rme? create a konqueror view with 22 tabs that all open different pages. save teh view, exit kde4, log in, load profile |
| 08:01.08 | RichiH | i get empty tabs, nothing else |
| 08:01.30 | RichiH | 4.1.0, not 4.1.1, mind |
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| 08:02.45 | Prometheus7777 | hello, anyone knows how long kde 3 will be supported? |
| 08:03.00 | thiago | define "supported" |
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| 08:04.42 | Prometheus7777 | how long kde developers will be fixig bugs and creating new maintenance releases |
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| 08:05.40 | thiago | sometime between 1 month and 1 year |
| 08:05.42 | pinotree | some (most?= don't look at kde3 anymore |
| 08:05.51 | thiago | most people don't do that anymore already |
| 08:05.53 | thiago | some still do |
| 08:06.06 | thiago | there's no schedule for a 3.5.11 release. It may never happen. |
| 08:07.04 | supertones | i am running into kde4 io problems where things like apt and cp and mv cause all kde appltications to grey out |
| 08:07.41 | annma | supertones: explain better what you are doing and what's happening |
| 08:07.52 | Prometheus7777 | so kde 4 is only solution, thanx for the info |
| 08:08.01 | supertones | i think my hdd might be going bad but i'm not sure |
| 08:08.07 | Jucato | Prometheus7777: you can keep on using KDE 3 as long as you like |
| 08:08.20 | supertones | any time i use the disk kjournald or whatever it is called takes up most of the processes list |
| 08:08.42 | Jucato | some distros (enterprise ones) will continue to support KDE 3 for some time |
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| 08:08.44 | annma | supertones: is that recent? did you upgrade your distro? |
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| 08:09.04 | supertones | umm i constantly upgrade but i would say 2 weeks |
| 08:09.08 | supertones | i upgraded today to 4.1.1 |
| 08:09.09 | annma | most enterprises will use kde3 for some years still |
| 08:09.15 | Prometheus7777 | yeah, like Kubuntu 8.04, for next 3 years |
| 08:09.21 | annma | supertones: and it happened at the same time? |
| 08:09.39 | Jucato | Prometheus7777: 18 months only |
| 08:09.54 | supertones | i'm not sure i would say it happened sometime after 4.1 was released on kubuntu |
| 08:10.14 | supertones | i do not even know how to check it properly |
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| 08:10.47 | spectral | download some drive fitness test from the hdd maker |
| 08:10.47 | supertones | and i do not want to reinstall until 8.10 comes out in november |
| 08:11.11 | spectral | check with smartmontools etc |
| 08:11.19 | supertones | can that run on top of the os? |
| 08:11.41 | spectral | no it's usually (always?) a disk/cd boot image |
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| 08:12.12 | mereandor | how can I keep the kde4-panel from starting when I log into kde3? |
| 08:12.31 | Prometheus7777 | supertones: in 8.10 kde 4.1 will be default kde so i think it will be much more stable as a distro |
| 08:12.51 | supertones | ya i will upgrade then |
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| 08:12.57 | supertones | i mean reinstall |
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| 08:13.29 | mereandor | (I now get 2 panels when I log into kde3) |
| 08:13.32 | supertones | i have a year old system and it seems like hdd read write is killing it |
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| 08:14.37 | sorush20 | hi where is the kde menu confi file. in pclinuxos file my menu is messed up |
| 08:14.40 | sbattey | supertones does deleting files from the gui cause issues? |
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| 08:14.59 | mereandor | that's on gentoo with kde 4.1.1/3.5.9 |
| 08:15.20 | annma | mereandor: you messed env vars |
| 08:15.23 | friedrich| | mereandor: how do you start your kde sessino? |
| 08:15.25 | supertones | i just deleted 2 big ones and no it seems like it just deleted the links to them no problem |
| 08:15.38 | annma | mereandor: did you ask in your distro channel? |
| 08:15.40 | mereandor | I start via kdm-3.5 |
| 08:15.48 | supertones | sbattey: in dolphin |
| 08:16.11 | friedrich| | mereandor: set a new one in /etc/conf.d/xdm |
| 08:16.11 | RichiH | Prometheus7777: even 3.5.9 was never planned.. but as several distributions that use the 3.5 branch have long support times, i suspect that security issues will be fixed for a long-ish time to come |
| 08:16.21 | mereandor | hm, it is not officially supported in gentoo yet - and in they're all sleeping in the distro channel |
| 08:16.31 | RichiH | that being said, i would not base anything you want to run for a longer time on 3.5, any more |
| 08:16.42 | mereandor | friedrich|: an new one? |
| 08:17.17 | friedrich| | mereandor: that one, which came with kde-4.1.1 |
| 08:17.38 | mereandor | friedrich|: alright, thanks ;) |
| 08:17.45 | supertones | this might just be my computer so I just have one last question... What is kjournald? |
| 08:19.32 | lemma | supertones: |
| 08:19.32 | lemma | t's a Linux kernel internal thread which handles various things related to |
| 08:19.32 | lemma | journaling filesystems. It has nothing to do with KDE. |
| 08:19.44 | spectral | supertones: ext3 journal daemon.. commits changes to the disk in regular intervals etc |
| 08:19.56 | supertones | oh ok Thanks lemma and spectral |
| 08:20.08 | lemma | supertones: don't thank me, thank the guy I googled :D |
| 08:20.13 | supertones | heh |
| 08:20.37 | supertones | you made quick sense of the google so i thank you |
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| 08:21.22 | supertones | i'm so close to switching to arch just for the performance |
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| 08:25.11 | verblendet | hi, good morning, it me again, with the same problem :) on every startup of kde, kmail starts up, i checked almost everything to disable kmail at seassion startup, but that wont help, it always starts. where are autostart applikations saved? what files must i look at and edit to disable kmail? is there a log output so i can see what kde does? i have no apps in my autostart, i have closed kmail and ended and saved session, but it still fires |
| 08:25.11 | verblendet | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.31 | verblendet | kde 3.5 on debian etch, updated |
| 08:26.23 | lemma | verblendet: is kmail running when you quit kde, logout or shutdown your computer? |
| 08:26.36 | verblendet | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:26.56 | verblendet | no, i closed the program! |
| 08:26.59 | lemma | verblendet: I've witnessed things like that myself but never really looked into them. |
| 08:27.16 | verblendet | and no link in autostart |
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| 08:27.30 | spectral | i have the same problem with krusader.. it always starts up |
| 08:27.40 | spectral | nothing in ~/.kde4/Autostart etc |
| 08:27.44 | verblendet | oh |
| 08:27.52 | verblendet | so im not alone, good to know :) |
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| 08:29.41 | verblendet | ok, i will do some grepping the whole harddisk for kmail, if this does not help i will rename the binary and see what kde tells me |
| 08:29.55 | ukwiz | I have lost the panel bar along the bottom to the screen. How do I get it back? |
| 08:29.56 | annma | verblendet: did you look in $KDEDIR/share/autostart? |
| 08:30.09 | annma | $KDEDIR being where your KDE is installed |
| 08:30.18 | annma | ukwiz: KDE version? |
| 08:30.36 | verblendet | find /usr -name Autostart returns nothing |
| 08:30.58 | annma | look in /usr/share/autostart |
| 08:31.13 | annma | and also ask in debian channel |
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| 08:31.27 | annma | doesn't debian start stuff in /etc somewhere? |
| 08:31.58 | verblendet | i found ./.kde/share/applnk/Internet/KMail.desktop:Exec=kmail and ./.kde/share/apps/kmail/lock:appName=kmail |
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| 08:36.27 | spectral | ukwiz: right click on desktop and add the widget again? |
| 08:36.48 | verblendet | i asked in debian channel, and there is no default setting for kde to start up kmail every time |
| 08:38.04 | spectral | i can't find anything in /usr/share/autostart related to krusader either.. so no idea why it autostarts it |
| 08:38.09 | lemma | verblendet: does your kopete autostart? |
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| 08:38.19 | verblendet | what is kopete? |
| 08:38.26 | verblendet | i dont know it :) so i guess i dont use it |
| 08:38.29 | lemma | verblendet: the kde instant messenger |
| 08:38.46 | verblendet | oh, no i dont use im |
| 08:38.47 | ukwiz | spectral: I am on 10.3 - no widgets |
| 08:39.25 | cuci | morning! |
| 08:39.30 | spectral | erhm sorry add panel |
| 08:40.03 | cuci | any ideas on how to bring up kmail...it seems to be running but I can't see it neither when I alt+tab through windows or on task manager |
| 08:40.03 | annma | ukwiz: what KDE version I asked you |
| 08:40.05 | verblendet | ill do a grep -R kmail / now, lets see what happens |
| 08:40.25 | verblendet | cuci, want my kmail? :)) |
| 08:40.28 | spectral | lol search every file for kmail.. that will be fast |
| 08:40.54 | verblendet | ok, i could do a find, filter for mimetypes and opnly scan ascii files :) |
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| 08:45.08 | ukwiz | amma: 10.3 |
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| 08:46.48 | ukwiz | annma: Sorry, missed your comment - 10.3 |
| 08:47.08 | spectral | thats the version of suse you are using, not the version of kde |
| 08:47.42 | annma | 10.3 is your distro version |
| 08:47.56 | annma | ukwiz: in any KDE app look at the Help menu -> About KDE |
| 08:48.10 | verblendet | hmmm, determing mimetype is very slow, much slower than doing a simple grep :)) |
| 08:48.14 | ukwiz | spectral: sorry, you are right. I am so used to having to give that on the suse forum! kde 3.5.7 |
| 08:48.25 | ukwiz | annma: 3.5.7 |
| 08:48.34 | annma | restart the panel by typing: kicker & in konsole |
| 08:48.59 | verblendet | hmmm, but thatfor i overclocked my cpu by 20% this morning, hehe |
| 08:49.30 | ukwiz | annma: that hasn't helped |
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| 08:50.08 | annma | dcop kicker kicker restart <- in konsole |
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| 08:51.19 | ukwiz | annma: it started up, showed the task bar, system tray, etc, then vanished |
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| 08:51.37 | annma | vanished how? |
| 08:52.34 | ukwiz | I have autohide on, so presumably it autohid itself |
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| 08:59.38 | ukwiz | annma: I have autohide on, so presumably it autohid itself |
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| 09:13.56 | iomari_ | can't get compiz to work in kde3 but it works in kde4. Any suggestions? |
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| 09:14.49 | hyper_ch | use kde4 then |
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| 09:14.53 | Zarin | iomari_, do you want it to not work in KDE4 or work in KDE3? ;-) |
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| 09:15.26 | Zarin | iomari_, #compiz would be more suited |
| 09:15.57 | iomari_ | #compiz has ot been able to resolve it. |
| 09:16.07 | iomari_ | s/ot/not |
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| 09:16.27 | Zarin | What happens when you try to start it in a Konsole? |
| 09:16.28 | hyper_ch | you mean the people in #compiz |
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| 09:17.08 | verblendet | lol, i think i solved my kde problem with kmail, .... my wm just died, i resetted X and see what happens.... kmail didnt startup this time, so lets see what happens on next login :)) |
| 09:17.45 | verblendet | but this is nice and works perfectly: find / -xdev -type f ! -name "*~"|xargs file -i |awk -F ":" '{x=$1};{print x}'|xargs grep kmail |
| 09:19.25 | iomari_ | Zarin with what command? |
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| 09:19.58 | Zarin | iomari_, no idea. Maybe "compiz --replace" or "compiz-manager --replace" or something |
| 09:20.17 | iomari_ | that freezes my X session. |
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| 09:20.52 | Zarin | Not a KDE problem then |
| 09:20.58 | iomari_ | right now, compiz is my manager and the effects are enabled but it's as if I'm still using kwin. |
| 09:21.21 | Zarin | iomari_, Compiz uses a KWin-like window decorations |
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| 09:22.08 | iomari_ | I know. I see how it works in kde4. |
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| 09:35.19 | chakie_work | ooh, shiny! 4.1 passes mouse wheel events to a "less" konsole |
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| 09:38.53 | gkiagia | chakie_work: it passes them to any ncurses program. wheel up is key up and wheel down is key down ;) |
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| 09:39.46 | chakie_work | gkiagia: it's something that i've long wanted |
| 09:40.05 | gkiagia | it's a very nice feature indeed |
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| 09:41.40 | quassel251 | hello |
| 09:41.49 | quassel251 | where can i get help with bluetooth? |
| 09:42.27 | gkiagia | is it kbluetooth related or not? |
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| 09:43.59 | quassel251 | yep |
| 09:44.31 | gkiagia | quassel251: then ask here |
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| 09:44.41 | quassel251 | i need help using my bluetooth headset on kde |
| 09:45.03 | quassel251 | something complicated with pcm i read it a while back but lost my bookmarks :/ |
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| 09:49.19 | quassel251 | lol |
| 09:49.29 | quassel251 | bluetooth is too advanced for kde huh |
| 09:49.44 | bonsaikitten | more like most kde devs don't use it I'd guess |
