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| 00:11.51 | Anjo_Malvado | does anybody know where I can find libnm so that I can compile knetworkmanager ? |
| 00:12.59 | Jucato | Anjo_Malvado: best to ask your distro which package provides it (you might want the development headers and libraries for it specifically) |
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| 00:13.20 | Anjo_Malvado | If I were to ask a distro I wasn't here |
| 00:13.24 | Anjo_Malvado | I want the SOURCE |
| 00:14.28 | aib | when I use the Print Screen button and then paste into KolourPaint, what format is the image in? more directly, how are images encoded when you use the Print Screen feature? |
| 00:15.13 | Anjo_Malvado | aib: good question, don't know on linux |
| 00:15.19 | zenstar | aib: PNG |
| 00:15.34 | Anjo_Malvado | interesting |
| 00:15.54 | Jucato | Anjo_Malvado: KDE doesn't have the networkmanager package/software |
| 00:16.14 | Jucato | (I mean, it's not part of KDE's source code or coverage) |
| 00:16.29 | Anjo_Malvado | Jucato: kde has it |
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| 00:16.33 | Anjo_Malvado | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/extragear/kde3/network/knetworkmanager/ |
| 00:17.00 | Jucato | Anjo_Malvado: KNetworkManager: yes. NetworkManager itself: no |
| 00:17.24 | Anjo_Malvado | but they need libnm to compile Knetworkmanager |
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| 00:17.33 | Anjo_Malvado | networkmanager needs it as well |
| 00:17.38 | Anjo_Malvado | so it doesn't matter |
| 00:17.41 | Jucato | yes. but that doesn't mean that the library or package is part of KDE |
| 00:17.46 | aib | i know this is not a graphics channel but.. |
| 00:17.48 | Anjo_Malvado | I didn't say it was |
| 00:17.50 | Anjo_Malvado | did I ? |
| 00:17.56 | aib | is the png -> eps conversion lossless? |
| 00:17.59 | Anjo_Malvado | You are assuming |
| 00:18.06 | Jucato | headdesks |
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| 00:18.15 | aib | (e.g., pasting a screenshot into KolourPaint, then saving as eps) |
| 00:18.52 | Anjo_Malvado | Jucato: just because I'm in the KDE channel it doesn't mean that if someone knows where to get it (because they did compile knetworkmanager) they wouldn't be able to tell me |
| 00:19.15 | Anjo_Malvado | Jucato: do you have some problem with that? |
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| 00:19.52 | Anjo_Malvado | aib: I wouldn't think so, but I guess it would depend on the conversion library... |
| 00:20.01 | Jucato | yes. because this is the KDE channel. it's purpose is for KDE support. not for general "where to find XYZ package" *even* if it's loosely connected to KDE. |
| 00:20.05 | Anjo_Malvado | aib: perhaps you should join #c or #c++ and ask there |
| 00:20.13 | Anjo_Malvado | Jucato: you are wrong |
| 00:20.16 | Anjo_Malvado | Jucato: so stfu |
| 00:20.17 | Anjo_Malvado | ok? |
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| 00:20.25 | Anjo_Malvado | if you don't want to answer |
| 00:20.36 | Anjo_Malvado | do you think I care if you are +o ? |
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| 00:20.50 | Jucato | yes, you should |
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| 00:21.46 | Dhraakellian | wonders what exactly the differences between the Oxygen and Ozone windecs are |
| 00:22.23 | Jucato | Dhraakellian: Ozone lets you set a different color for window borders |
| 00:22.25 | Dhraakellian | other than being Oâ vs Oâ |
| 00:22.37 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 00:22.44 | Dhraakellian | that and the sticky button, it seems |
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| 00:22.56 | Jucato | that is, Ozone follows KDE color schemes completely. Oxygen is set to blend with the window background only |
| 00:23.15 | kdeusar | Jucato: are you a kde developer? |
| 00:23.43 | Jucato | why do you ask? |
| 00:23.56 | kdeusar | to ask developers question |
| 00:24.11 | Dhraakellian | Jucato: You! Cake or Death?! |
| 00:24.12 | Dhraakellian | like that? |
| 00:24.23 | Dhraakellian | stops lest he be told to take it to an off-topic chan |
| 00:24.26 | Jucato | :) |
| 00:25.11 | kdeusar | well then, I guess you're not. np |
| 00:25.20 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 00:25.48 | Jucato | depends on what you consider to be a developer. I'm a contributor, to put it simply |
| 00:26.14 | kdeusar | do you contribute code? :) |
| 00:26.16 | Dhraakellian | the knotify problem seems to have gone away ever since I changed the Player Settings to "No audio output" |
| 00:26.31 | Jucato | Dhraakellian: ha :) |
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| 00:27.07 | Dhraakellian | yes, it was rather annoying to have a beep and a dialog come up at me up to several times a minute |
| 00:27.20 | Jucato | kdeusar: if you have a development question, there's #kde-devel |
| 00:27.38 | Dhraakellian | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149290 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154011 http://rafb.net/p/h3iN1s60.html |
| 00:27.40 | Jucato | Dhraakellian: hm... maybe the sound notification for "new dialog" |
| 00:27.46 | Dhraakellian | hehhehheh |
| 00:27.54 | Jucato | I had to turn that thing off |
| 00:27.57 | kdeusar | Why you were so idiot and didn't tell the guy who asked about libnm-util? |
| 00:28.01 | kdeusar | I see, you are an idiot |
| 00:28.03 | kdeusar | LOL |
| 00:28.14 | Jucato | "the guy" being you |
| 00:28.21 | kdeusar | naturally, IDIOT |
| 00:28.22 | kdeusar | :D |
| 00:28.23 | Dhraakellian | actually... *checks to see if the most recent backtrace that he copied is still on the clipboard after shutting down last night* |
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| 00:28.48 | Dhraakellian | nope |
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| 00:29.12 | Dhraakellian | (the one in the pastebin link is from before I installed phonon-debuginfo, iirc) |
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| 00:29.47 | Dhraakellian | "Meddle not in the affairs of Opers, for they are (not so) subtle, and quick to anger." |
| 00:30.10 | Jucato | you can check the ban list and see how man I've banned ;) |
| 00:30.44 | Dhraakellian | still a fun quote |
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| 00:32.57 | zenstar | Where's the ban list |
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| 00:34.17 | Dhraakellian | zenstar: click the icon on the left end of the topic line above the chat text |
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| 00:34.30 | Jucato | presuming konversation of course |
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| 00:34.37 | Dhraakellian | did a /version |
| 00:35.01 | zenstar | Dhraakellian: okay thanks.. checking |
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| 00:38.43 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 00:39.18 | Dhraakellian | does kcmshell stuff still work in KDE4? |
| 00:40.20 | Jucato | kcmshell4 yes |
| 00:41.04 | Dhraakellian | ah |
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| 00:42.35 | Dhraakellian | should've thought of that |
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| 00:47.23 | zenstar | would: #find -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \; be the best way to remove empty directories in bash? |
| 00:52.03 | Dhraakellian | in 4.1beta2, is there any way to make Konqueror's throbber a tad bit smaller? |
| 00:53.02 | Dhraakellian | there's an awful lot of blank space between the menubar and the toolbar |
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| 00:54.11 | Dhraakellian | hmm... removing the menubar decreases the size a bit, but a wee bit more than I want |
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| 00:58.04 | Jucato | Dhraakellian: it's currently a bug that's being worked on afaik |
| 00:58.49 | Dhraakellian | Jucato: nifty |
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| 01:01.17 | hays | is there a way to drag a tab from one konqueror window to another such that a new tab is created in the destination window |
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| 01:06.06 | Jucato | hays: drag the tab to an empty place in the tabbar area |
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| 01:06.28 | jrick | *sigh* |
| 01:06.33 | jrick | no more Aaron's blog :( |
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| 01:15.34 | Moonstorm | hi. i want to use the file name for the title name for some tracks i am burning to audio cd. what is that option in k3b? |
| 01:15.48 | tinin | jrick any news on that? |
| 01:15.56 | tinin | any motive? |
| 01:16.05 | jrick | tinin: http://ervin.ipsquad.net/2008/06/25/about-stop-energy/ |
| 01:17.06 | tinin | haha |
| 01:17.07 | tinin | sure |
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| 01:17.32 | tinin | he should have just ignored a bit the messages |
| 01:18.11 | tinin | but it was a great way to keep us informed about kde development :( |
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| 01:20.22 | jrick | ever since I moved to KDE in ~2006 i've been hearing about the development of KDE4. It's really a shame that I won't be able to view Aaron's blog anymore. |
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| 01:20.33 | jrick | plasma truely is amazing |
| 01:22.26 | tinin | yeah, we should menace him to reopen it, or we will be insulting him everywhere else, there's no need for a blog ;P |
| 01:24.18 | jrick | on a slightly better note, at least Yzis development is picking up again. Soon I should be able to have a Vi(m)-like editor embedded in Kate or KDevelop :) |
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| 01:24.35 | tinin | I guess he lost lots of time responsing the people, so if he codes, kde4 will improve much more faster this way |
| 01:24.49 | Dhraakellian | jrick: yeah, I saw that. niftiness |
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| 01:28.26 | jrick | aseigo: if you're reading this, just keep up the good work. There are many more supporters than there are trolls. |
| 01:29.36 | tinin | +1 |
| 01:29.45 | Dhraakellian | +1 |
| 01:29.50 | zarvox | +1 |
| 01:29.53 | Dhraakellian | even if we're a lot less vocal |
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| 01:35.27 | homoludens | hi all: does anyone know what the command for opening external links in firefox in a NEW TAB, rather than in a new window? i'm trying to set up akregator this way. |
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| 01:36.24 | homoludens | sorry, never mind, i found it already. firefox setting, not konqueror problem ... |
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| 02:00.54 | Pollywog | anyone know why the Kopete in KDE 4.1 beta 2 is still crashing on ICQ? |
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| 02:02.55 | Dhraakellian | [not helpful]'cause it's a beta[/not helpful] |
| 02:03.53 | Dhraakellian | would glance at the backtrace and look to see if something is already up on bugs.kde.org |
| 02:03.55 | Pollywog | oic |
| 02:04.13 | Pollywog | ty |
| 02:04.24 | Dhraakellian | install the appropriate -debug or -debuginfo packages if needed |
| 02:04.38 | Dhraakellian | hasn't actually used Kopete from 4.1beta2 yet |
| 02:05.15 | Pollywog | I was going to submit a bug report but I saw lots of contact info and perhaps passwords in the backtrace |
| 02:06.37 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 02:06.54 | Dhraakellian | look through it carefully and censor passwords? |
| 02:06.57 | Jucato | might want to pass by #kopete as well to verify if it's a known issue |
| 02:07.03 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
| 02:07.17 | Dhraakellian | I was gonna say to make sure you search bugs.kde.org first |
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| 02:07.38 | daSkreech | Hey |
| 02:07.44 | daSkreech | Does gwenview have a IRC chan? |
| 02:07.49 | Dhraakellian | the issue I was having last night looked like a known issue, but I'm not sure from the b.k.o comments if it's known with 4.1beta2 |
| 02:07.57 | Dhraakellian | or just 4.0betas |
| 02:08.04 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 02:08.18 | Dhraakellian | should try out the 4.1b2 Kopete |
| 02:08.33 | zarvox | is running trunk kopete |
| 02:08.45 | zarvox | and sometimes it just randomly hangs |
| 02:08.53 | Pollywog | I had similar problems in trunk Kopete |
| 02:08.53 | Dhraakellian | wouldn't run into any ICQ issues though, since he's already logged in with the 3.5.9 kopete, and ICQ isn't very nice about multiple logins |
| 02:08.56 | zarvox | not sure how to reproduce |
| 02:09.13 | Dhraakellian | AIM is, though |
| 02:09.23 | Dhraakellian | as is Jabber, naturally |
| 02:09.24 | zarvox | indeed. |
| 02:10.24 | zarvox | how does one generate a backtrace for a hung application? attach gdb to the pid of the app, then just bt? |
| 02:11.13 | Dhraakellian | zarvox: no crash dialog? |
| 02:11.36 | zarvox | nope, kopete just stops responding to input from time to time |
| 02:11.51 | zarvox | it's not a crash, exactly, it's a logic error |
| 02:12.20 | zarvox | I suspect an infinite loop somewhere, or some malloc failed and it keeps trying, or something |
| 02:12.27 | Dhraakellian | has a flashback to when he was an amarok-svn addict |
| 02:12.37 | zarvox | no crash, just no gui response either |
| 02:13.00 | Dhraakellian | hmm... |
| 02:13.04 | Dhraakellian | fires up Kopete |
| 02:13.15 | zarvox | I can't make it crash on cue, though |
| 02:13.22 | Dhraakellian | now, hopefully, setting it up shouldn't be too hard, since I already imported my kdewallet stuff from Alatar |
| 02:14.48 | zarvox | I still have yet to figure out the appropriate combination of config options to make kopete handle new incoming messages as desired |
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| 02:25.49 | supert0nes | So in system settings it says you can restore a saved session like in kde3, but how do you save the session |
| 02:25.50 | supert0nes | ? |
| 02:26.16 | supert0nes | or let me clarify, on startup restore saved session vs. last session or default |
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| 02:35.52 | Dhraakellian | okay, that's a tad annoying, I suppose |
| 02:36.14 | Dhraakellian | in 4.1beta2, mousewheel over an inactive window doesn't appear to give it focus |
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| 02:36.58 | Dhraakellian | guess I'll have to retrain my finger habits |
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| 02:37.36 | reggie | hey folks |
| 02:37.51 | reggie | how do you add app to panel on 4.1 beta |
| 02:39.17 | supert0nes | right click on the panel |
| 02:39.33 | supert0nes | well you have to have an unlocked desktop |
| 02:39.38 | supert0nes | you do that in the upper right corner |
| 02:39.47 | supert0nes | then right click on the panel go to add widgets |
| 02:40.00 | supert0nes | app? or widget? |
| 02:40.13 | reggie | an app |
| 02:40.17 | supert0nes | ohh |
| 02:40.34 | reggie | like a quick launch to task bar |
| 02:40.42 | supert0nes | go to the menu with an unlocked desktop |
| 02:40.48 | supert0nes | and drag it to the panel |
| 02:41.24 | supert0nes | my plasma crashed when i just did it but hey no biggie heh |
| 02:41.35 | reggie | lol one sec |
| 02:41.39 | reggie | let me try |
| 02:41.55 | reggie | wait you mean the widgets have got to be unlocked correct |
| 02:42.11 | supert0nes | ya then the panel gets the cashew on the right |
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| 02:42.34 | supert0nes | then just open your menu and find the item you want and drag it to the panel |
| 02:43.04 | reggie | ohh ok that worked great thanx |
| 02:43.04 | zarvox | oh sweet, got kopete to hang again! |
| 02:43.06 | reggie | wow that |
| 02:43.13 | reggie | is different from 3.5.9 |
| 02:43.20 | supert0nes | its in the making |
| 02:43.29 | supert0nes | that is one option, i'm sure more will be added |
| 02:43.32 | reggie | trying tol get a good feel for kde 4 before it becomes final |
| 02:43.41 | reggie | cool so far |
| 02:43.54 | supert0nes | 4.2 will see more intuition, but so far I love the progress |
| 02:44.22 | reggie | yes same here |
| 02:44.39 | reggie | huh but i really love 3.5.9 t be honest |
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| 02:46.13 | reggie | ok supert0nes ONE MORE QUESTION |
| 02:46.16 | reggie | sorry for caps |
| 02:46.26 | supert0nes | i'm no genius but shoot |
| 02:46.26 | reggie | how do you align icons on desktop |
| 02:46.47 | supert0nes | what version are you using? |
| 02:46.56 | reggie | 4.1 beta or 4.0.83 |
| 02:47.07 | reggie | it;s kind of buggy thoughh |
| 02:47.07 | supert0nes | ok so you are using folderview? |
| 02:47.30 | supert0nes | 4.1 beta got rid of desktop icons |
| 02:47.30 | reggie | i keep getting this popup of knotify giving me an error |
| 02:47.42 | reggie | folder view? |
| 02:47.45 | reggie | huh i guess |
| 02:47.52 | supert0nes | and afaik there is no way to line up plasma widgets |
| 02:48.31 | reggie | ohh wow ok well guess that will also come down the road |
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| 02:48.40 | Kenjiro | good evening |
| 02:48.48 | supert0nes | you're icons arent widgets per say but they are desktop links turned into widgets. They can't be lined up because kde4 is using folderview for desktop icons now |
| 02:48.48 | reggie | which version are you using if you dont mind me asking supert0nes |
| 02:49.06 | supert0nes | i use a nightly version on ubuntu and 4.1 beta |
| 02:49.09 | Kenjiro | I am trying to compile kdebindings and complains about: |
| 02:49.11 | reggie | and is this better in terms of resources |
| 02:49.31 | Kenjiro | kdebindings-4.0.83/build/smoke/phonon/x_1.cpp: No such file or directory |
| 02:49.43 | reggie | when you say nightly does that mean latest from svn |
| 02:49.52 | Kenjiro | ok, the file really doesn't exist but then, how should I fix that? |
| 02:50.16 | supert0nes | reggie: resources are not the reason for folderview. The reason is that the devs of kde feel that users should have a choice of what their desktop should do, and it should not be an icon ghetto |
| 02:50.44 | supert0nes | reggie: pretty close to svn it is created by kubuntu devs and made into packages |
| 02:51.17 | reggie | ahh wow so no compiling necessary on your part correct |
| 02:51.23 | supert0nes | right |
| 02:51.39 | reggie | nice |
| 02:52.01 | supert0nes | #amarok.neon is where those packagers live, but i'm sure you could get help in #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 02:52.02 | reggie | well i'm on SUSE have t wait when theyre ready to release before i can get next version :( |
| 02:52.05 | supert0nes | if you wanted that |
| 02:52.19 | supert0nes | the people in amarok.neon are making suse packages also |
| 02:52.29 | reggie | ohh really? |
| 02:52.35 | supert0nes | yeah |
| 02:52.47 | reggie | nice thanx for the heads up supert0nes you're the best |
| 02:52.52 | supert0nes | hah np |
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| 02:55.37 | Kenjiro | hmmmm let me try to compile it again... |
| 02:56.49 | Kenjiro | crap, same error :( |
| 02:58.25 | Kenjiro | supert0nes: do you know anything about compiling kdebindings? |
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| 03:03.46 | Kenjiro | I didn't think it would be so hard to compile kdebindings :( |
| 03:04.20 | reggie | supert0nes: is there a kde version on what you're using |
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| 03:05.52 | luke-jr | Kenjiro: use Gentoo |
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| 03:06.12 | Kenjiro | heheehe no thanks |
| 03:06.50 | Kenjiro | the problem is it is not showing me why it doesn't create the phonon/x_1.cpp |
| 03:06.51 | Kenjiro | :( |
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| 03:12.02 | supert0nes | shit |
| 03:12.15 | Kenjiro | you tell me |
| 03:12.16 | Kenjiro | *grin* |
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| 03:12.53 | Kenjiro | if I enable smoke, kdebindings won't compile. If I disable it, it won't compile ;) |
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| 03:13.30 | supert0nes | yaaa...I'm waiting for bindings for dynamic languages heh |
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| 03:15.28 | Kenjiro | that's the nice message I get: http://pastebin.com/d26b50d4e |
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| 03:17.08 | Kenjiro | http://pastebin.com/d37d819fd <-- updated |
| 03:17.32 | Kenjiro | last URL first shows how I am compiling kdebindings, then the error |
| 03:17.42 | Kenjiro | can anyone help? |
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| 03:40.12 | rpag | i cant seem to clear my cache from konqeuror |
| 03:40.20 | rpag | is there a directory i can rm -rf instead? |
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| 03:46.05 | Dhraakellian | wonders if it's possible to get kde3 apps to take their color scheme settings from kde4 settings |
| 03:46.28 | Dhraakellian | thought the checkbox in the KDE4 colors kcm would do that |
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| 03:52.28 | Dhraakellian | it might be for the best that konvi isn't taking my kde4 color scheme |
| 03:53.02 | Dhraakellian | most/all of the kde3 styles don't handle dark color schemes half so well as Oâ does |
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| 03:57.07 | Kenjiro | my oh my. |
| 03:57.22 | Kenjiro | as far as I know I have all the deps on my system |
| 03:57.38 | Kenjiro | even then kdebindings fails to compile at the very same spot :( |
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| 05:59.16 | dmseg | hey need help the defualt kde look on goblinx is just very bad i need soem themes expecially in which there is a lot of blue colour and stuff |
