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| 00:30.38 | spooge | rc1 useable? |
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| 00:32.34 | tapas | spooge: try it ;) |
| 00:32.40 | spooge | its 3.96? |
| 00:32.42 | spooge | right |
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| 00:34.20 | Solifugus | where can i find some good screenshots of kde 4? |
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| 00:38.22 | Anoninon | Hi, I'm having a very strange (and new) issue in KDE only (I also use gnome and xfce). I'm getting a tone loop (low tone) , every 3 seconds or so (last about 1 sec) |
| 00:41.04 | Anoninon | nevermind - it's my wifi. how lame. |
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| 00:42.54 | deitarion | Any idea why Yakuake might only obey the setting for using a sound instead of PC Speaker beep when it's not tied to Konsole's settings? |
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| 00:55.03 | Kde4 | hi |
| 00:55.23 | Kde4 | i am using ubuntu and installed kde4 beta4 but cant start it from gdm |
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| 01:31.15 | BlackBsd | hi guys.. when using kde with dbus/hal when i choose saftely remove a device, my thumb drive, i get messages popping up "The device was successfully unmounted, but could not be ejected" is there any way to fix this? |
| 01:32.07 | BlackBsd | i thought i could add myself to plugdev group, but that didnt seem to work |
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| 01:34.38 | crazy_bus | I'm trying to backup a dvd with k9copy. But while it is set to 4400mb, k3b tells me the created file is 4.5gb's and excedes the capacity of a dvd by 101.9mb's. Why is this> |
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| 01:36.56 | BlackBsd | maybe your dvd your tring to rip is a dual layer?? |
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| 01:37.27 | Lanken | what program does one use to rip audio cds in kde? |
| 01:37.29 | crazy_bus | but k9copy has always compressed it down to a single layer before |
| 01:37.52 | crazy_bus | Lanken: I used to use a specific program but know I just use k3b |
| 01:37.52 | deitarion | Lanken: I like to use KAudioCreator |
| 01:38.02 | Lanken | oh, never mind...it will very likely not work through my http proxy. :\ |
| 01:38.27 | deitarion | Lanken: What do HTTP proxies have to do with CD ripping? |
| 01:38.30 | Lanken | crazy_bus: for ripping, not burning? |
| 01:38.38 | Lanken | deitarion: you need to get the metadata off the net |
| 01:38.58 | Lanken | unless you want to enter it manually, which would be so 1995 |
| 01:39.46 | Lanken | I could probably get it to work with a SOCKS wrapper. |
| 01:40.08 | Lanken | but I've never resorted to using wrappers before. |
| 01:40.39 | deitarion | I don't use SOCKS, but if I remember correctly, all sane KDE apps obey the SOCKS proxy settings in KControl |
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| 01:42.32 | crazy_bus | Lanken: k3b can rip to ogg/flac etc |
| 01:43.10 | deitarion | crazy_bus: What does that have to do with his question? (I'm curious how your mind works) |
| 01:43.13 | Lanken | crazy_bus: yep, neat. |
| 01:43.34 | crazy_bus | [12:38] <Lanken> crazy_bus: for ripping, not burning? |
| 01:43.41 | deitarion | Ahh. |
| 01:43.44 | Lanken | crazy_bus: it still can't get through my HTTP proxy. KDE utterly fails if you're behind an http proxy. :( |
| 01:44.13 | deitarion | Lanken: Oh, and if you'd like to rip to Vorbis and FLAC (with proper metadata setting on both copies) in a single run, I can provide you with a script which tricks KAudioCreator into doing it. |
| 01:44.51 | Lanken | deitarion: thanks anyway :) |
| 01:45.03 | deitarion | Lanken: Report it as a bug. I suspect most programmers aren't behind proxies. (I know I'm not) |
| 01:45.18 | BlackBsd | KAudioCreator is what i find to work well. |
| 01:45.22 | Lanken | deitarion: it's not a bug, it'd be a wishlist |
| 01:45.27 | Lanken | (err, a wish) |
| 01:45.45 | Lanken | Kcontrol just doesn't offer you the option of configuring things to use http proxies. |
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| 01:46.11 | deitarion | Lanken: It's a bug. KControl --> Internet & Network --> Proxy |
| 01:46.16 | Lanken | ok never mind, it does, yeah. |
| 01:46.24 | Lanken | I wonder why I had the impression that it didn't. |
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| 01:47.17 | Lanken | deitarion: the "Authorization" panel in the Proxy screen is kind of braindead though. |
| 01:47.38 | Lanken | the option to provide authentication is greyed out without any explanation. |
| 01:48.18 | deitarion | Lanken: Report it. The only time I ever use proxies is when I want to extend Konqueror's functionality without learning C++ or Firefox without fighting with their braindead JS-in-a-native-app design. |
| 01:48.50 | deitarion | Of course, my main complaint about Firefox last time I tried was their lack of API docs. |
| 01:48.52 | Lanken | deitarion: yeah, I should report it. |
| 01:48.56 | Lanken | I'm not sure what I'd write though. |
| 01:49.04 | Lanken | "HTTP proxy functionality is absent." |
| 01:49.27 | Lanken | konqueror can get through the http proxy, but no other network-aware kde programs can |
| 01:49.30 | Lanken | I think that's the situation. |
| 01:49.33 | deitarion | HTTP proxy functionality either absent or confusingly un-intuitive, perhaps. |
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| 03:05.50 | crazy_bus | I set k9copy to 4300mb and it's still making files too big for a dvd5 |
| 03:06.00 | Roey | hey all, congrats on KDE4 RC1! |
| 03:06.11 | Roey | Here's to KDE not sucking! |
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| 03:06.54 | DaSkreech | KDE rocks! |
| 03:07.26 | Roey | ha, hahahahaha |
| 03:07.34 | Roey | <Roey> hey all, congrats on KDE4 RC1! |
| 03:07.34 | Roey | <Roey> Here's to KDE not sucking! |
| 03:07.34 | Roey | --> DaSkreech (n=chatzill@72.252.28.104) has joined #kde |
| 03:07.36 | Roey | heh |
| 03:07.48 | DaSkreech | Damn |
| 03:07.54 | Roey | within, like, one minute of each other :) |
| 03:08.01 | DaSkreech | It was so a toos up between KDE sucks and KDE rocks too :) |
| 03:08.05 | DaSkreech | toss |
| 03:08.08 | Roey | hehehe |
| 03:09.21 | DaSkreech | Sucks would have been so much funnier and more likelr to get me kickbanned :) |
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| 03:11.23 | DaSkreech | Plasmoids work nicely now! |
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| 03:15.30 | Roey | agh |
| 03:15.31 | kakalto | darn you all and your RC1 testing |
| 03:15.32 | Roey | *ah |
| 03:15.45 | Roey | I haven't tried it since I don't have an nvidia graphics card newer than my gforce4 ti4200. |
| 03:15.46 | Roey | :P |
| 03:16.08 | kakalto | why should that make a difference? |
| 03:16.48 | Roey | kakalto: because it's a real bitch getting these drivers to work on Kubuntu. |
| 03:16.54 | DaSkreech | kakalto: there are live Cds just pull one |
| 03:16.55 | Roey | I *can't* get them working on Kubuntu. |
| 03:17.03 | Roey | (the NVidia drivers) |
| 03:17.10 | kakalto | Roey: really? I thought you just go with the nvidia-drivers-legacy or something |
| 03:17.21 | kakalto | and voila |
| 03:17.28 | Roey | NOPE! |
| 03:17.34 | Roey | you can't just apt-get install them. |
| 03:17.40 | Roey | I tried. Didn't work. |
| 03:17.40 | kakalto | atleast, I hope so. I was planning on sticking kubuntu on my old compy with a ti4200 =/ |
| 03:17.50 | kakalto | =o |
| 03:17.53 | Roey | please tell me if you have any luck |
| 03:17.54 | kakalto | that's insanity. |
| 03:18.12 | kakalto | I probably won't check it out for a few days yet, I have an exam in two days time, not gonna do it before then |
| 03:18.22 | Roey | well, letting their old card drivers go obselete is nvidia's sneaky way of making us pay more for a newer graphics card |
| 03:18.49 | kakalto | nvidia supports many drivers. Sounds like more of a kubuntu problem. |
| 03:19.03 | Roey | I don't know anymore |
| 03:19.06 | Roey | I'm just upset ;) |
| 03:19.16 | kakalto | less than a year ago, I had... debian, I believe. Set up with my ti4200, no problems whatsoever. |
| 03:19.36 | Roey | with packages?? |
| 03:19.42 | Roey | did yo umake your own packages at all? |
| 03:19.42 | kakalto | yeah. |
| 03:19.44 | kakalto | no. |
| 03:19.48 | Roey | oh. ok. |
| 03:19.59 | Roey | Interesting... let's exchange notes sometime |
| 03:20.02 | kakalto | but then, that's debian, it's known to be fairly behind the times, but hecka stable ;) |
| 03:20.16 | DaSkreech | Go debian you old goat! |
| 03:20.23 | Roey | damned glacial, this Debian :P |
| 03:20.29 | Roey | that's why I gave up and moved to Kubuntu. |
| 03:20.33 | Roey | Where my tablet at least works. |
| 03:20.39 | Roey | without me having to scratch my head and compile the kernel. |
| 03:21.01 | smileaf | compiling kernels is easy =p |
| 03:21.16 | Roey | ;) |
| 03:21.18 | kakalto | smileaf: it is, it is :) |
| 03:22.18 | kakalto | okay, I'll admit that *just* compiling the kernel is a bit easier than compiling the kernel and making debian packages from it + nvidia drivers matching kernel. |
| 03:22.31 | Roey | well again |
| 03:22.35 | Roey | I had to jump through lotsa hoops |
| 03:22.40 | Roey | and had to use yaird |
| 03:22.41 | Roey | and all that |
| 03:23.10 | Roey | and eventually Ijust collapsed under the burden of the stinking hassle of administering a Debian SID box |
| 03:23.24 | kakalto | haha. |
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| 03:23.55 | Roey | and faced with the choice of staying with a glacial distribution or moving to a shiny new Debian-based one that with a guaranteed upgrade cycle, I switched to Kubuntu. |
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| 03:24.39 | kakalto | Roey: do you know what version of the nvidia drivers (96xx?) that the nvidia-legacy packages provide? |
| 03:25.34 | DaSkreech | Roey: you could just install testing |
| 03:25.39 | darkster | has anybody used this method of installing KDE4 on kubuntu and had it work http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php |
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| 03:29.03 | Roey | DaSkreech: you mean testing instead of Unstable? |
| 03:29.07 | Roey | nah I said screw it. |
| 03:29.17 | Roey | Just went to Kubuntu |
| 03:29.18 | Roey | and moreover, |
| 03:29.29 | DaSkreech | Kubuntu has a nicer irc chan ? |
| 03:29.41 | kakalto | XD |
| 03:29.49 | Roey | learned that an installation does not have to be a permanent, fixed thing--it can be fluid if you prepare for it |
| 03:29.54 | Roey | you can have debian one month |
| 03:29.57 | Roey | but kubuntu the next |
| 03:30.02 | Roey | and half a year later, suse, say. |
| 03:30.18 | DaSkreech | Then Windows |
| 03:30.27 | Roey | my line stops there :) |
| 03:30.35 | DaSkreech | Ha ha :) |
| 03:30.50 | DaSkreech | Hey you can install KDE4 on it I hear!! |
| 03:31.13 | kakalto | DaSkreech: you can hide, but as soon as you show again, you know you'll be shot |
| 03:31.14 | smileaf | windows only belongs in a little window.. aka virtual pc like. =p |
| 03:31.35 | DaSkreech | Speaking of that |
| 03:31.35 | Roey | see |
| 03:31.37 | Roey | I thoguth that too |
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| 03:31.38 | Roey | but... |
| 03:31.39 | DaSkreech | how does kvm work? |
| 03:31.46 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:31.50 | smileaf | kvm? |
| 03:31.54 | Roey | turns out ya can't share nvidia drivers within a vmware window. |
| 03:31.55 | Roey | sucks. |
| 03:32.00 | Roey | so you can't play games, say. |
| 03:32.06 | Roey | if windows is in a vmware. |
| 03:32.14 | smileaf | yah I have seen that. |
| 03:32.18 | smileaf | only I use VirtualBox. |
| 03:32.26 | Roey | can you use the nvidia drivers then? |
| 03:32.32 | smileaf | no |
| 03:32.38 | smileaf | no 3D :( |
| 03:33.08 | kakalto | Roey: for the record, nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source use the 9639 nvidia driver in gutsy, so there shouldn't be need for -legacy... |
| 03:33.22 | Roey | http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=16 |
| 03:33.29 | Roey | kakalto: ah |
| 03:33.42 | Roey | is that what I need for my ti4200? It sure doens't work here. |
| 03:34.16 | kakalto | Roey: both that driver and the -legacy should work, I checked up the 7184 and 9639 nvidia driver release READMEs |
| 03:34.30 | kakalto | note the "should" |
| 03:34.41 | DaSkreech | Kernel Virtualization Machine: KVM |
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| 03:35.45 | kakalto | Not to be mistaken for "Keyboard/Video/Mouse: K/V/M (switch)" |
| 03:36.58 | Roey | kakalto: ok, sometime this weekend I'll come back to you on this |
| 03:37.03 | Roey | because I'm trying to get my stuff working ;) |
| 03:37.05 | Roey | actually |
| 03:37.12 | Roey | I'm buying my friends 7xxx AGP card |
| 03:37.14 | kakalto | Roey: good luck then :) |
| 03:37.15 | Roey | this weekend. |
| 03:37.16 | Roey | I think |
| 03:37.18 | Roey | or enxt weekend |
| 03:37.34 | kakalto | that should solve your problems too. |
| 03:38.17 | Roey | I dunno anymore |
| 03:38.20 | Roey | oh man, this music |
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| 03:38.30 | Roey | listen to "Yael Naim" |
| 03:38.34 | Roey | she has this sweet voice |
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| 05:09.00 | enyawix | liferea like kde app? liferea is a feed viewer |
| 05:10.15 | enyawix | any one in? |
| 05:10.25 | enyawix | i know it is late |
| 05:10.28 | DaSkreech | akregator |
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| 05:16.20 | enyawix | wow thanks that is kust what i wanted |
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| 05:19.32 | DaSkreech | enyawix: are you a mouse person or keyboard? |
| 05:20.03 | enyawix | i like a mix |
| 05:20.16 | enyawix | love keyboard short cuts |
| 05:20.47 | DaSkreech | ok |
| 05:21.07 | DaSkreech | left/Right move through a list of articles |
| 05:21.16 | DaSkreech | Ctrl+Up/Down move through feeds |
| 05:21.28 | DaSkreech | up/down scroll the actual article text |
| 05:21.41 | DaSkreech | makes it real fast to go through feeds |
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| 05:29.48 | icculus | Hey, I'm writing a piece of software that might have to spawn a terminal...what's the appropriate KDE terminal application? Is it 'kvt'? 'konsole'? Something else? |
| 05:30.19 | mark_alec | konsole |
| 05:30.28 | icculus | mark_alec: thanks |
| 05:32.50 | enyawix | icculus why call konsole? than it would not run on other desktops? |
| 05:33.10 | icculus | enyawix: it'll go something like this: |
| 05:33.45 | icculus | if we see the gnome-session environment variable, spawn gnome-terminal, if we see KDE running, spawn konsole, otherwise, spawn xterm and hope for the best. |
| 05:34.02 | enyawix | cool |
| 05:35.01 | enyawix | Xfce4 rocks |
| 05:35.06 | DaSkreech | icculus: konsole. You can call the Kpart |
| 05:35.24 | enyawix | my crap laptop is too slow for kde :( |
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| 05:35.42 | icculus | DaSkreech: unfortunately, this has to avoid direct dependencies on any system libraries beyond glibc...so it's a little hacky. |
| 05:36.00 | DaSkreech | icculus: :-) |
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| 05:37.10 | enyawix | is it hard to add gui support? |
| 05:37.18 | Arafangion | Hey, what do I need to open pdf files? |
| 05:37.23 | Arafangion | (From within konq) |
| 05:37.57 | enyawix | i do loads of automotive math with scripts |
| 05:38.35 | Arafangion | enyawix: What is your question? |
| 05:38.37 | DaSkreech | Arafangion: kpdf in KDE3 okular in KDE4 |
| 05:38.38 | icculus | enyawix: well, that's complicated. It'll have plugins for Qt/GTK/etc ... THOSE can reference things like KParts, etc, and just fail gracefully if KDE isn't installed (it'll fail to load the plugin and move to the next one). |
| 05:38.55 | Arafangion | DaSkreech: okular, thanks. :) |