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| 09:50.02 | quassel251 | lol |
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| 09:50.08 | quassel251 | yeah i know why |
| 09:50.16 | bonsaikitten | I don't have any bluetooth hardware - I'd guess many others are in the same position |
| 09:50.22 | quassel251 | too advanced for kde devs |
| 09:50.32 | bonsaikitten | stop trolling |
| 09:50.38 | quassel251 | thats a reason why i can never part with windows helass |
| 09:50.47 | quassel251 | it works perfectly there |
| 09:50.52 | Jucato | then don't |
| 09:50.54 | quassel251 | no i am just frolicking |
| 09:50.59 | Jucato | stay with whatever works for you |
| 09:51.11 | quassel251 | there is a disctinct difference frolicking != trolling |
| 09:51.19 | quassel251 | i am a frolic not a troll |
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| 09:51.36 | bonsaikitten | seriously, bluetooth and all that fancy modern stuff has very limited use ... and people don't rush out to bleed money on cheap plastic crap ;) |
| 09:51.38 | quassel251 | you dont decide what i am or what i do i do that |
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| 09:51.55 | quassel251 | uhm i had to buy new headsets every month |
| 09:52.03 | quassel251 | with wired ones |
| 09:52.08 | quassel251 | so where can i get help |
| 09:52.15 | quassel251 | isnt there a special channel for this? |
| 09:52.37 | Jucato | not if you go insulting people everywhere you don't get an answer |
| 09:52.42 | quassel251 | i cant do a list search wont work on quassel |
| 09:52.49 | quassel251 | insulting? |
| 09:52.58 | quassel251 | no i wasnt |
| 09:53.09 | Jucato | <quassel251> too advanced for kde devs |
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| 09:53.17 | quassel251 | i was reading fora its really hard to configure bluetooth |
| 09:53.31 | quassel251 | pinotree: from Leiden my pal :) |
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| 09:53.52 | quassel251 | JUcato its hard for everyone |
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| 09:53.55 | Jucato | so you go presume that <quassel251> bluetooth is too advanced for kde huh <quassel251> yeah i know why <quassel251> too advanced for kde devs |
| 09:54.04 | quassel251 | those werent insults |
| 09:54.13 | quassel251 | its hard for everyone |
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| 09:54.24 | quassel251 | do a google query and see for yourself |
| 09:54.48 | Jucato | I don't presume something unless I hear it from the developers themselves |
| 09:54.54 | quassel251 | and i paid a lot of cash for this headset |
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| 09:55.21 | quassel251 | Jucato and i saved a lot by using bluetooth wired ones break easily |
| 09:55.38 | quassel251 | its really great technology |
| 09:55.41 | quassel251 | ones it works |
| 09:55.46 | quassel251 | once* |
| 09:56.01 | Jucato | like I said, stay with what works for you |
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| 09:56.12 | quassel251 | yeah it works on windows alone |
| 09:56.14 | Jucato | if it works in Windows and you like it better, then go ahead |
| 09:56.28 | quassel251 | no i use it after midnight only |
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| 09:56.51 | quassel251 | so in the night i have to use windows for music listening but if i can ever get it to work under kde i wont have to |
| 09:56.51 | Jucato | but don't go presuming that just because you didn't receive an answer in *here*, a *user* support channel, then something is "too advanced for kde" or "too advanced for kde devs" |
| 09:57.01 | bonsaikitten | I've had my wired headphones for about a decade now, they work quite well ;) |
| 09:57.15 | quassel251 | yeah well i move a lot |
| 09:57.22 | quassel251 | and they break quickly for me |
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| 09:57.36 | quassel251 | wireless is better for me :) |
| 09:59.26 | quassel251 | Jucato: the #kdebluetooth channel has 5 people in it me included :) its a speciality i presume that based on the number of devs there |
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| 09:59.59 | quassel251 | the fact that nobody referred me to it is also strange |
| 10:00.05 | quassel251 | i found it via googling just now |
| 10:00.24 | Jucato | there are 402 people in #kde, me included. that doesn't say much |
| 10:00.26 | sigma_za | are there really major improvements between kde4.1 and 4.1.1? |
| 10:00.58 | sigma_za | what did you find by googling? |
| 10:01.05 | Jucato | quassel251: you are also presuming that communication between kbluetooth devs happen primarily and mostly in IRC |
| 10:01.06 | quassel251 | that there is a #kdebluetooth |
| 10:01.19 | Jucato | sigma_za: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_1to4_1_1.php |
| 10:01.24 | quassel251 | Jucato: i asked about bluetooth in many channels |
| 10:01.29 | quassel251 | it got me banned even |
| 10:01.36 | quassel251 | thats how hard it is |
| 10:01.54 | quassel251 | if it was easy i would have gotten some answers |
| 10:02.01 | Jucato | ergo it is too advanced for kde and too advanced for kde devs |
| 10:02.07 | quassel251 | its a speciality |
| 10:02.19 | sigma_za | how did you manage to get banned by doing that |
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| 10:02.55 | quassel251 | well they get easily offended when you tell them the support is lacking i was just trying to be constructive in my critique |
| 10:03.03 | quassel251 | they dont like feedback from users i suppose |
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| 10:03.22 | pinotree | telling "foobar is too advanced for you" can be unrespectful |
| 10:03.24 | quassel251 | if its not 100% positive its considered insulting |
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| 10:04.21 | quassel251 | i just noticed not a lot of kde helpers are bluetooth experts which i can understand since bluetooth isnt ubiquitous |
| 10:04.36 | quassel251 | so its a specialism to know a lot about it |
| 10:04.44 | quassel251 | thats not an insult |
| 10:04.50 | quassel251 | thats the truth |
| 10:05.06 | pinotree | that's not what you said |
| 10:05.12 | pinotree | i repeat: telling "foobar is too advanced for you" can be unrespectful |
| 10:05.21 | Jucato | so how did you jump to the conclusion that bluetooth is too advanced for kde/devs because you didn't get a satisfactory answer within 5 minutes? |
| 10:05.29 | quassel251 | yeah true its not what i said but its what i meant |
| 10:06.01 | quassel251 | Jucato i have asked before many times without success |
| 10:06.07 | Jucato | in *here* |
| 10:06.14 | Jucato | right *now* |
| 10:06.15 | quassel251 | in kubuntu |
| 10:06.36 | quassel251 | and its strange nobody could even refer me to kdebluetooth |
| 10:06.47 | quassel251 | normally thats the first thing that happens |
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| 10:08.30 | d1zzy | hi. does current kdelibs trunk "cmakes" successfully for anyone? |
| 10:08.44 | pinotree | what is the problem? |
| 10:09.00 | d1zzy | well it errors about kde4_add_executable unknown command |
| 10:09.03 | d1zzy | at cmake time |
| 10:09.15 | d1zzy | Im upgrading from cmake 2.6.0 to 2.6.1 as we speak but I dont think it will fix it |
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| 10:09.41 | pinotree | how are you running cmake? |
| 10:09.43 | d1zzy | I found kde4_add_executable in cmake/modules/KDE4Macros.cmake and that seems to be included from FindKDE4Internal.cmake but for some reason that doesnt work |
| 10:09.59 | d1zzy | cd kdelibs/build && cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/path/to/install .. |
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| 10:11.08 | d1zzy | -- Check size of struct sockaddr_in6 - done |
| 10:11.08 | d1zzy | CMake Error at kdecore/kconfig_compiler/CMakeLists.txt:11 (kde4_add_executable): Unknown CMake command "kde4_add_executable". |
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| 10:11.47 | famicom | Yo |
| 10:11.51 | famicom | anyone here |
| 10:12.13 | annma | d1zzy: I updated this morning and all was OK |
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| 10:13.03 | d1zzy | annma: maybe I ask that you try now? just to be sure |
| 10:13.13 | d1zzy | I am also assuming it may be related to my system but I have no idea what to check for |
| 10:13.17 | d1zzy | it compiled fine some time ago |
| 10:13.30 | famicom | Im running KDE on an UMPC at a resolution of 800x480 |
| 10:13.32 | annma | when was the last time you built? |
| 10:13.49 | famicom | can someone please give me a suggestion on how to fit windows on it |
| 10:14.18 | annma | fit windows? |
| 10:14.23 | famicom | yeah |
| 10:14.31 | d1zzy | annma: seems that on 1st of september I compiled successfully last time |
| 10:14.32 | annma | kwin windows? |
| 10:14.32 | famicom | i have windows that are being cut off |
| 10:14.35 | famicom | yeah |
| 10:14.36 | famicom | kwin |
| 10:14.41 | famicom | not MSFT windows |
| 10:14.51 | annma | cut of in what apps? |
| 10:14.59 | famicom | kpersonalizer for one |
| 10:15.07 | annma | use the alt key |
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| 10:15.35 | famicom | ok great |
| 10:15.39 | annma | d1zzy: it's all OK |
| 10:15.47 | famicom | but how can i tell kwin to stay within certain constraints |
| 10:15.48 | annma | famicom: kpersonalizer is gone for KDE4 |
| 10:15.57 | d1zzy | annma: any idea how to debug this issue? |
| 10:16.11 | Jucato | famicom: yeah, the KDE 3 UI wasn't really "optimized" for small displays (with small resolutions...) |
| 10:16.12 | annma | if you notice other problems send an email to kde-devel famicom |
| 10:16.31 | annma | we're working on issues and most are fixed |
| 10:16.36 | famicom | oh |
| 10:16.41 | famicom | ell |
| 10:16.46 | annma | d1zzy: nuke your build dir and retry |
| 10:16.50 | famicom | is there any way i can make shit fit |
| 10:16.51 | famicom | like |
| 10:16.57 | famicom | lower the DPI or something |
| 10:17.50 | Jucato | was beginning to think famicom was running KDE on a nintendo famicom :) |
| 10:18.07 | d1zzy | annma: it's a fresh checkout... :-/ |
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| 10:18.35 | d1zzy | and as expected removing all build dir files and rerunning cmake produces the same error |
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| 10:21.03 | famicom | but seriously |
| 10:21.09 | famicom | what the fuck is this shit about |
| 10:21.19 | Jucato | please watch the language |
| 10:21.26 | pinotree | you can use a more polite language, please |
| 10:21.27 | famicom | my window manager performed just fine in 640x480 six years ago |
| 10:21.44 | famicom | why the fuck does it break half a decade later |
| 10:21.52 | famicom | will watch his words from now |
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| 10:22.48 | kriko | everybody is special! |
| 10:22.59 | quassel251 | esp. you |
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| 10:24.18 | kriko | exactly! |
| 10:25.02 | kriko | who is maintaining kwin? |
| 10:25.04 | kriko | https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=422532 |
| 10:25.25 | Jucato | still the same guy since KDE 3 (or KDE 2 even?) |
| 10:25.34 | famicom | well whoever it is |
| 10:25.38 | Zarin | kriko, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170085 |
| 10:25.43 | famicom | I would expect GNOMe to break on something liek this |
| 10:25.46 | famicom | Not KDE |
| 10:26.03 | kriko | are only nvidia cards affected? |
| 10:26.04 | Jucato | famicom: what KDE version were you using a decade ago? |
| 10:26.18 | Zarin | kriko, actually it looks like Lubos has already found your thread |
| 10:26.23 | Zarin | He is the maintainer |
| 10:26.40 | famicom | Jucato half a decade ago |
| 10:26.42 | Jucato | kriko: see the Lubos Lunak comments |
| 10:26.43 | famicom | not a whole decade |
| 10:27.04 | kriko | so there is a fix |
| 10:27.24 | kriko | Let see how much time it takes for novell to deploy it into factory repo |
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| 10:31.39 | lemma | famicom: please post whichever window doesn't fit to the mailinglist like annma suggested. |
| 10:31.45 | lemma | famicom: ranting will not help make them smaller |
| 10:32.35 | famicom | yes |
| 10:32.46 | famicom | but it does make me feel good |
| 10:33.10 | Shirakawasuna | you know, there's some nice brick walls that would love some angry typing |
| 10:33.21 | Shirakawasuna | did you ever think about their feelings? |
| 10:34.22 | kriko | :) |
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| 10:37.13 | quassel251 | kriko: i am aquaman :O |
| 10:37.35 | quassel251 | i am made out of 80% water :O |
| 10:37.51 | quassel251 | people feel so special yet we are 80% water ;o |
| 10:37.56 | quassel251 | is water special? |
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| 10:38.44 | d1zzy | annma: it is tho something to do with a recent change, I've downgraded to 1st of september svn and it cmakes fine |
| 10:38.55 | d1zzy | annma: I'll performa binary search for the commit that breaks it for me |
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| 10:38.58 | quassel251 | i am special :O |
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| 10:39.19 | quassel251 | everyone likes me |
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| 10:39.53 | kriko | you definitely are special |
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| 10:40.31 | quassel251 | i have aspergers :O |
| 10:40.36 | quassel251 | you know it |
| 10:40.37 | quassel251 | kriko: |
| 10:40.44 | quassel251 | its special |
| 10:40.57 | quassel251 | life is special they say |
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| 10:41.04 | bonsaikitten | meh, people who claim they have aspergers usually just have crainial-rectal inversion ;) |
| 10:41.12 | quassel251 | lol |
| 10:41.15 | tuxick | sounds painful |
| 10:41.38 | quassel251 | i am watching recorded dejaview in dragonplayer :P |
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| 10:41.54 | quassel251 | an old kidshow from the 80s |