| 05:59.45 | dmseg | the defualt kde theme can i change it to the original kde theme?? |
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| 06:09.00 | dmseg | guess no wnats to help sorry to put out this topic |
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| 06:09.30 | tictric | failed at mind reading |
| 06:09.44 | Jucato | hm... the impatience of the young |
| 06:09.49 | Jucato | well he did say what his problem was |
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| 06:48.43 | SoftVision | hi is there a distro around that offers KDE 4.1 debug packages so i can report bugs? is it possible with openSUSE 11 or Kubuntu? |
| 06:50.58 | tictric | in aptitude search for '-dbg' |
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| 06:56.26 | Jucato | Kalidarn: webkitkde is developed outside of main KDE. it doesn't follow KDE release nor is it part of main KDE |
| 06:58.13 | Kalidarn | ah jay Jucato |
| 06:58.19 | Kalidarn | so when might we see it in Konqueror? |
| 06:58.36 | Kalidarn | a friend of mine wanted to know :) because he was going to base an important decision on it |
| 06:59.18 | Jucato | as default in Konqueror? not any time soon. when will it be ready for use? you'll have to contact the webkitkde devs |
| 06:59.29 | Kalidarn | ah kay |
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| 06:59.43 | Kalidarn | irc channel? |
| 07:00.58 | Jucato | don't know. I'm not familiar with them. maybe you can poke around in #webkit (not sure) |
| 07:02.02 | Jucato | you'll have to consider webkitkde as a 3rd party library being developed in KDE svn. there's no assurance that it will be included in any of the KDE modules. maybe extragear someday. maybe |
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| 07:54.51 | deprecated_work | hi there, im trying to log into kde 4.1 beta 2 and when i login i get "call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full ?).Check your installationâ. |
| 07:54.55 | deprecated_work | anyone know how to fix? |
| 07:56.04 | annma | this was known at the beginning of KDE4 |
| 07:56.14 | annma | did you google for it? |
| 07:56.19 | deprecated_work | yip |
| 07:56.22 | annma | or ask your distro about it? |
| 07:56.27 | deprecated_work | i googled |
| 07:56.39 | deprecated_work | http://www.google.co.za/search?hl=en&q=kde+4.1+beta+2+Call+to+lnusertemp+failed&btnG=Google+Search&meta= |
| 07:57.11 | annma | what distro is it? |
| 07:57.17 | deprecated_work | fedora 9 |
| 07:57.23 | deprecated_work | using packages from rawhide |
| 07:57.52 | annma | did you ask in #fedora? |
| 07:57.56 | annma | did you ask in #fedora |
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| 07:58.40 | annma | isn't / full? |
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| 08:01.06 | deprecated_work | nope |
| 08:02.05 | Aishiko | I get that message sometimes (or used to) my / was full and I had to delete stuff in /tmp to clear space from a cli or liveCD I got tired of it and so upgraded my / to a much larger partition and since have had no isses |
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| 08:02.26 | Aishiko | but I don't and won't use KDE4 |
| 08:03.29 | Aishiko | when is kde4 going to be out of beta? |
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| 08:05.11 | jazka | Aishiko: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule |
| 08:05.14 | aadrujinin | пÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ |
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| 08:05.38 | alediaferia | aadrujinin: english please |
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| 08:08.29 | Aishiko | SO what happens to the older KDEs on July 29th? |
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| 08:17.45 | sandsmark | Aishiko: nothing? |
| 08:18.39 | Aishiko | sandsmark, what I mean is that the same as their end of service life or will they be supported for a time after? |
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| 08:19.13 | sandsmark | Aishiko: kde 3 will be supported for quite some time |
| 08:19.26 | sandsmark | many distros still have support contracts to fulfill, etc. |
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| 08:20.42 | Aishiko | sandsmark, thanks that is what I was hoping to hear, I have nothing but bad expereinces with 4 and don't want to risk it currpting and breaking my computer again |
| 08:20.55 | sandsmark | Aishiko: well, you tried 4.0, didn't you? |
| 08:21.16 | sandsmark | that was a "eat-your-babies"-release, not for "normal" users |
| 08:21.21 | sandsmark | (for some value of "normal" =) |
| 08:21.54 | Aishiko | sandsmark, not on purpose it was backported to me and removed 3.5.... |
| 08:22.07 | sandsmark | which distro are you using? |
| 08:23.06 | Jucato | (blame your distro :) |
| 08:23.09 | Aishiko | sandsmark, I was using ubuntu (I don't anymore and turn others to other Distros instead now) |
| 08:23.30 | Jucato | hm... Kubuntu doesn't remove KDE 3 when KDE 4 is installed |
| 08:23.42 | Aishiko | Jucato, I blame both, if they hadn't gotten it they wouldn't have done that |
| 08:23.44 | Jucato | it installs KDE 4 side by side with KDE 3 |
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| 08:24.21 | Aishiko | Jucato, it didn't with me and it was months ago they may have fixed that bug, I'd not know I dropped them as soon as I could |
| 08:25.24 | Aishiko | Jucato, and it was backported I didn't tell it to install or upgrade anything |
| 08:25.31 | Jucato | if that's what you believe happened... |
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| 08:26.19 | Aishiko | Jucato, if you don't beleive me why are wasting my time.... |
| 08:26.32 | sandsmark | why are you wasting Jucato's time? =) |
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| 08:27.14 | Aishiko | sandsmark, if he didn't believe me why ask me more questions? |
| 08:27.23 | alediaferia | Aishiko: the thing is, don't blame KDE for that 'cause it is not KDE's fault =) |
| 08:27.31 | Jucato | please quote where I even asked a question |
| 08:30.14 | Jucato | But just for the sake of "helping"... |
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| 08:30.23 | Jucato | 1. There is not "end of life" for KDE 3 |
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| 08:30.46 | Jucato | (as in, feel free to use it as long as you like. just don't expect regular updates) |
| 08:31.21 | Jucato | 2. how KDE 4 is installed, whether it replaces KDE 3 or KDE 4, is up to the distro or the user if he's doing it by himself. KDE does not decide that |
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| 08:32.29 | Jucato | 3. Kubuntu's setup, even when KDE 4 was unreleased, wasn't to replace KDE 3. If something else happened, well, that would be a bug or a fluke. I'm not disbelieving you. I'm just saying "it's not the normal intended behavior" |
| 08:33.36 | Jucato | 4. I never asked you a question |
| 08:33.57 | sandsmark | 5. These lists are getting boring. |
| 08:33.59 | sandsmark | =) |
| 08:34.09 | Jucato | Don't read them |
| 08:34.26 | Jucato | simple as that. or completely /ignore me |
| 08:34.28 | sandsmark | it's hard not to, I'm supposed to be working with autotools |
| 08:34.32 | Jucato | shrugs |
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| 08:35.09 | sandsmark | (as in, it's much more preferable to sit on IRC and whine =) |
| 08:35.36 | alediaferia | hugs Jucato and sandsmark and offers them wine =) |
| 08:35.45 | Jucato | heh thanks :) |
| 08:36.06 | sandsmark | I don't drink, but thanks =) |
| 08:36.28 | alediaferia | sandsmark: i don't drink too, it just was for fun =) |
| 08:36.36 | Jucato | (it's the thought that counts dude... you can just give me your share if you don't want it) |
| 08:36.39 | sandsmark | =) |
| 08:37.32 | alediaferia | Jucato: lol =) |
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| 08:40.18 | ronino | hi |
| 08:41.03 | ronino | since today or yesterday, my konqueror goes to e.g. spiegel.de when typing in "spiegel" into the address bar, before it always started a google search, I didn't make an update, is this a bug? |
| 08:41.08 | ronino | i don't want this feature |
| 08:41.13 | ronino | at least not activate |
| 08:41.13 | ronino | d |
| 08:42.05 | Jucato | ronino: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Shortcuts, at the bottom, see what default search engine you are using |
| 08:42.25 | ronino | Jucato: is its google |
| 08:42.50 | Jucato | hm.. weird... |
| 08:43.13 | Jucato | is "spiegel" the only one that behaves like that? |
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| 08:44.06 | ronino | no, for any word, if there is a .de domain, that is requested |
| 08:44.25 | ronino | otherwise "unknow computer foobar" is displayed (or similar) |
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| 08:44.47 | ronino | I know this setting is/was available in Firefox, but somehow it's now in my Konqueror |
| 08:44.58 | Jucato | haven't seen that before... |
| 08:45.06 | Jucato | what version of Konqueror? |
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| 08:45.20 | ronino | 3.5.9 |
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| 08:45.36 | sandsmark | what distro? |
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| 08:47.04 | ronino | sandsmark: Gentoo |
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| 08:47.24 | sandsmark | do you use the KIP-patches? |
| 08:47.28 | sandsmark | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.41 | ronino | sandsmark: no, no patches |
| 08:48.07 | ronino | I'll try a kde restart and see what happens |
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| 08:51.13 | ronino | re |
| 08:51.34 | ronino | problem persists |
| 08:51.47 | ronino | still going to spiegel.de when entering "spiegel" |
| 08:51.53 | Jucato | hm... |
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| 08:52.20 | ronino | at first I thought it was google with a new feature, sending me directly to the page with the short cut URL, but I checked that URL, I get to google |
| 08:52.37 | Jucato | it could also be a DNS thing... |
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| 08:53.18 | sandsmark | ronino: try to run "dig spiegel" in a konsole |
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| 08:53.50 | sandsmark | (or use "host", if you don't have dig installed) |
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| 08:54.46 | ronino | sandsmark: http://pastebin.com/m5e00bcb1 |
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| 08:55.38 | sandsmark | hmm, not dns problems |
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| 08:55.55 | ronino | funy |
| 08:56.06 | ronino | seems like I have to enter gg: now before every search |
| 08:56.16 | contrast83 | Greets, everyone... |
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| 08:56.47 | ronino | I didn't install or update anything KDE related recently |
| 08:56.54 | ronino | anyone else who ever had that "feature"? |
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| 08:57.01 | contrast83 | Anyone know if it's possible to add feeds to Akregator via Firefox? I'm on KDE 3.5.9 |
| 08:57.17 | contrast83 | ronino: When typing into the location bar? |
| 08:58.06 | ronino | contrast83: yes |
| 08:58.19 | contrast83 | ronino: Konqueror's always been like that for me |
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| 08:58.55 | ronino | contrast83: yeah, okay, you missed part of the conversation ;-), the problem is that i go e.g. to spiegel.de when just typing in spiegel, i'm no longer going to google... |
| 08:59.18 | ronino | contrast83: this "works" for any other domain |
| 08:59.21 | ronino | at least .de ones |
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| 09:02.25 | contrast83 | hmm... not sure i'm getting you, sorry. :-\ |
| 09:02.50 | ronino | contrast83: I type "spiegel" into the address bar and automatically get to spiegel.de |
| 09:03.07 | ronino | contrast83: i should get to google with a search for "spiegel" |
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| 09:04.31 | contrast83 | ahh, ok... mine doesn't do that - i just get "malformed url" if i don't put in .de/.com/.net/.whatever |
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| 09:20.29 | icwiener | I cannot test it since I have no KDE 3 running anymore but somebody asked me this: If I use the "Show Desktop" button and then klick on one window in the taskbar, all windows are maximised rather than only the one I clicked. Is that the usual behaviour? |
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| 09:22.10 | sandsmark | icwiener: no, not here |
| 09:22.21 | sandsmark | oh, maybe |
| 09:22.22 | sandsmark | =) |
| 09:22.23 | sandsmark | probably |
| 09:22.33 | sandsmark | must start reading what people write |
| 09:22.40 | icwiener | :) |
| 09:22.50 | icwiener | What does it do on your side? |
| 09:23.07 | sandsmark | I only have kde 4.1 =) |
| 09:23.18 | icwiener | hehe, same "problem" here. :) |
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| 09:44.44 | Jucato | icwiener: "Show Desktop" != "Minimize all |
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| 09:44.51 | Jucato | but there's a setting for that |
| 09:45.26 | rex | someone here using kdebluetooth 1.0_beta8? |
| 09:45.49 | Jucato | icwiener: kwinrc: ShowDesktopIsMinimizeAll=true |
| 09:45.55 | annma | Sho Desktop was Minimize ALL |
| 09:46.03 | annma | Show |
| 09:46.07 | annma | lol, Sho |
| 09:46.15 | Jucato | annma: I just love your typos |
| 09:46.34 | annma | yeah, I am probably secretly in love with him would say Freud |
| 09:46.42 | Jucato | annma: this was in KDE 3. you had to set that explicitly |
| 09:47.23 | annma | I am stepping up as I renamed this in kde4 |
| 09:47.43 | Jucato | yep. I noticed the change :) |
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| 09:48.00 | Jucato | so in KDE 4. "Show Desktop" is "Minimize All", and the former behavior is now "Show Dashboard" :) |
| 09:48.11 | rex | I'm looking for kblueping but I don't find it |
| 09:48.17 | annma | Jucato: yes |
| 09:48.30 | Jucato | annma: thank you for brining in sanity once again |
| 09:48.39 | Jucato | goes afk to go insane |
| 09:48.45 | annma | is not sure she is so sane |
| 09:48.45 | solsTiCe | hi. i demanstled my keyboard to clean it a bit. and then i saw the num. lock. led lit when i used the arrow on numpad and off when i used number on the numpad. the resverse of what must be. and then i found that's not me desmantling the keyboard that cause that but a kde bug : when i uncheck 'turn on num led when login' it's work ! |
| 09:49.39 | annma | solsTiCe: are you saying that the setting is reversed then? |
| 09:49.44 | oneforall | ok wine would I have to rebiuld that against qt4 ? |
| 09:49.51 | annma | wine? |
| 09:49.58 | oneforall | yeah winehq |
| 09:50.07 | annma | oneforall: built distro? |
| 09:50.23 | annma | solsTiCe: where is this setting please? |
| 09:50.27 | Jucato | doesn't get the question |
| 09:50.40 | annma | oneforall: distro should install wine for you |
| 09:51.15 | Jucato | nothing to do with Qt either (nor KDE for that matter) |
| 09:51.22 | oneforall | yeah I cross compiled slackware32 to 64 . so I have wine but I'm still running qt3 and kde3.5.9 so just checking out things :) |
| 09:52.14 | annma | oneforall: check with distro |
| 09:52.17 | oneforall | just setup my chroot finally to start building kde4 . I left qt3 and kdelib still . just finding out I need to rebuild poppler too |
| 09:52.30 | oneforall | annma thats me :) |
| 09:52.33 | annma | poppler: yes |
| 09:52.43 | annma | popplet needs qt4 support built |
| 09:52.52 | annma | poppler needs qt4 support built |
| 09:53.29 | oneforall | I see k3b built for kde4 now has to have libdvdread :) |
| 09:54.51 | annma | it was always a dependency I think oneforall |
| 09:55.05 | annma | how can you use k3b without libdvdread |
| 09:55.28 | oneforall | na slackware its compiled with out having libdvdread installed . but it does use it |
| 09:55.34 | Jucato | well, optional dependency |
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| 09:56.57 | oneforall | hmm I think that dep list I'm reading is wrong . you can probably still compile it with out it installed . But when you use it then its needs to be there of course. |
| 09:57.38 | annma | oneforall: I do cmake in extragear/multimedia then I look at the output |
| 09:57.46 | annma | that tells me what I am missing |
| 09:58.10 | Jucato | nods |
| 09:58.22 | Jucato | of course, presuming that the CMakeLists.txt are correct :) |
| 09:58.33 | annma | they should |
| 09:58.52 | Jucato | yeah, but we're only human... |
| 09:58.55 | Jucato | I think... |
| 09:58.57 | oneforall | yeah I'll see when I get to it . |
| 09:58.58 | Jucato | hm. maybe not all.. but... |
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| 09:59.12 | oneforall | thanks |
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| 10:02.56 | icwiener | Jucato: annma: Thank you for your clarification. :) |
| 10:03.14 | zorglu_ | q. when konqueror will move to webkit ? |
| 10:03.32 | icwiener | We sdaw that it worked in both ways on several machines so that seemed confusing. :) |
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| 10:04.01 | pinotree | zorglu_: as default? better never, i'd say |
| 10:04.20 | zorglu_ | pinotree: ok |
| 10:04.38 | Jucato | zorglu_: the most accurate answer: "not anytime soon" |
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| 10:05.09 | Jucato | (and I've read somewhere that it would not be possible for KDE 4's lifetime because of compatibility) |
| 10:05.45 | zorglu_ | kde4 lifetime... ok 'soon' is the lower limit :) |
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| 10:06.59 | zorglu_ | i ask because konqueror core dump way too often :) |
| 10:07.20 | zorglu_ | so i change my doc to "if konqueror, then use firefox" |
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| 10:07.56 | zorglu_ | sorry i wasnt there to argue. have fun |
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| 10:18.52 | solsTiCe | ann_lunch: the settings is in device -> keyboard : num. lock at login. i say it only light the num. lock. led but did not switch the numpad to use the numbers. so after that it is reverse with led on with arrow and led off for numbers. |
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| 10:20.14 | solsTiCe | ann_lunch: so i use 'leave it as it is' setting now. and it works that way |
| 10:20.51 | Ambient | can anywhere here tell me where can I get more color themes for Kate editor and how do I actually change the theme? (mainly where do I copy the theme files..) |
| 10:20.56 | Ambient | *anyone |
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| 10:23.42 | oneforall | hmm where can I get qt4.o.83 ? |
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| 10:24.22 | djouallah | oneforall, whitch distribution you run ? |
| 10:24.38 | tictric | solsTiCe: you got nvidia graphic card? |
| 10:24.49 | solsTiCe | yes. |
| 10:25.08 | oneforall | src not package |
| 10:25.12 | solsTiCe | tictric: why? it has an effect on my keyboard ?? |
| 10:25.40 | tictric | you played with that nvida setting gui? |
| 10:26.29 | tictric | say yes ? :) |
| 10:26.43 | djouallah | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.83/src/ |
| 10:26.47 | solsTiCe | ??? it's not an nvidia setting |
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| 10:27.47 | tictric | I really have no idea what really happened on my machine but I once |
| 10:28.00 | oneforall | yah but qt4 4.0.83 I don't se there :) |
| 10:28.25 | tictric | looked at that nvidia graphics setting tool and did I don't know what |
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| 10:28.53 | tictric | Sometime I realised the same numlock problem you have and couldn't make out where it came from |
| 10:29.34 | tictric | When I replaced my display with another one with a different resolution I couldn't figure |
| 10:29.59 | tictric | why my xorg wouldn't work though the settings were correct |
| 10:30.21 | tictric | In my homedir I found some .nvidia... file or was it directory |
| 10:30.50 | tictric | I renamed it and resolution was working correctly as it should AND numlock problem was gone :) |
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| 10:31.18 | tictric | but I haven't checked that scientifically. No time. |
| 10:31.27 | solsTiCe | tictric: no i am sure it's a kde bug. i have no .nvidia-setting.rc in my home dir |
| 10:31.28 | tictric | I just saw a connection there |
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| 10:31.54 | tictric | certainty can be a very tricky thing |
| 10:32.21 | oneforall | nv was crossing thing lookig at the wrong one O,o |
| 10:32.56 | oneforall | qt-r819958.tar.bz2 either a snapshot or he packaged it him self frm svn |
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| 10:33.29 | tictric | there could've been something entirely different what I did on that particular day that resolved that thing but I chose to blame nvidia for the time being :) |
| 10:33.52 | tictric | because I'm used to :) |
| 10:34.03 | d1zzy | that works |
| 10:34.25 | Psychonaut | I'm using KDE with compiz on openSUSE 11.0. The pager in the taskbar shows four virtual desktops, but these are actually four compiz cubes, each with four faces. How do I set up the pager so that each virtual desktop it shows is one face of a cube? |
| 10:34.26 | tictric | eg kwin with desktop effects uses 90% of one cpu-core atm on that nvidia card. |
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| 10:35.15 | tictric | ati and intel work fine though with me |
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| 10:37.50 | d1zzy | Psychonaut: might be wrong but I dont think you can. you are using a non kde wm which has its own virtual desktops besides the kde ones |
