| 00:00.32 | proximo | allright, i get an errormessage stating "Malformed URL - file:///home/username |
| 00:01.39 | proximo | if i try to change home directory i get "Could not find mime type |
| 00:01.39 | proximo | application/octet-stream" |
| 00:02.05 | proximo | then "no MIME types installed" and d3lphin crashes |
| 00:02.44 | dasKreech | Ugh |
| 00:02.57 | dasKreech | Dolphin can't do Octet-streams? |
| 00:03.31 | proximo | no idea what i octet-stream is even ^^ |
| 00:06.02 | pinotree | proximo: open a console, and execute kbuildsycoca |
| 00:06.38 | proximo | loads of warnings |
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| 00:07.13 | proximo | starts with kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 93, expecting version 94 or higher. |
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| 00:07.56 | ddasd | hi |
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| 00:08.10 | ddasd | i read that i can enable strigi and the daemon somewhere in kde4 |
| 00:08.12 | ddasd | where ? |
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| 00:09.52 | ddasd | nepomukdaemon is running |
| 00:09.56 | ddasd | in systemsettings |
| 00:10.08 | ddasd | but if i add a comment in doplhin it does not get saved |
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| 00:18.35 | [nix] | How do I disable status bar in konqueror? |
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| 00:20.42 | harry | where are the kde sound settings kept? |
| 00:21.53 | harry | (ie at what location in .kde) |
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| 00:26.50 | proximo | hmm still nogo on that d3lphin |
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| 00:27.41 | mr1968gto | does someone know how to stop a program from auto opening a playlist from Live 365? |
| 00:27.56 | ddasd | a program ? |
| 00:27.57 | pinotree | eh? |
| 00:28.11 | [nix] | How do I disable status bar in konqueror? |
| 00:28.34 | mr1968gto | I have installed VCL and its launching automatically when I click play in Live 365. I want Amarok to poen though |
| 00:29.15 | mr1968gto | Im sorry, VLC |
| 00:29.24 | ddasd | [nix]: kde4 or kde3.5 |
| 00:29.33 | mr1968gto | 3.5 |
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| 00:29.43 | [nix] | ddasd: 3.5 |
| 00:29.49 | mr1968gto | oh, lol |
| 00:29.55 | ddasd | mr1968gto: you have to associate the extension with amarok |
| 00:30.08 | ddasd | mr1968gto: first find out which extension you are clicking on |
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| 00:30.17 | mr1968gto | ddasd: I have it associated with it but it still opens VLC |
| 00:30.28 | mr1968gto | ddasd: they are .pls extesions |
| 00:30.47 | ddasd | hm you are opening from firefox or konqueror ? |
| 00:30.55 | mr1968gto | ddasd: firefox |
| 00:30.58 | ddasd | hmhmhm |
| 00:31.03 | [nix] | ? |
| 00:31.19 | mr1968gto | ddasd: I even removed vlc from the extesion list |
| 00:31.21 | ddasd | anyone can help me, if these are other extension configured elsewhere ? pinotree? |
| 00:31.52 | pinotree | i don't know what firefox does with mimetypes |
| 00:31.53 | ddasd | [nix]: i am currently running the 4.0 session , i cant look at 3.5 settings |
| 00:32.13 | [nix] | ddasd: well, can you do it in 4? |
| 00:33.07 | derek_k | mr1968gto: look at firefox preferences |
| 00:33.26 | ddasd | mr1968gto: es gibt eine extension für mimetypes editieren |
| 00:33.26 | mr1968gto | derek_k: I looked arund, found nothing |
| 00:33.40 | mr1968gto | ddasd: what what what? lol |
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| 00:34.12 | derek_k | preferences->content->file types |
| 00:34.21 | derek_k | mr1968gto: this isn't a kde issue |
| 00:35.03 | mr1968gto | derek_k: Im sorry, I missed it in firefox, I checked again and found it. was hideing in plain sight |
| 00:35.05 | pinotree | root: hey! don't irc as root! |
| 00:35.30 | mr1968gto | Thanx for the help though |
| 00:35.39 | pinotree | carlos: you are always root ;) |
| 00:35.51 | carlos | why? |
| 00:36.02 | pinotree | because you are... |
| 00:36.08 | ddasd | [nix]: i cant find it, but i know it was there in the 3.x series sometimes |
| 00:36.32 | smileaf | carlos: changing your irc nickname doesn't change the user your logged into your computer as. |
| 00:36.43 | [nix] | ddasd: i wish you knew, cause I've been looking for that option since the beginning of time, lol |
| 00:37.06 | ddasd | there must be someone with kde3.5 around |
| 00:37.23 | smileaf | lots of kde3.5 people around. |
| 00:37.27 | [nix] | ddasd: if you can't find it in 4, then I'm sure it doesnt exist |
| 00:37.39 | ddasd | [nix]: no kde4 has less features |
| 00:37.51 | [nix] | ddasd: wt... |
| 00:37.54 | smileaf | lots less atm. :( |
| 00:37.57 | dasKreech | Than Amiga |
| 00:38.15 | [nix] | well, that sucks, lol |
| 00:38.15 | ddasd | yeah!!! i just found the "unclose tab" feature in konqueror 4 |
| 00:38.17 | ddasd | :-) |
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| 00:38.52 | ddasd | [nix]: everything is new |
| 00:38.55 | mitchells000 | stupid thing :/ |
| 00:39.13 | [nix] | if someone knows how to hide the status bar, they must be a god or something |
| 00:39.14 | mitchells000 | won't change my nick.. |
| 00:39.27 | mitchells00 | there |
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| 00:54.40 | smileaf | :( .. my chocolate penguin I got for christmas is almost too cute to eat .. lol |
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| 00:55.22 | dasKreech | smileaf: send me :) |
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| 00:55.40 | smileaf | http://images.smileaf.org/img:da1d62018a7217247189308ea1ebe879/500/ |
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| 00:57.12 | Jucato | yum! |
| 00:57.27 | Jucato | hi smileaf!! (belated) Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year :) |
| 00:57.31 | smileaf | oh my... he is still alive! |
| 00:57.35 | dasKreech | ha ha that's very wallace and grommit |
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| 00:58.01 | dasKreech | Don't you belive it it's the ghost of his voice |
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| 00:58.36 | Jucato | smileaf: there was a kdmtheme for kde4 question here a few hours ago (roughly 6+ hours) |
| 00:58.54 | Jucato | well, kdm theme (not necessarily kdmtheme) |
| 00:59.12 | smileaf | Jucato: doesn't exist its now the kdm's dialog. |
| 00:59.23 | dasKreech | smileaf: Ossi is doing KDM4KDE4 Right? |
| 00:59.25 | Jucato | yeah... I meant that he was asking about kdm themes |
| 00:59.40 | smileaf | dasKreech: eh? |
| 00:59.54 | smileaf | Ah, I don't do themes. |
| 01:00.02 | dasKreech | smileaf: insert spaces as you see fit :) |
| 01:00.06 | smileaf | don't know a thing about them actually =) |
| 01:00.20 | Jucato | smileaf: well just a basic question, will kdm themes from kde3 work in kde4 w/o porting? |
| 01:00.28 | proximo | i keep getting the mimetype error for octet-stream on both d3lphin and now also superkaramba |
| 01:00.37 | Jucato | (and yet he authored the kdmtheme utility... nice :P) |
| 01:00.42 | smileaf | Jucato: don't see why not. |
| 01:01.00 | smileaf | Jucato: I also authored the autostart utility and I don't even use the feature =p |
| 01:01.19 | smileaf | which is actually why its not seeing much development atm :/ |
| 01:01.23 | Jucato | :D |
| 01:01.27 | Jucato | lovely :) |
| 01:01.32 | dasKreech | Jucato: as I understand it no |
| 01:01.48 | dasKreech | Jucato: Oooh a D3lphin question :) |
| 01:02.21 | Jucato | not really. it's a mimetype Q |
| 01:02.22 | Jucato | :P |
| 01:02.36 | dasKreech | I have yet to confirm with Ossi but I think the plan is that eventually KDM will use plasma for themes |
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| 01:03.08 | dasKreech | proximo: Konqueror opens it fine correct? |
| 01:03.31 | proximo | dasKreech: konqueror opens fine yeah |
| 01:04.11 | proximo | dasKreech: but im now experiencing the same error when im installing themes in superkaramba |
| 01:04.21 | dasKreech | proximo: Does Konqueror have a mimetype for an octet-stream > |
| 01:04.23 | dasKreech | > |
| 01:04.27 | dasKreech | ? |
| 01:04.46 | proximo | dasKreech: how do i go about finding that out? |
| 01:05.05 | proximo | btw, i uninstalled dolphin now and could install things in superkaramba at least |
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| 01:12.08 | fanti | hi there! what packages are needed to enable the "cpu profile function" for "powersafe, performance, ondemand" in kde ? the speedstep and powersafe/performance/... govenor are compiled in kernel ? |
| 01:12.51 | ddasd | hm kdeutils oder kdeaddons |
| 01:13.05 | ddasd | and then add the battery widget to the taskbar |
| 01:13.53 | fanti | it is. i can use the suspend function but the menu-entry for "cpu profile -> performance, on demand, etc" is missing :( |
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| 01:16.21 | ddasd | fanti: install KDE Powermanager |
| 01:16.37 | ddasd | http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/KDE_Powermanager |
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| 01:17.04 | fanti | ddasd: ah, i'll try. thank you |
| 01:19.18 | ddasd | is there a quickstart widget for kde4 somewhere ? |
| 01:19.23 | ddasd | i need it desperately |
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| 01:36.15 | hdevalence | in which part of ~/.kde are the sound settings kept? |
