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| 00:01.39 | _genuser_ | hello poeple. |
| 00:02.18 | StormByte | How can I join to kopete's bugday? |
| 00:02.18 | _genuser_ | can anyone elaborate. Windows / Theme Manager / Style under System settings -> Appearance. What is the difference. they override each other some places |
| 00:04.07 | StormByte | (wrong channel, sorry) |
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| 00:04.19 | test34 | _genuser_, are you complaining because you can change a setting in 2 different spots? |
| 00:05.07 | _genuser_ | test34: no I'm not complaining. I'm asking what each one is responsible for so I have a better picture of where to change what. And what change will be noticeable where. |
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| 00:05.43 | test34 | How can I get KAlarm to work even if the screen is suspended? |
| 00:05.57 | _genuser_ | test34: sometimes they overwrite each other, so I don't always under where to control which setting. Or what to download. Plasmoids, themes, which is where how to install.... |
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| 00:08.42 | kdepepo | _genuser_, Theme Manager is removed in 4.1 |
| 00:09.15 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: ok, so once I upgrade 4.0.5, it will no longer show theme manager? So what are the major things I need to know to modify my UI? |
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| 00:09.45 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: I know Windows will handle wndow decoration and stuff for title bars. |
| 00:09.47 | kdepepo | _genuser_, use the separate settings pages. |
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| 00:10.03 | kdepepo | _genuser_, yeah, Fonts for fonts, Colors for colors,... :) |
| 00:10.13 | kdepepo | _genuser_, I don't understand your problem. |
| 00:10.17 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: ok, what is plasma? I read that it is the rendering engine. But what is superkaramba and plasam separation... |
| 00:10.43 | karsten | I'm uising Kontact. Kmail has stopped opening message parts. Eg: I just see a window with a folder, and contents such as "body part" (text icon), "body part" (HTML icon), "meeting.ics". The contents themselves don't appear either in the preview pane or in a message window if I open the message. |
| 00:10.57 | kdepepo | _genuser_, plasma is a separate application, configure it with right click on desktop. Plasma config is not system wide, only for plasmoids. |
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| 00:11.31 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: aha. That helps! Until now I thought it was the rendering engine for KDE. Now I know much better. thanks. :) |
| 00:11.48 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: so widgets and plasmoids are different? Or are plasmoids just special widgets? |
| 00:12.02 | kdepepo | do you mean widgets as in QWidget ? |
| 00:12.22 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: widgets as in right-click on desktop and select "Add Widget" |
| 00:12.35 | _genuser_ | "Add Widgets...." |
| 00:12.51 | kdepepo | ah... no, plasmoid is same as widget |
| 00:13.09 | kdepepo | plasmoid = widget that runs inside plasma containment :) |
| 00:13.18 | kdepepo | desktop or panel |
| 00:13.42 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: aha, and the plasmoid containment being the cool see-thru frame that appears when you hover over them... :) |
| 00:14.09 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: thanks your really helping me understand the terminology. I don't know why but I was really lost. :) |
| 00:14.23 | _genuser_ | lost on terminology.. LOL. |
| 00:14.27 | kdepepo | hm, the containment is the desktop actually... the frame is just the applet handle. |
| 00:14.40 | kdepepo | pardon, widget handle :) |
| 00:15.01 | _genuser_ | aha, I notice any files saved in ~/Desktop show with widget handles on the desktop. |
| 00:15.16 | kdepepo | yeah, in 4.0 |
| 00:15.37 | kdepepo | in 4.1 you can have several containments on desktop, called folder views |
| 00:15.38 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: kde4 is just shiny and cool. Just what I'd like to run. |
| 00:16.28 | _genuser_ | one other thing, if you don't mind. I am not sure how to change the size of the bottom panel. and how to add more "items" to it. Such as volume control..... |
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| 00:17.25 | kdepepo | just drag the items from "add widgets" list to the panel. resizing is a 4.1 feature, but you can resize panel in 4.0 with openSUSE packages. |
| 00:17.56 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: ok as long as the widgets is installed it can be dragged to the panels as well? that's cool. |
| 00:18.31 | _genuser_ | hehe, must find widgets..... |
| 00:19.07 | kdepepo | maybe in 4.2 it will be possible to drag widgets between desktop and panel... imagine dragging your twitter app from desktop to panel, and back later :) |
| 00:20.09 | _genuser_ | cool. does KDE not have a default volume control applet? |
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| 00:20.27 | kdepepo | kmix systray icon |
| 00:20.46 | kdepepo | start kmix via Alt+F2 |
| 00:21.07 | _genuser_ | yeah I noticed my alt-f2 breaks... have to work out some kinks. |
| 00:21.46 | kdepepo | 4.0 has its rough edges... 4.1 will be released in two weeks |
| 00:22.08 | StormByte | I'm really impressed of how much it improved! |
| 00:22.16 | kdepepo | you can try 4.1 release candidate |
| 00:22.27 | StormByte | I am using svn trunk |
| 00:22.28 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: plus I have compiz-fusion on xfce. Well compiz-fusion takes over and kills kwin also. Then I have to open cli and kill compiz-fusion and run kwin manually to get the KDE look.... |
| 00:22.40 | kdepepo | yeah, those 6 months have been very busy :) |
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| 00:22.57 | kdepepo | compiz ugh |
| 00:23.33 | _genuser_ | well you know I love flashy. That's why I like KDE. even 3.5. But 4 more. |
| 00:24.21 | kdepepo | I never managed to get a compiz working correctly... either the decorations were rendering wrong on maximized windows, or general window management was shabby. |
| 00:24.46 | kdepepo | kwin has nice defaults, snapping to edges etc. |
| 00:25.12 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: yeah went thru straight on howto. But on the laptop it simply didn't work. |
| 00:25.18 | kdepepo | eye candy may be nice to get linux to your friends :) |
| 00:26.04 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: or even for myself. hehe. |
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| 00:26.52 | syllogism | Hey guys. I'm having an odd problem with 3.5 that I was hoping someone could help me with |
| 00:27.05 | syllogism | I have a feeling it has something to do with dcop, but I've never had to deal with it before |
| 00:27.10 | _genuser_ | just liked it with gnome until saw compiz-fusion. then tried xfce, ran xfce with CF, then KDE 3.5, then fluxbox, then englightenment, then wmii, then decided to use KDE4 as main. |
| 00:27.16 | syllogism | I'm running OpenBSD 4.3 on a fresh install |
| 00:27.39 | syllogism | when I run kdcop, it freezes on startup like it is timing out trying to connect |
| 00:28.05 | syllogism | Is there some kind of dcop daemon I need to add to inetd or something? |
| 00:28.23 | kdepepo | I never used kdcop :) |
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| 00:29.49 | kdepepo | dcop is started using startkde script I guess... it is no system wide service like dbus ist. |
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| 00:29.53 | kdepepo | is |
| 00:30.29 | _genuser_ | so kmix will restart on subsequent launch? |
| 00:31.13 | kdepepo | _genuser_, there is an option is config for kmix (show mixer->menu->configure) |
| 00:31.28 | kdepepo | syllogism, try running "dcopserver" |
| 00:31.58 | kdepepo | it should display a warning if it already runs |
| 00:33.48 | syllogism | kdepepo: yes it is running |
| 00:33.54 | syllogism | kdepepo: started by kdeinit |
| 00:33.58 | syllogism | dcopserver --nosid |
| 00:34.44 | kdepepo | what if you type just "dcop" |
| 00:35.08 | kdepepo | it should display list of dcop "clients" |
| 00:35.10 | syllogism | kdepepo: it lists some clients |
| 00:35.23 | kdepepo | yeah, so dcop seems to work fine |
| 00:35.44 | syllogism | kdepepo: hmm.. Perhaps you could help me diagnose the real problem then |
| 00:35.51 | kdepepo | dont know what kdcop does differently... |
| 00:35.56 | syllogism | I can't do most things in KDE |
| 00:36.01 | syllogism | I can't click on any desktop icons |
| 00:36.48 | syllogism | Kicker used to show up, but after I clicked on it once, it doesn't even appear the bottom of the screen |
| 00:37.24 | kdepepo | hm, never seen this... |
| 00:37.57 | kdepepo | you said fresh install... maybe you missed some packages |
| 00:38.10 | syllogism | I have a bunch of warnings in the console from kbuildsycoca that say basically, 'warning, unspecified mimetype/servicetype' |
| 00:38.25 | kdepepo | ah |
| 00:38.39 | kdepepo | xdg paths? |
| 00:38.43 | syllogism | kdepepo: does that give you a better idea of what it is? |
| 00:38.48 | syllogism | hmm? |
| 00:39.10 | kdepepo | you got some "xdg" apps in PATH? type xdg then tab complete |
| 00:40.00 | kdepepo | and you should have XDG_* env variables |
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| 00:40.33 | kdepepo | "set | grep XDG" on linux, dont know for bsd |
| 00:41.07 | kdepepo | xdg is X Desktop Group, the standards for icons/apps/mime/menu locations |
| 00:41.14 | syllogism | kdepepo: I don't have xdg in my PATH |
| 00:41.37 | kdepepo | no, it is a group of commands starting with xdg |
| 00:41.44 | Nyle | hey |
| 00:41.48 | Nyle | whats good in kde 4.1? |
| 00:41.49 | kdepepo | xdg-mime etc... |
| 00:42.08 | syllogism | kdepepo: I don't have any |
| 00:42.09 | kdepepo | Nyle, http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.1-rc1.php |
| 00:42.12 | StormByte | Nyle: ? what's good? too much new things just to tell them here :) |
| 00:42.15 | syllogism | kdepepo: I tab-completed and nothing came up |
| 00:42.18 | kdepepo | syllogism, so you miss them ;) |
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| 00:42.28 | kdepepo | syllogism, whats about the env vars... |
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| 00:43.22 | syllogism | kdepepo: no, no environment variables with XDG in the name |
| 00:43.28 | kdepepo | Nyle, it has a link to Beta1, which shows some new features, or use http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Goals |
| 00:43.50 | kdepepo | syllogism, yep... I guessed it... that should be fixed by some xdg tools below kde. |
| 00:45.02 | syllogism | kdepepo: alright... I will see what I can find |
| 00:45.07 | Nyle | it looks boring |
| 00:45.14 | syllogism | kdepepo: thanks |
| 00:45.30 | kdepepo | Nyle, the wallpaper? |
| 00:45.38 | Nyle | kde 4.2 is coming when? |
| 00:45.43 | kdepepo | Nyle, January. |
| 00:45.47 | Nyle | cool |
| 00:46.00 | Nyle | whats good with kde 4.2? |
| 00:46.09 | StormByte | January? wow! |
| 00:47.17 | Nyle | i think a mosquito bite my boot |
| 00:47.21 | Nyle | inside the foot |
| 00:47.28 | Nyle | now it itches and burns |
| 00:47.49 | kdepepo | Nyle, if you want to be informed of 4.2 development, you could read commit digests |
| 00:47.59 | Nyle | kdepepo, how? |
| 00:48.03 | Nyle | how can i find them? |
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| 00:48.41 | usersam | Hi I have this CMake Error: ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config |
| 00:48.48 | usersam | can anyone help? |
| 00:49.09 | usersam | dpkg -S kde4-config |
| 00:49.09 | usersam | kde4libs-bin: /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kde4-config |
| 00:49.20 | usersam | i need to make a symlink? |
| 00:49.30 | kdepepo | what I saw last week, cube and cylinder effects are being added to kwin, re-added global hotkeys module, improved tooltips in panel, ... |
| 00:49.43 | Nyle | kdepepo, where did you see that |
| 00:50.00 | kdepepo | usersam, "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/kde4/bin" |
| 00:50.09 | kdepepo | Nyle, svn change log :) |
| 00:50.13 | Nyle | oh |
| 00:50.17 | Nyle | word |
| 00:50.20 | Nyle | thanka |
| 00:50.31 | Nyle | i will eat a green skittle for you |
| 00:50.32 | usersam | kdepepo, tried that |
| 00:50.56 | kdepepo | usersam, but? |
| 00:51.11 | usersam | but i get the same error |
| 00:51.20 | kdepepo | Ubuntu? |
| 00:51.23 | usersam | should i do it as root? |
| 00:51.27 | usersam | yep |
| 00:51.36 | kdepepo | no... just in terminal |
| 00:51.44 | kdepepo | what are you trying to install |
| 00:51.54 | usersam | svn kdenlive |
| 00:52.14 | kdepepo | is it cmake based |
| 00:52.57 | usersam | dunno, i'm just following instructions |
| 00:53.13 | usersam | it's a script that calls cmake |
| 00:53.28 | kdepepo | how do you call this script |
| 00:54.39 | usersam | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Kdenlive_builder_classic_script |
| 00:55.03 | usersam | ./kdenlive_builder getsources |
| 00:55.03 | usersam | ./kdenlive_builder build |
| 00:55.21 | kdepepo | then try "PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/kde4/bin ./kdenlive_builder build" in a single line |
| 00:55.32 | kdepepo | copy/paste, w/o quotes |
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| 00:56.53 | usersam | er@laptop:~/build/kdenlive4$ PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/kde4/bin ./kdenlive_builder4 build |
| 00:56.53 | usersam | ./configure: 1088: cannot create config.err: Permission denied |
| 00:56.53 | usersam | ./configure: 1089: cannot create config.err: Permission denied |
| 00:57.22 | usersam | sudo? |
| 00:57.44 | kdepepo | usually building should not require root rights |
| 00:58.28 | kdepepo | maybe you should get prebuild packages :) |
| 00:58.42 | usersam | they are buggy and crash |
| 00:58.56 | usersam | using sudo got me further |
| 00:59.08 | usersam | i hava a new problem now :) |
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| 01:10.39 | _genuser_ | guys I click on a file in dolphin and tell it to launch with mplayer. Instead it launches using gmplayer.... what gives? |
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| 01:12.22 | thiago | did you type /usr/bin/mplayer? |
| 01:12.56 | _genuser_ | thiago: yes. Right click -> Open With -> Other .... |
| 01:13.47 | kdepepo | _genuser_, gmplayer is "gui mplayer", it _is_ mplayer. |
| 01:14.07 | kdepepo | gmplayer is no gnome tool :) |
| 01:14.13 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: right but binary file wise they're two different binaries. |
| 01:14.27 | kdepepo | _genuser_, yeah, because gmplayer has gui compiled in. |
| 01:14.29 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: plus, gmplayer matches lirc commands slightly different. |
| 01:14.45 | StormByte | I go to sleep. See you all tomorrow! |
| 01:14.51 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: I mean in thunar, I am able to specify either or and it used the correct ones. |
| 01:14.56 | kdepepo | _genuser_, maybe... it uses a different config file, have a look at ~/.mplayer |
| 01:15.26 | kdepepo | _genuser_, there is config and gui.conf |
| 01:15.37 | kdepepo | one is for mplayer, the other for gmplayer |
| 01:15.52 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: ok, the config file is empty in ~/.mplayer directory. Checking gui.conf |
| 01:16.12 | _genuser_ | that one has a LOT of stuff. |
| 01:16.43 | _genuser_ | ok this contains the configuratino for things sucyh as ao and vo outputs .... |
| 01:16.49 | kdepepo | ... that is to be changed via gui actually :) but you can try hand edit, if you feel to break it :) |
| 01:18.13 | _genuser_ | but the lirc commands are basically compiled in. gmplayer uses mplayer settings from the .lircrc file.... where even tho the prog is set to mplayer, gmplayer uses those commands. |
| 01:18.21 | _genuser_ | but implements things like stop differently. |
| 01:18.46 | _genuser_ | besides, I don't really like the gui command interface which has no purpose 'coz I use the remote. :) |
| 01:19.19 | _genuser_ | also in dolphin, I can't seem to get it to launch .pdf files using xpdf.... So something in the dolphin is using all different configurations... |
| 01:20.01 | kdepepo | hm, I use KPDF |
| 01:20.51 | _genuser_ | kdepepo: I don't have it installed. I could install okular. But the issue that remains is why is dolphin failing to associate file to programs correctly. And why is it failing to launch the proggies .... |
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| 01:45.25 | _genuser_ | hello people. |
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| 01:45.35 | _genuser_ | how to rearrange widget on the bottom panel. |
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| 01:45.51 | usparc | Hi. Any idea why OpenGL effects do nothing - while XRender seems to work (KDE 4.1 rc2), using a 8800gt. |
| 01:46.22 | _genuser_ | order of system tray and task list stuff.... currently I have to delete and re-insert widget |
| 01:47.30 | Jucato | _genuser_: what KDE version? |
| 01:47.37 | _genuser_ | Jucato: 4.0.5 |
| 01:47.42 | usparc | Anyone use OpenGL effects with a recent nvidia card? Any tips for xorg.conf perhaps? |
| 01:47.44 | Jucato | _genuser_: you can't yet |
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| 01:48.05 | _genuser_ | Jucato: ok so removing and re-inserting in correct order is the only method .... |
| 01:48.09 | Jucato | _genuser_: that comes in KDE 4.1 |
| 01:48.11 | Jucato | yes |
| 01:49.10 | _genuser_ | ok will have to wait until gentoo adds 4.1 in package manager. |
| 01:49.15 | _genuser_ | Jucato: thanks. |
| 01:49.29 | Jucato | usparc: http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/kwin/COMPOSITE_HOWTO and http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release-notes |
| 01:50.31 | usparc | Excellent, thanks |
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| 01:54.25 | _genuser_ | anybody know if kde-look is down? Or rather why? Or does this channel not have anything related to that. |
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| 01:54.37 | thermogenic | _genuser_: kde4.1 is in the kde overlay if you feel risky, but I'd imagine 4.1 will get unmasked fairly quickly. gentoo kde team is fairly quick |
