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| 01:19.39 | MaxHR | Hello, anybody know how to turnoff or modify konq web popup blocker? |
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| 02:27.51 | maazu | good day |
| 02:28.07 | Kyral | Yo! |
| 02:28.23 | maazu | have been following tutorials for KDE4 |
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| 02:56.17 | mars__ | anyone here uses kdevelop? |
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| 02:57.29 | mars__ | hello mika |
| 02:57.37 | mika__ | hi mars_ |
| 02:57.45 | mars__ | upper cup bar? |
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| 03:00.16 | mars__ | mika__: where abouts? |
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| 03:07.48 | daSKreech | bye |
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| 03:14.34 | Zeroth404 | I've whipped up a screensaver to play videos (frag clips, porn, whatever) and it works both in the dialog's preview spot as well as fullscreen preview - but when the screensaver turns on, I get sound but no video, just the desktop. |
| 03:14.56 | Zeroth404 | rather, a frozen shot of the desktop. |
| 03:15.19 | Zeroth404 | screen saver file here: http://pastebin.ca/925570 |
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| 03:40.08 | cgat | #whois pedepy |
| 03:40.31 | Kyral_Laptop | missed the command pally :P |
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| 04:21.14 | aib | is there a kde performance monitor that's designed to sit in the panel and give you cpu/mem/disk/network activity updates from there? |
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| 04:22.44 | Jucato | aib: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet -> System Guard (works with KSysGuard) |
| 04:23.09 | aib | thanks |
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| 04:59.36 | kelvie | is there a notebook like kde program that can be used with a tablet PC? |
| 05:00.14 | Jucato | notebook-like: basket or kjots. tablet pc: not really. (depends on what you mean, like scribbling/drawing?) |
| 05:00.43 | kelvie | yeah like scribbling /drawing |
| 05:01.23 | kelvie | Jucato: I'll also write on it by pen.. but occasionally by keyboard also I'd assume |
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| 05:02.40 | Jucato | unfortunately I don't know of anything like that :( |
| 05:03.29 | kelvie | hrm .. oh well |
| 05:03.38 | kelvie | any *cough* gtk-based apps? :P |
| 05:05.17 | Jucato | ask in #gtk :P |
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| 05:06.41 | kelvie | perhaps I should write one.. it doesn't seem that tough :o |
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| 05:52.23 | robertsim007 | Has anyone here built KDE 4 on Windows with emerge before? |
| 05:55.47 | tristan_ | why would anyone do that |
| 05:56.44 | robertsim007 | For something to do on a weekend evening? |
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| 06:07.47 | memunkey | robertsim007, do what the ex-New York governor did on a weekend evening. Import a hooker to Washington, DC. |
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| 06:48.18 | Smorg | hey the pager works with compiz now (it seems) :) |
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| 06:56.37 | yigal | does kde4 have a similar functionality to 3 in that it can make gtk apps. look similar to Qt? |
| 06:58.14 | stefo | Hi. openSUSE 10.3 here. Konqueror's toolbar icon size is not remembered across app restarts. Neither is kbluetooth's "don't autostart me" option. Ruled out permission problems. Anything else I can check? |
| 06:58.20 | stefo | (kde3) |
| 06:58.36 | stefo | yigal: don't think so |
| 06:58.55 | stefo | stefo: other than using qtcurve in both, of course |
| 06:58.59 | stefo | yigal: ^ |
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| 06:59.17 | stefo | yigal: or using the crappy oxygen-styled theme someone made for gnome. |
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| 07:10.09 | yigal | ok, bad question, my bad |
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| 08:01.07 | lockdownd | there is any way to remove that widget thing from the top right coner? |
| 08:01.10 | lockdownd | corner* |
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| 08:08.30 | stefo | Hi. KInternet just disconnects now and then, with no explanation in the log or anything. ISP problem, or KInternet problem, or what? |
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| 08:11.07 | Simkin | drat |
| 08:11.10 | Simkin | too late! |
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| 08:36.20 | dbglt | is there... |
| 08:36.27 | dbglt | a nice openoffice for kde4? |
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| 08:37.09 | annma | dbglt: koffice2 is not ready yet |
| 08:37.20 | annma | and it does not aim to be OpenOffice anyway |
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| 08:37.56 | dbglt | annma: no, I mean, is there a version of openoffice which uses the kde4 file dialogs and look and feel and such? |
| 08:38.19 | dbglt | kde3 has had one for a long time |
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| 08:39.35 | annma | I don't think so |
| 08:39.41 | annma | look at kde-apps.org |
| 08:40.52 | dbglt | annma: ah, no problem,I found out how to do it: it just has the crystal icon theme, rather than oxygen |
| 08:41.34 | annma | and that uses kde4 file dialogs and such? |
| 08:42.13 | dbglt | openoffice.org-kde package on kubuntu seems to do the job |
| 08:42.26 | dbglt | and yeah, uses the dialogs, and crystal icon set by default |
| 08:42.40 | annma | in kde4 we don't use crystal |
| 08:42.44 | dbglt | yes |
| 08:42.45 | dbglt | I know |
| 08:42.48 | dbglt | it's a bit out of place |
| 08:42.52 | dbglt | but looks much nicer than gtk |
| 08:42.54 | annma | beurk |
| 08:43.15 | dbglt | no oxygen icons for openoffice |
| 08:43.30 | dbglt | perhaps if/when koffice does similar ones, can make a package for openoffice |
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| 08:44.18 | annma | I guess we'll get more themes, styles and icons in a while |
| 08:44.29 | annma | once kde4 is more used |
| 08:44.47 | dbglt | ah, nice, konqui has undo close tab too |
| 08:44.50 | dbglt | :) |
| 08:45.02 | dbglt | I'm liking kde4, I used it side by side with kde3 |
| 08:45.05 | dbglt | but now on its own |
| 08:45.06 | dbglt | very nice |
| 08:45.09 | dbglt | just plasma is a bit evil still |
| 08:45.44 | dbglt | but looks very promising |
| 08:45.44 | annma | not evil, work in progress |
| 08:45.51 | annma | is a plasma devel |
| 08:45.56 | annma | watch it! |
| 08:46.06 | annma | good!* |
| 08:46.17 | dbglt | hehe |
| 08:46.25 | dbglt | oh, it looks as if the capability is there |
| 08:46.28 | dbglt | just yet to manifest |
| 08:46.36 | annma | yes, plasma is minor stuff |
| 08:46.48 | dbglt | what do you mean? |
| 08:46.48 | annma | the big stuff is what is not seen |
| 08:46.53 | annma | libs |
| 08:47.02 | dbglt | ah yeah |
| 08:47.05 | annma | like Solid, for hardware detection |
| 08:47.16 | annma | remember how hardware detection was bad in kde3 |
| 08:47.26 | dbglt | it got better |
| 08:47.35 | annma | yes but still very dodgy |
| 08:47.42 | dbglt | what's different in solid? |
| 08:47.45 | dbglt | what kind of hardware? |
| 08:47.50 | annma | in kde4 it's perfect and easy to use for all apps that need it |
| 08:48.02 | picca | okay today's mission for me is to compile and run kde 4 |
| 08:48.05 | annma | when you plug a USB key in kde3 |
| 08:48.27 | annma | either it's not detected or you canot umount it |
| 08:48.46 | dbglt | hrmm... usb was perfect for me with kde3, later versions anyway |
| 08:48.59 | dbglt | even had a nice dialog saying what was blocking its eject, if it came to that |
| 08:49.08 | dbglt | (nice as in usabiity, not look!) |
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| 08:49.27 | dbglt | but that might have more to do with kubuntu than kde? |
| 08:49.28 | dbglt | not sure |
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| 08:55.13 | annma | maybe it also depends on teh hardware |
| 08:55.25 | annma | my laptop has cheap componets |
| 08:55.33 | annma | components |
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| 09:03.26 | lockdownd | man kde 4 weird |
| 09:03.33 | lockdownd | I cant configure anything... |
| 09:04.54 | annma | lockdownd: it's not kde4, it's only the desktop |
| 09:05.06 | annma | kde4 is way more than what you see |
| 09:06.14 | lockdownd | I know |
| 09:06.21 | lockdownd | But I work seeing that |
| 09:06.25 | lockdownd | bad |
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| 09:07.15 | lockdownd | I use to be a kde fan man... |
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| 09:07.27 | lockdownd | maybe ill migrate to e17 or gnome |
| 09:07.38 | annma | yes, so much for a fan |
| 09:08.24 | Sput | maybe you should wait until configuration UI appears... |
| 09:08.27 | annma | will not sign you an autograph then |
| 09:08.36 | lockdownd | lol |
| 09:08.41 | annma | ;) |
| 09:08.45 | lockdownd | :P |
| 09:08.46 | annma | your loss! |
| 09:09.01 | annma | in a few years maybe you could have been rich with it |
| 09:09.20 | lockdownd | I like double bars, I hated the widget thingy |
| 09:09.38 | lockdownd | btw there is any way to remove that from the uper corner? |
| 09:09.39 | annma | double bars? |
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| 09:09.56 | annma | you surely have 4.0.0? or 4.0.1? |
| 09:09.58 | dbglt | hrmm |
| 09:10.10 | lockdownd | I use to have 2 bars.. just like gnome |
| 09:10.11 | annma | those versions are not really done for be used as desktops |
| 09:10.13 | lockdownd | 402 |
| 09:10.15 | lockdownd | 401 |
| 09:10.29 | annma | you should use kde3 and use kde4 apps on it |
| 09:11.14 | lockdownd | zomg |
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| 09:11.57 | airer-girl | hi is there a way to use dropshadow for texts in konqueror? |
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| 09:14.13 | Eren | hi |
| 09:14.21 | Eren | is there any way to change qt4 font? |
| 09:14.33 | Eren | I figured out that applications using qt4 reads ~/.config/Trolltech.conf |
| 09:14.39 | annma | there's a utility called qtconfig Eren |
| 09:14.54 | annma | call it from konsole |
| 09:15.05 | Eren | annma: thanks |
| 09:15.37 | Eren | well, it looks really great now :P |
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| 09:24.12 | dbglt | how do I add fonts to kde? |
| 09:24.22 | dbglt | I remember some application |
