00:04.35 | nick125 | Hrm...I wonder if I should be concerned that the battery level monitor in KDE4 has been remaining at 92% for the last 30 minutes.. |
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00:11.05 | luislo | Hi all. I think someone said a little while ago that was using kubuntu, but then changed to mandriva... RU there ? |
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00:11.53 | mathlol | You know what your problem is? |
00:12.06 | deitarion | Is it possible to load a KDE 4 sound theme in KDE 3 without having to manually set every sound? I'm rather fond of the new default. |
00:12.15 | mathlol | Ya'll a bunch of filthy motherfuckas |
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00:12.33 | nick125 | mathlol: k, we don't care. |
00:12.47 | mathlol | That's from a movie. |
00:13.02 | mathlol | As is this |
00:13.23 | pinotree | What. The. Fsck. |
00:13.34 | nick125 | ookay. Someone forgot to take their meds today. Anyways, where were we? |
00:13.35 | pinotree | deitarion: nope |
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00:13.55 | deitarion | pinotree: Ugh. One more thing to add to my "after exams" TODO list. |
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00:14.06 | pinotree | deitarion: hold on |
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00:15.30 | Japsu | hold on; plot(sin(linspace(0,2*pi))); plot(cos(linspace(0,2*pi))) |
00:15.36 | Japsu | .. |
00:15.38 | Japsu | sleepy time |
00:16.27 | Japsu | :< |
00:16.33 | pinotree | ... gently ;) |
00:16.40 | Japsu | :| |
00:17.07 | Japsu | which leads me to wonder, what's the state of koctave |
00:18.09 | pinotree | deitarion: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82139 |
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00:22.04 | icesword | hi,everyone |
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00:22.16 | icesword | can kde install mac4lin |
00:22.34 | icesword | qwedsa, can kde install mac4lin |
00:23.05 | pinotree | icesword: what is your distribution? |
00:23.12 | icesword | kubuntu |
00:23.29 | pinotree | then please ask in #kubuntu - kde does not package software |
00:23.56 | icesword | :( |
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00:58.07 | abcdef | can we change border width of kde theme? |
00:58.25 | abcdef | border width of buttons and such |
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01:17.49 | abcdef | no people talking |
01:18.02 | abcdef | my last question, how do i make my own kde widget styles |
01:18.03 | abcdef | lol |
01:18.06 | abcdef | anyone knows? |
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01:18.53 | grundleborg | abcdef: you might find more help with that in #kde-devel |
01:19.08 | tremby | i'm looking for a way to focus a particular window from the commandline |
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01:21.49 | abcdef | that helps, thanks tremby |
01:22.15 | tremby | bizarre. i'm glad though. |
01:22.51 | elfo | hello everybody |
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01:35.34 | nick125 | Any ideas on why the battery monitor in KDE4 doesn't seem to update? |
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02:26.04 | moo_cow | are there packages for the latest kde4 for kubuntu or do i have to compile it from source? |
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02:30.27 | didkoddd | glopaci |
02:30.28 | didkoddd | shte vi eba |
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02:47.29 | sparr_ | "the kde mediamanager is not running" <-- how do i start it? |
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02:50.29 | moo_cow | i was messing with some of the settings and i messed up the widgets in kde 4. i didnt know what i was doing. how can i reset the widgets back to default? |
02:51.17 | dwinslow | moo_cow: i believe a "find .kde4 -name 'plasmarc' -delete" should do it |
02:51.19 | nevyn | moo_cow: rm -rf ~/.kde4 |
02:51.32 | nevyn | dwinslow: that's better than mine |
02:51.34 | dwinslow | well, that and a "kquitapp plasma; plasma& " |
02:52.31 | dwinslow | oh wait plasmarc doesn't specify the widgets |
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03:03.33 | nick125 | nevyn: I believe that rm'ing ~/.kde4 is undesirable... |
03:03.52 | nick125 | Least that's what the topic says :p |
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03:07.52 | gneek | um...how can I set d3lphin as my default file manager? |
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03:08.16 | dwinslow | gneek: you just need to set it as the default application for opening inode/directory |
03:08.38 | dwinslow | it's the same as setting any other file association (KDE Control Center->KDE Components->File Associations) |
03:09.38 | gneek | Thanks a bunch |
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03:21.02 | nick125 | Hrm...I noticed that KMix 4.0.1 doesn't have any shortcuts for volume up/volume down. Any ideas on how to get my volume keys working in KDE4? |
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03:28.13 | holycow | hey guys |
03:28.27 | holycow | i'm in the panel dialog in kcontrol and i can't seem to add a new panel |
03:28.31 | holycow | how is that done again? |
03:29.00 | dwinslow | holycow: i don't think it's done through kcontrol; you should just be able to right-click on an existing panel and choose "add new panel" |
03:30.12 | holycow | aha! |
03:30.13 | holycow | danke! |
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03:31.26 | nick125 | ooh, I found it. System Settings -> Keyboard -> Keyboard Shortcuts...it has a thing for kmix. |
03:31.37 | nick125 | (just in case anyone else with KDE4 wants volume shortcuts) |
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03:41.50 | Murdock76 | Good evening. |
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03:42.28 | zakm_ | how do i set KDE to lock pc after 10min of inactivity? (KDE 3.5.8) |
03:42.37 | zakm_ | so ill have to enter password ? |
03:42.54 | nick125 | zakm_: Look under screensaver settings (I'm not sure where it is in KDE 3) |
03:43.06 | Murdock76 | does anybody know why kolf might freeze in ununtu gutsy 7.10? |
03:43.11 | Murdock76 | ubuntu |
03:43.20 | zakm_ | thanks nick125 |
03:44.29 | Murdock76 | it worked for me last night, but tonight decided to have an attitude with me. |
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04:12.13 | Bert_ | hi?. |
04:12.36 | dwinslow | hi Bert_ |
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04:12.47 | Bert_ | woot! what exactly is this? |
04:13.15 | dwinslow | i think you'll need to be more specific |
04:13.24 | dwinslow | are you asking what this IRC channel is for? |
04:13.31 | Bert_ | yeah |
04:13.43 | dwinslow | help for KDE users |
04:13.47 | Bert_ | ahh |
04:14.01 | Bert_ | how do i know if im using KDE or Gnome? |
04:14.28 | dwinslow | well, Gnome's logo is a foot |
04:14.37 | dwinslow | KDE's is a gear with a K |
04:14.44 | dwinslow | do you see either of those? |
04:14.51 | Bert_ | where do i look? |
04:15.05 | Bert_ | cause im on Fedora Core 8 and all i see is a F in the top right corner :p |
04:15.23 | dwinslow | oh, Fedora replaces the Gnome logo with a fedora one |
04:15.28 | dwinslow | at least by default |
04:15.52 | dwinslow | the default desktop in Fedora is Gnome though so that's probably what you're running |
04:16.03 | Bert_ | so whats better KDE or Gnome (upfalls and downfalls) |
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04:17.28 | dwinslow | the gist of it is: KDE is more configurable, Gnome is simpler to use |
04:17.36 | Bert_ | ooh! |
04:17.52 | Bert_ | can i still use Compiz in KDE? |
04:17.55 | dwinslow | </vast-over-generalization> |
04:17.59 | dwinslow | yes |
04:18.25 | dwinslow | the new release of KDE includes 3D effects in the default window manager as well |
04:18.34 | Bert_ | so how do i change between? |
04:18.37 | dwinslow | (will be included in F9 when that comes out) |
04:19.01 | dwinslow | you want to install KDE, then log out and choose KDE from the sessions menu before logging back in |
04:19.21 | Bert_ | like log off my account? |
04:19.30 | dwinslow | (in fedora, you can just check the box for KDE in the add/remove programs tool) |
04:19.34 | dwinslow | yes |
04:20.17 | Bert_ | well i cant access the Add remove programs cause im doing an update but thanks |
04:21.39 | Bert_ | whats the difference between normal compiz and compiz-fusion? |
04:21.45 | Bert_ | are they made by the same ppl? |
04:22.37 | dwinslow | there was a fork of compiz called beryl that focused more on neat effects (while compiz was working on bugs/stability) |
04:22.50 | dwinslow | compiz-fusion is the re-merging of the two |
04:23.03 | Bert_ | ooh. how do i know if its installed? |
04:23.30 | dwinslow | open a shell and type "rpm -q compiz compiz-fusion" |
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04:23.57 | Bert_ | as in shell do you meen the terminal? |
04:24.15 | dwinslow | yes i do |
04:25.00 | Bert_ | i got this: compiz-0.6.2-3.fc8 and compiz-fusion-0.6.0-12.fc8 |
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04:25.15 | dwinslow | so you have both installed |
04:25.56 | Bert_ | ok so how do i use all the neat stuff with compiz-fusion, ive seen people change the tops and bottoms of there cubes to clear, can you show me that? |
04:26.25 | dwinslow | this is really getting beyond the scope of #kde :) |
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04:26.46 | dwinslow | type /join #compiz for help with it |
04:26.57 | Bert_ | in this box im typing in? |
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04:27.15 | dwinslow | Bert_: yes, /join is an IRC command to enter a new channel |
04:27.26 | Bert_ | ok. Thanks allot |
04:27.50 | dwinslow | no problem |
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04:37.06 | ZeroBeholder | I <3 MGET * |
04:37.48 | ZeroBeholder | Now that I have all these tar files in my home directory what do I do? |
04:38.11 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: a bit more context please? |
04:38.41 | linoob | using konq, i cant access smb://mshome/ (says time out on server mshome) help |
04:39.19 | ZeroBeholder | I am a cumulative five days using OpenBSD, I just figured out how to ftp from the command line. |
04:39.23 | dwinslow | linoob: can you connect using other tools/computers? |
04:39.46 | ZeroBeholder | Very excited. I am driving my girlfriend to new levels of apathy-- |
04:39.52 | linoob | dwinslow: come again? |
04:39.54 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: I meant, what are you trying to accomplish? what tar files do you have? |
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04:40.18 | ZeroBeholder | I think everything from ./stable/src |
04:40.19 | dwinslow | linoob: have you tried using a different program to connect to the samba share? |
04:40.38 | linoob | dwinslow: i dont think i have other programs/tools, gimme some suggestions? |
04:41.10 | ZeroBeholder | since I started downloading when I was in the /home directory as the root user, I hope that is where they are landing on my machine. |
04:41.12 | dwinslow | hm, there's the commandline smbclient, or Gnome's samba support |