| 05:38.58 | icculus | enyawix: But when none of the plugins work, you don't want to write to stdout without there being a terminal there to see it. :) |
| 05:39.17 | icculus | The dangers of binary-only software. :) |
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| 05:41.58 | enyawix | just a fill in the blank calculator type of app |
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| 05:45.40 | hagabaka | i don't get the purpose of the "Hide" menu item in the mixer applet |
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| 05:46.40 | hagabaka | once you hide the last channel, there seems to be no way to get it back, except removing the applet and adding it again, and then you have to select the list of channels to show again |
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| 05:59.28 | darkhand | How do I turn woggle and expo on? |
| 05:59.36 | darkhand | I think I am doing something wrong. |
| 05:59.45 | darkhand | This is a fresh install with kde3.5 |
| 05:59.55 | mark_alec | darkhand: woggle? |
| 05:59.59 | darkhand | wobble* |
| 06:00.20 | mark_alec | what distro? |
| 06:00.27 | darkhand | x86 3.4f |
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| 06:00.53 | mark_alec | kde doesn't have any wobble/expose features |
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| 06:08.17 | Arafangion | Why won't konq allow me to right-click on a file and let me delete it? |
| 06:08.21 | Arafangion | I'm using kde 4. |
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| 06:11.35 | Arafangion | Why is it so quiet at the moment? |
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| 06:13.05 | rane | check out timezones, it will be a hint why |
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| 06:17.37 | blacktower | hi all |
| 06:18.02 | blacktower | now i have a seemingly weird and awkward question abt xampp |
| 06:18.12 | blacktower | anyone ready to help? |
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| 06:19.11 | blacktower | ?? |
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| 06:21.50 | rane | just ask |
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| 06:25.00 | blacktower | ok i have installed xampp and it throws up its default home page..but i have 2 web-sites that i want to host |
| 06:25.21 | blacktower | one is a campus website which should come first and then moodle an e-learning platform |
| 06:25.42 | blacktower | i have one public ip at the moment thats why i want it to be like this |
| 06:25.44 | Arafangion | rane: Surely not everybody is in the USA. |
| 06:25.52 | Arafangion | rane: Therefore timezone isn't the only answer. |
| 06:26.24 | blacktower | wen i type the ip 212.x.x.x by default i want it to go to the campus website and to go to the moodle just append a / and type moodle |
| 06:26.54 | rane | Arafangion: it's 7 am in Europe, people are sleeping or preparing for work/school :-) |
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| 06:27.43 | blacktower | now with xampp all i get is the default page n i really have to disable it or better yet change it |
| 06:27.49 | Arafangion | rane: It's afternoon in Australia, though. |
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| 06:28.31 | blacktower | any help...please? |
| 06:29.55 | alanic | blacktower: you need help about apache configurations I believe, not kde |
| 06:30.29 | blacktower | ok so i should jus leave and look for an apache channel right? |
| 06:31.01 | alanic | blacktower: there is an apache channel, yes I'm sure they will be more helpful |
| 06:31.41 | blacktower | so much for the linux open spirit and help community... |
| 06:31.46 | blacktower | thanks anyway! |
| 06:31.59 | alanic | lol don't give up |
| 06:32.43 | blacktower | am not abt to |
| 06:35.35 | Q-collective | blacktower: #apache |
| 06:35.39 | Q-collective | there you go |
| 06:35.40 | Q-collective | :) |
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| 08:07.49 | OpenSourced | hi there ,congrats to all kde4 for team,i am looking forward to try kde4 rc1 |
| 08:08.16 | annma | :) |
| 08:08.27 | ICQnumber | so try it as live cd |
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| 08:10.03 | OpenSourced | where can i get it? |
| 08:10.17 | OpenSourced | hi anne marie |
| 08:11.33 | OpenSourced | ICQnumber where can get the KDE4 rc1 liveCD? |
| 08:11.50 | ICQnumber | told u in suse cannel |
| 08:11.54 | annma | hi OpenSourced |
| 08:12.47 | OpenSourced | r u linux mint user too? annma |
| 08:13.07 | OpenSourced | ok thx ICQnumber |
| 08:13.27 | OpenSourced | wow ,annma that's is nice |
| 08:13.51 | OpenSourced | i wish i could to meet a girl with a brain like u |
| 08:14.11 | annma | I am a mother of 5 kids |
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| 08:14.46 | Armand|-_- | and, about 400,000 v.Kids. :P |
| 08:14.52 | annma | look at planetkde, there's my pic |
| 08:14.52 | OpenSourced | a girl is a nice way to call you |
| 08:15.00 | OpenSourced | i don't know our age |
| 08:15.02 | annma | Armand|-_-: yes! |
| 08:15.16 | annma | OpenSourced: just to cut all false assumptions |
| 08:15.29 | Armand|-_- | ^_^ |
| 08:15.30 | OpenSourced | you have 5 kids and still have time to develop some thing on linux, |
| 08:16.01 | OpenSourced | I just have a child and it takes all my time |
| 08:16.38 | OpenSourced | i barely have time to learn a bit more about linux |
| 08:17.08 | Arafangion | OpenSourced: I don't have kids, but i have had pets before. Apparently if you have two, they can keep each other company. ;) |
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| 08:17.34 | Armand|-_- | Arafangion: I have 2 dogs, and yes.. they do keep each other company. :) |
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| 08:18.03 | OpenSourced | well, i can't manage with 2 dogs and child. |
| 08:18.16 | OpenSourced | so i just have one dog |
| 08:18.27 | Arafangion | OpenSourced: I wasn't talking about dogs. ;) |
| 08:19.22 | Armand|-_- | "pets" |
| 08:20.00 | OpenSourced | pets= also including dogs |
| 08:20.08 | OpenSourced | in my case |
| 08:20.24 | Arafangion | OpenSourced: You are completely missing the metaphorical implication. |
| 08:21.01 | OpenSourced | ok,just leave it |
| 08:21.13 | OpenSourced | arafangion |
| 08:21.25 | Arafangion | OpenSourced: The correct response would've been "haha". ;) |
| 08:22.23 | amro | Arafangion: you might end up with more than two :P |
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| 08:23.27 | OpenSourced | annma i couldn't find your photo |
| 08:23.34 | annma | no? |
| 08:23.39 | annma | on planetkde |
| 08:23.43 | annma | there are some posters |
| 08:23.57 | annma | for foss.in and I am on the first one |
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| 08:26.11 | OpenSourced | ok |
| 08:27.53 | OpenSourced | try my site too http://flycharlles.deviantart.com/ |
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| 08:38.01 | OpenSourced | ellen reitmayr is very nice looking lady |
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| 08:46.11 | Logi | I'm getting "/usr/lib/kde4/bin/dolphin: error while loading shared libraries: libkdeprint.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" under the kde release candidate on kubuntu 07.10. Does that ring a bell? |
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| 08:47.19 | annma | Logi: #kubuntu |
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| 08:53.50 | Logi | annma: aye, thanks |
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| 09:12.30 | UniDune | hi |
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| 09:53.59 | badshah | HI! Is this RC1 for KDE4 feature complete? |
| 09:55.06 | BB83 | Hi all ! I was wondering how to apt-get remove superkaramba since it will take kde in the dependencies too (kubuntu) |
| 09:55.10 | BB83 | ? |
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| 09:55.48 | PhilRod | BB83: sounds like you're thinking of dependencies the wrong way round, but it would be best to ask in #kubuntu |
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| 09:55.51 | Jucato | BB83: please ask in #kubuntu (and no, it won't take kde out with it, only the "kde" metapakage) |
| 09:56.04 | Jucato | hi PhilRod! saw your picture? |
| 09:56.14 | Jucato | (forgot to tell annma too :P) |
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| 09:56.23 | PhilRod | oh no, let me go look for it (I'd forgotten about that) |
| 09:56.40 | Jucato | planetkde, pradeepto's lateast post :) |
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| 09:57.57 | PhilRod | heh, that looks really good :-) |
| 09:58.01 | Optyk | Hi there. |
| 09:58.30 | Optyk | Its possible to use krdc on gnome? |
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| 09:58.58 | PhilRod | should be |
| 09:59.09 | BB83 | PhilRod, Jucato : ok thks |
| 09:59.28 | Optyk | I cant find krdc in repo |
| 09:59.46 | Jucato | Optyk: ask in your distribution's channel if they have it available |
| 10:00.01 | Optyk | Okay. |
| 10:00.09 | Optyk | Have a nice day, cu. |
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| 10:00.16 | badshah | Please let me know if the KDE4 RC1 is feature complete |
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| 10:01.05 | PhilRod | badshah: IIRC, there's a feature freeze, so any features that will be in 4.0.0 are in the RC. But of course, plenty more features will be in later kde 4 versions |
| 10:01.26 | PhilRod | Jucato: means it has every possible feature anyone could ever want :-) |
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| 10:01.34 | Jucato | heh :) |
| 10:01.42 | Jucato | then definitely not :P |
| 10:01.44 | badshah | PhilRod: But then is there no way to right click on the panel? |
| 10:01.58 | Jucato | "feature complete for 4.0" sounds more like it :) |
| 10:02.08 | Jucato | (but then you'll ask what's the goal for 4.0 and so on :P) |
| 10:02.24 | PhilRod | badshah: I have no idea; haven't had time to try it. If you're thinking of particular bugs/features, the best place to ask would be #kde4-devel |
| 10:02.40 | PhilRod | I'm not sure what the status of the plasma desktop stuff is (you could even ask in #plasma) |
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| 10:03.07 | badshah | PhilRod: Thanks |
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| 10:10.50 | BB83 | I have another question : I use compiz and am used to have the taskbar to display only tasks of current viewport. I don't have this option anymore... Anyone knows which package must be changed, or a good alternative taskbar ? |
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| 10:15.34 | BB83 | Anyone knows which package changes the panel options ? |
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| 10:20.04 | PhilRod | kcontrol -> desktop -> panel |
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| 10:27.35 | Sho_ | moin Jucato |
| 10:33.41 | Sput | hi there... I am trying KDE4 from svn every once in a while, and some thing has always bothered me: whenever I log into KDE4, it loads both plasma and kdesktop3+kicker on top of that... |
| 10:33.52 | Sput | tried from a fresh home directory, didn't help |
| 10:34.33 | Sput | any way to disable kdesktop in KDE4 (on a system with both versions installed)? |
| 10:36.59 | Sput | hm ok, also techbase and svn are down, but you probably know that already :) |
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| 11:34.53 | tazz | hi AnMaster |
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| 11:35.15 | tazz | hi annma |
| 11:35.55 | BB83 | Does someone knows which package is the kde panel setup screen ? |
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| 11:36.06 | annma | hi! |
| 11:36.16 | annma | kdebase |
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| 11:38.18 | chris___1 | hello, are there release | qa people in this channel? |
| 11:38.25 | BB83 | But I remember I installed a package with dpkg that changed the options available. Now I can't have two panels, and I don't have the option "Taskbar display tasks of current desktop only" |
| 11:39.06 | annma | chris___1: just ask your question |
| 11:39.29 | annma | BB83: ask in your distro channel for specific package question |
| 11:39.45 | annma | KDE releases kdebase as tarball, your distro might cut it |
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| 11:40.10 | BB83 | annma, thnks |
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| 11:43.39 | chris___1 | i'd just like to say: do more live isos from kde-devel builds. during the time of release candidates maybe daily, other then that just ones a week. i know that i am asking for quite something. however in my observation users are much more likely to test kde devel stuff, if it is precompiled. reason: compilation is not difficult, but takes a long time. users might have DSL and 30 min for downloading, but not time and time with the computer fan at |
| 11:45.03 | annma | live ISOS are not from KDE |
| 11:45.09 | annma | they are from distros people |
| 11:45.18 | annma | KDE does the code and releases tarballs |
| 11:45.28 | annma | that's it |
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| 11:46.53 | chris___1 | annma: ok, so could kde (we) cooperate better with distros or setup a kde live isos build? what would be the limits? only bandwith, which i can imagine very well, or also other things? |
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| 11:47.24 | SSJ_GZ | chris__1: I'm providing Qemu images (not liveCDs) almost daily - there'll hopefully be a Dot announcement on it soon. |
| 11:47.30 | annma | KDE cooperates with builders |
| 11:47.47 | annma | but it's up to builders to make those LiveCDs |
| 11:47.52 | annma | not up to KDE |
| 11:48.01 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: wow, thats it, where? |
| 11:48.04 | annma | often though those builders are KDEers |
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| 11:48.21 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: http://etotheipiplusone.com/kde4daily/docs/kde4daily.html |
| 11:48.28 | annma | it's not the task of KDE to deliver liveCDs |
| 11:48.40 | annma | but I think KDE cooperates the best it can |
| 11:48.50 | annma | aren't we SSJ_GZ? |
| 11:49.06 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: The only person to test it so far is me, and currently the hosting KDE provided me with is down, so be prepared for rough edges ;) |
| 11:49.13 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Sure are :) |
| 11:51.21 | chris___1 | annma: ok, i understand your view. but it also results in less qa feedback. just think of the mozilla nightly snapshots. kde is much bigger, but comparing the costs of hosting daily isos to the time that devels need to check if the bug was not fixed "just yesterday" would point into the liveiso direction |
| 11:51.44 | annma | and what would be your role in your proposition? |
| 11:53.58 | chris___1 | annma: i am just a naive user, who is asking here rather then filing a report in the bugdb, which might get "lost" |
| 11:54.09 | chris___1 | annma: but |
| 11:54.11 | annma | filling a report? |
| 11:54.18 | annma | now |
| 11:54.29 | chris___1 | annma: i'll use SSJ_GZ stuff and report to him |
| 11:54.34 | annma | yes |
| 11:54.42 | annma | you see SSJ_GZ is just a user like you |
| 11:54.54 | annma | except when he has an idea he does it |
| 11:54.57 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: That would be great, thanks. I'm having a lot of difficulty getting testers for it :/ |
| 11:55.10 | annma | SSJ_ blog baout itGZ: you should |
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| 11:55.25 | annma | SSJ_GZ: you should blog about it |
| 11:55.47 | SSJ_GZ | annma: I don't actually have a blog, but I'm working on a Dot article. I really need a proper Promo person to write it for me, though :/ |
| 11:56.12 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Current draft is here: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-promo&m=119559920311143&w=2 |
| 11:56.15 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: dont worry, i will submit everything i find. i think in the end (developer time, blabla) there will really be a profit to the whole kde project. |