| 10:38.12 | Psychonaut | d1zzy: You certainly can, because it's working that way on my other computer. |
| 10:38.35 | seezer | hi. can someone tell me if following line is a kwin (4.0.83) fallback or something?: |
| 10:38.41 | seezer | kwin(2936) KDecorationPlugins::loadPlugin: kwin : path "/usr/lib/kde4/lib/kde4/kwin3_ozone.so" for "kwin3_ozone" |
| 10:38.47 | Psychonaut | d1zzy: Both machines are using compiz as their window manager, but on one the KDE pager switches between compiz desktops. |
| 10:38.54 | seezer | since kwin --version shows version 3.0 |
| 10:39.25 | seezer | i'm using kde4beta2 packages from kubuntu |
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| 10:42.32 | Jucato | seezer: what do you mean? what problems are you having? |
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| 10:44.33 | Psychonaut | Where does one set the number and names of the virtual desktops in KDE 4.0? |
| 10:45.00 | seezer | Jucato: i wonder if i'm using kwin4 |
| 10:45.21 | Jucato | seezer: yes you are. only Kwin 4 has Ozone :) |
| 10:45.53 | seezer | Jucato: i wonder because of kwin --version showing me version 3.0 and those kwin3_ozone line |
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| 10:46.18 | Jucato | seezer: some KDE apps don't follow KDE's exact numbering scheme... take for example, Kopete or KMail |
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| 10:46.39 | Jucato | it's usually App version (using KDE version), with App version not necessarily being the same as KDE version |
| 10:47.19 | seezer | Jucato: so kwin --version shows you 3.0 (with kde4) too? |
| 10:47.23 | Jucato | (seezer: or maybe it hasn't been updated properly. either way, the path alone shows you're using kwin) |
| 10:47.26 | Jucato | yep |
| 10:47.29 | Jucato | "using kwin4" I mean |
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| 10:48.35 | seezer | Jucato: yeah, just my ozone isn't what it was with the beta1 packages and i thought perhaps kwin package is somehow borked and it runs a fallback or something |
| 10:49.05 | Jucato | well, things change between betas :) |
| 10:49.30 | seezer | that's not the problem ;) |
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| 10:50.49 | seezer | thanks for the info anyways ;) |
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| 10:54.58 | Jucato | seezer: well unless you say what actually is the problem, I can only presume that the changes you've seen are part of the changes for beta2 |
| 10:57.03 | seezer | Jucato: probably. just got a bit alienated by the kwin version and the kwin3_ thingy. there is no actual problem :) |
| 10:57.11 | Jucato | :P |
| 10:57.31 | Jucato | don't worry. you're not going crazy. it is indeed kwin 3.0 :) |
| 10:58.24 | seezer | hey! tell me it's 4.0! :) |
| 10:58.38 | seezer | no, i'm fine :) |
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| 10:59.41 | raddy | Hello Everybody |
| 11:00.20 | raddy | Is it possible to change video driver in dragon-player? |
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| 11:06.47 | oneforall | -no-phonon what is phonon ? |
| 11:06.55 | sandsmark | multimedia |
| 11:07.24 | oneforall | and whast that to do with qt4 ? |
| 11:07.35 | sandsmark | qt 4.4 comes with phonon |
| 11:08.03 | raddy | is it possible change xine video driver in Dragon-Player? |
| 11:08.03 | oneforall | seen some that some put the -no-phjonon and somne don't :) |
| 11:08.22 | oneforall | ah so qt with some audio player ? |
| 11:08.30 | Jucato | raddy: Dragon Player uses what Phonon uses (which is Xine by default in KDE) |
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| 11:08.35 | Jucato | oneforall: not only audio |
| 11:09.50 | raddy | Jucato: how to configure phonon? |
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| 11:10.19 | oneforall | good thing I'm redoing my t4 package again I seen I had -prefix /usr/lib64/qt-$VERSION should be qt4 :) |
| 11:10.21 | Jucato | raddy: System Settings -> Advanced -> Phonon |
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| 11:10.45 | Jucato | raddy: but unless your distro's phonon was built with other backends available (like Gstreamer), I doubt you can change that |
| 11:10.59 | oneforall | wouldn't have found its self eh |
| 11:11.01 | oneforall | :) |
| 11:12.37 | oneforall | hmm I never had no-phonon but I don/t see it in usr/lib64/qt-4.4.0/bin |
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| 11:15.29 | Jucato | it's not a program |
| 11:15.43 | Jucato | (executable program) |
| 11:15.45 | tzd | i was wondering if it's possible to make akregator open a website in the background please? As it is now, when i click a link it opens the link and immediately switches to firefox where the page is opened. |
| 11:16.24 | tzd | I'm pretty sure it worked before and i can't remember I've changed anything |
| 11:16.44 | Jucato | hasn't worked before for me.. would be nice though |
| 11:16.57 | sandsmark | works for me |
| 11:17.05 | sandsmark | try turning on focus stealing prevention? |
| 11:17.09 | Jucato | ah wait |
| 11:17.19 | Jucato | sandsmark: not in an external browser |
| 11:17.29 | Jucato | found it |
| 11:17.34 | sandsmark | uhm, especially in an external browser =) |
| 11:17.43 | sandsmark | focus stealing prevention is in the window manager =) |
| 11:17.58 | tzd | sandsmark: ah yeah, will have a look :) Thanks! |
| 11:18.04 | Jucato | tzd: Settings -> Configure Akregator -> Browser -> Left mouse click -> Open in Background Tab |
| 11:18.23 | tzd | Jucato: doesn't that open the page in akregator? |
| 11:18.35 | Jucato | oh right. I misread the question |
| 11:18.40 | tzd | np :) |
| 11:18.48 | Jucato | sorry tzd,sandsmark |
| 11:18.53 | sandsmark | =P |
| 11:18.56 | Jucato | goes back to writing longishly |
| 11:19.08 | sandsmark | goes back to beating autotools and dpkg |
| 11:19.26 | raddy | how to use other video output driver in phonon xine |
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| 11:20.21 | sandsmark | vim ~/.xine/config ? |
| 11:20.23 | sandsmark | or something |
| 11:20.34 | sandsmark | look in the .xine folder in your homefolder |
| 11:21.38 | raddy | sandsmark: i think you are guess working, i accept that folder is where xine configuration resides, but KDE's Phonon uses a different config file |
| 11:21.59 | sandsmark | raddy: no, there is no "different" xines |
| 11:22.03 | tzd | hmm do i need to restart X to get the don't steal focus setting to work? |
| 11:22.16 | sandsmark | tzd: you might have to restart kwin |
| 11:22.31 | sandsmark | "kquitapp kwin && kwin" in the alt+f2 dialog |
| 11:22.39 | tzd | sandsmark: ah cool, cheers! Hopefully I'll get it to work then :) |
| 11:22.47 | sandsmark | =) |
| 11:23.29 | tzd | sandsmark: do i need to start kwin again or does it do that automatically? |
| 11:23.38 | sandsmark | it depends |
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| 11:23.43 | sandsmark | it should start again by itself |
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| 11:24.09 | tzd | ah yeah it's up now |
| 11:24.16 | raddy | sandsmark: i didn't say different xines, i said different config file |
| 11:24.37 | sandsmark | raddy: have you tried fixing that config file? |
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| 11:26.25 | raddy | sandsmark: it is already video.driver:xshm |
| 11:27.03 | sandsmark | try in #qt or #phonon |
| 11:28.05 | raddy | #phonon |
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| 11:29.21 | tzd | sandsmark: restarting it didn't work. I might be doing something wrong. I've set it to avoid focus stealing - Force - None ? |
| 11:30.04 | sandsmark | I have set Focus stealing prevention level to "Normal" |
| 11:30.26 | sandsmark | it is in system settings -> window behaviour -> window behaviour -> advanced, close to the bottom |
| 11:32.29 | tzd | ok will try now again, cheers |
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| 11:33.44 | Half-Left | Another KDE4.1 day ahead |
| 11:34.18 | jazka_ | kde 4.1 <3 |
| 11:34.59 | raddy | how to change video output driver in phonon xine |
| 11:35.12 | annma | raddy: change xine settings |
| 11:35.33 | annma | phonon is above xine, you need to change xine if you want phonon to change |
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| 11:36.25 | raddy | annma: xine setting is correct, but dragon-player always instructing xine to use a certain video driver which above phonon |
| 11:36.42 | sandsmark | also, dragon player uses some hacks with phonon |
| 11:36.45 | tzd | nope, for some reason the avoid focus stealing didn't work |
| 11:36.49 | sandsmark | (to get subtitles and stuff) |
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| 11:36.55 | sandsmark | tzd: what level did you put it on? |
| 11:37.07 | tzd | sandsmark: i set it to normal |
| 11:37.12 | sandsmark | maybe firefox changed something about their priority or something =3 |
| 11:37.35 | sandsmark | tzd: I don't have my laptop here, but I was pretty sure I had it at normal |
| 11:37.46 | sandsmark | tzd: you could try changing the levels tho |
| 11:38.29 | tzd | sandsmark: yeah I'll try it. Is it possible to have it the other way around? Like "Steal focus"... then i could use that for FF |
| 11:38.49 | sandsmark | you can adjust focus stealing prevention and stuff per-window |
| 11:39.36 | sandsmark | tzd: System Settings -> Window behaviour -> Window -specific -> new =) |
| 11:39.44 | tzd | sandsmark: yeah that's what im doing now but can't find a reverse focus stealing option i think |
| 11:40.10 | sandsmark | tzd: you can force firefox to start minimized |
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| 11:40.48 | raddy | can anybody help me in that? |
| 11:41.06 | tzd | sandsmark: ah good thinking. That could solve it perhaps... actually i have it set to maximized vert. and horiz. ... perhaps that's the thing that causes my original problem? |
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| 11:41.34 | sandsmark | tzd: maybe, it could have something to say for the focus stealing prevention algorithm |
| 11:41.52 | oneforall | so if I enable phonon then it would take place of xine ? |
| 11:42.10 | sandsmark | tzd: or preferences -> keep below -> force temporarily, maybe |
| 11:42.19 | sandsmark | or rather initially =) |
| 11:42.34 | tzd | sandsmark: thanks, will try that too :) |
| 11:42.40 | sandsmark | =) |
| 11:43.44 | oneforall | so are they sepertate things phonon and xine or will phonon take over |
| 11:47.05 | oneforall | ah I think I'll use that -no-phonon sounds like another arts |
| 11:47.07 | oneforall | :) |
| 11:47.08 | tzd | sandsmark: ok think this might work, cheers :D Will restart X to make sure it works |
| 11:47.15 | sandsmark | =) |
| 11:49.10 | oneforall | so are they seperate things or does this phono control xine or vise versa ? |
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| 11:53.34 | ertangvn | help |
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| 11:54.50 | jfreak0126 | does anyone at all know how to turn on pdf previews in kde 4.1 beta 2 Dolphin |
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| 11:54.58 | jfreak0126 | ?? |
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| 11:55.59 | tzd | sandsmark: ok i found the problem with the focus stealing. Apparently when I have it set to KDE default browser (akregator settings) it steals focus. Tried changing it to run Firefox via command (default cmd was: Firefox %u) and same issue occured. removed the "%u" and now it works although it opens in a new window instead of a tab. It would be great if it could open in a tab but since a window is better than nothing I'll manage :) |
| 11:56.23 | sandsmark | =) |
| 11:56.34 | sandsmark | well, I use mostly Konqueror myself, so =P |
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| 11:58.02 | tzd | sandsmark: ah yeah. That train has already left me.... installed FF too soon after i got Kubuntu and then i never really given konq the proper time it deserved... and now, well it's too late. ;) |
| 11:58.10 | sandsmark | ;) |
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| 12:01.03 | jfreak0126 | does anyone know how to successfully turn on pdf previews in Dolphin KDE 4.1 Beta |
| 12:01.07 | jfreak0126 | ??? |
| 12:01.31 | bram85 | jfreak0126: got kdegraphics installed? |
| 12:01.45 | jfreak0126 | hmmm. let me check |
| 12:03.23 | sandsmark | I have kdegraphics, and I don't have any previews here either |
| 12:03.29 | sandsmark | using the kubuntu kde4.1 beta 2 packages |
| 12:03.47 | jfreak0126 | i am using the same.... i am installing the files |
| 12:04.01 | jfreak0126 | kdegraphics-kde4 that is |
| 12:04.12 | jfreak0126 | i'll be right back |
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| 12:08.13 | jfreak0126_ | I still have no pdf previews in Dolphin kde 4.1 beta 2 after install kdegraphics-kde4 in Kubuntu 8.04 |
| 12:08.40 | jfreak0126_ | i turned up the max thumbnail size to 100mb as well |
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| 12:09.35 | zipper | After installing the latest nvidia beta driver (173.14.09), my volume keys on my keyboard no longer works. The OSD-volume-picture-thingie doesn't even show up. The only change i can find that the nvidia-config changed in xorg (regarding keyboard) was adding the non-existing "CoreKeyboard" in ServerLayout. Tried removing it, but didn't make a difference. Any ideas? I cant find "volume increase/decrease" anywhere under keyboard shotcuts |
| 12:10.20 | jfreak0126_ | any other ideas on how to turn on PDF previews in kde 4.1 beta 2?? Does any distribution besides kubuntu 8.04 have SUCCESSFUL dolphin pdf previews???? |
| 12:10.31 | jfreak0126_ | that is in kde 4.1 beta 2 |
| 12:12.49 | sandsmark | zipper: how does that relate to KDE? |
| 12:12.55 | sandsmark | jfreak0126_: try in #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 12:13.22 | jfreak0126_ | yeah...they said try over here. |
| 12:13.27 | zipper | sandsmark, sorry if this isnt the right channel, but keyboard shotcut settings is a part of kde isnt it? |
| 12:13.46 | sandsmark | zipper: the KDE shortcuts, yes |
| 12:14.23 | jfreak0126_ | sandsmark: what distro are you using?? Maybe pdf previews work for you and its just kubuntu? |
| 12:14.25 | sandsmark | zipper: nvidia, and whatever OSD-solution you use, is probably not from KDE |
| 12:14.39 | sandsmark | jfreak0126_: I only have a kubuntu machine available here =) |
| 12:14.46 | jfreak0126_ | oh...ok |
| 12:15.39 | zipper | sandsmark, so assuming the keys are still working, *something* must've been changed with the shotcuts. About the OSD, i honestly dont know - figured it was part of KDE (it was there, working, when i just installed kubuntu) |
| 12:15.59 | sandsmark | jfreak0126_: you could try in #opensuse or something, just ask if they have pdf previews working |
| 12:16.05 | sandsmark | zipper: ask in #kubuntu, then |
| 12:16.21 | jfreak0126_ | good idea...thanks... is that on freenode?? |
| 12:16.26 | sandsmark | jfreak0126_: yeah |
| 12:16.36 | sandsmark | zipper: you said yourself it happened after you upgraded nvidia |
| 12:17.40 | zipper | I would assume so, but i honestly dont know. I installed the driver yesterday, restarted X, and the keys were still working. Now today when i booted up my pc, they dont work anymore. |
| 12:18.14 | zipper | also installed wine 1.0 yesterday, but i think its more likely to be because of the nvidia driver |
| 12:18.49 | sandsmark | #kubuntu |
| 12:19.01 | zipper | but let me rephrase my question to something kde specific then |
| 12:19.11 | zipper | How do i bind a key to increase or decrease volume? |
| 12:19.44 | sandsmark | probably with khotkeys or input actions |
| 12:19.52 | sandsmark | (search in system settings for it =) |
| 12:20.05 | zipper | thanks |
| 12:20.11 | zipper | now that wasnt so hard was it? =P |
| 12:21.32 | sandsmark | but, I really don't think that's what kubuntu uses |
| 12:22.17 | zipper | khotkeys is installed by default it seems.... also looks like it is messed up "ERROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed." |
| 12:22.59 | sandsmark | I think kubuntu uses kmilo |
| 12:23.54 | zipper | I'm not using a laptop. Kmilo isn't installed by default |
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| 12:24.15 | zipper | but i can try installing it if you think thats the way to go? |
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| 12:26.12 | sandsmark | I'm not sure |
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| 12:42.32 | zipper | Hmm, just tried binding my volume keys to something in khotkeys - no luck, cant bind them to anything. Even if the InputDevice section for my keyboard is the same as back when it was working. :< |
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| 12:47.20 | Richlv | new selection/deselection in dolphin for singleclick mode is quite cool |
| 12:48.26 | Richlv | though knotify is crashing all the time on the livecd |
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| 12:52.21 | cb400f | Richlv: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde/2008-06/msg00070.html |
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| 12:54.20 | Richlv | cb400f, heh, thanks, but it seems konq still can't use proxy :) |
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| 12:54.43 | d1zzy | Richlv: konq4 can't use proxy at all you mean? that sounds bad |
| 12:54.53 | d1zzy | in kde3 there is the problem that it doesn't use the SOCKS settings |
| 12:54.59 | d1zzy | it only uses the http proxy if set |
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| 12:55.44 | Richlv | d1zzy, yes, this is a known problem |
| 12:55.52 | d1zzy | which one of the 2? |
| 12:56.05 | Richlv | there was some patch attached to the report recently, but it hasn't yet been applied, i think |
| 12:56.16 | Richlv | d1zzy, kde4 having problems with proxies :) |
| 12:56.34 | d1zzy | ok :) |
| 12:56.35 | d1zzy | too bad |
| 12:56.47 | d1zzy | one major expectation I have from kde4 is to be able to have konq honour SOCKS |
| 12:56.56 | Richlv | seems that icons size option has disappeared from konq as well |
| 13:00.31 | tuxick | isn't there some timer function for kde? |
| 13:00.43 | tuxick | like "beep at me in 15 minutes" ? |
| 13:01.10 | murrant__ | teatimer? |
| 13:01.15 | murrant__ | aka kteatime |
| 13:01.43 | tuxick | cheers, so much for gentoo then :) |
| 13:02.02 | Richlv | bah. no proxy support means i still can't try marble... |
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| 13:02.07 | murrant__ | tuxick: how so? |
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| 13:02.40 | tuxick | murrant__: nevermind, silly me looked for "timer" instead of "time" :) |
| 13:02.58 | tuxick | having bad day, ldap and stuff ;p |
| 13:03.34 | sandsmark | there's a timer plasmoid |
| 13:04.07 | murrant__ | aye, but that is in the playground isn't it? |
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| 13:06.17 | VagaStorm | Hi, I usethe kalendar, but I tried to add a scalix server using the exchange plugin. I aperantly entered som errorus info, but when I close the error message, kalendar crashes.... any ideas? |
| 13:07.11 | tuxick | teatime's fine, thanks |
| 13:07.30 | Sput | couldn't survive without kteatime |
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| 13:07.42 | Sput | and the KDE4 version has removed all the usability issues the KDE3 version had :) |
| 13:08.16 | tuxick | VagaStorm: a bug :) |
| 13:08.51 | VagaStorm | um, that is the kde3 version... :/ |
| 13:09.18 | Sput | VagaStorm: I was referring to kteatime :) |
| 13:09.31 | VagaStorm | ahhh... kk :p |
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| 13:14.28 | annma | solsTiCe: I'm on this Led thing |
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| 13:14.53 | annma | solsTiCe: now when I put it to On I have the led on but not the numLock chars |
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| 13:15.21 | annma | solsTiCe: is it the contrary for you? |
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| 13:18.44 | Richlv | too bad livecd has no debug symbols. stuff crashes all the time :) |
| 13:19.08 | annma | no need to report without good bt |
| 13:19.20 | d1zzy | Richlv: lol |
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| 13:20.52 | x86 | so what file contains the KDE menu items? |
| 13:20.56 | x86 | I need to edit that |
| 13:21.08 | Half-Left | It amazes me why they dont, I knwo it's just to try but it's there to test and report as well |
| 13:21.24 | pinotree | x86: a plethora -- what's the problem? |
| 13:21.31 | Richlv | Half-Left, not enough room on the cd |
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| 13:21.49 | J-23 | Can somebody help me? My KDE 4.0.83 deletes all widgets from panel when I'm logging out. |
| 13:21.51 | Half-Left | Richlv: Should use a DVD then |
| 13:21.56 | Sput | Richlv: so why don't they offer a DVD then? I mean everybody has a DVD burner nowadays |
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| 13:22.05 | x86 | pinotree: I want to edit the system-wide KDE menu (kicker) |
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| 13:22.05 | Richlv | Half-Left, i don't have a dvd writer ;> |
| 13:22.14 | Sput | or offer both then :) |
| 13:22.18 | Richlv | Sput, there, i don't |
| 13:22.19 | Half-Left | Well yer |
| 13:22.36 | x86 | pinotree: I need to limit what users have access to, and when I edit the menus with kioskadmin, it does nothing |
| 13:22.38 | pinotree | x86: depends on what stuff you want to edit (apps, structure, else) |
| 13:22.39 | Richlv | ok, reboot back into 3.5.9 :) |
| 13:22.40 | Sput | can you even buy CD writers nowadays? a decent DVD writer is like 30 bucks here |
| 13:22.42 | Half-Left | Cd for playing, DVD for testing and reporting |
| 13:22.57 | Half-Left | Sput: Exactly |