| 09:24.26 | dbglt | but not the name! |
| 09:24.30 | jaggy- | I added a two konsole icons, one for normal and one for root shell -- however, both now pop up root shells. I can't figure out where this is configured. |
| 09:25.25 | annma | it's in kcontrol |
| 09:25.27 | jaggy- | control center -> sys admin -> font installer |
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| 09:25.49 | jaggy- | anyone know how I can have one icon for root shell, another for normal? |
| 09:26.03 | jaggy- | I added both from the menus.. but somewhere along the line it saved something so they all do root |
| 09:26.20 | dbglt | I don't think I have kcontrol with kde4! |
| 09:26.34 | annma | systemsettings dbglt |
| 09:26.46 | annma | jaggy-: where did you add the icons? |
| 09:27.21 | dbglt | annma: err, I don't seem to have a "sys admin" icon |
| 09:27.37 | dbglt | not in general or advanced |
| 09:27.49 | annma | you have to start systemsetings in sudo mode |
| 09:29.16 | dbglt | annma: aha :) |
| 09:29.21 | dbglt | I thought it would ask me |
| 09:29.40 | annma | it's supposed to |
| 09:29.52 | annma | but somehow this is not done yet |
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| 09:31.31 | jaggy- | I added them to the taskbar thing.. |
| 09:32.05 | jaggy- | I found ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc had an item: DefaultSession=su.desktop |
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| 09:32.27 | jaggy- | locate su.desktop shows: /usr/share/apps/konsole/su.desktop |
| 09:32.34 | jaggy- | there's a linux.desktop there as well, so I set that |
| 09:32.46 | jaggy- | that is, I modified konsolerc by hand |
| 09:33.35 | dbglt | now, my system is almost perfect! |
| 09:33.36 | jaggy- | okay.. konsole's manpage shows I can specify --type for the session, and it looks like "--type su" and "--type linux" handle the trick |
| 09:33.37 | dbglt | back to arial font :) |
| 09:33.41 | jaggy- | dbglt: wow :) |
| 09:33.42 | annma | dbglt: you can vote for the root mode here http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151669 |
| 09:34.21 | dbglt | few glitches in plasma and the like, but my applications seem usable |
| 09:34.29 | dbglt | oh!! One last thing, using gtk-qt-engine thing |
| 09:34.31 | dbglt | how do I do that? |
| 09:34.34 | dbglt | I want to use firefox |
| 09:34.37 | dbglt | but it's very ugly at the moment |
| 09:35.43 | dbglt | annma: voted :) |
| 09:35.45 | annma | there's an engine I think, use google maybe |
| 09:35.51 | annma | thanks dbglt |
| 09:36.07 | dbglt | annma: I've actually installed one... but I just can't seem to get it to work (I'm not sure if it's made for kde4 or not) |
| 09:36.23 | annma | it should be specific for kde4 |
| 09:36.30 | dbglt | hrmm |
| 09:36.36 | dbglt | need to figure out how to check that :P |
| 09:36.37 | annma | I did not install it though so I don't know more |
| 09:36.42 | dbglt | the package name doesn't say anything about kde4 |
| 09:36.43 | dbglt | ok |
| 09:36.55 | dbglt | annma: what else is cool to try out with kde4 at this stage? : |
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| 09:37.29 | annma | my prefered app is dolphin |
| 09:37.37 | annma | the file manager |
| 09:37.47 | LimCore | the "About" windows in KDE are fucking broken. how to report this in bugs.kde.org (against which package)? |
| 09:38.01 | annma | LimCore: what kde version? |
| 09:38.16 | LimCore | 3.5.8 |
| 09:38.23 | annma | really? |
| 09:38.28 | annma | screenshot? |
| 09:38.28 | LimCore | yes, why? |
| 09:38.35 | LimCore | annma: ? |
| 09:38.41 | annma | 3.5.8 is the 9th revision of 3.5 |
| 09:38.51 | annma | so having the About boxes broken is unlikely |
| 09:38.58 | LimCore | huh? |
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| 09:39.05 | LimCore | in example in korganizer application |
| 09:39.08 | LimCore | or most other Kde apps |
| 09:39.15 | annma | post a screenshot please |
| 09:39.22 | LimCore | the box looks ok |
| 09:39.28 | annma | I have now 3.5.9 but I had 3.5.8 until recently |
| 09:39.29 | LimCore | but you can not copy/paste the text from it |
| 09:39.38 | LimCore | which is fucking annoying |
| 09:39.41 | dbglt | ... |
| 09:39.45 | dbglt | it can't be that annoying... |
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| 09:39.52 | annma | About KDE or About <appname> |
| 09:39.55 | pinotree | LimCore: and you define them "broken" just because of that? |
| 09:39.58 | LimCore | dbglt: it is, when writing 20 character long full version number |
| 09:40.04 | LimCore | pinotree: yes |
| 09:40.13 | annma | L'Environnement Bureautique KDE est écrit et maintenu par l'équipe de KDE |
| 09:40.22 | annma | that from About KDE |
| 09:40.23 | LimCore | it is stupid way of wasting time of user trying to report a kde bug |
| 09:40.23 | pinotree | LimCore: *sigh* |
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| 09:40.38 | annma | LimCore: pasting what exactly? |
| 09:40.44 | LimCore | annma: in example full version |
| 09:40.52 | LimCore | korganizer 3.6 1242874232.2878274327447832 etc |
| 09:41.05 | annma | why do you want to do taht? |
| 09:41.17 | LimCore | because kde.bugs.org asks me for that |
| 09:41.18 | pinotree | LimCore: why don't you just click on the report button, and let a browser be started with ALL the needed data already? |
| 09:41.32 | pinotree | it's way more easy that you can think about |
| 09:41.33 | LimCore | pinotree: not if Im reporting same bug to ubuntu lunchpad |
| 09:41.34 | annma | for bugs use HElp -> Report Bugs |
| 09:41.49 | LimCore | better question: why not make the text copy pastable? |
| 09:41.52 | annma | ask Ubuntu to add that feature then LimCore |
| 09:42.01 | annma | if you want it for Ubuntu |
| 09:42.17 | LimCore | overall, I think its irritating if *any* text is not copy pastable |
| 09:42.21 | jazka | I can copy paste just fine |
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| 09:42.59 | LimCore | jazka: from korganizer's about window static text? |
| 09:43.22 | jazka | dunno if I have that app |
| 09:43.27 | pinotree | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38689 |
| 09:43.28 | LimCore | overall, I think all text, including static text and lables, not only memos/inouts, should be copy pastable... why not? some people find it usefull |
| 09:43.29 | pinotree | have fun |
| 09:43.38 | lachlan | hello can somebody please tell me how to turn over off in Kword |
| 09:43.46 | jazka | The K Desktop Environment is written and maintained by the KDE Team, a world-wide network of software engineers committed to Free Software development. |
| 09:43.50 | jazka | copy pasted fine |
| 09:43.53 | LimCore | pinotree: thanks |
| 09:44.00 | annma | maybe it's a mouse matter |
| 09:44.03 | LimCore | jazka: that was from the memo widget right? |
| 09:44.04 | jazka | not with ctrl c though |
| 09:44.09 | jazka | with mouse3 |
| 09:44.16 | SSJ_GZ | Korganiser version is not copy-and-pastable here (3.5.8) |
| 09:44.16 | annma | some mice are real smart |
| 09:44.18 | LimCore | no, I can't at all select it. when it is static text or label |
| 09:44.21 | pinotree | LimCore: ah, and personal suggestion: do NOT use any word like "fscking" etc, in your comments - ok? |
| 09:44.21 | SSJ_GZ | Other apps are, though. |
| 09:45.52 | annma | SSJ_GZ: not Dolphin kde4 for ex |
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| 09:47.03 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Same here. |
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| 09:47.55 | dbglt | kde4 is lots of fun :) |
| 09:48.04 | dbglt | annma: keep up the good work, whatever it is you do :) |
| 09:48.09 | annma | thanks! |
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| 09:57.33 | picca | do i need kdesupport to compile kde 4 |
| 09:57.42 | picca | i can't find it anywhere and don't have svn |
| 09:58.10 | annma | your distro should provide the packages |
| 09:58.20 | picca | i am building from scratch annma |
| 09:58.25 | annma | strigi qimageblitz soprano |
| 09:58.35 | annma | you do not have a distro? |
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| 09:59.11 | picca | no annma - no distro |
| 09:59.31 | annma | how do you do then? |
| 09:59.32 | picca | guess i will have to build svn and then check out kde-support |
| 09:59.46 | annma | for jpeg lib for ex |
| 09:59.52 | annma | where do you get it from? |
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| 10:00.31 | picca | annma: i've built all the deps needed for kde 3.5.8 |
| 10:00.44 | picca | annma: these will satisfy kde 4.02 as well |
| 10:00.44 | annma | built from where? |
| 10:00.48 | annma | no |
| 10:00.48 | picca | from sratch |
| 10:00.58 | annma | yes but where do you get the sources? |
| 10:01.17 | picca | from the individual websites |
| 10:01.29 | picca | depending where the source code is hosted for that project |
| 10:01.31 | annma | so how do you do? |
| 10:01.52 | picca | mostly ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc && make && make install |
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| 10:02.09 | picca | most have quirks to work around or required patches needed |
| 10:02.36 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/kdesvn-build |
| 10:02.39 | annma | that can help |
| 10:03.01 | annma | http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 |
| 10:03.05 | annma | that one as well |
| 10:03.13 | LimCore | pinotree: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159396 |
| 10:03.13 | picca | thanks - reading that one at the mo |
| 10:03.46 | annma | LimCore: why didn't add a comment in the one pinotree pasted? |
| 10:03.50 | pinotree | LimCore: unuseful - too generic bug, unlikely to e really fulfilled |
| 10:03.51 | annma | LimCore: why a new one? |
| 10:03.54 | picca | thanks for the links |
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| 10:04.51 | LimCore | annma: both other where about dialog box fix - to make it use some selectable widget; where my idea is opposite: make all widgets always selectable |
| 10:05.12 | annma | extending teh existing one woul dhave been enough |
| 10:05.13 | LimCore | pinotree: fix the widgets library, not each application :) |
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| 10:05.22 | annma | LimCore: we know that!!! |
| 10:05.33 | pinotree | LimCore: you miss the point: there is no library as you mean it |
| 10:05.52 | LimCore | libkde? |
| 10:06.00 | annma | libkde? |
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| 10:06.12 | LimCore | which lib is doing all the widgets? |