| 11:56.28 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: Thanks, I hope so :) |
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| 11:57.56 | murosai | any bugs already in rc1? :) |
| 11:58.11 | annma | SSJ_GZ: seems good enough |
| 11:58.19 | annma | send it to dot admins |
| 11:58.29 | annma | they'll correct it if needed and publish it |
| 11:58.36 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Pretty long, though :/ |
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| 11:58.47 | annma | well it needs explanations |
| 11:59.57 | SSJ_GZ | annma: Ok, I'll upload & test out the latest KDE4Daily update, and then see about sending it on to them :) |
| 12:00.07 | annma | :)) |
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| 12:04.13 | Jucato | annma!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:04.31 | Jucato | annma: did you see yourself in pradeepto's post? :) |
| 12:04.42 | annma | lol, yes |
| 12:04.47 | annma | was a bit of a shock |
| 12:05.02 | Jucato | heheh |
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| 12:14.35 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: ping, sorry, i get a "rejected by tracker" when getting the torrent. whats going wrong? |
| 12:14.51 | BB83 | Does someone have an idea ? I'm running gutsy with compiz, when I go into system params->desktop, X11 restarts, if I access this config window from a right click on a panel it works but display no options for a second panel even if I have two |
| 12:15.03 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: I have no idea, I'm afraid - I've not put any restrictions on :/ |
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| 12:15.16 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: What client are you using? MAybe try a different one ... ? |
| 12:15.49 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: whats even more strange the download continues, at least the transfer rate is about 0/00 |
| 12:16.00 | chris___1 | S/about/more then |
| 12:16.35 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: So the download is "kind of" working OK, or are you not able to download anything? |
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| 12:17.51 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: #1: started up, download stopped "tracker rejected" #2 restarted, "tracker rejected", download continues. its kind of working now, yes. i'll see whats happening next ;-) |
| 12:18.25 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: Hehe - good luck! Might be linuxtracker having temporary issues, or something :) |
| 12:19.13 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: hit me again, when i will return in the afternoon i will have to click away a hundreds windows :-) |
| 12:19.19 | basanta | can some one check this link and tell me what date it is showing ? http://www.nepalstock.com/today.html |
| 12:19.27 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: Doh! |
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| 12:31.08 | tuxick | k3b killed my kde |
| 12:31.24 | tuxick | "error: unable to create io-slave" after which entire kde hangs |
| 12:31.41 | tuxick | i really thought kde was threading ;p |
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| 12:32.58 | annma | get bt |
| 12:33.06 | annma | report to k3b bugs |
| 12:33.22 | annma | run k3b through gdb when you reproduce |
| 12:33.32 | annma | when it hangs get a bt |
| 12:33.49 | tuxick | a bit hard when i lose all interactivity |
| 12:34.01 | tuxick | althougth ctrl-alt-backspace works |
| 12:34.47 | tuxick | yesterday it was kmail hanging after failing to connect to imapd :/ |
| 12:35.05 | tuxick | oh well, later on i'll have a look |
| 12:35.24 | annma | hmm |
| 12:35.31 | annma | weird |
| 12:35.38 | annma | what distro? |
| 12:35.49 | tuxick | gentoo |
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| 12:36.43 | annma | I see |
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| 12:39.01 | tuxick | you can't blame dist for this kind of behaviour! |
| 12:39.20 | tuxick | maybe if i'd deliberately break the threads library or whatever |
| 12:39.50 | annma | hmmm |
| 12:40.12 | annma | can you reproduce the k3b bug then? |
| 12:40.32 | tuxick | i can't afford to now |
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| 12:40.37 | tuxick | trying to get some work done |
| 12:40.45 | tuxick | but it's easy enough |
| 12:41.05 | tuxick | start k3b, tools->burn iso and try to select an iso |
| 12:41.08 | tuxick | that's where it ends |
| 12:41.15 | annma | weird |
| 12:41.26 | annma | I burnt an iso yesterday |
| 12:41.27 | tuxick | it's a 64bit box with nvidia :) |
| 12:41.33 | annma | so? |
| 12:41.38 | tuxick | on my homebox k3b never screwed up this badly |
| 12:41.42 | whirm | hi all! |
| 12:41.59 | annma | anyway file under k3b bug but a "hang" or crash without any backtrace is useless |
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| 12:43.02 | speedy | hi there |
| 12:43.16 | speedy | i have a problem with setting up wine can anyone help me? |
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| 12:44.04 | SSJ_GZ | speedy: That's not really a KDE issue. What distro are you using? |
| 12:44.13 | crashev | whats wrong with konqueror why is it rendering animated gifs so slow ,is there any patch/workaround for this issue? |
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| 12:44.40 | annma | crashev: URL? |
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| 12:45.18 | speedy | fedora 8 |
| 12:45.53 | crashev | annma: http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/160/1421715.gif |
| 12:45.54 | SSJ_GZ | speedy: Try in #fedora :) |
| 12:46.06 | crashev | in firefox the speed is normal |
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| 12:46.39 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: Define "normal" - runs at a good speed here in 3.5.8 .. ? |
| 12:47.11 | annma | booh it looks bad |
| 12:47.26 | annma | what a bad anime |
| 12:47.48 | crashev | SSJ_GZ: hard to define normal :), lets say the speed is the same for windows+ie/firefox and linux+firefox, in konqueror its very slow,slower than in other two configs |
| 12:48.13 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: Hehe :) |
| 12:48.15 | annma | crashev: distro? |
| 12:48.16 | crashev | SSJ_GZ: i got 3.5.8-r1 and gentoo distro |
| 12:48.23 | crashev | latest gentoo distro |
| 12:48.30 | annma | did you build with gif support? |
| 12:48.42 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: I don't really know then - maybe open up in a GIF editor and see what framerate it's supposed to run at ... ? |
| 12:48.50 | colo_mobile | if he did not, the images would not be displayed at all |
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| 12:49.22 | crashev | annma: yes, If i didnt then I would probably dont see it at all |
| 12:50.06 | crashev | SSJ_GZ: u compated speeds in konqueror and firefox on Your box? what distro do You have? |
| 12:50.15 | crashev | s/compated/compared |
| 12:50.17 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: Not yet - hang on ... |
| 12:50.27 | SSJ_GZ | (Kubuntu 7.10) |
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| 12:51.04 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: Aha - I think I know what this is ... |
| 12:51.28 | SSJ_GZ | SSJ_GZ: If a GIF does not specify a framerate, then the browser chooses its own |
| 12:51.33 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: ^^^ |
| 12:51.46 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: Firefox makes it play as fast as it can |
| 12:51.57 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: IE assumes a frame rate of 10fps |
| 12:52.08 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: Maybe Konqueror does the same as IE. |
| 12:52.25 | SSJ_GZ | crashev: In this situation, there's no real "right" way to behave. |
| 12:52.58 | annma | crashev: did you try another gif? |
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| 12:53.21 | crashev | annma: not yet |
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| 12:53.54 | moldy | hi |
| 12:54.08 | moldy | is there any documentation anywhere on which devices are supported by kitchensync? |
| 12:54.12 | crashev | annma: and I did, its still slower in konqueror and sometimes the animation its not even smooth |
| 12:54.15 | crashev | try http://www.gifs.net/subcategory/190/0/20/Air_Conditioners |
| 12:54.51 | Sput | looks fine in my konq |
| 12:54.54 | crashev | maybe its gentoo bug... |
| 12:54.59 | Sput | I am using gentoo |
| 12:55.08 | speedy | hm |
| 12:55.13 | speedy | i have another question |
| 12:55.13 | crashev | Sput: did You compare firefox vs. konqueror ? |
| 12:55.58 | speedy | i wanted to install my graphiccard (nvidia) but when i start the installer it says that it cannot found the kernel devel ... i have installed the newest already |
| 12:56.14 | Sput | it's faster in firefox, but I wouldn't say it's too slow in konq |
| 12:56.20 | Sput | rather looks like being too fast in firefox, IMHO |
| 12:56.30 | SSJ_GZ | speedy: That's also not KDE-related :) Try #fedora |
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| 12:57.21 | crashev | Sput: faster,smoother in firefox for me |
| 12:57.29 | speedy | in #fedora i have to be invited or something |
| 12:57.54 | Sput | hm, it's definitely smooth in konq here, albeit slower than in firefox |
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| 12:59.55 | SSJ_GZ | speedy: Oh, that's lame :( I don't know, then, but I don't think you'll get any manswers here, I'm afraid :/ |
| 13:00.08 | SSJ_GZ | *many answers |
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| 13:01.14 | speedy | ehm |
| 13:01.32 | speedy | can you help me then with installing my graphiccard (nvidia) |
| 13:02.07 | speedy | ups |
| 13:02.17 | speedy | sorry |
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| 13:03.54 | ICQnumber | have u tried suse's kde4 rc1 live cd from yesterday, it does not seems to boot |
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| 13:04.49 | fedora_ | test |
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| 13:05.40 | patricio | wth? |
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| 13:22.46 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: ping |
| 13:22.57 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: pong |
| 13:24.08 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: the kde daily torrent doesnt work. my previous attempt broke. now trying with ktorrent. tracker status: invalid response. %0.61 complete. |
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| 13:24.51 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: Damn, that's awkward. There's nothing I can do about that, I don't think - sounds like a fault with linuxtracker :( |
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| 13:28.01 | Arelis | Hi all. I've recently installed the core of KDE and installed some applications for various tasks, but i might've missed some. What are some good applications for tasks i might be doing on the computer? |
| 13:31.11 | annma | Arelis: what tasks? |
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| 13:33.50 | apokryphos | Arelis: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/migrator-applications.html |
| 13:36.17 | Arelis | apokryphos: thanks :) |
| 13:36.29 | annma | hey apokryphos |
| 13:36.39 | apokryphos | hi annma |
| 13:36.40 | annma | apokryphos: I requested an edu room for FOSDEM |
| 13:36.51 | Arelis | How do i install the KDE 4 release candidate on my desktop? |
| 13:36.56 | Arelis | and is it safe? will it break things? |
| 13:37.04 | Arelis | can i use it as general desktop environment? |
| 13:37.04 | apokryphos | annma: cool |
| 13:37.12 | Arelis | it says "It's the first release thats suitable for general use" |
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| 13:37.16 | apokryphos | we're trying to get one of our Education guys to do a talk too... |
| 13:37.26 | annma | which room? |
| 13:37.36 | annma | maybe he could join my track if I get it |
| 13:37.39 | apokryphos | annma: openSUSE |
| 13:37.42 | Arelis | oh, and i'm using Ubuntu |
| 13:37.42 | apokryphos | yeah |
| 13:37.47 | annma | cool |
| 13:37.55 | apokryphos | Arelis: depends on whether they provide packages |
| 13:37.56 | Jucato | :P at apokryphos, <3 at annma |
| 13:38.01 | annma | :) |
| 13:38.04 | apokryphos | =) |
| 13:38.25 | Arelis | KDE 4 RC 1 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu 7.10. <-- yay! |
| 13:38.32 | Jucato | 1-finger typing sucks :( |
| 13:38.33 | Arelis | can i use it as general desktop environment? is it safe to install? |
| 13:38.48 | benJIman | It's completely broken here still. |
| 13:38.49 | apokryphos | we're trying to work out our budget. Tough when a lot of the people aren't in Europe ;) |
| 13:39.08 | apokryphos | Arelis: not really. |
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| 13:39.54 | rajkt | Hi I want a good source editor to browse throgh C code.. I want a view to get all the functions in a C file listed.. I get this with kscope but it does not give the project files organised in directories.. anybody else knows any other good editor? |
| 13:39.55 | annma | apokryphos: is it james? |
| 13:40.05 | apokryphos | probably will be, yes |
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| 13:40.16 | annma | ok, I contacted him for aKademy |
| 13:40.20 | annma | very cool |
| 13:40.23 | Arelis | apokryphos: i can't use it instead of kde 3? |
| 13:40.46 | apokryphos | Arelis: not really. Try it out, though; nothing stopping you :) |
| 13:40.55 | SSJ_GZ | Arelis: You can, but almost certainly shouldn't ;) |
| 13:41.42 | Jucato | rajkt: KDevelop? Kate w/ the Symbol Viewer plugin? |
| 13:42.01 | Arelis | apokryphos: and, if i try it out (install it), will it break anything> |
| 13:42.02 | Arelis | ? |
| 13:42.13 | apokryphos | it shouldn't, no |
| 13:42.18 | blq | is there a way to dock applications like pidgin to the border of the desktop like the kickerpanel? |
| 13:42.30 | apokryphos | it will be packaged in a way that the kde4 config files are in a different location |
| 13:43.10 | rajkt | Jucato: I tried KDevelop .. but it;s class view does not list C functions correctly.. Kate is ok.. but still I want a directory structure of the code visible inside the editor.. I want to view Linux kernel code.. |
| 13:43.12 | Jucato | Arelis: it won't (shouldn't) conflict w/ your KDE3 system |
| 13:43.50 | Arelis | Jucato: ok |
| 13:44.14 | DaSkreech | hi all |
| 13:44.22 | DaSkreech | Arelis: still awake? :) |
| 13:44.47 | DaSkreech | blq: you do that with Kopete no idea for pidgin |
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| 13:45.13 | Arelis | DaSkreech: yes |
| 13:45.54 | chris___1 | SSJ_GZ: i cant get this torrent working, sorry. you have any other download url? maybe univ url? |
| 13:45.54 | blq | DaSkreech: hm.. isn't it possible to dock any application to the border? (I really like pidgin) |
| 13:46.20 | DaSkreech | Well Pidgin is gtk so I have no idea how it will react |
| 13:47.15 | blq | DaSkreech: so I'm in the wrong place to ask for because it's gtk? |
| 13:48.08 | DaSkreech | no not specifically cause it's gtk. You could ask in #pidgin if there is a plugin that enables that though. Since it's really that specific appplication you want |
| 13:48.23 | SSJ_GZ | chris___1: Sorry, dude :/ |
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| 13:49.08 | DaSkreech | Though that's probably #pidgin-windows :) |
| 13:50.03 | blq | DaSkreech: I was in hope that there is a way to place it in a kicker bar or something like that - there is a "dock application bar" but I read that's for something else .. |
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| 14:10.05 | trixon | Hi, how do one change the font color of the "window names" in kicker? Black is bad when kicker i dark... |
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| 14:11.38 | nik11 | hi |
