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00:03.18 | frojnd | hello tehre |
00:03.25 | frojnd | I have one newbie q. |
00:03.34 | frojnd | Is kde 4.1 less stable than 4.0 ? |
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00:06.40 | HappySmileMan | frojnd: It's less stable, but it's not unstable |
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00:20.20 | Kenjiro | HappySmileMan: less stable but with more functionality? |
00:20.33 | HappySmileMan | Yeha basically |
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00:21.58 | Kenjiro | that's good :) |
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00:38.34 | *** topic/#kde is KDE 4.1 beta 2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | Help writing KDE docs: #kde-docs | Bug Squashers in #kde-bugs | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde | http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ |
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00:50.56 | fungos | any kde app to see ANSI files? |
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01:05.23 | Nyle | like in konquror file thumbail previes for all file types, but on |
01:05.27 | Nyle | is there a file gui browser that can recognize file types from the file itself rather than having ia db of known extentions? |
01:05.30 | Nyle | like konqueror |
01:05.35 | Nyle | or konq itself mabye |
01:07.01 | fungos | hm, Im looking for something like tetraview or tundra draw but KDE native |
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02:28.48 | njdube | I'm trying to put Liquid Weather on my KDE 4 desktop and I keep getting this error message. You do not have PyQT installed. This is a critical dependency for Liquid Weather ++. Please install it and try again. |
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02:30.54 | xdan779 | njdube: do you have PyQT installed ? |
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02:32.21 | njdube | xdan779, I'm running openSUSE 11.0 with KDE 4.0.4. I've installed all python devel packages as well as any thing mentioning pyqt. |
02:33.56 | Jucato | is it even possible to use SK widgets on KDE 4.0 at all? |
02:35.57 | njdube | Jucato, I don't know, but you would think when making 4.0 that a weather widget would be one of the first ones they make. They don't even have a weather widget. I guess I'm the only one who finds it useful. |
02:36.11 | Jucato | um... |
02:36.50 | hays | njdube: you could try porting it |
02:36.51 | Jucato | in making a first, absolutely new, almost from scratch, release, you would think making things work would be one of the first things they do |
02:37.02 | hays | hmm |
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02:37.32 | hays | I wonder how badly coded the weather widget is... if its not bad maybe I can take a crack at that; might be a good learning experience |
02:37.34 | Jucato | as for superkaramba on KDE 4, that is I think possible already in 4.1 |
02:38.18 | xdan779 | njdube: I am going to try installing it myself there is a native plasma weather widget in playground that seems to work well |
02:39.10 | Jucato | yeah, besides the fact that LQ is 1. a 3rd-party app and 2. dependent on Superkaramba, which is something "they" (who's they anyway?) need to get working first |
02:40.45 | njdube | Jucato, Considering the confederated nature of open source groups, I have a hard time figuring out who makes what. ;-) So I just say they. |
02:40.58 | xdan779 | I have an option to install superkaramba widgets when selecting install new widgets it seems to install ok but it does not show up in the add widgets dialog after adding |
02:41.51 | Jucato | so to presume that "they" should/would be doing this or that first, is quite a big presumption... |
02:41.55 | hays | where do the widgets get installed anyway |
02:42.31 | hays | there is a kweather thing in kdetoys... |
02:42.51 | xdan779 | hays they are installed to ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids |
02:42.53 | hays | trying to see if it made a widget |
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02:43.28 | xdan779 | plasma |
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02:44.10 | njdube | Having superkaramba in kde 3x made sense because as far as I know there where no native widget system in kde 3x. But now there is a native widget system in kde 4x I'm wondering why there is still superkaramba in 4.0. |
02:44.12 | hays | I have .kde4 and .kdesvn directory |
02:45.09 | hays | hmm.. nothing in that directory even though I have widgets that I can add, such as the themable clock |
02:47.11 | hays | perhaps a better question is where do the system plasmoids come from |
02:47.18 | njdube | Finely got a working copy of KBoincSpy on openSUSE 11.0. I had to recompile from source and managed to make a RPM for 11.0. |
02:47.34 | xdan779 | hays: only widgets you add as that user will show up there as for all the default ones they are more probobly where ever your installation of KDE4 resides |
02:47.48 | hays | yeah but where |
02:48.07 | hays | share/apps/ has no plasma or plasmoid dir |
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02:48.13 | hays | let me see if find will find it |
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02:52.03 | hays | it seems to just drop them in bin |
02:52.23 | hays | that's where kget is |
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04:02.32 | zen2242 | hi |
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04:02.45 | zen2242 | where does kde set there umask settings at? |
04:03.12 | zen2242 | i cant change the global settings on my linux distro to 0077 |
04:05.33 | zen2242 | it allows user group and others full access to everyones home directory, this is not acceptable |
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04:11.42 | zen2242 | anyone have any ideas.. |
04:11.44 | zen2242 | ? |
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04:31.30 | RabidWeezle | anyone know a kde applet for volume control? |
04:32.09 | pacman87 | so i copied .bashrc into my profile, but 'echo $QTDIR' gives /usr/lib/qt instead of /home/kde-devel/qt-copy |
04:32.41 | pacman87 | when i added 'echo $QTDIR' into .bashrc after the export, it gives the right one |
04:33.01 | zarvox | RabidWeezle: try kmix? |
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04:33.49 | RabidWeezle | kmix stays on the bar? |
04:34.08 | zarvox | aye, sir. |
04:34.14 | zarvox | or ma'am. |
04:34.40 | RabidWeezle | Sir, but your concideration that there is another sex is appreciated |
04:35.49 | RabidWeezle | smiles watching a dvd |
04:36.55 | RabidWeezle | thanks |
04:37.02 | RabidWeezle | ^_^ |
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04:46.50 | zen2242 | ok, umask problem was solved..... |
04:48.24 | zen2242 | umask problem was not a kde problem... cross linked files.. |
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04:51.45 | jacklis | hello is anyone here at all |
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04:52.12 | pacman87 | ~ask |
04:52.13 | apt | well, ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. |
04:53.22 | jacklis | hey pacman |
04:54.06 | jacklis | was tied up on the plater, he was unable to move and he was completely cooked with an apple in his mouth, he was hoping someone would eat him |
04:54.10 | jacklis | can someone eat me |
04:55.12 | pacman87 | read the first part of that as you maxing out your hard drive access |
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04:55.44 | wuxia_ | is there anyway I can rewrite key strkes; i.e. map space_down, space_up = ' '; but space_down, key_x_down, key_x_up, space_up as "momdifier3-x" ? |
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04:56.38 | jacklis | anyone want to eat me |
04:57.00 | wuxia_ | window 4 |
04:57.06 | jacklis | im about to go, I really want to get eate |
04:57.07 | jacklis | n |
04:57.13 | jacklis | SOMEONE EAT ME PLEASE |
04:58.17 | jacklis | what pacman |
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04:58.22 | jacklis | what |
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05:00.24 | jacklis | anyone going to eat me |
05:00.29 | pacman87 | anyone know why my export isnt' working? |
05:01.10 | zarvox | pacman87: your shell sources that .bashrc file, but $QTDIR is wrong? |
05:01.23 | pacman87 | yes |
05:01.46 | pacman87 | kde-devel@abacus:~$ echo $QTDIR |
05:01.46 | pacman87 | /usr/lib/qt |
05:02.05 | zarvox | hmm, does QTDIR possibly get set anywhere else in kde-devel's profile? |
05:02.15 | zarvox | like, is that the last thing in .bashrc? |
05:03.25 | pacman87 | i added a 'echo $QTDIR' as the last line in .bashrc, and it's correct there |
05:03.45 | zarvox | oh weird. |
05:03.58 | pacman87 | i'm running slackware, btw |
05:04.00 | zarvox | try running ". ~/.bashrc" |
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05:04.09 | zarvox | re-source the bashrc file |
05:04.17 | pacman87 | re-source? |
05:04.43 | zarvox | when you start a shell, it "sources" .bashrc, which means it executes it |
05:05.02 | pacman87 | i'm ssh'd into the machine i'm working on |
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05:05.41 | pacman87 | hmm, it doesnt print the echo when i log in |
05:06.21 | zarvox | odd...slackware use bash by default, or another shell? |
05:06.31 | pacman87 | not sure |
05:06.52 | zarvox | ps |
05:07.07 | zarvox | lists processes in current shell, which will include ps and the shell itself |
05:07.19 | pacman87 | default is sh |
05:07.28 | pacman87 | kde-devel is bash |
05:08.31 | zarvox | hrm. curious. |
05:08.54 | zarvox | this is /home/kde-devel/.bashrc we're talking about, right? |
05:09.01 | zarvox | just trying to make sure |
05:09.07 | pacman87 | yes |
05:09.26 | pacman87 | and thanks for the help |
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05:10.59 | zarvox | pacman87: still no luck? |
05:11.09 | pacman87 | nope |
05:11.35 | pacman87 | i dont think .bashrc is being run |
05:12.03 | pacman87 | and runnign it seperately only changes thing while it's running |
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05:20.03 | pacman87 | if anyone else runs into this, the fix is 'ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.profile' |
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05:51.25 | Dhraakellian | [#kde] knotify (kde 4.1beta2, Suse 11.0) keeps crashing on me, repeatedly (up to several times per minute) |
05:51.56 | Dhraakellian | erm... ignore the [#kde] tag... I did a full-line copy and paste accidentally |
05:53.04 | Dhraakellian | but, yeahhttp://rafb.net/p/h3iN1s60.html |
05:54.06 | Dhraakellian | http://rafb.net/p/h3iN1s60.html for easier clicking |
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05:54.28 | Dhraakellian | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149290 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154011 are two bug reports I've found. which one is more relevant? |
05:56.56 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
05:57.01 | Dhraakellian | loks around a little more |
05:57.13 | Dhraakellian | probably more relevant ones than those |
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05:59.27 | keisangi | kde 4.1 beta fails to mount and display japanese samba shares |
06:00.03 | Dhraakellian | nevermind... those two do indeed look like the most relevant |
06:00.03 | keisangi | (shared directory which have their name written in japanese) |
06:00.32 | keisangi | wher should i report that ? |
06:00.37 | keisangi | *where |
06:00.53 | zarvox | keisangi: bugs.kde.org |
06:01.03 | Dhraakellian | it's very annoying to have crash windows opening up so often, but it does seem to have quieted down now |
06:01.06 | keisangi | it isn't just dolphin, but kde terminal too |
06:01.07 | Dhraakellian | for the moment, at least |
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06:02.29 | Rasi | hi |
06:02.36 | zarvox | hi. |
06:02.38 | Dhraakellian | hmm... wonder if it has anything to do with window management |
06:02.39 | Rasi | any clue where i can ask questions about the bespin theme? |
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06:03.09 | zarvox | Dhraakellian: it looks like all of those backtraces refer to components of Phonon, the sound backend |
06:03.41 | Dhraakellian | yeah, I gathered that |
06:03.43 | serzholino | keisangi: same with cyrillic shares |
06:03.58 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
06:03.59 | serzholino | and cyrillic filenames in latin shares |
06:04.46 | Dhraakellian | installed -debug packages for libxine and libkde4 |
06:04.54 | Dhraakellian | goes to install phonon-debug |
06:05.26 | keisangi | serzholino, would you like me to report this ? i'm creating bug report for both if you want |
06:05.31 | Dhraakellian | debuginfo, rather, not that it matters for conversational purposes |
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06:05.40 | serzholino | keisangi: yes |
06:05.47 | keisangi | k |
06:06.03 | serzholino | and give me link to the bug? for tracking |
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06:15.39 | Dhraakellian | restarts KDE |
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06:20.23 | Dhraakellian | returns and waits for a crash |
06:22.02 | keisangi | serzholino, bug 164897 |
06:22.10 | Dhraakellian | 'course, now it says my backtrace is worthless |
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06:24.56 | serzholino | thanks, keisangi |
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06:35.26 | Dumble | hello world ! |
06:35.35 | jazka | return 0; |
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06:37.39 | J-23 | Hi! |
06:37.45 | J-23 | After logging out my KDE 4.1 testing removes all items from panel. |
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06:39.57 | pacman87 | trying to build kdelibs: CMake Error: kdelibs requires an out of source build. Please create a separate build directory and run 'cmake path_to_kdelibs [options]' there. |
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06:40.48 | tictric | pacman87: read http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
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06:41.23 | pacman87 | tictric: i was... |
06:42.02 | pacman87 | cmakekde fails |
06:45.20 | pacman87 | http://pastebin.com/m776a4fd |
06:45.33 | tictric | It states there somewhere that you need a separate dir for the build |
06:45.36 | tictric | thinks |
06:46.54 | pacman87 | not that i see |
06:47.57 | tictric | pacman87: oh, it's in http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts |
06:48.20 | tictric | It was convenient in kde3, it is mandatory in kde4: you need to use out-of-source builds, |
06:48.27 | tictric | ... |
06:48.57 | pacman87 | ah, thanks |
06:49.33 | Jucato | cmakekde is supposed to make sure of that. but you didn't put the src directory under the proper location. which is why cmakekde would have failed |
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06:50.55 | pacman87 | Jucato: i followed the instructions... what is the proper locatoin? |
06:50.58 | pacman87 | location |
06:50.59 | Jucato | source directory should have been ~/src/KDE/kdelibs/ |
06:51.11 | Jucato | you only have ~/KDE/kdelibs/ |
06:51.15 | pacman87 | ah, ok |
06:51.17 | pacman87 | thanks |
06:51.32 | Jucato | did you make sure to run "cs" before you svn co? |
06:51.52 | pacman87 | oops :( |
06:52.07 | Jucato | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdelibs |
06:52.13 | Jucato | cd, then cs, |
06:52.19 | pacman87 | yeah, i skipped the cs |
06:52.21 | pacman87 | my bad |
06:53.03 | pacman87 | thanks for the help |
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06:58.42 | a_thing | Can I compile a Plasmoid if I installed KDE from distro packages? |
06:59.37 | Jucato | probably. you just need kde4 headers |
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07:10.23 | mib_s0gkuovg | hi |
07:10.34 | mib_s0gkuovg | does anybody know how to install Konqueror on Windows XP? |
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07:11.01 | mib_s0gkuovg | i can't find it in the official mirrors |
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07:11.24 | sandsmark | mib_s0gkuovg: use the kde for windows installer |
07:11.29 | sandsmark | it installs the necessary libraries too |
07:11.37 | mib_s0gkuovg | yes, but what libraries? |
07:11.54 | sandsmark | http://winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win32/installer/ |
07:11.57 | annma | the installer does it |
07:11.58 | mib_s0gkuovg | i don't see konqueror anywhee |
07:12.03 | mib_s0gkuovg | yes, i have the installer |
07:12.05 | annma | it is in kdebase |
07:12.11 | mib_s0gkuovg | umh... |
07:12.14 | mib_s0gkuovg | ok |
07:12.18 | mib_s0gkuovg | i'll try it |
07:12.19 | mib_s0gkuovg | thanks |
07:12.23 | sandsmark | =) |
07:13.14 | mib_s0gkuovg | downloading... ^_^ |
07:13.22 | sandsmark | =D |
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07:15.58 | sandsmark | root: you should not be logged in as root |
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07:18.09 | warrenDee | hi dear kde users :) |
07:18.18 | mib_s0gkuovg | hi :D |
07:18.40 | warrenDee | i would like to know if kde4 applications are looking native on gnome? |
07:18.48 | annma | native? |
07:18.52 | warrenDee | qt4 applications are, but what about kde4 apps? |
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07:19.03 | annma | kde4 apps are qt4 apps as well |
07:19.17 | warrenDee | yes, but when you launch a qt4 app in gnome, it looks like gnome |
07:19.28 | annma | did you try a kde4 one? |
07:19.59 | warrenDee | well i had liked to try, but downloading a kde4 app and all its dependencies would take too long with my internet |
07:20.06 | annma | and ask your distro about it, in kde we have a style for gtk apps, they probably have the same on gnome side |
07:20.07 | mib_s0gkuovg | it happens the same thing to me |
07:20.14 | Jucato | huh? qt4 apps in gnome look like gnome? |
07:20.19 | warrenDee | yes |
07:20.21 | mib_s0gkuovg | not exactly |
07:20.24 | annma | warrenDee: ask on the gnome side please |
07:20.26 | mib_s0gkuovg | at least in my case |
07:20.30 | Jucato | that would be a first... |
07:20.31 | warrenDee | i think it would be nice for kde4 apps too; like gtk apps in kde ;) |
07:20.36 | warrenDee | ok |
07:20.46 | annma | it's their problem, not ours |
07:20.50 | warrenDee | yeah, but everybody knows gnome people -> |-) |
07:20.53 | annma | we run KDE apps on KDE |
07:21.11 | warrenDee | ok |
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07:21.12 | annma | I know some and they are very fine |
07:21.19 | Jucato | warrenDee: there's a Qt style in development that lets Qt apps look like gnome. |
07:21.33 | warrenDee | In QT ? |
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07:21.43 | Jucato | but it's still in development and I don't know whether it affects KDE |
07:21.44 | mib_s0gkuovg | warrenDee, do you have tried Polymer? |
07:21.46 | Jucato | Qt, not QT |
07:21.51 | Jucato | QT = Quicktime |
07:21.59 | warrenDee | ow yeah :s |
07:22.01 | Jucato | Qt = Qt toolkit from Trolltech |
07:22.13 | warrenDee | ok, little error :) |
07:22.17 | warrenDee | or big error :m |
07:22.20 | annma | cute = KDE |
07:22.25 | Jucato | annma: no |
07:22.29 | Jucato | cute = me |
07:22.33 | annma | lol |
07:22.34 | Jucato | hides |
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07:23.41 | Jucato | warrenDee: anyway, I've never heard of Qt 4 apps looking like Gnome/GTK apps, unless your distro does some magic there (maybe use a Gnome-like default theme for Qt, or use Clearlooks, etc) |
07:24.10 | sandsmark | there is a qt-lookalike engine for GTK |
07:24.15 | warrenDee | it really does it, on all distros i tested |
07:24.17 | sandsmark | why someone would do that, is beyond me, though =) |
07:24.33 | Jucato | sandsmark: that's different and the reverse of what he's looking for |
07:24.41 | sandsmark | oki =) |