| 10:06.14 | pinotree | it's almost a per-application job |
| 10:06.24 | annma | LimCore:LOTS of libs |
| 10:06.39 | pinotree | it's not matter of "widget library", but also HOW ou use it |
| 10:06.41 | pinotree | *you |
| 10:06.42 | LimCore | which library implements rendering of say a button |
| 10:07.03 | annma | QPushButton |
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| 10:07.19 | quentin_ | i've white fonts with the oxygen style, is this a known bug? or is it user-side? |
| 10:07.21 | LimCore | thats a class right? in what lib it is? |
| 10:07.28 | annma | Qt |
| 10:08.05 | LimCore | ok, so the idea would be to make that libqt makes all widgets like label to be always selectable |
| 10:08.14 | pinotree | forget that idea |
| 10:08.25 | pinotree | and reread also what i said: |
| 10:08.31 | pinotree | <pinotree> it's not matter of "widget library", but also HOW you use it |
| 10:08.59 | LimCore | why not just fix it in libqt, instead in each appl? |
| 10:09.23 | annma | LimCore: you know C++? |
| 10:09.29 | LimCore | yes |
| 10:09.49 | annma | so start having a look at Qt |
| 10:10.08 | annma | and then move to KDE and then propose a patch |
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| 10:10.44 | annma | that's a waste to talk about qtlib if you do not know anything about Qt |
| 10:11.00 | LimCore | I didn't say I want to implement that idea |
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| 10:11.51 | annma | you're saying how WE should |
| 10:12.19 | LimCore | I think it would be helpfull to many users |
| 10:12.25 | LimCore | so it would be nice if someone would |
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| 10:15.41 | maki_d | is there a way to make the menu-bar bigger in kde3 |
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| 10:17.55 | LimCore | pinotree: you say there is technical problem that makes it impossible to apply this change at once globally, ie in libqt or something? |
| 10:18.10 | pinotree | i didn't say that |
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| 10:18.58 | LimCore | is there any downside of such idea? |
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| 10:22.43 | thiago_home | LimCore: yes, I'm sure there are |
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| 10:24.12 | LimCore | thiago_home: like? |
| 10:25.15 | thiago_home | like unexpected interaction with other features |
| 10:25.22 | thiago_home | changes in programs that did not anticipate it |
| 10:28.46 | LimCore | so it can be KDE config option then |
| 10:29.59 | jrodger | I am trying to install VirtualBox 1.5.6 (fedora 8) and it is asking for the linux headers in /usr/bin |
| 10:30.08 | jrodger | can someone help? |
| 10:30.55 | cgoncalves | jrodger: this is not the appropriate channel to ask for VirtualBox support |
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| 10:31.12 | cgoncalves | jrodger: please ask in #vbox |
| 10:31.15 | LimCore | jrodger: ask ##linux ; you need to download kernel headers and point program to it |
| 10:31.19 | jrodger | I tried the vbox channel and they're windows users |
| 10:31.37 | LimCore | jrodger: #fedora or #redhat |
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| 10:31.43 | cgoncalves | jrodger: then join your distribution channel. |
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| 11:06.26 | Kalidarn | hmmm "svn co https://svn.kde.org/tags/unmaintained/3/ktetrinet/" gives me an error |
| 11:06.35 | Kalidarn | 405 Method Not Allowed (https://svn.kde.org) |
| 11:06.48 | thiago_home | home/kde/ missing |
| 11:06.56 | Kalidarn | i was trying to check out the code witht he possibility of porting it to Qt4 :P |
| 11:07.04 | Kalidarn | *with |
| 11:07.45 | thiago_home | fix your URL and you'll be able to check it out |
| 11:07.49 | Kalidarn | ah k |
| 11:08.42 | Kalidarn | thiago_home: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/unmaintained/3/ktetrinet/ that's the web url |
| 11:08.49 | Kalidarn | it doesn't have home/kde in it |
| 11:09.00 | thiago_home | websvn isn't the repository |
| 11:09.07 | thiago_home | the repository starts in /home/kde |
| 11:09.08 | Kalidarn | ah k |
| 11:09.25 | Kalidarn | got it :) |
| 11:09.46 | Kalidarn | mmm it wants a password. |
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| 11:10.11 | Kalidarn | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=KDE+Subversion+HOWTO doesn't mention it :P |
| 11:10.48 | thiago_home | sure it does |
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| 11:11.51 | Kalidarn | ah yeah i should be using svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/ |
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| 11:15.25 | Kalidarn | lame it wasn't done much :P |
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| 11:19.04 | BdeV | hee |
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| 11:19.44 | BdeV | i´ve a problem whit starting kde |
| 11:20.07 | BdeV | the warning: Could not start kdstartupconfig. Check your installation |
| 11:20.07 | jrodger | what is the problem |
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| 11:20.32 | jrodger | seen that before, you get to the text login right? |
| 11:20.32 | jpatrick | moin Sho_ |
| 11:20.46 | BdeV | jpatrick: yes |
| 11:21.23 | BdeV | i can login as root and as BdeV there |
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| 11:21.33 | jrodger | can you start the graphics from there? startx? |
| 11:21.56 | BdeV | yes that works |
| 11:22.12 | BdeV | but then.. |
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| 11:22.45 | jrodger | so your xsystem starts from the text login, can you run updates then? |
| 11:22.53 | BdeV | yes |
| 11:22.58 | jrodger | what distro you running? |
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| 11:23.46 | BdeV | jpatrick: whats a distro? |
| 11:23.54 | jpatrick | jrodger: ^ |
| 11:24.02 | jrodger | what graphics card you running? |
| 11:24.16 | jrodger | distribution, what Linux are you running? |
| 11:24.41 | BdeV | kde 3.5 |
| 11:24.54 | aleksanteri | BdeV, linux is a kernel, and gnu provides a set of programs. distro makers make an os based on them, and that os is called a dstro |
| 11:24.57 | aleksanteri | distro * |
| 11:25.06 | aleksanteri | BdeV, ubuntu, fedora, gentoo, red hat, ... are distros |
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| 11:25.15 | BdeV | aleksanteri: aaa thanks |
| 11:25.17 | BdeV | debian:) |
| 11:26.02 | jrodger | oh? with Fedora, I tried running the updates but I found that the graphics card caused the error you are getting (mine is nvidia). |
| 11:26.14 | Sho_ | jpatrick: yep, moin :) |
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| 11:27.13 | BdeV | but whats the problem ? can i configre kstartupconfig? |
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| 11:29.11 | jrodger | I guess so, I ended up going to the Fedora forum page and typing in the error, there was already a solution listed and I followed that and it fixed the issue |
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| 11:34.20 | BdeV | jrodger: is there a solution for my problem? |
| 11:39.27 | jrodger | Have you been to the Debian Forum? I cannot really remember what I did, it was when I was rebuilding my unit everysecond day, so maybe that fixed it, but the forums are a great information source |
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| 11:43.25 | BdeV | jrodger: i was there but couldn´t found the solution |
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| 11:50.15 | Peter | # find enlightenment |
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| 11:52.15 | Peter | #join e |
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| 11:52.48 | jpatrick | Peter: /cs list #e* |
| 11:52.54 | jpatrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.07 | jrodger | What is the exact error message? |
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| 11:54.39 | BdeV | jrodger: Could not start kstartupconfig. Check you installation. |
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| 11:56.06 | jrodger | I'll have a look for you...hold on |
| 11:56.13 | BdeV | oke fine:D |
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| 11:59.47 | jrodger | try this...."chown username.username -R /home/username" (adding your username, of course) seemed to fix it for me |
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| 12:00.12 | BdeV | i will try |
| 12:00.12 | annma | hi all |
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| 12:00.59 | risto | Hi! Is it so that KDE4 wont start it's services (KDED) so konqueror would get cookie support (cannot log in to bugs.kde.org)? |
| 12:01.36 | BdeV | jrodger: he has no acces to /home/bdev |
| 12:01.39 | BdeV | strange |
| 12:02.50 | jrodger | or this - http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=31577 - go down to Teryel, he has a step by step |
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| 12:03.11 | BdeV | there isn´t a map bdev in /home/ |
| 12:03.13 | BdeV | :S |
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| 12:03.42 | jrodger | try the above link, it has a delete user and create user in the info |
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| 12:05.02 | RichiH | is there any way to make konqueror request a different language from the website? |
| 12:05.09 | RichiH | without changing ENV stuff |
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| 12:08.05 | jrodger | Any luck? |
| 12:08.48 | BdeV | jrodger: yes! that helps!! thanks a lot. So it helps to add a new users in the /home/ directory |
| 12:09.31 | jrodger | did it fix your problem? |
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| 12:10.07 | BdeV | yes, I reboot now so i will ses |
| 12:10.07 | BdeV | see |
| 12:10.55 | BdeV | yes it works!!!!! now i´m going to dance |
| 12:11.34 | jrodger | I hope you're a better dancer than I am, I have three left feet! |
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| 12:12.06 | BdeV | three? |
| 12:12.07 | BdeV | oke |
| 12:12.22 | flithm | hey everyone... is there a way to tell Dolphin to load previews for files greater than 5 megs (using dolphin v0.9.2)? |
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| 12:14.49 | annma | flithm: yes, look in Settings -> Configure Dolphin |
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| 12:15.16 | flithm | annma: I'm in there, where? there's not many options in here and I've scanned it quite a few times |
| 12:15.24 | annma | View Modes |
| 12:15.36 | annma | General _> File Preview |