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| 13:23.12 | x86 | pinotree: I want to put all usable apps in the main menu (basically just Koffice and OpenOffice), and remove all the submenus, control panel access, System Menu and Settings |
| 13:24.07 | pinotree | usually /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu |
| 13:24.30 | pinotree | but it's just the structure, not the content |
| 13:24.48 | Half-Left | Do they but openoffice on that CD? |
| 13:24.53 | Half-Left | put* |
| 13:25.15 | Half-Left | Or is it purely KDE? |
| 13:25.21 | x86 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.30 | pinotree | that is |
| 13:25.58 | oneforall | sooo is that phonon going to stay in qt or is it going to end up in kdelibs or solmething? |
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| 13:27.13 | x86 | pinotree: so you don't know? |
| 13:27.25 | pinotree | i told you, it's that one for the structure |
| 13:27.40 | pinotree | while (usually) /usr/share/applications for the content |
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| 13:28.16 | x86 | cool thanks |
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| 13:29.58 | litb | hello there |
| 13:30.02 | litb | i hear aaron closed his blog |
| 13:30.06 | litb | i'm very sad about it :/ |
| 13:30.26 | litb | too bad those retards always whine about every change on the desk |
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| 13:32.38 | oneforall | -DCMAKE_C_FLAGS:STRING= does it haave to use STRING or :whatever |
| 13:33.03 | x86 | pinotree: removed most of those, but still seeing "Development", "Graphics", "Internet", "Settings", "System Menu", "Utilities", "System", "Control Center", and other items |
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| 13:33.09 | FiNeX | hi |
| 13:34.00 | x86 | how do I remove those? |
| 13:34.44 | x86 | wait |
| 13:34.47 | x86 | found it ;) |
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| 13:37.31 | x86 | pinotree: thanks man |
| 13:37.40 | pinotree | np |
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| 13:40.33 | dirk_ | what is a good app to (pre)view a picture fast? |
| 13:40.38 | dirk_ | on kde? |
| 13:40.41 | Yagami | gwenview |
| 13:40.44 | Yagami | or dolphin |
| 13:40.55 | dirk_ | dolphin? |
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| 13:41.38 | dirk_ | ah yes I use it everyday, but didn't know about that feature :) |
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| 13:42.13 | Half-Left | gwenview rocks |
| 13:42.29 | Half-Left | Though I still can get the plugins to work for some reason |
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| 13:42.35 | Half-Left | can't* |
| 13:42.39 | sandsmark | plugins aren't ported yeT? |
| 13:42.40 | sandsmark | *t |
| 13:42.58 | Half-Left | they are in trunk |
| 13:43.02 | Sput | kdevelop rocks too |
| 13:43.24 | Sput | just felt like mentioning that again, since he just updated |
| 13:43.33 | Yagami | dirk_: dolphin is a great file manager , you can preview images very fast :) |
| 13:43.50 | Yagami | dirk_: but seriously , gwenview should be what you are asking for |
| 13:44.10 | dirk_ | yagami, yes I checked the feature of dolphin, great |
| 13:44.13 | solsTiCe_ | annma: i am still using kde 3 /o\ |
| 13:44.18 | Half-Left | I hope Krita2 becomes a GIMP killler, just needs alot of work ATM but only Alpha |
| 13:44.20 | Yagami | dirk_: of course , gwenview has that terrible problem associated with it |
| 13:44.32 | annma | solsTiCe_: it was in kde3 that you reported it? |
| 13:44.39 | solsTiCe_ | yes |
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| 13:44.45 | annma | oh damn then |
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| 13:45.05 | annma | solsTiCe_: when you check on, you have the LED on but not the keys? |
| 13:45.20 | solsTiCe_ | yes |
| 13:45.45 | W8TAH | good morning -- i am running konqueror under fluxbox on ubuntu hardy heron for my file manager -- how do i get it to start in file manager mode automagickly? |
| 13:45.46 | solsTiCe_ | i have not filled a bug report yet. and what's the use for kde 3 it will not be fixed anyway |
| 13:46.15 | dirk_ | Yagami, what terrible problem? |
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| 13:46.46 | Yagami | dirk_: the name starts with a "g" and not a "k" .... |
| 13:46.47 | annma | solsTiCe_: well it's also in kde4 |
| 13:46.55 | Yagami | it should be kgewnview :) |
| 13:46.59 | annma | solsTiCe_: I thought it was a porting bug |
| 13:47.03 | Yagami | or kwenview |
| 13:47.06 | annma | so I wasted my time here |
| 13:47.11 | dirk_ | Yagami, ah |
| 13:47.29 | Yagami | dirk_: hehehe i am just kidding ... its a great app , really , i like it alot |
| 13:47.42 | solsTiCe_ | annma: ? |
| 13:47.57 | sandsmark | W8TAH: konqueror --profile filemanager or something |
| 13:48.04 | annma | solsTiCe: I thought you were in kde4 and thatit was a porting bug |
| 13:48.08 | W8TAH | sandsmark, cool |
| 13:48.20 | dirk_ | Yagami, one thing I don't like of Dolphin is when you copy a folder and want to paste it in a terminal you get file:///home/dirk/nted, in konqueror its better... without file:// |
| 13:48.54 | annma | solsTiCe: if this bug is in kde3 it cannot be due to kde4 to 4 and thus it's a bug in the code which is related to X so not really easy |
| 13:49.00 | Half-Left | Smooth scaling nwo working in Kwin for XRender, not implemented yet? |
| 13:49.02 | sandsmark | W8TAH: "konqueror --profiles" gives you all available profiles |
| 13:49.04 | annma | due to kde3 to 4 |
| 13:49.06 | Half-Left | not* |
| 13:49.20 | Yagami | dirk_: sorry , i just tried dragging a folder into yakuake , and no file:// |
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| 13:49.51 | Fujisan | annma |
| 13:49.54 | Fujisan | hello |
| 13:49.59 | Fujisan | annma |
| 13:50.03 | Fujisan | i have a question |
| 13:50.08 | dirk_ | Yagami, you're right... dragging.... mmm |
| 13:50.20 | sandsmark | annma isn't the only one who can answer questions =P |
| 13:50.28 | annma | lol |
| 13:50.30 | annma | ;) |
| 13:50.34 | sandsmark | ^_^ |
| 13:50.38 | Yagami | dirk_: actually to me copy and then selecting paste doesnt work :) |
| 13:50.45 | Yagami | dirk_: but dragging works |
| 13:51.00 | dirk_ | Yagami, ok that what we do then |
| 13:51.09 | dirk_ | thanks |
| 13:51.21 | Half-Left | sandsmark: Yer but she can answer them more accurately :) |
| 13:51.28 | sandsmark | true =) |
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| 13:52.27 | annma | Fujisan: ask as I'll log out to test this led thing |
| 13:52.51 | Fujisan | oh ok |
| 13:52.57 | Fujisan | no just saying hi |
| 13:53.01 | annma | :) |
| 13:53.09 | Fujisan | i had a question but i googled and found it :) |
| 13:53.16 | annma | smart!!! |
| 13:53.26 | Fujisan | yeah |
| 13:53.29 | annma | :) |
| 13:53.33 | annma | be right back |
| 13:53.36 | Fujisan | k |
| 13:53.46 | Half-Left | annma: They just want your love :p |
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| 13:56.08 | Yagami | Half-Left: i want to be a developer of the Real ! it was promised on the kde-cafe topic that annma could make me become one ! |
| 13:56.31 | Yagami | if i am not a developer of the Real by the end of this month , i am not helping anyone else ! |
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| 13:57.52 | Half-Left | Yagami: I wouldn't know about that |
| 13:57.55 | oneforall | KDEDIR=/usr that can be KDE4DIR=/usr ? |
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| 13:58.15 | Half-Left | oneforall: usually it's /usr/lib/kde4 |
| 13:59.02 | oneforall | na but I was asking about the KDEDIR= :D |
| 13:59.16 | oneforall | some use /opt/kde4 D |
| 13:59.19 | Jucato | oneforall: no. the variable name is KDEDIR |
| 13:59.22 | sandsmark | Yagami: who is this Real guy? |
| 13:59.29 | pinotree | KDEDIR has no meaning in kde4 |
| 13:59.38 | Jucato | (or rather, $KDEDIRS actually, but defaults to $KDEDIR if not set) |
| 13:59.46 | Jucato | (or so the old docs say) |
| 13:59.59 | oneforall | for a profile.d |
| 14:00.25 | Half-Left | pinotree: You know about building in kdelibs, you can't build in the kdelibs directory, you need it in build directory |
| 14:00.38 | pinotree | yes, right (and?) |
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| 14:01.21 | Half-Left | pinotree: Well if you dont delete the cache file inthere it still says it can't build from the build directory, would that be classed as a bug? |
| 14:01.32 | pinotree | no |
| 14:01.37 | Yagami | sandsmark: i dunno ! |
| 14:01.45 | pinotree | if you fail to cleanup, it's purely your fault |
| 14:01.56 | pinotree | use svn-clean |
| 14:02.03 | Yagami | sandsmark: but it was on the topic of #kde-cafe that annma could turn me into one ! |
| 14:02.04 | Half-Left | Problem is the user wouldn't know it's the cache file |
| 14:02.17 | Half-Left | oh, thats the same as make clean> |
| 14:02.19 | Half-Left | ? |
| 14:02.33 | pinotree | no |
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| 14:03.30 | Half-Left | pinotree: What does that actually do? |
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| 14:10.30 | oneforall | ok thanks thats what it is KDEDIRS and for kde3 etc it waas -S :D |
| 14:10.51 | oneforall | I knew i Had seen it diffrent before my guess was the 4 |
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| 14:11.15 | Jucato | oneforall: actually even for KDE 3 it was $KDEDIRS, $KDEDIR was supposed to be deprecated but $KDEDIRS still fell back on it when $KDEDIRS wasn't set |
| 14:11.18 | Jucato | looks for the link |
| 14:11.33 | oneforall | hmm is it bbetter to put /etc/kde4 or just /etc/kde |
| 14:11.59 | oneforall | slack kde.sh .cshh was still using KDEDIRS |
| 14:12.37 | oneforall | I'''m trying tio graps it and keep as much of 3.5.9 as i cann ddfor the apps that just wont compile gbut canstill workkk |
| 14:12.59 | oneforall | hit a .cpp there :) 1Gb ram sucks now |
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| 14:13.56 | x86 | hmm |
| 14:14.10 | Aishiko | oneforall, yeah, if it can but how much swap have you got? |
| 14:14.15 | x86 | When I click on a link to a directory (including the Trash) on my desktop, it asks me what app to open it with |
| 14:14.21 | x86 | what did i screw up? |
| 14:15.37 | oneforall | 416meg |
| 14:16.07 | oneforall | 64bit needs at least 4GB :0 |
| 14:16.44 | Jucato | oneforall: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/userguide/specifying-directories.html |
| 14:16.50 | Half-Left | It dont need it, just uses it more efficent |
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| 14:17.54 | oneforall | I'd be happy with 1 more GB but its DDR and not worth buying it . got 2GB of ocz PC-6400 I bought for %54.00 and $30 rebate . will be buying a new moboad cpu and video soon I hope |
| 14:18.08 | oneforall | kde3? |
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| 14:21.18 | ircMonkey | Have you got a solution for: kaudiocreator -> lame -> unknown genre? |
| 14:21.23 | oneforall | QTDIR=/usr/lib64/qt4 thats stillll QTDIR right |
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| 14:23.31 | Half-Left | Everything is in lib64 with 64bit distros |
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| 14:25.29 | Flyser | Is there anything I can do about a slow kde4 with the nvidia blob? its really annoying (latest, non-beta drivers, 64-bit, 2.6.25, gentoo) |
| 14:25.40 | pala | i've added an applet called "Kima" tot the kicker... how can i change the dimension occupied by this applet? it currently fills half of the kicker... |
| 14:25.59 | Half-Left | Flyser: Slow? |
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| 14:27.04 | Flyser | Half-Left: yeah I have a G80 card and the binary drivers does not seem to accelerate XRender properly. |
| 14:27.37 | Half-Left | Flyser: There is a option for that but the xorg nv driver works alot better |
| 14:27.46 | Flyser | the whole interface feels slow and unresponsive on a quiet decent machine |
| 14:27.53 | Flyser | what option |
| 14:27.59 | Half-Left | onyl thing is it dont have 3d, just XRender |
| 14:28.02 | Flyser | the nv driver is also very slow |
| 14:28.35 | Half-Left | It shouldn't be |
| 14:28.37 | Flyser | I dont care about 3d but I tried nv today and its even slower (no 2d acceleration at all) |
| 14:29.04 | Flyser | plus it does not do power management, which sucks. |
| 14:29.54 | agnitio | I'm having a lot of issues with kmail.. quite often it seems to lock up "behind the scenes", meaning I can click around my different mailboxes, but If I try to open a mail, there is no sign of activity at all |
| 14:30.00 | Flyser | Half-Left: what option do you mean? RenderAccel or the Glyph cache? or sth. completly different |
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| 14:30.15 | Half-Left | glyph |
| 14:30.26 | Flyser | thats activated ... |
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| 14:30.40 | agnitio | Sometimes, switching back and forth between mailboxes solve the problem, other times, only a restart of kmail works.. |
| 14:30.53 | Half-Left | Flyser: Well i'm using nv driver and Xrender is so much faster with Kwin 4.1 |
| 14:31.23 | Half-Left | I'm on 7800GTX |
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| 14:31.43 | Bouska | hi all :-) |
| 14:31.48 | Flyser | I think 8xxx cards arent supported yet |
| 14:32.03 | Half-Left | with what? |
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| 14:32.35 | Half-Left | Nvidia gave vn drievr 9 series support with the xorg nv driver so |
| 14:32.47 | Half-Left | nv driver* |
| 14:33.31 | Flyser | well it works but its slow ... maybe XRender isnt implemented for cards newer than 7xxx |
| 14:33.46 | Half-Left | Not sure |
| 14:34.21 | Flyser | see the G80 column: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/RequiredFunctionality |
| 14:34.21 | Half-Left | Did you try enabling EXA? |
| 14:34.39 | Flyser | no. does nv support EXA? |
| 14:34.55 | Half-Left | thats nouveau, I'm talking about the nv drive that comes with Xorg |
| 14:35.05 | Half-Left | driver* |
| 14:35.12 | Flyser | argh yeah its linked on the nv driver page sry |
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| 14:37.17 | Half-Left | Flyser: Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" |
| 14:37.32 | Half-Left | Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy" |
| 14:37.34 | juanra | hi |
| 14:37.41 | Flyser | okay I will try in a minute |
| 14:37.43 | Half-Left | Try that for the nv driver with xorg |
| 14:37.55 | Half-Left | Opensource one |
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| 14:38.55 | juanra | how can i change the color of kwin buttons in plastik style?? please |
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| 14:40.21 | oneforall | yeah but I was asking aabout the QTDIR= part :) |
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| 14:41.51 | Flyser | Half-Left: what does this do: MigrationHeuristic |
| 14:42.18 | Half-Left | speeds it up |
| 14:42.39 | Flyser | okay lets see ... brb (hopefully) |
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| 14:48.34 | level1 | what packages do I have to install in the neon nightly builds? |
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| 14:50.55 | pinotree | level1: #amarok-neon |
| 14:51.57 | level1 | I'm the only one there |
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| 14:52.40 | Flyser | Half-Left: it is somewhat faster now but e.g. moving windows is still choppy |
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| 14:53.14 | Half-Left | You have kwin XRender option on? |
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| 14:53.29 | Flyser | though resizing windows is noticable faster now |
| 14:53.35 | Flyser | eh no |
| 14:53.46 | Half-Left | try that |
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| 14:56.33 | ginge | arggh need my fix of aseigo blog! Permission denied! |
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| 14:57.34 | mark_alec | ginge: he killed his blog after getting annoyed with people |
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| 14:57.43 | ginge | nooooooooooooooo |
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| 14:59.20 | pumphaus | can I somehow set konqueror as the default file manager in current KDE svn ? |
| 14:59.24 | Flyser | Half-Left: what was your last message? X crashed, sry |
| 14:59.42 | level1 | pumphaus: its not that hard |
| 14:59.51 | level1 | pumphaus: but honestly, dolphin is really nice |
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| 15:00.04 | level1 | pumphaus: I know, I wanted konqueror back at first too |
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| 15:00.28 | level1 | pumphaus: anyway, you have to change the file associations, its in system settings |
| 15:01.26 | Half-Left | Flyser: Just try XRender option in kwin |
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| 15:02.29 | pumphaus | level1: ok, thx |
| 15:02.45 | Flyser | Half-Left: this does not work at all |
| 15:02.48 | pumphaus | well, I don't like that every time I click on a file a new app pops up |
| 15:02.57 | level1 | pumphaus: just change the file association of inone/folder from dolphin to konqueror |
| 15:03.03 | Flyser | I get a balck screen with grey shadows of the windows |
| 15:03.17 | Flyser | but no windows or panels at all |
| 15:03.24 | Half-Left | Flyser: maybe just basic G80 support then |
| 15:03.44 | Flyser | maybe ... |
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| 15:03.58 | Half-Left | Did you edit out any nvidia driver options? |
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| 15:04.14 | Flyser | you mean the binary drivers? |
| 15:04.15 | Flyser | yes |
| 15:04.27 | Half-Left | oh ok |
| 15:05.37 | Flyser | "OnDemandVBlankInterrupts", "Render Accel" "TripleBuffer", "UseEvents", "BackingStore" and "PixmapCacheSize" "500000" |
| 15:05.40 | Half-Left | Could try XAA instead but I think thats default |
| 15:05.58 | Flyser | yeah it is |
| 15:08.02 | Half-Left | Flyser: Nvidia said they were goign to improve the driver in that way, but I bet it's just for 8,9 series |
| 15:08.21 | Flyser | they said that? when? |
| 15:08.36 | Half-Left | in nvnews forums |
| 15:09.03 | Flyser | yeah _when_ ? |
| 15:09.21 | Half-Left | You know nvidia, 6 months or so till the next release |
| 15:09.39 | Half-Left | 3 months maybe |
| 15:09.45 | Flyser | because they improved XRender performance some releases ago, but it does not accererate every XRender function |
| 15:10.12 | Flyser | accelerate* |
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| 15:10.43 | Half-Left | It's still crap, XRender is unusable for me with that driver so |
| 15:11.00 | Half-Left | And Qt4 uses it alot |
| 15:11.07 | Flyser | yes ... |
| 15:11.18 | Flyser | lets hope they improve on that |
| 15:11.35 | Half-Left | Or buy a ATI/AMD card |
| 15:11.35 | Flyser | or wait for nouveau |
| 15:11.53 | Half-Left | they are much better in that respect |
| 15:11.56 | Flyser | I cant replace the graphics card in my notebook ... |
| 15:12.02 | Half-Left | :p |
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| 15:14.46 | Flyser | Half-Left: well thanks anyway I will switch back to nvidia now |
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| 15:22.23 | Half-Left | ok |
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| 15:24.12 | v0lksman | hey all! Looking for a i386 deb for ktorrent 3.1 for Ubuntu 8.04. Anyone know where I can find one? |
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| 15:25.58 | pinotree | v0lksman: you should ask in the channel of your distro |
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| 15:28.27 | v0lksman | pinotree: yeah I have..no one answered...thought I would try here.. :) |
| 15:28.40 | pinotree | v0lksman: we cannot help about distro stuff, sorry |
| 15:29.00 | v0lksman | pinotree: no probs...worth the try... ;) |
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| 15:30.31 | zwerg | Hey there. |
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| 15:31.32 | zwerg | I'm running KDE 4.1 beta and I'm using the KDE style in Gtk-apps. It's nice but the colors differ. Any idea why? |
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| 15:39.51 | Half-Left | zwerg: You can set non kde apps to use the same colour |
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| 15:41.08 | silver_hook | I love KDE, I love what you're doing with KDE4 and I love you all people for making KDE possible and as awesome as it is! :D |
| 15:41.13 | silver_hook | It just had to be said |
| 15:41.22 | zwerg_ | Half-Left, via KDE somehow? |
| 15:42.04 | Half-Left | zwerg: In the colour option or the gtk options in system settings |
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| 15:43.33 | TimS | Is Kontact out for KDE4 yet? |
| 15:44.18 | cb400f | TimS: it's part of 4.1 and thus beta2... openSUSE 11.0 with KDE4.0 includes kdepim4.1 beta |
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| 15:45.09 | TimS | Thankyou |
| 15:45.21 | cb400f | 4.1 coming july 29 |
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| 15:46.17 | bob-bins | did Aaron finally spit his dummy out over the desktop folders? Blog is closed now. |
| 15:46.44 | annma | yes, he is tired of morons |
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| 15:47.10 | annma | it's not over the desktop folders bob-bins |
| 15:47.27 | annma | it's over stupid comments and bashing |
| 15:47.31 | djouallah | hi, all |
| 15:48.17 | annma | hey djouallah |
| 15:49.32 | djouallah | annma, comment ca va les petit ? |
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| 15:49.53 | annma | djouallah: très bien, merci ! |
| 15:50.23 | Half-Left | Not a helpful comment |
| 15:50.54 | annma | me? |
| 15:51.00 | Half-Left | No bob |
| 15:51.14 | annma | ah yes, probably one who is bashing easily |
| 15:51.28 | Half-Left | exactly |
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| 15:51.36 | djouallah | Half-Left, damn boby is here, he is my soul twin ;) |
