IRC log for #kde on 20080625

00:01.14*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100)
00:01.21*** join/#kde Pullarotta^ (n=pullis@dsl-lmammlgw1-fe70fa00-201.dhcp.inet.fi)
00:02.18*** join/#kde dwins (n=david@ool-4572b1d7.dyn.optonline.net)
00:03.16*** join/#kde frojnd (i=wildone@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de)
00:03.18frojndhello tehre
00:03.25frojndI have one newbie q.
00:03.34frojndIs kde 4.1 less stable than 4.0 ?
00:04.20*** join/#kde Frederico (n=fred@20158111214.user.veloxzone.com.br)
00:04.35*** part/#kde Frederico (n=fred@20158111214.user.veloxzone.com.br)
00:06.04*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=half-Lef@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
00:06.40HappySmileManfrojnd: It's less stable, but it's not unstable
00:06.54*** join/#kde Ardarandir (n=JMW@dslb-088-067-113-196.pools.arcor-ip.net)
00:11.36*** join/#kde cadoo (n=ccadieux@ylknnt171-146.theedge.ca)
00:11.47*** join/#kde ELITE_x (n=elite@dsl540014EB.pool.t-online.hu)
00:14.28*** join/#kde jcolby (n=jcolby@d-65-175-241-33.cpe.metrocast.net)
00:18.10*** join/#kde cheko (n=quassel@p3EE27C18.dip.t-dialin.net)
00:20.20KenjiroHappySmileMan: less stable but with more functionality?
00:20.33HappySmileManYeha basically
00:20.44*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@216.48.163.26)
00:20.47*** join/#kde polly_morf (n=limpan@m83-188-196-31.cust.tele2.se)
00:21.58Kenjirothat's good :)
00:28.19*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org)
00:31.38*** join/#kde jordoex (n=JordanK@d154-20-33-59.bchsia.telus.net)
00:38.34*** join/#kde apt (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt)
00:38.34*** topic/#kde is KDE 4.1 beta 2 is out! See www.kde.org | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/ | Help writing KDE docs: #kde-docs | Bug Squashers in #kde-bugs | Don't flood the channel, use http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | Offtopic in #kde-chat | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde | http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ
00:38.36*** join/#kde g2g591 (n=kyle@unaffiliated/g2g591)
00:39.50*** join/#kde brldn (n=brlnd@dslb-088-076-041-214.pools.arcor-ip.net)
00:42.55*** join/#kde xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
00:44.53*** join/#kde Drantin (n=drantin@pdpc/supporter/active/Drantin)
00:47.44*** join/#kde javashin (n=javashin@tdev213-163.codetel.net.do)
00:48.15*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org)
00:50.27*** join/#kde fungos (n=fungos@189.26.54.202.adsl.gvt.net.br)
00:50.56fungosany kde app to see ANSI files?
00:53.49*** join/#kde g2g591 (n=kyle@unaffiliated/g2g591)
01:02.06*** join/#kde _Infinity_ (n=infinity@78-0-156-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr)
01:02.30*** join/#kde Knightlust (n=dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust)
01:04.51*** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz)
01:05.23Nylelike in konquror file thumbail previes for all file types, but on
01:05.27Nyleis there a file gui browser that can recognize file types from the file itself rather than having ia db of known extentions?
01:05.30Nylelike konqueror
01:05.35Nyleor konq itself mabye
01:07.01fungoshm, Im looking for something like tetraview or tundra draw but KDE native
01:08.23*** join/#kde kuadrosx (n=kuadrosx@190.68.214.85)
01:16.29*** join/#kde GullyFoyle (n=jon@c-24-2-189-8.hsd1.ct.comcast.net)
01:18.59*** join/#kde ifricka (n=ifricka@72.51.71.254)
01:21.22*** join/#kde lonran (n=lonran@80.174.15.126.dyn.user.ono.com)
01:24.18*** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@jahogan.plus.com)
01:27.26*** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@jahogan.plus.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.26*** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.26*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.27*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.27*** join/#kde cadoo (n=ccadieux@ylknnt171-146.theedge.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.27*** join/#kde dwins (n=david@ool-4572b1d7.dyn.optonline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde bgmiki (n=miki@233-221.static.ikomline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde |igor_ (n=igor@79.125.249.165) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde miwi (n=miwi@duro.unixfreunde.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde _blam (n=blam@218.185.108.156) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde jeekl (n=crz@unaffiliated/jeekl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde lowks__ (n=lowks@219.94.52.86) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde magyar_ (n=magyar_@secondary.pssnet.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome)
01:27.28*** join/#kde thechef (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde blauzahl (n=ax4@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde FransE (n=fenglich@nat/trolltech/x-c610b2e977a0a88d) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde mark_alec (n=mark@gentoo/developer/mark-alec) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde david_ (n=david@s207-6-27-95.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde mx80 (n=mx80@cust116.177.113.38.dsl.g3telecom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde ded (n=dedmajor@83.102.210.52) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde djdarkman (n=djdarkma@79.119.210.106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde Nemes1s (i=35580@acmex.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde blauzahl-laptop (n=zahl@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde hedeo (n=hedeo@77.94.42.14.satgate.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde easytiger (n=gerrys@gw1.bfs1.wombatfs.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde [a]ton (i=aton@unaffiliated/aton)
01:27.28*** join/#kde pete (n=pete@unaffiliated/pete) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.28*** join/#kde mikb (n=mikb@c122-106-176-161.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde Vaxu (n=vaxaren@adsl-36-5.regionline.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde xenol (n=xenol@chello217023252151.chello.sk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde magyar (n=ondrish@76-10-176-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde Simkin (n=sdegabri@S010600104b6a224a.vf.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde Ramblurr (n=rmblr@amarok/developer/Ramblurr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde KingSofa (n=miller_t@64.74.112.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde grundleborg (n=grundleb@p15161269.pureserver.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde _al_ (n=al@vento.yok.utu.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde riot (n=wntrmut@krombacher-pils.oph.RWTH-Aachen.DE) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde arkanoid (n=arkanoid@exherbo/developer/arkanoid) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde Ditegen (n=ditegen@mafet.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde HaIrLeSsHoBo (n=flip@c-24-127-244-182.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde kennyz (n=kennyz@uralnet.org)
01:27.29*** join/#kde rohanpm (n=rohan@kde/developer/rohanpm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde EisNerd (n=eisnerd@ccc2.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde silverk (n=silverk@84-50-22-127-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:27.29*** join/#kde chakie (n=chakie@dsl-aur-fee3de00-172.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@jahogan.plus.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde cadoo (n=ccadieux@ylknnt171-146.theedge.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde dwins (n=david@ool-4572b1d7.dyn.optonline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde bgmiki (n=miki@233-221.static.ikomline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.36*** join/#kde |igor_ (n=igor@79.125.249.165) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde miwi (n=miwi@duro.unixfreunde.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde _blam (n=blam@218.185.108.156) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde jeekl (n=crz@unaffiliated/jeekl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde lowks__ (n=lowks@219.94.52.86) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde magyar_ (n=magyar_@secondary.pssnet.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome)
01:28.37*** join/#kde thechef (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde blauzahl (n=ax4@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde FransE (n=fenglich@nat/trolltech/x-c610b2e977a0a88d) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde mark_alec (n=mark@gentoo/developer/mark-alec) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde david_ (n=david@s207-6-27-95.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde mx80 (n=mx80@cust116.177.113.38.dsl.g3telecom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde ded (n=dedmajor@83.102.210.52) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde djdarkman (n=djdarkma@79.119.210.106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde Nemes1s (i=35580@acmex.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde blauzahl-laptop (n=zahl@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde hedeo (n=hedeo@77.94.42.14.satgate.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde easytiger (n=gerrys@gw1.bfs1.wombatfs.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde [a]ton (i=aton@unaffiliated/aton) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.37*** join/#kde pete (n=pete@unaffiliated/pete) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde mikb (n=mikb@c122-106-176-161.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde Vaxu (n=vaxaren@adsl-36-5.regionline.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde xenol (n=xenol@chello217023252151.chello.sk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde magyar (n=ondrish@76-10-176-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde Simkin (n=sdegabri@S010600104b6a224a.vf.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde Ramblurr (n=rmblr@amarok/developer/Ramblurr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde KingSofa (n=miller_t@64.74.112.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde grundleborg (n=grundleb@p15161269.pureserver.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde _al_ (n=al@vento.yok.utu.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde riot (n=wntrmut@krombacher-pils.oph.RWTH-Aachen.DE) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde arkanoid (n=arkanoid@exherbo/developer/arkanoid) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde Ditegen (n=ditegen@mafet.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde HaIrLeSsHoBo (n=flip@c-24-127-244-182.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde kennyz (n=kennyz@uralnet.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde rohanpm (n=rohan@kde/developer/rohanpm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde EisNerd (n=eisnerd@ccc2.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.38*** join/#kde silverk (n=silverk@84-50-22-127-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:28.39*** join/#kde chakie (n=chakie@dsl-aur-fee3de00-172.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde kdepepo (n=pepo@p5B3BE129.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde _drbob (n=drbob@ip110-32-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde dublpaws (n=none@207.3.149.84) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde sjraarke (n=ger@CPE-65-26-85-55.kc.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde shadok (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde hibread (n=hibread@124.189.242.157) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde stdin (i=stdin@ubuntu/member/stdin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde desti (n=desti@p5B01898F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
01:29.04*** join/#kde Defense (n=jepz@pD9EE6E3B.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde skwurp (n=none@118-92-207-75.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.04*** join/#kde OgreBoy (n=bill@82-43-92-45.cable.ubr08.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:29.05*** join/#kde rr72 (n=rr72@c-67-173-76-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde kdepepo (n=pepo@p5B3BE129.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde _drbob (n=drbob@ip110-32-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde dublpaws (n=none@207.3.149.84) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde sjraarke (n=ger@CPE-65-26-85-55.kc.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde shadok (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde hibread (n=hibread@124.189.242.157) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde stdin (i=stdin@ubuntu/member/stdin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde desti (n=desti@p5B01898F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
01:30.21*** join/#kde Defense (n=jepz@pD9EE6E3B.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde skwurp (n=none@118-92-207-75.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.21*** join/#kde OgreBoy (n=bill@82-43-92-45.cable.ubr08.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:30.22*** join/#kde rr72 (n=rr72@c-67-173-76-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:31.11*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
01:31.40*** join/#kde fedora_ (n=fedora@pool-72-83-154-170.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
01:33.55*** join/#kde cheko (n=quassel@p3EE27C18.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde murrant (n=murrant@12-218-48-161.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde fred (n=fred@phoenix.slamd64.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde XanK (n=carlos@190.36.233.93) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde c1|freaky (i=alpha@team.code-1.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde Thundercloud (n=thunderc@resnet07.nat.lancs.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde Tini_ (i=Tini@system.nPine.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde p_masho (n=mash@84-45-225-28.no-dns-yet.enta.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde zarvox (n=zarvox@mirror.tamu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde reinhold_away (i=reinhold@kde/kainhofe) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde fldc (i=fldc@c-7766e255.88-8-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde regis1 (n=regis@gre92-7-82-243-130-220.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:33.55*** join/#kde veilig (n=chatzill@cpe-066-057-244-094.nc.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:34.20*** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@jahogan.plus.com)
01:34.29*** part/#kde fungos (n=fungos@189.26.54.202.adsl.gvt.net.br)
01:36.09*** join/#kde GullyFoyle (n=jon@c-24-2-189-8.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde taupter_ (n=Taupter@201009119161.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde LjL (n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde hurikhan (n=kakra@adsl-9-118.nordcom.uni-bremen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde hsapien2 (n=manoj@nat/ibm/x-6da3c04883e56327) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde tsb (n=tsb@c900FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-67-188-92-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde SpeedyGhost (n=moon3010@kvirc/translator/SpeedyGhost) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde twouters (n=weechat@unaffiliated/twouters) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.09*** join/#kde msbhvn (i=haven@c-67-183-112-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
01:36.09*** join/#kde pnb (i=perchr@2001:16d8:ee0e:30:0:0:0:10) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:36.15*** join/#kde xdan779 (n=daniel@c-98-227-170-111.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
01:38.00*** join/#kde GullyFoyle (n=jon@c-24-2-189-8.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde taupter_ (n=Taupter@201009119161.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde LjL (n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde hurikhan (n=kakra@adsl-9-118.nordcom.uni-bremen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde hsapien2 (n=manoj@nat/ibm/x-6da3c04883e56327) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde tsb (n=tsb@c900FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-67-188-92-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde SpeedyGhost (n=moon3010@kvirc/translator/SpeedyGhost) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde twouters (n=weechat@unaffiliated/twouters) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.00*** join/#kde msbhvn (i=haven@c-67-183-112-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
01:38.00*** join/#kde pnb (i=perchr@2001:16d8:ee0e:30:0:0:0:10) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:38.05*** join/#kde WalterCool (n=quassel@200.14.84.74)
01:39.13*** join/#kde DrAgOoN (n=cout@modemcable051.210-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.13*** join/#kde yacc (n=andreas@88-117-79-221.adsl.highway.telekom.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.13*** join/#kde firephoto (n=tom@pool-71-120-230-105.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde gkiagia (n=gkiagia@147.52.192.201) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde radius (n=cube@pdpc/supporter/active/radius) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde oelewapp1rke (i=34d4599f@85-158-215-1.powered-by.benesol.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde pacman_87 (n=root@71.170.63.120) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde Tomasu (n=moose@S01060020781041c8.ed.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde lsemple (n=lsemple@d75-157-56-249.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde marcan (n=marcan@marcansoft.com)
01:39.14*** join/#kde deitarion (n=deitario@moinmoin/fan/deitarion) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde jens__ (n=jens@213-64-149-162-no39.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde pusling (i=pusling@77.75.162.71) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde lenscape (n=lenscape@cpc1-rdng3-0-0-cust698.winn.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde _CitizenKane_ (n=quassel@edit57.daily.umn.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde manu_hack (i=cu51764@banana.cc.columbia.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde MuJ (i=chryse@often.stnd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:39.14*** join/#kde Milo- (i=milo@mouhez.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:40.18*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
01:41.53*** join/#kde kuadrosx (n=kuadrosx@190.68.214.85) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.53*** join/#kde _Infinity_ (n=infinity@78-0-156-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.53*** join/#kde g2g591 (n=kyle@unaffiliated/g2g591) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.53*** join/#kde Drantin (n=drantin@pdpc/supporter/active/Drantin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.53*** join/#kde jordoex (n=JordanK@d154-20-33-59.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.53*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@216.48.163.26) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.53*** join/#kde jcolby (n=jcolby@d-65-175-241-33.cpe.metrocast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.54*** join/#kde frojnd (i=wildone@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.54*** join/#kde harryo (n=mythtv@pool-68-161-99-160.ny325.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.54*** join/#kde SimAtWork (n=thesimki@24.86.64.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.54*** join/#kde aseigo (n=aseigo@kde/aseigo) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde jrick (n=joshua@c-67-177-142-45.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde LXj (n=LXj@ip211-94.telenet.dn.ua) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde crweb (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
01:41.55*** join/#kde supert0nes (n=archer@75-133-87-5.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde hacosta__ (n=hector@189.160.11.9) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde neuzo (n=kvirc@81-208-83-236.fastres.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde shiznix (i=legends@gentoo/user/shiznix)
01:41.55*** join/#kde ingwa_ (n=ingwa@c83-252-213-105.bredband.comhem.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde nsams (n=niko@83-215-143-110.seek.dyn.salzburg-online.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde genta (n=genta@203.153.31.57) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde trops (n=michel@201008174032.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-84-129.leed.adsl.virgin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde s0nic__ (n=s0nic@p54A3131C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde Nate_Grey (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde Sho_ (n=EHS1@kde/hein)
01:41.55*** join/#kde swede__ (n=swede@h69-130-218-199.69-130.unk.tds.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde oneforall (n=guru@137.186.38.219) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde Jucato (n=Jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde nuonguy (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
01:41.55*** join/#kde erov (n=j@c-76-22-137-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde dmbkiwi (n=dmbkiwi@122-57-47-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.55*** join/#kde eternaleye (n=eternale@pool-71-112-7-214.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde doc_t (n=thrasher@p549AA25F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde mewshi (n=mewshi@pool-72-72-204-146.altnpa.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde dagar (n=dagar@206-248-137-66.dsl.teksavvy.com)
01:41.56*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde saint (n=saint@c211-30-227-45.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde hays (n=kde4@unaffiliated/hays) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde gleepmeiadreamin (n=drwxr-xr@user-2ivff0v.dsl.mindspring.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde Taz^ (n=jmezach@212-182-166-106.ip.telfort.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde Tanktalus (n=nfn@S01060016b6ee3085.ed.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde MinceR (n=mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde Bugz_ (n=jturning@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde memunkey (n=w0nderd0@c-69-249-4-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde Aishiko (n=aishiko@nc-71-55-80-214.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde troy (i=1000@S0106001d7ec31ae1.th.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde ian| (n=ian@dslb-084-060-000-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde flea__ (n=flea@96-25-18-49.ral.clearwire-dns.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde tagx (n=thomas@pool-71-178-179-88.washdc.fios.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde Shaikun (n=shaikun@host-72-175-28-253.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-75-246-22.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde matveev__ (n=matveev@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde _teatime (n=jens@213-64-149-162-no39.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.56*** join/#kde ozymandias2 (n=chapinj@12-219-28-217.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:41.58*** join/#kde kuadrosx (n=kuadrosx@190.68.214.85)
01:43.33*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
01:44.11*** join/#kde skyphyr (n=quassel@92-234-8-140.cable.ubr07.hari.blueyonder.co.uk)
01:46.54*** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@jahogan.plus.com)
01:46.57*** join/#kde ZwiSter (n=arne@pD9E3765C.dip.t-dialin.net)
01:52.32*** join/#kde Pullarotta^ (n=pullis@dsl-lmammlgw1-fe70fa00-201.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde aleksanteri (i=aleksant@unaffiliated/aleksanteri)
01:52.32*** join/#kde jagguli (n=steven@82.108.65.115) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde SanityIO (n=SanityIO@77.242.104.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde pgquiles (n=pgquiles@54.Red-79-153-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde artista_frustrad (n=artista_@201-25-168-191.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
01:52.32*** join/#kde Gentle_ (n=tier@HSI-KBW-078-042-061-227.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde pettern_ (n=pettern@195.204.118.180) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde xlotlu (n=john@79.115.183.153)
01:52.32*** join/#kde eljefe (n=eljefe@75-168-74-120.mpls.qwest.net)
01:52.32*** join/#kde hagabaka (n=hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.32*** join/#kde starscalling (n=user@66.74.76.42)
01:52.32*** join/#kde MoDaX (n=nth@lan-84-240-22-131.vln.skynet.lt)
01:52.33*** join/#kde P4R4D0X (i=P4R4D0X@P4R4D0X.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.33*** join/#kde PeterFA (n=Peter@unaffiliated/peterfa) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.33*** join/#kde sandsmark (n=quassel@likbilen.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.33*** join/#kde Corty (n=Corty@unaffiliated/corty)
01:52.33*** join/#kde sputters (n=sputnik@c-98-227-169-121.hsd1.il.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.33*** join/#kde budg (n=budg@c211-30-53-250.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au)
01:52.33*** join/#kde ryanakca (n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.33*** join/#kde falcon3 (n=kevwilde@igwe1.vub.ac.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:52.33*** join/#kde mkzelda (i=mkzelda@unaffiliated/mkzelda) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
01:58.17*** join/#kde shaman (n=shaman@ugly.rumour.com)
01:59.17*** part/#kde _Infinity_ (n=infinity@78-0-156-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr)
02:01.00*** join/#kde WindowsUninstall (n=WindowsU@host1-119-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
02:03.33*** join/#kde amalon_ (n=james@jahogan.plus.com)
02:03.46*** join/#kde smithjd (n=smithjd@S01060013d41e07c2.ed.shawcable.net)
02:04.18*** join/#kde Gentle` (n=tier@78.42.61.227)
02:11.10*** join/#kde ifricka (n=ifricka@72.51.71.254)
02:12.38*** join/#kde k1lumin4t1 (i=sortadi@unaffiliated/k1lumin4t1)
02:14.37*** join/#kde sergio_ (n=sergio@201.170.171.78)
02:14.38*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
02:14.55sergio_hello
02:18.41*** join/#kde holycow (n=new@mail.wjsgroup.com)
02:19.03*** join/#kde e-uoaphys (n=e-man@ip72-204-43-47.fv.ks.cox.net)
02:19.59*** join/#kde Zanella_ (n=zan@200.162.243.214.static-user.ajato.com.br)
02:20.54*** part/#kde Zanella_ (n=zan@200.162.243.214.static-user.ajato.com.br)
02:21.15*** join/#kde anselmolsm (n=anselmol@201.82.184.199)
02:25.28*** join/#kde njdube (i=njdube@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x00883AA4)
02:28.48njdubeI'm trying to put Liquid Weather on my KDE 4 desktop and I keep getting this error message.  You do not have PyQT installed.  This is a critical dependency for Liquid Weather ++.  Please install it and try again.
02:29.21*** join/#kde bwayne (n=bwayne@75-121-243-227.dyn.centurytel.net)
02:30.54xdan779njdube: do you have PyQT installed ?
02:32.05*** join/#kde guax (n=guaxinim@201-3-221-120.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
02:32.21njdubexdan779, I'm running openSUSE 11.0 with KDE 4.0.4.  I've installed all python devel packages as well as any thing mentioning pyqt.
02:33.56Jucatois it even possible to use SK widgets on KDE 4.0 at all?
02:35.57njdubeJucato, I don't know, but you would think when making 4.0 that a weather widget would be one of the first ones they make.  They don't even have a weather widget.  I guess I'm the only one who finds it useful.
02:36.11Jucatoum...
02:36.50haysnjdube: you could try porting it
02:36.51Jucatoin making a first, absolutely new, almost from scratch, release, you would think making things work would be one of the first things they do
02:37.02hayshmm
02:37.19*** join/#kde XanK (n=carlos@190.36.233.93)
02:37.32haysI wonder how badly coded the weather widget is... if its not bad maybe I can take a crack at that; might be a good learning experience
02:37.34Jucatoas for superkaramba on KDE 4, that is I think possible already in 4.1
02:38.18xdan779njdube: I am going to try installing it myself there is a native plasma weather widget in playground that seems to work well
02:39.10Jucatoyeah, besides the fact that LQ is 1. a 3rd-party app and 2. dependent on Superkaramba, which is something "they" (who's they anyway?) need to get working first
02:40.45njdubeJucato, Considering the confederated nature of open source groups, I have a hard time figuring out who makes what. ;-)  So I just say they.
02:40.58xdan779I have an option to install superkaramba widgets when selecting install new widgets it seems to install ok but it does not show up in the add widgets dialog after adding
02:41.51Jucatoso to presume that "they" should/would be doing this or that first, is quite a big presumption...
02:41.55hayswhere do the widgets get installed anyway
02:42.31haysthere is a kweather thing in kdetoys...
02:42.51xdan779hays they are installed to ~/.kde/share/apps/plasma/plasmoids
02:42.53haystrying to see if it made a widget
02:43.10*** join/#kde zblach (n=zblach@bas2-windsor12-1088927614.dsl.bell.ca)
02:43.28xdan779plasma
02:43.56*** join/#kde Mitchel (n=Mitchel@201-3-13-144.cpece705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
02:44.10njdubeHaving superkaramba in kde 3x made sense because as far as I know there where no native widget system in kde 3x.  But now there is a native widget system in kde 4x I'm wondering why there is still superkaramba in 4.0.
02:44.12haysI have .kde4 and .kdesvn directory
02:45.09hayshmm.. nothing in that directory even though I have widgets that I can add, such as the themable clock
02:47.11haysperhaps a better question is where do the system plasmoids come from
02:47.18njdubeFinely got a working copy of KBoincSpy on openSUSE 11.0.  I had to recompile from source and managed to make a RPM for 11.0.
02:47.34xdan779hays: only widgets you add as that user will show up there as for all the default ones they are more probobly where ever your installation of KDE4 resides
02:47.48haysyeah but where
02:48.07haysshare/apps/ has no plasma or plasmoid dir
02:48.09*** join/#kde swede_away (n=swede@h69-130-218-199.mntimn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net)
02:48.13hayslet me see if find  will find it
02:49.02*** join/#kde sabayonlive-7163 (n=sabayonu@71-221-182-115.bois.qwest.net)
02:52.03haysit seems to just drop them in bin
02:52.23haysthat's where kget is
03:06.18*** join/#kde sabayonlive-9503 (n=sabayonu@71-221-182-115.bois.qwest.net)
03:10.14*** join/#kde ethan961 (n=ethan@unaffiliated/ethan961)
03:11.04*** join/#kde Defense|twyn (n=jepz@pD9EE65EB.dip.t-dialin.net)
03:15.36*** join/#kde qupada (n=qupada@mail.coretech.co.nz)
03:18.17*** join/#kde root (n=root@201.230.133.254)
03:19.34*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
03:22.44*** part/#kde ethan961 (n=ethan@unaffiliated/ethan961)
03:23.25*** join/#kde spawn57 (n=sunil@n219078065090.netvigator.com)
03:25.55*** join/#kde aib (n=aib@pdpc/supporter/basic/aib)
03:28.14*** join/#kde xijiao (n=epocher@59.77.243.199)
03:30.34*** part/#kde _blam (n=blam@218.185.108.156)
03:33.47*** part/#kde PeterFA (n=Peter@unaffiliated/peterfa)
03:34.38*** join/#kde brldn (n=brlnd@dslb-084-063-117-002.pools.arcor-ip.net)
03:34.38*** join/#kde master_o1_master (n=master_o@p549D742C.dip.t-dialin.net)
03:41.07*** join/#kde davidfreeman (n=david@c-67-174-233-49.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
03:41.55*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
03:42.03*** join/#kde tornado_ (n=tornado@86.108.116.243)
03:43.18*** join/#kde ninjaslim (n=sabeeh@ool-43544a41.dyn.optonline.net)
03:49.23*** join/#kde david__ (n=david@190.53.199.137)
03:51.36*** join/#kde david__ (n=david@190.53.199.137)
03:52.45*** join/#kde TB (n=tbecker@146-115-120-151.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com)
03:55.02*** join/#kde d0c_t0m0e (n=thrasher@p549AA14E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
04:01.04*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
04:02.20*** join/#kde zen2242 (n=zen1@adsl-76-227-79-182.dsl.chmpil.sbcglobal.net)
04:02.32zen2242hi
04:02.39*** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing)
04:02.45zen2242where does kde set there umask settings at?
04:03.12zen2242i cant change the global settings on my linux distro to 0077
04:05.33zen2242it allows user group and others full access to everyones home directory, this is not acceptable
04:08.29*** part/#kde david__ (n=david@190.53.199.137)
04:11.42zen2242anyone have any ideas..
04:11.44zen2242?
04:14.31*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde ninjaslim (n=sabeeh@ool-43544a41.dyn.optonline.net)
04:14.31*** join/#kde swede_away (n=swede@h69-130-218-199.mntimn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde kuadrosx (n=kuadrosx@190.68.214.85) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde Drantin (n=drantin@pdpc/supporter/active/Drantin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde jordoex (n=JordanK@d154-20-33-59.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@216.48.163.26) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde jcolby (n=jcolby@d-65-175-241-33.cpe.metrocast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde frojnd (i=wildone@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde SimAtWork (n=thesimki@24.86.64.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde aseigo (n=aseigo@kde/aseigo) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde jrick (n=joshua@c-67-177-142-45.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde LXj (n=LXj@ip211-94.telenet.dn.ua) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde crweb (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
04:14.31*** join/#kde hacosta__ (n=hector@189.160.11.9) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde neuzo (n=kvirc@81-208-83-236.fastres.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.31*** join/#kde shiznix (i=legends@gentoo/user/shiznix)
04:14.31*** join/#kde ingwa_ (n=ingwa@c83-252-213-105.bredband.comhem.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde nsams (n=niko@83-215-143-110.seek.dyn.salzburg-online.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde trops (n=michel@201008174032.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-84-129.leed.adsl.virgin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde s0nic__ (n=s0nic@p54A3131C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde Nate_Grey (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde Sho_ (n=EHS1@kde/hein)
04:14.32*** join/#kde oneforall (n=guru@137.186.38.219) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde Jucato (n=Jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde nuonguy (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
04:14.32*** join/#kde erov (n=j@c-76-22-137-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde dmbkiwi (n=dmbkiwi@122-57-47-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde eternaleye (n=eternale@pool-71-112-7-214.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde mewshi (n=mewshi@pool-72-72-204-146.altnpa.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.32*** join/#kde dagar (n=dagar@206-248-137-66.dsl.teksavvy.com)
04:14.33*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde saint (n=saint@c211-30-227-45.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde hays (n=kde4@unaffiliated/hays) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde gleepmeiadreamin (n=drwxr-xr@user-2ivff0v.dsl.mindspring.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde Taz^ (n=jmezach@212-182-166-106.ip.telfort.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde Tanktalus (n=nfn@S01060016b6ee3085.ed.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde MinceR (n=mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde Bugz_ (n=jturning@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde memunkey (n=w0nderd0@c-69-249-4-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde Aishiko (n=aishiko@nc-71-55-80-214.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde troy (i=1000@S0106001d7ec31ae1.th.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde ian| (n=ian@dslb-084-060-000-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde flea__ (n=flea@96-25-18-49.ral.clearwire-dns.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde tagx (n=thomas@pool-71-178-179-88.washdc.fios.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde Shaikun (n=shaikun@host-72-175-28-253.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-75-246-22.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde matveev__ (n=matveev@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde _teatime (n=jens@213-64-149-162-no39.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde ozymandias2 (n=chapinj@12-219-28-217.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
04:14.33*** join/#kde mohankumar (n=mohan@59.145.136.1)
04:14.40*** join/#kde neuzo (n=kvirc@81-208-83-236.fastres.net)
04:15.31*** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster)
04:16.48*** join/#kde yacc_ (n=andreas@88-117-83-111.adsl.highway.telekom.at)
04:16.55*** join/#kde Arno[Slack] (n=arno@gre92-1-81-57-177-108.fbx.proxad.net)
04:17.09*** join/#kde ds3itz (i=dan@cpe-72-130-204-16.hawaii.res.rr.com)
04:18.24*** join/#kde mewshi (n=mewshi@pool-72-72-204-146.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
04:18.44*** join/#kde ninjaslim (n=sabeeh@ool-43544a41.dyn.optonline.net)
04:22.29*** join/#kde virmp (n=virmp@121.54.82.6)
04:22.32*** join/#kde Aceler (n=aceler@aceler.adsl.kis.ru)
04:23.50*** join/#kde tobias (n=tobias@p57AD37CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
04:27.23*** join/#kde pacman87 (n=timothy@71.170.63.120)
04:30.47*** join/#kde sabayonlive-2414 (n=sabayonu@201-167-44-189-cable.cybercable.net.mx)
04:31.17*** join/#kde djdarkman_ (n=djdarkma@194.102.155.150)
04:31.18*** join/#kde RabidWeezle (n=rabidwee@adsl-074-171-207-105.sip.owb.bellsouth.net)
04:31.30RabidWeezleanyone know a kde applet for volume control?
04:32.09pacman87so i copied .bashrc into my profile, but 'echo $QTDIR' gives /usr/lib/qt instead of /home/kde-devel/qt-copy
04:32.41pacman87when i added 'echo $QTDIR' into .bashrc after the export, it gives the right one
04:33.01zarvoxRabidWeezle: try kmix?
04:33.42*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
04:33.49RabidWeezlekmix stays on the bar?
04:34.08zarvoxaye, sir.
04:34.14zarvoxor ma'am.
04:34.40RabidWeezleSir, but your concideration that there is another sex is appreciated
04:35.49RabidWeezlesmiles watching a dvd
04:36.55RabidWeezlethanks
04:37.02RabidWeezle^_^
04:37.29*** join/#kde qupada42 (n=qupada@mail.coretech.co.nz)
04:40.54*** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing)
04:46.50zen2242ok, umask problem was solved.....