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04:41.51 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: okay, it sounds like your question is squarely in the realm of openBSD, please ask in their channel |
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04:42.28 | billytwowilly | when is 4.1 supposed to be out? Not being able to change desktop settings is kinda lame;) |
04:42.39 | ZeroBeholder | so configuring KDE in OpenBSD should be asked there? |
04:43.16 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: it sounds to me like you are installing openBSD packages, you haven't gotten to anything KDE-specific yet |
04:43.35 | dwinslow | billytwowilly: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules |
04:43.38 | ZeroBeholder | They are all from ftp.kde.org |
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04:43.51 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: ah, i see, sorry |
04:43.58 | linoob | dwinslow: can i use cli to access samba networks? |
04:43.59 | ZeroBeholder | OpenBSD and X-Server are already running |
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04:44.49 | dwinslow | linoob: I believe so, but i have never done so |
04:44.49 | ZeroBeholder | It's been a month of real days, but I only made progress on four... |
04:45.06 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: openBSD doesn't package KDE? |
04:45.23 | ZeroBeholder | Maybe, I'm not sure where it would be though |
04:45.45 | linoob | dwinslow: k, getting smb4k to try |
04:45.50 | billytwowilly | hehehe. end of july for configuration? Seems like kde 4 should almost have been left on the drawing board for another month or two.. |
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04:46.58 | dwinslow | ZeroBeholder: i would recommend learning to search the package repository before compiling KDE yourself |
04:47.43 | ZeroBeholder | I'll ask in #BSD channel. After three days of reading, I'm going to feel like a very accomplished retard if I'm downloading something I already have. |
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04:50.09 | linoob | dwinslow: well, smb4k works, so problem in konq? |
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04:50.15 | Bert_ | Whats a SELinux AVC Denial? |
04:50.21 | dwinslow | linoob: sounds like it |
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04:50.38 | dwinslow | linoob: you should probably report the bug with your distribution |
04:50.49 | linoob | dwinslow: care to brainstorm some solution? it worked before, some sys upgrade must have borked it |
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04:51.14 | dwinslow | you could downgrade to the working version |
04:51.17 | dsnyders | Hi all! My k3b stopped working, and I'm getting a DCOP aborting message when I run from a terminal. Anybody else having this problem? |
04:51.25 | dwinslow | do you have a log of what upgrades were made? |
04:51.40 | linoob | what does this means? chmod +s $(which mount.cifs) $(which umount.cifs) |
04:51.49 | eltinono | billytwowilly: people who care about a fully functional desktop read the release notes, and are therefore still using 3.5.x :p |
04:53.09 | Bert_ | Whats a SELinux AVC Denial? |
04:53.15 | billytwowilly | yah.. It's just frustrating.. why release a 4.0 without something as basic as configuration... |
04:53.18 | dwinslow | linoob: chmod +s makes it so that when you run a program, it is run as the user that owns the file rather than the user that is running it |
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04:53.45 | eltinono | Bert_: it means selinux denied some process to do something, as instructed by the currently running selinux policy. |
04:53.49 | dwinslow | billytwowilly: what's in a number anyway? :) |
04:54.09 | Bert_ | eltinono: how do i get it to go away? |
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04:54.25 | linoob | dwinslow: yeah, its the $(which mount.cifs) that puzzles me, do i replace it with my own variable? or just copy paste? |
04:54.28 | billytwowilly | dwinslow: It's the lack of alpha after the number that I'm griping about;) |
04:54.47 | eltinono | Bert_: this is no selinux channel. get support from your distribution, or stop using selinux. |
04:55.03 | dwinslow | linoob: oh, that gets replaced with the result of that command |
04:55.22 | dwinslow | so use it verbatim |
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04:59.08 | linoob | dwinslow: k thanks |
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05:23.02 | ZeroB-Reading | dwinslow, you rock. Not that the unmerciful djs couldn't be helpful. Just the same, thank you. |
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05:48.47 | billytwowilly | hey, how do I restart plasma? |
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05:57.57 | stdin | billybobobo: probably like "qdbus org.kde.plasma /MainApplication quit;kdeinit4_wrapper plasma" |
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06:27.10 | Ahroun | Would this be the correct channel for questions regarding ktorrent or would that better be addressed in another channel? |
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06:30.29 | jervine | you can ask here, Ahroun. good as place as any |
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06:36.14 | Ahroun | In KTorrent, is there any ability to tether upload rate to download rate on a per-peer basis? That is, if a peer is giving me Xdown bandwidth, set it up so they only get Xup bandwith? |
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06:43.00 | holycow | how is resoultion changes on kde3.5? |
06:43.08 | holycow | i don't see anything in kcontrol that does this? |
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06:46.40 | goofeedude | holycow: try 'krandrtray' |
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06:57.03 | ZeroB-Reading | Well, KDE is not included in the OpenBSD distribution. It however is in the ftp.openbsd.org ports area. My loose understanding of the subject gives you the best context of the material I can manage. |
06:57.34 | ZeroB-Reading | I just started KDE... Very excite, high five. |
06:58.07 | goofeedude | ZeroB-Reading: high five. |
06:59.12 | ZeroB-Reading | i used add_pkg ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/all-kinds-of-directories/packages/i386/anything-that-had-kde-in-it |
06:59.25 | ZeroB-Reading | .tgz |
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07:16.45 | marcham89 | Hey I keep getting an error with something called "nspluginviewer". It just stops responding for some reason. |
07:17.06 | thiago_home | nspluginviewer is the application responsible for loading Netscape plugins |
07:17.23 | marcham89 | How can I fix this error |
07:17.28 | marcham89 | It seems to effect flash |
07:17.38 | thiago_home | Flash is a Netscape plugin |
07:17.44 | thiago_home | what's the exact error message? |
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07:19.06 | jervine | just uninstall the nspluginviewer RPM, marcham89 |
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07:19.59 | marcham89 | Thats all jervine? |
07:20.15 | jervine | that's my suggestion, yes |
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07:20.20 | marcham89 | ok thanks. And sorry for before bad moment.. :-) |
07:20.29 | thiago_home | that will make Flash stop working in Konqueror |
07:20.44 | marcham89 | than actually never mind |
07:20.54 | marcham89 | How can I fix it and keep flash |
07:21.01 | marcham89 | It says error x11 or something |
07:21.14 | thiago_home | you haven't told us what the exact error is |
07:21.38 | marcham89 | I mean It says it generated signal 11 |
07:21.48 | thiago_home | ok, that means it crashed |
07:21.58 | thiago_home | upgrade or downgrade your KDE installation |
07:22.14 | thiago_home | if that doesn't work, upgrade or downgrade your Flash plugin |
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07:22.28 | marcham89 | I dont use KDE actually just konqueror |
07:22.33 | thiago_home | are you on 32- or 64-bit? |
07:22.47 | marcham89 | 64 |
07:23.00 | thiago_home | that's probably why |
07:23.05 | thiago_home | use 32-bit if you want to use Flash |
07:23.37 | marcham89 | ok I see |
07:23.43 | marcham89 | ty |
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07:46.02 | appelza | Hi, whats a good calender application for KDE |
07:46.52 | rrbiz | kontact |
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07:48.02 | Kaboohoo | does anyone know the command to switch from gnome to kde in fedora? |
07:48.10 | appelza | Anything more light weight? I already have Kmail installed, dont' want the full blown suite |
07:49.14 | rrbiz | thunderbird, but it's GTK |
07:49.46 | goofeedude | appelza: I'm using 'korganizer' I dunno if that may help :-) |
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07:51.23 | goofeedude | appelza: Actually, it appears that korganizer is the calender portion of kontact |
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07:51.34 | thiago_home | it is |
07:51.39 | rrbiz | korganizer or kontact suite ain't so big tho |
07:52.10 | goofeedude | Yeah, I'm lovin' it. It's quite well done ( I think, it's the first calender app I've used, and very intuitive.) |
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07:52.17 | thiago_home | if you have kmail and korganizer running, starting kontact will have a neglible impact |
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07:53.18 | goofeedude | Actually, in a related subject, where is the "default" calender stored on disk? I'll be upgrading the OS (thus KDE versions) soon, and I'd love to keep my calender as it stands. |
07:53.29 | rrbiz | yeah i was able to import most my outlook data into kontact |
07:53.36 | thiago_home | in ~/.kde/share/apps somewhere |
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07:54.02 | jbrefort | I have a major issue with kde: it fails to start on my machine at work, seems related to dcop server |
07:54.05 | rrbiz | or export by categories and create files, haven't tried it tho |
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07:54.27 | goofeedude | thiago_home: is keeping my ~/.kde/ completely intact between versions (3.5.x) a good idea? |
07:54.55 | thiago_home | yes |
07:55.38 | goofeedude | thiago_home: Thanks :-) |
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07:55.57 | appelza | thanks goofeedude |
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07:56.32 | jbrefort | anybody knows if kde attempts to create sym links in the user's directory on start up? |
07:56.39 | goofeedude | appelza: No problema :-D |
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07:58.19 | thiago_home | jbrefort: yes, it does |
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08:01.31 | KaV | anyone can tell me if there is any way to use 1 keyboard key (raise volume eg) to 2 global shortkeys from kmix ?? without using modifier ?? |
08:02.17 | jbrefort | thiago_home: is there a way to configure it so that it does not or create them elsewhere (/tmp or so)? |
08:03.13 | jbrefort | the issue is that the users directory are located on an active directory server |