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| 01:55.09 | thermogenic | (fairly quickly after release I should say will be marked ~arch) |
| 01:55.18 | _genuser_ | thermogenic: plus I'm having issues with 4.0.5 as is. So better to let the gentoo team do their job and get it in. :) |
| 01:55.34 | _genuser_ | thermogenic: didn't see it using eix. So must be 'coz it's in a different overlay. |
| 01:55.37 | thermogenic | _genuser_: yeah, well, 3.5.9 is the latest stable |
| 01:55.50 | thermogenic | _genuser_: in gentoo |
| 01:56.35 | _genuser_ | thermogenic: interesting. don't see it in eix. only goes up to 4.0.5 |
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| 01:57.06 | Jucato | #gentoo-kde please |
| 01:57.14 | _genuser_ | Jucato: :) |
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| 01:58.45 | usparc | Jucato: Adding the xorg directives did not enable OpenGL effects. |
| 01:59.41 | Jucato | usparc: you will have to ask in your distro about enabling composite in X (check your drivers, etc.) |
| 02:00.38 | kdepepo | usparc, you also need to enable them in system settings->desktop |
| 02:00.57 | usparc | They appear to be enabled in X: NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is |
| 02:01.00 | usparc | 'enabled' |
| 02:01.19 | Jucato | how did you install KDE 4? distro packages? |
| 02:01.36 | usparc | kubuntu upgrade (packages) |
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| 02:02.42 | usparc | http://72.0.195.143/xorg.conf <- it is pretty small |
| 02:05.52 | kdepepo | usparc, can you enable desktop effects in system settings? |
| 02:06.10 | usparc | kdepepo: They are enabled - everything works with XRender, but not OpenGL |
| 02:06.29 | kdepepo | ah, okey. |
| 02:06.30 | Jucato | usparc: have you restarted X since you added the composite extension? |
| 02:06.44 | usparc | I ctrl+alt+backspaced |
| 02:06.52 | Jucato | when all else fails, try asking in #kubuntu-kde4 if other people have the same problem |
| 02:07.55 | usparc | Ya, this is a clean install, hopefully someone else comes across it. Thanks for your time |
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| 02:08.47 | k350 | How do one open up that window for root password in kde..kdesudo or somehting? |
| 02:08.56 | schnippi | kdesu |
| 02:09.06 | k350 | merci!:) |
| 02:09.17 | schnippi | :) |
| 02:11.53 | k350 | schnippi: I made a shortcut on the desktop to halt the system. However it requires that I'm root to shut it down that way. Is there any way around that? |
| 02:12.26 | k350 | so I that I can skip kdesu and jus thalt the systme by double clicking teh icon on the desktop? |
| 02:12.35 | schnippi | hm |
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| 02:12.44 | schnippi | setting your sudo rights to poweroff command? |
| 02:12.59 | schnippi | dont know if this will work, just an idea |
| 02:13.41 | k350 | Ah, and oh, by the way. Is it recommened to close teh sysem that way or would you do it differently? |
| 02:14.11 | Jucato | it's not recommended to shutdown the system using "shutdown" while KDE is running |
| 02:14.18 | k350 | It's going to be a LiveCD anyway. So ..what would you recommend? |
| 02:14.39 | schnippi | on a live cd it shouldnt matter that much? |
| 02:14.45 | Jucato | yep |
| 02:14.59 | k350 | ah so in that case I can use halt then I guess |
| 02:15.06 | schnippi | but whats the deal with using the shutdown button from kmenu? :) |
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| 02:15.50 | k350 | from the desktop |
| 02:15.53 | Jucato | you can even add a logout/shutdown button on the panel |
| 02:16.03 | Jucato | anyway see http://ridderbusch.name/wp/2007/09/06/kde-dcop-goodie-1-shut-down-the-system/ and http://andrejserafim.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/kde-shutdown-logout-restart/ |
| 02:16.04 | schnippi | create a plasmoid! ;-) |
| 02:16.16 | Jucato | wait, is this kde3 or 4? |
| 02:16.18 | k350 | I need an icon on the desktop to shutdown the system So I crated one and added kdesu halt |
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| 02:16.34 | Jucato | if KDE 4, the links I gave are useless |
| 02:16.36 | thiago | that's a bad idea |
| 02:16.41 | thiago | k350: you should shut down KDE first |
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| 02:16.57 | k350 | Jucato: Ah , yes I know about the panel. But I want something on the desktop since I'm going to take away teh panel |
| 02:17.20 | schnippi | thiago: he is on a live cd |
| 02:17.35 | schnippi | this will be a live cd ;) |
| 02:17.50 | thiago | well, make sure the user isn't allowed to mount anything |
| 02:17.55 | thiago | including the HD or USB flash disks |
| 02:19.14 | thiago | in other words, the only filesystems mounted read-write are RAM-based |
| 02:19.16 | k350 | thiago: err, how do I shutdown kde? killall kde? |
| 02:19.33 | thiago | by sending the proper commands to ksmserver |
| 02:19.34 | k350 | thiago: like kdesu killall kde & halt ..or somehting? |
| 02:19.47 | thiago | if you logged in via kdm, you can also tell it to shut down the system |
| 02:20.05 | thiago | if it's KDE 3, you can use dcop |
| 02:20.11 | thiago | if it's KDE 4, you can use qdbus |
| 02:20.26 | Jucato | points to the 2 (KDE 3) links he gave above... |
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| 02:22.35 | k350 | checking teh links..... |
| 02:22.39 | _genuser_ | Jucato is a he?? o0 |
| 02:22.49 | _genuser_ | :P |
| 02:22.55 | _genuser_ | sorry just kidding. |
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| 02:26.41 | syllogism | I've got a fresh install of KDE 3.5 on a fresh install of OpenBSD, but it appears KDE doesn't know how to handle my links |
| 02:26.58 | syllogism | if I try to launch for example, 'home' on the desktop - it doesn't do anything |
| 02:27.07 | syllogism | but if I create a new link to an application, it launches it just fine |
| 02:27.54 | thiago | is konqueror installed? |
| 02:28.14 | syllogism | Someone suggested needing xdg earlier. I found that OpenBSD uses a 'shared-mime-types' package, so I don't think it uses xdg |
| 02:28.26 | syllogism | thiago: yes, I can launch konqueror from a konsole |
| 02:28.54 | thiago | KDE 3 doesn't use the shared MIME database |
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| 02:29.58 | syllogism | thiago: what does that mean for me? |
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| 02:30.43 | thiago | I was confirming your suspicion that it doesn't use XDG's shared mime database |
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| 02:31.08 | syllogism | thiago: great, thank you. |
| 02:31.11 | HarpyFiend | kde users are so gay |
| 02:31.36 | syllogism | thiago: Do you know what I might look for? It appears that dcop is working ok |
| 02:31.50 | HarpyFiend | thiago oh your nick is SOOO gay |
| 02:31.53 | syllogism | I can run dcop from the command line and it shows a list of clients |
| 02:31.54 | k350 | there's a logout button at the end of teh menu. what function does it call? |
| 02:31.55 | thiago | syllogism: if you click on a folder in Konqueror, does it complain? |
| 02:32.12 | syllogism | thiago: I can't navigate to my home folder. I can only open web pages |
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| 02:32.24 | syllogism | thiago: attempting to navigate 'home' freezes konq |
| 02:32.24 | thiago | syllogism: if you type /tmp, what happens? |
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| 02:32.30 | thiago | freezes? |
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| 02:32.39 | thiago | anything in ~/.xsession-errors? |
| 02:34.33 | syllogism | thiago: yeah - it froze the whole desktop somehow |
| 02:34.39 | syllogism | had to kill konq from tty |
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| 02:35.26 | syllogism | thiago: no - i don't have any .xsession-errors |
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| 02:37.29 | thiago | how did you start KDE? startx? |
| 02:37.31 | syllogism | I've got a warning in the console that says 'kdesktop: /etc/security is a File: USE AddFile!' |
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| 02:37.40 | syllogism | thiago: yes. I've got startkde in my .xinitrc |
| 02:38.09 | thiago | then look at the tty output. Do you see any bizarre errors from Konqueror? |
| 02:38.11 | thiago | not kdesktop |
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| 02:38.19 | thiago | or from the konsole you ran it from |
| 02:38.58 | syllogism | thiago: unfortunately no... |
| 02:39.03 | syllogism | thiago: it just kind of hangs until I close it |
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| 02:40.07 | syllogism | thiago: It acts almost like kdcop when I try to run that |
| 02:40.12 | syllogism | thiago: it just hangs. |
| 02:40.17 | syllogism | but regular old dcop works fine |
| 02:41.36 | Jucato | grr! my nth X crash today :( |
| 02:41.58 | Jucato | turns of desktop effects to for a while.. :( |
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| 02:50.42 | darx | hi, when I scroll pdf's in konqueror kde4.1 rc1, i'm getting rendering artifacts. only the top and the bottom parts of the window scrolls. |
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| 02:50.53 | darx | i'm on kubuntu btw. |
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| 03:04.28 | Viper550 | Will there be any more updates to the 3.x series? |
| 03:05.05 | Jucato | 3.5.10 is planned for august |
| 03:05.22 | Viper550 | no 3.6? |
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| 03:05.42 | Jucato | definitely no |
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| 03:12.57 | k350 | can I just uninstall the panel? |
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| 03:13.10 | k350 | What is the name of teh panel so I cna uninstall it? |
| 03:13.28 | schnippi | kicker? |
| 03:13.55 | k350 | it'a that the name of the panel..kicker? |
| 03:14.08 | schnippi | what kde version are you talking about? |
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| 03:14.33 | k350 | Oh, good question 3 I think but I'm not sure actually. Where cna I check? |
| 03:15.23 | schnippi | on every windows help->about kde dialog ;) |
| 03:15.49 | k350 | un moment.... |
| 03:16.18 | darx | does anybody else have rendering issues with images or pdfs? |
| 03:16.24 | schnippi | on kde 3.5 it will be kicker |
| 03:16.25 | darx | when scrollling? |
| 03:16.41 | darx | kde 4.1 rc1 |
| 03:16.43 | k350 | I've KDE 3.5.9 I suppose |
| 03:17.26 | k350 | darx: Aha, thanks a lot. will uninstall:-) |
| 03:18.33 | darx | um what? |
| 03:19.22 | darx | k350: ^ |
| 03:19.37 | Jucato | k350: you won't have access to the K Menu without kicker, btw |
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| 03:20.03 | schnippi | k350: are you firm with that what you are doing? |
| 03:20.04 | Jucato | darx: Nvidia graphics card? |
| 03:20.11 | k350 | I dont want the kmenu |
| 03:20.13 | darx | nope ati fglrx |
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| 03:20.25 | schnippi | k350: you dont know your kde version but want to create a live cd... |
| 03:20.25 | k350 | there's nothing on the kmenu I can't acces anyway |
| 03:20.39 | Jucato | access from? |
| 03:21.04 | k350 | I cna run a command or form the terminal. |
| 03:21.08 | darx | jucato it magically works now |
| 03:21.11 | darx | thanks |
| 03:21.13 | Jucato | darx: I heard of issues like that, but with the nvidia card. |
| 03:21.29 | Jucato | k350: ok. I guess you're the only one who will be using that live cd |
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| 03:21.34 | schnippi | k350: why not use fluxbox or sth. lightweight? |
| 03:21.37 | darx | thanks folks |
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| 03:21.49 | k350 | I dont have a large set of applications in on the system. And notign that I really have to acces frm the menu |
| 03:21.52 | Jahooty | is it possible to have two desktops side by side on the same monitor with kde? |
| 03:22.20 | k350 | schnippi: good poit. I tried with fluxbox but I'd some problems wiht the desktop |
| 03:24.13 | thechris | any vim users (#vim is dead) |
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| 03:26.50 | k350 | thechris: I use JED |
| 03:27.03 | Jucato | (still the wrong channel to ask...) |
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| 03:27.40 | k350 | ah there's actually a #vim channel |
| 03:27.54 | thechris | hmm, seems i've fixed the issue. used BufNew instead of BufNewFile |
| 03:28.10 | k350 | my KDE system is down on 829 MB :-) |
| 03:28.21 | k350 | trying to make it smaller |
| 03:29.10 | k350 | removes synapitc |
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| 03:32.00 | naudiz | kdemod won't let me edit it's menu with 'KDE menu editor' it gives me this error messsage: "Menu changes could not be saved because of the following problem : Could not write to /root/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu but what the hell is it doing trying to edit something in /root when I am just a regular user not root ? |
| 03:32.07 | naudiz | anyone have any ideas ? |
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| 04:03.07 | unclemike | in opensuse 11.0 how do i set the clock from 00:02 to 12:02...i dont see anything user change date and time |
| 04:04.15 | SAS_Spidey01 | I would rather hope that OpenSUSE doesn't have its own special way of setting the time displayed by KDE 8=) |
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| 04:05.29 | unclemike | noone in #suse is answering |
| 04:06.07 | unclemike | is there commands for it |
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| 04:07.55 | SAS_Spidey01 | I would expect right clicking on it would give a context menu leading in the proper direction |
| 04:08.05 | SAS_Spidey01 | notes that he does not use kde4 |
| 04:08.57 | unclemike | kde4 clock is different from kde3 |
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| 04:09.50 | Battousai | unclemike: system settings -> regional & language -> time & dates |
| 04:10.12 | Battousai | assuming you mean changing locale format |
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| 04:10.42 | Battousai | if you mean actually changing it from 00(midnight) to 12(noon), that would be distro-dependent or command-line based outside the realm of kde |
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| 04:13.53 | unclemike | Battousai: im in suse..dont have that area..but under the system date and time.. |
| 04:14.58 | bwayne | Battousai: it's under time format, in region and language, in suse. |
| 04:16.42 | unclemike | someone in suse helped..region and language was under configure desktop |
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| 04:50.05 | misc-- | hello, is there a way to disable the "alt" shortcut in konsole and such? If I push alt, it goes to the menu but I don't want that.. I just want it to do nothing. Is that possible? |
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| 04:52.36 | misc-- | also it would be really nice if some apps like konsole and the chat client (kopete) had short cut keys for go to tab1, tab2, etc, like Konversation has |
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| 05:18.05 | dbaky | hi |
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| 05:41.36 | misc-- | is it just me or is it not possible to install new widgest/plasmoids from the internet via the 'add widget' interface? |
| 05:41.48 | Spiro | Hi, I installed on a hd Windows XP I wish to take an image of the entire partition and dump it on a DVD. What program could I use, booting from a CD-ROM? |
| 05:42.10 | Spiro | Same applies then for linux |
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| 05:45.57 | kriko | Spiro: ntfsclone |
| 05:46.10 | kriko | http://www.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfsclone |
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| 05:47.13 | Spiro | kriko, thank you. |
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| 06:01.50 | J-23 | Why Konqueror 4 doesn't integrate with KBluetooth? |
| 06:04.01 | Jucato | hm.. let me guess... either because your kbluetooth is for kde3, in which case it's not guaranteed to work, or it's the just released version for kde 4, in which case it might not be completely finished yet... |
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| 06:18.10 | miwi | moin |
| 06:18.42 | tictric | moin, moin |
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| 06:20.23 | g0dFlaG | excuse me how do i put task manager in ctrlaltdel popup? |
| 06:21.32 | Jucato | g0dFlaG: maybe you want Ctrl+Esc? |
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| 06:24.06 | sigma_12 | which config file controls whats in the kontact toolbars? |
| 06:28.07 | Jucato | ~/.kde/share/apps/kontact/kontactui.rc (or ~/.kde4, whichever the case may be) |
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| 06:58.26 | jpin | Hi, in kde4 -- how do i remove an activity? |
| 06:58.54 | jpin | (using 4.0.98) |
| 06:59.00 | kriko | Hello, jpin! What activity? |
| 06:59.09 | kriko | plasmoid? |
| 06:59.22 | jpin | kriko: no.. the multiple desktops thing... |
| 06:59.58 | jpin | when you "zoom out" on you desktop from the upper right corner |
| 07:00.02 | kriko | I don't know what are you talking about |
| 07:00.04 | kriko | ah! |
| 07:00.12 | kriko | zoom control? |
| 07:00.28 | jpin | right.. in that button, there is a sub-button that states "add activity" |
| 07:00.36 | jpin | (i added one) |
| 07:01.08 | jpin | now, when i use (on the same menu) the sub-button "zoom out", I have 3 activity -- and i'm wondering how do i remove them |
| 07:01.19 | kriko | I don't have this - only zoom and add widgets |
| 07:01.53 | jpin | kriko: click "zoom out" |
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| 07:02.41 | jpin | ah! found it |
| 07:02.47 | kriko | where? |
| 07:02.58 | kriko | I added activity and now my desktop is green! |
| 07:03.00 | jpin | hm.. weird choice of names "add activity" and "remove desktop" |
| 07:03.45 | kriko | what are those activities for, anyway? |
| 07:03.53 | kriko | I can't remove it now |
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| 07:04.21 | jpin | kriko: think of it as multiple desktops, where you could have multiple background with many desktop icons |
| 07:04.54 | jpin | to remove it, righ click on the desktop and search for "remove desktop" |
| 07:04.58 | kriko | nifty! I might get used to it - but it should be named desktop not activity |