04:48.24zen2242umask problem was not a kde problem...   cross linked files..
04:50.27*** join/#kde kde_pepo (n=pepo@p5B3BC2F2.dip.t-dialin.net)
04:51.19*** join/#kde jacklis (n=jacklis@66-215-16-117.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com)
04:51.41*** join/#kde xlotlu_ (n=john@79.114.185.231)
04:51.45jacklishello is anyone here at all
04:51.52*** join/#kde brauliobo (n=braulio@200.73.37.154)
04:52.04*** join/#kde crweb (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
04:52.12pacman87~ask
04:52.13aptwell, ask is Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic.  Don't ask if you can ask a question first.  Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them.  Better questions more frequently yield better answers.  We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
04:53.22jacklishey pacman
04:54.06jackliswas tied up on the plater, he was unable to move and he was completely cooked with an apple in his mouth, he was hoping someone would eat him
04:54.10jackliscan someone eat me
04:55.12pacman87read the first part of that as you maxing out your hard drive access
04:55.32*** join/#kde wuxia_ (n=wuxia@unaffiliated/wuxia)
04:55.44wuxia_is there anyway I can rewrite key strkes; i.e. map space_down, space_up = ' '; but space_down, key_x_down, key_x_up, space_up as "momdifier3-x" ?
04:56.04*** join/#kde mhymn (i=mhymn@unaffiliated/mhymn)
04:56.08*** join/#kde brauliobo (n=braulio@200.73.37.154)
04:56.38jacklisanyone want to eat me
04:57.00wuxia_window 4
04:57.06jacklisim about to go, I really want to get eate
04:57.07jacklisn
04:57.13jacklisSOMEONE EAT ME PLEASE
04:58.17jackliswhat pacman
04:58.19*** join/#kde qupada42 (n=qupada@202-0-61-1.adsl.paradise.net.nz)
04:58.22jackliswhat
04:59.55*** join/#kde tictric (n=manfred@p5493150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
04:59.59*** part/#kde sjraarke (n=ger@CPE-65-26-85-55.kc.res.rr.com)
05:00.17*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
05:00.24jacklisanyone going to eat me
05:00.29pacman87anyone know why my export isnt' working?
05:01.10zarvoxpacman87: your shell sources that .bashrc file, but $QTDIR is wrong?
05:01.23pacman87yes
05:01.46pacman87kde-devel@abacus:~$ echo $QTDIR
05:01.46pacman87/usr/lib/qt
05:02.05zarvoxhmm, does QTDIR possibly get set anywhere else in kde-devel's profile?
05:02.15zarvoxlike, is that the last thing in .bashrc?
05:03.25pacman87i added a 'echo $QTDIR' as the last line in .bashrc, and it's correct there
05:03.45zarvoxoh weird.
05:03.58pacman87i'm running slackware, btw
05:04.00zarvoxtry running ". ~/.bashrc"
05:04.06*** join/#kde PolitikerNEU (n=Politike@d86-33-217-107.cust.tele2.at)
05:04.07*** join/#kde jazka (n=jazka@line-4798.dyn.kponet.fi)
05:04.09zarvoxre-source the bashrc file
05:04.17pacman87re-source?
05:04.43zarvoxwhen you start a shell, it "sources" .bashrc, which means it executes it
05:05.02pacman87i'm ssh'd into the machine i'm working on
05:05.30*** join/#kde lowks__ (n=lowks@219.94.52.86)
05:05.41pacman87hmm, it doesnt print the echo when i log in
05:06.21zarvoxodd...slackware use bash by default, or another shell?
05:06.31pacman87not sure
05:06.52zarvoxps
05:07.07zarvoxlists processes in current shell, which will include ps and the shell itself
05:07.19pacman87default is sh
05:07.28pacman87kde-devel is bash
05:08.31zarvoxhrm.  curious.
05:08.54zarvoxthis is /home/kde-devel/.bashrc we're talking about, right?
05:09.01zarvoxjust trying to make sure
05:09.07pacman87yes
05:09.26pacman87and thanks for the help
05:10.26*** join/#kde tictric (n=manfred@p5493150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
05:10.59zarvoxpacman87: still no luck?
05:11.09pacman87nope
05:11.35pacman87i dont think .bashrc is being run
05:12.03pacman87and runnign it seperately only changes thing while it's running
05:12.40*** join/#kde nhnFreespirit (n=nhn@0x5552cc2f.adsl.cybercity.dk)
05:15.12*** join/#kde crweb (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
05:15.25*** join/#kde xlotlu_ (n=john@79.114.185.153)
05:16.13*** join/#kde RabidWeezle (n=rabidwee@adsl-074-171-207-105.sip.owb.bellsouth.net)
05:20.03pacman87if anyone else runs into this, the fix is 'ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.profile'
05:20.19*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
05:22.54*** join/#kde supert0nes (n=archer@75-133-87-5.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com)
05:27.42*** join/#kde henrik_iv (n=henrik@78.156.214.245.bredband.3.dk)
05:29.51*** join/#kde serzholino (n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com)
05:31.31*** join/#kde ambient (n=tah@julma.lnet.fi)
05:36.17*** join/#kde Ditegen (n=ditegen@mafet.ru)
05:37.09*** join/#kde hacosta (n=hacosta@189.160.11.9)
05:45.01*** join/#kde allyourrejects (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
05:47.35*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
05:50.51*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
05:51.25Dhraakellian[#kde] knotify (kde 4.1beta2, Suse 11.0) keeps crashing on me, repeatedly (up to several times per minute)
05:51.56Dhraakellianerm... ignore the [#kde] tag... I did a full-line copy and paste accidentally
05:53.04Dhraakellianbut, yeahhttp://rafb.net/p/h3iN1s60.html
05:54.06Dhraakellianhttp://rafb.net/p/h3iN1s60.html for easier clicking
05:54.16*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
05:54.28Dhraakellianhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149290 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154011 are two bug reports I've found.  which one is more relevant?
05:56.56Dhraakellianhmm
05:57.01Dhraakellianloks around a little more
05:57.13Dhraakellianprobably more relevant ones than those
05:58.49*** join/#kde keisangi (n=keisangi@125x100x205x138.ap125.ftth.ucom.ne.jp)
05:59.05*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
05:59.27keisangikde 4.1 beta  fails to mount and display japanese samba shares
06:00.03Dhraakelliannevermind... those two do indeed look like the most relevant
06:00.03keisangi(shared directory which have their name written in japanese)
06:00.32keisangiwher should i report that ?
06:00.37keisangi*where
06:00.53zarvoxkeisangi: bugs.kde.org
06:01.03Dhraakellianit's very annoying to have crash windows opening up so often, but it does seem to have quieted down now
06:01.06keisangiit isn't just dolphin, but kde terminal too
06:01.07Dhraakellianfor the moment, at least
06:02.04*** join/#kde Rasi (n=carnager@e181163158.adsl.alicedsl.de)
06:02.20*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
06:02.29Rasihi
06:02.36zarvoxhi.
06:02.38Dhraakellianhmm... wonder if it has anything to do with window management
06:02.39Rasiany clue where i can ask questions about the bespin theme?
06:02.46*** join/#kde moenicke (n=moenicke@89.100.152.4)
06:03.09zarvoxDhraakellian: it looks like all of those backtraces refer to components of Phonon, the sound backend
06:03.41Dhraakellianyeah, I gathered that
06:03.43serzholinokeisangi: same with cyrillic shares
06:03.58Dhraakellianhmm
06:03.59serzholinoand cyrillic filenames in latin shares
06:04.46Dhraakellianinstalled -debug packages for libxine and libkde4
06:04.54Dhraakelliangoes to install phonon-debug
06:05.26keisangiserzholino, would you like me to report this ? i'm creating bug report for both if you want
06:05.31Dhraakelliandebuginfo, rather, not that it matters for conversational purposes
06:05.39*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
06:05.40serzholinokeisangi: yes
06:05.47keisangik
06:06.03serzholinoand give me link to the bug? for tracking
06:08.42*** join/#kde terr_ (n=terr_@dsl-vlan435-66-18-218-43.nucleus.com)
06:08.53*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
06:09.47*** join/#kde Hoki_Workin (n=GM_Mord@194.164.144.158)
06:13.58*** join/#kde guest (n=guest@122.54.238.34)
06:14.17*** join/#kde guest_ (n=guest@125.212.38.83)
06:15.39Dhraakellianrestarts KDE
06:19.36*** join/#kde adam (n=adam@chello089076219217.chello.pl)
06:20.23Dhraakellianreturns and waits for a crash
06:22.02keisangiserzholino, bug 164897
06:22.10Dhraakellian'course, now it says my backtrace is worthless
06:23.40*** join/#kde NickNak (n=paul@cpc3-duns4-0-0-cust87.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
06:24.56serzholinothanks, keisangi
06:25.03*** join/#kde andikr (n=andreas@nat/ibm/x-6716bbe2c06d5a13)
06:28.44*** join/#kde navetz (n=navetz@d57-109-1.home.cgocable.net)
06:29.22*** join/#kde guest (n=guest@210.4.57.199)
06:31.34*** join/#kde guest (n=guest@125.212.38.83)
06:31.34*** join/#kde oberling (n=oberling@brln-4db8085d.pool.einsundeins.de)
06:32.16*** join/#kde Shirakawasuna (n=nick@97-113-72-243.tukw.qwest.net)
06:32.29*** join/#kde esperegu (n=estasmi@145.116.11.111)
06:34.06*** join/#kde nielsvm (n=niels@a82-95-23-27.adsl.xs4all.nl)
06:35.07*** join/#kde floe (n=flo@i59F76939.versanet.de)
06:35.11*** join/#kde Dumble (n=Dumble@LAubervilliers-151-11-33-138.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr)
06:35.25*** join/#kde nitesh (n=nitesh@125.99.33.52)
06:35.26Dumblehello world !
06:35.35jazkareturn 0;
06:37.05*** join/#kde dbglt_ (n=dbglt@60-242-135-20.static.tpgi.com.au)
06:37.26*** join/#kde J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl)
06:37.39J-23Hi!
06:37.45J-23After logging out my KDE 4.1 testing removes all items from panel.
06:38.16*** join/#kde SSJ_GZ (n=SSJ@host-84-9-147-222.dslgb.com)
06:39.31*** join/#kde arkanoid (n=arkanoid@exherbo/developer/arkanoid)
06:39.57pacman87trying to build kdelibs: CMake Error: kdelibs requires an out of source build. Please create a separate build directory and run 'cmake path_to_kdelibs [options]' there.
06:40.37*** join/#kde broeman (n=broeman@90.185.36.135)
06:40.48tictricpacman87: read http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4
06:40.53*** join/#kde Jucato (n=Jucato@124.106.178.15)
06:41.00*** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing)
06:41.23pacman87tictric: i was...
06:42.02pacman87cmakekde fails
06:45.20pacman87http://pastebin.com/m776a4fd
06:45.33tictricIt states there somewhere that you need a separate dir for the build
06:45.36tictricthinks
06:46.54pacman87not that i see
06:47.57tictricpacman87: oh, it's in http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts
06:48.20tictricIt was convenient in kde3, it is mandatory in kde4: you need to use out-of-source builds,
06:48.27tictric...
06:48.57pacman87ah, thanks
06:49.33Jucatocmakekde is supposed to make sure of that. but you didn't put the src directory under the proper location. which is why cmakekde would have failed
06:49.39*** join/#kde japra_ct (n=japra_ct@S010600195bd5f8af.cg.shawcable.net)
06:50.55pacman87Jucato: i followed the instructions... what is the proper locatoin?
06:50.58pacman87location
06:50.59Jucatosource directory should have been ~/src/KDE/kdelibs/
06:51.11Jucatoyou only have ~/KDE/kdelibs/
06:51.15pacman87ah, ok
06:51.17pacman87thanks
06:51.32Jucatodid you make sure to run "cs" before you svn co?
06:51.52pacman87oops :(
06:52.07Jucatohttp://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#kdelibs
06:52.13Jucatocd, then cs,
06:52.19pacman87yeah, i skipped the cs
06:52.21pacman87my bad
06:53.03pacman87thanks for the help
06:53.55*** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-84-138.dsl.scarlet.be)
06:57.18*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
06:57.42*** join/#kde ajww (n=ajww@S010600198f37bafc.vc.shawcable.net)
06:58.42a_thingCan I compile a Plasmoid if I installed KDE from distro packages?
06:59.37Jucatoprobably. you just need kde4 headers
06:59.46*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
07:00.20*** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F558ED.versanet.de)
07:03.23*** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@4808ds2-suoe.0.fullrate.dk)
07:04.14*** join/#kde mumpitz (n=mumpitz@host170.natpool.mwn.de)
07:07.20*** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@116.83-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
07:08.19*** join/#kde pawel314 (n=pawel@nat-12.ghnet.pl)
07:09.30*** join/#kde annma (n=annma@AToulouse-256-1-130-63.w90-45.abo.wanadoo.fr)
07:10.12*** join/#kde desti (n=desti@p5B018EA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
07:10.18*** join/#kde mib_s0gkuovg (i=3e63466a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86ad5bcd9ae72e64)
07:10.22*** join/#kde speilicke (n=speilick@213.61.110.162)
07:10.23mib_s0gkuovghi
07:10.34mib_s0gkuovgdoes anybody know how to install Konqueror on Windows XP?
07:10.36*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
07:11.01mib_s0gkuovgi can't find it in the official mirrors
07:11.04*** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si)
07:11.24sandsmarkmib_s0gkuovg: use the kde for windows installer
07:11.29sandsmarkit installs the necessary libraries too
07:11.37mib_s0gkuovgyes, but what libraries?
07:11.54sandsmarkhttp://winkde.org/pub/kde/ports/win32/installer/
07:11.57annmathe installer does it
07:11.58mib_s0gkuovgi don't see konqueror anywhee
07:12.03mib_s0gkuovgyes, i have the installer
07:12.05annmait is in kdebase
07:12.11mib_s0gkuovgumh...
07:12.14mib_s0gkuovgok
07:12.18mib_s0gkuovgi'll try it
07:12.19mib_s0gkuovgthanks
07:12.23sandsmark=)
07:13.14mib_s0gkuovgdownloading... ^_^
07:13.22sandsmark=D
07:15.43*** join/#kde root (n=root@129.214.8.202.bb.banban.jp)
07:15.58sandsmarkroot: you should not be logged in as root
07:18.02*** join/#kde warrenDee (n=warren@eu62-88-30-151.adsl.euphonynet.be)
07:18.09warrenDeehi dear kde users :)
07:18.18mib_s0gkuovghi :D
07:18.40warrenDeei would like to know if kde4 applications are looking native on gnome?
07:18.48annmanative?
07:18.52warrenDeeqt4 applications are, but what about kde4 apps?
07:18.56*** join/#kde bgmiki (n=miki@233-221.static.ikomline.net)
07:19.03annmakde4 apps are qt4 apps as well
07:19.17warrenDeeyes, but when you launch a qt4 app in gnome, it looks like gnome
07:19.28annmadid you try a kde4 one?
07:19.59warrenDeewell i had liked to try, but downloading a kde4 app and all its dependencies would take too long with my internet
07:20.06annmaand ask your distro about it, in kde we have a style for gtk apps, they probably have the same on gnome side
07:20.07mib_s0gkuovgit happens the same thing to me
07:20.14Jucatohuh? qt4 apps in gnome look like gnome?
07:20.19warrenDeeyes
07:20.21mib_s0gkuovgnot exactly
07:20.24annmawarrenDee: ask on the gnome side please
07:20.26mib_s0gkuovgat least in my case
07:20.30Jucatothat would be a first...
07:20.31warrenDeei think it would be nice for kde4 apps too; like gtk apps in kde ;)
07:20.36warrenDeeok
07:20.46annmait's their problem, not ours
07:20.50warrenDeeyeah, but everybody knows gnome people -> |-)
07:20.53annmawe run KDE apps on KDE
07:21.11warrenDeeok
07:21.12*** join/#kde ElGee (n=LG@124.43.59.118)
07:21.12annmaI know some and they are very fine
07:21.19JucatowarrenDee: there's a Qt style in development that lets Qt apps look like gnome.
07:21.33warrenDeeIn QT ?
07:21.39*** part/#kde ElGee (n=LG@124.43.59.118)
07:21.41*** join/#kde chiefaua (n=tom@bernaschek12.wist.uni-linz.ac.at)
07:21.43Jucatobut it's still in development and I don't know whether it affects KDE
07:21.44mib_s0gkuovgwarrenDee, do you have tried Polymer?
07:21.46JucatoQt, not QT
07:21.51JucatoQT = Quicktime
07:21.59warrenDeeow yeah :s
07:22.01JucatoQt = Qt toolkit from Trolltech
07:22.13warrenDeeok, little error :)
07:22.17warrenDeeor big error :m
07:22.20annmacute = KDE
07:22.25Jucatoannma: no
07:22.29Jucatocute = me
07:22.33annmalol
07:22.34Jucatohides
07:22.54*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
07:23.41JucatowarrenDee: anyway, I've never heard of Qt 4 apps looking like Gnome/GTK apps, unless your distro does some magic there (maybe use a Gnome-like default theme for Qt, or use Clearlooks, etc)
07:24.10sandsmarkthere is a qt-lookalike engine for GTK
07:24.15warrenDeeit really does it, on all distros i tested
07:24.17sandsmarkwhy someone would do that, is beyond me, though =)
07:24.33Jucatosandsmark: that's different and the reverse of what he's looking for
07:24.41sandsmarkoki =)
07:24.45*** part/#kde mib_s0gkuovg (i=3e63466a@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-86ad5bcd9ae72e64)
07:25.02JucatowarrenDee: well then I highly doubt that it actually looks like Gnome... probably you just mistake it for looking like Gnome. :)
07:25.10Jucato(the default Qt 4 style btw, is Plastique afaik)
07:25.26Jucato(which is inspired from KDE 3's Plastik)
07:26.04annmawhat is this "gnome" you're all talking about?
07:26.05warrenDeehere's an example: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musicbrainz/users/luks/picard-qt/picardqt-gnome.png
07:27.13*** join/#kde eNTi (n=nt@85.127.149.46)
07:27.20Jucatoyep. cleanlooks
07:27.40JucatowarrenDee: it's using Cleanlooks, a Qt version of GTK's Clearlooks
07:28.02warrenDeeok, so if an app is using kde4, it will override then?
07:28.24*** join/#kde phrearch (n=phrearch@cc1255332-a.groni1.gr.home.nl)
07:28.47Jucatoa KDE 4 app will use what settings KDE 4 uses. Qt 4 apps will use what qtconfig is set to. (which is usually set to use what KDE style is in use by default)
07:28.56Jucato(if KDE is installed)
07:29.24warrenDeewould be nice if a kde4 app uses the qtconfig style when not on kde or something like that, but i think this isn't a kde problem
07:29.54warrenDeebtw, will it ever be possible again to use the "Desktop" folder on the KDE4 desktop?
07:30.04sandsmarkwarrenDee: yes
07:30.10sandsmarkwarrenDee: just like in kde 3.5
07:30.11JucatowarrenDee: yes and more
07:30.20warrenDeefor kde 4.1?
07:30.27warrenDeeor is it already in the kde 4.0.x ?
07:30.35JucatowarrenDee: KDE 4 apps *can* use Qt 4 styles. but it will, of course, default to its own KDE style
07:30.39sandsmarkwarrenDee: not easily, in 4.2 it will probably be a checkbox or similar
07:30.44Jucato4.2 actually
07:30.53Jucatoin 4.1 you can have it as an applet
07:31.00warrenDeeow yeah :(
07:31.04Jucato(imho less space consuming)
07:31.19sandsmarkJucato: I don't think there's anything stopping you from setting the folder view as a containment on the desktop in 4.1
07:31.21*** join/#kde WindowsUninstall (n=WindowsU@host237-117-dynamic.50-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
07:31.32Jucatosandsmark: sure. but I'm no aseigo or Chani
07:31.33warrenDeewould be nice as default though, imo
07:31.35sandsmarkthere just isn't an easy gui-option to set it (didn't get in under string freeze)
07:31.48sandsmarkwarrenDee: that's up to the distros =)
07:32.19warrenDeeyeah but if every program should have defaults from the distro ...
07:33.17*** join/#kde user0 (n=user0@41.226.223.125)
07:33.23*** join/#kde p_masho (n=mash@84-45-225-28.no-dns-yet.enta.net)
07:33.31user0hi all
07:33.49*** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing)
07:34.29*** join/#kde fishsponge_ (n=fishspon@212.44.16.158)
07:34.35sandsmarkwarrenDee: OpenSuse does a wonderful job with that
07:34.58warrenDeethat's true ;)
07:35.02fishsponge_hey people - in KDE4, how do i create a Panel icon that would load "firefox http://www.url.com"? I don't want that URL to be my homepage - i just want that icon to run that command....
07:35.12warrenDeeif you compare with kubuntu: lol
07:35.25annmaeverything's green is Suse style, rejoice in green
07:35.56annmanever had a Suse distro in fact so this is just an impression
07:36.06sandsmarkwell, ubuntu does very many nice things with Gnome, almost makes it usable =)
07:36.30sandsmarkannma: that's my impression too, though I've only used suse on other's computers, and their livecd's =)
07:39.50fishsponge_does anyone know, in KDE4, how do i create a Panel icon that would load "firefox http://www.url.com"? I don't want that URL to be my homepage - i just want that icon to run that command....
07:41.06annmafishsponge_: how do you do it from terminal? just "firefox http://www.url.com"" ?
07:41.43fishsponge_yeah
07:42.13*** join/#kde aleksanteri (i=aleksant@adsl-85-157-236-142.regionline.fi)
07:42.36*** join/#kde zenstar (n=zenstar@ip72-205-197-164.sb.sd.cox.net)
07:42.58zenstarHi, What's the shortcut to open the Desktop folder under KDE4?
07:43.39annmazenstar: the desktop folder is in folderview on your desktop
07:44.03*** join/#kde ponto (n=ponto@bg-1.or.uni-bonn.de)
07:44.15zenstarso How can I create a new folder directly on the desktop?
07:44.37*** join/#kde Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37)
07:44.43tictriczenstar: But if I'm not mistaken you should dispose of using your desktop as a folder
07:44.50*** join/#kde Phlogi (n=bla@vpn-global-dhcp3-111.ethz.ch)
07:44.58tictrickde4 tries to get rid of that
07:45.02zenstarI noticed that
07:45.16zenstarThat's fine with me, I was just wondering if there was a way
07:45.18sandsmarktictric: no
07:45.24*** join/#kde phisphere (n=verner@ip164.cab59.mus.starman.ee)
07:45.30fishsponge_annma: yes - i just run "firefox http://www.url.com"
07:45.34tictricSee? I'm mistaken :)
07:45.44sandsmarktictric: in kde 4.2 it will be just a simple click to get back the normal desktop, afaik =)
07:46.35tictricI find that new apporach very appealing
07:46.36zenstarHow come I can't transfer files between Konquerer & Dolphin?
07:47.40annmazenstar: transfer = move?
07:47.47zenstaryes
07:47.58*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
07:49.16zenstarannma: Nevermind.. I can do it now.. I couldn't before for some odd reason
07:49.35*** join/#kde dbglt_ (n=dbglt@60-242-135-20.static.tpgi.com.au)
07:49.39*** join/#kde thiago_home (n=thiago@kde/thiago)
07:50.19miwimoin
07:52.00*** join/#kde shiznix (i=legends@gentoo/user/shiznix)
07:52.31annmafishsponge_: you need to make a script like runFirefox.sh
07:52.39annmawith the above line
07:52.53annmain Desktop or soemwhere and drag it on your desktop
07:53.04annmaa script = make it executable
07:54.55*** join/#kde oversize (n=manuel@manz-4d00b50b.pool.mediaWays.net)
07:55.39*** part/#kde J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl)
07:55.55zenstarannma: Can you use Dolphin as the default file manager?
07:56.16annmait is the default one
07:56.36annmawhat do you mean "use it as default" anyway?
07:56.37*** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.76.144)
07:57.24zenstarWell for instance, when I open up 'My Computer', or want to edit a filename inside Amarok, it's defaulting to Konkqueror
07:57.33sandsmarkzenstar: the default file manager depends on what file associations you set for "inode/directory"
07:58.30zenstarsansmark: Where can I check?
07:58.43fishsponge_annma: in KDE3.5 i could just create a Launcher and type the command etc... into a dialog box - has this useful feature been removed?
07:58.59thiago_homethere's no "My Computer" icon
07:59.05thiago_homeare you using KDE 3 or KDE 4?
07:59.13zenstarKDE4
07:59.16sandsmarkzenstar: in system settings
07:59.20sandsmarkfile associations
07:59.26sandsmark(search for it =)
07:59.32zenstarokay, thanks
08:01.14*** part/#kde serzholino (n=serzh@fw.zaporizhstal.com)
08:01.29annmafishsponge_: you could create a launcher from where?
08:01.53*** join/#kde robewald|work (n=robewald@srvkrsexc10.nov.com)
08:02.41*** join/#kde Hoenikker (n=dot@rboss.lod.com)
08:03.28Hoenikkerhow do i get thinkpad volume keys to work in kmix in beta2?
08:03.36fishsponge_annma: right-click Panel, Add Applet, Custom Launcher - something like that, anyway
08:04.00Hoenikkeror, any other thinkpad keys for that matter
08:04.18annmafishsponge_: this doe snot exist yet
08:05.24zenstarsandsmar: Is system settings in Yast?
08:05.39zenstar(I'm a gnome user.. just switched to KDE)
08:05.46zenstaror was.. :)
08:06.29fishsponge_annma: so there's no way to create an icon that runs a custom command through a GUI at all?
08:06.46sandsmarkzenstar: I'm not sure =)
08:06.53sandsmark(I don't use open suse)
08:07.02zenstarsansmark: which distro?
08:07.04sandsmarkzenstar: try hitting alt+f2, write systemsettings, and hit enter
08:07.16sandsmarkis using Arch Linux
08:07.36zenstarsandsmar: not listed
08:07.48annmanot yet fishsponge_
08:07.48sandsmarktry asking in #opensuse =)
08:07.53*** join/#kde bluesceada_ (n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada)
08:08.49fishsponge_annma: hmm... that's kinda disappointing
08:08.51fishsponge_oh well!
08:09.00zenstarsandsmark: What kinds of things are in systemsettings
08:09.02annmafishsponge_: it's not even 4.1
08:09.05sandsmarkzenstar: also, try just writing "sands" and hit TAB, and your IRC-client should auto-complete my nick =)
08:09.14annmafishsponge_: we're not supermen
08:09.15sandsmarkzenstar: in KDEmod, all settings
08:09.26sandsmarkannma: =O
08:09.28fishsponge_i can right-click on an existing icon and choose "Icon Settings" that's the GUI i recognise - but i don't have permission to edit them, of course
08:09.34*** join/#kde paloris_J (n=paloris_@202.150.113.196)
08:10.00fishsponge_annma: i know you're not supermen - i understand that coding stuff takes time... so no worries there :-)
08:10.11annmaOK :)
08:10.19annmathanks
08:10.53zenstarsandsmark: thanks again
08:11.00sandsmarknp
08:11.48zenstarsandsmark: Okay it's under Desktop settings which opens up a folder called system settings
08:11.54sandsmarkah, ok =)
08:13.58zenstarsandsmark: I see under file associations that dolphin is preferred over konqueror
08:14.14sandsmarkzenstar: that is weird
08:14.31zenstarsandsmark: I know
08:15.27pinotreekeisangi: your problem was already reported, btw
08:15.41zenstarsandsmark: are they planning on eventually phasing out konqueror?
08:15.48sandsmarknot that I know of
08:16.16*** join/#kde Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37)
08:16.27zenstarit's a little different for me coming from Gnome, which uses Nautilus
08:16.57*** join/#kde bram85 (n=bram@h107030.upc-h.chello.nl)
08:17.17sandsmarkDolphin is more like nautilus, I would guess
08:17.48zenstarsandsmark: I liked the split folder views, which nautilus doesn't do
08:18.01sandsmark=)
08:18.23*** join/#kde konadr (n=Kon@unaffiliated/konadr)
08:19.41fishsponge_i can't believe it's so difficult to just create a custom icon in KDE4! lol
08:20.12sandsmarkfishsponge_: probably noone needed it before =)
08:20.18*** join/#kde Muad`dib (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
08:20.33sandsmarkfishsponge_: can't you just right-click in Dolphin, create new, link to something something, etc.?
08:21.47*** join/#kde robinw (n=robinw@rb5bg40.net.upc.cz)
08:21.55sandsmarkfishsponge_: link to application
08:22.00sandsmarkthen drag that down to the panel?
08:22.26sandsmarkset command to firefox http://www.com
08:23.22*** join/#kde cga (n=cga@84.221.255.50)
08:25.38*** join/#kde shadok_ (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
08:25.49fishsponge_ah - Dolphin - Right-click, New Link to Application!
08:25.52fishsponge_that's what i need!
08:26.21*** join/#kde root (n=root@ppp-58-9-47-133.revip2.asianet.co.th)
08:27.07Guest36142sdasd
08:27.31konadrdont irc as root Guest36142
08:27.34zenstarfishsponge_: there you go.. see KDE is making you do things off the desktop
08:27.36annmafishsponge_: indeed, sorry I did not know
08:27.36konadrheh
08:27.49annmafishsponge_: you can even set the Firefox icon to it
08:28.03fishsponge_well, not the desktop - Dolphin
08:28.13fishsponge_trying to do it from the desktop or the Panel fails
08:28.18fishsponge_but through Dolphin, so far, it's working...
08:28.40annmajust drag it on Desktop
08:30.35*** join/#kde dbglt__ (n=dbglt@60-242-135-20.static.tpgi.com.au)
08:30.37*** join/#kde _blam (n=blam@218.185.108.156)
08:30.37*** join/#kde easytiger (n=gerrys@gw1.bfs1.wombatfs.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde pete (n=pete@92.9.248.177) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde chiefaua (n=tom@bernaschek12.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde chakie (n=chakie@80.222.227.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde aleksanteri (i=aleksant@unaffiliated/aleksanteri) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde speilicke (n=speilick@213.61.110.162) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde Jucato (n=Jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde nitesh (n=nitesh@125.99.33.52) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde Dumble (n=Dumble@LAubervilliers-151-11-33-138.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde andikr (n=andreas@nat/ibm/x-6716bbe2c06d5a13) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde keisangi (n=keisangi@125x100x205x138.ap125.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.37*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde master_o1_master (n=master_o@p549D742C.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde XanK (n=carlos@190.36.233.93) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde e-uoaphys (n=e-man@ip72-204-43-47.fv.ks.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde miwi (n=miwi@duro.unixfreunde.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde jeekl (n=crz@unaffiliated/jeekl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde magyar_ (n=magyar_@secondary.pssnet.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome)
08:30.38*** join/#kde thechef (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde blauzahl (n=ax4@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde FransE (n=fenglich@nat/trolltech/x-c610b2e977a0a88d) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde david_ (n=david@s207-6-27-95.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde mx80 (n=mx80@cust116.177.113.38.dsl.g3telecom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde ded (n=dedmajor@83.102.210.52) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde djdarkman (n=djdarkma@79.119.210.106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde Nemes1s (i=35580@acmex.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde blauzahl-laptop (n=zahl@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde hedeo (n=hedeo@77.94.42.14.satgate.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde [a]ton (i=aton@unaffiliated/aton) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde mikb (n=mikb@c122-106-176-161.belrs3.nsw.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde Vaxu (n=vaxaren@adsl-36-5.regionline.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde xenol (n=xenol@chello217023252151.chello.sk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.38*** join/#kde magyar (n=ondrish@76-10-176-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde Simkin (n=sdegabri@S010600104b6a224a.vf.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde Ramblurr (n=rmblr@amarok/developer/Ramblurr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde KingSofa (n=miller_t@64.74.112.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde grundleborg (n=grundleb@p15161269.pureserver.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde _al_ (n=al@vento.yok.utu.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde riot (n=wntrmut@krombacher-pils.oph.RWTH-Aachen.DE) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde HaIrLeSsHoBo (n=flip@c-24-127-244-182.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde kennyz (n=kennyz@uralnet.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde rohanpm (n=rohan@kde/developer/rohanpm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde EisNerd (n=eisnerd@ccc2.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.39*** join/#kde silverk (n=silverk@84-50-22-127-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.48*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.48*** join/#kde oversize (n=manuel@manz-4d00b50b.pool.mediaWays.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.49*** join/#kde nhnFreespirit (n=nhn@0x5552cc2f.adsl.cybercity.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
08:30.49fishsponge_how do i get my newly-created icon onto a Panel?