| 12:15.40 | risto | How i start KDED on KDE4? |
| 12:15.44 | annma | there's a slider |
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| 12:16.38 | flithm | annma: what? where? I see a few sliders... but all of these are for icon size |
| 12:16.59 | annma | flithm: wait |
| 12:17.36 | risto | flithm: Settings > Configure Dolphin > View Modes and slider on "General" tab. |
| 12:18.05 | flithm | risto: whoa I don't have a "General" tab in there |
| 12:18.19 | flithm | risto: I'm still using kde 3.5 maybe that's it? |
| 12:18.24 | risto | flithm: yeah... |
| 12:18.36 | risto | you have 0.8.2 version then. |
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| 12:18.47 | flithm | it says 0.9.2 |
| 12:18.55 | risto | sorry, 0.9.2 :-D |
| 12:19.15 | risto | KDE4 has 1.0.2 |
| 12:19.30 | maki_d_ | flithm: in the topic there is State your distribution and KDE version, that is also for the apps :) |
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| 12:19.49 | annma_ | shit I was cut |
| 12:19.51 | annma_ | flithm: kde3 or kde4? |
| 12:19.51 | flithm | maki_d_: I actually did state the program version :) |
| 12:19.53 | annma_ | I don't care about dolphin version |
| 12:20.30 | flithm | how about I just use dolphin from kde4. seems like the kde3.5 one doesn't have the option |
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| 12:21.25 | maki_d_ | flithm: it will look litle wierd in kde3 ..... |
| 12:21.31 | annma | flithm: dolphin for kde3 is NOT a kde program |
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| 12:21.47 | annma | it's not in kde3 repository so ask your distro about it |
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| 12:22.15 | flithm | okay so here's something weird... the dolphin from kde3 (but not from kde :)) loads previews for pdf files, but the dolphin from kde4 doesn't -- any way to get dolphin from kde4 to preview pdf's? |
| 12:22.40 | pinotree | install the pdf thumbnailer? |
| 12:22.57 | pinotree | dolphin does nothing on its own |
| 12:23.12 | annma | flithm: dolphin for kde4 is a file manager |
| 12:23.20 | annma | not an integrated viewer |
| 12:23.31 | risto | I need to get KDED running to get konqueror4 to have a cookie support. How i start it? |
| 12:23.35 | annma | it opens Okular for pdf |
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| 12:24.35 | flithm | so kde4 can thumbnail pdfs? i should ask my distro what they've done wrong basically? |
| 12:24.53 | annma | risto: should work when kde needs it |
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| 12:25.42 | risto | annma: System Settings tells that KDED is not running. And i dont have cookie support for konqueror so i cannot open bugs.kde.org with konqueror4. |
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| 12:27.04 | risto | I can always start it by manually but i would like to get it automatically started. Of course i could make "fix" by adding it to ~/.kde/Autostart but... |
| 12:27.22 | annma | risto: how did you get kde4? |
| 12:27.58 | risto | KDE packages for Mandriva. Unoffical's and now on this machine it's cooker version (2008 spring). |
| 12:28.06 | risto | And both have same problem. |
| 12:28.07 | annma | risto: here compiled from KDE svn and it's OK |
| 12:28.26 | annma | maybe a Mandriva problem |
| 12:29.14 | risto | Yah, i think so. But always updating this one from cooker to see when it's gets fixed. |
| 12:29.54 | Smak | Using Ktorrent I have noticed in the status list that some clients connect, request upload and then time out or something. Where I am not sending them anything but my upload slots are still being used. Might this be a bug, or another client trying to stop me form sharing? |
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| 12:30.28 | initng | hello guys |
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| 12:30.46 | initng | my kde4 somehow was compiled without strigi support. what do i need to install to fix that? |
| 12:30.53 | risto | Smak: Have you asked from Ktorrent forum? |
| 12:31.13 | Smak | risto: just (as in 2 minutes ago) noticed it |
| 12:31.42 | annma | initng: you need strigi and recompile kde |
| 12:31.48 | annma | initng: distro? |
| 12:32.10 | pinotree | initng: cannot be, strigi is mandatory for kdelibs |
| 12:32.14 | risto | Smak: I dont know is there a different ktorrent channel for that but #ktorrent is empty, i suggest you ask from ktorrent forum. |
| 12:32.22 | initng | annma, gentoo. Strigi was installed at that time.... maybe i am missing strigi support somewhere? i'm rather new to kde 4 =) |
| 12:32.47 | annma | initng: ask in #gentoo then |
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| 12:33.20 | Smak | risto: not that important. I might post later. |
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| 12:33.41 | initng | annma, reasonable. Thanks |
| 12:34.13 | initng | how can i check if strigi is at all supported? i thought it's configuration interface was a strigi:/ kioslave, isn't it? |
| 12:34.18 | annma | #gentoo-kde even initng |
| 12:34.29 | annma | initng: do you have the build dir still? |
| 12:35.02 | initng | annma, nope, i use split ebuilds, they do clean up after themselves |
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| 12:35.23 | annma | if so, edit the CMakeCache.txt file in kdelibs and search for strigi |
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| 12:35.36 | annma | split ebuilds? for kde4? |
| 12:35.43 | initng | yep |
| 12:35.45 | annma | cleaned? |
| 12:35.49 | annma | what a waste |
| 12:36.00 | initng | i think that too |
| 12:36.19 | initng | they've decided monolithic ebuilds were too confusing and too hard to maintain |
| 12:36.23 | annma | so do ask in #gentoo-kde |
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| 13:23.50 | initng | hmm |
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| 13:25.42 | soa2ii | Hi! How can I set the font with konqueror displays website-text? The control center just sets the menu texts and so on... |
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| 13:28.27 | pinotree | settings → configure konqueror → fonts? |
| 13:28.42 | soa2ii | Hm... |
| 13:28.51 | soa2ii | There are still some bexes :/ |
| 13:29.03 | pinotree | choose a better font |
| 13:29.03 | soa2ii | I thought there would be smth else I hanvent found yet |
| 13:29.12 | soa2ii | I've chosen Arial |
| 13:29.24 | soa2ii | pinotree: Wich one is better in your opinion? |
| 13:29.52 | pinotree | the one you like, of course |
| 13:29.59 | soa2ii | Hrhr... |
| 13:30.07 | soa2ii | I liked the KDE standard font too... |
| 13:30.07 | Jejem | pinotree: your arrows rocks |
| 13:30.40 | soa2ii | I'm just looking for one wich can display most of those funny sgns (: |
| 13:31.00 | pinotree | (... tried "symbols"?) |
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| 13:32.08 | soa2ii | (: |
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| 13:37.27 | soa2ii | Schade.. weder Arial, Helvetica, Terminus oder Times haben die Symbole... |
| 13:37.35 | soa2ii | :S german |
| 13:38.10 | soa2ii | I said neither arial, helvetica, terminus nor time got the symbols |
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| 13:58.30 | initng | how do i use strigi in kde 4.0.2? |
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| 14:18.35 | wdah3 | hi there, I just wanted to ask if this (Job Progress for KDE 4) is still being worked on: http://static.kdenews.org/dannya/vol4_mockup.jpg |
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| 14:30.30 | nplus | Hi, is the problem with the del key in kate (kde4 trunk) fixed? I don't want to compile in vain :D |
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| 14:33.04 | initng | nplus, what was the problem? |
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| 14:33.55 | initng | nplus, also ask at #kde-devel |
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| 14:35.06 | nplus | del isn't working since 4.0.1 |
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| 14:35.41 | nplus | initng, or it is? :D |
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| 14:35.53 | initng | i'm using 4.0.2 right now, and it works perfectly |
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| 14:39.10 | nplus | initng, ok, i'll co and compile |
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| 14:42.27 | dnanar | hi ! |
| 14:42.56 | dnanar | i'm trying to use konqueror on this webpage : https://www1.admission-postbac.fr/Postbac/index.html konqueror does not even success to get datas from the server (translated from french : "A probleme occured during the loading of : webpage url. Impossible to connect to host www1.admission-postbac.fr.") ? (kde version : 3.5.9, konqueror version : 3.5.9) |
| 14:43.01 | dnanar | does anyone know how to access to the page with konqueror please ? |
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| 14:46.20 | initng | confirm that |
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| 14:47.22 | initng | possibly some ssl-related problem |
| 14:47.22 | dnanar | initng: you have got the same problem than me ? |
| 14:47.31 | initng | dnanar, yep |
| 14:48.16 | dnanar | ok |
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| 14:52.32 | initng | i guess that should be debugged someway |
| 14:52.41 | initng | and that's most probably server misconfiguratio |
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| 14:53.11 | initng | also ask at #kde-devel |
| 14:53.17 | initng | also ask at #konqueror |
| 14:53.21 | dnanar | ok, i'm doing it :-) |
| 14:53.26 | dnanar | i already asked at konqueror |
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| 14:55.27 | shadok | strange, i can display the page correctly as it seems |
| 14:55.40 | dnanar | :o |
| 14:55.44 | shadok | konqui 3.5.9 |
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| 14:57.14 | shadok | http://omploader.org/vZWhl/konqui.png |
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| 14:58.19 | dnanar | yes it is the right page |
| 14:58.56 | Jejem | still shadok here |
| 14:59.07 | shadok | yep :) |
| 14:59.20 | dnanar | you don't know how to get more informations about what is going wrong please ? |
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| 15:00.46 | shadok | dnanar: try changing the user agent maybe ? it seems very strange to me that i can get the page and you can't |
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| 15:01.09 | dnanar | shadok: which user agent are you using ? |
| 15:01.48 | shadok | i just tried with IE6 on Xp but it changed nothing |