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| 14:12.18 | Jucato | trixon: if you're using kde 3.5.6 (or .7) or later, there should be an option in right-click Configure Panels -> Taskbar |
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| 14:15.55 | trixon | Jucato: 358, it worked, ty! |
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| 14:18.19 | mattb | hi all, how do I change the k icon on the dock? |
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| 14:24.29 | apokryphos | mattb: check the FAQ in /topic |
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| 14:25.55 | downs | um |
| 14:26.05 | downs | what is kded and why might it exhibit 100% cpu load? |
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| 14:29.43 | rajkt | In kchmviewer is there any option to print the whole book? I can't print it page by page.. |
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| 14:30.54 | Jucato | rajkt: isn't there an All pages option? |
| 14:31.30 | downs | any ideas? :( |
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| 14:33.23 | rajkt | Jucato: no there is no option like that |
| 14:33.39 | downs | this is really annoying. |
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| 14:35.07 | Jucato | downs: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/userguide/background-processes.html is the only one I can find |
| 14:35.10 | Jucato | afaik it's the main KDE daemon |
| 14:35.23 | downs | ooh bleep. |
| 14:35.29 | Jucato | as to why it's taking up 100% cpu, I don't know. that's definitely not normal |
| 14:35.34 | downs | yea .. |
| 14:35.46 | downs | do you know if anything bad happens if I stop it for a second? |
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| 14:42.29 | mattb | hi all |
| 14:43.31 | spawn57 | i hate being sick |
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| 14:49.37 | Smak_ | Anyone recognize this error: A security Policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see messages bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal") Konqueror gives me that message with I try to plug in my flash drive. |
| 14:50.14 | nik11 | Smak_: are you authorize to mount ? |
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| 14:50.46 | downs | meep! |
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| 14:50.56 | Smak_ | Yep |
| 14:51.10 | nik11 | Smak_: can you return the result of the command groups |
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| 14:51.32 | Smak_ | wheel audio cdrom video cdrw usb users ntp portage plugdev' |
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| 14:52.24 | nik11 | Smak_: you are not in the Storage group |
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| 14:53.20 | Smak_ | I dont have a storage group |
| 14:53.46 | nik11 | and in your file /etc/group ? |
| 14:53.57 | Smak_ | I thought that was what the group plugdev was for |
| 14:54.10 | Smak_ | I dont have a storage group in /etc/group |
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| 14:55.40 | nik11 | :/ |
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| 15:00.06 | penguinbait | hello, I am running 3.5.8 and I am looking for some help. I compiled 3.5.8 for Nokia internet tablet, where everything runs as user "user" and I want to give out KDE like I always do to all the other Nokia tablet users. I want to deploy a custom menu, I include the .kde file in the KDE tarball, but the menu changes I make in kmenuedit dont transfer to other machines. I am guessing beause I remove the .kde/tmp socket and cache links before packaging, but |
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| 15:01.19 | Jucato | oh wow! it's the famous penguinbait?!?! O.o |
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| 15:01.56 | penguinbait | I am famous? |
| 15:02.19 | penguinbait | or infamous? |
| 15:02.25 | Jucato | at least to those reading dot.kde.org, and KDE users interested in the nokia tablets :) |
| 15:02.43 | penguinbait | hmmm, maybe I should bead dot.kde.org |
| 15:03.03 | penguinbait | s/bead/read |
| 15:03.16 | Jucato | penguinbait: http://dot.kde.org/1190138021/ |
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| 15:03.44 | Jucato | (although that's not where I saw your name first) |
| 15:04.13 | Jucato | penguinbait: anyway, changes to the menu don't go into .kde, but into ~/.config/menus afaik |
| 15:04.21 | Jucato | (it's an XDG thang) |
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| 15:10.05 | blendtux | i was wondering if its possible to configure kde when i put some app in the systray that it wont close when i click on the close button, for example like kopete behaves or konversation |
| 15:10.37 | blendtux | when the close button is clicked it minimize to systray |
| 15:10.56 | Jucato | (that's the default behavior of apps/windows with systray icons) |
| 15:11.03 | Jucato | (unless their systray icons are disabled) |
| 15:11.24 | Sho_ | blendtux: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Alltray+-+Docks+all+apps+into+tray?content=24006 |
| 15:11.44 | Jucato | he's fast... oh yes he is... |
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| 15:12.38 | blendtux | this is very neat Sho_ |
| 15:12.44 | flive | i want to backup some directories over ssh using k3b. but I can't open anything with fish: from within k3b itself, though I can with konqueror. |
| 15:12.49 | blendtux | btw is this going to be in kde 4 this kind of behaviour |
| 15:12.57 | flive | is this right? or am i missing something? |
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| 15:13.43 | thiago | flive: that's correct |
| 15:13.46 | thiago | flive: download the files first. |
| 15:14.22 | Jucato | blendtux: you can actually configure apps to have system tray icons. you can edit their K Menu entries and check the Place in system tray icon |
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| 15:14.50 | Sho_ | Jucato: That won't make the Close button not quit the app, though (unlike AllTray) |
| 15:14.56 | blendtux | yes i know that Jucato but when you click on the close button it closes the app |
| 15:14.58 | Jucato | oh |
| 15:15.01 | blendtux | i dont what that behaviour :) |
| 15:15.07 | Jucato | I thought that was the default behavior |
| 15:15.41 | Sho_ | Jucato: if you use the "Place in System Tray" option (which basically prepends ksystraycmd to the Exec= line in the .desktop file) you can toggle visibility of the window by clicking on the tray icon, but the behavior on closing the window using the button on the title bar is unchanged |
| 15:16.06 | Jucato | oh... |
| 15:16.39 | FreshPrince | anybody use xterm,urxvt,aterm ? |
| 15:16.53 | Sho_ | Jucato: Unlike apps like Konvi who specifically instanciate their own tray icon and are coded not to quit when closing the window while the tray icon is there |
| 15:16.59 | Jucato | FreshPrince: considering this is #kde, I presume most would be using konsole :) |
| 15:17.08 | FreshPrince | Jucato, i know D |
| 15:17.09 | FreshPrince | :D |
| 15:17.15 | Jucato | (try asking in your distro channel) |
| 15:17.23 | FreshPrince | yup |
| 15:17.26 | Jucato | Sho_: ah I see. so it's a per-app basis... |
| 15:17.40 | Sho_ | Jucato: yeah ... or use AllTray ;) |
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| 15:18.41 | Jucato | Sho_: would be nice if it were the default behavior of ksystraycmd though.. but anyway I'm not as systray-obsessed now as I was last year :) |
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| 15:19.41 | penguinbait | Thanks for the link Jucato |
| 15:20.07 | blendtux | alltray works very nice :) |
| 15:20.30 | flive | thiago: really? i don't think I have room for all the files locally. |
| 15:21.35 | blendtux | well Sho_ it does not work well with blender |
| 15:21.37 | penguinbait | seems to have stired up come controversy, I dont know why some many people get upset when I say I am runnning KDE on my Nokia |
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| 15:23.02 | Jucato | penguinbait: nah, don't mind those :) |
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| 15:23.59 | blendtux | oke next question, how can i configure kde so that it will only open one app only for example gwenview when i open an image it opens gwenview but when i open another one it opens another instance of the app |
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| 15:24.23 | blendtux | i want it to be opened in the one i have already open |
| 15:24.29 | Jucato | afaik that depends on the app, if it supports that |
| 15:24.33 | penguinbait | the Nokia people are worse :) |
| 15:24.53 | Jucato | heh. they're biased towards gtk... no surprise there :) |
| 15:25.06 | Sho_ | penguinbait: The Nokia people gave me a slot in the device program after I threatened to make Qt work on Maemo if they do :) |
| 15:25.36 | Jucato | s/do/don't/ ? |
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| 15:25.51 | blendtux | Jucato: is it possible for gwenview |
| 15:26.01 | Jucato | blendtux: not that I'm aware of |
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| 15:26.28 | blendtux | how would i configre it if it possible |
| 15:26.29 | penguinbait | Sho_ QT already works on the device |
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| 15:26.42 | Jucato | s/QT/Qt :D |
| 15:26.42 | penguinbait | Can run KDE without QT |
| 15:26.56 | penguinbait | Qt |
| 15:27.04 | Jucato | can run kde w/o qt? |
| 15:27.20 | penguinbait | I also got a coupon on the developer program, wish I could use in right now!! |
| 15:27.21 | hein | blendtux: That depends on the app ... if the Gwenview author wanted to support a single-instance mechanic he could have chosen to implement it |
| 15:27.41 | Jucato | bah! lucky people |
| 15:27.44 | penguinbait | s/Can/Can't |
| 15:27.47 | penguinbait | whoops |
| 15:27.48 | Jucato | (I should have entered.. hmph...) |
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| 15:28.16 | Sho_ | bah, stupid disconnects |
| 15:28.18 | Sho_ | penguinbait: Well, it's not integrated properly with the input method framework |
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| 15:29.32 | penguinbait | Sho_ it works fine, its the framework that needs to change :) |
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| 15:30.15 | penguinbait | the n810 has builtin keyboard, so its even less of an issue, but people like thier maemo |
| 15:30.19 | Sho_ | penguinbait: Perhaps, but until it does some glue code would be nice :-) |
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| 15:31.13 | penguinbait | Hey it got you a almost free device, thats all that matters :) |
| 15:31.45 | Ace2016 | Jucato: does konversation have a spell checker? |
| 15:31.54 | flive | thiago: it seems k3b can use fish: from the Porject->Add Files.. menu item |
| 15:31.58 | Sho_ | Yes, Jucato, tell us ;) |
| 15:31.58 | Jucato | Ace2016: of course :) |
| 15:32.05 | Jucato | ME! |
| 15:32.06 | Jucato | j/k |
| 15:32.15 | penguinbait | Nokia has a script called docpurge, that delete doccumentation, and inside the script it says "real hackers dont read docs" |
| 15:32.16 | Jucato | Ace2016: right-click on the text input field |
| 15:32.18 | Ace2016 | how do i enable it, asdads isn't underlined as a spelling error at the moment |
| 15:32.34 | penguinbait | Real hackers read all the docs, |
| 15:32.43 | Ace2016 | but i want it to underline words as i type |
| 15:32.52 | Ace2016 | ah i found it nevermind |
| 15:32.56 | Jucato | :P |
| 15:33.03 | Ace2016 | its soo cool i won't spell badly now |
| 15:33.04 | Jucato | it highlights them |
| 15:33.13 | Jucato | (which is better than just underlining) |
| 15:33.20 | Ace2016 | yea its easier to see that than underlining |
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| 15:35.19 | flive | thiago: or not... |
| 15:35.33 | blendtux | btw Sho_i noticed that alltray works faster then the normal systray apps |
| 15:37.12 | Ace2016 | is there a kde specific version of alltray? |
| 15:37.33 | Ace2016 | i mean one written in qt or a part of kde? |
| 15:37.57 | Ace2016 | oh will kde4 have an option to send stuff to the tray from the taskbar? that'll be handy |
| 15:38.03 | dwinslow | http://kdocker.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:38.10 | dwinslow | i think that's in Qt |
| 15:38.17 | Jucato | Ace2016: [23:11] <Sho_> blendtux: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Alltray+-+Docks+all+apps+into+tray?content=24006 |
| 15:38.24 | Jucato | one would presume, since it's in kde-apps... |
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| 15:39.24 | Sho_ | Ace2016: AllTray does have kwin-specific code ... but you can also try http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KDocker?content=13356 |
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| 15:40.14 | Ace2016 | i was looking for something tied into kicker, like right click > advanced > send to tray |
| 15:40.20 | Ace2016 | will kde 4 have something like that |
| 15:41.06 | Sho_ | As discussed above, there's a "Place in System Tray" option in the properties of application shortcuts |
| 15:41.28 | Ace2016 | huh? |
| 15:41.43 | Sho_ | But while that gets you tray icons and the ability to hide windows, it differs from the mechanic of clicking the window close button hide the window rather than quit the app |
| 15:42.20 | Ace2016 | what about middle click to send to the tray and middle click to get it out of the tray |
| 15:42.51 | blendtux | middle click is paste Ace2016 |
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| 15:43.07 | Ace2016 | not if you middle click on a taskbar item |
| 15:43.35 | Ace2016 | so if you click the taskbar item it goes to the system tray, middle clicking a system trayed app brings it back |
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| 15:44.25 | Ace2016 | bye all |
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| 16:01.41 | asfak | i am habituated using ctrl+enter to autocomplete webadress on firefox and ie. How do i do that on konqueror |
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| 16:12.04 | NullAcht15 | Hi, I'm following the instructions on http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 right now for building kde4. My problem is that at the end of building kdesupport, I get the error message "makeobj: Command not found" |
| 16:12.30 | NullAcht15 | although I have unset the alias from make to makeobj |
| 16:13.25 | Jucato | have you sourced the .bashrc file after you changed it? |
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| 16:13.36 | Jucato | (source ~/.bashrc or simple logout and login) |
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| 16:14.29 | Arelis | Hi all. I tried to install KDE 4 in Ubuntu.. seems like i installed beta 4, instead of Release Candidate 1. How can i upgrade? |
| 16:14.55 | Jucato | Arelis: #kubuntu please |
| 16:15.51 | NullAcht15 | Jucato: No, I did unalias make instead |
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| 16:26.46 | NullAcht15 | also, for some reason, cmakekde seems to make an in-source build here instead of an out-of-source one |
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| 16:27.13 | linuxsuper | It is clear that KDE 4 is not ready for primetime.It needs more QA and polishing. |
| 16:27.21 | annma | NullAcht15: so you don't follow techbase doc |
| 16:27.32 | annma | linuxsuper: feel free to help |
| 16:27.41 | annma | every saturday is a debug day |
| 16:27.53 | MinceR | caturday |
| 16:27.54 | linuxsuper | annma That's what I am doing. |
| 16:28.04 | annma | how? |
| 16:28.09 | Jucato | annma!!! I'm building kde4 now :) |
| 16:28.15 | Jucato | on my laptop... without kde3!! |
| 16:28.17 | annma | hey Jucato :)) |
| 16:28.20 | annma | wow |
| 16:28.29 | linuxsuper | It is better to be slow and steady instead of super cool and useless. |
| 16:28.31 | Jucato | bwahaha!!! |
| 16:28.33 | annma | I just reinstalled my linux |
| 16:28.45 | Jucato | what happened? |
| 16:28.49 | Sput | I am too, but I am not uninstalling kde3 :) |
| 16:28.51 | Sput | plasma has matured a lot during the past two days :D |
| 16:28.51 | annma | linuxsuper: yesn but how do you help? |