08:30.49*** join/#kde _neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
08:30.49fishsponge_how do i get my newly-created icon onto a Panel?
08:30.49Jucatoanyone else experiencing random X restarts/crashes when viewing some web sites and KWin effects are enabled? using nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 card, using driver 96.43.05
08:30.49Jucatofishsponge_: drag and drop on the panel
08:31.05sandsmarkJucato: flash involved?
08:31.15Jucatosandsmark: nope
08:31.16sandsmarkJucato: latest versions of flash try to use opengl =3
08:31.19sandsmarkok
08:31.19annmathat crashes currently for me on trunk to drag an icon in panel
08:31.24*** join/#kde Jejem (n=Jejem@lord.phyrexia.org)
08:31.29Jucatohas no panel... anyway..
08:31.45annmaso fingers crossed for fishsponge_
08:31.47Jucatosandsmark: flash or no flash, it always seems to be triggered (randomly) by a web page...
08:32.08sandsmarkJucato: well, I have intel everywhere =)
08:32.11Jucatorandom web page... but before I could reproduce it consistently with the nvidia web page
08:32.22Jucatohm.. well until Intel makes IGP's.. I'm lost
08:32.24sandsmarkheh, ironic =)
08:32.26Jucatoer. AGP's
08:32.36Jucato(or PCI-E's...)
08:33.01JucatoIt's getting really annoying... specially when X crashes randomly in the middle of important work
08:33.13crwebwhat happens if you try to run with just the "nv" x driver?
08:33.17Jucatoone more crash and I'm turning off kwin effects permanently... even if I'm so used to it
08:33.36crweboh nvrmind. then there are no effect
08:33.40Jucatoyep
08:33.46*** join/#kde mbreugel (n=nix@ip-81-11-208-12.dsl.scarlet.be)
08:34.20Jucatosome of my work habits are tied to it by now. specially Present Windows and Desktop Grid
08:34.47gkiagiaJucato: that driver is quite old... newer versions don't support your gpu I suppose?
08:34.55Jucatogkiagia: yep.
08:35.06*** join/#kde ambro962 (n=ambro@BSN-77-101-149.dsl.siol.net)
08:35.11Jucatoand I can't even upgrade my card... because most of the latest supported nvidia cards are all pci-e
08:35.11crwebactully they keep the 96 driver up to date
08:35.24crwebJucato: ?  I have lots of latest agp cards
08:35.27Jucatocrweb: not recently it seems
08:35.31sandsmarkbuy an ati?
08:35.35*** join/#kde bushwakko (n=bushwakk@tyholt-gw.ntnu.no)
08:35.38Jucatocrweb: aren't they legacy now?
08:35.42crwebJucato: i have a 7200GT agp
08:35.58Jucatooh well.. I'll try to look into the market again...
08:36.22gkiagiasandsmark: no! ati is worse...
08:36.39crwebJucato: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121064
08:36.44sandsmarkgkiagia: the open sores ati drivers where actually pretty nice, last time I tried
08:36.48crwebJucato: nothing legacy about that ;)
08:36.51Jucatonot wanting to go into a graphics card debate
08:36.57sandsmark=P
08:37.43tictricthough closed source. Xinerama's cool
08:37.43Jucatocrweb: legacy = referring to drivers.. unless that's what you meant too
08:37.43sandsmarkwell, ati/amd has released specs, nvidia hasn't, case closed (for rms =)
08:37.43sandsmarkxrandr >> xinerama
08:37.51crwebJucato: right,  legacy only covers older than FX cards
08:37.57tictrichmm
08:37.58Jucatowth?! nvidia's new site layout is confusing...
08:38.04tictriclooks up xrandr
08:38.08crwebJucato: i dunno if it is what you meant, but it doesn't involve agp/pci-e
08:38.11oneforallI use NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.08-pkg2.run with my agp FX5200
08:38.45*** join/#kde Onesmo (n=Onesmo@mail.kiitec.ac.tz)
08:39.04Jucatocrweb: we live in different countries. the latest video cards here (ones that are most likely to be still non-legacy), are almost all PCI-E
08:39.20*** join/#kde rand_acs (n=randacs@dsl-240-26-243.telkomadsl.co.za)
08:39.33*** join/#kde ElemonGW (n=ElemonGW@unaffiliated/elemongw)
08:39.49crwebJucato: that stinks.  If i were you i'd go to ebay and pickup whatever i wanted with international shipping
08:40.08Onesmowhat?
08:40.21Onesmowho is there?
08:40.57Jucatocrweb: hm.. I'll take a look at that 7600GS...
08:41.09JucatoI hope something's available...
08:41.42oneforall<PROTECTED>
08:41.48oneforallid/is
08:42.21Jucatowell next time I go window shopping, I'll just bring a *@#@# list of supported cards..
08:42.34Jucatoso no one else having X crashes? :(
08:43.38*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
08:44.24*** join/#kde buscher (n=buscher@p57BCE206.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:44.31*** join/#kde J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl)
08:45.12*** part/#kde skwurp (n=none@118-92-207-75.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz)
08:45.42*** join/#kde guillem (n=guillem@129.104.11.1)
08:45.46zenstarAnyone running boinc under KDE4?
08:45.57*** join/#kde t_s_o (n=tso@195.84-49-129.nextgentel.com)
08:46.20*** join/#kde smith (n=smith@66.249.9.196)
08:46.29*** join/#kde bubu75 (n=bubu7575@dialin-207-112-30-224.tor.primus.ca)
08:47.22*** part/#kde bubu75 (n=bubu7575@dialin-207-112-30-224.tor.primus.ca)
08:47.47*** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.56.20)
08:48.58*** join/#kde |igor_ (n=igor@77.28.5.126)
08:52.00J-23zenstar: yes.
08:52.20*** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E197F6.dip.t-dialin.net)
08:52.28zenstarJ-23: I'm getting a cert error.. and it's dumping a bunch of files in my home folder
08:52.32J-23;/
08:52.40J-23try asking at #boinc
08:53.03zenstarJ-23: I am.. they seem clueless
08:53.15*** join/#kde oversize_ (n=manuel@manz-4d003fd1.pool.mediaWays.net)
08:53.22*** join/#kde solsTiCe (n=solsTiCe@ARennes-356-1-34-70.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr)
08:53.56solsTiCehi. i have got only 3 files configure.in.bot configure.in.in Makefile.am. how can i compile ? auto{conf,make} gives only errors
08:54.16*** join/#kde Harold (n=Harold@mhy71-1-82-242-198-128.fbx.proxad.net)
08:54.36annmasolsTiCe: what app?
08:54.50solsTiCekipi-plugins svn
08:55.03annmawhere are those in? extragear/foo?
08:55.15annmapaste svn line you use to svn co them please solsTiCe
08:55.49solsTiCesvn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/libs/kipi-plugins
08:56.14solsTiCeand then svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kde-common/admin  inside kipi-plguins directory
08:57.00sandsmarkis kipi-plugins ported to kde 4 yet?
08:57.01*** join/#kde chris_ (n=chris@79-74-46-113.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
08:57.11solsTiCei don't know
08:57.24annmasvn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/extragear/kde3/libs/kipi-plugins
08:57.30annmawhat's the module here?
08:57.33*** join/#kde lhgergo (n=lhgergo@catv-5985652a.catv.broadband.hu)
08:57.36annmalibs?
08:57.40lhgergohi
08:57.47annmayou need the module top files solsTiCe
08:57.47*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
08:57.54lhgergocan you help me? where can i play kbattleship online?
08:57.59solsTiCeannma: ah ok
08:58.13*** join/#kde guillem (n=guillem@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr)
08:58.13annmasolsTiCe: why do you need to build that?
08:58.20*** join/#kde Muad`dib (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
08:58.48solsTiCeannma: ia dev asked to cimpile that before filling a bug report about picasa plugin
08:58.52solsTiCeand test it
08:59.12annmawhat dev?
08:59.15*** join/#kde hamish (n=hamish@203-79-94-158.cable.telstraclear.net)
08:59.18*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
08:59.39annmasolsTiCe: if you have a bug in your package just report it
08:59.54annmasolsTiCe: it's not a normal practice to ask you to build it
09:00.11annmaeither your distro messed it or the bug is in KDE
09:00.47*** join/#kde konadr_ (n=Kon@unaffiliated/konadr)
09:00.51Jucato(the bug is in my room... I sprayed it with insect killer)
09:01.16sandsmarkflyspray?
09:01.18annmalol
09:01.26annmaKSpray
09:01.31paloris_JI am trying to compile kdelibs and am getting this error CMake Error: Could NOT find QtGlobal header.
09:01.40*** join/#kde Oxyd00m (n=Oxyd00m@host242-204-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
09:01.42sandsmark=)
09:01.48paloris_Jany thoughts on how to fix it
09:02.05sandsmarkpaloris_J: install qt? =)
09:02.13paloris_Jit is installed
09:02.34sandsmarkfix your paths?
09:02.36paloris_Jqt-copy for that matter
09:03.26sandsmarkwhat distro?
09:03.49paloris_Jwhich qmake  ~/kde/src/qt-copy/bin/qmake
09:04.06paloris_Jwhich is where my qt is installed
09:04.21annmapaloris_J: echo $PATH
09:04.22paloris_Jsandsmark:  Fedora 9
09:04.30*** join/#kde zarvox (n=zarvox@mirror.tamu.edu)
09:04.41annmapaloris_J: echo $PATH and paste
09:05.45annmapaloris_J: ?
09:05.56annmashould be straightforward!
09:06.59sandsmark=/
09:07.06paloris_Jannma:  Just doing it now
09:07.19*** join/#kde whitman (n=itoffice@w370.admn.cf.ac.uk)
09:07.26paloris_Jrafb is taking its time to load
09:08.59*** join/#kde annma_ (n=annma@AToulouse-256-1-25-56.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr)
09:09.27paloris_Jnow it is taking its time to past the code
09:09.50*** part/#kde solsTiCe (n=solsTiCe@ARennes-356-1-34-70.w86-214.abo.wanadoo.fr)
09:09.53*** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si)
09:09.55*** join/#kde dizney (n=sidney@office.info.nl)
09:10.06annma_http://kde.pastey.net/ paloris_J
09:10.08annma_I was cut, did you paste the PATH line?
09:10.19paloris_JAnd I am a poet. Just in case you did not ni\otice
09:10.52paloris_Jhttp://rafb.net/p/3GkcL647.html
09:12.11annma_so now retry kdelibs cmake
09:12.23annma_and paste it all: the cmake command and all the output please
09:12.28*** join/#kde tobias (n=tobias@141.44.228.102)
09:13.06paloris_JI used cmakekde for kdelibs
09:13.29paloris_JIt was kdebase that I was having the problem with
09:13.40paloris_Jdo you want kdelibed or base
09:13.42*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
09:13.58annma_paloris_J> I am trying to compile kdelibs and am getting this error CMake Error: Could NOT find QtGlobal header.
09:14.12annma_you said kdelibs
09:14.22paloris_JOr Sorry
09:14.25annma_so did you build kdelibs then?
09:14.33paloris_Jkdebase was what I ment
09:14.52paloris_Jkdelibs builds ok
09:15.11annma_so do it with kdebase
09:15.17paloris_Jkdebase has the QTGlobal error
09:16.11paloris_Jhttp://kde.pastey.net/90017
09:16.14annma_paste in pastebin the cmake command and all the output please
09:16.30annma_cmakekde hu
09:17.08*** join/#kde hagabaka (n=hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka)
09:17.27annma_is it your first kdebase build?
09:18.01paloris_Jno
09:18.13annma_you already built it?
09:18.21paloris_Jyes
09:18.23*** part/#kde lhgergo (n=lhgergo@catv-5985652a.catv.broadband.hu)
09:18.26annma_so rm build dir
09:18.29annma_and retry
09:18.43paloris_Jbut I deleted the build directory and started again
09:18.55*** join/#kde tictric (n=manfred@p5493150C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
09:19.03annma_really
09:19.12*** join/#kde mazzachre (n=mazzachr@85.235.250.110)
09:19.35annma_you probably had not qt-copy first in PATH
09:19.45annma_restart now that you fixed it
09:20.23paloris_Jseems to be working
09:21.09paloris_JThat is really frustrating when that happens
09:21.29annma_you messed your PATH
09:21.53annma_it should not happen
09:22.05*** join/#kde Eruaran (n=fuggster@183.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au)
09:22.27EruaranAarons blog is now invite only :-(
09:22.53SputO_o
09:23.03annma_Eruaran: he did not want everyone giving his stupid advice on Akademy location probably
09:23.31bram85and what about the piles of shit he has to go through regarding plasma
09:23.32EruaranI was assuming it was because of the trolls... been alot lately
09:23.33annma_people just comment on anything, especially on things they are not even involved with
09:23.48paloris_Jannma_:  A small python script that checks your path and enviroment varables would be really handy
09:23.56annma_paloris_J: write it
09:24.13annma_paloris_J: and attach it to the page
09:24.15paloris_JNot a good enough programer
09:24.26*** part/#kde katastrophe (n=lol@static.230.173.47.78.clients.your-server.de)
09:24.26annma_well why do you build kde then
09:24.40annma_this page was done for people who know what they do
09:24.53paloris_JI enjoy the chalange. And it is good to run the latest programs
09:25.04sandsmarkbah, he could've just blocked comments =3
09:25.18annma_well have a look at your .bashrc and try to understand what it does
09:25.28annma_sandsmark: how?
09:25.33annma_what's the difference
09:25.46paloris_Jannma_:  I understand the .bashrc
09:25.56annma_paloris_J: then it should work
09:25.58EruaranTrolls ruin it for people like me who enjoy Aarons blog
09:26.02sandsmarkannma_: aseigo used to have very liberal settings with comments
09:26.10annma_sandsmark: and?
09:26.15annma_people abused it
09:26.22sandsmarkhe could've demanded registered users, or just disallowed comments
09:26.25*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
09:26.26sandsmarkI know
09:26.44annma_I don't write anymore blogs myself
09:27.11sandsmarkneither, not that anyone read my blog in the first place =)
09:27.13bram85the blesses of web 2.0
09:27.15annma_I have a private blog and that's it
09:27.20EruaranI've started a blog several times
09:27.30EruaranI never get past the first post
09:27.39*** join/#kde rdale (n=rdale@158.Red-88-2-176.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
09:28.19annma_Aaron gets picked and people just get mean
09:28.29Eruaranyes
09:28.42*** join/#kde MichaJ (n=michael@195.37.252.101)
09:28.42annma_they don't have a clue on how things are done anyway
09:28.46*** join/#kde Gunth3r (i=Gunther@cm20074.red.mundo-r.com)
09:28.50*** join/#kde damada (n=mada@132.230.182.90)
09:29.09EruaranSome of the worst comments I've seen have been totally clueless and misinformed
09:29.10sandsmarkprobably gnome people from the freedesktop-planet =)
09:29.28annma_some blogs do not need comments anyway
09:29.37EruaranOr a rent-a-crowd of shills from Redmond
09:29.45annma_the Akademy location ppost doe snot need comments, it's informative, that's it
09:29.56sandsmarkannma_: aseigo's blog requires invites for reading, btw
09:30.03annma_for reading?
09:30.06sandsmarkyeah
09:30.12annma_reading what?
09:30.13sandsmarkthat's why I was a bit upset =/
09:30.16sandsmarkthe blog
09:30.23annma_you cannot read the blog?
09:30.29*** join/#kde neuzo (n=kvirc@81-208-83-236.fastres.net)
09:30.32EruaranNot without an invite
09:30.57friedrich|what is the "ForgingSeed" in kdmrc about?
09:30.58sandsmarkannma_: nope
09:31.00annma_so it's not on planet anymore?
09:31.04annma_I see it
09:31.10tictricit is
09:31.16annma_so
09:31.29annma_it is but it is invisible for you?
09:31.31sandsmarkannma_: the planet will probably not get new posts from his blog, or?
09:31.40sandsmarkannma_: try aseigo.blogspot.com
09:31.41annma_ah OK
09:31.44bram85a big 'thanks' for our splendid community :/   thanks...
09:31.56Eruaran:(
09:31.57Rioting_pacifistits still on planet for me but i cant view the actuall pages
09:32.10*** join/#kde oberling (n=oberling@141.45.199.190)
09:32.23bram85the planet caches things
09:32.25tictricI also tried to read the comments on that particular one and decided that I still don't want a google account
09:32.39annma_tictric: that's another debate
09:32.46annma_can't you use OpenID?
09:32.49tictrictrue
09:33.16annma_well having to deal with blogs comments and endless nitpicks on bug reports is something
09:33.21tictriccould, I guess
09:33.54*** join/#kde Muad`dib (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
09:34.56annma_and if you know how one can move a blog from blogspot to something nnicer feel free to tell me tictric
09:35.11annma_at the time I started it there were no much alternatives
09:35.28tictricOh, I run my own wordpress installation on my own server
09:35.29annma_however I'd like not to lose the posts
09:35.37annma_tictric: well, I cannot do that
09:35.38Rioting_pacifistits a shame i quite liked his blogs, i think there was a bit of confusion between trolling and genuinly curious people who just didnt understand the new desktop thing, but then again i hadnt read it for a could of weeks
09:36.02Sputgoogle account doesn't help
09:36.09tictrictictric.net so to say :)
09:36.23annma_tictric: that does not answer my question
09:36.32tictricwhich question?
09:36.42annma_and if you know how one can move a blog from blogspot to something nnicer feel free to tell me tictric
09:37.17*** join/#kde mxttie|work (n=mxttie@bluecoat2.uzleuven.be)
09:37.24*** join/#kde liber (n=limpan@m83-188-202-185.cust.tele2.se)
09:37.43annma_I htink it's the whole Planet goal that is questioned, it started with this mad post from a guy once who bashed stuff
09:37.50tictricah, that one. Hmm ... I will
09:39.18*** join/#kde ccamacho (i=ccamacho@henryk09.AC.NCTU.edu.tw)
09:40.01tictriccan one make a dump from blogspot?
09:40.07thiago_homeI guess aseigo closed it for a short while
09:40.17thiago_homeI read his blog yesterday, including comments
09:41.08tictriclooks for faq
09:41.09ccamachoare we gonna have anytime soon a quick launch in kde 4.1? (I meant to add applications to the panel and run them from there)
09:41.33*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=half-Lef@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
09:41.37annma_ccamacho: a bar?
09:41.39*** join/#kde tempelhueter (n=gmr@91-65-9-24-dynip.superkabel.de)
09:41.47Half-Leftyo
09:41.52annma_what's the difference between having icons in the panel?
09:42.02annma_ccamacho: ^^
09:42.12*** join/#kde Muad`dib (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
09:42.21Half-LeftAnyone use quassel IRC?
09:42.27annma_konvi
09:42.36Sputdoes ^^
09:42.53Half-LeftHow do you even get it connnected?
09:42.53*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
09:42.57annmaccamacho: what's the difference between a quick launch and having icons in panel?
09:43.08ccamachoannma: you can call it a bar, dock, etc..
09:43.14SputHalf-Left: please join #quassel for support :)
09:43.22Half-Left:p
09:43.27annmawhy do you prefer it from icons in panel ccamacho?
09:45.02ccamachoicons in panel is also fine... as long as you don't have to display the menu or Alt+F2 eveytime you have to run an application
09:45.31annmacurrently you can get icons in panel
09:45.33bram85ccamacho: you can drag 'n drop apps from the menu to the desktop/panel
09:45.46annmaso you can create a panel with your prog in it
09:45.55annmaso you can create a panel with your icons progs in it
09:46.25*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
09:46.49*** part/#kde mazzachre (n=mazzachr@85.235.250.110)
09:47.16ccamachobram85: eveytime I do that and click the "icon" it sends me to kwriter...
09:47.24tictricdoesn't have any download or export function. Shoulda guessed it
09:49.18ccamachobram85: there are few apps that work in this way, for instance konqueror... but most of them, don't
09:49.51bram85it works for me... but i'm running trunk
09:50.31*** join/#kde shadok_ (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
09:51.12ccamachobram85: probably I have to create a .desktop for every application I wanna run like this... I just wonder where should I place those .desktop files
09:51.19damadaHi, in the latest openSUSE and Kubuntu releases, the kdepim packages are slightly broken: the IMAP groupware has to be enabled by manually editing kmailrc. Then, it works fine, but the contacts are shown in a wrong encoding. How can I make the umlauts to be properly displayed (not as two rectangles or two questionmarks)?
09:51.46bram85ccamacho: well, these desktop entries already exist, that's why they're in your menu
09:51.51liberhmmm. can someone using kde4.1 confirm a bug? When I surf in konqi i have no menubar (i disabled it). I often surf in full screen mode. When I do this and create a new tab and goes to that tab the menubar reappears
09:52.00damadasee here https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=398285 and here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/139433
09:52.35bram85liber: yep
09:52.52*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
09:53.32*** join/#kde Kanniball (n=fidalgo@av2-84-90-24-170.netvisao.pt)
09:53.41liberdang
09:53.45Kanniballhi!
09:54.11*** join/#kde dml (n=damien@lns-bzn-22-82-249-93-102.adsl.proxad.net)
09:54.11liberI'll have to try to use bugzilla... I always seem to screw up when I do that
09:54.13*** part/#kde ambro962 (n=ambro@BSN-77-101-149.dsl.siol.net)
09:54.45KanniballI remember to see an kde app, for backup user profiles, with settings for applications like amarok, firefox, etc... but I forgot the name... can anyone tell me?
09:55.38*** join/#kde pumphaus (n=pumphaus@p4FF77892.dip.t-dialin.net)
09:57.03*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
09:58.21*** join/#kde dizney (n=sidney@office.info.nl)
09:59.16*** join/#kde testi_ (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch)
09:59.21*** join/#kde phisphere (n=verner@iti.mees.ee)
09:59.28*** join/#kde m-lund (n=m-lund@0x573e4bb7.arcnxx16.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
09:59.55Half-Leftyay quassel
10:00.56*** join/#kde Aikawa (n=shingo@p5B0552E1.dip.t-dialin.net)
10:01.01*** join/#kde MetaMorfoziS (n=avr@3e44b173.adsl.enternet.hu)
10:01.16*** join/#kde ksvladimir (n=ksvladim@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru)
10:02.25Kanniballwell, the software I was searchig is kamion...
10:02.40Kanniballbut it seems dead..
10:03.16libera shame
10:03.23*** join/#kde hw (n=hw@p578b3905.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
10:04.29*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
10:04.34*** join/#kde _pete (n=pete@92.9.248.177)
10:05.32*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
10:05.37*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
10:06.19*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
10:07.15*** join/#kde allyourrejects (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
10:09.12*** join/#kde dagar (n=dagar@206-248-137-66.dsl.teksavvy.com)
10:15.06*** join/#kde Vortex375 (n=ich@p5B171A31.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
10:15.11*** join/#kde basanta (n=basanta@202.79.37.177)
10:16.06*** join/#kde polz (n=polz@cpe-90-157-213-131.dynamic.amis.net)
10:19.17Half-LeftWhats cooking peeps?
10:20.12*** join/#kde dmbkiwi (n=dmbkiwi@122-57-47-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz)
10:20.33*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
10:21.18kdepepoKanniball, Konserve?
10:21.42*** join/#kde dario_ (n=dario@81-208-91-225.ip.fastwebnet.it)
10:21.58chakie_workconserved cannibal? isn't that somehow cyclic?
10:22.28Kanniballkdepepo: does it support applications profiles (to save only the data that matters, and don't care for cache stuff for example)
10:23.39kdepepoKanniball, it was "app of the month" once ;)
10:23.39*** join/#kde igor_ (n=igor@77.28.24.161)
10:24.30sandsmarkkeep
10:24.55Kanniballsandsmark: I've checked keep, too
10:25.04sandsmarkkubuntu comes with keep as default
10:25.35sandsmarkKanniball: ivan kucic, the kamion dev, is still very active, though
10:25.39*** join/#kde hw (n=hw@p578b3905.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
10:25.41sandsmarkare you sure kamion is dead?
10:26.05keisangisomeone said my name ?
10:26.35Kanniballwell I've found the page, on sf.net, and there are some posts on the mailing lists... the last was in Feb.
10:27.01sandsmark*cukic
10:29.40*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
10:30.33*** join/#kde testi_ (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch)
10:31.28*** join/#kde arkanoid (n=arkanoid@exherbo/developer/arkanoid)
10:32.00*** join/#kde arkanoid (n=arkanoid@exherbo/developer/arkanoid)
10:32.43*** join/#kde aleksanteri (i=aleksant@adsl-85-157-236-142.regionline.fi)
10:32.45*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
10:33.46*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
10:35.16*** join/#kde HUNTER_byt1 (n=hunter@89.112.23.150)
10:37.12*** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@116.83-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
10:37.37aleksanterihmm. i'm trying out kde4 again; how do you disable that notification sound when a new window pops up ?
10:38.03cb400faleksanteri: systemsettings -> notifications .. .select kwin in combo box
10:38.06*** join/#kde MichaJ (n=michael@195.37.252.101)
10:38.16HUNTER_byt1I'd like to know where are Suspend and Hibernate? I can't find them in KDE 4. Distro: Kubuntu 8.4
10:38.44aleksanterioh there's that combobox, thanks cb400f
10:39.49cb400fHUNTER_byt1: you'd better ask about that in your distro channel..
10:40.14cb400fSUSE uses kde3 kpowersave
10:40.33cb400fguess those options should be avalailble in kickoff too
10:40.37*** join/#kde genta (n=genta@203.153.31.206)
10:41.49*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
10:43.25*** join/#kde hw_ (n=hw@p578b3905.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
10:44.15liberwell crap. I really really suck at reporting bugs at bugs.kde.org... this is like my third duplicate - even though I searched i good deal before I reported
10:44.57*** join/#kde bgmiki (n=miki@233-221.static.ikomline.net)
10:45.16*** join/#kde heinrich (n=heinrich@mnch-4d046319.pool.mediaWays.net)
10:45.17*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
10:45.39paloris_Jliber:   what was the url for the bug
10:46.10liberwell. it doesn't really matter now
10:46.53Half-Leftliber: Sometimes your not to know, it could be the same bug with a different description
10:46.58paloris_Jdoes it not get reported if it is a duplicate
10:47.22*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
10:47.35paloris_Jliber:  I have never reported a bug
10:48.04*** join/#kde harri_ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi)
10:48.08*** join/#kde tampakrap (n=homeboy@athedsl-266527.home.otenet.gr)
10:48.50Half-Leftpaloris_J: Get reporting then and find them :)
10:48.58liberpaloris_J: it gets closed...
10:50.10Half-Leftliber: What usually happens is you get added to the CC list for the actual bug, so you can watch it via email
10:50.35*** join/#kde lonran (n=lonran@80.174.15.126.dyn.user.ono.com)
10:50.58lonranhi everybody
10:51.07*** join/#kde mxttie|work (n=mxttie@bluecoat2.uzleuven.be)
10:51.21liberhello there
10:51.58*** join/#kde andy151 (n=andrew@sr-fw1.router.uk.clara.net)
10:52.26lonrani want to use gmail with kopete in kde4 so i have installed qca-tls, but even like that i keep getting the same ssl error when tryin to connect. any idea?
10:52.53andy151Hey Guys. Well done on 4.1 Beta 2, I'm using it now and it's really usable, I can see myself ditching 3.5.9 soon :)
10:53.05*** join/#kde starscalling (n=user@unaffiliated/starscalling)
10:53.33paloris_Jandy151:  Yes I am using it as well. It is really good
10:53.51andy151just have one question, will 4.1 final include applet positioning on panels? Or is that 4.2? If 4.2 (or later), is there a config file I can hack to position applets in the mean time?
10:54.02andy151I'm very impressed, compared to 4.0, a big jump!
10:54.19andy151from a user point of view anyway
10:54.20jazkaandy151: just remove them and add in a specific order
10:54.25jazkafor now
10:54.30andy151ah, left to right?
10:54.47andy151I'll give it a try :)
10:54.55cb400fandy151: if you drag them to a specific place from the selector you can place them too
10:55.12*** join/#kde hibread (n=hibread@124.189.242.157)
10:55.41andy151cb400f:  thanks, I've tried that but it doesn't quite get it right (and then gets repositioned on adding the next object)
10:56.00*** join/#kde tampakrap (n=homeboy@athedsl-266527.home.otenet.gr)
10:56.08Half-LeftWell I've done a mockup of how the icon positioning should be, have to see what if it gets some implementation
10:56.09cb400fhrm.. didn't try it on 4.1b2.. but it has worked for me on 4.0
10:56.31andy151it get's the order right, but the positioning just floats a bit
10:56.43andy151like it's trying to space all applets equally
10:57.28Half-Leftto late for 4.1 :/
10:58.20cb400fthere'll prolly be distro specific patches though
10:58.35cb400fSUSE already has it in 4.0.. patches will be moved to 4.1
10:59.01tuxicki heard suse actively contributes to kde?
10:59.43*** join/#kde krandi (n=andreas@nat/ibm/x-a208a911dffde2fb)
10:59.43andy151yeah, I thnk Suse do
11:00.03andy151here's to hoping it's in 4.1 final. That's my only critism so far, the rest looks superb
11:00.04cb400ftuxick: historically SUSE was always a KDE strong hold and major contributor.. http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Team
11:00.45*** part/#kde Eruaran (n=fuggster@183.110.208.203.cable.dyn.gex.ncable.com.au)
11:01.33*** join/#kde bluesceada_ (n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada)
11:01.55cb400ftuxick: kerry, knetworkmanager, kpowersave, sysinfo, kickofff etc. are suse creations
11:02.12tuxicknice
11:02.14Half-LeftNovell
11:02.44*** join/#kde HUNTER_byt1 (n=hunter@89.112.23.150)
11:02.51*** join/#kde Shadowcat (i=shadowca@80.216.48.53)
11:03.00andy151knetworkmanager in kde4 is great!
11:03.20andy151never had such hassle free wireless config
11:03.29*** join/#kde ELITE_x (n=elite@dsl54001F8B.pool.t-online.hu)
11:03.39HUNTER_byt1How do I know which version of KDE 4.x I'm using?
11:03.45sandsmarkandy151: where did you get it from?
11:03.53sandsmarkHUNTER_byt1: look under About in the Help menu
11:04.02cb400fHalf-Left: novell is a bunch of gnome users in the US.. SUSE in Nürnberg, Germany is still SUSE A.G... albeit it's a novell subsidiary
11:04.12andy151sandsmark: kubuntu's KDE 4.1 B2 packages
11:04.38sandsmarkandy151: are you sure it is the kde 4 networkmanager, or is it just the kde 3 one?