| 15:02.00 | shadok | the default one gives me the same page |
| 15:03.28 | dnanar | it doesn't change anything on my computer |
| 15:03.43 | shadok | same here, that was just a try |
| 15:04.22 | shadok | what's you distro ? |
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| 15:06.34 | shadok | haha what a bunch of fools : "sur les liens suivant " the can't even make a website without spelling errors |
| 15:06.55 | dnanar | shadok: debian |
| 15:07.39 | dnanar | shadok: it is the french ministery of education, this site is intended to help students to choose their university (subscriptions) |
| 15:07.44 | dnanar | ^_^ |
| 15:08.34 | shadok | hehe i know, i'm french too :) |
| 15:08.40 | dnanar | ah ok :-) |
| 15:08.55 | dnanar | you re a student ? |
| 15:09.14 | shadok | not anymore |
| 15:09.30 | dnanar | ok :-) |
| 15:09.36 | shadok | any idea if debian uses a "vanilla" kde ? |
| 15:09.53 | jpatrick | shadok: considering the patches we put in.... not |
| 15:09.53 | dnanar | i don't think so i use kde 3.5.9 |
| 15:09.58 | initng | debian patches everything) |
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| 15:11.17 | shadok | the problem have to come from the config/build |
| 15:11.37 | drakoumel | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.43 | pinotree | initng: oh, and gentoo as well - just like any distro |
| 15:11.53 | pinotree | drakoumel: ##linux please |
| 15:12.04 | initng | drakoumel, rm -r folder/* |
| 15:12.15 | initng | pinotree, yes, of course |
| 15:12.33 | initng | guys, is there a place for 3rd-party plasma widgets? |
| 15:13.00 | initng | i need something like network monitor and system monitor kde-3 kicker applets |
| 15:13.01 | shadok | pinotree: that was just to check if we had the same distro, in which case i could have given him my useflags and all |
| 15:13.25 | pinotree | shadok: use flags do not belong to this channel |
| 15:13.42 | initng | shadok, #gentoo-kde for that |
| 15:13.51 | pinotree | that's it |
| 15:14.05 | shadok | hey that was just to help dnanar :) |
| 15:14.13 | shadok | i don't have his problem |
| 15:14.47 | shadok | anyway, he's gone |
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| 15:26.08 | dnanar | erf i tried to reboot without success |
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| 15:28.59 | kaie | Is KDE 4 still providing kde-config or an equivalent? Can't find it in Fedora Rawhide. Only find it in kdelibs3, which is probably a backward compatibility lib |
| 15:29.21 | pinotree | kde4-config? |
| 15:29.42 | pinotree | and no, probably kdelibs3 is the kde libraries for kde3 |
| 15:30.07 | kaie | pinotree, great thank you |
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| 15:52.21 | comhack | hello all I got a question: I just installed Arch Linux on a new computer I recently built and my sound works fine except for any kde notifications which are all static. I am running kdemod (kde 3.5.9) and I have tried changing the system notifications to aplay instead of play in kcontrol with no luck. Any ideals? |
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| 15:53.19 | dwarder | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.25 | dwarder | in xterm |
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| 15:54.54 | pinotree | dwarder: wrong channel, sorry |
| 15:55.07 | dwarder | kk |
| 15:56.51 | Jejem | lol |
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| 16:04.03 | even | hi! |
| 16:04.19 | even | i'm having problems with kmobiletools, anyone use that?! |
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| 16:08.13 | CharminTheMoose | I'm having a problem browsing sites with Konquerer, it seems to be horrendously slow when ever i load a webpage, it takes quite a long time to display everything fully.. |
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| 16:31.47 | rechosen | Hello |
| 16:32.33 | rechosen | How can I prevent my window focus from changing whenever I scroll (using the mouse wheel) in a different window that the one that has focus? |
| 16:33.30 | rechosen | For example: when Konsole is on top of Firefox, I'd like to be able to scroll down in the webpage and then type on in Konsole without clicking the focus back to Konsole. |
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| 16:34.58 | annma | focus follow mouse maybe? |
| 16:35.10 | annma | hmm no mouse |
| 16:35.30 | annma | did you try all choices? |
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| 16:35.59 | shadok | i'd say focus follow mouse too, with auto raise disabled |
| 16:36.07 | shadok | that's what i'm using |
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| 16:37.03 | rechosen | Well, on other distro's, it used to be like this: focus on clicking, and no focus on scrolling (though the scrolling did work). I found this to be very convenient. |
| 16:37.38 | annma | and why doesn't that work now? |
| 16:38.16 | rechosen | annma: I don't know. I recently installed the newest version of Pardus, and from the beginning it worked in this new way, that makes focus follow scrolling. |
| 16:38.38 | annma | then ask in Pardus maybe |
| 16:38.52 | annma | Pardus channel |
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| 16:46.46 | rechosen | No answer in Pardus so far. Just a lot of Turkish chatter =) |
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| 16:50.02 | szymon_g | hi |
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| 16:54.01 | szymon_g | how can i enforce gtk2 programs (e.g. firefox) to use qt3-style :? i cannot find it in kcontrol (kde 3.5.8, debian lenny) |
| 16:54.50 | initng | szymon_g, install package gtk-engines-qt or similar |
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| 16:56.46 | szymon_g | thanx |
| 16:58.45 | szymon_g | oh, and another question: when i started kde first time, i had a wizard (you know: select language etc, etc)- how can i restart it? |
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| 16:59.40 | shadok | szymon_g: deleting you ~/.kde will do it but you'll lose all settings |
| 17:00.10 | shadok | s/you/your |
| 17:00.31 | Wofl | hey, how can i set kde to switch keyboard layout on a shortcut |
| 17:00.36 | szymon_g | :/ |
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| 17:00.53 | Wofl | the only shorcut avayable to set is next layout, but how do i switch back? |
| 17:00.59 | pinotree | szymon_g: kpersonalizer |
| 17:01.16 | EnsGabe | Is there a way to configure ksystemtray to use multiple rows of icons? |
| 17:01.30 | shadok | szymon_g: there must be a way to call back the wizard but i don't know how, anyway runnign the wizard will certainly delete your actual settings |
| 17:01.50 | shadok | EnsGabe: enlarging kicker vertically does that |
| 17:01.58 | Wofl | and if i set it in keyboard layouts, to switch on both win keys or something, then that doesnt work at all |
| 17:02.01 | pinotree | shadok: false, it'll delete nothing, ust overwrite |
| 17:02.17 | pinotree | (in case you tell it to do that) |
| 17:02.23 | EnsGabe | shadok: kicker is already two rows tall- does it need to be larger? |
| 17:02.49 | shadok | that's what i meant, without thinking about the implications :) (and i didn't know we could tell it to not do it) |
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| 17:03.30 | shadok | EnsGabe: mine has 50px in height |
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| 17:08.22 | szymon_g | bye |
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| 17:23.14 | sbucat | hello i am searchin how to create a button that close computer on my interface with dcop |
| 17:23.24 | sbucat | but when i load kdcop |
| 17:23.39 | sbucat | i can't see power management |
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| 17:24.03 | sbucat | is aviable some documentation ? |
| 17:24.52 | pinotree | what do you mean with "close computer"? shutdown? |
| 17:25.02 | EnsGabe | shadok: my kicker is 47 px tall- how do I increase the size? |
| 17:25.18 | sbucat | pinotree: right , sorry i mean shutdown |
| 17:25.26 | shadok | EnsGabe: => configure kicker >arrangement > size |
| 17:25.50 | pinotree | sbucat: you need to interact with ksmserver |
| 17:25.59 | EnsGabe | shadok: Found it. Spoke before I looked :) |
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| 17:26.07 | pinotree | and in particular with its logout method |
| 17:26.08 | shadok | :) |
| 17:26.08 | EnsGabe | Thanks |
| 17:26.12 | shadok | np |
| 17:26.44 | sbucat | pinotree: thank y |
| 17:26.57 | pinotree | whose three integer parameters are the values of the Shutdown* enums as in http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html |
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| 17:27.02 | EnsGabe | Sometimes, thought, an app will have a ginormous icon (usually pidgin.) Is there a KDE way to fix that, or should I take it up with the app devs? |
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| 17:27.29 | chiiph | kicker isn't flashing when a message arrives in a kopete window... does any one knows why could this be? |
| 17:27.59 | shadok | EnsGabe: i didn't encountered that (i don't use pigdin though) but i suppose it's a pigdin's problem |
| 17:28.03 | dwinslow | chiiph: look in kopete's notification settings and make sure it's actually configured to flash it |
| 17:28.15 | chiiph | dwinslow: yes it is... |
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| 17:33.28 | chiiph | i've che kopete.eventsrc with another one from a friend's computer and they are the same... |
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| 17:36.47 | blueyed | Does "Suspend to disk" does anything for you in KDE 4.0.2? (It does nothing in Kubuntu and I could not find a bug report on b.k.o about it) |
| 17:37.11 | blueyed | (from the Shutdown/End session dialog) |
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| 17:37.25 | thiago_home | who are you talking to? |
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| 17:40.38 | blueyed | thiago_home: I'm asking a general question, for confirmation that it's not broken in Kubuntu only.. |
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| 17:41.46 | imboscat | mm pinotree i can only see logout and not shutdown |
| 17:41.58 | imboscat | on ksmserver |
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| 17:42.17 | pinotree | imboscat: reread what i said before... |
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| 17:42.36 | thiago_home | blueyed: asking "for you" is bizarre then. It looks like you were talking to someone in specific. |
| 17:43.01 | KIL0 | thiago_home: you is plural too ... |