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| 10:42.19 | quassel251 | kde4 is nice but is there a automater for kde4 like the osx automater? |
| 10:42.25 | quassel251 | i mean a commander |
| 10:42.32 | kriko | automater what is that? |
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| 10:44.32 | wilsonsamm | Hmm, I'm recompiling arts and kdelibs, and now kicker, the panel, has crashed! |
| 10:44.46 | kriko | wilsonsamm: well kicker is buggy |
| 10:44.48 | wilsonsamm | How can I restart it again? |
| 10:44.59 | kriko | alt+f2 â kicker |
| 10:45.11 | kriko | it should automatically |
| 10:45.14 | kriko | mostly* |
| 10:45.19 | quassel251 | http://commit-digest.org/issues/2006-10-01/files/workflow.t |
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| 10:45.30 | wilsonsamm | It isn't working |
| 10:45.41 | kriko | click on desktop â run command |
| 10:45.42 | wilsonsamm | here's the output as I start it again |
| 10:45.55 | wilsonsamm | $ kicker |
| 10:45.55 | wilsonsamm | kicker: symbol lookup error: /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZThn240_N10QPopupMenu10updateItemEi |
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| 10:46.19 | kriko | it seems like you are stuck in a middle of an update |
| 10:46.45 | kriko | ah, you are recompiling kdelibs |
| 10:46.55 | kriko | you installed kdelibs already? |
| 10:46.56 | wilsonsamm | Yes, but I reckoned that kicker shouldn't crash because of it!? |
| 10:46.58 | wilsonsamm | ah yes |
| 10:47.22 | kriko | well recompile and install rest of dekstop and it should work again |
| 10:47.45 | wilsonsamm | reinstall rest of desktop? |
| 10:48.09 | kriko | why did you manually recompile and reinstall just kdelibs? |
| 10:48.16 | quassel251 | kriko: WorKflow for kde4 where can i get it? |
| 10:48.25 | wilsonsamm | I wanted only to compile Qt with the immqt module, now all what depends on it needs recomiling |
| 10:48.27 | kriko | quassel251: I don't know |
| 10:48.42 | kriko | wilsonsamm: sounds like fun |
| 10:48.46 | kriko | gotta go |
| 10:48.52 | wilsonsamm | alright :-) |
| 10:48.58 | wilsonsamm | see you 'll |
| 10:49.14 | quassel251 | your honesty makes you special kriko :) |
| 10:49.20 | d1zzy | annma: what automoc version do you have installed? |
| 10:51.02 | quassel251 | d1zzy: ;0 |
| 10:51.05 | quassel251 | annma: |
| 10:51.19 | quassel251 | annma: je taime :) |
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| 10:51.48 | d1zzy | annma: I located the commit that creates my problem, it is 855822 |
| 10:52.03 | d1zzy | annma: it seems to just bump the requirement for automoc from 0.9.84 to 0.9.87 |
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| 10:52.43 | d1zzy | annma: however, instead of me getting some error saying I need to install automoc 0.9.87 I instead get that strange error that seems completely unrelated. so maybe macro_ensure_version() needs some fixing too |
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| 10:58.00 | d1zzy | there is no automoc release with version higher than 0.9.84, how come? |
| 10:58.10 | pinotree | there is |
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| 10:59.19 | d1zzy | where? |
| 10:59.37 | d1zzy | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/automoc4 only lists 0.9.94 |
| 11:00.21 | RichiH | i have the pid of a konqui instance |
| 11:00.34 | RichiH | i need to find out which of my konquis that is |
| 11:00.47 | quassel251 | kde4 is just like vista |
| 11:00.48 | RichiH | can i make it maximize itself via dbus or something? |
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| 11:00.54 | quassel251 | thats a comoliment btw :O |
| 11:00.59 | quassel251 | compliment |
| 11:01.13 | quassel251 | hi RichiH |
| 11:01.24 | quassel251 | arent you superadmin ? |
| 11:01.43 | Jucato | d1zzy: trunk has 0.9.87 |
| 11:02.19 | d1zzy | Jucato: but there isn't any separate release |
| 11:02.23 | d1zzy | like with 0.9.84 |
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| 11:02.26 | d1zzy | that's one issue |
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| 11:02.46 | Jucato | d1zzy: those are not "releases" from automoc. those are just snapshots |
| 11:02.57 | RichiH | quassel251: if you mean if i am freenode staff, then yes |
| 11:02.58 | d1zzy | the other is that it seems that macro_ensure_version() doesnt produce a nice error when I have a too old automoc, it just fails later with some unrelated error |
| 11:03.07 | d1zzy | Jucato: ok, any idea how to get a new snapshot? |
| 11:03.20 | d1zzy | Jucato: it would help package maintainers to not require svn and just require 0.9.87 snapshot :) |
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| 11:05.08 | Jucato | that I don't know. I think dirk generates the snapshots automatically twice a week |
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| 11:05.40 | d1zzy | hmm 0.9.84 is much older than 2 weeks ago :) |
| 11:05.55 | Jucato | maybe only the unstable KDE modules then |
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| 11:07.17 | mikos | Hello, please does Okular (from KDE 4.1.1) support PDF forms editing (filling)? |
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| 11:09.26 | jazka | mikos: I think so, I remember filling out a form with it |
| 11:10.46 | pinotree | mikos: no need to ask in more channels... |
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| 11:13.05 | ForgeAus | why would flash work in konqui for root user but not a normal user? |
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| 11:17.04 | jazka | anyone experiencing problems with "save as" dialog? for example on konqueror, I try to save a file as, the filename becomes empty on the dialog (kde 4.1.64, had the same problem with 4.1)? |
| 11:18.40 | mikos | pinotree: Sorry, I tried #okular channel but it seemed to me nearly empty, so I have tried #kde too... |
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| 11:19.20 | ForgeAus | hehe I wonder if kde4 works with andLinux |
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| 11:38.36 | hyper_ch | with kde 4.1.1 finally the kdepim bug upon crashing because of diIMAP is gone ;) great |
| 11:38.48 | bonsaikitten | hyper_ch: good to hear :) |
| 11:39.07 | hyper_ch | that was so annoying that I switched to normal imap for a while |
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| 11:42.31 | d1zzy | hyper_ch: oh? I've used dimap all the last month since 4.1.0 release |
| 11:42.35 | d1zzy | didnt noticed any crash |
| 11:42.45 | d1zzy | actually IMO 4.1.x kmail is much more stable than 3.5.x |
| 11:43.10 | hyper_ch | d1zzy: the bug has been fixed a while ago... it was just that the ubuntu ppa repos weren't updated ;) |
| 11:44.15 | quassel251 | imo using compiz + emerald with an oxygen theme is superior to kwin, which subsequently causes playback issues in fullscreenmodus in dragonplayer |
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| 11:48.03 | axell | Hi everybody! Can anyone tll me where to download phonon?) |
| 11:48.35 | quassel251 | #phonon |
| 11:48.43 | axell | thanx)))))) |
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| 11:49.32 | hyper_ch | why can't I copy text from akreggator in kdepim to my clipboard? |
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| 11:49.54 | wilsonsamm | recompiling kdelibs is taking ages :-( |
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| 11:50.40 | bonsaikitten | wilsonsamm: try rebuilding everything twice. That sucks :) |
| 11:51.04 | wilsonsamm | bonsaikitten: you're on gentoo too? |
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| 11:51.43 | bonsaikitten | wilsonsamm: I am one of the maintainers of the kdesvn-portage overlay |
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| 11:52.03 | bonsaikitten | did the 4.1.1 bump and 4.1.64 snapshot ebuilds yesterday, and it seems to all compile |
| 11:52.14 | bonsaikitten | is very happy with that |
| 11:53.57 | wilsonsamm | Hmm, I'm wanting to put KDE 4 on my gentoo system, but it's a tricky business |
| 11:54.08 | wilsonsamm | for me, anyway |
| 11:54.10 | bgmiki | Sysinfo for 'mi-desktop': Linux 2.6.24-21-generic running KDE 4.1.65 (KDE 4.1.65 (KDE 4.2 >= 20080903)), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz at 2400 MHz (4800 bogomips), HD: 154/464GB, RAM: 3401/3545MB, 148 proc's, 56.8min up |
| 11:54.23 | bonsaikitten | why? overlays have enough documentation, and there's good support on IRC |
| 11:54.45 | bonsaikitten | bgmiki: .65, eh? I better update too! ;) |
| 11:54.52 | bgmiki | :) |
| 11:55.29 | wilsonsamm | I can't quite work it out. I'm still at the stage where I need to unmask the things, but it seems to be unmasked by the profile I'm using |
| 11:55.49 | bonsaikitten | wilsonsamm: #gentoo-kde4-live if you need any help |
| 11:55.59 | wilsonsamm | the docs say, people with ~amd64 keyword should not have to unmask anything |
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| 11:56.47 | wilsonsamm | Thanks, |
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| 12:03.35 | ForgeAus | how to get konqui to stop asking to save passwords? |
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| 12:14.17 | Half-Left | Nice, fade on login with Desktop effects enabled now |
| 12:16.07 | twouters | is anyone else having problems with opening http://acid3.acidtests.org/ in konqueror 4.1.1 ? |
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| 12:18.04 | Half-Left | nope |
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| 12:18.50 | twouters | hmz, mine popups a download dialog and then crashes |
| 12:18.52 | Half-Left | twouters: Link test failed? |
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| 12:19.52 | twouters | no, it shows "JS?", goes to 1% and then crashes |
| 12:20.18 | twouters | I'll guess I have to install it with debugging stuff and see what goes wrong |
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| 12:20.42 | Half-Left | Works here, 76% |
| 12:21.59 | quassel251 | how can i modify the way the scrolling happens in kde4? |
| 12:22.16 | quassel251 | konqueror scrolls like a vista app :/ |
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| 12:22.30 | quassel251 | yerky |
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| 12:22.54 | Half-Left | How do you mean? |
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| 12:25.36 | Guest95707 | bye |
| 12:25.39 | Guest95707 | exit |
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| 12:25.52 | _lemma | twouters: it opens for me and starts running, then crashes after a few percent |
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| 12:30.08 | ebdomino | rou / hello |
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| 12:31.11 | twouters | _lemma: can you check whether you have js debugging enabled or not? |
| 12:31.24 | twouters | I've just disabled it and now it doesn't crash |
| 12:32.01 | _lemma | twouters: it was disabled. it crashes with both js debugging enabled and disabled |
| 12:32.39 | twouters | weird :-) |
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| 12:35.50 | Half-Left | yo gkiagia |
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| 12:37.09 | gkiagia | yo Half-Left |
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| 12:51.10 | seemant | oh yeah I wanted to know something else: how do I get firefox + kde integrated better (e.g. have firefox's "send link" option use kmail, etc) |
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| 12:56.59 | Half-Left | seemant: What happens anyway? |
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| 13:00.31 | sorush20 | my kde menu is messed up any help |
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| 13:01.49 | ForgeAus | messed up how exactly? |
| 13:01.50 | Rapp_ | hi everyone! |
| 13:02.15 | Rapp_ | is there a way to connect to a running KDE desktop, remotely, when no VNC or rdesktop server is running? |
| 13:02.27 | Rapp_ | i.e. can i fire up one remotely (via ssh), and connect? |
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| 13:04.42 | seemant | Half-Left: exactly nothing |
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| 13:15.01 | gkiagia | Rapp_: I think this is a bit difficult, but you can try to start krfb (via ssh -X). not sure though if that will work |
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| 13:15.38 | gkiagia | hmm, krfb doesn't want to quit :/ |
| 13:15.46 | Rapp_ | gkiagia, already solved my problem. installing x11vnc, then running x11vnc -display :0, and exporting this via SSH port forwarding. that way its even secure ;) |
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| 13:16.27 | gkiagia | damn, how is that possible? I press quit, the confirmation dialog comes up and it disappears before I have a chance to press quit ! |
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| 13:19.00 | seemant | Half-Left: ok, but what about opening up urls from the terminal (with "Open Link" right click option) to use Firefox instead Konqueror? |
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| 13:20.10 | Half-Left | seemant: Systemsetiings--->Default Applications |
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| 13:23.39 | Half-Left | I really hope a nice network manager for KDE4 comes out soon |
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| 13:24.38 | seemant | Half-Left: oh that was easy -- is there a way to make it not have a separate thingy in the task manager? |
| 13:24.43 | lesergi | hi all |
| 13:24.52 | seemant | or do I need to send some flag to firefox for that? |
| 13:24.58 | seemant | firefox opens it in a new tab |
| 13:25.03 | seemant | but kde still has a new thingy |
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| 13:25.53 | lesergi | why gif animations cannot be viewed in gwenview of KDE4?? |
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| 13:27.35 | shred | is there a client for transfering data via ssl with a gui on kde? |
| 13:28.38 | Half-Left | seemant: I think you can pass a command to it something like firefox -u, can't remember what it was |