11:05.44Half-Leftcb400f:  GNOME devs work for Novell yes, where were all part of the samething, Xamian
11:05.51Half-LeftXimian*
11:06.03Half-Leftthey*
11:06.39*** join/#kde neliger (n=neliger@tigrou.etigris.com)
11:07.02Half-LeftIronically a KDE centric distro :p
11:07.38cb400feven more ironical according to rumours it was Nat Friedman that pushed novell to buy SUSE ;-)
11:07.59*** join/#kde aleksanteri (i=aleksant@adsl-85-157-236-142.regionline.fi)
11:08.06*** join/#kde Camu\ (n=camu@dsl-trebrasgw1-fe49fa00-96.dhcp.inet.fi)
11:08.23Half-Leftcb400f: yer, funny they didn't know what to do with it when they brought it :p
11:08.27cb400famerican gnomers and german/european kde users ... doesn't go down without friction ;-)
11:08.30Nylegood morning
11:08.36andy151sandsmark: not sure tbh, I will check
11:08.41Nyledoes kde have an ability to have animated wallpapers?
11:08.47Nyle3.5.9
11:09.11Half-LeftIf you call slideshow animating :)
11:09.12Nylewhat are some cool ways to use/arrage the desktop (I'm bored with the regular desktop bull
11:09.25NyleHalf-Left, I want a waterfall wallpaper
11:09.28Nyleanimated water
11:09.33Nyleknow of anything/
11:09.34Nyle?
11:09.37sandsmarkNyle: run xmatrix --root =)
11:09.51Nylenot matrix
11:09.52Nylethats lame
11:09.59Half-LeftNyle: Thers that compiz one
11:10.00sandsmarkyou're lame
11:10.02sandsmark=)
11:10.25NyleI'm sorry.  I didn't mean to ruin your entire day like that...with my lameness.
11:10.28Half-Leftxwinwrap or something like that
11:10.30Nyle;)
11:10.41NyleI use kde + compiz-confusion
11:10.54Nylefor the most part it works
11:10.59Half-LeftXRender rules
11:11.14Nylehalf left
11:11.16Half-LeftAnd no crappy nvidia driver
11:11.18Nyleis a quarter turn?
11:11.22*** part/#kde HUNTER_byt1 (n=hunter@89.112.23.150)
11:11.49Nyle90 degree angle?
11:11.54Half-Leftwhat?
11:12.04Nyle90*4=?
11:12.23Half-LeftWhat exactly are you refering to?
11:12.31*** join/#kde william (n=william@217.2.198-77.rev.gaoland.net)
11:13.07NyleHalf-Left, me gustas tu
11:13.27Half-LeftQuassel has no spell check so exposes him crap spelling
11:13.38Half-Lefthis*
11:13.50andy151sandsmark: it's knetworkmanager 3.5.9 :) I got confused as I only installed KDE on my laptop so it's all new to me :)
11:13.57sandsmark=P
11:14.03*** part/#kde william (n=william@217.2.198-77.rev.gaoland.net)
11:14.08Half-LeftI'm using nv driver, much better for 2d and XRedner in KDE4
11:14.16Half-LeftXRender*
11:14.17Half-Leftgah
11:14.25Half-Lefttypes slower
11:14.27*** join/#kde bluesceada_ (n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada)
11:14.29Nyleuses radeonhd + compiz confusion on debian sid
11:14.43sandsmarkuses intel + kwin =)
11:14.47sandsmarkon arch
11:15.00Nylexorg/mesa/radeonhd built from git
11:15.08aleksanteriuses nvidia geforce + kwin on debian lenny/experimental
11:15.09sandsmarkyeah, intel driver from git =)
11:15.10Nyle3d works flawlessly on radeon x1900xt
11:15.23Nyleno need for fglrx
11:15.46*** join/#kde tobias (n=tobias@141.44.228.56)
11:17.28*** join/#kde spaspavlov (n=spasadm@snote.inetg.bg)
11:18.54*** join/#kde anselmolsm (n=anselmol@201.82.105.195)
11:19.41tuxickflawless and radeon??
11:19.44tuxickthat's a new one
11:20.00tuxickgot a 2400 here, performance is pathetic
11:20.23tuxickotoh the open source driver worked ok on 9600
11:20.24annmatuxick: depends on the driver you use
11:20.38tuxickannma: there's not so much choice, am i missing one?
11:20.45annmatuxick: do not question other user statement
11:20.47tuxickfeels some hope
11:20.55annmaask your distro
11:21.16annmaor build yourself as Nyle said he did
11:21.21tuxickait-drivers or radeonhd
11:21.35annma<Nyle> xorg/mesa/radeonhd built from git
11:21.47annmahe said it
11:22.31tuxickoh well, there's lots of radeons :)
11:23.43Half-LeftXRender is slow at some effects, dont know why
11:25.03*** join/#kde hexx (n=hexx@ip081210072053.INTELINK.pl)
11:26.38*** part/#kde fil0 (n=hexx@ip081210072053.INTELINK.pl)
11:26.42aleksanterihmm
11:26.52aleksanteri4.00.82 isn't really the 4.1 beta isn't it? :)
11:27.34Half-Leftyes it is, 83 is beta2
11:28.09aleksanterioh
11:29.13*** join/#kde alionakuz (n=alionaku@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru)
11:30.44Half-LeftI've got to say, Quassel rocks
11:31.50*** join/#kde kakalto (n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-53.ps.net.nz)
11:32.23liberHalf-Left: shame it is not in the ubuntu repos
11:32.41Half-Leftliber: It;s in the backports
11:33.37liberHalf-Left: meaning?
11:33.55Half-LeftJust enable backports int he package manager
11:34.03liberah
11:34.47liberdone :)
11:35.09*** join/#kde miller_t_ (n=miller_t@64.74.112.16)
11:35.40*** join/#kde moenicke (n=moenicke@unaffiliated/moenicke)
11:36.26*** join/#kde DanielW (n=danielw@f050065131.adsl.alicedsl.de)
11:37.06*** join/#kde GeneralCluster (n=imr@vil93-1-81-57-208-69.fbx.proxad.net)
11:37.45*** join/#kde frothir (n=frode@61.80-202-31.nextgentel.com)
11:37.50*** join/#kde wq (n=wq@123.151.130.58)
11:38.24*** join/#kde MoRpHeUz (n=morphbr@200.184.118.132)
11:39.05*** join/#kde moenicke (n=moenicke@193.120.116.183)
11:39.24*** join/#kde Ange|us (n=demon@c71-25.i07-18.onvol.net)
11:46.01*** join/#kde BCMM (n=bcmm@unaffiliated/bcmm)
11:51.20*** join/#kde pumphaus (n=pumphaus@p4FF77892.dip.t-dialin.net)
11:51.59*** join/#kde phisphere (n=verner@iti.mees.ee)
11:52.39cgahi, i compile kde4 with kdesvn-build. how do i get all the plasmoids?
11:53.53bram85cga: look for the kdeplasmoids module.. i wonder if kdesvn-build is aware of it, since the module was introduced recently
11:53.57Half-Leftkdeplasmoids
11:55.07*** join/#kde liber (n=quassel@m83-188-202-185.cust.tele2.se)
11:55.09*** join/#kde tinin (n=tinin@25.Red-88-8-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
11:55.10*** join/#kde ELITE_x (n=elite@dsl54001F8B.pool.t-online.hu)
11:56.14*** join/#kde J-23_ (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl)
11:56.23cgathanks bram85 Half-Left . is it in extragears?
11:56.47bram85no, it's in /trunk/KDE
11:57.03*** join/#kde vip (n=vip@pld-linux/vip)
11:57.38*** join/#kde juanra (n=juanra@193.152.242.139)
11:57.40*** join/#kde liber (n=quassel@m83-188-202-185.cust.tele2.se)
11:58.22*** join/#kde d1zzy (n=dizzy@unaffiliated/developer)
11:58.33d1zzyany dedicated channel for kdeutils/klaptopdaemon discussion?
11:59.23DanielWcga: you can add kdeplasmoids to kdesvn-build
11:59.57cgaDanielW, oh nice =) how?  io was looking on techbase but i can't find
12:00.14*** part/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
12:00.17*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
12:00.33*** join/#kde liber (n=limpan@m83-188-202-185.cust.tele2.se)
12:00.56cgaDanielW, module kdeplasmoids \ end module ?
12:01.28DanielWyes that is everything
12:02.07cgacool thanks
12:02.42DanielWthere are even more plasmoids in  playground (but that will not work with kdesvnbuild)  and on kde-looks.org
12:03.57d1zzyon my latop while reading /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance works fine (and setting various frequencies using cpufreg sysfs interface works fine) it does not work (errors with EIO) to set the performance profile using echo X > /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/performance
12:04.12d1zzyI've made a patch for klaptopdaemon that uses the sysfs cpufreq interface instead
12:04.15DanielWcga: if yo do not know: you can say  kdesvn-build  to only build kdeplasmoids (as you have build the others already) with kdesvn-build kdeplasmoids
12:04.36d1zzymy understanding is also that the /proc/acpi interface is obsolete now in the recent kernels so maybe klaptopdaemon should switch to the sysfs cpufreq interface?
12:04.43cgaDanielW, i was tryiong that but it fails
12:05.14DanielWcga: well you must first add it to the config file
12:05.23cgadone already
12:05.34cgait says it can't find a snapshot
12:05.37*** join/#kde webustany (n=webustan@nat/mandriva/x-f2ffcbdb72e88241)
12:05.41DanielWcga: that is no problem
12:05.44cgabut then it compiles anyway
12:05.48cgano?
12:05.56webustanyhi
12:06.10DanielWit tries to fetch a snapshot from the kde ftp server.  to reduce the load on the svn servers
12:06.12webustanydoes someone know how to move widgets in the taskbar in KDE4 svn ?
12:06.13cgaDanielW, what's --reconfigure for?
12:06.15J-23hmm
12:06.19webustanythey're all messed up
12:06.22webustany(since my last logout)
12:06.30J-23my KDE 4.00.83 clears panel when I'm logging out
12:06.33*** join/#kde Aleks` (n=aleks@79.126.197.16)
12:06.46DanielWcga: it will recall "cmake" for every module
12:06.55DanielWwebustany: you can not move them
12:07.20webustanyDanielW: wow nice... And what do I do when the K button decided to go on the far right of the bar ?
12:07.21cga*yet
12:07.22DanielWwebustany: you could reset your plasma config by stopping plasma (kquitapp  plasma) and then delete the plasma config file and restart plama OR
12:08.09DanielWwebustany: you can remove the kmenu button  and then readd it it by drag ond drop from the add wigets dialog. then you can chose the position of it by dragging it to the right place
12:08.15DanielWd1zzy: mhh
12:08.27webustanyDanielW: I'm going to try the drag & drop stuff, thanks
12:08.36*** join/#kde paloris-J (n=paloris_@202.150.121.111)
12:09.18DanielWd1zzy: klaptop daemon is not yet ported to kde4.  i think it will not get ported, but there will someday come a replace for it.
12:09.28*** join/#kde Yagami (n=iori@unaffiliated/yagami)
12:09.31*** join/#kde loctar (n=eldadroo@ip245-128-173-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
12:09.32webustanyDanielW: thanks, it "solved" my problem
12:09.34Yagamihi
12:10.51DanielWand there is no active development on 3.5  only maintance (bug fixing) and so on.  but if you think that your patch fixes a bug, mail it to the devel ml and maybe it gets included for 3.5.10 (when ever that gets released)
12:10.52d1zzyDanielW: my patch is for klaptopdaemon 3.5.9
12:11.11*** join/#kde anselmolsm (n=anselmol@201.82.105.195)
12:11.13*** join/#kde UninformdLuddite (n=Uninform@121.216.119.102)
12:11.18d1zzyDanielW: the real bug is probably in the kernel /proc/acpi interface combined with my hardware (I supose it should work on others)
12:12.00d1zzyso I guess that means no chance to get this into kde, no problem, just asked, I can live happy with having it in portage overlay as a local patch
12:12.03UninformdLudditei have only had a brief look at KDE 4.0 and currently run 3.somethingorother! Is it possible to use the old style menu system rather than that new thing?
12:12.22*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
12:12.36DanielWUninformdLuddite: it is possible in 4.1 (beta 2)
12:13.09YagamiUninformdLuddite: just use the other menu plasmoid ( add plasma elements )
12:13.37*** join/#kde Pliskin (n=pliskin@adsl-152-215-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma)
12:13.37UninformdLudditeMaybe it's just me but I didn;t like it and thought it wa a bit kludgy
12:13.46DanielWyou can just right click on it and select "switch to classics menu style"
12:14.07UninformdLudditeits called kickoff right?
12:14.08YagamiDanielW: thats on kde3 i think
12:14.19DanielWUninformdLuddite: well i do not like the way you browse the applications in it, but i really like the search and favorite featue in it
12:14.20Yagamion kde4 there are 2 menu plasmoids , one kickoff , one oldstyle
12:14.23*** join/#kde ris (n=ris@cpc2-bedn1-0-0-cust122.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
12:14.23DanielWYagami: and on 4.1
12:14.36YagamiDanielW: not on my 4.1
12:14.40DanielWjust right click  and switch style.
12:14.51DanielWYagami: you are really using 4.1 and not 4.0.x?
12:15.02UninformdLudditei honestly havent had the oppurtunity to give it a good explore. I will install it when the stable release goes public and is hand rolled for my distro
12:15.16UninformdLudditedcop is gone isnt it?
12:15.24DanielWits gone. replaced by dbus
12:15.31UninformdLudditesame sort of thing?
12:16.07DanielWyes, but  its not only used in kde but also in gnome and others des/wms  and other apps uses it too
12:16.07UninformdLudditemakes me sentimental for *corcom
12:16.20UninformdLudditethats good
12:16.20YagamiDanielW: yep , beta2 actually
12:16.43DanielWYagami: so just click right on the kmenu  and there should be that option "switch to classic style menu"
12:16.56DanielWon the button
12:16.59DanielWin the panel
12:17.02DanielWthe K
12:17.04d1zzythere is a typo on the kde.org main page about beta 2 release:
12:17.22d1zzyOn 24th June 2008, The KDE Community released KDE 4.1 Beta 2, aimed at testers, community members and enthusiasts in order to identify bugs and regressions, so that 4.1 can fully replace KDE 3 for end users. KDE 4.1 beta 1 is available as binary packages for a wide range of platforms, and as source packages.
12:17.34YagamiDanielW: there isnt , its just a menu plasmoid
12:17.35d1zzybeta 1 is available as binary packages? :)
12:18.26DanielWd1zzy: kde itself does not provide binary packages. so that depends on your distro
12:18.51Yagamid1zzy: which distro are you using ?
12:18.51*** join/#kde nielsvm (n=niels@a82-95-23-27.adsl.xs4all.nl)
12:18.53DanielWfor ubuntu/kubutu there are. for archlinux too, i heard about debian packages.
12:18.54*** join/#kde Thundercloud (n=thunderc@resnet13.nat.lancs.ac.uk)
12:19.27DanielWYagami: uh can not understand it. it is here and was here for some months
12:19.49YagamiDanielW: :)
12:19.55*** join/#kde tafsen (n=tafsen@44.80-203-75.nextgentel.com)
12:20.09JucatoYagami: are your widgets locked?
12:20.12d1zzyin the kde 4.1 beta 2 announcement it says that kde 4.1 beta 1 binary packages are available
12:20.16d1zzyisn't that a typo?
12:20.20*** join/#kde mapomapo (n=mapomapo@85-18-136-73.fastres.net)
12:20.20d1zzyor am I the only one reading it
12:20.46Jucatod1zzy: could be a typo or un-updated text, but doesn't make the sentence false :)
12:20.48haysbuild from svn..  it puts hair on your chest
12:21.03YagamiJucato: yes , why ?
12:21.06DanielWYagami: http://arch.der-winti.de/kde/kmenu.png
12:21.13mapomapohi all!
12:21.16YagamiJucato: yep  thats it
12:21.22YagamiDanielW: sorry , you are right
12:21.23JucatoYagami: that's why
12:21.32Yagamiit must be with elements unlocked
12:21.38Yagamisorry sorry sorry
12:21.42Jucatonods
12:21.46Jucato:)
12:22.29d1zzykdeutils in general will be rewriten as oposed to being ported or just klaptopdaemon has some design flaw that it makes it pointless to be ported?
12:23.00d1zzyI find klaptopdaemon pretty useful, works nice and dandy (well except that /proc/acpi issue which is mostly a kernel fault with my hw combo)
12:23.26*** join/#kde Aleks` (n=aleks@79.126.197.16)
12:23.31Jucatod1zzy: kdeutils is made up of numerous apps with different maintainers. it's kinda hard to make a generalization that it (everything in the module) will be rewritten in general
12:23.59Jucatoit's up to each app developer (team) to decide on that one. you can probably try contacting klaptop's
12:24.24d1zzyJucato: I failed to find the homepage of the klaptopdaemon team, can you help?
12:24.55Jucatod1zzy: look in klaptopdaemon's Help -> About <name of app>... usually the authors/maintainers would be there
12:25.05Jucatonot every KDE app has a webpage
12:25.09*** join/#kde _Infinity_ (n=infinity@78-0-156-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr)
12:25.33d1zzythere is no menu, thus no about :)
12:25.47d1zzyit's only a tray icon and a kontrol module
12:26.32Jucatono right-click menu?
12:26.47Jucatoor in the source code, there would be an AUTHORS file
12:27.24d1zzyseems there is a single author for it, will contact him, thanks for the AUTHORS sugestion
12:28.12tictrichey, could there be an easy explanation why activating strigi in systemsettings beta2 shows no effekt?
12:28.22tictricLike it's not implemented yet? :)
12:28.31*** join/#kde hexx (n=hexx@ip081210072053.INTELINK.pl)
12:28.38Jucatotictric: try running it from the command line and find out (strigidaemon I think)
12:28.43*** part/#kde hexx (n=hexx@ip081210072053.INTELINK.pl)
12:29.12*** join/#kde oberling (n=oberling@brln-4db8085d.pool.einsundeins.de)
12:29.37*** join/#kde ozymandias (n=chapinj@12-219-28-217.client.mchsi.com)
12:29.39Yagamii woundt recommend enabling strigi
12:29.47*** join/#kde hunt0r (n=hunt0r@dslb-088-064-053-215.pools.arcor-ip.net)
12:29.59Yagamieverytime i enable strigi , a few hours later , i have no hard disk left ( and i usually have 10 GB free )
12:30.03*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
12:30.35Jucatostrigi for KDE 3 or 4?
12:30.58tictricJucato: kde4
12:31.35Jucatotictric: I was asking Yagami, sorry
12:32.36YagamiJucato: kde4 , sorry
12:32.41tictricIf I start strigi from kde3 in konqueror it starts indexing
12:32.41YagamiJucato: was a little away
12:32.59tictricIt shows then strigi running in kde4 systemsettings
12:33.11tictricI enable strigi search there
12:33.45tictricstrigi shows no activity anymore and green light says strigi not running
12:34.06*** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner)
12:34.08tictricare kde3 and kde4 strigi incompatible?
12:35.21thiago_homethere's no KDE 3 strigi
12:35.57Jucatothiago_home: a.k.a. the version of strigi Kubuntu shipped with that works with KDE 3 (presuming it worked)
12:36.06Jucatoold version I think
12:36.33stdinI'm not sure that strigi ever "worked"
12:36.46Jucatoshrugs
12:36.49tictricwell from what I observe it behaves like that on my machine
12:37.00d1zzyJucato: the people in AUTHORS are the current active maintainers or they are just the person who originally written that component and when it got merged into kdeutils they are maintained by some core kdeutils people?
12:37.09tictricstdin got a point :)
12:37.55Jucatod1zzy: I think it's usually updated
12:37.56tictricI'm using beagle still which doesn't keep me from experimenting sometimes
12:37.56*** join/#kde nielsvm_ (n=niels@a82-95-23-27.adsl.xs4all.nl)
12:37.56*** join/#kde mib_wyrty7rk (i=5431732d@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3322e14bc9ffcbd0)
12:38.04mib_wyrty7rkhttp://www.yeargh.com/53-fathers-day-cards-banned-in-scottish-schools.html War is peace!
12:38.17d1zzyok
12:39.00JucatoDblSpeak: and this has relation to KDE how?
12:39.31*** join/#kde root (n=root@196.207.231.67)
12:39.36d1zzythere are scottish fathers in the kde team
12:39.40*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
12:39.51d1zzy:)
12:39.54*** join/#kde Worf (n=worf@84.119.56.20)
12:39.58Jucatonice try. but no
12:39.59DblSpeakI'm just spreading the good word. I'm a high priest of the religion of political correctness. If you disagree with me I'll have police investigate you for hate crime.
12:40.05Half-Leftlol
12:40.21sandsmarkDblSpeak: vive la retardation?
12:40.34JucatoDblSpeak: sure. but until then. keep the offtopic out. there's #kde-chat for that
12:40.45DblSpeakThat sounds like hateful, vile, bigoted, discriminatory hate speech
12:41.27sandsmarkand you express yourself like a sarcastic commie =P
12:41.43stdinI'm a member of the "don't give a crap" church, you are discriminating against my religion by posting things and expecting me to give a crap
12:41.45Jucatoenough of that
12:41.55sandsmarkstdin: ++
12:42.18sandsmarkI'm not a father, and I'm not scottish, but I do like plasma =)
12:42.28DblSpeakI detect hate mongers in this sector. Scotty, file the reports.
12:42.29*** join/#kde LnxSlck (n=LnxSlck@bl4-245-42.dsl.telepac.pt)
12:43.03pinotreeDblSpeak: i detect a troll here: YOU
12:43.18*** mode/#kde [+o Jucato] by ChanServ
12:43.27d1zzyeh
12:43.29pinotreeDblSpeak: "freenode" does NOT imply you can spread your stuff everywhere
12:43.31*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
12:43.35Half-LeftHere it comes
12:43.37d1zzy"spread"
12:43.48*** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ
12:44.12DblSpeakYou are currently participating in a hateful, bigoted attack on my identity and indeed upon tolerance itself
12:44.27d1zzyI think it's a bot
12:44.34DblSpeakStop the discrimination against people who identify as trolls!
12:44.39DblSpeakBull!
12:44.48sandsmarkDblSpeak: I like turtles!
12:44.59sandsmarkDblSpeak: and so?
12:45.09JucatoDblSpeak: this is not a channel for your political or social views
12:45.12Jucatoso enough
12:45.26pinotreeDblSpeak: you don't understand: i do not care about what you ARE, but about what you DO in here
12:45.28Jucatoyou want to express them? go to ##politics or ##offtopic or wherever it is appropriate
12:45.47pinotreeDblSpeak: NOW, you are doing the troll, period.
12:45.53sandsmark#not-physics is also good for this =)
12:46.00*** join/#kde engineer (n=marinept@unaffiliated/engineer)
12:46.11*** join/#kde lemma (n=lemma@dslb-088-066-055-229.pools.arcor-ip.net)
12:46.13pinotreeDblSpeak: you ae kindly invited to bring your own stuff (that has NOTHING to do with THIS channel) elsewhere
12:46.26DblSpeakI am hurt by this atmosphere of intolerance and bigotry.
12:46.35Jucatoright... I've had enough
12:46.39*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
12:46.40*** mode/#kde [+b *!*@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-3322e14bc9ffcbd0] by Jucato
12:46.43*** kick/#kde [DblSpeak!n=Jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] by Jucato (Jucato)
12:46.49*** mode/#kde [-o Jucato] by ChanServ
12:46.52Half-LeftBy, by :p
12:46.56haysdances a jig.
12:46.59pinotreethat mask won't be enough, sadly
12:47.16sandsmarkJucato: you should remove the ban rather quickly, it's a generic web irc client
12:47.17Jucatounfortunately
12:47.22tech9inerlmao...
12:47.23stdinban the ident
12:47.27stdin(hex encoded IP)
12:47.38pinotreenot even
12:47.40*** mode/#kde [+o Jucato] by ChanServ
12:47.43tech9inernotes the nick.. clearly troll'ic by design
12:49.00tech9inerone more bored teenager.. perhaps preteen with no parent monitoring... forces Jucato & pinotree to earn their ahem.. salaries here.. not.. ;]]
12:49.31*** join/#kde TWD (n=david@ip-90.net-81-220-2.versailles.rev.numericable.fr)
12:49.46*** join/#kde Barbelos (n=henrik@227.80-203-25.nextgentel.com)
12:51.41*** part/#kde oberling (n=oberling@brln-4db8085d.pool.einsundeins.de)
12:51.52d1zzyor a social researcher wanting to see the average time it takes to get a ban on the various community channels
12:51.57*** mode/#kde [-o pinotree] by pinotree
12:51.58d1zzyI knew once someone that was doing that
12:52.12Jucatoright. let's just drop the subject
12:52.16*** mode/#kde [-o Jucato] by ChanServ
12:52.32*** join/#kde sabayonlive-2951 (n=sabayonu@dzd234.internetdsl.tpnet.pl)
12:52.50BarbelosDoes flash work with Konqueror in KDE 4.0.5?
12:53.15sandsmarkworks for me (tm)
12:53.17sandsmarkbut ymmv
12:53.35sandsmarkor, maybe not 4.0.5, but in the betas at least =)
12:53.44TWDworks for me too (that said, im on trunc)
12:54.07Jucatoin short, it may not be working in 4.0 but does in 4.1
12:54.15*** join/#kde dwins (n=david@64.90.184.79.static.nyinternet.net)
12:54.32sandsmarkJucato: thanks =)
12:55.02Barbelossandsmark: Are you using packages for your distro, and in that case which one?
12:55.39*** join/#kde annma (n=annma@AToulouse-256-1-25-56.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr)
12:55.50sandsmarkBarbelos: I use Arch Linux, and using the packages from http://www.kdemod.ath.cx/bbs/viewtopic.php?id=782 (it is out of date, the latest available are 8.0.83), and please come to #shaman-arch if you want more info =)
12:56.21Jucatogood :)
12:56.24BarbelosHmm... Ok. Not much help to me, but interesting to know it works for some at least
12:56.33sandsmarkBarbelos: what distro are you on?
12:56.42sandsmarkmost provide 4.1 beta packages
12:56.45JucatoBarbelos: he did mention that he was on trunk (a.k.a. NOT 4.0.5... so...)
12:57.21Barbelossandsmark: opensuse 11 - I know there are 4.1 beta packages for it, so maybe I should try that. Was a bit rough around the edges last time I tried though
12:57.36BarbelosJucato: Yeah, just realized he meant trunk, heh
12:57.38sandsmarkBarbelos: it has improved a lot the last couple of releases, imho
12:57.44*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
12:57.49sandsmarkmuch better than 4.0
12:57.54*** join/#kde SMParrish (n=steven@cpe-069-134-255-095.nc.res.rr.com)
12:58.06sandsmarkso much that I have removed 3.5 completely =)
12:58.13_Infinity_is there a rpm to install 4.1?
12:58.26BarbelosWell, I like the new features of trunk - so maybe I should see if the OpenSUSE packages are semi-stable now
12:58.34annma_Infinity_: ask your distro channel please
12:58.34Jucato_Infinity_: please ask in your distro's channel
12:58.39sandsmark=)
12:58.42annma:)
12:58.47annmatwin speakers
12:58.52_Infinity_:D
12:58.53sandsmarkhere, annma pwned Jucato =)
12:59.02Half-LeftTo many cooks now :p
12:59.04*** join/#kde zenstar (n=zenstar@ip72-205-197-164.sb.sd.cox.net)
12:59.06sandsmark:P
12:59.12annma:)
12:59.21Jucatodoesn't really matter who was first. we thought the same is all that matters
12:59.24Jucato:)
12:59.44sandsmarkJucato: nono, here in norway it is customary that you buy a bottle of Coca Cola to the other person =)
13:00.01Jucatohere, it's customary to just knock on woo
13:00.04Jucatod
13:00.06sandsmark=P
13:00.07Jucatooops.. dropped my 'd'
13:00.29*** join/#kde SkoroWork (n=kevin@mountaineer.skoroworld.com)
13:01.25zenstarin KDE4 is there a way to highlight multiple widgets at once to delete them off plasma desktop?
13:01.50SkoroWorkhey, I've got a konsole related question...  I just recently upgraded from Fedora 7 to 9, and in the process it seems that konsole changed quite a bit.  In particular I'm noticing a lot of differences with the profile stuff
13:02.22SkoroWorkI used to be able to setup what the old konsole called a "Profile" which was a group of sessions, and I could instruct it to load that profile on launch, and it would spawn all of the sessions for me
13:02.28Jucato(yes.. a lot has changed between KDE 3 and KDE 4 Konsole...)
13:02.33Half-Leftzenstar: Hold down Ctrl in the Add widets menu
13:02.42SkoroWorkis that functionality still there and I just can't find it?  or is it gone?
13:03.24annmaSkoroWork: Settings -> Edit current profiles
13:03.39annmaSettings -> Manage profiles
13:03.52SkoroWorkwell that will help me change settings for the individual profiles, but how do I load a group of them all at once?
13:03.56annmahave a look in there please
13:04.07fishsponge_is there any widget that i can put on a Panel to show me CPU/Memory/Network/Disk Usage graphs? like ksysguard in KDE3.5 ?
13:04.07annmaload a group of profiles?
13:04.12fishsponge_i'm using KDE4, of course
13:04.23annmafishsponge_: ksysguard is in kde4
13:04.38annmabut there's no widget yet fo rit
13:04.39zenstarHalf-Left: I mean icons, in gnome I could highligh a bunch of icons and select a file operation such as delete, copy/paste etc.. in KDE4 when you click on one icon on the desktop it gives you the option "Remove this Icon".. how do you do that for multiple icons without having to repeate the task for each individual folder
13:04.44sandsmarkfishsponge_: I have a system monitor applet
13:04.47sandsmark*plasmoid
13:04.55sandsmarkit might come from extragear or something
13:05.03SkoroWorkannma: yes.  in kde3 konsole a "Profile" was actually a group of "sessions" I guess, you could save a snapshot of all the open tabs, and when you loaded that Profile again all of those tabs would be re-opened
13:05.17*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
13:05.23^^MAg^^how stable is kde 4.1 beta ?
13:05.25SkoroWorkit seems that the nomenclature has been changed a bit such that a "profile" is now a single session
13:05.34sandsmark^^MAg^^: very, for me =)
13:05.34annma^^MAg^^: as a beta!!!
13:05.37^^MAg^^I mean is this worth installing and testing
13:05.38sandsmarkI use it as my main desktop
13:05.41SkoroWorkI get that, but I'm just trying to find out if the old functionality is still intact
13:05.57^^MAg^^hehe seems to have a good PR and uderstanding here ;-)
13:05.59annmaa beta is for testing Mag and change the ^ in your nick
13:06.13annmayou have an unfriendly nick Mag
13:06.36annmaSkoroWork: did you try it or do you want me to look?
13:06.39zenstarI agree
13:06.49^^MAg^^It's just my nick, have this for years and I am really frienly sometimes :>
13:06.49annmaSkoroWork: I don't understand if you are curious or complaining
13:06.51*** join/#kde lsobral (n=sobral@200.184.118.132)
13:06.53sandsmarkannma: I think konversation is able to tabcomple just on mag =)
13:06.57sandsmark*complete
13:07.11annmanope
13:07.15annmamagyar_:
13:07.28SkoroWorkannma: I'm using it right now, and I am unable to find the functionality.  I'm trying to find out if it has moved or has been REmoved
13:07.48Half-Leftzenstar: Folder View lets you to that if you set ti to desktop
13:07.58Half-Leftdo*
13:08.24zenstarHalf-Left: How do I get into Folder View mode?
13:08.41Half-Leftzenstar: 4.1?
13:08.51zenstarHalf-Left: Yes
13:08.56annmaSkoroWork: I think it does not work
13:09.10*** join/#kde alterf (n=alterf@dynamic-62-87-147-213.ssp.dialog.net.pl)
13:09.17annmaSkoroWork: I tested a profile with 2 tabs, profile named annma and set it as default
13:09.25annmaSkoroWork: it is not loaded at start
13:09.28Camu\hey, when i set to open konqueror when i put cd to computers cd-drive. how can i reset that option?
13:09.35Camu\you know what i mean?
13:09.38Half-Leftzenstar: Folder view is a plasmoid widget
13:09.56sandsmarkCamu\: kde 3 or 4?