| 17:43.21 | imboscat | pinotree: unluckly i have clicked on logout before and i have lost your words =( |
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| 17:43.51 | pinotree | <pinotree> whose three integer parameters are the values of the Shutdown* enums as in http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html |
| 17:44.21 | thiago_home | KIL0: I know, but he should have asked "for anyone" |
| 17:44.52 | imboscat | pinotree: thank y |
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| 17:58.52 | blueyed | So, does "Suspend to disk" (from the Shutdown/End session dialog) does anything for anyone in KDE 4.0.2? (it does nothing in Kubuntu at least) |
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| 18:03.16 | boggystudios | when I change the background picture of the panel I notice a grey line at the top of it. How do I get rid of that line? |
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| 18:18.00 | arkascha | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.05 | g2g591 | arkascha: seems to work fine here (on svn |
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| 18:19.41 | arkascha | g2g591: ? sorry, forgot the details... using xorg 7.3 @ opensuse-10.3. |
| 18:19.51 | arkascha | g2g591: what is working is switching the screen resolution |
| 18:19.57 | arkascha | g2g591: but not the layout |
| 18:20.06 | arkascha | g2g591: working at your side ? how that ?!? |
| 18:20.55 | g2g591 | im using Gentoo, xorg 7.3, kde 4.0.66 |
| 18:21.01 | arkascha | g2g591: the problem seems to be randr-1.2 which is not really supported by and graphics driver if I get it right |
| 18:21.31 | arkascha | g2g591: ok, I am using kde in business, so no kde-4 :-) I will stick to kde-3.5.9 for the next month |
| 18:21.44 | DobosCake | g2g591 - How did you install kde 4? |
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| 18:22.37 | g2g591 | DobosCake: Gentoo's svn ebuilds, they download and build kde from trunk just fine (gentoo has other svn/cvs ebuilds for a couple other things too) |
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| 18:24.14 | tenner | hello, this might sound a bit strange but what do you call a window that is present on all workspaces? i think you have a litte button for that too. is is "sticky" |
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| 18:26.00 | g2g591 | oops my computer froze |
| 18:26.02 | g2g591 | sry if anyone tried to message me |
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| 18:27.01 | KIL0 | g2g591: kde 4 ... ? |
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| 18:27.04 | KIL0 | :) |
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| 18:28.18 | g2g591 | KIL0: im using the trunk, which will become 4.1, i installed using Gentoo's svn ebuilds (ebuild="package" ) , so everytime i run the command to install kde 4, it updates the source and recompiles it |
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| 18:28.28 | bjoernb | hi |
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| 18:29.33 | arkascha | g2g591: just to make this clear: you say krandrtray works and can change the screens setup in kde-4 ? |
| 18:30.09 | g2g591 | arkascha: it does in my current svn checkout, i have no idea about the released versions of 4.0.x |
| 18:30.41 | arkascha | g2g591: so you can configure two screen apart from each other ? different resolution on the fly ? |
| 18:31.08 | g2g591 | arkascha: no idea about 2 different screens, but i can just right click on the tray app and select a new resolution |
| 18:31.26 | arkascha | g2g591: no, thats working in kde 3.5.x as well |
| 18:31.34 | arkascha | g2g591: right click and select "setup" |
| 18:31.39 | arkascha | g2g591: what happens ? |
| 18:32.12 | g2g591 | arkascha: there is no "setup" , there is configure display though... |
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| 18:32.20 | arkascha | g2g591: sorry: thas what I meant |
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| 18:32.44 | g2g591 | that brings up the same thing as systemsetting -> Display |
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| 18:33.28 | arkascha | g2g591: sorry, I dont know your distro. What can you configure there. 2 screens ? |
| 18:33.54 | g2g591 | it has options about the refresh rate, size, orentation, (and greyed out, as i have 1 display) positon:clone of (like theres a drop down menu there) |
| 18:34.26 | g2g591 | oh, and you can adjust the gamma and power save settings |
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| 18:35.02 | arkascha | g2g591: hmm, cant really decide if its worth cecking out to port it to 3.5.x... hmmmmm |
| 18:35.16 | g2g591 | Gentoo has mostly vanilla of everything, with just a few patches to fix bugs here and there |
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| 18:35.31 | arkascha | g2g591: another question: do you have the randr extensions on in your xorg setup file ? |
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| 18:35.34 | g2g591 | heck, i can even install dpkg and rpm on gentoo |
| 18:35.49 | g2g591 | arkascha: i dont think so.... |
| 18:36.18 | arkascha | g2g591: thought so, so its probably the "normal" x setup control utility |
| 18:37.10 | arkascha | g2g591: ok, thanks, I'll take a dive into subversion anyway, feel like hacking a little :-) |
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| 18:49.13 | invite_ | Anywhere else to look in ? |
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| 19:03.14 | x_link | Hi |
| 19:03.18 | x_link | Does anybody here use Ktorrent? |
| 19:03.38 | thiago_home | yes |
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| 19:06.04 | x_link | thiago_home: Okey, does it work fine for you now? |
| 19:06.13 | x_link | It has been really strange for me this last couple of days. |
| 19:06.20 | x_link | It turns off by itself etc. |
| 19:06.40 | thiago_home | yes |
| 19:06.41 | x_link | So I thought that it might be buggy right now or something? |
| 19:06.44 | thiago_home | it works for me now |
| 19:06.52 | x_link | Cause it has always been working GREAT for me. |
| 19:06.53 | thiago_home | but I haven't updated my ktorrent in 8 months |
| 19:06.58 | x_link | thiago_home: Okey. |
| 19:07.02 | cb400f | x_link: what version? .. works for fine for me (2.2.5).. haven't tried ktorrent 3.0 much |
| 19:07.05 | x_link | I wonder why it's like this for me. |
| 19:07.08 | thiago_home | so I have no idea why the past few days would change anything |
| 19:07.17 | x_link | cb400f: 2.2.1 |
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| 19:18.47 | nick01 | hi, does kde 4 use openexr image format for anything useful ? |
| 19:20.23 | mat69 | I have problems making kdebase from trunk on Ubuntu (was not able to get that far on my main pc with Kubuntu). See http://pastebin.com/m329643a8 "which meinproc" shows "/usr/bin/meinproc" |
| 19:20.56 | shadok | nick01: if you mean kde is using openexr format for himself, i'd say no |
| 19:21.47 | thiago_home | mat69: update and try again. |
| 19:21.57 | thiago_home | /home/kde-devel/kde/build/KDE/kdebase/runtime/kioslave/fish/fishcode.h:3: error: missing terminating " character |
| 19:22.06 | thiago_home | if that doesn't work, wait a day |
| 19:22.10 | thiago_home | or fix the issue yourself |
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| 19:24.05 | nick01 | shadok, kdebase-kioslaves has an openexr use flag, it seems it's the only kde component that has it |
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| 19:25.06 | shadok | nick01: kdegrpahics has got one too, i suppose it's used to generate thumbnails of those files |
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| 19:25.24 | shadok | if you're not going to use this filetype you can safely disable that flag |
| 19:25.41 | shadok | (kdelibs has it too) |
| 19:25.48 | nick01 | shadok, I see :) tks |
| 19:25.52 | shadok | np |
| 19:26.10 | nick01 | really ? can't see it- on kde 4 ? (long list though) |
| 19:26.41 | mat69 | thiago_home: the affected file seems to be automatically created. The script for that hasn't changed the last months though. So svn up does not help here. |
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| 19:27.40 | zzMish | I put bew pcf/bdf font files into my ~/.fonts directory. How do I make those fonts available to konsole ? |
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| 19:28.11 | thiago_home | are they registered with the X font system? |
| 19:28.21 | thiago_home | are the fonts monospace? |
| 19:28.22 | zzMish | not yet |
| 19:28.24 | zzMish | yes |
| 19:28.28 | shadok | nick01: openexr is a format for hdr images, i can't see anyt useful application of this in a DE given the power required to render such images (take in account that a monitor can only display one exposition at a time) |
| 19:28.57 | zzMish | thiago, I run mkfontdir. What else do I need to register them with x11 font system ? |
| 19:29.18 | thiago_home | zzMish: make sure they are in the fontpath, then run xset fp rehash |
| 19:30.04 | shadok | nick01: if you are not using some 3d rendering program or tweaking with hdri there is no interest having that flag |
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| 19:31.05 | fale | hi |
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| 19:31.31 | DaSkreech | yo |
| 19:32.12 | jpatrick | hi DaSkreech |
| 19:32.18 | zzMish | can i print font path ? |
| 19:32.36 | thiago_home | zzMish: xset q |
| 19:32.39 | nick01 | shadok, tks for solving my problem, not using that use flag and I started compiling - I hope it will be done by tomorrow |
| 19:32.45 | nick01 | :P |
| 19:32.47 | DaSkreech | waves at the jpatrick man |
| 19:32.50 | DaSkreech | coughs |
| 19:33.01 | DaSkreech | teh jpatrick man My apologies |
| 19:33.17 | jpatrick | :-/ what? |
| 19:33.45 | shadok | nick01: it takes a few hours on my athlon x2 2.2 ghz, but i didn't hve that many kde programs |
| 19:34.14 | DaSkreech | jpatrick: I misspelled my misspelling of the |
| 19:34.19 | zzMish | thiago_home, right, I got them listed in the xlsfonts. Now what ? |
| 19:34.36 | thiago_home | zzMish: they should be available now |
| 19:35.19 | nick01 | shadok, 360 mb on a celeron D here :D |
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| 19:35.42 | zzMish | thiago, nope |
| 19:35.56 | shadok | nick01: ouch ! :p |
| 19:36.18 | nick01 | :P yeah |
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| 19:36.57 | mat69 | thiago_home: the troubleshooting guide says that "which meinproc" ought to return "/home/kde-devel/kde/bin/meinproc" but does not mention what to do if that is not the case (here). do you know if that is a big problem? |