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| 01:37.15 | thiago | for which application? |
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| 01:38.51 | hdevalence | thiago: the general KDE settings |
| 01:40.31 | hdevalence | thiago: the ones you change with kcontrol>sound&multimedia>sound system |
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| 01:47.53 | thiago | search for arts's configurations |
| 01:48.10 | thiago | arts isn't a KDE application even though it's part of KDE |
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| 02:17.57 | fizzle_ | hey guys |
| 02:18.03 | fizzle_ | just compiled KDE from source. working great only one prob |
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| 02:18.22 | fizzle_ | when i click the Home button in the menubar at the bottom i get an error |
| 02:18.39 | fizzle_ | cannot find parent item file:///home/fizzle in the tree. internal error |
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| 02:32.41 | dasKreech | Sho_: Are you on Ars? |
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| 02:52.29 | madik | hi. i got some kind of "improvement" maybe useful and so includable in the next releases of kde. where have i to go to get it into kde? |
| 02:52.38 | madik | btw: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=72320 |
| 02:56.21 | dasKreech | madik: #kde-devel |
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| 03:48.20 | articpenguin3800 | whos the main dev of KDE |
| 03:48.58 | derek_k | articpenguin3800: there are around 200 |
| 03:49.37 | articpenguin3800 | but it says No single group, company or organization controls the KDE source code |
| 03:49.48 | thiago | that's correct |
| 03:50.01 | thiago | last time I checked, 200 is not a single anything |
| 03:50.19 | articpenguin3800 | the devs have the right to reject the code |
| 03:50.33 | thiago | yes |
| 03:50.44 | NeoOokami | But they do so together. It's not like they veto things on a whim. |
| 03:50.46 | articpenguin3800 | like linus torvalds controls the kernel |
| 03:50.59 | mad | articpenguin3800: dont forget: you can forge the code, whenever you watn |
| 03:51.07 | articpenguin3800 | not like gnome |
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| 03:51.36 | derek_k | articpenguin3800: why do you ask? |
| 03:51.53 | squarebottle | Hey, what's the easiest way to make a DVD out of an AVI file? :( |
| 03:51.56 | mad | its more like: they own the server, the code ist hosted on, so they decide, whats goin in. you are totally allowed to mirror the codebase and do your own thing |
| 03:52.05 | articpenguin3800 | just wondering in case i start to get into adding a little code into kde |
| 03:52.09 | NeoOokami | squarebottle: Easiest tool I know for the job is tovid. |
| 03:52.18 | dasKreech | Linus controls the Linux kernel? |
| 03:52.23 | dasKreech | news to me :) |
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| 03:53.01 | _CitizenKane_ | I think that Linus is more like a release manager, lots of people decide what goes in and what stays out |
| 03:53.30 | mad | indeed. he holds major parts of the ucrainyan stock market, too |
| 03:53.38 | dasKreech | People just kinda like Linus' tree is all |
| 03:53.55 | articpenguin3800 | Linus Torvalds supervises code changes and releases to the latest kernel versions |
| 03:54.29 | NeoOokami | Linux heads up the authoritative tree. But he's hardly the only big kernel dev. o_O |
| 03:54.40 | mad | articpenguin3800: i think you shouldnt be afraid to hack code for the waste-bin. just talk to the main-devs should solve all your sorrows |
| 03:54.50 | articpenguin3800 | anderw morton |
| 03:55.04 | derek_k | articpenguin3800: do your code, email the changes to whoever maintains the application you are working on |
| 03:55.40 | dasKreech | unless the person doesn't exist |
| 03:55.49 | articpenguin3800 | who maintains the kde base code |
| 03:55.58 | articpenguin3800 | that siego person |
| 03:56.24 | articpenguin3800 | asiego |
| 03:56.38 | _CitizenKane_ | articpenguin3800, a lot of people maintain the KDE base code, including asiego |
| 03:56.42 | dasKreech | articpenguin3800: about 200 people :) |
| 03:56.47 | articpenguin3800 | good |
| 03:57.09 | thiago | articpenguin3800: join the #kde-commits channel and watch the names scroll by |
| 03:57.29 | articpenguin3800 | g2g |
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| 03:57.50 | dasKreech | articpenguin3800: If you would like to maintain a few million lines of code by yourself we would be ecstatic for you to fork KDE and do a bang up job! |
| 03:58.05 | dasKreech | I have a few requests if you wanna get started :) |
| 04:02.15 | squarebottle | Are there any decent frontends to ffmpeg that could help me convert to MPEG-2 with AC3 audio? Or could anybody possibly tell me the command real quick? |
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| 04:05.03 | NeoOokami | squarebottle: tovid will employ mencoder and mpeg2encoder to make perfect DVD compliant mpgs for you. |
| 04:05.13 | NeoOokami | From anything mplayer can decode. |
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| 04:12.18 | squarebottle | NeoOokami: that'd be great if tovid was in the Ubuntu repository. |
| 04:13.09 | squarebottle | NeoOokami: According to the Tovid website, I'd need to recompile ffmpeg and such because the version in the Ubuntu repository is "messed up." |
| 04:13.47 | NeoOokami | Sorry to hear that. o_O |
| 04:14.04 | squarebottle | NeoOokami: So,if I can just use ffmpeg, that'd be great. The only thing is that there's about a million commands. |
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| 04:18.42 | eyeris | `svn checkout -r753229 svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdepimlibs` gives the error 'svn: Connection closed unexpectedly' but I can checkout many other repos (e.g. kdelibs) |
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| 04:34.00 | ockham | anyone here wanna help me with a question about screen resolution? |
| 04:34.40 | NeoOokami | Ask away and maybe? |
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| 04:36.26 | SJrX | Hmmmm who do I ask KDE 4 RC2 Gutsy Questions too? |
| 04:37.03 | ockham | thanks, im running kde off of gentoo/sabayon and need to change my resolution to 1280x1024, the highest allowed is 1024X786, should I do anything besides update my xorg.conf file? |
| 04:37.22 | SJrX | that should be fine ockham |
| 04:37.53 | eyeris | ockham you need to restart the X server after updating your xorg.conf file. |
| 04:39.25 | smileaf | ockham: that would also be a question for #xorg not here ;) |
| 04:39.53 | ockham | *smacks head |
| 04:40.01 | ockham | thanks |
| 04:43.10 | SJrX | Next question is what is the KDE4 equivilant of kicker. It seems to crash when I use KDE 3 krandrtray. |
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| 04:49.42 | Roey | long time no see! |
| 04:49.50 | Roey | ok, good night all :) |
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| 05:09.08 | sigma_123 | finnaly 4.0 is around the corner. wonder if they have squashed alot of bugs |
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| 05:09.32 | NeoOokami | I shiver with antici...pation. :D |
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| 05:20.49 | secleinteer | hi, does anyone know if it's possible to hide the virtual desktop pager, but still have virtual desktops in effect? |
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| 05:25.17 | dasKreech | secleinteer: don't see why not |
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| 05:27.22 | secleinteer | dasKreech: ah, didn't realize you could just remove the pager and the virtual desktops would still function |
| 05:27.25 | secleinteer | thanks for the help |
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| 05:42.12 | secleinteer | dasKreech: one other question - is it possible to not have the system tray show up on certain desktops? |
| 05:42.30 | secleinteer | certain virtual desktops* |
| 05:42.56 | dasKreech | Hmm that's a bit beyond me I don't think there is a new kicker for each desktop |
| 05:43.46 | secleinteer | ok, thanks again |
| 05:46.28 | dasKreech | Though you might be able to do it with dcop |
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| 06:14.43 | se7en | i can get mails but not send out |
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| 06:32.37 | Yurivilca | http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t |
| 06:32.39 | Yurivilca | Check out Mike Huckabee's latest psychotic utterance! |
| 06:32.48 | mohankumar | I'm running fedora 8 + KDE. After few hours top shows that 'X' consume 30-90% of cpu time |
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| 06:33.06 | mohankumar | is there any way to fix it out? |
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| 06:33.16 | mohankumar | anyone else faced the same problem? |
| 06:33.38 | mohankumar | with the same machine, when i run gnome, x consumes < 10% cpu |
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| 06:59.30 | elidier | tengo problemas con el 3d bery |
| 06:59.55 | elidier | me pueden ayudar |
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| 07:02.09 | troy | mohankumar: it's not X's fault - some app has a leak, or isn't killing threads properly or something... it doesn't happen here for me in KDE, so it's likely something wrong with the fedora packages, sadly... |