13:10.00Camu\kde 3
13:10.09*** join/#kde devnet (n=devnet@66.192.95.199)
13:10.19Camu\thought they aren't that much different
13:10.23Camu\so i didn't tell that
13:10.36sandsmarkCamu\: it is somewhere in kcontrol
13:10.40sandsmark=)
13:10.42zenstarHalf-Left: Where can I find it? Under add widget?
13:10.43Camu\:D
13:10.44Half-Leftzenstar: Baically what you can do with it is set ti to your Desktop folder and put you icons there
13:10.45annmaSkoroWork: I guess a bug report is needed, I checked to find the devel but he is not there
13:10.47JucatoKControl -> Peripherals -> Storage Media
13:10.50Half-Leftyes
13:10.58Camu\thanks
13:11.11annmaSkoroWork: if I define a profile and if i set it as default, is it meant to load at start?
13:11.14sandsmarkdamn, beaten to the punch :P
13:11.26zenstarHalf-Left: I don't see anything listed as Folder View
13:12.01Half-LeftThen either you dont have 4.1 or the widgets
13:12.27SkoroWorkannma: no, it was a command line option, I could specify a profile name to launch with, and it would load up all of the tabs I had saved
13:12.32alterfdoes anybody know any pages with regard to nvidia geeforce 7 series + kde 4?
13:12.52zenstarHalf-Left: Actually It's 4.0.4, sorry
13:12.54Half-Leftalterf: Pages?
13:13.02alterfwebsites?
13:13.04Half-Leftzenstar: 4.1 only sorry
13:13.16Half-Leftalterf: In what regard?
13:13.32zenstarHalf-Left: Which repo do I have to add to get 4.1? Using opensuse 11
13:13.58Half-Leftzenstar: Ask your distro channel, I dont use Opensuse
13:14.14annmaSkoroWork: so Default profile does nothing?
13:14.23annmasave as default does nothing?
13:14.29*** join/#kde guaxinim (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim)
13:14.34zenstarHalf-Left: Thanks, I'll ask
13:14.35annmaanyway konsole --profile annma doe snot load it
13:14.47alterfHalf-Left kde just works to slow with nvidia driver for me
13:14.59Jucatoalterf: nothing specific for the driver, but in general: http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin
13:15.08Jucato(specially with kwin effects)
13:15.26Half-Leftalterf: Yes, it's a know issue with the nvidia driver
13:15.55Half-Leftalterf: If you dont use 3d then use the nv driver, it's much faster for 2d and XRender
13:16.04alterffor now there are no solutions for that?
13:16.07alterfok
13:16.10*** part/#kde SkoroWork (n=kevin@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/Skorobeus)
13:16.31annmaok not very helpful
13:17.05Half-Leftalterf: It's sharper, faster and you can use kwin effects
13:17.27alterfHalf-Left thx, i will try  it
13:17.29annmasighs
13:18.29sandsmarkgives annma a cup of cacao
13:18.57annmais drinking a COca
13:19.02annmacafeine!!!
13:19.10sandsmark=D=D=D
13:19.22Half-LeftI like my coffee to
13:19.29Camu\coffee <33
13:19.42Half-LeftDont give me cheao stuff either
13:19.48Half-Leftcheap*
13:19.57sandsmarkI've never learned to drink coffee
13:20.00sandsmarkI blame my parents
13:20.02sandsmark=)
13:20.41*** join/#kde fldc (i=fldc@c-7766e255.88-8-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
13:20.58Half-LeftNew Sim-glow update is really nice
13:21.56Half-LeftWhen the scroll bar is fixed I'll be really happy :)
13:22.24*** join/#kde mchavezg (n=miguel@189.164.32.83)
13:23.02*** join/#kde fishsponge_ (n=fishspon@212.44.16.158)
13:23.46fishsponge_annma: does ksysguard have an applet/widget that can sit in a Panel though?
13:24.04fishsponge_sandsmark: does your system monitor applet work in KDE4, or is it a KDE3.5 applet?
13:24.14sandsmarkkde 4
13:24.29sandsmarkit didn't work too well on the panel, though, it expanded too much
13:24.36*** join/#kde fldc (i=fldc@c-7766e255.88-8-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
13:24.42annmafishsponge_: not yet for ksysguard
13:25.18fishsponge_sandsmark: if i want to try it, where can i find it?
13:25.37sandsmarkdunno, it came with the other plasmoids
13:25.41sandsmarkyou using 4.1?
13:25.50sandsmark(beta 2 or something?)
13:26.09*** join/#kde lithrem (n=lithrem@ppp-36-228.grapevine.net.au)
13:26.51Half-Leftdoes some artwork
13:26.58fishsponge_sandsmark: i'm using whatever is the latest available through openSUSE 11.0 online updates
13:27.11sandsmarkfishsponge_: well, I have no idea how opensuse works =)
13:27.30sandsmarkfishsponge_: I just know that I clicked on "add applets", and dragged out some various system monitoring ones =)
13:27.33fishsponge_i think i'm on 4.0 basically
13:27.36sandsmarkcpu, memory, temperature, the normal ones
13:27.39fishsponge_if 4.1 is in Beta, then i'm probably not on it
13:27.44sandsmarkI use 4.0.83
13:27.47fishsponge_that's all i want - cpu, memory, temperature
13:27.54fishsponge_network would also be nice, but not important
13:28.01sandsmarkI do have network =)
13:28.29*** join/#kde testi_ (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch)
13:28.37*** join/#kde Oxyd00m_ (n=Oxyd00m@host242-204-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
13:30.47*** join/#kde dml (n=damien@lns-bzn-40-82-251-179-41.adsl.proxad.net)
13:31.56fishsponge_what package name should i look for to find out the version number of KDE?
13:32.35fishsponge_i have "kde4-kwin-4.0.4-24.2" and "kdebase4-session-4.0.4-6.1" if that helps
13:32.48dwinsfishsponge_: you can just run any kde app with --version
13:33.23_Infinity_fishsponge_: you most likely have 4.0.4
13:33.24fishsponge_KDE: 4.0.4 (KDE 4.0.4 >= 20080505) "release 15.1"
13:33.43fishsponge_how would i get to that applet/widget if i had the right version?
13:34.45sandsmarkask in #opensuse
13:34.50sandsmarkI don't know how they package it
13:37.28*** join/#kde tobias (n=tobias@p57AD37CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:38.18*** join/#kde SMParrish (n=quassel@cpe-069-134-255-095.nc.res.rr.com)
13:39.46*** join/#kde fldc (i=fldc@c-7766e255.88-8-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
13:42.03*** join/#kde milian (n=milian@p4FC12FB1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
13:42.06*** join/#kde xijiao (n=epocher@59.77.243.199)
13:42.10*** join/#kde Alethes (n=alethes@gw.mindoka.com)
13:42.31*** join/#kde jthomas (n=jthomas@nat.sierrabravo.net)
13:44.18d1zzydoes kde 4 konqueror use the SOCKS setting or is it like in kde3 where konquerer completely ignores it while other applications (kmail, knode, kopete) use it?
13:45.51*** join/#kde oversize (n=manuel@dslb-084-059-186-131.pools.arcor-ip.net)
13:50.44*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au)
13:51.25*** join/#kde gshipley (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-824e40a24daefe6c)
13:51.35*** join/#kde ninjaslim (n=sabeeh@ool-43544a41.dyn.optonline.net)
13:52.10*** join/#kde ninjaslim (n=sabeeh@ool-43544a41.dyn.optonline.net)
13:57.59*** join/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
13:58.32Danmerhow can i enable ark to see something different than rar or iso?
13:59.01*** join/#kde mikkoc (n=mikko@host123-77-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
14:00.51*** join/#kde shred (n=dudelwu7@vpn513-024.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de)
14:01.11*** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@modemcable003.157-131-66.mc.videotron.ca)
14:01.42*** join/#kde kuadrosx (n=kuadrosx@190.68.192.206)
14:02.04Danmerin beta2
14:02.33*** join/#kde Nightrose (n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose)
14:03.34Nightrosesince installing 4.1 beta 2 I get the beep sound every time a window is raised (like opening krunner) - how can i turn it off again? can't seem to find anything in the notification setting
14:03.55liberNightrose: in systemsettings
14:04.03Nightroseliber: yes but where ;-)
14:04.06liberNightrose: under the notifications module
14:04.17Nightroseok and then?
14:04.29libergo to kwin in the dropdown menu
14:04.42Nightrosethere is no kwin there for me
14:04.46*** join/#kde RaNdY (i=randy@randy.phcore.com)
14:04.56*** join/#kde bline (n=sbeck@wsip-70-184-8-194.ri.ri.cox.net)
14:04.58Nightroseohhhhh
14:05.00Nightrosenever mind
14:05.02liberthen I have no idea what the option is called
14:05.04Nightroseheaddesks
14:05.10liber"the kde windowmanager" :)
14:05.11Nightrosethanks liber ;-)
14:05.23NightroseI just didn't see the scrollbar
14:05.38libernp..
14:09.01Danmerdoes anybody use ark from kde4 here? -_-
14:09.07*** join/#kde hedeo (n=hedeo@77.94.42.14.satgate.net)
14:09.29*** join/#kde toepeu (n=toepeu@203.229.114.251)
14:09.53sandsmarkDanmer: yes
14:10.29Danmersandsmark: i have only 2 supported filetypes - rar and iso. do you have the same issue?
14:10.35sandsmarknope
14:10.39sandsmarkwhat distro?
14:10.56Danmergentoo, but i've built manually
14:11.09sandsmark*cough*morelikefailtoo*cough*
14:11.13sandsmarkit even opens .jar's  =)
14:11.21pedepyLoOOOOOL fail
14:11.23sandsmark(easy to get, as I'm working on java applets =)
14:11.45Danmerpedepy: relax
14:11.54pedepyah im relaxing
14:12.15sandsmarkand tar.gz's
14:12.16pedepyim sitting under the shade of a tree, on my balcony, watching people to go work, waiting for my new fridge to get delivered
14:12.16*** join/#kde cga (n=cga@84.221.255.50)
14:12.27pedepystealing wifi, chatting..
14:12.51Jucatotalking nonsense in #kde...
14:13.00sandsmarkdistracting me from work =3
14:13.10pedepyill try ark ... last i did i was having all sortsa problems too
14:13.48sandsmarkark in kde 4 really shines, compared to the 3.5 version
14:13.52Danmeroh..it's my fault
14:14.12Jucatosandsmark: my 1 week-old kdeutils build couldn't open .tar.gz...
14:14.24sandsmarkJucato: then you have huge amounts of fail
14:14.31sandsmarkJucato: as I just opened one =)
14:14.33Danmeri didn't install libzip and libarchive X_X
14:14.45sandsmark=)
14:14.52Jucatosandsmark: I probably just need to recompile
14:16.23pedepyok this is what iget: tried to extract a tar.gz archive, and it extracted only contents of one particular folder within the archive, and not the rest
14:16.45*** join/#kde zly (n=zly@5634dfcf.rev.stofanet.dk)
14:17.27sandsmarkpedepy: then you probably selected one folder =)
14:17.35*** join/#kde holycow (n=new@mail.wjsgroup.com)
14:17.36pedepyNAH
14:17.47*** join/#kde Oxyd00m__ (n=Oxyd00m@host242-204-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
14:17.49sandsmarkYAH
14:17.58cgaACK / SYN
14:18.04sandsmarkRST RST RST RST RST
14:18.23*** part/#kde dwins (n=david@64.90.184.79.static.nyinternet.net)
14:18.29Jucatodrop the caps please
14:18.29*** join/#kde DaniloCesar (n=DaniloCe@nat/mandriva/x-ed02a831c13d2913)
14:18.42pedepywell
14:18.51pedepynow it worked on another archive, however, I *had* not seleced anything
14:18.55cgaJucato, acronyms are in caps =)
14:19.00*** join/#kde |igor_ (n=igor@77.28.24.161)
14:19.24Jucatoout of context
14:19.25sandsmarkand network packets need to shout, otherwise noone can hear them
14:19.28sandsmarkthey're so small
14:19.29*** join/#kde john (n=john@host86-128-94-137.range86-128.btcentralplus.com)
14:20.30*** join/#kde nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net)
14:21.31pedepyboy there is alot of files in the XNU kernel
14:21.35liberJucato: caps is cruise control for cool...
14:22.03paddei can't get scim/skim to work in kde4.1 (beta 2 from svn) - any hints?
14:22.14sandsmarkdon't use it?
14:22.26paddesandsmark: what's the alternative?
14:22.36sandsmarkI don't know, you asked for hints =3
14:22.40pedepyso one thing ive noticed since my last few KDE 4.1 'beta' upgrades, is that dolphin will stall & freeze for a short when selecting video files
14:22.43pedepyanyone else getting that ?
14:22.47pedepyits annoying
14:22.51sandsmarkpadde: maybe more specific?
14:22.56sandsmarkpedepy: noticed it myself
14:23.01paddesandsmark: lol... you want me to carve chinese letters into the touchpad or what? ;)
14:23.02sandsmarkI think it tries to generate thumbnails
14:23.08pedepysome retard is driving the wrong way on my one way street
14:23.10sandsmarkpadde: sounds like a great idea =)
14:23.14pedepyjust thought id let you guys know
14:23.15paddesandsmark: when i right click the scim tray icon, click configure, it scim crashed
14:23.23sandsmarkpedepy: it's your fridge
14:23.29pedepyohw!
14:23.32Danmernot only video but pdf too
14:23.32sandsmarkpadde: sounds like a bug
14:23.43pedepy<- i was gonna CAP that but then i remembered..
14:23.45sandsmarkDanmer: probably generating thumbnails =)
14:23.49Danmerperhaps
14:23.57pedepywell its failing at it
14:24.03sandsmarkI think only image files have a global cache
14:24.09paddesandsmark: indeed. but i can't believe there is no way to input chinese / japanese / ... in kde4 currently. that would mean all of east asia can't do anything with it
14:24.23sandsmarkpadde: well, which distro are you using?
14:24.33paddesandsmark: gentoo
14:24.34*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@wsp05976480wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com)
14:24.48sandsmarkpadde: well, then you have probably done something wrong =)
14:24.55sandsmarkforgot some package or something
14:25.19sandsmarkif you can reproduce it on OpenSuse or Fedora, otoh =)
14:25.42*** join/#kde harri_ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi)
14:25.52*** part/#kde veelos (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi)
14:25.52paddehm ok... i'll try in one of these
14:26.01paddein 2 or 3 weeks, after the download finished
14:26.07sandsmark=)
14:26.11*** join/#kde birunko (n=birunko@200.184.118.132)
14:26.25sandsmarkwell, in gentoo you're the one responsible for including all the right packages, linkage and everything =)
14:26.38paddesandsmark: no, the devs do that ;)
14:26.46paddesandsmark: and usually they are pretty good at it
14:26.54Jucatohm?
14:26.58paddesandsmark: and skim works perfectly in kde 3
14:27.07sandsmarkpadde: well, 90% of the times when I help Gentoo people (including myself), it was usually pebkac =)
14:27.12sandsmark*is
14:27.14*** join/#kde kc8hfi__ (n=kc8hfi@ip-27-215.wireless.wvu.edu)
14:27.56paddesandsmark: but then again, when you help ubuntu/debian people, it's usually their weird patches that make everything behave differently... isn't it? ;)
14:28.11sandsmarkpadde: they usually know what they do
14:28.14sandsmark=P
14:28.19paddemuahahaha
14:28.28sandsmark(except for the poor multimedia-guy who got responsibility for openssl =(
14:28.31sandsmark*=)
14:28.42*** part/#kde trappist (n=trappist@linuxkungfu.org)
14:28.47*** part/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
14:28.59paddehehe, that guy can never come out of his hole
14:29.03paddenot in 100 years
14:29.08sandsmark;)
14:29.15paddehe will even appear in school books
14:29.28Jucato#kde.. remember?
14:29.30sandsmarkwell, he's responsible for a major drop in debian usage around here =)
14:29.34sandsmarkoh =D
14:29.47paddeJucato: uh... yeah... do you have an idea about skim?
14:29.59*** join/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
14:30.19Jucatopadde: only that it might not work in KDE 4 since it's still in KDE 3?
14:30.34*** join/#kde Guiri (n=anonymou@atk512.cns.yorku.ca)
14:30.40Danmerark now works
14:30.51sandsmark=D
14:30.53paddeJucato: thought so... there doesn't seem to be a kde4 version around... are there other input methods available?
14:31.11Jucatonone that I know of. sorry...
14:31.13*** join/#kde DaniloCesar (n=DaniloCe@200.140.247.98)
14:31.19paddebummer
14:31.23Half-LeftArk in 4.1?
14:31.50sandsmarkyeah
14:32.00pedepyno it doesnt
14:32.06sandsmarkit does
14:32.10Half-LeftLast time I tried to extract it didn't :p
14:32.46sandsmarkworked here, and messed up my home folder =3
14:32.59Danmero_o
14:33.16Half-LeftI have to use file-roller
14:33.27Danmeralt-tab sometimes doesn't work
14:33.49*** join/#kde sevens (n=sevens@unaffiliated/sevens)
14:34.05Danmerhmm..what am i to do with amarok..
14:34.20sandsmarkamarok2 is getting there =)
14:34.33sandsmarkit mostly works here
14:34.44pedepyamarok2 doesnt even start here..
14:34.51Half-LeftWait for it to work :)
14:34.51pedepywtf repo are you using sandsmark
14:35.03sandsmarkpedepy: archlinux/kdemod?
14:35.06pedepyyea ?
14:35.07sandsmark4.0.83
14:35.19pedepyyeah thats what i have..
14:35.26sandsmarkx86_64
14:35.32sandsmarkfunkyou is on holiday
14:35.41pedepyim x86 but that shouldnt be the difference..
14:35.47pedepyi get a nasty ass crash when i try to start amarok..
14:36.07sandsmarktried deleting the amarok-settings?
14:36.33Danmeri built it on July 1st, but it's playlist was unusable
14:36.36pedepyhttp://pastebin.com/m2e00c651
14:36.42pedepyno? how do i do that
14:37.06*** join/#kde Muad`dib (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
14:37.21sandsmarkpedepy: well, we build amarok from svn
14:37.35sandsmarkI'll ask funkyou to rebuild when he comes back
14:37.45pedepybut eh .. you think if i reset my settings ?
14:37.47*** join/#kde WaY (n=way@85.18.14.0)
14:37.55WaYhello
14:37.56sandsmarkrm -rf ~/.kdemod/share/apps/amarok
14:38.06pedepyi thats be right, i had my ~/.kdemod dir stripped cleaned after i went from 4.0.69 to 4.0.82
14:38.15sandsmarkk
14:38.16pedepy^ that can't be right
14:38.18pedepyi mean
14:38.19pedepyanyway
14:38.24sandsmark=P
14:38.45pedepycome on fridge..
14:39.10pedepywhy do delivery companies not give you a better time window that "all day" i never understood that..
14:39.14*** join/#kde farhad_hf (n=farhad@87.247.161.150)
14:39.19pedepythan
14:39.30*** join/#kde matkor (n=matkor@beauty.ant.gliwice.pl)
14:39.36pedepyi need coffee but i cant leave my porch
14:39.40pedepyahhhhhh
14:39.48farhad_hfis there any repository for kde 4.1beta2 for debian lenny ?
14:39.56pedepylol lenny
14:40.06Danmerit would be great to change icon size in kickoff..
14:40.18Jucatofarhad_hf: #debian or #debian-kde please
14:40.24pedepyi would also be great to change kickoff
14:40.31*** join/#kde shyam_k (i=75c4912e@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-f7b33b1440c6141d)
14:40.34pedepyis there another menu in the works ?
14:40.35sandsmarkmisses tastymenu
14:40.37Jucatopedepy: right-click -> Switch to Classic mode
14:40.42pedepyi thought kickoff was being scrapped for 4.1
14:40.46sandsmarkpedepy: several
14:40.47Jucato...
14:40.52pedepyJucato: yea i got that, i just mean, you know, a newer one
14:40.53*** join/#kde frugo3000 (i=frugo300@cpp.1337.cx)
14:40.58sandsmarkraptor, though development has slided
14:41.04sandsmarkand then there's that grail-thingy
14:41.08JucatoLancelot
14:41.11Jucatoalso slided
14:41.11shyam_khi when will be the kde translation freeze for 4.1? i was thinking of  co-ordinating a sprint..
14:41.15sandsmarkyeah
14:41.18pedepyand they can live as plasmoids within my taskbar?
14:41.23shyam_ks/translation/localisation/
14:41.24Danmerclicking a few times to get to app icon is evil
14:41.24sandsmarkand TastyMenu might come after a while
14:41.42pedepyi dont need any fancy sliding animations, just give me a menu, but pimp it up you know .. with pictures maybe and stuff ..
14:41.46sandsmarkkrunner pwns =)
14:41.47JucatoDanmer: that's what the Favorites tab and the search bar is for...
14:41.52pedepyits the one thing thats off in KDE4
14:42.03pedepyyea true that .. i just end up firing up everything from krunner too
14:42.35DanmerJucato: and typing to search the name is more evil..and it would be great to be able to decrease the size of icons in favourites :)
14:42.57pedepyi wonder what that OSX dock bar plasmoid is gonna look like
14:43.12pedepykxdocker was neat for that, hardly ever needed to use the kmenu with that
14:43.30*** part/#kde farhad_hf (n=farhad@87.247.161.150)
14:43.59sandsmarkpeach-thingy?
14:44.13sandsmarkit should be available to you with kdemod
14:44.27pedepyyeah but its..
14:44.31pedepyincomplete?
14:44.32sandsmark:P
14:44.34pedepya truck is coming
14:44.43shyam_kwe would like to make our language too be officially included in kde 4.1 can i fix the sprint for the coming weekend?
14:44.51shyam_kwhen is the string freeze?
14:45.02shyam_klocalisation string freeze?
14:45.03sandsmarkshyam_k: http://l10n.kde.org/
14:45.07shyam_kthanks
14:45.13Jucatoshyam_k: you can also try asking in #kde-devel
14:45.22pedepywhat language is that
14:45.38Jucatowhat language is what?
14:45.40aleksanterihmm
14:46.04aleksanterii get this when cmaking yakuake: "CMake Error: ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in /home/aleksanteri/.kde4/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps"
14:46.09pedepysandsmark: that 'peachy' plasmoid just pops as an 'unknown plasmoid' for me .. no UI whatsoever, even
14:46.10aleksanteriis there any place where i can get that file? :)
14:46.21sandsmarkurk
14:46.31pedepyurk?
14:46.38sandsmarkblame funkyou =P
14:46.45pedepydamn that funkyou
14:47.16Jucatoaleksanteri: have you installed KDE headers?
14:47.22JucatoKDE 4* headers
14:47.50*** join/#kde ksvladimir (n=ksvladim@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru)
14:48.04aleksanterihmm..
14:48.13aleksanteriare they in the kde4-development package? :)
14:48.24*** join/#kde shadok_ (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
14:48.24Jucatodunno. depends on your distro
14:48.28aleksanterihmm.. no
14:48.29*** join/#kde lithrem__ (n=lithrem@ppp-39-168.grapevine.net.au)
14:48.46Jucatokdelibs4-devel or something like that. ask your distro
14:49.08sandsmarkaleksanteri: which distro?
14:49.12aleksanteridebian
14:49.15aleksanteribrb ->
14:49.19Jucato<- ok
14:49.28sandsmarknot all distros have that absurd notion of splitting into -dev-libraries =P
14:49.50Jucatolike I said, "depends on your distro". and since he seemed to be talking about binary packages...
14:50.03Jucato(source-based distros usually don't split anyway)
14:50.22sandsmark(Arch isn't source based =)
14:50.26sandsmarkbut nvm
14:50.32Jucato...
14:50.39*** join/#kde Lazydog (n=Lazydog@dynamic-acs-24-154-94-53.zoominternet.net)
14:50.44aleksanterihm
14:50.47aleksanteri"kdelibs4-dev is already the newest version."
14:51.30Jucatoum try kdelibs5-dev.. ask in #debian to be sure
14:51.37Jucato(funky Debian numbering)
14:51.50aleksanterihmm. that isn't installed yet
14:51.57Jucatothat would be it
14:52.05sandsmarkkdelibs #.3+1 = kdelibs4, iirc
14:52.49aleksanterithat does it, thank-o :)
14:53.00aleksanterieven though i'm left with the feeling i should have asked #debian heh
14:53.20aleksanterifor it was kinda offtopic but anyhow
14:53.38*** join/#kde tsb (n=tsb@c900FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no)
14:53.40Jucatowell not at first :)
14:53.45aleksanteriheh yeah
14:53.53Jucatoit only became offtopic when sandsmark came in...
14:53.59Jucatowhistles innocently twiddling thumbs
14:54.04aleksanterihaha
14:54.07sandsmarkheh :P
14:54.22sandsmarkI am off-topic incarnated
14:55.11Jucato-d
14:55.18pinotree(oh well, i can provide a solution for that -- not really a problem)
14:55.37sandsmark=)
14:55.47Jucato:D
14:55.51Jucatogoes back to his assignment
14:55.53aleksanteriif i think what you think then... haha
14:55.56Half-Leftsandsmark: Your name is oftopic, instant fail :p
14:56.10sandsmark:P
14:56.27aleksanteriHalf-Left, no it isn't
14:56.37Jucatohey! don't offend sandsmark... that's our job...
14:56.38aleksanteri(if you read that verbatim ;) )
14:56.41Jucatook stopping it now
14:56.57Jucatosorry pinotree... couldn't resist :)
14:57.05Danmerwhat about k3b for kde4?
14:57.18JucatoDanmer: in the process of being ported I believe
14:57.19pinotreenot there yet
14:57.46*** join/#kde phisphere (n=verner@pc18.host5.starman.ee)
14:57.52JucatoDanmer: K3b (along with amarok, konversation, and digikam) are extragear apps. that means they don't really follow the KDE release schedule... they have their own schedules
14:57.56Jucatosame with koffice
14:58.31*** join/#kde maltedik (n=md@dslb-088-074-007-152.pools.arcor-ip.net)
14:58.38Jucatobtw, anyone else getting random X crashes/restarts when viewing some (random) website and kwin effects are enabled? nvidia geforce4 mx 4000 card, using 96.xx.xx legacy driver
14:58.42*** join/#kde S0NiCaw (n=s0nic@p54A3200B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
15:00.58*** join/#kde dml (n=damien@lns-bzn-40-82-251-179-41.adsl.proxad.net)
15:02.23*** join/#kde z0man (n=paul@i-83-67-70-60.freedom2surf.net)
15:03.47*** join/#kde Muad`dib (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
15:04.14*** join/#kde cappy_ (n=cappy@88.87.13.144)
15:04.43*** join/#kde nullck (n=nullck@200.225.68.98)
15:04.45*** join/#kde insulina (n=insulina@bl5-151-1.dsl.telepac.pt)
15:05.03Danmerhmm..i've added my camera in settings (canon ixus 70 - ptp mode), but no reaction when it is plugged in
15:08.10*** join/#kde hacosta (n=hacosta@131.178.69.79)
15:08.32*** join/#kde Telkontar (n=ivan@213.184.224.30)
15:11.25DanielWthere are camera settings in kde?
15:11.50Danmeryes
15:11.59Danmeron advanced tab
15:12.31Danmerwell, nevermind, no digikam for 4 yet, i'd better use cardreader
15:12.34*** join/#kde cadoo (n=user@dhcp185-216.theedge.ca)
15:12.35*** join/#kde root (n=root@190.95.172.158)
15:12.45JucatoDanmer: can't you use KDE 3?
15:12.51JucatoI mean KDE 3 apps?
15:13.16DanmerJucato: they started together so i moved /usr/kde/3.5 away from $path :)
15:13.31Jucatohm.. ok..
15:13.56*** join/#kde shadok_ (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
15:15.56*** join/#kde ksvladimir (n=ksvladim@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru)
15:16.05*** join/#kde gshipley (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-548305f4e3abefa4)
15:16.25*** join/#kde pedepy2 (n=paul@modemcable003.157-131-66.mc.videotron.ca)
15:17.57*** join/#kde Abd4llA (n=Abd4llA@196.219.96.141)
15:21.13*** join/#kde trops (n=michel@201008174032.user.veloxzone.com.br)
15:21.24*** join/#kde faemir (n=daniel@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com)
15:22.10*** join/#kde Jonty (n=jadh@80-192-73-198.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk)
15:22.30*** join/#kde Ange|us (n=demon@c71-25.i07-18.onvol.net)
15:26.24*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
15:27.28*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
15:28.07*** join/#kde chiefaua (n=tom@bernaschek12.wist.uni-linz.ac.at)
15:28.23*** part/#kde loctar (n=eldadroo@ip245-128-173-82.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
15:31.05*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
15:31.10*** join/#kde gshipley_ (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-2232d337997fe1eb)
15:33.22*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
15:33.31*** join/#kde DanielW (n=danielw@f050065131.adsl.alicedsl.de)
15:35.02*** join/#kde Aikawa (n=shingo@p5B056528.dip.t-dialin.net)
15:35.47*** join/#kde henrik_iv (n=henrik@0x5733ec48.virnxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
15:37.06*** join/#kde z0man (n=paul@i-83-67-70-60.freedom2surf.net)
15:38.23Danmerthe juk startup is too long
15:43.32*** join/#kde buntfalke (n=nobody@82.139.196.236)
15:43.38*** join/#kde BluesMurf (n=userMurf@tuxick.xs4all.nl)
15:44.12*** join/#kde Giofni (n=linda@0x5552cc2f.adsl.cybercity.dk)
15:46.03*** join/#kde Kalidarn (n=X@114-30-108-38.ip.adam.com.au)
15:46.59*** join/#kde |ikeNoOther (n=mohi@unaffiliated/mohi)
15:47.34*** part/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
15:47.59*** join/#kde adam (n=adam@chello089076219217.chello.pl)
15:49.37*** join/#kde bloodboy (n=anon@118.100.5.125)
15:51.25*** join/#kde Kalidarn- (n=X@219-90-152-184.ip.adam.com.au)
15:53.02*** join/#kde bloodboy (n=anon@118.100.5.125)
15:53.12*** join/#kde andrea_ (n=andrea@host200-211-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
15:53.23*** join/#kde mari (n=mar@offb-d9be1695.pool.mediaWays.net)
15:53.34*** join/#kde asfak (n=asfak@117.198.163.104)
15:57.48asfaki have just installed kde4.1b2 on ubuntu. how do i move icon in panel ?
15:58.04jazkayou can't yet
15:58.44zarvoxasfak: workaround is to remove and add them where you want them >_>
15:59.23*** join/#kde regis1 (n=regis@gre92-7-82-243-130-220.fbx.proxad.net)
15:59.43*** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F558ED.versanet.de)
15:59.46*** join/#kde TimS (n=tim@fullcircle/developer/tims)
16:00.11TimSI keep getting 'remote user closed the connection' does this mean someone has been using desktop connect to get onto my PC?
16:00.12*** join/#kde RicherVE (n=RicardoH@190.39.202.115)
16:01.21*** join/#kde guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim)
16:01.34*** join/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
16:01.44DanielWTimS: in irc client?
16:01.53*** join/#kde brlnd (n=brlnd@dslb-084-063-117-002.pools.arcor-ip.net)
16:01.55*** join/#kde wstephenson (n=konversa@kde/opensuse.member.wstephenson)
16:02.00TimSDanielW: No, as a desktop notification
16:02.13*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng)
16:02.16TimSIt is comming from Desktop Connect
16:02.17asfakzarvox, adding plasmoid moves it to just right side only. BTW there is such option in opensuse 11
16:02.25DanielWTimS: mhhh
16:02.31DanielWTimS: don't  know
16:02.52*** join/#kde cheko (n=quassel@p3EE25824.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:03.09DanielWasfak: you can drag the plasmoids from the add widget dialog to every place on the panel you like
16:03.35DanielW(i am saying that about 5 times a day when i am here) .  that should be really more obvious...