| 19:37.33 | thiago_home | mat69: where is your meinproc? |
| 19:37.43 | pinotree | it's wrong, it's meinproc4 now |
| 19:37.50 | mat69 | thiago_home: /usr/bin/meinproc |
| 19:37.51 | thiago_home | good point |
| 19:37.53 | thiago_home | meinproc4 |
| 19:37.56 | mat69 | oh |
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| 19:38.00 | thiago_home | update the troubleshooting guide |
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| 19:39.17 | mat69 | thiago_home: meinproc4 seems to have the correct location "/home/kde-devel/kde/bin/meinproc4" (with update do you mean me?) |
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| 19:39.30 | utopia_ | i'm using k3b to burn CD's/DVD's, ive used it before and it work but this time it gives me an error about the locale set and that no device can be found to burn |
| 19:39.37 | thiago_home | yes, you |
| 19:39.40 | utopia_ | but when i go to preferences it is listed |
| 19:42.26 | utopia_ | ah i see why |
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| 19:45.07 | mat69 | thiago_home: ok, changing it on all languages :) |
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| 19:57.52 | Alien_Freak | quick question... is there anyway to make firefox use okular as it's pdf viewer instead of the bloated acroread? |
| 19:59.29 | pinotree | Alien_Freak: i think it belongs more to the #firefox channel... |
| 19:59.31 | Mrrrrz0r | stop it using acroread's plugin? |
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| 20:04.55 | Flare183 | Can someone tell me where I can get the kde library's? |
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| 20:06.11 | pinotree | install it from your distro? |
| 20:06.33 | DrZimmerman | hi all |
| 20:07.03 | DrZimmerman | just i short question, does someone know if and when the flash problem in konqueror gets a fix (if ever)? |
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| 20:07.41 | pinotree | kde version? |
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| 20:07.55 | litb | hello all |
| 20:08.02 | litb | what does this mean for GHNS? |
| 20:08.05 | litb | http://www.k-d-w.org/node/40 |
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| 20:08.15 | pinotree | Get Hot New Stuff |
| 20:08.28 | litb | i mean, what does that mean for it? |
| 20:08.40 | litb | i heard it will be recommended to freedesktop? |
| 20:08.57 | pinotree | GHNS is already a freedesktop.org specification |
| 20:09.23 | DrZimmerman | pinotree: 3.5.8 |
| 20:09.24 | Flare183 | no. For example I am creating KDEFox from Firefox but I need the KDE libraries in order to change the GTK ones to KDE ones. |
| 20:09.35 | pinotree | DrZimmerman: update to kde 3.5.9 |
| 20:09.47 | pinotree | Flare183: ??? |
| 20:10.02 | Flare183 | what? |
| 20:10.17 | pinotree | are you rewriting firefox for kde or what? |
| 20:10.31 | Flare183 | yes I am |
| 20:10.38 | pinotree | laughs |
| 20:10.46 | Tm_T | pinotree: ssssh |
| 20:10.55 | Flare183 | Respect is needed |
| 20:11.14 | DrZimmerman | pinotree: ok sry, didn't know that 3.5.8 is out already, gentoo is still at 3.5.8 |
| 20:11.38 | pinotree | Flare183: just like for what i said: you asked where to get the kde libraries, and i told you to install them from your distribution |
| 20:11.43 | DrZimmerman | s/3.5.8/3.5.9 of course :) |
| 20:11.54 | pinotree | Flare183: they *are* packaged by all the distros |
| 20:12.20 | pinotree | and the distros give you all the ways to be able to develop with them, as well |
| 20:12.24 | Flare183 | ok so I don't use the source packages on the ftp? |
| 20:12.36 | pinotree | you don't need to |
| 20:12.57 | pinotree | (if you want, free to do that) |
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| 20:30.00 | xjunior | please, knetworkmanager is crashing! http://paste.milk-it.net/495 |
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| 20:32.06 | KaV | hello i need a guide on installing flash on konqueror amd64 |
| 20:33.03 | vipw | KaV: there's no such thing |
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| 20:33.18 | vipw | KaV: try/buy cx office and install flash from it |
| 20:33.29 | KaV | so on firefox is possible |
| 20:33.33 | KaV | but on konqueror not ? |
| 20:33.34 | vipw | or try to find some tutorial, maybe it can be done with wine |
| 20:33.45 | vipw | hm, KaV, the'y share plugins |
| 20:33.59 | vipw | KaV: have you "searched for new plugins"? |
| 20:34.03 | KaV | yy |
| 20:34.16 | KaV | flash works on firefox-bin |
| 20:34.32 | KaV | i addes the source path |
| 20:34.43 | KaV | added* |
| 20:35.02 | vipw | What's in plugins, netscape plugins, plugins? :) |
| 20:35.15 | vipw | (in konq's configuration) |
| 20:35.19 | KaV | libflashplayer.so libnullplugin.so mplayerplug-in-qt.so mplayerplug-in-qt.xpt mplayerplug-in.so mplayerplug-in.xpt |
| 20:35.33 | KaV | ok wait |
| 20:35.47 | KaV | mplayer only |
| 20:36.10 | vipw | libflashplayer.so <- |
| 20:36.30 | vipw | expand the tree, is there app/futuresplash, x-shockwave-flash? |
| 20:36.38 | vipw | mimetypes |
| 20:36.41 | KaV | ok |
| 20:36.42 | KaV | wait |
| 20:37.22 | KaV | no is not there... i got all multimedia mime types |
| 20:37.25 | KaV | from mplayer plugins |
| 20:37.47 | KaV | i addes the path on /opt/firefox/plugins/ and i searched for new plugins |
| 20:37.58 | KaV | but i think i cannot use it because is a 32bit plugin |
| 20:38.05 | KaV | and my konqueror is 64 right ? |
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| 20:38.40 | litb | meh :/ |
| 20:38.44 | litb | i'm a Dorky Nerd King |
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| 20:41.06 | KaV | is there any way to use nspluginwrapper on konqueror ? |
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| 20:41.38 | jamesd | thinks that all browsers should be built in 32bit, mode for all distrobutions and should require setting a hidden define to get into 64 bit mode.. who needs 64 bits, and 64 bits breaks all 3rd party plugins and basicly causes nothing but trouble and headaches |
| 20:42.17 | ^^MAg^^ | or we should just kill all fscked up closed src software |
| 20:42.24 | ^^MAg^^ | and replace it with open source version |
| 20:42.27 | ^^MAg^^ | like ati drivers |
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| 20:43.01 | jamesd | ^^MAg^^, thats nice.. but i thought you would like making it onto the common users desktop... if not enjoy wasting your time and effort for just 1-2% of the user base. |
| 20:43.45 | ^^MAg^^ | hey! I use 64bit software :> |
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| 20:44.14 | ^^MAg^^ | "because I Can" |
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| 20:44.18 | jamesd | thats nice.. here is a brownie button... i have 150 64bit servers at work... |
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| 20:45.46 | jamesd | there will soon be 1 billion desktops out there wanting to visit some site with a closed source plugin only availible in 32 bit mode... and your 64bit browser just alleniated them.. |
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| 20:46.48 | ^^MAg^^ | I don't need to watch this site ;) less *tube = more work done ;) |
| 20:47.14 | drantin | which tube? ;D |
| 20:47.31 | jamesd | ^^MAg^^, and the attitude like yours will keep linux from taking over the desktop. congratulation. |
| 20:47.38 | pinotree | jamesd: actually, you could get a multiarch system (but we're getting OT now :) ) |
| 20:48.50 | ^^MAg^^ | drantin: that's why I put * there :> |
| 20:48.56 | jamesd | pinotree, its not important what one even or even all of us could get, the typical user wants a simple system.. with a browser can install plugins seemlessly... thus a 32bit browser untill the world moves to 64 bit |
| 20:49.09 | drantin | so you visit skintube et al from work? |
| 20:49.20 | ^^MAg^^ | skintube? hmm let me see |
| 20:49.25 | pinotree | jamesd: the user can get a simple sistem, if you say them 'install lib32foo' from your distro |
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| 20:49.39 | drantin | ^^MAg^^: it's nsfw... |
| 20:49.48 | ^^MAg^^ | yeah but implementing 32 bit konqueror |
| 20:49.52 | ^^MAg^^ | ane 64bit kdelibs |
| 20:49.56 | ^^MAg^^ | seems to be tricky |
| 20:49.57 | pinotree | you cannot |
| 20:50.02 | ^^MAg^^ | it will be easier |
| 20:50.05 | ^^MAg^^ | to write a simple wrapper |
| 20:50.10 | jamesd | ^^MAg^^, have both... if necessary... |
| 20:50.11 | ^^MAg^^ | for all this closed plugins |
| 20:50.12 | pinotree | like nspluginwrapper? |
| 20:50.17 | ^^MAg^^ | yup |
| 20:50.20 | drantin | grr... random kde-edu app fails on compile every time >_< |
| 20:50.24 | ^^MAg^^ | just like nspluginwrapper |
| 20:50.28 | ^^MAg^^ | and everything works |
| 20:50.33 | pinotree | drantin: ? |
| 20:50.48 | Blade | drantin what gcc compiler version ? |
| 20:50.50 | drantin | hrm... thought it was kde-edu... in kde-base... |
| 20:51.25 | drantin | 4.2.3 |
| 20:51.25 | drantin | app in question: marble |
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| 20:51.33 | drantin | marble-4.0.2 specifically |
| 20:51.43 | Blade | and its kde 4 compile? |
| 20:51.45 | pinotree | can you please in a pastebin the error? |
| 20:51.49 | pinotree | Blade: it is |
| 20:52.03 | Blade | hm.. |
| 20:52.08 | Blade | marble.. |
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| 20:53.03 | retarded | if you are banned from somewhere or not wanted for whatever reason how do you go there again and get something? |
| 20:53.12 | zzMish | If I added pcf font to x11 font system, and did fc-cache, but font does not appear in konsole, what else do I need to do ? |
| 20:53.38 | pinotree | zzMish: do you see them with xfontsel? |
| 20:53.43 | drantin | http://pastebin.com/m163d1243 |
| 20:54.05 | DaSkreech | retarded: Hire a standin ? |
| 20:54.17 | zzMish | pinotree, yes. I see them in xlsfonts |
| 20:54.31 | drantin | using paludis rather than portage on a gentoo system |
| 20:54.34 | pinotree | did you relogin? |
| 20:54.36 | drantin | amd64 |
| 20:54.47 | pinotree | drantin: disable the gps integration in marble |
| 20:54.57 | pinotree | it's a bug in the gpsd library |
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| 20:56.02 | zzMish | pinotree, pc-list does not list them |
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| 20:56.08 | zzMish | pinotree, fc-list does not list them |
| 20:56.18 | pinotree | zzMish: then #xorg please |
| 20:56.30 | zzMish | No it's Qt |
| 20:56.43 | zzMish | x11 guys say this has nothing to do with X11 font system |