| 16:28.54 | Sput | hover icons look much nicer now |
| 16:29.05 | annma | linuxsuper: but telling us it should be improved? |
| 16:29.05 | Sput | and it feels faster again |
| 16:29.09 | linuxsuper | annma I do QA. |
| 16:29.10 | Jucato | hehe I installed a base/headless command-line system.. now building KDE4 on top of it :) |
| 16:29.17 | annma | you do where linuxsuper? |
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| 16:29.32 | linuxsuper | In my basement. |
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| 16:29.39 | Jucato | O.o |
| 16:29.50 | annma | so, links to QA improvements you found? |
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| 16:30.01 | annma | I'm ready to fix some |
| 16:30.07 | Sput | I might be able to join on saturday, though I won't have a xinerama system handy then :/ |
| 16:30.08 | linuxsuper | annma Sure. |
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| 16:30.32 | annma | linuxsuper: ok, paste URL please |
| 16:30.54 | Bille | linuxsuper: my justification for releasing sooner with bugs: http://arstechnica.com/journals/linux.ars/2007/11/08/kde-4-0-beta-4-released-extensive-end-user-testing-to-begin |
| 16:31.01 | linuxsuper | annma Can't do it right away. |
| 16:31.23 | annma | ah I thought you did |
| 16:31.29 | linuxsuper | Bille I am one such extensive end user testing persona. |
| 16:31.47 | Bille | great |
| 16:32.02 | annma | linuxsuper: anyway feel free to give facts whenever you have some |
| 16:32.04 | linuxsuper | annma Belive me if you care. |
| 16:32.19 | annma | I act, I don't believe |
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| 16:32.53 | Sput | strange guy |
| 16:33.04 | annma | yeah |
| 16:33.16 | annma | you guys should do this, you guys should do that |
| 16:33.18 | Jucato | 50%... |
| 16:33.38 | annma | I heard that a bit too much today |
| 16:33.49 | Sput | well, I think kde4 is almost ready for primetime for me... I am hopefully finishing a complete svn build overnight and try tomorrow at work |
| 16:34.16 | Sput | the gentoo ebuilds stopped screwing with my kde3 installation yesterday, apparently.. now all I need is a tweaked xsession file and I should be good to go... |
| 16:34.26 | bfrog | I'm keeping my mouth shut honestly, everytime I do a svn build it acts and looks even better |
| 16:34.49 | Sput | this eyecandy makes me drool |
| 16:35.49 | Sput | bfrog: agreed, in the past few weeks things started to fall in place rapidly |
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| 16:36.44 | bfrog | certainly looks that way doesn't it |
| 16:38.14 | mikkael | kde-style-qtcurve doesnt apply changes i made in its config. any idea how i could start to find out whats going wrong ? |
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| 16:49.49 | Sput | annma: what's the kde4 equivalent for kcontrol called? |
| 16:49.59 | annma | systemsettings |
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| 16:50.12 | Sput | ah, thx |
| 16:50.49 | Sput | that was too easy :) I did look for ksettings |
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| 16:56.37 | ZeBarbu | can I ask question about kde4 here, or is it elsewhere? |
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| 16:57.46 | ZeBarbu | for kde4, I can't manage to use the openGL backend for kwin (on nvidia) |
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| 16:58.58 | Cazou | Hi all ! |
| 16:59.15 | ZeBarbu | hi |
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| 16:59.51 | Cazou | I have just downloaded, complied and installed the latest svn version of KDE |
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| 17:01.05 | Cazou | and I find it a little bit too... dark, for example, the task bar is black and it reminds me the first time I saw Windows Vista task bar |
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| 17:01.48 | Cazou | do you plan to change the default colour of the task bar ? |
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| 17:07.43 | annma | Cazou: yes, we plan to |
| 17:08.02 | annma | don't worry about the look, KDE always has been highly configurable |
| 17:08.11 | Sho_ | Cazou: Quite a bit of the artwork in RC1 are temporary placeholders; the taskbar is among them |
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| 17:12.01 | nixternal | I can't update my kde svn!!! help!@#!! Just kidding! boy did RC1 swamp us or what? that is a good thing though :) |
| 17:12.32 | Jucato | haha |
| 17:12.42 | Jucato | kdebase took longer to download than to compile :) |
| 17:12.44 | nixternal | you like that one there mr. Jucato! |
| 17:13.04 | nixternal | I get svn disconnect right now...hopefully later I will be able to continue the updates |
| 17:13.09 | Jucato | :) |
| 17:13.12 | Jucato | glad I finished mine :P |
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| 17:13.26 | nixternal | I just realised something though, I am going to have to use the tarballs I downloaded the other day in order to create the foresight packages |
| 17:13.49 | Sput | I hope the taskbar will be able to handle more tasks than it is now... I am used to a layout with three lines stacked to acommodate 15-25 tasks |
| 17:13.55 | Sput | the current layout with huge icons looks nice, but is not suitable for more than say 8 tasks :) |
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| 17:14.20 | Cazou | ah ok, it's better this way :-) |
| 17:14.29 | mikkael | ..and starts in the middle of my screen, not near the menu |
| 17:14.36 | Cazou | and also, where is kcontrol ? :-s |
| 17:14.49 | Sput | Cazou: systemsettings |
| 17:14.53 | Jucato | Cazou: it's systemsettings now |
| 17:14.54 | Sput | I just asked that a couple minutes ago :) |
| 17:15.07 | Jucato | mikkael: I think panel applets will be movable soon |
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| 17:15.43 | nixternal | it is sad, I think that is all I am waiting for in KDE 4, and that is moving the panel applets :) shows you just how quick these people are around here |
| 17:16.26 | Cazou | thank you very much ! |
| 17:16.50 | Cazou | and, maybe people are saying it a lot but, very nice work ! |
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| 17:19.09 | annma | thanks Cazou |
| 17:19.43 | annma | most people point the things that are unfinished so it's nice to have a thank you |
| 17:19.57 | nixternal | no annma, thank you! |
| 17:19.58 | nixternal | :) |
| 17:20.03 | Jucato | rawr!! kde4 at last!! but now X issues :P |
| 17:20.17 | nixternal | those are Jucato issues, don't try and blame it on X |
| 17:20.24 | Jucato | haha of course :) |
| 17:20.33 | nixternal | what problem are you having? |
| 17:20.36 | Jucato | but kde4 oh sweet kde4 :) |
| 17:20.45 | nixternal | I think an X issue is something I have yet had |
| 17:21.07 | Jucato | hehe it's because I built kde4 on my laptop, which has an intel graphics card :) |
| 17:21.13 | Kibou | is there a reason why konsole's color palette is dimmer than xterm's or gnoem-terminal's? it makes many of vim's 256 color colorschemes look too dark |
| 17:21.18 | Jucato | and I know squat about intel grapihcs cards :P |
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| 17:21.57 | nixternal | Jucato: same here..I use nothing but Intel |
| 17:22.18 | dwinslow | intel graphics cards should be pretty problem free in linux |
| 17:22.26 | nixternal | they have been for me |
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| 17:22.37 | Jucato | they are |
| 17:22.45 | Jucato | I just don't know how to do this thing manually :D |
| 17:22.51 | nixternal | what do you need to do? |
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| 17:23.57 | Jucato | enable 3d acceleration :) |
| 17:23.57 | nixternal | lol |
| 17:23.57 | nixternal | I didn't have to enable anything with mine |
| 17:23.57 | Jucato | lucky you... glxinfo reveals mesa :( |
| 17:23.57 | nixternal | Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Enable" |
| 17:23.57 | nixternal | EndSection |
| 17:23.57 | nixternal | I take it back, I must have |
| 17:23.57 | KRF | kdesvn down? :( |
| 17:23.58 | nixternal | just don't remember doing it |
| 17:24.00 | nixternal | KRF: ya, RC 1 has opened theh flood gates |
| 17:24.08 | nixternal | 1 to 2 gb/s is what I seen/heard |
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| 17:24.15 | KRF | nixternal, oh :P |
| 17:24.18 | KRF | ha, works again |
| 17:24.26 | Sho_ | nixternal: Enabling the COMPOSITE extension != enabling 3D accel, tho' |
| 17:24.29 | nixternal | Jucato: did you see that? |
| 17:24.38 | Jucato | nixternal: yeah :) |
| 17:24.48 | Jucato | enabling composite kinda presupposes 3d is enabled already :) |
| 17:24.49 | nixternal | Sho_: shows you how much I don't know about X ey :) |
| 17:25.01 | Sho_ | Jucato: Actually, no |
| 17:25.12 | Jucato | Sho_: shows you how much I don't know about X ey :) |
| 17:25.14 | Sho_ | Jucato: The COMPOSITE extension by itself does not rely on OpenGL |
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| 17:28.21 | Sho_ | nixternal, Jucato: There are three extensions that go into making a composited desktop work: One is COMPOSITE, which enables a display model where window contents are drawn to offscreen buffers rather than directly to the framebuffer. DAMAGE, which allows applications to track modified regions, which a composition manager needs to implement its painting regime properly. The third is Fixes, which solves a few minor problems as the name alludes to. DAMAGE and FIXES are |
| 17:28.21 | Sho_ | enabled by default. COMPOSITE is, too, in the most recent Xorg server, but has to be enabled manually in the config file in older versions. |
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| 17:29.02 | KWhat_Work | When i an External Taskbar panel in KDE, why can i not adjust its properties such as size or position in the panel configuration dialog? I usually have a drop down menu where i can select the item to modify but its missing on this computer. (Gentoo KDE 3.5.7) |
| 17:29.05 | Sho_ | nixternal, Jucato: Now if a compositing manager happens to be an OpenGL application, it needs OpenGL support. Older composiiton managers like KDE 3.4.0+'s kompmgr are 2D-only and don't require OpenGL support. kwin in KDE 4 supports both a 2D XRender codepath and OpenGL. |
| 17:29.25 | Slidey | is there any easy way to create a dynamic menu when i right click on my desktop so it reads a list of servers from a config file, and allows me to connect to each of the machines on it? |
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| 17:30.13 | nixternal | Sho_: I thought I was lost before with X, man am I even worse now :) So, if I do understand this the least bit, then I could safely remove the "Composite" section from my xorg.conf and everything will be lovely? |
| 17:30.23 | nixternal | I have using Hardy, so I know the X is as new as it gets |
| 17:30.28 | nixternal | s/have/am |
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| 17:31.12 | tuchs | hi! |
| 17:31.15 | Sho_ | nixternal: If you have xorg-server 1.4 / Xorg 7.3 and there's no Ubuntu patcheroo involved you should get COMPOSITE even without specifically enabling it in xorg.conf, yeah |
| 17:31.45 | nixternal | groovy |
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| 17:32.35 | tuchs | i'm trying to install kde from svn. I followed the instructions at techbase, created a new user and copied that bashrc-file. |
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| 17:32.54 | tuchs | but now i noticed that if i "sudo" a command in bash, nothing happens. |
| 17:33.07 | tuchs | i'm asked for the password, but after that, nothing happens. |
| 17:33.20 | tuchs | sudo cd.. e.g. leaves me in the same dir. |
| 17:33.35 | tuchs | what could cause this and how can i fix it? |
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| 17:34.39 | tuchs | su -c doesn't work under kubuntu normally, so i can't use that either. |
| 17:35.40 | Slidey | heh |
| 17:35.50 | Slidey | tuchs you're doing the equivalent of su -; cd ..; exit |
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| 17:35.57 | konadr | try 'sudo su - tuchs |
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| 17:36.29 | Slidey | or even the equivalent of typing: "bash; cd ..; exit" |
| 17:36.48 | Slidey | you're opening a new session, changing directory in there, and hten closing that session and returning to the previous one |
| 17:37.25 | tuchs | thanks, one of the worksaround worked, but what can i do to really fix sudo? |
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| 17:37.40 | konadr | man visudo tuchs |
| 17:38.05 | konadr | also man sude |
| 17:38.07 | konadr | ahhh! |
| 17:38.09 | konadr | man sudo |
| 17:38.33 | Slidey | sudo isnt broken |
| 17:38.43 | Slidey | its doing exactly what you're asking it to do |
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| 17:48.16 | Nenomira | hello, anyone here have a moment to help me;P |
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| 17:49.05 | Nenomira | out of range |
| 17:49.05 | Nenomira | <Nenomira> h,Frequency: 3 5 khz |
| 17:49.05 | Nenomira | <Nenomira> v,frequency: 7 9 HZ |
| 17:49.24 | Nenomira | on monitor |
| 17:50.08 | Nenomira | and system-config-display --reconfig just comes up with the same error |
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| 17:51.04 | annma | ask your distro channel |
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| 17:51.36 | Nenomira | sad they dont know ;S |
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| 18:05.53 | KWhat_Work | When i an External Taskbar panel in KDE, why can i not adjust its properties such as size or position in the panel configuration dialog? I usually have a drop down menu where i can select the item to modify but its missing on this computer. (Gentoo KDE 3.5.7) |
| 18:07.09 | Jucato | KWhat_Work: try doing it from KControl -> Desktop -> Panels |
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| 18:07.59 | nitro4ce | is there a way to add a quick search box (google) to konqueror web browser? |
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| 18:08.17 | fir3__ | hi |
| 18:08.34 | fir3__ | how can i activate font antialiasing in kde4 rc1? |
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| 18:09.14 | KWhat_Work | Jucato: There is is, THANKS |
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| 18:16.52 | ArmOrAttAk | anyway to reset the cursor without restarting x? |
| 18:17.32 | ArmOrAttAk | its stuck in a visual feedback loop or something |
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| 18:19.29 | ArmOrAttAk | really annoying too |
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| 18:22.09 | ArmOrAttAk | sometimes i open files in kwrite and the window never opens but i can see the process |
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| 18:23.14 | ArmOrAttAk | this freakn cursor has been bouncing for 20 minutes |
| 18:23.34 | Jucato | O.o |
| 18:23.42 | Jucato | that's not.. normal.. :( |
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| 18:33.37 | GionnyBoss | I am trying Kdocker. It works and now I have the window I want in my system tray, but it does not blink. Does anybody know how to let it blink, or probably it's just that I can't do it? |
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| 18:38.58 | ktne | hello |
| 18:39.12 | free1 | hi |
| 18:39.36 | ktne | are there precompiled packages for kde 4 beta 1 for debian? |
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| 18:40.52 | free1 | umm, I 'm not sure about anyone else, but maybe the kde4 room would know for sure. |
| 18:40.58 | ktne | hmm |
| 18:41.00 | ktne | ok thanks :) |
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| 18:41.15 | ann_eat | no |
| 18:41.26 | ann_eat | the kde4-devel is for development |
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| 18:42.25 | nixternal | there are kde 4 beta 1 packages for Debian, but I think ktne meant RC 1, and they are working on it now |
| 18:42.33 | nixternal | right pusling? :) |
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| 18:43.14 | free1 | what up nixternal?!!? |