16:03.44*** part/#kde |ikeNoOther (n=mohi@unaffiliated/mohi)
16:04.00*** join/#kde aseigo (n=aseigo@S0106001cf0b7d972.cg.shawcable.net)
16:05.24*** join/#kde Dexter_F (n=dexter@ip-78-94-188-254.hsi.ish.de)
16:05.26*** join/#kde Kamus_H_Zwisch (i=kamushad@unaffiliated/xxxxxx)
16:05.31Kamus_H_Zwischhello
16:05.43*** join/#kde kev009 (n=kev009@wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net)
16:06.27zarvoxHello.
16:06.52Kamus_H_ZwischI used gnome all my life, but it resolved to crash and I migrate to kde
16:06.59Kamus_H_Zwischbut I have a question
16:07.01*** part/#kde kev009 (n=kev009@wsip-98-174-230-194.ph.ph.cox.net)
16:07.10Kamus_H_Zwischhow do I add apps to my session startup?
16:07.38*** join/#kde LegolasV (n=whoeiii3@citry.student.utwente.nl)
16:07.42*** join/#kde Ramblurr (n=rmblr@67.159.21.37)
16:07.47zarvoxKamus_H_Zwisch: easiest way is to add a symlink to the binary in ~/.kde/Autostart/
16:07.55zarvoxassuming KDE3
16:08.11*** join/#kde jeckler (n=bookworm@64.180.68.220)
16:08.27Kamus_H_Zwischzarvox: thank you :)
16:08.34Pliskinif you use KDE4, you can do that with SystemSettings I think
16:08.48*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
16:09.02zarvoxah, thanks.  I wondered if there was a "right way" to do that in KDE4
16:10.26*** join/#kde harri_ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi)
16:10.43Pliskinbut, if you just want to start your favorite apps automatically, you just have to let them open when you shut down
16:10.52Pliskin(sorry for my english)
16:11.30*** join/#kde bill__ (n=paloris_@202.150.110.140)
16:11.42*** join/#kde duncan_ (n=duncan@24-158-174-1.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com)
16:11.44*** part/#kde dublpaws (n=none@207.3.149.84)
16:11.59zarvoxYay for automatic session management!
16:13.58*** join/#kde amon_ (n=amon@p508EF9AC.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:14.24*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100)
16:14.48*** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@stud-dit.cbs.dk)
16:16.44*** join/#kde Shwaa (n=josh@host86-139-149-126.range86-139.btcentralplus.com)
16:17.30*** join/#kde fldc (i=fldc@c-7766e255.88-8-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
16:18.12*** join/#kde smurfslover (n=quassel@d515341FA.access.telenet.be)
16:19.44*** join/#kde smurfslover (n=quassel@d515341FA.access.telenet.be)
16:19.55*** join/#kde fldc (i=fldc@c-7766e255.88-8-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se)
16:21.35*** join/#kde dizney (n=sidney@office.info.nl)
16:22.13*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
16:25.04*** join/#kde Vi5in (n=vivin@wsip-72-214-210-146.ph.ph.cox.net)
16:25.09Vi5inhey everyone
16:25.14Vi5inI'm running KDE on PC-BSD
16:25.18Vi5in(so basically on freebsd)
16:25.37*** join/#kde z0man (n=paul@i-83-67-70-60.freedom2surf.net)
16:25.38Vi5inI'm trying to run things like mplayer or glmatrix on the rootwindow (using -rootwindow and -root on the latter)
16:26.01Vi5inI've been trying to use the "use this program to draw the desktop" (or whatever) in the advanced options for the desktop settings
16:26.22*** part/#kde jeckler (n=bookworm@64.180.68.220)
16:26.28Vi5inwhen I don't use the -root switch, it just pops up (as it should) but when I use -root, it doesn't do anything. I'm assuming that something is preventing it from using hte root window
16:26.43Vi5inis there any way I can completely disable the wallpaper? so something else can run in its palce?
16:28.55*** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E197F6.dip.t-dialin.net)
16:29.12*** part/#kde zakia (n=zakia@217.168-226-89.dsl.completel.net)
16:29.15*** part/#kde damada (n=mada@132.230.182.90)
16:29.38wstephensonVi5in: kde3?
16:30.08*** join/#kde SSJ_GZ (n=SSJ@host-84-9-147-222.dslgb.com)
16:31.41*** join/#kde eae (n=alex@host-62-10-50-164.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)
16:34.34*** join/#kde mewshi (n=mewshi@pool-72-72-204-146.altnpa.east.verizon.net)
16:35.27*** join/#kde BCMM (n=bcmm@unaffiliated/bcmm)
16:36.05*** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@116.83-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
16:36.33*** join/#kde TADBSM (i=foo@cpc1-stkp3-0-0-cust537.manc.cable.ntl.com)
16:36.43*** join/#kde bloodboy (n=anon@118.100.5.125)
16:36.59*** join/#kde EagleScreen (n=rafael@89.141.103.63.dyn.user.ono.com)
16:37.09EagleScreenhello
16:37.55EagleScreenwhat is the way for install a printer in KDE 4.0.83??
16:38.41jazkausing your distro's tools
16:38.44*** join/#kde dame (n=dame@62.162.141.113)
16:38.50jazkaand kde4 will see it
16:39.47*** part/#kde dame (n=dame@62.162.141.113)
16:39.55*** part/#kde _Infinity_ (n=infinity@78-0-156-102.adsl.net.t-com.hr)
16:40.12EagleScreenis there any assistent in KDE4 for printers?
16:42.52*** join/#kde mm_ (n=mm@124.161.180.187)
16:43.21jazkaEagleScreen: not that I know of
16:43.30*** join/#kde Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro)
16:43.33Kenjirogood afternoon
16:43.43liberwohooo. some serious netspliting coming :)
16:44.46KenjiroI am having problems compiling kdebase on bluewhite64.
16:45.10Kenjirotill this morning I had pciutils-2.x and kdebase would complain about libpci (if I am not mistaken)
16:45.31Kenjirothen I read somewhere it was because pciutils was compiled staticaly.
16:45.49Kenjiroso I downloaded pciutils-3.0.0 and set it to compile as shared
16:46.05Kenjirothen I went to compile kdebase again and now I get this error: http://pastebin.com/d64086259
16:46.11Kenjiroany tips?
16:46.17*** join/#kde root (n=root@194.44.40.98)
16:48.20Half-LeftKenjiro: have you pciutlils-dev?
16:48.52KenjiroHalf-Left: checking...
16:49.36Vi5inwstephenson: yes
16:49.36Kenjirohmmmm nopes
16:50.14KenjiroI only downloaded the source for pciutils-3.0.0
16:50.29wstephensonVi5in: kdesktop is the app drawing the background
16:50.36wstephensonyou can even tell it to use a different app
16:51.07Vi5inwstephenson: Yes, I went into "Configure Desktop" and "Advanced Options"
16:51.18*** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner)
16:51.18KenjiroI am trying to find where to get pciutils-dev
16:51.28wstephensonVi5in: ok
16:51.39Half-LeftKenjiro: Well you dont really need it, if you have the source it's part of it
16:51.55Half-LeftYour package manager should have it
16:52.02wstephensonVi5in: that replaces the 'kdesktop' process normall used to draw the background.
16:52.35Vi5inahh i think isee the problem
16:52.49Vi5inwell never mind
16:53.04Vi5ini had to check "allow programs in desktop window"
16:53.09Vi5inunder behavior
16:53.17KenjiroHalf-Left: I downloaded the source, compiled it and created the package.
16:53.35*** join/#kde Millzee (n=rob@port-37.switch.block-c.clandon-house.student-halls.lon.ac.uk)
16:53.43KenjiroWhat am I missing?
16:53.50Kenjiroany libs or headers?
16:53.54Vi5inbut it refreshes every time. hmm whenever i do a window operation
16:54.00Vi5innot exactly what I want
16:54.14KenjiroI read that "log" many times and still haven't spoted the answer *grin*
16:54.33Kenjiro(perhaps because I spent to much time on it trying to find the answer)
16:54.38Vi5inoh well!
16:54.40Half-LeftKenjiro: The source comes with them unless the source code is split up, not sure about how you build packages
16:54.53*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
16:55.19smurfsloverhi
16:55.46smurfsloveris installing kde4 widgets from kde-look through the gui supposed to work?
16:57.04*** join/#kde harri__ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi)
16:57.07Half-Leftsmurfslover: You mean the internet option?
16:57.15smurfsloveryes
16:57.31smurfsloverwhen i click install the guii crashes
16:57.38Half-LeftNope, it's broken as far as I can tell and really not supposed to be there yet
16:57.58*** part/#kde aseigo (n=aseigo@kde/aseigo)
16:58.16KenjiroHalf-Left: these are the files installed by my package --> http://pastebin.com/d6283b85
16:58.39smurfsloverHalf-Left: ok so i don't have to blaim my packager :)
16:59.02Half-Leftsmurfslover: Nope :p
16:59.05pinotreeKenjiro: you need the shared library version (.so), NOT the static one (.a)
16:59.12Half-LeftKenjiro: Slackware, Arch?
16:59.20pinotreeif that is all the package provide, then complain to the packager
16:59.29smurfsloverbut it's quite strange i have the option available
16:59.30KenjiroHalf-Left: Bleuwhite64, which is a "slackware version for 64bits"
16:59.35Kenjiro(non-official version)
16:59.38*** join/#kde joseph (n=joe@unaffiliated/joseph)
16:59.41smurfsloveralso the availabel widgets are being listed
17:00.08Kenjiropinotree: the interesting is that I changed pciutils's Make file so to it compile as SHARED :(
17:00.12Kenjirolet me RECHECK that
17:00.46MillzeeHi, are there any good 3.5 to 4.0 migration guides out there?
17:00.49Kenjiro# Build libpci as a shared library (yes/no; or local for testing; requires GCC)
17:00.50KenjiroSHARED=yes
17:01.00Kenjiromy oh my
17:01.37*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
17:01.48Kenjiro*Makefile
17:02.54*** join/#kde Vi5in (n=vivin@wsip-72-214-210-146.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde SMParrish (n=quassel@cpe-069-134-255-095.nc.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde alionakuz (n=alionaku@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing)
17:02.54*** join/#kde esperegu (n=estasmi@145.116.11.111) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde Defense|twyn (n=jepz@pD9EE65EB.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde k1lumin4t1 (i=sortadi@unaffiliated/k1lumin4t1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde iuso (i=a445063@sourcemage/mage/iuso) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde Nyle (n=stoned@unaffiliated/stoned)
17:02.54*** join/#kde The_Ball (n=The_Ball@d58-106-52-128.rdl4.qld.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:02.54*** join/#kde AceLan (n=AceLan@61-221-51-174.HINET-IP.hinet.net)
17:02.54*** join/#kde idem (n=idem@4be54-2-82-225-1-118.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.32*** join/#kde harri__ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.32*** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@116.83-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.32*** join/#kde mewshi (n=mewshi@pool-72-72-204-146.altnpa.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.32*** join/#kde Shwaa (n=josh@host86-139-149-126.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.32*** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.32*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde harri_ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F558ED.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde _Shade_ (n=adam@chello089076219217.chello.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde trops (n=michel@201008174032.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde Telkontar (n=ivan@213.184.224.30) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde nullck (n=nullck@200.225.68.98) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde S0NiCaw (n=s0nic@p54A3200B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde tsb (n=tsb@c900FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@wsp05976480wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde bline (n=sbeck@wsip-70-184-8-194.ri.ri.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde mikkoc (n=mikko@host123-77-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde Alethes (n=alethes@unaffiliated/alethes) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.33*** join/#kde ozymandias (n=chapinj@12-219-28-217.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde GeneralCluster (n=imr@vil93-1-81-57-208-69.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde Camu\ (n=camu@dsl-trebrasgw1-fe49fa00-96.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde tampakrap (n=homeboy@athedsl-266527.home.otenet.gr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde dagar (n=dagar@206-248-137-66.dsl.teksavvy.com)
17:04.34*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde neuzo (n=kvirc@81-208-83-236.fastres.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde rand_acs (n=randacs@dsl-240-26-243.telkomadsl.co.za) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde mbreugel (n=nix@ip-81-11-208-12.dsl.scarlet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde shiznix (i=legends@gentoo/user/shiznix)
17:04.34*** join/#kde phrearch (n=phrearch@cc1255332-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde pawel314 (n=pawel@nat-12.ghnet.pl)
17:04.34*** join/#kde ajww (n=ajww@S010600198f37bafc.vc.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-84-138.dsl.scarlet.be)
17:04.34*** join/#kde pacman87 (n=timothy@71.170.63.120)
17:04.34*** join/#kde ds3itz (i=dan@cpe-72-130-204-16.hawaii.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde swede_away (n=swede@h69-130-218-199.mntimn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde jordoex (n=JordanK@d154-20-33-59.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde frojnd (i=wildone@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde SimAtWork (n=thesimki@24.86.64.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.34*** join/#kde hacosta__ (n=hector@189.160.11.9) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde nsams (n=niko@83-215-143-110.seek.dyn.salzburg-online.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-84-129.leed.adsl.virgin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Nate_Grey (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Sho_ (n=EHS1@kde/hein)
17:04.35*** join/#kde oneforall (n=guru@137.186.38.219) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde nuonguy (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
17:04.35*** join/#kde erov (n=j@c-76-22-137-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde eternaleye (n=eternale@pool-71-112-7-214.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde hays (n=kde4@unaffiliated/hays) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde gleepmeiadreamin (n=drwxr-xr@user-2ivff0v.dsl.mindspring.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Taz^ (n=jmezach@212-182-166-106.ip.telfort.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Tanktalus (n=nfn@S01060016b6ee3085.ed.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde MinceR (n=mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Bugz_ (n=jturning@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde memunkey (n=w0nderd0@c-69-249-4-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Aishiko (n=aishiko@nc-71-55-80-214.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde troy (i=1000@S0106001d7ec31ae1.th.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde ian| (n=ian@dslb-084-060-000-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.35*** join/#kde Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde flea__ (n=flea@96-25-18-49.ral.clearwire-dns.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde tagx (n=thomas@pool-71-178-179-88.washdc.fios.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde Shaikun (n=shaikun@host-72-175-28-253.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-75-246-22.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde matveev__ (n=matveev@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde _teatime (n=jens@213-64-149-162-no39.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:04.36*** join/#kde henrik_iv (n=henrik@0x5733ec48.virnxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk)
17:15.54*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde _neversfelde (n=neversfe@nrbg-4dbe07d1.pool.einsundeins.de)
17:15.57*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde SSJ_GZ (n=SSJ@host-84-9-147-222.dslgb.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde z0man (n=paul@i-83-67-70-60.freedom2surf.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde Dexter_F (n=dexter@ip-78-94-188-254.hsi.ish.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde mari (n=mar@offb-d9be1695.pool.mediaWays.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde DanielW (n=danielw@f050065131.adsl.alicedsl.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde chiefaua (n=tom@bernaschek12.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde cadoo (n=user@dhcp185-216.theedge.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde Guiri (n=anonymou@atk512.cns.yorku.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde hedeo (n=hedeo@77.94.42.14.satgate.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde shred (n=dudelwu7@vpn513-024.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde lsobral (n=sobral@200.184.118.132)
17:15.57*** join/#kde MoRpHeUz (n=morphbr@200.184.118.132)
17:15.57*** join/#kde miller_t_ (n=miller_t@64.74.112.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde bgmiki (n=miki@233-221.static.ikomline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde pete (n=pete@unaffiliated/pete) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.57*** join/#kde MetaMorfoziS (n=avr@3e44b173.adsl.enternet.hu)
17:15.58*** join/#kde whitman (n=itoffice@w370.admn.cf.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde _blam (n=blam@218.185.108.156) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde easytiger (n=gerrys@gw1.bfs1.wombatfs.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde chakie (n=chakie@80.222.227.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde Jucato (n=Jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde master_of_master (n=master_o@p549D742C.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde e-uoaphys (n=e-man@ip72-204-43-47.fv.ks.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde miwi (n=miwi@duro.unixfreunde.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde jeekl (n=crz@unaffiliated/jeekl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde magyar_ (n=magyar_@secondary.pssnet.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome)
17:15.58*** join/#kde thechef (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde blauzahl (n=ax4@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde FransE (n=fenglich@nat/trolltech/x-c610b2e977a0a88d) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde david_ (n=david@s207-6-27-95.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde mx80 (n=mx80@cust116.177.113.38.dsl.g3telecom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde ded (n=dedmajor@83.102.210.52) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde djdarkman (n=djdarkma@79.119.210.106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde Nemes1s (i=35580@acmex.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde blauzahl-laptop (n=zahl@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.58*** join/#kde aton` (i=aton@unaffiliated/aton)
17:15.59*** join/#kde Vaxu (n=vaxaren@adsl-36-5.regionline.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde xenol (n=xenol@chello217023252151.chello.sk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde magyar (n=ondrish@76-10-176-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde Simkin (n=sdegabri@S010600104b6a224a.vf.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde grundleborg (n=grundleb@p15161269.pureserver.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde _al_ (n=al@vento.yok.utu.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde riot (n=wntrmut@krombacher-pils.oph.RWTH-Aachen.DE) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde HaIrLeSsHoBo (n=flip@c-24-127-244-182.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde kennyz (n=kennyz@uralnet.org)
17:15.59*** join/#kde rohanpm (n=rohan@kde/developer/rohanpm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde EisNerd (n=eisnerd@ccc2.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:15.59*** join/#kde silverk (n=silverk@84-50-22-127-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.41*** join/#kde matkor (n=matkor@beauty.ant.gliwice.pl)
17:16.41*** join/#kde eldalion (n=amaury@87-194-53-114.bethere.co.uk)
17:16.41*** join/#kde Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro)
17:16.41*** join/#kde tbscope (n=kde4-dev@83.101.4.30)
17:16.42*** join/#kde nuonguy (n=john@c-24-6-187-202.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
17:16.42*** join/#kde engineer (n=marinept@unaffiliated/engineer)
17:16.42*** join/#kde rr72 (n=rr72@c-67-173-76-252.hsd1.il.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.42*** join/#kde OgreBoy (n=bill@82-43-92-45.cable.ubr08.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.42*** join/#kde stdin (i=stdin@ubuntu/member/stdin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.42*** join/#kde _drbob (n=drbob@ip110-32-209-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.42*** join/#kde skyphyr (n=quassel@92-234-8-140.cable.ubr07.hari.blueyonder.co.uk)
17:16.43*** join/#kde ElemonGW (n=ElemonGW@unaffiliated/elemongw) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde ksvladimir (n=ksvladim@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde gshipley_ (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-2232d337997fe1eb)
17:16.43*** join/#kde Aikawa (n=shingo@p5B056528.dip.t-dialin.net)
17:16.43*** join/#kde cheko (n=quassel@p3EE25824.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde henrik_iv (n=henrik@0x5733ec48.virnxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde _teatime (n=jens@213-64-149-162-no39.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde matveev__ (n=matveev@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde radi0head (n=freaksho@modemcable228.95-83-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde t|zz (n=tizz@84-75-246-22.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde Shaikun (n=shaikun@host-72-175-28-253.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde tagx (n=thomas@pool-71-178-179-88.washdc.fios.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde flea__ (n=flea@96-25-18-49.ral.clearwire-dns.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde Bugz (n=Bugz@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde ian| (n=ian@dslb-084-060-000-217.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde troy (i=1000@S0106001d7ec31ae1.th.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde Aishiko (n=aishiko@nc-71-55-80-214.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde memunkey (n=w0nderd0@c-69-249-4-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde Bugz_ (n=jturning@adsl-75-42-71-107.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde MinceR (n=mincer@unaffiliated/mincer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde Tanktalus (n=nfn@S01060016b6ee3085.ed.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde Taz^ (n=jmezach@212-182-166-106.ip.telfort.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde gleepmeiadreamin (n=drwxr-xr@user-2ivff0v.dsl.mindspring.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.43*** join/#kde hays (n=kde4@unaffiliated/hays) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde eternaleye (n=eternale@pool-71-112-7-214.sttlwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde erov (n=j@c-76-22-137-199.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde oneforall (n=guru@137.186.38.219) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde Sho_ (n=EHS1@kde/hein)
17:16.44*** join/#kde Nate_Grey (n=byte@c-68-48-224-86.hsd1.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde AlexElliott (n=alex@client-86-0-84-129.leed.adsl.virgin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde nsams (n=niko@83-215-143-110.seek.dyn.salzburg-online.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde hacosta__ (n=hector@189.160.11.9) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde SimAtWork (n=thesimki@24.86.64.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde frojnd (i=wildone@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde jordoex (n=JordanK@d154-20-33-59.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde swede_away (n=swede@h69-130-218-199.mntimn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde AnMaster (n=AnMaster@unaffiliated/anmaster) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde ds3itz (i=dan@cpe-72-130-204-16.hawaii.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.44*** join/#kde pacman87 (n=timothy@71.170.63.120)
17:16.45*** join/#kde bentob0x (n=laurent@ip-213-49-84-138.dsl.scarlet.be)
17:16.45*** join/#kde ajww (n=ajww@S010600198f37bafc.vc.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde pawel314 (n=pawel@nat-12.ghnet.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde phrearch (n=phrearch@cc1255332-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde shiznix (i=legends@gentoo/user/shiznix)
17:16.45*** join/#kde mbreugel (n=nix@ip-81-11-208-12.dsl.scarlet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde rand_acs (n=randacs@dsl-240-26-243.telkomadsl.co.za) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde mabu (n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde neuzo (n=kvirc@81-208-83-236.fastres.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde dagar (n=dagar@206-248-137-66.dsl.teksavvy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde tampakrap (n=homeboy@athedsl-266527.home.otenet.gr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde Camu\ (n=camu@dsl-trebrasgw1-fe49fa00-96.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde GeneralCluster (n=imr@vil93-1-81-57-208-69.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde ozymandias (n=chapinj@12-219-28-217.client.mchsi.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde Alethes (n=alethes@unaffiliated/alethes) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde mikkoc (n=mikko@host123-77-dynamic.10-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde bline (n=sbeck@wsip-70-184-8-194.ri.ri.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde nplus (n=nplus@141.25.globcom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@wsp05976480wss.cr.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde tsb (n=tsb@c900FBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde S0NiCaw (n=s0nic@p54A3200B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde nullck (n=nullck@200.225.68.98) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde Telkontar (n=ivan@213.184.224.30) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.45*** join/#kde trops (n=michel@201008174032.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde _Shade_ (n=adam@chello089076219217.chello.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde soa2ii (n=soa2ii@i59F558ED.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde guax (n=guaxinim@unaffiliated/guaxinim) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde harri_ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde cb400f (n=cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde Shwaa (n=josh@host86-139-149-126.range86-139.btcentralplus.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde mewshi (n=mewshi@pool-72-72-204-146.altnpa.east.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@116.83-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde harri__ (n=harri@dsl-olubrasgw1-ff24c100-125.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde idem (n=idem@4be54-2-82-225-1-118.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde AceLan (n=AceLan@61-221-51-174.HINET-IP.hinet.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde The_Ball (n=The_Ball@d58-106-52-128.rdl4.qld.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde Nyle (n=stoned@unaffiliated/stoned) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.46*** join/#kde iuso (i=a445063@sourcemage/mage/iuso) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde k1lumin4t1 (i=sortadi@unaffiliated/k1lumin4t1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde Defense|twyn (n=jepz@pD9EE65EB.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde esperegu (n=estasmi@145.116.11.111) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde a_thing (n=notroot@libervis/athing)
17:16.47*** join/#kde alionakuz (n=alionaku@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde SMParrish (n=quassel@cpe-069-134-255-095.nc.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde Vi5in (n=vivin@wsip-72-214-210-146.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde EagleScreen (n=rafael@89.141.103.63.dyn.user.ono.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde bloodboy (n=anon@118.100.5.125) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde eth01 (i=foo@gentoo/user/eth01) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde eae (n=alex@host-62-10-50-164.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde boom1992 (n=lukas@pD9E197F6.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde smurfslover (n=quassel@d515341FA.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde amon_ (n=amon@p508EF9AC.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde bill__ (n=paloris_@202.150.110.140) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde LegolasV (n=whoeiii3@citry.student.utwente.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde Kamus_H_Zwisch (i=kamushad@unaffiliated/xxxxxx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde wstephenson (n=konversa@kde/opensuse.member.wstephenson) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde RicherVE (n=RicardoH@190.39.202.115) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde TimS (n=tim@fullcircle/developer/tims) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.47*** join/#kde regis1 (n=regis@gre92-7-82-243-130-220.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde Giofni (n=linda@0x5552cc2f.adsl.cybercity.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde tuxick (n=userMurf@tuxick.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde buntfalke (n=nobody@82.139.196.236) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde Ange|us (n=demon@c71-25.i07-18.onvol.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde Jonty (n=jadh@80-192-73-198.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde faemir (n=daniel@88-106-180-165.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde Abd4llA (n=Abd4llA@196.219.96.141) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde cappy_ (n=cappy@88.87.13.144) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde phisphere (n=verner@pc18.host5.starman.ee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde sevens (n=sevens@unaffiliated/sevens) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde birunko (n=birunko@200.184.118.132)
17:16.48*** join/#kde john (n=john@host86-128-94-137.range86-128.btcentralplus.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.48*** join/#kde Oxyd00m (n=Oxyd00m@host242-204-dynamic.19-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde holycow (n=new@mail.wjsgroup.com)
17:16.49*** join/#kde cga (n=cga@84.221.255.50) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde RaNdY (i=randy@unaffiliated/randy) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde Nightrose (n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde oversize (n=manuel@dslb-084-059-186-131.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde jthomas (n=jthomas@nat.sierrabravo.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde devnet (n=devnet@66.192.95.199) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde MeW_away (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde lemma (n=lemma@dslb-088-066-055-229.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde hunt0r (n=hunt0r@dslb-088-064-053-215.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde ris (n=ris@cpc2-bedn1-0-0-cust122.lutn.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde Yagami (n=iori@unaffiliated/yagami) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde d1zzy (n=dizzy@unaffiliated/developer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde vip (n=vip@pld-linux/vip) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde tinin (n=tinin@25.Red-88-8-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde moenicke (n=moenicke@unaffiliated/moenicke) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde Shadowcat (i=shadowca@80.216.48.53) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde starscalling (n=user@unaffiliated/starscalling) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde dmbkiwi (n=dmbkiwi@122-57-47-204.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde Gunth3r (i=Gunther@cm20074.red.mundo-r.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde hagabaka (n=hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde zarvox (n=zarvox@mirror.tamu.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde hishuu (n=hamish@203-79-94-158.cable.telstraclear.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde buscher (n=buscher@p57BCE206.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.49*** join/#kde nhnFreespirit (n=nhn@amarok/developer/nhnFreespirit) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde Greyhound- (i=Greyhoun@89.44.40.37) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde Hoenikker (n=dot@rboss.lod.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde p_masho (n=mash@84-45-225-28.no-dns-yet.enta.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde eNTi (n=nt@85.127.149.46) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde desti (n=desti@p5B018EA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde broeman (n=broeman@90.185.36.135) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde floe (n=flo@i59F76939.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde Ditegen (n=ditegen@mafet.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde ambient (n=tah@julma.lnet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde xlotlu (n=john@79.114.185.153) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde jazka (n=jazka@line-4798.dyn.kponet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde qupada42 (n=qupada@202-0-61-1.adsl.paradise.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde aib (n=aib@pdpc/supporter/basic/aib) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde Gentle` (n=tier@78.42.61.227) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde mkzelda (i=mkzelda@unaffiliated/mkzelda) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde falcon3 (n=kevwilde@igwe1.vub.ac.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde ryanakca (n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde budg (n=budg@c211-30-53-250.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde sputters (n=sputnik@c-98-227-169-121.hsd1.il.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde Corty (n=Corty@unaffiliated/corty) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde sandsmark (n=quassel@likbilen.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.50*** join/#kde P4R4D0X (i=P4R4D0X@P4R4D0X.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde MoDaX (n=nth@lan-84-240-22-131.vln.skynet.lt) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde eljefe (n=eljefe@75-168-74-120.mpls.qwest.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde pettern_ (n=pettern@195.204.118.180) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde artista_frustrad (n=artista_@201-25-168-191.ctame704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde pgquiles (n=pgquiles@54.Red-79-153-82.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde SanityIO (n=SanityIO@77.242.104.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde jagguli (n=steven@82.108.65.115) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde Pullarotta^ (n=pullis@dsl-lmammlgw1-fe70fa00-201.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde Milo- (i=milo@mouhez.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde MuJ (i=chryse@often.stnd.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde manu_hack (i=cu51764@banana.cc.columbia.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde _CitizenKane_ (n=quassel@edit57.daily.umn.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde lenscape (n=lenscape@cpc1-rdng3-0-0-cust698.winn.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde pusling (i=pusling@77.75.162.71) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde jens__ (n=jens@213-64-149-162-no39.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde deitarion (n=deitario@moinmoin/fan/deitarion) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde marcan (n=marcan@marcansoft.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde lsemple (n=lsemple@d75-157-56-249.bchsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde Tomasu (n=moose@S01060020781041c8.ed.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde pacman_87 (n=root@71.170.63.120) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde oelewapp1rke (i=34d4599f@85-158-215-1.powered-by.benesol.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde radius (n=cube@pdpc/supporter/active/radius) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde gkiagia (n=gkiagia@147.52.192.201) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde firephoto (n=tom@pool-71-120-230-105.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde pnb (i=perchr@2001:16d8:ee0e:30:0:0:0:10) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.51*** join/#kde msbhvn (i=haven@c-67-183-112-152.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)
17:16.52*** join/#kde twouters (n=weechat@unaffiliated/twouters) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde SpeedyGhost (n=moon3010@kvirc/translator/SpeedyGhost) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde wahooooo (n=wahooooo@c-67-188-92-40.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde hsapien2 (n=manoj@nat/ibm/x-6da3c04883e56327) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde hurikhan (n=kakra@adsl-9-118.nordcom.uni-bremen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde taupter_ (n=Taupter@201009119161.user.veloxzone.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde veilig (n=chatzill@cpe-066-057-244-094.nc.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde reinhold_away (i=reinhold@kde/kainhofe) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde Tini_ (i=Tini@system.nPine.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde c1|freaky (i=alpha@team.code-1.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde fred (n=fred@phoenix.slamd64.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde Ardarandir (n=JMW@dslb-088-067-113-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde Zetbo (n=zetbo@cs181069076.pp.htv.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde kingfishr (n=kingfish@nat-168-7-231-26.rice.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde Fri13 (n=Fri13@cable-236-148.kymp.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde nixternal (n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde rdieter (n=rdieter@sting.unl.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde profoX` (n=wesley@ubuntu/member/profox) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde Foriskak (n=default@dsl081-059-139.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde Zarin (n=cr@203-59-196-163.dyn.iinet.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde benklop (n=ben@75-166-120-243.hlrn.qwest.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde lfranchi_ (n=lfranchi@amarok/developer/lfranchi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.52*** join/#kde SmallR2002 (n=SmallR20@c-67-162-60-33.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
17:16.53*** join/#kde serij (n=serij@93.180.242.209) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde jpds (n=jpds@ubuntu/member/jpds) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde delroth (n=delroth@som62-1-89-88-158-75.dsl.club-internet.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde TheWoozle (n=woozle@dsl093-241-126.ral1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde Ozy-work (n=chapinj@chapinj.its-is.uni.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde boubbin (i=boubbin@xdsl-83-150-91-127.nebulazone.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde ccc (n=ccc@unaffiliated/ccc) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde ArTo (n=iaguis@82.159.236.187.static.user.ono.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde apokryphos (n=francis@opensuse/member/Apokryphos) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde skagemo (n=steinar@skagemo.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde ^^MAg^^ (i=mag@entropy.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde friedrich| (i=friedric@trem-servers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde Cocytus (i=H2SO4@129.241.186.239) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde bacaci2 (n=bacaci@204.167.145.147) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde estan (n=astan@h15n2fls32o877.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde Trevelyan` (n=MyUserNa@unaffiliated/trevelyan) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde MrGrim (i=mrgrim@c-98-223-145-9.hsd1.in.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde fajmoh (n=fajmoh@213-65-28-176-no21.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde freqmod_q (n=quassel@2001:700:300:1800:213:d3ff:fee9:5ed0) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde Nightraven (n=Nightrav@port-213-160-31-230.static.qsc.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde disposable (n=disposab@blackhole.sk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde Shaman` (i=vicious@nasty.rumour.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde mwti (i=mwti@unaffiliated/twmi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde Dhraakellian (n=ntryon@cpe-66-67-55-191.rochester.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde titou (n=aurelien@berkelium6.ap2c.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.53*** join/#kde lloydbudd (n=lloyd@S0106000f6691d6fc.gv.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde Atoms (n=atoms@ir.tups.lv) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde bipolar (i=bflong@216-164-162-138.pa.subnet.cable.rcn.com)
17:16.54*** join/#kde sparr (n=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde Colonel_Panic (n=Colonel_@c-24-13-103-110.hsd1.il.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde scode (n=scode@hyperion.scode.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde flea (n=blia@12.52.181.4) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde Zanoi (i=zanoi@zanoi.net)
17:16.54*** join/#kde alrua (n=alrua@wolfbrother.toke.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde Heiki (i=hpiirai@217.152.244.62) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde luke-jr (n=luke-jr@2002:440d:6de2:0:20e:a6ff:fec4:4e5d) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde Aji-Dahaka (n=root@fluffy.dname.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde basti (i=bnc@85.214.109.173) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde metellius (i=haraldhv@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde jal (n=JaL@issy.jal.fr.eu.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde Dunedan (n=dunedan@phoenitydawn.de)
17:16.54*** join/#kde cgoncalves (n=carlos@opensuse/member/Cgoncalves) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde GNU\colossus (i=colo@truschnigg.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.54*** join/#kde fdoving (n=frode@edge.lnix.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Prof_Frink (n=proffrin@5ad1ee3a.bb.sky.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde pinotree (n=pino@kde/pino) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde GraveDigger (n=GraveDig@unaffiliated/gravedigger) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde bluszcz (n=bluszcz@idoru.pl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Madkiss (i=madkiss@freenode/staff-emeritus/madkiss) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Trigger7 (i=trigger@static.88-198-131-59.clients.your-server.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde clustermagnet (n=clusterm@63.247.203.252) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde blq (i=me@1.1.1.vg) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde khansen (n=khansen@nat/trolltech/x-cd418a708e4cf735) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde twoerner (n=twoerner@nat/redhat/x-6f8baa2d4fb4fb72) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde padde (n=padde@unaffiliated/padde) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde RegEchse (n=regechse@maaah.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Nakkel (i=nakkel@pdpc/supporter/active/Nakkel) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Sput (n=sputnick@quassel/developer/sput) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde hal1on (i=hal@217.10.144.138) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Daante (n=quassel@static.88-198-7-150.clients.your-server.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde KRF (i=raptor@electrostorm.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde dnsn (n=dennis@tuxedo.abo.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde zlin (n=bo@exherbo/developer/zlin) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:16.55*** join/#kde Sanitoeter (i=sani@kessy.biz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:17.34Half-LeftBOOM!