| 15:52.33 | Half-Left | djouallah: Just dont make dumb comments like him |
| 15:52.42 | Half-Left | :p |
| 15:52.54 | djouallah | Half-Left, heheh i am 30 and have a wife ;) |
| 15:53.18 | annma | Half-Left: djouallah is OK |
| 15:53.27 | Half-Left | djouallah: Evil has no age limit |
| 15:53.28 | annma | protects djouallah |
| 15:54.03 | djouallah | send a kisses and hugs to annma |
| 15:54.14 | annma | :) |
| 15:54.22 | Half-Left | Now, now, no need to suck up to much |
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| 15:55.02 | shade | helo |
| 15:55.25 | shade | is this normal korganizer not starting with new kde sesion? |
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| 15:55.46 | Half-Left | annma: Get rid of desktop icon, then see if he's OK :) |
| 15:56.09 | djouallah | is downloading beta2 for ms windows |
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| 15:56.20 | annma | Half-Left: meanie! |
| 15:56.25 | Half-Left | hahaha |
| 15:56.32 | shade | djouallah: say how much buged it is when you install |
| 15:56.45 | shade | so anyone using korganizer? |
| 15:57.12 | djouallah | shade no it rocks, and guess what it is much easier to install beta2 on ms windows then linux ;) |
| 15:58.02 | pinotree | i don't think so ;) |
| 15:58.20 | Half-Left | You mean the KDE devs made it easy |
| 15:58.33 | djouallah | Half-Left, yes |
| 15:58.51 | djouallah | they have made a wonderful job on that ;) |
| 15:59.21 | shade | djouallah: i have linux, so i dont need to install kde on windows |
| 15:59.35 | Half-Left | I'd just rather use a superious OS :p |
| 15:59.55 | Half-Left | superior* :p |
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| 16:00.28 | shade | djouallah: with kde on winshit is any lover ram usage? |
| 16:01.19 | djouallah | shade, kde on ms windows is about app, there is no worspace ( kwin ,plasma etc ...) and really it rocks |
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| 16:01.51 | shade | maybe ill test it next week, when exams will go to history |
| 16:02.02 | djouallah | and i am on pc work, thus i can't use linux all the time, and all people are happy |
| 16:02.03 | Half-Left | Yer make it simple for the Windows people |
| 16:02.10 | shade | so what about my quesion with korganizer? |
| 16:02.31 | shade | and one more, is there way to set kmail to not make full screen on sesion start? |
| 16:03.08 | Half-Left | shade: kwin optinos |
| 16:03.11 | Half-Left | options* |
| 16:04.02 | shade | kwin? |
| 16:04.23 | shade | not kmail? |
| 16:04.48 | shade | dont get it |
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| 16:06.12 | Half-Left | windows options control how the app shows when you set them |
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| 16:07.51 | zwerg | Half-Left: I check in system setting ->colors the option "Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications", klick apply and close. When starting system settings, the option is again unchecked. |
| 16:08.47 | Half-Left | Not sure, mine stays on |
| 16:09.35 | zwerg | Hm, alright. You said something about the "GTK Styles and Fonts" tab. But there is no colors option at all, is there? |
| 16:11.03 | Half-Left | Just a option for colours yes "Apply KDE colours to GTK applications" |
| 16:13.23 | zwerg | Half-Left, What version are you running? |
| 16:13.33 | zwerg | Or is that gtk-kde4 of kde-apps? |
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| 16:15.28 | djouallah | please digg http://digg.com/linux_unix/KDE_4_1_The_Major_Annoyances , don't be fooled by the titled, it is a very positive review ;) |
| 16:15.54 | Half-Left | Zwiseli: 0.8 |
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| 16:17.32 | Half-Left | well the krunner issue has a bug report |
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| 16:22.25 | sandsmark | is there a debian kde4 channel? |
| 16:22.39 | zizzfizzix | #debian-kde |
| 16:22.52 | sandsmark | thanks =) |
| 16:23.00 | Half-Left | djouallah: the article doesn't say that it's a nvidia driver issue and not a KDE one, typical uninformed review |
| 16:23.48 | zizzfizzix | Sorry for the offtopic. d'you know what does it mean? (translating): |
| 16:23.48 | zizzfizzix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.48 | zizzfizzix | Why is a mouse when it spins? |
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| 16:24.13 | zizzfizzix | from interview^ |
| 16:24.19 | zizzfizzix | http://behindkde.org/people/jpwhiting/ |
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| 16:24.46 | djouallah | Half-Left, what to say users are ass****, they don't mind, if compiz works for them, they expect kwin to be the same, wether it is nvidea or not they don't care, life sucks ;) |
| 16:25.33 | Half-Left | compiz works with GNOME yer, it's a hack workaround, nvidia still has issues with it |
| 16:25.39 | pacman87 | zizzfizzix: they're both nonsensical questions |
| 16:26.05 | zizzfizzix | pacman87: thought so but I wasn't sure:) |
| 16:26.20 | zizzfizzix | thanks again:) |
| 16:26.27 | pacman87 | yw |
| 16:26.40 | Half-Left | djouallah: I guess they blamed the informous black screen window bug on GNOME/compiz then |
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| 16:27.31 | djouallah | Half-Left, the article is about kde not gnome ;) |
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| 16:29.19 | Half-Left | djouallah: Yes but it's the same issue, it's not KDE's fault that the windows are slow |
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| 16:29.28 | tzanger | good afternoon |
| 16:29.39 | tzanger | just a quick question about the kde desktop |
| 16:30.02 | tzanger | what tells the desktop what to put there? I have a brand new kde session (new user) and all of / is on my desktop |
| 16:30.17 | pinotree | kubuntu? |
| 16:31.04 | pinotree | tzanger: â |
| 16:33.01 | tzanger | pinotree: ? |
| 16:33.06 | tzanger | yes kubuntu |
| 16:33.26 | pinotree | then ask in #kubuntu, it's a known kubuntu-specific bug |
| 16:33.34 | tzanger | oh, I did not realize |
| 16:33.35 | pinotree | (yay for broken distro patches) |
| 16:33.35 | tzanger | thank you |
| 16:33.38 | pinotree | np |
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| 16:35.32 | Half-Left | lol they are using plasmoids from playground, possible BOOM! there lol |
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| 16:36.45 | Tanktalus | Is there a way to ask KDE where a given shortcut is defined? i.e., I tried to use a particular key for a shortcut, but amarok said it was already in use somewhere else - I can't find it, so I wonder if kde can tell me... |
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| 16:43.00 | Rasi | Tanktalus: its in kcontrol |
| 16:43.33 | Rasi | iirc its under regional settings -> gestures and keyboard shortcuts |
| 16:43.37 | Rasi | or something like it |
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| 16:45.18 | Tanktalus | Rasi: I've been looking in the system settings ... but I can't find anything using this particular key (XF86Forward) |
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| 16:48.00 | pumphaus | er, in which module is kate for KDE4? o_O |
| 16:48.22 | Kalidarn | kdesdk |
| 16:48.41 | pumphaus | ah, ok |
| 16:48.42 | pumphaus | thx |
| 16:48.57 | pumphaus | why was that moved to kdesdk? |
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| 16:49.02 | pielgrzym | hello |
| 16:49.03 | Kalidarn | because not everyone needs it |
| 16:49.05 | Kalidarn | :) |
| 16:49.09 | pumphaus | mh, well, ok |
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| 16:49.44 | pielgrzym | does anyone know a nice qt mind-mapping app? I tried kdissert/semantik but it sucks (can build only simple trees) |
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| 16:50.00 | Kalidarn | there was one i forget its name |
| 16:50.16 | Kalidarn | might have been a gtk+ one |
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| 16:50.50 | pielgrzym | Kalidarn: basically I can't understand why would one call an app 'mind-mapping app' when it doesn't support circular graphs :/ morons :( |
| 16:51.00 | pielgrzym | Kalidarn: probably labyrinth? |
| 16:51.10 | Kalidarn | maybe |
| 16:51.27 | pielgrzym | :) |
| 16:51.32 | Kalidarn | i used one ages ago |
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| 16:52.35 | pielgrzym | Kalidarn: probably I'll get stuck with some huge graphing software generator :/ |
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| 16:57.00 | djouallah | did the last marble ( trunk) works ? |
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| 17:00.21 | Kenjiro | afternoon |
| 17:00.26 | sandsmark | afternoon |
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| 17:01.51 | Kenjiro | I finally got kdebindings 4.0.83 compiled. I had to disable (through cmake) smokephonon and phonon |
| 17:01.54 | Kenjiro | :( |
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| 17:02.18 | sandsmark | you got farther than me, I disabled pretty much everything =) |
| 17:02.30 | sandsmark | Kenjiro: can I get your cmake-line? =) |
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| 17:03.33 | atom | is this the right channel to ask about ktorrent? |
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| 17:03.54 | sandsmark | atom: probably, I don't know if #ktorrent exists, though =) |
| 17:04.02 | atom | sandsmark: doesn't, I checked. |
| 17:04.06 | atom | aaaanyway, here goes. |
| 17:04.11 | Guest21669 | ll |
| 17:04.17 | Kenjiro | sandsmark: hold on |
| 17:05.11 | atom | I downloaded a torrent, but when I click check data integrity, two pieces fail to verify, but ktorrent seems to do nothing to repair them. Can I force ktorrent to redownload the pieces? |
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| 17:06.05 | Kenjiro | sandsmark: here is the cmake "line" --> http://pastebin.com/d79b720e7 |
| 17:06.13 | Kenjiro | but... I am running Bluewhite64 Linux |
| 17:06.28 | sandsmark | I'm running Arch =) |
| 17:06.43 | Kenjiro | Robby Workman didn't have to use all that on Slackware 12.1 |
| 17:07.01 | sandsmark | well, I just wanted to know what you disabled =) |
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| 17:10.44 | me | whatsup? |
| 17:11.02 | Kenjiro | sandsmark: I hope you can compile it hehehe |
| 17:11.09 | Kenjiro | that thing took me one night :( |
| 17:11.15 | Kenjiro | now I am going to compile amarok |
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| 17:11.34 | Kenjiro | I heard it's not working that well :( |
| 17:12.02 | sandsmark | Kenjiro: I've been using it for a while |
| 17:12.11 | sandsmark | I might've gotten a lucky checkout =) |
| 17:12.30 | Kenjiro | or the other guy was very, very unlucky *LOL* |
| 17:12.36 | sandsmark | ;) |
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| 17:15.59 | Kenjiro | oh my, LOADS of errors when compiling amarok :( |
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| 17:18.01 | poypoy | hi can someone help me please i have lost my minimise maximise and exit in every box i poen |
| 17:18.15 | poypoy | open |
| 17:18.28 | Yagami | poypoy: do a "kwin --replace" |
| 17:18.29 | liber | poypoy: you mean window? |
| 17:18.31 | liber | oh |
| 17:18.34 | Yagami | and it should appear again |
| 17:19.13 | Yagami | liber: calling the box's that appear on the screen of "windows" ? what a strange computer term ! :) |
| 17:19.32 | Yagami | liber: you should pattent that term ! |
| 17:19.55 | poypoy | it worked thx very much |
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| 17:20.05 | Yagami | poypoy: your welcome :) |
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| 17:20.20 | Yagami | i am just a karma whore ... |
| 17:22.17 | Kenjiro | guys, I am having problems to compile amarok --> http://pastebin.com/d7285fc37 |
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| 17:23.31 | Yagami | Kenjiro: maybe bad library versions ? qt version you are using maybe ? |
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| 17:23.51 | Kenjiro | Yagami: I have QT4 and QT3 installed (so that k3b will work) |
| 17:23.52 | Yagami | Kenjiro: i would love to get some more karma , but i left gentoo a year ago :( |
| 17:24.02 | Yagami | Kenjiro: which qt4 version ? |
| 17:24.08 | Kenjiro | hold on... |
| 17:24.33 | Kenjiro | qt-r816286 |
| 17:24.54 | Yagami | hum , is it qt4 4.4 ? |
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| 17:25.42 | sandsmark | who was it that was having trouble with firefox always coming out on top?: http://www.grep.be/blog/en/computer/cluebat/firefox_sucks_really |
| 17:26.31 | Kenjiro | amarok-r821308/Amarok.kdev4 |
| 17:26.31 | Kenjiro | -- Found Qt-Version 4.4.0 (using /usr/bin/qmake) |
| 17:26.33 | Yagami | sandsmark: i never had problems with firefox ... how do you want me to test it ? |
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| 17:26.59 | Yagami | Kenjiro: can you find out which package has kconfigbase ? |
| 17:27.08 | Kenjiro | possibly ;) |
| 17:27.48 | Yagami | Kenjiro: can you also find out if its using kconfigbase from qt3 or qt4 ? |
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| 17:28.13 | plvoy | i placed a .desktop file in autostart for the superkaramba weather widget... everytime i log in the theme choosing thingy comes up.. is there a way to disable it without enabling session restore? |
| 17:28.16 | Yagami | Kenjiro: you could always switch to opensuse and have weekly kde4 trunk releases .... |
| 17:28.20 | Yagami | sorry for the opensuse pub |
| 17:28.40 | Half-Left | I'm happy with konqueror for now anyway |
| 17:28.45 | sandsmark | Yagami: tzd was having trouble with Firefox always stealing focus from his RSS reader |
| 17:29.17 | Yagami | sandsmark: i dont think that it steals focus here , at least with kwin4 |
| 17:29.39 | sandsmark | Yagami: well, tzd was able to squash it with per-window settings in kwin, forcing it to always open at the bottom |
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| 17:32.29 | Yagami | sandsmark: but all windows open on top |
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| 17:32.44 | sandsmark | Yagami: no |
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| 17:32.54 | sandsmark | Yagami: not if you have sane focus stealing prevention on =) |
| 17:33.20 | Half-Left | Why should firefox respect KDE settings anyway? |
| 17:33.27 | Yagami | sandsmark: but i want then to appear on top !! :) |
| 17:33.29 | Half-Left | It's a GTK app after all :p |
| 17:33.30 | sandsmark | Half-Left: because of xdg and stuff? |
| 17:33.37 | sandsmark | Yagami: that's why you can turn it off =) |
| 17:34.10 | Yagami | sandsmark: ... hum ... ok |
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| 17:34.43 | Kenjiro | Yagami: I think I found the problem, thanks to your questions |
| 17:35.03 | Yagami | Kenjiro: so , what was it ? |
| 17:35.20 | Tanktalus | is kde4 supposed to have a 'dcop' executable? |
| 17:35.32 | Kenjiro | after I compiled the whole kde thing *grin*, I installed kdelibs3, so I can use k3b |
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| 17:36.03 | Kenjiro | I think it overwrote SOME of the files/libs... and that's why amarok got lost ;) |
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| 17:36.50 | Kenjiro | I think I will have to compile kdelibs3 and k3b myself, installing the kdelibs on another location |
| 17:36.57 | Yagami | Kenjiro: of course , i already knew it ... i just couldnt tell you because you have to find your own path to your solution |
| 17:37.06 | Yagami | Kenjiro: or some other lame zen excuse :) |
| 17:37.24 | Kenjiro | Yagami: ahahahha got some Yoda inspiration then? :) |
| 17:37.41 | Yagami | Kenjiro: here on suse , kde3 goes into opt/kde3 , so it might be a good idea to do the same ( and here kde3 and kde4 work perfectly side by side ) |
| 17:38.09 | Kenjiro | Yagami: exactly what I was planing to do, place kde3 back into /opt |
| 17:38.30 | Kenjiro | that was slackware/bw64 pattern, but then they changed it to /usr |
| 17:39.49 | Yagami | some yoda inspiration .. hum " compiling amarok from svn is just the start of your problems " :) |
| 17:40.17 | Half-Left | Yer, it makes lots of breaking noises |
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| 17:40.38 | Yagami | Half-Left: in mine, it doenst find any mp3 to the collection |
| 17:41.01 | Kenjiro | Yagami: I heard something like that from a friend |
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| 17:41.53 | Yagami | Kenjiro: now you made me sad ... |
| 17:41.57 | Half-Left | Yagami: I an't even view the playlist to play them :p |
| 17:42.05 | Yagami | Kenjiro: i dont have any friends that use amarok from svn :( |
| 17:42.06 | Half-Left | can't* |
| 17:42.30 | Yagami | Half-Left: amarok 4.0.81 doesnt seem to have that problem |
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| 17:43.04 | Kenjiro | Yagami: new error -> http://pastebin.com/d278205de |
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| 17:44.15 | Yagami | Kenjiro: is libmp3tunes from amarok svn ? |
| 17:44.36 | Yagami | Kenjiro: of so , your only easy solution is to configure it to disable compiling the servicebrowser |
| 17:45.02 | Kenjiro | what does the servicebrowser do? |
| 17:45.15 | Yagami | Kenjiro: dont really know , never used it i think |
| 17:45.20 | Kenjiro | (I need to know if it is important to me or not *lol*) |
| 17:45.38 | Kenjiro | I think it isn't important hehehee |
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| 17:47.22 | Kenjiro | now... how should I disable the servicebrowser? :) |
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| 17:48.14 | sabayonuser | ola |
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| 17:48.16 | sabayonuser | puta |
| 17:48.24 | sabayonuser | bitch |
| 17:48.27 | sabayonuser | whore |
| 17:48.34 | liber | nice |
| 17:48.38 | Kenjiro | so polite |
| 17:48.42 | sabayonuser | nice |
| 17:48.46 | sabayonuser | what |
| 17:49.02 | sabayonuser | you say nice to me |
| 17:49.20 | liber | with just a tiny bit of sarcasm |
| 17:49.26 | firephoto | can someone summon a mod to get rid of this tool? |
| 17:49.53 | Fujisan | sabayonuser |
| 17:49.55 | Fujisan | n00b |
| 17:49.56 | Fujisan | D: |
| 17:50.05 | Kenjiro | Yagami: any idea on how to disable servicebrowser on amarok's compilation? |
| 17:50.28 | Kalidarn | sabayon users are all nub |
| 17:50.54 | liber | lets not lower ourselves to that level |
| 17:51.09 | Yagami | Kenjiro: not really ... |
| 17:51.23 | Fujisan | which level liber? |
| 17:51.25 | Kenjiro | OUCH |
| 17:51.26 | Kenjiro | hehehehe |
| 17:51.27 | Kalidarn | liber: whenever they come into the #gentoo channel they get told to fark off ;) |
| 17:51.31 | Fujisan | what is a high level according to you? |
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| 17:51.48 | Kalidarn | or in here ;P asking some random question not related to kde |
| 17:52.01 | Kalidarn | and then they have a tantrum, ive seen it happen too many times |
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| 17:52.07 | Yagami | Kenjiro: maybe you should try #amarok |
| 17:52.22 | Yagami | Kenjiro: i never really used cmake ... does cmake has a ./configure ? |
| 17:52.34 | liber | Fujisan: namecalling. |
| 17:52.43 | Kenjiro | Yagami: not that I know off |
| 17:52.48 | Kenjiro | I will try #amarok, thanks |
| 17:52.52 | Yagami | Kenjiro: or just do a make -k ( -k for keep going even if errors appear ) |
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| 17:53.23 | Fujisan | liber a high level is living in the west and thinking the whole world has a wholesome life and not caring about the fact that the utopian luxuries are fueled by a vast dystopian world in which billions dont have clean drinking water and 100 millions have 1 less meal a day because we consume so much oil it drives up food prices ? |
| 17:53.29 | Kenjiro | Yagami: how nasty *LOL* |
| 17:53.39 | Yagami | Kenjiro: sorry for my lack of level :( |
| 17:53.53 | Fujisan | nice try though liber |
| 17:53.54 | Yagami | Kenjiro: if make -k works , then just do a make -k install |
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| 17:54.04 | Fujisan | i wasnt namecalling |
| 17:54.14 | Fujisan | sabayonuser are newbies=n00bs for the most part |
| 17:54.33 | Kalidarn | " 1 less meal a day because we consume so much oil it drives up food prices ?" |
| 17:54.38 | Kalidarn | yes and that isn't the problem of the US :P |
| 17:54.40 | Fujisan | yep |
| 17:54.40 | Yagami | shouldnt this conversation be on #kde-cafe ?! and this channel for the real high level guru kde developers ? |
| 17:54.50 | Kalidarn | its mainly the warlords in the area raping the people's rsources... |
| 17:54.54 | Fujisan | this conversation is taboo i know Yagami |
| 17:55.06 | firephoto | especially when he is /msg'n everyone in the list here most likely because i'm not that special. |
| 17:55.07 | Fujisan | oh know i am breaking the distortion field of the matrix D: |
| 17:55.11 | Fujisan | no* |
| 17:55.12 | Yagami | Fujisan: just asking , i didnt know it was taboo |
| 17:55.22 | Kalidarn | people like that mugabe wang |
| 17:55.35 | Fujisan | Yagami |
| 17:56.07 | Fujisan | Yagami which conversation i just stated some facts |
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| 17:56.45 | Fujisan | i get the reply to this allover the place |
| 17:56.59 | Fujisan | booted banned kicked whenever i even mention it |
| 17:57.06 | Fujisan | very disturbing |
| 17:57.08 | Yagami | Fujisan: hum ... ok ... dont want any trouble :) |
| 17:57.09 | liber | Fujisan: that had really nothing to do with it. |
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| 17:57.16 | Fujisan | everything |
| 17:57.33 | liber | kde-cafe? |
| 17:57.49 | Fujisan | you were thinking the west has some kind of highly developed ethical and moral level |
| 17:57.57 | Fujisan | and i needed to correct that with facts |