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| 07:03.27 | dasKreech | mohankumar: Flash? |
| 07:03.44 | dasKreech | I normally find it's some flash thing when X does that |
| 07:04.02 | dasKreech | once in a while it's akregator but normally it's Flash |
| 07:10.31 | troy | Jucato: duck! |
| 07:10.44 | troy | Jucato: happy holidays :) |
| 07:12.03 | dasKreech | What? why? |
| 07:13.23 | troy | dasKreech: I need to go get some data off of my remote seismic stations - taking a little trip around the frozen northlands with my hard disk to do data dumps :) |
| 07:14.20 | dasKreech | a small shell script? |
| 07:14.53 | SJrX | KDE changes my screen size when I log in. Where do I change this? |
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| 07:19.19 | Yurivilca | http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t |
| 07:19.21 | Yurivilca | Check out Mike Huckabee's latest psychotic utterance! Vote Romney 2008 He is different!!! |
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| 07:35.16 | fizzle | can someone help me fix kde |
| 07:35.18 | fizzle | i dunno wtf happened |
| 07:35.28 | fizzle | all my menus just disppeared and i cant access anything |
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| 07:37.05 | KomiaPoika | hi |
| 07:37.08 | KomiaPoika | how can i import kdepim-3.5.7 settings into kdepim-3.5.8? i copied ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail into the new machine, but i don't see any of my mail accounts when i start kmail ... |
| 07:37.16 | Yurivilca | http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t |
| 07:37.18 | Yurivilca | Check out Mike Huckabee's latest psychotic utterance! Vote Romney 2008 He is the tech candidate that will lead America into the 21st century! |
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| 07:42.27 | dasKreech | troy: who has kick rights? |
| 07:42.51 | mohankumar | troy: if thats application specific things, i should notice them on gnome too |
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| 07:44.56 | mohankumar | troy: from today i started using gnome, let me find out whether same thing happens in gnome also |
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| 07:50.16 | mohankumar | dasKreech: its not flash specific also |
| 07:50.25 | dasKreech | ok |
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| 07:57.13 | PhilRod | mOrO^: #kubuntu |
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| 08:33.58 | Burps | How can I setup a Konsole shortcut so that it start automatically a a remote ssh session on a given computer ? |
| 08:34.21 | Burps | (if I'm not clear, I can try to explain..) |
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| 08:42.45 | PhilRod | Burps: probably easiest just to define a bash alias |
| 08:42.57 | PhilRod | or whatever your favourite shell is |
| 08:43.22 | PhilRod | or do you mean you want the shortcut to *start* a konsole with an ssh session? |
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| 08:46.41 | PhilRod | anyway, if you meant the latter, then you can create a shortcut in khotkeys (control center -> regional & a11y -> input actions) that starts "konsole -e ssh foo@bar.com" |
| 08:47.05 | PhilRod | or add an entry to your k menu that runs that command, and set a shortcut for it there |
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| 08:50.41 | Burps | OK, PhilRod : that's the latter, I think I see, I'll try that |
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| 08:57.32 | Burps | PhilRod : OK, that works... for the 1st open shell. When I open a new session, that it's only local :/ any solution ? |
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| 09:16.41 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 09:17.12 | Kebianizao | does anyone know where the kmail identities configuration are stored? |
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| 09:23.54 | qupada | Kebianizao: ~/.kde/share/config/emailidentities by the looks |
| 09:24.58 | Kebianizao | qupada: thanks I expected that on config/kmail* or apps/kmail/ |
| 09:25.25 | qupada | my first thought was kmailrc too |
| 09:26.52 | netuser | hi, i m using kmplayer, i can display softsub using mplayer but cant using kmplayer, help? |
| 09:27.04 | Kebianizao | qupada: thanks a lot, really :) |
| 09:27.39 | Kebianizao | netuser: have you checkout the mplayer output inside kmplayer? |
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| 09:28.45 | Kebianizao | or maybe kmplayer doesn't support them |
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| 09:28.55 | Kebianizao | well, not of much help I know :S |
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| 09:29.33 | netuser | Kebianizao: how do i do that? |
| 09:29.51 | netuser | no, it worked before |
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| 09:30.09 | netuser | i changed distro, but that shouldnt affect much right? |
| 09:30.46 | Kebianizao | netuser: I stopped using kmplayer long time ago but I think there was some option i the menu: view -> console or smth like that |
| 09:31.02 | Kebianizao | maybe you could also run it in the command line |
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| 09:32.25 | netuser | Kebianizao: yeah, there was an error bout cant load font face... |
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| 09:37.40 | Kebianizao | netuser: there you have it then :) |
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| 09:39.49 | Richlv | "Switch Tabs on Hover" can now be disabled, and other refinements in Kickoff for KDE 4.0. |
| 09:39.54 | Richlv | that's, like, GREAT |
| 09:40.15 | Richlv | my biggest annoyance with kickoff now is configurable away =) |
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| 10:06.10 | PhilRod | Burps: ah, you mean new tabs? I thought perhaps it was possible to create a session that runs a particular command - let me see |
| 10:06.55 | Burps | PhilRod: yeah, exactly that |
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| 10:11.34 | corporeal | i assume kde4 will look better in the final release than it does now in rc2? |
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| 10:12.28 | corporeal | or at least let me change the font sizes? o.o |
| 10:13.32 | FiNeX | hi!ù |
| 10:13.38 | corporeal | lo |
| 10:14.36 | FiNeX | :-) |
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| 10:15.06 | corporeal | ok, anyone here running kde4? |
| 10:17.20 | Kebianizao | there should be, but mostly developers |
| 10:18.35 | corporeal | brb |
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| 10:21.07 | corporeal | damnit. every kde app except for... for plasma? and... whatever the kde menu is... listens to the fonts settings in systemssettings-kde4 |
| 10:21.12 | corporeal | but those two apps, dont |
| 10:21.14 | corporeal | and its aggravating |
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| 10:23.37 | PhilRod | Burps: ok, I've got step one (making a new session to do what you want) |
| 10:24.33 | PhilRod | copy $KDEDIR/share/apps/konsole/shell.desktop to ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/remotesession.desktop (say) |
| 10:24.51 | PhilRod | where $KDEDIR is `kde-config --prefix` |
| 10:25.26 | PhilRod | then edit remotesession.desktop, so that the Exec line reads: |
| 10:25.35 | PhilRod | Exec=bash -c "ssh foo@bar.com" |
| 10:25.41 | PhilRod | or whatever |
| 10:26.34 | PhilRod | then run kbuildsycoca (you'll get approximately 2 million warnings) |
| 10:27.11 | PhilRod | oh, in that file, also edit the Name and Comment lines (you can delete all the other language ones that you don't need) |
| 10:27.35 | PhilRod | do that before kbuildsycoca |
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| 10:28.01 | PhilRod | then start a completely new konsole, and in the session menu, you'll have an option for your new session type |
| 10:28.07 | PhilRod | voilà |
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| 10:56.23 | Burps | PhilRod : ok, it works (though it's not as comfortable as wished...), thx :) |
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| 10:56.41 | PhilRod | yeah, I'm kind of surprised that there doesn't seem to be an easier way to do it |
| 10:57.02 | PhilRod | maybe there is. I'm just used to the way things work under the hood, so I tend to go straight to the config files |
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| 11:00.08 | Jucato | happy holidays PhilRod! ) |
| 11:00.09 | Jucato | :) |
| 11:00.19 | PhilRod | hiya Jucato! Same to you! :-) |
| 11:02.23 | Burps | "it just works" ;) |
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| 11:10.11 | Kebianizao | bye all |
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| 11:21.53 | theunixgeek | KDE 4 is awesome. |
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| 11:22.22 | theunixgeek | I have an old PC from 2001 and Plasma and all the other special effects thingy run normally on the old graphics card! |
| 11:22.41 | theunixgeek | Beryl doesn't work at all on it, though. |
| 11:23.51 | ddasd | theunixgeek: i think beryl works better |
| 11:24.03 | theunixgeek | ddasd: on an old PC with an ancient graphics card? |
| 11:24.35 | ddasd | dont know , my badest pc has a nvidia 6600 gt |
| 11:24.53 | ddasd | this is ancient too |
| 11:25.00 | ddasd | and it works great |
| 11:25.17 | theunixgeek | well, Fedora and *buntu all crash when I try to run beryl :P |
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| 11:31.41 | PhilRod | ymmv, it seems |