| 07:05.05 | jpin | yeah! |
| 07:05.15 | kriko | translation bug |
| 07:07.09 | jpin | this 4.0.98 rocks! |
| 07:07.47 | kriko | it does! But I still miss panel hiding |
| 07:08.31 | jpin | hm... yeah, that button could be handy. Perhaps a plasmoid that can hide can be made... |
| 07:10.40 | kriko | No, I need autohiding. I don't bother with clicking buttons |
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| 07:11.16 | jpin | kriko: oh.. i see what you mean. |
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| 07:13.04 | Dumble | hello world from KDE 4.1 RC1 ! |
| 07:13.11 | jpin | :-) |
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| 07:14.04 | Dumble | migrating from 3.5 was not very easy, it worked well yesterday, and I had to destroy my profile this morning... |
| 07:14.11 | kriko | Dumble: hello! |
| 07:14.17 | Dumble | because plasma crashed every time while starting |
| 07:14.26 | kriko | Dumble: bad distro! |
| 07:14.43 | Dumble | :o |
| 07:14.50 | kriko | which distro you use? |
| 07:15.01 | Dumble | gentoo |
| 07:15.10 | jpin | debian |
| 07:15.22 | kriko | opensuse |
| 07:15.26 | kriko | :) mixed company |
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| 07:17.54 | freemonkey | QUESTION: why are the printer settings in kprinter not matching from the printer settings in CUPS web page ?? Are these two meant to be separate??? |
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| 07:19.55 | kriko | freemonkey: I think so - so anyone can adjust printer to it's needs |
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| 07:22.26 | freemonkey | kriko: but the CUPS is the maintaining the printerdriver PPD...this kprinter is supposed to sync with CUPS..i think this is a bug!!! |
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| 07:23.16 | kriko | I don't know - don't have a printer currently here |
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| 07:39.18 | eldar_ | hi everybody and condratulations with RC1 release~ |
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| 07:44.20 | eldar_ | but the bug http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161673 isnt fixed still |
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| 07:55.12 | kriko | eldar_: what fs are you using on external storage? |
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| 07:56.18 | kriko | and can you send me a copy of such file |
| 07:57.14 | eldar_ | I think it is vfat |
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| 07:57.37 | tuxick | my mother always says "leave thinking to the horses, they have bigger heads" |
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| 08:01.07 | kriko | http://fukung.net/v/2574/most_powerfule_computer_in_the_world.jpg |
| 08:01.09 | kriko | :) |
| 08:01.11 | kriko | it slipped |
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| 08:04.56 | eldar_ | <kriko> how can I send you a file? |
| 08:05.21 | kriko | yes! I instructed you to do that in private |
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| 08:14.41 | artie | i'm using kde-4.1. i've just installed a couple of new widgets using the download from internet method but they don't appear in the list |
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| 08:20.01 | misc-- | artie: doesn't work for me either |
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| 08:20.22 | misc-- | bit of a pain, hopefully that's fixed soon |
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| 08:23.14 | martijn81 | tags, comments and ratings do not work in dolphin already(KDE4.1 RC1), does this has anything todo with the filesystem? |
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| 08:27.37 | FreakGuard | I've got a problem with konqueror: no settings (just a blank page) I'm using kdemod |
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| 08:27.57 | Genios | Hallo zusammen, Hello @ all |
| 08:28.14 | FreakGuard | Genios, dasn englischer channel :) |
| 08:28.30 | Genios | KK |
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| 08:29.00 | Genios | Was nicht ausschliesst das hier auch deutschsprachige unterwegs sind, These bestätigt |
| 08:29.09 | misc-- | heh |
| 08:29.12 | tictric | !de | Genios |
| 08:29.22 | tictric | wrong channel :) |
| 08:29.30 | FreakGuard | told him allready. |
| 08:29.42 | Genios | and he know it |
| 08:29.48 | Genios | not the wrong channel |
| 08:29.54 | tictric | and we know it |
| 08:30.01 | tictric | everybody knows it |
| 08:30.11 | kriko | everybody is special! |
| 08:30.19 | FreakGuard | ehm.. I've still got a problem to solve ;) |
| 08:30.40 | tictric | FreakGuard: Just keep in mind that you're special |
| 08:30.47 | kriko | what kde mod are you using? |
| 08:31.00 | FreakGuard | kdemod (kde 3 |
| 08:31.01 | FreakGuard | ) |
| 08:31.08 | pinotree | FreakGuard: it looks like a distro problem |
| 08:31.16 | FreakGuard | hm |
| 08:31.22 | FreakGuard | in KDE itself no problem |
| 08:31.35 | kriko | remove the mod |
| 08:31.37 | FreakGuard | just using konqueror with fluxbox (no other KDE) |
| 08:32.44 | FreakGuard | hm? |
| 08:33.35 | kriko | I don't know but this kde-mod sounds dangerous |
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| 08:34.28 | FreakGuard | it isn't |
| 08:34.50 | FreakGuard | kdemod.ath.cx :) |
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| 08:36.42 | _the_p | Hello. My digital camera can't read the images when i add metadata to them with digikam and then reaload it to the camera when i remove the metadata which was added then it works again on the camera? Is this a bug in the digital camara or does digikam write the metadata wrong or is it not possible to read the images when the reading algorithm doesn't support the metadata? |
| 08:37.45 | kriko | FreakGuard: yes, it contains aditional patches and stuff |
| 08:37.49 | kriko | it is special! |
| 08:37.56 | kriko | for special people, like you |
| 08:38.37 | FreakGuard | :( |
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| 08:38.49 | kriko | :) |
| 08:39.13 | kriko | can't you use just normal KDE without this mod? |
| 08:39.27 | kriko | Doesn't archlinux provide packages? |
| 08:39.55 | FreakGuard | that's not the point |
| 08:40.00 | FreakGuard | sure it does |
| 08:40.25 | kriko | if you use some mods, then go to the mods channel - archlinux? |
| 08:40.35 | FreakGuard | looking for that one |
| 08:42.26 | sandsmark | kdemod means kde modular |
| 08:42.58 | sandsmark | we don't patch it more than for example ubuntu, and we have written more of the patches ourselves (and ubuntu includes some of them =) |
| 08:43.33 | FreakGuard | sandsmark, so any ideas? :) |
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| 08:44.00 | sandsmark | FreakGuard: kde 3 or 4? |
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| 08:44.16 | FreakGuard | 3 |
| 08:44.49 | sandsmark | FreakGuard: it is settings â configure konqueror that is empty? |
| 08:44.56 | FreakGuard | jep |
| 08:45.18 | FreakGuard | (btw: how to make that arrow? :) ) |
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| 08:45.33 | sandsmark | altgr+i=â =) |
| 08:45.42 | sandsmark | FreakGuard: freak error, I would say |
| 08:45.47 | sandsmark | but take it to #archlinux |
| 08:46.30 | FreakGuard | they're not quite talkative |
| 08:47.14 | kriko | â |
| 08:47.19 | kriko | ââ |
| 08:47.22 | kriko | wow! |
| 08:47.45 | FreakGuard | :) |
| 08:47.53 | kriko | âââ |
| 08:48.14 | kriko | How can you make arrow poining up? |
| 08:48.21 | kriko | *pointing |
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| 08:48.25 | Mooby | turn your screen :) |
| 08:48.28 | kriko | :D |
| 08:48.30 | FreakGuard | hrhr |
| 08:48.50 | FreakGuard | turn your keyboard :) |
| 08:49.08 | kriko | seriosly people! This is a serious channel! |
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| 08:50.29 | mikos | Hello, please what is the status of Strigi in KDE 4.1 RC1? I am now trying KDE 4.1 RC1 and it is great, but I can't find how to use Strigi... I have enabled strigi in Nepomuk settings... than (after some time) I have tried strigiclient... but there is 0 indexed files |
| 08:51.20 | mikos | Also strigi:/ protocol (Kkio_slave) doesn't work, it is not included? |
| 08:51.38 | mikos | s/Kkio/kio/ |
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| 08:53.27 | mikos | Anybody? |
| 08:54.06 | pinotree | kde3's strigi:/ was part of strigi, not kde's |
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| 08:54.23 | pinotree | better ask in #strigi whether they do provide a kioslave for kde3 |
| 08:54.27 | pinotree | *kde4 |
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| 08:58.16 | martijn81 | pinotree: do you happen to know anything about dolphin crashing on loading avi files lately? |
| 08:58.37 | pinotree | got a backtrace? |
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| 08:58.43 | mikos | pinotree: Thanks, I am trying #strigi channel now... bye |
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| 08:59.05 | martijn81 | pinotree: ehm :o how did we do this again? |
| 08:59.35 | annma | martijn81: get the debug packages from your distro and make dolphin crash then use the crash manager that appears |
| 09:00.03 | martijn81 | annma: ok, which debug package of what? |
| 09:00.09 | martijn81 | i am on kubuntu |
| 09:00.50 | annma | ask in #kubuntu I run KDE compiled myself |
| 09:06.18 | martijn81 | almost there... |
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| 09:09.19 | gkiagia | has anyone seen this crash before? http://rafb.net/p/azyiVf89.html kded4 crashes while I am upgrading some packages on debian |
| 09:09.24 | annma | is this recent then? |
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| 09:09.46 | annma | martijn81: is this recent then? |
| 09:10.09 | annma | while you're upgrading? |
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| 09:10.35 | martijn81 | annma: no after upgrading to rc1 |
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| 09:11.04 | martijn81 | i am not the only user with this, there already was another one out there |
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| 09:11.37 | gkiagia | annma: yes, I use synaptic to upgrade, and at some point there seems to be a script messing up with the mime types which makes kded4 crash... I get messages like "Unknown media type in type 'all/all'" in synaptic when kded4 crashes |
| 09:12.17 | gkiagia | has happened two times.. the first time I was upgrading some texlive packages, the other time I was upgrading kdelibs5-data |
| 09:12.34 | annma | upgrade KDE outside KDE or ask in #debian |
| 09:12.48 | annma | we do not support distro stuff |
| 09:13.24 | gkiagia | annma: yes, I know.. I asked in #debian-kde already, just wondering if somebody has seen this too maybe in another distro :) |
| 09:14.09 | Dumble | hum, bug spotted in akregator : when the title of a summary is HTML text, the HTML code is shown instead of interpreted |
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| 09:15.12 | ertangvn | Uwe Thiem? |
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| 09:17.57 | Dumble | this bug can be seen there : http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6103/akregatorbugfp8.jpg |
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| 09:18.43 | gkiagia | Dumble: I have seen this too but not in recent akregator versions. what version are you using? |
| 09:18.56 | Dumble | latest in KDE 4.1 rc1 |
| 09:20.37 | gkiagia | ah, it's different from the bug I was talking about |
| 09:20.56 | gkiagia | I hadn't seen the screenshot |
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| 09:30.50 | annma | bugs.kde.org for bug reports |
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| 09:31.05 | annma | and #kontact for akregator |
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| 09:34.23 | martijn81 | pinotree: http://rafb.net/p/nPdrQr89.html |
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| 09:35.07 | martijn81 | do you need anything else? |
| 09:35.17 | _AleX_ | hi all. I'm trying to sync my cell phone with kaddressbook using kitchensync. someone can help me ? |
| 09:35.39 | pinotree | known strigi problem, should be fixed with the next version |
| 09:35.48 | martijn81 | ok |
| 09:35.50 | martijn81 | :) |
| 09:35.58 | pinotree | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164296 |
| 09:36.10 | Dumble | annma, I know, it was just to know if someone else have seen that |
| 09:36.25 | annma | #kontact then |
| 09:37.09 | _AleX_ | hello annma :) |
| 09:37.41 | Dumble | ok |
| 09:37.49 | annma | also #kontact maybe _AleX_ |
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| 09:39.14 | _AleX_ | you're not on #toulibre ? :-) |
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| 09:40.24 | CharonP1 | if I install kdebase3 to get kcontrol in opensuse, will settings like file associations work in kde4-dolphin? |
| 09:42.24 | annma | oh you are that Alex ;) |
| 09:42.39 | _AleX_ | annma: the only one :) |
| 09:42.41 | annma | forgot to add #toulibre in auto connect |
| 09:42.43 | annma | lol |
| 09:42.57 | annma | I have a new laptop, that's why ;) |
| 09:45.21 | martijn81 | thanks for being so helpfull pinotree |
| 09:45.54 | CharonP1 | there's no file association settings for kde4? |
| 09:45.59 | annma | CharonP1: no, settings are separate for KDE3 and 4 |
| 09:46.04 | annma | there are |
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| 09:47.16 | CharonP1 | I figured that, but how do you change associations in kde4 then? what happened to the detailed kcontrol? |
| 09:47.44 | annma | in system settings CharonP1 |
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| 09:49.03 | _AleX_ | someone has already used kitchensync ? |
| 09:49.14 | CharonP1 | not that I can see |
| 09:49.55 | annma | CharonP1: system settings -> Advanced -> File associations |
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| 09:50.38 | CharonP1 | annma: so File Associations should be in the advanced tab, but it isn't. any clue what component I'm missing |
| 09:50.40 | CharonP1 | ? |
| 09:50.59 | annma | ask in your distro channel |
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| 09:51.23 | annma | really if this is the case that they split that, you should complain |
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| 09:53.57 | CharonP1 | I'm gonna try installing konqueror |
| 09:54.57 | CharonP1 | nope |
| 09:57.30 | martijn81 | what is the best webcam i can buy for kde4? |
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| 09:58.09 | CharonP1 | In <konqueror>, Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations! But not in systemsettings, wow. |
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| 09:59.52 | Dumble | yep, there are some usability problem with system settings, for example, I think that "keyboard layout" would be better in "keyboard & mouse" than in "language" |
| 10:00.22 | Dumble | maybe in both ? |
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| 10:01.57 | Gioacchino | hey someone here use pyqt4 ? |
| 10:02.22 | boom1992 | Gioacchino: yes |
| 10:02.22 | boom1992 | ... |
| 10:02.39 | Gioacchino | I have a problem... |
| 10:02.58 | Gioacchino | my pyuic4 return error with .ui from qt4 designer |
| 10:03.57 | Gioacchino | I am on kubuntu |
| 10:04.33 | Gioacchino | I have designer from qt 4.4.0 and pyuic4 Python User Interface Compiler 4.4.2 for Qt version 4.4.0 |
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| 10:05.20 | gnumm | does a sort of "adblock" exist for konqueror? |
| 10:05.30 | bonsaikitten | yes |
| 10:06.34 | gnumm | but i have to give the bad websites? |
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| 10:10.25 | bpun | stupid question-- why cant i drag from the menu to place icon-shortcuts on desktop? |
| 10:10.58 | gnumm | bpun: KDE4? |
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| 10:12.10 | bpun | y |
| 10:12.34 | bpun | (kde4) |
| 10:13.34 | bpun | gnumm, so i'm dumb and your smart.. tell me.. |
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| 10:14.13 | bpun | ok.. I'm a fuckan mental retarded.. the rest of you are fuckan smart as einstein.. please help my mind.. its so f'd up today.. |
| 10:14.56 | gnumm | lol calm down |
| 10:15.01 | gnumm | open kickoff |
| 10:15.07 | gnumm | (your menu) |
| 10:15.15 | gnumm | then click on an icon |
| 10:15.20 | gnumm | hold the click |
| 10:15.28 | gnumm | and drag it on the desktop |
| 10:16.16 | gnumm | that's it ;) |
| 10:17.00 | bpun | gnumm, nope.. this is a fedora.. i have no clue if fedora has its super changes to a default kde desktop.. that trick used to work.. thanks nways.. |
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| 10:17.27 | gnumm | do you use kde4.0 or 4,1? |
| 10:17.28 | bpun | idiots in fedora are just trolling.. gnome no problem.. can make icons on the top panel.. kde.. cant.. |
| 10:17.32 | bpun | 4.0.5 |
| 10:17.34 | _AleX_ | someone has already used kitchensync ? i need help for sync my cell phone with kaddressbook |
| 10:18.01 | gnumm | i use kde4.1, it works, but i can't remember that it didn't work with 4.0 |
| 10:18.19 | bpun | maybe its those fedora idiots.. they cut off alot of menu items.. like kwrite which isnt in the menu.. but accessible |
| 10:18.23 | gnumm | no, kde on fedora should work like on opensuse |
| 10:18.36 | gnumm | ah really? |
| 10:18.47 | bpun | gnumm, (accessible as start/run) |
| 10:19.19 | bpun | gnumm, so you're using opensuse? |
| 10:19.24 | gnumm | yes |
| 10:19.31 | gnumm | 11.0 |
| 10:19.54 | bpun | gnumm, this is a brand new fresh install.. the fedora schmucks just trolly.. |
| 10:20.09 | bpun | its a freigan newbie question ... |
| 10:20.31 | gnumm | if use used fedora, i had the gnome |
| 10:20.46 | gnumm | i guess kde is not really a good choice when you use fedora |
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| 10:22.07 | gnumm | the integration is much more better in other distros |
| 10:22.43 | gnumm | are there kde4.1 packages for fedora? |
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| 10:31.07 | Celestar | the "dead space" in the icons of the system tray, are they supposed to be white, black or transparent? (4.1rc1) |
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| 10:35.55 | level1 | I have a window that doesn't have a title-bar... I want to manipulate it with alt-f3 but it refuses to give me that menu |
| 10:36.02 | level1 | is there some way around it? |
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| 10:36.12 | level1 | maybe a dbus call or somthing? |