| 17:57.58 | Yagami | lets just talk about something we all agree on .... lets bash gnome ! :) |
| 17:58.00 | Fujisan | so i did |
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| 17:58.23 | pacman87 | Fujisan: try in #savetheworld, this is #kde |
| 17:58.47 | liber | no. you totally missed the spectra of my statement. The end |
| 17:58.48 | Fujisan | it has nothing to do with save the world |
| 17:58.49 | liber | lol :) |
| 17:58.50 | Yagami | Fujisan: which west ? west of america or west of japan ? |
| 17:59.13 | Luis-c | hey |
| 17:59.25 | Yagami | Fujisan: because i am east of america ! but i am west of japan ! |
| 17:59.29 | sandsmark | norway, west of norway |
| 17:59.30 | Fujisan | i'll pay a million bucks to see the look on your face when you realize the era of western-utopia is over with the next decade when cheap oil runs out |
| 17:59.33 | sandsmark | the world spins around norway |
| 17:59.36 | Luis-c | calmate nomas fujisan |
| 17:59.43 | Fujisan | keep living in your safe dreamworld |
| 17:59.47 | Luis-c | no me digas mas noob |
| 17:59.56 | Luis-c | nde puta |
| 17:59.56 | sandsmark | Fujisan: you mean the era of *middle-eastern* utopia? |
| 18:00.01 | Luis-c | chupa che rembo |
| 18:00.09 | Dhraakellian | is it possible to make the scrollwheel change focus in 4.1beta2? |
| 18:00.09 | Yagami | Fujisan: last sunday i did 110 km in a bike .... so , yeah , let the oil end ! i dont care ! i do more km's in a bike than in my car in a week :) |
| 18:00.11 | Luis-c | whore |
| 18:00.19 | Luis-c | bitch |
| 18:00.22 | Fujisan | you dont get it huh |
| 18:00.26 | Fujisan | its not just fuel |
| 18:00.28 | Fujisan | haha moron |
| 18:00.36 | Yagami | Luis-c: trying hard for a ban , hum ?! :) |
| 18:00.44 | Fujisan | your bike dude couldnt be made without oil |
| 18:00.45 | sandsmark | Fujisan: the oil in norway will last much longer than a decade, though |
| 18:00.50 | Half-Left | Stop the name calling please |
| 18:00.54 | Fujisan | sandsmark keep on dreaming |
| 18:01.00 | Fujisan | ikke sant prov igjen sandsmark |
| 18:01.01 | Fujisan | :P |
| 18:01.05 | sandsmark | :P |
| 18:01.06 | Yagami | Fujisan: but i already have it , so all the oil can end now without problems ! |
| 18:01.10 | Luis-c | do you understand spanish |
| 18:01.15 | Luis-c | or guarani |
| 18:01.17 | Yagami | Luis-c: sim |
| 18:01.19 | Fujisan | a little |
| 18:01.20 | sandsmark | Fujisan: I know several people educating themselves to find oil =) |
| 18:01.31 | Fujisan | yeah on mars sandsmark |
| 18:01.37 | Fujisan | there is plenty of oil there |
| 18:01.41 | sandsmark | no, in nordsjøen =) |
| 18:01.44 | Luis-c | yes or no |
| 18:01.45 | Fujisan | =0 |
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| 18:02.12 | liber | not suitable to have this discussion here though. #kde-cafe, anyone? |
| 18:02.15 | Fujisan | but still there wont be enough for everyone |
| 18:02.19 | Fujisan | liber |
| 18:02.26 | Fujisan | get a hat and ban me |
| 18:02.27 | sandsmark | Fujisan: that just means we'll get richer =) |
| 18:02.31 | Half-Left | If you want to talk about oil go to #oil-disputes |
| 18:02.35 | Fujisan | otherwise just use ignore |
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| 18:02.40 | sandsmark | or #not-physics |
| 18:02.48 | Luis-c | whore |
| 18:02.55 | Luis-c | is puta in english |
| 18:03.02 | Luis-c | or bitch |
| 18:03.09 | Fujisan | mariku is what you are Luis-c D: |
| 18:03.23 | Luis-c | and |
| 18:03.25 | Fujisan | lol |
| 18:03.26 | Luis-c | yes |
| 18:03.29 | blauzahl-laptop | wtf? |
| 18:03.36 | Luis-c | do you have a problem with that |
| 18:03.41 | blauzahl-laptop | take it all to #kde-chat, please |
| 18:03.41 | Fujisan | no |
| 18:03.44 | sandsmark | blauzahl-laptop: ttf =) |
| 18:03.55 | Fujisan | blauzahl-laptop ??? |
| 18:04.08 | Fujisan | blauzahl-laptop are you the local authority around here |
| 18:04.19 | firephoto | it's an intentional team of channel trolls I guess. no ops around? |
| 18:04.20 | Fujisan | this concerns all people |
| 18:04.37 | sandsmark | Fujisan: blauzahl is an authority, yes |
| 18:04.41 | Fujisan | so i chat about it where ever when ever have a problem with it ban me stigma as a troll ignore me |
| 18:04.43 | Fujisan | i dont care |
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| 18:05.03 | Luis-c | wy the color of yours names |
| 18:05.04 | sandsmark | Fujisan: you're annoying and uninformed |
| 18:05.07 | Luis-c | why |
| 18:05.09 | liber | Fujisan: no, but it is stated in the topic to keep off-topic discussions elsewhere. It is called respect in other words |
| 18:05.12 | Fujisan | so are you liber |
| 18:05.13 | blauzahl-laptop | Fujisan: don't worry, i'm grabbing an op for here, i'm i'll find out who gets kickbanned or you can move to #kde-chat NOW |
| 18:05.27 | Fujisan | liber you are well informed by the american media |
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| 18:05.32 | Fujisan | give me a break |
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| 18:05.49 | Luis-c | bitch and whore |
| 18:05.54 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:05.58 | sandsmark | waits for the b&hammer |
| 18:05.59 | Luis-c | krajo |
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| 18:06.21 | Half-Left | pinotree: Ping.... |
| 18:06.30 | Fujisan | blauzahl-laptop your sentence made little sense to me |
| 18:06.35 | Fujisan | i'm i'll ? |
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| 18:06.45 | pinotree | Fujisan: do you want a break? sure! |
| 18:06.50 | Fujisan | :( |
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| 18:06.58 | firephoto | Fujisan and Luis-c. see ya |
| 18:07.18 | Luis-c | vamos a ablar en espa; |
| 18:07.20 | Luis-c | ol |
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| 18:07.46 | Luis-c | q pasa firephoto |
| 18:07.49 | Yagami | hum... this really goes with all the blogs latelly about " do we really need all the users " ? |
| 18:07.49 | pinotree | Luis-c: want a break as well, or you can calm down on your own? |
| 18:08.00 | Yagami | good annma is here , he will save us !!! |
| 18:08.10 | firephoto | he's spamming pm's . i'm sure i'm not the only one here getting them. |
| 18:08.26 | Half-Left | Yagami: She |
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| 18:08.32 | Luis-c | in spanish please i dont understand pinotree |
| 18:08.39 | pinotree | Luis-c: #kde-es |
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| 18:08.58 | annma | she |
| 18:08.58 | Yagami | Half-Left: i know , but i wanted to look uninformed :) |
| 18:09.30 | Guest95379 | Hiyas |
| 18:09.30 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.37 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.38 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.39 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.40 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.43 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.45 | Luis-c | i want a ban |
| 18:09.46 | *** mode/#kde [+o annma] by ChanServ |
| 18:09.46 | *** kick/#kde [Luis-c!n=pino@kde/pino] by pinotree (bye) |
| 18:09.49 | Alethes | ignores are better |
| 18:09.57 | pinotree | ow, is this a day?! |
| 18:10.06 | Yagami | Half-Left: after all , i do read her blogs :) |
| 18:10.13 | Half-Left | :p |
| 18:10.16 | blauzahl-laptop | thanks pino ;) |
| 18:10.23 | djouallah | annma, btw i saw your bug report about marble crash, does it works now |
| 18:10.24 | loktor | Hi ! Does anyone know how to set global shortcuts for Kmix ? I'm using KDE4.0.81 on Archlinux |
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| 18:10.37 | aleksanteri | oh it seems that even freenode is not *completely* free of those guys |
| 18:10.51 | annma | djouallah: I don't know, I did not retry |
| 18:10.53 | sabayonuser | hello |
| 18:10.59 | annma | what was the crash already? |
| 18:10.59 | Yagami | maybe we should only enter "high level" users here :) |
| 18:10.59 | Half-Left | aleksanteri: Never was |
| 18:11.05 | sabayonuser | i can here now again |
| 18:11.05 | aleksanteri | yeah |
| 18:11.23 | aleksanteri | Half-Left, but it's much more clean than... the network i "origin" from |
| 18:11.24 | sabayonuser | kenjiro |
| 18:11.50 | Yagami | maybe we should have to answer to 3 questions before being allowed to enter this channel |
| 18:11.57 | dolio | loktor: Open up the mixer, right click on the slider you want to control, and select 'Configure Shortcuts'? |
| 18:12.12 | Half-Left | aleksanteri: IRC's are full of arses, just like the net so |
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| 18:12.21 | djouallah | ok let's try again, did marble, kde4.0.83 works, |
| 18:12.25 | aleksanteri | heh yeah |
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| 18:12.51 | Yagami | Half-Left: you should say "like the whole planet" so :) |
| 18:13.02 | sabayonuser | kenjiro |
| 18:13.09 | sabayonuser | im searchin you |
| 18:13.19 | sabayonuser | searching |
| 18:13.20 | loktor | dolio: I tired but it doesn't work |
| 18:13.20 | Half-Left | Yagami: That to :p |
| 18:13.25 | Fujisan | i apologize to the room i was possesed by an evil entity who has left me now :) |
| 18:13.39 | dolio | loktor: Which part? Setting the buttons? |
| 18:13.49 | Fujisan | why can't i join #kde-cafe it says invite only? |
| 18:14.08 | Yagami | Fujisan: evil entity ?!? was it a gnome entity ?!? ok ok sorry , i really like gnome and all that :) |
| 18:14.15 | liber | Fujisan: no. it is #kde-chat. sorry |
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| 18:14.44 | aleksanteri | has had experiences of being possessed by an insane entity |
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| 18:15.13 | djouallah | liber, no it works for me |
| 18:15.15 | loktor | dolio: in the shorcut window there are 3 column: shortcut, alternate, global |
| 18:15.50 | loktor | dolio: i can't set shorcut in global |
| 18:15.58 | Fujisan | Yagami ever since i found out about the EBE's occupying the moon it had a strange effect on me |
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| 18:16.30 | Fujisan | is there an lunar almanack application for KDE? |
| 18:16.40 | dolio | loktor: Are you trying to set it to a special button? I just noticed that doesn't work here. |
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| 18:17.00 | dolio | I can set shortcuts like, say, Ctrl+7 though. :) |
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| 18:19.08 | loktor | dolio: you set it in which column ? I tried with XF86 touch |
| 18:19.14 | dolio | loktor: If it's media buttons that aren't working, you're going to have to go into the Regional and Language settings, and select an appropriate keyboard layout. |
| 18:20.07 | dolio | Well, you'd want to set it in the global column if you want a global shortcut. |
| 18:21.05 | loktor | dolio: this kind of keys works with Amarok. I don't have access to the global column |
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| 18:24.01 | dolio | I'm not sure what you mean. |
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| 18:25.46 | loktor | dolio: I can't set shortcut in the global column. (only shortcut and alternate are available) |
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| 18:26.06 | SimAtWork | weird problem with kde 3.5.9 |
| 18:26.14 | SimAtWork | when hitting print screen on this one box.... ksnapshot doesn't start |
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| 18:26.17 | SimAtWork | in fact, nothing happens |
| 18:26.22 | SimAtWork | any one seen this before? |
| 18:26.24 | SimAtWork | know what causes it? |
| 18:26.27 | dolio | loktor: Can you scroll to the right? |
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| 18:27.33 | nalioth | anyone got a minute to help me with konqueror servicemenus ? |
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| 18:28.06 | Dhraakellian | Fujisan: I don't know exactly what you're looking for, but you could search around on kde-apps.org, I suppose |
| 18:28.09 | pinotree | nalioth: just ask away |
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| 18:29.00 | TimS | Does the Dashboard Widget feature actually work? Every one I try gives me the same blank square |
| 18:29.03 | Fujisan | sup nalioth |
| 18:29.10 | Dhraakellian | wonders why scrolling doesn't change focus in 4.1beta2 |
| 18:29.12 | loktor | dolio: I can enter nothing there (in the right) |
| 18:29.14 | nalioth | i am having trouble with a servicemenu. when i put it in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/ do i need to restart my konq browser, too before it's recognized ? |
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| 18:30.42 | Dhraakellian | I mean, I suppose I can see arguments for it being this way, but it's a change from what it used to be, which was a tad unexpected and annoying for one who is accustomed to switching focus with scrollup, scrolldown when he doesn't want to bring a window to the top |
| 18:31.40 | blauzahl-laptop | you can see if a wishlist item was filed for it on bugzilla |
| 18:32.25 | Dhraakellian | there's an idea |
| 18:32.32 | dolio | loktor: I'm afraid I'm not sure what's wrong, then. Running 4.00.83 here, and clicking in the column produces something like so: http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1jz5.png |
| 18:32.47 | dolio | Then you click where it says "Volume Mute" and press the key you want to make a shortcut. |
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| 18:36.28 | Dhraakellian | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164261 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161174 |
| 18:36.34 | Dhraakellian | yeah, looks like it was intentional |
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| 18:37.49 | loktor | dolio: http://pix.nofrag.com/4/7/3/d7a0dd39985e5dc070a6f71317500.html |
| 18:38.17 | loktor | dolio: I don't have the right arrow in the last column and I can't set shortcut in this column |
| 18:38.31 | loktor | dolio: the black arrow, sorry |
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| 18:40.25 | checkm | hi |
| 18:40.30 | Half-Left | Euro 2008 time |
| 18:40.33 | checkm | does krusader supports ssh and ftp? |
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| 18:41.07 | Dhraakellian | checkm: yes |
| 18:41.16 | Dhraakellian | checkm: ftp:// for ftp |
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| 18:41.27 | checkm | for ssh? |
| 18:41.31 | Dhraakellian | checkm: and sftp:// or fish:// for ssh |
| 18:41.48 | dolio | loktor: That's definitely weird. You may be able to click anywhere in the global column (not necessarily on the arrow). |
| 18:41.48 | checkm | ok, thanks :-) |
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| 18:42.00 | Dhraakellian | checkm: well, sftp is just a wrapper around scp, I think |
| 18:42.06 | _jaNNe_ | Good evening ladies and gentlemen |
| 18:42.22 | _jaNNe_ | could I ask a quick question regarding folderview-plasmoid? |
| 18:42.23 | checkm | Dhraakellian: just what i need. ;-) |
| 18:42.24 | dolio | loktor: Alternately, you could try the global shortcuts section of the control panel. It should have all the possible shortcuts for kmix in there. |
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| 18:42.31 | Dhraakellian | checkm: glad I could be of assistance |
| 18:42.46 | Dhraakellian | checkm: all three of those should work in pretty much any KDE-based file manager |
| 18:42.58 | Dhraakellian | kio is nifty |
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| 18:43.15 | dolio | loktor: Global shortcuts is under the keyboard and mouse settings. |
| 18:43.15 | _jaNNe_ | does folderview automatically refresh it's contents if it's displaying a remote folder? |
| 18:43.38 | checkm | could it be compared with gftp for gnome? |
| 18:43.57 | sandsmark | what is gftp? |
| 18:44.19 | checkm | a gnome ftp client that supports ssh2 and other protocols too |
| 18:45.22 | Dhraakellian | checkm: kde's ioslaves would be more comparable with gnome-vfs, iirc |
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| 18:45.34 | checkm | i need something like it in kde and i found krusader |
| 18:45.51 | loktor | dolio: that's the first method I tried. But Kmix doesn't appear in the list of KDE components |
| 18:45.54 | pinotree | _jaNNe_: as long as the protocol supports file monitoring, yes |
| 18:46.25 | checkm | Dhraakellian: oh yes |
| 18:46.26 | Dhraakellian | checkm: Krusader is a little more general than being an ftp client. It's a full-fledged twin-pane norton/midnight-commander-style file manager |
| 18:46.47 | Dhraakellian | and it gets its remote stuff from kio rather than implementing it on its own |
| 18:46.48 | _jaNNe_ | Is it safe to assume that most common protocols support it :)? |
| 18:47.06 | dolio | loktor: Weird. I'm stumped, then. Maybe it's a bug in the version you have (is that beta1?). |
| 18:47.42 | sandsmark | _jaNNe_: I have a folder view with nepomuk-tags:/ on my desktop =) |
| 18:48.39 | _jaNNe_ | sandsmark: ice. I saw something like that on the planet some time ago :) |
| 18:48.51 | sandsmark | _jaNNe_: well, I had to check it out from svn and try myself =) |
| 18:48.56 | sandsmark | it is very awesome ;) |
| 18:49.11 | Dhraakellian | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23928 <---OOOOOOH! |
| 18:49.22 | _jaNNe_ | Reason for my question is that I'm wondering if folderview could be used a a sort of inbox/outbox in a networked environment |
| 18:49.28 | Dhraakellian | ancient bug report and fixed ages ago, but I never knew about that! |
| 18:49.30 | Dhraakellian | kewl! |
| 18:49.46 | sandsmark | try? =) |
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| 18:50.01 | sandsmark | _jaNNe_: also, try asking in #plasma |
| 18:50.08 | loktor | dolio: I find it weird too :) I'm running KDE4.0.81. Thanks for your help |
| 18:50.15 | Dhraakellian | dude, that is totally made of awesome |
| 18:50.24 | Dhraakellian | alt+scroll |
| 18:50.35 | _jaNNe_ | I can't try it ATM. I didn't know about the plasma-channel, I'll try it as well. thanks :) |
| 18:50.59 | nalioth | thanks folks, all that ServiceType=application/pdf stuff is confusing |
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| 18:51.29 | checkm | Dhraakellian: ow, thanks a lot ;) |
| 18:51.38 | Dhraakellian | checkm: no problem |
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| 18:55.24 | hagabaka | http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Goals says "Too many too mention in KDE-PIM", which links to http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Goals/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan#kdepim |
| 18:55.33 | hagabaka | that's not pretty :/ |
| 18:55.53 | checkm | it's safe to use kde4? i'm using gentoo and it's still masked |
| 18:56.29 | Dhraakellian | checkm: safe? probably. Worth it? that all depends |
| 18:56.43 | tbscope | checkm: yes, it's safe to use kde4, but don't remove kde3 yet. How you install it in Gentoo, check out the documentation in the forums. Or install from SVN |
| 18:57.28 | Dhraakellian | tbscope: iirc, Gentoo has different KDE major versions slotted, so having it installed in parallel should be very easy |
| 18:57.36 | tbscope | indeed |
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| 18:58.08 | Dhraakellian | remembers having KDE 3.X and 3.(X+1) installed in parallel in his bad old Gentoo days |
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| 18:58.40 | Dhraakellian | 3.(X+1)beta, that is |
| 18:58.55 | checkm | sure... i'm still using kde3, it's pretty perfect for me :) |
| 18:59.13 | Dhraakellian | yeah, 3.5.x will still be around and kicking for quite some time |
| 18:59.23 | checkm | ;) |
| 18:59.30 | checkm | why "bad old Gentoo days" ? |
| 18:59.31 | Dhraakellian | 4.1beta2 is a lot closer to the point where I could comfortably switch |
| 18:59.44 | Dhraakellian | "bad" as in "badass" |
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| 19:00.03 | tuxick | i guess kde3 won't be getting much new stuff though? |
| 19:00.09 | checkm | lol |
| 19:00.42 | Dhraakellian | tuxick: 3.5 has had some feature-creep compared to the minor releases of previous KDE3 versions, but I think that's pretty much over now |
| 19:00.49 | djouallah | hehehe, a smart guy has got the solution, whenever one ask a question about icons and such, give him this page http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/Is_KDE_4.1_for_you%3F |
| 19:00.58 | Dhraakellian | and 3.5 is in maintainance/bugfix mode now |
| 19:01.03 | tuxick | yeah, makes sense |
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| 19:01.52 | Dhraakellian | now has to figure out how to get mouse gestures working in Konqueror 4.1b2 |
| 19:02.14 | Dhraakellian | since context menu > back has a submenu |
| 19:02.28 | tuxick | i'll switch when it's considered stable on gentoo :) |
| 19:02.30 | Dhraakellian | which is rather annoying for quickly going back one page in history |
| 19:02.33 | tuxick | can wait |
| 19:02.40 | Dhraakellian | tuxick: or unmasked, at least |
| 19:02.47 | tuxick | uhm yes, right :) |
| 19:02.53 | Dhraakellian | unhardmasked, that is |
| 19:02.57 | tuxick | yeah |
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| 19:03.10 | Dhraakellian | no idea how quickly Gentoo is removing keyword masks on new KDE versions these days |
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| 19:03.32 | Dhraakellian | haven't used Gentoo for over a year now |
| 19:03.43 | Dhraakellian | hmm... |
| 19:03.45 | zarvox | I dropped gentoo about 6 months ago |
| 19:04.03 | Dhraakellian | khotkeys gestures in konqueror with rmb aren't working for me |
| 19:04.05 | zarvox | reinstalled it in a vm in practicing for the national CCDC |
| 19:04.10 | Dhraakellian | I just get the context menu immediately |
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| 19:04.17 | Dhraakellian | CCDC? |
| 19:04.18 | checkm | many stable packages are still masked/hardmasked in gentoo |