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07:25.02 | Jucato | warrenDee: well then I highly doubt that it actually looks like Gnome... probably you just mistake it for looking like Gnome. :) |
07:25.10 | Jucato | (the default Qt 4 style btw, is Plastique afaik) |
07:25.26 | Jucato | (which is inspired from KDE 3's Plastik) |
07:26.04 | annma | what is this "gnome" you're all talking about? |
07:26.05 | warrenDee | here's an example: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musicbrainz/users/luks/picard-qt/picardqt-gnome.png |
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07:27.20 | Jucato | yep. cleanlooks |
07:27.40 | Jucato | warrenDee: it's using Cleanlooks, a Qt version of GTK's Clearlooks |
07:28.02 | warrenDee | ok, so if an app is using kde4, it will override then? |
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07:28.47 | Jucato | a KDE 4 app will use what settings KDE 4 uses. Qt 4 apps will use what qtconfig is set to. (which is usually set to use what KDE style is in use by default) |
07:28.56 | Jucato | (if KDE is installed) |
07:29.24 | warrenDee | would be nice if a kde4 app uses the qtconfig style when not on kde or something like that, but i think this isn't a kde problem |
07:29.54 | warrenDee | btw, will it ever be possible again to use the "Desktop" folder on the KDE4 desktop? |
07:30.04 | sandsmark | warrenDee: yes |
07:30.10 | sandsmark | warrenDee: just like in kde 3.5 |
07:30.11 | Jucato | warrenDee: yes and more |
07:30.20 | warrenDee | for kde 4.1? |
07:30.27 | warrenDee | or is it already in the kde 4.0.x ? |
07:30.35 | Jucato | warrenDee: KDE 4 apps *can* use Qt 4 styles. but it will, of course, default to its own KDE style |
07:30.39 | sandsmark | warrenDee: not easily, in 4.2 it will probably be a checkbox or similar |
07:30.44 | Jucato | 4.2 actually |
07:30.53 | Jucato | in 4.1 you can have it as an applet |
07:31.00 | warrenDee | ow yeah :( |
07:31.04 | Jucato | (imho less space consuming) |
07:31.19 | sandsmark | Jucato: I don't think there's anything stopping you from setting the folder view as a containment on the desktop in 4.1 |
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07:31.32 | Jucato | sandsmark: sure. but I'm no aseigo or Chani |
07:31.33 | warrenDee | would be nice as default though, imo |
07:31.35 | sandsmark | there just isn't an easy gui-option to set it (didn't get in under string freeze) |
07:31.48 | sandsmark | warrenDee: that's up to the distros =) |
07:32.19 | warrenDee | yeah but if every program should have defaults from the distro ... |
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07:33.31 | user0 | hi all |
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07:34.35 | sandsmark | warrenDee: OpenSuse does a wonderful job with that |
07:34.58 | warrenDee | that's true ;) |
07:35.02 | fishsponge_ | hey people - in KDE4, how do i create a Panel icon that would load "firefox http://www.url.com"? I don't want that URL to be my homepage - i just want that icon to run that command.... |
07:35.12 | warrenDee | if you compare with kubuntu: lol |
07:35.25 | annma | everything's green is Suse style, rejoice in green |
07:35.56 | annma | never had a Suse distro in fact so this is just an impression |
07:36.06 | sandsmark | well, ubuntu does very many nice things with Gnome, almost makes it usable =) |
07:36.30 | sandsmark | annma: that's my impression too, though I've only used suse on other's computers, and their livecd's =) |
07:39.50 | fishsponge_ | does anyone know, in KDE4, how do i create a Panel icon that would load "firefox http://www.url.com"? I don't want that URL to be my homepage - i just want that icon to run that command.... |
07:41.06 | annma | fishsponge_: how do you do it from terminal? just "firefox http://www.url.com"" ? |
07:41.43 | fishsponge_ | yeah |
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07:42.58 | zenstar | Hi, What's the shortcut to open the Desktop folder under KDE4? |
07:43.39 | annma | zenstar: the desktop folder is in folderview on your desktop |
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07:44.15 | zenstar | so How can I create a new folder directly on the desktop? |
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07:44.43 | tictric | zenstar: But if I'm not mistaken you should dispose of using your desktop as a folder |
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07:44.58 | tictric | kde4 tries to get rid of that |
07:45.02 | zenstar | I noticed that |
07:45.16 | zenstar | That's fine with me, I was just wondering if there was a way |
07:45.18 | sandsmark | tictric: no |
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07:45.30 | fishsponge_ | annma: yes - i just run "firefox http://www.url.com" |
07:45.34 | tictric | See? I'm mistaken :) |
07:45.44 | sandsmark | tictric: in kde 4.2 it will be just a simple click to get back the normal desktop, afaik =) |
07:46.35 | tictric | I find that new apporach very appealing |
07:46.36 | zenstar | How come I can't transfer files between Konquerer & Dolphin? |
07:47.40 | annma | zenstar: transfer = move? |
07:47.47 | zenstar | yes |
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07:49.16 | zenstar | annma: Nevermind.. I can do it now.. I couldn't before for some odd reason |
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07:52.31 | annma | fishsponge_: you need to make a script like runFirefox.sh |
07:52.39 | annma | with the above line |
07:52.53 | annma | in Desktop or soemwhere and drag it on your desktop |
07:53.04 | annma | a script = make it executable |
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07:55.55 | zenstar | annma: Can you use Dolphin as the default file manager? |
07:56.16 | annma | it is the default one |
07:56.36 | annma | what do you mean "use it as default" anyway? |
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07:57.24 | zenstar | Well for instance, when I open up 'My Computer', or want to edit a filename inside Amarok, it's defaulting to Konkqueror |
07:57.33 | sandsmark | zenstar: the default file manager depends on what file associations you set for "inode/directory" |
07:58.30 | zenstar | sansmark: Where can I check? |
07:58.43 | fishsponge_ | annma: in KDE3.5 i could just create a Launcher and type the command etc... into a dialog box - has this useful feature been removed? |
07:58.59 | thiago_home | there's no "My Computer" icon |
07:59.05 | thiago_home | are you using KDE 3 or KDE 4? |
07:59.13 | zenstar | KDE4 |
07:59.16 | sandsmark | zenstar: in system settings |
07:59.20 | sandsmark | file associations |
07:59.26 | sandsmark | (search for it =) |
07:59.32 | zenstar | okay, thanks |
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08:01.29 | annma | fishsponge_: you could create a launcher from where? |
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08:03.28 | Hoenikker | how do i get thinkpad volume keys to work in kmix in beta2? |
08:03.36 | fishsponge_ | annma: right-click Panel, Add Applet, Custom Launcher - something like that, anyway |
08:04.00 | Hoenikker | or, any other thinkpad keys for that matter |
08:04.18 | annma | fishsponge_: this doe snot exist yet |
08:05.24 | zenstar | sandsmar: Is system settings in Yast? |
08:05.39 | zenstar | (I'm a gnome user.. just switched to KDE) |
08:05.46 | zenstar | or was.. :) |
08:06.29 | fishsponge_ | annma: so there's no way to create an icon that runs a custom command through a GUI at all? |
08:06.46 | sandsmark | zenstar: I'm not sure =) |
08:06.53 | sandsmark | (I don't use open suse) |
08:07.02 | zenstar | sansmark: which distro? |
08:07.04 | sandsmark | zenstar: try hitting alt+f2, write systemsettings, and hit enter |
08:07.16 | sandsmark | is using Arch Linux |
08:07.36 | zenstar | sandsmar: not listed |
08:07.48 | annma | not yet fishsponge_ |
08:07.48 | sandsmark | try asking in #opensuse =) |
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08:08.49 | fishsponge_ | annma: hmm... that's kinda disappointing |
08:08.51 | fishsponge_ | oh well! |
08:09.00 | zenstar | sandsmark: What kinds of things are in systemsettings |
08:09.02 | annma | fishsponge_: it's not even 4.1 |
08:09.05 | sandsmark | zenstar: also, try just writing "sands" and hit TAB, and your IRC-client should auto-complete my nick =) |
08:09.14 | annma | fishsponge_: we're not supermen |
08:09.15 | sandsmark | zenstar: in KDEmod, all settings |
08:09.26 | sandsmark | annma: =O |
08:09.28 | fishsponge_ | i can right-click on an existing icon and choose "Icon Settings" that's the GUI i recognise - but i don't have permission to edit them, of course |
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08:10.00 | fishsponge_ | annma: i know you're not supermen - i understand that coding stuff takes time... so no worries there :-) |
08:10.11 | annma | OK :) |
08:10.19 | annma | thanks |
08:10.53 | zenstar | sandsmark: thanks again |
08:11.00 | sandsmark | np |
08:11.48 | zenstar | sandsmark: Okay it's under Desktop settings which opens up a folder called system settings |
08:11.54 | sandsmark | ah, ok =) |
08:13.58 | zenstar | sandsmark: I see under file associations that dolphin is preferred over konqueror |
08:14.14 | sandsmark | zenstar: that is weird |
08:14.31 | zenstar | sandsmark: I know |
08:15.27 | pinotree | keisangi: your problem was already reported, btw |
08:15.41 | zenstar | sandsmark: are they planning on eventually phasing out konqueror? |
08:15.48 | sandsmark | not that I know of |
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08:16.27 | zenstar | it's a little different for me coming from Gnome, which uses Nautilus |
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08:17.17 | sandsmark | Dolphin is more like nautilus, I would guess |
08:17.48 | zenstar | sandsmark: I liked the split folder views, which nautilus doesn't do |
08:18.01 | sandsmark | =) |
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08:19.41 | fishsponge_ | i can't believe it's so difficult to just create a custom icon in KDE4! lol |
08:20.12 | sandsmark | fishsponge_: probably noone needed it before =) |
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08:20.33 | sandsmark | fishsponge_: can't you just right-click in Dolphin, create new, link to something something, etc.? |
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08:21.55 | sandsmark | fishsponge_: link to application |
08:22.00 | sandsmark | then drag that down to the panel? |
08:22.26 | sandsmark | set command to firefox http://www.com |
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08:25.49 | fishsponge_ | ah - Dolphin - Right-click, New Link to Application! |
08:25.52 | fishsponge_ | that's what i need! |
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08:27.07 | Guest36142 | sdasd |
08:27.31 | konadr | dont irc as root Guest36142 |
08:27.34 | zenstar | fishsponge_: there you go.. see KDE is making you do things off the desktop |
08:27.36 | annma | fishsponge_: indeed, sorry I did not know |
08:27.36 | konadr | heh |
08:27.49 | annma | fishsponge_: you can even set the Firefox icon to it |
08:28.03 | fishsponge_ | well, not the desktop - Dolphin |
08:28.13 | fishsponge_ | trying to do it from the desktop or the Panel fails |
08:28.18 | fishsponge_ | but through Dolphin, so far, it's working... |
08:28.40 | annma | just drag it on Desktop |
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08:30.49 | fishsponge_ | how do i get my newly-created icon onto a Panel? |
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08:30.49 | fishsponge_ | how do i get my newly-created icon onto a Panel? |
08:30.49 | Jucato | anyone else experiencing random X restarts/crashes when viewing some web sites and KWin effects are enabled? using nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 card, using driver 96.43.05 |
08:30.49 | Jucato | fishsponge_: drag and drop on the panel |
08:31.05 | sandsmark | Jucato: flash involved? |
08:31.15 | Jucato | sandsmark: nope |
08:31.16 | sandsmark | Jucato: latest versions of flash try to use opengl =3 |
08:31.19 | sandsmark | ok |
08:31.19 | annma | that crashes currently for me on trunk to drag an icon in panel |
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08:31.29 | Jucato | has no panel... anyway.. |
08:31.45 | annma | so fingers crossed for fishsponge_ |
08:31.47 | Jucato | sandsmark: flash or no flash, it always seems to be triggered (randomly) by a web page... |
08:32.08 | sandsmark | Jucato: well, I have intel everywhere =) |
08:32.11 | Jucato | random web page... but before I could reproduce it consistently with the nvidia web page |
08:32.22 | Jucato | hm.. well until Intel makes IGP's.. I'm lost |
08:32.24 | sandsmark | heh, ironic =) |
08:32.26 | Jucato | er. AGP's |
08:32.36 | Jucato | (or PCI-E's...) |
08:33.01 | Jucato | It's getting really annoying... specially when X crashes randomly in the middle of important work |
08:33.13 | crweb | what happens if you try to run with just the "nv" x driver? |
08:33.17 | Jucato | one more crash and I'm turning off kwin effects permanently... even if I'm so used to it |
08:33.36 | crweb | oh nvrmind. then there are no effect |
08:33.40 | Jucato | yep |
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08:34.20 | Jucato | some of my work habits are tied to it by now. specially Present Windows and Desktop Grid |
08:34.47 | gkiagia | Jucato: that driver is quite old... newer versions don't support your gpu I suppose? |
08:34.55 | Jucato | gkiagia: yep. |
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08:35.11 | Jucato | and I can't even upgrade my card... because most of the latest supported nvidia cards are all pci-e |
08:35.11 | crweb | actully they keep the 96 driver up to date |
08:35.24 | crweb | Jucato: ? I have lots of latest agp cards |
08:35.27 | Jucato | crweb: not recently it seems |
08:35.31 | sandsmark | buy an ati? |
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08:35.38 | Jucato | crweb: aren't they legacy now? |
08:35.42 | crweb | Jucato: i have a 7200GT agp |
08:35.58 | Jucato | oh well.. I'll try to look into the market again... |
08:36.22 | gkiagia | sandsmark: no! ati is worse... |
08:36.39 | crweb | Jucato: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121064 |
08:36.44 | sandsmark | gkiagia: the open sores ati drivers where actually pretty nice, last time I tried |
08:36.48 | crweb | Jucato: nothing legacy about that ;) |
08:36.51 | Jucato | not wanting to go into a graphics card debate |
08:36.57 | sandsmark | =P |
08:37.43 | tictric | though closed source. Xinerama's cool |
08:37.43 | Jucato | crweb: legacy = referring to drivers.. unless that's what you meant too |
08:37.43 | sandsmark | well, ati/amd has released specs, nvidia hasn't, case closed (for rms =) |
08:37.43 | sandsmark | xrandr >> xinerama |
08:37.51 | crweb | Jucato: right, legacy only covers older than FX cards |
08:37.57 | tictric | hmm |
08:37.58 | Jucato | wth?! nvidia's new site layout is confusing... |
08:38.04 | tictric | looks up xrandr |
08:38.08 | crweb | Jucato: i dunno if it is what you meant, but it doesn't involve agp/pci-e |
08:38.11 | oneforall | I use NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.08-pkg2.run with my agp FX5200 |
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08:39.04 | Jucato | crweb: we live in different countries. the latest video cards here (ones that are most likely to be still non-legacy), are almost all PCI-E |
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08:39.49 | crweb | Jucato: that stinks. If i were you i'd go to ebay and pickup whatever i wanted with international shipping |
08:40.08 | Onesmo | what? |
08:40.21 | Onesmo | who is there? |
08:40.57 | Jucato | crweb: hm.. I'll take a look at that 7600GS... |
08:41.09 | Jucato | I hope something's available... |
08:41.42 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
08:41.48 | oneforall | id/is |
08:42.21 | Jucato | well next time I go window shopping, I'll just bring a *@#@# list of supported cards.. |
08:42.34 | Jucato | so no one else having X crashes? :( |
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08:45.46 | zenstar | Anyone running boinc under KDE4? |
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08:52.00 | J-23 | zenstar: yes. |
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08:52.28 | zenstar | J-23: I'm getting a cert error.. and it's dumping a bunch of files in my home folder |
08:52.32 | J-23 | ;/ |
08:52.40 | J-23 | try asking at #boinc |
08:53.03 | zenstar | J-23: I am.. they seem clueless |
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08:53.56 | solsTiCe | hi. i have got only 3 files configure.in.bot configure.in.in Makefile.am. how can i compile ? auto{conf,make} gives only errors |
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08:54.36 | annma | solsTiCe: what app? |
08:54.50 | solsTiCe | kipi-plugins svn |
08:55.03 | annma | where are those in? extragear/foo? |
08:55.15 | annma | paste svn line you use to svn co them please solsTiCe |
08:55.49 | solsTiCe | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/libs/kipi-plugins |
08:56.14 | solsTiCe | and then svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin inside kipi-plguins directory |
08:57.00 | sandsmark | is kipi-plugins ported to kde 4 yet? |
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08:57.11 | solsTiCe | i don't know |
08:57.24 | annma | svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/libs/kipi-plugins |
08:57.30 | annma | what's the module here? |
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08:57.36 | annma | libs? |
08:57.40 | lhgergo | hi |
08:57.47 | annma | you need the module top files solsTiCe |
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08:57.54 | lhgergo | can you help me? where can i play kbattleship online? |
08:57.59 | solsTiCe | annma: ah ok |
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08:58.13 | annma | solsTiCe: why do you need to build that? |
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08:58.48 | solsTiCe | annma: ia dev asked to cimpile that before filling a bug report about picasa plugin |
08:58.52 | solsTiCe | and test it |
08:59.12 | annma | what dev? |
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08:59.39 | annma | solsTiCe: if you have a bug in your package just report it |
08:59.54 | annma | solsTiCe: it's not a normal practice to ask you to build it |
09:00.11 | annma | either your distro messed it or the bug is in KDE |
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09:00.51 | Jucato | (the bug is in my room... I sprayed it with insect killer) |
09:01.16 | sandsmark | flyspray? |
09:01.18 | annma | lol |
09:01.26 | annma | KSpray |
09:01.31 | paloris_J | I am trying to compile kdelibs and am getting this error CMake Error: Could NOT find QtGlobal header. |
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09:01.42 | sandsmark | =) |
09:01.48 | paloris_J | any thoughts on how to fix it |
09:02.05 | sandsmark | paloris_J: install qt? =) |
09:02.13 | paloris_J | it is installed |
09:02.34 | sandsmark | fix your paths? |
09:02.36 | paloris_J | qt-copy for that matter |
09:03.26 | sandsmark | what distro? |
09:03.49 | paloris_J | which qmake ~/kde/src/qt-copy/bin/qmake |
09:04.06 | paloris_J | which is where my qt is installed |
09:04.21 | annma | paloris_J: echo $PATH |
09:04.22 | paloris_J | sandsmark: Fedora 9 |
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09:04.41 | annma | paloris_J: echo $PATH and paste |
09:05.45 | annma | paloris_J: ? |
09:05.56 | annma | should be straightforward! |
09:06.59 | sandsmark | =/ |
09:07.06 | paloris_J | annma: Just doing it now |
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09:07.26 | paloris_J | rafb is taking its time to load |
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09:09.27 | paloris_J | now it is taking its time to past the code |
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09:10.06 | annma_ | http://kde.pastey.net/ paloris_J |
09:10.08 | annma_ | I was cut, did you paste the PATH line? |
09:10.19 | paloris_J | And I am a poet. Just in case you did not ni\otice |