| 10:39.02 | gkiagia | level1: only one window? or all windows? maybe kwin crashed? |
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| 10:40.24 | level1 | gkiagia... its a specific app |
| 10:40.36 | level1 | its the tear off dialog to skim |
| 10:40.57 | gkiagia | so, what do you want to do with it? |
| 10:41.00 | level1 | it always starts halfway down the screen on the left side, and i want to force it to appear in the bottom left corner |
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| 10:41.22 | gkiagia | alt+click it and drag it |
| 10:41.27 | level1 | but I can't unless i can pull up this dialgo |
| 10:41.38 | level1 | no, I want to force it initially on startup |
| 10:41.48 | level1 | so its not in my way every single time I log in |
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| 10:42.29 | gkiagia | you can access window-specific kwin settings from kcontrol/systemsettings (kde3/kde4 respectively) |
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| 11:16.44 | oneforall | is k3b working in kde4 ? |
| 11:17.54 | mondini | oneforall: yes |
| 11:18.01 | oneforall | thanks |
| 11:18.25 | mondini | at least it compiles |
| 11:19.29 | kriko | oneforall: kind of |
| 11:19.34 | kriko | I can't burn dvd images |
| 11:19.43 | kriko | at least I couldn't weeks ago |
| 11:19.54 | oneforall | it burns direct then but not the iso eh |
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| 11:21.32 | martijn81 | it burned iso fine here |
| 11:21.51 | martijn81 | but for dvd i dunno |
| 11:22.10 | oneforall | then i need to keep kdelib3 for sure ;) just I see the way it is now that 3 binary files and the headers would get an overwrite . kde4 I could use have cmake put it in /usr/include.kde4 |
| 11:22.31 | oneforall | overwritten* |
| 11:23.00 | oneforall | what version you have ? svn or the 1.4.0 |
| 11:23.18 | oneforall | err 1.0.4 |
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| 11:25.16 | oneforall | dbus-qt3 is there a dbus-qt4 . I googled a few days ago and was kinda ending up every where but . left me not knowing if there is |
| 11:26.43 | rohanpm | oneforall: yes |
| 11:26.53 | rohanpm | oneforall: it isn't called dbus-qt4 because it's simply a part of Qt |
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| 11:27.13 | oneforall | ah ok thats why :) |
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| 11:36.28 | Wubbbi | Hello :) I have get a crash when i wanted to start a plasma widget. http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/328 ... maybe you can fix that ;) that was on KDE 4.1 RC1 |
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| 11:49.04 | gkiagia | Wubbbi: maybe the plasmoid was compiled for an earlier version of plasma? |
| 11:49.44 | Wubbbi | gkiagia: bug fixed. I have used an to old version ^^ thx |
| 11:50.05 | gkiagia | yes, that's what I said :) |
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| 12:07.44 | martijn81 | any other users using kmail-kde4 on gmail with imap? |
| 12:08.23 | Mooby | me |
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| 12:13.00 | martijn81 | and? fast? |
| 12:13.10 | martijn81 | it seems way slower than pop here |
| 12:13.46 | martijn81 | and i have lots of errors |
| 12:13.52 | martijn81 | Error while getting folder information. |
| 12:13.52 | martijn81 | Could Not Determine Resource Status |
| 12:13.57 | martijn81 | that kind of shit |
| 12:14.03 | sandsmark | use disconnected imap |
| 12:16.26 | Mooby | i have one acount with imap and two other with dimap |
| 12:16.49 | Mooby | it isn't slow, but i get from time to time some errors on resource status |
| 12:17.29 | bedahr | hi! I am running a quite recent (about 3-4 days old) svn-version. After I use it for a while I notice the system getting less and less responsive. After a few days running it is unbearable slow and uses nearly 2GB ram (I only have 1GB so the rest is swap). I noticed that restarting plasma helps a lot (about 100mb) and that I have about 100 kio_* processes running. Killing those and restarting plasma decreased memory usage back to about 500mb. |
| 12:17.43 | bedahr | which process is supposed to manage the kio_* stuff? |
| 12:18.08 | Mooby | i(ve noticed that there are a lot of kio_ stying alive, after closing some applications |
| 12:18.30 | bedahr | yes that is probably my problem |
| 12:19.32 | bedahr | but not always - I tried to reproduce it by nuking all the kio_* process, then starting dolphin and navigating around a bit. After I closed dolphin I still had 3 processes (2x kio_file and kio_trash) but after a while I now have only one kio_file process left |
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| 12:20.41 | bedahr | I heard that kde is supposed to re-use existing kio_* io-slaves that is why it keeps them running for a little while to avoid the need to start them again when needed (like caching but for processes) but it seems like the "re-using" part doesn't always work |
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| 12:29.30 | vpilo | Hi, I just updated from svn using kdesvn-build, and it just won't compile anything besides kdesupport,kdeadmin and a couple others... Also I can't compile my kde4 app, I get "Error: syntax error in /home/valerio/kde4/build/kdelibs/kdeui/kdeui_automoc.cpp.files" |
| 12:29.56 | yao_ziyuan | i use Special Window Settings to force minimize and skip-taskbar a window but i can still access it via Alt+Tab. how do i make it invisible in the Alt+Tab list? |
| 12:30.30 | vpilo | whoops, that's the kdesvn-build logs error: the error I get with my app is: Error: syntax error in /home/valerio/kmess/trunk/build/src/kmess_automoc.cpp.files |
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| 12:31.28 | annma | vpilo: first it should update qt-copy then kdesupport then kdelibs |
| 12:31.31 | yao_ziyuan | also, one most important question: where is the Quick Launch toolbar? |
| 12:31.41 | annma | kmess? |
| 12:31.51 | vpilo | annma: i'm using qt packages from OpenSuse 11.0, not qt-copy |
| 12:32.05 | annma | so what did you build? where is that kmess from? |
| 12:32.16 | annma | it's not a KDE module |
| 12:32.36 | vpilo | annma: yes, i'm a kmess developer, it's not part of kde but it uses kdelibs and kdebase |
| 12:32.55 | annma | so how does kdesvn-build fit there |
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| 12:34.02 | vpilo | i've tried updating my KDE4 installation from svn using kdesvn-build, and it failed almost every module after kdesupport with the error I've pasted; and now my kde4-based app won't compile, neither |
| 12:34.28 | annma | retry kdesupport |
| 12:34.37 | gkiagia | vpilo: probably broken automoc ? |
| 12:34.45 | annma | and your KDE4 installation: which one? |
| 12:35.07 | vpilo | i did that like 10 min ago, same result, it updated,built and installed,but everything after it just won't build |
| 12:35.15 | annma | probably kdesupport did not build and install |
| 12:35.23 | annma | vpilo: trunk or branch |
| 12:35.26 | vpilo | anma: i use trunk |
| 12:35.32 | vpilo | annma:i use trunk |
| 12:35.33 | annma | do it manually if the script fails |
| 12:35.40 | annma | get control of it |
| 12:35.45 | vpilo | Ok let me try :) |
| 12:35.50 | annma | first build kdesupport |
| 12:35.57 | annma | check if it installs! |
| 12:36.04 | annma | automoc is in kdesupport |
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| 12:36.17 | vpilo | gkiagia: my automoc4 is version 0.9.84 |
| 12:36.21 | vpilo | ok |
| 12:37.28 | vpilo | svn up reported no updated files |
| 12:37.35 | vpilo | i'm at rev 833827 |
| 12:38.12 | annma | so try kdelibs now |
| 12:38.23 | vpilo | building kdesupport atm |
| 12:38.31 | annma | rm the build dir to start clean |
| 12:38.35 | annma | for kdelibs |
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| 12:40.31 | vpilo | kdesupport is ok |
| 12:40.36 | vpilo | let's try with kdelibs |
| 12:41.01 | vpilo | non-fresh build first, or i'd have to wait too much time :P |
| 12:41.32 | vpilo | Error: syntax error in /home/valerio/kde4/build/kdelibs/kdeui/kdeui_automoc.cpp.files |
| 12:41.41 | vpilo | i'll try rebuilding kdeui only |
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| 12:41.53 | pinotree | nuke the builddir, and recreate it |
| 12:42.33 | annma | when was your last build of trunk vpilo |
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| 12:42.54 | vpilo | somewhere around 4 days ago |
| 12:43.18 | vpilo | maybe some more |
| 12:43.20 | annma | weird |
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| 12:43.40 | vpilo | hmmm KDE 4.1.60 (KDE 4.1.60 (KDE 4.2 >= 20080709)) |
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| 12:44.16 | vpilo | but the rev date won't update with a refresh build iirc, so it's surely newer |
| 12:47.07 | vpilo | no time to build everything from scratch, i'll delete kdesupport and kdelibs hoping in a compilation time inferior to one hour :D |
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| 12:47.23 | annma | no need to delete kdesupport |
| 12:47.30 | annma | if automoc is installed ok |
| 12:47.45 | vpilo | too late, duh :D |
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| 12:52.05 | martijn81 | sandsmark: how do i configure for disconnected imap? |
| 12:53.14 | sandsmark | martijn81: when you set up the account, you can select between imap, disconnected imap, pop, mailbox, etc. |
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| 12:55.10 | vpilo | Is it normal that while updating kdesupport, it reports errors about kdeplasmoids and amarok stuff? |
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| 12:55.19 | vpilo | not updating, compiling |
| 12:55.26 | annma | really not |
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| 12:55.33 | annma | vpilo: do it manually |
| 12:55.40 | annma | your script looks messed |
| 12:55.52 | annma | kdeplasmoids does not exist anymore |
| 12:55.56 | vpilo | what script? my .kdesvn-buildrc ? |
| 12:56.08 | annma | kdesvn-build |
| 12:56.19 | vpilo | it's the latest version IIRC |
| 12:56.30 | annma | well maybe you use it bad |
| 12:56.35 | a61 | Is there someone here knows about IMAC G3 computer |
| 12:56.35 | vpilo | it's probably its rc file which is outdated |
| 12:56.46 | annma | get support from the author then and send him the error |
| 12:58.16 | vpilo | well ok :\ i just can't figure out what could have screwed up so badly in at most one week of non-usage |
| 12:58.30 | mondini | hi, I couldn't compile kdeplayground-base in debian until I installed libhal-dev |
| 12:58.45 | mondini | should I add that to techbase? |
| 12:59.52 | martijn81 | sandsmark: done! hope it will do now :) |
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| 13:00.10 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 13:03.08 | verus | hello does kde have a way to input alt characters |
| 13:03.20 | verus | in gtk apps i can do ctrl+shift+U and put in the unicode number |
| 13:03.24 | verus | but not so in konsole |
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| 13:06.53 | vpilo | the hell with that, i'm building from scratch with the latest kdesvn-build |
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| 13:07.17 | vpilo | should I install qt-copy also? or can I go fine with opensuse 11.0's pkgs? |
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| 13:09.56 | Brklyn | Hi everyone! I have one pretty lame question.... kde 4.0 is running at startup conky... something I have only set up for my gnome desktop. I have looked in the .kde*/Autostart to see if there's any evidence of conky.... but there's nothing! Any hints as to how I can avoid this? |
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| 13:10.41 | vpilo | there's an Autostart module in systemsettings > advanced tab, try looking there |
| 13:10.42 | kriko | Brklyn: probably a broken session: ~/.kde4/share/config/session/ |
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| 13:12.24 | janis_ | I try to "Install New Widgets", button indicate that i hav done it, but widget does not show up in "Add Widgets" (opensSuse 11) |
| 13:12.24 | janis_ | I try to "Install New Widgets", button indicate that I have done it, but widget does not show up in "Add Widgets" (opensSuse 11,KDE: 4.00.98 (KDE 4.0.98 (4.1 RC1)) "release 7.1" |
| 13:12.24 | janis_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.12 | Brklyn | kriko, funny thing is that it popped up the first time I run it... I also get a nasty gnome-style border on my windows |
| 13:13.26 | kolla_ | where do I configure CRLs and OCSP in KDE3/Krypto? |
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| 13:14.27 | Brklyn | btw, I don't have a .kde4.0/share/config/session directory... |
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| 13:16.50 | kriko | kde4 should write it's settings to ~/.kde4 |
| 13:16.51 | kolla_ | I onlt for docs for how to configure kdepim/kmail with CRLs and OCSP, konqueror doesnt seem to be able to check validity of certificates |
| 13:16.59 | kriko | or probably depends on distro |
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| 13:17.09 | kolla_ | "I only found..." |
| 13:17.23 | sandsmark | =) |
| 13:17.44 | Pixeltime | will they ever fix the 'moving panel items' |
| 13:18.21 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: it is fixed |
| 13:18.33 | sandsmark | "long" time ago (at least many svn revisions =) |
| 13:18.38 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: upgrade to rc1 |
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| 13:20.02 | Pixeltime | I am using rc1, now I can move anything, cept system try icon set, it ALWAYS centers |
| 13:20.31 | Pixeltime | tray.. |
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| 13:21.35 | Pixeltime | tryed new panels, panels with nothing in them, left, right justtification, it ALLWAYS centers, or recenters when I try to move it to the right side |
| 13:24.16 | kriko | how to initiate widget moving inside panels? |
| 13:25.04 | kriko | I did upgraded packages, but can't move widgets inside panels |
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| 13:25.40 | tsukasa` | I wonder if there's a way to configure dashboard widgets in plasma already... |
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| 13:26.00 | edge | What is the program in kde, that lets you look at directories based on there size. Im missing like 10 gig, and its annoying. i wanna find it |
| 13:26.37 | sandsmark | edge: filelight |
| 13:26.58 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: click on the walnut-thingy (the icon for resizing/moving the panel), and then move stuff |
| 13:27.49 | edge | Thank you sandsmark |
| 13:28.01 | vpilo | what's in playground/base/plasma? extra plasmoids or dataengines which are not in kdeplasma-addons? |
| 13:28.25 | sandsmark | vpilo: plasmoids that are not finished |
| 13:28.43 | vpilo | sandsmark: adding it, tnx ^^ |
| 13:29.03 | Pixeltime | sandsmark: Yea I know all about that, it recenters after I move it |
| 13:29.13 | Pixeltime | thats the problem |
| 13:29.55 | Brklyn | I think I solved the problem... thanks anyway |
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| 13:33.51 | martijn81 | sandsmark: what is the difference btw? |
| 13:34.00 | vpilo | uhh i've started a fresh install with kdesvn-build, the first module it tried to get was "kdenonbeta", but the script complained it wasn't available on svn and removed it from the list.. but there's no"kdenonbeta" in my kdesvn-buildrc file! |
| 13:34.28 | sandsmark | martijn81: http://blog.linuxoss.com/2007/11/howto-configuring-kmail-with-gmail-imap-and-disconnected-imap/ |
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| 13:35.08 | vpilo | is that normal? :s |
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| 13:38.35 | thiago | visik7: kdenonbeta is OLD |
| 13:38.50 | thiago | visik7: kdenonbeta became kdeextragear-N which became extragear |
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| 13:39.23 | vpilo | tell my kdesvn-build 1.6.2, not me :D |
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| 13:41.13 | Trojaneyez | I have searched the net but have fallen short looking for a way to have a user's smb drives mounted at login and place the mnt points, in dolphins "Places" View. I know how to script the mounting portion, but getting them placed into Places View I haven't found yet. Any suggestions or clues? |
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| 13:42.42 | visik7 | thiago: ? |
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| 13:44.02 | vpilo | ah wrong paths, damn me, got the right one this time |
| 13:44.12 | martijn81 | k thanks |
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| 13:50.17 | edge | ok filelight wsan't quite what i was looking for but it was close, is there another file browser that can show me where all my hdd space wennt |
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| 13:58.48 | sandsmark | edge: there is the "file size view" included in konqueror |
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| 14:00.17 | edge | sandsmark: im trying to remember what app i used to use, it would draw a blob. and in that blob would be like all the folders, and htey would be as big as the files in them were |
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| 14:00.37 | edge | sandsmark: i have kde4.0.5 so if its something that is in 3.5 and not in 4.0 i gota build it |
| 14:01.21 | sandsmark | I think it's the konqueror thingy |
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| 14:01.50 | edge | sandsmark: how do i turn this mode on? |
| 14:02.08 | sandsmark | edge: in konqueror, go to View -> View Mode -> File size view |
| 14:02.12 | sandsmark | while viewing a folder |
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| 14:02.45 | sandsmark | hmm, thanks for reminding me, btw, .xsession-errors contained 22GB =/ |
| 14:02.53 | Pixeltime | Thats a cool view too ! |
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| 14:03.22 | Pixeltime | 22 gb of errors !! |
| 14:03.23 | edge | sandsmark: konqueror in kde4 doesn't have this feature |
| 14:03.27 | Pixeltime | Yee Haww |
| 14:03.27 | sandsmark | I guess something is failing: -rw------- 1 sandsmark users 23G 2008-07-17 16:03 .xsession-errors |
| 14:03.37 | sandsmark | edge: it might be new in 4.1 |
| 14:03.42 | sandsmark | edge: I use 4.1 rc1 |
| 14:03.46 | Pixeltime | its in rc1 |
| 14:04.08 | Pixeltime | but it does not include sandsmark's errors ;) |