08:04.14 | thiago_home | jbrefort: nope, no way |
08:04.27 | thiago_home | KDE requires a Unix filesystem for the user home |
08:04.34 | jbrefort | so we need to use gnome... |
08:04.40 | thiago_home | or use a Unix filesystem |
08:05.04 | thiago_home | search the internet for Samba-mounted homes, though. I remember there being threads and fixes about that. |
08:05.06 | jbrefort | I have not the decision, unfortunately |
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08:05.23 | thiago_home | Ugly fixes, though. The filesystem on Microsoft OS's is stupid and broken. |
08:05.25 | jbrefort | ok, thanks |
08:05.33 | jbrefort | yes |
08:05.52 | thiago_home | like not being able to remove a file that is open |
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08:15.33 | Rasi | so.. if i follow the HOW-TO to build kde4, is qt4.4 included then? |
08:16.26 | Rasi | if not.. is there also explained how to do that? |
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08:31.05 | XenTix | morning |
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08:32.02 | XenTix | hello. i was using KDE and i got a strange error that i've never seen before. can someone help me? i pasted the dmesg here: http://refpaste.notlong.com |
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08:32.49 | js0n | What's the error |
08:32.56 | troy | XenTix: you are either a spammer, or you have a bad link |
08:33.38 | XenTix | i'm just a spammer trying to get some clicks |
08:33.40 | XenTix | just bored... |
08:33.45 | js0n | har har |
08:34.18 | troy | XenTix: the freenode server is not a good place to be a spammer - you ought to find a different means |
08:34.39 | XenTix | i know. but this is the server with most clients connected. |
08:34.53 | troy | XenTix: plus, if you are spamming in english, at least have an english site that it links to :P |
08:35.01 | XenTix | lol |
08:35.12 | XenTix | but i play on a portuguese server and i win points in the game for clicks |
08:36.15 | js0n | how about you turn those points into usd or some other legal currency and make a nice contribution to kde |
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08:36.28 | XenTix | i'd like to... but they're not to be exchanged to money |
08:36.38 | XenTix | i mean, it's impossible |
08:36.40 | js0n | <XenTix> yeah great idea js0n. im gonna do that or just stop spamming |
08:37.00 | XenTix | i just stopped.... |
08:37.04 | XenTix | i don't need it anymore |
08:37.09 | XenTix | i just lost my first fight :x |
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08:37.44 | XenTix | i need to make more points to be better than my girlfriend |
08:37.49 | XenTix | she's winning me :| |
08:38.19 | js0n | youre gonna lose more than that if you send another one of those links maybe some incisors |
08:38.34 | troy | XenTix: anyway, I'm going to have to boot you from the channel for spamming, even though you are the most polite spammer I've seen on freenode yet :) |
08:38.44 | XenTix | thanks troy |
08:38.46 | XenTix | :D |
08:38.47 | js0n | troy: yeah really |
08:38.51 | XenTix | i got a medal for spamming |
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08:39.04 | XenTix | i'm gonna go back to sleep |
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08:39.07 | js0n | good idea |
08:39.09 | XenTix | tty later guys :) |
08:39.18 | XenTix | oh, i'll just part |
08:39.19 | js0n | hahah get him before he goes |
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08:39.48 | welp | hrm, how can i tell kmail to not check a particular folder? (using IMAP4) |
08:40.11 | welp | (oh, and kmail-1.9.7) |
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08:41.38 | troy | js0n: at least he wasn't election campaigning - that irks me :) |
08:42.37 | js0n | yeah - god forbid he supported hillary ;) |
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08:43.39 | Apocalypse_dn | Hello! |
08:44.41 | troy | I'm going to sleep now folks :) I've been playing konquest for hours now, and it's bad for me :) |
08:47.28 | Apocalypse_dn | how can i run systemsettings from root? |
08:50.51 | Apocalypse_dn | No one knows? |
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08:52.22 | Apocalypse_dn | kdesu |
08:52.25 | Apocalypse_dn | owh |
08:53.28 | js0n | so does anyone have qt4 running on a little embedded device? |
08:53.59 | js0n | im looking to purchase a prototype board or something to fool around on |
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08:56.15 | rohanpm | js0n: it works on gumstix |
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08:56.22 | rohanpm | js0n: #qt might be a better place to ask that |
08:56.45 | js0n | yeah i know - |
08:57.18 | Apocalypse_dn | how can i run systemsettings with root privelegies? |
08:57.29 | skyll | sudo |
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08:58.31 | Apocalypse_dn | skyll, but it locks QMutex( |
08:58.57 | skyll | run mac os x |
08:59.14 | Apocalypse_dn | i need to change my locale |
08:59.27 | Apocalypse_dn | how can i do it without system settings? |
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09:00.02 | skyll | edward scissorhands |
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09:04.03 | thiago | js0n: get a gumstix |
09:04.14 | pocketsnooker | bad breath |
09:04.14 | js0n | too pricey |
09:04.15 | pocketsnooker | ? |
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09:04.23 | P4R4D0X | meep? |
09:04.28 | thiago | http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/02/05/open-source-embedded-development-my-gumstix-story/ |
09:04.48 | js0n | yup - look at the cost of the kit |
09:04.49 | pocketsnooker | meep from governmentsecurity? |
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09:05.46 | pocketsnooker | awww fawking expensive. |
09:07.29 | niklauz | hi, i'm wondering is it possible to intergrate the k-menu button into the menubar? |
09:08.29 | niklauz | i enabled the 'mac-os style' menu bar, but would like to add the kicker and systray to the same bar if possible |
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09:08.54 | thiago | no, I don't think so |
09:09.03 | pocketsnooker | niklauz you did that when you came out of the closet? |
09:09.19 | pocketsnooker | thiago és meio gay? |
09:10.13 | niklauz | pocketsnooker: annoy-o-tron? |
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09:10.23 | thiago | pocketsnooker: if you don't have nothing of use to speak, don't waste the opportunity to be quiet. |
09:10.50 | ILFAT | hello!!! |
09:11.32 | pocketsnooker | :o |
09:11.40 | pocketsnooker | just trying to hang out with you |
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09:11.57 | thiago | pocketsnooker: you can start by not being aggressive and annoying to others. |
09:12.27 | pocketsnooker | hey, i'm not beeing aggressive, you prejudicious stuptard |
09:12.40 | thiago | another example of you being aggressive. |
09:12.59 | pocketsnooker | that was me beeing paradoxial |
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09:13.43 | PhilRod | P4R4D0X: get out |
09:13.59 | P4R4D0X | ok |
09:14.03 | P4R4D0X | :) |
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09:14.12 | PhilRod | idiots |
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09:37.43 | plovs | i can't build qt-copy anymore using kdesvn-build-1.5? help? |
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09:43.20 | thiago | plovs: #kde-devel please. I'll help you there. |
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09:54.24 | niklauz | whats the hotkey for katapult? |
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09:56.01 | twosouls82 | niklauz: I never use it.. but if I am right it was/is "ctrl+space" |
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09:56.31 | niklauz | i think yr right, maybe my compiz broke it... hmmm |
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10:03.42 | twosouls82 | niklauz: "kwin --replace" will give you kwin back, now you can check if it was caused by compiz |
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10:06.11 | jpatrick | thiago: ping |
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10:11.16 | jpatrick | pocketsnooker is now known as WhitePower |
10:11.16 | jpatrick | danimo: ... |
10:11.16 | danimo | on it |
10:11.17 | WhitePower_ | i love cocaine |
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10:11.17 | WhitePower_ | oh |
10:11.21 | WhitePower_ | it was supposed to be WhitePowder |
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10:13.04 | jpatrick | danimo: thanks |
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10:13.31 | danimo | jpatrick: if you ask annma, she can get you op rights on this channel |
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10:13.52 | jpatrick | Gary: he's gone now, cheers, sorry for the paste |
10:13.55 | niklauz | anyone know how to skip ahead on a wallpaper slideshow? |
10:14.14 | jpatrick | danimo: ok, will do |
10:14.15 | danimo | jpatrick: njaard and her own the channel |
10:14.19 | danimo | so ask either |
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10:16.45 | Rasi | thiago: the hotkey is alt+space |
10:16.47 | Rasi | not ctrl |
10:19.24 | niklauz | yup, thiago's suggest was enough for me to figure it out, compiz wasn't blocking it I'd just forgotten |
10:19.58 | niklauz | Rasi: do you happen to know if there is a way to skip forward in the 'slideshow' settings of the kde desktop wallpaper? |
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10:20.49 | Rasi | sorry no.. didnt even know this thing exists :P |
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10:21.43 | niklauz | Rasi: it's great, it even fetches new desktop images from kde-look within the selection dialog |
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10:36.27 | RichiH | i upgraded my debian and lost all my window decorations. moving windows via alt-click is impossible, as well |
10:36.34 | RichiH | any idea where i could look? |
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10:40.37 | twosouls82 | RichiH: right click window title, choose "Configure Window Behavior...", choose "Actions" on the left of the opened window, and select the "Window Actions" tab... here you can select the alt + left click behavior |
10:40.53 | twosouls82 | the rest of the options are in this dialog as well |
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10:45.59 | RichiH | twosouls82: without window decoration, that is kinda hard to do |
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10:46.40 | twosouls82 | RichiH: select the window and try Alt+F3 to get the window menu |
10:47.39 | cb400f | RichiH: were you using kwin at all.. or some other window manager? |
10:48.07 | cb400f | try 'kwin --replace' |
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10:49.28 | Rasi | i am so looking forward if kde4 trunk really gives that speed-up |
10:49.47 | Rasi | as seen here: http://blog.chatonka.com/?p=26 |
10:51.26 | cb400f | I seemed to notice some extra smoothness in how things run (using some apps from trunk in kde3).. I assumed it was down to Qt4.4 improvements |