09:10.52 | paloris_J | http://rafb.net/p/3GkcL647.html |
09:12.11 | annma_ | so now retry kdelibs cmake |
09:12.23 | annma_ | and paste it all: the cmake command and all the output please |
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09:13.06 | paloris_J | I used cmakekde for kdelibs |
09:13.29 | paloris_J | It was kdebase that I was having the problem with |
09:13.40 | paloris_J | do you want kdelibed or base |
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09:13.58 | annma_ | paloris_J> I am trying to compile kdelibs and am getting this error CMake Error: Could NOT find QtGlobal header. |
09:14.12 | annma_ | you said kdelibs |
09:14.22 | paloris_J | Or Sorry |
09:14.25 | annma_ | so did you build kdelibs then? |
09:14.33 | paloris_J | kdebase was what I ment |
09:14.52 | paloris_J | kdelibs builds ok |
09:15.11 | annma_ | so do it with kdebase |
09:15.17 | paloris_J | kdebase has the QTGlobal error |
09:16.11 | paloris_J | http://kde.pastey.net/90017 |
09:16.14 | annma_ | paste in pastebin the cmake command and all the output please |
09:16.30 | annma_ | cmakekde hu |
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09:17.27 | annma_ | is it your first kdebase build? |
09:18.01 | paloris_J | no |
09:18.13 | annma_ | you already built it? |
09:18.21 | paloris_J | yes |
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09:18.26 | annma_ | so rm build dir |
09:18.29 | annma_ | and retry |
09:18.43 | paloris_J | but I deleted the build directory and started again |
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09:19.03 | annma_ | really |
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09:19.35 | annma_ | you probably had not qt-copy first in PATH |
09:19.45 | annma_ | restart now that you fixed it |
09:20.23 | paloris_J | seems to be working |
09:21.09 | paloris_J | That is really frustrating when that happens |
09:21.29 | annma_ | you messed your PATH |
09:21.53 | annma_ | it should not happen |
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09:22.27 | Eruaran | Aarons blog is now invite only :-( |
09:22.53 | Sput | O_o |
09:23.03 | annma_ | Eruaran: he did not want everyone giving his stupid advice on Akademy location probably |
09:23.31 | bram85 | and what about the piles of shit he has to go through regarding plasma |
09:23.32 | Eruaran | I was assuming it was because of the trolls... been alot lately |
09:23.33 | annma_ | people just comment on anything, especially on things they are not even involved with |
09:23.48 | paloris_J | annma_: A small python script that checks your path and enviroment varables would be really handy |
09:23.56 | annma_ | paloris_J: write it |
09:24.13 | annma_ | paloris_J: and attach it to the page |
09:24.15 | paloris_J | Not a good enough programer |
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09:24.26 | annma_ | well why do you build kde then |
09:24.40 | annma_ | this page was done for people who know what they do |
09:24.53 | paloris_J | I enjoy the chalange. And it is good to run the latest programs |
09:25.04 | sandsmark | bah, he could've just blocked comments =3 |
09:25.18 | annma_ | well have a look at your .bashrc and try to understand what it does |
09:25.28 | annma_ | sandsmark: how? |
09:25.33 | annma_ | what's the difference |
09:25.46 | paloris_J | annma_: I understand the .bashrc |
09:25.56 | annma_ | paloris_J: then it should work |
09:25.58 | Eruaran | Trolls ruin it for people like me who enjoy Aarons blog |
09:26.02 | sandsmark | annma_: aseigo used to have very liberal settings with comments |
09:26.10 | annma_ | sandsmark: and? |
09:26.15 | annma_ | people abused it |
09:26.22 | sandsmark | he could've demanded registered users, or just disallowed comments |
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09:26.26 | sandsmark | I know |
09:26.44 | annma_ | I don't write anymore blogs myself |
09:27.11 | sandsmark | neither, not that anyone read my blog in the first place =) |
09:27.13 | bram85 | the blesses of web 2.0 |
09:27.15 | annma_ | I have a private blog and that's it |
09:27.20 | Eruaran | I've started a blog several times |
09:27.30 | Eruaran | I never get past the first post |
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09:28.19 | annma_ | Aaron gets picked and people just get mean |
09:28.29 | Eruaran | yes |
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09:28.42 | annma_ | they don't have a clue on how things are done anyway |
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09:29.09 | Eruaran | Some of the worst comments I've seen have been totally clueless and misinformed |
09:29.10 | sandsmark | probably gnome people from the freedesktop-planet =) |
09:29.28 | annma_ | some blogs do not need comments anyway |
09:29.37 | Eruaran | Or a rent-a-crowd of shills from Redmond |
09:29.45 | annma_ | the Akademy location ppost doe snot need comments, it's informative, that's it |
09:29.56 | sandsmark | annma_: aseigo's blog requires invites for reading, btw |
09:30.03 | annma_ | for reading? |
09:30.06 | sandsmark | yeah |
09:30.12 | annma_ | reading what? |
09:30.13 | sandsmark | that's why I was a bit upset =/ |
09:30.16 | sandsmark | the blog |
09:30.23 | annma_ | you cannot read the blog? |
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09:30.32 | Eruaran | Not without an invite |
09:30.57 | friedrich| | what is the "ForgingSeed" in kdmrc about? |
09:30.58 | sandsmark | annma_: nope |
09:31.00 | annma_ | so it's not on planet anymore? |
09:31.04 | annma_ | I see it |
09:31.10 | tictric | it is |
09:31.16 | annma_ | so |
09:31.29 | annma_ | it is but it is invisible for you? |
09:31.31 | sandsmark | annma_: the planet will probably not get new posts from his blog, or? |
09:31.40 | sandsmark | annma_: try aseigo.blogspot.com |
09:31.41 | annma_ | ah OK |
09:31.44 | bram85 | a big 'thanks' for our splendid community :/ thanks... |
09:31.56 | Eruaran | :( |
09:31.57 | Rioting_pacifist | its still on planet for me but i cant view the actuall pages |
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09:32.23 | bram85 | the planet caches things |
09:32.25 | tictric | I also tried to read the comments on that particular one and decided that I still don't want a google account |
09:32.39 | annma_ | tictric: that's another debate |
09:32.46 | annma_ | can't you use OpenID? |
09:32.49 | tictric | true |
09:33.16 | annma_ | well having to deal with blogs comments and endless nitpicks on bug reports is something |
09:33.21 | tictric | could, I guess |
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09:34.56 | annma_ | and if you know how one can move a blog from blogspot to something nnicer feel free to tell me tictric |
09:35.11 | annma_ | at the time I started it there were no much alternatives |
09:35.28 | tictric | Oh, I run my own wordpress installation on my own server |
09:35.29 | annma_ | however I'd like not to lose the posts |
09:35.37 | annma_ | tictric: well, I cannot do that |
09:35.38 | Rioting_pacifist | its a shame i quite liked his blogs, i think there was a bit of confusion between trolling and genuinly curious people who just didnt understand the new desktop thing, but then again i hadnt read it for a could of weeks |
09:36.02 | Sput | google account doesn't help |
09:36.09 | tictric | tictric.net so to say :) |
09:36.23 | annma_ | tictric: that does not answer my question |
09:36.32 | tictric | which question? |
09:36.42 | annma_ | and if you know how one can move a blog from blogspot to something nnicer feel free to tell me tictric |
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09:37.43 | annma_ | I htink it's the whole Planet goal that is questioned, it started with this mad post from a guy once who bashed stuff |
09:37.50 | tictric | ah, that one. Hmm ... I will |
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09:40.01 | tictric | can one make a dump from blogspot? |
09:40.07 | thiago_home | I guess aseigo closed it for a short while |
09:40.17 | thiago_home | I read his blog yesterday, including comments |
09:41.08 | tictric | looks for faq |
09:41.09 | ccamacho | are we gonna have anytime soon a quick launch in kde 4.1? (I meant to add applications to the panel and run them from there) |
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09:41.37 | annma_ | ccamacho: a bar? |
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09:41.47 | Half-Left | yo |
09:41.52 | annma_ | what's the difference between having icons in the panel? |
09:42.02 | annma_ | ccamacho: ^^ |
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09:42.21 | Half-Left | Anyone use quassel IRC? |
09:42.27 | annma_ | konvi |
09:42.36 | Sput | does ^^ |
09:42.53 | Half-Left | How do you even get it connnected? |
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09:42.57 | annma | ccamacho: what's the difference between a quick launch and having icons in panel? |
09:43.08 | ccamacho | annma: you can call it a bar, dock, etc.. |
09:43.14 | Sput | Half-Left: please join #quassel for support :) |
09:43.22 | Half-Left | :p |
09:43.27 | annma | why do you prefer it from icons in panel ccamacho? |
09:45.02 | ccamacho | icons in panel is also fine... as long as you don't have to display the menu or Alt+F2 eveytime you have to run an application |
09:45.31 | annma | currently you can get icons in panel |
09:45.33 | bram85 | ccamacho: you can drag 'n drop apps from the menu to the desktop/panel |
09:45.46 | annma | so you can create a panel with your prog in it |
09:45.55 | annma | so you can create a panel with your icons progs in it |
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09:47.16 | ccamacho | bram85: eveytime I do that and click the "icon" it sends me to kwriter... |
09:47.24 | tictric | doesn't have any download or export function. Shoulda guessed it |
09:49.18 | ccamacho | bram85: there are few apps that work in this way, for instance konqueror... but most of them, don't |
09:49.51 | bram85 | it works for me... but i'm running trunk |
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09:51.12 | ccamacho | bram85: probably I have to create a .desktop for every application I wanna run like this... I just wonder where should I place those .desktop files |
09:51.19 | damada | Hi, in the latest openSUSE and Kubuntu releases, the kdepim packages are slightly broken: the IMAP groupware has to be enabled by manually editing kmailrc. Then, it works fine, but the contacts are shown in a wrong encoding. How can I make the umlauts to be properly displayed (not as two rectangles or two questionmarks)? |
09:51.46 | bram85 | ccamacho: well, these desktop entries already exist, that's why they're in your menu |
09:51.51 | liber | hmmm. can someone using kde4.1 confirm a bug? When I surf in konqi i have no menubar (i disabled it). I often surf in full screen mode. When I do this and create a new tab and goes to that tab the menubar reappears |
09:52.00 | damada | see here https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398285 and here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/139433 |
09:52.35 | bram85 | liber: yep |
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09:53.41 | liber | dang |
09:53.45 | Kanniball | hi! |
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09:54.11 | liber | I'll have to try to use bugzilla... I always seem to screw up when I do that |
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09:54.45 | Kanniball | I remember to see an kde app, for backup user profiles, with settings for applications like amarok, firefox, etc... but I forgot the name... can anyone tell me? |
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09:59.55 | Half-Left | yay quassel |
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10:02.25 | Kanniball | well, the software I was searchig is kamion... |
10:02.40 | Kanniball | but it seems dead.. |
10:03.16 | liber | a shame |
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10:19.17 | Half-Left | Whats cooking peeps? |
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10:21.18 | kdepepo | Kanniball, Konserve? |
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10:21.58 | chakie_work | conserved cannibal? isn't that somehow cyclic? |
10:22.28 | Kanniball | kdepepo: does it support applications profiles (to save only the data that matters, and don't care for cache stuff for example) |
10:23.39 | kdepepo | Kanniball, it was "app of the month" once ;) |
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10:24.30 | sandsmark | keep |
10:24.55 | Kanniball | sandsmark: I've checked keep, too |
10:25.04 | sandsmark | kubuntu comes with keep as default |
10:25.35 | sandsmark | Kanniball: ivan kucic, the kamion dev, is still very active, though |
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10:25.41 | sandsmark | are you sure kamion is dead? |
10:26.05 | keisangi | someone said my name ? |
10:26.35 | Kanniball | well I've found the page, on sf.net, and there are some posts on the mailing lists... the last was in Feb. |
10:27.01 | sandsmark | *cukic |
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10:37.37 | aleksanteri | hmm. i'm trying out kde4 again; how do you disable that notification sound when a new window pops up ? |
10:38.03 | cb400f | aleksanteri: systemsettings -> notifications .. .select kwin in combo box |
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10:38.16 | HUNTER_byt1 | I'd like to know where are Suspend and Hibernate? I can't find them in KDE 4. Distro: Kubuntu 8.4 |
10:38.44 | aleksanteri | oh there's that combobox, thanks cb400f |
10:39.49 | cb400f | HUNTER_byt1: you'd better ask about that in your distro channel.. |
10:40.14 | cb400f | SUSE uses kde3 kpowersave |
10:40.33 | cb400f | guess those options should be avalailble in kickoff too |
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10:44.15 | liber | well crap. I really really suck at reporting bugs at bugs.kde.org... this is like my third duplicate - even though I searched i good deal before I reported |
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10:45.39 | paloris_J | liber: what was the url for the bug |
10:46.10 | liber | well. it doesn't really matter now |
10:46.53 | Half-Left | liber: Sometimes your not to know, it could be the same bug with a different description |
10:46.58 | paloris_J | does it not get reported if it is a duplicate |
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10:47.35 | paloris_J | liber: I have never reported a bug |
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10:48.50 | Half-Left | paloris_J: Get reporting then and find them :) |
10:48.58 | liber | paloris_J: it gets closed... |
10:50.10 | Half-Left | liber: What usually happens is you get added to the CC list for the actual bug, so you can watch it via email |
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10:50.58 | lonran | hi everybody |
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10:51.21 | liber | hello there |
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10:52.26 | lonran | i want to use gmail with kopete in kde4 so i have installed qca-tls, but even like that i keep getting the same ssl error when tryin to connect. any idea? |
10:52.53 | andy151 | Hey Guys. Well done on 4.1 Beta 2, I'm using it now and it's really usable, I can see myself ditching 3.5.9 soon :) |
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10:53.33 | paloris_J | andy151: Yes I am using it as well. It is really good |
10:53.51 | andy151 | just have one question, will 4.1 final include applet positioning on panels? Or is that 4.2? If 4.2 (or later), is there a config file I can hack to position applets in the mean time? |
10:54.02 | andy151 | I'm very impressed, compared to 4.0, a big jump! |
10:54.19 | andy151 | from a user point of view anyway |
10:54.20 | jazka | andy151: just remove them and add in a specific order |
10:54.25 | jazka | for now |
10:54.30 | andy151 | ah, left to right? |
10:54.47 | andy151 | I'll give it a try :) |
10:54.55 | cb400f | andy151: if you drag them to a specific place from the selector you can place them too |
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10:55.41 | andy151 | cb400f: thanks, I've tried that but it doesn't quite get it right (and then gets repositioned on adding the next object) |
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10:56.08 | Half-Left | Well I've done a mockup of how the icon positioning should be, have to see what if it gets some implementation |
10:56.09 | cb400f | hrm.. didn't try it on 4.1b2.. but it has worked for me on 4.0 |
10:56.31 | andy151 | it get's the order right, but the positioning just floats a bit |
10:56.43 | andy151 | like it's trying to space all applets equally |
10:57.28 | Half-Left | to late for 4.1 :/ |
10:58.20 | cb400f | there'll prolly be distro specific patches though |
10:58.35 | cb400f | SUSE already has it in 4.0.. patches will be moved to 4.1 |
10:59.01 | tuxick | i heard suse actively contributes to kde? |
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10:59.43 | andy151 | yeah, I thnk Suse do |
11:00.03 | andy151 | here's to hoping it's in 4.1 final. That's my only critism so far, the rest looks superb |
11:00.04 | cb400f | tuxick: historically SUSE was always a KDE strong hold and major contributor.. http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Team |
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11:01.55 | cb400f | tuxick: kerry, knetworkmanager, kpowersave, sysinfo, kickofff etc. are suse creations |
11:02.12 | tuxick | nice |
11:02.14 | Half-Left | Novell |
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11:03.00 | andy151 | knetworkmanager in kde4 is great! |
11:03.20 | andy151 | never had such hassle free wireless config |
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11:03.39 | HUNTER_byt1 | How do I know which version of KDE 4.x I'm using? |
11:03.45 | sandsmark | andy151: where did you get it from? |
11:03.53 | sandsmark | HUNTER_byt1: look under About in the Help menu |
11:04.02 | cb400f | Half-Left: novell is a bunch of gnome users in the US.. SUSE in Nürnberg, Germany is still SUSE A.G... albeit it's a novell subsidiary |
11:04.12 | andy151 | sandsmark: kubuntu's KDE 4.1 B2 packages |
11:04.38 | sandsmark | andy151: are you sure it is the kde 4 networkmanager, or is it just the kde 3 one? |
11:05.44 | Half-Left | cb400f: GNOME devs work for Novell yes, where were all part of the samething, Xamian |
11:05.51 | Half-Left | Ximian* |
11:06.03 | Half-Left | they* |
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11:07.02 | Half-Left | Ironically a KDE centric distro :p |
11:07.38 | cb400f | even more ironical according to rumours it was Nat Friedman that pushed novell to buy SUSE ;-) |
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11:08.23 | Half-Left | cb400f: yer, funny they didn't know what to do with it when they brought it :p |
11:08.27 | cb400f | american gnomers and german/european kde users ... doesn't go down without friction ;-) |
11:08.30 | Nyle | good morning |
11:08.36 | andy151 | sandsmark: not sure tbh, I will check |
11:08.41 | Nyle | does kde have an ability to have animated wallpapers? |
11:08.47 | Nyle | 3.5.9 |
11:09.11 | Half-Left | If you call slideshow animating :) |
11:09.12 | Nyle | what are some cool ways to use/arrage the desktop (I'm bored with the regular desktop bull |
11:09.25 | Nyle | Half-Left, I want a waterfall wallpaper |
11:09.28 | Nyle | animated water |
11:09.33 | Nyle | know of anything/ |
11:09.34 | Nyle | ? |
11:09.37 | sandsmark | Nyle: run xmatrix --root =) |
11:09.51 | Nyle | not matrix |
11:09.52 | Nyle | thats lame |
11:09.59 | Half-Left | Nyle: Thers that compiz one |
11:10.00 | sandsmark | you're lame |
11:10.02 | sandsmark | =) |
11:10.25 | Nyle | I'm sorry. I didn't mean to ruin your entire day like that...with my lameness. |
11:10.28 | Half-Left | xwinwrap or something like that |
11:10.30 | Nyle | ;) |
11:10.41 | Nyle | I use kde + compiz-confusion |
11:10.54 | Nyle | for the most part it works |
11:10.59 | Half-Left | XRender rules |
11:11.14 | Nyle | half left |