| 19:04.26 | zarvox | Collegiate Cyber Defense Competition |
| 19:04.28 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 19:04.42 | zarvox | we got 2nd this year |
| 19:05.03 | zarvox | yeah, gentoo tree breakage was what drove me to Ubuntu |
| 19:05.29 | checkm | :-) |
| 19:05.33 | checkm | is away: Gone away for now. |
| 19:05.34 | Dhraakellian | I was just curious how the 'just works' distros were doing |
| 19:06.33 | zarvox | Dhraakellian: I have no complaints with Debian/Ubuntu :) |
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| 19:07.40 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
| 19:07.58 | Dhraakellian | and setting gestures to use MMB activates autoscroll |
| 19:08.37 | shadok | Dhraakellian: http://rafb.net/p/HYMEP434.txt |
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| 19:09.39 | Dhraakellian | ah |
| 19:10.11 | Dhraakellian | the suse folks did some patching and backporting and released OpenSUSE 11 with 4.0.4 |
| 19:10.42 | Dhraakellian | it seems less abhorrant than I remember 4.0.0 being |
| 19:10.50 | zarvox | Dhraakellian: haha, yes they did |
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| 19:15.29 | Dhraakellian | looking at 4.1b2, I'm very interested to see how it turns out when the final release is ready |
| 19:15.39 | Dhraakellian | the final 4.1.0 release, rather |
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| 19:16.31 | loktor | dolio: It works now ! I didn't select the right "Master Channel" :) |
| 19:17.23 | dolio | loktor: Congrats. :) |
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| 19:26.52 | mick_home | what happened to "send to all tabs" in Konsole (ever since KDE 4 it has been gone) :( |
| 19:27.20 | mick_home | konsole (in kde 3.5) has more features than in 4 -- which i find odd |
| 19:27.54 | mick_home | i thought that this was a debian "problem", but i just installed opensuse 11 and i found it to be the same there too |
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| 19:33.18 | ssj | mick_home: Edit -> Copy Input To |
| 19:33.23 | AleSkandro_ealx | ciao |
| 19:34.18 | mick_home | ssj: not there for me |
| 19:34.32 | SSJ_GZ | mick_home: Which version do you have? |
| 19:34.41 | mick_home | Edit > (Copy, Paste, Rename Tab, Clear display, clear and reset) |
| 19:35.15 | mick_home | konsole Version 2.0 - Kde 4.0.4 "release 15.1" |
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| 19:35.30 | checkm | is back. |
| 19:35.40 | SSJ_GZ | mick_home: Probably wasn't present in the 4.0.x series, I guess. |
| 19:36.00 | mick_home | in 4.1 i didn't see it either |
| 19:36.05 | checkm | ok people, see you, thanks. |
| 19:36.06 | mick_home | it was under debian |
| 19:36.28 | mick_home | unless i somehow didn't upgrade a specific package |
| 19:36.30 | checkm | bye |
| 19:36.37 | SSJ_GZ | mick_home: I have it here, so I guess it will be in the final version of 4.1 when it's released :) |
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| 19:37.19 | mick_home | is there another term app that has that feature? |
| 19:37.29 | mick_home | afaik, konsole is the only one |
| 19:37.42 | SSJ_GZ | mick_home: I've no idea; sorry. |
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| 19:39.37 | localh0st | Hello |
| 19:39.46 | localh0st | Somebody here use qtcurve? |
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| 19:40.20 | agnitio | Ido |
| 19:40.22 | agnitio | I mean: I do |
| 19:40.45 | localh0st | And howto enable this style? |
| 19:40.58 | agnitio | from the control panel |
| 19:41.14 | localh0st | In kcontrol> themes> styles i havent got any "qtcurve" style |
| 19:41.57 | agnitio | then it is most likely not installed properly |
| 19:42.03 | agnitio | how did you install it? |
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| 19:42.24 | localh0st | From pacman |
| 19:42.26 | localh0st | Look: |
| 19:43.30 | Shaman` | hrm, some bad reviews of kde 4.x |
| 19:43.35 | agnitio | pacman, is that arch linux? |
| 19:43.40 | Shaman` | people are damned critical these days |
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| 19:44.00 | localh0st | agnitio: yep |
| 19:44.10 | jazka | nothing is enough for some people, yes |
| 19:44.19 | jazka | and they do nothing to make it better |
| 19:44.21 | jazka | just whine |
| 19:44.49 | agnitio | jazka: I think I'm one of those people, although idling in here makes me feel better about myself ;) |
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| 19:44.55 | localh0st | agnitio: look of manu of choose styles: http://www.max-page.cba.pl/up/upload/qt.png |
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| 19:45.12 | pacman87 | A reasonable man adapts himself to his environment. An unreasonable man persists in attempting to adapt his environment to suit himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man. |
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| 19:48.54 | zarvox | pacman87: interesting. |
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| 19:51.22 | daskreech | How can I query the dbus commands for an application? |
| 19:51.27 | p_masho | with kde4.1, is it possible to add a "menu" to the taskbar.. like on kde3 ? |
| 19:51.46 | localh0st | agnitio: You have qtcurve to choose in this menuu? |
| 19:52.01 | agnitio | localh0st: yes, I'm afraid I cant help much.. |
| 19:52.30 | localh0st | :/ |
| 19:52.44 | agnitio | localh0st: although, are you sure you got the right version? |
| 19:53.00 | agnitio | qtcurve is available for both kde3.5, qt4 and gtk |
| 19:53.18 | localh0st | Its only one version from my repo |
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| 19:53.39 | localh0st | i have still installed kde4.1, but i think its no problem now |
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| 19:54.08 | agnitio | well, I have no experience with the arch packages so I don't know, but maybe it's the wrong one.. |
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| 19:54.31 | agnitio | I think you should ask in #arch (or what channel they have) |
| 19:54.40 | localh0st | Mhm |
| 19:54.50 | localh0st | I will check it |
| 19:55.19 | localh0st | Now i will use kde4.1 |
| 19:55.20 | localh0st | :) |
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| 20:11.59 | magyar_ | hi, is there a live stream for amarok from euro cup? |
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| 20:28.33 | Camu\ | asd |
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| 20:28.53 | Camu\ | hey guys, what is dcop's port number? |
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| 20:52.19 | bauerbob | is kaffeine being ported to kde4 or is there a new application on kde4 that can handle dvb? |
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| 20:55.15 | tbscope | bauerbob: just a "brainfart" of me but isn't kaffeine replaced by dragonplayer ? |
| 20:55.38 | tbscope | and that uses phonon. If the choosen phonon backend is able to handle dvb, then dragonplayer is too |
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| 20:56.25 | Camu\ | hey guys, do you know what port dcopserver is connected on? |
| 20:56.25 | Camu\ | asdc |
| 20:56.27 | pinotree | not sure tvb is a goal of phonon |
| 20:56.34 | pinotree | Camu\: ? |
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| 20:56.45 | Camu\ | umm |
| 20:56.45 | pinotree | what is the _real_ problem? |
| 20:56.52 | tbscope | bauerbob: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/multimedia/kaffeinegl/ |
| 20:56.55 | Camu\ | how can i connect to dcop |
| 20:57.09 | pinotree | what do you have to do, for real? |
| 20:57.21 | Camu\ | np script |
| 20:57.27 | Camu\ | dcop porgram sucks |
| 20:58.00 | pinotree | you can use the "dcop" executable to call methods in apps |
| 20:58.03 | Camu\ | i'm not going to do any script kiddish things :P |
| 20:58.09 | bauerbob | tbscope: thank you, i just saw this message on their website: http://kaffeine.kde.org/?q=node/20 |
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| 20:58.20 | Camu\ | pinotree, yeah, but do you know the dcop port |
| 20:58.31 | pinotree | there's no port |
| 20:58.35 | Camu\ | asd |
| 20:58.41 | Camu\ | socket port |
| 20:58.43 | pinotree | again, _what_ do you have to do, and how? |
| 20:58.54 | Camu\ | it's not important |
| 20:58.56 | pinotree | it is |
| 20:59.02 | Camu\ | stfu |
| 20:59.03 | Camu\ | wait |
| 20:59.11 | pinotree | because your questions are making no sense at all |
| 20:59.17 | Camu\ | i want to create a socket that connects to dcop |
| 20:59.19 | Camu\ | simple |
| 20:59.28 | pinotree | in c++ then? |
| 20:59.31 | Camu\ | yes |
| 20:59.42 | pinotree | oh, at least, some info more! |
| 20:59.53 | pinotree | you don't connect directly to it |
| 20:59.57 | Camu\ | fuck you |
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| 20:59.58 | pinotree | you use the dcop library for that |
| 21:00.11 | pinotree | is he stupid or what? |
| 21:00.20 | tuxick | just rude |
| 21:04.28 | djouallah | ;) |
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| 21:10.05 | kdepepo | nixternal, http://skulpture.maxiom.de/ snapshot fixes the black HTML buttons |
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| 21:14.40 | dulei | hello |
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| 21:14.57 | dulei | anybody here ? |
| 21:15.03 | tbscope | no |
| 21:15.15 | dulei | what mean ? |
| 21:15.47 | dulei | what can this soft do ? |
| 21:16.03 | dulei | conversations ? |
| 21:16.23 | kdepepo | dulei, only if someone answers you :) |
| 21:16.38 | dcurtis | is there a way to specify search paths for KPart plugins? |
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| 21:26.38 | dulei | sorry |
| 21:26.51 | dulei | i use it first |
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| 21:27.21 | mon^rch | question: what is the command to start kde4 from a console? |
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| 21:27.38 | zarvox | startkde |
| 21:27.52 | mon^rch | hmmm ty |
| 21:28.00 | mon^rch | will try that |
| 21:28.07 | mon^rch | brb |
| 21:28.29 | dulei | where are you from ? |
| 21:28.52 | zarvox | dulei: USA |
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| 21:29.29 | dulei | China |
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| 21:30.00 | mon^rch | nnno kde "$" |
| 21:30.03 | mon^rch | er 4 |
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| 21:31.07 | zarvox | mon^rch: check your $PATH |
| 21:32.16 | dulei | interesting |
| 21:33.02 | zarvox | mon^rch: are you running SVN or a distro's build? |
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| 21:36.34 | TimS | In KDE4, GTK apps look horrible, is there anyway to change this? |
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| 21:36.52 | mon^rch | zarvox: I am trying to run a virtualX script and edit the "kde" to kde4 |
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| 21:36.58 | mon^rch | please help |
| 21:37.23 | Half-Left | TimS: GTK-Qt engine |
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| 21:37.41 | TimS | Half-Left: Sorry what? Is that a package? |
| 21:37.41 | zarvox | mon^rch: where is KDE4 installed on your system? |
| 21:37.55 | mon^rch | ummmmmmmmmm |
| 21:38.00 | mon^rch | i dunno |
| 21:38.14 | Half-Left | TimS: kde-look.org or your package manager may have it |
| 21:38.17 | mon^rch | shall I "locate kde4"? |
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| 21:38.20 | zarvox | mon^rch: what distro are you using? |
| 21:38.23 | zarvox | yeah, that might be best |
| 21:38.31 | zarvox | or just "locate startkde" |
| 21:39.17 | Cappyyyy | whats the problem cause i didnt saw :) |
| 21:40.00 | TimS | Half-Left: Brilliant, its there, thankyou |
| 21:40.07 | Half-Left | :) |
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| 21:41.29 | mon^rch | zarvox: ok found it.... tyty lets see if it works "ubuntu hardy" |
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| 21:43.16 | testi | konqueror crashes when I use the filesize view and move a file to the trash while it is still constructing the tree |
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| 21:45.15 | TimS | I am trying to build from source, I am following this: http://raptor-menu.org/download |
| 21:45.26 | TimS | I have done the CMake step, but make doesn't run |
| 21:45.30 | mon^rch | zarvox: tyvm for the help... running multiple x sessions now :D |
| 21:45.56 | TimS | Ah, no its an error in CMake. |
| 21:46.05 | TimS | CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/FindKDE4.cmake:72 (MESSAGE): ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in /home/tim/.kde4/share/apps;/usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps |
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| 21:46.19 | Half-Left | testi: Reproduce it and save the crash backtrace, submit to bug.kde.org |
| 21:46.29 | TimS | Could anyone tell me what that means? |
| 21:46.46 | tbscope | You are missing some important files |
| 21:46.52 | tbscope | they are in kdelibs I think |
| 21:46.58 | TimS | Oh |
| 21:47.10 | Half-Left | What are you compiling? |
| 21:47.16 | TimS | Raptormenu |
| 21:47.26 | Half-Left | Dont bother |
| 21:47.35 | tbscope | But I think you only need to install the cmake modules from kdelibs (or are they in kdesupport?) |
| 21:47.39 | Half-Left | it's not even a alpha |
| 21:48.01 | TimS | Is it in kdelibs5-dev ? |
| 21:48.13 | tbscope | As stated on the website: "KDE4 Development Packages , which includes kdebase and kdelibs version 4." |
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| 21:48.24 | Half-Left | TimS: Raptor dont work, it's code it not even complete |
| 21:48.35 | TimS | Oh |
| 21:49.26 | Half-Left | Be a while before it is, but they are working on it |
| 21:49.48 | TimS | I was trying to compile the latest revision of kcoloredit erlier also, as I was going to Doc it, but I got the same error. |
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| 21:49.58 | Half-Left | Should be completed by 4.2 hopefully |
| 21:50.14 | TimS | What about lancelot? |
| 21:50.32 | tbscope | TimS: try to install the developer libraries of kdelibs and kdebase (see your distro package manager) |
| 21:50.49 | Half-Left | I think it's in trunk/playground |
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| 21:50.58 | TimS | tbscope: Yeah, I am getting the dev of kdelibs at the moment. |
| 21:51.01 | TimS | Usable Half-Left? |
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| 21:51.20 | level1 | is anyone having trouble with some windows, in particular kmail, being invisible? |
| 21:51.37 | Half-Left | TimS: Some are some may destroty parts of your house |
| 21:51.59 | TimS | Ah, that could be a problem. |
| 21:52.04 | TimS | I quite like my house. |
| 21:52.16 | Half-Left | :) |
| 21:52.51 | Half-Left | Things go boom there :p |
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| 21:53.43 | SSJ_GZ | Lancelot is in kdeplasmoids, but compilation is disabled by default. |
| 21:54.18 | Half-Left | SSJ_GZ: Ahhh I forgot about them disabled plasmoids, api porting? |
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| 21:54.39 | SSJ_GZ | Half-Left: Probably, but I think it's also still a little immature, too. |
| 21:55.15 | TimS | Interesting, so SSJ_GZ how would I compile it then? |
| 21:55.24 | Half-Left | SSJ_GZ: Maybe kick your dog but not eat it like playground! :p |
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| 21:56.37 | SSJ_GZ | TimS: Lancelot? check out the whole of kdeplasmoids. Ensure you have all dependencies. Uncomment the line containg lancelot in applets/CMakeLists.txt. Do the usual cmakekde dance :) |
| 21:56.45 | SSJ_GZ | Half-Left: Indeed :D |
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| 21:57.09 | TimS | Ooh the cmakekde dance! Alot faster than the ./compile dance. |
| 21:57.20 | TimS | Which means less sword fighting :( |
| 21:57.39 | SSJ_GZ | And riding around on chairs :( |
| 21:57.55 | TimS | Yup :( |
| 21:58.01 | Half-Left | Yay my contributions are on your desktop most lightly, i'm happy :) |
| 21:58.22 | TimS | What contributions are they? |
| 21:58.34 | Gil | Hi all - I'm looking at my partner's eee laptop, which uses a Xandros KDE derivative. It's currently set through KDE file manager to mount a smb share at startup, but is timing out because the wireless takes a short while to initialize. Is there a function hidden away anywhere to ask for a mount at startup with a small delay? |
| 21:58.39 | Half-Left | just the wallapers cleaned up |
| 21:59.09 | TimS | My tiny contributions should be kicking around somewhere |
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| 21:59.39 | zarvox | Half-Left: you're responsible for the cool blue swirls? |
| 22:00.01 | Half-Left | zarvox: Nope, pinheiro's work |
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| 22:01.01 | Half-Left | I just made the KDE4 wallpapers looks much better, enhanced |
| 22:01.38 | TimS | Does the KGetHotNewStuff work for plasmoids atm? |
| 22:01.55 | Half-Left | it does but it crashes |
| 22:02.05 | TimS | :( |
| 22:02.22 | TimS | And Mac OSX dashboard widgets are still out by the looks of thigns |
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| 22:02.24 | TimS | things* |
| 22:02.27 | Half-Left | It needs a security method sorting out for it |
| 22:02.33 | TimS | They just give a grey blank square |
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| 22:02.48 | TimS | Oh yeah, potential vunrability I guess |
| 22:03.48 | Fujisan | pinotree |
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| 22:05.37 | zarvox | Half-Left: I'll say this: the default KDE4 desktop is the first one that looks good enough that I don't have the desire to change it :) |
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| 22:10.39 | Half-Left | zarvox: Yep, it's very nice |
| 22:11.58 | Half-Left | zarvox: He did vector sunset as well |
| 22:13.01 | zarvox | awesomeness |
| 22:14.24 | TimS | I have just got my computer set up perfectly |
| 22:14.49 | flea__ | youtube/fkeaz - kde makes things work |
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| 22:15.09 | flea__ | most complete desktop environment humans have so far |
| 22:15.12 | Kenjiro | evening |
| 22:15.26 | Fujisan | pinotree is amazing also |
| 22:15.39 | Fujisan | a real Leonardo Da Vinci |
| 22:15.49 | Kenjiro | I am trying to compile kdelibs-3.5.9 on a different path (/opt, instead of /usr) so that I can use k3b with KDE 4.1 beta2 |
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| 22:16.07 | Fujisan | Kenjiro |
| 22:16.12 | Kenjiro | I already installed qt3 in /opt, but kdelibs3 complains about not finding qt-mt, but it is there |
| 22:16.13 | Fujisan | congrats |
| 22:16.16 | Fujisan | ^^ |
| 22:16.20 | Kenjiro | Fujisan: congrats? hehehe |
| 22:16.53 | Fujisan | kde4 feels unfinished |
| 22:16.54 | Kenjiro | why am I being congratulated? hehehehe |
| 22:16.56 | tomaz | how can I disable Kwin composite via terminal? it's crashing and freezing here everytime I try to start it. |
| 22:18.01 | flea__ | prolly a reason for that beta in the name |
| 22:19.13 | SSJ_GZ | tomaz: Edit $KDEHOME/share/config/kwinrc - there should be a Compositing section - change "true" to "false" for "Enabled" |
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| 22:20.49 | tomaz | There's not, there's just $version and Desktops sections |
| 22:21.39 | SSJ_GZ | tomaz: Then I'm afraid I have no idea :/ |
| 22:21.41 | tomaz | I just created that section, let's see. |
| 22:21.51 | tomaz | well, I forced it to exist now. |
| 22:21.53 | tomaz | brb. |
| 22:22.20 | Kenjiro | here is what I get --> http://pastebin.com/d62e6504e |
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| 22:23.31 | tomaz | SSJ_GZ: nothing, whould you be kind to post your excerpt of kwinrc on some pastebin? |
| 22:23.53 | sandsmark | tomaz: you can use kwriteconfig to disable compositing |
| 22:24.01 | sandsmark | like that plasmoid does |
| 22:24.08 | tomaz | how? |
| 22:24.22 | sandsmark | one sec, I'll find the source of the plasmoid |
| 22:24.30 | tomaz | thank you very much |
| 22:24.38 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: Qt3 will install in it's own direcory anyway from your packages |
| 22:24.52 | SSJ_GZ | tomaz: http://rafb.net/p/Y7Brgu68.html |
| 22:25.00 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: it is installed in /opt/qt |
| 22:25.00 | duwts | i got problem with gnomebaker ..it starts 11 time with my os and i want to shut it down |
| 22:25.11 | SSJ_GZ | tomaz: Have you tried System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects, btw? |
| 22:25.20 | Kenjiro | but kdelibs3 complains about qt-mt, as can be seen in that "log" |
| 22:25.23 | tomaz | I cant log on kde. |
| 22:25.31 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: dev package as well? |
| 22:25.33 | tomaz | when I try, it goes back to the welcome screen |
| 22:26.03 | duwts | let me see |
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| 22:26.04 | duwts | hang on |
| 22:26.26 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: I compiled it from source |
| 22:26.54 | Half-Left | I see well I'm not sure about that then Qt3 compiled from source, maybe you missed a option |
| 22:27.05 | sandsmark | There was a lack of developer time for quite some time, which also explains the delay between the M3 and M4 release. The good news is that it is no longer the case, we have active and motivated developers again. |
| 22:27.05 | sandsmark | The previously stated goals for M4 are here: |
| 22:27.07 | Kenjiro | hardly |
| 22:27.18 | sandsmark | bah, failpaste =P |
| 22:27.24 | sandsmark | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/toggle-compositing/toggle_compositing.cpp?revision=822283&view=markup |
| 22:27.24 | Kenjiro | I used the same options my distro uses when creating the package. |
| 22:27.39 | Kenjiro | I just changed what was needed to place qt3 in /opt instead of /usr |