17:17.34MinceRDOOM!
17:17.35*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
17:18.13*** join/#kde _neversfelde (n=neversfe@nrbg-4dbe07d1.pool.einsundeins.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde SSJ_GZ (n=SSJ@host-84-9-147-222.dslgb.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde z0man (n=paul@i-83-67-70-60.freedom2surf.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde Dexter_F (n=dexter@ip-78-94-188-254.hsi.ish.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde defreng (n=defreng@unaffiliated/defreng) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde mari (n=mar@offb-d9be1695.pool.mediaWays.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde DanielW (n=danielw@f050065131.adsl.alicedsl.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde chiefaua (n=tom@bernaschek12.wist.uni-linz.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.13*** join/#kde cadoo (n=user@dhcp185-216.theedge.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde Guiri (n=anonymou@atk512.cns.yorku.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde hedeo (n=hedeo@77.94.42.14.satgate.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde shred (n=dudelwu7@vpn513-024.rzuser.uni-heidelberg.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde lsobral (n=sobral@200.184.118.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde MoRpHeUz (n=morphbr@200.184.118.132) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde miller_t_ (n=miller_t@64.74.112.16) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.14*** join/#kde bgmiki (n=miki@233-221.static.ikomline.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde pete (n=pete@unaffiliated/pete) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde MetaMorfoziS (n=avr@3e44b173.adsl.enternet.hu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde whitman (n=itoffice@w370.admn.cf.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde _blam (n=blam@218.185.108.156) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde easytiger (n=gerrys@gw1.bfs1.wombatfs.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde chakie (n=chakie@80.222.227.172) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde Jucato (n=Jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde master_of_master (n=master_o@p549D742C.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde e-uoaphys (n=e-man@ip72-204-43-47.fv.ks.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde vju (n=c@alt.dotdev.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde miwi (n=miwi@duro.unixfreunde.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde jeekl (n=crz@unaffiliated/jeekl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde magyar_ (n=magyar_@secondary.pssnet.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde mick_home (n=clamwin@clamwin/admin/mickhome)
17:18.15*** join/#kde thechef (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde blauzahl (n=ax4@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde FransE (n=fenglich@nat/trolltech/x-c610b2e977a0a88d) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde david_ (n=david@s207-6-27-95.bc.hsia.telus.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde mx80 (n=mx80@cust116.177.113.38.dsl.g3telecom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde ded (n=dedmajor@83.102.210.52) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde djdarkman (n=djdarkma@79.119.210.106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde Nemes1s (i=35580@acmex.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.15*** join/#kde blauzahl-laptop (n=zahl@m209-8.dsl.rawbw.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde aton` (i=aton@unaffiliated/aton) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde Vaxu (n=vaxaren@adsl-36-5.regionline.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde xenol (n=xenol@chello217023252151.chello.sk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde benJIman (n=benji@benjiweber.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde magyar (n=ondrish@76-10-176-50.dsl.teksavvy.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde Simkin (n=sdegabri@S010600104b6a224a.vf.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde grundleborg (n=grundleb@p15161269.pureserver.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde _al_ (n=al@vento.yok.utu.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde riot (n=wntrmut@krombacher-pils.oph.RWTH-Aachen.DE) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde HaIrLeSsHoBo (n=flip@c-24-127-244-182.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde kennyz (n=kennyz@uralnet.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde rohanpm (n=rohan@kde/developer/rohanpm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde EisNerd (n=eisnerd@ccc2.rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.16*** join/#kde silverk (n=silverk@84-50-22-127-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]
17:18.28*** join/#kde jamal (n=jamal@adsl196-27-86-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma)
17:18.28*** join/#kde BCMM (n=bcmm@unaffiliated/bcmm)
17:18.29*** join/#kde growled (n=growl@ivu.users.odessa.comstar.net.ua)
17:21.26*** join/#kde Pinaraf (n=moi@ALille-156-1-18-164.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr)
17:22.58Kenjirolong live the netsplit
17:24.51*** join/#kde loktor (n=loktor@AAubervilliers-151-1-23-54.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr)
17:25.04*** join/#kde rfunk (n=mobile@oh-71-50-255-254.dhcp.embarqhsd.net)
17:25.37*** join/#kde GCN (n=GCN@2a01:e35:2eeb:1680:9c43:502d:c8:d437)
17:25.41*** join/#kde chii (i=chii@freenode/bot/chii)
17:26.59*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
17:27.55*** join/#kde whitma (n=whitman@77-102-242-26.cable.ubr13.azte.blueyonder.co.uk)
17:28.24*** join/#kde BluesKaj (n=kaj@unaffiliated/blueskaj)
17:29.05*** join/#kde mxttie (n=mattie@kotnet-146.kulnet.kuleuven.be)
17:30.16*** join/#kde _Axel (n=daniele@host-62-10-185-109.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)
17:30.18mxttiewould there be an ascii table available in kate..?
17:31.06*** join/#kde atomik (n=atomik@116.83-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be)
17:31.12_AxelUsing dolphin and KDE 4.1 compiled from sources, when I click on a TAG (nepomuk) a see "FIXME: connect me to the dolphinmodel: tags/test" .... I have to compile other things?
17:31.40*** join/#kde Harold (n=Harold@mhy71-1-82-242-198-128.fbx.proxad.net)
17:31.51*** join/#kde Ghost-R (n=G_`@unaffiliated/g/x-763248)
17:31.58ambientI wonder why they replaced konqueror with dolphin, I used it in kde 3.5 and it was very lacking in features and buggy
17:32.17Ghost-Rhow does one turn off the PC speaker in kde ?
17:32.22*** join/#kde jfreak0126 (n=steven@c-71-200-127-167.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
17:32.35*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
17:32.55*** join/#kde peppe (n=peppe@unaffiliated/peppe)
17:33.38jfreak0126does anyone know how to enable the pdf thumbnails in kubuntu 8.04 kde4  beta 2 as displayed in the announcement http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce_4.1-beta2/dolphin-tagging.png
17:33.47jfreak0126??
17:34.34*** join/#kde google_ (n=google@d213-103-150-206.cust.tele2.ch)
17:34.46*** part/#kde BluesKaj (n=kaj@unaffiliated/blueskaj)
17:34.50*** join/#kde pettern_ (n=pettern@195.204.118.180)
17:34.58*** join/#kde carlos (n=carlos@5350FFD2.cable.casema.nl)
17:36.40jfreak0126anyone??
17:36.51carlosbest aishiko have you ever read the book the devils of hiroshima
17:36.55pinotreebe patient, please
17:37.05pinotreecarlos: offtopic here
17:37.08jfreak0126k
17:37.28carloswhat is the topic
17:38.00pinotreeKDE
17:39.00*** join/#kde ArTo (n=iaguis@82.159.236.187)
17:39.29carlosaikawa have you ever read the book tengu of graham masterton
17:40.08pinotreecarlos: this stuff is not for this channel, sorry
17:40.40carloskde 4 is great but grub not work property with vista in asus board
17:41.22Ghost-Rhow to turn of PC speaker in kde ? (like no sound while using BACKSPACE )
17:41.42carlosik use lilo but doesn't
17:42.46*** join/#kde NickNak (n=paul@cpc3-duns4-0-0-cust87.lutn.cable.ntl.com)
17:42.53*** join/#kde Ragnarel (n=ragna@unaffiliated/ragnarel)
17:42.57KenjiroHalf-Left: ok, found the problem with pciutils: ME
17:43.11Half-Left:p
17:43.14KenjiroI was making a mistaking when creating the package ahahahah dumb carap
17:43.15Kenjiro*crap
17:43.20*** join/#kde talvik (n=talvik@200-161-123-241.dsl.telesp.net.br)
17:44.37*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
17:45.28*** join/#kde zir0faive (n=zir0faiv@mar92-2-82-67-214-216.fbx.proxad.net)
17:46.00*** join/#kde dml (n=damien@lns-bzn-27-82-248-43-80.adsl.proxad.net)
17:46.07*** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@87-198-37-27.ptr.magnet.ie)
17:46.50*** join/#kde [WoLf] (n=wolf@75.117.48.198)
17:47.23*** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@87-198-37-27.ptr.magnet.ie)
17:47.26*** join/#kde frugo3000 (i=frugo300@cpp.1337.cx)
17:48.44*** join/#kde matkor (n=matkor@beauty.ant.gliwice.pl)
17:49.27*** join/#kde PhilRod (n=phil@cpc3-oxfd3-0-0-cust276.oxfd.cable.ntl.com)
17:51.40*** join/#kde Fujisan (n=Japan@unaffiliated/fujisan)
17:51.56*** join/#kde insulina (n=insulina@bl4-237-10.dsl.telepac.pt)
17:52.15*** join/#kde XanK (n=carlos@190.36.233.93)
17:52.31*** join/#kde JohnBat26 (n=JohnBat2@home-pool6-130.com2com.ru)
17:52.53*** join/#kde mikko777 (n=mikko777@a88-114-222-22.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
17:53.26*** join/#kde Adiga0707 (i=kvirc@host-193-124-232-77.real.kvidex.ru)
17:54.56Adiga0707Ïðèâòå
17:55.03pinotreeenglish please
17:55.05jazkagibberish
17:55.24cappy_pinotree: i think he/she said hello
17:55.24cappy_;p
17:55.35Adiga0707Àë¸
17:55.43cappy_Adiga0707: russian ?
17:55.43Nemes1shey I have a question.  Is konq_iconview gone in kde 4?
17:55.49Adiga0707Es
17:55.50pinotreeAdiga0707: UTF-8 please
17:56.13*** part/#kde Adiga0707 (i=kvirc@host-193-124-232-77.real.kvidex.ru)
17:58.31*** part/#kde mikko777 (n=mikko777@a88-114-222-22.elisa-laajakaista.fi)
18:00.15*** join/#kde LjL (n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl)
18:00.31KenjiroHalf-Left: ok, kdebase is compiled and installed, going for kdebase-workspace now :)
18:01.00Half-Left:)
18:02.58*** join/#kde polly_morf (n=limpan@m83-188-203-56.cust.tele2.se)
18:03.03*** join/#kde linux_communist (n=neonknig@c-76-16-130-24.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
18:03.16*** join/#kde jfreak0126 (n=steven@c-71-200-127-167.hsd1.md.comcast.net)
18:03.32linux_communistHi, I was wondering how I can fix my panel since all of my widgets including start app moved to the right
18:03.44*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76)
18:04.27Half-Leftversion?
18:04.55linux_communist4.1
18:04.56cappy_is away: Gone away for now.
18:05.09Half-Leftbeta 1, 2 or trunk?
18:05.16*** join/#kde djouallah (n=morphado@80.249.66.243)
18:05.17linux_communistbeta 1
18:05.48Half-LeftIt's a bug fixed now, just resize you panel, it should come back
18:06.19linux_communistHow would I do that?
18:06.21*** part/#kde Guiri (n=anonymou@atk512.cns.yorku.ca)
18:06.33Half-LeftResize the panel?
18:06.38linux_communistyes
18:06.48Half-LeftRight click the panel, Panel Settings
18:07.16*** join/#kde gridl0ck (n=cube@mail.atlaspolar.com)
18:07.21*** join/#kde Thundercloud (n=thunderc@resnet17.nat.lancs.ac.uk)
18:07.29linux_communistWhich do I move?
18:07.34Half-LeftYou can make the panel, longer, higher, bigger
18:07.40linux_communistI move all the arrows and nothing happens, keeps staying on 1 side
18:08.06Half-LeftYou mean the icons on one side or the panel on the screen?
18:08.14linux_communistpanel
18:08.27linux_communistbefore, I had my start kde on the left, and somehow it got moved at the end of the right
18:08.42Half-LeftHold the mouse down on the panel settings bar than comes up
18:09.01Half-LeftTheres a settign to aline it middle
18:09.25linux_communistyes, they continue to stay on 1 side, can i move them somehow
18:09.33linux_communistcan i send you a screenshot?
18:09.39Half-Leftsure
18:10.03linux_communisthmm, i press print screen and nothing is happening, last time a thing asked where i wanted to save
18:10.16Half-Leftkscreenshot
18:10.30zarvoxksnapshot
18:10.35Half-Leftksnapshot*
18:12.31*** join/#kde navetz_ (n=navetz@d57-109-1.home.cgocable.net)
18:12.33*** join/#kde Harold (n=Harold@mhy71-1-82-242-198-128.fbx.proxad.net)
18:13.16*** join/#kde moenicke (n=moenicke@193.120.116.183)
18:13.54linux_communistone second, accessing irc on laptop
18:14.17*** join/#kde tom__ (n=tom@c-76-16-130-24.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
18:14.25tom__Hi
18:14.30tom__Here is the snapshot:
18:14.31tom__http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5739/snapshot1as4.png
18:16.39Half-LeftASk in opensuse it has extra features as I remember
18:17.33linux_communistis there any fix for this?
18:17.48linux_communistiv been asking suse
18:17.57linux_communistno one knows howto
18:18.02Half-LeftDelete the panel add a new one and re add
18:18.08linux_communistis there a way i can reset the defaults?
18:18.12*** join/#kde hacosta_ (n=hacosta@189.160.11.9)
18:18.26*** join/#kde tictric (n=manfred@p5B0A7490.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:18.34Half-LeftBETA, BETA
18:18.46*** join/#kde sevens (n=sevens@unaffiliated/sevens)
18:19.12tom__how do i add widgets to each other side?
18:19.19tom__like some widhets on 1 site otehrs on the other
18:19.38Half-LeftAdd them to the exact postion
18:20.00Half-LeftDragg into the panel or use the add widget option
18:22.18*** part/#kde frojnd (i=wildone@static-ip-62-75-255-125.inaddr.intergenia.de)
18:24.04*** join/#kde dima_ (n=dima@tls1.tlstar.ru)
18:24.04*** join/#kde kde_pepo (n=pepo@p5B3BF7B0.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:24.15dima_sdfsd
18:24.29jazkadima_: I agree
18:25.00*** join/#kde neversfelde (n=neversfe@ubuntu/member/neversfelde)
18:25.32*** join/#kde tictric (n=manfred@p5B0A7490.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:26.31linux_communistis there anyway to get the default panel back?
18:27.28tbscoperm plasma_appletsrc, but that will default everything
18:27.46*** join/#kde engineer (n=marinept@isep.wan.ipp.pt)
18:27.46*** join/#kde agnitio (n=magnus@h-91-126-123-244.wholesale.rp80.se)
18:28.45*** join/#kde doktoreas (n=doktorea@host252-186-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
18:28.47linux_communistwhat do you mean default everything?
18:29.23tbscopeif you've placed widgets on your desktop, they will be gone
18:29.41linux_communistit says plasma_appletsrc : No such file or directory
18:29.56tbscopein ~/.kde4/share/config
18:30.09linux_communistand then when i restart i get the default panel back?
18:30.09tbscopeor where ever your $KDEHOME points to
18:31.22Half-LeftAnyone blaming Qt4 for the slowness better read this http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=819
18:31.37DanielWlinux_communist: yes panel and desktop will be default again.  just quit plasma, rm that file and restart plasma
18:31.46Nemes1sso has anyone ran konq 4?
18:32.07DanielWNemes1s: sure i believe every kde 4 has done that
18:32.11Half-LeftI use Konqueror all the time
18:32.18Kenjirolooks like it is not a good idea to compile the kde modules using multiple jobs, right?
18:32.40Nemes1sDanielW: okay so what happened to konq_iconview?
18:32.52DanielWKenjiro: why do you want to do that ?
18:33.04DanielWNemes1s: uh for what is konq_iconview used?
18:33.14tbscopeKenjiro: my experience is that it sometimes works and sometimes not
18:33.23Kenjirotbscope: I just found that out *LOL*
18:33.36linux_communisttbscope: im in kde4/share.config and there is no plasma_appletsrc
18:33.40KenjiroI had compiled kdepimlibs with 'make -j6'
18:33.54linux_communistshare/config*
18:34.03linux_communistthere is plasmarc
18:34.03tbscopeI always try first with make -j2, if that fails, i just use make
18:34.09DanielWlinux_communist: it is in your $KDEHOME/share/conig
18:34.18linux_communisthow do i find $KDEHOME
18:34.18Kenjirothen... it finished the compilation, created my package and installed. But the includes were not in the package (found out when compiling kdeutils)
18:34.25linux_communistim in /etc/kde4/
18:34.30Kenjiroso now I compiled without '-j6' and everything is fine ;)
18:34.30Nemes1sDanielW: configure->file associations->inode/directory->embedding tab.
18:34.31DanielWlinux_communist: just write $KDEHOME?
18:34.45DanielWok but what should it do?
18:35.04*** join/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
18:35.14DanielWlinux_communist: in konsole you can write  cd $KDEHOME/share/config
18:35.20Nemes1sDanielW: it allows you to browse your local filesystem.
18:35.34DanielWor if you want to find out what $KDEHOME is  you can enter printenv KDEHOME
18:35.53linux_communistbash: cd: /share/config: no such file or directory
18:36.01pacman87how do i tell kdepimlibs where boost is?
18:36.01*** join/#kde tempelhueter (n=gmr@91-65-9-24-dynip.superkabel.de)
18:36.08Nemes1sat the moment without specifying a component I can't browse local directories with Konqueror 4.
18:36.11*** join/#kde DaZ (n=szatan@dtq50.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
18:36.11DanielWlinux_communist: did you enter $KDEHOME?
18:36.16*** part/#kde DaZ (n=szatan@dtq50.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
18:36.19*** join/#kde ksvladimir (n=ksvladim@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru)
18:36.22*** join/#kde alionakuz (n=alionaku@quantum.dgap.mipt.ru)
18:36.29linux_communisti cd: cd $KDEHOME/share/config
18:36.50DanielWlinux_communist: so $KDEHOME is not set? mhh
18:37.19DanielWwell it will be ~/.kde4 or ~/.kde   in most cases
18:37.21Nemes1sDanielW: okay how about this were you able to browse your local directories with konqueror 4?  If yes can you tell me your settings in inode/directory please?
18:37.46linux_communisti guess no :(
18:37.48*** part/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
18:37.53linux_communisthow else can i get defaults back
18:38.10DanielWNemes1s: it is  dolphinpart
18:38.29pacman87http://pastebin.com/m37f6e20e
18:38.36DanielWNemes1s: it is default and works just fine. just enter any directory you want in the address bar. like /home/
18:38.51Nemes1sDanielW: okay thank you.  But I really missed the old tree view.
18:39.20DanielWNemes1s: i  read somehwere about a new treeview in dolphin?
18:40.04linux_communistHow can I get $KDEHOME/share/config if I don't have it to reset plasma defaults
18:40.07Nemes1scool.  I just wanted to make sure that I've installed all the parts correctly.
18:40.08DanielWlinux_communist: well somewhere kde must store your settings. how did you try to find your ~/.kde4  ? it is hidden (because of the starting .)
18:40.34Nemes1sit turns out that dolphinpart will be the default file viewer in konqueror 4.
18:40.56linux_communistDanielW: It worked
18:41.03DanielWlinux_communist: what?
18:41.05linux_communistI had to ~/.kde4/
18:41.16linux_communistnow im in ~/.kde4/shared/config
18:41.23linux_communistwhat do i delete in terminal
18:41.32linux_communistrm plasma_appletrc
18:41.33linux_communist?
18:41.38tbscopeyes
18:41.45linux_communistrm plasma_appletsrc
18:41.47DanielWrm plasma*  should work (will delete both plasma files)
18:41.56linux_communistdo i want to delete both?
18:42.01*** join/#kde bluesceada_ (n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada)
18:42.21*** join/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
18:42.40DanielWbut you can also do that from dolphin (just select "show hidden files" in view menu. then it will show your .kde4 in your home folder)
18:43.14DanielWlinux_communist: well i always delete both when i want to reset plasma.  but you have to stop plasma before you can delete that file
18:43.28*** part/#kde Kenjiro (n=kenjiro@unaffiliated/kenjiro)
18:43.55linux_communistdo i delete plasmarc?
18:44.09tbscopeahh yes: first run "kquitapp plasma", then "rm ./plasma_appletsrc" and then "plasma"
18:44.18linux_communisti deleted plasma
18:44.22linux_communistin dolphin
18:44.29linux_communistwithout running kquitapp plasma
18:44.52linux_communisthow do i restart plasma now
18:44.57tbscopethat works but the file will be saved again, with your current panel, thus not resetting it. You must first quit plasma
18:45.06tbscopeyou do that with the command: kquitapp plasma
18:45.09tbscopein konsole for example
18:45.56linux_communisthow do i restart plasma now
18:46.28tbscopedid you remove the plasma_appletsrc file (after using the kquitapp plasma command) ?
18:46.35*** join/#kde gaboo (n=gaboo@cxr69-4-82-225-210-1.fbx.proxad.net)
18:46.38linux_communistya
18:46.40tbscopeif so, just type the following command: plasma
18:47.04linux_communisti get 2 arguments missing
18:47.08*** join/#kde RUMMY (n=giorgi@85.238.59.34)
18:47.22*** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@modemcable044.131-80-70.mc.videotron.ca)
18:47.33djouallahGoGermany,  go turky go go go
18:47.45RUMMYwhere I can find themes for KDE4, not on kde-look.org
18:47.47GoGermanyno way
18:48.15boom1992Germany!!
18:48.17linux_communisttbscope: major opcode: 18
18:48.18boom1992wohoooo
18:48.20*** join/#kde swede__ (n=swede@h69-130-218-199.mntimn.dsl.dynamic.tds.net)
18:48.27*** join/#kde Phlogi (n=bla@217-162-206-4.dclient.hispeed.ch)
18:48.28djouallahRUMMY, kdeplasmoid
18:48.39linux_communistX error: badwindow invalid parameter (3)
18:48.46tbscopelinux_communist: ignore the debug output
18:48.54tbscopeit's for developers fixing problems
18:49.04tbscopeas long as plasma starts it's ok
18:49.12tbscopedid the panel go back to its default ?
18:49.20linux_communistah
18:49.22linux_communisti couldnt delete it
18:49.23linux_communistlol
18:49.24linux_communistit wasnt _
18:49.26linux_communistit was -
18:49.26*** join/#kde google_ (n=google@d213-103-150-206.cust.tele2.ch)
18:49.44tbscopeohh, yeah that might be possible. Don't know each file name by head :)
18:49.59linux_communistYAY
18:50.32linux_communistthanks so much guys :)
18:51.04tbscopeI guess it would be easier if there was a default button in the panel settings
18:51.11linux_communistyeah
18:51.16linux_communistcan i go to devel room and request :D?
18:51.33tbscopeadd a wish to bugs.kde.org (if it's not already there)
18:51.37linux_communistbtw: why is there a box around my widgets
18:51.39linux_communistor something
18:51.45linux_communistdesktop qidgets
18:51.55tbscopeThe box depends on the used theme
18:52.10tbscopeyou can make a theme that doesn't show such large borders
18:53.06DanielWlinux_communist: do you mean that plasma widget borders to move,  resize and rotate them?
18:55.45linux_communistit holds my desktop widgets together
18:56.17*** join/#kde plovs (n=plovs@89.221.114.175)
18:56.48linux_communistcan you guys help me install this theme? i tried and i couldnt get it to work on 4.1
18:56.49linux_communisthttp://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=77150
18:56.52*** join/#kde progger1986 (n=tom@p508CFC90.dip.t-dialin.net)
18:57.12progger1986will the bug, that konquerer wont load webpages ever been fixed?
18:57.32*** join/#kde mikearthur (n=mike@87-194-57-241.bethere.co.uk)
18:57.40*** join/#kde bertus (n=bertus@a80-100-216-78.adsl.xs4all.nl)
18:58.29Danmerprogger1986: you are the progger, fix it!
18:58.32*** part/#kde RUMMY (n=giorgi@85.238.59.34)
18:58.36DanielWlinux_communist: you can just install it from the desktop settings dialog. just select get new themes
18:58.39progger1986lol
18:58.52DanielWprogger1986: what bug?  the one related to fritzbox routers?
18:59.05progger1986to NAT routers at all
18:59.24DanielW?
18:59.25progger1986someone advised me to use an othe dns server: this did not help
18:59.31zarvoxI assure you that it works behind my NAT router here :P
18:59.41DanielWthere is no problem with nat routers in general
18:59.56zarvoxlink to bug report?
19:00.24progger1986mom
19:00.30linux_communistI click add new theme, how do i browse to where i saved it
19:01.16progger1986https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157327
19:01.17*** join/#kde Pullarotta^ (n=pullis@84.250.112.201)
19:01.34cappy_is back.
19:02.10*** part/#kde Kamus_H_Zwisch (i=kamushad@unaffiliated/xxxxxx)
19:02.51DanielWprogger1986: i believe it is the dns problem. do you use fritzbox or telekom speedport router?
19:03.03*** join/#kde C-MoH (n=cipi@78.96.94.185)
19:03.04progger1986none of them
19:03.14zarvoxwhat do you have?
19:03.20progger1986a netgear router
19:03.25DanielWlinux_communist: you do not need to save it
19:03.51progger1986if it is a dns problem: why dows other browsers (including konqueror3) doen not habe such problems?
19:03.54DanielWlinux_communist: do you use 4.1?
19:04.12DanielWprogger1986: as kde4 is doing things a little different
19:04.53progger1986i dont understand what can be so different, that koneuror has problems with a dns server
19:04.59DanielWprogger1986: it does two querys very fast somehow nearly at the same time against the routers dns server.  some routers (most of them from fritzbox/telekom speeport) are a little buggy handling that
19:05.34progger1986what is the advantage of tha behavoir?
19:05.38DanielWthey mix up the responses (the responses go each to the exact different port)
19:05.43DanielWthere is no advantage
19:06.11progger1986why can't you make a single request?
19:07.45DanielWi am not konqueror or a konqueror dev. the thing is quite complex. has to do with the iner working of kdelibs, kio and qt.  there are plans to do dns caching in kded or somewhere else. there is already  a patch for that on the core-devel ml
19:07.55DanielWbut that will not make it into kde before 4.2 i think
19:07.57*** join/#kde radius (n=cube@mail.atlaspolar.com)
19:08.42*** join/#kde davidfreeman (n=david@c-67-174-233-49.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
19:08.53*** join/#kde harmental (n=harmenta@AGrenoble-152-1-75-218.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr)
19:09.26progger1986will this dns-cahing stuff be able to solve my problem with konqueror?
19:09.40*** join/#kde peterz` (n=peterz@a52083.upc-a.chello.nl)
19:10.48progger1986am i going rihht: that the double-request is at monent useless?
19:10.53*** join/#kde mapomapo (n=mapomapo@85-18-136-73.fastres.net)
19:10.55harmentalhey guys...maybe someone can help..i have realized that my kde applications dont have soud...for instance when a mail arrives kontact doesnt play the notification sound, the login in kde show no sound whatsoever, the same thing with kopete....other than that sound works great on amarak, real player or kaffeine....any ideas?