11:11.16 | Half-Left | And no crappy nvidia driver |
11:11.18 | Nyle | is a quarter turn? |
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11:11.49 | Nyle | 90 degree angle? |
11:11.54 | Half-Left | what? |
11:12.04 | Nyle | 90*4=? |
11:12.23 | Half-Left | What exactly are you refering to? |
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11:13.07 | Nyle | Half-Left, me gustas tu |
11:13.27 | Half-Left | Quassel has no spell check so exposes him crap spelling |
11:13.38 | Half-Left | his* |
11:13.50 | andy151 | sandsmark: it's knetworkmanager 3.5.9 :) I got confused as I only installed KDE on my laptop so it's all new to me :) |
11:13.57 | sandsmark | =P |
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11:14.08 | Half-Left | I'm using nv driver, much better for 2d and XRedner in KDE4 |
11:14.16 | Half-Left | XRender* |
11:14.17 | Half-Left | gah |
11:14.25 | Half-Left | types slower |
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11:14.29 | Nyle | uses radeonhd + compiz confusion on debian sid |
11:14.43 | sandsmark | uses intel + kwin =) |
11:14.47 | sandsmark | on arch |
11:15.00 | Nyle | xorg/mesa/radeonhd built from git |
11:15.08 | aleksanteri | uses nvidia geforce + kwin on debian lenny/experimental |
11:15.09 | sandsmark | yeah, intel driver from git =) |
11:15.10 | Nyle | 3d works flawlessly on radeon x1900xt |
11:15.23 | Nyle | no need for fglrx |
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11:19.41 | tuxick | flawless and radeon?? |
11:19.44 | tuxick | that's a new one |
11:20.00 | tuxick | got a 2400 here, performance is pathetic |
11:20.23 | tuxick | otoh the open source driver worked ok on 9600 |
11:20.24 | annma | tuxick: depends on the driver you use |
11:20.38 | tuxick | annma: there's not so much choice, am i missing one? |
11:20.45 | annma | tuxick: do not question other user statement |
11:20.47 | tuxick | feels some hope |
11:20.55 | annma | ask your distro |
11:21.16 | annma | or build yourself as Nyle said he did |
11:21.21 | tuxick | ait-drivers or radeonhd |
11:21.35 | annma | <Nyle> xorg/mesa/radeonhd built from git |
11:21.47 | annma | he said it |
11:22.31 | tuxick | oh well, there's lots of radeons :) |
11:23.43 | Half-Left | XRender is slow at some effects, dont know why |
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11:26.42 | aleksanteri | hmm |
11:26.52 | aleksanteri | 4.00.82 isn't really the 4.1 beta isn't it? :) |
11:27.34 | Half-Left | yes it is, 83 is beta2 |
11:28.09 | aleksanteri | oh |
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11:30.44 | Half-Left | I've got to say, Quassel rocks |
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11:32.23 | liber | Half-Left: shame it is not in the ubuntu repos |
11:32.41 | Half-Left | liber: It;s in the backports |
11:33.37 | liber | Half-Left: meaning? |
11:33.55 | Half-Left | Just enable backports int he package manager |
11:34.03 | liber | ah |
11:34.47 | liber | done :) |
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11:52.39 | cga | hi, i compile kde4 with kdesvn-build. how do i get all the plasmoids? |
11:53.53 | bram85 | cga: look for the kdeplasmoids module.. i wonder if kdesvn-build is aware of it, since the module was introduced recently |
11:53.57 | Half-Left | kdeplasmoids |
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11:56.23 | cga | thanks bram85 Half-Left . is it in extragears? |
11:56.47 | bram85 | no, it's in /trunk/KDE |
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11:58.33 | d1zzy | any dedicated channel for kdeutils/klaptopdaemon discussion? |
11:59.23 | DanielW | cga: you can add kdeplasmoids to kdesvn-build |
11:59.57 | cga | DanielW, oh nice =) how? io was looking on techbase but i can't find |
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12:00.56 | cga | DanielW, module kdeplasmoids \ end module ? |
12:01.28 | DanielW | yes that is everything |
12:02.07 | cga | cool thanks |
12:02.42 | DanielW | there are even more plasmoids in playground (but that will not work with kdesvnbuild) and on kde-looks.org |
12:03.57 | d1zzy | on my latop while reading /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance works fine (and setting various frequencies using cpufreg sysfs interface works fine) it does not work (errors with EIO) to set the performance profile using echo X > /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance |
12:04.12 | d1zzy | I've made a patch for klaptopdaemon that uses the sysfs cpufreq interface instead |
12:04.15 | DanielW | cga: if yo do not know: you can say kdesvn-build to only build kdeplasmoids (as you have build the others already) with kdesvn-build kdeplasmoids |
12:04.36 | d1zzy | my understanding is also that the /proc/acpi interface is obsolete now in the recent kernels so maybe klaptopdaemon should switch to the sysfs cpufreq interface? |
12:04.43 | cga | DanielW, i was tryiong that but it fails |
12:05.14 | DanielW | cga: well you must first add it to the config file |
12:05.23 | cga | done already |
12:05.34 | cga | it says it can't find a snapshot |
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12:05.41 | DanielW | cga: that is no problem |
12:05.44 | cga | but then it compiles anyway |
12:05.48 | cga | no? |
12:05.56 | webustany | hi |
12:06.10 | DanielW | it tries to fetch a snapshot from the kde ftp server. to reduce the load on the svn servers |
12:06.12 | webustany | does someone know how to move widgets in the taskbar in KDE4 svn ? |
12:06.13 | cga | DanielW, what's --reconfigure for? |
12:06.15 | J-23 | hmm |
12:06.19 | webustany | they're all messed up |
12:06.22 | webustany | (since my last logout) |
12:06.30 | J-23 | my KDE 4.00.83 clears panel when I'm logging out |
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12:06.46 | DanielW | cga: it will recall "cmake" for every module |
12:06.55 | DanielW | webustany: you can not move them |
12:07.20 | webustany | DanielW: wow nice... And what do I do when the K button decided to go on the far right of the bar ? |
12:07.21 | cga | *yet |
12:07.22 | DanielW | webustany: you could reset your plasma config by stopping plasma (kquitapp plasma) and then delete the plasma config file and restart plama OR |
12:08.09 | DanielW | webustany: you can remove the kmenu button and then readd it it by drag ond drop from the add wigets dialog. then you can chose the position of it by dragging it to the right place |
12:08.15 | DanielW | d1zzy: mhh |
12:08.27 | webustany | DanielW: I'm going to try the drag & drop stuff, thanks |
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12:09.18 | DanielW | d1zzy: klaptop daemon is not yet ported to kde4. i think it will not get ported, but there will someday come a replace for it. |
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12:09.32 | webustany | DanielW: thanks, it "solved" my problem |
12:09.34 | Yagami | hi |
12:10.51 | DanielW | and there is no active development on 3.5 only maintance (bug fixing) and so on. but if you think that your patch fixes a bug, mail it to the devel ml and maybe it gets included for 3.5.10 (when ever that gets released) |
12:10.52 | d1zzy | DanielW: my patch is for klaptopdaemon 3.5.9 |
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12:11.18 | d1zzy | DanielW: the real bug is probably in the kernel /proc/acpi interface combined with my hardware (I supose it should work on others) |
12:12.00 | d1zzy | so I guess that means no chance to get this into kde, no problem, just asked, I can live happy with having it in portage overlay as a local patch |
12:12.03 | UninformdLuddite | i have only had a brief look at KDE 4.0 and currently run 3.somethingorother! Is it possible to use the old style menu system rather than that new thing? |
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12:12.36 | DanielW | UninformdLuddite: it is possible in 4.1 (beta 2) |
12:13.09 | Yagami | UninformdLuddite: just use the other menu plasmoid ( add plasma elements ) |
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12:13.37 | UninformdLuddite | Maybe it's just me but I didn;t like it and thought it wa a bit kludgy |
12:13.46 | DanielW | you can just right click on it and select "switch to classics menu style" |
12:14.07 | UninformdLuddite | its called kickoff right? |
12:14.08 | Yagami | DanielW: thats on kde3 i think |
12:14.19 | DanielW | UninformdLuddite: well i do not like the way you browse the applications in it, but i really like the search and favorite featue in it |
12:14.20 | Yagami | on kde4 there are 2 menu plasmoids , one kickoff , one oldstyle |
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12:14.23 | DanielW | Yagami: and on 4.1 |
12:14.36 | Yagami | DanielW: not on my 4.1 |
12:14.40 | DanielW | just right click and switch style. |
12:14.51 | DanielW | Yagami: you are really using 4.1 and not 4.0.x? |
12:15.02 | UninformdLuddite | i honestly havent had the oppurtunity to give it a good explore. I will install it when the stable release goes public and is hand rolled for my distro |
12:15.16 | UninformdLuddite | dcop is gone isnt it? |
12:15.24 | DanielW | its gone. replaced by dbus |
12:15.31 | UninformdLuddite | same sort of thing? |
12:16.07 | DanielW | yes, but its not only used in kde but also in gnome and others des/wms and other apps uses it too |
12:16.07 | UninformdLuddite | makes me sentimental for *corcom |
12:16.20 | UninformdLuddite | thats good |
12:16.20 | Yagami | DanielW: yep , beta2 actually |
12:16.43 | DanielW | Yagami: so just click right on the kmenu and there should be that option "switch to classic style menu" |
12:16.56 | DanielW | on the button |
12:16.59 | DanielW | in the panel |
12:17.02 | DanielW | the K |
12:17.04 | d1zzy | there is a typo on the kde.org main page about beta 2 release: |
12:17.22 | d1zzy | On 24th June 2008, The KDE Community released KDE 4.1 Beta 2, aimed at testers, community members and enthusiasts in order to identify bugs and regressions, so that 4.1 can fully replace KDE 3 for end users. KDE 4.1 beta 1 is available as binary packages for a wide range of platforms, and as source packages. |
12:17.34 | Yagami | DanielW: there isnt , its just a menu plasmoid |
12:17.35 | d1zzy | beta 1 is available as binary packages? :) |
12:18.26 | DanielW | d1zzy: kde itself does not provide binary packages. so that depends on your distro |
12:18.51 | Yagami | d1zzy: which distro are you using ? |
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12:18.53 | DanielW | for ubuntu/kubutu there are. for archlinux too, i heard about debian packages. |
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12:19.27 | DanielW | Yagami: uh can not understand it. it is here and was here for some months |
12:19.49 | Yagami | DanielW: :) |
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12:20.09 | Jucato | Yagami: are your widgets locked? |
12:20.12 | d1zzy | in the kde 4.1 beta 2 announcement it says that kde 4.1 beta 1 binary packages are available |
12:20.16 | d1zzy | isn't that a typo? |
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12:20.20 | d1zzy | or am I the only one reading it |
12:20.46 | Jucato | d1zzy: could be a typo or un-updated text, but doesn't make the sentence false :) |
12:20.48 | hays | build from svn.. it puts hair on your chest |
12:21.03 | Yagami | Jucato: yes , why ? |
12:21.06 | DanielW | Yagami: http://arch.der-winti.de/kde/kmenu.png |
12:21.13 | mapomapo | hi all! |
12:21.16 | Yagami | Jucato: yep thats it |
12:21.22 | Yagami | DanielW: sorry , you are right |
12:21.23 | Jucato | Yagami: that's why |
12:21.32 | Yagami | it must be with elements unlocked |
12:21.38 | Yagami | sorry sorry sorry |
12:21.42 | Jucato | nods |
12:21.46 | Jucato | :) |
12:22.29 | d1zzy | kdeutils in general will be rewriten as oposed to being ported or just klaptopdaemon has some design flaw that it makes it pointless to be ported? |
12:23.00 | d1zzy | I find klaptopdaemon pretty useful, works nice and dandy (well except that /proc/acpi issue which is mostly a kernel fault with my hw combo) |
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12:23.31 | Jucato | d1zzy: kdeutils is made up of numerous apps with different maintainers. it's kinda hard to make a generalization that it (everything in the module) will be rewritten in general |
12:23.59 | Jucato | it's up to each app developer (team) to decide on that one. you can probably try contacting klaptop's |
12:24.24 | d1zzy | Jucato: I failed to find the homepage of the klaptopdaemon team, can you help? |
12:24.55 | Jucato | d1zzy: look in klaptopdaemon's Help -> About <name of app>... usually the authors/maintainers would be there |
12:25.05 | Jucato | not every KDE app has a webpage |
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12:25.33 | d1zzy | there is no menu, thus no about :) |
12:25.47 | d1zzy | it's only a tray icon and a kontrol module |
12:26.32 | Jucato | no right-click menu? |
12:26.47 | Jucato | or in the source code, there would be an AUTHORS file |
12:27.24 | d1zzy | seems there is a single author for it, will contact him, thanks for the AUTHORS sugestion |
12:28.12 | tictric | hey, could there be an easy explanation why activating strigi in systemsettings beta2 shows no effekt? |
12:28.22 | tictric | Like it's not implemented yet? :) |
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12:28.38 | Jucato | tictric: try running it from the command line and find out (strigidaemon I think) |
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12:29.39 | Yagami | i woundt recommend enabling strigi |
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12:29.59 | Yagami | everytime i enable strigi , a few hours later , i have no hard disk left ( and i usually have 10 GB free ) |
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12:30.35 | Jucato | strigi for KDE 3 or 4? |
12:30.58 | tictric | Jucato: kde4 |
12:31.35 | Jucato | tictric: I was asking Yagami, sorry |
12:32.36 | Yagami | Jucato: kde4 , sorry |
12:32.41 | tictric | If I start strigi from kde3 in konqueror it starts indexing |
12:32.41 | Yagami | Jucato: was a little away |
12:32.59 | tictric | It shows then strigi running in kde4 systemsettings |
12:33.11 | tictric | I enable strigi search there |
12:33.45 | tictric | strigi shows no activity anymore and green light says strigi not running |
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12:34.08 | tictric | are kde3 and kde4 strigi incompatible? |
12:35.21 | thiago_home | there's no KDE 3 strigi |
12:35.57 | Jucato | thiago_home: a.k.a. the version of strigi Kubuntu shipped with that works with KDE 3 (presuming it worked) |
12:36.06 | Jucato | old version I think |
12:36.33 | stdin | I'm not sure that strigi ever "worked" |
12:36.46 | Jucato | shrugs |
12:36.49 | tictric | well from what I observe it behaves like that on my machine |
12:37.00 | d1zzy | Jucato: the people in AUTHORS are the current active maintainers or they are just the person who originally written that component and when it got merged into kdeutils they are maintained by some core kdeutils people? |
12:37.09 | tictric | stdin got a point :) |
12:37.55 | Jucato | d1zzy: I think it's usually updated |
12:37.56 | tictric | I'm using beagle still which doesn't keep me from experimenting sometimes |
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12:38.04 | mib_wyrty7rk | http://www.yeargh.com/53-fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools.html War is peace! |
12:38.17 | d1zzy | ok |
12:39.00 | Jucato | DblSpeak: and this has relation to KDE how? |
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12:39.36 | d1zzy | there are scottish fathers in the kde team |
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12:39.51 | d1zzy | :) |
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12:39.58 | Jucato | nice try. but no |
12:39.59 | DblSpeak | I'm just spreading the good word. I'm a high priest of the religion of political correctness. If you disagree with me I'll have police investigate you for hate crime. |
12:40.05 | Half-Left | lol |
12:40.21 | sandsmark | DblSpeak: vive la retardation? |
12:40.34 | Jucato | DblSpeak: sure. but until then. keep the offtopic out. there's #kde-chat for that |
12:40.45 | DblSpeak | That sounds like hateful, vile, bigoted, discriminatory hate speech |
12:41.27 | sandsmark | and you express yourself like a sarcastic commie =P |
12:41.43 | stdin | I'm a member of the "don't give a crap" church, you are discriminating against my religion by posting things and expecting me to give a crap |
12:41.45 | Jucato | enough of that |
12:41.55 | sandsmark | stdin: ++ |
12:42.18 | sandsmark | I'm not a father, and I'm not scottish, but I do like plasma =) |
12:42.28 | DblSpeak | I detect hate mongers in this sector. Scotty, file the reports. |
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12:43.03 | pinotree | DblSpeak: i detect a troll here: YOU |
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12:43.27 | d1zzy | eh |
12:43.29 | pinotree | DblSpeak: "freenode" does NOT imply you can spread your stuff everywhere |
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12:43.35 | Half-Left | Here it comes |
12:43.37 | d1zzy | "spread" |
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12:44.12 | DblSpeak | You are currently participating in a hateful, bigoted attack on my identity and indeed upon tolerance itself |
12:44.27 | d1zzy | I think it's a bot |
12:44.34 | DblSpeak | Stop the discrimination against people who identify as trolls! |
12:44.39 | DblSpeak | Bull! |
12:44.48 | sandsmark | DblSpeak: I like turtles! |
12:44.59 | sandsmark | DblSpeak: and so? |
12:45.09 | Jucato | DblSpeak: this is not a channel for your political or social views |
12:45.12 | Jucato | so enough |
12:45.26 | pinotree | DblSpeak: you don't understand: i do not care about what you ARE, but about what you DO in here |
12:45.28 | Jucato | you want to express them? go to ##politics or ##offtopic or wherever it is appropriate |
12:45.47 | pinotree | DblSpeak: NOW, you are doing the troll, period. |
12:45.53 | sandsmark | #not-physics is also good for this =) |
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12:46.13 | pinotree | DblSpeak: you ae kindly invited to bring your own stuff (that has NOTHING to do with THIS channel) elsewhere |
12:46.26 | DblSpeak | I am hurt by this atmosphere of intolerance and bigotry. |
12:46.35 | Jucato | right... I've had enough |
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12:46.52 | Half-Left | By, by :p |
12:46.56 | hays | dances a jig. |
12:46.59 | pinotree | that mask won't be enough, sadly |
12:47.16 | sandsmark | Jucato: you should remove the ban rather quickly, it's a generic web irc client |
12:47.17 | Jucato | unfortunately |
12:47.22 | tech9iner | lmao... |
12:47.23 | stdin | ban the ident |
12:47.27 | stdin | (hex encoded IP) |
12:47.38 | pinotree | not even |
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12:47.43 | tech9iner | notes the nick.. clearly troll'ic by design |
12:49.00 | tech9iner | one more bored teenager.. perhaps preteen with no parent monitoring... forces Jucato & pinotree to earn their ahem.. salaries here.. not.. ;]] |
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12:51.52 | d1zzy | or a social researcher wanting to see the average time it takes to get a ban on the various community channels |
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12:51.58 | d1zzy | I knew once someone that was doing that |
12:52.12 | Jucato | right. let's just drop the subject |
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12:52.50 | Barbelos | Does flash work with Konqueror in KDE 4.0.5? |
12:53.15 | sandsmark | works for me (tm) |
12:53.17 | sandsmark | but ymmv |
12:53.35 | sandsmark | or, maybe not 4.0.5, but in the betas at least =) |
12:53.44 | TWD | works for me too (that said, im on trunc) |
12:54.07 | Jucato | in short, it may not be working in 4.0 but does in 4.1 |
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12:54.32 | sandsmark | Jucato: thanks =) |