| 14:04.24 | sandsmark | hmm, .xsession-errors is full of "kio_imap4(3598)/kio (kioslave) KIO::SlaveBase::error: error() called twice! Please fix the KIO slave." |
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| 14:05.45 | edge | sandsmark: well my distro wont put it in our tree till it become release (no rc/beta) |
| 14:06.18 | sandsmark | edge: ah, ok |
| 14:06.31 | sandsmark | edge: which distro? most distros have unofficial repos, and rc1 is rather stable |
| 14:06.38 | edge | Gentoo |
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| 14:06.53 | sandsmark | (and the buildsystem is already updated for .99 =) |
| 14:07.03 | sandsmark | edge: isn't it just hardmasked or sometihng? |
| 14:07.07 | edge | for some reason all the overlays are slacking and also making this policy not to include beta or rc |
| 14:07.09 | sandsmark | *something |
| 14:07.15 | bonsaikitten | edge: err, we have RC1 |
| 14:07.23 | bonsaikitten | and we had beta 1 and 2 |
| 14:07.25 | edge | sandsmark: 4.0.5 is the latest in the "tree" and yes its Hardmasked |
| 14:07.28 | sandsmark | edge: I heard there was some infighting, but I thought they sorted it out |
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| 14:07.41 | bonsaikitten | points edge at kdesvn-portage overlay and #gentoo-kde4-live |
| 14:08.09 | sandsmark | edge: I would highly suggest upgrading, even though it's not released, it's miles ahead =) |
| 14:08.26 | edge | bonsaikitten: is that the genkdesvn.mailstation.de overlay? |
| 14:08.31 | Pixeltime | I have RC1 in OpenSuse |
| 14:08.38 | bonsaikitten | edge: no, that one has no ebuilds |
| 14:08.42 | edge | sandsmark: i wanted rc1 for a while |
| 14:08.49 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: I have it on my kubuntu workstation and my arch laptop too =) |
| 14:08.54 | edge | bonsaikitten: thats the only kde4 overlay i knew about |
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| 14:09.15 | bonsaikitten | edge: yeah, we need better advertisments ;) but it's in layman |
| 14:09.19 | Pixeltime | kubuntu has it now in its 'end user' packages ? |
| 14:09.26 | Pixeltime | or have to add repos ? |
| 14:09.33 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: no, in a ppa, or whatever they call it |
| 14:09.41 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: look on kubuntu,org |
| 14:09.42 | sandsmark | *. |
| 14:10.03 | Pixeltime | yea, it was a mess, thats why I installed opensuse for now |
| 14:10.09 | sandsmark | ah, ok |
| 14:10.26 | Pixeltime | but I will go back when they get it as good as Opensuse has it |
| 14:10.30 | sandsmark | =) |
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| 14:10.57 | Pixeltime | give em 6 months ;) |
| 14:11.20 | bonsaikitten | radiates some evil gentoo propaganda |
| 14:11.25 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: bah, I was tired of release cycles, that's why I switched to arch =) |
| 14:11.42 | sandsmark | bonsaikitten: *high-five-rolling-releases* (or something :P) |
| 14:11.46 | Pixeltime | arch-enimies ;) |
| 14:11.57 | bonsaikitten | hehe |
| 14:12.12 | atreyu | Hello there! |
| 14:12.16 | sandsmark | well, debian sid is also a rolling release, according to my resident debian friend |
| 14:12.23 | sandsmark | atreyu: hi here! |
| 14:12.25 | atreyu | Can I use KDE 3.x with fedore 9? |
| 14:12.30 | Pixeltime | I think i have wipe-installed 4 times this week already |
| 14:12.32 | bonsaikitten | sandsmark: rolling along like a glacier? ;) |
| 14:12.37 | sandsmark | atreyu: try asking in #fedora |
| 14:12.43 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: rofl :p |
| 14:12.52 | sandsmark | bonsaikitten: sid is actually rather up to date =) |
| 14:13.04 | bonsaikitten | yeah, it has gotten a lot better |
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| 14:14.38 | gnumm | i use kde4.1rc1 |
| 14:14.44 | gnumm | what can i do that firefox also has the kde4 theme |
| 14:14.50 | gnumm | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.05 | sandsmark | gnumm: install the qt gtk style |
| 14:15.07 | sandsmark | which distro? |
| 14:15.15 | gnumm | kubuntu |
| 14:15.44 | gnumm | there are only engines in the repo |
| 14:16.01 | sandsmark | ask in #kubuntu, then, it's called kdemod4-gtk-kde4 here |
| 14:16.13 | gnumm | ok |
| 14:16.14 | gkiagia | gnumm: install gtk-qt-engine |
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| 14:16.33 | Pixeltime | Should I file this as a bug : IF Panel contains task manager System Tray = Movable, ELSE System Tray = Centered |
| 14:16.46 | gnumm | ah, i need gtk-qt-engine-kde4 |
| 14:16.52 | gkiagia | right |
| 14:16.52 | sandsmark | ah, ok =) |
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| 14:17.16 | Pixeltime | I need a THEN statment in there somewhere ;) |
| 14:17.17 | simontol | Hi, is there any way to apply oxygen theme to kde3 apps? (opensuse) |
| 14:17.23 | gnumm | and how do i change the size of the kde4 panel? |
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| 14:17.55 | sandsmark | simontol: uhm, the only way I can think of is using the qt gtk style for kde 4, and the gtk qt style for kde 3 |
| 14:17.55 | simontol | gnumm : kde4.1 RC1? kde4.0.x? |
| 14:18.01 | sandsmark | but it sounds like an ugly hack |
| 14:18.02 | gnumm | kde4.1rc1 |
| 14:18.13 | sandsmark | gnumm: click the orange blob on the side of the panel |
| 14:18.22 | gnumm | yes |
| 14:18.24 | sandsmark | gnumm: and then click and drag the edge of the thing that pops up |
| 14:18.38 | sandsmark | (mostly like resizing a window) |
| 14:18.41 | gnumm | ah thanks |
| 14:18.45 | gnumm | :) |
| 14:18.47 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 14:19.19 | gnumm | simontol: on kde-look.org are maybe some kde3 themes which look like kde4 |
| 14:19.24 | Pixeltime | We need a panel question answering bot |
| 14:19.50 | Pixeltime | wait, we have one, its name is sandsmark |
| 14:19.54 | sandsmark | Pixeltime: well, there should be a quiet, no-nonsense bot here with techbase search |
| 14:19.56 | sandsmark | :p |
| 14:20.27 | gnumm | something like "!panel" |
| 14:20.59 | Pixeltime | or #kde-panel ;) |
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| 14:21.22 | sandsmark | I have a supybot on our own channels, but I haven't really cared much about setting it up, so it's rather abused =p |
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| 14:22.56 | r3v | I have crazy question about quad monitor setup. Right now I'm using xinerama but it is painfully slow. Configuring as separate displays without xinerama, I get panel and window decoration on 1, panel with no window decorations on 2, and nothing on 3 and 4. My mouse works on all 4, but keyboard only on 1. My background is only on 1. Is there any way to have quad display, without xinerama, and make each display a virtual desktop? If not, anyone have good re |
| 14:23.04 | Pixeltime | what was that bot we had in #macintosh and in the #Beos channel, that thing had YEARS of knowledge |
| 14:23.32 | Pixeltime | and you could download its knowledgebase |
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| 14:24.13 | dfgas | how do i get the clock on kde4 to do 12hour? |
| 14:24.34 | Pixeltime | Configure Desktop |
| 14:25.05 | Pixeltime | Regional Settings |
| 14:25.19 | Pixeltime | Time and Dates |
| 14:25.42 | Pixeltime | set it to: pH:MM:SS AMPM |
| 14:25.47 | Pixeltime | logout |
| 14:26.31 | dfgas | brb |
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| 14:28.07 | dfgas | sweet thanks |
| 14:28.11 | Pixeltime | ;) |
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| 14:36.31 | r3v | join #xinerama |
| 14:36.50 | jazka | no thanks |
| 14:36.52 | r3v | missed /, ignore that |
| 14:36.56 | jazka | :) |
| 14:37.11 | kc8hfi | how do you unmount a usb stick in kde4? |
| 14:37.13 | sandsmark | :p |
| 14:37.21 | kc8hfi | it used to be on the removable media applet... |
| 14:37.23 | jazka | kc8hfi: just plug it in |
| 14:37.28 | jazka | and it mounts automaticly |
| 14:37.39 | sandsmark | kc8hfi: right click in dolphin? |
| 14:37.40 | jazka | I mean, the device notifier shows it |
| 14:37.41 | kc8hfi | jazka: yeah, that works, but how to unmount it |
| 14:37.45 | sandsmark | and I have it on my applet too |
| 14:37.59 | jazka | I'm blind, nvm |
| 14:38.03 | jazka | i read "mount" |
| 14:38.07 | kc8hfi | jazka: was looking for an option to safely remove it |
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| 14:38.26 | jazka | there's that eject button on device notifier |
| 14:38.31 | jazka | when you put your mouse on top of it |
| 14:38.40 | jazka | or just right click on dolphin, like sandsmark said |
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| 14:39.17 | kc8hfi | jazka: hmm. I don't wanna hafta launch dolphin everytime just to unmount it.. |
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| 14:40.07 | jazka | kc8hfi: how about the other way I said |
| 14:40.10 | jazka | device notifier |
| 14:40.46 | kc8hfi | jazka: i have that on the bar at the bottom. let me look for something about eject |
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| 14:41.35 | jazka | there should be an eject button, when you hover your mouse on top of the device |
| 14:42.11 | kc8hfi | jazka: hovering my mouse over the device isn't doing anything... |
| 14:42.20 | jazka | is it mounted then :P |
| 14:42.28 | kc8hfi | jazka: normal click or right click makes it launch dolphin. Yeah, its mounted |
| 14:43.18 | jazka | http://deadbeef.fiveforty.jp:8000/umount.png I have like that tho :o |
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| 14:44.09 | kc8hfi | and that little circle thing is the eject button, i'm guesing |
| 14:44.09 | jazka | on the right |
| 14:44.12 | jazka | yea |
| 14:44.23 | kc8hfi | let me drag out some moer usb stuff and plug them in to see what happens |
| 14:44.58 | jazka | and what's your kde4 version` |
| 14:45.11 | kc8hfi | 4.0.3 |
| 14:45.13 | maniel | hello |
| 14:45.29 | jazka | hmm, maybe it's not on that version then |
| 14:45.32 | jazka | I'm using trunk so |
| 14:45.32 | kc8hfi | hmm, it doesn't show that icon there. beats me, using dolphin for now will hafta do |
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| 14:46.35 | kc8hfi | I've used kde4 before, and I didn't like it. Giving it anothe try to see if it will grow on me. so far, it sucks |
| 14:47.06 | kc8hfi | jazka: what version of kde4 you running? |
| 14:47.21 | jazka | 4.1.60 |
| 14:47.27 | jazka | and it's on the 4.1 RC1 i'm sure |
| 14:47.49 | jazka | I suggest you trying out the 4.1 RC1, 4.0.x sucks yea |
| 14:47.52 | jazka | for end user |
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| 14:48.24 | kc8hfi | jazka: ok. I'm already in process of updating to 4.0.5, but I don't figure its gonna help |
| 14:48.28 | maniel | i'm long term kde user, when i was using kde3 i was able to change window focus with a scroll wheel without rising it, it's a habit now, is it possible to get such behaviour in kde4? |
| 14:48.47 | jazka | kc8hfi: not sure, I haven't used 4.0.x much |
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| 14:49.15 | vdv | hi all |
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| 14:51.43 | kc8hfi | jazka: thanks for the help and advice |
| 14:51.53 | jazka | np |
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| 14:52.38 | vdv | checkbox to switch on/off sub-pixel hinting ControlCentre->Fonts is disabled for me. why? |
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| 14:53.36 | khajex | hey.. how do i save my session with KDE? i want some programs to load at startup.. |
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| 14:53.44 | vdv | it's checked in, but disabled. i can't switch it. and i also feel that hinting is not really working, because fonts looks not really good |
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| 14:54.33 | kc8hfi | khajex: kde3 or kde4? |
| 14:54.40 | khajex | 3.5.9 |
| 14:55.02 | kc8hfi | khajex: control center, kde components, session manager |
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| 14:55.52 | maniel | will anybody help me with my scrollwheel focusing problem?:P |
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| 14:56.18 | vdv | and me with sub-pixel hinting.. |
| 14:56.20 | khajex | hmm, and if i wanna use console? is there some config file in .kde? |
| 14:56.50 | kc8hfi | khajex: I don't know what config file that stuff is stored in, umfortunately |
| 14:57.37 | khajex | :) |
| 14:57.49 | khajex | kc8hfi : Thanks for the help dude :) |
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| 14:58.03 | khajex | ill do it your way now.. |
| 14:58.18 | kc8hfi | khajex: I'm searching for the file... |
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| 14:59.23 | Kenjiro | is just testing quassel ;) |
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| 15:14.57 | Valentin_ | hello |
| 15:15.48 | jazka | hi |
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| 15:16.48 | Valentin_ | something speak sapnish here? |
| 15:17.08 | sandsmark | no ablo espanol |
| 15:17.10 | sandsmark | ~ |
| 15:17.11 | jazka | probably, but this channel is English |
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| 15:18.38 | Valentin_ | and? |
| 15:18.38 | Valentin_ | good for you |
| 15:18.38 | Valentin_ | i´m from uruguay and i speak English |
| 15:18.54 | jazka | great |
| 15:18.58 | jazka | so no need for Spanish then |
| 15:20.06 | Valentin_ | yes, but if somebody speak spanish... |
| 15:20.44 | jazka | and do you actually have some kde question? |
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| 15:24.46 | Valentin_ | do understand all? |
| 15:24.46 | Valentin_ | yes |
| 15:24.46 | Valentin_ | what program can i use for flac files? |
| 15:24.46 | Valentin_ | do you know? |
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| 15:25.47 | drivamgr | Do you want to playback flac or create it? |
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| 15:26.06 | Valentin_ | playback |
| 15:26.20 | jazka | amarok |
| 15:26.24 | jazka | for example |
| 15:26.31 | jazka | you just need the decoder |
| 15:26.35 | drivamgr | I am 99.9% sure kmplayer will play back flac, amarok will also |
| 15:27.00 | drivamgr | oops...sorry jazka - i was looking at keyboard... :) |
| 15:27.20 | Valentin_ | if it is in spanish, it´s good for me |
| 15:27.49 | Valentin_ | if not, thank |
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| 15:28.06 | drivamgr | I am pretty sure you should be able to localise anything which is installed. |
| 15:28.22 | drivamgr | I run my system in Icelandic and everything is localised! |
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| 15:29.49 | Valentin_ | is amarok in spanish or not? |
| 15:29.57 | drivamgr | On kmplayer if you install your spanish locale files, go to the settings menu and click on switch application language. When you restart, assuming you have localised your system in spanish, it will come up in spanish. |
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| 15:30.19 | drivamgr | I would assume its in spanish. Mine comes up in icelandic, so yours should come up in spanish |
| 15:30.55 | Valentin_ | ok, thank you |
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| 15:31.20 | drivamgr | If not, head back here and someone should be able to help you further. |
| 15:31.26 | drivamgr | In fact, give me one second. |
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| 15:31.42 | Valentin_ | what antivirus you recomended to me? |
| 15:32.06 | mani_ | hello.. |
| 15:32.16 | mani_ | I need a help from you people |
| 15:33.13 | mani_ | I have connected my bluetooth and I want to know how to redirect the audio to the bluetooth headset |
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| 15:35.02 | drivamgr | Valentin_: can you join #amarok and I will meet you in there? |
| 15:35.16 | drivamgr | They should be able to help you better than I can |
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| 15:35.32 | kc8hfi | can you configure the date format on the digital clock in kde4? |
| 15:36.36 | kc8hfi | I've used regional and language settings to change the format for everything else, and it doesn't seem to wanna work with that clock |
| 15:36.41 | Valentin_ | thank |
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| 15:37.33 | dyscoria | i'm compiling kde4. kdesupport must be compiled+installed first, but while some modules in /trunk/kdesupport have later revisions than /tags/module_name, others are much older (e.g. strigi). is that a problem? from where should i be pulling from to compile 4.1rc? thanks. |
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| 15:50.51 | dyscoria | ok think i've found my answer. /trunk is where i should pull from |
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| 15:53.41 | jtate | I'm running kde 4.1 rc1, and when kdm comes up everything looks fine, but when I try to start plasma it starts looking like this: http://people.rpath.com/~jtate/scrunchedplasma.png . Then when I try to start klipper or korgac, X crashes. Trying to run this in a KVM session. Anybody seen this before? |
| 15:53.42 | MrGrim | dyscoria: shh, don't stray off topic or you'll be banned |
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| 15:54.28 | jtate | kde 4.0 didn't do this. |
| 15:55.08 | mani_ | I have connected my bluetooth and I want to know how to redirect the audio to the bluetooth headset |
| 15:55.11 | fabrice_ | may someone help me in kde 4 rc1 please ? i have a full screen in grey when i start my session (due to simple-cssm i think) tks ;) |
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| 15:55.22 | mani_ | is there any way i can do it |
| 15:55.43 | unclemike | in kde 4l.1 RC1 how do i add firefox icon to the panel |
| 15:56.36 | unclemike | opps kde 4.1 RC1 not 41.1 |
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| 16:05.03 | atreyu | uhm |
| 16:05.19 | atreyu | how can i get the menus back in Konversation? |
| 16:05.24 | Sho_ | Ctrl+M |
| 16:05.29 | atreyu | oh! |
| 16:05.31 | Sho_ | or right-click the chat, and click "Show Menu Bar" |
| 16:05.33 | atreyu | thx =) |
| 16:05.36 | Sho_ | same in most KDE apps, fwiw |
| 16:05.59 | atreyu | well, i'm running it under gnome |
| 16:07.55 | atreyu | test |
| 16:07.59 | atreyu | good |
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| 16:14.32 | Viper550 | are there any distros with KDE 4.1 in their repos? |
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| 16:17.15 | jtate | Viper550: I have kde 4.1 as an addon to Foresight Linux |