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| 13:29.21 | Half-Left | shred: Should imagine so, on kde-apps.org |
| 13:29.56 | seemant | thanks Half-Left |
| 13:30.17 | seemant | Half-Left: so the only thing which remains is the "send link" behaving properly from firefox |
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| 13:30.50 | Half-Left | seemant: Not tried it actually, trying to find a email link :p |
| 13:30.53 | Jucato | lesergi: yeah. dunno why though. but for now, you can view animated GIF's in Konqueror, just make sure you are using View menu -> View Mode -> Embeddable Image Viewer |
| 13:31.01 | Jucato | aw too late :( |
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| 13:31.08 | Barafu | Please, give me advise on konqueror. I have downloaded a file, and I know it to be PDF. but konqueror shows it to be Plaint Text and wants to open it in Kate. I run into this thing often - and it annoys. How to fix a file? |
| 13:31.10 | thiago | shred: in Konqueror, type: https://hostname |
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| 13:31.14 | fujisan | !widget style |
| 13:31.23 | fujisan | how do i install a widget style in kde3? |
| 13:31.32 | thiago | fujisan: get the sources, compile, make install |
| 13:31.43 | fujisan | its a deb |
| 13:31.53 | fujisan | compile? |
| 13:31.55 | thiago | yes |
| 13:32.03 | thiago | if you have a precompiled, ask in your distro's channel |
| 13:32.03 | seemant | Half-Left: no no, not an email link |
| 13:32.13 | fujisan | i cant |
| 13:32.17 | seemant | Half-Left: just any link, firefox has an option in the right click menu called "Send Link" |
| 13:32.32 | thiago | fujisan: sure you can. |
| 13:32.42 | Jucato | he can't if he's banned :) |
| 13:32.42 | fujisan | no i cant |
| 13:32.43 | seemant | it's after "Bookmark link" and "Save Link As...' |
| 13:32.51 | shred | thiago: does not work, there is an webserver running on the same server - so i get to the webpage :/ |
| 13:32.52 | thiago | it's not my problem if he's benned |
| 13:32.57 | thiago | we can't help with distro issues |
| 13:32.59 | Jucato | not mine either |
| 13:33.02 | Jucato | at least, not anymore :) |
| 13:33.05 | thiago | shred: that's what was supposed to happen. |
| 13:33.17 | thiago | shred: now use the web services facilities provided on that web server. |
| 13:33.32 | Half-Left | fujisan, Not a KDE question but sudo dpkg -i "packagename" :) |
| 13:33.33 | hyper_ch | anyone knows how I can make the context menu, when I right click on an application, to be ordered like: (1) To Desktop (2) Advanced ? |
| 13:33.43 | shred | errr, they dont provide upload via webservice, but that is, what i need ;) |
| 13:33.51 | Half-Left | Oh dear, thats it now |
| 13:33.54 | thiago | shred: then ask them to provide. |
| 13:34.06 | thiago | shred: what other services do they provide? |
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| 13:34.34 | Half-Left | Jucato: Will you spank me for that? |
| 13:34.39 | shred | thiago: afaik ssl and a webserver |
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| 13:34.49 | thiago | shred: so http and https |
| 13:34.53 | Jucato | Half-Left: nope. but don't complain if he attaches to you like a remora :) |
| 13:35.01 | thiago | shred: ask them how you're supposed to get data there. |
| 13:35.06 | thiago | shred: we can't help you do that. |
| 13:35.13 | Half-Left | hahahaa |
| 13:35.39 | shred | thiago: and ssh |
| 13:35.45 | thiago | shred: ah, now we're talking |
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| 13:35.52 | shred | thiago: does that help? |
| 13:35.54 | thiago | shred: use sftp://hostname or fish://hostname in Konqueror |
| 13:36.05 | thiago | or Dolphin |
| 13:36.30 | olejl | On my screen I have 2 desktops. On in the background covering the entire screen. One maller in the front covering around 75% of my screen. Can somebody tell me where I shold start looking to be able to remove one of them? |
| 13:37.17 | shred | thiago: thx very much. i guess, i presented myself again as a greenhorn ^^ |
| 13:38.00 | thiago | has no idea what a greenhorn is |
| 13:39.27 | shred | someone, who is pretty new to some area, and doesnt know a lot |
| 13:39.32 | shred | kind of ;) |
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| 13:39.41 | shred | but thank you :) |
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| 13:42.00 | shevy | will kde recommend moving to kde 4.* ? |
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| 13:42.20 | pinotree | kde recommends using what you like more |
| 13:42.31 | pinotree | and what fits better _for you_ |
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| 13:43.37 | thiago | liked KDE 2 |
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| 13:44.35 | Half-Left | shevy: We are not dictators like Microsoft and Apple |
| 13:45.03 | shevy | no i mean at one point in history kde would recommend to upgrade to 4.x from the 3.x series or? |
| 13:45.10 | Half-Left | Use KDE4.1 yer :p |
| 13:45.33 | annma | shevy: it all depnds on you, you have the freedom |
| 13:45.55 | annma | at one point distros will only ship KDE 4 probably |
| 13:46.14 | annma | but right now you have full choice |
| 13:46.46 | Half-Left | Yer but still should have the option for KDE3.x in their repos but thats down to them |
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| 13:48.35 | Half-Left | But in the end it's upto you to try it and see for yourself |
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| 13:50.29 | sandsmark | some distros have dropped kde 3 already |
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| 13:53.43 | sabrewulf | hello folks. is there a way of integrating svn into Kate? is there a plugin anywhere for it? |
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| 13:54.18 | annma | sabrewulf: konsole |
| 13:54.22 | annma | ;) |
| 13:54.30 | sabrewulf | :) he he... |
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| 13:55.15 | sabrewulf | it would be nice to have a "checkin/checkout" svn button in the kate interface. |
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| 13:57.09 | sandsmark | sabrewulf: I think that's what kdevelop is for =) |
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| 14:05.58 | manefesto | Hello |
| 14:06.21 | manefesto | who use kde 3.5.10 in freebsd ? |
| 14:06.30 | sandsmark | is this useful? http://rafb.net/p/8Fjg9u10.html |
| 14:06.37 | sandsmark | I can't seem to find it on bugs.kde.org already |
| 14:06.58 | sandsmark | (konqueror consistently crashes when quitting) |
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| 14:08.26 | manefesto | There is no user freebsd? |
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| 14:09.11 | sandsmark | manefesto: I use Linnix |
| 14:09.13 | Half-Left | Ask in their channel |
| 14:10.11 | Half-Left | Who asked about kmidi in KDE4? |
| 14:10.31 | sandsmark | someone yesterday =) |
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| 14:10.58 | paulez | what is the better irc client for kde4 ? |
| 14:11.01 | Half-Left | oh, well it's in extragrear/multimedia |
| 14:11.13 | sandsmark | paulez: quassel, imho |
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| 14:12.24 | manefesto | updated the ports and now can not mount usb flash drive, you get the error "kde mediamanager error" |
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| 14:13.53 | Half-Left | manefesto: What distro and are you using KDM? |
| 14:13.56 | manefesto | and shut down kded |
| 14:14.16 | manefesto | i use freebsd 7.1-prerelease and use KDM |
| 14:15.00 | manefesto | This error only in freebsd? |
| 14:15.29 | Jucato | Half-Left: what does KDM have to do with it? |
| 14:15.30 | Half-Left | Just wondering because I got that error, found out for some reason it was KDM |
| 14:15.46 | Jucato | hm... |
| 14:15.49 | Jucato | the login manager? |
| 14:16.09 | Jucato | (that would be weird ) |
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| 14:16.15 | Half-Left | Jucato: Not sure, maybe my qurky setup, but I started GDM and it was ok |
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| 14:17.01 | Half-Left | Since it's primary setup for GDM to work and start stuff like dbus, not sure on what exactly the issue was |
| 14:17.03 | manefesto | maybe disable autostart X and manual start kde ? |
| 14:17.17 | Half-Left | i.e GNOME distro based |
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| 14:17.34 | sandsmark | manefesto: is dbus running? |
| 14:17.42 | sandsmark | manefesto: and does freebsd use hal? |
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| 14:17.49 | Half-Left | I got freedesktop erros when mounting devices |
| 14:18.00 | manefesto | why use gnome & |
| 14:18.14 | manefesto | yes...dbus started and hald started. |
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| 14:18.33 | Jucato | kded running? |
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| 14:19.22 | manefesto | after trying to enter the media: / / error and broken kded |
| 14:19.30 | sandsmark | manefesto: are you in the appropriate groups? ("storage" on my system, for example) |
| 14:19.39 | manefesto | yes...after start kde? kded started |
| 14:20.06 | manefesto | in kde 3.5.9 that worked fine |
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| 14:21.05 | Jucato | well kded should be running to be able to handle media... you might also want to check KControl -> KDE Components -> Service Manager -> KDED Media Manager is running |
| 14:22.55 | manefesto | if login 'KControl -> KDE Components -> Service Manager -> KDED Media Manager is running' worked,after 'kde mediamanager' error 'service manager' sad 'kded not running' |
| 14:23.54 | manefesto | Sorry for my English |
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| 14:28.52 | manefesto | only me use freebsd with kde ? |
| 14:29.54 | Jucato | I think there's a #freebsd-kde or #kde-freebsd channel |
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| 14:31.25 | manefesto | god by |
| 14:31.30 | manefesto | good =) |
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| 14:31.48 | sandsmark | muh, drawing errors in konsole =/ |
| 14:31.52 | sandsmark | doesn't redraw everything |
| 14:32.28 | Rioting_pacifist | akregator crashes and running it in console doesnt give me an error, i suspect its because of the db thing it warned me about, is there a fix_akregator_database_using_magic command or something. |
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| 14:38.54 | sandsmark | what's the shortcut for disabling desktop effects? |
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| 14:43.16 | jazka | sandsmark: alt+shift+f12 |
| 14:43.28 | sandsmark | thanks =) |
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| 14:46.21 | hoonteke | I'm still trying to build kdelibs. I'm now able to build to about 46%. Does this error mean anything to anyone? (I started with an empty/non-existent build/kde/kdelibs/ directory, so it's a "fresh" build) http://rafb.net/p/OTG9Di97.html |
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| 14:50.33 | ngirard | Hello dear people, is it possible to execute KDE4's font installer from a KDE3 session ? |
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| 14:54.13 | zak_ | can i transfer files /folders from a pc (runnig linux) to a laptop running windows XP, using LISa? |
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| 14:55.57 | ngirard | Zaister_: sure, you might want to use winscp on windows and make sure your ssh daemon is running on your linux box |
| 14:56.04 | ngirard | zak_: sure, you might want to use winscp on windows and make sure your ssh daemon is running on your linux box |
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| 14:56.55 | zak_ | already running on my pc :)so next step need to install winscp, can i use an ethernet cable to do that ? |
| 14:57.20 | ngirard | zak_: to perform the transfer ? |
| 14:57.27 | zak_ | yes |
| 14:57.31 | ngirard | zak_: sure |
| 14:57.50 | zak_ | so first thins i have to do is install that prg on windows ;) |
| 14:57.55 | zak_ | ok what is next |
| 14:57.58 | ngirard | zak_: yes |
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| 14:59.07 | zak_ | ngirard: sorry never done this before :) can you tell me please waht is the next step please? |
| 15:00.08 | ngirard | zak_: google for 'winscp', download the stuff and install it. |
| 15:00.50 | zak_ | thats is easy :) but i am asking about the next step, i mean waht comes next installing that prg ? |
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| 15:03.13 | pinotree | hoonteke: you need strigi from svn |
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| 15:03.50 | ngirard | zak_: make sure both machines share the same network |
| 15:04.17 | zak_ | ngirard: iam gonna connect them using an ethernet cable :) |
| 15:04.20 | hoonteke | pinotree: hmm. alright I'll get that ... from where? |
| 15:04.29 | ngirard | zak_: make sure sshd is up & running on the linux box by typing "ssh localhost" in a shell |
| 15:04.31 | pinotree | trunk/kdesupport/strigi |
| 15:04.54 | hoonteke | pinotree: I also note this google find: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1178936, where it fails *way* before 46% with same error |
| 15:05.03 | zak_ | ngirard: i did but got an error message :/ i have a pubkey installed here on my linux machine |
| 15:05.10 | pinotree | percentage does not matter at all |
| 15:05.21 | hoonteke | actually, I've already pulled kdesupport ... I'll get reget it / svn clean it and build |
| 15:05.53 | ngirard | zak_: forget about the message ; but wait: if you aren't in a network that solution won't work |
| 15:06.10 | ngirard | zak_: is that what you mean by " gonna connect them using an ethernet cable" ? |
| 15:06.13 | hoonteke | pinotree: me == noob. It's basically just cmakekde in the src directory, yes? |
| 15:06.23 | pinotree | i don't use cmakekde, sorry |
| 15:06.24 | sege_ | hmm, 4.1.1 feels alot quicker than 4.1.0.. lovely. |