12:55.02 | Barbelos | sandsmark: Are you using packages for your distro, and in that case which one? |
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12:55.50 | sandsmark | Barbelos: I use Arch Linux, and using the packages from http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=782 (it is out of date, the latest available are 8.0.83), and please come to #shaman-arch if you want more info =) |
12:56.21 | Jucato | good :) |
12:56.24 | Barbelos | Hmm... Ok. Not much help to me, but interesting to know it works for some at least |
12:56.33 | sandsmark | Barbelos: what distro are you on? |
12:56.42 | sandsmark | most provide 4.1 beta packages |
12:56.45 | Jucato | Barbelos: he did mention that he was on trunk (a.k.a. NOT 4.0.5... so...) |
12:57.21 | Barbelos | sandsmark: opensuse 11 - I know there are 4.1 beta packages for it, so maybe I should try that. Was a bit rough around the edges last time I tried though |
12:57.36 | Barbelos | Jucato: Yeah, just realized he meant trunk, heh |
12:57.38 | sandsmark | Barbelos: it has improved a lot the last couple of releases, imho |
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12:57.49 | sandsmark | much better than 4.0 |
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12:58.06 | sandsmark | so much that I have removed 3.5 completely =) |
12:58.13 | _Infinity_ | is there a rpm to install 4.1? |
12:58.26 | Barbelos | Well, I like the new features of trunk - so maybe I should see if the OpenSUSE packages are semi-stable now |
12:58.34 | annma | _Infinity_: ask your distro channel please |
12:58.34 | Jucato | _Infinity_: please ask in your distro's channel |
12:58.39 | sandsmark | =) |
12:58.42 | annma | :) |
12:58.47 | annma | twin speakers |
12:58.52 | _Infinity_ | :D |
12:58.53 | sandsmark | here, annma pwned Jucato =) |
12:59.02 | Half-Left | To many cooks now :p |
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12:59.06 | sandsmark | :P |
12:59.12 | annma | :) |
12:59.21 | Jucato | doesn't really matter who was first. we thought the same is all that matters |
12:59.24 | Jucato | :) |
12:59.44 | sandsmark | Jucato: nono, here in norway it is customary that you buy a bottle of Coca Cola to the other person =) |
13:00.01 | Jucato | here, it's customary to just knock on woo |
13:00.04 | Jucato | d |
13:00.06 | sandsmark | =P |
13:00.07 | Jucato | oops.. dropped my 'd' |
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13:01.25 | zenstar | in KDE4 is there a way to highlight multiple widgets at once to delete them off plasma desktop? |
13:01.50 | SkoroWork | hey, I've got a konsole related question... I just recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to 9, and in the process it seems that konsole changed quite a bit. In particular I'm noticing a lot of differences with the profile stuff |
13:02.22 | SkoroWork | I used to be able to setup what the old konsole called a "Profile" which was a group of sessions, and I could instruct it to load that profile on launch, and it would spawn all of the sessions for me |
13:02.28 | Jucato | (yes.. a lot has changed between KDE 3 and KDE 4 Konsole...) |
13:02.33 | Half-Left | zenstar: Hold down Ctrl in the Add widets menu |
13:02.42 | SkoroWork | is that functionality still there and I just can't find it? or is it gone? |
13:03.24 | annma | SkoroWork: Settings -> Edit current profiles |
13:03.39 | annma | Settings -> Manage profiles |
13:03.52 | SkoroWork | well that will help me change settings for the individual profiles, but how do I load a group of them all at once? |
13:03.56 | annma | have a look in there please |
13:04.07 | fishsponge_ | is there any widget that i can put on a Panel to show me CPU/Memory/Network/Disk Usage graphs? like ksysguard in KDE3.5 ? |
13:04.07 | annma | load a group of profiles? |
13:04.12 | fishsponge_ | i'm using KDE4, of course |
13:04.23 | annma | fishsponge_: ksysguard is in kde4 |
13:04.38 | annma | but there's no widget yet fo rit |
13:04.39 | zenstar | Half-Left: I mean icons, in gnome I could highligh a bunch of icons and select a file operation such as delete, copy/paste etc.. in KDE4 when you click on one icon on the desktop it gives you the option "Remove this Icon".. how do you do that for multiple icons without having to repeate the task for each individual folder |
13:04.44 | sandsmark | fishsponge_: I have a system monitor applet |
13:04.47 | sandsmark | *plasmoid |
13:04.55 | sandsmark | it might come from extragear or something |
13:05.03 | SkoroWork | annma: yes. in kde3 konsole a "Profile" was actually a group of "sessions" I guess, you could save a snapshot of all the open tabs, and when you loaded that Profile again all of those tabs would be re-opened |
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13:05.23 | ^^MAg^^ | how stable is kde 4.1 beta ? |
13:05.25 | SkoroWork | it seems that the nomenclature has been changed a bit such that a "profile" is now a single session |
13:05.34 | sandsmark | ^^MAg^^: very, for me =) |
13:05.34 | annma | ^^MAg^^: as a beta!!! |
13:05.37 | ^^MAg^^ | I mean is this worth installing and testing |
13:05.38 | sandsmark | I use it as my main desktop |
13:05.41 | SkoroWork | I get that, but I'm just trying to find out if the old functionality is still intact |
13:05.57 | ^^MAg^^ | hehe seems to have a good PR and uderstanding here ;-) |
13:05.59 | annma | a beta is for testing Mag and change the ^ in your nick |
13:06.13 | annma | you have an unfriendly nick Mag |
13:06.36 | annma | SkoroWork: did you try it or do you want me to look? |
13:06.39 | zenstar | I agree |
13:06.49 | ^^MAg^^ | It's just my nick, have this for years and I am really frienly sometimes :> |
13:06.49 | annma | SkoroWork: I don't understand if you are curious or complaining |
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13:06.53 | sandsmark | annma: I think konversation is able to tabcomple just on mag =) |
13:06.57 | sandsmark | *complete |
13:07.11 | annma | nope |
13:07.15 | annma | magyar_: |
13:07.28 | SkoroWork | annma: I'm using it right now, and I am unable to find the functionality. I'm trying to find out if it has moved or has been REmoved |
13:07.48 | Half-Left | zenstar: Folder View lets you to that if you set ti to desktop |
13:07.58 | Half-Left | do* |
13:08.24 | zenstar | Half-Left: How do I get into Folder View mode? |
13:08.41 | Half-Left | zenstar: 4.1? |
13:08.51 | zenstar | Half-Left: Yes |
13:08.56 | annma | SkoroWork: I think it does not work |
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13:09.17 | annma | SkoroWork: I tested a profile with 2 tabs, profile named annma and set it as default |
13:09.25 | annma | SkoroWork: it is not loaded at start |
13:09.28 | Camu\ | hey, when i set to open konqueror when i put cd to computers cd-drive. how can i reset that option? |
13:09.35 | Camu\ | you know what i mean? |
13:09.38 | Half-Left | zenstar: Folder view is a plasmoid widget |
13:09.56 | sandsmark | Camu\: kde 3 or 4? |
13:10.00 | Camu\ | kde 3 |
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13:10.19 | Camu\ | thought they aren't that much different |
13:10.23 | Camu\ | so i didn't tell that |
13:10.36 | sandsmark | Camu\: it is somewhere in kcontrol |
13:10.40 | sandsmark | =) |
13:10.42 | zenstar | Half-Left: Where can I find it? Under add widget? |
13:10.43 | Camu\ | :D |
13:10.44 | Half-Left | zenstar: Baically what you can do with it is set ti to your Desktop folder and put you icons there |
13:10.45 | annma | SkoroWork: I guess a bug report is needed, I checked to find the devel but he is not there |
13:10.47 | Jucato | KControl -> Peripherals -> Storage Media |
13:10.50 | Half-Left | yes |
13:10.58 | Camu\ | thanks |
13:11.11 | annma | SkoroWork: if I define a profile and if i set it as default, is it meant to load at start? |
13:11.14 | sandsmark | damn, beaten to the punch :P |
13:11.26 | zenstar | Half-Left: I don't see anything listed as Folder View |
13:12.01 | Half-Left | Then either you dont have 4.1 or the widgets |
13:12.27 | SkoroWork | annma: no, it was a command line option, I could specify a profile name to launch with, and it would load up all of the tabs I had saved |
13:12.32 | alterf | does anybody know any pages with regard to nvidia geeforce 7 series + kde 4? |
13:12.52 | zenstar | Half-Left: Actually It's 4.0.4, sorry |
13:12.54 | Half-Left | alterf: Pages? |
13:13.02 | alterf | websites? |
13:13.04 | Half-Left | zenstar: 4.1 only sorry |
13:13.16 | Half-Left | alterf: In what regard? |
13:13.32 | zenstar | Half-Left: Which repo do I have to add to get 4.1? Using opensuse 11 |
13:13.58 | Half-Left | zenstar: Ask your distro channel, I dont use Opensuse |
13:14.14 | annma | SkoroWork: so Default profile does nothing? |
13:14.23 | annma | save as default does nothing? |
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13:14.34 | zenstar | Half-Left: Thanks, I'll ask |
13:14.35 | annma | anyway konsole --profile annma doe snot load it |
13:14.47 | alterf | Half-Left kde just works to slow with nvidia driver for me |
13:14.59 | Jucato | alterf: nothing specific for the driver, but in general: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin |
13:15.08 | Jucato | (specially with kwin effects) |
13:15.26 | Half-Left | alterf: Yes, it's a know issue with the nvidia driver |
13:15.55 | Half-Left | alterf: If you dont use 3d then use the nv driver, it's much faster for 2d and XRender |
13:16.04 | alterf | for now there are no solutions for that? |
13:16.07 | alterf | ok |
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13:16.31 | annma | ok not very helpful |
13:17.05 | Half-Left | alterf: It's sharper, faster and you can use kwin effects |
13:17.27 | alterf | Half-Left thx, i will try it |
13:17.29 | annma | sighs |
13:18.29 | sandsmark | gives annma a cup of cacao |
13:18.57 | annma | is drinking a COca |
13:19.02 | annma | cafeine!!! |
13:19.10 | sandsmark | =D=D=D |
13:19.22 | Half-Left | I like my coffee to |
13:19.29 | Camu\ | coffee <33 |
13:19.42 | Half-Left | Dont give me cheao stuff either |
13:19.48 | Half-Left | cheap* |
13:19.57 | sandsmark | I've never learned to drink coffee |
13:20.00 | sandsmark | I blame my parents |
13:20.02 | sandsmark | =) |
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13:20.58 | Half-Left | New Sim-glow update is really nice |
13:21.56 | Half-Left | When the scroll bar is fixed I'll be really happy :) |
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13:23.46 | fishsponge_ | annma: does ksysguard have an applet/widget that can sit in a Panel though? |
13:24.04 | fishsponge_ | sandsmark: does your system monitor applet work in KDE4, or is it a KDE3.5 applet? |
13:24.14 | sandsmark | kde 4 |
13:24.29 | sandsmark | it didn't work too well on the panel, though, it expanded too much |
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13:24.42 | annma | fishsponge_: not yet for ksysguard |
13:25.18 | fishsponge_ | sandsmark: if i want to try it, where can i find it? |
13:25.37 | sandsmark | dunno, it came with the other plasmoids |
13:25.41 | sandsmark | you using 4.1? |
13:25.50 | sandsmark | (beta 2 or something?) |
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13:26.51 | Half-Left | does some artwork |
13:26.58 | fishsponge_ | sandsmark: i'm using whatever is the latest available through openSUSE 11.0 online updates |
13:27.11 | sandsmark | fishsponge_: well, I have no idea how opensuse works =) |
13:27.30 | sandsmark | fishsponge_: I just know that I clicked on "add applets", and dragged out some various system monitoring ones =) |
13:27.33 | fishsponge_ | i think i'm on 4.0 basically |
13:27.36 | sandsmark | cpu, memory, temperature, the normal ones |
13:27.39 | fishsponge_ | if 4.1 is in Beta, then i'm probably not on it |
13:27.44 | sandsmark | I use 4.0.83 |
13:27.47 | fishsponge_ | that's all i want - cpu, memory, temperature |
13:27.54 | fishsponge_ | network would also be nice, but not important |
13:28.01 | sandsmark | I do have network =) |
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13:31.56 | fishsponge_ | what package name should i look for to find out the version number of KDE? |
13:32.35 | fishsponge_ | i have "kde4-kwin-4.0.4-24.2" and "kdebase4-session-4.0.4-6.1" if that helps |
13:32.48 | dwins | fishsponge_: you can just run any kde app with --version |
13:33.23 | _Infinity_ | fishsponge_: you most likely have 4.0.4 |
13:33.24 | fishsponge_ | KDE: 4.0.4 (KDE 4.0.4 >= 20080505) "release 15.1" |
13:33.43 | fishsponge_ | how would i get to that applet/widget if i had the right version? |
13:34.45 | sandsmark | ask in #opensuse |
13:34.50 | sandsmark | I don't know how they package it |
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13:44.18 | d1zzy | does kde 4 konqueror use the SOCKS setting or is it like in kde3 where konquerer completely ignores it while other applications (kmail, knode, kopete) use it? |
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14:02.04 | Danmer | in beta2 |
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14:03.34 | Nightrose | since installing 4.1 beta 2 I get the beep sound every time a window is raised (like opening krunner) - how can i turn it off again? can't seem to find anything in the notification setting |
14:03.55 | liber | Nightrose: in systemsettings |
14:04.03 | Nightrose | liber: yes but where ;-) |
14:04.06 | liber | Nightrose: under the notifications module |
14:04.17 | Nightrose | ok and then? |
14:04.29 | liber | go to kwin in the dropdown menu |
14:04.42 | Nightrose | there is no kwin there for me |
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14:04.58 | Nightrose | ohhhhh |
14:05.00 | Nightrose | never mind |
14:05.02 | liber | then I have no idea what the option is called |
14:05.04 | Nightrose | headdesks |
14:05.10 | liber | "the kde windowmanager" :) |
14:05.11 | Nightrose | thanks liber ;-) |
14:05.23 | Nightrose | I just didn't see the scrollbar |
14:05.38 | liber | np.. |
14:09.01 | Danmer | does anybody use ark from kde4 here? -_- |
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14:09.53 | sandsmark | Danmer: yes |
14:10.29 | Danmer | sandsmark: i have only 2 supported filetypes - rar and iso. do you have the same issue? |
14:10.35 | sandsmark | nope |
14:10.39 | sandsmark | what distro? |
14:10.56 | Danmer | gentoo, but i've built manually |
14:11.09 | sandsmark | *cough*morelikefailtoo*cough* |
14:11.13 | sandsmark | it even opens .jar's =) |
14:11.21 | pedepy | LoOOOOOL fail |
14:11.23 | sandsmark | (easy to get, as I'm working on java applets =) |
14:11.45 | Danmer | pedepy: relax |
14:11.54 | pedepy | ah im relaxing |
14:12.15 | sandsmark | and tar.gz's |
14:12.16 | pedepy | im sitting under the shade of a tree, on my balcony, watching people to go work, waiting for my new fridge to get delivered |
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14:12.27 | pedepy | stealing wifi, chatting.. |
14:12.51 | Jucato | talking nonsense in #kde... |
14:13.00 | sandsmark | distracting me from work =3 |
14:13.10 | pedepy | ill try ark ... last i did i was having all sortsa problems too |
14:13.48 | sandsmark | ark in kde 4 really shines, compared to the 3.5 version |
14:13.52 | Danmer | oh..it's my fault |
14:14.12 | Jucato | sandsmark: my 1 week-old kdeutils build couldn't open .tar.gz... |
14:14.24 | sandsmark | Jucato: then you have huge amounts of fail |
14:14.31 | sandsmark | Jucato: as I just opened one =) |
14:14.33 | Danmer | i didn't install libzip and libarchive X_X |
14:14.45 | sandsmark | =) |
14:14.52 | Jucato | sandsmark: I probably just need to recompile |
14:16.23 | pedepy | ok this is what iget: tried to extract a tar.gz archive, and it extracted only contents of one particular folder within the archive, and not the rest |
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14:17.27 | sandsmark | pedepy: then you probably selected one folder =) |
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14:17.36 | pedepy | NAH |
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14:17.49 | sandsmark | YAH |
14:17.58 | cga | ACK / SYN |
14:18.04 | sandsmark | RST RST RST RST RST |
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14:18.29 | Jucato | drop the caps please |
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14:18.42 | pedepy | well |
14:18.51 | pedepy | now it worked on another archive, however, I *had* not seleced anything |
14:18.55 | cga | Jucato, acronyms are in caps =) |
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14:19.24 | Jucato | out of context |
14:19.25 | sandsmark | and network packets need to shout, otherwise noone can hear them |
14:19.28 | sandsmark | they're so small |
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14:21.31 | pedepy | boy there is alot of files in the XNU kernel |
14:21.35 | liber | Jucato: caps is cruise control for cool... |
14:22.03 | padde | i can't get scim/skim to work in kde4.1 (beta 2 from svn) - any hints? |
14:22.14 | sandsmark | don't use it? |
14:22.26 | padde | sandsmark: what's the alternative? |
14:22.36 | sandsmark | I don't know, you asked for hints =3 |
14:22.40 | pedepy | so one thing ive noticed since my last few KDE 4.1 'beta' upgrades, is that dolphin will stall & freeze for a short when selecting video files |
14:22.43 | pedepy | anyone else getting that ? |
14:22.47 | pedepy | its annoying |
14:22.51 | sandsmark | padde: maybe more specific? |
14:22.56 | sandsmark | pedepy: noticed it myself |
14:23.01 | padde | sandsmark: lol... you want me to carve chinese letters into the touchpad or what? ;) |
14:23.02 | sandsmark | I think it tries to generate thumbnails |
14:23.08 | pedepy | some retard is driving the wrong way on my one way street |
14:23.10 | sandsmark | padde: sounds like a great idea =) |
14:23.14 | pedepy | just thought id let you guys know |
14:23.15 | padde | sandsmark: when i right click the scim tray icon, click configure, it scim crashed |
14:23.23 | sandsmark | pedepy: it's your fridge |
14:23.29 | pedepy | ohw! |
14:23.32 | Danmer | not only video but pdf too |
14:23.32 | sandsmark | padde: sounds like a bug |
14:23.43 | pedepy | <- i was gonna CAP that but then i remembered.. |
14:23.45 | sandsmark | Danmer: probably generating thumbnails =) |
14:23.49 | Danmer | perhaps |
14:23.57 | pedepy | well its failing at it |
14:24.03 | sandsmark | I think only image files have a global cache |
14:24.09 | padde | sandsmark: indeed. but i can't believe there is no way to input chinese / japanese / ... in kde4 currently. that would mean all of east asia can't do anything with it |
14:24.23 | sandsmark | padde: well, which distro are you using? |
14:24.33 | padde | sandsmark: gentoo |
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14:24.48 | sandsmark | padde: well, then you have probably done something wrong =) |
14:24.55 | sandsmark | forgot some package or something |
14:25.19 | sandsmark | if you can reproduce it on OpenSuse or Fedora, otoh =) |
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14:25.52 | padde | hm ok... i'll try in one of these |
14:26.01 | padde | in 2 or 3 weeks, after the download finished |
14:26.07 | sandsmark | =) |
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14:26.25 | sandsmark | well, in gentoo you're the one responsible for including all the right packages, linkage and everything =) |
14:26.38 | padde | sandsmark: no, the devs do that ;) |
14:26.46 | padde | sandsmark: and usually they are pretty good at it |
14:26.54 | Jucato | hm? |
14:26.58 | padde | sandsmark: and skim works perfectly in kde 3 |
14:27.07 | sandsmark | padde: well, 90% of the times when I help Gentoo people (including myself), it was usually pebkac =) |
14:27.12 | sandsmark | *is |
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14:27.56 | padde | sandsmark: but then again, when you help ubuntu/debian people, it's usually their weird patches that make everything behave differently... isn't it? ;) |
14:28.11 | sandsmark | padde: they usually know what they do |
14:28.14 | sandsmark | =P |
14:28.19 | padde | muahahaha |
14:28.28 | sandsmark | (except for the poor multimedia-guy who got responsibility for openssl =( |