| 18:43.28 | nixternal | same ol' same ol' |
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| 18:43.35 | free1 | I heard that |
| 18:43.36 | nixternal | hrmm, a chicago guy I see |
| 18:44.17 | free1 | I'm trying to give kde a go via a server I have an account on |
| 18:44.22 | nixternal | free1: are you in fact living in the chicagoland area, or has rcn pushed you through this great city? |
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| 18:44.57 | free1 | nixternal: I just saw you at the loco meeting--- toshiba laptop |
| 18:45.03 | nixternal | oh |
| 18:45.03 | nixternal | hehe |
| 18:45.10 | nixternal | I am trying to remember |
| 18:45.18 | free1 | it's D |
| 18:45.21 | nixternal | ahh |
| 18:45.23 | nixternal | what's up D |
| 18:45.36 | free1 | so I've been trying to make a go of KDE |
| 18:45.46 | free1 | via this server that I have an account on |
| 18:45.51 | nixternal | KDE 4? |
| 18:46.01 | free1 | I don't think so |
| 18:46.06 | nixternal | using Kubuntu again? |
| 18:46.11 | free1 | no |
| 18:46.20 | free1 | I have a web account |
| 18:46.30 | free1 | they have a gui which is kde |
| 18:46.33 | nixternal | ahhhh |
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| 18:46.40 | nixternal | that is interesting |
| 18:46.46 | free1 | so when I 'ssh -X user@server' |
| 18:46.56 | nixternal | groovy |
| 18:47.03 | free1 | and then type 'startkde' at the commandline |
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| 18:47.14 | nixternal | it will not build telepathy-qt for the life of it |
| 18:47.15 | thiago_home | rmake? |
| 18:47.20 | free1 | no dice |
| 18:47.20 | nixternal | foresight/conary |
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| 18:47.22 | thiago_home | I've heard of gmake, pmake and smake |
| 18:47.25 | thiago_home | but not rmake? |
| 18:47.37 | nixternal | hehe, rmake is the foresight/rpath/conary build tool |
| 18:47.50 | nixternal | similar to debian's pbuilder or sbuild you could say |
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| 18:48.37 | free1 | nixternal- any ideas on what could be holding this kde back |
| 18:48.39 | free1 | ? |
| 18:48.50 | nixternal | on that server? |
| 18:49.05 | free1 | yes, generally speaking |
| 18:49.18 | nixternal | is it not starting up at all? what exactly is it doing? |
| 18:49.47 | nixternal | pusling: someone was asking about debian kde 4 beta 1 builds, but I think he meant rc1 builds...so I just decided to set you out on that one a little bit :) |
| 18:50.10 | pusling | read ana's blog ;) |
| 18:50.26 | nixternal | is she syndicted on p.d.o? |
| 18:50.52 | nixternal | found it |
| 18:50.56 | free1 | it seems that x is running, but then error |
| 18:51.16 | free1 | kinit : $DISPLAY not set |
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| 18:51.53 | nixternal | free1: try typing this in the command line |
| 18:51.58 | nixternal | export DISPLAY=:1 |
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| 18:55.11 | free1 | nixternal- xset: unable to open display ":1" , and then it says cannot connect to x server |
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| 18:56.07 | nixternal | I dunno what else to try...I have never used or try to use X in that way at all |
| 18:57.56 | free1 | that's cool, |
| 18:58.18 | free1 | I'll try and figure something out with the x-forwarding perhaps. |
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| 20:05.12 | bottiger | I'm trying out the RC of KDE4 on a dual screen setup. It works, but I don't see the K-menu and the 3D rendering is really slow |
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| 20:05.27 | bottiger | any comments? |
| 20:05.28 | _Shade_ | hi there |
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| 20:05.49 | Kernel | hello all. does anyone know if its possible to set it up so when i right click a mp3 in konqueror ..i have a option to "add to queue" in xmms? it would be realy sweet if it did. |
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| 20:05.56 | thiago_home | bottiger: yes: we need more help with Xinerama |
| 20:06.08 | Sho_ | bottiger: There have been some dual-screen fixes since RC1 was tagged ... and 3D rendering is highly driver-dependent and also still has some optimization potential left |
| 20:06.10 | thiago_home | Kernel: yes, it's possible. |
| 20:06.29 | Kernel | thiago_home: sweet...any ideas how i could set that up? |
| 20:06.34 | thiago_home | Kernel: search Google for servicemenu |
| 20:06.53 | Kernel | thiago_home: ok thanks :-) |
| 20:06.59 | bottiger | thiago_home: I don't (think) I'm using Xinerama, only nvidia twinview |
| 20:07.06 | _Shade_ | kde4's about to be available soon... would it be possible to run it WITHOUT plasma ? |
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| 20:07.10 | Sho_ | Kernel: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDEXMMS-Enquequeservicemenus?content=38709 |
| 20:07.16 | Sho_ | Kernel: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Enqueue-and-Play-with-XMMS?content=11472 |
| 20:07.25 | Sho_ | Kernel: some others too - have a search at kde-look.org |
| 20:07.33 | thiago_home | _Shade_: yes |
| 20:07.44 | Kernel | Sho_: killer :-) |
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| 20:08.15 | _Shade_ | thiago_home: oh how nice... i don't like plasma you know :) |
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| 20:09.08 | cbcbcb | does anyone have the KDE4 live CD working under KVM? |
| 20:09.22 | _Shade_ | can i disable plasma on my recent kde4 build? |
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| 20:10.28 | annma | killall plasma |
| 20:11.16 | _Shade_ | thiago_home: you said that it is possible but what would be responsible for panel handling then? |
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| 20:12.28 | _Shade_ | i don't like plasma since it doesn't support on-desktop icons or right-click context menu (besides its own) |
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| 20:13.04 | androide | hi there, on kspread i'm trying to make a chart, of an extrange reason some bars ends with a "/\" at the top |
| 20:13.29 | androide | [the ones above the \maximun\ value on the Y] |
| 20:13.32 | androide | how i can change that max? |
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| 20:34.53 | hensema | is kde4 supposed to be extremely slow compared to kde3? |
| 20:35.07 | hensema | rendering of menus, windows, etc is waaaay to slow |
| 20:35.46 | hensema | also, I seem to be getting the dropshadow of some (all?) windows in the upper left corner of the screen |
| 20:36.11 | hensema | it feels like all hardware acceleration is turned off |
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| 20:36.29 | annma | hensema: do yo have composite enabled? |
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| 20:36.35 | adamt | where should i go for kde4-related questions? :-) |
| 20:36.35 | bottiger | hensema: I have the same "problem". I don't think there's anything you can do about it |
| 20:36.38 | annma | and is it a Live CD |
| 20:36.44 | annma | adamt: here |
| 20:36.50 | adamt | cool, annma |
| 20:36.55 | bottiger | hensema: but I guess it will be fixed soner og later |
| 20:36.56 | hensema | annma: it's opensuse 10.3, installed on hdd |
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| 20:37.12 | hensema | annma: don't know about compose, in kde3 it's on and fast |
| 20:37.14 | annma | are desktop effects on? |
| 20:37.20 | adamt | the taskbar used in rc1, is it going to be that in 4.0 final? =/ and can it in any ways be configured? |
| 20:37.26 | annma | kwin desktop effects |
| 20:37.35 | Desintegr | adamt: wip |
| 20:37.35 | annma | it'll be configurable |
| 20:37.41 | adamt | ahh okay |
| 20:37.45 | annma | it's temporary adamt |
| 20:37.47 | androide | how i can change the "Series 1", "Series 2", to a custom name? [on kChart] |
| 20:37.48 | annma | rc1 |
| 20:37.56 | androide | already download the kChart handbook |
| 20:37.58 | annma | androide: #koffice |
| 20:38.01 | adamt | any way i can disable the current one then, and just use the old taskbar from kde 3? |
| 20:38.09 | adamt | (both are running right now anyways) |
| 20:38.21 | annma | adamt: by taskbar you mean panel I think |
| 20:38.25 | adamt | annma: yeah |
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| 20:38.41 | annma | killall panel maybe in kde4 |
| 20:38.45 | annma | not sure though |
| 20:39.04 | adamt | nah, it wasn't |
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| 20:39.11 | annma | killall plasma |
| 20:39.15 | annma | bye plasma |
| 20:39.22 | dwinslow | you should be able to do "xkill" and click on the panel to kill it |
| 20:40.14 | adamt | xkill killed all of plasma - oh well, :-) |
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| 20:40.48 | Desintegr | the new panel is part of plasma |
| 20:40.59 | adamt | yeah, it makes sense |
| 20:41.09 | adamt | oh - another question - is konqueror meant to be that crippled, or is that also a wip? |
| 20:42.09 | androide | #koffice sucks |
| 20:42.18 | androide | anyhow, back to openoffice |
| 20:42.20 | androide | cya |
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| 20:43.29 | annma | not sure what you guys thought a rc1 would be |
| 20:43.37 | adamt | :-) |
| 20:43.45 | Fri13 | Hi! |
| 20:43.47 | annma | but you should go back to kde3 asap |
| 20:43.57 | hensema | a release candidate is just that... something the developers honestly think is ready to be released |
| 20:44.02 | hensema | else it's a beta |
| 20:44.26 | adamt | i thought it was what the name implied - something that was kinda useable, but konqueror4 doesn't even render anything here, and still crashes upon opening the settings dialog, like in all other betas :-) |
| 20:44.37 | hensema | unfortunately you'll have to call it rc because else nobody will test it ;) |
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| 20:45.07 | Fri13 | Has it already started? :-) |
| 20:45.16 | annma | adamt: report crash with back trace |
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| 20:45.30 | annma | konqueror here renders and settings dialog works |
| 20:45.33 | adamt | annma: yeah, i know, but does it work anywhere at all? :-) |
| 20:45.34 | adamt | okay. |
| 20:45.44 | annma | it does |
| 20:45.51 | annma | except I compile mine |
| 20:46.02 | Fri13 | Konqueror works here too |
| 20:46.04 | annma | and also I work on it |
| 20:46.15 | adamt | okay, this is the suse build |
| 20:46.16 | mkdno | anybody know which menu will have kde4 by default? I've seen a few differents in some blogs |
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| 20:46.31 | annma | kickoff mkdno |
| 20:46.35 | annma | for KDE 4.0 |
| 20:46.57 | mkdno | ok thx |
| 20:47.04 | Fri13 | annma: Will KDE4 support on final state kickoff resize too? |
| 20:47.06 | annma | you guys don't realize all the (free) work and (free) hours behind that stuff |
| 20:47.37 | annma | resize? |
| 20:47.45 | adamt | annma: i'm not quite shure who offends you? |
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| 20:47.56 | Sho_ | annma: The KDE 3 version in SUSE had a resize grippie in the bottom-right |
| 20:48.03 | Fri13 | annma: yes, there aint resize rubber like kickoff on KDE3 series has. |
| 20:48.04 | annma | adamt: you said it's not usable |
| 20:48.23 | annma | not sure resize is planned for now |
| 20:48.49 | adamt | annma: i said konqueror wasn't useable, but recognized that it might be a local problem.. sorry, but i think you must be a tad tired :-) |
| 20:49.12 | Fri13 | Okay, then i go to fill a bugreport. Because mine is too small for buttons on bottom. |
| 20:49.19 | Sho_ | adamt: FWIW, I can't reproduce your above errors - Konq4 renders fine here, and the settings dialog opens fine, too, as it has for a long time for me. You should produce backtraces and file some bugs. |
| 20:49.44 | adamt | Sho_: could it be because i runs it from a kde3 session? |
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| 20:50.06 | Sho_ | adamt: I don't think so, I did that right now too to try and reproduce once more |
| 20:50.13 | *** topic/#kde by annma -> KDE 3.5.8 is out! See www.kde.org | #kde4-krush to debug KDE 4 on Saturday | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/faq/ | Don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Distro related questions go in your distro channel | State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde ! |
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| 20:50.33 | adamt | Sho_: okay |
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| 20:50.54 | Sho_ | adamt: http://www.eikehein.com/konq4.png <- fresh shot |
| 20:51.13 | litb | i'm really looking forward to use the first stable docker for KDE |
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| 20:51.30 | adamt | Sho_: you don't need to prove anything :-) |
| 20:51.36 | litb | i hope that with plasma, we will soon see something grow up usable |
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| 20:51.51 | Sho_ | adamt: Nah, I just love ksnapshot and kio_ftp too much. Screenshot reflex. :) |
| 20:52.32 | adamt | i noticed, that phonon seems to bypass my pcm-setting for the volume? how can that be? using xine directly instead of phonon from amarok works as i think it should |
| 20:52.38 | Fri13 | What kde part is needed to get kde remote:/ network wizard? That one where you can save sFTP username and password to easy access? |
| 20:52.49 | Sho_ | Fri13: knetattach |
| 20:52.55 | Fri13 | Thanks Sho_ |
| 20:53.07 | annma | adamt: you run kde4 with a fresh $KDEHOME I hope? |
| 20:53.18 | annma | phonon works just fine here |
| 20:53.24 | Skrot- | Sho_: Is systray still a little bugged with regards to positioning etc? |
| 20:53.30 | litb | knetattach could use some nice pictures on the left side |
| 20:53.34 | adamt | annma: it works fine, but bypasses the pcm-setting |
| 20:53.47 | annma | then it does nto work fine |
| 20:53.51 | Sho_ | Skrot-: It's better than it used to be lately (where it would just wander about the top screen edge), but it's still unfinished |
| 20:53.53 | litb | why do all of you recommend to use a fresh KDEHOME ?? |
| 20:53.56 | annma | mine works with all settings |
| 20:54.09 | annma | litb: to not mmix kde3 and 4 settings |
| 20:54.15 | litb | if bad configs make kde misbehave, that is a bug and needs to be fixed |
| 20:54.15 | Skrot- | Sho_: Right, last time i built it was above the clock |
| 20:54.18 | bottiger | litb: I won't break your kde3 setup |
| 20:54.22 | adamt | but no, it's not a fresh $KDEHOME - i'm still only playing with single apps from within kde 3 |
| 20:54.23 | annma | litb: LOL |
| 20:54.30 | annma | you're kidding right |
| 20:54.38 | litb | i'm really serious |
| 20:54.41 | Fri13 | litb: mayby for keep your KDE3 settings safe and make sure your KDE3 settings dont affect KDE4 ;-) |
| 20:54.41 | annma | lol |
| 20:54.46 | annma | ok |
| 20:55.00 | litb | configs are there to be configurable. but if applications get confused and crash on bad configs, there is a bug somewhere |
| 20:55.14 | annma | yeah but config also was in development |
| 20:55.21 | annma | shouldn't it? |
| 20:55.34 | litb | sure |
| 20:55.38 | Fri13 | litb: and if configs where changed so they are on different place or they as different things, old configs dont work and makes apps to crash |
| 20:55.39 | annma | so that's why |
| 20:56.07 | Fri13 | they gives different thigs, |
| 20:56.07 | litb | Fri13: and that should be fixed. apps must never crash on bad configs |
| 20:56.13 | annma | lol |
| 20:56.20 | litb | never ever should apps crash. that's called defensive programming |
| 20:56.21 | Fri13 | litb: It's then more apps problem now on. |
| 20:56.27 | annma | lol |
| 20:56.36 | annma | litb: you live in what world? |
| 20:56.41 | Skrot- | It's no laughing matter though ;) |
| 20:56.42 | hardcampa | heh |
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| 20:56.57 | Sho_ | Skrot-: It's on the panel these days but it's still a bit broken |
| 20:56.59 | Fri13 | Because if now KDE4 moves more to freedesktops.org standards as Gnome too, apps makers should be aware of that. |