| 15:06.47 | hoonteke | pinotree: ah ... I'm just trying to follow directions at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 15:06.49 | pinotree | but cmake must be run in the builddir, not in the srcdir |
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| 15:07.02 | jnr | hey guys is anyone generous enough to give me five bucks im willing to do anything aye please guys |
| 15:07.02 | zak_ | ngirard: yes |
| 15:07.26 | jnr | thanks zak i really appreciate it aye |
| 15:07.33 | zak_ | ngirard: i mean , iam gonna conenct them directly using that cable |
| 15:07.41 | hoonteke | pinotree: alright, cmakekde is in the user's bashrc ... appears to be just a wrapper to do just that. cool |
| 15:07.42 | zak_ | not through a network though |
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| 15:07.47 | hoonteke | I'll stick with the directions though. |
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| 15:10.32 | ngirard | zak_: well, that might work anyway. You have to give a static IP address to both machines, say 192.168.1.1 for the linux box, and 192.168.1.2 for the xp box |
| 15:10.53 | ngirard | zak_: 255.255.255.0 for the netmask, and no gateway |
| 15:12.24 | zak_ | ok:) |
| 15:12.41 | ngirard | zak_: are you fine with this or u need help ? |
| 15:12.50 | zak_ | :) |
| 15:13.39 | zak_ | ngirard: just wana ask , i have a routeur switcher , what if i plugg the lappy ? |
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| 15:14.24 | ngirard | zak_: hey, let's go straight with the sole cable |
| 15:14.35 | ngirard | zak_: first, then we'l see |
| 15:15.01 | ngirard | zak_: which distrib on the linux box ? |
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| 15:15.20 | zak_ | the pb is if i plugg the ethernet cable i won't be able to be connected to the internet :/ |
| 15:16.13 | ngirard | zak_: *of course*. but you already have dl winscp, do you ? |
| 15:16.45 | zak_ | ok hold on please gonna install it i will let u know when it s done |
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| 15:17.15 | wstephenson | zak_: just plug them both into the router and let that dhcp both machines. |
| 15:17.16 | ngirard | zak_: ok but i'll soon be running out of time :( |
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| 15:20.13 | shevy | does anyone know to which package Phonon libraries and includes belong? kdelibs requires them, i am not sure where they are to be found |
| 15:21.19 | annma | what kde version are you building? |
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| 15:21.49 | shevy | hmm 4.1.64 |
| 15:22.53 | zak_ | ngirard: done |
| 15:23.20 | zak_ | i have to fill in some information in winscp window |
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| 15:24.15 | zak_ | host name / user namer/password ?what client shall i chooose ?sftp or ftp? |
| 15:25.00 | ngirard | zak_: wait. make sure sshd is up & running on the linux box by typing "ssh localhost" in a shell |
| 15:25.08 | zak_ | yes it s running |
| 15:25.31 | zak_ | linux-zak:/home/zak # ssh localhost |
| 15:25.32 | zak_ | Permission denied (publickey). |
| 15:25.38 | ngirard | zak_: ok. then determine the linux box's ip address |
| 15:25.47 | zak_ | ngirard: how to |
| 15:25.49 | ngirard | zak_: # ifconfig |
| 15:25.50 | zak_ | ,? |
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| 15:26.26 | ngirard | zak_: or perhaps, # /sbin/ifconfig |
| 15:27.08 | zak_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:27.21 | zak_ | or |
| 15:27.24 | zak_ | inet adr:127.0.0.1 Masque:255.0.0.0 |
| 15:27.30 | ngirard | zak_: ok; then bak to the xp box; choose sftp, |
| 15:27.49 | ngirard | zak_: and type 192.168.1.3 |
| 15:28.00 | zak_ | okhost name? |
| 15:28.05 | ngirard | zak_: yes |
| 15:28.21 | ngirard | zak_: host name = 192.168.1.3 |
| 15:28.28 | zak_ | done |
| 15:28.53 | zak_ | user name /password?(shall i chooose any ...) |
| 15:29.08 | ngirard | zak_: well, this you should know :) |
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| 15:29.31 | ngirard | zak_: but it's good sign. Things are going well |
| 15:29.36 | concernedcitizen | is anyone having problem with their kopete? |
| 15:29.42 | concernedcitizen | can't seem to logon now |
| 15:29.54 | zak_ | done |
| 15:30.33 | ngirard | zak_: well, that's all, you should be ready to perform your transfer |
| 15:30.38 | ngirard | zak_: is it ok ? |
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| 15:31.05 | zak_ | welkl i have to disconnect from the internet to use the ethernet cable ? |
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| 15:31.21 | zak_ | can i plug the cable in the routeur switcher? |
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| 15:31.47 | ngirard | zak_: ? |
| 15:32.06 | zak_ | what is the net step? |
| 15:32.11 | zak_ | next |
| 15:33.18 | ngirard | zak_: i don't understand. where did you type all these infos (ip address, userame, pw) ? |
| 15:33.29 | ngirard | zak_: on linux or on xp ? |
| 15:33.45 | zak_ | on the win machine |
| 15:33.53 | zak_ | xp machine ,the lappy |
| 15:34.24 | wstephenson | doesn't understand why zak_ doesn't set up a windows share on the xp machine, find it in smb:/ in the linux machine and drag and drop a large zip. |
| 15:34.29 | ngirard | zak_: then you're *done* ! winscp should show you the contents of the remote, ie the linux machine, right ? |
| 15:34.50 | zak_ | disconnected |
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| 15:35.03 | zak_ | no support of authentification is available |
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| 15:35.23 | zak_ | ok |
| 15:35.26 | zak_ | listen please |
| 15:35.29 | trops | how do I do to lock my screen with command line? |
| 15:35.49 | trops | using kde4.1 |
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| 15:36.11 | ngirard | zak_: but after you asked "user name /password" you wrote "done", so it used to work once , right ? |
| 15:36.44 | zak_ | can i plug the laptop to the routeur switcher, using ethernet cable |
| 15:36.47 | zak_ | ? |
| 15:36.53 | wstephenson | zak_: yes |
| 15:37.01 | zak_ | ok lemme do it |
| 15:37.07 | ngirard | wstephenson: could you please take care of zak_ because i'm running late ? |
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| 15:37.22 | wstephenson | ngirard: i'll try, i'm busy too |
| 15:37.40 | zak_ | done |
| 15:37.51 | ngirard | wstephenson: thanks ; wstephenson , zak_ good luck guys... seeya |
| 15:38.10 | zak_ | thank u very much |
| 15:38.32 | zak_ | wstephenson: i have plugged the lappy to the routeur |
| 15:38.41 | zak_ | wstephenson: now lemme explain |
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| 15:39.08 | zak_ | on my pc , i have a dual boot , suse and windows , then i have 2 ntfs partitons on my pc |
| 15:39.33 | zak_ | what i want to do is to transfer all the folders in those partitions to the lappy running on windows xp only:) |
| 15:39.42 | wstephenson | i suspect ngirard could have helped you privately better en francais |
| 15:39.49 | zak_ | :) |
| 15:39.50 | wstephenson | anyway |
| 15:40.11 | wstephenson | zak_: ok. i understand what you want to do. |
| 15:40.16 | zak_ | good :) |
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| 15:40.36 | wstephenson | zak_: the PC is connected to the router as well? and booted into linux? |
| 15:40.47 | trops | Is possible lock my screen without qdbus? |
| 15:40.47 | zak_ | yes |
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| 15:41.21 | wstephenson | zak_: and the ntfs partitions are visible in the windows install on the PC? |
| 15:41.33 | zak_ | yes i can see them they are mounted ) |
| 15:41.36 | zak_ | C and D |
| 15:42.00 | wstephenson | zak_: so why not boot the PC into windows and copy the files there? |
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| 15:42.11 | zak_ | wanando that on linux |
| 15:42.21 | wstephenson | ok |
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| 15:42.27 | wstephenson | learning experience time |
| 15:42.33 | ht`solo | it you remove the windows panel on your taskbar, how to get it back? |
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| 15:42.55 | wstephenson | zak_: you have winscp installed on the laptop? |
| 15:43.02 | zak_ | wstephenson: yes |
| 15:43.33 | wstephenson | ht`solo: do you mean the task list on the panel? |
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| 15:43.40 | ht`solo | wstephenson: yes |
| 15:43.41 | wstephenson | zak_: ok, lets make sure both machines are on the network |
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| 15:43.56 | wstephenson | ht`solo: right click the panel, add widgets... |
| 15:43.58 | zak_ | wstephenson: ready for instructions:) |
| 15:44.48 | wstephenson | zak_: in linux: in a shell, do "/sbin/ifconfig" - what is the inet addr now? |
| 15:45.09 | ht`solo | wstephenson: and? I dont see anything that puts this back... |
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| 15:45.25 | wstephenson | ht`solo: type "task" in the search line in the list of widgets |
| 15:45.42 | wstephenson | ht`solo: you should get "Task Manager" as the only hit. |
| 15:45.44 | zak_ | 192.168.1.3 |
| 15:46.04 | ht`solo | oh wow, the kde4 interface is a train wreck. |
| 15:46.29 | wstephenson | zak_: ok. find out the ip address on the windows box. use the GUI or ipconfig from the command line |
| 15:47.33 | zak_ | 192.168.1.4 |
| 15:47.42 | wstephenson | zak_: good |
| 15:47.59 | wstephenson | now "ping 192.168.1.3", on the windows box |
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| 15:48.35 | zak_ | and? |
| 15:48.43 | wstephenson | zak_: does it get a reply? |
| 15:48.57 | zak_ | paquage sent and reieved = 4 |
| 15:49.02 | wstephenson | cool |
| 15:49.12 | wstephenson | now. let's use winscp again |
| 15:49.52 | wstephenson | zak_: same as before. enter 192.168.1.3 as the computer to connect to with winscp |
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| 15:50.06 | wstephenson | you will have to use your initiative here as it is years since i have used winscp |
| 15:50.19 | zak_ | using the port 22? |
| 15:50.24 | wstephenson | zak_: yes |
| 15:50.33 | zak_ | i shall open it on my suse kos i closed it |
| 15:50.42 | wstephenson | zak_: that was my next question |
| 15:50.45 | wstephenson | use yast |
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| 15:53.15 | zak_ | and i have to open the port in my routeur menu ? |
| 15:53.17 | zak_ | right |
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| 15:54.59 | wstephenson | zak_: no, the router only cares about traffic to the internet (in an normal world) |
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| 15:55.19 | zak_ | aha |
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| 15:55.34 | zak_ | in suse firewall shall iwrite 22 or just ssh |
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| 15:56.00 | zak_ | cos i have some ports open .... ftp ssh |
| 15:56.03 | zak_ | is that fine ? |
| 15:56.11 | wstephenson | zak_: you can open it by service name "ssh" |
| 15:56.17 | wstephenson | should be fine |
| 15:56.31 | zak_ | tcp only?or tcp +udp? |
| 15:56.37 | wstephenson | zak_: you can test it on the windows box, if it has telnet instaleld |
| 15:56.44 | wstephenson | zak_: tcp only is enough |
| 15:56.49 | zak_ | ok done |
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| 15:56.59 | zak_ | so what is the next step :) |
| 15:57.06 | wstephenson | zak_: check in cmd.exe if your windows has "telnet" |
| 15:57.08 | Zenithar | hello |
| 15:57.47 | zak_ | shall i write cmd.exe ? |
| 15:58.21 | wstephenson | zak_: just in any windows command line you have already |
| 15:58.34 | zak_ | cmd.exe give the version of windows version :/ |
| 15:58.57 | wstephenson | i just said "cmd.exe" so you knew to type "telnet" at the command line and not from the Start Menu |
| 15:59.07 | wstephenson | Zenithar: what's your problem? |
| 15:59.13 | zak_ | but when i write telnet :) i t move s to another menu |
| 15:59.14 | zak_ | :) |
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| 15:59.22 | Zenithar | non pb just say hello ^^ |
| 15:59.23 | wstephenson | Zenithar: err "what's the problem"? |
| 15:59.25 | zak_ | microsoft Telnet |
| 15:59.27 | wstephenson | hi :) |
| 15:59.30 | zak_ | ok next |
| 15:59.53 | wstephenson | zak_: open 192.168.1.3 22 |
| 16:00.34 | zak_ | ssh-2.0Openssh5.0 |
| 16:00.38 | zak_ | is that ok ? |
| 16:00.42 | wstephenson | zak_: perfect |
| 16:00.44 | wstephenson | close telnet |
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| 16:00.59 | zak_ | ok |
| 16:01.01 | wstephenson | zak_: that just proves that your firewall is now open on 22 |
| 16:01.06 | zak_ | ok:) |
| 16:01.21 | wstephenson | zak_: now you should be able to connect to your linux box from your winscp using your normal linux login password |
| 16:02.12 | zak_ | diconnected /no supported authentification methods availbale |
| 16:02.36 | zak_ | shall i use sftp ?or ftp ?or scp ? |
| 16:02.43 | wstephenson | zak_: sftp |
| 16:03.03 | zak_ | wstephenson: i have a pubkey installed on my linux machine , that could be the reason ,? |
| 16:03.23 | wstephenson | zak_: it depends how you configured your ssh on linux |
| 16:03.34 | wstephenson | zak_: the normal setup also allows password auth |
| 16:03.36 | zak_ | what do u mean ? |
| 16:03.51 | wstephenson | zak_: login using password and username |
| 16:04.09 | wstephenson | zak_: it is possible you have configured it to not allow that and only accept username+pubkey |
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| 16:04.23 | zak_ | no i know that he msut have my pub key to be able to connectto my pc |
| 16:04.23 | wstephenson | you should know the answer to that. |
| 16:04.38 | zak_ | well it s the second alternative :/ |
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| 16:04.44 | wstephenson | zak_: ok so copy your pubkey to the windows pc with a usb stick |
| 16:05.07 | wstephenson | zak_: or reconfigure your ssh |
| 16:05.23 | zak_ | ok lemme see where can i find this key |
| 16:05.54 | zak_ | do u know where i can find it ? |
| 16:06.14 | wstephenson | zak_: ~/.ssh/*.pub |
| 16:06.44 | wstephenson | zak_: this assumes that winscp supports pubkey authentication... |