14:28.31 | sandsmark | *=) |
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14:28.59 | padde | hehe, that guy can never come out of his hole |
14:29.03 | padde | not in 100 years |
14:29.08 | sandsmark | ;) |
14:29.15 | padde | he will even appear in school books |
14:29.28 | Jucato | #kde.. remember? |
14:29.30 | sandsmark | well, he's responsible for a major drop in debian usage around here =) |
14:29.34 | sandsmark | oh =D |
14:29.47 | padde | Jucato: uh... yeah... do you have an idea about skim? |
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14:30.19 | Jucato | padde: only that it might not work in KDE 4 since it's still in KDE 3? |
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14:30.40 | Danmer | ark now works |
14:30.51 | sandsmark | =D |
14:30.53 | padde | Jucato: thought so... there doesn't seem to be a kde4 version around... are there other input methods available? |
14:31.11 | Jucato | none that I know of. sorry... |
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14:31.19 | padde | bummer |
14:31.23 | Half-Left | Ark in 4.1? |
14:31.50 | sandsmark | yeah |
14:32.00 | pedepy | no it doesnt |
14:32.06 | sandsmark | it does |
14:32.10 | Half-Left | Last time I tried to extract it didn't :p |
14:32.46 | sandsmark | worked here, and messed up my home folder =3 |
14:32.59 | Danmer | o_o |
14:33.16 | Half-Left | I have to use file-roller |
14:33.27 | Danmer | alt-tab sometimes doesn't work |
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14:34.05 | Danmer | hmm..what am i to do with amarok.. |
14:34.20 | sandsmark | amarok2 is getting there =) |
14:34.33 | sandsmark | it mostly works here |
14:34.44 | pedepy | amarok2 doesnt even start here.. |
14:34.51 | Half-Left | Wait for it to work :) |
14:34.51 | pedepy | wtf repo are you using sandsmark |
14:35.03 | sandsmark | pedepy: archlinux/kdemod? |
14:35.06 | pedepy | yea ? |
14:35.07 | sandsmark | 4.0.83 |
14:35.19 | pedepy | yeah thats what i have.. |
14:35.26 | sandsmark | x86_64 |
14:35.32 | sandsmark | funkyou is on holiday |
14:35.41 | pedepy | im x86 but that shouldnt be the difference.. |
14:35.47 | pedepy | i get a nasty ass crash when i try to start amarok.. |
14:36.07 | sandsmark | tried deleting the amarok-settings? |
14:36.33 | Danmer | i built it on July 1st, but it's playlist was unusable |
14:36.36 | pedepy | http://pastebin.com/m2e00c651 |
14:36.42 | pedepy | no? how do i do that |
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14:37.21 | sandsmark | pedepy: well, we build amarok from svn |
14:37.35 | sandsmark | I'll ask funkyou to rebuild when he comes back |
14:37.45 | pedepy | but eh .. you think if i reset my settings ? |
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14:37.55 | WaY | hello |
14:37.56 | sandsmark | rm -rf ~/.kdemod/share/apps/amarok |
14:38.06 | pedepy | i thats be right, i had my ~/.kdemod dir stripped cleaned after i went from 4.0.69 to 4.0.82 |
14:38.15 | sandsmark | k |
14:38.16 | pedepy | ^ that can't be right |
14:38.18 | pedepy | i mean |
14:38.19 | pedepy | anyway |
14:38.24 | sandsmark | =P |
14:38.45 | pedepy | come on fridge.. |
14:39.10 | pedepy | why do delivery companies not give you a better time window that "all day" i never understood that.. |
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14:39.19 | pedepy | than |
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14:39.36 | pedepy | i need coffee but i cant leave my porch |
14:39.40 | pedepy | ahhhhhh |
14:39.48 | farhad_hf | is there any repository for kde 4.1beta2 for debian lenny ? |
14:39.56 | pedepy | lol lenny |
14:40.06 | Danmer | it would be great to change icon size in kickoff.. |
14:40.18 | Jucato | farhad_hf: #debian or #debian-kde please |
14:40.24 | pedepy | i would also be great to change kickoff |
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14:40.34 | pedepy | is there another menu in the works ? |
14:40.35 | sandsmark | misses tastymenu |
14:40.37 | Jucato | pedepy: right-click -> Switch to Classic mode |
14:40.42 | pedepy | i thought kickoff was being scrapped for 4.1 |
14:40.46 | sandsmark | pedepy: several |
14:40.47 | Jucato | ... |
14:40.52 | pedepy | Jucato: yea i got that, i just mean, you know, a newer one |
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14:40.58 | sandsmark | raptor, though development has slided |
14:41.04 | sandsmark | and then there's that grail-thingy |
14:41.08 | Jucato | Lancelot |
14:41.11 | Jucato | also slided |
14:41.11 | shyam_k | hi when will be the kde translation freeze for 4.1? i was thinking of co-ordinating a sprint.. |
14:41.15 | sandsmark | yeah |
14:41.18 | pedepy | and they can live as plasmoids within my taskbar? |
14:41.23 | shyam_k | s/translation/localisation/ |
14:41.24 | Danmer | clicking a few times to get to app icon is evil |
14:41.24 | sandsmark | and TastyMenu might come after a while |
14:41.42 | pedepy | i dont need any fancy sliding animations, just give me a menu, but pimp it up you know .. with pictures maybe and stuff .. |
14:41.46 | sandsmark | krunner pwns =) |
14:41.47 | Jucato | Danmer: that's what the Favorites tab and the search bar is for... |
14:41.52 | pedepy | its the one thing thats off in KDE4 |
14:42.03 | pedepy | yea true that .. i just end up firing up everything from krunner too |
14:42.35 | Danmer | Jucato: and typing to search the name is more evil..and it would be great to be able to decrease the size of icons in favourites :) |
14:42.57 | pedepy | i wonder what that OSX dock bar plasmoid is gonna look like |
14:43.12 | pedepy | kxdocker was neat for that, hardly ever needed to use the kmenu with that |
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14:43.59 | sandsmark | peach-thingy? |
14:44.13 | sandsmark | it should be available to you with kdemod |
14:44.27 | pedepy | yeah but its.. |
14:44.31 | pedepy | incomplete? |
14:44.32 | sandsmark | :P |
14:44.34 | pedepy | a truck is coming |
14:44.43 | shyam_k | we would like to make our language too be officially included in kde 4.1 can i fix the sprint for the coming weekend? |
14:44.51 | shyam_k | when is the string freeze? |
14:45.02 | shyam_k | localisation string freeze? |
14:45.03 | sandsmark | shyam_k: http://l10n.kde.org/ |
14:45.07 | shyam_k | thanks |
14:45.13 | Jucato | shyam_k: you can also try asking in #kde-devel |
14:45.22 | pedepy | what language is that |
14:45.38 | Jucato | what language is what? |
14:45.40 | aleksanteri | hmm |
14:46.04 | aleksanteri | i get this when cmaking yakuake: "CMake Error: ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in /home/aleksanteri/.kde4/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps" |
14:46.09 | pedepy | sandsmark: that 'peachy' plasmoid just pops as an 'unknown plasmoid' for me .. no UI whatsoever, even |
14:46.10 | aleksanteri | is there any place where i can get that file? :) |
14:46.21 | sandsmark | urk |
14:46.31 | pedepy | urk? |
14:46.38 | sandsmark | blame funkyou =P |
14:46.45 | pedepy | damn that funkyou |
14:47.16 | Jucato | aleksanteri: have you installed KDE headers? |
14:47.22 | Jucato | KDE 4* headers |
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14:48.04 | aleksanteri | hmm.. |
14:48.13 | aleksanteri | are they in the kde4-development package? :) |
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14:48.24 | Jucato | dunno. depends on your distro |
14:48.28 | aleksanteri | hmm.. no |
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14:48.46 | Jucato | kdelibs4-devel or something like that. ask your distro |
14:49.08 | sandsmark | aleksanteri: which distro? |
14:49.12 | aleksanteri | debian |
14:49.15 | aleksanteri | brb -> |
14:49.19 | Jucato | <- ok |
14:49.28 | sandsmark | not all distros have that absurd notion of splitting into -dev-libraries =P |
14:49.50 | Jucato | like I said, "depends on your distro". and since he seemed to be talking about binary packages... |
14:50.03 | Jucato | (source-based distros usually don't split anyway) |
14:50.22 | sandsmark | (Arch isn't source based =) |
14:50.26 | sandsmark | but nvm |
14:50.32 | Jucato | ... |
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14:50.44 | aleksanteri | hm |
14:50.47 | aleksanteri | "kdelibs4-dev is already the newest version." |
14:51.30 | Jucato | um try kdelibs5-dev.. ask in #debian to be sure |
14:51.37 | Jucato | (funky Debian numbering) |
14:51.50 | aleksanteri | hmm. that isn't installed yet |
14:51.57 | Jucato | that would be it |
14:52.05 | sandsmark | kdelibs #.3+1 = kdelibs4, iirc |
14:52.49 | aleksanteri | that does it, thank-o :) |
14:53.00 | aleksanteri | even though i'm left with the feeling i should have asked #debian heh |
14:53.20 | aleksanteri | for it was kinda offtopic but anyhow |
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14:53.40 | Jucato | well not at first :) |
14:53.45 | aleksanteri | heh yeah |
14:53.53 | Jucato | it only became offtopic when sandsmark came in... |
14:53.59 | Jucato | whistles innocently twiddling thumbs |
14:54.04 | aleksanteri | haha |
14:54.07 | sandsmark | heh :P |
14:54.22 | sandsmark | I am off-topic incarnated |
14:55.11 | Jucato | -d |
14:55.18 | pinotree | (oh well, i can provide a solution for that -- not really a problem) |
14:55.37 | sandsmark | =) |
14:55.47 | Jucato | :D |
14:55.51 | Jucato | goes back to his assignment |
14:55.53 | aleksanteri | if i think what you think then... haha |
14:55.56 | Half-Left | sandsmark: Your name is oftopic, instant fail :p |
14:56.10 | sandsmark | :P |
14:56.27 | aleksanteri | Half-Left, no it isn't |
14:56.37 | Jucato | hey! don't offend sandsmark... that's our job... |
14:56.38 | aleksanteri | (if you read that verbatim ;) ) |
14:56.41 | Jucato | ok stopping it now |
14:56.57 | Jucato | sorry pinotree... couldn't resist :) |
14:57.05 | Danmer | what about k3b for kde4? |
14:57.18 | Jucato | Danmer: in the process of being ported I believe |
14:57.19 | pinotree | not there yet |
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14:57.52 | Jucato | Danmer: K3b (along with amarok, konversation, and digikam) are extragear apps. that means they don't really follow the KDE release schedule... they have their own schedules |
14:57.56 | Jucato | same with koffice |
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14:58.38 | Jucato | btw, anyone else getting random X crashes/restarts when viewing some (random) website and kwin effects are enabled? nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 card, using 96.xx.xx legacy driver |
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15:05.03 | Danmer | hmm..i've added my camera in settings (canon ixus 70 - ptp mode), but no reaction when it is plugged in |
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15:11.25 | DanielW | there are camera settings in kde? |
15:11.50 | Danmer | yes |
15:11.59 | Danmer | on advanced tab |
15:12.31 | Danmer | well, nevermind, no digikam for 4 yet, i'd better use cardreader |
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15:12.45 | Jucato | Danmer: can't you use KDE 3? |
15:12.51 | Jucato | I mean KDE 3 apps? |
15:13.16 | Danmer | Jucato: they started together so i moved /usr/kde/3.5 away from $path :) |
15:13.31 | Jucato | hm.. ok.. |
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15:57.48 | asfak | i have just installed kde4.1b2 on ubuntu. how do i move icon in panel ? |
15:58.04 | jazka | you can't yet |
15:58.44 | zarvox | asfak: workaround is to remove and add them where you want them >_> |
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16:00.11 | TimS | I keep getting 'remote user closed the connection' does this mean someone has been using desktop connect to get onto my PC? |
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16:01.44 | DanielW | TimS: in irc client? |
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16:02.00 | TimS | DanielW: No, as a desktop notification |
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16:02.16 | TimS | It is comming from Desktop Connect |
16:02.17 | asfak | zarvox, adding plasmoid moves it to just right side only. BTW there is such option in opensuse 11 |
16:02.25 | DanielW | TimS: mhhh |
16:02.31 | DanielW | TimS: don't know |
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16:03.09 | DanielW | asfak: you can drag the plasmoids from the add widget dialog to every place on the panel you like |
16:03.35 | DanielW | (i am saying that about 5 times a day when i am here) . that should be really more obvious... |
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16:05.31 | Kamus_H_Zwisch | hello |
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16:06.27 | zarvox | Hello. |
16:06.52 | Kamus_H_Zwisch | I used gnome all my life, but it resolved to crash and I migrate to kde |
16:06.59 | Kamus_H_Zwisch | but I have a question |
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16:07.10 | Kamus_H_Zwisch | how do I add apps to my session startup? |
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16:07.47 | zarvox | Kamus_H_Zwisch: easiest way is to add a symlink to the binary in ~/.kde/Autostart/ |
16:07.55 | zarvox | assuming KDE3 |
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16:08.27 | Kamus_H_Zwisch | zarvox: thank you :) |
16:08.34 | Pliskin | if you use KDE4, you can do that with SystemSettings I think |
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16:09.02 | zarvox | ah, thanks. I wondered if there was a "right way" to do that in KDE4 |
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16:10.43 | Pliskin | but, if you just want to start your favorite apps automatically, you just have to let them open when you shut down |
16:10.52 | Pliskin | (sorry for my english) |
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16:11.59 | zarvox | Yay for automatic session management! |
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16:25.09 | Vi5in | hey everyone |
16:25.14 | Vi5in | I'm running KDE on PC-BSD |
16:25.18 | Vi5in | (so basically on freebsd) |
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16:25.38 | Vi5in | I'm trying to run things like mplayer or glmatrix on the rootwindow (using -rootwindow and -root on the latter) |
16:26.01 | Vi5in | I've been trying to use the "use this program to draw the desktop" (or whatever) in the advanced options for the desktop settings |
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16:26.28 | Vi5in | when I don't use the -root switch, it just pops up (as it should) but when I use -root, it doesn't do anything. I'm assuming that something is preventing it from using hte root window |
16:26.43 | Vi5in | is there any way I can completely disable the wallpaper? so something else can run in its palce? |
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16:29.38 | wstephenson | Vi5in: kde3? |
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16:37.09 | EagleScreen | hello |
16:37.55 | EagleScreen | what is the way for install a printer in KDE 4.0.83?? |
16:38.41 | jazka | using your distro's tools |
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16:38.50 | jazka | and kde4 will see it |
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16:40.12 | EagleScreen | is there any assistent in KDE4 for printers? |
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16:43.21 | jazka | EagleScreen: not that I know of |
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16:43.33 | Kenjiro | good afternoon |
16:43.43 | liber | wohooo. some serious netspliting coming :) |
16:44.46 | Kenjiro | I am having problems compiling kdebase on bluewhite64. |
16:45.10 | Kenjiro | till this morning I had pciutils-2.x and kdebase would complain about libpci (if I am not mistaken) |
16:45.31 | Kenjiro | then I read somewhere it was because pciutils was compiled staticaly. |
16:45.49 | Kenjiro | so I downloaded pciutils-3.0.0 and set it to compile as shared |
16:46.05 | Kenjiro | then I went to compile kdebase again and now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/d64086259 |
16:46.11 | Kenjiro | any tips? |
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16:48.20 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: have you pciutlils-dev? |
16:48.52 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: checking... |
16:49.36 | Vi5in | wstephenson: yes |
16:49.36 | Kenjiro | hmmmm nopes |
16:50.14 | Kenjiro | I only downloaded the source for pciutils-3.0.0 |
16:50.29 | wstephenson | Vi5in: kdesktop is the app drawing the background |
16:50.36 | wstephenson | you can even tell it to use a different app |
16:51.07 | Vi5in | wstephenson: Yes, I went into "Configure Desktop" and "Advanced Options" |
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16:51.18 | Kenjiro | I am trying to find where to get pciutils-dev |
16:51.28 | wstephenson | Vi5in: ok |
16:51.39 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: Well you dont really need it, if you have the source it's part of it |
16:51.55 | Half-Left | Your package manager should have it |
16:52.02 | wstephenson | Vi5in: that replaces the 'kdesktop' process normall used to draw the background. |
16:52.35 | Vi5in | ahh i think isee the problem |
16:52.49 | Vi5in | well never mind |
16:53.04 | Vi5in | i had to check "allow programs in desktop window" |
16:53.09 | Vi5in | under behavior |
16:53.17 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: I downloaded the source, compiled it and created the package. |
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16:53.43 | Kenjiro | What am I missing? |
16:53.50 | Kenjiro | any libs or headers? |
16:53.54 | Vi5in | but it refreshes every time. hmm whenever i do a window operation |
16:54.00 | Vi5in | not exactly what I want |
16:54.14 | Kenjiro | I read that "log" many times and still haven't spoted the answer *grin* |
16:54.33 | Kenjiro | (perhaps because I spent to much time on it trying to find the answer) |
16:54.38 | Vi5in | oh well! |
16:54.40 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: The source comes with them unless the source code is split up, not sure about how you build packages |
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16:55.19 | smurfslover | hi |
16:55.46 | smurfslover | is installing kde4 widgets from kde-look through the gui supposed to work? |
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16:57.07 | Half-Left | smurfslover: You mean the internet option? |
16:57.15 | smurfslover | yes |
16:57.31 | smurfslover | when i click install the guii crashes |
16:57.38 | Half-Left | Nope, it's broken as far as I can tell and really not supposed to be there yet |
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16:58.16 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: these are the files installed by my package --> http://pastebin.com/d6283b85 |
16:58.39 | smurfslover | Half-Left: ok so i don't have to blaim my packager :) |
16:59.02 | Half-Left | smurfslover: Nope :p |
16:59.05 | pinotree | Kenjiro: you need the shared library version (.so), NOT the static one (.a) |
16:59.12 | Half-Left | Kenjiro: Slackware, Arch? |
16:59.20 | pinotree | if that is all the package provide, then complain to the packager |
16:59.29 | smurfslover | but it's quite strange i have the option available |
16:59.30 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: Bleuwhite64, which is a "slackware version for 64bits" |
16:59.35 | Kenjiro | (non-official version) |
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16:59.41 | smurfslover | also the availabel widgets are being listed |
17:00.08 | Kenjiro | pinotree: the interesting is that I changed pciutils's Make file so to it compile as SHARED :( |
17:00.12 | Kenjiro | let me RECHECK that |
17:00.46 | Millzee | Hi, are there any good 3.5 to 4.0 migration guides out there? |
17:00.49 | Kenjiro | # Build libpci as a shared library (yes/no; or local for testing; requires GCC) |
17:00.50 | Kenjiro | SHARED=yes |
17:01.00 | Kenjiro | my oh my |
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17:01.48 | Kenjiro | *Makefile |
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17:17.34 | Half-Left | BOOM! |