| 20:57.03 | bottiger | litb: well - fix it :P fixing bugs takes time, I don't think the bugs are there because people like them |
| 20:57.40 | Fri13 | bottiger: My friend likes bugs... he collects them :-/ |
| 20:57.51 | Sho_ | Fri13: We co-wrote many of the fd.o standards, you know ;) |
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| 20:57.57 | Fri13 | ....unless you meant software bugs ;-) |
| 20:58.00 | Sho_ | Fri13: A number of them are in many ways based on things KDE used to do ;) |
| 20:58.07 | Skrot- | litb: I agree with you though, app developers should be carefull with settings read from configs. |
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| 20:59.12 | Fri13 | This really is little bit confusin, after so many years, KDE looks so hard to use, i dont even know how to get configure "kicker" (plasma now?) |
| 20:59.41 | Skrot- | Fri13: Are you using KDE 4 (plasma) or KDE 3 (kicker)? |
| 20:59.44 | adamt | Fri13: WIP |
| 20:59.52 | Fri13 | Skrot-: Pure KDE4 :-) |
| 20:59.54 | adamt | Fri13: it's not done yet, that's why :-) |
| 20:59.59 | annma | Skrot-: if that was so easy we would do it |
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| 21:00.04 | Fri13 | adamt: Damn... :-) |
| 21:00.04 | annma | config is not easy |
| 21:00.04 | Skrot- | Fri13: Then what adamt said. |
| 21:00.21 | annma | if you have config tips I suggest you subscribe to kde-core-devel |
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| 21:00.34 | annma | because config guris are needed right now |
| 21:00.35 | Skrot- | annma: I know input validation from web programming, not so much from app development, but as far as I've seen the principle's the same; read text from a file via some framework? |
| 21:00.54 | annma | Skrot-: I don't understand the internals myself |
| 21:00.55 | litb | Fri13: howdy, it is kcmshell panel |
| 21:01.04 | annma | but believe me, it's not easy |
| 21:01.05 | adamt | alt-tab works, but alt-shift-tab doesn't - has anything changed there, or also wip? or is my keyboard acting all up? |
| 21:01.15 | annma | so if you can help, please do help |
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| 21:01.35 | pedepy | i thought that if they were gonna take their idea all the way that the kde4 "kicker" was gonna be just another plasma widget |
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| 21:01.49 | pedepy | containing other widgets |
| 21:01.56 | pedepy | wasnt that the idea ? |
| 21:02.04 | litb | is it possible to all plasma widgets to contain other plasma widgets? |
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| 21:02.14 | litb | i would expect this, as the panel can also do this |
| 21:02.28 | pedepy | if it does it then it can be done ! |
| 21:02.30 | adamt | litb: doesn't make sense for a clock to contain other widgets |
| 21:02.38 | litb | adamt: yeah, sure |
| 21:02.53 | annma | well a clock can contain a calendar |
| 21:02.54 | litb | adamt: but it makes sense for widget X to contain widget Y, if widget X want to do this |
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| 21:02.59 | pedepy | wot if it was an agenda widget ?!?! |
| 21:03.01 | adamt | litb: yeah. |
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| 21:03.05 | annma | pedepy: yes |
| 21:03.08 | annma | you get it |
| 21:03.32 | litb | nice, so we have pseudo-groups? |
| 21:03.33 | pedepy | the question if not where its relevant or not, just to konw if it can be done |
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| 21:03.42 | annma | exactly |
| 21:03.45 | pedepy | so you guys are saying, the panel IS a plasmoid ? |
| 21:03.48 | litb | so, we can move plasmoids into a "group plasmoid" ? |
| 21:03.50 | pedepy | cause it dont act quite like one |
| 21:03.53 | adamt | pedepy: yes |
| 21:04.01 | pedepy | i cant even move it damnit |
| 21:04.01 | adamt | pedepy: like the desktop |
| 21:04.42 | Skrot- | pedepy: Methinks the panel is a special case, and WIP |
| 21:04.56 | pedepy | so if one were to code a new kind of panel widget or launcher bar, etc etc, one could just run that one instead of the default one and kde wouldnt know the difference ? |
| 21:05.19 | pedepy | well it shouldnt be |
| 21:05.37 | annma | pedepy: eventually there will be other panels |
| 21:05.46 | annma | and other lauch widgets |
| 21:06.06 | pedepy | what about apple widgets .. it said we were gonna be able to run those |
| 21:06.11 | annma | KDE 4 is a big step from KDE 3 |
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| 21:06.22 | annma | so it takes time to get everything in |
| 21:06.35 | annma | it took 2 years just to port it and do the base libs |
| 21:06.43 | pedepy | which is why i hope they wont hesitate to move back the release date once more if they dont feel its quite right |
| 21:06.46 | annma | not doing anything "visible" |
| 21:07.09 | annma | no, we cannot delay a lot more |
| 21:07.16 | pedepy | why not |
| 21:07.19 | adamt | annma: how can that be? |
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| 21:07.30 | annma | because then we won't never finished |
| 21:07.37 | annma | software is never perfect |
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| 21:07.44 | fir3__ | i fear that there'll be much stuff missing from kde3 :/ |
| 21:07.54 | adamt | you won't anyways, there'll always be a 4.1, 4.2.. etc anyways :-) |
| 21:07.54 | annma | fir3__: kde3 is there |
| 21:07.54 | Skrot- | Then wait for 4.1 or 4.2 |
| 21:08.05 | walter | Hello, i tried KDE4 rc1 on OpenSuse10.3( AMD64x2, GeForce 7600 GS-dualhead) and it crashed during the startup-tune. What should i do? |
| 21:08.08 | annma | most users will run KDE 3.5 |
| 21:08.17 | adamt | fir3__: i don't think 4.0 is meant to be mainstream from day 1 anyways. |
| 21:08.18 | pedepy | yea but at least dont brand as "official" a crap ass, half baked release like microsoft often does with it's new windows releases |
| 21:08.20 | annma | walter: ask #opensuse |
| 21:08.32 | annma | pedepy: we don't brand |
| 21:08.38 | annma | we have fun with it |
| 21:08.46 | annma | if you don't then don't try it |
| 21:09.05 | pedepy | i nkow im just saying if you say "this is kde4 1.0 and thats it" and it barely runs, its not good for the name of the product |
| 21:09.14 | pedepy | whether its got commercial interests or not |
| 21:09.21 | fir3__ | walter: any error message? |
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| 21:09.25 | fred | you mean KDE4 4.0 ? |
| 21:09.25 | fred | :p |
| 21:09.28 | annma | why not pedepy |
| 21:09.29 | fred | (sorry) |
| 21:09.35 | pedepy | why not what |
| 21:09.49 | annma | dis tros will choose to release or not |
| 21:09.55 | adamt | annma: i think people wants 4.0 to be at least as good as 3.5.8 |
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| 21:10.01 | annma | so? |
| 21:10.06 | annma | they'll wait for 4.1 |
| 21:10.18 | annma | or they'll uyse 3.5.8 |
| 21:10.22 | fir3__ | imho kde4 doesn't have release quality yet :/ |
| 21:10.31 | fred | Well, it's not released. |
| 21:10.33 | adamt | annma: no, they expect 4.0 to be better than 3.5.8 - just like vista was expected to be better than xp sp2 etc. |
| 21:10.37 | fred | So, whoopdie-do. |
| 21:10.37 | annma | distros will provide both |
| 21:10.40 | walter | fir3__: not that i know howto find. The system fell back into a command-line |
| 21:11.26 | annma | it's not the same |
| 21:11.26 | annma | yo can have 3.5.8 for stability and 4 for fun |
| 21:11.26 | Skrot- | adamt: Who? Most people who will use KDE 4.0 are probably hackers or bleeding edge, not distros |
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| 21:11.26 | mivo_ | I am not sure anyone familiar with KDE expects 4(.0) to be better. |
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| 21:11.26 | adamt | annma: i'm not saying that either. i'm just trying to describe the reasoning to why people think that way |
| 21:11.28 | Skrot- | By the time distros use it it'll be stable, feature rich and kicking ;) |
| 21:11.35 | adamt | yeah |
| 21:11.38 | shnastybiznastic | I'm not sure this is the right place to ask, but I seem to have created a panel which I cannot adjust the size of |
| 21:11.40 | annma | don't worry, SP1 will fix everything 2 months after release |
| 21:11.44 | annma | then SP2 |
| 21:12.06 | dan4ster | hello |
| 21:12.13 | adamt | great, seems like suse compiled the rc1 without debugging symbols - that was clever :-) |
| 21:12.23 | shnastybiznastic | I created the panel via Add New Panel -> Panel |
| 21:12.24 | picca | i have to admit that i prefer 3.5.8 in terms of stability and looks |
| 21:12.28 | fir3__ | shouldn't a release candidate be finished(only bugs left)? |
| 21:12.34 | annma | picca: of course |
| 21:12.43 | shnastybiznastic | but I can't seem to adjust the size of that panel, and it's a little large for my taste\ |
| 21:12.48 | picca | i am sort of not looking forward to kde 4.0 release |
| 21:12.53 | dan4ster | Whenever I try to use Konqueror, I keep getting the following error: |
| 21:12.54 | dan4ster | Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: |
| 21:12.54 | dan4ster | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.55 | mivo_ | The Live CD didn't run on either of my computers, but I blame that on SuSE. ;) |
| 21:12.57 | annma | good, that's better picca |
| 21:13.05 | annma | it's how users should think |
| 21:13.05 | adamt | picca: look forward to 4.1 instead :-) |
| 21:13.07 | walter | fir3__: is this something i should try to make a bug-report? |
| 21:13.13 | shnastybiznastic | When I right click the new panel and select configure, the options for my main panel come up |
| 21:13.26 | dan4ster | I tried googling the error message, but I came up with very little answers |
| 21:13.28 | shnastybiznastic | I'll admit, I'm a little confused |
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| 21:14.02 | fir3__ | walter: do you get error messages when starting it from terminal via "startx"? |
| 21:14.02 | SSJ_GZ | annma: I submitted that Dot article. Now it's in the hands of the Dot Ninji! Thanks for the advice :) |
| 21:14.10 | picca | annma: i am giving ubuntu a shot with gnome - something i do about every six months and realise that i can't live without kde |
| 21:15.31 | walter | fir3__: have not tried. Can i do this while running KDE3.5.8, or do i have to logout? |
| 21:15.42 | annma | SSJ_GZ: cool :)) |
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| 21:16.18 | fir3__ | walter: guess you have to log out and stop kdm. or you find out how to start X twice ;) |
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| 21:17.13 | shadok | xgame can help you to fire up two X session at the same time |
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| 21:17.47 | fir3__ | will it be possible to set the oxygen style for kde3/gnome apps in kde4? |
| 21:18.13 | annma | kde3 apps, yes |
| 21:18.23 | annma | gnome I don't know, I run none |
| 21:18.53 | walter | fir3__: allright, i'll try this. What kind of things do i have to look for? I'm new at this, just trying to help with the bugs. |
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| 21:19.52 | CochiseIRL | kde4 questions, right or wrong channel? |
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| 21:20.27 | Sho_ | CochiseIRL: right |
| 21:20.27 | shnastybiznastic | part of the reason this seems strange is that I seem to remember setting panel sizes in previous KDE versions |
| 21:20.48 | Sho_ | annma: err, no, not for KDE3 apps either |
| 21:21.35 | annma | Sho_: I have oxygen style in my kde3 apps |
| 21:21.40 | CochiseIRL | Sho_, great, installed the rc1 after following instruction from the kubuntu site, im running ubuntu. should right clicking on the bottom bar allow me customize it |
| 21:22.07 | annma | in kde4 |
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| 21:22.13 | annma | CochiseIRL: panel is not configurable yet |
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| 21:22.35 | CochiseIRL | annma, thanks |
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| 21:23.13 | Sho_ | annma: You must be mistaken somehow ... the Oxygen style engine is for Qt4 and KDE4s KStyle, it won't work with Qt3 |
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| 21:23.38 | annma | maybe those are just wondeco |
| 21:23.41 | Skrot- | The window decoration works |
| 21:23.44 | Skrot- | Not the style |
| 21:23.50 | Sho_ | annma: yes, the window deco is toolkit-independent of course |
| 21:24.15 | Sho_ | (in the sense that it doesn't matter what toolkit is being used inside the window) |
| 21:24.42 | shnastybiznastic | huh |
| 21:24.58 | Sho_ | fir3__: i.e. the answer is no to both, sorry |
| 21:25.07 | shnastybiznastic | weren't panels configurable in kde2x? |
| 21:25.22 | shnastybiznastic | not complaining, just wondering.. |
| 21:25.58 | Sho_ | shnastybiznastic: And they will be in KDE4, too - they just aren't yet, because the panels and the desktop have been rewritten from scratch and achieving the feature level of the six years old Kicker codebase in a few month is a tall order |
| 21:26.08 | adamt_lap | shnastybiznastic: you got your answer earlier - the panel is a wip - work in progess |
| 21:26.12 | adamt_lap | *progress |
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| 21:26.58 | shnastybiznastic | oh yeah, I was just wondering what the reason was |
| 21:27.10 | shnastybiznastic | I didn't know there was a rewrite in progress |
| 21:27.18 | shnastybiznastic | I haven't used KDE in a few years |
| 21:27.20 | shnastybiznastic | heh |
| 21:27.26 | Sho_ | The desktop and the panels are 100% new technology :) |
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| 21:27.52 | annma | ZeBarbu: and also #kbuntu |
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| 21:27.53 | NullAcht15 | Are there any other subversion mirrors for KDE apart from svn://anonsvn.kde.org ? |
| 21:27.56 | annma | #kubuntu |
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| 21:28.09 | ZeBarbu | annma: :) |
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| 21:29.42 | Bille | NullAcht15: it's a DNS round robin of multiple machines |
| 21:29.43 | ZeBarbu | hello all |
| 21:29.47 | Bille | all are getting slammed |
| 21:29.49 | ZeBarbu | Does anybody managed to make composition work in the lastest KDE4 packages in gutsy? |
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| 21:30.37 | fir3__ | Sho_: there was a qt3-gtk package in kde3 to render gtk apps with the same style/colors, there's nothing like that for kde4? :o |
| 21:30.52 | annma | ZeBarbu: what graphics card? |
| 21:30.53 | Sho_ | fir3__: no |
| 21:31.08 | ZeBarbu | nvidia |
| 21:31.15 | Sho_ | fir3__: and note that "qt3-gtk" wasn't part of KDE either but a third party app |
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| 21:31.49 | annma | my kde3 apps titlebars are oxygen color |
| 21:31.52 | NullAcht15 | who should I tell if I have a compilation error in an up-to-date svn snapshot? |
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| 21:31.59 | annma | and have oxygen buttons |
| 21:32.26 | annma | konvi has them |
| 21:32.30 | Sho_ | annma: Yes, but that's a window decoration, not a style engine |
| 21:32.41 | ZeBarbu | I had already configured my xorg well, but "kwin(26672) KWin::Workspace::setupCompositing: No compositing" |
| 21:33.03 | annma | ah yes |
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| 21:33.16 | Rug | Howdy all |
| 21:33.19 | annma | win deco, style, it's all the same for me |
| 21:33.30 | ZeBarbu | but I can configure compositing (configure window behavior/...), and set it to xrandr for exemple |
| 21:34.22 | fir3__ | Sho_: someone should really create some app to convert gtk/wxwidgets/qt4/qt3/etc styles :/ |
| 21:34.37 | Sho_ | fir3__: It's not as easy as it may sound I'm fraid :( |
| 21:34.42 | Sho_ | *afraid |
| 21:34.50 | adamt | fir3__: you could start looking into it :-) |
| 21:35.26 | annma | fir3__: it'll come I am sure |
| 21:35.38 | annma | but first we need to finish Oxygen ;) |
| 21:35.55 | fir3__ | yep :) |