| 11:32.47 | pinotree | hey PhilRod! |
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| 11:33.22 | PhilRod | hiya pinotree. Happy holidays! :-) |
| 11:33.39 | pinotree | thanks, hoping you're doing nice holidays as well :) |
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| 11:34.56 | Pensacola | hmh where did my buttons go in konversation? |
| 11:35.27 | Pensacola | nm found it :) |
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| 11:37.48 | buDDa | halo |
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| 11:49.10 | ddasd | can anyone help me with kde4 where to find the new background images ? |
| 11:49.17 | ddasd | i only found the default flower |
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| 12:14.59 | int | i wonder can i read kde4 faq somethere? for ex i want to configure taskmanager to not show windows from all desktops. and also i want to move panel to the left edge of screen |
| 12:15.34 | thiago | I don't think there's a FAQ yet. |
| 12:15.39 | thiago | you can start it for us. |
| 12:16.07 | ddasd | @ techbase ? |
| 12:16.39 | thiago | I say the techbase is the wrong place |
| 12:16.46 | thiago | start it on wiki.kde.org |
| 12:18.02 | int | ok, i even didn't find out howto add ff launcher to panel yet |
| 12:18.56 | ddasd | int: dont think its yet possible |
| 12:19.45 | int | heh, ok |
| 12:20.17 | ddasd | use favorites in the starter , but i hope there is a widget in playground (and i think there is one) , try to build this |
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| 12:23.41 | int | ddasd: ok, thx |
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| 12:25.29 | gima | I use fedora 8 with kde 3.5.8. I set LANG=en_US.utf8 LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.utf8 in /etc/sysconfigi18n .when i'm in the console ,it's all righi LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.utf8,but in kde LC_CTYPE changed to be en_US.utf8,anybody konws why?THX! |
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| 12:52.53 | Mazaev | Can someone give me a hand.. am I missing something here... I create a second panel from the right-click menu in kicker, and it makes a full size panel. I can move it around, add stuff, but how do I make it smaller? Right-clicking into "panel config" only seems to affect the primary kicker panel. |
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| 12:55.29 | makasd0 | There's an option called "Unredirect Fullscreen Windows" in CompizConfig Settings Manager, which does the following - "Allow drawing of fullscreen windows to not be redirected to offscreen pixmaps". With this option OFF, I can play fullscreen VLC videos, but with it ON I can't. |
| 12:55.36 | makasd0 | As it is now, the only way I know to play not-fullscreen VLC is to disable Compiz. Does anyone know how I can set my VLC to "not be redirected to offscreen pixmaps" when it is not running in fullscreen? |
| 12:55.42 | thiago | makasd0: wrong channel |
| 12:55.49 | thiago | ask in #vlc or #compiz |
| 12:55.56 | makasd0 | ok thanks |
| 12:55.59 | thiago | neither is a KDE application |
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| 13:02.56 | Mazaev | Well.. if anyone else is having the same problem as me with the panels, the fix is "touch ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc" after creating new panel. |
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| 13:06.24 | h3xagram | hello, I am wondering how to associate all of my media files to KDE? |
| 13:06.32 | h3xagram | excuse me... to VLC |
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| 13:07.18 | h3xagram | I don't really care for Noatun or any of that... |
| 13:07.27 | h3xagram | If anyone could help me I would greatly appreciate it :) |
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| 13:11.33 | aton | [blocks B ] <=app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.1 (is blocking app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.7) <- das kommt wenn ich uD world machen will, hat jemand ne idee? |
| 13:12.19 | MinceR | try asking that on #gentoo.de or something |
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| 13:14.00 | aton | oh sorry |
| 13:14.06 | aton | wrong channel |
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| 13:25.30 | spawn57 | how do I show and hide the location toolbar in konqueror |
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| 13:30.47 | spawn57 | the text to speech button is _insane_ lol |
| 13:32.00 | Finley | spawn57, which one ? |
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| 13:34.37 | spawn57 | the one on the extra toolbar |
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| 13:37.52 | Enquest | Does kde have an app to snap windows in certain positions on large screens... So I can divide my desktop in 3 places? |
| 13:38.10 | Enquest | this way I don't have to resize a window al the time |
| 13:38.41 | benJIman | Enquest: If they're specific applications you can remember the size/position for those apps |
| 13:39.21 | benJIman | Enquest: Otherwise I don't believe so, you can quickly maximise vertically only by middle-clicking the maximise button, and horizontally by right clicking it too. |
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| 13:39.59 | Enquest | should have something like this |
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| 13:40.32 | Enquest | I would like to set some markers (bars) on my desktop and a window should open in them and snap to those sizes |
| 13:40.56 | Enquest | With al these large display's its realy annoying to size each window each time |
| 13:41.17 | Enquest | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000928.html |
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| 13:45.28 | Biohazardous | will reinstalling (removing, installing) cause any problems? |
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| 13:45.47 | Biohazardous | *kdebase |
| 13:45.48 | Biohazardous | lol |
| 13:47.31 | apriori | Biohazardous: usually not |
| 13:47.35 | thiago | no, but it won't cause any good either |
| 13:47.42 | apriori | but actually it depends on what your distribution does when doing that |
| 13:47.47 | thiago | it's like replacing six for half-a-dozen :-P |
| 13:47.59 | Biohazardous | trying to get the libsensors dependancy cleared up |
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| 13:48.12 | thiago | then you'll get a difference because it's no longer the same installation |
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| 13:48.26 | Biohazardous | hoping it helps |
| 13:48.35 | Biohazardous | apparently konversation is uninstalled, yet i'm using it *rolls eyes* |
| 13:48.37 | Sho_ | Enquest: Look at a tiling window manager like ion |
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| 13:49.45 | Biohazardous | sweet, it worked :) |
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| 14:12.03 | LimCore | why the hell some idiots set stupid limits without any reason? |
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| 14:26.43 | netuser | hi, i keep on getting messages like this: ERROR: ld.so: object './foo.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
| 14:26.49 | jbd | Hello everybody. I'm working with touchscreens (elotouch), and i'd like to know if there is a way to configure the maximum distance between two clicks, because it's quite difficult to perform a double click action on a touchscreen :) |
| 14:26.49 | netuser | can you guys help me solve? |
| 14:28.09 | Finley | netuser Which OS are u using ? |
| 14:28.42 | netuser | Finley: archlinux, why? is it a distro specific problem? |
| 14:29.04 | Finley | What Kde component are you using ? |
| 14:29.10 | Finley | Better question. |
| 14:29.19 | Finley | If no one,then refer to Xorg |
| 14:29.44 | Finley | or GenericDE (Gnome.... ) |
| 14:30.02 | netuser | Finley: oops wrong tab, sorry |
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| 15:53.35 | sredna | hi |
| 15:54.01 | sredna | i can't seem to have window shadows in kde 4 (buily from svn yesterday). what could be wrong? |
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| 15:54.20 | ddasd | have you activated the shadow manually ? sredna |
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| 15:54.55 | sredna | ddasd: yes, in the desktop settings |
| 15:55.38 | sredna | in kde3 window shadows works fine |
| 15:57.16 | ddasd | i can send you a screenshot from yesterday kde4 where the shadows work |
| 15:57.23 | ddasd | but taht wouldnt help you |
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| 15:59.34 | sredna | grr |
| 15:59.59 | sredna | i also can't get transperancy to work in kde4, or for example the "dim dialog parent" plugin |
| 16:00.02 | sredna | but shadows are badly needed, since windows otherwise becomes indistinguishable with oxygen |
| 16:00.53 | Jucato | hm.. I thought they fixed that oxygen "issue"? |
| 16:01.26 | sredna | Jucato: what issue? |
| 16:01.35 | Jucato | [23:59] <sredna> but shadows are badly needed, since windows otherwise becomes indistinguishable with oxygen |
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| 16:01.56 | sredna | Jucato: that is by design |
| 16:02.44 | Jucato | I thought they either 1) changed the window background color a bit or 2) added a thin line around windows... forgot it by now... anyway.. I did say I thought it was fixed :) |