| 16:17.19 | jtate | rc1 |
| 16:19.01 | Viper550 | jtate: in the repos, right? |
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| 16:22.52 | pusling | Viper550: debian has 4.1 in experimental repo. |
| 16:23.34 | jtate | Viper550: yes, in the repos |
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| 16:24.21 | wstephenson | Viper550: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 |
| 16:24.46 | wstephenson | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4:/Factory:/Desktop is the repo |
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| 16:27.13 | Ollie | How do I get rid of the cog image on the side of the k menu? |
| 16:27.20 | atreyu | hi ag |
| 16:27.22 | atreyu | ain |
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| 16:27.25 | atreyu | damn |
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| 16:28.00 | gnumm | hi |
| 16:28.29 | gnumm | i just installed kubuntu kde4 and upgraded to kde 4.0.98 |
| 16:28.48 | gnumm | i only have one design for my panel, called oxygen |
| 16:28.56 | gnumm | i suse i had much more default themes |
| 16:29.15 | gnumm | is there a apckage with these themes? |
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| 16:32.24 | Half-Left | gnumm: kdeplasma-addons you mean? |
| 16:32.59 | gnumm | they are installed |
| 16:33.07 | gnumm | should i logout and login? |
| 16:33.17 | Half-Left | Well you do get a number of themes |
| 16:33.42 | Bille | Ollie: kcontrol->desktop->panels->menus |
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| 16:37.51 | gnumm | did you know when you remove the "systemsettings" icon from the kickoff menu in kde4, you can't readd it, because after a fresh installation, it's only the "favorite" tab of kickoff, i can't find systemsettings anywhere else |
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| 16:39.06 | gnumm | maybe you should add "systemsettings" in the programs tab under system too |
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| 16:40.56 | gnumm | do you understand what i mean? :S |
| 16:41.11 | Half-Left | it's in Computer |
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| 16:42.06 | gnumm | uh right, i just see it here in kubuntu, i guess it isn#t there in opensuse 11 |
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| 16:45.16 | ncfi1013_ | hoe do i burn a regular dvd in k3b that is not a video dvd or data dvd |
| 16:46.18 | Half-Left | Whats a regular DVD if it's not data? |
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| 16:46.37 | TheSimkin | video |
| 16:47.11 | Viper550 | nm, updating my Kubuntu to it |
| 16:47.29 | ncfi1013_ | i just want one file to spread across a whole dvd and play on generic dvd player as if it were a dvd you buy in a store |
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| 16:49.59 | tictric | ncfi1013_, if you got the right file you just need to create the right directory structure on the dvd and your player will recognise and play it |
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| 16:50.18 | tictric | therefore it's an ordinary data dvd that happens to play a video |
| 16:50.35 | tictric | if you don't mind googlin for that |
| 16:50.36 | ncfi1013_ | how do i do that |
| 16:50.49 | tictric | there's tutorials en masse |
| 16:51.29 | ncfi1013_ | where? provide links? |
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| 16:52.07 | tictric | I have none at hand. Sorry. There might even be a channel somewhere where they know it by heart |
| 16:52.50 | tictric | wonders if it would be *by* or *from* heart |
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| 16:55.28 | ncfi1013_ | it's "by" heart |
| 16:55.35 | Half-Left | tictric: know it "off by heart" |
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| 17:01.37 | Ollie | How do I make the Kmenu icons larger? |
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| 17:03.37 | asoot | hello |
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| 17:16.10 | sandsmark | asoot: I would imagine some ugly lib preloading |
| 17:16.35 | sandsmark | asoot: what do you want it for? |
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| 17:18.39 | alediaferia | asoot: or maybe using some dbus connection if konqueror allows.. |
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| 17:19.03 | thiago | you have to modify khtml |
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| 17:26.00 | asoot | sandsmark: i don't know if it's the best way with konqueror, but it was my first idea ;) i want to gather infos about elements i click on. when i click on "submit" i want infos like this: type=submit, value=Send name=Submit. same for nearly all html-form-elements |
| 17:26.22 | sandsmark | asoot: would be easier to just sniff all http-traffic, then |
| 17:26.35 | alediaferia | lol!! |
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| 17:30.20 | Viper550 | fired up KDE 4.1, looks alot nicer |
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| 17:31.05 | eddiep | hi everybody |
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| 17:31.32 | asoot | no, would be nice to have it live, cause i want to have other events when for example pressing STRG while clicking. i want to have a web-macro-program to create/play macros. the thing i need is randomness (select radio1 OR radio2 OR radio3). so when i do STRG + CLICK CLICK CLICK i want clickedtag1 OR clickedtag2 OR ..3 |
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| 17:31.53 | eddiep | i just installed kde 4.1 rc 1 |
| 17:32.02 | eddiep | and I have some problems with it |
| 17:32.38 | eddiep | maybe others already asked but it seems I following questions: |
| 17:32.47 | eddiep | hot to resize "Panel" in hight? |
| 17:32.52 | eddiep | *How |
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| 17:33.37 | pinotree | right click on the panel â configure panel â drag the handle |
| 17:34.13 | eddiep | pinotree: I tryed, i'll try again ... let's see |
| 17:34.32 | Viper550 | that's nifty |
| 17:34.48 | eddiep | I don't have configure panel |
| 17:34.53 | eddiep | only Panel Settings |
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| 17:35.14 | eddiep | and I can only move the elements in the panel |
| 17:35.20 | eddiep | or resize it horizontaly |
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| 17:35.31 | eddiep | no way to drag it verticaly |
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| 17:36.01 | pinotree | the border of the panel configuration is the resize handle... |
| 17:36.59 | sandsmark | eddiep: you can move the small triangles |
| 17:37.09 | eddiep | hahaha |
| 17:37.12 | eddiep | that worked |
| 17:37.12 | sandsmark | (I think you switched vertically/horizontally) |
| 17:37.14 | sandsmark | =) |
| 17:37.19 | sandsmark | ;) |
| 17:37.24 | eddiep | pinotree: i would never think about that |
| 17:37.59 | eddiep | I have other problems too ... at least this one was easy to solve ... lot of things are different |
| 17:38.10 | eddiep | with 8 years linux experience i can't find things |
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| 17:39.38 | eddiep | Problem no.2, setting from "Configure System" doesn't apply, for example, i've set almost all effects ON. No change. Tryed to restart X, still nothing applyed. Same with window decorations. Whatever decoration I choose I have some default uggly something. |
| 17:39.56 | sandsmark | are you sure you are using kwin? |
| 17:39.57 | eddiep | On the other hand, Styles (buttons, scrollbars etc.) applyes |
| 17:40.22 | eddiep | sandsmark: where can I check? |
| 17:40.37 | eddiep | sandsmark: I had compiz enabled before with emerald |
| 17:40.55 | eddiep | sandsmark: maybe something went wrong on first start / and / or / install time |
| 17:40.57 | sandsmark | iDunno, alt+f2 and click on the monitor? |
| 17:41.08 | sandsmark | look for compiz |
| 17:41.15 | eddiep | compiz is OFF now |
| 17:42.09 | eddiep | sandsmark: i have a kwin process running |
| 17:42.19 | eddiep | nothing with compiz |
| 17:42.35 | sandsmark | well, then I really don't know |
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| 17:42.43 | eddiep | sandsmark: but I think, it may be the kwin from the kde3.5.9 I also have installed... it's that possible? |
| 17:42.53 | sandsmark | probably |
| 17:42.57 | sandsmark | what distro? |
| 17:43.01 | eddiep | mandriva |
| 17:43.13 | eddiep | with kde4 installed from the mandriva rpms |
| 17:43.23 | sandsmark | mm, ok, haven't tried mandriva |
| 17:43.48 | eddiep | ok, mandriva is just another distro |
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| 17:44.03 | eddiep | where in KDE4 can I change the window manager ... to Kwin |
| 17:44.52 | asoot | does nobody have an idea for my program? |
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| 17:45.06 | Viper550 | I download a plasma style from hot stuff, yet it doesn't appear in my list |
| 17:45.21 | sandsmark | Viper550: I think it's a bit broken |
| 17:45.27 | eddiep | yes |
| 17:45.29 | Viper550 | how I installed manually? |
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| 17:45.35 | eddiep | it's not workin here too |
| 17:46.07 | eddiep | sandsmark: I found the place for window manager |
| 17:46.13 | eddiep | I have 3 options |
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| 17:46.24 | eddiep | kwin(default) selected |
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| 17:46.38 | eddiep | compiz costum |
| 17:46.40 | eddiep | and |
| 17:46.42 | eddiep | compiz |
| 17:46.50 | eddiep | should I try compiz? |
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| 17:47.14 | eddiep | that "compiz" haz anything to do with Compiz-Fusion ??? |
| 17:47.20 | thiago | kwin is the default Window Manager for KDE |
| 17:47.24 | thiago | since KDE 2.0 |
| 17:47.41 | eddiep | thiago: ok ok, but my kde4 loads the kde3 window manager |
| 17:48.03 | eddiep | and I want to try the special effects :) |
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| 17:48.29 | eddiep | so |
| 17:48.31 | eddiep | anyone |
| 17:48.33 | eddiep | any ideea? |
| 17:48.38 | thiago | stop flooding |
| 17:48.49 | thiago | how did you install KDE? |
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| 17:49.02 | eddiep | from the 4.1 rc1 rpms |
| 17:49.04 | thiago | can you find the kwin executable from KDE 4? |
| 17:49.11 | eddiep | now looking |
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| 17:52.34 | eddiep | i think it's /usr/bin/kwin4 |
| 17:52.36 | Guest79457 | hello |
| 17:52.49 | pinotree | no, that's a game :) |
| 17:52.52 | guest_ | hey ian! |
| 17:52.52 | thiago | kwin4 is a KDE 3 game |
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| 17:53.02 | thiago | KWin from KDE 4 is simply called "kwin" |
| 17:53.22 | eddiep | I have a kwin executable in the same folder |
| 17:53.33 | thiago | make sure it's the KDE 4 one |
| 17:53.39 | eddiep | but i'm not shure if it's kde 4 or 3 |
| 17:53.43 | allygurl | :-) |
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| 17:53.54 | thiago | run it with --version |
| 17:54.00 | thiago | it'll tell you what version it is |
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| 17:54.29 | eddiep | it's 3.5.9 |
| 17:54.36 | thiago | that's your problem |
| 17:54.39 | thiago | upgrade it to KDE 4 |
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| 17:55.09 | eddiep | that will not destroy my kde3.5.9 install? |
| 17:55.20 | thiago | depends on how you do it |
| 17:55.33 | JAY | hi |
| 17:56.11 | eddiep | I found the kde 4 version |
| 17:56.33 | Viper550 | okay, to install a plasma theme, where do I put it? |
| 17:56.35 | eddiep | it's in /opt/kde4/bin/ |
| 17:57.10 | eddiep | thiago: isn't there a way to tell KDE4 to use that one? (from /opt/kde4/bin/) |
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| 17:58.46 | thiago | eddiep: yes, KDE by default starts that one |
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| 17:58.56 | thiago | but, to be sure, add this to the script that calls startkde: |
| 17:59.01 | thiago | export KDEWM=/opt/kde4/bin/kwin |
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| 18:07.22 | eddiep | thiago: and what script is that? |
| 18:07.44 | eddiep | thiago: I mean what script starts kde4? KDM? |
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| 18:09.35 | jtate | eddiep: startkde starts kde |
| 18:10.49 | eddiep | jtate: thanks |
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| 18:11.46 | bittin | http://static.pici.se/pictures/sdCbvBtqM.png =) |
| 18:15.15 | Viper550 | are thgere any good kwin4 themes yet? |
| 18:15.41 | eddiep | restarting X ... i'l be back with other questions |
| 18:15.43 | sandsmark | sculpture is kinda nice |
| 18:15.50 | MuJ | skulpture<3 |
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| 18:16.48 | picca | just tried the live cd for KDE 4.1 RC1 - i can't believe how good it is |
| 18:16.55 | picca | it really has come on since 4.0 |
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| 18:18.09 | Kenjiro | afternoon |
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| 18:24.21 | zigovr | hi all, when I click on "new session" in the kde menu, what command does it run ? I'd like to do it manually since with Xgl it is not proposed in the menu |
| 18:25.25 | zigovr | basically, how can I launch a new kdm login prompt on a new X server ? |
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| 18:26.57 | chx | hi. i am looking for a KDE RSS reader (really, just twitter would be enough) which can show popup windows like kopete does. |
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| 18:28.58 | lng | hi! how do i manually save session? |
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| 18:30.10 | Viper550 | okay, how do you move widgets on the panels? |
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| 18:30.55 | Half-Left | Viper550: Panel settings |
| 18:30.59 | Viper550 | on KDE3 you had these little thumbs that came up |
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| 18:31.08 | Viper550 | oh |
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| 18:32.29 | Half-Left | chx: KDE4 widget? |
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| 18:33.17 | lng | ow do i manually save session? |
| 18:33.49 | Half-Left | lng: System settings KDE4 |
| 18:34.01 | Half-Left | Kcontrol KDE3 |
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| 18:36.37 | lng | Half-Left: i have 3.5. i can see that in Control Center / KDE Components / Session Manager, but thre's just radio button for this option |
| 18:37.03 | lng | Half-Left: how to tell KDE what to save? |
| 18:37.05 | Half-Left | right |
| 18:37.11 | lng | Half-Left: conf? |
| 18:37.21 | Half-Left | It should give you the option as I remember when you logout |
| 18:37.40 | Half-Left | But I'm not sure |
| 18:37.55 | lng | Half-Left: ah, ok. will see that later on) |
| 18:37.57 | lng | tnx |
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| 18:59.34 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: can you believe I downloaded, compiled, installed KDE 4.1rc1... and barely used it yet :( |
| 18:59.43 | Kenjiro | I can't even complain much *LOL* |
| 19:00.14 | Half-Left | Why not? |
| 19:00.39 | Kenjiro | time |
| 19:00.40 | Kenjiro | :( |
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| 19:02.20 | Kenjiro | family taking too much time *LOL* |
| 19:02.52 | annma | tell me about it |
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| 19:04.24 | danw | hi guys, couple of questions |
| 19:04.31 | Half-Left | :/ |
| 19:04.32 | danw | first off, I seem to have lost window thumbnails after updating my KDE4.1 |
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| 19:05.01 | danw | is there a new way to turn them on or something? Or should I file a bug |
| 19:05.18 | Half-Left | annma: If you play games watch in 4.2 trunk :) |
| 19:05.57 | Half-Left | dani_l: Dont work, Pretty sure it's a known issue |
| 19:05.59 | annma | :) |
| 19:06.05 | Half-Left | danw: ^ |
| 19:06.06 | danw | ok cheers |
| 19:06.07 | danw | second |
| 19:06.15 | danw | is there a way to remove a plasma "activity" |
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| 19:06.19 | danw | or does this not exist |
| 19:06.26 | danw | I've ended up with about 14 |
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| 19:06.59 | Half-Left | annma: Kbreakout getting a new default theme :p |
| 19:07.09 | annma | :)) |
| 19:07.51 | Half-Left | see's the aliens coming |
| 19:07.57 | level1 | should I still be having problems with konqueror crashing while web browsing? |
| 19:08.01 | level1 | I have a backtrace |
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| 19:09.09 | level1 | I can't post it on b.k.o because thats the site that causes konqueror to crash... what should i do? |
| 19:09.17 | Half-Left | level1: What site, version? |
| 19:09.22 | Viper550 | get Firefox, lol |
| 19:09.25 | level1 | bugs.kde.org |
| 19:09.45 | Half-Left | Site it crashes |
| 19:09.46 | level1 | Viper550: cause, you know the kde project doesn't support konqueror anymore or anything |
| 19:09.53 | level1 | whta? |
| 19:09.59 | level1 | http://bugs.kde.org |
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| 19:10.11 | annma | level1: it's fine for me |
| 19:10.17 | danw | and me |
| 19:10.20 | annma | I use it quite a lot in Konqueror |
| 19:10.35 | Half-Left | Same here, never crashes nowdays |
| 19:10.36 | level1 | have you gone through the process of reporting a bug? thats when it crashes for me |
| 19:10.43 | level1 | hmmm.... |
| 19:10.43 | Half-Left | RC1 is very stable |
| 19:10.51 | level1 | yes, thats what i'm using |
| 19:11.09 | Half-Left | level1: What site does it crash on? |
| 19:11.29 | level1 | Half-Left: in response to What site does it crash on: http://bugs.kde.org |
| 19:11.53 | Half-Left | crashes on bugs site lol |
| 19:12.08 | annma | level1: just by entering this URL? |
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| 19:12.14 | annma | or further on? |
| 19:12.16 | level1 | oh, I see in the bug report, its a scim issue |
| 19:12.44 | level1 | further on... as I go through the wizard, it will crash eventially |
| 19:13.00 | level1 | god damn scim... who the hell maintains it? |
| 19:13.19 | annma | scim? what language do you use? |
| 19:13.22 | level1 | i have like three showstopper bugs against scim now |
| 19:13.22 | Viper550 | kubuntu uses a GTK one |
| 19:13.38 | level1 | I'm learning japanese |
| 19:13.56 | Nyle | hi |