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10:53.34 | Rasi | lets see i am really looking forward.. kde4 was a bit slow for me sadly |
10:53.57 | Rasi | which it shouldnt.. cause others with lower specs run it smoothly |
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10:56.44 | thiago | jpatrick: pong |
10:56.59 | thiago | Rasi: hot key for what? |
10:57.18 | jpatrick | thiago: too late, danim0 kicked the troll |
10:57.26 | Rasi | thiago: katapult |
10:57.29 | thiago | jpatrick: I couldn't have done anything about it. |
10:57.33 | thiago | Rasi: never used it. |
10:57.44 | jpatrick | ah, ok (thought you were op) |
10:57.54 | jpatrick | from #k-devel stuff :) |
10:57.57 | Rasi | ah.... i mistyped |
10:58.01 | Rasi | i meant twosouls82 |
10:58.10 | Rasi | at least the 1st letter is right :) |
11:03.18 | twosouls82 | Rasi? |
11:03.52 | Rasi | :) |
11:03.59 | Rasi | [10:56] twosouls8| niklauz: I never use it.. but if I am right it was/is "ctrl+space" |
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11:04.09 | Rasi | i just corrected it |
11:04.18 | twosouls82 | it was Alt+space? |
11:04.34 | Rasi | nod |
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11:09.51 | niklauz | kde is soo flippin' sweet |
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11:10.05 | thiago | jpatrick: I am op in #kde-devel, but not here. |
11:10.08 | jadrian | is kde 3.5.9 going to be released tomorrow? |
11:10.20 | jadrian | as scheduled |
11:10.36 | niklauz | my laptop is purr, but i adapted to it and all i had to do was adjust a few options and it's fresh purr all over again!! |
11:10.43 | thiago | jadrian: you'll find out tomorrow. |
11:11.12 | jadrian | thiago: oh well... :) |
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11:16.34 | RichiH | twosouls82: didn't work, either. but it's solved, now |
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11:16.55 | RichiH | cb400f: it turns out an age-old test installation of compiz 'repaired' itself |
11:17.01 | RichiH | it's removed & everything works |
11:17.08 | RichiH | thanks you all :) |
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11:48.50 | maki_d | why there isn't a comit-digest for this week ? |
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11:56.37 | maki_d | :( and the channel is silent |
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12:07.51 | pinotree | maki_d: everyone's eating :D |
12:08.03 | maki_d | :) |
12:08.19 | maki_d | everyone isn't in the same timezone |
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12:17.02 | maki_ | anyone knows will the konqueror merged stop/reload button patch will be in kde4 by default |
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12:25.11 | vlt | Hello. When a user logs in via XDMCP his locale is set to POSIX. Does anyone know where to tell kdm to set it to de_DE.UTF-8? |
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12:50.46 | cuci | I just updated to qt-4.4 and I want to update the kde also but it wants qt compiled with accesabillity, but there is no such flag in qt 4.4 |
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12:51.46 | cuci | it was on 4.3 but the trunk kde now requires 4.4 witch has no accesibility |
12:51.54 | cuci | any ideas on that? |
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12:55.40 | pinotree | cuci: #qt |
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12:58.41 | vlt | Hello. When a user logs in via XDMCP his locale is set to POSIX. Does anyone know where to tell kdm to set it to de_DE.UTF-8? |
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13:03.19 | ki|A-F-MOTHERFUC | So let's get a party going (let's get a party going) |
13:03.19 | ki|A-F-MOTHERFUC | Now it's time to party and we'll party hard (party hard) |
13:04.07 | Sput | is it September again? |
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13:04.47 | pinotree | hmpfff |
13:06.25 | kniolet | yeah i wonder what that was about |
13:06.43 | pinotree | he forgot his daily mental pills, that's all |
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13:09.55 | GNU\colo | is there any way to use kmenu's logout->shutdown capabilities from the CLI? |
13:10.20 | mxttie|work | GNU\colo: i guess through some dcop interface? |
13:10.37 | mxttie|work | try kicker |
13:10.46 | GNU\colo | mxttie|work: I've been poking around already, however, did not yield anything that makes sense (tried kded and kicker already) |
13:10.49 | Sho_ | GNU\colo: ksmserver's DCOP interface |
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13:10.58 | GNU\colo | Sho_: thanks, will have a look |
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13:11.33 | Sho_ | GNU\colo: The "logout" method; for the values see the three Shutdown* enums in http://api.kde.org/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html |
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13:12.49 | orogor_ | hi here |
13:13.00 | orogor_ | i dont have thumbs craete in konqueror |
13:13.03 | orogor_ | antone has an idea ? |
13:13.26 | orogor_ | ... when i hover over a pic i have the thumb |
13:14.08 | faemir | orogor_, |
13:14.11 | mxttie|work | orogor_: try switching to thumbview mode? :) |
13:14.14 | faemir | view > view mode > icon view |
13:14.38 | orogor_ | noe |
13:14.41 | Rasi | i have thumbs.. but always around 30% of the pictures are not previewed |
13:14.46 | orogor_ | i am already in icon view |
13:14.51 | GNU\colo | Sho_: could you please enlighten me what positional paremeter of logout corresponds to what enum? :) |
13:15.45 | GNU\colo | ah i think i got it |
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13:17.38 | Rasi | woa building qtcopy takes ages... |
13:17.46 | Rasi | 3 hours now |
13:18.11 | mxttie|work | true :) |
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13:23.21 | orogor_ | mxttie|work, faemir any other idea ? |
13:24.24 | mxttie|work | orogor_: what type is the image format? are they all the same? |
13:24.31 | orogor_ | jpeg |
13:25.05 | mxttie|work | so, for some you both get image in thumb view and in tooltip, and for others only in tooltip? |
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13:26.20 | orogor_ | i never get thumbs |
13:26.45 | mxttie|work | then you are not in thumb mode? |
13:26.55 | mxttie|work | try switching |
13:26.59 | Stinger_ | I managed to delete my application launcher from my panel, can't seem to get it back, kde 4.0.1 |
13:27.13 | Stinger_ | well, I can get it on the desktop, but thats less than ideal |
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13:27.30 | pinotree | drag from the add applet dialog directly to the panel |
13:27.31 | orogor_ | mxttie|work, already treid |
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13:28.34 | Stinger_ | hmm I dragged it to the same place I did before and it worked this time, mebbe cause I had less applets open |
13:29.00 | Stinger_ | er less windows rather |
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13:45.56 | Rasi | Overall time for qt-copy was 3 hours, 34 minutes, and 9 seconds. |
13:46.02 | Rasi | hooray... lets get on with kdesupport |
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13:49.11 | g2g591 | Rasi: Trunk > 4.0.x , it seems from my experiance |
13:49.25 | Rasi | thats why i want it |
13:49.27 | Rasi | :P |
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13:51.00 | vlt | Hello. When a user logs in via XDMCP his locale is set to POSIX. Does anyone know where to tell kdm to set it to de_DE.UTF-8? I tried to set "Language=de_DE.UTF-8" in the [Desktop] section of ~/.dmrc which didn't help. |
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13:51.21 | quique | When I press the «Switch User» menu entry, instead of starting a parallel session I just get a KLauncher window. |
13:51.27 | quique | Is that a known bug? |
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13:53.56 | quique | oh yeah, I found it: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152805 |
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14:01.05 | g2g591 | vit: locale is at a "lower" level than kde, or kdm, i personally have an entry in /etc/env.d/02locale , but it varies on distro |
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14:02.03 | mklebel | I installed, Kima, but the option to monitor CPU usage isnt in the settings??? |
14:02.08 | mklebel | what module do I have to load? |
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14:10.54 | twosouls82 | mklebel: look at this page http://kima.sourceforge.net/; section "features", feature "supported frequency sources" |
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14:11.13 | twosouls82 | mklebel: you can use http://ubuntuguide.org/index.php?title=Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_enable_your_CPU.27s_Power_Saving.2FFrequency_Scaling_features for details on how to get cpufreq working |
14:11.22 | twosouls82 | works for Gutsy too |
14:12.17 | twosouls82 | that's if you use Kubuntu at all -thought this was another tab- |
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14:15.23 | Japsu | aaaaaa |
14:15.30 | Japsu | -aaaaaa |
14:15.51 | mklebel | twosoul82: cpufreq subsystems are loaded |
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14:18.38 | twosouls82 | mklebel: so "lsmod | grep -i cpufreq" lists modules being loaded? if so, I guess it should work |
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14:20.06 | kubitz | Hello there I'm having an odd problem with kgpg on Debian Etch anyone know what stops kgpg being able to create a key pair when gpg cli works fine? |
14:20.13 | mklebel | twosoul82: cpufreq_stats, cpufreq_userspace, cpufreq_powersave, cpufreq_ondemand, freq_table, cpufreq_stats, cpufreq_ondemand, cpufreq_conservative |
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14:22.05 | kubitz | It's also not able to access some keys I created with gpg. I have a feeling which things need changing but i wanted to check |
14:22.54 | kubitz | Can you go through the GnuPG settings dialog with me to get it right? |
14:23.23 | twosouls82 | mklebel: it should be able to read the information from "/proc/cpuinfo" too |
14:23.24 | maki__ | kde-comit-digest is cooking right now or .... ? |
14:23.40 | twosouls82 | I have no clue why it doesn't work for you |
14:23.51 | mklebel | k, im going to restart, and cross my fingers |
14:23.54 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: There was a commit-digest just two days ago. |
14:24.22 | kubitz | Is this a question for you because it's a KDE app or is it a Debian question? It seems to fall between stools. |
14:25.09 | maki__ | SSJ_GZ: Issue 97? |
14:25.33 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: Yep |
14:26.03 | maki__ | its from 10th |
14:26.25 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: It was released on the 16th. |
14:26.59 | maki__ | http://www.commit-digest.org/issues/latest/ |
14:27.08 | maki__ | Issue 97 |
14:27.09 | maki__ | 10th February 2008 |
14:27.09 | maki__ | by Danny Allen |
14:27.09 | maki__ | |
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14:27.48 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: http://dot.kde.org/1203200006/ - Sat 16th |