17:17.34 | MinceR | DOOM! |
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17:22.58 | Kenjiro | long live the netsplit |
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17:31.12 | _Axel | Using dolphin and KDE 4.1 compiled from sources, when I click on a TAG (nepomuk) a see "FIXME: connect me to the dolphinmodel: tags/test" .... I have to compile other things? |
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17:31.58 | ambient | I wonder why they replaced konqueror with dolphin, I used it in kde 3.5 and it was very lacking in features and buggy |
17:32.17 | Ghost-R | how does one turn off the PC speaker in kde ? |
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17:33.38 | jfreak0126 | does anyone know how to enable the pdf thumbnails in kubuntu 8.04 kde4 beta 2 as displayed in the announcement http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.1-beta2/dolphin-tagging.png |
17:33.47 | jfreak0126 | ?? |
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17:36.40 | jfreak0126 | anyone?? |
17:36.51 | carlos | best aishiko have you ever read the book the devils of hiroshima |
17:36.55 | pinotree | be patient, please |
17:37.05 | pinotree | carlos: offtopic here |
17:37.08 | jfreak0126 | k |
17:37.28 | carlos | what is the topic |
17:38.00 | pinotree | KDE |
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17:39.29 | carlos | aikawa have you ever read the book tengu of graham masterton |
17:40.08 | pinotree | carlos: this stuff is not for this channel, sorry |
17:40.40 | carlos | kde 4 is great but grub not work property with vista in asus board |
17:41.22 | Ghost-R | how to turn of PC speaker in kde ? (like no sound while using BACKSPACE ) |
17:41.42 | carlos | ik use lilo but doesn't |
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17:42.57 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: ok, found the problem with pciutils: ME |
17:43.11 | Half-Left | :p |
17:43.14 | Kenjiro | I was making a mistaking when creating the package ahahahah dumb carap |
17:43.15 | Kenjiro | *crap |
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17:54.56 | Adiga0707 | Ïðèâòå |
17:55.03 | pinotree | english please |
17:55.05 | jazka | gibberish |
17:55.24 | cappy_ | pinotree: i think he/she said hello |
17:55.24 | cappy_ | ;p |
17:55.35 | Adiga0707 | Àë¸ |
17:55.43 | cappy_ | Adiga0707: russian ? |
17:55.43 | Nemes1s | hey I have a question. Is konq_iconview gone in kde 4? |
17:55.49 | Adiga0707 | Es |
17:55.50 | pinotree | Adiga0707: UTF-8 please |
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18:00.31 | Kenjiro | Half-Left: ok, kdebase is compiled and installed, going for kdebase-workspace now :) |
18:01.00 | Half-Left | :) |
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18:03.32 | linux_communist | Hi, I was wondering how I can fix my panel since all of my widgets including start app moved to the right |
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18:04.27 | Half-Left | version? |
18:04.55 | linux_communist | 4.1 |
18:04.56 | cappy_ | is away: Gone away for now. |
18:05.09 | Half-Left | beta 1, 2 or trunk? |
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18:05.17 | linux_communist | beta 1 |
18:05.48 | Half-Left | It's a bug fixed now, just resize you panel, it should come back |
18:06.19 | linux_communist | How would I do that? |
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18:06.33 | Half-Left | Resize the panel? |
18:06.38 | linux_communist | yes |
18:06.48 | Half-Left | Right click the panel, Panel Settings |
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18:07.29 | linux_communist | Which do I move? |
18:07.34 | Half-Left | You can make the panel, longer, higher, bigger |
18:07.40 | linux_communist | I move all the arrows and nothing happens, keeps staying on 1 side |
18:08.06 | Half-Left | You mean the icons on one side or the panel on the screen? |
18:08.14 | linux_communist | panel |
18:08.27 | linux_communist | before, I had my start kde on the left, and somehow it got moved at the end of the right |
18:08.42 | Half-Left | Hold the mouse down on the panel settings bar than comes up |
18:09.01 | Half-Left | Theres a settign to aline it middle |
18:09.25 | linux_communist | yes, they continue to stay on 1 side, can i move them somehow |
18:09.33 | linux_communist | can i send you a screenshot? |
18:09.39 | Half-Left | sure |
18:10.03 | linux_communist | hmm, i press print screen and nothing is happening, last time a thing asked where i wanted to save |
18:10.16 | Half-Left | kscreenshot |
18:10.30 | zarvox | ksnapshot |
18:10.35 | Half-Left | ksnapshot* |
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18:13.54 | linux_communist | one second, accessing irc on laptop |
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18:14.25 | tom__ | Hi |
18:14.30 | tom__ | Here is the snapshot: |
18:14.31 | tom__ | http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5739/snapshot1as4.png |
18:16.39 | Half-Left | ASk in opensuse it has extra features as I remember |
18:17.33 | linux_communist | is there any fix for this? |
18:17.48 | linux_communist | iv been asking suse |
18:17.57 | linux_communist | no one knows howto |
18:18.02 | Half-Left | Delete the panel add a new one and re add |
18:18.08 | linux_communist | is there a way i can reset the defaults? |
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18:18.34 | Half-Left | BETA, BETA |
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18:19.12 | tom__ | how do i add widgets to each other side? |
18:19.19 | tom__ | like some widhets on 1 site otehrs on the other |
18:19.38 | Half-Left | Add them to the exact postion |
18:20.00 | Half-Left | Dragg into the panel or use the add widget option |
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18:24.15 | dima_ | sdfsd |
18:24.29 | jazka | dima_: I agree |
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18:26.31 | linux_communist | is there anyway to get the default panel back? |
18:27.28 | tbscope | rm plasma_appletsrc, but that will default everything |
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18:28.47 | linux_communist | what do you mean default everything? |
18:29.23 | tbscope | if you've placed widgets on your desktop, they will be gone |
18:29.41 | linux_communist | it says plasma_appletsrc : No such file or directory |
18:29.56 | tbscope | in ~/.kde4/share/config |
18:30.09 | linux_communist | and then when i restart i get the default panel back? |
18:30.09 | tbscope | or where ever your $KDEHOME points to |
18:31.22 | Half-Left | Anyone blaming Qt4 for the slowness better read this http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=819 |
18:31.37 | DanielW | linux_communist: yes panel and desktop will be default again. just quit plasma, rm that file and restart plasma |
18:31.46 | Nemes1s | so has anyone ran konq 4? |
18:32.07 | DanielW | Nemes1s: sure i believe every kde 4 has done that |
18:32.11 | Half-Left | I use Konqueror all the time |
18:32.18 | Kenjiro | looks like it is not a good idea to compile the kde modules using multiple jobs, right? |
18:32.40 | Nemes1s | DanielW: okay so what happened to konq_iconview? |
18:32.52 | DanielW | Kenjiro: why do you want to do that ? |
18:33.04 | DanielW | Nemes1s: uh for what is konq_iconview used? |
18:33.14 | tbscope | Kenjiro: my experience is that it sometimes works and sometimes not |
18:33.23 | Kenjiro | tbscope: I just found that out *LOL* |
18:33.36 | linux_communist | tbscope: im in kde4/share.config and there is no plasma_appletsrc |
18:33.40 | Kenjiro | I had compiled kdepimlibs with 'make -j6' |
18:33.54 | linux_communist | share/config* |
18:34.03 | linux_communist | there is plasmarc |
18:34.03 | tbscope | I always try first with make -j2, if that fails, i just use make |
18:34.09 | DanielW | linux_communist: it is in your $KDEHOME/share/conig |
18:34.18 | linux_communist | how do i find $KDEHOME |
18:34.18 | Kenjiro | then... it finished the compilation, created my package and installed. But the includes were not in the package (found out when compiling kdeutils) |
18:34.25 | linux_communist | im in /etc/kde4/ |
18:34.30 | Kenjiro | so now I compiled without '-j6' and everything is fine ;) |
18:34.30 | Nemes1s | DanielW: configure->file associations->inode/directory->embedding tab. |
18:34.31 | DanielW | linux_communist: just write $KDEHOME? |
18:34.45 | DanielW | ok but what should it do? |
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18:35.14 | DanielW | linux_communist: in konsole you can write cd $KDEHOME/share/config |
18:35.20 | Nemes1s | DanielW: it allows you to browse your local filesystem. |
18:35.34 | DanielW | or if you want to find out what $KDEHOME is you can enter printenv KDEHOME |
18:35.53 | linux_communist | bash: cd: /share/config: no such file or directory |
18:36.01 | pacman87 | how do i tell kdepimlibs where boost is? |
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18:36.08 | Nemes1s | at the moment without specifying a component I can't browse local directories with Konqueror 4. |
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18:36.11 | DanielW | linux_communist: did you enter $KDEHOME? |
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18:36.29 | linux_communist | i cd: cd $KDEHOME/share/config |
18:36.50 | DanielW | linux_communist: so $KDEHOME is not set? mhh |
18:37.19 | DanielW | well it will be ~/.kde4 or ~/.kde in most cases |
18:37.21 | Nemes1s | DanielW: okay how about this were you able to browse your local directories with konqueror 4? If yes can you tell me your settings in inode/directory please? |
18:37.46 | linux_communist | i guess no :( |
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18:37.53 | linux_communist | how else can i get defaults back |
18:38.10 | DanielW | Nemes1s: it is dolphinpart |
18:38.29 | pacman87 | http://pastebin.com/m37f6e20e |
18:38.36 | DanielW | Nemes1s: it is default and works just fine. just enter any directory you want in the address bar. like /home/ |
18:38.51 | Nemes1s | DanielW: okay thank you. But I really missed the old tree view. |
18:39.20 | DanielW | Nemes1s: i read somehwere about a new treeview in dolphin? |
18:40.04 | linux_communist | How can I get $KDEHOME/share/config if I don't have it to reset plasma defaults |
18:40.07 | Nemes1s | cool. I just wanted to make sure that I've installed all the parts correctly. |
18:40.08 | DanielW | linux_communist: well somewhere kde must store your settings. how did you try to find your ~/.kde4 ? it is hidden (because of the starting .) |
18:40.34 | Nemes1s | it turns out that dolphinpart will be the default file viewer in konqueror 4. |
18:40.56 | linux_communist | DanielW: It worked |
18:41.03 | DanielW | linux_communist: what? |
18:41.05 | linux_communist | I had to ~/.kde4/ |
18:41.16 | linux_communist | now im in ~/.kde4/shared/config |
18:41.23 | linux_communist | what do i delete in terminal |
18:41.32 | linux_communist | rm plasma_appletrc |
18:41.33 | linux_communist | ? |
18:41.38 | tbscope | yes |
18:41.45 | linux_communist | rm plasma_appletsrc |
18:41.47 | DanielW | rm plasma* should work (will delete both plasma files) |
18:41.56 | linux_communist | do i want to delete both? |
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18:42.40 | DanielW | but you can also do that from dolphin (just select "show hidden files" in view menu. then it will show your .kde4 in your home folder) |
18:43.14 | DanielW | linux_communist: well i always delete both when i want to reset plasma. but you have to stop plasma before you can delete that file |
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18:43.55 | linux_communist | do i delete plasmarc? |
18:44.09 | tbscope | ahh yes: first run "kquitapp plasma", then "rm ./plasma_appletsrc" and then "plasma" |
18:44.18 | linux_communist | i deleted plasma |
18:44.22 | linux_communist | in dolphin |
18:44.29 | linux_communist | without running kquitapp plasma |
18:44.52 | linux_communist | how do i restart plasma now |
18:44.57 | tbscope | that works but the file will be saved again, with your current panel, thus not resetting it. You must first quit plasma |
18:45.06 | tbscope | you do that with the command: kquitapp plasma |
18:45.09 | tbscope | in konsole for example |
18:45.56 | linux_communist | how do i restart plasma now |
18:46.28 | tbscope | did you remove the plasma_appletsrc file (after using the kquitapp plasma command) ? |
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18:46.38 | linux_communist | ya |
18:46.40 | tbscope | if so, just type the following command: plasma |
18:47.04 | linux_communist | i get 2 arguments missing |
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18:47.33 | djouallah | GoGermany, go turky go go go |
18:47.45 | RUMMY | where I can find themes for KDE4, not on kde-look.org |
18:47.47 | GoGermany | no way |
18:48.15 | boom1992 | Germany!! |
18:48.17 | linux_communist | tbscope: major opcode: 18 |
18:48.18 | boom1992 | wohoooo |
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18:48.28 | djouallah | RUMMY, kdeplasmoid |
18:48.39 | linux_communist | X error: badwindow invalid parameter (3) |
18:48.46 | tbscope | linux_communist: ignore the debug output |
18:48.54 | tbscope | it's for developers fixing problems |
18:49.04 | tbscope | as long as plasma starts it's ok |
18:49.12 | tbscope | did the panel go back to its default ? |
18:49.20 | linux_communist | ah |
18:49.22 | linux_communist | i couldnt delete it |
18:49.23 | linux_communist | lol |
18:49.24 | linux_communist | it wasnt _ |
18:49.26 | linux_communist | it was - |
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18:49.44 | tbscope | ohh, yeah that might be possible. Don't know each file name by head :) |
18:49.59 | linux_communist | YAY |
18:50.32 | linux_communist | thanks so much guys :) |
18:51.04 | tbscope | I guess it would be easier if there was a default button in the panel settings |
18:51.11 | linux_communist | yeah |
18:51.16 | linux_communist | can i go to devel room and request :D? |
18:51.33 | tbscope | add a wish to bugs.kde.org (if it's not already there) |
18:51.37 | linux_communist | btw: why is there a box around my widgets |
18:51.39 | linux_communist | or something |
18:51.45 | linux_communist | desktop qidgets |
18:51.55 | tbscope | The box depends on the used theme |
18:52.10 | tbscope | you can make a theme that doesn't show such large borders |
18:53.06 | DanielW | linux_communist: do you mean that plasma widget borders to move, resize and rotate them? |
18:55.45 | linux_communist | it holds my desktop widgets together |
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18:56.48 | linux_communist | can you guys help me install this theme? i tried and i couldnt get it to work on 4.1 |
18:56.49 | linux_communist | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=77150 |
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18:57.12 | progger1986 | will the bug, that konquerer wont load webpages ever been fixed? |
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18:58.29 | Danmer | progger1986: you are the progger, fix it! |
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18:58.36 | DanielW | linux_communist: you can just install it from the desktop settings dialog. just select get new themes |
18:58.39 | progger1986 | lol |
18:58.52 | DanielW | progger1986: what bug? the one related to fritzbox routers? |
18:59.05 | progger1986 | to NAT routers at all |
18:59.24 | DanielW | ? |
18:59.25 | progger1986 | someone advised me to use an othe dns server: this did not help |
18:59.31 | zarvox | I assure you that it works behind my NAT router here :P |
18:59.41 | DanielW | there is no problem with nat routers in general |
18:59.56 | zarvox | link to bug report? |
19:00.24 | progger1986 | mom |
19:00.30 | linux_communist | I click add new theme, how do i browse to where i saved it |
19:01.16 | progger1986 | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157327 |
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19:02.51 | DanielW | progger1986: i believe it is the dns problem. do you use fritzbox or telekom speedport router? |
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19:03.04 | progger1986 | none of them |
19:03.14 | zarvox | what do you have? |
19:03.20 | progger1986 | a netgear router |
19:03.25 | DanielW | linux_communist: you do not need to save it |
19:03.51 | progger1986 | if it is a dns problem: why dows other browsers (including konqueror3) doen not habe such problems? |
19:03.54 | DanielW | linux_communist: do you use 4.1? |
19:04.12 | DanielW | progger1986: as kde4 is doing things a little different |
19:04.53 | progger1986 | i dont understand what can be so different, that koneuror has problems with a dns server |
19:04.59 | DanielW | progger1986: it does two querys very fast somehow nearly at the same time against the routers dns server. some routers (most of them from fritzbox/telekom speeport) are a little buggy handling that |
19:05.34 | progger1986 | what is the advantage of tha behavoir? |
19:05.38 | DanielW | they mix up the responses (the responses go each to the exact different port) |
19:05.43 | DanielW | there is no advantage |
19:06.11 | progger1986 | why can't you make a single request? |
19:07.45 | DanielW | i am not konqueror or a konqueror dev. the thing is quite complex. has to do with the iner working of kdelibs, kio and qt. there are plans to do dns caching in kded or somewhere else. there is already a patch for that on the core-devel ml |
19:07.55 | DanielW | but that will not make it into kde before 4.2 i think |
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19:09.26 | progger1986 | will this dns-cahing stuff be able to solve my problem with konqueror? |
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19:10.48 | progger1986 | am i going rihht: that the double-request is at monent useless? |
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19:10.55 | harmental | hey guys...maybe someone can help..i have realized that my kde applications dont have soud...for instance when a mail arrives kontact doesnt play the notification sound, the login in kde show no sound whatsoever, the same thing with kopete....other than that sound works great on amarak, real player or kaffeine....any ideas? |
19:11.18 | DanielW | progger1986: i hope so. i got myself an other router. another solution is to enter some other public dns server in your /etc/resolv.conf |
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19:12.03 | DanielW | progger1986: and yes this dns thing is useless. konqueror was always doing a lot more dns request than other browser. that makes some things a little slower to. so yeah that dns caching would be nice |
19:13.56 | progger1986 | so i have to wait for 4.2 until konqueror is useable for me again |
19:13.58 | progger1986 | :( |
19:15.21 | progger1986 | konqueror was my favourit-browser until i saw the 4.0/4.1 |
19:16.14 | progger1986 | but thanks for that info |
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19:59.18 | tampakrap | is there a websvn page or something for kde4 svn? |
19:59.40 | alediaferia | tampakrap: websvn.kde.org ? |
20:00.00 | tampakrap | thank you! |
20:00.07 | alediaferia | u r welcome =) |
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20:08.49 | sigma_12 | why is the loading animation in konq so big in beta 2? |
20:08.56 | Danmer | % svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/multimedia/ |
20:08.56 | Danmer | svn: No such revision 824446 |
20:08.57 | Danmer | wtf? |
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20:09.58 | kde_pepo | linux_communist, Azenis is a KDE 3 theme, not for KDE 4. |
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20:17.38 | linux_communist | Hey guys, ever had the problem after splash screen you get a black screen with the mouse only |
20:18.14 | flea | linux_communist: when i run twm yes |
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20:19.44 | sigma_12 | on beta 1 yes |