| 16:07.31 | zak_ | seems that he accepts this but need a file .ppk |
| 16:07.46 | zak_ | bu cant find any on linux pc |
| 16:08.46 | zak_ | seems that i cant do that :/ |
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| 16:09.36 | zak_ | or maybe can i disable key for a while :) |
| 16:09.38 | zak_ | can i do that |
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| 16:09.44 | wstephenson | zak_: read the last sentence of http://winscp.net/eng/docs/public_key |
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| 16:10.24 | zak_ | omg:/ |
| 16:10.48 | wstephenson | zak_: convert or enable password auth, it's up to you |
| 16:11.03 | zak_ | how to enable password authen? |
| 16:11.25 | zak_ | ok lemme delete the key COMPLETELEY |
| 16:11.39 | zak_ | i can have another one shortly afterward |
| 16:12.05 | wstephenson | zak_: no |
| 16:12.16 | zak_ | ? |
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| 16:12.21 | wstephenson | zak_: openssh on linux doesn't understand .ppk keys |
| 16:12.33 | zak_ | aha :/ |
| 16:12.34 | wstephenson | the key is not the problem |
| 16:12.37 | zak_ | so what shall i do ? |
| 16:12.42 | zak_ | ah ok :) |
| 16:12.48 | wstephenson | either convert the key to .ppk as documented |
| 16:13.03 | wstephenson | or enable ChallengeResponseAuthentication in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 16:13.40 | Barafu | Please, give me advise on konqueror. I have downloaded a file, and I know it to be PDF. but konqueror shows it to be Plaint Text and wants to open it in Kate. I run into this thing often - and it annoys. How to fix a file? |
| 16:13.49 | zak_ | i choose the second alternative |
| 16:14.10 | zak_ | but need to reconfigure it back after i finish with this staff?is it possible ? |
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| 16:14.37 | gkiagia | Barafu: that's a server-side problem. the server should tell konqueror that this is a pdf |
| 16:14.43 | wstephenson | zak_: ChallengeResponseAuthentication=yes or ChallengeResponseAuthentication=no |
| 16:15.13 | zak_ | in ssh .conf?in /etc? |
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| 16:16.20 | Barafu | No, I am saying about local file. I aleready have it. How to make it become PDF now? |
| 16:16.27 | wstephenson | zak_: probably in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 16:16.43 | wstephenson | Barafu: what does "file name-of-local.pdf" say? |
| 16:19.13 | Barafu | wstephenson: Covert Java.pdf: data |
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| 16:19.53 | Barafu | Apps open it if pointed directly. Only doubleclick is a problem |
| 16:19.54 | wstephenson | zak_: i don't know which file you changed to disable password auth .. check both |
| 16:20.07 | wstephenson | Barafu: it's corrupted then |
| 16:20.16 | wstephenson | if file can't ID it as pdf then neither can KDE |
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| 16:21.50 | zak_ | damn !/ |
| 16:22.10 | zak_ | wstephenson: is it easy to do it on windows? |
| 16:22.13 | zak_ | how to ? |
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| 16:22.37 | wstephenson | zak_: have you checked both ~/.ssh/config and /etc/ssh/sshd_config? |
| 16:22.57 | Barafu | Grrrr.... |
| 16:23.06 | wstephenson | throws Barafu a bone |
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| 16:23.30 | zak_ | can't open sshd.config |
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| 16:23.54 | wstephenson | zak_: because it's only readable by root |
| 16:24.52 | zak_ | wstephenson: PubkeyAuthentication yes |
| 16:24.57 | zak_ | is it what i must change ? |
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| 16:25.12 | wstephenson | zak_: no. [18:14] <wstephenson> zak_: ChallengeResponseAuthentication=yes |
| 16:25.23 | ilembitov | What can I use as a frontend for networkmanager under KDE 4.1 in Arch? |
| 16:26.13 | wstephenson | ilembitov: the program i would be writing if i wasn't teaching basic file transfer techniques |
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| 16:26.28 | wstephenson | ilembitov: knetworkmanager from kde 3 otherwise |
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| 16:27.26 | zak_ | wstephenson: ChallengeResponseAuthentication no |
| 16:27.37 | zak_ | i must chnage this to yes |
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| 16:27.43 | wstephenson | suddenly realised that on distributions where kde3 and kde4 are not coinstallable, that answer must be really annoying - been living in an openSUSE bubble too long :) |
| 16:27.46 | wstephenson | zak_: that's correct |
| 16:28.36 | zak_ | and i shall restart ssh ? |
| 16:28.50 | wstephenson | zak_: rcsshd relaod |
| 16:28.54 | wstephenson | err rcsshd reload |
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| 16:29.24 | zak_ | good now my laptop asks for password |
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| 16:29.32 | zak_ | it s my linux password , right? |
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| 16:30.11 | zak_ | wstephenson: ok:) now ia m connected :) |
| 16:30.18 | zak_ | thank you very much man :) |
| 16:30.33 | zak_ | you have been very helpful thank you very much :) |
| 16:31.04 | wstephenson | zak_: i only ask you to try and remember what you have learned so you can help new guy +1 |
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| 16:36.59 | zak_ | wstephenson: promise i have learned ne things today , and i am able to help a new guy and will be as patient as you pal :) |
| 16:37.05 | zak_ | that's linux :) |
| 16:37.38 | zak_ | that s why i did not want to do it on windows :) wanna learn how to do it on linux :) though i have a lot wiki pages to read :) |
| 16:37.40 | wstephenson | zak_: yeah, it's cool |
| 16:37.44 | zak_ | thank you very much again pal :) |
| 16:37.47 | wstephenson | yw |
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| 16:46.45 | Kenjiro | guys, does anyone here have dbus-qt4 (or something like that)? |
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| 16:48.31 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: do you mean the library for using dbus with qt4? it's part of all recent qt4 |
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| 16:58.52 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: interesting |
| 16:58.52 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: i think I am talking about that, yes. Because on my distro there is a dbus-qt3 |
| 16:58.57 | Kenjiro | (I guess it is for use with qt3 and kde-3.5.x) |
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| 16:59.16 | holycow | hey guys |
| 16:59.26 | holycow | is it possible to change dolphins single click to double click? |
| 16:59.28 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: that's normal. there was no native dbus support in qt3, so a bindings library was written. in qt4 it's official. |
| 16:59.36 | holycow | single click is bloody annoying |
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| 17:00.06 | wstephenson | holycow: system settings -> mouse |
| 17:00.17 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: I am asking that because of a "bug" which was reported on bugs.kde.org and I could reproduce here |
| 17:00.31 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: which is? |
| 17:00.37 | Kenjiro | last night someone here said it could be related to dbus |
| 17:00.47 | Kenjiro | so I thought about asking that ;) |
| 17:00.57 | holycow | wstephenson: aha! |
| 17:00.58 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: hold on, will check the bug number |
| 17:01.02 | holycow | oh right i'm in kde |
| 17:01.06 | holycow | of course this is a system setting |
| 17:01.07 | holycow | :) |
| 17:01.09 | holycow | danke! |
| 17:01.17 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: if you have kde4 installed, you have the dbus library (unless your install is broken) |
| 17:01.25 | wstephenson | holycow: we renamed it Personal Settings in opensuse... |
| 17:01.39 | wstephenson | blames kubuntu for the name :) |
| 17:02.24 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165268 |
| 17:02.36 | holycow | lol |
| 17:02.42 | holycow | system settings is fine |
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| 17:04.28 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: worksforme, but kdesu is a big can of worms |
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| 17:05.02 | juanra | hi |
| 17:05.03 | wstephenson | it's a known issue and the distributions will deal with it |
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| 17:08.07 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: what's known? The 'kdesu dolphin' problem? |
| 17:09.38 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: that kdesu sucks since it was changed from using su to sudo |
| 17:09.56 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: oh hell! |
| 17:10.33 | wstephenson | that's why it suddenly works after the user did a successful sudo from the command line |
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| 17:12.19 | Kenjiro | on my distro it works if I do a "xhost +localhost" before issuing "kdesu dolphin" |
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| 17:14.16 | juanra | where can i find a description on why kde dialogs have apply, cancel, ok buttons?? please |
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| 17:18.29 | wstephenson | juanra: http://api.kde.org/4.x-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdeui/html/classKDialog.html might be interesting to you |
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| 17:20.37 | epoxy | and kdat users here? |
| 17:20.43 | epoxy | s/and/any |
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| 17:21.33 | juanra | thanks wstephenson |
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| 17:22.51 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: let me see if I got it right. The way kdesu works was changed... and the distros should adapt so kdesu will work correctly? |
| 17:24.10 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: i am not 100% sure of the way it happened but the distros broke it by changing it to sudo instead of the 'su' command and in doing so broke it in several ways |
| 17:24.17 | wstephenson | however, not my area of competence |
| 17:25.22 | Kenjiro | wstephenson: the distros broke it? well i am sure my distro didn't do that ;) |
| 17:25.33 | jakobsack | hello, someone here running amarok 2.0 svn? |
| 17:25.50 | Kenjiro | we usually don't mess around with other software/apps source code |
| 17:26.21 | Kenjiro | (I run Bluewhite64 and slackware, the first being a "child" of the second) |
| 17:26.36 | wstephenson | Kenjiro: as i say, i'm too unsure of the details to risk slandering someone. |
| 17:27.26 | Kenjiro | ehehee ok |
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| 17:34.15 | Half-Left | jakobsack: Yep |
| 17:35.20 | holycow | i'm starting to like the fact all kde apps store their . files in .kde4 |
| 17:35.21 | holycow | very nice |
| 17:35.29 | jakobsack | Half-Left: could you please test if bug 167238 has been fixed? |
| 17:35.51 | holycow | that means if i can get our users eventually to only use kde apps we can slim down the enormous amount of . files in their home direfctories |
| 17:35.55 | jakobsack | Half-Left: you just need mp3 files with a set CD tag |
| 17:36.11 | Half-Left | Ask in amarok |
| 17:36.16 | Half-Left | #amarok |
| 17:36.35 | jakobsack | ok |
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| 17:46.23 | kdepepo | does someone here use Kubuntu with KDE 4.1 packages and could help me verifying some paths for KDE 4 stuff? |
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| 17:46.45 | pinotree | kdepepo: #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 17:47.10 | Half-Left | kdepepo: Should be in /usr/lib/kde4 |
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| 17:48.36 | kdepepo | Half-Left, yeah, for libraries, but probably debians /usr/share/kde4/apps differs? |
| 17:49.43 | Half-Left | Not sure about that but everything should be in /usr/lib/kde4 |
| 17:49.51 | eNTi | hi. is there a way to extract more than one (zip) file in dolphin? it used to work very well in konqueror, just marked all the files and choose -> extract here. if i do this in dolphin, it will only extract the first file, which is weird. |
| 17:50.30 | Half-Left | en~ |
| 17:50.35 | scroogie | probably a regression in ark? |
| 17:50.54 | Half-Left | eNTi: Fixed in 4.1.1 I noticed |
| 17:51.10 | eNTi | really? i'm running 4.1.1 |
| 17:51.41 | Half-Left | Well I can extract all files now so |
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| 17:52.16 | eNTi | hmm... maybe the script wasn't updated in my distro... |
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| 17:52.21 | eNTi | i'll check that |
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| 17:54.00 | Half-Left | I mean from Ark |
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| 17:56.08 | eNTi | hmm... i've installed kdemod here and i had to install kdemod-extragear/kdemod-extragear-extractandcompress to get the menu entry in dolphin. not sure if that's the same |
| 17:56.33 | eNTi | how can you open more than one compressed fiel with ark? |
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| 17:57.51 | Half-Left | Looks like only one at a time |
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| 18:04.24 | n3kl | Hi. I have created a ldap addressbook and when I import a vcf from a file, It does not upload the contact to the ldap. Why? |
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| 18:15.05 | whabo | hello how come my screen refresh is slow. i mean when i move windows fast i see their traces and it takes like a second to clear out? Help anyone? it is like when i move windows over i still see their traces. however it doesnt happen when compiz is on |
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| 18:18.11 | datacrusher | hi fellas |