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| 19:14.04 | Nyle | how can i learn japanese? |
| 19:14.12 | Kenjiro | Nyle: studying? |
| 19:14.20 | Nyle | ok |
| 19:14.21 | level1 | lol |
| 19:14.31 | level1 | follow the guy with the japanese sounding name |
| 19:14.33 | Viper550 | any way to make Dolphin require doubleclicks? |
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| 19:14.58 | level1 | Viper550: it should work correctly if you choose the option in system settings |
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| 19:15.44 | seele | is there a run command widget? |
| 19:16.05 | Nyle | how can i use kde4 for test? |
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| 19:16.37 | Viper550 | <level1> where exactly is it? |
| 19:16.48 | Viper550 | the option in system settings, not system settings, k? |
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| 19:17.06 | danw | Viper550: Configure desktop, keyboard and mouse, mouse |
| 19:17.30 | Viper550 | ooohhhhh |
| 19:17.49 | Nyle | kubuntu hurdy |
| 19:17.58 | danw | I've always thought that was a little bit of an odd place to have it |
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| 19:20.05 | Viper550 | that norway color scheme kinda reminds me of ClearLooks |
| 19:20.13 | Nyle | so |
| 19:20.16 | Nyle | anyone |
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| 19:20.38 | piXelshooter | hi. Is it possible to make Kate highlight <%...%> as PHP, too? Kate only highlights the PHP-style tags, but I'd like to use the ASP ones? |
| 19:20.50 | Viper550 | <Nyle> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop-kde4 or something like that |
| 19:21.01 | Viper550 | there's info on the Kubuntu home page |
| 19:21.26 | Viper550 | all you need to do is add something to your sources.list, update, then install a specific metapackage |
| 19:21.45 | danw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:24.06 | danw | _without_ hacking a config file |
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| 19:24.21 | Nyle | ok |
| 19:24.24 | Nyle | thanks |
| 19:24.51 | Kenjiro | since i don't know what is a plasma activity.... |
| 19:25.26 | danw | Kenjiro: KDE4, go to the plasma thing at the top right, zoom out, then add new activity |
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| 19:26.03 | Kenjiro | danw: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ok |
| 19:26.16 | Kenjiro | talking about that... |
| 19:26.32 | Kenjiro | is it possible to place that "Plasma thing" on another place? |
| 19:26.37 | danw | ah I've found it |
| 19:26.43 | Kenjiro | I like to use the "taskbar" on the top of the screen |
| 19:26.46 | danw | but in the menu it clls it a "desktop" |
| 19:26.49 | danw | not an activity |
| 19:26.52 | danw | this is an error |
| 19:27.22 | danw | desktops are the collections of windows, activities are collections of plasmoids |
| 19:28.17 | level1 | does anyone here use scim? |
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| 19:28.21 | level1 | any version? |
| 19:28.48 | Kenjiro | no thanks |
| 19:29.23 | level1 | Kenjiro: have a hatred of scim |
| 19:29.26 | level1 | ? |
| 19:29.31 | Kenjiro | quite like that |
| 19:29.52 | Kenjiro | after I installed it on my distro (by means of an upgrade) many bad stuff happened "to me" |
| 19:30.03 | Kenjiro | like the keyboard going crazy, etc |
| 19:30.16 | Kenjiro | so I uninstalled it and blacklisted it FOREVER hehehe |
| 19:30.21 | level1 | Kenjiro: it might be possible to remove the "cashew" as its called... but it is not possible to change its position, I have looked at the code and it is hardcoded |
| 19:30.40 | Kenjiro | that's bad :( |
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| 19:30.52 | Kenjiro | the "cashew" should be... 'movable' |
| 19:30.52 | level1 | Kenjiro: I know what you mean... I've installed scim several times and everytime I've been very unhappy |
| 19:30.57 | annma | it will |
| 19:31.03 | annma | just give us time |
| 19:31.12 | annma | Roma was not built in 1 day |
| 19:31.14 | level1 | Kenjiro: how do you write in japanese? |
| 19:31.15 | Kenjiro | annma: I'm already happy then :) |
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| 19:31.26 | Kenjiro | level1: I don't *LOL* |
| 19:31.30 | level1 | April 26, 706 BC: rome built |
| 19:31.31 | Kenjiro | is Brazilian |
| 19:31.34 | level1 | oh lol |
| 19:31.46 | level1 | do you type in .... portugese? |
| 19:31.50 | Kenjiro | annma: Rome was built... wich C, C++...? |
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| 19:31.57 | Kenjiro | level1: portuguese, english... |
| 19:32.02 | Kenjiro | bad spanish... |
| 19:32.09 | level1 | how do you type in portugueses? |
| 19:32.47 | Kenjiro | using the same keyboard I use for english *grin * |
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| 19:32.56 | annma | I'll go to Brazil in October Kenjiro |
| 19:33.06 | Kenjiro | annma: which region? |
| 19:33.19 | annma | Belo Horizonte |
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| 19:34.12 | Kenjiro | hmmmmm we call that region "southeast" |
| 19:34.21 | Kenjiro | haven't been there yet |
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| 19:34.32 | Kenjiro | annma: a work trip? |
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| 19:35.53 | Kenjiro | well, be back later |
| 19:35.56 | Kenjiro | is away |
| 19:37.47 | annma | visiting my daughter |
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| 19:43.28 | picca | KDE 4.1 RC1 is looking good |
| 19:43.35 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 19:43.53 | rindolf | How do I set a different wallpaper to each virtual desktop in latest KDE-4.1.x? |
| 19:45.20 | pinotree | you cannot |
| 19:45.56 | danw | rin |
| 19:46.07 | danw | rindolf: wallpapers are per activity now, not per desktop |
| 19:46.37 | rindolf | danw: what? |
| 19:46.42 | rindolf | danw: what do you mean? |
| 19:46.49 | rindolf | danw: what is activity? |
| 19:47.33 | danw | rindolf: when you go to the cashew (thing in the top right), click zoom out |
| 19:47.37 | danw | then click add new activity |
| 19:47.49 | danw | you get a new activity, or "plasma desktop" |
| 19:47.58 | danw | it's a desktop which doesn't hold windows, but plasmoids instead |
| 19:48.07 | danw | you can assign a different wallpaper to this |
| 19:48.19 | Shaman` | nice... debian has a dbndns fork of djbdns |
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| 19:49.20 | rindolf | danw: it disappears too quickly. |
| 19:49.28 | rindolf | danw: I cannot reach the "Add Activitiy". |
| 19:49.50 | danw | rindolf: I know, it can be a jammy bugger |
| 19:49.59 | danw | but that's how (in theory) you do it |
| 19:49.59 | Battousai | a what? |
| 19:50.35 | Battousai | first i've heard that term. i think i'll incorporate it into my dialog |
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| 19:51.15 | rindolf | danw: I see. |
| 19:51.27 | rindolf | danw: how can I switch activities automatically? |
| 19:51.30 | danw | Battousai: what country are you from |
| 19:51.35 | danw | rindolf: I have no idea, |
| 19:51.37 | rindolf | danw: I now can choose between two wallpapers. |
| 19:51.43 | Battousai | danw: en_US |
| 19:51.48 | danw | you can zoom out and drag and zoom in again |
| 19:51.58 | danw | Battousai: jammy bugger is kind of a UK thing :-) |
| 19:52.03 | Battousai | ah, queen's english |
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| 19:52.36 | Battousai | i can confuse some yankees with it, even better |
| 19:52.47 | danw | quite, but I'm from "up north" where we speak a different english :-) |
| 19:53.00 | danw | I go to university in the south |
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| 19:56.46 | danw | anyway |
| 19:56.49 | danw | another question |
| 19:56.58 | danw | how d oyou get the latex plugin in kopete working? |
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| 19:58.23 | rindolf | danw: I was familiar with jammy bugger and I'm ISraeli. |
| 19:58.35 | danw | ah ok there you go then |
| 20:00.03 | danw | but still, anyone ever got ANY plugin in kopete to work apart from OTR? |
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| 20:06.37 | rindolf | Hmmm... Konqi 4 crashed when I hit the back button. |
| 20:07.05 | bpun | rindolf, hahahah |
| 20:07.19 | rindolf | Reminds me of that Joel quote. |
| 20:07.42 | rindolf | BTW, how do I restrict the windows' list to the ones in the current virtual desktop? |
| 20:08.42 | bpun | rindolf, thats why i use just 1 desktop hahahahh |
| 20:08.50 | bpun | rindolf, maybe there's a plugin for that.. dunno |
| 20:09.00 | rindolf | bpun: hmmm.... |
| 20:09.41 | danw | rindolf: this is possible by mouse over the taskbar, CTRL + S |
| 20:09.44 | danw | for settings |
| 20:09.57 | danw | and choosing "show only windows from current desktop" |
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| 20:10.34 | rindolf | danw: Ctrl+S does not work. |
| 20:10.39 | rindolf | Ctrl+S is save. |
| 20:10.46 | gkiagia | right click the taskbar... |
| 20:10.57 | danw | that doesn't work |
| 20:10.58 | danw | for definite |
| 20:11.25 | gkiagia | but you have to right click on an edge where there is no window button |
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| 20:11.41 | gkiagia | between the taskbar and the systray |
| 20:11.50 | sns | Can kde-kiosk-tools lock down KDE so hard that people can't do anything but start programs from the icons on the desktop? |
| 20:12.14 | rindolf | gkiagia: thanks. |
| 20:12.16 | rindolf | gkiagia: working now. |
| 20:12.23 | rindolf | gkiagia: it should also be in the control centre. |
| 20:13.14 | bpun | sns, where is kde-kiosk-tools, is that a command? |
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| 20:14.40 | sns | bpun, it's a tool for locking down kde |
| 20:14.57 | ncfi1013_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.08 | danw | sns: I believe you could remove the panel, and set it to stopthem running commands |
| 20:15.18 | bpun | what's the command to kde4's control center? |
| 20:15.47 | sns | danw: , sounds good |
| 20:15.49 | sns | kcontrol? |
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| 20:16.11 | danw | apparently not |
| 20:16.12 | danw | ... |
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| 20:16.55 | bpun | i have kcontrol-edit but not kcontrol (no settings show up in it) |
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| 20:17.16 | gnumm | is it possible that ark-kde4 isn't really finished yet? |
| 20:17.18 | bpun | (kcontroledit works, but i dont think it does anything) |
| 20:17.27 | gnumm | i can't open zip packages |
| 20:18.39 | bpun | gnumm, with what program? |
| 20:18.47 | gnumm | ark |
| 20:20.08 | gnumm | does ark support .zip packages? |
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| 20:20.37 | bittin | gnumm: yepp :) |
| 20:20.57 | gnumm | hmm |
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| 20:24.29 | ncfi1013_ | thanx i dont really understand everything i was told but it sounds like it will be of help |
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| 20:30.48 | Alumin | I'm using the "Windows" theme for KDM, but it only looks like XP after you log in, while KDE is loading...should the actual greeter login screen be themed as well? |
| 20:31.10 | N9NU | is there anyway to move/drag icons along the taskbar/panel ? For some reason everything is on the left and is starting to tick me off |
| 20:31.44 | Alumin | middle-click drag |
| 20:32.32 | N9NU | when i press the scroll button all it does is freeze.....will see if it is setup to use it |
| 20:33.12 | rindolf | Hi all! |
| 20:33.20 | N9NU | guess not |
| 20:33.37 | rindolf | On KDE-4.1.x on Mandriva Cooker - how do I play audio in non-KDE applications? |
| 20:33.39 | N9NU | i swear there was an option to move |
| 20:33.55 | Alumin | hmm...that's odd, the hardware auto-detect should have picked up your scroll wheel |
| 20:34.14 | N9NU | yeah lemme check that agn |
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| 20:34.19 | Alumin | if you click on the little arrow in the applet handle you can move it |
| 20:34.40 | Half-Left | rindolf: Use Open with option |
| 20:35.16 | N9NU | oh i didnt mean on the deskop |
| 20:35.17 | N9NU | sory |
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| 20:35.27 | N9NU | i ment on the taskbar at the bottom |
| 20:35.39 | N9NU | i just wish to move the "K" button to the right |
| 20:35.46 | N9NU | oops left instead of the right |
| 20:35.46 | Alumin | yeah I know |
| 20:35.52 | rindolf | Half-Left: What??? |
| 20:35.56 | Half-Left | What version? |
| 20:36.01 | Alumin | mine moves when I middle-click drag it |
| 20:36.05 | N9NU | hmm |
| 20:36.11 | Alumin | I also get a move option when I right-click on it |
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| 20:36.25 | rindolf | Half-Left: I want Firefox or xine or mplayer or whatever to play audio. |
| 20:36.37 | N9NU | yeah...i had that before i upgraded to KDE v |
| 20:36.45 | N9NU | lets see |
| 20:37.00 | N9NU | Version 4.00.83 (KDE 4.0.83 (KDE 4.1 Beta2) |
| 20:37.02 | Half-Left | rindolf: Right click the file, Open With and there is a option to keep that app default |
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| 20:37.13 | rindolf | Half-Left: that's not what I asked. |
| 20:37.25 | N9NU | i see RC 1 is out..i should upgrade |
| 20:37.38 | rindolf | Half-Left: when I type "xine myfile.ogg" at the commane line, it cannot play any sound and gets stcuk. |
| 20:38.04 | rindolf | Half-Left: I'm asking how I can play sound so several KDE and non-KDE apps will play sound simultaenouasly. |
| 20:38.13 | Half-Left | rindolf: You want to sue a non KDE apps to play ogg's right? |
| 20:38.23 | Half-Left | use* |
| 20:38.48 | rindolf | Half-Left: from the command line. |
| 20:38.51 | rindolf | Half-Left: no!!!! |
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| 20:39.05 | Half-Left | Well thats what you type and said |
| 20:39.05 | rindolf | Half-Left: I want to use Amarok to play oggggs noramlly. |
| 20:39.11 | N9NU | smart updating to kde rc1 to fix prob |
| 20:39.16 | rindolf | Half-Left: I: 1. Start a konsole. |
| 20:39.22 | rindolf | Half-Left: 2. Type "xine myfile.ogg" |
| 20:39.32 | rindolf | Half-Left: 3. Wait for xine to play sound. |
| 20:39.36 | rindolf | Half-Left: 4. it doesn't play. |
| 20:39.43 | rindolf | Half-Left: 5. I want it to play. |
| 20:40.10 | sns | Half-Life 2. Revenge of G-Man |
| 20:40.12 | pinotree | rindolf: 6. we cannot help about non-kde applications |
| 20:40.17 | Half-Left | ok, but it's hardly a KDE issue |
| 20:40.22 | rindolf | Half-Left: it is too. |
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| 20:40.59 | Half-Left | Since when is xine a kDE app? |
| 20:41.10 | rindolf | Half-Left: it's not. |
| 20:41.17 | Half-Left | exactly |
| 20:41.17 | rindolf | But I expect my KDE desktop to be functional. |
| 20:41.26 | sns | rindolf: are you a Mac user? |
| 20:41.28 | sns | you sure sound like one |
| 20:41.32 | pinotree | kde cannot fix non-kde applications |
| 20:41.36 | rindolf | sns: no, |
| 20:41.38 | N9NU | heh |
| 20:41.44 | rindolf | sns: I'm using MAndriva Cooker. |
| 20:41.53 | rindolf | pinotree: but it worked fine on KDE 3. |
| 20:41.58 | pinotree | and? |
| 20:42.02 | bpun | there a way to choose a small font for the digital clock? its TOO BIGG! |
| 20:42.03 | rindolf | I could play sound from mplayer nad xine, etc. |
| 20:42.06 | pinotree | rindolf: #mandriva please |
| 20:42.11 | rindolf | pinotree: OK. |
| 20:42.13 | N9NU | kde 4 is NOT stable |
| 20:43.15 | Half-Left | N9NU: Nether was 3 in early stages |
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| 20:44.03 | N9NU | true, but when you upgrade to 4.x, dont expect everything to work all the time |
| 20:44.05 | Half-Left | Konqueror is a damn site more stable in 4.1 than it every has been |
| 20:44.19 | Half-Left | ever* |
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| 20:45.14 | Half-Left | Considering how many people moan about FIrefox crashing |
| 20:46.09 | rindolf | Where is Kaffeine in KDE 4? |
| 20:46.19 | bpun | does 7zip have a gui for kde? |
| 20:46.19 | igungor | crashing and slow and sometime never starts, i dont want to start a flame but konqueror kicks arse |
| 20:46.19 | rindolf | Or something I can use to play media from the command line? |
| 20:47.13 | Half-Left | bpun: Any archiever will support it if you have the package installed |
| 20:47.16 | N9NU | yes |
| 20:47.18 | N9NU | ther eis |
| 20:47.25 | N9NU | http://peazip.sourceforge.net/free-7z-7zip-utility.html |
| 20:47.32 | bram85 | rindolf: mplayer? |
| 20:48.47 | rindolf | bram85: doesn't play anything. |
| 20:49.02 | Half-Left | lol, yer right |
| 20:49.03 | rindolf | What happened to the Engine configruration of Amarok in Amarok 2.0? |
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| 20:49.43 | Half-Left | rindolf: Uses phonon dont need that option anymore |
| 20:50.24 | rindolf | Half-Left: I See. |
| 20:50.33 | rindolf | What video player works on KDE 4? |
| 20:50.39 | rindolf | I don't see Kaffeine anywhere. |
| 20:50.43 | rindolf | video+media. |
| 20:50.50 | rindolf | libxine-based etc. |
| 20:50.58 | Half-Left | Dragon player for now |
| 20:51.20 | rindolf | Half-Left: ah. |
| 20:52.18 | Half-Left | With phonon you can switch backends across all KDE apps |
| 20:52.34 | gnumm | i still use vlc |
| 20:52.34 | Half-Left | Xine, Gstreamer |
| 20:53.41 | rindolf | Thanks God! |
| 20:53.47 | rindolf | Half-Left: thanks. |
| 20:53.54 | rindolf | Half-Left: Dragon-Player works. |
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| 20:53.59 | rindolf | What happened to Kaffeine? |
| 20:54.12 | Half-Left | KDE apps just need to get compiled with phonon, job done no need to mess about |
| 20:54.33 | kriko | How do I get video previews in dolphin? |
| 20:55.20 | kriko | I mean thumbnails from video files |
| 20:55.38 | Half-Left | I dont think there is |
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| 20:56.05 | kriko | Half-Left: only for konqueror? |
| 20:56.34 | Half-Left | kriko: Think so |
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| 20:57.03 | kriko | Looks promising: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MPlayerThumbs?content=41180 |
| 20:57.04 | kriko | but can't get it wokring :)= |
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| 21:00.41 | kriko | Yay! video previews in dolphin working!!!! |
| 21:00.47 | kriko | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MPlayerThumbs?content=41180 |