| 16:04.11 | sredna | the window background is decided by the color scheme, so that is no reliable path. using the designated titlebar color would be a good start, although it don't solve the problem completely. |
| 16:04.46 | sredna | of course one allways have the black triangles in the corners to look for :o |
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| 16:05.35 | ordchar | hi, when i drag icons around on desktop, and in konqueror they leave an ugly trail |
| 16:05.57 | ordchar | this didn't use to happen, but with upgrading .. any idea what package might be responsible? |
| 16:06.51 | sredna | ordchar: upgrading to what? |
| 16:07.13 | ordchar | probably kde 3.5.7 |
| 16:07.38 | sredna | hm, there really shouldn't be much difference with that |
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| 16:08.01 | Sho_ | sredna: Oxygen windows have a bevel frame now that should fix the "windows bleed into each other" problem |
| 16:08.19 | sredna | Sho_: really? |
| 16:08.43 | sredna | since yesterday? |
| 16:08.45 | Sho_ | sredna: As for the shadow effect, it currently only works with the OpenGL compositing codepath, not with XRender, so make sure your OpenGL works and the COMPOSITE extension is loaded |
| 16:08.51 | Sho_ | sredna: No, since several weeks |
| 16:09.03 | sredna | hm, i'll have to look again |
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| 16:09.26 | sredna | how do i make sure COMPOSITE is loaded? |
| 16:09.31 | ordchar | sredna, i guess the ati driver might be responsible too .. i'll try to narrow it down |
| 16:09.36 | Sho_ | http://www.eikehein.com/dolphin.png for both the window bevel frame and the shadows |
| 16:09.39 | sredna | is that the X composite thing? |
| 16:10.09 | sredna | that looks nice, Sho_ - i wish i could make it look like that here too |
| 16:10.34 | Sho_ | sredna: If you have X.org 7.3 / xorg-server 1.4, the COMPOSITE extension will be loaded by default. In older versions, you have to add something like http://rafb.net/p/Rr28ub25.html to your xorg.conf |
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| 16:11.32 | ddasd | someone can point me to the new wallpapers of kde4 ? |
| 16:11.44 | sredna | xdpyinfo tells me that composite is loaded indeed |
| 16:11.47 | ddasd | i got only bullshit installed , are they in kdeartwork ? |
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| 16:12.00 | Sho_ | ddasd: They've not been added yet afaik :( |
| 16:12.05 | sredna | maybe it's not available in the second display? |
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| 16:21.57 | sredna | hm, oxygen doesn't work well with light colors |
| 16:22.09 | sredna | the shadows and other effects i can't seem to get to work |
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| 16:35.45 | FreshPrince | hi |
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| 16:51.01 | savetheWorld | Hi, I'm using konsole and i want to use a specific font DejaVu Sans Condensed, 11 which is not listed in the slect font dialog. Any suggestions on how I can do this? |
| 16:51.56 | sredna | savetheWorld: i think konsole requires a fixed-width font |
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| 16:52.15 | savetheWorld | oh. |
| 16:52.30 | savetheWorld | I mean |--oh--| :-) |
| 16:52.35 | sredna | ;) |
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| 16:53.06 | Jucato | savetheCheerleader, savetheWorld |
| 16:53.46 | MinceR | |-o-| ? |
| 16:54.18 | Jucato | and <-o-> (star wars fighter ship.. forgot the name) |
| 16:54.57 | MinceR | tie bomber? |
| 16:55.01 | MinceR | <-oo-> |
| 16:55.51 | pinotree | tie fighter |
| 16:56.27 | MinceR | tie fighter is |-o-| |
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| 16:56.54 | pinotree | root: don't irc as root! |
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| 16:56.59 | pinotree | damn, too late ;) |
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| 16:57.02 | Jucato | :) |
| 16:57.08 | Jucato | oh, happy holidays btw pinotree :) |
| 16:57.24 | savetheWorld | MinceR: Its a fixed width response.. :-) |
| 16:57.34 | MinceR | :) |
| 16:57.44 | MinceR | happy solstice-related holidays. |
| 16:57.58 | savetheWorld | |-------------------oh-------------------| <-- a longer fixed width response... :-) |
| 16:58.12 | Jucato | heh :) |
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| 17:01.04 | Jucato | (no thanks. but thanks for the offer :P) |
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| 17:09.35 | ddasd | perhaps on #plasma |
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| 17:11.57 | shevy | hmm i think i just found it in my notes... TabWidget |
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| 17:21.53 | Xinill | Hi again |
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| 17:26.46 | dieterha | kde |
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| 17:38.49 | zwerg | Hi there. |
| 17:39.23 | zwerg | I've got an Intel graphics chip and just tried out kde4 from Debian experimental. |
| 17:40.25 | zwerg | When activating OpenGL effects, I only see window borders instead of the window itself. Anything I can do? |
| 17:41.08 | Gentle | sounds like the early compiz bugs with broken tfp implementations. But really, I can't help you there, never ran plasma with opengl effects |
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| 17:41.30 | dassd | zwerg: what version is this ? |
| 17:41.52 | zwerg | Kwin? |
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| 17:43.01 | zwerg | 4:3.97.0-2 in Debian notation. Any other way to find that out? |
| 17:43.49 | zwerg | XRender works fine, btw. |
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| 17:46.26 | zwerg | Another thing, I'd like to implement some applets, is there a good database somewhere of what's already done? Plasma in playground maybe? |
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| 18:18.35 | verve | hey.. i was just wondering if there's any problems with iPod Nano 3Gs with Amarok, or if they work fine |
| 18:20.31 | faemir | verve: you need 1.4.8 |
| 18:20.36 | faemir | I think |
| 18:20.49 | faemir | certainly the latest libgpod |
| 18:20.51 | faemir | which amarok uses |
| 18:21.27 | verve | hm |
| 18:21.30 | verve | i have installed.. |
| 18:22.29 | verve | libgpod-common 0.5.2-2 and 0.5.2-2 |
| 18:22.48 | verve | and amarok 1.4.7 |
| 18:22.49 | verve | doh |
| 18:22.50 | faemir | verve: from the amarok news page |
| 18:22.52 | faemir | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:22.54 | faemir | ;) |
| 18:22.58 | faemir | time to get 1.4.8 I think |
| 18:23.27 | verve | hm |
| 18:23.36 | verve | it's not in Gutsy updates =\ |
| 18:23.37 | verve | boo |
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| 18:24.41 | verve | are my libgpod versions high enough? |
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| 18:28.01 | faemir | verve: dunno |
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| 18:28.04 | faemir | try looking on getdeb |
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| 18:28.09 | faemir | or begging on the forums ;) |
| 18:28.18 | specofdust | ello ello |
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| 18:29.29 | verve | begging on the forums? |
| 18:29.35 | verve | lulz |
| 18:29.42 | verve | there, getting 1.4.8 |
| 18:29.46 | verve | it's in gutsy-backports |
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| 18:33.22 | specofdust | Simple question: I've got a couple of icons in my taskbar that I want to remove. How do I go about doing such a thing? |
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| 18:36.26 | hdevalence | what does it mean when in .kde/share/config I have a file eg kdeglobals and then kdeglobalsiGYVfc.new kdeglobalsMDjloc.new etc |
| 18:37.29 | hdevalence | are the latter ones used? or are they backups? |
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| 18:39.53 | xkisskissx | I just got a new computer as a gift and it uses KDE 3.5.6 . I changed some user settings and I got an error http://rafb.net/p/VT2e0818.html, now I can't even log on and I have no idea how to fix the problem. Or even how to use the system really. |
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| 18:41.49 | Xinill | Launch dcop server |
| 18:43.23 | xkisskissx | how do you do that? This is all completely new to me. |
| 18:43.35 | thiago | dcopserver |
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| 18:44.48 | Xinill | Just type it in the console |
| 18:45.21 | Xinill | ...or wait for kde4, which wouldn't have that silly dcop :) |
| 18:45.33 | xkisskissx | console? |
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| 18:45.52 | Xinill | console/terminal program |
| 18:46.02 | Xinill | If you have KDE, use Konsole |
| 18:46.15 | xkisskissx | ok, hold on |
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| 18:52.54 | xkisskissx | it says "command not found" |
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| 18:54.50 | Freddy2 | hi |
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| 19:00.28 | anti-windows | update |
| 19:00.39 | pinotree | ?? |
| 19:01.20 | anti-windows | how do you update sabayon? |
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| 19:02.32 | thiago | ask in #sabayon |
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| 19:10.51 | sarefo | has anybody else experienced this: when upgrading debian from etch->lenny, the fonts in kde are suddenly *really large*. but the display res is the same, and the point size in the kde configs is the same too. strange... |