14:29.16 | maki__ | so the dot publishes a week after comit-digest ? |
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14:30.16 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: No. The date on the digest is the cut-off date for commits that can be included in that digest, IIRC. |
14:30.54 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: So the digest for the 10th February only includes things that have happened in the week leading up to the 10th February. |
14:31.26 | SSJ_GZ | maki__: I'm fairly sure that the Dot publishes the Digest as soon as dannya submits it. |
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14:33.38 | Lanakai | who is on this canal??? |
14:34.37 | jazka | 366 ppl it seems |
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14:39.11 | snaf1 | sorry if this is a faq but does one normally use compiz with kde4 or is kwin supposed to do all the decorating? |
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14:40.07 | g2g591 | snaf1: usually kwin does the decorating, just right click on a title bar and select configure window behavior for a convieniant config window |
14:41.01 | snaf1 | oic, kwin is broken for me then, i have to use compiz to get the title bars |
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14:43.08 | snaf1 | thanks btw |
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14:48.36 | insulina | hello |
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14:49.27 | insulina | how do i set task bar to get similiar tasks as a menu ? ( in kde4 ) |
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14:49.54 | insulina | \to group similiar tasks |
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15:00.50 | theunixgeek | How can I get the old KDE 2 icon theme? ;) |
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15:03.46 | thiago | theunixgeek: "hicolor" icon theme? |
15:04.02 | theunixgeek | thiago: thanks |
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15:04.40 | thiago | expect several icons to be missing |
15:05.04 | theunixgeek | thiago: I'm looking for it on kde-look.org |
15:05.09 | thiago | you'll still get Crystal icons for what's missing, since KDE looks for that |
15:05.15 | thiago | KDE ships with hicolor by default |
15:05.18 | thiago | it should be already installed |
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15:05.37 | mikkoc | ok, i removed by mistake the application launcher plasmoid, in the panel... now when i add it, it goes on the right, beside the clock. |
15:05.48 | mikkoc | how do i solve? :) |
15:05.49 | theunixgeek | thiago: does it? :S |
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15:06.13 | theunixgeek | thiago: not on ubuntu |
15:06.45 | theunixgeek | mikkoc: on the left of the icon a menu should appear. select move and move it :) |
15:07.22 | thiago | theunixgeek: blame ubuntu then. It's shipped in the source packages. |
15:07.26 | theunixgeek | :P |
15:07.26 | thiago | or it's in kdeaddons... |
15:07.32 | theunixgeek | I'll check that |
15:07.36 | mikkoc | theunixgeek: there's no move option |
15:07.42 | thiago | but you don't need to download it from kde-look.org. In fact, you won't find it there. |
15:07.42 | mikkoc | kde4 svn |
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15:09.04 | thiago | mikkoc: do they appear in the panel or on the desktop? |
15:09.21 | mikkoc | thiago: in the panel |
15:09.28 | mikkoc | i remove the application launcher |
15:09.32 | theunixgeek | thiago: you're right. |
15:09.37 | theunixgeek | I'll try kdeaddons |
15:09.42 | mikkoc | now when i add it, it goes on the right... |
15:10.02 | theunixgeek | thiago: I'm quite nostalgic ;) |
15:10.50 | tudon | question. when i select to move windows without showing content in an atempt to save cpu resources. i actually get an even worse effect . when moving a window with content when i see the aquare shape move all other moving things like video or anything else is frozen until i let go of the window no matter if i keep the window stationary or not . untill i let it go it will not update the rest of my desktop. how come?? |
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15:10.58 | mikkoc | 14/02 was last time i updated svn... maybe you guys added a "move" option meanwhile? |
15:11.13 | tudon | without i meant |
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15:18.19 | theunixgeek | Where can I download the hicolor icon theme? |
15:21.08 | theunixgeek | mikkoc: I meant kde 3 ;) |
15:21.28 | kniolet | theunixgeek: i have it in adept |
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15:21.39 | kniolet | hicolor-icon-theme |
15:21.41 | kniolet | i guess thats it |
15:21.58 | kniolet | oh maybe thats for gnome, not sure |
15:22.00 | mikkoc | theunixgeek: i solved :) |
15:22.06 | theunixgeek | mikkoc: :) |
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15:27.05 | snaf1 | Mikkoc; how did you do it? |
15:27.38 | mikkoc | snaf1: right click on the desktop, add wiget, drag the launcher to the left side of the panel :) |
15:27.48 | snaf1 | oic :) |
15:27.59 | g2g591 | I'm sad, trunk (kdebase and one or two others) no longer builds with Qt 4.3 |
15:28.06 | snaf1 | I'm still looking for panel config |
15:28.47 | g2g591 | snaf1: just right click on the edge of the panel, and select panel settings |
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15:29.22 | snaf1 | doesnt seem to work |
15:29.41 | g2g591 | snaf1: version? or last svn update? |
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15:30.19 | snaf1 | checking, 4.0.0 probably |
15:30.30 | snaf1 | no, i think 4.0.1 |
15:30.35 | g2g591 | snaf1: then nope, 4.0 doesn't have it, its only in trunk |
15:30.50 | snaf1 | oh cool, thanks |
15:31.04 | g2g591 | trunk, which only builds with qt 4.4 |
15:31.20 | snaf1 | maybe I'll wait for the ebuild |
15:31.56 | g2g591 | theres one (monolithic qt) on the forums, and hard masked split qt in portage |
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15:32.01 | semelle | hello |
15:32.43 | g2g591 | hi |
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15:33.30 | semelle | i have a question about kdevdesigner |
15:34.05 | semelle | i whould like to create a file named main.cpp under qtdesigner but he said that i have no static qt plugins configured to edit c++ code |
15:34.05 | semelle | do you have any idea ? |
15:34.05 | pinotree | semelle: #qt please |
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15:35.08 | semelle | pinotree, i'm all ready in but they dislike kde |
15:35.24 | pinotree | ... and? |
15:36.13 | semelle | and i think they don t whant to help me |
15:36.44 | pinotree | that's their problem, this is a kde user channel... |
15:37.26 | semelle | kdevdesigner is not a part of KDE ? |
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15:37.52 | pinotree | yes, but you did not say that, before |
15:38.16 | pinotree | then #kdevelop, i'd say |
15:38.31 | semelle | i say it after hello |
15:38.43 | semelle | thanks i go to see |
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15:40.57 | mooper | hey, does anyone know how I can get konqueror to display thumbs for pictures? |
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15:41.51 | faemir | mooper, change your view mode |
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15:42.18 | faemir | view > view mode > icon view |
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15:42.42 | mooper | faemir: yeh, did that |
15:43.05 | mooper | and preview for images is switched on |
15:43.32 | faemir | mooper, dunno then. |
15:43.36 | mooper | :( |
15:43.40 | mooper | bad fedora |
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15:44.59 | semelle | i have a kde question do you know have to change language of the help file ( i have interface in french with kde-i18n-fr but no help file ) ? |
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16:05.50 | GLocked | quelqu'un peut m'aider ? |
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16:11.00 | elfo | Glocked: en quoi? |
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16:11.29 | Glocked | j'ai réussi à faire ce que je voullais faire, mais c'est bizar, j'ai été ban du canal fedora |
16:11.48 | Glocked | quelqu'un connait la commande pour edit un fichier sur fedora ? |
16:12.43 | elfo | Glocked: les memes pour n'importe quelle autre distribution: les plus courants sont nano ou vim |
16:13.18 | Glocked | ah, c'est pas gedit ? |
16:13.48 | semelle | Glocked, tu veux un truc grafique ? |
16:13.49 | elfo | c'est un editeur de gnome... normalement si t'as pas gnome il n'est pas la |
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16:14.05 | testing | hi to all; |
16:14.07 | testing | :) |
16:14.11 | Glocked | euh, je voudrais juste reconfiguré mon menu.lst |
16:14.12 | elfo | donc pour etre sur les gens conseillent des editeurs de console, qui sont present (presque) surement |
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16:14.20 | Glocked | car ubuntu n'est pas reconnus par le grub |
16:14.23 | Glocked | et jpe pas démaré deçus |
16:14.26 | elfo | Glocked: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst |
16:14.34 | Glocked | ouai, jsuis dedant |
16:14.38 | Glocked | mais il est vide ^' |
16:14.41 | Glocked | ^^' |
16:14.45 | elfo | ? |
16:15.02 | elfo | alors sort de la et trouve ton vrai menu.lst |
16:15.16 | jazka | oh come on guys, use English please |
16:15.19 | Glocked | il y a pas sudo sur fedora |
16:15.31 | elfo | Glocked: fedora sux eh eh |
16:15.36 | pinotree | please talk in english, or #kde-fr |
16:15.36 | elfo | Glocked: su - |
16:15.44 | Glocked | ui jsais ^ |
16:15.59 | elfo | Glocked: then: nano /boot/grub/menu.lst |
16:16.16 | Glocked | ahh =) |
16:16.18 | Glocked | trouvé =) |
16:16.23 | elfo | Glocked: if there is not such file, try mounting boot before: mount /boot (always from root) and then retry |
16:16.29 | pinotree | Glocked: please talk in *english*, or #kde-fr |
16:17.00 | elfo | there's not a #kde-en channel? (trolling :p ) |
16:17.08 | pinotree | elfo: this |
16:17.22 | elfo | pinotree: i know, just kidding |
16:17.39 | Glocked | ok jsuis dedant |
16:17.56 | Glocked | je dois édité koi pour rajouté mon grub ubuntu ? |
16:18.01 | elfo | Glocked: il faut que tu parles *ANGLAIS* ici, sinon tu verras banne' encore une fois ok? |
16:18.08 | Glocked | ok |
16:18.19 | Glocked | i must change what for start on ubuntu ? |
16:18.27 | pinotree | #ubuntu |
16:18.32 | semelle | ;) |
16:18.34 | elfo | eh eh |
16:18.40 | elfo | why do you ask that here Glocked ? |
16:18.40 | pinotree | this is for kde help, not for distro support |
16:18.51 | pinotree | if you are banned in other channels, bad for you, sorry |
16:19.10 | Glocked | because, when i have install konversation, i automaticly go here |
16:19.19 | elfo | eh eh |
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16:19.22 | Glocked | ok soory |
16:19.27 | elfo | Glocked: /join #ubuntu |
16:19.29 | Glocked | sorry* |
16:19.31 | elfo | Glocked: /join #kubuntu |
16:19.42 | Glocked | yes, #ubuntu-fr ;) |
16:19.47 | elfo | eh eh :) |
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16:28.34 | jrick | Bouncing of messages (like spam) was removed in KMail for KDE 3.4, however it is still on the features page: http://kaddressbook.com/kmail/features.php Could someone remove it? |