| 21:36.02 | ZeBarbu | annma: any idea for me? |
| 21:36.07 | NullAcht15 | I'm trying to compile kdebase from trunk, and I get the error message "/home/softwaremaster/kde/build/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/battery/ui_batteryConfig.h:109: error: 'class QWidget' has no member named 'setAccessibleName'" |
| 21:36.30 | annma | ZeBarbu: I have nvidia and it works ok |
| 21:36.37 | ZeBarbu | on kubuntu? |
| 21:36.46 | annma | ZeBarbu: I compile KDE4 |
| 21:36.48 | fir3__ | Sho_: i saw something on kde-look.org iirc |
| 21:36.50 | ZeBarbu | from svn or from binaries |
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| 21:36.54 | annma | svn |
| 21:37.00 | ZeBarbu | ok, that may be the problem for me :) |
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| 21:37.27 | ZeBarbu | just to prepar myself for the wait, how long does it take to compil the current svn ? |
| 21:37.35 | fir3__ | Sho_: but a port wouldn't be a good idea so someone would have to do that for every style |
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| 21:39.23 | Sho_ | fir3__: Well, I think it's not a good idea in any case ... have you ever wished your KDE 2 apps would use your KDE 3 style? Exactly ;) KDE 3 will go away |
| 21:39.34 | NullAcht15 | ZeBarbu: Hours, but of course it depends on your system's speed |
| 21:40.14 | ZeBarbu | NullAcht15: 1 laptop core2duo 1.8GHz + 1 amd64 2.4GHz , with icecream |
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| 21:41.02 | annma | ZeBarbu: I was done in 5 hours in my build from scratch today |
| 21:41.10 | NullAcht15 | icecream? Are you telling me you're eating ice cream at the same time or is icecream some new tech gimmick I haven't heard of? |
| 21:41.14 | annma | qt kdelibs kdebase extragear/plasma |
| 21:41.28 | adamt_lap | NullAcht15: distributed compilation of software |
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| 21:41.29 | annma | without icecream, just a core laptop 1.6 |
| 21:41.36 | fir3__ | Sho_: if i still need some kde2 apps i would ;) and i guess it'll take "some" time until these tons of kde3 apps will be ported |
| 21:41.59 | ZeBarbu | but with low dsl connection (512kb), so could you please tell me the size of sources for a svn co |
| 21:42.02 | ZeBarbu | ? |
| 21:42.06 | Sho_ | fir3__: Sure will, but it's still a temporary problem and IMO the energy spent in writing a style adaptor is better spent porting apps |
| 21:43.00 | NullAcht15 | ZeBarbu: The svn servers are being hammered like crazy today, so they're really slow |
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| 21:44.14 | david__ | hello ppl i unmergged my portato on sabayon how can i get m back !? |
| 21:44.28 | NullAcht15 | Anyway, can anyone help me with that compile error? Or should I ask in #kde-devel? |
| 21:44.29 | annma | #sabayon |
| 21:44.36 | annma | NullAcht15: pastebin |
| 21:44.51 | annma | NullAcht15: paste last compiling line before errror |
| 21:44.58 | NullAcht15 | annma: ok |
| 21:45.00 | ZeBarbu | ok, i'll give it a try |
| 21:46.03 | NullAcht15 | annma: http://rafb.net/p/vjpE2C90.html |
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| 21:47.39 | annma | NullAcht15: gentoo, right? |
| 21:47.43 | NullAcht15 | yes |
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| 21:47.59 | annma | somehow you have to set the accessibility flag to qt NullAcht15 |
| 21:48.15 | annma | so you have to rebuild qt with accessibility |
| 21:48.29 | annma | not sure why this is not default |
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| 21:48.42 | NullAcht15 | annma: okay, so recompile qt with accessability use flag? |
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| 21:49.26 | annma | NullAcht15: yes |
| 21:49.38 | annma | not sure how that happened, lots of gentoo users got it |
| 21:50.08 | NullAcht15 | annma: If it works, I'll edit it in the install guide in the wiki |
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| 21:50.29 | annma | NullAcht15: ok |
| 21:50.51 | fir3__ | any idea how i can enable font antialiasing in kde4 rc1? |
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| 22:05.37 | walter | Hello, just reproduced the X-server crash i have with KDE4-RC1 and not with beta4 on OpenSuse. Seems to have something to do with XGL. |
| 22:05.48 | walter | should i file a bug report for KDE4? |
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| 22:17.00 | konadr | it's a little strange that there is no facility to change the taskbar or the desktop by right clicking on 4RC1 |
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| 22:17.17 | adamt_lap | konadr: work in progress |
| 22:18.20 | konadr | ah right ok, good good. Will it be like the alpha screenshot of wikipedia also with icons on the desktop and the taskbar, much like kde3x, it gets a bit frustration to keep having to go to the strange kmenu |
| 22:18.58 | konadr | walter, kbugbuster? |
| 22:19.36 | adamt | which irc-client is standard in kde4? |
| 22:19.49 | walter | konadr: what is that? |
| 22:21.03 | konadr | can you search for the bug there walter or is that of no use to you? |
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| 22:23.02 | walter | konadr: i'm just an ordinary kde-fan trying KDE4 on and off. Beta4 worked for me, but RC1 crashes the X-server. I found something in a kdm-logfile and thougth it might be interesting for the devolpers. |
| 22:24.16 | konadr | ah right i just upgraded from 4b4 to 4rc1 on opensuse 10.3 tonight walter, seems to be a lot more stable :) |
| 22:25.12 | walter | konadr: so it's hard to say whether it's a kde4 problem or a opensuse problem? |
| 22:26.35 | konadr | hmm i could never get this working properly on opensuse 10+ there was always some problem. But it could well be an issue with KDE4 not sure |
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| 22:32.31 | walter | well, i'll try to put some info in bugs.kde.org. Maybe it's helpful. |
| 22:33.37 | RichiH | i know you can define custom folders to store sent messages in (per sending profile) and that you can display unread messages in parentheses behind the folder name instead on in a column, yet, i am unable to find either option |
| 22:33.43 | RichiH | any pointers? |
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| 22:34.35 | ZeBarbu | RichiH: you mean in kontact/kmail? |
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| 22:35.59 | RichiH | ZeBarbu: yes, sorry |
| 22:37.26 | ZeBarbu | RichiH: you can put any message you want where you want by filters. did you tried? |
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| 22:44.29 | RichiH | ZeBarbu: while it is true that i can probably filter, i know there is a decidated feature |
| 22:45.22 | ZeBarbu | RichiH: well, I know that INCOMING messages can be configured by account, but I don't know four outcoming ones |
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| 23:12.36 | Trollinator | Hi |
| 23:13.14 | Trollinator | I'm running the debian kde4 live cd |
| 23:13.40 | Trollinator | and i've installed the latest nvidia driver and i've enabled compositing in Xorg.conf |
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| 23:14.12 | Trollinator | yet, kwin's settings tell me that there's no compositing on my system |
| 23:14.26 | Trollinator | (i've restarted X.org) |
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| 23:14.42 | Trollinator | besides that... kde4 rocks. |
| 23:14.45 | Trollinator | it's so FAST |
| 23:15.00 | ZeBarbu | Trollinator: I've the same problem on kubuntu (gutsy) |
| 23:15.50 | apokryphos | Trollinator: that issue's been fixed now afaik |
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| 23:15.57 | Trollinator | cool. |
| 23:16.02 | apokryphos | those packages must not have them yet |
| 23:16.18 | Trollinator | yes, the debian kde4 live cd is based on beta 4 |
| 23:16.25 | ZeBarbu | that's why i'm currently building from svn :) |
| 23:17.04 | apokryphos | 87 seeders and 164 peers on the kde four live torrent, wow |
| 23:17.20 | Trollinator | hum, konqueror seems to be a bit buggy in beta 4 |
| 23:17.37 | Trollinator | it crashes a lot :) |
| 23:17.54 | luyt | I think KDE4 tries too hard to look like OSX |
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| 23:18.13 | Trollinator | luyt: it looks completely different. |
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| 23:18.25 | luyt | The Settings panel, the plasmoids... |
| 23:18.36 | adamt | luyt: everyone got plasmids |
| 23:18.36 | Trollinator | the colors are completely different. |
| 23:18.49 | Trollinator | Oxygen also is. |
| 23:18.53 | luyt | I never use the Dashboard on my macs anyway ;-) |
| 23:18.57 | Mrrrrz0r | The settings panel is actually a style from Windows Neptune builds... |
| 23:19.01 | ZeBarbu | I fell a bit like luyt: all is white, as in mac :) |
| 23:19.04 | Mrrrrz0r | that layout anyway |
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| 23:19.15 | Jrabbit | Question: Can I find a binary .deb of KDE4 RC1 for ubuntu? |
| 23:19.18 | maki_ | KDE is meant to be configurable from the beggining |
| 23:19.23 | maki_ | mac isnt |
| 23:19.29 | ZeBarbu | Jrabbit: yes |
| 23:19.33 | luyt | I follow it with interest and will config it to my needs |
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| 23:19.42 | ZeBarbu | Jrabbit: google it you'll find it at first response |
| 23:19.48 | Jrabbit | ZeBarbu, is it already in the repos? |
| 23:19.56 | Sput | ZeBarbu: you do know that there are other color schemes? :) |
| 23:20.09 | luyt | And this is how my ideal desktop looks like: http://www.michielovertoom.com/files/kdemenu.jpg |
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| 23:20.29 | ZeBarbu | Jrabbit: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc1.php |
| 23:20.38 | Jrabbit | ZeBarbu, beat you there |
| 23:20.42 | Jrabbit | Thanks. |
| 23:20.45 | Roey | luyt: reminds me of early simcity |
| 23:20.47 | Roey | heh |
| 23:20.52 | apokryphos | luyt: get out of the 80s already :) |
| 23:20.53 | adamt | luyt: then don't use kde4? quite simple :-) |
| 23:20.53 | maki_ | luyt KDE4 could look like that |
| 23:20.57 | Sput | that looks oooooooold |
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| 23:21.06 | luyt | maki: That's a reassuring thought |
| 23:21.32 | ZeBarbu | Jrabbit: but it fails for me (composition doesn't work for me, and it seems i'm not the only one) |
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| 23:21.43 | Jrabbit | Hmm |
| 23:21.48 | Jrabbit | an ETA on RC2? |
| 23:22.01 | Jrabbit | I really don't want to F*** up my install |
| 23:22.01 | adamt | Jrabbit: 5th of december i think |
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| 23:22.08 | Trollinator | Jrabbit: RC1 was only just released... |
| 23:22.09 | ZeBarbu | Jrabbit: but all other things go just fine |
| 23:22.14 | luyt | I find it important how the fonts look, they shouldn't tire my eyes |
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| 23:22.24 | Jrabbit | I'd love to help just don't want to mess it up (Irreversably) |
| 23:22.25 | luyt | Translucent windows are harsh on the eyes -- unreadable |
| 23:22.26 | maki_ | plastik with dark blue windeco and creme win background is the best |
| 23:22.38 | luyt | Show screenshot pls? |
| 23:23.05 | luyt | One advantage of composition (for me) might be very faint shadows around windows |
| 23:23.17 | luyt | To make the active window stand out just a little bit |
| 23:23.32 | ZeBarbu | luyt: http://vizzzion.org/?blogentry=742 |
| 23:23.44 | Trollinator | hah! kde4 rocks |
| 23:23.51 | Trollinator | i can click links in a terminal |
| 23:23.57 | ZeBarbu | for screenshots |
| 23:24.03 | Jrabbit | ZeBarbu, Can I run 4 and switch back to 3.5 from sessions? |
| 23:24.09 | ZeBarbu | Trollinator: and add bookmarks in konqueror |
| 23:24.10 | adamt | Jrabbit: yes |
| 23:24.14 | Jrabbit | Oh. |
| 23:24.19 | Jrabbit | Then game on D: |
| 23:24.31 | Trollinator | ZeBarbu: i could do that with kde3 too. |
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| 23:24.55 | ZeBarbu | Jrabbit: yes :) |
| 23:24.55 | ZeBarbu | and even start kde4 in Xephyr, inside your kde3 session |
| 23:25.06 | Jrabbit | DX |
| 23:25.28 | maki_ | http://www.srkaj.com/photo/3/11545kde.jpg this is the best kde look i ever had |
| 23:25.35 | Jrabbit | wait |
| 23:25.37 | Jrabbit | Ugh. |
| 23:25.45 | Jrabbit | Why is KDE stealing Compiz features? |
| 23:26.10 | adamt | which irc-clients have been porter to kde4? |
| 23:26.12 | Jrabbit | It better do them better then compiz-fusion |
| 23:26.16 | ZeBarbu | Trollinator: ho :) haha, I just never used (and even see it was already done in 3.x), I was happy to find it in kde4 |
| 23:26.19 | luyt | KOHKBEPOP ;-) lol |
| 23:26.36 | Trollinator | Jrabbit: how would you "steal" features from another program. |
| 23:26.36 | robotangel | well, i have a whole screenshot-dir with quite a lot of screenshots |
| 23:26.38 | Trollinator | that's bullshit |
| 23:26.47 | Jrabbit | I run KDE with compiz |
| 23:26.51 | robotangel | with nearly every DE and every WM :) |
| 23:26.57 | Jrabbit | When they both run the same feature set its rather annoying |
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| 23:27.26 | adamt | Jrabbit: kwin implements some of the same ideas in a less "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME"-sort of way. |
| 23:27.43 | maki_ | luyt whats so funny :D |
| 23:27.55 | Jrabbit | hmm |
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| 23:28.02 | Trollinator | all this talk about "stolen" features is so stupid. If someone implements a feature that makes sense, it would be very stupid not to implement it in your program, too. |
| 23:28.04 | maki_ | Kwin tends to be more usable |
| 23:28.34 | ZeBarbu | and kde4 is a new start |
| 23:28.41 | Trollinator | is Linux not supposed to support clustering, because VMS had it before? |
| 23:28.49 | Trollinator | that's stupid. |
| 23:29.00 | Jrabbit | Compiz is to add these features |
| 23:29.03 | Sput | KDE always tried to merge the best of available worlds, and rightly so |
| 23:29.10 | ZeBarbu | compiz is 'one more layer on top of many others'. kde4 gather it all and make it more useable |
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| 23:29.15 | Jrabbit | I'm not sure I liek them being allready there |
| 23:29.29 | Sput | Jrabbit: compiz is a window manager. kwin is a window manager. can't blame any of them to try to have the bestest and mostest features. |
| 23:29.34 | robotangel | Well, I have 2344532 patents on it and I will sue you if you implement this feature!! (that's how it goes...) |
| 23:29.38 | luyt | I do like the kioslaves in konqueror |
| 23:29.41 | maki_ | is there a kwin plugin for tilling windows ? |
| 23:30.11 | Trollinator | i'm so happy that i live in a coutry without software patents... |
| 23:30.12 | Jrabbit | Also, Kubuntu is really badly tested if you've never run it |
| 23:30.12 | Jrabbit | :( |
| 23:30.22 | Trollinator | ubuntu sucks. |
| 23:30.24 | Sput | kwin also does stuff compiz still can't do, such as remembering window positions |
| 23:30.41 | Jrabbit | They didn't used to but this release wasn't put though the ringer at all |
| 23:30.44 | maki_ | Trollinator: only the US have software patents |
| 23:30.45 | Trollinator | just a bloody branded debian. |
| 23:30.54 | Jrabbit | Also |
| 23:30.56 | Sput | or supporting xsmp in general |
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| 23:31.03 | Jrabbit | None of the KDe apps could access the network |
| 23:31.04 | Trollinator | maki_: so.... what? |
| 23:31.40 | Jrabbit | I have to readjust the sound 'mixer' every session |
| 23:32.00 | maki_ | Trollinator: well if to litle country's have softeware patents, wich is good |
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| 23:32.39 | adamt_lap | maki_: and you are saying what? |
| 23:33.51 | maki_ | adamt_lap nothing :) |
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| 23:34.47 | maki_ | just if you are happy with living in country without software patents, thats 95 percent od the world :) |
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