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20:21.53 | linux_communist | whats twm? |
20:21.56 | linux_communist | im on 4.1 |
20:22.18 | PhilRod | twm is a very basic window manager |
20:22.23 | linux_communist | oh |
20:22.40 | PhilRod | it's (almost?) always installed with X, so it provides a fallback if your main WM isn't working |
20:23.11 | djouallah | linux_communist, it is a way to access your desktop when something wrong goes with kde |
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20:27.05 | linux_communist | Well, I can't access deskto |
20:27.09 | linux_communist | I think its plasma |
20:27.10 | linux_communist | or something |
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20:27.14 | linux_communist | Since I can see my mouse |
20:27.32 | linux_communist | Anyway to debug and check why screen isnt turning on?> |
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20:32.13 | downhillgames | linux_communist, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
20:32.49 | downhillgames | or if you mean KDE, then I don't know... |
20:33.09 | linux_communist | downhillgames, what will that do? |
20:33.12 | linux_communist | should I vim to it? |
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20:33.21 | linux_communist | i can only access init 3 |
20:34.04 | downhillgames | linux_communist, vim or whatever other text editor, yes |
20:34.57 | tbscope | kde debug messages might also be in ~/.XSessionerrors (or something like that) |
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20:36.15 | linux_communist | downhill games, im in it |
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20:37.26 | linux_communist | is it possible i get black screen from mouse? |
20:37.36 | linux_communist | because i was messing around with the xorg.conf file |
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20:39.04 | pacman87 | kdepimlibs can't find boost: http://pastebin.com/m37f6e20e |
20:39.15 | nightrow | i had an idea i would like to share about the new start-up menu in kde4 : why isn't the "favorite" panel automatically computed depending on sofware i used the most (which would be better than now) ? |
20:40.38 | liber | nightrow: because then programs that are used roughly as much change place. I actually like it as it is now :) |
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20:40.47 | liber | Although I see what you mean |
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20:42.09 | nightrow | well it could be alphabetically sorted but still show only the said 8 most ofently used software ... |
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20:48.52 | FiNeX | hi |
20:49.39 | djouallah | yeah the bug machine |
20:49.45 | liber | hello there |
20:51.41 | zipper | I have 2 soundcards in my pc. One onboard, and an audigy2. I have a keyboard with volume control keys (logitech ultraX) and they work perfect, the OSD volume thing shows up, but there is no actual change in volume. I had to use asoundconf to set my audigy as default instead of the onboard card. How do i make the volume keys work with this setup? There must be somewhere you can specify what soundcard the keys are connected to....? |
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20:53.32 | DanielW | zipper: maybe you can just disable the second soundcard? |
20:54.09 | zerbp | \join plasma |
20:54.16 | zipper | Hmm, maybe.... But i'd prefer if they were both enabled |
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20:54.39 | zipper | using one for headphones, one for my stereo |
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20:55.25 | x86 | I've got kind of a unique setup... my users are to be totally restricted except for opening konqueror to look at file folders full of PDF's and what not |
20:55.33 | x86 | no web browsing, nothing else... |
20:55.49 | x86 | So I'm wanting to take away Control Center access... what's the best way to do this? |
20:56.47 | tbscope | kiosk I think? |
20:57.13 | djouallah | how to show tree view mode in dolphin ? |
20:57.37 | zipper | DanielW, guess you dont know a way for having both cards enabled with the keys working then? =/ |
20:57.53 | DanielW | zipper: sorry, don't know |
20:57.57 | zipper | i know its possible with the gnome-volume-config package, but i really dont feel like installing 33 new packages for this |
20:58.20 | zipper | okay |
20:58.24 | DanielW | x86: kiosk? |
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20:58.35 | pacman87 | anyone have a suggestion for this: http://pastebin.com/m37f6e20e |
20:59.23 | zipper | looks like you dont have boost? |
21:00.23 | boom1992 | pacman87: install the boost-dev package... |
21:01.26 | pacman87 | yeah, i tried that |
21:01.34 | pacman87 | oh, boost-dev |
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21:02.06 | linux_communist | <PROTECTED> |
21:02.36 | linux_communist | computer generated xorg file |
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21:03.34 | djouallah | eh i can't find how to show view tree in dolphin ? |
21:04.20 | google_ | #gentoo |
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21:06.28 | x86 | DanielW: essentially |
21:06.34 | x86 | DanielW: XDMCP thin clients ;) |
21:06.43 | alediaferia | djouallah: set details view and then from settings->configure dolphin->view modes->details check "Expandible folders".. is this what you want? |
21:07.10 | x86 | DanielW: HP Neoware c50's... they run their own linux OS, which only gets it to a point where it can connect to an XDMCP server.... |
21:07.26 | x86 | or is "kiosk" some KDE app? |
21:07.49 | DanielW | x86: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiosk |
21:07.58 | x86 | I know what a Kiosk is |
21:08.06 | DanielW | eh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiosk_(KDE) |
21:08.12 | x86 | cool |
21:08.19 | x86 | thanks :) |
21:08.39 | DanielW | http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/ |
21:08.51 | x86 | nifty! |
21:08.56 | x86 | how to install it on Debian? |
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21:09.20 | x86 | hah |
21:09.20 | DanielW | x86: well if there are no packages for it (it is in extragear?) you have to compile it on your own |
21:09.24 | x86 | apt-get install kiosktool |
21:09.27 | x86 | woot woot :) |
21:09.34 | djouallah | alediaferia, heheh thanks, i forget to set make this view default for all folder |
21:09.47 | alediaferia | djouallah: np ;) |
21:09.53 | x86 | DanielW: thanks a lot man this is really helpful :) |
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21:13.25 | Danmer | amarok2...hehe...like it is beaten by big hammer :) |
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21:16.23 | zizzfizzix | sorry for offtopic, but could someone tell me what the hell does it mean?: "I scratch my itches" from interview: http://behindkde.org/people/jpwhiting/ |
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21:17.36 | zizzfizzix | I'm translating and that's quite important.. |
21:18.09 | pacman87 | zizzfizzix: it means he works on fixing things that he thinks need fixing |
21:18.29 | pacman87 | the 'itch' means it bothers you |
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21:18.35 | pacman87 | and scratching it makes it better |
21:18.36 | zizzfizzix | ohh |
21:18.42 | zizzfizzix | great thanks! :) |
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21:29.54 | zipper | I have a keyboard with volume keys. When i press them, the volume OSD-thingie shows up, but i have 2 soundcards and apparently it changes the volume for the wrong soundcard. How can i make those key affect all soundcards, or maybe just the right one? |
21:31.46 | mxttie | zipper: rightclick on kmixer and select the right master channel? |
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21:33.59 | zipper | mxttie, i have the right master channel. It is not affected at all by pressing the volume keys (but moving the slider with the mouse works like it should) |
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21:36.05 | zipper | mxttie, i'm thinking : The keys are simply not using asoundconf's set-default-card nor kmix's master channel |
21:36.29 | Schuenemann | I just turned on my computer and it seems KDE is using some sort of zoom and I can't see the whole screen. The screen "pans" whenever the mouse touches the border. How do I disable this annoying feature? |
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21:39.45 | x86 | hmm ok |
21:39.51 | cappy_ | How to make keymap changing when i click Alt+shift |
21:39.52 | cappy_ | :? |
21:40.04 | x86 | kioskadmin didn't allow me to lock user's out of things in the kicker menu, such as Settings and System |
21:40.12 | x86 | System Menu rather |
21:40.30 | x86 | also, it put all the apps back in the menu that I explicitly removed |
21:40.42 | x86 | and now I can't get back into it because I locked myself out ;) |
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21:41.32 | DanielW | x86: :-( |
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21:42.43 | cappy_ | any1 knows ? |
21:43.51 | x86 | DanielW: it did a damn good job locking my normal user account out though, besides that :) |
21:44.10 | x86 | I can't change the background, can't change the view settings in konqueror, etc, etc... |
21:44.16 | x86 | (which was desired) |
21:44.31 | DanielW | so it is not complete useless? |
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21:45.20 | x86 | well it is now, since I can't get back into it ;) |
21:45.32 | x86 | (i disabled Run Command, Konsole, etc) |
21:46.05 | x86 | if only I could get it to let me take out System Menu and Settings from the kicker menu, it'd be perfect |
21:46.17 | x86 | what file is that located in? |
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21:47.48 | x86 | what file are the menu items configured with? |
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21:49.38 | ircMonkey | I did transfer the content of audio cd on my hard drive (mp3 encoding); every thing had been done automaticaly. I don't remember what application I used to do it. I still have the media file but I did a reinstall of the system. Is there a way I can find what application I used? |
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21:52.07 | ircMonkey | CDDB Retrieval? |
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22:00.33 | pedro | ... |
22:00.58 | ircMonkey | all right cdaudiocreator. and add myself to cdrom group |
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22:01.30 | zipper | I have a keyboard with volume keys (logitech ultraX). When i press them, the volume OSD-thingie shows up, but i have 2 soundcards and apparently it changes the volume for the wrong soundcard. How can i make those key affect all soundcards, or maybe just the right one? |
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22:23.22 | Half-Left | yo |
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22:25.43 | cappy_ | yo ;p |
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22:29.07 | Tonren | How do I make xterm-256color my default $TERM value in Konsole? |
22:29.09 | cappy_ | i wanna get out of there ;p i want intel :) |
22:29.26 | cappy_ | and i already have nvidia ;p |
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22:29.39 | Tonren | I tried putting XTerm.termName: xterm-256color in my .Xdefaults and running xrdb -merge, but it didn't work. |
22:31.58 | Tonren | Anyone...? |
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22:39.25 | agnitio | I don't want to step on anyones toes here, but I read somewere about a QtWebKit-based Kpart for konqueror as an alternative to KHTML, will this appear in 4.1? |
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22:40.18 | Half-Left | agnitio: It's already in the betas |
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22:41.24 | Jucato | it's not part of core KDE (like extragear), so no, there's not assurance that it will follow KDE releases |
22:41.29 | agnitio | Half-Left: oh, because I was checking in the kde4daily virtual machine, but couldn't find it, how to activate it? |
22:42.19 | DanielW | agnitio: it is in playground. |
22:42.41 | agnitio | ah, so it won't be in officially for 4.1 at least.. |
22:43.06 | Half-Left | compiled it bit forgot it's not officially part |
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22:43.11 | DanielW | agnitio: so nothing for the average user. more for devs to play around with it. it is missing a lot of features. if you want a qt webkit based browser there are two of them (the qt demo browser and that browser forked of that with added featurs, forgot its name) |
22:43.13 | Jucato | (it won't be in "officially" for any release..) |
22:43.16 | Half-Left | but* |
22:43.33 | agnitio | DanielW: I don't really need one, I was mostly curious |
22:43.36 | Jucato | (unless it's moved to a a core module) |
22:43.45 | agnitio | thanks for all the answers |
22:43.49 | DanielW | Jucato: officially... i think that if it is good enough can move to extragear or kdewebdev? |
22:44.03 | Half-Left | webkitkde |
22:44.29 | DanielW | there is a gsoc project about webkit in konqueror? |
22:44.31 | Jucato | DanielW: "core" module... which extragear isn't part of. kdewebdev... dunno |
22:44.47 | Jucato | (I mean, dunno if it will be moved there, but yes, it's a core module) |
22:45.27 | Half-Left | just noticed the webkit option is not their in konqueror, Oops :p |
22:46.26 | DanielW | Half-Left: it is there if you install that webkit kde konqueror thing from playground |
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22:46.46 | Half-Left | agnitio: Sorry about that, I forgot, sometimes when you compile you forget about extra features |
22:46.59 | hays | what is webkit and what does it have to do with konqueror and what is the controversy |
22:47.02 | DanielW | Jucato: and ok extragear is not part of the core modules in the regular release cycle. but still i see extragear as part of kde in general and as offical |
22:47.18 | hays | my understanding is its some javascript implementation |
22:47.48 | DanielW | hays: webkit is an open source html rendeirng engine which apple forked from khtml (the kde rendering engine still used in konqueror) |
22:48.02 | Half-Left | DanielW: yer I have webkitkde and compiled it, kdebase was moaning about it for some reason |
22:48.09 | hays | so webkit is apple's thing |
22:48.12 | agnitio | Half-Left: no problem, I'm familiar with the situation :) |
22:48.15 | hays | and khtml is kde's thing |
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22:48.25 | Jucato | DanielW: so do I. which is why I specifically specified and delimited it to "core" KDE modules which, by nature, follow KDE release cycles |
22:48.45 | DanielW | hays: apple is using it in safari and on the iphone, nokia is using it on all new not cheap phones |
22:48.50 | hays | one thing keeping me from using Konq, sadly, is that it still has issues with gmail |
22:49.24 | Heiki | or is it that gmail has issues with konqueror |
22:49.24 | agnitio | hays: I agree, but I've resorted to using gmail through imap in kmail, and moving fully to konq |
22:49.31 | hays | Heiki: heh, yes probably |
22:49.41 | DanielW | hays: well apple took the khtml source changed it and made webkit out of it. but as khtml was lgpl webkit is lgpl now to and it is developed in public now. and it seems to attract more developers than khtml. so webkit seems to going ahead of khtml |
22:49.47 | Jucato | hays: even when you set browser identification to Firefox for gmail? |
22:50.03 | hays | Jucato: I've not tried it super-recently |
22:50.20 | DanielW | hays: it works quite well with gmail, but google do not believe that. change the identification and and it works more or less though not perfect |
22:51.04 | agnitio | Jucato: in my experience it works most of the time, but not reliably enough, better to use simple view... |
22:51.10 | agnitio | that last bit was directed to hays though |
22:51.27 | Jucato | yeah, because I use kmail :) |
22:51.42 | Half-Left | lol |
22:52.09 | Half-Left | contact rocks in 4.1 now |
22:52.16 | Half-Left | Kontact* |
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23:04.08 | friedrich| | network gaming stuff doesn't really work, does it? kbattleship for example - I can connect, place ships, but never a "ready" happens. |
23:04.55 | Half-Left | Anyone tell what time it is? http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/25/f_Timem_2b7dd6f.png |
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23:07.34 | rascal999 | omfg I've got debian kde installed and every one minute it blanks monitor. Its not the screensaver, thats at 5 minutes and the only other thing it could be is an OffTime I've specified but removed from Xorg.conf, any ideas?! |
23:09.49 | Jucato | Half-Left: High School Musical time |
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23:10.35 | Half-Left | Jucato: Never seen it :p |
23:10.52 | Jucato | there's a song there "What Time Is It" |
23:11.05 | Jucato | anyway |
23:11.19 | Half-Left | :) |
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23:21.57 | DanielW | Half-Left: kde4 with some plasmoids from kde-looks.org and custom theme and wallpaper |
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23:23.03 | Half-Left | Fooled yer, It's GNOME :p |
23:23.37 | DanielW | did they fork kde4? |
23:23.41 | Half-Left | No plasmoids from kde-look |
23:24.04 | DanielW | i think the plasmoid in the buttom is from kde-looks |
23:24.15 | DanielW | it is the normal panel? |
23:24.19 | Half-Left | yep |
23:24.27 | Half-Left | Nothing is custom |
23:24.32 | DanielW | oh it looks like some of that plasmoids |
23:24.51 | Half-Left | yer from kdeplasmoids trunk |
23:24.57 | DanielW | but great that shows how flexible kde4 with plasma already is |
23:25.21 | Half-Left | It's very nice, very fast as well |
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23:26.09 | aib | why are the Encapsulated PostScript files that KSnapshot produces in black and white? |
23:26.24 | DanielW | Half-Left: i know. i am using trunk for months now |
23:26.43 | DanielW | btw, does someone know why ark doesn't work for me? |
23:27.04 | DanielW | i select a zip or tar archive. ark gets started but it is showing nothing |
23:27.05 | Half-Left | DanielW: Yer it dont extract |
23:27.45 | Half-Left | Needs a bug report I think |
23:27.46 | DanielW | it should work. i read about a blog about it and in the coments there were people using it |
23:28.22 | Half-Left | Should be a option in Dolphin to extract as well |
23:29.33 | aib | or, how can I take a screenshot in EPS format that is in color? |
23:30.43 | kde_pepo | EPS for screenshot? :) Sounds like you need Krita to convert. |
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23:31.18 | kde_pepo | or try GIMP, a gnomie app. |
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23:34.54 | DanielW | isn'T eps vector graphics? |
23:34.59 | GraveDigger | it is |
23:35.12 | GraveDigger | developed by adobe for portability |
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23:35.24 | GraveDigger | eps == embedded post script *iirc* |
23:35.29 | kde_pepo | EPS can also encapsulate raster images (like PS) |
23:36.00 | Half-Left | Where did the format freaks come from? |
23:36.04 | kde_pepo | alb, I just tryied KolourPaint from KDE 4.1 trunk, it saves color EPS fine. |
23:36.17 | GraveDigger | oh damnit |
23:36.22 | GraveDigger | "encapsulated" that was |
23:36.25 | GraveDigger | not "embedded" |
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23:38.22 | kde_pepo | sorry, I meant aib :) damn small fonts |
23:38.53 | aib | cool thanks for the tip |
23:39.54 | GraveDigger | ~karma kde_pepo +1 |
23:39.54 | apt | kde_pepo +1 has neutral karma |
23:40.05 | GraveDigger | ah damn, not in this channel :X |
23:40.25 | kde_pepo | wait, I need to change nick :) |
23:40.38 | kdepepo | okey |
23:40.41 | kdepepo | better |
23:40.52 | GraveDigger | hehe |
23:40.54 | GraveDigger | :> |
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