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| 19:14.52 | Xinill | DPI? |
| 19:15.09 | sarefo | huh? :) |
| 19:15.35 | Xinill | Point Size == DPI, you mean? :P |
| 19:16.02 | sarefo | i guess so. what i mean is the size number for fonts. that's dpi, right? :) |
| 19:16.20 | Xinill | Oh, no it isn't |
| 19:16.23 | Xinill | DPI is pixels per inch |
| 19:16.29 | Xinill | Set it in kcontrol, or in xorg.conf |
| 19:16.54 | Xinill | Lower DPI == smaller fonts |
| 19:17.29 | sarefo | you know where it is in kcontrol? i've been looking for something like that, but didn't find it. |
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| 19:18.21 | Xinill | Appearance->Fonts |
| 19:18.35 | antonio_ | oio |
| 19:18.36 | Xinill | Force fonts DPI. |
| 19:18.44 | antonio_ | cade |
| 19:18.49 | sarefo | oh, i was there but didn't see it. thx |
| 19:19.05 | Xinill | np |
| 19:20.27 | sarefo | so, apart from setting back my status quo, is some dpi preference preferable? (96 vs 120) |
| 19:20.44 | thiago | yes: your monitor's DPI. |
| 19:21.18 | sarefo | do i need a ruler for that, or is there some nifty way of determining it? ;) |
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| 19:23.53 | thiago | your monitor generally knows its size |
| 19:23.58 | thiago | but it might be broken... |
| 19:24.03 | Xinill | sarefo: I prefer 96DPI, personally |
| 19:24.12 | thiago | if you don't set the DPI, X will calculate the correct value on its own. |
| 19:24.14 | Xinill | I have set it in xorg.conf, because i want it not-only in KDE |
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| 19:25.51 | GreenVadoxFa | as |
| 19:27.35 | thiago | of |
| 19:27.50 | specofdust | What is ksystraycmd? |
| 19:28.05 | PhilRod | specofdust: starts an app with a system tray icon |
| 19:28.13 | PhilRod | see the kde user guide on docs.kde.org |
| 19:28.48 | specofdust | Ah ok, thanks. Didnt even know there were docs for KDE. Will that tell me how to get rid of an icon? |
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| 19:30.56 | specofdust | Hmm, I found an article that covered ksystraycmd, but it didn't tell me how to get rid of an unwanted icon :/ |
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| 19:35.39 | Guilt | thiago, hey |
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| 19:36.31 | PhilRod | specofdust: you'll have to close the program that owns the icon |
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| 19:37.05 | PhilRod | also, the docs for kde are installed locally too (you can view them in khelpcenter or via help:/appname in konqueror) |
| 19:37.06 | WaY | hello |
| 19:37.10 | PhilRod | hi WaY |
| 19:37.49 | WaY | what do I have to do for only showing in my taskbar tasks from the desktop I am on, with compiz running in ubuntu? |
| 19:38.42 | thiago | WaY: #compiz. |
| 19:38.52 | thiago | that's a compiz problem, even if the affected problem is kicker. |
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| 19:39.12 | WaY | ok, thanks |
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| 19:40.43 | specofdust | philrod, that doesn't seem like much of a solution. Why would opera need two icons in my taskbar? They're both fullfilling roughly the same task. But the ksystraycmd one is less useful :( - I just want to get rid of it instead of having to hide it. |
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| 19:41.05 | specofdust | There has to be a better solution than just living with it surely. |
| 19:43.59 | WaY | its a problem with viewports of kde taskbar |
| 19:44.39 | thiago | yes, it's a problem that compiz doesn't honour the concept of desktops |
| 19:44.43 | thiago | so there's only one |
| 19:44.49 | thiago | therefore, kicker is correct in showing all tasks |
| 19:46.04 | specofdust | That wasn't at me was it? |
| 19:46.11 | Guilt | thiago, i was asking you regarding socksifying and kio_http_slave :-) |
| 19:46.22 | Guilt | i sent you a diff sometime back |
| 19:46.36 | thiago | Guilt: sorry, I have already forgotten what it was about... |
| 19:46.40 | thiago | specofdust: no |
| 19:47.03 | Guilt | thiago: konqi won't use socks (dante/NEC) for http URLS |
| 19:47.13 | thiago | right |
| 19:47.24 | thiago | I'm sorry, but I'm not going to apply the patch to KDE 3.5 |
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| 19:47.32 | Guilt | so i sent a diff which mods the behavior to: if socks and http set, don't use them. |
| 19:47.35 | thiago | it's technically a new feature. |
| 19:47.38 | thiago | I remember that |
| 19:47.43 | thiago | the patch was correct |
| 19:47.43 | Guilt | but if only socks set, use.. |
| 19:47.52 | Guilt | hmm |
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| 19:52.48 | Guilt | thiago, the behavior of socks for HTTP isn't defined.. |
| 19:53.24 | Guilt | well. i'm asking if you could consider it, i would be very thankful |
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| 19:59.08 | Guilt | my typical situation is i use: ssh -D 1080 -fN user@server, and use 127.0.0.1:1080 as a socks proxy :-) the problem is my net-adm can't allow me to set up a separate socks proxy, hence |
| 20:01.24 | Xinill | Bye |
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| 20:11.40 | specofdust | Ok, I've read the documentation, I've googled, I've played. I still can't find any way of removing this second superflous Opera icon that kSysTrayCmd is spawning. Anyone got any ideas? |
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| 20:13.04 | qupada | opera -notrayicon |
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| 20:15.06 | specofdust | That got rid of the icon I didn't want, but it also got rid of the Icon i wanted to keep :/ |
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| 20:15.31 | specofdust | Is there any way of simply disabling kSysTrayCmd? If that icon is all it's doing, it seems like it could die. |
| 20:15.39 | qupada | well when you had two icons, only one of them was being made by ksystraycmd |
| 20:15.51 | qupada | the opera people feel it is somehow necessary to make one of their own |
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| 20:16.04 | specofdust | Well yes, because the opera one is useful. |
| 20:16.20 | specofdust | The kSysTrayCmd one isn't, which is why I want to get rid of it and not the opera one. |
| 20:17.22 | qupada | why are you using ksystraycmd then? it's sole purpose in life is to run apps without system tray capabilities in the system tray. opera doesn't exactly fit that category |
| 20:17.22 | PhilRod | why are you using ksystraycmd if you don't want it to produce a system tray icon? |
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| 20:17.37 | specofdust | I dont _WANT_ to be using ksystraycmd qupada :) |
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| 20:18.03 | specofdust | I havnt a clue how or if i turned it on...disabling it would be a great solution |
| 20:18.32 | PhilRod | it's not a thing you turn on, it's a wrapper. if you run "ksystraycmd someapp", it'll run someapp with a system tray icon |
| 20:19.09 | specofdust | Ok. Well, I'm certain I didn't type anything like that (since I didn't even know ksystraycmd existed untill I got annoyed by that superflous icon) |
| 20:19.22 | specofdust | How do I uncommand it though? |
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| 20:20.41 | specofdust | Bah...it's gone now anyway. And I dont know why. All I did was change the command on the shortcut to include -notrayicon and then back again. |
| 20:21.04 | specofdust | Oh well, thanks for explaining stuff anyway guys :) |
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| 20:31.12 | hyper__ch | hiho, I have a small problem and I think two things are linked together: (1) in kontact I have troubles with the ssl certificate... it worked until today just fine but now I get prompted about a mismatch... I then select "continue" and "accept forever" but after a restart the same problem persits. the other thing I noticed now is that I can't use the fish protocol in konqueor. I just get an error: 2An error occurred while loading fish://....." |
| 20:31.12 | hyper__ch | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:31.37 | qupada | well on the second issue, try sftp:// instead |
| 20:31.56 | qupada | it's a whole lot faster, fish:// is a compatibility protocol for ssh servers without the sftp extension |
| 20:32.04 | qupada | no idea on the ssl issue sorry |
| 20:32.09 | hyper__ch | qupada: An error occurred while loading sftp://..... |
| 20:32.17 | hyper__ch | qupada: I think those two things are linked together |
| 20:32.22 | Blissex | hyper__ch: two very different things as 'fish:' is based on SSH not SSL... |
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| 20:32.43 | hyper__ch | Blissex: can't just be an accident that both stop working at the same time |
| 20:32.46 | qupada | Blissex: it could be an error with the openssl library that has broken ssl for multiple apps |
| 20:32.55 | Blissex | qupada: note that 'fish@' may have a better transfer rate actually as it does less encapsulation. |
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| 20:33.41 | Blissex | qupada: but they use completely different libraries. OpenSSL and OpenSSH libraries have not relationship to each other, annoyingly. |