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| 18:19.15 | datacrusher | i need to make a kiosk, and the kiosktool its kinda buggy. I just need the cpter to auto login, and get locked with a browser. The user can only access 2 specific webpages, and when the cpter its availabhe a screensaver would run, with pictures on my samba server |
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| 18:22.59 | hoonteke | how do I tell the configure script or cmakekde function to look elsewhere for inclusions for a single package? |
| 18:23.06 | hoonteke | when building kde, that is |
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| 18:25.16 | gkiagia | hoonteke: can you give us more info? what do you want to do? |
| 18:25.20 | tremby | i just rebooted to find that kdm is using the qwerty keymap, which i can't type. i don't even have a qwerty keyboard lying around. how can i change the kdm keymap? |
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| 18:25.52 | gkiagia | tremby: that's configured from xorg.conf |
| 18:26.06 | tremby | gkiagia: my xorg.conf shows dvorak. |
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| 18:26.16 | gkiagia | strange |
| 18:26.25 | tremby | gkiagia: in text mode the layout is dvorak, too, hence me able to type now (using finch) |
| 18:26.29 | hoonteke | gkiagia: I'm trying to build kdelibs right now, and it keeps bailing on strigi. I finally actually read the error message and it's looking for the wrong strigi version, not the one I compiled and installed with kdesupport, now again just an hour ago. It's looking for my system's copy of same, so I think there's a mismatch. |
| 18:26.58 | hoonteke | I just don't know the cmake system, so I don't know how to tell it to find strigi "here" |
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| 18:28.01 | Digit4l | hello |
| 18:28.04 | Digit4l | my kde in ubuntu |
| 18:28.12 | Digit4l | completely desinstalled itself |
| 18:28.12 | Digit4l | xD |
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| 18:28.29 | gkiagia | hoonteke: try "make edit_cache" in the build directory and edit the path to the strigi includes |
| 18:28.44 | hoonteke | alright, how do I make it stop after the configure stage, then? |
| 18:28.59 | hoonteke | do you mean "c" in "cmake edit_cache"? |
| 18:29.01 | Digit4l | *unistalled |
| 18:29.03 | gkiagia | tremby: I still think this is an xorg issue. did you upgrade xorg or something? |
| 18:29.05 | Digit4l | and now it says |
| 18:29.16 | gkiagia | hoonteke: no, make |
| 18:29.19 | Digit4l | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 18:29.19 | Half-Left | hoonteke: Why dont you just remove strigi from your distro and then use the one from latest version? |
| 18:29.19 | Digit4l | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.19 | Digit4l | E: Broken packages |
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| 18:29.50 | gkiagia | Digit4l: #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 18:30.40 | gkiagia | hoonteke: correct, you can also remove the strigi packages from your system (this is easier) |
| 18:30.52 | hoonteke | Half-Left: I'm trying it now |
| 18:31.03 | tremby | gkiagia: i don't think so. my xorg.conf hasn't changed, and it's always been fine before now. |
| 18:31.21 | hoonteke | but I'm skeptical, because it's still not looking in the right place, namely in my build-user's home directory. |
| 18:31.26 | tremby | brb, i managed to blind hunt and peck my password |
| 18:31.49 | hoonteke | Digit4l: yeah, try asking there, they may be more helpful, as this sounds like a distro problem. |
| 18:31.54 | gkiagia | hoonteke: remove CMakeCache.txt if it still looks in the wrong place |
| 18:32.17 | hoonteke | gkiagia: ah, okay, well we'll see what happens in about 5 minutes when it gets to the breaking point. |
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| 18:32.46 | Digit4l | ok thanks |
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| 18:32.55 | tremby | gkiagia: yeah, now that i'm logged in the keymap is how it should be |
| 18:33.02 | tremby | it's just kdm which is stubborn |
| 18:33.16 | tremby | (why isn't there a layout chooser in kdm anyway? seems bizarre) |
| 18:33.23 | gkiagia | tremby: afaik kdm has nothing to do with keymaps |
| 18:33.35 | gkiagia | tremby: afaik it always uses the default from xorg |
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| 18:34.38 | sbattey | tremby: change your keymap in your xorg.conf |
| 18:34.56 | tremby | sbattey: as i said before, the keymap in my xorg.conf is dvorak. always has been. |
| 18:35.14 | tremby | that's the only keyboard device in there |
| 18:35.41 | kriko | Is compositing detection fixed yet in 4.1.x? |
| 18:35.50 | sbattey | kriko: define? |
| 18:36.16 | kriko | sbattey: kwin fails to enable effects when using OpenGL |
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| 18:36.53 | sbattey | kriko sounds like a driver issue? |
| 18:37.14 | gkiagia | no, it's the new detection that kwin does |
| 18:37.35 | gkiagia | kriko: do you have reported that to the kwin maintainer? |
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| 18:39.36 | gkiagia | sbattey: fyi, http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3652 |
| 18:40.36 | gkiagia | kriko: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170085 |
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| 18:41.53 | gkiagia | konqueror seems to leak.... |
| 18:42.03 | kriko | gkiagia: I reported via novell bugzilla like others |
| 18:42.57 | gkiagia | well, novell bugzilla is not the correct place to report it if it is an upstream bug |
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| 18:43.25 | gkiagia | but, well, I don't know where the bug is |
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| 18:44.50 | kriko | lubos lunak is also on novell bugzilla |
| 18:45.56 | sbattey | kriko: bugs.kde.org |
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| 19:21.58 | Murray_B | Hi! |
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| 19:31.46 | squid0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.29 | gkiagia | squid0: so, you have installed libdvdcss? |
| 19:32.39 | squid0 | gkiagia: yes |
| 19:32.51 | squid0 | the vast majority of dvds I play work fine |
| 19:33.12 | gkiagia | squid0: maybe the xine packages of your distro have a restriction on using libdvdcss |
| 19:33.27 | squid0 | gkiagia: hm, maybe. ubuntu? |
| 19:33.28 | gkiagia | many distros cut off features from multimedia packages |
| 19:33.35 | squid0 | oh |
| 19:34.03 | squid0 | do you know of such a thing in ubuntu, gkiagia |
| 19:34.04 | squid0 | ? |
| 19:34.19 | gkiagia | I know it in debian, so it most probably also applies to ubuntu too |
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| 19:34.35 | squid0 | gkiagia: ok. how can I work around that? |
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| 19:35.50 | gkiagia | hm, it's not easy, try mplayer maybe |
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| 19:36.14 | gkiagia | or search if you can find 3d-party xine packages for ubuntu |
| 19:36.43 | gkiagia | and/or try packages from debian-multimedia.org (although I do not guarantee this will work) |
| 19:37.10 | Murray_B | Hm, I remember there was a site called mediabuntu... |
| 19:37.46 | hyper_ch | medibuntu and it's for ubuntu |
| 19:37.46 | gkiagia | squid0: just do a google search... I bet there are millions of users with your problem ;) |
| 19:38.11 | squid0 | thanks, guys; I'll try that meanwhile :) |
| 19:38.20 | Murray_B | hyper_ch: Yes, but squid0 talked about ubuntu, didn't he? |
| 19:38.35 | hyper_ch | Murray_B: dunno, didn't follow it all |
| 19:38.37 | Murray_B | squid0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu |
| 19:38.47 | hyper_ch | www.medibuntu.org |
| 19:39.03 | hyper_ch | skype, googleearth, w32/62codecs, libdvdcss2 |
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| 19:40.18 | hoonteke | gkiagia: didn't work. I'm trying now with the make edit_cache trick |
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| 19:40.42 | gkiagia | hoonteke: did you try removing CMakeCache.txt ? |
| 19:41.02 | hoonteke | well, I removed teh build directory entirely |
| 19:41.04 | hoonteke | does that ocunt? |
| 19:41.12 | gkiagia | ok, yes |
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| 19:41.34 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
| 19:41.57 | Rapp | where can i make settings (e.g. Qt theme used) in kde 4.1, if not in kcontrol? |
| 19:42.02 | hoonteke | man, there sure are a lot of warnings |
| 19:42.43 | gkiagia | Rapp: you are running kde 4.1 and you want to change qt theme for qt4 ? |
| 19:43.27 | Rapp | gkiagia, i want to change the qt 4 theme, since kde 4.1 runs with qt4. however, i already found it: systemsettings |
| 19:43.36 | gkiagia | :) |
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| 19:47.56 | hoonteke | gkiagia: well, we're passed the 46% now. that make edit_cache seems to have been the trick. |
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| 20:13.05 | slacker_nl | hello, am i missing something, why can't i place applets on a panel (i can add them, but not place them)... |
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| 20:14.51 | gkiagia | slacker_nl: you mean move them? |
| 20:15.00 | ceee | hi, where can i install phonon backends? im running kde-nightly on kubuntu |
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| 20:15.10 | gkiagia | slacker_nl: open panel's settings and then you can move widgets around |
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| 20:15.50 | gkiagia | ceee: ask the kubuntu guys -> #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 20:16.45 | ceee | ok |
| 20:16.46 | slacker_nl | gkiagia: i could move the bookmark applet, but the clock applet doesn't have the move option |
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| 20:17.06 | slacker_nl | frustrating, i accidently hit remove all applets.. |
| 20:17.32 | makomk | Hi. I'm having an odd problem with Kopete svn trunk. Every time I open a Jabber chat, it fails to find jabberchatui.rc and aborts. The file exists in /home/aidan/kde4/share/apps/kopete_jabber/jabberchatui.rc, but I think it might be looking in kopete/jabberchatui.rc instead... |
| 20:17.34 | junkDawgie | i'm glad i'm not the only one that does stuff like that... :) |
| 20:18.04 | wstephenson | hmm |
| 20:18.27 | wstephenson | makomk: you're right |
| 20:18.36 | wstephenson | makomk: can you mail kopete-devel@kde.org about this? |
| 20:18.43 | slacker_nl | is the panel config stored in a file? |
| 20:18.50 | gkiagia | hm, why kopete works for me then? |
| 20:18.54 | slacker_nl | I could copy it from another box... |
| 20:19.14 | gkiagia | slacker_nl: ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc |
| 20:19.23 | slacker_nl | gkiagia: kde3 :) |
| 20:19.32 | gkiagia | kde3? panel? |
| 20:19.37 | gkiagia | oh, wait |
| 20:19.46 | gkiagia | that's kicker then |
| 20:19.53 | slacker_nl | no.. |
| 20:19.54 | slacker_nl | panel |
| 20:20.05 | gkiagia | confused |
| 20:20.43 | makomk | wstephenson: sure, hang on. |
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| 20:20.55 | slacker_nl | gkiagia: http://www.euronet.nl/users/wesleys/dig/_desktop7.png |
| 20:21.07 | slacker_nl | where you see the kmenu icon ;) |
| 20:21.20 | slacker_nl | that's called a panel in kde3 |
| 20:21.24 | wstephenson | makomk: i'm off to bed actually. just describe the problem so we can figure out what's going o |
| 20:21.27 | wstephenson | +n |
| 20:21.40 | gkiagia | slacker_nl: yeah, this is kicker ;) |
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| 20:22.02 | gkiagia | slacker_nl: but I can't help you, I am a kde4 user for a long time now |
| 20:22.09 | slacker_nl | dammit |
| 20:22.16 | slacker_nl | well, i could use kde4 |
| 20:22.33 | slacker_nl | but for now i want my panel setup back |
| 20:22.39 | slacker_nl | :(( |
| 20:23.31 | gkiagia | slacker_nl: to find the config, look for kicker in ~/.kde/share/apps and ~/.kde/share/config |
| 20:23.43 | bgmiki | is listening to Karantin by Voodoo Popeye on Voodoo Epopeye [Amarok2] |
| 20:24.02 | slacker_nl | gkiagia: k, i will copy those files from another box |
| 20:24.07 | slacker_nl | and see what happens |
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| 20:27.02 | gkiagia | in the kate session applet.. what is the kate icon on top left corner supposed to do? |
| 20:27.15 | gkiagia | I clicked it and the widget became black |
| 20:27.22 | makomk | Wonderful. Konqueror segfaulted when I tried to type my mail. |
| 20:27.55 | slacker_nl | no luck.. |
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| 20:35.12 | luke-jr | makomk: KMail will at least save composer windows if it crashes :þ |
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| 20:36.24 | gkiagia | yeah, kmail has saved me two times with this feature |
| 20:36.27 | junkDawgie | one window.... last will and testament maybe? seems like the last email should be important |
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| 20:39.39 | FunctorSalad | hmm... with kmail, is there some filter to move everything that matches some pattern into a subfolder whose name is equal to the (captured part of) the pattern? |
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| 20:41.51 | FunctorSalad | (well, there's "execute command"...) |
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| 20:51.54 | mrxmike | is it possible to make an application move to the system tray.. (left of the taskbar clock) instead of the taskbar? |
| 20:52.07 | thiago_home | no |
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| 20:52.12 | mrxmike | you sure? |
| 20:52.13 | thiago_home | system tray and task bar are not the same thing |
| 20:52.26 | mrxmike | what about 'kstart -iconify'? |
| 20:52.55 | thiago_home | iconify = taskbar, not system tray |
| 20:53.03 | mrxmike | k |
| 20:53.10 | mrxmike | bit of a bummer :( |
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| 21:03.24 | FunctorSalad_ | mrxmike: "ksystraycmd (1) - Allows any application to be kept in the system tray" |