| 21:01.34 | Half-Left | nice |
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| 21:01.52 | kriko | You just need to specify right prefix when compiling |
| 21:02.39 | Half-Left | ofcourse :) |
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| 21:03.46 | rindolf | Hi all! How do I add applications to the panel? And how do I move them? |
| 21:04.28 | N9NU | use the KDE start menu (new style) and right click on the icon /app you want to copy to the panel |
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| 21:04.59 | Half-Left | Just drag it into the panel from the menu |
| 21:05.15 | N9NU | or that way |
| 21:05.44 | MrGrim | wow.. people mak emoney selling ubuntu on ebay? |
| 21:06.00 | MrGrim | that kde apps page had this ad for ebay: " Ubuntu Linux 2008 *Best Windows OS!* XP" |
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| 21:07.10 | Half-Left | Yer all sorts of crap on there |
| 21:07.17 | Half-Left | ebay |
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| 21:08.06 | phanna | after you add icons to the panel, is there anyway to move them around to a different area of the panel? |
| 21:08.20 | fmontesi | any way to disable smooth scrolling in kmail for kde 4.1rc1? |
| 21:08.21 | Half-Left | No |
| 21:08.23 | N9NU | ah yes..the thing that icannot do |
| 21:08.29 | kriko | phanna: yes |
| 21:08.46 | kriko | just click the plasma icon on panel and start dragging |
| 21:08.48 | N9NU | Move was an option earlier....maybe its back in rc1 |
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| 21:09.36 | Half-Left | you can move icons to another panel in 4.1 |
| 21:09.46 | phanna | i see |
| 21:09.49 | Half-Left | Only in the same panel |
| 21:10.04 | phanna | thanks |
| 21:10.24 | Half-Left | phanna: I have 4 panels so I know :p |
| 21:10.41 | phanna | lol |
| 21:10.49 | phanna | are you running 4.1? |
| 21:10.58 | Half-Left | yep, RC1+ |
| 21:11.05 | phanna | was curious how stable it was |
| 21:11.16 | Half-Left | Much more stable |
| 21:11.45 | kriko | phanna: stable - using it at home and at work |
| 21:11.54 | kriko | with some bling also |
| 21:11.56 | phanna | i'm running compiz fusion and emerald...will that still work if i upgrade to rc1? |
| 21:12.09 | kriko | don't know, not using compiz |
| 21:12.11 | fmontesi | phanna: idem, i'm running 4.1 at home and at work. |
| 21:12.26 | Half-Left | Plasma devs have really got the hang of it now, you can see this |
| 21:12.29 | idem | I'm happy for you :) |
| 21:12.34 | fmontesi | just shoot some kwin cover switch at the company beamer... |
| 21:12.48 | fmontesi | idem: ... i was meaning idem as "the same here" :D |
| 21:12.52 | idem | ;) |
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| 21:13.00 | fmontesi | idem: didn't notice your nick :) |
| 21:13.10 | phanna | kriko what you mean by bling heh, what else are you running? |
| 21:13.17 | idem | took it in the dictionary |
| 21:13.41 | kriko | kwin effects |
| 21:13.55 | rindolf | N9NU: I switched to the classic style. |
| 21:14.02 | rindolf | N9NU: of the K-menu. |
| 21:14.11 | N9NU | yeah thats fine...you can drag and drop to the bar |
| 21:14.20 | N9NU | i prefer the older one too at the moment |
| 21:14.20 | Half-Left | would use the nvidia driver if it wasn't such a crock of crap in KDE4 |
| 21:15.04 | N9NU | oops...gotta reset KDE...i shouldnt be in the desktop while upgrading. |
| 21:15.05 | N9NU | brb |
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| 21:16.31 | test34 | the nvidia driver doesnt work with KDE4 ? |
| 21:16.54 | phanna | i think it does cuz thats what i'm using |
| 21:17.26 | test34 | do you still have 3d acceleration (e.g.: for games )? |
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| 21:18.07 | phanna | haven't tried any games..but i'm using compiz fusion which i believe requires 3d acceleration |
| 21:18.08 | Half-Left | Yer it does it's just slow and resizing and drawing |
| 21:18.52 | phanna | beats having an ati card right? hehe |
| 21:18.53 | Half-Left | uses nv opensource driver and Xrender for kwin effects |
| 21:19.10 | Half-Left | phanna: No ATI card is much faster with 2d |
| 21:19.24 | phanna | but what about 3d? |
| 21:19.30 | Half-Left | Not so fast |
| 21:19.33 | test34 | phanna, yeah I don't buy ATI anymore.. |
| 21:19.50 | phanna | hm |
| 21:20.19 | Half-Left | The opensource one is not very will optimized so |
| 21:21.01 | Half-Left | But very good enough for games |
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| 21:22.27 | Half-Left | If you can tell the difference between 130fps and 170fps then you better get nvidia :p |
| 21:22.31 | kriko | Half-Left: how is performance with nv and xrender? |
| 21:22.53 | Half-Left | kriko: Good considering, some effects are slower |
| 21:22.59 | kriko | aha |
| 21:23.19 | Half-Left | But it's better mostly than the nvidia driver |
| 21:23.40 | kriko | Last time I put in an old radeon 9250se, 2d was great in kde4, but 3d kwin effects not so good |
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| 21:23.59 | kriko | I will try with nv |
| 21:24.07 | kriko | hopefully 7600gt is supported |
| 21:24.18 | Half-Left | yes it is |
| 21:24.32 | Half-Left | my 7800GTX is so |
| 21:24.46 | kriko | Can you send me your xorg.conf? |
| 21:24.47 | phanna | what about older cards? like a 6800 |
| 21:24.48 | kriko | viam mail |
| 21:24.52 | kriko | *via |
| 21:25.08 | Half-Left | kriko: I just have two exta lines |
| 21:25.26 | kriko | Half-Left: still |
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| 21:28.02 | phanna | when you upgrade to 4.1 can you still go back to 4.0 from the login screen? |
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| 21:28.50 | Half-Left | phanna: You can use any screen you want, it has Gte hot stuff |
| 21:28.58 | Half-Left | Get* |
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| 21:29.39 | phanna | i mean like how you can switch between different desktop evironment |
| 21:29.53 | phanna | does 4.1 replace 4.0 or is it seperate |
| 21:30.07 | bonsaikitten | phanna: depends on the distro, but they can be separate |
| 21:30.27 | bonsaikitten | phanna: in gentoo I've had 3.5 4.0 4.1rc1 and 4.1svn at the same time without issues |
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| 21:30.59 | phanna | what about kubuntu? |
| 21:31.12 | phanna | er debian i guess |
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| 21:32.59 | Half-Left | Nice relaxing bath time |
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| 21:33.54 | Ayabara | this gave me a transparent conky on kde 3.5, but doesn't work on kde 4 : ${exec feh --bg-scale `dcop kdesktop KBackgroundIface currentWallpaper 1`} |
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| 21:34.18 | JarekMk | hi |
| 21:34.43 | JarekMk | I have question about kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4, is this packed replaceing kdebase-bin-kde3 in SID? |
| 21:34.45 | Half-Left | Ayabara: yes because KDE4 dont use dcop anymore |
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| 21:35.54 | Ayabara | Half-Left: ok. any idea what I can do instead? |
| 21:36.08 | Half-Left | JarekMk: runtime and workspace are part of kdebase yes |
| 21:36.19 | Half-Left | Ayabara: Not sure, it uses dbus now |
| 21:36.36 | Half-Left | qdbus |
| 21:37.31 | JarekMk | Half-Left: so I don't damage my KDE removieng kdebase-bin-kde3 and installing kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4? |
| 21:37.43 | kriko | is going to try nv |
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| 21:38.04 | Half-Left | JarekMk: Damage what version? |
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| 21:38.22 | JarekMk | Half-Left: 3.5.9 - I jave Debian Sid |
| 21:38.33 | JarekMk | or is this KDE 4.1 RC2? |
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| 21:38.40 | Half-Left | Well I dont know about your packages |
| 21:39.00 | Half-Left | 3 and 4 are different |
| 21:39.55 | JarekMk | so what with this pack? |
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| 21:40.47 | Half-Left | Ask your distro channel, they sometime split workspace and runtiem up into seperate packages |
| 21:40.56 | Half-Left | runtime* |
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| 21:41.39 | kriko | KDE4 desktop performance is soooo much better with nv driver (2d) |
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| 21:41.49 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 21:42.20 | JarekMk | Half-Left: thanks :) |
| 21:42.25 | Half-Left | np |
| 21:42.33 | kriko | Half-Left: thank you |
| 21:42.48 | Half-Left | kriko: More responsive eh? |
| 21:43.01 | kriko | absolutely! |
| 21:43.36 | kriko | I hope nvidia fixes soon their binary blob |
| 21:44.09 | Half-Left | yer, 3 months most lightly |
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| 21:46.46 | Half-Left | Maybe not get full improvements before 2009 |
| 21:47.03 | Half-Left | Wouldn't surprise me at all |
| 21:47.30 | pedepy2 | anybody able to use webkit kpart or what ?..... |
| 21:47.38 | pedepy2 | thing seems less responsive than ever |
| 21:48.03 | kriko | Half-Left: latest months updates were a joke |
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| 21:49.05 | Half-Left | Yer just GPU support but atleast it's better than ATI/AMD |
| 21:49.44 | Half-Left | back in a bit |
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| 21:50.16 | Walzmyn | Where are the contacts in Kontact kept? meaning what folder in ./kde? |
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| 22:06.53 | snowdonkey | Hi. I'm using KDE 3.5.7, and whenever I enable translucency/shadows, all videos play but are blank. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 22:07.16 | snowdonkey | I mean that when I play the video, I can see that it's playing, but the screen remains black. |
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| 22:09.12 | friedrich| | try a different vo |
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| 22:09.25 | snowdonkey | Video output? |
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| 22:09.53 | snowdonkey | friedrich|: What's vo? |
| 22:10.02 | gkiagia | snowdonkey: you are using old composite code in kde, which was always problematic afaik... consider using compiz or try kde4 |
| 22:10.08 | gkiagia | snowdonkey: vo = video output |
| 22:11.17 | snowdonkey | gkiagia: Ok, thanks. I think I'll give KDE 4 whirl, I could never get compiz to work in Slackware. |
| 22:12.21 | gkiagia | snowdonkey: of course there may be another solution, which I don't know of... but composite in 3.5.x has problems afaik |
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| 22:22.32 | Half-Left | thiago_: I'm managing to make my SVG graphics show much better in Qt4 :) |
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| 22:26.46 | Nachtengel | hii |
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| 22:27.15 | Nachtengel | i using fedora 9, but when kde 4 starts there an error, phonon_xine |
| 22:27.28 | Nachtengel | what is this? how i solve |
| 22:28.03 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: which video resolution are you running your X? (with the 'nv' driver) |
| 22:28.16 | Half-Left | 1440x900 |
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| 22:28.46 | Kenjiro | for some weird reason I tried to change from 'nvidia' to 'nv' and I got stuck in 1280x1024, intead of my 1680x1050 :( |
| 22:29.18 | Half-Left | hmm |
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| 22:29.53 | Half-Left | Nachtengel: Ask your distro channel maybe missing something |
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| 22:30.07 | Nachtengel | ;) |
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| 22:33.25 | Kenjiro | but since it doesn't bother me TOO MUCH (nvidia driver)... only when I resize windows ... hehehehe |
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| 22:34.01 | Kenjiro | I try to contain myself... to not resize anything *LOL* |
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| 22:50.38 | Luyt | Something funny has happened to my KDE installation... I can drag the icon from Konq's address bar to the desktop to make a link, but if I try to open it again with Konq it says "You have associated konq with application/x-desktop, but it cant handle this type of file". When I double click the link icon, the webpage opens in Kwrite... any ideas? |
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| 22:58.55 | _genuser_ | hello people. |
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| 22:59.22 | _genuser_ | I'm getting errors compiling some plasmoids downloaded from kde-look. what would be the right place to ask for help? |
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| 23:04.17 | Half-Left | _genuser_: Ask the person who did them? |
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| 23:05.09 | Luyt | Problem solved. For file type HTML, KATE was above Konq. |
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| 23:07.15 | _genuser_ | Half-Left: ok. I was hoping that certain errors might be more of a kde environment issues. :) But will try to ask the author. |
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| 23:07.44 | Half-Left | _genuser_: Post at pastebin and I'll look |
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| 23:07.57 | _genuser_ | Half-Left: sure. :) |
| 23:08.32 | Half-Left | Make sure you paste lost of the error and not just a few lines |
| 23:08.39 | Half-Left | lots* |
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| 23:09.25 | fedora_ | I, as a Fedora user, had to remain using Fedora 8 since the Fedora 9 switch would have forced me to use KDE 4 which is just not ready to replace 3.5 to fit my needs. >* |
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| 23:09.51 | fedora_ | feels sad about that fact |
| 23:10.19 | shadok | change you nick, be happy :p |
| 23:10.23 | Half-Left | Dont it come with KDE3? |
| 23:10.25 | _genuser_ | Half-Left: http://rafb.net/p/EwCyff63.html. thanks. |
| 23:11.04 | fedora_ | Fedora 9 comes either with GNOME 2.22 or KDE 4, so, no KDE 3 edition is present with the latest version. |
| 23:11.06 | Half-Left | _genuser_: Error, not fond |
| 23:11.20 | Half-Left | Your joking? |
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| 23:11.45 | pinotree | _genuser_: which qt are you using? |
| 23:11.56 | fedora_ | Qt 3 |
| 23:12.14 | pinotree | you are not _genuser_ :) |
| 23:12.28 | _genuser_ | Half-Left: http://rafb.net/p/EwCyff63.html it says error: QGraphicsLinearLayout: No such file or directory |
| 23:12.32 | shadok | not yet ^^ |
| 23:12.36 | fedora_ | I do not know how to add Qt 4 support while using KDE 4 with this distro. |
| 23:12.43 | fedora_ | KDE 3* |
| 23:13.14 | Half-Left | fedora_: Crazy making KDE4.0.x default like that I think, KDE3.x should be a option aleast |
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| 23:13.21 | _genuser_ | pinotree: Qt4 since KDE4. But obviously for many others app the system has Qt3 as well. |
| 23:13.31 | _genuser_ | pinotree: not _genuser_, meaning |
| 23:13.52 | pinotree | _genuser_: rephrase: which _version_ of Qt 4 are you using? |
| 23:14.26 | shadok | fedora_: your should ask on #fedora |
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| 23:14.29 | shadok | *you |
| 23:14.59 | fedora_ | Yeah, that is what I thought too after testing it, Half-Left. No KDE 3 pack with the latest Fedora. But first, I thought that if Fedora 9 came only with KDE 4 it must have been ready, but it had flaws I could not overcome. |
| 23:15.12 | _genuser_ | pinotree: I only know qmake so qmake --version shows: Using Qt version 4.3.3 in /usr/lib/qt4. If that's not correct, please tell me how to check and I'll verify. :) |
| 23:15.28 | friedrich| | It is correct |
| 23:15.38 | friedrich| | at least, it provides enough information. ;) |
| 23:15.48 | pinotree | it is not enough to compile that applet; you need kde4.1 and qt 4.4 to compile it |
| 23:16.39 | fedora_ | So I turned to Debian based distros, and now I'll reinstall Fedora 8, since I read it comes with an update (at least it is still supported) to KDE 3.5.9, the latest of the greatest. |
| 23:17.25 | fedora_ | Anyway I have my strong hopes in KDE 4.1, and hope they don't vanish my thoughts after testing it. |
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| 23:17.45 | Half-Left | Yer 4.1 is alot better |
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| 23:18.42 | fedora_ | Until then, 3.5.9 is my secure choice. ;-) |
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| 23:19.00 | _genuser_ | yeah liking 4.1. But still running 4.0.5. Hopefully Gentoo will make mainstream portage package available soon. |
| 23:19.28 | _genuser_ | pinotree: so I should upgrade this stuff, eh? |
| 23:19.42 | pinotree | if you want that applet |
| 23:19.55 | _genuser_ | pinotree: what is it when one upgrades from bleeding edge to even bleeding-er edge... ? |
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| 23:20.16 | fedora_ | Be back later, gotta install this thing and it won't let me a lot of RAM available to chat, see you all. |
| 23:20.19 | fedora_ | Peace. |
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| 23:21.25 | _genuser_ | pinotree: ok. cool now to figure out if it is worth the effort to add the extra overlay and build the package from there or just wait for mainstream gentoo pacakge to be available. |
| 23:21.29 | _genuser_ | thanks. |
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| 23:24.51 | _genuser_ | pinotree: quick question - is Qt contained in kdelibs? Trying to see how to check for updated version.... |
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| 23:24.59 | pinotree | no |
| 23:26.24 | _genuser_ | pinotree: oh wait you're right. kdelibs are for KDE. Qt is the layer underneath. Just ignore the dumb question. |
| 23:27.06 | Half-Left | Usually does |
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| 23:40.47 | _snakedoc | anyone here good with wine? |
| 23:41.30 | Jucato | _snakedoc: #winehq please |
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| 23:42.14 | _snakedoc | thx |
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| 23:43.53 | User604 | anyone good with wine |
| 23:44.09 | nogagplz | people in #winehq are User604 |
| 23:45.09 | User604 | thx |
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| 23:47.30 | rolando | Morgen Allerseits |
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