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| 20:34.13 | Blissex | hyper__ch: to check out what is happening on the SSL front, have a look at the ''extended'' information on the certificates. |
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| 20:35.04 | Blissex | hyper__ch: check 'Settings>Configure Konqueror:Crypto>Peer SSL Certificates' |
| 20:35.59 | qupada | Blissex: actually openssh uses openssl. wouldn't make any sense for them to write their own crypto implementation when someone else has already done it |
| 20:36.20 | qupada | Blissex: try 'ldd /usr/bin/ssh'. libssl.so.* will be in the list |
| 20:36.40 | hyper__ch | qupada: I have three in there.... one is localhost, another one is from another email account and the last one I have no clue |
| 20:36.51 | hyper__ch | qupada: but from my mailserver is nothing in there |
| 20:37.50 | qupada | can you try sshing into a machine at a console. if it's a library issue you might at least get a sensible error message |
| 20:38.05 | hyper__ch | qupada: yeah, it's my server |
| 20:38.15 | hyper__ch | qupada: shall I mount it locally? |
| 20:38.24 | hyper__ch | with sshfs? |
| 20:39.09 | qupada | an ssh shell will do fine |
| 20:39.44 | hyper__ch | ok |
| 20:39.52 | pedepy | is it true that kde4 plasma will run apple dashboard widgets or was that just part of a wishlist ? |
| 20:40.22 | hyper__ch | done |
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| 20:41.40 | Blissex | qupada: well, here (fedora 7) 'ssh' does not depend on ssl: |
| 20:41.43 | Blissex | $ ldd /usr/bin/ssh | grep -i ssl | wc -l |
| 20:41.43 | Blissex | 0 |
| 20:41.47 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: It should do eventually, but not before Qt4.4 |
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| 20:42.40 | qupada | Blissex: can you pastebin the entire output of ldd /usr/bin/ssh then? it might just be using a different library (gnutls or nss) |
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| 20:45.06 | hyper__ch | the only thing unusual I notice is that kio_imap4 is using all my cpu |
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| 20:47.08 | Blissex | hyper__ch: sometimes the KIO slaves are buggy... |
| 20:47.27 | hyper__ch | maybe I should restart |
| 20:48.40 | Blissex | http://rafb.net/p/gZC5gx91.html for 'ldd /usr/bin/ssh' on Fedora 7 |
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| 20:50.56 | hyper__ch | brb |
| 20:51.02 | qupada | hyper__ch: maybe just restart kde |
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| 20:51.16 | hyper__ch | qupada: not running "kde" |
| 20:51.19 | qupada | ah |
| 20:51.22 | qupada | never mind then |
| 20:51.31 | hyper__ch | qupada: just linking lots of kde appz ;) |
| 20:51.42 | hyper__ch | qupada: konqueror, amarok, kopete, kate |
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| 20:52.25 | hyper__ch | brb |
| 20:52.35 | Blissex | hyper__ch: Linux From Scratch? Gentoo? Russian roulette? :-) |
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| 20:53.14 | qupada | 'russian roulette' would be an awesome name for a distro :D |
| 20:54.31 | Blissex | perhaps ''linux from iron oxide''? |
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| 21:12.12 | Clinton__ | How can I define the path that KDE's "Run Command" uses? |
| 21:12.48 | pinotree | PATH |
| 21:12.52 | pinotree | as usual |
| 21:13.18 | Clinton__ | that's what I thought, however, KDE's path does not seem to have /usr/local/bin |
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| 21:14.20 | Ace2016 | Hi hi hi |
| 21:14.25 | Ace2016 | i found a bug in kde3 |
| 21:14.31 | Ace2016 | with the way konqueror sorts files |
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| 21:16.26 | Ace2016 | i had files bla-1, bla-2 ... bla-9, i renamed them to bla-01, bla-02 ... bla-09 and i selected bla-09, pressed ctrl+C, then ctrl+v, then it said rename, i picked bla-10, and the new folder appeared after bla-01!!!!!! which means it still thought it was bla-1, thats a bug right??? |
| 21:16.50 | Clinton__ | no, bla-10 is before bla-2 |
| 21:17.36 | Clinton__ | bla-1, bla-10, bla-11, bla-2 |
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| 21:19.14 | Clinton__ | Ace2016: you'll find this to be an interesting article: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001018.html |
| 21:20.05 | raw-bin | Greets. A problem. Am using KDE 3.5.8 from Kubuntu. I've a custom "Show Desktop" keyboard shortcut (Ctrl-,). Having invoked it, if I then invoke katapult or the Run Dialog, the last maximized application gets maximised again automatically. Any clues ? |
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| 21:21.33 | Ace2016 | Clinton__: read again, it was bla-1, bla-2 ... bla-9 which got renamed! then it was bla-01 ... but the coppied file acted as if it was still bla-1 and bla-2 |
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| 21:25.12 | pedepy | hey |
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| 21:25.21 | pedepy | can one run compiz fusion's widget layer plugin to treat plasmoids in kde4 as widgets ? |
| 21:25.35 | pedepy | like I currently do with either karamba or screenlets widgets ? |
| 21:25.50 | SSJ_GZ | pedepy: Dunno about Compiz Fusion, but kwin-composite can. |
| 21:26.14 | pedepy | usually its just a matter of getting the right 'window info' like name or something |
| 21:26.17 | maki_ | http://www.linuxtechdaily.com/2007/12/10-things-i-hate-about-kde4-rc2/ lol |
| 21:26.43 | pedepy | im just wondering, since plasma controls everything from desktop to panel to icons, can one differenciate 'widgets' from these other elements of the desktop rendered by plasma ? |
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| 21:28.21 | bakers | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:29.35 | pedepy | do other applications see the key ? |
| 21:30.04 | thiago | other applications like xev |
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| 21:32.21 | bakers | thiago: yes xev sees the key just fine, just not the shortcut assigner glaven |
| 21:32.47 | bakers | xev says: state 0x10, keycode 174 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, |
| 21:32.57 | bakers | keycode 174 = down, 176 = up |
| 21:34.43 | thiago | bakers: it sees the key but it doesn't know what it is |
| 21:34.46 | thiago | see that NoSymbol? |
| 21:34.53 | thiago | you have to select the proper keyboard model for your keyboard |
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| 21:35.24 | bakers | thiago: Yes exactly |
| 21:40.14 | bakers | thiago: It's some weird MS Internet keyboard... I tried a couple options, none seem to work. Is there a way to manually assign it |
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| 21:41.10 | thiago | try "microsoftpro" |
| 21:41.48 | bakers | thiago: in control center? |
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| 21:43.54 | hyper_ch | Blissex: I'm back but having a huge problem |
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| 21:44.37 | xenoterracide | I'm testing kde4 in a new account on my system anyone know I I can migrate my gpg keys (kgpg) to the new account and new version? |
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| 21:45.21 | thiago | bakers: yes, regional & accessibility, keyboard layout |
| 21:47.22 | hyper_ch | Blissex: well, rebooted as I tried before... then came up disk check (takes a while on the 750 GB drives) and then I just got the Ubuntu default background but no loging window or so... and the keyboard didn't do anyhting and nothing else was loaded... I thought maybe some glitch or something, tried again -> same result... ok, I logged then into recovery mode and installed KDE through kubuntu-desktop... restarted again, in KDM I saw the login |
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| 21:48.08 | bakers | thiago: It worked! |
| 21:49.08 | hdevalence | How do I transfer the PIM data from kmail, korganizer, akregator, and konqueror form one computer to another without copying all of .kde ? |
| 21:50.52 | hyper_ch | qupada: still here? |
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| 21:54.12 | qupada | hyper_ch: ya |
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| 21:56.09 | thiago | hdevalence: you should have used IMAP or LDAP to store that data in the first place |
| 21:56.33 | hyper_ch | qupada: did you read what I've written above? it's really strange and I'm at a loss |
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| 21:57.28 | hdevalence | thiago: but I didn't. |
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| 21:58.17 | qupada | hyper_ch: i'm getting the feeling i missed some background to your issue. have you just done a major system update? |
| 21:58.27 | hdevalence | thiago: also, I don't think that's practical for a one-user system |
| 21:58.43 | hyper_ch | qupada: nope |
| 21:58.59 | hyper_ch | qupada: 4 days ago there were the last updates |
| 21:59.13 | hyper_ch | qupada: that's also when I rebooted the last time |
| 21:59.52 | hyper_ch | qupada: I think it's strange that the keyboard fails at the login manager... in the recovery mode it works fine |
| 22:01.00 | hyper_ch | qupada: how do I run the xsever in a different "terminal" so that I can check whats happening in the syslog? |
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| 22:01.54 | bakers | hyper_ch: alt+f1 ? |
| 22:02.46 | qupada | hyper_ch: well my syslog daemon seems to write to vt11, your mileage may vary. dropping to a shell and 'tail -f /var/log/messages' would have the same effect in any case |