19:11.18DanielWprogger1986: i hope so.  i got myself an other router.  another solution is to enter some other public dns server in your /etc/resolv.conf
19:11.41*** join/#kde duncan_ (n=duncan@24-158-174-1.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com)
19:12.03DanielWprogger1986: and yes this dns thing is useless. konqueror was always doing a lot more dns request than other browser. that makes some things a little slower to. so yeah that dns caching would be nice
19:13.56progger1986so i have to wait for 4.2 until konqueror is useable for me again
19:13.58progger1986:(
19:15.21progger1986konqueror was my favourit-browser until i saw the 4.0/4.1
19:16.14progger1986but thanks for that info
19:17.29*** join/#kde Camu\ (n=camu@dsl-trebrasgw1-fe49fa00-96.dhcp.inet.fi)
19:19.31*** join/#kde pedepy (n=paul@modemcable044.131-80-70.mc.videotron.ca)
19:21.23*** part/#kde progger1986 (n=tom@p508CFC90.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:22.23*** join/#kde nullck (n=nullck@200.225.68.98)
19:24.01*** join/#kde vadya (n=vadya@86.34.141.62)
19:26.33*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76)
19:26.51*** join/#kde Abd4llA (n=Abd4llA@196.219.96.141)
19:27.49*** join/#kde google_ (n=google@d213-103-150-206.cust.tele2.ch)
19:29.32*** join/#kde philverb (n=david@64.186.165.34)
19:31.15*** join/#kde scode (n=scode@hyperion.scode.org)
19:32.10*** join/#kde michael_ (n=michael@p54AF6399.dip.t-dialin.net)
19:33.02Danmerhmm..some draw problems in panel
19:33.28*** join/#kde Guiri (n=anonymou@atk512.cns.yorku.ca)
19:33.40*** part/#kde Guiri (n=anonymou@atk512.cns.yorku.ca)
19:35.20*** join/#kde ulkher (n=ulkher@189.165.10.210)
19:37.29*** join/#kde Ayabara (n=Ayabarar@cm-84.209.114.213.getinternet.no)
19:38.19Ayabaraanyone know the development status for hotkeys in kde4? I'm eagerly awaiting the possibility to assign hotkeys to volume up/down in kmix
19:39.36*** join/#kde gshipley_ (n=gshipley@55.239.sfcn.org)
19:41.47*** mode/#kde [+o pinotree] by ChanServ
19:41.57*** mode/#kde [-b *!n=downhill@*] by pinotree
19:42.04*** join/#kde d3ce1t (n=jose@144.Red-88-2-126.staticIP.rima-tde.net)
19:42.09*** mode/#kde [-o pinotree] by pinotree
19:42.24*** join/#kde talvik (n=talvik@200-161-123-241.dsl.telesp.net.br)
19:42.28*** part/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
19:42.34*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
19:42.59*** join/#kde Blissex (n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk)
19:45.10*** join/#kde downhillgames (n=downhill@unaffiliated/downhillgames)
19:45.57*** join/#kde agnitio (n=magnus@h-91-126-123-244.wholesale.rp80.se)
19:46.49*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
19:47.00*** join/#kde bram85 (n=bram@h107030.upc-h.chello.nl)
19:48.54*** join/#kde hermier (n=hermier@frugalware/developer/hermier)
19:50.38*** join/#kde talvik (n=talvik@200-161-123-241.dsl.telesp.net.br)
19:55.07*** join/#kde joseph (n=joe@unaffiliated/joseph)
19:55.46*** join/#kde sabayonlive-3011 (n=sabayonu@85.62.20.77.static.abi.uni2.es)
19:58.16*** join/#kde gshipley (n=gshipley@nat/redhat/x-350f86c5054e762f)
19:58.35*** join/#kde guillem (n=guillem@dau94-6-82-237-230-117.fbx.proxad.net)
19:59.18tampakrapis there a websvn page or something for kde4 svn?
19:59.40alediaferiatampakrap: websvn.kde.org ?
20:00.00tampakrapthank you!
20:00.07alediaferiau r welcome =)
20:01.22*** join/#kde kingpest (n=kingpest@zol-a.merinet.pl)
20:02.10*** part/#kde kingpest (n=kingpest@zol-a.merinet.pl)
20:03.20*** join/#kde Shirakawasuna (n=nick@97-113-72-243.tukw.qwest.net)
20:03.54*** part/#kde Guest37520 (n=cube@mail.atlaspolar.com)
20:04.18*** join/#kde sigma_12 (n=sigma_12@196.38.218.25)
20:04.46*** join/#kde radius (n=cube@pdpc/supporter/active/radius)
20:05.40*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
20:05.55*** part/#kde tech9iner (n=hacim@unaffiliated/tech9iner)
20:07.26*** join/#kde tmacedo (n=tmacedo@87-196-200-35.net.novis.pt)
20:07.33*** part/#kde tmacedo (n=tmacedo@87-196-200-35.net.novis.pt)
20:08.47*** join/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
20:08.49sigma_12why is the loading animation in konq so big in beta 2?
20:08.56Danmer% svn co svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/multimedia/
20:08.56Danmersvn: No such revision 824446
20:08.57Danmerwtf?
20:09.28*** join/#kde paloris-J (n=paloris_@202.150.125.247)
20:09.58kde_pepolinux_communist, Azenis is a KDE 3 theme, not for KDE 4.
20:10.05*** join/#kde sidney (n=sidney@85.223.117.231)
20:11.55*** join/#kde mapomapo (n=mapomapo@85-18-136-73.fastres.net)
20:11.58*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de)
20:12.54*** join/#kde sidney (n=sidney@85.223.117.231)
20:13.58*** join/#kde sabayonlive-2658 (n=sabayonu@85.62.20.77.static.abi.uni2.es)
20:14.08*** join/#kde brlnd (n=brlnd@dslb-084-063-117-002.pools.arcor-ip.net)
20:15.59*** join/#kde loktor (n=loktor@AAubervilliers-151-1-23-54.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr)
20:16.14*** join/#kde kniolet__ (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de)
20:17.38linux_communistHey guys, ever had the problem after splash screen you get a black screen with the mouse only
20:18.14flealinux_communist: when i run twm yes
20:19.21*** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@87-198-37-27.ptr.magnet.ie)
20:19.44sigma_12on beta 1 yes
20:19.56*** join/#kde frugo3000 (i=frugo300@cpp.1337.cx)
20:20.04*** join/#kde Freeman13 (n=sergey@212.12.28.1)
20:20.06*** part/#kde google_ (n=google@d213-103-150-206.cust.tele2.ch)
20:21.11*** join/#kde shadok (n=shad@unaffiliated/shadok)
20:21.27*** join/#kde goodnight (n=KVIrc@host252-238-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
20:21.53linux_communistwhats twm?
20:21.56linux_communistim on 4.1
20:22.18PhilRodtwm is a very basic window manager
20:22.23linux_communistoh
20:22.40PhilRodit's (almost?) always installed with X, so it provides a fallback if your main WM isn't working
20:23.11djouallahlinux_communist, it is a way to access your desktop when something wrong goes with kde
20:23.51*** join/#kde Ange|us (n=demon@c71-25.i07-18.onvol.net)
20:24.09*** join/#kde ninjaslim (n=sabeeh@ool-43544a41.dyn.optonline.net)
20:24.12*** join/#kde harmental (n=harmenta@AGrenoble-152-1-75-218.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr)
20:26.16*** join/#kde Abd4llA (n=Abd4llA@196.219.96.141)
20:26.25*** part/#kde Freeman13 (n=sergey@212.12.28.1)
20:27.05linux_communistWell, I can't access deskto
20:27.09linux_communistI think its plasma
20:27.10linux_communistor something
20:27.14*** join/#kde [WoLf] (n=wolf@75.117.48.198)
20:27.14linux_communistSince I can see my mouse
20:27.32linux_communistAnyway to debug and check why screen isnt turning on?>
20:30.39*** join/#kde konadr (n=Kon@unaffiliated/konadr)
20:31.33*** join/#kde lovedaddy (n=greg@5ad8af3b.bb.sky.com)
20:31.44*** join/#kde thomas_d (n=thomas@62.235.162.179)
20:32.13downhillgameslinux_communist, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
20:32.49downhillgamesor if you mean KDE, then I don't know...
20:33.09linux_communistdownhillgames, what will that do?
20:33.12linux_communistshould I vim to it?
20:33.13*** join/#kde zxiiro (n=zxiiro@216.48.163.26)
20:33.21linux_communisti can only access init 3
20:34.04downhillgameslinux_communist, vim or whatever other text editor, yes
20:34.57tbscopekde debug messages might also be in ~/.XSessionerrors (or something like that)
20:35.21*** join/#kde phoenixz (n=sven@201.175.36.100)
20:36.04*** join/#kde zerbp (n=xeno@p57AF525D.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:36.15linux_communistdownhill games, im in it
20:36.45*** join/#kde nightrow (n=benoitj@78.114.231.237)
20:37.16*** join/#kde root (n=root@200.87.49.122)
20:37.26linux_communistis it possible i get black screen from mouse?
20:37.36linux_communistbecause i was messing around with the xorg.conf file
20:38.21*** join/#kde goodnight (n=KVIrc@host252-238-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
20:39.04pacman87kdepimlibs can't find boost: http://pastebin.com/m37f6e20e
20:39.15nightrowi had an idea i would like to share about the new start-up menu in kde4 :  why isn't the "favorite" panel automatically computed depending on sofware i used the most (which would be better than now) ?
20:40.38libernightrow: because then programs that are used roughly as much change place. I actually like it as it is now :)
20:40.43*** join/#kde testi (n=testi@84-72-124-67.dclient.hispeed.ch)
20:40.47liberAlthough I see what you mean
20:41.15*** join/#kde cado1 (n=user@dhcp185-216.theedge.ca)
20:42.09nightrowwell it could be alphabetically sorted but still show only the said 8 most ofently used software ...
20:42.41*** join/#kde bacaci (n=bacaci@204.167.145.147)
20:43.28*** join/#kde aleksanteri (i=aleksant@adsl-85-157-236-142.regionline.fi)
20:43.58*** join/#kde ponto (n=ponto@p5087F61D.dip.t-dialin.net)
20:45.19*** join/#kde crweb (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
20:45.31*** join/#kde zipper (n=zipper@90.185.36.187)
20:47.27*** join/#kde FiNeX (n=FiNeX@79.0.254.5)
20:48.52FiNeXhi
20:49.39djouallahyeah the bug machine
20:49.45liberhello there
20:51.41zipperI have 2 soundcards in my pc. One onboard, and an audigy2. I have a keyboard with volume control keys (logitech ultraX) and they work perfect, the OSD volume thing shows up, but there is no actual change in volume. I had to use asoundconf to set my audigy as default instead of the onboard card. How do i make the volume keys work with this setup? There must be somewhere you can specify what soundcard the keys are connected to....?
20:51.42*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
20:52.02*** part/#kde dansushi (n=dan@pool-71-184-141-74.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
20:52.16*** join/#kde dansushi18 (n=dan@pool-71-184-141-74.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
20:53.32DanielWzipper: maybe you can just disable the second soundcard?
20:54.09zerbp\join plasma
20:54.16zipperHmm, maybe.... But i'd prefer if they were both enabled
20:54.33*** join/#kde dansushi18 (n=dan@pool-71-184-141-74.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
20:54.39zipperusing one for headphones, one for my stereo
20:54.55*** join/#kde x86 (n=x86@p3m/member/x86)
20:55.25x86I've got kind of a unique setup... my users are to be totally restricted except for opening konqueror to look at file folders full of PDF's and what not
20:55.33x86no web browsing, nothing else...
20:55.49x86So I'm wanting to take away Control Center access... what's the best way to do this?
20:56.47tbscopekiosk I think?
20:57.13djouallahhow to show tree view mode in dolphin ?
20:57.37zipperDanielW, guess you dont know a way for having both cards enabled with the keys working then? =/
20:57.53DanielWzipper: sorry, don't  know
20:57.57zipperi know its possible with the gnome-volume-config package, but i really dont feel like installing 33 new packages for this
20:58.20zipperokay
20:58.24DanielWx86: kiosk?
20:58.29*** join/#kde zizzfizzix (n=zizzfizz@polcomp-193-93-54-194.net.perfekt.pl)
20:58.35pacman87anyone have a suggestion for this: http://pastebin.com/m37f6e20e
20:59.23zipperlooks like you dont have boost?
21:00.23boom1992pacman87: install the boost-dev package...
21:01.26pacman87yeah, i tried that
21:01.34pacman87oh, boost-dev
21:01.39*** join/#kde Lazydog (n=Lazydog@dynamic-acs-24-154-94-53.zoominternet.net)
21:02.06linux_communist<PROTECTED>
21:02.36linux_communistcomputer generated xorg file
21:02.44*** join/#kde google_ (n=google@d213-103-150-206.cust.tele2.ch)
21:03.04*** join/#kde alediaferia (n=alessand@host124-75-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
21:03.34djouallaheh i can't find how to show view tree in dolphin ?
21:04.20google_#gentoo
21:05.54*** join/#kde kniolet (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de)
21:06.28x86DanielW: essentially
21:06.34x86DanielW: XDMCP thin clients ;)
21:06.43alediaferiadjouallah: set details view and then from settings->configure dolphin->view modes->details check "Expandible folders".. is this what you want?
21:07.10x86DanielW: HP Neoware c50's... they run their own linux OS, which only gets it to a point where it can connect to an XDMCP server....
21:07.26x86or is "kiosk" some KDE app?
21:07.49DanielWx86: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiosk
21:07.58x86I know what a Kiosk is
21:08.06DanielWeh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiosk_(KDE)
21:08.12x86cool
21:08.19x86thanks :)
21:08.39DanielWhttp://extragear.kde.org/apps/kiosktool/
21:08.51x86nifty!
21:08.56x86how to install it on Debian?
21:09.12*** join/#kde ponto_ (n=ponto@p5087B962.dip.t-dialin.net)
21:09.20x86hah
21:09.20DanielWx86: well if there are no packages for it (it is in extragear?) you have to compile it on your own
21:09.24x86apt-get install kiosktool
21:09.27x86woot woot :)
21:09.34djouallahalediaferia, heheh thanks, i forget to set make this view default for all folder
21:09.47alediaferiadjouallah: np ;)
21:09.53x86DanielW: thanks a lot man this is really helpful :)
21:11.50*** join/#kde hogg (n=hogg@87.120.157.41)
21:12.30*** join/#kde floe (n=flo@i59F76939.versanet.de)
21:13.05*** join/#kde pawel314 (n=pawel@nat-12.ghnet.pl)
21:13.25Danmeramarok2...hehe...like it is beaten by big hammer :)
21:14.27*** join/#kde amalon (n=james@jahogan.plus.com)
21:15.28*** join/#kde zipper (n=zipper@90.185.36.187)
21:16.23zizzfizzixsorry for offtopic, but could someone tell me what the hell does it mean?: "I scratch my itches" from interview: http://behindkde.org/people/jpwhiting/
21:16.28*** join/#kde jean (n=jean@lns-bzn-51f-81-56-131-46.adsl.proxad.net)
21:17.27*** join/#kde pawel314 (n=pawel@nat-12.ghnet.pl)
21:17.36*** join/#kde jagguli (n=steven@82.108.65.115)
21:17.36zizzfizzixI'm translating and that's quite important..
21:18.09pacman87zizzfizzix: it means he works on fixing things that he thinks need fixing
21:18.29pacman87the 'itch' means it bothers you
21:18.30*** join/#kde fintan (n=fintan@87-198-37-27.ptr.magnet.ie)
21:18.35pacman87and scratching it makes it better
21:18.36zizzfizzixohh
21:18.42zizzfizzixgreat thanks! :)
21:21.14*** join/#kde hishuu (n=hamish@203-79-94-158.cable.telstraclear.net)
21:21.46*** join/#kde BluesMurf (n=userMurf@tuxick.xs4all.nl)
21:22.43*** part/#kde zizzfizzix (n=zizzfizz@polcomp-193-93-54-194.net.perfekt.pl)
21:24.23*** join/#kde PH4LG (n=PH@91-64-78-154-dynip.superkabel.de)
21:25.47*** part/#kde linux_communist (n=neonknig@c-76-16-130-24.hsd1.il.comcast.net)
21:25.59*** join/#kde dansushi (n=dan@pool-71-184-141-74.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
21:29.54zipperI have a keyboard with volume keys. When i press them, the volume OSD-thingie shows up, but i have 2 soundcards and apparently it changes the volume for the wrong soundcard. How can i make those key affect all soundcards, or maybe just the right one?
21:31.46mxttiezipper: rightclick on kmixer and select the right master channel?
21:32.16*** join/#kde lfranchi (n=lfranchi@amarok/developer/lfranchi)
21:32.50*** join/#kde tinin (n=tinin@25.Red-88-8-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
21:33.59zippermxttie, i have the right master channel. It is not affected at all by pressing the volume keys (but moving the slider with the mouse works like it should)
21:34.08*** join/#kde Schuenemann (n=Linux@200.254.153.2)
21:36.05zippermxttie, i'm thinking : The keys are simply not using asoundconf's set-default-card nor kmix's master channel
21:36.29SchuenemannI just turned on my computer and it seems KDE is using some sort of zoom and I can't see the whole screen. The screen "pans" whenever the mouse touches the border. How do I disable this annoying feature?
21:39.40*** join/#kde dansushi (n=dan@pool-71-184-141-74.bstnma.fios.verizon.net)
21:39.45x86hmm ok
21:39.51cappy_How to make keymap changing when i click Alt+shift
21:39.52cappy_:?
21:40.04x86kioskadmin didn't allow me to lock user's out of things in the kicker menu, such as Settings and System
21:40.12x86System Menu rather
21:40.30x86also, it put all the apps back in the menu that I explicitly removed
21:40.42x86and now I can't get back into it because I locked myself out ;)
21:40.52*** part/#kde cado1 (n=user@dhcp185-216.theedge.ca)
21:41.32DanielWx86: :-(
21:42.20*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
21:42.43cappy_any1 knows ?
21:43.51x86DanielW: it did a damn good job locking my normal user account out though, besides that :)
21:44.10x86I can't change the background, can't change the view settings in konqueror, etc, etc...
21:44.16x86(which was desired)
21:44.31DanielWso it is not complete useless?
21:44.38*** join/#kde gueneal (n=gueneal@c-71-62-21-189.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
21:45.20x86well it is now, since I can't get back into it ;)
21:45.32x86(i disabled Run Command, Konsole, etc)
21:46.05x86if only I could get it to let me take out System Menu and Settings from the kicker menu, it'd be perfect
21:46.17x86what file is that located in?
21:46.26*** join/#kde ircMonkey (n=christop@AAubervilliers-153-1-43-17.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr)
21:47.48x86what file are the menu items configured with?
21:48.37*** join/#kde talvik (n=talvik@200-161-123-241.dsl.telesp.net.br)
21:48.59*** join/#kde joseph (n=joe@unaffiliated/joseph)
21:49.24*** part/#kde gueneal (n=gueneal@c-71-62-21-189.hsd1.va.comcast.net)
21:49.38ircMonkeyI did transfer the content of audio cd on my hard drive (mp3 encoding); every thing had been done automaticaly. I don't remember what application I used to do it. I still have the media file but I did a reinstall of the system.  Is there a way I can find what application I used?
21:51.40*** join/#kde kniolet (n=katrina@brln-4db826e0.pool.einsundeins.de)
21:52.00*** part/#kde Nightrose (n=lydia@amarok/rokymotion/nightrose)
21:52.07ircMonkeyCDDB Retrieval?
21:52.29*** join/#kde z0man (n=paul@i-83-67-70-60.freedom2surf.net)
21:54.08*** join/#kde mapomapo (n=mapomapo@85-18-136-73.fastres.net)
21:54.46*** part/#kde Danmer (n=Etrans@85.236.5.37)
21:59.45*** join/#kde pedro (n=pedro@201.21.203.174)
22:00.33pedro...
22:00.58ircMonkeyall right cdaudiocreator. and add myself to cdrom group
22:01.04*** part/#kde ircMonkey (n=christop@AAubervilliers-153-1-43-17.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr)
22:01.13*** join/#kde guax (n=guaxinim@201-3-221-120.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
22:01.30zipperI have a keyboard with volume keys (logitech ultraX). When i press them, the volume OSD-thingie shows up, but i have 2 soundcards and apparently it changes the volume for the wrong soundcard. How can i make those key affect all soundcards, or maybe just the right one?
22:02.11*** join/#kde Half-Left (n=quassel@cpc2-mapp8-0-0-cust656.nott.cable.ntl.com)
22:02.48*** join/#kde FR33st8 (n=FR33stat@host86-146-155-31.range86-146.btcentralplus.com)
22:04.56*** join/#kde hagabaka (n=hagabaka@unaffiliated/hagabaka)
22:07.23*** join/#kde |WoLf| (n=wolf@75.117.48.198)
22:08.24*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
22:09.02*** part/#kde halcyonCorsair (n=elliot@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz)
22:11.22*** join/#kde Ardarandir (n=JMW@dslb-092-075-217-146.pools.arcor-ip.net)
22:11.33*** join/#kde klebezettel (n=nik@e178143072.adsl.alicedsl.de)
22:12.07*** join/#kde WalterCool (n=quassel@200.14.84.74)
22:14.14*** join/#kde crweb (n=tom@12-210-80-80.client.mchsi.com)
22:15.47*** join/#kde moenicke (n=moenicke@89.100.152.4)
22:16.01*** join/#kde bhornseth (n=bhornset@firewall.fbsdata.com)
22:16.08Ardarandirmoin
22:17.57*** part/#kde bhornseth (n=bhornset@firewall.fbsdata.com)
22:22.04*** join/#kde bhornseth (n=bhornset@firewall.fbsdata.com)
22:22.44*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76)
22:23.11*** join/#kde navetz__ (n=navetz@d57-109-1.home.cgocable.net)
22:23.22Half-Leftyo
22:23.30*** join/#kde RiotingPacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
22:23.52*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
22:25.43cappy_yo ;p
22:26.31*** join/#kde electrode_ (n=electrod@79.97.23.174)
22:26.42*** part/#kde electrode_ (n=electrod@79.97.23.174)
22:26.47Half-LeftI'm really thinking about going AMD/ATI
22:28.56*** join/#kde Tonren (n=Tonren@adsl-76-241-134-155.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net)
22:29.07TonrenHow do I make xterm-256color my default $TERM value in Konsole?
22:29.09cappy_i wanna get out of there ;p i want intel :)
22:29.26cappy_and i already have nvidia ;p
22:29.36*** part/#kde J-23 (n=aldwulf@a105.net128.okay.pl)
22:29.39TonrenI tried putting XTerm.termName: xterm-256color in my .Xdefaults and running xrdb -merge, but it didn't work.
22:31.58TonrenAnyone...?
22:32.01*** join/#kde worthington (n=rhys@72.252.39.76)
22:32.40*** join/#kde gaboo (n=gaboo@cxr69-4-82-225-210-1.fbx.proxad.net)
22:33.29*** join/#kde bartek_ (n=bartek@cqj88.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
22:34.35*** join/#kde WindowsUninstall (n=WindowsU@host57-174-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)
22:35.27*** join/#kde bram85_ (n=bram@h107030.upc-h.chello.nl)
22:36.43*** join/#kde eljefe (n=eljefe@75-168-74-120.mpls.qwest.net)
22:37.36*** join/#kde cheater-conrad (n=root@gentoo/userrep/cheater-conrad)
22:37.57*** part/#kde bartek_ (n=bartek@cqj88.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
22:39.25agnitioI don't want to step on anyones toes here, but I read somewere about a QtWebKit-based Kpart for konqueror as an alternative to KHTML, will this appear in 4.1?
22:39.51*** join/#kde bartek_ (n=bartek@cqj88.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
22:40.03*** part/#kde bartek_ (n=bartek@cqj88.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl)
22:40.18Half-Leftagnitio: It's already in the betas
22:40.24*** join/#kde engineer (n=marinept@87-196-201-242.net.novis.pt)
22:41.01*** join/#kde eljefe (n=eljefe@75-168-74-120.mpls.qwest.net)
22:41.24Jucatoit's not part of core KDE (like extragear), so no, there's not assurance that it will follow KDE releases
22:41.29agnitioHalf-Left: oh, because I was checking in the kde4daily virtual machine, but couldn't find it, how to activate it?
22:42.19DanielWagnitio: it is  in playground.
22:42.41agnitioah, so it won't be in officially for 4.1 at least..
22:43.06Half-Leftcompiled it bit forgot it's not officially part
22:43.10*** join/#kde |WoLf| (n=wolf@75.117.48.198)
22:43.11DanielWagnitio: so nothing for the average user. more for devs to play around with it.  it is missing a lot of features.  if you want a qt webkit based browser there are two of them (the qt demo browser and that browser forked of that with added featurs, forgot its name)
22:43.13Jucato(it won't be in "officially" for any release..)
22:43.16Half-Leftbut*
22:43.33agnitioDanielW: I don't really need one, I was mostly curious
22:43.36Jucato(unless it's moved to a a core module)
22:43.45agnitiothanks for all the answers
22:43.49DanielWJucato: officially... i think that if it is good enough can move to extragear or kdewebdev?
22:44.03Half-Leftwebkitkde
22:44.29DanielWthere is a gsoc project about webkit in konqueror?
22:44.31JucatoDanielW: "core" module... which extragear isn't part of. kdewebdev... dunno
22:44.47Jucato(I mean, dunno if it will be moved there, but yes, it's a core module)
22:45.27Half-Leftjust noticed the webkit option is not their in konqueror, Oops :p
22:46.26DanielWHalf-Left: it is there if you install that webkit kde konqueror thing from playground
22:46.36*** join/#kde aseigo (n=aseigo@S0106001cf0b7d972.cg.shawcable.net)
22:46.46Half-Leftagnitio: Sorry about that, I forgot, sometimes when you compile you forget about extra features
22:46.59hayswhat is webkit and what does it have to do with konqueror and what is the controversy
22:47.02DanielWJucato: and ok extragear is not part of the core modules in the regular release cycle.  but still i see extragear as part of kde in general and as offical
22:47.18haysmy understanding is its some javascript implementation
22:47.48DanielWhays: webkit is an open source html rendeirng engine which apple forked  from khtml (the kde rendering engine still used in konqueror)
22:48.02Half-LeftDanielW: yer I have webkitkde and compiled it, kdebase was moaning about it for some reason
22:48.09haysso webkit is apple's thing
22:48.12agnitioHalf-Left: no problem, I'm familiar with the situation :)
22:48.15haysand khtml is kde's thing
22:48.24*** join/#kde dirigeant (n=MeW_@unaffiliated/mew/x-344925)
22:48.25JucatoDanielW: so do I. which is why I specifically specified and delimited it to "core" KDE modules which, by nature, follow KDE release cycles
22:48.45DanielWhays: apple is using it in safari and on the iphone,  nokia is using it on all new not cheap phones
22:48.50haysone thing keeping me from using Konq, sadly, is that it still has issues with gmail
22:49.24Heikior is it that gmail has issues with konqueror
22:49.24agnitiohays: I agree, but I've resorted to using gmail through imap in kmail, and moving fully to konq
22:49.31haysHeiki: heh, yes probably
22:49.41DanielWhays: well apple took the khtml source changed it and made webkit out of it.  but as khtml was lgpl webkit is lgpl now to and it is developed in public now. and it seems to attract more developers than khtml. so webkit seems to going ahead of khtml
22:49.47Jucatohays: even when you set browser identification to Firefox for gmail?
22:50.03haysJucato: I've not tried it super-recently
22:50.20DanielWhays: it works quite well with gmail, but google do not believe that. change the identification and and it works more or less though not perfect
22:51.04agnitioJucato: in my experience it works most of the time, but not reliably enough, better to use simple view...
22:51.10agnitiothat last bit was directed to hays though
22:51.27Jucatoyeah, because I use kmail :)
22:51.42Half-Leftlol
22:52.09Half-Leftcontact rocks in 4.1 now
22:52.16Half-LeftKontact*
22:59.59*** join/#kde bram85_ (n=bram@h107030.upc-h.chello.nl)
23:01.57*** part/#kde x86 (n=x86@p3m/member/x86)
23:03.39*** join/#kde darkdelusions (n=delusion@unaffiliated/darkdelusions)
23:04.08friedrich|network gaming stuff doesn't really work, does it? kbattleship for example - I can connect, place ships, but never a "ready" happens.
23:04.55Half-LeftAnyone tell what time it is? http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/25/f_Timem_2b7dd6f.png
23:06.08*** join/#kde Drantin (n=drantin@pdpc/supporter/active/Drantin)
23:07.29*** join/#kde rascal999 (n=aidan@host86-152-168-99.range86-152.btcentralplus.com)
23:07.34rascal999omfg I've got debian kde installed and every one minute it blanks monitor. Its not the screensaver, thats at 5 minutes and the only other thing it could be is an OffTime I've specified but removed from Xorg.conf, any ideas?!
23:09.49JucatoHalf-Left: High School Musical time
23:10.01*** join/#kde hoisn (n=hoisn@p5B0DE7B3.dip.t-dialin.net)
23:10.35Half-LeftJucato: Never seen it :p
23:10.52Jucatothere's a song there "What Time Is It"
23:11.05Jucatoanyway
23:11.19Half-Left:)
23:16.23*** join/#kde kniolet_ (n=katrina@brln-4db93bd1.pool.einsundeins.de)
23:19.58*** join/#kde mumpitzmann (n=mumpitz@host170.natpool.mwn.de)
23:20.29*** join/#kde _bram85 (n=bram@h107030.upc-h.chello.nl)
23:21.31*** join/#kde Ange|us (n=demon@c71-25.i07-18.onvol.net)
23:21.49*** join/#kde rebecca (n=rebecca@60-240-220-188.tpgi.com.au)
23:21.57DanielWHalf-Left: kde4 with some plasmoids from kde-looks.org and custom theme and wallpaper
23:22.53*** join/#kde Rioting_pacifist (n=juan@82-35-192-193.cable.ubr02.dals.blueyonder.co.uk)
23:23.03Half-LeftFooled yer, It's GNOME :p
23:23.37DanielWdid they fork kde4?
23:23.41Half-LeftNo plasmoids from kde-look
23:24.04DanielWi think the plasmoid in the buttom is from kde-looks
23:24.15DanielWit is the normal panel?
23:24.19Half-Leftyep
23:24.27Half-LeftNothing is custom
23:24.32DanielWoh it looks like some of that plasmoids
23:24.51Half-Leftyer from kdeplasmoids trunk
23:24.57DanielWbut great that shows how flexible kde4 with plasma already is
23:25.21Half-LeftIt's very nice, very fast as well
23:25.30*** join/#kde aib (n=aib@pdpc/supporter/basic/aib)
23:26.06*** join/#kde kio (n=kio@adsl-1-70-11.lft.bellsouth.net)
23:26.09aibwhy are the Encapsulated PostScript files that KSnapshot produces in black and white?
23:26.24DanielWHalf-Left: i know. i am using trunk for months now
23:26.43DanielWbtw, does someone know why ark doesn't work for me?
23:27.04DanielWi select a zip or tar archive. ark gets started but it is showing nothing
23:27.05Half-LeftDanielW: Yer it dont extract
23:27.45Half-LeftNeeds a bug report I think
23:27.46DanielWit should work. i read about a blog about it and in the coments there were people using it
23:28.22Half-LeftShould be a option in Dolphin to extract as well
23:29.33aibor,  how can I take a screenshot in EPS format that is in color?
23:30.43kde_pepoEPS for screenshot? :) Sounds like you need Krita to convert.
23:30.58*** join/#kde polz (n=polz@cpe-90-157-213-131.dynamic.amis.net)
23:31.18kde_pepoor try GIMP, a gnomie app.
23:31.18*** join/#kde _bram85 (n=bram@h107030.upc-h.chello.nl)
23:34.00*** join/#kde erojasv (n=erojasv@190.40.94.108)
23:34.54DanielWisn'T eps vector graphics?
23:34.59GraveDiggerit is
23:35.12GraveDiggerdeveloped by adobe for portability
23:35.16*** join/#kde shaman (n=shaman@ugly.rumour.com)
23:35.24GraveDiggereps == embedded post script *iirc*
23:35.29kde_pepoEPS can also encapsulate raster images (like PS)
23:36.00Half-LeftWhere did the format freaks come from?
23:36.04kde_pepoalb, I just tryied KolourPaint from KDE 4.1 trunk, it saves color EPS fine.
23:36.17GraveDiggeroh damnit
23:36.22GraveDigger"encapsulated" that was
23:36.25GraveDiggernot "embedded"
23:38.12*** join/#kde darkdelusions (n=delusion@unaffiliated/darkdelusions)
23:38.22kde_peposorry, I meant aib :) damn small fonts
23:38.53aibcool thanks for the tip
23:39.54GraveDigger~karma kde_pepo +1
23:39.54aptkde_pepo +1 has neutral karma
23:40.05GraveDiggerah damn, not in this channel :X
23:40.25kde_pepowait, I need to change nick :)
23:40.38kdepepookey
23:40.41kdepepobetter
23:40.52GraveDiggerhehe
23:40.54GraveDigger:>
23:41.07*** join/#kde philverb (n=david@64.186.165.34)
23:42.13*** join/#kde hades_ (n=hades@35.Red-83-38-174.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net)
23:46.19*** join/#kde gaboo (n=gaboo@cxr69-4-82-225-210-1.fbx.proxad.net)
23:49.20*** join/#kde ckrinke (n=ckrinke@adsl-67-120-11-67.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.