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| 20:58.20 | pinotree | zzMish: did you try to relogin? |
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| 20:58.53 | zzMish | no |
| 20:59.03 | zzMish | It's not enough to restart konsole ? |
| 20:59.37 | zzMish | Why would it be not enough to restart the application ? |
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| 21:03.29 | drantin | pinotree: thanks, it's working now |
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| 21:26.36 | litb | will kde adopt webkit with 4.2 ? |
| 21:27.26 | maki_d_ | litb: no, its optional at compile time |
| 21:27.28 | litb | when it'S clever done, we will have only one webkit lib loaded, that can use a gtk, kde, and wx backend |
| 21:27.43 | litb | so no khtml, gecko, wxhtml and whatnot in memory anymore |
| 21:28.06 | maki_d_ | wich kde daemons are safe to shutdown ? |
| 21:28.48 | litb | you don't need the kwriter daemon afaik |
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| 21:29.02 | litb | it is a daemon that listens to wall messages |
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| 21:29.51 | maki_d_ | ok |
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| 21:31.57 | maki_d_ | i have shut down DNS-SD,KDE write, Home base url, remote base url, subversion, system base, kmilo, keep, internet status & network status |
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| 21:40.43 | _billy | hi |
| 21:41.47 | dwinslow | hi _billy |
| 21:42.23 | _billy | i'm new here, what's up ? |
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| 21:43.09 | dwinslow | this isn't really a general chat room, it's for help with KDE |
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| 21:44.08 | mat69 | thiago_home: thank you very much!!! your tipp (fixing that wrong file) worked :) |
| 21:44.30 | _billy | i understand |
| 21:45.19 | jpatrick | _billy: for general chat /join #kde-cafe |
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| 21:47.34 | _billy | thank you jpatrick |
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| 21:48.04 | SpookyET | hi |
| 21:51.06 | SpookyET | no sound with oss4 in v4.0.2 |
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| 21:54.48 | SpookyET | Is there something I have to do to tell it to use OSS |
| 21:54.49 | SpookyET | ? |
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| 22:03.09 | SpookyET | The funny thing is that some linux distribution have moved or are moving to OSS4. Don't ask me why. |
| 22:03.18 | SpookyET | Yopper, Draco come to mind |
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| 22:08.40 | dbglt | is there an application to manage external monitors for kde? |
| 22:09.05 | dbglt | I have a laptop, and plugged in my external monitor, and I don't think I can configure it anyway |
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| 22:10.13 | Skrot | dbglt: KDE 3 or KDE 4? |
| 22:10.40 | dbglt | Skrot: 4 |
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| 22:11.25 | Skrot | dbglt: It depends a bit on your graphics card (and driver), but I think KDE 4 includes support for xrandr 1.2, which is supposed to support monitor hotplugging. Try systemsettings -> Display |
| 22:11.39 | tin | that's a hardware issue most likely |
| 22:11.45 | Skrot | If you're using nvidia with proprietary drivers you can use nvidia-settings |
| 22:11.55 | dbglt | yeah, using nvidia |
| 22:12.07 | dbglt | I was just hoping there was some integrated solution |
| 22:12.08 | dbglt | thanks |
| 22:12.16 | tin | most laptop graphics hardware can only mirror to an external, though some very new nvidia and ati chips might support multihead |
| 22:12.29 | Skrot | I'm not sure if they (nvidia) use xrandr 1.2 or if they have their own solution |
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| 22:14.26 | dbglt | tin: I just want to enable the external monitor at a better resolution, and kill the laptop screen |
| 22:16.10 | tin | dbglt: on all the laptops i've had, there's a key for that |
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| 22:18.49 | tuxman | gnight |
| 22:19.40 | dbglt | tin aye there is a key, but it doesn't set the resolution on the external monitor |
| 22:19.48 | dbglt | just sets it as a clone at the laptop resolution |
| 22:23.01 | tin | you may be able to manually change it after it's swapped |
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| 22:23.42 | tin | i know on my ibook with an old radeon you could change the resolution after the fact, because the chip could do much more than the lcd could |
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| 22:32.27 | neosix | Hello! can anybody tell me how can I remove trash from desktop in KDE? |
| 22:32.39 | neosix | I mean trash icon |
| 22:32.43 | dwinslow | neosix: delete the icon |
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| 22:32.50 | neosix | but how |
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| 22:32.56 | dwinslow | highlight it and press the delete key? |
| 22:33.08 | pinotree | select it, press the Del key? |
| 22:33.15 | neosix | it works |
| 22:33.18 | neosix | thanks |
| 22:33.18 | dwinslow | you can also just disable desktop icons entirely if that's what you're trying to do |
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| 22:42.23 | klebezettel | I use kmail with an IMAP account. kmail displays me a "mail" folder with some sub folders...I don't want to see this in the tree view, how to disable? |
| 22:42.57 | klebezettel | And is there a way to create sub folders? |
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| 22:49.49 | g-hennux | hi! |
| 22:50.04 | g-hennux | i have a problem connecting to a webdav-enabled apache using the webdav:// protocol |
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| 22:50.49 | g-hennux | maybe i'm too stupid, please have a look at http://test.webdav.org/ and tell me what i need to do to access these webdav locations |
| 22:51.59 | g-hennux | ok, this seems to be broken in any webdav client |
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| 23:03.28 | xjunior | what do you think is the better mail clien? |
| 23:03.30 | xjunior | client |
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| 23:36.55 | KrAmMeR | how do i keep windows only on the desktop your on? |
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| 23:41.08 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: what do you mean? |
| 23:41.21 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: like.. as you switch desktops you want the windows to follow you? |
| 23:41.31 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: or .. you want a specific window to be on all the desktops? |
| 23:41.40 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: or you want a given app to always launch of a specific desktop? or? |
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| 23:43.44 | KrAmMeR | aseigo: i want the windows in the taskbar, to disappear when i go to a new desktop |
| 23:44.01 | KrAmMeR | and come back when i go to the desktop that i opened them on |
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| 23:45.09 | KrAmMeR | aseigo: but now that you mention it...i would like to know how to have 1 window on every desktop too... |
| 23:45.21 | KrAmMeR | for something different |
| 23:46.14 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: ah.. the TASKBAR. critical bit of info that ;) configure it to only show windows on the current desktop. it's in the config file. |
| 23:46.47 | aseigo | er, config *dialog* |
| 23:46.53 | KrAmMeR | k |
| 23:47.04 | aseigo | not in 4.0.0 though.. i think only 4.0.2 and up |
| 23:47.08 | aseigo | and certainly in 3.x |
| 23:47.14 | KrAmMeR | im on 3 |
| 23:47.17 | KrAmMeR | 3.x |
| 23:47.36 | aseigo | yeah, it's in the config dialo gthere... "show only windows on the current dekstop" or something like that |
| 23:47.56 | KrAmMeR | ok, yeah i had it with another distro i was on |
| 23:48.00 | KrAmMeR | but i cant find the option |
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| 23:48.38 | aseigo | as for having windows follow, right click on the title bar and select "to desktop -> all desktops" |
| 23:48.51 | dwinslow | in KDE 3 you right click on the panel, choose configure, go to the task bar section, and untick 'Show windows from all desktops' |
| 23:50.04 | KrAmMeR | yeah...its not there |
| 23:51.30 | dwinslow | KrAmMeR: it's the very first thing in that dialog here; i guess maybe your distro has patched it away |
| 23:51.51 | aseigo | if so, that distro should be taken out and shot |
| 23:52.02 | KrAmMeR | i have "sort alphabetically by application name" first |
| 23:53.04 | dwinslow | aseigo++ |
| 23:54.31 | KrAmMeR | aseigo: cool got that option working, for all workspaces |
| 23:54.39 | KrAmMeR | although it was still a little different in my distro |
| 23:54.41 | KrAmMeR | weird.. |
| 23:55.11 | KrAmMeR | compiz might have something to do with that though...in the title bars |
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| 23:55.31 | dwinslow | if you're using compiz the window menus will be different |
| 23:56.01 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: ah, yeah, compiz provides it's own menus |
| 23:56.12 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: ah, that would also explain the "only this desktop" missing too |
| 23:56.27 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: compiz doesn't have the idea of desktops, just "workspaces" which work somewhat differently |
| 23:56.49 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: i don't think the taskbar was fixed to work with that particular braindamage until very recently |
| 23:57.04 | KrAmMeR | yeah when i start compiz it puts like 16 desktops in my taskbar lol, then i have to change it to 4 everytime my system reboots |
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| 23:57.11 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: essentially compiz says "there's just one desktop", and when we have just one dekstop we don't show multi-desktop features in the gui |
| 23:57.36 | aseigo | KrAmMeR: recently we've put code into the libs to make workspaces appear more like desktops to applications.. |
| 23:57.44 | aseigo | workspaces are still a bad idea, but.. well, whatever. |
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| 23:58.11 | KrAmMeR | ok, in 4 you mean? |
| 23:58.25 | aseigo | seli might have backported it to 3.5.9 as well.. i can't remember |
| 23:59.03 | KrAmMeR | k |