16:29.11 | pinotree | jrick: #kontac |
16:29.14 | pinotree | jrick: #kontact |
16:29.20 | jrick | pinotree: ok |
16:29.54 | jadrian | why was it removed? |
16:30.04 | jrick | bouncing spam is bad |
16:30.20 | jrick | and they added support for other filters like spamassassin and bogofilter |
16:30.35 | jadrian | but you could bounce whatever you wanted... |
16:31.00 | jadrian | you could bounce some message from some guy to pretend you didn't get it |
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16:41.53 | jrick | jadrian: my only guess as to why they dropped it is because people would abuse it for spam (what it was origionally designed for) when now there are better tools. |
16:42.07 | jrick | but you would have to ask the devs in #kontact |
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16:44.25 | insulina | how do i set task bar to group similiar tasks , in kde 4 ? |
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16:47.18 | SSJ_GZ | insulina: I'm not sure if any released version has this functionality, yet, although I think it exists in trunk/ |
16:50.07 | insulina | humm, ok tx |
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16:53.30 | excalq | hey guys, awesome job on kde4, I can't wait to install it on the new system I'm building this week (I've only used a beta so far, but it's impressive) |
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16:57.25 | elfo | impressive.... just wait to be release for the public... then themers and unknown artist will make it even better ;) |
17:00.03 | ublongata | hey how can i get the Windows key to register as a modifier for setting shortcuts KDE 4.0? trying to press the combination i want just shows a bunch of blocky characters. in KDE 3.x apps it shows up correctly as Win+<key> |
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17:02.11 | thiago | ublongata: which Qt version? Which KDE version? |
17:03.51 | ublongata | thiago: KDE 4.0.1, Qt 4.3.2 |
17:04.24 | thiago | I can't reproduce |
17:04.35 | thiago | KDE 4.0.62, Qt 4.4.0 snapshot |
17:04.43 | thiago | It shows as "Meta" |
17:05.17 | thiago | which in hindsight doesn't look correct... if anything, it should be detected as Super |
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17:06.46 | ublongata | i'm on Kubuntu gutsy packages.. maybe it's a distro problem. on my 3.x it shows up as Win tho. not using any of the xkb options/layouts either |
17:07.11 | thiago | right, KDE 3 sees it as Win+ |
17:07.15 | thiago | KDE 4 sees it as Meta+ |
17:07.42 | g2g591 | ublongata: I found Ubuntu/Kubuntu KDE 4 package to be lackluster |
17:07.57 | g2g591 | aka broken |
17:08.16 | ublongata | thiago does your "xmodmap -pm" show it as mod4 Super_L ? |
17:08.30 | ublongata | g2g591: yeah me too actually.. |
17:08.30 | thiago | mod4 Super_L (0x7f), Hyper_L (0x80) |
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17:08.51 | thiago | Meta_L is mod1, along with Alt_L |
17:09.54 | ublongata | thiago looks like we have the same. hm |
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17:10.40 | thiago | ublongata: I remember there being a bug fixed in Qt 4.4 about modifiers |
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17:10.43 | thiago | not long ago |
17:10.56 | thiago | I don't have KDE 4 built with Qt 4.3 here to verify |
17:11.08 | Magnets | Is there any way to save (to a file) the current state of my desktops? Similar to when you log off with windows open, and log back on it opens up your apps where you were. Just incase my machine ever crashes while i'm working, i can restore it myself |
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17:11.50 | ublongata | ah encouraging at least. i'll probably wait for 4.4 packages then |
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17:15.04 | stefo | Magnets: not really. you *could* logout&login, tar up ~/.kde/share/config/session, then, when you wanna restore the session, logout, untar, login. but that's silly. |
17:16.19 | elfo | or |
17:16.26 | elfo | kcontrol -> session |
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17:16.31 | elfo | manually saved session |
17:16.39 | elfo | (apply) |
17:16.43 | elfo | k menu -> save session |
17:17.01 | stefo | hmm |
17:17.22 | stefo | right :) |
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17:24.26 | Magnets | elfo: i can't see anything called "saved session", under kde CC ->kde components->session manager |
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17:25.37 | stefo | Magnets: "restore manually saved session" |
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17:26.05 | elfo | just give a better look :) |
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17:27.40 | Magnets | ah i see it, then i will be able to manually save my session, but does it output to a file? |
17:28.32 | stefo | Magnets: no, it updates the contents of ~/.kde/share/config/session |
17:28.42 | stefo | Magnets: you can then tar that up if you want |
17:28.43 | Magnets | ok thanks |
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17:28.57 | stefo | np |
17:29.18 | Bert__ | I i was wondering if anyone could tell me how to enable Compiz in KDE. im used to Gnome |
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17:33.27 | g2g591 | Bert__: compiz --replace? |
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17:36.28 | Bert__ | g2g591: im sorry but, what? |
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17:37.56 | g2g591 | Bert__: in the (alt+f2) run dialog compiz --replace to activate compiz |
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17:40.43 | Bert__ | g2g591: Its not working. im still not getting anything. |
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17:41.04 | frb-work | were there any major changes from konq 3.5 to 4.0? |
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17:42.04 | wad | Hi, folks. Is this where I could ask questions about xorg.conf? |
17:42.46 | jazka | wad: #xorg |
17:42.51 | wad | ah, okay. thanks. |
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18:02.37 | cmtl | Hi |
18:02.45 | cmtl | I've got KDE 3.5 |
18:02.55 | cmtl | And it recognize my arrow keys in a strange way |
18:03.18 | cmtl | It recognizes up as print, left as iso_3_shift, down as win and left as nothing |
18:03.21 | cmtl | any idea? |
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18:04.24 | adamt | hi |
18:04.34 | cmtl | hi |
18:04.50 | adamt | using kate, how do 1) switch between views, 2) switch back and forth between views and the konsole-part? |
18:05.12 | jazka | cmtl: what distro? |
18:05.18 | cmtl | gentoo |
18:05.25 | Skrot | Hi, is there a known bug with KDE 4 SVN (as recent as from today) where the keyboard doesn't respond at all? I've experienced it a lot lately, always while using konqueror to browse the web as far as I can remember. |
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18:05.55 | adamt | Skrot: it happened earlier altso, because of kwin |
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18:06.47 | Skrot | adamt: Do you know if there's a bug report for it? |
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18:07.28 | Skrot | I've read multiple bug reports about similar problems (e.g alt, ctrl etc not working) but not the same (no keys work) |
18:08.21 | jazka | cmtl: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200060 |
18:08.35 | jazka | (it's not a kde problem so ask in #gentoo or so) |
18:08.40 | cmtl | ty |
18:08.41 | jazka | I had it too |
18:08.50 | cmtl | hal! |
18:08.52 | cmtl | it could be |
18:09.20 | jazka | yep |
18:09.23 | adamt | Skrot: no idea, i stopped following svn several weeks ago. |
18:10.27 | Skrot | okay |
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18:14.40 | Sput | hey adamt :) small world, eh? |
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18:16.15 | adamt | Sput: yeah, sadly |
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18:22.17 | nosrednaekim | is it possible to set global shortcuts for apps in kde4? |
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18:25.35 | cmtl | i éloveé you guys |
18:25.40 | cmtl | love |
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18:25.48 | jazka | cmtl: got it working? |
18:25.49 | SSJ_GZ | nosrednaekim: I can't seem to find a way to do it from the menu editor yet. |
18:25.53 | cmtl | yep |
18:25.56 | jazka | good |
18:26.08 | cmtl | i just needed to switch in kde from 105-keys |
18:26.14 | cmtl | to evdev-managed |
18:26.25 | nosrednaekim | SSJ_GZ » I was looking in system settings, and they only have settings for individual apps |
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18:34.01 | serenity | hi |
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18:34.52 | serenity | my car went to walhalla http://www.flickr.com/photos/23921948@N04/ |
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18:49.12 | anxd | anyone knows why kspread does not open password protected documents ( from ms office ) |
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18:50.53 | wesley | taskbar does not start up by startup from kde4 how to fix ? |
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18:51.18 | boom1992 | wesley: loook in topic^^ |
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18:51.45 | anxd | it doesnt even prompt for username/password |
18:51.46 | wesley | wich topic ? |
18:52.11 | boom1992 | wesley: IRC topic |
18:52.11 | boom1992 | ^^ |
18:52.12 | boom1992 | ;D |
18:52.13 | anxd | it just says its password protected |
18:52.35 | troy | anxd: better ask in #koffice - it might not be implemented - reverse engineering word docs is a real pain in the ass :) |
18:52.45 | anxd | ok |
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18:53.35 | wesley | kicker is not the kde4 panel :S |
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18:54.31 | boom1992 | wesley: i know ;) http://software-libre.rudd-o.com/KDE_4.0.0_emergency_FAQ |
18:55.16 | wesley | can i get also a panel without taskbar ? |
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18:55.39 | boom1992 | wesley: yo RMB-click on taskbar-plasmoid and then remove it ;) |
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18:59.50 | wesley | i still dont have my panel back |
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19:17.38 | PeterFA | Everytime I try to start KDE4 I get an error saying it couldn't start DBUS, and to check me installation. I don't know what to do at this point. I have the D-BUS daemon running as an init script and such, but I don't know what KDE4's issue is and why it's not behaving. |
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19:24.42 | troy | PeterFA: from an xterm try issuing: exec `dbus-launch` |
19:24.51 | troy | PeterFA: then run startkde from the xterm |
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19:25.14 | troy | PeterFA: just to see what happens :) |
19:27.15 | PeterFA | troy: k, thanks. |
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19:29.40 | PeterFA | troy: ugh, it can't find startkde |