| 22:03.18 | hyper_ch | qupada not dropping to a shell first but starting in a shell first and then in another shell starting up x |
| 22:03.31 | hyper_ch | qupada otherwise the keyboard just blocks again |
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| 22:03.50 | hyper_ch | qupada. is there a way to do that? |
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| 22:04.24 | qupada | log in as you and run 'startx', should do it |
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| 22:04.56 | hyper_ch | qupada: when I login into shell (as root) - how do I sort of start a second terminal to run starx in it? |
| 22:05.04 | hyper_ch | qupada: is that possible? |
| 22:06.28 | hyper_ch | or does alt+f1 only work in x? |
| 22:06.34 | qupada | you should have 6 available tty's on most systems |
| 22:06.44 | hyper_ch | ok, I'll try :) |
| 22:06.53 | qupada | contol-alt-f[1-6] should all work |
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| 22:12.29 | hyper_ch | qupada: well, opening another terminal didn't work |
| 22:12.39 | hyper_ch | qupada: right now I'm logged in as root - that works strangley |
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| 22:22.05 | specofdust | how do I get rid of the popup that opens everytime I type in konsole telling me "Konsole - Activity in session 'Shell'" ? |
| 22:22.46 | specofdust | nvm, gotit :) |
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| 22:27.06 | hyper_ch | qupada: well, I don't know whats wrong or how to fix it |
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| 22:27.46 | danieldg | is there some way to prevent the fdatasync() on .kde/share/apps/konqueror/konq_history? It unneccesarily spins up the hard drive on my laptop |
| 22:28.27 | danieldg | I've been moving .kde to /dev/shm to prevent this, which is obviously not a good solution |
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| 22:37.09 | danieldg | ah, found a better hack with an LD_PRELOAD library. Apparently this is a known bug. |
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| 22:50.14 | kury | Anyone here know if its possible to setup knetwork-manager to use a static IP configuration? I don't see the option anywhere... |
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| 22:52.03 | pinotree | NetworkManagerD (the daemon that does all the work, used by knetworkmanager) does not allow that until the version 0.6.x (including) |
| 22:52.15 | pinotree | the 0.7 version should allow that, afaik |
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| 22:56.33 | kury | I have v0.6.5.. so it should or shouldn't have the manual config options? |
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| 23:00.56 | kmann | Any approximations to when will KDE4 be released? |
| 23:01.08 | pinotree | jan, 11th |
| 23:01.10 | Supaplex | sooner if you help ;) |
| 23:01.20 | kmann | I'm a C person :P |
| 23:01.20 | pvandewyngaerde | 2009 |
| 23:01.25 | kmann | 2009? |
| 23:01.29 | Tm_T | doesn't matter IIRC |
| 23:01.30 | kmann | I though 08 |
| 23:01.30 | amro | kmann++ |
| 23:01.33 | amro | there you go |
| 23:02.15 | kmann | mastering C++ is my new year resolve :D |
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| 23:09.56 | kmann | pvandewyngaerde: it's 2008 you evil ass :X !! |
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| 23:15.24 | pinotree | hyper_ch: a) don't irc as root, it's not safe |
| 23:15.47 | pinotree | hyper_ch: b) noone can help, if you don't ask; "don't ask to ask, just ask" |
| 23:16.07 | hyper_ch | pinotree: well, the problem is I can't run as anything else than root |
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| 23:16.19 | hyper_ch | pinotree: and I have explained before, what the problem is, but no reply :( |
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| 23:17.44 | hyper_ch | pinotree: after having had some issues with kontact / konqueror I rebooted my computer and I couldn't login anymore... not matter what I try... |
| 23:18.00 | pinotree | did you try creating a new user, and logging in with that? |
| 23:18.03 | AmyRose | 2009! |
| 23:18.17 | hyper_ch | pinotree: can't change user as login is set to auto-login my old user |
| 23:18.36 | pinotree | change the login preferences |
| 23:18.47 | hyper_ch | pinotree: can't because that's where the keyboard freezes |
| 23:19.16 | AmyRose | pinotree: KDE 4 will be released in 2009, right? =P |
| 23:19.23 | pinotree | AmyRose: no. |
| 23:19.44 | Caster | he meant the useable version :) |
| 23:20.07 | hyper_ch | pinotree: I can't type anything at kdm login... I can typ 2-3 letters and then there's a freeze |
| 23:20.46 | pinotree | hyper_ch: i said to *configure* the login manager |
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| 23:20.52 | hyper_ch | pinotree: how? |
| 23:21.10 | pinotree | kde control center → system administration → login manager |
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| 23:23.20 | hyper_ch | pinotree: thx |
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| 23:34.44 | sppt | hello |
| 23:35.23 | sppt | can you get the kde control center from kubuntu in gentoo? |
| 23:37.56 | dassd | in wich package is okular included ? |
| 23:37.59 | dassd | multimedia ? |
| 23:38.12 | pinotree | ?? |
| 23:38.18 | pinotree | kdegraphics, of course |
| 23:38.39 | dassd | ahhh |
| 23:39.06 | dassd | stood on the "schlauch" |
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| 23:43.35 | dassd | argh |
| 23:43.38 | dassd | i hate build errors |
| 23:43.47 | pinotree | like? |
| 23:44.02 | dassd | can someone not implement a system in svn, that it verifies the build |
| 23:44.18 | dassd | lets check the logs |
| 23:45.09 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
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| 23:45.22 | Ace2016 | any way to change the qt style from outside kde? |
| 23:45.27 | pinotree | qtconfig |
| 23:45.30 | PhilRod | dassd: you're thinking of dashboard. We have one of those (eg, hang around in #kde4-devel for a while and you'll see dashbot) |
| 23:45.45 | dassd | PhilRod: i know |
| 23:45.49 | Ace2016 | pinotree: is that a gui app? i want a gui app to show off my style for a screenshot for kde-look |
| 23:45.49 | dassd | PhilRod: thx |
| 23:45.59 | pinotree | Ace2016: just try that.... |
| 23:46.12 | Ace2016 | oh i probably didn't have it installed |
| 23:46.30 | pinotree | dassd: http://developer.kde.org/~dirk/dashboard/ |
| 23:46.41 | pinotree | dassd: and btw, if you tell us the error, we could help you |
| 23:47.20 | dassd | hm it builds on dashboard |
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| 23:48.08 | dassd | http://rafb.net/p/3agbhc82.html |
| 23:48.13 | dassd | thats the build errors :-( |
| 23:48.42 | pinotree | rm CMakeCache.txt, and rerun cmake |
| 23:48.51 | dassd | class Poppler::Page' has no member named 'splashRenderToPixmap' |
| 23:48.52 | pinotree | i know what you did |
| 23:48.53 | dassd | thisone |
| 23:48.56 | dassd | kk |
| 23:49.15 | pinotree | you run cmake the first time, saw that poppler was missing or an old version |
| 23:49.20 | dassd | i use gentoo , it always makes a clean build |
| 23:49.22 | pinotree | then installed it and cmake again |
| 23:50.30 | dassd | -- Found Poppler-Qt4: -lpoppler-qt4 -lpoppler, 0.6.x? no |
| 23:50.34 | dassd | that the configure line |
| 23:50.45 | pinotree | it can be ok |
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| 23:50.56 | dassd | i dont have the 0.6 poppler |
| 23:51.03 | pinotree | ok |
| 23:51.18 | Ace2016 | aren't popplers the things on futurama, is that where the name comes from? |
| 23:51.25 | pinotree | yes |
| 23:51.31 | dassd | hehhe |
| 23:51.34 | Ace2016 | thought so |
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| 23:52.18 | mifritscher | hi |
| 23:53.06 | mifritscher | are the kde-io-slaves something like addition protokolls like svn://, or more like shellexstension like e.g. tortoisesvn for explorer? |
| 23:53.25 | dassd | second |
| 23:53.32 | mifritscher | ah :-) |
| 23:53.48 | mifritscher | are they working for e.g. krusader, too? |
| 23:53.54 | dassd | but implemented as URI for whole kde |
| 23:54.01 | dassd | yes should |
| 23:54.45 | mifritscher | jppie :-) |
| 23:54.53 | dassd | hm? |
| 23:55.34 | mifritscher | I have all important tools then ;) |
| 23:55.52 | mifritscher | under windows I used to use totalcmd+tortoisesvn+notepad++ |
| 23:56.14 | dassd | you can split the view in konqueror too |
| 23:56.15 | mifritscher | under linux I can use kruase+ksvnio-slaves+the good internal editor ;) |
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| 23:56.50 | dassd | krusader is only a splitted filemanager is it ? |
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| 23:57.07 | dassd | you can split konqueror like you want |
| 23:57.33 | mifritscher | hmm Igive it a try, thanks ;) |
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| 23:57.51 | Jucato | it's not simply a "split" file manager |
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| 23:58.09 | Jucato | er.. not "simply" a split file manager |
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| 23:58.48 | dassd | if its simple or not , is in the eye of the beholder |
| 23:59.52 | Jucato | I mean it's a twin/dual-panel file manager, so the workflow is a bit more different compared to just splitting konqueror in half |