| 22:28.00 | Half-Left | dont your distro have Qt3? |
| 22:29.54 | sandsmark | tomaz: kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false |
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| 22:29.57 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: yes, it does |
| 22:29.57 | sandsmark | try that |
| 22:30.08 | tomaz | sandsmark: I really apreciate your help =) |
| 22:30.09 | Half-Left | then why not use it? |
| 22:30.14 | sandsmark | tomaz: np =) |
| 22:30.28 | Kenjiro | let me see.... |
| 22:30.54 | venik | Is there a special channel for kde4? |
| 22:31.05 | Kenjiro | then I could compile kdelibs3 to "live" in /opt instead of /usr, even using qt3 from the "regular" place? (/usr/lib/qt) |
| 22:31.20 | Half-Left | yes |
| 22:31.22 | sandsmark | venik: no, this is it =) |
| 22:31.37 | Kenjiro | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm looks like someone got the tougher and longer path |
| 22:31.39 | Kenjiro | LOL |
| 22:31.39 | sandsmark | maybe someone should create a kde 3 channel, though =P |
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| 22:32.06 | venik | I am trying to use kde4, and I lost the panel where minimized applicaations sit. How do I get it back? |
| 22:32.46 | Half-Left | venik: Add the Task manager widget |
| 22:33.07 | zarvox | thought it was the system tray applet? |
| 22:33.19 | venik | but I had it a minute ago, and it disappeared after I tried to delete a surly application |
| 22:33.25 | zarvox | or we're thinking different things |
| 22:33.44 | Half-Left | oh minimized ones |
| 22:34.15 | venik | It is where an application goes when you minimize it |
| 22:34.29 | venik | what happened to that one? |
| 22:34.37 | Half-Left | task manager |
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| 22:36.02 | venik | but it was part ot the lowere panel, as it is in Windoz, and the tak manager widget sits on the desktop |
| 22:37.01 | Half-Left | Well thats what plasma can do, you can use it on your desktop or panel |
| 22:37.35 | Half-Left | it's called Task Manager in KDE4, where your minimized windows sit |
| 22:37.53 | venik | How do I return it to the panel? |
| 22:38.01 | Half-Left | Add it |
| 22:38.06 | zarvox | right click the panel |
| 22:38.10 | zarvox | add widgets |
| 22:38.20 | zarvox | or drag from the Add Widgets dialog to the panel itself |
| 22:38.54 | venik | I tried to drag it to the panel-- now it is hidden by the penl |
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| 22:40.30 | TimS | With the switch user thing, can I have more than one session by the same user? |
| 22:40.50 | venik | the task manager simply disappeared |
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| 22:41.08 | TimS | Or will it complain as I am running the same applications on multiple settings? |
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| 22:41.25 | TimS | Or multiple applications on the same settings even* |
| 22:41.44 | troy | hola folks |
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| 22:43.36 | stou | hello... I am using KDE 4.0.5 and I can't drag select icons on my desktop |
| 22:43.48 | elbeardmorez | hi. finally found that disabling the composite extension allows me to load kde4. With it enabled, the desktop crashes shortly after the panels load. the X backtrace ends at 'FontFileCompleteXLFD' for which there are a lot bug posts, but no solutions. Is this a known issue to anyone please? i'm running git xorg and nvidia prop. |
| 22:43.49 | stou | is this a 'feature'... 'bug' or some weird missetting? |
| 22:44.21 | troy | stou: icons on the desktop are generally in a half-broken state in 4.0.x, it's more like a feature that wasn't ready when 4.0 was tagged, but is now fixed for 4.1 |
| 22:44.51 | stou | troy, oh ok... I can live with it until 4.1 |
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| 22:45.02 | venik | Does anyone know how to incorporate the task manager widget into the bottom panel? |
| 22:45.24 | troy | venik: have you tried dragging it there from the applet selector? |
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| 22:45.45 | stou | also... I really really miss the CPU load (ksysguard) task bar widget... are there plans to bring it to KDE4? |
| 22:45.47 | venik | No-- I just dragged it there from the desktop |
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| 22:45.54 | venik | which hid it |
| 22:47.11 | venik | this is way harder than it should be |
| 22:47.14 | Half-Left | stou: Yes but they are not mature enough yet |
| 22:47.39 | troy | stou: such an applet does exist someplace... check polishlinux.org's recent kde review (it's not linked on the dot) which has a nice screenshot |
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| 22:48.38 | Half-Left | troy: Pretty patchy review I think |
| 22:49.42 | Half-Left | Did you see that most anoying things about 4.1beta review from the same place? |
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| 22:50.01 | troy | Half-Left: yeah - that's why we didn't link to it this time - not that they were harsh on KDE or anything, it's just a little too bloggy and a little less journalistic... |
| 22:50.02 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: looks like your "idea" of installing qt3 normally and compiling kdelibs3 against it works *LOL* |
| 22:50.11 | Kenjiro | haven't finished, but looks like going fine ;) |
| 22:50.47 | Half-Left | good |
| 22:51.18 | Half-Left | troy: Blaming KDE4 for the slow window movement and using playground widgets in the review |
| 22:51.57 | troy | Half-Left: and nvidia drivers, which are the root of half of all kwin composite bugs |
| 22:51.58 | Half-Left | pretty poor I think |
| 22:52.20 | troy | Half-Left: that's okay - they've had some good stuff, so we'll just pick and choose what to post :) |
| 22:52.29 | Half-Left | troy: Exactly, which I've been doign my best to inform people about in here |
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| 22:52.57 | Half-Left | haha |
| 22:53.08 | venik | OK-- I found how to do it. Somehow, the PAGER widget was on (I don't even know what it does), but when I killed it, my task manager reappeared on the bottom panel, where God meant it to be |
| 22:53.12 | Half-Left | Friggin nvidia |
| 22:53.33 | stou | troy, Half-Left thanks |
| 22:53.43 | Half-Left | np |
| 22:55.04 | venik | This thing is half-baked, at best |
| 22:56.11 | Half-Left | venik: 4.1 is much better, it's only the start, alot of DE's had the same issues |
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| 22:56.27 | troy | venik: things are improving - for 4.1 I think all of the problems on the panel are already (mostly) fixed, the one exception that I can think of is rearranging widgets... although that might be fixed too and I just haven't looked :) |
| 22:56.33 | venik | when is 4.1 arriving? |
| 22:56.51 | Half-Left | next month |
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| 22:56.59 | Half-Left | end of |
| 22:57.11 | venik | ok-- I shall go back to kde3 until then |
| 22:57.21 | Half-Left | Assuming your distro dont packages their bugs with it :p |
| 22:57.33 | venik | Kubuntu 8.04 |
| 22:57.54 | troy | venik: yeah, some distros have been making stock KDE 4 worse in certain cases |
| 22:58.04 | venik | maybe by then some of the applications will also be updated, like Basket |
| 22:58.11 | troy | kubuntu is not entirely innocent of that |
| 22:58.19 | troy | basket was never ported, as far as I know |
| 22:58.45 | venik | that, for me, is reason enough to stay away from kde4... ;-( |
| 22:58.46 | troy | the program was written pretty much by one guy, and he no longer has much time to code |
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| 22:59.07 | venik | is tehre anything else like it under linux? |
| 22:59.16 | Half-Left | Use what you like, it's your freedom to |
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| 22:59.39 | troy | venik: it was never shipped as part of KDE... it was a third party app that borrowed a subdomain from KDE :) the closest I can think of is a gnome app called tomboy... |
| 23:00.14 | venik | I heard of Tomboy... is that being ported to kde4? |
| 23:00.22 | Half-Left | lol |
| 23:00.35 | Half-Left | it's mono, so no |
| 23:01.12 | Half-Left | There is a note plasmoid in 4.1 |
| 23:01.21 | troy | venik: like I said - it's the closest thing that exists |
| 23:01.36 | troy | venik: so you'd have to choose between a mono/gnome app and a kde3 app |
| 23:01.54 | troy | venik: and I'm not sure that basket from kde 3 would know how to talk to kontact from kde 4 |
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| 23:02.41 | venik | Maybe one day THuderbird will grow up and have sticky notes |
| 23:03.07 | troy | venik: basket wouldn't be that hard to directly post, I don't think - but it'd probably get rewritten in the process to use model/view, and graphicsview |
| 23:03.50 | Bassio | anyone here have experience here developing qt apps (or kde apps) in eclipse?? |
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| 23:04.28 | troy | Bassio: might be a half decent question for #kde-devel if they're not too busy :) |
| 23:04.33 | venik | I like the way KDE4 looks-- I just hate the way it (does not) work... |
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| 23:04.59 | zarvox | venik: patience, we're getting there :) |
| 23:05.07 | Bassio | troy: I am just afraid to distract them over there .. because I'm a newbie |
| 23:05.08 | troy | venik: well, some things don't work the same as 3.5, some things are still missing from 3.5, and there are a lot of other things that have been improved since 3.5... growing pains... |
| 23:05.29 | zarvox | the foundations are laid, it just needs polish. And time. |
| 23:05.31 | venik | that is what I said above-- half-baked |
| 23:05.39 | venik | I'll wait patiently |
| 23:05.52 | zarvox | :) |
| 23:06.00 | troy | Bassio: it's a decent question though :) and honestly, not a lot of people in here are developers anymore, since the chat traffic is too high - it's mostly users, trouble shooters, and a lot of idlers :) |
| 23:06.15 | Half-Left | If we were Microsoft we'd be forcing KDE4 on you :p |
| 23:06.34 | troy | venik: yeah, on July 1st, you won't be able to use KDE 3 anymore :P |
| 23:06.37 | Half-Left | and play extra for the plasmoids |
| 23:06.46 | troy | hopes the jokes aren't lost in translation or something :) |
| 23:06.47 | Bassio | troy: ok then I'll ask the question there, I hope it won't be nooby |
| 23:06.54 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: so, nvidia drivers might perform not so well with kde4? |
| 23:07.14 | troy | Kenjiro: they perform well, there's just a few drawing problems and such that pop up occasionally |
| 23:07.15 | Kenjiro | (sorry, I was paying attention to the kdelibs compiling) |
| 23:07.26 | Kenjiro | troy: just to know about it |
| 23:07.38 | troy | Kenjiro: for example, in my case, everything draws fine unless I have GTK apps open |
| 23:07.43 | Kenjiro | I have a NVidia 6800GT and the latest stable driver installed |
| 23:08.07 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: The opensource nv driver with xorg is faster in may respects with Xrender and Qt4 uses it alot more |
| 23:08.09 | troy | Kenjiro: which is weird, and annoying, since I need to use firefox for a select few websites - then things get drawing glitches on the panel and such |
| 23:08.10 | zarvox | I have a 7600GT and latest stable driver, and some weird stuff happens when OO.org is open and has focus |
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| 23:08.21 | Kenjiro | so, it is good to know to avoid going to the bug report blaming kde4 for everything :) |
| 23:08.30 | troy | zarvox: that'll be the same problem I have with firefox and/or xchat |
| 23:08.55 | troy | zarvox: but only when they have focus :) |
| 23:08.58 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: hmmmmmm I will see that. |
| 23:09.15 | Kenjiro | after all, I have not been using that much 3D on my desktop |
| 23:09.16 | zarvox | troy: I figured that wasn't KDE's fault :) |
| 23:09.21 | Half-Left | It only uses Xrender though, not OpenGL |
| 23:09.22 | Kenjiro | (not on linux hehehehe) |
| 23:09.25 | troy | Kenjiro: Xrender mode would give you about half of the effects that GL mode would |
| 23:09.47 | zarvox | I rather enjoy the Present Windows effect |
| 23:10.05 | Kenjiro | troy: just today I got kde4 installed on my comp. perhaps tomorrow I will start playing with the NICE STUFF |
| 23:10.10 | Kenjiro | (effects, etc) |
| 23:10.15 | zarvox | I'd love hotkeys to work right so I can use Super-Arrowkeys to change desktops, but I bet that'll happen in time |
| 23:10.22 | Half-Left | troy: What half are they, most work |
| 23:10.37 | troy | Half-Left: the half left? *grins* |
| 23:10.45 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: this morning I remember you talking here on the channel yesterday *LOL* |
| 23:10.46 | Half-Left | haha |
| 23:11.21 | Kenjiro | I was pissed because the "taskbar" was on the bottom of the screen (I use it on the top for ages) |
| 23:11.26 | troy | zarvox: I think you should be able to modify those keys, no? |
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| 23:11.27 | Kenjiro | and I couldn't drag it there *LOL* |
| 23:11.38 | Kenjiro | then I removed the panel and added it there, nice |
| 23:11.52 | Kenjiro | then I added the digital clock, and the darn thing was in the middle of the panel *LOL* |
| 23:11.54 | zarvox | troy: I configure them, but they aren't handled |
| 23:12.02 | troy | Kenjiro: you can in 4.1, you just have to hit the cashew thing first |
| 23:12.07 | zarvox | I think it's a known bug/unimplemented yet |
| 23:12.22 | Half-Left | troy: Wibbley windows dont work quiet right with shadows on anyway so strike that off OpenGL :p |
| 23:12.25 | Kenjiro | I then remembered you talking to someonelse to drag the widgets from the "selection window" to the desired location ;) |
| 23:12.29 | troy | zarvox: there are a few bugs with shortcuts still |
| 23:12.30 | Half-Left | wobbley* |
| 23:12.36 | troy | Half-Left: yeah, noticed that too :) |
| 23:13.02 | Half-Left | Dont work with Xrender :/ |
| 23:13.11 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: i will want wobbley windows :D |
| 23:13.24 | zarvox | I hate wobbly windows >< |
| 23:13.27 | troy | turns them off - they tear a bit on nvidia |
| 23:13.37 | Kenjiro | awwwwwwwwww |
| 23:13.48 | zarvox | I'm weird, I know |
| 23:13.54 | Half-Left | I want VSync but it courses kwin high CPU load |
| 23:14.20 | zarvox | Half-Left: VSync? Is that why kwin idles at 20% CPU usage on my desktop? |
| 23:14.33 | zarvox | Half-Left: it makes everything so smooth though! |
| 23:14.58 | Half-Left | zarvox: It locks the refresh to your monitor, yes it's smoother |
| 23:15.16 | Half-Left | And no tearing |
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| 23:15.51 | Half-Left | Yep it's a bug |
| 23:16.14 | Half-Left | Not sure if it's kwin or somethign else |
| 23:16.30 | Half-Left | Been reported anyway |
| 23:16.47 | zarvox | Half-Left: ah, I see |
| 23:16.55 | troy | Half-Left: Seli is a really good code optimizer, so it's only a matter of time before he tackles it - he's quite busy :) |
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| 23:17.25 | Half-Left | troy: I'm sure it will :) |
| 23:24.10 | Kenjiro | just to be sure.... |
| 23:24.19 | Kenjiro | kde 4.1 works with qt 4.4.0? |
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| 23:25.34 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: kde 4.1 works with qt 4.4.0? |
| 23:25.41 | Half-Left | yes |
| 23:25.47 | pinotree | kde 4.1 _requires_ qt 4.4.0 |
| 23:25.57 | Kenjiro | thanks |
| 23:26.14 | Kenjiro | I ask because I got a SVN version. |
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| 23:26.54 | troy | Kenjiro: if you're building you own Qt as well, you might want to grab qt-copy from SVN, as it has a number of patches that fix small bugs (while we're waiting for 4.4.1 anyway) |
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| 23:30.52 | Kenjiro | troy: ok, then I will stick with the version I got *grin* |
| 23:31.01 | Kenjiro | my new problem, for now, is compiling amarok :( |
| 23:31.40 | agnitio_ | I've been complaining alot in here about kde4, and I just want to say nice work, I've just started trying out the 4.1 beta 2, and it's finally starting to look good to me! Great work everyone |
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| 23:32.44 | troy | Kenjiro: amarok 2 compiles and works* here, except for when it crashes, it automatically launches gdb which sometimes grows to more than a gig of memory, and my machine dies from swap death (unless I manage to kill gdb in time) |
| 23:33.05 | Kenjiro | troy: oh my |
| 23:33.18 | Kenjiro | when does it crash? |
| 23:33.38 | troy | Kenjiro: less frequently these days, but yesterday it crashed when trying to close the app, of all things :) |
| 23:33.41 | Kenjiro | (if there is a specific moment for that *LOL*) |
| 23:33.49 | Half-Left | agnitio_: :) |
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| 23:33.56 | Kenjiro | that's not good |
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| 23:34.24 | Half-Left | brb |
| 23:34.48 | troy | agnitio: there's still some spit and polish to be applied, but we have three or four weeks before 4.1.0 is tagged to get some more fixes in |
| 23:35.30 | Kenjiro | right now I am trying to compile amarok without the "services" |
| 23:35.40 | Kenjiro | because it was not compiling because of that :( |
| 23:35.53 | agnitio | the only problem I'm having right now is my .... ati-driver acting up, every now and then when switching between virtual consoles or loggin out, it hangs |
| 23:36.03 | agnitio | but that's not kde's fault :) |
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| 23:36.45 | agnitio | troy: yes, there's always more polish to be done... |
| 23:36.54 | agnitio | by the way, who's in charge of the splash-screen? |
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| 23:38.56 | lsemple | is kmix supposed to be able to control the volume for the center and rear outputs on my onboard sound card ? |
| 23:39.15 | agnitio | I thought that the gradient in the background was supposed to represent a surface, on which the icons reflected |
| 23:39.32 | agnitio | but in the new one, all icons except the big K have reflections in mid-air |
| 23:39.37 | agnitio | it looks a little weird imo |
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| 23:41.41 | Kenjiro | agnitio: I will pay attention to that |
| 23:41.49 | Kenjiro | lsemple: why? |
| 23:41.55 | Kenjiro | isn't it working? |
| 23:42.24 | lsemple | nope: this is what they said in #alsa: "6stack-dig isn't correct for your codec" |
| 23:42.37 | lsemple | and they dont have time to go through setting the pins up for me |
| 23:44.00 | lsemple | whatever that means |
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| 23:49.05 | agnitio | hmm, video playing with the compositing effects turned on doesn't seem to work properly, or is that a driver issue? |
| 23:49.09 | troy | agnitio: the other icons are hovering I guess - didn't think there's anything to strange about it - and I like it better than the same version in 4.0.x |
| 23:49.19 | troy | agnitio: works here - could be driver related |
| 23:49.21 | sbattey | agnitio: what is the exact problem? |
| 23:49.28 | sbattey | agnitio: and what is the driver? |
| 23:50.18 | sbattey | agnitio: if you are using the closed source ATI FGLRX driver, try the new 8.6 version. |
| 23:50.19 | agnitio | troy: yes, the fading is nicer I think, but the reflection is a bit off, but maybe it's subjective.. I just assumed it was supposed to represent a surface |
| 23:50.59 | agnitio | the video flickers, and if I try the exposé-effect, the video window scales, but the video itself remains unscaled where it was before, and flickering even more |
| 23:51.18 | agnitio | sbattey: I'm on the latest version ( I believe) |
| 23:51.21 | sbattey | agnitio: what distribution and driver are you using? |
| 23:51.27 | agnitio | gentoo, 8.501 |
| 23:51.48 | sbattey | agnitio: are you positive, because I had those exact issues with the opensource driver. |
| 23:51.55 | agnitio | (also called 8.6, weird numbering) |
| 23:52.10 | sbattey | agnitio: hmm, my video works perfectly with 8.6 what is your hardware? |
| 23:52.39 | sbattey | And do you have direct rendering with the opensource drivers? you may want to try those |
| 23:52.47 | agnitio | Radeon Mobility X1600 |
| 23:53.14 | agnitio | how is your xorg.conf setup? xv overlay or gl? |
| 23:53.21 | sbattey | let me get it |
| 23:54.29 | agnitio | sbattey: is your driver working well in general? because as I said earlier, mine locks up very often when logging out/changing VTs |
| 23:54.47 | sbattey | agnitio: mine works great actually. |
| 23:55.04 | agnitio | huh, I wonder what I'm doing wrong... |
| 23:55.09 | sbattey | agnitio: http://pastebin.ca/1056828 <--my xorg.conf |
| 23:55.27 | agnitio | mine's been like that for almost every driver |
| 23:56.29 | sbattey | agnitio: maybe your xorg.conf is too detailed? as you can see from mine...i have almost no settings defined |
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| 23:56.48 | agnitio | sbattey: yes, I see.. I'll try removing it all |
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| 23:57.53 | sbattey | agnitio: my fullscreen performance sucks but other than that i have pretty awesome performance with this driver...way better than ever before |
| 23:59.01 | agnitio | btw. what media player are you using? |
| 23:59.28 | sbattey | agnitio: O |
| 23:59.40 | sbattey | agnitio: Dragon Player, Amarok 2, and totem |
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| 23:59.56 | agnitio | I just tried mplayer |