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19:29.55 | PeterFA | troy: it was finding it yesterday, what the heck? |
19:30.11 | troy | PeterFA: must be a path problem - type echo $PATH |
19:30.21 | troy | and make sure that startkde is in one of those directories |
19:30.36 | PeterFA | troy: /bin:/usr/bin |
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19:34.15 | PeterFA | troy: I fixed it. |
19:34.28 | PeterFA | troy: and I still get that DBUS error. |
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19:35.28 | troy | can you use the pastebin in the /topic and paste the console ouput when you run startkde? |
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19:37.38 | chulio | is konqueror (in kde4) supposed to work with video.google.com (flash) |
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19:38.31 | troy | chulio: it does, if your flashplayer works... in 4.0.0 there were problems with specific versions of flashplayer... |
19:39.01 | troy | chulio: but I was able to, using a slightly older flashplayer, view the kde4 release event videos, which are google video... |
19:39.19 | troy | chulio: swfdec also works for google video (open source flash decoder) as of the latest version... |
19:39.39 | sredna | as long as you aren't cursed by amd64 :\ |
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19:40.11 | troy | sredna: on amd64, you can still use swfdec to view google video :) (and youtube) |
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19:44.50 | chulio | hm i only get a crash in nspluginviewer no info in konsole |
19:45.14 | chulio | yup I know about swfdec, but still I'd like to get flash working |
19:45.33 | sredna | troy: what is swfdec? (i can view flash in ff using nfswrapper, but it does not work in konqueror) |
19:45.36 | chulio | I just tried again with the latest flash |
19:45.47 | chulio | ...crash |
19:46.42 | chulio | btw konqueror does NOT crash, only the flash plugin |
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19:48.47 | tuxick | chulio: that's normal |
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19:53.08 | chulio | yes just for the record:) |
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19:54.53 | chulio | hm I can't keep the menubar hidden in konqueror, it is always there after I restart konqi |
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19:55.47 | runlevelten | did you save the profile, and set it as teh default profile? |
19:56.01 | runlevelten | s/eh/he/ |
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19:56.20 | unagi | when is kde 4.1 out |
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19:56.36 | dwinslow | unagi: the end of July |
19:56.49 | dwinslow | there's a schedule on techbase.kde.org |
19:56.50 | unagi | ah thank you |
19:56.51 | chulio | runlevelten: good idea |
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19:58.47 | turnschuh | hi kde4-devs/users, i have to install the newest qt4.4 to compile kdelibs4, right okay, is that the newest qt4.4 version: "qt-x11-preview-opensource-src-4.4.0-tp1.tar.gz", i'm weird because this release is from the 12/19/2007?! |
19:59.22 | pinotree | turnschuh: you need qt-copy (see instructions on techbase) |
19:59.30 | turnschuh | okay qt-copy thanks |
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19:59.50 | chulio | runlevelten: hm doesn't work |
20:00.29 | chulio | I've mapped ctrl+shit+q to save profile..., hidden the menu and saved |
20:00.32 | turnschuh | i thought maybe there is an newer snapshot. but okay ;-) |
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20:04.55 | romme | how do i get the menu and toolbar back after hiding them in kget? |
20:05.19 | SSJ_GZ | romme: CTRL+M |
20:05.44 | runlevelten | chulio, you need to set it as the default profile |
20:05.50 | SSJ_GZ | romme: The Settings -> Show Toolbar |
20:05.54 | SSJ_GZ | *Then |
20:06.28 | romme | thanks, the first way worked |
20:06.29 | runlevelten | failing that, you can create a shortcut that goes kfmclient openProfile nomenubar |
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20:07.03 | runlevelten | but if profile saving isn't working for some reason, i guess that won't either. |
20:07.06 | runlevelten | wfm though |
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20:10.14 | chulio | runlevelten: phew manually editing the profile file worked |
20:10.41 | chulio | runlevelten: thanks for the tip, I already forgotten about profile files :) |
20:10.58 | chulio | runlevelten: now for the statusbar:D |
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20:12.40 | Odd-rationale | Hello! Any tips for getting Konqueror better intergrated with lernu.net? |
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20:14.00 | Odd-rationale | runlevelten: Thanks! |
20:14.04 | thiago_home | what's lernu.net> |
20:14.05 | thiago_home | ? |
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20:14.25 | Odd-rationale | thiago_home: Just a site for learning esperanto. |
20:14.52 | thiago_home | Odd-rationale: and what kind of integration did you expect? |
20:15.35 | Odd-rationale | thiago_home: To be able to play sound files in their flash player instead of downloading and using anexternal player |
20:15.58 | Odd-rationale | thiago_home: I can view youtube vidoes, fyi |
20:16.07 | thiago_home | then it's not Konqueror's problem |
20:16.13 | thiago_home | if they have a flash player, Konqueror can show it |
20:16.22 | thiago_home | if Konqueror isn't showing it, it's because they're not sending it. |
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20:16.52 | runlevelten | All seems to be working to me |
20:16.54 | chulio | thiago_home: not for me, nsviewplugin crashes, (using kdesvn build) |
20:17.00 | Odd-rationale | thiago_home: So if it works in ff, it should work in konq? |
20:17.01 | chulio | any pointers? |
20:17.15 | runlevelten | Odd-rationale: looks the same in ff and konq for me - what's teh problem ? |
20:17.16 | thiago_home | chulio: barring bugs, obviously :-) |
20:17.21 | runlevelten | *the |
20:17.26 | thiago_home | Odd-rationale: no. The website can be sending different webpages. |
20:17.50 | Odd-rationale | runlevelten: I can't play the sounds in the flash player. |
20:18.09 | runlevelten | which page? |
20:18.13 | chulio | thiago_home: heh, but seriously is there anything I can do? |
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20:18.26 | runlevelten | (and this sounds more like a dsp setting or a flash issue, but anyway) |
20:18.27 | sredna | Odd-rationale: they seem to like ie 5.0 and ff 1.4, so maybe you should tell them konqueror is ie or ff ;) |
20:18.40 | Odd-rationale | http://en.lernu.net/kursoj/bkd/bildo.php?parto=1& for example. Try the blue play icon |
20:18.53 | Odd-rationale | sredna: Will try |
20:18.54 | runlevelten | Odd-rationale: thanks |
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20:20.01 | runlevelten | works in ff with a lot of latency, hang on |
20:20.24 | thiago_home | chulio: fix the bug |
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20:20.40 | thiago_home | chulio: you can try downgrading flash too |
20:21.02 | chulio | thiago_home: any "known good" version? |
20:21.11 | chulio | thiago_home: I'll try |
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20:21.53 | chulio | btw lernu.net does not seem to work for me in konqi (v3) with browser id set to ie6/ff1.5 |
20:22.38 | Odd-rationale | chulio: ok thanks, Maybe they just don't support konq. |
20:23.18 | Odd-rationale | Is there any light qt gecko browser? |
20:23.33 | thiago_home | Odd-rationale: there is no Qt Gecko browser, light or no |
20:24.11 | Odd-rationale | thiago_home: You mean I have to install GTK+?! :) |
20:24.18 | chulio | Odd-rationale: hm they can't really "not support" konq |
20:24.22 | thiago_home | Odd-rationale: if you want to use Firefox, yes. |
20:24.49 | runlevelten | You need to get them to debug their javascript, if they care enough |
20:25.02 | runlevelten | or consider launching the flash normally, heh |
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20:25.16 | Odd-rationale | runlevelten: ok thanks for you help! |
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20:26.05 | sredna | Odd-rationale: i don't know how far it got, but the kmplayer crew is working on flash support that includes the js interface |
20:26.10 | runlevelten | sorry I'm not more help - I've just spent the day wading through code and I haven't teh mental stability to do any more |
20:26.25 | oowop | i would like some help on how to get the 3d windows to appear when moving around the cube |
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20:26.52 | Odd-rationale | oowop: using compiz0-fusion? |
20:27.11 | oowop | yes |
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20:27.13 | thiago_home | oowop: ask in #compiz |
20:27.14 | oowop | sabayon 3.4f |
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20:27.25 | oowop | thnank you |
20:27.42 | Odd-rationale | oowop: You need to install an extra plugin called 3d windows |
20:27.53 | oowop | and where would i get it from? |
20:28.04 | Odd-rationale | oowop: Compiz-fusion website. |
20:28.05 | oowop | i thought that it would come with it... |
20:28.13 | oowop | cuz it has the option in the settings |
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20:37.47 | frb-work | does kde-edu have it's own site? |
20:38.01 | pinotree | like http://edu.kde.org ? ;) |
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20:38.19 | djouallah | hello all, happy to be here again ! |
20:38.21 | frb-work | guess that works |
20:38.29 | djouallah | hope u missed me ! |
20:38.40 | frb-work | I was looking for a link on kde.org |
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21:06.44 | phlux | Will konstruct upgrade from 3.x to 4.x? |
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21:13.22 | ki | UR AL UNDR AREST |
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21:14.23 | Japsu | ;D |
21:15.05 | ki | IM ARESTUIN U UNDE RSUPSION OF DOING CRIME |
21:16.02 | PhilRod | yes, ok. very funny. You can stop anytime now |
21:16.15 | namelessjon | Hi. I'm using KNotify via dcop in a cronjob (in KDE 3.5.8). But when the windows appear, they're in the top left corner. Is there some way to make them appear down at the bottom right? |
21:16.30 | ki | DONT DO CRIME |
21:16.33 | jthomas | I am using x11vnc server on a RHEL5 box, and KRDC to view that x11vnc. If my mouse isn't constantly moving, the connection goes black until I move the mouse again; the connection isn't actually lost though. What can I possibly change to prevent this? |
21:16.37 | ki | U HAV NO BEEN ARESTED |
21:16.46 | jthomas | thanks ki |
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21:16.56 | jthomas | thanks PhilRod |
21:17.08 | PhilRod | hrm, forgot I was still op |
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21:27.00 | dwinslow | tech9iner: what do you mean? in table view you can sort by clicking the table headers |
21:27.44 | fage | tech9iner: they wont bring you fun, at least they didnt for me |
21:28.05 | fage | i like emelFM more, though its pretty simplistic |