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| 21:04.07 | FunctorSalad_ | if it doesn't defeat the taskbar entry you can do that in the special window settings |
| 21:05.14 | mrxmike | lol, i used 'ksystraycmd' (im on 4.1.1 btw) but it stays in the taskbar |
| 21:05.21 | mrxmike | so it might be a kde3 app? |
| 21:08.22 | mrxmike | i accidently cleared my irc screen :o |
| 21:08.46 | mrxmike | f>????? who told me how to fix it..? |
| 21:08.55 | FunctorSalad_ | yes, I think ksystraycmd is for kde 3 |
| 21:09.06 | mrxmike | it works, the special windows setting |
| 21:09.15 | mrxmike | but you cannot close it easily now.... not a biggy....... |
| 21:09.26 | FunctorSalad_ | apropos also told me about "stalonetray (1) - stand-alone system tray" |
| 21:09.32 | FunctorSalad_ | dunno if that would help |
| 21:09.39 | FunctorSalad_ | but funny name |
| 21:09.42 | mrxmike | wow.. lots of options :D |
| 21:09.47 | mrxmike | stalone tray.. yah funny ;D |
| 21:10.04 | mrxmike | lets rename kicker -> in Kickboxer |
| 21:10.15 | mrxmike | give it all funny names :P |
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| 21:10.32 | FunctorSalad_ | and "alias huff=rm -rf" |
| 21:10.37 | FunctorSalad_ | ;) |
| 21:10.44 | FunctorSalad_ | (read too much uncyclopedia) |
| 21:11.21 | mrxmike | oo .. im not a newbie, but i dont know huff :o:o |
| 21:11.25 | junkDawgie | secret commands... this is almost like the freemasons |
| 21:11.39 | FunctorSalad_ | mrxmike: it's just an uncyclopedia meme (e.g. "kitten huffing") |
| 21:11.55 | blameu | can somebody tell me what a file with a name in italic in konqueror means |
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| 21:12.09 | junkDawgie | symlink |
| 21:12.16 | blameu | thanks |
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| 21:14.28 | mrxmike | is it also possible to control 'window states' some how from the commandline? |
| 21:14.41 | mrxmike | i would like to maximize a certain program from it |
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| 21:17.49 | FunctorSalad_ | mrxmike: maybe somewhere in dcop |
| 21:18.04 | FunctorSalad_ | (not sure if dcop's still in kde4) |
| 21:18.18 | mrxmike | FunctorSalad_: its becomming dbus now huh |
| 21:18.28 | mrxmike | but i seen some dcop stuff.. |
| 21:18.29 | FunctorSalad_ | I thought that's something else |
| 21:18.34 | mrxmike | but i dont know how i can control that.. |
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| 21:18.42 | FunctorSalad_ | tried "kdcop"? |
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| 21:20.54 | gkiagia | no kdcop in kde4. use qdbus |
| 21:21.23 | Rellin | If I want to try KDE4.1.1, what distro would you reccomend? |
| 21:22.22 | mrxmike | gkiagia: can i maximize a certain window trough qdbus you think? |
| 21:22.37 | mrxmike | Rellin: Kubuntu for sure! |
| 21:23.04 | mrxmike | i think Opensuse is becomming too fat........ |
| 21:23.27 | Rellin | mrxmike: I used to use Kubuntu but I felt it was shabby and the packages seemed to rarely get updated on time. Now I'm on OpenSUSE and although the packages are set up nice, the management sucks. |
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| 21:23.48 | Rellin | I'm wondering how the package management is in Mandriva and maybe even Gentoo. |
| 21:23.49 | gkiagia | mrxmike: I don't think so, I look at the functions now and there is nothing like that |
| 21:24.04 | bonsaikitten | Rellin: in gentoo it is quite splendid |
| 21:24.14 | mrxmike | gkiagia: thanks for looking |
| 21:24.28 | Sput | Rellin: portage++ |
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| 21:24.49 | Sput | Rellin: seriously, I don't know any better package manager :) |
| 21:25.42 | Rellin | Sput: I like the idea of having the devel packages put in automatically but it seems like I'm going to be spending too much time simply upgrading my installation. |
| 21:26.02 | FunctorSalad_ | Rellin: for me the debian repo is recent enough for most apps, and for the few where I want the newest version I just add their private repo to my sources.list.d |
| 21:26.47 | FunctorSalad_ | (if there is none I just install manually...) |
| 21:27.19 | Rellin | Isn't it true that compiling Amarok2 takes hours? |
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| 21:27.45 | gkiagia | Rellin: depends on the processor |
| 21:28.15 | Sput | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.16 | Sput | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.18 | Sput | no. |
| 21:28.23 | Sput | that is on my laptop. |
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| 21:29.30 | Rellin | I really like OpenSUSE and how easy it is to have the latest KDE4 with the factory repos, but I feel like I'm not as in control of the machine as I should be. |
| 21:29.45 | Sput | Rellin: well, with gentoo you are certainly in control :) |
| 21:29.50 | Rellin | Is installing Gentoo a huge pain in the ass? |
| 21:29.54 | shevy | yes |
| 21:30.00 | luke-jr | no |
| 21:30.01 | Sput | Rellin: depends if you want to learn or not |
| 21:30.03 | Rellin | Honestly if I can't get the networking to work out of the box, I don't think I can do it. |
| 21:30.18 | Sput | oh, that works, assuming you have dhcp. |
| 21:30.30 | luke-jr | Sput: you need a supported NIC too |
| 21:30.38 | shevy | well if you have dhcpcd you just use i.e. 'dhcpcd eth0' and it works, no matter the distribution |
| 21:30.42 | scroogie | gentoo is a _massive_ pain in the ass |
| 21:30.45 | Sput | luke-jr: yes, but are there any nics not supported by linux currently? |
| 21:30.56 | luke-jr | probably |
| 21:31.00 | Sput | scroogie: I could say the same about other distros. |
| 21:31.01 | luke-jr | especially wireless ones |
| 21:31.02 | scroogie | but it rocks on smaller machines |
| 21:31.14 | shevy | if you love compiling you will feel at home at gentoo |
| 21:31.15 | Sput | I had nothing but trouble with binary distros |
| 21:31.15 | scroogie | depends on what you want to do with your machine really |
| 21:31.27 | Sput | if they break, you can't really fix them |
| 21:31.31 | Sput | with gentoo, you can |
| 21:31.37 | scroogie | ahh |
| 21:31.39 | scroogie | thats bs |
| 21:31.42 | shevy | you can recompile on binary distros too |
| 21:31.44 | bonsaikitten | no, experience |
| 21:31.55 | scroogie | i used gentoo for years |
| 21:31.59 | scroogie | so ive got some experience as well |
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| 21:32.05 | Sput | shevy: yeah. ever tried to rebuild a .deb with different config options? |
| 21:32.05 | scroogie | i still use gentoo on one of my smaller machines |
| 21:32.10 | shevy | i dont use debian |
| 21:32.14 | shevy | archlinux is better ;) |
| 21:32.16 | scroogie | but on three others i use binary distros |
| 21:32.20 | bonsaikitten | hmm, I guess we're a bit offtopic here :) |
| 21:32.24 | shevy | true |
| 21:32.32 | Sput | shevy: I'd accept arch as the only serious competition to gentoo :) |
| 21:32.39 | shevy | back to a topic |
| 21:32.41 | shevy | kde is happy on all of these :> |
| 21:32.53 | scroogie | i don't know anything i couldn't fix on binary distros that you can fix on gentoo |
| 21:32.54 | scroogie | but ok |
| 21:32.59 | shevy | Sput, i am not sure... gentoo has an awesome amount of really smart guys |
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| 21:33.29 | wilsonsamm | with konversation, how do I choose which channels to join at start-up? |
| 21:33.52 | scroogie | http://xkcd.com/456/ |
| 21:33.55 | scroogie | (about gentoo) |
| 21:34.44 | gkiagia | wilsonsamm: in the server list, edit the server you want and there is a field to add autojoin channels |
| 21:34.50 | Sput | yeah, a classic. though I can't even remember when I last compiled a kernel. |
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| 21:36.05 | wilsonsamm | gkiagia: in Settings > Configure Konversation? |
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| 21:36.46 | gkiagia | wilsonsamm: file->servers list |
| 21:37.22 | wilsonsamm | oh I see |
| 21:37.24 | wilsonsamm | thanks |
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| 22:28.32 | nite613 | Looking for help with kpowersave. It suspends my machine after mere seconds when I close the lid even though I have it set for no action in the lid button config, and autosuspend after 60 minutes |
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| 22:47.18 | spectral | is kate4 lacking external tools? i found the plugin, but i can't configure the scripts from anywhere |
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| 22:52.03 | drs- | ive installed kde4 on my system... it loads fine when i start it for the first time.. then after i log out and log back in it goes to a black or white screen.. |
| 22:52.15 | drs- | anyone had this problem or can help me with this?\ |
| 22:53.53 | NthDegree | drs-: Graphics Card? |
| 22:53.56 | Half-Left | Can you do Alt, F4 when that happens? |
| 22:54.02 | NthDegree | What model and what drivers? ^.^ |
| 22:54.16 | drs- | its ati radeon 9600 |
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| 22:54.37 | drs- | ive tried all alt and F keys |
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| 22:54.47 | drs- | i have to restart x server |
| 22:54.57 | Half-Left | Desktop effects on? |
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| 22:55.02 | drs- | nope |
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| 22:55.10 | drs- | all i did was change wallpaper |
| 22:55.39 | drs- | oh.. and add a few application icons to desktop |
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| 22:56.55 | drs- | ive searched google and didnt find this problem in any forums :/ |
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| 22:59.44 | drs- | well similar problem ive found but they were using desktop effects.. i am not however |
| 22:59.45 | Half-Left | Does it happen everytime? |
| 23:00.18 | NthDegree | drs-: what drivers? |
| 23:00.22 | Half-Left | And what version of KDE4? |
| 23:00.23 | drs- | pretty much ... if i rename the .kde4 folder it works again |
| 23:00.35 | drs- | then log out and log in again and black screen |
| 23:00.47 | drs- | xorgs driver radeon |
| 23:01.03 | drs- | and kde 4.1 |
| 23:01.15 | Half-Left | Strange |
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| 23:01.37 | drs- | ill say :/ |
| 23:02.00 | NthDegree | drs-: tried flgrx? |
| 23:02.16 | drs- | i do not understand it.. with kde3.5.9 i can even run compiz-fusion... works fine |
| 23:02.41 | NthDegree | drs-: QT 4 has caused bugs to show for some drivers |
| 23:02.41 | drs- | not gonna use it with kde4 though |
| 23:02.54 | Half-Left | Maybe a bug with your distro packages |
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| 23:03.32 | drs- | ya i do not much like the fglrx driver |
| 23:04.12 | NthDegree | why not? I know it's non-free but it's best optimized for your GPU |
| 23:04.27 | drs- | ya ive had lots of problems with it... |
| 23:04.47 | drs- | ive tried it before and it made my desktop resolution very uhmm large |
| 23:04.53 | drs- | i couldnt fix it |
| 23:05.30 | drs- | maybe i should swap the card for nvidia card? |
| 23:06.05 | NthDegree | that's worse |
| 23:06.09 | drs- | lol |
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| 23:06.38 | NthDegree | NVIDIA will likely never have good Free 3D drivers until the cards are outdated |
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| 23:08.26 | drs- | ill mess with the fglrx driver again and see if that will fix the problem |
| 23:08.56 | drs- | anyways... thanks for the help |
| 23:09.04 | drs- | :) |
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| 23:10.56 | jtsigma | which kde app can i use to install a printer? |
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| 23:11.20 | jtsigma | i used to have it in fedora9 kde 4.0 stable but i installed the kde4.1 test and now the printer app is gone |
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| 23:14.51 | Half-Left | That should be a prority and network manager in KDE4.x |
| 23:15.04 | _sagitarius_ | is away: No toy... |
| 23:16.08 | jtsigma | ? |
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| 23:17.41 | jtsigma | kde printer manager? |
| 23:20.29 | gkiagia | jtsigma: there is no printer manager in kde4. this is in the TODO list.... |
| 23:21.22 | gkiagia | in the meantime, use the cups web interface. http://localhost:901 |
| 23:21.55 | gkiagia | oh, wait |
| 23:22.04 | gkiagia | this is the samba interface :/ |
| 23:22.21 | gkiagia | can't remember the cups port now |
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| 23:30.38 | Catoptromancy | Some reason I cannot find a "Display Brightness" option anywhere KDE3.5 |
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| 23:38.37 | fengshaun | any info on kdevelop4's release schedule? |
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| 23:39.04 | paul_thujone | hello, is it somewhat possible to add commands to be matched by krunner (using 4.1)? I tried adding .desktop files here and there but no luck |
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| 23:43.07 | paul_thujone | Is mine such an uncommon need? I couldn't find anything about on the web. |
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| 23:49.59 | meoblast001 | hi |
| 23:50.07 | meoblast001 | im using kdenlive and it crashes..... a lot |
| 23:50.12 | meoblast001 | but i like the software |
| 23:50.22 | meoblast001 | so i need to figure out how to reduce the crashign |
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| 23:54.50 | moe_ | . |
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| 23:56.26 | meoblast001 | are KDE apps specifically designed to crash gnome? |
| 23:56.44 | bonsaikitten | noe, gnome manages that by itself nicely |
| 23:57.21 | meoblast001 | wtf.. new problem |
| 23:57.31 | meoblast001 | my perfectly normal Ubuntu CD wont work on my friends computer |
| 23:57.36 | meoblast001 | Invalid disc |
| 23:57.37 | meoblast001 | ahhh |
| 23:58.33 | moe_ | hmm how do i use a fixed font in konversation? |
| 23:58.45 | moe_ | all those anti-aliasing makes my eyes bleed |