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21:37.20 | tech9iner | dwinslow: allow me to clarify ;]].. via keyboard.. we dont abide slowing down our input here by 60-1800% to do mouse clicks ;]]].. clear as mudd yet ;]].. |
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21:39.27 | dwinslow | tech9iner: ah, i didn't realize you could sort using the keyboard at all |
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22:00.37 | troy | sredna: swfdec is an open source flash decoder/plugin |
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22:00.54 | troy | sredna: google is your friend :) most distros have packages somewhere for it |
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22:09.10 | capcavern | In kate option Open/Save .I want to be able to "Backup on save" in a specific folder ,not at the root of the open file. The option is not in the settings=>configure=>Open Option/Save .And i could not find the file in ~/.kde/% where i could manually write to a file. |
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22:12.25 | jadrian | Ah KDE 3.5.9 is already available in openSUSE reps :) |
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22:13.12 | jadrian | and http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.5.9.php :) |
22:13.30 | troy | jadrian: shh :P |
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22:18.57 | frb-work | no one cares about 3.5 anyway |
22:19.09 | mattie | i do :) |
22:19.26 | mattie | i care about both =) |
22:19.29 | frb-work | then you're "no one" :) |
22:19.34 | mattie | lol |
22:20.20 | the_one | ;) |
22:22.09 | the_one | my desktop seems to sense me because as a random screensaver it just started the matrix =) |
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22:22.57 | steve__ | hi everyone |
22:23.10 | steve__ | can someone help me set my resolution in kde 3.5 for gentoo |
22:23.16 | steve__ | i have xorg.conf open |
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22:23.37 | steve__ | its set to 640x768 atm and i would like 800x600 or 1024x768 |
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22:24.02 | steve__ | do i just replace the 640xblah with what i want in xorg.conf |
22:24.35 | dwinslow | steve__: xorg questions belong in #xorg |
22:24.39 | extor | Does Quanta give you a "preview" of the html somewhere? Or an editing mode where you can directly edit text on the previewed rendition of a web page? |
22:24.47 | steve__ | ok sorry |
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22:26.46 | frb-work | extor: yes |
22:29.12 | x_link | Hi |
22:29.15 | x_link | Have a question. |
22:29.22 | pinotree | ask it |
22:29.54 | x_link | kControl --> KDE Components --> KDE Performance --> Minimize Memory Usage. |
22:30.05 | x_link | Never, For file browsing only (recommended) |
22:30.10 | x_link | Always (use with care) |
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22:30.30 | x_link | Filebrowsing is when I'm looking in/on my files etc. right? |
22:30.33 | rui_ | i have some problems with kde4 |
22:30.43 | rui_ | it's slow on my pc :S |
22:30.59 | x_link | My question is, would it be "better/faster" if I put it on "Never"? |
22:31.10 | rui_ | can anybody help me please? |
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22:32.32 | troy | rui_: you have to give more details than 'it's slow' :) |
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22:32.49 | rui_ | i'm not sure if it's a bug |
22:32.58 | rui_ | what is the minimal requesits for kde4? |
22:33.20 | rui_ | the pc is an AMD semprom 3000+; Nvidia 6150; 1gb ram |
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22:33.44 | troy | x_link: I use "Always", and I haven't had problems - the root of the thing is that if konqueror crashes, if it's using shared memory, all konq windows will crash... whereas if they are unique processes, only the current window will crash |
22:34.04 | troy | rui_: min reqs are much lower than that -- the ASUS EEE runs KDE 4 just fine :) |
22:34.08 | troy | rui_: distro? |
22:34.21 | troy | rui_: and self-compiled, from packages, etc... |
22:34.36 | capcavern | In kate option Open/Save .I want to be able to "Backup on save" in a specific folder ,not at the root of the open file. The option is not in the settings=>configure=>Open Option/Save .And i could not find the file in ~/.kde/% where i could manually write to a file. |
22:34.38 | rui_ | fine :D |
22:34.44 | rui_ | distro: OpenSUSE |
22:35.11 | troy | rui_: do you have the 3D stuff enabled? |
22:36.22 | dwinslow | capcavern: i think that feature doesn't currently exist in kate |
22:36.32 | dwinslow | you can file a wish at bugs.kde.org |
22:36.43 | troy | capcavern: you might have to hack it, or file a wish... :) |
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22:39.45 | capcavern | <troy> thx ,but it's sade and surprising. |
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22:39.59 | troy | capcavern: well, it's not emacs :) |
22:40.07 | rui_ | troy: sorry kde crashes :S |
22:40.16 | rui_ | yeah...i have 3d effects enable |
22:40.24 | rui_ | but disable stills slow |
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22:40.36 | troy | rui_: you are using the opensuse packages? |
22:40.43 | rui_ | yes |
22:40.43 | shevy | can the individual kde components "survive" (as in they will work) in different prefixes? |
22:40.47 | rui_ | i think yes :p |
22:40.59 | capcavern | troy: ^^ |
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22:41.27 | troy | shevy: you are referring to Gobo? |
22:41.42 | shevy | well no, in general, like put kdelibs into /bla and kdebase in /foo |
22:42.44 | rui_ | troy: do you know what is the problem? |
22:42.50 | troy | shevy: sure - as long as everything gets into the path, and the libs are picked up... the only problem might be things that end up in the /share/ folders... they might not like being separate, as the programs might not find their icons/.desktop files, etc... |
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22:43.16 | shevy | ok, gonna try :) |
22:43.33 | troy | rui_: no - all you've told me so far is that it's slow - on a machine of your horsepower, and using the normal packages, it shouldn't be that slow - without more information, I cannot solve your problem... |
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22:43.59 | rui_ | can i give you that informations? |
22:44.03 | troy | shevy: for libs/binaries, it'll work :) |
22:44.47 | troy | rui_: I don't know what slow means for you - is it slow when painting a window - is it slow when booting? app startup? resizing stuff? loading icons... etc... |
22:44.51 | hola | im not able to configure my webcam in kubuntu 7.10 |
22:45.02 | troy | hola: #kubuntu |
22:45.15 | rui_ | is hard to explain |
22:45.18 | rui_ | no problem |
22:45.23 | rui_ | thanks otherwise ;) |
22:45.55 | troy | rui_: if you check 'top' from a console, what does it say your system load is? |
22:46.18 | troy | (it should be a row of three numbers at the upper edge of the 'top' printout) |
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22:46.47 | troy | on my system I get load average: 0.14, 0.16, 0.09 |
22:47.03 | troy | (but that's with firefox running, on account of gmail... so that boosts the numbers a bit) |
22:47.41 | rui_ | 0.40 |
22:47.52 | rui_ | load average: 0.28, 0.98, 1.02 |
22:48.08 | rui_ | 15706 root 15 0 94304 43m 5296 S 3.0 4.9 0:34.93 Xorg |
22:48.08 | rui_ | 15860 rui 15 0 102m 44m 19m S 2.7 5.0 0:08.61 plasma |
22:48.08 | rui_ | 15859 rui 16 0 197m 36m 11m S 1.7 4.2 0:06.85 knotify4 |
22:48.08 | rui_ | 16546 rui 15 0 61600 16m 12m S 0.3 1.9 0:00.69 konsole |
22:48.21 | rui_ | with 3d effects disabeld |
22:48.22 | rui_ | disable |
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22:49.23 | frb-work | is that a 64bit machine? |
22:49.34 | rui_ | no |
22:50.53 | troy | well, at least X hasn't run away with your memory on that machine... none of the kde apps in that list are excessively hogging the CPU or anything, so that leaves things like repainting problems, debug symbols, etc... |
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22:51.39 | troy | I'm not in kde4 right now - can anyone tell me if the knotify4 mem usage is typical? |
22:52.29 | frb-work | why does kde4 on windows home page say "report bugs", but when I run amarok, it says "don't report bugs" |
22:54.03 | pinotree | because amarok guys don't want |
22:54.08 | x_link | troy: Okey. |
22:54.09 | lilltiger | amarok is self maintained |
22:54.10 | shevy | hehe |
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22:54.40 | x_link | So, KDE Performance -> Minimize Memory Usage should be on "Always" instead of "For File browsing only (recommended)" ? |
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22:57.13 | troy | x_link: works for me- if konq is unstable for you, then change it back |
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22:57.59 | troy | frb-work: amarok is still in alpha |
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23:03.06 | shaga | Hi all, doesn't anybody here have an info about the kdetalk.net jabber server? It is down for two weeks and I have my jabber account there, so I consider moving, but you know how difficult this is :( |
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23:05.26 | troy | shaga: you'll probably have to find out whoever is the jabber admin and talk to them directly, or email the sysadmin@kde.org address and hope someone there has access to the jabber server |
23:07.58 | shaga | troy: Thanks a lot, I'll try. |
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23:20.03 | x_link | troy: Okey, I wonder if I will notice any difference =) |
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23:30.30 | arcticpenguin380 | is kde 4 stable yet? |
23:31.33 | pinotree | stability is subjective |
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23:34.47 | shaga | pinotree: subjectivity is objective |
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23:50.26 | x_link | This is proberly a stupid question. |
23:50.43 | x_link | But is there way to make KDE work "faster"? |
23:51.23 | MinceR | whip it |
23:51.26 | dwinslow | x_link: you can turn off the animations and such, I suppose |
23:51.37 | x_link | MinceR: ? |
23:51.43 | MinceR | it was a joke. |
23:51.48 | x_link | dwinslow: Okey, I will take a look. |
23:51.52 | x_link | MinceR: Ohh, sorry =) |
23:52.03 | x_link | My english isn't very good. So I don't get everything all the time 0) |
23:53.22 | dwinslow | x_link: the kpersonalizer wizard that runs when you start kde the first time has a slider that will let you configure 'how much' animation to use without bothering too much about which animations those are |
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23:55.22 | x_link | dwinslow: Okey, I installed Kubuntu. So I didn't get that wizard. |
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23:55.37 | x_link | Is it possible to install that thing or something? |
23:55.38 | x_link | =) |
23:56.45 | dwinslow | x_link: i don't know; you could use apt-file to search for the package that provides kpersonalizer |
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